Alright, hello everyone.
Podcast number 20.
Sandow Podcast, which is a podcast all about the sandbox DAO.
Today we're going to be doing a reaction to the Ask Me Anything done with the sandbox
marketing team for SIP number 11.
SIP number 11 is the ambassador program and they're looking to use 400,000 sand to increase
compensation for ambassadors, increase the ambassador count and introduce new ambassador
tracks to broaden the scope.
If you're interested in seeing in depth about that, go to Sandow Podcast number 18, which
is where I did an in depth review of SIP 11 and went through the whole proposal.
This one isn't going to be an in depth review of it.
It'll be very interesting Ask Me Anything done just a couple days ago where Twitter,
the sandbox team came together and answered a lot of questions that were being had on
the DAO forums.
If you haven't been following that along, you can see it's gotten very colorful.
So there's been a wide, wide disagreement even from current ambassadors.
So there was a lot of discussion on this one and it was so interesting around it that got
to the point where I wanted to do an Ask Me Anything on this one.
So what's the scope of the talk?
Today is another reaction piece.
It's also an opinion piece.
So I'm doing both.
I'll be offering my own opinion just like I did Podcast 19 with Mia Bao and Seb.
Disclaimer, I do not represent the sandbox game or the sandbox foundation, which is the
DAO.
I am not your financial or legal advisor and nothing I say is to be taken as financial
or legal advice.
So who am I?
I'm Tim Lancer.
I'm the podcast host.
I'm also the president of MetaWorlds.
We have published two experiences at this point.
One was Floor Droppers for Builders Challenge 1 and then one was Lava Defense, which was
a game maker on GMF 2023.
And we are a team of business people, gamers, and we've moved from just publishing experiences
now to the DAO.
Because a lot of our specialties coincide very nicely with the DAO, which is business,
people, community, and gaming.
And I'm Lancer.
I've been in the Sand Fam since December 2021, so about midway through season one, and I'm
a landowner.
I run around with my WoW avatar all the time and it looks like a Where's Waldo.
And I'm yeah, keep going.
Scoreboard.
Yesterday this scoreboard, two SIPs did not pass Quorum.
That was SIP 9 and 10, the NFT collection and the blockchain events.
So that brings this SIP count to three not approved.
And there's two open for voting, which right now open for voting.
You can go vote.
Don't use the proposal website because it doesn't work.
It's just not showing things.
Instead use Snapshot.
You can I'll post both links in the chat.
And use those.
That will get you directly to snapshot link for both.
They close in 48 hours.
So need as much help as possible.
SIP 10 and SIP 11.
SIP 10 is the Ambassador Program.
SIP 11 is excuse me, SIP 10 is the Sandbox Academy.
And SIP 11 is the Ambassador Program.
We're talking about right now.
Right now though, it looks like a SIP 10.
Excuse me, SIP, dang it, 11 and 12.
My fault.
SIP 12 and SIP 11.
There we go.
So, if you look at the current, the current stuff on this, SIP 11 has 91% yes, 6% no,
quorum is only 19 million out of 30.
So it's 62% quorum not there yet.
And it's getting down to the wire.
SIP 12 is even less, it has a 47% quorum, a clocking in about 54% yes.
I did, if you're interested in the details of SIP 12, did a podcast interview with Mark
Baggo back in.
Podcast number 12.
Wow, that was eight episodes ago.
We've been turning and burning pretty hard.
So that's where we are.
And then there's one SIP that is the NFT Evolution SIP for NFT drops within the sandbox to your
wallet.
And that's by Crypto Diplo, which we will be having a podcast with later on.
So please go vote.
Please go vote.
At least it'll make quorum.
The most important thing.
All right, checkbook.
We're still at 13% because the last few SIPs did not make quorum.
So 1.9 million sand spent out of 15.5 or 13% of the budget.
Dowbase.ai updates.
We're sitting at 1800 voters, 211,000 token holders, and sandbox is trading at 23 cents.
One token is trading at 23 cents.
Let's get into it.
So we're going to transition now over to the actual AMA.
So what's showing on screen now is what's showing on screen now is the tweet that went
out for the AMA.
And it went out on August 28, which means that on a Wednesday, they said that on a Friday,
two days later, they would do an Ask Me Anything for SIP 11.
And the interesting thing is that I had been asking to podcast with the, with the, with
the makers, the authors of the SIP for pretty much almost as soon as they, as soon as they
had requested and put it on the, on the ambassador forums.
So they posted on, on August 7th is when Geraldine posted all of the SIP details.
And on August 8th, so a day later, I read the SIP and then I asked them some questions.
And then I say, hey, would you be willing to go on the podcast?
So it was 25 days ago.
And they had, as I went through the podcast with SIP 11, the responses were a little bit
slow to come in, but they didn't really acknowledge my request to sit down and podcast.
And so last Wednesday, they said they wanted to do an AMA on Twitter.
So they did the AMA on Twitter.
And I have mixed feelings about it.
I haven't voted yet.
And I was going to vote before the 24 hours are up, but I've been on the fence.
There's been so much disagreement about this, even from current ambassadors, it's given
me pause to go all in on the yes.
And so I've had to really weigh values and, and different perspectives one way or the
other on this because of how much disagreement there is on the yeses and the nos.
But if you look at the SIP itself and snapshot, you'll see that it has a huge number of yeses,
17 million.
But if you look down in the cast your vote, the actual vote explanations here, a lot of
the yeses.
Alright, so let's look at a few of them.
So here's, here's one of the abstains, too much conflict between existing ambassadors
and plans to pay new ambassadors.
That is where I sit right now.
There's too much conflict between the existing ambassadors and the plans presented by the
sandbox team.
It seems like there's a big disconnect.
Big, big disconnect.
So Lotus said yes, anything to breathe life into this corpse.
Why did I fall for an Animoca product again?
I don't know what they mean by that.
Animoca has invested in over 450 companies at this point and sandbox is by no means a
failure.
So not sure.
But a lot of yeses, a lot of yeses.
Where did I read all the yeses?
There were a bunch of explanations that were really interesting.
Here's a yes.
Good idea.
Alright, so here, that was one yes.
Here's another yes.
Yes, but legacy ambassadors need to be grandfathered in and compensated.
So a lot of people are voting yes, it seemed like, because they believe that the ambassadors
are crucial to support the advancement of the sandbox, like in this case.
But there doesn't really seem to be quite an awareness that there is such opposition
to it.
It seems like a lot of voting is going on.
A lot of yes voting is happening.
Because when you read it, you're like, absolutely, I should support the ambassadors.
They're a crucial part.
And so that's a lot of the yeses.
I mean, you'll see Candley Christen vote no, as she has pledged to do until a community
member.
This one was voted no.
Why isn't the sandbox funding this?
That was a good question.
Not fully answered by the AMA, but we'll get into that.
We need more people talking about sandbox around the world.
Yeses.
So it seemed like people didn't realize, haven't realized that there is a lot of widespread
disagreement, and they just take the SIP at face value to say it is a sandbox ambassador
program.
Ambassador is good.
Yes, therefore I should I should vote yes.
So that's an interesting disconnect between the SanFam community talking about the SIP
and then the SanFam community voting on the SIP.
Very very interesting development going on there.
Okay.
So then let's get into the actual AMA.
So the AMA happened, it was about an hour long, and some people showed up that I weren't
expecting.
I didn't know who was going to host it and turned out to be Panda.
Panda ended up hosting this, which wasn't a bad choice at all.
However, Panda has not been involved in the sandbox DAO pretty much at all.
So her introduction as a moderator was already a interesting choice, unexpected.
The AMA before it even started, before it even started, it seemed like damage control,
because most of the SIP authors have accepted my podcast interview request, and we went
over it in detail and depth.
But this time they didn't.
And it seemed like the reason they didn't was because of just how much disagreement
there was.
And in the sandbox forums, or the DAO forums, excuse me, look at how many responses there
were 61 replies in this one, which is a lot more than usual.
And so much of it seemed to be negative or critical.
Even my questions, I had to ask questions that were trying to understand a little bit
better, but they they weren't able to answer everything I think, up until today.
So yeah, it's kind of to the it starts at six minutes.
And so the people who attended was the sandbox DAO administrator, Cyril, the co founder,
Seb, the chief marketing officer, Amit Kumar, and then some people that he works with in
the marketing team, Kelsey, who was revealed to be all my friends.
All right, let's get into it.
And then we'll we'll stop and respond.
As well, we will be co host today and we'll also bring marketing team and of course, give
a chance to our community to exchange on a very important topic, one that I think has
a lot of potential to grow the sandbox and bring a lot of new users.
And we've seen a lot of engagement and conversation around which is this SIP 11 to fund an ambassador
program.
So take the time to answer your question and see where which direction we want to give
to the program, how we can help making it even better and how to get started and also
progress and improve it as we progress.
So thank you everyone for joining.
Do we have our host for today?
Yeah, I have finally been able to join Seb.
Well, an amazing introduction.
You have saved me needing to introduce you guys.
So thank you so much.
I'll still do another quick intro for everyone.
So welcome on in.
I am your host today, Panda Pops, for those that don't know me.
And we'll be discussing SIP 11 for the ambassadors program.
We have of course, the amazing Sebastian Bourget, the CEO and co founder to the sandbox game.
A big welcome to Cyril Forte, the head of the sandbox DAO.
And we also have Amit, our chief marketing officer here from the sandbox.
So Amit is someone who we haven't interacted with.
And wasn't as far as I was aware, didn't introduce himself during the sandbox DAO forum public
comment period.
So we weren't really familiar with Amit.
And so to hear Amit speak a lot was it I think it fed into the narrative, the existing suspicion
and mistrust that the narrative was the sandbox team just pushes this onto the DAO and says
go vote for it.
And then when the sandbox DAO, when the DAO community pushed back, they ran this and wanted
to explain a little bit more what they were doing.
Whereas before I don't think they expected this level of criticism from from San Fam.
So Seb intros, hands, host, and C to Panda Pops.
So unless any of you guys wanted to say a quick hello to the community listening right
now, we can jump in straight away with the first question.
