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Alright, hello everyone.

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Podcast number 20.

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Sandow Podcast, which is a podcast all about the sandbox DAO.

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Today we're going to be doing a reaction to the Ask Me Anything done with the sandbox

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marketing team for SIP number 11.

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SIP number 11 is the ambassador program and they're looking to use 400,000 sand to increase

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compensation for ambassadors, increase the ambassador count and introduce new ambassador

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tracks to broaden the scope.

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If you're interested in seeing in depth about that, go to Sandow Podcast number 18, which

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is where I did an in depth review of SIP 11 and went through the whole proposal.

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This one isn't going to be an in depth review of it.

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It'll be very interesting Ask Me Anything done just a couple days ago where Twitter,

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the sandbox team came together and answered a lot of questions that were being had on

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the DAO forums.

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If you haven't been following that along, you can see it's gotten very colorful.

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So there's been a wide, wide disagreement even from current ambassadors.

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So there was a lot of discussion on this one and it was so interesting around it that got

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to the point where I wanted to do an Ask Me Anything on this one.

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So what's the scope of the talk?

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Today is another reaction piece.

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It's also an opinion piece.

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So I'm doing both.

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I'll be offering my own opinion just like I did Podcast 19 with Mia Bao and Seb.

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Disclaimer, I do not represent the sandbox game or the sandbox foundation, which is the

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DAO.

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I am not your financial or legal advisor and nothing I say is to be taken as financial

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or legal advice.

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So who am I?

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I'm Tim Lancer.

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I'm the podcast host.

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I'm also the president of MetaWorlds.

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We have published two experiences at this point.

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One was Floor Droppers for Builders Challenge 1 and then one was Lava Defense, which was

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a game maker on GMF 2023.

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And we are a team of business people, gamers, and we've moved from just publishing experiences

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now to the DAO.

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Because a lot of our specialties coincide very nicely with the DAO, which is business,

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people, community, and gaming.

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And I'm Lancer.

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I've been in the Sand Fam since December 2021, so about midway through season one, and I'm

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a landowner.

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I run around with my WoW avatar all the time and it looks like a Where's Waldo.

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And I'm yeah, keep going.

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Scoreboard.

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Yesterday this scoreboard, two SIPs did not pass Quorum.

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That was SIP 9 and 10, the NFT collection and the blockchain events.

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So that brings this SIP count to three not approved.

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And there's two open for voting, which right now open for voting.

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You can go vote.

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Don't use the proposal website because it doesn't work.

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It's just not showing things.

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Instead use Snapshot.

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You can I'll post both links in the chat.

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And use those.

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That will get you directly to snapshot link for both.

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They close in 48 hours.

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So need as much help as possible.

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SIP 10 and SIP 11.

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SIP 10 is the Ambassador Program.

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SIP 11 is excuse me, SIP 10 is the Sandbox Academy.

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And SIP 11 is the Ambassador Program.

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We're talking about right now.

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Right now though, it looks like a SIP 10.

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Excuse me, SIP, dang it, 11 and 12.

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My fault.

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SIP 12 and SIP 11.

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There we go.

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So, if you look at the current, the current stuff on this, SIP 11 has 91% yes, 6% no,

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quorum is only 19 million out of 30.

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So it's 62% quorum not there yet.

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And it's getting down to the wire.

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SIP 12 is even less, it has a 47% quorum, a clocking in about 54% yes.

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I did, if you're interested in the details of SIP 12, did a podcast interview with Mark

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Baggo back in.

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Podcast number 12.

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Wow, that was eight episodes ago.

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We've been turning and burning pretty hard.

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So that's where we are.

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And then there's one SIP that is the NFT Evolution SIP for NFT drops within the sandbox to your

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wallet.

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And that's by Crypto Diplo, which we will be having a podcast with later on.

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So please go vote.

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Please go vote.

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At least it'll make quorum.

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The most important thing.

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All right, checkbook.

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We're still at 13% because the last few SIPs did not make quorum.

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So 1.9 million sand spent out of 15.5 or 13% of the budget.

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Dowbase.ai updates.

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We're sitting at 1800 voters, 211,000 token holders, and sandbox is trading at 23 cents.

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One token is trading at 23 cents.

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Let's get into it.

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So we're going to transition now over to the actual AMA.

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So what's showing on screen now is what's showing on screen now is the tweet that went

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out for the AMA.

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And it went out on August 28, which means that on a Wednesday, they said that on a Friday,

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two days later, they would do an Ask Me Anything for SIP 11.

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And the interesting thing is that I had been asking to podcast with the, with the, with

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the makers, the authors of the SIP for pretty much almost as soon as they, as soon as they

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had requested and put it on the, on the ambassador forums.

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So they posted on, on August 7th is when Geraldine posted all of the SIP details.

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And on August 8th, so a day later, I read the SIP and then I asked them some questions.

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And then I say, hey, would you be willing to go on the podcast?

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So it was 25 days ago.

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And they had, as I went through the podcast with SIP 11, the responses were a little bit

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slow to come in, but they didn't really acknowledge my request to sit down and podcast.

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And so last Wednesday, they said they wanted to do an AMA on Twitter.

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So they did the AMA on Twitter.

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And I have mixed feelings about it.

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I haven't voted yet.

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And I was going to vote before the 24 hours are up, but I've been on the fence.

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There's been so much disagreement about this, even from current ambassadors, it's given

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me pause to go all in on the yes.

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And so I've had to really weigh values and, and different perspectives one way or the

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other on this because of how much disagreement there is on the yeses and the nos.

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But if you look at the SIP itself and snapshot, you'll see that it has a huge number of yeses,

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But if you look down in the cast your vote, the actual vote explanations here, a lot of

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the yeses.

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Alright, so let's look at a few of them.

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So here's, here's one of the abstains, too much conflict between existing ambassadors

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and plans to pay new ambassadors.

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That is where I sit right now.

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There's too much conflict between the existing ambassadors and the plans presented by the

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sandbox team.

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It seems like there's a big disconnect.

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Big, big disconnect.

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So Lotus said yes, anything to breathe life into this corpse.

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Why did I fall for an Animoca product again?

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I don't know what they mean by that.

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Animoca has invested in over 450 companies at this point and sandbox is by no means a

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failure.

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So not sure.

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But a lot of yeses, a lot of yeses.

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Where did I read all the yeses?

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There were a bunch of explanations that were really interesting.

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Here's a yes.

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Good idea.

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Alright, so here, that was one yes.

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Here's another yes.

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Yes, but legacy ambassadors need to be grandfathered in and compensated.

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So a lot of people are voting yes, it seemed like, because they believe that the ambassadors

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are crucial to support the advancement of the sandbox, like in this case.

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But there doesn't really seem to be quite an awareness that there is such opposition

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to it.

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It seems like a lot of voting is going on.

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A lot of yes voting is happening.

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Because when you read it, you're like, absolutely, I should support the ambassadors.

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They're a crucial part.

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And so that's a lot of the yeses.

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I mean, you'll see Candley Christen vote no, as she has pledged to do until a community

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member.

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This one was voted no.

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Why isn't the sandbox funding this?

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That was a good question.

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Not fully answered by the AMA, but we'll get into that.

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We need more people talking about sandbox around the world.

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Yeses.

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So it seemed like people didn't realize, haven't realized that there is a lot of widespread

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disagreement, and they just take the SIP at face value to say it is a sandbox ambassador

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program.

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Ambassador is good.

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Yes, therefore I should I should vote yes.

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So that's an interesting disconnect between the SanFam community talking about the SIP

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and then the SanFam community voting on the SIP.

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Very very interesting development going on there.

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Okay.

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So then let's get into the actual AMA.

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So the AMA happened, it was about an hour long, and some people showed up that I weren't

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expecting.

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I didn't know who was going to host it and turned out to be Panda.

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Panda ended up hosting this, which wasn't a bad choice at all.

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However, Panda has not been involved in the sandbox DAO pretty much at all.

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So her introduction as a moderator was already a interesting choice, unexpected.

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The AMA before it even started, before it even started, it seemed like damage control,

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because most of the SIP authors have accepted my podcast interview request, and we went

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over it in detail and depth.

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But this time they didn't.

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And it seemed like the reason they didn't was because of just how much disagreement

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there was.

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And in the sandbox forums, or the DAO forums, excuse me, look at how many responses there

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were 61 replies in this one, which is a lot more than usual.

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And so much of it seemed to be negative or critical.

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Even my questions, I had to ask questions that were trying to understand a little bit

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better, but they they weren't able to answer everything I think, up until today.

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So yeah, it's kind of to the it starts at six minutes.

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And so the people who attended was the sandbox DAO administrator, Cyril, the co founder,

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Seb, the chief marketing officer, Amit Kumar, and then some people that he works with in

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the marketing team, Kelsey, who was revealed to be all my friends.

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All right, let's get into it.

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And then we'll we'll stop and respond.

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As well, we will be co host today and we'll also bring marketing team and of course, give

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a chance to our community to exchange on a very important topic, one that I think has

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a lot of potential to grow the sandbox and bring a lot of new users.

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And we've seen a lot of engagement and conversation around which is this SIP 11 to fund an ambassador

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program.

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So take the time to answer your question and see where which direction we want to give

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to the program, how we can help making it even better and how to get started and also

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progress and improve it as we progress.

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So thank you everyone for joining.

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Do we have our host for today?

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Yeah, I have finally been able to join Seb.

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Well, an amazing introduction.

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You have saved me needing to introduce you guys.

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So thank you so much.

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I'll still do another quick intro for everyone.

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So welcome on in.

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I am your host today, Panda Pops, for those that don't know me.

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And we'll be discussing SIP 11 for the ambassadors program.

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We have of course, the amazing Sebastian Bourget, the CEO and co founder to the sandbox game.

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A big welcome to Cyril Forte, the head of the sandbox DAO.

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And we also have Amit, our chief marketing officer here from the sandbox.

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So Amit is someone who we haven't interacted with.

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And wasn't as far as I was aware, didn't introduce himself during the sandbox DAO forum public

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comment period.

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So we weren't really familiar with Amit.

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And so to hear Amit speak a lot was it I think it fed into the narrative, the existing suspicion

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and mistrust that the narrative was the sandbox team just pushes this onto the DAO and says

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go vote for it.

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And then when the sandbox DAO, when the DAO community pushed back, they ran this and wanted

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to explain a little bit more what they were doing.

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Whereas before I don't think they expected this level of criticism from from San Fam.

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So Seb intros, hands, host, and C to Panda Pops.

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So unless any of you guys wanted to say a quick hello to the community listening right

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now, we can jump in straight away with the first question.

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Of course, a quick hello to everyone.

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The IP to see like the amount of conversation and engagement that the SIP generates.

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For us, we like to see everything and always from a positive angle.

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Like the DAO is like the...

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I'm not sure if he mentioned that because of how much negativity there was.

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But yeah, there was a lot of criticism.

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So I think this was an attempt to turn things into a positive way, which I fully...

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Hey, Sergi, I fully support that.

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And I think that's a smart way to go.

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It's a way for the sandbox community to express their opinion, to decide how the sandbox should

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evolve.

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So it's quite natural and even better, it's expected that those conversations happen.

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So you can vote in an informed way and you can influence the sandbox to evolve in a way

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that you think will benefit the best to its growth, its future development, its roadmap,

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its ecosystem, and driving the value of the different assets that we own, the sand, the

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land, and so on.

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So I wanted to first thank everyone for being here, giving us their time and like that huge

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interest on the SIP 11.

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Maybe before we jump, maybe you want a quick highlight.

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What's SIP 11?

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What's the...

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It shows Amit speaking but really it's Seb speaking.

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What it proposed to change versus what we have already in place so far, what we've done

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in a very centralized manner until now and how we plan to decentralize it.

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Yes, so that pretty much is the start for our very first question, which is, so what

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is the Ambassador Program?

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This is what we asked...

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Amit, if you're talking, I don't think people can hear you right now.

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Yep, we don't hear you, Amit.

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All right, so I'll step in, I guess, like in the meantime while Amit is working on this

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audio connection issue and we'll reconnect.

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So the SIP 11 is talking about like an Ambassador Program.

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We've had already in place the first version, the first iteration of an Ambassador Program

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as we've grown Sandbox over the year.

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As you know, Sandbox started around 2018 as a blockchain platform.

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It has evolved a lot over time and originally those ambassadors had certain mission that

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also matched with what we were looking for, what we were expecting back then for the first

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step of Sandbox when the community was much smaller and also based on how people were

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engaging the most, which is certain channels of communication such as Discord or Telegram,

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for example.

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So ambassadors indeed by then turned out to creating conversation on those channels, engaging

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the user whenever they were not necessarily using the product or in the game itself, answering

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the question, producing tutorial, producing material that helps also educate that community,

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promote the product, promote the different assets that are part of the Sandbox ecosystem

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like the LAN, like VoxEdit, like GameMaker, like the SandToken as well as the avatars.

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It really took different shapes and I think it's been working well.

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I want to also recognize the importance of the work of the existing ambassadors that

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we've had in the community.

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Everyone played an important role and it's always important to recognize that.

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And we thought it's a time as Sandbox evolved and decentralized and needs to keep growing

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and evolving like a child mature and turns into a teenager and an adult to look at how

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we drive even more decentralization in ambassadors.

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How we, as we travel around the world, as we meet so many communities in India, in Turkey,

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right now I'm in Korea, but I just came back from Japan or in Hong Kong.

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That picture of his with the samurai sword on the back of his jacket is awesome.

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And allow people who are passionate about Sandbox to become ambassadors and give them

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a chance to attract even more users from their region of the world with a different approach.

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Because there's not a single recipe or model of how to attract people to Sandbox.

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Some people can be interested by art, some by fashion, some by gaming, some by music.

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It's also very multicultural.

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And that needs to be structured in a way that we enable the possibility to drive the development

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and the growth of the platform.

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Still, I think a way to calculate a form of performance, not just based on like soft facts,

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not just based on like, yes, everyone is contributing and we are all growing, but having to be able

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to measure which ambassador maybe drives more users of a certain type of audience than another,

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compare their impact and create.

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And it is an attempt that we proposed.

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I don't mean it's perfect, but we worked several weeks to try to create a quantifiable way

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to measure the actions of those ambassadors.

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And of course, it's not just counting the number of messages you are posting on Discord.

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We've been creating something pretty structured that tried to cover largely the scope of action

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that we've seen in the past.

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And it's not set entirely in stone.

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It will be flexible and evolve as well.

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And we could also count other metrics and KPI that reflects how good ambassadors are

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in their mission and their work.

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Okay, so that was Seth explaining the history of the Ambassador Program, how it started

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many years ago and its first iteration was to create conversation and engage the SanFam

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and the communication channels and engage them in the product itself or the game and

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reducing the need for a tutorial.

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All right, so that makes sense.

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The Ambassador Program has been around for a long time.

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The ambassadors helped me onboard into the sandbox and Discord and in-game.

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In many cases, they would be in-game answering questions during the seasons.

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Like, what is this?

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What do you do?

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How do you do it?

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They would also host in-game tournaments where you could parkour across the platforms that

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usually were raised levitating above the ground floor.

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And if you got there first, you won a prize, that sort of thing.

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So my introduction to the Ambassador Program was through the ambassadors like Candley Christen

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and Uncle Grumpy and many others.

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So they helped bring my attention and passion into the sandbox through them.

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And they helped facilitate that and it was great.

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And I still speak to Chris and Uncle Grumpy even now in Discord.

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And so they are an essential part of sandbox.

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This SIP is to increase their compensation.

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So you would think no brainer.

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But the devil's in the details on this one.

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And the reason why it's created so much debate, disagreement, is because some of those details

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the current ambassadors disagree with and don't believe should be implemented.

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Roxy Miguel in chat asked, do you think this proposal was ready to be a SIP?

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I think it was.

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But I don't think that the All My Friends team was prepared to react to and answer the

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questions of the community and the disagreements that came about.

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They didn't respond fast enough.

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And so all this momentum started building outside of their control.

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I mean, these discussions were being had on Twitter and being had on the DAL discussion

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channel within Sandbox Discord.

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These were open conversations.

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And if you had seen them, you would have known.

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You would have known that this was coming.

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So I don't know if they missed it or if they decided that they wanted to see it play out

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and let the community hash it out before they stepped in with an AMA like this.

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But I think it was ready.

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I just don't think I think it was ready to be submitted.

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I don't think it was ready to be discussed.

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And I think if All My Friends, if more had helped out Kelsey, then this might have been

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a little bit less of an issue than it was.

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But they went entire weeks without responding back to questions.

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And so all of this built during the two-week public comment period where there was no answers

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except for the DAL members to just go back and forth off each other.

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And that was not good because a number of those DAL members, some of them were ambassadors.

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So it seemed like the sandbox really, really...

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It painted the sandbox as being completely out of touch with their ambassadors.

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And I think this AMA was an attempt to bring it back.

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But as you'll see, and just the first question here, Seb is really just talking about the

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history of the Ambassador Program.

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And at the very end, he mentioned how this was an attempt, this SIP is an attempt to

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create a quantifiable way to measure the actions of the ambassadors and to create a structured

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approach, which is a great thing to do.

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No problem with that at all.

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But there's so much disagreement being had in the forums, so much unacknowledged questions.

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And so this SIP, I think, is to bring some answers to that.

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And we'll keep on going.

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Rocky said also in the chat that he believed that more consideration should have been given

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to the process when it was still a proposal instead of fulfilling an agenda and turning

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them into SIPs.

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That was one of the things that came across.

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I don't think the sandbox team meant to do it like this.

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But the kind of one way communication happening right now where the only approved speakers

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are Seb, Amit, Panda, and Cyril.

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They pre approved speakers made it seem like they're just projecting a narrative projecting

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an agenda like here, this is what our answer is.

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Rather than engaging in a back and forth discussion, which is really needed in either my Sandow

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podcast format, where I take questions from the community and we integrate the chat into

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our discussions in real time, or on the forums where a lot of questions and you just need

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to confront it head on and address the considerations because these people, you can't just turn

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away from them.

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They're going to vote for you or against you.

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And the only thing that saved them in this right now is that so many voters saw Ambassador

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program didn't realize in their voting yes, that so much so many ambassadors were opposed

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to this.

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Some of them noted it.

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And then they voted no.

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And you saw that in the description, like, there shouldn't be so much disagreement from

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the current ambassadors and voting no because of it.

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That happened.

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So that's the only thing that saved them.

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Even being the sandbox team on this one is if it makes quorum, it's likely to get yes

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voted because of how many people voted yes when they saw Ambassador program and didn't

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realize that it's green behind it.

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And Rocky Miguel said I say this taking into account that I was not present in the Dow

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ecosystem until sips 1112 or put to a vote.

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That's okay.

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Miguel, I think you I think you understood it from the beginning.

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Why there was disagreement going on.

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And even the question that you just asked in the in the sip forum there toward the end.

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And it kind of removed you said it removed your doubt there.

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Where Panda had answered you, you asked what does asset mean and Panda said it's generally

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a marketing term.

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And Panda has been around for a long time in the sandbox community.

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But she's been streaming from a box at a game maker side.

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She's been streaming from jumping into your in game experiences.

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She has not been very involved in the Dow.

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So what I saw what the message I took from her being handed the co host was they wanted

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a safe way to respond to the widespread disagreement and that they declined to to go into my sand

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Dow podcast here as an interview because they were unsure of they want to go well they weren't

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sure of the uncertainty.

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They maybe maybe they thought I would ask too hard of a question or whatever the case

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may be.

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But they want a little bit more of a they wanted that they wanted to be sure that that

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would go well.

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And so an AMA with only approved speakers would give them that that security and that

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control they were after.

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Miguel says in chat how prepared a proposal should be in your opinion just wondering if

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I ever plan to make a proposal and take it to the set.

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Well tech check out sand out podcast two and three I think it was where I delve into the

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sit process with Pepe from Magic palette whose whose proposal did end up passing the first

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community set proposed that passed and then also Keral who did creators first sip ended

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withdrawing it when the council issued a negative recommendation on his proposal so it didn't

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go to vote or public comment.

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And I went I delved into the depths of the sandbox now sip template that is provided

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and and I can link that to you Miguel but and I we go into depth into how how prepared

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things should be but you generally want to hit on explaining the rationale behind why

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you think this sip is needed explain the rationale behind how you think the Dow is going to benefit

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from it explain and list out your your expenses.

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So a lot of these sips only lists like big dollar figures like we want 400,000 want 200,000

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50,000 whatever my sip is the sand out podcast I have four of them but one of them the closest

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one to vote is that and the most recent comments from the sandbox dial team the past week or

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two is they want to see itemized lists like how much am I paying the video editor how

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much am I paying the podcast engineer how much am I paying the scheduler they want that

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to go down to that degree so that's one of the reason reasons why hasn't gone to vote

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yet because they've been asking me to continue provide more in depth costs.

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So I'm waiting for them to respond to that in order to push it to public comment and

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then to the doubt for vote so it needs to be detailed enough to where people can read

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it know why you're asking them to vote yes and then high and high level enough to where

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well you can go as depth in depth as you want keeping to the 10,000 character limit but

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you want you want there to be explanation to answer the question is why should they

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vote yes.

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Yeah yeah well they the rocky says in the chat how the Dow will benefit with a question

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mark our brain still thinking about how the sandbox will benefit that is something that

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the AMA here tries to answer they one of the ways they trying to answer the question is

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why are they asking the Dow for the money they answer that in the forums but it was

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it was kind of a it was just a we think our values are aligned sort of thing they don't

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really go into too much depth so there's still that kind of hanging question in the forums

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that Kelsey from all my friends I believe it was her but but Kelsey all my friends answers

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later on in the forums about 20 hours ago.

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Alright so let's keep going yeah those are all absolutely amazing points I'm just gonna

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double check if a minute did you do you happen to speak now.

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No we cannot hear a minute I am ever so sorry.

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Is that better.

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Yes, yes I can hear you.

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Amazing.

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I hope you heard us.

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So sorry everyone for that.

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I wanted to quickly just echo first what Seb said at the beginning which is the core purpose

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of the premise behind the Ambassador program and expanding it was that we felt there was

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a growing number of just hyper engaged community members that we wanted to give the ability

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to participate to and just the feedback on the forum on socials whether it's good or

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bad I think goes to show like we're very grateful and we don't take for granted how engaged

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the community has been with this SIP and that is really the purpose and so I think that's

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important to note.

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I'll break down like very simply like what the Ambassador program is into kind of like

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two core premises.

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We recognize that we have a growing community we want to engage them we want to benefit

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from their passion and expertise and the program is really there to organize our most passionate

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community members and number one enable them to support and contribute to the sandbox and

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number two reward them for that time investment and so we're going to get more into the details.

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00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,560
So that's a great thing.

466
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:52,380
That's a great thing to better reward the ambassadors who are so important to onboarding

467
00:36:52,380 --> 00:36:53,440
new members.

468
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,520
That's a great thing.

469
00:36:54,520 --> 00:37:00,240
So you have to be asking yourself at this point why is the community so opposed to it?

470
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,680
They haven't addressed that yet.

471
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:10,680
They have Amit very very briefly touched on you know that he's happy for the responses

472
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:17,040
good or bad and so that was kind of a way to spend it as let's move forward in a constructive

473
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,640
way.

474
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:37,800
So

475
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,600
so let's keep going of how the program is structured in the different tracks but that's

476
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,360
really the core premise underneath it.

477
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:50,220
It's enable our engaged community members to support the sandbox and then ensure that

478
00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:53,280
they have a way to be rewarded for doing so.

479
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,280
Cool.

480
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,680
Absolutely excellent.

481
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,080
At this point we are about a third of the way through this AMA and so far it's been

482
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:06,960
very high level very high level hasn't really addressed much of the questions.

483
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:15,200
So at this point when I'm thinking are we going to are we going to get to the actual

484
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:21,840
part of addressing why there's so much disagreement.

485
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:30,800
A third of the way in and most of it has been high level stuff to me is an eyebrow razor.

486
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,440
They're playing it too safe in my opinion.

487
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,920
They're playing it way too safe.

488
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:42,080
They're trying to spin this as a positive thing when the reason why they're doing this

489
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:47,040
AMA is because of all of the constructive criticism that has been levied at them so

490
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,040
far.

491
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,520
Answers to those from both of you guys.

492
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:58,600
Let's move on to the next question which is why did the sandbox decide to expand the program

493
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,600
now?

494
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:06,040
Why didn't we do it before?

495
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,080
Like I go back to my.

496
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,420
That's a great great answer.

497
00:39:11,420 --> 00:39:13,360
That's a great answer.

498
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,120
Why didn't we do before?

499
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:21,960
But again in the context of why you're doing this AMA that's not really the question that

500
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,080
that is being asked.

501
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,120
There are a lot of other questions being asked like what is the distribution look like?

502
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:36,220
Do I have to do what you compel me to do because it creates a kind of like contractor freelancer

503
00:39:36,220 --> 00:39:41,280
relationship with the NDA and in the contract being signed.

504
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:47,400
So there's certain things that you can't talk about and some of the initial responses by

505
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,640
all my friends.

506
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,800
There are some things you must talk about.

507
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:59,160
So that kind of introduces this this whole question of I'm not really an employee but

508
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,120
I'm being treated like one.

509
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:07,620
And so there's a lot a lot of questions and criticisms being levied at.

510
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:09,880
Why is that happening?

511
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,560
What's the necessity for it?

512
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,560
And the other lingering question was why should the Dow be the one paying for this and not

513
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:23,400
as part of the operating expense or the sandbox game and company?

514
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,400
Let's keep going.

515
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:30,440
It was question like what I was referring before like we've been traveling the world.

516
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,000
We've seen through the like many events.

517
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:42,040
Just the sandbox partner day, the sandbox creator days, the different landowners dinner

518
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:47,200
or sand holder different activity or NFT holder activities.

519
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,920
We've met people who are very passionate, people who just by themselves even if there

520
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,040
was not an ambassador program fully in place they were starting by themselves to speak

521
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:04,880
about sandbox around them to create content to attend our events to really like go beyond

522
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,240
just like following on social media.

523
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:13,120
Like the highest level of engagement and beyond.

524
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,600
And so I've been pushing for quite a long time.

525
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,840
It's like okay how do we create the ambassador program 2022 and then we have it in 2023 and

526
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,920
again in 2024.

527
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,680
So last June, sorry last May we introduced the Dow.