Of course, a quick hello to everyone.
The IP to see like the amount of conversation and engagement that the SIP generates.
For us, we like to see everything and always from a positive angle.
Like the DAO is like the...
I'm not sure if he mentioned that because of how much negativity there was.
But yeah, there was a lot of criticism.
So I think this was an attempt to turn things into a positive way, which I fully...
Hey, Sergi, I fully support that.
And I think that's a smart way to go.
It's a way for the sandbox community to express their opinion, to decide how the sandbox should
evolve.
So it's quite natural and even better, it's expected that those conversations happen.
So you can vote in an informed way and you can influence the sandbox to evolve in a way
that you think will benefit the best to its growth, its future development, its roadmap,
its ecosystem, and driving the value of the different assets that we own, the sand, the
land, and so on.
So I wanted to first thank everyone for being here, giving us their time and like that huge
interest on the SIP 11.
Maybe before we jump, maybe you want a quick highlight.
What's SIP 11?
What's the...
It shows Amit speaking but really it's Seb speaking.
What it proposed to change versus what we have already in place so far, what we've done
in a very centralized manner until now and how we plan to decentralize it.
Yes, so that pretty much is the start for our very first question, which is, so what
is the Ambassador Program?
This is what we asked...
Amit, if you're talking, I don't think people can hear you right now.
Yep, we don't hear you, Amit.
All right, so I'll step in, I guess, like in the meantime while Amit is working on this
audio connection issue and we'll reconnect.
So the SIP 11 is talking about like an Ambassador Program.
We've had already in place the first version, the first iteration of an Ambassador Program
as we've grown Sandbox over the year.
As you know, Sandbox started around 2018 as a blockchain platform.
It has evolved a lot over time and originally those ambassadors had certain mission that
also matched with what we were looking for, what we were expecting back then for the first
step of Sandbox when the community was much smaller and also based on how people were
engaging the most, which is certain channels of communication such as Discord or Telegram,
for example.
So ambassadors indeed by then turned out to creating conversation on those channels, engaging
the user whenever they were not necessarily using the product or in the game itself, answering
the question, producing tutorial, producing material that helps also educate that community,
promote the product, promote the different assets that are part of the Sandbox ecosystem
like the LAN, like VoxEdit, like GameMaker, like the SandToken as well as the avatars.
It really took different shapes and I think it's been working well.
I want to also recognize the importance of the work of the existing ambassadors that
we've had in the community.
Everyone played an important role and it's always important to recognize that.
And we thought it's a time as Sandbox evolved and decentralized and needs to keep growing
and evolving like a child mature and turns into a teenager and an adult to look at how
we drive even more decentralization in ambassadors.
How we, as we travel around the world, as we meet so many communities in India, in Turkey,
right now I'm in Korea, but I just came back from Japan or in Hong Kong.
That picture of his with the samurai sword on the back of his jacket is awesome.
And allow people who are passionate about Sandbox to become ambassadors and give them
a chance to attract even more users from their region of the world with a different approach.
Because there's not a single recipe or model of how to attract people to Sandbox.
Some people can be interested by art, some by fashion, some by gaming, some by music.
It's also very multicultural.
And that needs to be structured in a way that we enable the possibility to drive the development
and the growth of the platform.
Still, I think a way to calculate a form of performance, not just based on like soft facts,
not just based on like, yes, everyone is contributing and we are all growing, but having to be able
to measure which ambassador maybe drives more users of a certain type of audience than another,
compare their impact and create.
And it is an attempt that we proposed.
I don't mean it's perfect, but we worked several weeks to try to create a quantifiable way
to measure the actions of those ambassadors.
And of course, it's not just counting the number of messages you are posting on Discord.
We've been creating something pretty structured that tried to cover largely the scope of action
that we've seen in the past.
And it's not set entirely in stone.
It will be flexible and evolve as well.
And we could also count other metrics and KPI that reflects how good ambassadors are
in their mission and their work.
Okay, so that was Seth explaining the history of the Ambassador Program, how it started
many years ago and its first iteration was to create conversation and engage the SanFam
and the communication channels and engage them in the product itself or the game and
reducing the need for a tutorial.
All right, so that makes sense.
The Ambassador Program has been around for a long time.
The ambassadors helped me onboard into the sandbox and Discord and in-game.
In many cases, they would be in-game answering questions during the seasons.
Like, what is this?
What do you do?
How do you do it?
They would also host in-game tournaments where you could parkour across the platforms that
usually were raised levitating above the ground floor.
And if you got there first, you won a prize, that sort of thing.
So my introduction to the Ambassador Program was through the ambassadors like Candley Christen
and Uncle Grumpy and many others.
So they helped bring my attention and passion into the sandbox through them.
And they helped facilitate that and it was great.
And I still speak to Chris and Uncle Grumpy even now in Discord.
And so they are an essential part of sandbox.
This SIP is to increase their compensation.
So you would think no brainer.
But the devil's in the details on this one.
And the reason why it's created so much debate, disagreement, is because some of those details
the current ambassadors disagree with and don't believe should be implemented.
Roxy Miguel in chat asked, do you think this proposal was ready to be a SIP?
I think it was.
But I don't think that the All My Friends team was prepared to react to and answer the
questions of the community and the disagreements that came about.
They didn't respond fast enough.
And so all this momentum started building outside of their control.
I mean, these discussions were being had on Twitter and being had on the DAL discussion
channel within Sandbox Discord.
These were open conversations.
And if you had seen them, you would have known.
You would have known that this was coming.
So I don't know if they missed it or if they decided that they wanted to see it play out
and let the community hash it out before they stepped in with an AMA like this.
But I think it was ready.
I just don't think I think it was ready to be submitted.
I don't think it was ready to be discussed.
And I think if All My Friends, if more had helped out Kelsey, then this might have been
a little bit less of an issue than it was.
But they went entire weeks without responding back to questions.
And so all of this built during the two-week public comment period where there was no answers
except for the DAL members to just go back and forth off each other.
And that was not good because a number of those DAL members, some of them were ambassadors.
So it seemed like the sandbox really, really...
It painted the sandbox as being completely out of touch with their ambassadors.
And I think this AMA was an attempt to bring it back.
But as you'll see, and just the first question here, Seb is really just talking about the
history of the Ambassador Program.
And at the very end, he mentioned how this was an attempt, this SIP is an attempt to
create a quantifiable way to measure the actions of the ambassadors and to create a structured
approach, which is a great thing to do.
No problem with that at all.
But there's so much disagreement being had in the forums, so much unacknowledged questions.
And so this SIP, I think, is to bring some answers to that.
And we'll keep on going.
Rocky said also in the chat that he believed that more consideration should have been given
to the process when it was still a proposal instead of fulfilling an agenda and turning
them into SIPs.
That was one of the things that came across.
I don't think the sandbox team meant to do it like this.
But the kind of one way communication happening right now where the only approved speakers
are Seb, Amit, Panda, and Cyril.
They pre approved speakers made it seem like they're just projecting a narrative projecting
an agenda like here, this is what our answer is.
Rather than engaging in a back and forth discussion, which is really needed in either my Sandow
podcast format, where I take questions from the community and we integrate the chat into
our discussions in real time, or on the forums where a lot of questions and you just need
to confront it head on and address the considerations because these people, you can't just turn
away from them.
They're going to vote for you or against you.
And the only thing that saved them in this right now is that so many voters saw Ambassador
program didn't realize in their voting yes, that so much so many ambassadors were opposed
to this.
Some of them noted it.
And then they voted no.
And you saw that in the description, like, there shouldn't be so much disagreement from
the current ambassadors and voting no because of it.
That happened.
So that's the only thing that saved them.
Even being the sandbox team on this one is if it makes quorum, it's likely to get yes
voted because of how many people voted yes when they saw Ambassador program and didn't
realize that it's green behind it.
And Rocky Miguel said I say this taking into account that I was not present in the Dow
ecosystem until sips 1112 or put to a vote.
That's okay.
Miguel, I think you I think you understood it from the beginning.
Why there was disagreement going on.
And even the question that you just asked in the in the sip forum there toward the end.
And it kind of removed you said it removed your doubt there.
Where Panda had answered you, you asked what does asset mean and Panda said it's generally
a marketing term.
And Panda has been around for a long time in the sandbox community.
But she's been streaming from a box at a game maker side.
She's been streaming from jumping into your in game experiences.
She has not been very involved in the Dow.
So what I saw what the message I took from her being handed the co host was they wanted
a safe way to respond to the widespread disagreement and that they declined to to go into my sand
Dow podcast here as an interview because they were unsure of they want to go well they weren't
sure of the uncertainty.
They maybe maybe they thought I would ask too hard of a question or whatever the case
may be.
But they want a little bit more of a they wanted that they wanted to be sure that that
would go well.
And so an AMA with only approved speakers would give them that that security and that
control they were after.
Miguel says in chat how prepared a proposal should be in your opinion just wondering if
I ever plan to make a proposal and take it to the set.
Well tech check out sand out podcast two and three I think it was where I delve into the
sit process with Pepe from Magic palette whose whose proposal did end up passing the first
community set proposed that passed and then also Keral who did creators first sip ended
withdrawing it when the council issued a negative recommendation on his proposal so it didn't
go to vote or public comment.
And I went I delved into the depths of the sandbox now sip template that is provided
and and I can link that to you Miguel but and I we go into depth into how how prepared
things should be but you generally want to hit on explaining the rationale behind why
you think this sip is needed explain the rationale behind how you think the Dow is going to benefit
from it explain and list out your your expenses.
So a lot of these sips only lists like big dollar figures like we want 400,000 want 200,000
50,000 whatever my sip is the sand out podcast I have four of them but one of them the closest
one to vote is that and the most recent comments from the sandbox dial team the past week or
two is they want to see itemized lists like how much am I paying the video editor how
much am I paying the podcast engineer how much am I paying the scheduler they want that
to go down to that degree so that's one of the reason reasons why hasn't gone to vote
yet because they've been asking me to continue provide more in depth costs.