528
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:33,840
The core purpose of the Dow is to give the voice and allow the community to vote by themselves

529
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,840
of on the thing that like they want to do.

530
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:45,480
The priorities that they want us to associate and so we wanted to enable the community to

531
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:51,520
choose like the amount of budget and even going further not just choose the amount of

532
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:57,160
budget but ideally to vote on those ambassadors practice.

533
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:06,120
Okay so here in lies the here in lies where things start to turn a little bit.

534
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,360
Put it put it gently.

535
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,600
Seb just said we want the community to choose the ambassadors and their payment used to

536
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,400
turn budget.

537
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,920
And neither of that's happening with this sip.

538
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,720
So far so far.

539
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:32,240
So this sip introduced a budget of $400,000.

540
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:35,600
And I roll up here.

541
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,600
Right.

542
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,360
Actually, let's go to the actual snapshot.

543
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,880
So your snapshot.

544
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,160
View more.

545
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:48,320
Go down into the.

546
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,320
Where is it?

547
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,320
Where is it?

548
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,320
Benefits there budget.

549
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,880
Budget requested is $400,000.

550
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,320
Okay.

551
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,960
$400,000.

552
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:09,800
And kind of one more from that is they're about to answer the question of will the Dow

553
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,360
have any say in this?

554
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,360
Right.

555
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:17,760
So this is what Seb is saying now at 17 minutes in he wants the community to choose the ambassadors

556
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,080
and their budget.

557
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:25,500
So the sip introduced to the Dow it wants to pay them $400,000.

558
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:30,360
And then in the question and answer that I went through in podcast I think 18 or 17 where

559
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:39,600
we went into that Q&A section of the forums explained how the control of this program

560
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,480
is going to remain in the hands of the sandbox game.

561
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,920
Sandbox company.

562
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,000
So right now it looks like the community is getting neither.

563
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,600
It's not being able it's not able to assess a budget.

564
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,000
Technically you can say it is because it's going to vote yes.

565
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,720
I guess technically but that's a technicality big time.

566
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:10,440
There was no discussion on the Dow with the Dow members of 400,000 except through the

567
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,740
forums.

568
00:44:11,740 --> 00:44:17,360
So maybe that's how they're going to say that that's how that was community led.

569
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,700
But it the whole sip was written by the sandbox team.

570
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:24,320
And as we found out the sandbox marketing team.

571
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:30,100
And then we we don't seem to be able to at least so far all indications that the sandbox

572
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:35,840
Dow community, SanFam will not be able to choose its ambassadors.

573
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,980
It's going to be chosen by central committee within the sandbox team.

574
00:44:40,980 --> 00:44:46,920
So they are not just named by sandbox team alone but they.

575
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,480
Oh I pause it too early.

576
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:57,200
So he just finished his sentence that it won't just be chosen by the sandbox team alone.

577
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,200
Which is.

578
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,080
Yeah.

579
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:09,200
You know what that's going to be a question I'm going to ask.

580
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,880
So when Seb said this.

581
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:20,240
How does question how does this.

582
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:21,560
Integrate now what's the word.

583
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:30,640
How does this.

584
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,960
Lancer question.

585
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:39,480
How does budget and not just chosen by the sandbox team.

586
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,080
There we go.

587
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:47,160
So that's the statement.

588
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,200
Not just chosen and the sandbox team.

589
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,840
So then what's the question.

590
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,440
How does this.

591
00:45:54,440 --> 00:46:01,280
Statement of intent.

592
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:06,200
Work with a meets.

593
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:16,120
Answer with actually all my friends.

594
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,200
Form response.

595
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,560
And a meet.

596
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,560
And what's the word.

597
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,560
He isn't reassure.

598
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,560
He confirms that.

599
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:35,800
The.

600
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:41,920
That control of the program will remain with sandbox.

601
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,480
That's the question.

602
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,080
Let's keep going.

603
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:55,200
They could become really the ambassador chosen by the community for the community.

604
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:01,720
So that would be for me like the ultimate iteration of what the program will propose.

605
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:05,600
And we've worked through that with the team with.

606
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,600
The feedback of all the team of course.

607
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:14,680
The one that's been the closest to the community for so many years to structure something that

608
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,040
give a start to that vision.

609
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:25,720
If I can compliment onto that server hi everybody yeah the goal.

610
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:31,480
So this is the first time Cyril is speaking.

611
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,720
And he's not been too involved with the sip itself I don't think.

612
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:41,280
So let's listen to hear what I have to say.

613
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:46,080
Is really we are on the path of progressive decentralization so you will see more and

614
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,200
more since that are more and more inclusive to the community and allow people to take

615
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,760
more active participation.

616
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,760
But this is very the first step right.

617
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,560
So in the seat that has been presented today is more about validate validating the program

618
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,560
as a whole.

619
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,720
But like you said said with this path to progressive decentralization will study carefully how

620
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:08,480
to open up more and more decision making decision power to the community going forward because

621
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,360
I believe that's the that's the trajectory.

622
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:18,000
That's the ultimate north star.

623
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:24,960
So Cyril just said that this this is the first step.

624
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:34,320
Toward progressive centralization which has been a phrase that they have used since May.

625
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:47,880
And we learned in podcast number which one was Mia podcast number 14 was she's been using

626
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:52,800
that term for a number of years and her videos.

627
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,460
So I think that's where the term came from.

628
00:48:54,460 --> 00:48:59,040
But it basically means that it starts out with a centralized vision and controlling

629
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,960
committee and then over time more authority and decision making powers giving to the community

630
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,520
to the masses.

631
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:14,360
And they're doing that in a way that is that they're comfortable with that they believe

632
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,280
the community can respond well to and handle responsibly.

633
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:24,240
Which I fully I think that's that's probably a smart move.

634
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:28,600
It's just the rate at which this progressive decentralization is happening.

635
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:40,960
It's it's creating a lot of of growing pains a lot of as you can see this hip a lot of

636
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:48,200
disagreement.

637
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,360
I'm not sure if you're trying to speak again I see your mics turned off but I can't hear

638
00:49:52,360 --> 00:50:07,920
any sound coming out from you.

639
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,920
Any luck.

640
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,920
Yes.

641
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:10,920
No.

642
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,920
Yes.

643
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,920
There he is.

644
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,920
Perfect.

645
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,920
Sorry guys.

646
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,640
I don't know what's going on here.

647
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:23,160
But just to follow up on the point of why now I would say historically it's important to

648
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,960
note that the ambassador program has been solely and largely centered around community

649
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,520
management.

650
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,880
So being active in discord and answering community questions like supporting them engaging with

651
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,520
them.

652
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:42,400
And as said said over the past several years in the past year especially we've seen that

653
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,760
the community wants to take on more types of roles and find more ways to contribute.

654
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,240
And many of you guys are doing so of your own volition supporting us on social supporting

655
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:54,320
us like this podcast creating your own.

656
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:59,480
And we wanted to find we saw the opportunity with that to expand the ambassador program

657
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,160
in the types of roles it actually supports.

658
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,960
And I think we're about to get into that with the next question with with Panda.

659
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,680
But that was really the goal.

660
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,540
It was we saw an opportunity to expand the ways that ambassadors can contribute to and

661
00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:16,280
help grow the sandbox and it was an opportune moment with the Dow to be able to try to empower

662
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,280
and make that actually happen.

663
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,280
Excellent.

664
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,280
Thank you.

665
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,960
So as you said the next question will sort of explain a little bit more.

666
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:25,960
Okay.

667
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:31,920
So we're almost halfway and let's let's go back and listen a little bit but it's still

668
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:38,800
very high level hasn't really gotten to the point where

669
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,680
they've answered the questions.

670
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,960
So this is turning to be this is so far halfway through turned more into a kind of like a

671
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,880
press release than than anything.

672
00:51:52,880 --> 00:52:04,160
So very marketing which being chief marketing officer that's that's exactly his job.

673
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:10,480
So I don't I don't fault that at all.

674
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,880
Let's just keep with the relaunch.

675
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:23,640
So we need to slide.

676
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,020
So we're good on that one.

677
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:38,640
Those questions.

678
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:43,880
The sandbox has created four different ambassador tracks for those that might not understand

679
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:56,080
what those tracks are can you explain what each of them are.

680
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:01,720
And as we may have lost them again we do have a potential backup speaker.

681
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:14,360
I'm going to introduce so we do have Kelsey Dolby our head of marketing some of you may

682
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,920
have already met them online and all my friends.

683
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:24,080
So that's where it was revealed that Kelsey Dolby was part of she's head of marketing

684
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:31,040
and she has been the voice behind all my friends or at least one of them.

685
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,200
That seems like the voice.

686
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:46,000
So if I can't speak we luckily Kelsey is here to answer some of these questions.

687
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,000
So this is good.

688
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,480
This is a great opportunity for Kelsey.

689
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:54,640
We've been all my friends she's mostly been the one in the sandbox forums.

690
00:53:54,640 --> 00:54:02,040
You know right here that's Candley Kristen that's me.

691
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:09,240
Where's the one there it is so generally been the one responding to everyone in the forums

692
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:13,240
and when she did respond responded great.

693
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:15,480
I loved the answers.

694
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:24,120
It was really helping to clarify some of the things that were happening.

695
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:33,280
But but okay so but let's hear it because Kelsey should have her finger on the pulse

696
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,280
right.

697
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,280
She should know what's happening.

698
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:53,280
I don't know if you guys can hear me I'm kind of swap.

699
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,760
I don't know what's going on guys every time I mute maybe I just don't mute from now on

700
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:03,200
every time I mute it seems like it changes my settings somehow really quickly on the

701
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,480
ambassador tracks and if we continue to have this we'll just have Kelsey step in so sorry

702
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:13,600
again so yeah we have four different tracks it goes to okay so Kelsey's not speaking right

703
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:21,080
now back to Amit who is now explaining the ambassador tracks.

704
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:27,240
I really hope she speaks because this is an opportunity for Kelsey to weigh in on what

705
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:33,600
she's been seeing on the forums and in if she's been monitoring discord the Dow discussion

706
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:39,600
and if she's been monitoring Twitter the Twitter threads that are public.

707
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,520
The prior point I made around expanding the types of roles ambassadors can can fulfill

708
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,840
for the sandbox.

709
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,620
The first one is community manager so that is the core role that the initial program

710
00:55:49,620 --> 00:55:54,840
is built upon the goal of it is to interact with the community on the sandbox social and

711
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:59,200
community channels so not just on discord which has been the primary way in the past

712
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:04,200
that ambassadors have engaged with the community but also even on Twitter and on Facebook and

713
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:09,800
Instagram and Telegram and in different channels to where when we have community members that

714
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,120
ask questions and engage we want to have people present there that are knowledgeable about

715
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:19,760
the sandbox to be responsive to that so that's the core community manager role.

716
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,240
Content creator is the next track that one is one where it was inspired by the community

717
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:25,240
itself.

718
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:31,040
We've seen so many instances on socials on YouTube on Twitter on Instagram of the community

719
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,800
creating amazing content that frankly our own internal marketing team is really jealous

720
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,240
of and we were like oh wow we wish we could have content like that and thought to create

721
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:40,240
these things.

722
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:44,680
That was very nice of him to say.

723
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,320
Like that's cool that's real that seems very real.

724
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:56,880
You're saying and it's flattering so props props for saying that I mean.

725
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:02,280
Your guys's creativity along with expertise on the platform is obviously unsurpassed and

726
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,440
so we wanted to create an ambassador track.

727
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,640
You can definitely tell though head of marketing a chief marketing officer excuse me.

728
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:17,200
It's very flattering very.

729
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:22,600
Self depreciating so in a way to raise up the community makes sense as a as a marketing

730
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,340
team.

731
00:57:25,340 --> 00:57:30,040
To be able to allow community members who have the ability and the desire to create

732
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:35,480
content about the sandbox to be supported in doing so and so the content creators are

733
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,960
going to be tasked with making content for the sandbox to publish on our own channels

734
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:41,960
and so they.

735
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,200
Oh like cyber dragon.

736
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,840
I missed that part.

737
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:54,400
Will be creating content for publishing on TSB channels.

738
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:59,520
That's an important point so Sandow podcast would not be able to exist within that role.

739
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:06,120
As I publish on my own channels and publishing the Sandow podcast on the sandbox channels

740
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,120
doesn't doesn't work.

741
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:14,680
This is a Dow funded if the sip goes through and we're funded it'll be a Dow supported

742
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,440
effort not a sandbox it's not it's not a sandbox.

743
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,200
But cast.

744
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,520
The idea is that.

745
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,280
You guys will come up with ideas for content whether it's on the creator ecosystem around

746
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,280
the game maker the player side with game client showing off playing your favorite experiences

747
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,880
creating assets and box edit whatever it is and then our team will be able to take that

748
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:43,840
content and post it on our socials for to give it a bigger platform.

749
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:50,600
Next we have the KOL track key opinion leader track and this one is similar to content creator

750
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:55,520
but there's an important distinction which is it's still around the ambassador creating

751
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:00,880
content but this is for the ambassador to be posting on their own channels.

752
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:07,240
The idea is that KOL have built up followings of varying sizes of course some of them might

753
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,420
be video games and that might be fashion and that might be web 3 but in different verticals

754
00:59:11,420 --> 00:59:14,280
and different niches and of different sizes.

755
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:19,360
We have so many KOL that are a part of the sandbox and so this is going to be a track

756
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:24,520
that enables our ambassadors to create content and publish it to their own community.

757
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:25,520
Hey Chikking.

758
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:26,520
Hey Chinga.

759
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,520
Hey DeRuth.

760
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,520
What's up?

761
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:34,640
So this is this would be the one that Sandow podcast would be in.

762
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:41,560
It would be under the key opinion leader something that I published to our own channel and yeah

763
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:47,160
and I did submit for the ambassador program I'm still not sure I'm still on the fence

764
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:53,680
about it still on the fence we're halfway through and they're they're explaining the

765
00:59:53,680 --> 01:00:00,480
ambassador tracks which they've already done in the medium article and on the forum post.

766
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:06,400
So at this point I'm kind of kind of in a kind of in a weird state I'm like this isn't

767
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:15,360
really an AMA because these questions have already been asked and answered so I'm really

768
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:20,800
hoping that they get to answering the tough questions that have been asked of them and

769
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:26,080
not let it go by.

770
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,080
That's my hope.

771
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:32,120
And be rewarded for doing so and lastly we have IGL those of you that are gamers might

772
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:37,320
be familiar with this this term but in-game leader and this is a unique one and we've

773
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,520
done it in the past at times but the idea is that the same and this one I think they've

774
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:46,320
done in the past very successfully where they would host in-game tournaments or in-game

775
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,800
prizes and if you showed up at that time and then participated in the event or whatever

776
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,640
then you got an airdrop it's pretty cool.

777
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:59,500
The sandbox is a metaverse it's a social space and we want people and our players to also

778
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:04,360
be able to engage with ambassadors while they're actually playing the sandbox in their experiences

779
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:09,040
in the hubs and things like that and so we also wanted to have a track where people and

780
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:14,560
ambassadors that play the game can be rewarded for simply being present and engaging with

781
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,960
both new and existing community members within the platform itself and so these are the four

782
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:24,800
tracks we have community manager, content creator, key opinion leader or KOL and IGL

783
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,640
or in-game leader.

784
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:31,480
We could even expand it further in the future but these are four distinct.

785
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,480
I sure hope so because one of the questions that I asked was where is the ambassador DOW?

786
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:46,920
Where the DOW ambassador? Cyril and his team need help engaging and their team is small

787
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,400
and you can tell because they're struggling to moderate.

788
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,760
I think Cyril said in a response to one of my threads that there is no moderator per

789
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:56,760
se.

790
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:04,600
Geraldine is tasked with promoting the creating threads on SIPs and then answering some where

791
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,760
Geraldine is able to but they need help.

792
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:16,880
They need people to help so I think they should open up a DOW ambassador track.

793
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,920
Tracks that we identified as opportunities to expand upon the existing program.

794
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,640
Excellent.

795
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:29,280
I think it's also important to maybe let the people listening know that people applying

796
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:35,000
for these ambassador roles they could potentially be part of multiple different tracks.

797
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,680
Is that correct?

798
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,640
Yep, that's absolutely correct.

799
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:45,480
So obviously it's time commitment willing and so we need to be confident that the people

800
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,920
that want to be a part of multiple tracks do have the bandwidth and ability to succeed

801
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,540
at them but they're not mutually exclusive.

802
01:02:52,540 --> 01:02:56,920
You can absolutely have someone that's both a content creator and a community manager.

803
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:57,920
That's cool.

804
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:58,920
That's an interesting thing.

805
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:05,440
So you can kind of be both.

806
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:10,400
Let's green up that section so we're past that and we're at the next question which

807
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,200
was can people be part of multiple tracks?

808
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,840
It says, survey says yes.

809
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,400
Or vice versa or any combination.

810
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,800
That's good to know.

811
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:21,800
That's something new.

812
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,800
I don't think we've heard that answer before.

813
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:24,800
Excellent.

814
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:29,120
And I'm just going to stay, please don't mute your mic.

815
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,640
It needs to stay on constantly.

816
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:38,520
That was the first question asked that wasn't asked or answered in the forums up until this

817
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,640
point that I'm aware of.

818
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:47,440
Our next question is how will the ambassadors be compensated for their work?

819
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:54,640
Yeah, so this is rightfully I think been a pretty hot topic in the doubt.

820
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:55,640
Here we go.

821
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,040
Hot topic.

822
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,040
That's it.

823
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,040
Let's talk about it.

824
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,960
Because this is where it gets.

825
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:07,680
This is where people like Candley Christen have some very strong opinions and criticisms

826
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,040
that what they've seen so far.

827
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,920
So Amit, what do you got for us?

828
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,960
Out for them and on socials.

829
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,760
And so I think it's important for us to kind of address this, of course, a couple things.

830
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:27,160
Number one, there's going to be a set uniform transparent compensation plan across the ambassador.

831
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,240
And all my friends did post that one earlier today.

832
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:34,040
Let's take a look at it real fast.

833
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,120
So here it is the compensation matrix.

834
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,640
There we go.

835
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:48,560
So if you are a KOL influencer, the light version is one post every two weeks, the full

836
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,200
version is one post a week.

837
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,180
And it looks like it's all doubled.

838
01:04:53,180 --> 01:04:58,520
So at the micro level, you get 100 sand a month, lower mid level, you get 200 sand a

839
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,160
month, upper mid level 500, and macro levels 800.

840
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:08,440
I don't know what each I don't know what that means micro lower upper macro lanes, but of

841
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,480
the light version, that's the compensation and the full version is that doubled.

842
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,840
And the full version if you post one time a week for content creators, the light version

843
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:23,040
is one making one asset every two weeks, and you get 250 sand a month, whereas the full

844
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,880
version is one asset a week and you get 500 sand a month.

845
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:31,760
For community management, the light version is spend four hours a week, you get 750 sand

846
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,760
a month.

847
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:38,480
And the full version is eight hours a week and you get 1500 sand a month.

848
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:39,480
That's a pretty good amount.

849
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:40,480
That's pretty good amount.

850
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:50,360
The 100 sand 200 sand and the 200 sand foreign is in for the KOL influencers that that's

851
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:51,360
kind of low.

852
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:57,880
I mean, you pretty much get that about that just participating in the events.

853
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:03,340
But I mean, it's better than zero for content creators, you're getting more.

854
01:06:03,340 --> 01:06:08,040
So it seems like Oh, and in the end game, the end game, the light version for four hours

855
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,480
a week is foreign sand.

856
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:16,640
I would fire them I would bump it up is your end game, play retention is pretty important.

857
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:17,640
Pretty important.

858
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,600
Yeah, I could change it said understand is $25.

859
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:28,520
So that micro under the light of KOL influencers, that's $25 a month, US dollars.

860
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,840
And then it's $50 a month for full.

861
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,320
And that's posting once a week.

862
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,280
So the end game, the light is four hours a week, which is 400 sand.

863
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,320
The full is eight hours a week.

864
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,360
800 sand.

865
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,640
These numbers seem a little bit low.

866
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:55,920
And as I recall, the current ambassadors are getting I don't think they're even getting

867
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:56,920
that much.

868
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:02,960
I remember I think I saw someone put what their compensation was somewhere but it was

869
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:07,040
it was not much at all they had said.

870
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:13,560
So that that was what all my friends responded to on the forums after the AMA.

871
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:19,040
And then talking about how there's currently 35 ambassadors right now.

872
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:24,840
And but only I think five are active at any given time, which is surprising.

873
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,760
It seems like there are more ambassadors active than that.

874
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:35,280
They just seem to be more present than just five people.

875
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,200
What conditions would a newly accepted ambassador not receive compensation?

876
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,360
This is just all my friends just said this is only about talking about the application

877
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,160
of it.

878
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:48,000
And not not the actual like if you get accepted as ambassador, you will be compensated for

879
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,000
your work.

880
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:55,080
That's what that same what's stopping TSB from welcoming and even more members.

881
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:59,080
Just because they said they were focused on community management and fostering the ecosystem.

882
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,480
And as they've grown into new markets, which that pairs nicely with what Seb said as to

883
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:08,600
why they delayed a Dow until May of this year, we see it now is a great time to revamp the

884
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:13,240
program and allow more participation and rewards.

885
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:18,240
We felt that proposing and the Dow makes the most sense given the goals in the Ambassador

886
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,160
Program and the Dows are in alignment.

887
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,160
Okay, cool.

888
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,160
Makes sense.

889
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,280
What about this does not allow you to project the exact number of ambassadors and went through

890
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,360
a few reasons, variable compensation, so they hadn't quite figured out what the compensation

891
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,640
was yet.

892
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,800
On what tracks they're offering, they couldn't predict the quality of the candidates.

893
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:41,000
So making sure that one post was actually enough a week.

894
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,760
Next one was what key metrics so active members assets delivered.

895
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,240
So they had sound like they hadn't yet figured this part out yet.

896
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,240
Up until recently.

897
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:54,560
They didn't really know and they didn't know they needed to know, which kind of goes along

898
01:08:54,560 --> 01:09:02,320
with what what I had been saying how my sips had been under pretty intense scrutiny, or

899
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:07,080
really detailing down to the nth degree, what it was that my sip was offering.

900
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:13,840
Whereas the sandbox sip, I don't think they had this didn't seem like they had this yet.

901
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,720
A light and full track and kind of see the grammar of it.

902
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,640
It's kind of all in lowercase.

903
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:25,600
I don't think that this was made before the sip was created.

904
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:30,920
And I don't really necessarily think it needed to until the community asked for it.

905
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,080
Like, that's your time to create it.

906
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:40,400
It doesn't necessarily have to be done 100% to the nth degree beforehand.

907
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:46,200
And then I think the Dow team, because it was a sandbox sip from the sandbox team, they

908
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,880
let it go through the condition that it's in.

909
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,640
And then they realized, oh, shoot, the community is really asking all of these questions.

910
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,920
And then they need to give more and they did.

911
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,760
So they did.

912
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,280
I don't I don't fault the process here for that one.

913
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:06,860
Just don't apply more scrutiny to my sip.

914
01:10:06,860 --> 01:10:10,800
Because I'm a community member, and I don't have quite the power that the sandbox team

915
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,280
does.

916
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:20,600
All right, and then will the management the program change from the sandbox to the Dow

917
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,760
sandbox for me and the manager of the ambassador program and pretty soon here, Amit will say

918
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:25,760
that outright.

919
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:30,440
The Dow is providing the funding for the program and we request support, blah, blah, blah,

920
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:31,480
allegations and cheating.

921
01:10:31,480 --> 01:10:33,480
We take it very seriously.

922
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:39,200
Any requests reviewed by internal teams and our anti cheat parameters.

923
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,820
Ambassador program compensation, which we went over first.

924
01:10:41,820 --> 01:10:49,420
So that was all my friends response to a lot of my questions and then other community questions.

925
01:10:49,420 --> 01:10:50,880
After that.

926
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:59,400
Okay, let's keep going back to the AMA.

927
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:04,560
Which has comments as well.

928
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,560
Miguel said one problem I always believe the sandbox had is that they think sand is worth

929
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:15,120
$1 and tomorrow will be worth 10.

930
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,360
I don't disagree with that.

931
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:23,160
I myself believe even though I know it's trading at what 26 cents right now on the dollar.

932
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:24,720
I understand.

933
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,920
I look at it as I want to be $1.

934
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,720
I hope it will be more than that in the future.

935
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,280
It isn't right now though.

936
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:38,680
So yeah, yeah, that's, that's fair.

937
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:43,000
Alright, back to the AMA entire ambassador program.

938
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:48,960
And so each of the four tracks that we just outlined will have two levels of time commitment.

939
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:55,640
There's going to be a light version and a full version for content creators and K wells

940
01:11:55,640 --> 01:12:01,000
light versus full is determined by the number of posts for community managers and IGLs.

941
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,800
It's based on the hours they put in.

942
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:07,480
But in both cases, you're going to have two tracks of time commitment.

943
01:12:07,480 --> 01:12:12,320
And they're going to have set amounts of compensation per track accordingly.

944
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:18,680
We have been getting feedback and going back and forth with both existing ambassadors as

945
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,920
well as new applicants that are interested in joining the program.

946
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,360
And so we're still finalizing exactly what those numbers will be.

947
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,040
But that's what I mean.

948
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,120
They didn't know yet.

949
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,440
I don't think they needed they thought they needed to know yet and I don't fault them

950
01:12:32,440 --> 01:12:33,920
for not knowing.

951
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,800
You need to know if you're asked.

952
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,040
There's SIP creating SIPs is hard.

953
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,040
It's very hard.

954
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:45,920
I've done five of them and I'm gonna I'm working on three more.

955
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:53,280
It takes a lot of research, a lot of critical thinking takes a lot of like back end formulas

956
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:58,200
and just all sorts of stuff you have to anticipate questions and then decide on whether or not

957
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,720
though answering those questions in the SIP is worth it.

958
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,880
Not worth it, but is it significant enough to put in the SIP?

959
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:12,440
You want to give so much detail that you get tons of disagreement on the fine details.

960
01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:16,120
So there's an incentive to keep it at the high level because at the high level people

961
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:17,120
can agree on things.

962
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,920
But when you start getting down into the those is it 100 sand or 200 sand and then people

963
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,800
will vote no because you decided to say 200 sand versus 100 sand.

964
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,400
We didn't really need to say so in the beginning.