So I'm waiting for them to respond to that in order to push it to public comment and
then to the doubt for vote so it needs to be detailed enough to where people can read
it know why you're asking them to vote yes and then high and high level enough to where
well you can go as depth in depth as you want keeping to the 10,000 character limit but
you want you want there to be explanation to answer the question is why should they
vote yes.
Yeah yeah well they the rocky says in the chat how the Dow will benefit with a question
mark our brain still thinking about how the sandbox will benefit that is something that
the AMA here tries to answer they one of the ways they trying to answer the question is
why are they asking the Dow for the money they answer that in the forums but it was
it was kind of a it was just a we think our values are aligned sort of thing they don't
really go into too much depth so there's still that kind of hanging question in the forums
that Kelsey from all my friends I believe it was her but but Kelsey all my friends answers
later on in the forums about 20 hours ago.
Alright so let's keep going yeah those are all absolutely amazing points I'm just gonna
double check if a minute did you do you happen to speak now.
No we cannot hear a minute I am ever so sorry.
Is that better.
Yes, yes I can hear you.
Amazing.
I hope you heard us.
So sorry everyone for that.
I wanted to quickly just echo first what Seb said at the beginning which is the core purpose
of the premise behind the Ambassador program and expanding it was that we felt there was
a growing number of just hyper engaged community members that we wanted to give the ability
to participate to and just the feedback on the forum on socials whether it's good or
bad I think goes to show like we're very grateful and we don't take for granted how engaged
the community has been with this SIP and that is really the purpose and so I think that's
important to note.
I'll break down like very simply like what the Ambassador program is into kind of like
two core premises.
We recognize that we have a growing community we want to engage them we want to benefit
from their passion and expertise and the program is really there to organize our most passionate
community members and number one enable them to support and contribute to the sandbox and
number two reward them for that time investment and so we're going to get more into the details.
So that's a great thing.
That's a great thing to better reward the ambassadors who are so important to onboarding
new members.
That's a great thing.
So you have to be asking yourself at this point why is the community so opposed to it?
They haven't addressed that yet.
They have Amit very very briefly touched on you know that he's happy for the responses
good or bad and so that was kind of a way to spend it as let's move forward in a constructive
way.
So
so let's keep going of how the program is structured in the different tracks but that's
really the core premise underneath it.
It's enable our engaged community members to support the sandbox and then ensure that
they have a way to be rewarded for doing so.
Cool.
Absolutely excellent.
At this point we are about a third of the way through this AMA and so far it's been
very high level very high level hasn't really addressed much of the questions.
So at this point when I'm thinking are we going to are we going to get to the actual
part of addressing why there's so much disagreement.
A third of the way in and most of it has been high level stuff to me is an eyebrow razor.
They're playing it too safe in my opinion.
They're playing it way too safe.
They're trying to spin this as a positive thing when the reason why they're doing this
AMA is because of all of the constructive criticism that has been levied at them so
far.
Answers to those from both of you guys.
Let's move on to the next question which is why did the sandbox decide to expand the program
now?
Why didn't we do it before?
Like I go back to my.
That's a great great answer.
That's a great answer.
Why didn't we do before?
But again in the context of why you're doing this AMA that's not really the question that
that is being asked.
There are a lot of other questions being asked like what is the distribution look like?
Do I have to do what you compel me to do because it creates a kind of like contractor freelancer
relationship with the NDA and in the contract being signed.
So there's certain things that you can't talk about and some of the initial responses by
all my friends.
There are some things you must talk about.
So that kind of introduces this this whole question of I'm not really an employee but
I'm being treated like one.
And so there's a lot a lot of questions and criticisms being levied at.
Why is that happening?
What's the necessity for it?
And the other lingering question was why should the Dow be the one paying for this and not
as part of the operating expense or the sandbox game and company?
Let's keep going.
It was question like what I was referring before like we've been traveling the world.
We've seen through the like many events.
Just the sandbox partner day, the sandbox creator days, the different landowners dinner
or sand holder different activity or NFT holder activities.
We've met people who are very passionate, people who just by themselves even if there
was not an ambassador program fully in place they were starting by themselves to speak
about sandbox around them to create content to attend our events to really like go beyond
just like following on social media.
Like the highest level of engagement and beyond.
And so I've been pushing for quite a long time.
It's like okay how do we create the ambassador program 2022 and then we have it in 2023 and
again in 2024.
So last June, sorry last May we introduced the Dow.
The core purpose of the Dow is to give the voice and allow the community to vote by themselves
of on the thing that like they want to do.
The priorities that they want us to associate and so we wanted to enable the community to
choose like the amount of budget and even going further not just choose the amount of
budget but ideally to vote on those ambassadors practice.
Okay so here in lies the here in lies where things start to turn a little bit.
Put it put it gently.
Seb just said we want the community to choose the ambassadors and their payment used to
turn budget.
And neither of that's happening with this sip.
So far so far.
So this sip introduced a budget of $400,000.
And I roll up here.
Right.
Actually, let's go to the actual snapshot.
So your snapshot.
View more.
Go down into the.
Where is it?
Benefits there budget.
Budget requested is $400,000.
Okay.
$400,000.
And kind of one more from that is they're about to answer the question of will the Dow
have any say in this?
Right.
So this is what Seb is saying now at 17 minutes in he wants the community to choose the ambassadors
and their budget.
So the sip introduced to the Dow it wants to pay them $400,000.
And then in the question and answer that I went through in podcast I think 18 or 17 where
we went into that Q&A section of the forums explained how the control of this program
is going to remain in the hands of the sandbox game.
Sandbox company.
So right now it looks like the community is getting neither.
It's not being able it's not able to assess a budget.
Technically you can say it is because it's going to vote yes.
I guess technically but that's a technicality big time.
There was no discussion on the Dow with the Dow members of 400,000 except through the
forums.
So maybe that's how they're going to say that that's how that was community led.
But it the whole sip was written by the sandbox team.
And as we found out the sandbox marketing team.
And then we we don't seem to be able to at least so far all indications that the sandbox
Dow community, SanFam will not be able to choose its ambassadors.
It's going to be chosen by central committee within the sandbox team.
So they are not just named by sandbox team alone but they.
Oh I pause it too early.
So he just finished his sentence that it won't just be chosen by the sandbox team alone.
Which is.
Yeah.
You know what that's going to be a question I'm going to ask.
So when Seb said this.
How does question how does this.
Integrate now what's the word.
How does this.
Lancer question.
How does budget and not just chosen by the sandbox team.
There we go.
So that's the statement.
Not just chosen and the sandbox team.
So then what's the question.
How does this.
Statement of intent.
Work with a meets.
Answer with actually all my friends.
Form response.
And a meet.
And what's the word.
He isn't reassure.
He confirms that.
The.
That control of the program will remain with sandbox.
That's the question.
Let's keep going.
They could become really the ambassador chosen by the community for the community.
So that would be for me like the ultimate iteration of what the program will propose.
And we've worked through that with the team with.
The feedback of all the team of course.
The one that's been the closest to the community for so many years to structure something that
give a start to that vision.
If I can compliment onto that server hi everybody yeah the goal.
So this is the first time Cyril is speaking.
And he's not been too involved with the sip itself I don't think.
So let's listen to hear what I have to say.
Is really we are on the path of progressive decentralization so you will see more and
more since that are more and more inclusive to the community and allow people to take
more active participation.
But this is very the first step right.
So in the seat that has been presented today is more about validate validating the program
as a whole.
But like you said said with this path to progressive decentralization will study carefully how
to open up more and more decision making decision power to the community going forward because
I believe that's the that's the trajectory.
That's the ultimate north star.
So Cyril just said that this this is the first step.
Toward progressive centralization which has been a phrase that they have used since May.
And we learned in podcast number which one was Mia podcast number 14 was she's been using
that term for a number of years and her videos.
So I think that's where the term came from.
But it basically means that it starts out with a centralized vision and controlling
committee and then over time more authority and decision making powers giving to the community
to the masses.
And they're doing that in a way that is that they're comfortable with that they believe
the community can respond well to and handle responsibly.
Which I fully I think that's that's probably a smart move.
It's just the rate at which this progressive decentralization is happening.
It's it's creating a lot of of growing pains a lot of as you can see this hip a lot of
disagreement.
I'm not sure if you're trying to speak again I see your mics turned off but I can't hear
any sound coming out from you.
Any luck.
Yes.
No.
Yes.
There he is.
Perfect.
Sorry guys.
I don't know what's going on here.
But just to follow up on the point of why now I would say historically it's important to
note that the ambassador program has been solely and largely centered around community
management.
So being active in discord and answering community questions like supporting them engaging with
them.
And as said said over the past several years in the past year especially we've seen that
the community wants to take on more types of roles and find more ways to contribute.
And many of you guys are doing so of your own volition supporting us on social supporting
us like this podcast creating your own.
And we wanted to find we saw the opportunity with that to expand the ambassador program
in the types of roles it actually supports.
And I think we're about to get into that with the next question with with Panda.
But that was really the goal.
It was we saw an opportunity to expand the ways that ambassadors can contribute to and
help grow the sandbox and it was an opportune moment with the Dow to be able to try to empower
and make that actually happen.
Excellent.
Thank you.
So as you said the next question will sort of explain a little bit more.
Okay.
So we're almost halfway and let's let's go back and listen a little bit but it's still
very high level hasn't really gotten to the point where
they've answered the questions.
So this is turning to be this is so far halfway through turned more into a kind of like a
press release than than anything.
So very marketing which being chief marketing officer that's that's exactly his job.
So I don't I don't fault that at all.
Let's just keep with the relaunch.
So we need to slide.
So we're good on that one.
Those questions.
The sandbox has created four different ambassador tracks for those that might not understand
what those tracks are can you explain what each of them are.
And as we may have lost them again we do have a potential backup speaker.
I'm going to introduce so we do have Kelsey Dolby our head of marketing some of you may
have already met them online and all my friends.
So that's where it was revealed that Kelsey Dolby was part of she's head of marketing
and she has been the voice behind all my friends or at least one of them.
That seems like the voice.