965
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:32,080
Like that's a whole negotiation that I myself have an appreciation for having gone through

966
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,520
this process.

967
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:41,640
So Kachenga said that and not communicating anything to us that makes us believe it.

968
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:42,640
Yes, agreed.

969
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:43,640
Agreed.

970
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:49,000
Should have been much more communicative before now, you know, three days before the SIP ends.

971
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:53,840
I think they realized that there was so much disagreement going on that they fear that

972
01:13:53,840 --> 01:14:01,920
would derail some of the yes no vote and we're seeing that's not the case right now.

973
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:06,600
But yeah, it is of note for sure.

974
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,000
And this is an important point.

975
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:13,680
We plan on publishing and sharing with all of you what that compensation track is going

976
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:14,840
to be.

977
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,800
And that's what we just went over here with all my friends.

978
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:23,040
This part right here.

979
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:28,020
All four different ambassador tracks at the two different commitment levels publicly.

980
01:14:28,020 --> 01:14:32,320
So everyone will have full visibility and transparency into what the compensation is

981
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,160
for the different tracks.

982
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:40,520
Now to be noted, full visibility and transparency at the tail end of the vote.

983
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,520
But like I said, I don't fault them for it.

984
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,500
And that it just took them a long time to respond to it.

985
01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:47,500
That's what it really was.

986
01:14:47,500 --> 01:14:52,960
There were questions about the distribution weeks ago during the public comment period.

987
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,400
It could mean as a community member you're able to be in the know.

988
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,760
Or it could mean as a prospective ambassador you know what you're going to be getting and

989
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,720
what you're going to be signing up for.

990
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:06,440
I do want to note that just from an admin perspective because I saw this question, ambassadors

991
01:15:06,440 --> 01:15:10,920
are not employees of the sandbox but rather they're contractors.

992
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,520
And so it's a much more flexible work arrangement.

993
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:19,120
And the time commitment that we're expecting from ambassadors is much, much, much less

994
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:24,080
than what we would expect from a full-time employee or something like that.

995
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,640
But yeah, in terms of compensation, we will be sharing that.

996
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,280
Ambassadors will be compensated in sand on a monthly basis.

997
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:36,440
And the initial numbers that we share, they will be subject to change, but that will largely

998
01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:40,760
be due to if we see tremendous fluctuations in sand or things like that.

999
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:45,600
Because we want to ensure that ambassadors are always being compensated fairly and reasonably

1000
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:46,600
on global payments.

1001
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,080
So there you have it.

1002
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:57,640
And it looks like which will be adjusted to ensure they are compensated fairly.

1003
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:04,080
And that's directly to what Kachinga was just saying and Miguel.

1004
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:09,360
So it looks like Amit is saying that they are willing to change the compensation rate,

1005
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,360
which is why it's so difficult.

1006
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,560
Should you put it in the SIP or should you not?

1007
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:18,580
Because these things are subject to change, and they're allowed to be changed like that.

1008
01:16:18,580 --> 01:16:21,160
So that gives them flexibility.

1009
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,400
But where now we nailed them to give us a number, they did.

1010
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:29,040
And then we disagree with the number or whatever, and then people vote no because of it.

1011
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,120
It's just, it invites more.

1012
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,360
I understand and appreciate why they didn't.

1013
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,400
But because they're asked so much about it, they did.

1014
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,480
And I think that was the right move to make.

1015
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:45,320
They scaled, but we'll be transparent, we'll be shared, and we'll be uniform across the

1016
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,320
whole program.

1017
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,320
Excellent.

1018
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:55,240
Well, Miguel, Miguel said in chat, being someone who is very impatient, I think it would be

1019
01:16:55,240 --> 01:17:00,080
very difficult to me to create a SIP or prepare it and meet the requirements of the Dow team.

1020
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,440
Yeah, right now the requirements of the Dow team are pretty high.

1021
01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:08,160
And that's because they stated that they want these initial SIPs to be spot on.

1022
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,880
They want to be in top form, that way they serve as an example to all the other SIPs

1023
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,440
that follow.

1024
01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:20,560
And as a result, most of my SIPs have been waiting for comments for over 30 days.

1025
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:26,920
Even the SIP that is closest to vote has been waiting for almost a week.

1026
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:33,360
And just the back and forth needed, it's because they only have one person working SIPs right

1027
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,920
now and Cyril is trying to hire more than one.

1028
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,560
So, yeah.

1029
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:46,320
So, moving on.

1030
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:53,600
So who manages the Ambassador program now and will ownership change if the SIP passes?

1031
01:17:53,600 --> 01:18:00,160
Here it goes.

1032
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:05,000
I can take this one on and then Cyril or Seb, if you guys want to jump in afterwards.

1033
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,560
Yeah, we saw some questions about ownership of this and the fact that...

1034
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:14,640
And so this long kind of buildup kind of tells you what the answer is going to be already.

1035
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:20,080
Amit, even though this is mostly the marketing team speaking and they're going to have this

1036
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:27,640
sort of wrapper, one could call it fluff, I would just call it healthy explanation.

1037
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,000
You can expect that.

1038
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,200
You know to expect that.

1039
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:39,000
But this kind of tiptoeing toward it kind of tells you what the answer is going to be.

1040
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,480
I'll give you one guess.

1041
01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:44,920
It's being brought as a SIP to the DAO.

1042
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:49,240
The reason why it's being brought to the DAO is because we think the vision of the Ambassador

1043
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:56,000
program is incredibly closely aligned with what the DAO's own purpose is, which is...

1044
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,000
Go on.

1045
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:02,880
Well, how do we enable the community to participate in the evolution and growth of the sandbox

1046
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,000
ecosystem?

1047
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,640
And so that's what the Ambassador...

1048
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,040
That is a confusing answer to me.

1049
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,280
Let's look at what's the vision of the DAO.

1050
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:13,760
So it's in vision.

1051
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,380
So here's the vision.

1052
01:19:17,380 --> 01:19:20,840
Vision is to one community, many parts.

1053
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,480
We are a metaverse diverse platform.

1054
01:19:23,480 --> 01:19:25,640
It is also working with impact.

1055
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,960
We work with a collective to build a platform that serves the community.

1056
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,360
It's empowerment.

1057
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:32,600
In our community, everyone's matters.

1058
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:37,040
Your participation via digital ownership allows you to share the future and transparency.

1059
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,560
Decisions, information, and process.

1060
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:47,880
If I had to guess, they're trying to fill it through vision statement number one, which

1061
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,520
was one community, many parts, and vision statement number three, which is empowerment

1062
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,360
to empower the community.

1063
01:19:54,360 --> 01:20:01,880
However, this came from the sandbox team.

1064
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:07,400
And we'll see here in a second, Amit confirmed that it's going to remain with the sandbox

1065
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:08,400
team.

1066
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,340
So it's not going to be in the DAO's ownership.

1067
01:20:10,340 --> 01:20:14,920
So what empowerment is there in line with the vision statement?

1068
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:19,600
I'm not sure.

1069
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:20,800
Your program is there to do.

1070
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:26,000
It's there to engage and support the community in growing the sandbox.

1071
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:32,460
With that said, the sandbox existing ambassador program has been managed by the sandbox's

1072
01:20:32,460 --> 01:20:35,840
own community team, and that's going to remain the case.

1073
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,000
And so that was well worded.

1074
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:45,920
So the sandbox existing ambassador program has been managed by the sandbox, its own community

1075
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,560
management team, and this will remain the case.

1076
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,600
So very, very nicely worded.

1077
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,300
There you have it.

1078
01:20:56,300 --> 01:20:57,300
It's not going to the DAO.

1079
01:20:57,300 --> 01:20:59,640
There's no DAO ownership of it of any kind.

1080
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,440
The DAO is just paying for it.

1081
01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:07,920
The DAO will not be the active managers of the sandbox ambassador program.

1082
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:12,680
It will be the basically the source of support.

1083
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,160
And that basically means just the money for the program.

1084
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:20,600
But the actual management of the ambassador program will remain with the community team,

1085
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:25,120
which I think our existing ambassadors and those who that have interacted with them,

1086
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:30,040
Panda being a member of it, can agree that they've been doing a great job.

1087
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,920
That was news to me.

1088
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:32,920
So I didn't know.

1089
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:36,800
I knew that there was like a sandbox team who managed the ambassador program.

1090
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:47,440
I didn't know that they were that that team was managed by or that Panda was on it, as

1091
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:50,120
is other community members.

1092
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,440
That was news.

1093
01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:52,760
I don't disagree with that.

1094
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:58,480
I don't find that be like offensive or or wrong in any way.

1095
01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:02,440
It's just I had never seen that I had not heard that before.

1096
01:22:02,440 --> 01:22:07,920
It's been been of immense value and trust with the community, and so they will remain

1097
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:11,560
the primary caretakers of the ambassador program.

1098
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:16,920
And in terms so that's kind of I think where they're saying the community is involved,

1099
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,720
empowered because it seems like the community is choosing the ambassadors.

1100
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:26,280
So in a way, you can say that the community is but that is very much outside of the DAO.

1101
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:33,040
So the DAO is not choosing anything, it seems like, but a part of the community who has

1102
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:40,000
been granted the authority to choose the ambassadors is and they themselves are community members

1103
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:46,080
like like Panda Pops, who, by the way, has a and my has my full faith and trust.

1104
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:47,800
I think Panda is great.

1105
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,920
I've seen Panda just be involved since I've been here.

1106
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:58,760
So yeah, I don't have any mistrust about that.

1107
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:03,280
But as some people mentioned in the forum post after this, the trust isn't with that

1108
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,760
the mistrust isn't against Panda Pops.

1109
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,960
It's against this whole system that's created a here's a here's your sip.

1110
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:11,960
Here's your sip.

1111
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,520
Now go vote.

1112
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,240
And then there wasn't much.

1113
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:22,520
It didn't seem to be much that changed in the sip because of the forum post.

1114
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:23,680
The amount stayed the same.

1115
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:24,680
All of that.

1116
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:29,000
The only thing that changed was they created more on top of it.

1117
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:33,160
So I wouldn't exactly call that community driven.

1118
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:39,200
So much as it was sandbox driven, and they asked for the community to endorse it.

1119
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:40,200
Big difference.

1120
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,120
Read the chat.

1121
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:48,920
Miguel said being a someone you already spoke on that.

1122
01:23:48,920 --> 01:24:06,040
Ching, I think I saw you say something about my my stream chat just just

1123
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,040
I missed it.

1124
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:18,080
Okay, so yeah, that that kind of revealed it.

1125
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,600
That was the big reveal.

1126
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,960
I think that's what they've been building up to.

1127
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,420
We are over halfway done now.

1128
01:24:24,420 --> 01:24:26,360
And they're still at a very high level.

1129
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:31,820
So this is getting into the granular that the Dow will not be participating as active

1130
01:24:31,820 --> 01:24:33,480
managers in any way.

1131
01:24:33,480 --> 01:24:39,920
It'll just be the sandbox team and the sandbox community team within that team who are community

1132
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,520
members reviewing applications and such.

1133
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:49,000
So this is the first foray into them getting specific.

1134
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:55,200
So I'm gonna note that first time specifics.

1135
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,200
First time specifics.

1136
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:03,400
Yeah, are are spoken about, I guess.

1137
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:11,200
All right, so I appreciate that they they said this.

1138
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,320
No, I have thoughts about it.

1139
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:19,280
And I have a podcast coming up with Joseph about this topic.

1140
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,920
Like, should the Dow money be for the Dow?

1141
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:23,320
Or should it be for the sandbox?

1142
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,160
How should we look at that?

1143
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:30,120
That's coming up in about a week and a half.

1144
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:35,960
I don't delve into that topic much right now, but I appreciate that they spoke about it.

1145
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:43,000
They spoke about it and they gave us a straight answer.

1146
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:49,720
Okay, keep going.

1147
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,700
How new ambassadors will be accepted.

1148
01:25:52,700 --> 01:25:56,360
Right now, the community team is the one that's leading that.

1149
01:25:56,360 --> 01:26:01,040
So it's not the Dow, it's not the council members that are interviewing the ambassador,

1150
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,200
but it's rather the existing community team from the sandbox that has been there for a

1151
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:08,600
very long time and includes members of the community itself.

1152
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:14,920
And in the future, the goal is for ambassadors themselves to be able to play an active role

1153
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:20,540
in interviewing and accepting and evaluating ambassador candidates.

1154
01:26:20,540 --> 01:26:22,040
I'm confused about what that means.

1155
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:27,240
Because I think isn't Panda right now an ambassador?

1156
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:28,240
But she was an ambassador.

1157
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,360
Maybe she's not maybe she's part of the community team.

1158
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,880
And so she's like one step above that, but not quite an employee.

1159
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,920
I'm not really sure the status is.

1160
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:43,120
But I think what he's saying is the ambassadors that are being interviewed and accepted now

1161
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:47,440
will have some say in interviewing and accepting future ambassadors.

1162
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:51,200
So maybe like an ambassador hiring team of ambassadors.

1163
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:52,420
Yeah, sure.

1164
01:26:52,420 --> 01:26:57,100
And so it's that the community will get to really appoint and select the ambassadors

1165
01:26:57,100 --> 01:26:59,040
that they want to be.

1166
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:04,680
So what that tells me is that in the future, they plan on doing it and not this one.