So if I can't speak we luckily Kelsey is here to answer some of these questions.
So this is good.
This is a great opportunity for Kelsey.
We've been all my friends she's mostly been the one in the sandbox forums.
You know right here that's Candley Kristen that's me.
Where's the one there it is so generally been the one responding to everyone in the forums
and when she did respond responded great.
I loved the answers.
It was really helping to clarify some of the things that were happening.
But but okay so but let's hear it because Kelsey should have her finger on the pulse
right.
She should know what's happening.
I don't know if you guys can hear me I'm kind of swap.
I don't know what's going on guys every time I mute maybe I just don't mute from now on
every time I mute it seems like it changes my settings somehow really quickly on the
ambassador tracks and if we continue to have this we'll just have Kelsey step in so sorry
again so yeah we have four different tracks it goes to okay so Kelsey's not speaking right
now back to Amit who is now explaining the ambassador tracks.
I really hope she speaks because this is an opportunity for Kelsey to weigh in on what
she's been seeing on the forums and in if she's been monitoring discord the Dow discussion
and if she's been monitoring Twitter the Twitter threads that are public.
The prior point I made around expanding the types of roles ambassadors can can fulfill
for the sandbox.
The first one is community manager so that is the core role that the initial program
is built upon the goal of it is to interact with the community on the sandbox social and
community channels so not just on discord which has been the primary way in the past
that ambassadors have engaged with the community but also even on Twitter and on Facebook and
Instagram and Telegram and in different channels to where when we have community members that
ask questions and engage we want to have people present there that are knowledgeable about
the sandbox to be responsive to that so that's the core community manager role.
Content creator is the next track that one is one where it was inspired by the community
itself.
We've seen so many instances on socials on YouTube on Twitter on Instagram of the community
creating amazing content that frankly our own internal marketing team is really jealous
of and we were like oh wow we wish we could have content like that and thought to create
these things.
That was very nice of him to say.
Like that's cool that's real that seems very real.
You're saying and it's flattering so props props for saying that I mean.
Your guys's creativity along with expertise on the platform is obviously unsurpassed and
so we wanted to create an ambassador track.
You can definitely tell though head of marketing a chief marketing officer excuse me.
It's very flattering very.
Self depreciating so in a way to raise up the community makes sense as a as a marketing
team.
To be able to allow community members who have the ability and the desire to create
content about the sandbox to be supported in doing so and so the content creators are
going to be tasked with making content for the sandbox to publish on our own channels
and so they.
Oh like cyber dragon.
I missed that part.
Will be creating content for publishing on TSB channels.
That's an important point so Sandow podcast would not be able to exist within that role.
As I publish on my own channels and publishing the Sandow podcast on the sandbox channels
doesn't doesn't work.
This is a Dow funded if the sip goes through and we're funded it'll be a Dow supported
effort not a sandbox it's not it's not a sandbox.
But cast.
The idea is that.
You guys will come up with ideas for content whether it's on the creator ecosystem around
the game maker the player side with game client showing off playing your favorite experiences
creating assets and box edit whatever it is and then our team will be able to take that
content and post it on our socials for to give it a bigger platform.
Next we have the KOL track key opinion leader track and this one is similar to content creator
but there's an important distinction which is it's still around the ambassador creating
content but this is for the ambassador to be posting on their own channels.
The idea is that KOL have built up followings of varying sizes of course some of them might
be video games and that might be fashion and that might be web 3 but in different verticals
and different niches and of different sizes.
We have so many KOL that are a part of the sandbox and so this is going to be a track
that enables our ambassadors to create content and publish it to their own community.
Hey Chikking.
Hey Chinga.
Hey DeRuth.
What's up?
So this is this would be the one that Sandow podcast would be in.
It would be under the key opinion leader something that I published to our own channel and yeah
and I did submit for the ambassador program I'm still not sure I'm still on the fence
about it still on the fence we're halfway through and they're they're explaining the
ambassador tracks which they've already done in the medium article and on the forum post.
So at this point I'm kind of kind of in a kind of in a weird state I'm like this isn't
really an AMA because these questions have already been asked and answered so I'm really
hoping that they get to answering the tough questions that have been asked of them and
not let it go by.
That's my hope.
And be rewarded for doing so and lastly we have IGL those of you that are gamers might
be familiar with this this term but in-game leader and this is a unique one and we've
done it in the past at times but the idea is that the same and this one I think they've
done in the past very successfully where they would host in-game tournaments or in-game
prizes and if you showed up at that time and then participated in the event or whatever
then you got an airdrop it's pretty cool.
The sandbox is a metaverse it's a social space and we want people and our players to also
be able to engage with ambassadors while they're actually playing the sandbox in their experiences
in the hubs and things like that and so we also wanted to have a track where people and
ambassadors that play the game can be rewarded for simply being present and engaging with
both new and existing community members within the platform itself and so these are the four
tracks we have community manager, content creator, key opinion leader or KOL and IGL
or in-game leader.
We could even expand it further in the future but these are four distinct.
I sure hope so because one of the questions that I asked was where is the ambassador DOW?
Where the DOW ambassador? Cyril and his team need help engaging and their team is small
and you can tell because they're struggling to moderate.
I think Cyril said in a response to one of my threads that there is no moderator per
se.
Geraldine is tasked with promoting the creating threads on SIPs and then answering some where
Geraldine is able to but they need help.
They need people to help so I think they should open up a DOW ambassador track.
Tracks that we identified as opportunities to expand upon the existing program.
Excellent.
I think it's also important to maybe let the people listening know that people applying
for these ambassador roles they could potentially be part of multiple different tracks.
Is that correct?
Yep, that's absolutely correct.
So obviously it's time commitment willing and so we need to be confident that the people
that want to be a part of multiple tracks do have the bandwidth and ability to succeed
at them but they're not mutually exclusive.
You can absolutely have someone that's both a content creator and a community manager.
That's cool.
That's an interesting thing.
So you can kind of be both.
Let's green up that section so we're past that and we're at the next question which
was can people be part of multiple tracks?
It says, survey says yes.
Or vice versa or any combination.
That's good to know.
That's something new.
I don't think we've heard that answer before.
Excellent.
And I'm just going to stay, please don't mute your mic.
It needs to stay on constantly.
That was the first question asked that wasn't asked or answered in the forums up until this
point that I'm aware of.
Our next question is how will the ambassadors be compensated for their work?
Yeah, so this is rightfully I think been a pretty hot topic in the doubt.
Here we go.
Hot topic.
That's it.
Let's talk about it.
Because this is where it gets.
This is where people like Candley Christen have some very strong opinions and criticisms
that what they've seen so far.
So Amit, what do you got for us?
Out for them and on socials.
And so I think it's important for us to kind of address this, of course, a couple things.
Number one, there's going to be a set uniform transparent compensation plan across the ambassador.
And all my friends did post that one earlier today.
Let's take a look at it real fast.
So here it is the compensation matrix.
There we go.
So if you are a KOL influencer, the light version is one post every two weeks, the full
version is one post a week.
And it looks like it's all doubled.
So at the micro level, you get 100 sand a month, lower mid level, you get 200 sand a
month, upper mid level 500, and macro levels 800.
I don't know what each I don't know what that means micro lower upper macro lanes, but of
the light version, that's the compensation and the full version is that doubled.
And the full version if you post one time a week for content creators, the light version
is one making one asset every two weeks, and you get 250 sand a month, whereas the full
version is one asset a week and you get 500 sand a month.
For community management, the light version is spend four hours a week, you get 750 sand
a month.
And the full version is eight hours a week and you get 1500 sand a month.
That's a pretty good amount.
That's pretty good amount.
The 100 sand 200 sand and the 200 sand foreign is in for the KOL influencers that that's
kind of low.
I mean, you pretty much get that about that just participating in the events.
But I mean, it's better than zero for content creators, you're getting more.
So it seems like Oh, and in the end game, the end game, the light version for four hours
a week is foreign sand.
I would fire them I would bump it up is your end game, play retention is pretty important.
Pretty important.
Yeah, I could change it said understand is $25.
So that micro under the light of KOL influencers, that's $25 a month, US dollars.
And then it's $50 a month for full.
And that's posting once a week.
So the end game, the light is four hours a week, which is 400 sand.
The full is eight hours a week.
800 sand.
These numbers seem a little bit low.
And as I recall, the current ambassadors are getting I don't think they're even getting
that much.
I remember I think I saw someone put what their compensation was somewhere but it was
it was not much at all they had said.
So that that was what all my friends responded to on the forums after the AMA.
And then talking about how there's currently 35 ambassadors right now.
And but only I think five are active at any given time, which is surprising.
It seems like there are more ambassadors active than that.
They just seem to be more present than just five people.
What conditions would a newly accepted ambassador not receive compensation?
This is just all my friends just said this is only about talking about the application
of it.
And not not the actual like if you get accepted as ambassador, you will be compensated for
your work.
That's what that same what's stopping TSB from welcoming and even more members.
Just because they said they were focused on community management and fostering the ecosystem.
And as they've grown into new markets, which that pairs nicely with what Seb said as to
why they delayed a Dow until May of this year, we see it now is a great time to revamp the
program and allow more participation and rewards.
We felt that proposing and the Dow makes the most sense given the goals in the Ambassador
Program and the Dows are in alignment.
Okay, cool.
Makes sense.
What about this does not allow you to project the exact number of ambassadors and went through
a few reasons, variable compensation, so they hadn't quite figured out what the compensation
was yet.
On what tracks they're offering, they couldn't predict the quality of the candidates.
So making sure that one post was actually enough a week.
Next one was what key metrics so active members assets delivered.
So they had sound like they hadn't yet figured this part out yet.
Up until recently.
They didn't really know and they didn't know they needed to know, which kind of goes along
with what what I had been saying how my sips had been under pretty intense scrutiny, or
really detailing down to the nth degree, what it was that my sip was offering.
Whereas the sandbox sip, I don't think they had this didn't seem like they had this yet.
A light and full track and kind of see the grammar of it.
It's kind of all in lowercase.
I don't think that this was made before the sip was created.
And I don't really necessarily think it needed to until the community asked for it.
Like, that's your time to create it.
It doesn't necessarily have to be done 100% to the nth degree beforehand.
And then I think the Dow team, because it was a sandbox sip from the sandbox team, they
let it go through the condition that it's in.
And then they realized, oh, shoot, the community is really asking all of these questions.
And then they need to give more and they did.
So they did.
I don't I don't fault the process here for that one.
Just don't apply more scrutiny to my sip.
Because I'm a community member, and I don't have quite the power that the sandbox team
does.
All right, and then will the management the program change from the sandbox to the Dow
sandbox for me and the manager of the ambassador program and pretty soon here, Amit will say
that outright.
The Dow is providing the funding for the program and we request support, blah, blah, blah,
allegations and cheating.
We take it very seriously.
Any requests reviewed by internal teams and our anti cheat parameters.
Ambassador program compensation, which we went over first.
So that was all my friends response to a lot of my questions and then other community questions.
After that.
Okay, let's keep going back to the AMA.
Which has comments as well.
Miguel said one problem I always believe the sandbox had is that they think sand is worth
$1 and tomorrow will be worth 10.
I don't disagree with that.
I myself believe even though I know it's trading at what 26 cents right now on the dollar.
I understand.
I look at it as I want to be $1.
I hope it will be more than that in the future.
It isn't right now though.
So yeah, yeah, that's, that's fair.
Alright, back to the AMA entire ambassador program.
And so each of the four tracks that we just outlined will have two levels of time commitment.
There's going to be a light version and a full version for content creators and K wells
light versus full is determined by the number of posts for community managers and IGLs.
It's based on the hours they put in.
But in both cases, you're going to have two tracks of time commitment.
And they're going to have set amounts of compensation per track accordingly.
We have been getting feedback and going back and forth with both existing ambassadors as
well as new applicants that are interested in joining the program.
And so we're still finalizing exactly what those numbers will be.
But that's what I mean.
They didn't know yet.
I don't think they needed they thought they needed to know yet and I don't fault them
for not knowing.
You need to know if you're asked.
There's SIP creating SIPs is hard.
It's very hard.
I've done five of them and I'm gonna I'm working on three more.
It takes a lot of research, a lot of critical thinking takes a lot of like back end formulas
and just all sorts of stuff you have to anticipate questions and then decide on whether or not
though answering those questions in the SIP is worth it.
Not worth it, but is it significant enough to put in the SIP?
You want to give so much detail that you get tons of disagreement on the fine details.
So there's an incentive to keep it at the high level because at the high level people
can agree on things.
But when you start getting down into the those is it 100 sand or 200 sand and then people
will vote no because you decided to say 200 sand versus 100 sand.
We didn't really need to say so in the beginning.
Like that's a whole negotiation that I myself have an appreciation for having gone through
this process.
So Kachenga said that and not communicating anything to us that makes us believe it.
Yes, agreed.
Agreed.
Should have been much more communicative before now, you know, three days before the SIP ends.
I think they realized that there was so much disagreement going on that they fear that
would derail some of the yes no vote and we're seeing that's not the case right now.
But yeah, it is of note for sure.
And this is an important point.
We plan on publishing and sharing with all of you what that compensation track is going
to be.
And that's what we just went over here with all my friends.
This part right here.
All four different ambassador tracks at the two different commitment levels publicly.
So everyone will have full visibility and transparency into what the compensation is
for the different tracks.
Now to be noted, full visibility and transparency at the tail end of the vote.
But like I said, I don't fault them for it.
And that it just took them a long time to respond to it.
That's what it really was.
There were questions about the distribution weeks ago during the public comment period.
It could mean as a community member you're able to be in the know.
Or it could mean as a prospective ambassador you know what you're going to be getting and
what you're going to be signing up for.
I do want to note that just from an admin perspective because I saw this question, ambassadors
are not employees of the sandbox but rather they're contractors.
And so it's a much more flexible work arrangement.
And the time commitment that we're expecting from ambassadors is much, much, much less
than what we would expect from a full-time employee or something like that.
But yeah, in terms of compensation, we will be sharing that.
Ambassadors will be compensated in sand on a monthly basis.
And the initial numbers that we share, they will be subject to change, but that will largely
be due to if we see tremendous fluctuations in sand or things like that.
Because we want to ensure that ambassadors are always being compensated fairly and reasonably
on global payments.
So there you have it.
And it looks like which will be adjusted to ensure they are compensated fairly.
And that's directly to what Kachinga was just saying and Miguel.
So it looks like Amit is saying that they are willing to change the compensation rate,
which is why it's so difficult.
Should you put it in the SIP or should you not?
Because these things are subject to change, and they're allowed to be changed like that.
So that gives them flexibility.
But where now we nailed them to give us a number, they did.
And then we disagree with the number or whatever, and then people vote no because of it.
It's just, it invites more.
I understand and appreciate why they didn't.
But because they're asked so much about it, they did.
And I think that was the right move to make.
They scaled, but we'll be transparent, we'll be shared, and we'll be uniform across the
whole program.
Excellent.
Well, Miguel, Miguel said in chat, being someone who is very impatient, I think it would be
very difficult to me to create a SIP or prepare it and meet the requirements of the Dow team.
Yeah, right now the requirements of the Dow team are pretty high.
And that's because they stated that they want these initial SIPs to be spot on.
They want to be in top form, that way they serve as an example to all the other SIPs
that follow.
And as a result, most of my SIPs have been waiting for comments for over 30 days.
Even the SIP that is closest to vote has been waiting for almost a week.
And just the back and forth needed, it's because they only have one person working SIPs right
now and Cyril is trying to hire more than one.
So, yeah.
So, moving on.
So who manages the Ambassador program now and will ownership change if the SIP passes?
Here it goes.
I can take this one on and then Cyril or Seb, if you guys want to jump in afterwards.
Yeah, we saw some questions about ownership of this and the fact that...
And so this long kind of buildup kind of tells you what the answer is going to be already.
Amit, even though this is mostly the marketing team speaking and they're going to have this
sort of wrapper, one could call it fluff, I would just call it healthy explanation.
You can expect that.
You know to expect that.
But this kind of tiptoeing toward it kind of tells you what the answer is going to be.
I'll give you one guess.
It's being brought as a SIP to the DAO.
The reason why it's being brought to the DAO is because we think the vision of the Ambassador
program is incredibly closely aligned with what the DAO's own purpose is, which is...
Go on.
Well, how do we enable the community to participate in the evolution and growth of the sandbox
ecosystem?
And so that's what the Ambassador...
That is a confusing answer to me.
Let's look at what's the vision of the DAO.
So it's in vision.
So here's the vision.
Vision is to one community, many parts.
We are a metaverse diverse platform.
It is also working with impact.
We work with a collective to build a platform that serves the community.
It's empowerment.
In our community, everyone's matters.
Your participation via digital ownership allows you to share the future and transparency.
Decisions, information, and process.
If I had to guess, they're trying to fill it through vision statement number one, which
was one community, many parts, and vision statement number three, which is empowerment
to empower the community.
However, this came from the sandbox team.
And we'll see here in a second, Amit confirmed that it's going to remain with the sandbox
team.
So it's not going to be in the DAO's ownership.
So what empowerment is there in line with the vision statement?
I'm not sure.
Your program is there to do.
It's there to engage and support the community in growing the sandbox.
With that said, the sandbox existing ambassador program has been managed by the sandbox's
own community team, and that's going to remain the case.
And so that was well worded.
So the sandbox existing ambassador program has been managed by the sandbox, its own community
management team, and this will remain the case.
So very, very nicely worded.
There you have it.
It's not going to the DAO.
There's no DAO ownership of it of any kind.
The DAO is just paying for it.
The DAO will not be the active managers of the sandbox ambassador program.
It will be the basically the source of support.
And that basically means just the money for the program.
But the actual management of the ambassador program will remain with the community team,
which I think our existing ambassadors and those who that have interacted with them,
Panda being a member of it, can agree that they've been doing a great job.
That was news to me.
So I didn't know.
I knew that there was like a sandbox team who managed the ambassador program.
I didn't know that they were that that team was managed by or that Panda was on it, as
is other community members.
That was news.
I don't disagree with that.
I don't find that be like offensive or or wrong in any way.
It's just I had never seen that I had not heard that before.
It's been been of immense value and trust with the community, and so they will remain
the primary caretakers of the ambassador program.
And in terms so that's kind of I think where they're saying the community is involved,
empowered because it seems like the community is choosing the ambassadors.
So in a way, you can say that the community is but that is very much outside of the DAO.
So the DAO is not choosing anything, it seems like, but a part of the community who has
been granted the authority to choose the ambassadors is and they themselves are community members
like like Panda Pops, who, by the way, has a and my has my full faith and trust.
I think Panda is great.
I've seen Panda just be involved since I've been here.
So yeah, I don't have any mistrust about that.
But as some people mentioned in the forum post after this, the trust isn't with that
the mistrust isn't against Panda Pops.
It's against this whole system that's created a here's a here's your sip.
Here's your sip.
Now go vote.
And then there wasn't much.
It didn't seem to be much that changed in the sip because of the forum post.
The amount stayed the same.
All of that.
The only thing that changed was they created more on top of it.
So I wouldn't exactly call that community driven.
So much as it was sandbox driven, and they asked for the community to endorse it.
Big difference.
Read the chat.
Miguel said being a someone you already spoke on that.
Ching, I think I saw you say something about my my stream chat just just
I missed it.
Okay, so yeah, that that kind of revealed it.
That was the big reveal.
I think that's what they've been building up to.
We are over halfway done now.
And they're still at a very high level.
So this is getting into the granular that the Dow will not be participating as active
managers in any way.
It'll just be the sandbox team and the sandbox community team within that team who are community
members reviewing applications and such.
So this is the first foray into them getting specific.
So I'm gonna note that first time specifics.
First time specifics.
Yeah, are are spoken about, I guess.
All right, so I appreciate that they they said this.
No, I have thoughts about it.
And I have a podcast coming up with Joseph about this topic.