1167
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,280
So interesting.

1168
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,720
No.

1169
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:14,520
So we're Seb said earlier, we want the community to do this, we want the community to be the

1170
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:16,560
ones to determine the budget.

1171
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,760
I think what Seb was speaking about was a future thing.

1172
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,960
So I think this gives clarity.

1173
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,960
So future.

1174
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:32,120
Future ambassador.

1175
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:36,000
Program.

1176
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,680
Will have more ambassador.

1177
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:39,680
Okay.

1178
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,480
In the program themselves.

1179
01:27:41,480 --> 01:27:42,480
Thanks, Kachinga.

1180
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:48,440
I can just add a few things.

1181
01:27:48,440 --> 01:27:55,520
I think, Amit, what you said, spot on, this is naturally being presented by the DAO for

1182
01:27:55,520 --> 01:28:00,360
voting because that's something to embark as many community member and active community

1183
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,800
member and transform them into ambassadors.

1184
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:09,640
So that naturally felt like a good candidate for a SIP because the DAO is our way to connect

1185
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,000
deeply with the community.

1186
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:16,280
But like you said, there's no such thing as reporting to the DAO or be accountable to

1187
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:23,160
the DAO's community because the DAO's community and the sandbox community is one community

1188
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:24,160
at the end of the day, right?

1189
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:28,240
We are two sister company that work hand in hand and share the same goals.

1190
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:32,400
So it's just the DAO is kind of acting like the bank, if you want on this one, if I can

1191
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:36,680
oversimplify it, but all management and day to day activity will surely remain in the

1192
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,400
hands of the current team, your team and the marketing people.

1193
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,880
So this was an interesting comment from Cyril.

1194
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:49,840
And I think it revealed the heart of what my, my uneasiness is about this whole thing.

1195
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:54,720
Alright, so let's go through it one more time.

1196
01:28:54,720 --> 01:29:01,160
Amit said that the question was at 30 minutes by Panda.

1197
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,280
She asked who manages the sandbox program now and who will when the SIP passes.

1198
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:13,680
Amit said the sandbox is it existing ambassador program has been managing the ambassador.

1199
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:18,580
The sandbox teams, community management team has been managing that.

1200
01:29:18,580 --> 01:29:19,580
It will remain the case.

1201
01:29:19,580 --> 01:29:24,800
The DAO won't be an active manager in any way in the ambassador program, but in the

1202
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:30,820
future the goal was for the ambassadors themselves to be involved in interviewing and accepting

1203
01:29:30,820 --> 01:29:32,680
other ambassador candidates.

1204
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:37,000
Unsure exactly what that means, but okay.

1205
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:45,540
And Cyril says this SIP is a natural thing for the to be presented within the DAO.

1206
01:29:45,540 --> 01:29:49,920
And it felt like a good candidate because the DAO is connected deeply with the community

1207
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,480
and there's no such thing.

1208
01:29:51,480 --> 01:29:56,720
And even though that's the case, there is no such thing as reporting to the DAO's community.

1209
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,480
They work hand in hand and share the same goals.

1210
01:29:59,480 --> 01:30:10,000
But most interestingly, he said that they're the same team.

1211
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:15,200
The DAO community and the sandbox community is the same.

1212
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:22,760
And if that's the case, that struck me as...

1213
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:29,760
I lost my train of thought.

1214
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:30,760
I'll go back.

1215
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:31,760
I'll go back just a little bit.

1216
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:32,760
So 13, 3316.

1217
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:33,760
Let's go back.

1218
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:34,760
Oh dear.

1219
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:46,760
I have to go through all over again.

1220
01:30:46,760 --> 01:31:10,120
Some sort of problem with the thing itself.

1221
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:14,440
The reason why it's being brought to the DAO is because we think the vision of the ambassador

1222
01:31:14,440 --> 01:31:19,720
program is incredibly closely aligned with what the DAO's own purpose is, which is how

1223
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:24,800
do we enable the community to participate in the evolution and growth of the sandbox

1224
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:25,880
ecosystem?

1225
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,660
And so that's what the ambassador program is there to do.

1226
01:31:28,660 --> 01:31:33,880
It's there to engage and support the community in growing the sandbox.

1227
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:40,340
With that said, the sandbox existing ambassador program has been managed by the sandbox's

1228
01:31:40,340 --> 01:31:42,100
own community team.

1229
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:43,100
And that's going to remain the case.

1230
01:31:43,100 --> 01:31:45,880
We'll remind you of that in the first part.

1231
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:52,240
That naturally felt like a good candidate for a SIP because the DAO is our way to connect

1232
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:53,640
deeply with the community.

1233
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:58,920
But like you said, there's no such thing as reporting to the DAO or be accountable to

1234
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:03,400
the DAO's community because the DAO's community and the sandbox community is one community

1235
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:04,400
at the end of the day.

1236
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:08,480
You have two sister companies that work hand in hand and share the same goals.

1237
01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:11,480
So it's just the DAO is kind of acting like the bank.

1238
01:32:11,480 --> 01:32:15,800
If you want on this one, if I can oversimplify it, but all management and day to day activity

1239
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:22,560
will surely remain in the hands of the current team, your team and the marketing people.

1240
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:23,560
There we go.

1241
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:30,320
So there's no such thing as reporting to the DAO community because the DAO community and

1242
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,000
sandbox community is the same thing.

1243
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,700
And I appreciate that Cyril said this.

1244
01:32:35,700 --> 01:32:41,880
I don't have any misgivings about that perspective.

1245
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:47,800
However, that does create some interesting conflicts with what's been said so far.

1246
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:52,680
If the DAO community and the sandbox community is the same thing, why is the DAO paying for

1247
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:57,280
it?

1248
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:04,480
Why isn't the DAO involved in the hiring process at all?

1249
01:33:04,480 --> 01:33:07,240
They're the same thing, right?

1250
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,320
DAO community, sandbox community.

1251
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:14,400
So that being the case, there's some interesting...

1252
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:21,160
The DAO and the DAO Foundation and the sandbox game company are two separate entities, but

1253
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,100
yet they're the same community.

1254
01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:28,360
So the DAO should be paying for something that the sandbox game company manages, but

1255
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:29,960
they're separate, but the same.

1256
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:34,920
So there's this kind of weird...

1257
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,340
I think...

1258
01:33:36,340 --> 01:33:41,480
And because this is a one-way communication, there isn't much that people can respond back

1259
01:33:41,480 --> 01:33:42,520
to on this.

1260
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:49,920
And when I heard that statement from Cyril just now, I was scratching my head.

1261
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:59,680
The SIP came from the sandbox team to manage and increase the compensation for a sandbox

1262
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,780
team managed activity.

1263
01:34:03,780 --> 01:34:08,840
They want the DAO to pay for it as the bank because they believe the DAO's vision and

1264
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:15,560
the sandbox team with the ambassador program are closely aligned and overlapping, but they

1265
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:19,160
won't give the DAO any control over anything.

1266
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:25,040
It will remain answering to the sandbox community team, which answers to the sandbox marketing

1267
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:29,320
team.

1268
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:30,400
That has me scratch my head.

1269
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,520
There's something I don't like about that.

1270
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:37,680
Something that seems off about that explanation and how that's all been connecting to the

1271
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:42,680
AMA so far.

1272
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:47,880
This is what I will be talking to Joseph about is what is the DAO money really for?

1273
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:48,880
Yep.

1274
01:34:48,880 --> 01:35:02,080
So I'll put in my little note here.

1275
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:05,960
And I'm not uneasy about what Cyril about Cyril saying this.

1276
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:12,680
I'm uneasy about how what Cyril just said compares in contrast with what has been pushed

1277
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,760
so far in this SIP.

1278
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,200
Yes.

1279
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,720
I don't know.

1280
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:24,720
Yeah, Kachinga said a contradiction.

1281
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:25,720
I agree.

1282
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:26,720
I agree.

1283
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:34,760
I the contradiction to me was just as soon as he said that I'm like, well, wait a minute.

1284
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:35,760
Hold on.

1285
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:41,160
It seems like you're some people are saying that to their benefit and now and now that

1286
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,440
we're saying well, why isn't that a part of this?

1287
01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:45,840
Then you're saying well, because they're the same.

1288
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:46,840
They're the same.

1289
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:48,720
So they don't need to be a part of this.

1290
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,440
DAO doesn't need to be part of this, because the DAO community and the sandbox community

1291
01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:53,880
are the same thing.

1292
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:58,760
But they are definitely separate, you know, when it comes to funding because the South

1293
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:05,540
sandbox foundation, which is the DAO and the sandbox community and the sandbox game company

1294
01:36:05,540 --> 01:36:07,520
are legally separate.

1295
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:16,280
So both are both things are being said in this interview as AMA, excuse me.

1296
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,960
So I'm uneasy about this.

1297
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:35,040
There seems like a contradiction in stating that the sandbox DAO community, so San Fam

1298
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:44,840
and sandbox game community are the same thing.

1299
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:56,540
That's not that's not the contradiction in stating that the sand that the DAO community

1300
01:36:56,540 --> 01:37:05,880
won't have a say in how the ambassador program is managed.

1301
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:11,480
While also saying the sandbox community and the sandbox and sandbox game community are

1302
01:37:11,480 --> 01:37:17,280
the same thing.

1303
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:26,040
That seems like a big contradiction.

1304
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:36,880
And while also saying that the DAO should pay for the ambassador program, because the

1305
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:44,860
DAO's vision and San and ambassador program is aligned.

1306
01:37:44,860 --> 01:37:51,280
So you want the money without the accountability or responsibility to the DAO.

1307
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:55,240
So that's where that sits.

1308
01:37:55,240 --> 01:38:01,480
That's the way it reads.

1309
01:38:01,480 --> 01:38:03,880
Change the color so it's a little bit easier to read.

1310
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:05,880
Oh, that's purple.

1311
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:14,880
It's not what I want.

1312
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:33,480
That looks a little better.

1313
01:38:33,480 --> 01:38:37,440
And by the way, if we had done Sandale podcast episode, I think we could have we could have

1314
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:42,520
worked our way through this in a very polite, gentle manner that wouldn't have been overly

1315
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:43,520
confrontational.

1316
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:50,240
We just would have discussed some of the peculiarities about that statement so that we could understand

1317
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:51,880
a little bit better.

1318
01:38:51,880 --> 01:39:00,200
And so that would help to resolve the mental the mental red flag that that brings up.

1319
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,720
That would have been my aim.

1320
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:08,920
Okay, let's keep going.

1321
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:15,640
Not sure if I said anything additional to add to that, but I am going to follow up with

1322
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:20,680
sort of a side question to who's managing the ambassador program.

1323
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:27,640
So if a if a sip comes out for an ambassador may not wish the support of remote, because

1324
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:31,520
it has been mentioned that content can be requested.

1325
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:35,280
Will these ambassadors be forced to promote this?

1326
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:39,160
Yeah, it's a it's a good question.

1327
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:40,720
And that is a good question.

1328
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:41,720
Very simple.

1329
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:42,840
Absolutely not.

1330
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:51,920
So there will absolutely never be like pressure or force put on our ambassadors to support

1331
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:56,800
a sip that they don't that is not in line with their own beliefs.

1332
01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:01,000
I think it's important to say that as a sandbox ambassador, in my view, it's important to

1333
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:06,920
always engage all topics in like a constructive and and like mindful way.

1334
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:11,120
Like we're definitely going to have a code of conduct that we expect from from ambassadors.

1335
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:17,480
But at no point will any ambassador be pressured to support a sip or take a view or stance

1336
01:40:17,480 --> 01:40:22,080
or produce content that's not in line with with how they feel.

1337
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:23,440
And that's good.

1338
01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:25,960
Ambassadors if we think about the different tracks, whether it's community, whether it's

1339
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:29,560
content that would help me if I begin to get back to that.

1340
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:34,480
That's differentiation between the Dow's role here in this program.

1341
01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:40,480
As Cyril put it, the Dow is supporting the program from a sand perspective, from a budgetary

1342
01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:41,600
perspective.

1343
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:46,640
But it's not that the ambassador's primary goal here is solely focused on the Dow and

1344
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:47,640
SIPs.

1345
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,060
It's really about the sandbox ecosystem at large.

1346
01:40:50,060 --> 01:40:54,880
And that to me is the telltale sign that it's not really the Dow at all.

1347
01:40:54,880 --> 01:41:01,560
I'm not I'm not seeing any responsibility to the Dow at this point.

1348
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:05,080
How will they engage with the Dow?

1349
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,080
That's something I need to ask.

1350
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:09,080
Right.

1351
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,160
That ends your question.

1352
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:19,800
How will ambassadors engage with the Dow specifically?

1353
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:25,800
Through the forums, Twitter.

1354
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:31,240
I mean, where where where is that engagement going to happen?

1355
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:35,480
I'm hoping that the engagement isn't zero.

1356
01:41:35,480 --> 01:41:44,280
You know, you get the money and then you forget about it.

1357
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:46,480
I hope not.

1358
01:41:46,480 --> 01:41:56,480
All right, let's keep going.

1359
01:41:56,480 --> 01:41:59,280
Yeah, absolutely.

1360
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:06,640
And it's not really about forcing the ambassador to vote yes or no or whatever.

1361
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:10,480
But at least, you know, being able to share that, yes, there's SIPs going on.