Like, should the Dow money be for the Dow?
Or should it be for the sandbox?
How should we look at that?
That's coming up in about a week and a half.
I don't delve into that topic much right now, but I appreciate that they spoke about it.
They spoke about it and they gave us a straight answer.
Okay, keep going.
How new ambassadors will be accepted.
Right now, the community team is the one that's leading that.
So it's not the Dow, it's not the council members that are interviewing the ambassador,
but it's rather the existing community team from the sandbox that has been there for a
very long time and includes members of the community itself.
And in the future, the goal is for ambassadors themselves to be able to play an active role
in interviewing and accepting and evaluating ambassador candidates.
I'm confused about what that means.
Because I think isn't Panda right now an ambassador?
But she was an ambassador.
Maybe she's not maybe she's part of the community team.
And so she's like one step above that, but not quite an employee.
I'm not really sure the status is.
But I think what he's saying is the ambassadors that are being interviewed and accepted now
will have some say in interviewing and accepting future ambassadors.
So maybe like an ambassador hiring team of ambassadors.
Yeah, sure.
And so it's that the community will get to really appoint and select the ambassadors
that they want to be.
So what that tells me is that in the future, they plan on doing it and not this one.
So interesting.
No.
So we're Seb said earlier, we want the community to do this, we want the community to be the
ones to determine the budget.
I think what Seb was speaking about was a future thing.
So I think this gives clarity.
So future.
Future ambassador.
Program.
Will have more ambassador.
Okay.
In the program themselves.
Thanks, Kachinga.
I can just add a few things.
I think, Amit, what you said, spot on, this is naturally being presented by the DAO for
voting because that's something to embark as many community member and active community
member and transform them into ambassadors.
So that naturally felt like a good candidate for a SIP because the DAO is our way to connect
deeply with the community.
But like you said, there's no such thing as reporting to the DAO or be accountable to
the DAO's community because the DAO's community and the sandbox community is one community
at the end of the day, right?
We are two sister company that work hand in hand and share the same goals.
So it's just the DAO is kind of acting like the bank, if you want on this one, if I can
oversimplify it, but all management and day to day activity will surely remain in the
hands of the current team, your team and the marketing people.
So this was an interesting comment from Cyril.
And I think it revealed the heart of what my, my uneasiness is about this whole thing.
Alright, so let's go through it one more time.
Amit said that the question was at 30 minutes by Panda.
She asked who manages the sandbox program now and who will when the SIP passes.
Amit said the sandbox is it existing ambassador program has been managing the ambassador.
The sandbox teams, community management team has been managing that.
It will remain the case.
The DAO won't be an active manager in any way in the ambassador program, but in the
future the goal was for the ambassadors themselves to be involved in interviewing and accepting
other ambassador candidates.
Unsure exactly what that means, but okay.
And Cyril says this SIP is a natural thing for the to be presented within the DAO.
And it felt like a good candidate because the DAO is connected deeply with the community
and there's no such thing.
And even though that's the case, there is no such thing as reporting to the DAO's community.
They work hand in hand and share the same goals.
But most interestingly, he said that they're the same team.
The DAO community and the sandbox community is the same.
And if that's the case, that struck me as...
I lost my train of thought.
I'll go back.
I'll go back just a little bit.
So 13, 3316.
Let's go back.
Oh dear.
I have to go through all over again.
Some sort of problem with the thing itself.
The reason why it's being brought to the DAO is because we think the vision of the ambassador
program is incredibly closely aligned with what the DAO's own purpose is, which is how
do we enable the community to participate in the evolution and growth of the sandbox
ecosystem?
And so that's what the ambassador program is there to do.
It's there to engage and support the community in growing the sandbox.
With that said, the sandbox existing ambassador program has been managed by the sandbox's
own community team.
And that's going to remain the case.
We'll remind you of that in the first part.
That naturally felt like a good candidate for a SIP because the DAO is our way to connect
deeply with the community.
But like you said, there's no such thing as reporting to the DAO or be accountable to
the DAO's community because the DAO's community and the sandbox community is one community
at the end of the day.
You have two sister companies that work hand in hand and share the same goals.
So it's just the DAO is kind of acting like the bank.
If you want on this one, if I can oversimplify it, but all management and day to day activity
will surely remain in the hands of the current team, your team and the marketing people.
There we go.
So there's no such thing as reporting to the DAO community because the DAO community and
sandbox community is the same thing.
And I appreciate that Cyril said this.
I don't have any misgivings about that perspective.
However, that does create some interesting conflicts with what's been said so far.
If the DAO community and the sandbox community is the same thing, why is the DAO paying for
it?
Why isn't the DAO involved in the hiring process at all?
They're the same thing, right?
DAO community, sandbox community.
So that being the case, there's some interesting...
The DAO and the DAO Foundation and the sandbox game company are two separate entities, but
yet they're the same community.
So the DAO should be paying for something that the sandbox game company manages, but
they're separate, but the same.
So there's this kind of weird...
I think...
And because this is a one-way communication, there isn't much that people can respond back
to on this.
And when I heard that statement from Cyril just now, I was scratching my head.
The SIP came from the sandbox team to manage and increase the compensation for a sandbox
team managed activity.
They want the DAO to pay for it as the bank because they believe the DAO's vision and
the sandbox team with the ambassador program are closely aligned and overlapping, but they
won't give the DAO any control over anything.
It will remain answering to the sandbox community team, which answers to the sandbox marketing
team.
That has me scratch my head.
There's something I don't like about that.
Something that seems off about that explanation and how that's all been connecting to the
AMA so far.
This is what I will be talking to Joseph about is what is the DAO money really for?
Yep.
So I'll put in my little note here.
And I'm not uneasy about what Cyril about Cyril saying this.
I'm uneasy about how what Cyril just said compares in contrast with what has been pushed
so far in this SIP.
Yes.
I don't know.
Yeah, Kachinga said a contradiction.
I agree.
I the contradiction to me was just as soon as he said that I'm like, well, wait a minute.
Hold on.
It seems like you're some people are saying that to their benefit and now and now that
we're saying well, why isn't that a part of this?
Then you're saying well, because they're the same.
They're the same.
So they don't need to be a part of this.
DAO doesn't need to be part of this, because the DAO community and the sandbox community
are the same thing.
But they are definitely separate, you know, when it comes to funding because the South
sandbox foundation, which is the DAO and the sandbox community and the sandbox game company
are legally separate.
So both are both things are being said in this interview as AMA, excuse me.
So I'm uneasy about this.
There seems like a contradiction in stating that the sandbox DAO community, so San Fam
and sandbox game community are the same thing.
That's not that's not the contradiction in stating that the sand that the DAO community
won't have a say in how the ambassador program is managed.
While also saying the sandbox community and the sandbox and sandbox game community are
the same thing.
That seems like a big contradiction.
And while also saying that the DAO should pay for the ambassador program, because the
DAO's vision and San and ambassador program is aligned.
So you want the money without the accountability or responsibility to the DAO.
So that's where that sits.
That's the way it reads.
Change the color so it's a little bit easier to read.
Oh, that's purple.
It's not what I want.
That looks a little better.
And by the way, if we had done Sandale podcast episode, I think we could have we could have
worked our way through this in a very polite, gentle manner that wouldn't have been overly
confrontational.
We just would have discussed some of the peculiarities about that statement so that we could understand
a little bit better.
And so that would help to resolve the mental the mental red flag that that brings up.
That would have been my aim.
Okay, let's keep going.
Not sure if I said anything additional to add to that, but I am going to follow up with
sort of a side question to who's managing the ambassador program.
So if a if a sip comes out for an ambassador may not wish the support of remote, because
it has been mentioned that content can be requested.
Will these ambassadors be forced to promote this?
Yeah, it's a it's a good question.
And that is a good question.
Very simple.
Absolutely not.
So there will absolutely never be like pressure or force put on our ambassadors to support
a sip that they don't that is not in line with their own beliefs.
I think it's important to say that as a sandbox ambassador, in my view, it's important to
always engage all topics in like a constructive and and like mindful way.
Like we're definitely going to have a code of conduct that we expect from from ambassadors.
But at no point will any ambassador be pressured to support a sip or take a view or stance
or produce content that's not in line with with how they feel.
And that's good.
Ambassadors if we think about the different tracks, whether it's community, whether it's
content that would help me if I begin to get back to that.
That's differentiation between the Dow's role here in this program.
As Cyril put it, the Dow is supporting the program from a sand perspective, from a budgetary
perspective.
But it's not that the ambassador's primary goal here is solely focused on the Dow and
SIPs.
It's really about the sandbox ecosystem at large.
And that to me is the telltale sign that it's not really the Dow at all.
I'm not I'm not seeing any responsibility to the Dow at this point.
How will they engage with the Dow?
That's something I need to ask.
Right.
That ends your question.
How will ambassadors engage with the Dow specifically?
Through the forums, Twitter.
I mean, where where where is that engagement going to happen?
I'm hoping that the engagement isn't zero.
You know, you get the money and then you forget about it.
I hope not.
All right, let's keep going.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's not really about forcing the ambassador to vote yes or no or whatever.
But at least, you know, being able to share that, yes, there's SIPs going on.
There's some voting that is happening.
This is where ambassador can really help the Dow just being known.
But obviously, we will never ask anybody to be in favor or against anything of the SIPs
that are published if they have strong opinions.
But just, you know, this part was confusing to me because Cyril is the Dow administrator
and he's speaking on behalf of a sandbox team managed activity.
So being there to relay the message as far as the Dow.
That's good.
Cyril here is saying that they're going to help by relaying the message and advertise
that SIPs are going on.
So that's good.
I think that answers the question.
This concern would be more than enough already.
Absolutely.
Like, this is not a job.
You're not an employee.
You're not bound or limited.
This is flexible.
You choose how you participate, how much time.
You choose a topic that has your interest, which reflects your value.
You even decide the method of how you can relay the information and drive.
We want to improve what we have and leverage the knowledge, the know-how that you have,
like what makes you an ambassador to reach to new agencies, to increase the participation
and to decide how you do it.
You are not having someone telling you what to do.
You actually have the whole autonomy and freedom to decide how you're going to do it, how you're
going to drive that engagement.
Your methods should also and obviously be respectful of the platform and respect of
the community.
But I'm excited to see how we're going to see very diverse methods.
And some will be more or less effective depending on the thematic, the country of the world,
and so on.
One quick thing that Seb said there that I think is also important in how to frame the
Ambassador Program is he said it's not a job.
And I think that's really important.
The Ambassador's Program, it's not there to end to be thought of as like a method of employment.
The ambassadors are not like employees or full-time workers.
And we're not thinking of the Ambassador Program as like a job.
It really is there for passionate community members who love spending time in the sandbox
and around the sandbox and talking about the sandbox and finding ways to reward them for
doing so.
It's not intended to be like a replacement for a job or a placement for full-time compensation
and things like that.
It's really important to say that.
And we're not expecting that type of responsibility or time commitment from our ambassadors.
But in any type of community, especially in gaming, you have hardcore fans and people
that just love or hate the product, but they really just want to talk about it and engage
with it.
And this is a program that's designed to support those people and reward them for the time
that they're already largely putting in.
Well said.
That was well said.
It stayed high level.
It didn't really get down into the weeds and it pretty much echoed what Seb said.
That was well said.
Good job.
Excellent on all of that.
The next question, let's move on to, will the Dow Council leadership be involved in
the selection of ambassadors?
I feel like this is slightly different.
The answer is probably no.
Right.
I think they answered that indirectly.
Yeah, absolutely not.
That's what they will.
Again, the role of the council is to give a recommendation on the SIPP itself.
And they already did that.
When the SIPP is, you know, every time the SIPP is being in the work, it is presented
to the council.
There's a good debate going on.
Council's asking questions, it's listening to the operation and then administrative team
to check for legality or, you know, relevance of the proposal itself.
And then there's a vote and the council gives an overall recommendation and gets attached
to the SIPP.
That's the extensive, that's what they do and their work stops there.
So they will absolutely not be involved in the day to day of selecting any ambassadors,
unless the SIPP is about, you know, one particular ambassador, right, which is not the case today.
Right now we're effectively asking the committee to vote on like engaging a budget, starting
an effort, doing something versus what we had before doing nothing.
So we expect that everyone wants to do something and it opens the door to like then after that,
refine, be flexible and so on.
We're not asking you to vote for yes or not in favor of one person, individual, one ambassador
in person and so on.
That's not the case.
So we hope like really the key took away after this IMA and before the voting on the SIPP
clause is like, please vote yes, no abstain, but let's reach the quorum so we can enforce
and kick off something that will impact sandbox starting this second half of the year.
A very good point made by you Seb right now, which is no matter what your vote is, definitely
do go vote.
So yeah, go to the sandbox of DAO SIPP 11 and you'll be able to vote yes or no or you
can abstain if you so wish and yeah, definitely go cast your vote because your opinions definitely
matter in regards to all of the SIPPs that we launch as part of the sandbox of DAO.
So it's with knowing like yes, the council, the DAO council and leadership aren't involved
in selection process.
It is the selection process will just be the sandbox marketing team.
So moving on, what is the current size of the program and how will that change with
the relaunch and I think this is targeted to you.
Sure.
So cool.
This is a good one.
This is a great question.
I'll get myself in order here.
So the question Panda asked was what is the current size of the program and how will that
change?
So these are specifics.
We are two thirds of the way through.
On the size of the current program, it's varied over time with the EBS and PROS, but on average
it's been at about 30 to 35 ambassadors, again, largely focused in that community manager
capacity, but at any given time I would say five to 10 of those are active and engaged
on a weekly basis and talking to the community.
So that's the current scale of the existing program.
So we saw that answer with all my friends a little bit earlier when I pulled up the
compensation table and Amit just said it here.
So on average, there are about 30 to 35 ambassadors in the investor program and at any given time
only five or 10 of them are active.
Okay.
That's fascinating.
I did not know that.
It sounded like they were way more active, but if only five or 10 are in actively engaged
on a weekly basis, I get why they're doing this SIP.
I get it.
They want to incentivize more participation.
Makes sense.
Keep going.
In terms of how it will change with the relaunch, I think I can share and I'm excited to share
that we've had over 800 applicants already in the program.
That's not to say all of them are like perfect fits for the project.
And I'm one of those 800.
And frankly, with the initial budget we have, it's not that it's going to be enough to support
every single person.
But the goal of this new relaunch is absolutely to substantially scale the size of the program
and be able to have far more ambassadors and far more roles while obviously ensuring that
all of them are being compensated fairly for their time and commitment.
And like I mentioned, that compensation will be shared upfront with every ambassador who
can then make a decision of whether they wish to join or not.
But I think it's fair to say that our goal by the end of the year is to reach over 100
ambassadors that are active, which would represent a 20x increase over what I think we have currently.
And it's very ambitious.
And then we move into next year and evaluate and try to go from there.
I don't think it's super ambitious.
I think that's the right move to make.
We were very, very humbled and excited by the initial amount of interested parties to
the new program.
So it is a pretty big number.
And to whittle that down to 100 through the management team, that's achievable.
Sorry about that.
I got slightly disconnected there.
So what can the community expect for the future of the program?
Seb, I don't know if you want to take this one.
I can say a few things and then maybe let Seb finish it off.
So I think, you know, this is helping me.
One of the key things is that we want to be responsive to the community.
We're not suggesting that the SIPP exactly how it's been proposed is perfect as is.
But the goal of the SIPP, the goal of the new program is very clear.
We want to...
That's an interesting thing to say.
Put it this way.
That's an interesting thing for the Dow admin team to accept.
Right now the SIPP process is when it goes to vote like it is right now.
When that happens...
Let's see.
When that happens...
I just lost my train of thought.
There were some spam chats that just happened.
Okay, he said it wasn't perfect.
So the expectation so far is that when the SIPP goes to vote, after the public comment
period, that that's the SIPP that they're going to accept and expect of you.
I think what Amit is saying is that it will change after the fact.
I'm not opposed to that.
I just want to be fairly applied by the admin team across all SIPPs, not just sandbox.
That's it.
That's my only note there.
As long as this is applied fairly across all SIPPs and not just CSB SIPPs, this is fine.
Yeah, that's fine.
Just make sure you're not applying a different level of scrutiny to community SIPPs.
Because at that point, I mean, no, then you're giving the many dozens of CSB SIPPs a distinct
advantage over being passed than every community SIPP at that point, including mine.
That's not cool.
Okay, so let's see.
What do you say?
This SIPP isn't perfect.
Will improve over time.
You want to grow the number of community members, the number of you who are listening right
now who are able to be involved in the sandbox and are able to be rewarded for being involved
in the sandbox.
And the most important thing that you can trust is that it will be an iterative program.
And so even right now, the reason why we haven't published and shared the compensation structure
is because we're listening to feedback from our existing ambassadors and from applicants
and things like that, and making adjustments and listening to you all.
And that'll continue to happen, whether it's around the number of tracks, how it's structured.
All these types of things will continue to evolve and change with the community and based
on your feedback.
But the goal of the new ambassador program is to be able to expand and have more community
members involved and rewarded for supporting the sandbox.
And that's what you can expect in terms of the future of the program.
I think it's just the beginning.
Once it's voted, the rest can follow.
If it's not voted, what's going to evolve?
If we reach the quorum, there's three scenarios, like we don't reach the quorum, so effectively
we cannot advance on it.
We reach the quorum and yes, it's voted at the majority.
Then we can officially kick things off, we'll be even more active into it, we'll involve
multiple people, we'll publish and propose a different level of compensation for the
different action and activity based on the four categories that were mentioned previously.
If no is voted, then we have to go back to rework either ourselves in a different model,
the whole program and understand why it was voted no, where were the key reasons that
actually were obstructing the idea of launching a new ambassador program to go live with the
DAO.
That will mean pushing probably by several weeks or months and giving no ability to advance
into that program.
It would be a shame, but we'll be respecting of course the opinion of the community and
rework it with them to make sure that the second time it will be proposed either by
us or eventually by anyone in the end could also propose their own ambassador's program
or their own version of it to be voted by the community.
I missed that the first time.
That's fascinating.
And anyone can propose their own ambassador program for the community.
Huh.
How about that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
So this is exactly the way I would have wanted this to go.
I missed that part when I was listening to this the first time.
Seb is saying that we'll rework it if no, the benefits will get delayed, which is fair
enough to be expected, and then anyone else can propose their own ambassador program if
they really want to.
I don't know enough about the ambassador program to really do that, but I suppose that opens
up some very, very interesting possibilities.
All right, let's keep going.
Only 10 minutes left.
We can do something here.
Thank you for that, Seb.
And it's now time to start wrapping up.
However, any questions that the audience might have, please do jump on over to the forum
where you can discuss this AMA, discuss the FIP, ask your questions, and we'll have someone
in there who will be able to try and help you understand anything that you may not have
understood.
But yes, I want to say a huge thank you to Silvorte for being here, who I believe is
just about to take off from the sky right now.
Amit, thank you for that.
As always, Sebastien, thank you for being here as well.
Thank you, everyone.
I hope that it provided enough clarity to help you make the informed decision.
Once again, we don't need to agree that the vote is necessary to reach a quorum.
The worst situation would be to not be able to advance on anything and hence not benefiting
to progress the sandbox and the ecosystem.
I don't know if we have a few minutes to allow a few questions or we'll move directly to
the forum.
I'm available.
I can stay on my side a few more minutes, definitely, if you want.
I'm happy to continue.
I am okay if we take maybe just one or two questions.
This is the part that after all of that, two-thirds of the way in, most of it was high level.
Some of it was specific, like the 800 applicants, 30 to 35 ambassadors, the DAO will not have
any part to play.
What else was key?
Let's highlight that part.
Let's highlight the parts that were extremely helpful or gave us new information about the
AMA.
All right.
So here, here's one part of it.
That one.
And anyone can propose their own.
Cyril said later that was good.