1362
01:42:10,480 --> 01:42:13,120
There's some voting that is happening.

1363
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:16,760
This is where ambassador can really help the Dow just being known.

1364
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:23,360
But obviously, we will never ask anybody to be in favor or against anything of the SIPs

1365
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,200
that are published if they have strong opinions.

1366
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:30,000
But just, you know, this part was confusing to me because Cyril is the Dow administrator

1367
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:35,320
and he's speaking on behalf of a sandbox team managed activity.

1368
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:40,840
So being there to relay the message as far as the Dow.

1369
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:41,840
That's good.

1370
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:48,120
Cyril here is saying that they're going to help by relaying the message and advertise

1371
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:49,800
that SIPs are going on.

1372
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:50,800
So that's good.

1373
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,800
I think that answers the question.

1374
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:59,160
This concern would be more than enough already.

1375
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:00,160
Absolutely.

1376
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:01,880
Like, this is not a job.

1377
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:02,880
You're not an employee.

1378
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:04,960
You're not bound or limited.

1379
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:06,560
This is flexible.

1380
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,240
You choose how you participate, how much time.

1381
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:13,560
You choose a topic that has your interest, which reflects your value.

1382
01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:18,520
You even decide the method of how you can relay the information and drive.

1383
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:24,040
We want to improve what we have and leverage the knowledge, the know-how that you have,

1384
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:31,840
like what makes you an ambassador to reach to new agencies, to increase the participation

1385
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,040
and to decide how you do it.

1386
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,760
You are not having someone telling you what to do.

1387
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:41,800
You actually have the whole autonomy and freedom to decide how you're going to do it, how you're

1388
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:43,960
going to drive that engagement.

1389
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:51,960
Your methods should also and obviously be respectful of the platform and respect of

1390
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:52,960
the community.

1391
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:58,440
But I'm excited to see how we're going to see very diverse methods.

1392
01:43:58,440 --> 01:44:03,560
And some will be more or less effective depending on the thematic, the country of the world,

1393
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,200
and so on.

1394
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:10,520
One quick thing that Seb said there that I think is also important in how to frame the

1395
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:14,320
Ambassador Program is he said it's not a job.

1396
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:16,000
And I think that's really important.

1397
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:23,340
The Ambassador's Program, it's not there to end to be thought of as like a method of employment.

1398
01:44:23,340 --> 01:44:27,000
The ambassadors are not like employees or full-time workers.

1399
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:31,220
And we're not thinking of the Ambassador Program as like a job.

1400
01:44:31,220 --> 01:44:38,360
It really is there for passionate community members who love spending time in the sandbox

1401
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:43,100
and around the sandbox and talking about the sandbox and finding ways to reward them for

1402
01:44:43,100 --> 01:44:44,680
doing so.

1403
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:49,820
It's not intended to be like a replacement for a job or a placement for full-time compensation

1404
01:44:49,820 --> 01:44:51,040
and things like that.

1405
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,280
It's really important to say that.

1406
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:59,440
And we're not expecting that type of responsibility or time commitment from our ambassadors.

1407
01:44:59,440 --> 01:45:04,560
But in any type of community, especially in gaming, you have hardcore fans and people

1408
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:09,840
that just love or hate the product, but they really just want to talk about it and engage

1409
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:10,840
with it.

1410
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:15,240
And this is a program that's designed to support those people and reward them for the time

1411
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:18,640
that they're already largely putting in.

1412
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:19,640
Well said.

1413
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:24,220
That was well said.

1414
01:45:24,220 --> 01:45:25,920
It stayed high level.

1415
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:31,240
It didn't really get down into the weeds and it pretty much echoed what Seb said.

1416
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:32,240
That was well said.

1417
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:33,240
Good job.

1418
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:41,080
Excellent on all of that.

1419
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:47,800
The next question, let's move on to, will the Dow Council leadership be involved in

1420
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:49,480
the selection of ambassadors?

1421
01:45:49,480 --> 01:45:50,480
I feel like this is slightly different.

1422
01:45:50,480 --> 01:45:51,480
The answer is probably no.

1423
01:45:51,480 --> 01:45:52,480
Right.

1424
01:45:52,480 --> 01:45:53,480
I think they answered that indirectly.

1425
01:45:53,480 --> 01:45:56,480
Yeah, absolutely not.

1426
01:45:56,480 --> 01:45:59,480
That's what they will.

1427
01:45:59,480 --> 01:46:04,280
Again, the role of the council is to give a recommendation on the SIPP itself.

1428
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:05,280
And they already did that.

1429
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:09,760
When the SIPP is, you know, every time the SIPP is being in the work, it is presented

1430
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:10,760
to the council.

1431
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:12,520
There's a good debate going on.

1432
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:16,840
Council's asking questions, it's listening to the operation and then administrative team

1433
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:20,880
to check for legality or, you know, relevance of the proposal itself.

1434
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:24,720
And then there's a vote and the council gives an overall recommendation and gets attached

1435
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:25,720
to the SIPP.

1436
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:29,760
That's the extensive, that's what they do and their work stops there.

1437
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:33,680
So they will absolutely not be involved in the day to day of selecting any ambassadors,

1438
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:42,320
unless the SIPP is about, you know, one particular ambassador, right, which is not the case today.

1439
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:47,960
Right now we're effectively asking the committee to vote on like engaging a budget, starting

1440
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:53,200
an effort, doing something versus what we had before doing nothing.

1441
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:58,880
So we expect that everyone wants to do something and it opens the door to like then after that,

1442
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:01,800
refine, be flexible and so on.

1443
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:07,720
We're not asking you to vote for yes or not in favor of one person, individual, one ambassador

1444
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:09,120
in person and so on.

1445
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:10,560
That's not the case.

1446
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:18,560
So we hope like really the key took away after this IMA and before the voting on the SIPP

1447
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:25,040
clause is like, please vote yes, no abstain, but let's reach the quorum so we can enforce

1448
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:31,880
and kick off something that will impact sandbox starting this second half of the year.

1449
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:38,560
A very good point made by you Seb right now, which is no matter what your vote is, definitely

1450
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:40,680
do go vote.

1451
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:49,040
So yeah, go to the sandbox of DAO SIPP 11 and you'll be able to vote yes or no or you

1452
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:56,560
can abstain if you so wish and yeah, definitely go cast your vote because your opinions definitely

1453
01:47:56,560 --> 01:48:03,920
matter in regards to all of the SIPPs that we launch as part of the sandbox of DAO.

1454
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:09,760
So it's with knowing like yes, the council, the DAO council and leadership aren't involved

1455
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:10,760
in selection process.

1456
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:16,720
It is the selection process will just be the sandbox marketing team.

1457
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:22,680
So moving on, what is the current size of the program and how will that change with

1458
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:26,760
the relaunch and I think this is targeted to you.

1459
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:28,200
Sure.

1460
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:29,200
So cool.

1461
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:30,400
This is a good one.

1462
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:32,400
This is a great question.

1463
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:36,080
I'll get myself in order here.

1464
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:40,280
So the question Panda asked was what is the current size of the program and how will that

1465
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:41,280
change?

1466
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:43,600
So these are specifics.

1467
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:47,360
We are two thirds of the way through.

1468
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:54,640
On the size of the current program, it's varied over time with the EBS and PROS, but on average

1469
01:48:54,640 --> 01:49:00,360
it's been at about 30 to 35 ambassadors, again, largely focused in that community manager

1470
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:07,280
capacity, but at any given time I would say five to 10 of those are active and engaged

1471
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,600
on a weekly basis and talking to the community.

1472
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:16,340
So that's the current scale of the existing program.

1473
01:49:16,340 --> 01:49:26,320
So we saw that answer with all my friends a little bit earlier when I pulled up the

1474
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:31,280
compensation table and Amit just said it here.

1475
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:38,240
So on average, there are about 30 to 35 ambassadors in the investor program and at any given time

1476
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:43,840
only five or 10 of them are active.

1477
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:45,480
Okay.

1478
01:49:45,480 --> 01:49:46,480
That's fascinating.

1479
01:49:46,480 --> 01:49:47,960
I did not know that.

1480
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:53,320
It sounded like they were way more active, but if only five or 10 are in actively engaged

1481
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:56,680
on a weekly basis, I get why they're doing this SIP.

1482
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:58,060
I get it.

1483
01:49:58,060 --> 01:50:00,640
They want to incentivize more participation.

1484
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:02,520
Makes sense.

1485
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:04,520
Keep going.

1486
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:09,520
In terms of how it will change with the relaunch, I think I can share and I'm excited to share

1487
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:15,680
that we've had over 800 applicants already in the program.

1488
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,560
That's not to say all of them are like perfect fits for the project.

1489
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:20,600
And I'm one of those 800.

1490
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:25,160
And frankly, with the initial budget we have, it's not that it's going to be enough to support

1491
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:26,760
every single person.

1492
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:31,980
But the goal of this new relaunch is absolutely to substantially scale the size of the program

1493
01:50:31,980 --> 01:50:36,740
and be able to have far more ambassadors and far more roles while obviously ensuring that

1494
01:50:36,740 --> 01:50:41,140
all of them are being compensated fairly for their time and commitment.

1495
01:50:41,140 --> 01:50:44,720
And like I mentioned, that compensation will be shared upfront with every ambassador who

1496
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:48,360
can then make a decision of whether they wish to join or not.

1497
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:55,000
But I think it's fair to say that our goal by the end of the year is to reach over 100

1498
01:50:55,000 --> 01:51:02,680
ambassadors that are active, which would represent a 20x increase over what I think we have currently.

1499
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,200
And it's very ambitious.

1500
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:07,760
And then we move into next year and evaluate and try to go from there.

1501
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:08,760
I don't think it's super ambitious.

1502
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:10,560
I think that's the right move to make.

1503
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:16,920
We were very, very humbled and excited by the initial amount of interested parties to

1504
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:17,920
the new program.

1505
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:19,840
So it is a pretty big number.

1506
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:28,280
And to whittle that down to 100 through the management team, that's achievable.

1507
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:34,440
Sorry about that.

1508
01:51:34,440 --> 01:51:37,480
I got slightly disconnected there.

1509
01:51:37,480 --> 01:51:42,040
So what can the community expect for the future of the program?

1510
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:49,600
Seb, I don't know if you want to take this one.

1511
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:55,040
I can say a few things and then maybe let Seb finish it off.

1512
01:51:55,040 --> 01:52:00,320
So I think, you know, this is helping me.

1513
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:04,240
One of the key things is that we want to be responsive to the community.

1514
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:10,200
We're not suggesting that the SIPP exactly how it's been proposed is perfect as is.

1515
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:14,280
But the goal of the SIPP, the goal of the new program is very clear.

1516
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,080
We want to...

1517
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:17,680
That's an interesting thing to say.

1518
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:19,520
Put it this way.

1519
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:28,160
That's an interesting thing for the Dow admin team to accept.

1520
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:39,540
Right now the SIPP process is when it goes to vote like it is right now.

1521
01:52:39,540 --> 01:52:41,920
When that happens...

1522
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:49,920
Let's see.

1523
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:50,920
When that happens...

1524
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:54,280
I just lost my train of thought.

1525
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:58,880
There were some spam chats that just happened.

1526
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:04,160
Okay, he said it wasn't perfect.

1527
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:09,320
So the expectation so far is that when the SIPP goes to vote, after the public comment

1528
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:13,040
period, that that's the SIPP that they're going to accept and expect of you.

1529
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:17,440
I think what Amit is saying is that it will change after the fact.

1530
01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:21,000
I'm not opposed to that.

1531
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:28,600
I just want to be fairly applied by the admin team across all SIPPs, not just sandbox.

1532
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:29,760
That's it.

1533
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,000
That's my only note there.

1534
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:49,560
As long as this is applied fairly across all SIPPs and not just CSB SIPPs, this is fine.

1535
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:53,120
Yeah, that's fine.

1536
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:59,320
Just make sure you're not applying a different level of scrutiny to community SIPPs.

1537
01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:10,160
Because at that point, I mean, no, then you're giving the many dozens of CSB SIPPs a distinct

1538
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:18,360
advantage over being passed than every community SIPP at that point, including mine.

1539
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:20,360
That's not cool.

1540
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:25,200
Okay, so let's see.

1541
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:28,400
What do you say?

1542
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:35,560
This SIPP isn't perfect.

1543
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:42,160
Will improve over time.

1544
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:45,520
You want to grow the number of community members, the number of you who are listening right

1545
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:49,880
now who are able to be involved in the sandbox and are able to be rewarded for being involved

1546
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:51,520
in the sandbox.

1547
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:57,240
And the most important thing that you can trust is that it will be an iterative program.

1548
01:54:57,240 --> 01:55:02,760
And so even right now, the reason why we haven't published and shared the compensation structure

1549
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:06,480
is because we're listening to feedback from our existing ambassadors and from applicants

1550
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:10,000
and things like that, and making adjustments and listening to you all.

1551
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:14,920
And that'll continue to happen, whether it's around the number of tracks, how it's structured.

1552
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:18,940
All these types of things will continue to evolve and change with the community and based

1553
01:55:18,940 --> 01:55:20,380
on your feedback.

1554
01:55:20,380 --> 01:55:27,760
But the goal of the new ambassador program is to be able to expand and have more community

1555
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,800
members involved and rewarded for supporting the sandbox.