Look at this one.
A little bit about will there be pressure to post?
No.
The answer was no.
All right.
So Cyril said being able to share as SIPs going on.
Oh, that's Cyril said, this is not a job.
You're not in balance.
You choose.
You decide.
That's important.
All right.
What else?
Who manages it?
So it's going to remain in the hands of the DAO.
Excuse me, the sandbox team and specifically the community management team.
And of which Panda Pops and others are an existing member of that community management
team.
So they will be actually managing it.
Hence, maybe the reason why they chose her to do this AMA hosting.
So then in the future, the goals for ambassadors themselves to select people.
So echoing what Seb said.
Okay.
That Kelsey was head of marketing and was all my friends.
That was good to know.
For attracts, they already went over that one quite a bit in depth elsewhere.
How will the compensated be?
You don't know.
But the fact that there's going to be one, they already mentioned that in the Q&A before
now.
And ambassadors, not employees, they're contractors and kind of overlapping, but good.
All right, what else?
What else did we talk about?
Sandbox started in 2018.
And that was a good G whiz, but still that was good to know.
And we wanted to create a quantifiable way.
Creating something structured.
That was good to know.
Why now?
And the same stuff.
So some new things, some new things that were good to know.
All right, let's get to these tweet questions.
With the people asking limited to just one question each.
Oh, the reason why I brought that up was because this AMA was mostly questions that had already
been asked and answered on the forums.
It's kind of like a rehash AMA.
Then these are the new questions that have been asked since the AMA started.
So we've been going for 47 minutes in this Twitter space.
And with eight minutes left, they open it up for questions.
But person can only ask one question a piece.
So I meant, do you have some time to not?
I'm pretty literal when it comes to NMA is supposed to be about people asking you things.
And you answering them.
That's not exactly what happened here.
Hey, Seb, what's up?
To be able to stay on the tail end of of reacting to the AMA on SIP 11 that happened on Friday
for the Ambassador program.
Oh, yeah, of course.
And I don't know, Panda, if you want to read them off, I guess we have like the tweet format.
So I think we have a feed of maybe some people asking questions.
All right.
Let me for that.
I'm currently I have to connect on my mobile.
So the first question comes from I can kind of get started as well.
And as you do that, G is us.
You asked would love if we could share the code of conduct or notes from it.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Happy to publish in the forum and maybe in our medium, the Ambassador code of conduct
so that everyone has visibility into it and want to reinforce that it's not going to be
there to say to shape like a view or force any anything.
It's more so just a we want ambassadors to be productive, communicative and like active
participants in the community and be productive and constructive in the way that they communicate.
Let's see what else we have.
I've grabbed a question here.
So Daddy asks when are the results of the new set of ambassadors coming in?
They want to know because they applied.
Yeah.
Good question.
So as I mentioned, we've had over 800 probably well over that.
At this point, that number might even be a bit dated.
And the process is that our internal community team reviews the applications, tries to gauge
like the fit of the person as well as for the tracks that they indicated that they'd
be interested in.
And then we try to set up actual interviews with each and every candidate that's interested
that passes that initial on paper application test per se.
So to be honest, it is a really time intensive process because we think ambassadors are it's
important to get ambassadors who are going to be representatives right.
And so I can't frankly guarantee like here's the turnaround time that you're going to be
heard back from.
But just trust that your application will be reviewed.
And if you're deemed an immediate good fit for this initial batch, we're kind of thinking
about this program in a phased rollout.
So we're trying to get to the first set of ambassadors for each different track as well
as migrating some of our existing ambassadors into the program.
And then we're going to get to everyone else.
So trust that your application will be reviewed, that you will be reached out to if we're ready
to do interviews from a timeline perspective, like to be honest and not to kind of like
pre commit to something we can't keep.
I don't know how long it'll take, but the team.
So he doesn't know.
Answer the question is he doesn't know.
He is spending hours and hours every single week dedicated to reviewing the applicants.
Great answer.
I have found probably maybe this be sort of like the last one or second to last one.
This is by backspace.
So would it be better if some of the ambassadors can work and assessed by the country managers
in their country?
And it would be more relevant for the single centralized program manager.
They also said that they believe IRL meetings or events engaging with the community is important
to which I do agree with.
Can you answer any of those?
I can answer the first part and maybe let Seb answer the second.
So that's a really good question and a really good point.
It is an interesting question.
We actually we will be having ambassadors and you know, it's something I should have
raised prior.
The ambassador program as a whole is a single consolidated program.
But within it, we effectively have ambassadors who will be considered part of like the global
team and we will have ambassadors that are considered as part of a regional team of ambassadors.
And so in the different countries where we have strong local presences, whether that's
Korea, Japan, Thailand, Turkey, India, et cetera, we do have local country managers,
as you pointed out, and those regional teams will be responsible for managing those, quote
unquote, regional ambassadors who potentially have a localized audience, potentially speak
in the native tongue, have local initiatives, et cetera.
And so we absolutely will be making use of our regional teams and country managers to manage
ambassadors who are specific to a particular region.
So really good point.
I'm glad you asked it.
And that is the plan.
For the second part, maybe I'll let you weigh in here, Seb.
But I think the question was around it'd be amazing to have IRL events and meetups and
things like that for ambassadors in the different regions.
And I know that's something that you've both attended and supported.
So maybe you can speak to this.
Absolutely.
I think it's quite common in the web-free space that not all the events are always organized
only by the project themselves, but by just member of the community, ambassadors.
We've seen that typically with board ape, with buggy penguins, for example, they are
for communities, or they're all in Thailand or in Japan, with members elected by the community
that drive those very simple dinner, but really cool at the same time and very friendly.
And I love to support that even more at Sandbox.
I know people want to do it.
Sometimes they ask us for some sponsoring budget.
Most of the time we've granted that budget directly at Sandbox.
It was mostly a decision coming from the marketing team and myself.
And from now on, I think we should even hopefully give even more autonomy so they don't even
have to, they can do that naturally without having to wonder if yes, will I receive the
budget to achieve that.
One of the previous SIP was already going into that direction.
It had a majority of yes, but unfortunately didn't reach the quorum.
But that's what we wanted to do at those major conferences, which are token 2049 in Singapore
and the upcoming events in Thailand this year with DEFCON 7, the big Ethereum conference.
And I think it included all the global activation.
But probably if this gets voted on, we hope ambassadors could run them as well, directly
where they want at different scales as well.
It can be a simple dinner with 10, 20 members, a pizza and beer event with maybe 50 members
and some swag and t-shirts to educate creators.
You see that a lot on social media if you follow Sandbox with some communities and it
should go on and grow.
I think we are probably now up time.
Once again, anybody that does have any questions, they can bring them to the forum to discuss
the SIP over there and have any of your questions answered over there.
Don't forget to go visit the Sandbox DAO, go have a look at SIP 11, have a read of it.
Make sure to vote regardless of what you are voting, whether that's a yes or if you have
a question.
That's the end.
So I had a lot of mixed thoughts after I listened to this for the first time.
I didn't know whether or not I supported the SIP or didn't.
I'm still kind of in that.
Thank you.
Have a good rest of the day.
Have a good weekend and looking forward to see the results of your voting.
And remember, have a good morning, afternoon, evening, wherever you are in the metaverse.
We will see you next time.
I think I know I want to vote now.
I'm at the point where there's so much disagreement with the current ambassadors, but I don't
want to stand in the way of the improving of it.
I'm going to probably abstain so that I can commit to the quorum.
I'm not voting yes because there's too many ambassadors who don't appreciate this new
direction and there are ambassadors that I respect.
Too many voices that this SIP, this AMA didn't really answer the tough questions.
It didn't really engage at the level that I expected it to for an AMA.
It was more of like a public release statement.
And so there wasn't much back and forth, which would be expected for a Dow discussion.
And so that didn't convince me to vote yes.
I'm not going to vote no because I believe in the glass half full approach on this, that
if we approve, if the SIP gets approved, then they can iterate on its success and they can
do better.
They did say they want this to eventually be something where the Dow ambassadors are
responding to.
That was up somewhere up here.
That was their goal.
And SIP did say that anyone could propose a better one.
They really wanted to.
So that combined, I'm going to vote abstain.
I want to contribute to quorum, but I don't want to vote yes or no.
Maybe I'll vote half yes, half no.
At the very least, I'm going to nullify my vote.
I just want to make sure it counts.
So that's where I sit on it right now.
All right, let's flip back over.
And now we're back.
So back at it again.
We went through one, two, three, four, five, six slides of reaction comments.
That's a lot.
All right, let's, it's outro out.
So future episodes we have, we're done with their reaction down here.
Reaction AMA.
Next we have the rules of Dow money with Joseph coming up on, on Saturday.
Then Sunday we have an interview with crypto Diplo for what will become SIP 13 for NFT
crafting and drops.
Sandbox Spaces.
The sandbox spaces, steel discord, sandbox style forums, Twitter with hashtag sand fam,
sandbox style, the sandbox game.
Then on Mondays, which is today, mocha verse hall later tonight, pulls on the block on
Saturday, coffee with cats and Monday through Friday, well members with natively digital
on Tuesday and San Fam Cafe Monday.
Let's find someone to raid.
We will be all finished for today.
See is there anybody who is online?
I know Seb go was on earlier.
He's not on now.
And wizard assemble looks like the sandbox game.
Nope, it's just me.
I'm the only one online right now.
All right, let's look.
Oh, the sandbox game is online with art.
The panda pops and about is on.
So we're gonna raid Panda.
And let's do that.
So the sandbox game little little raid button.
Some reason it makes it a little bit more difficult now.
The sandbox game.
Okay, so Ray has been created.
Thank you all for your time.
My my ending thoughts are definitely that they came across as damage control more than
it did and a public release statement versus an ask me anything.
The prepared questions and the pre approved speakers made it to where it was a little
bit difficult to say that this was really like a back and forth discussion.
It did answer some new questions.
I would have really liked to have done the podcast with them that where we could ask
this of them.
But two more 2048 more hours, go vote, make your voice heard, please.
And let's raid.
See everybody.