1556
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:39,360
And that's what you can expect in terms of the future of the program.

1557
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:41,240
I think it's just the beginning.

1558
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,440
Once it's voted, the rest can follow.

1559
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:46,400
If it's not voted, what's going to evolve?

1560
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:51,400
If we reach the quorum, there's three scenarios, like we don't reach the quorum, so effectively

1561
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,920
we cannot advance on it.

1562
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:58,120
We reach the quorum and yes, it's voted at the majority.

1563
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:04,240
Then we can officially kick things off, we'll be even more active into it, we'll involve

1564
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:09,580
multiple people, we'll publish and propose a different level of compensation for the

1565
01:56:09,580 --> 01:56:16,720
different action and activity based on the four categories that were mentioned previously.

1566
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:25,680
If no is voted, then we have to go back to rework either ourselves in a different model,

1567
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:31,000
the whole program and understand why it was voted no, where were the key reasons that

1568
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:36,880
actually were obstructing the idea of launching a new ambassador program to go live with the

1569
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:37,880
DAO.

1570
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:45,960
That will mean pushing probably by several weeks or months and giving no ability to advance

1571
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:47,800
into that program.

1572
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:52,000
It would be a shame, but we'll be respecting of course the opinion of the community and

1573
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:57,760
rework it with them to make sure that the second time it will be proposed either by

1574
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:03,040
us or eventually by anyone in the end could also propose their own ambassador's program

1575
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:07,320
or their own version of it to be voted by the community.

1576
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:09,040
I missed that the first time.

1577
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:13,720
That's fascinating.

1578
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:23,040
And anyone can propose their own ambassador program for the community.

1579
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:27,780
Huh.

1580
01:57:27,780 --> 01:57:30,800
How about that?

1581
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:37,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

1582
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:40,280
So this is exactly the way I would have wanted this to go.

1583
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:43,240
I missed that part when I was listening to this the first time.

1584
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:49,120
Seb is saying that we'll rework it if no, the benefits will get delayed, which is fair

1585
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:53,520
enough to be expected, and then anyone else can propose their own ambassador program if

1586
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:57,400
they really want to.

1587
01:57:57,400 --> 01:58:01,960
I don't know enough about the ambassador program to really do that, but I suppose that opens

1588
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:07,560
up some very, very interesting possibilities.

1589
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:12,960
All right, let's keep going.

1590
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:13,960
Only 10 minutes left.

1591
01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:23,600
We can do something here.

1592
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:26,280
Thank you for that, Seb.

1593
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:32,160
And it's now time to start wrapping up.

1594
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:38,720
However, any questions that the audience might have, please do jump on over to the forum

1595
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:46,440
where you can discuss this AMA, discuss the FIP, ask your questions, and we'll have someone

1596
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:51,400
in there who will be able to try and help you understand anything that you may not have

1597
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:52,400
understood.

1598
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:59,280
But yes, I want to say a huge thank you to Silvorte for being here, who I believe is

1599
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:02,080
just about to take off from the sky right now.

1600
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:04,680
Amit, thank you for that.

1601
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:10,280
As always, Sebastien, thank you for being here as well.

1602
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:11,280
Thank you, everyone.

1603
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:16,800
I hope that it provided enough clarity to help you make the informed decision.

1604
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:23,480
Once again, we don't need to agree that the vote is necessary to reach a quorum.

1605
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:29,760
The worst situation would be to not be able to advance on anything and hence not benefiting

1606
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:32,520
to progress the sandbox and the ecosystem.

1607
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:37,960
I don't know if we have a few minutes to allow a few questions or we'll move directly to

1608
01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:38,960
the forum.

1609
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:39,960
I'm available.

1610
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:45,280
I can stay on my side a few more minutes, definitely, if you want.

1611
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:50,000
I'm happy to continue.

1612
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:54,520
I am okay if we take maybe just one or two questions.

1613
01:59:54,520 --> 02:00:01,000
This is the part that after all of that, two-thirds of the way in, most of it was high level.

1614
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:09,520
Some of it was specific, like the 800 applicants, 30 to 35 ambassadors, the DAO will not have

1615
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:12,120
any part to play.

1616
02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:14,120
What else was key?

1617
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:15,240
Let's highlight that part.

1618
02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:22,560
Let's highlight the parts that were extremely helpful or gave us new information about the

1619
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:23,560
AMA.

1620
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:24,560
All right.

1621
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:29,440
So here, here's one part of it.

1622
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:34,040
That one.

1623
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:39,000
And anyone can propose their own.

1624
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:40,600
Cyril said later that was good.

1625
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:43,120
Look at this one.

1626
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:53,240
A little bit about will there be pressure to post?

1627
02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:54,240
No.

1628
02:00:54,240 --> 02:00:57,240
The answer was no.

1629
02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:58,240
All right.

1630
02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:06,240
So Cyril said being able to share as SIPs going on.

1631
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:09,480
Oh, that's Cyril said, this is not a job.

1632
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:10,480
You're not in balance.

1633
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:11,480
You choose.

1634
02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:12,480
You decide.

1635
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:13,480
That's important.

1636
02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:14,480
All right.

1637
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:15,480
What else?

1638
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:20,120
Who manages it?

1639
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:23,120
So it's going to remain in the hands of the DAO.

1640
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:30,920
Excuse me, the sandbox team and specifically the community management team.

1641
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:35,920
And of which Panda Pops and others are an existing member of that community management

1642
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:36,920
team.

1643
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:38,800
So they will be actually managing it.

1644
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:46,520
Hence, maybe the reason why they chose her to do this AMA hosting.

1645
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:52,920
So then in the future, the goals for ambassadors themselves to select people.

1646
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:57,120
So echoing what Seb said.

1647
02:01:57,120 --> 02:02:00,560
Okay.

1648
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:03,920
That Kelsey was head of marketing and was all my friends.

1649
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:08,780
That was good to know.

1650
02:02:08,780 --> 02:02:17,600
For attracts, they already went over that one quite a bit in depth elsewhere.

1651
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:19,600
How will the compensated be?

1652
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:21,720
You don't know.

1653
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:25,840
But the fact that there's going to be one, they already mentioned that in the Q&A before

1654
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:26,840
now.

1655
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:37,120
And ambassadors, not employees, they're contractors and kind of overlapping, but good.

1656
02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:40,760
All right, what else?

1657
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:45,960
What else did we talk about?

1658
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:48,960
Sandbox started in 2018.

1659
02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:56,120
And that was a good G whiz, but still that was good to know.

1660
02:02:56,120 --> 02:03:00,080
And we wanted to create a quantifiable way.

1661
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:01,080
Creating something structured.

1662
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:05,760
That was good to know.

1663
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:09,560
Why now?

1664
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:13,400
And the same stuff.

1665
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:16,800
So some new things, some new things that were good to know.

1666
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:21,400
All right, let's get to these tweet questions.

1667
02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:25,840
With the people asking limited to just one question each.

1668
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:32,480
Oh, the reason why I brought that up was because this AMA was mostly questions that had already

1669
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:34,520
been asked and answered on the forums.

1670
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:37,080
It's kind of like a rehash AMA.

1671
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:43,400
Then these are the new questions that have been asked since the AMA started.

1672
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:47,200
So we've been going for 47 minutes in this Twitter space.

1673
02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:49,960
And with eight minutes left, they open it up for questions.

1674
02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:53,840
But person can only ask one question a piece.

1675
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:58,640
So I meant, do you have some time to not?

1676
02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:03,960
I'm pretty literal when it comes to NMA is supposed to be about people asking you things.

1677
02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:06,480
And you answering them.

1678
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:09,040
That's not exactly what happened here.

1679
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:13,360
Hey, Seb, what's up?

1680
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:20,160
To be able to stay on the tail end of of reacting to the AMA on SIP 11 that happened on Friday

1681
02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:22,160
for the Ambassador program.

1682
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:26,640
Oh, yeah, of course.

1683
02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:31,160
And I don't know, Panda, if you want to read them off, I guess we have like the tweet format.

1684
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:34,200
So I think we have a feed of maybe some people asking questions.

1685
02:04:34,200 --> 02:04:35,200
All right.

1686
02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:36,200
Let me for that.

1687
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,560
I'm currently I have to connect on my mobile.

1688
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:42,640
So the first question comes from I can kind of get started as well.

1689
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:45,600
And as you do that, G is us.

1690
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:50,400
You asked would love if we could share the code of conduct or notes from it.

1691
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:51,400
Absolutely.

1692
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:52,400
Yeah.

1693
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:59,040
Happy to publish in the forum and maybe in our medium, the Ambassador code of conduct

1694
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:04,600
so that everyone has visibility into it and want to reinforce that it's not going to be

1695
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:09,160
there to say to shape like a view or force any anything.

1696
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:16,200
It's more so just a we want ambassadors to be productive, communicative and like active

1697
02:05:16,200 --> 02:05:24,560
participants in the community and be productive and constructive in the way that they communicate.

1698
02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:26,600
Let's see what else we have.

1699
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:28,840
I've grabbed a question here.

1700
02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:35,120
So Daddy asks when are the results of the new set of ambassadors coming in?

1701
02:05:35,120 --> 02:05:37,760
They want to know because they applied.

1702
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:39,440
Yeah.

1703
02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:41,140
Good question.

1704
02:05:41,140 --> 02:05:45,640
So as I mentioned, we've had over 800 probably well over that.

1705
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:48,360
At this point, that number might even be a bit dated.

1706
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:54,480
And the process is that our internal community team reviews the applications, tries to gauge

1707
02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:59,040
like the fit of the person as well as for the tracks that they indicated that they'd

1708
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:00,440
be interested in.

1709
02:06:00,440 --> 02:06:05,360
And then we try to set up actual interviews with each and every candidate that's interested

1710
02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:09,540
that passes that initial on paper application test per se.

1711
02:06:09,540 --> 02:06:15,040
So to be honest, it is a really time intensive process because we think ambassadors are it's

1712
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:19,020
important to get ambassadors who are going to be representatives right.

1713
02:06:19,020 --> 02:06:24,400
And so I can't frankly guarantee like here's the turnaround time that you're going to be

1714
02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:25,720
heard back from.

1715
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:29,040
But just trust that your application will be reviewed.

1716
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:32,960
And if you're deemed an immediate good fit for this initial batch, we're kind of thinking

1717
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:35,060
about this program in a phased rollout.

1718
02:06:35,060 --> 02:06:40,240
So we're trying to get to the first set of ambassadors for each different track as well

1719
02:06:40,240 --> 02:06:43,920
as migrating some of our existing ambassadors into the program.

1720
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:45,680
And then we're going to get to everyone else.

1721
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:50,020
So trust that your application will be reviewed, that you will be reached out to if we're ready

1722
02:06:50,020 --> 02:06:56,000
to do interviews from a timeline perspective, like to be honest and not to kind of like

1723
02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:58,400
pre commit to something we can't keep.

1724
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:01,240
I don't know how long it'll take, but the team.

1725
02:07:01,240 --> 02:07:07,200
So he doesn't know.

1726
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:09,280
Answer the question is he doesn't know.

1727
02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:14,360
He is spending hours and hours every single week dedicated to reviewing the applicants.

1728
02:07:14,360 --> 02:07:18,720
Great answer.

1729
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:24,560
I have found probably maybe this be sort of like the last one or second to last one.

1730
02:07:24,560 --> 02:07:26,560
This is by backspace.

1731
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:31,920
So would it be better if some of the ambassadors can work and assessed by the country managers

1732
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:32,920
in their country?

1733
02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:37,400
And it would be more relevant for the single centralized program manager.

1734
02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:42,840
They also said that they believe IRL meetings or events engaging with the community is important

1735
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:46,160
to which I do agree with.

1736
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:49,440
Can you answer any of those?

1737
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:53,720
I can answer the first part and maybe let Seb answer the second.

1738
02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:55,920
So that's a really good question and a really good point.

1739
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:57,480
It is an interesting question.

1740
02:07:57,480 --> 02:08:01,160
We actually we will be having ambassadors and you know, it's something I should have

1741
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:02,160
raised prior.

1742
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:06,200
The ambassador program as a whole is a single consolidated program.

1743
02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:10,160
But within it, we effectively have ambassadors who will be considered part of like the global

1744
02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:14,520
team and we will have ambassadors that are considered as part of a regional team of ambassadors.

1745
02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:18,480
And so in the different countries where we have strong local presences, whether that's

1746
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:25,160
Korea, Japan, Thailand, Turkey, India, et cetera, we do have local country managers,

1747
02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:30,920
as you pointed out, and those regional teams will be responsible for managing those, quote

1748
02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:36,260
unquote, regional ambassadors who potentially have a localized audience, potentially speak

1749
02:08:36,260 --> 02:08:39,020
in the native tongue, have local initiatives, et cetera.

1750
02:08:39,020 --> 02:08:44,800
And so we absolutely will be making use of our regional teams and country managers to manage

1751
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:49,000
ambassadors who are specific to a particular region.

1752
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:50,000
So really good point.

1753
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:51,000
I'm glad you asked it.

1754
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:52,720
And that is the plan.

1755
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:56,080
For the second part, maybe I'll let you weigh in here, Seb.

1756
02:08:56,080 --> 02:09:02,000
But I think the question was around it'd be amazing to have IRL events and meetups and

1757
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:04,680
things like that for ambassadors in the different regions.

1758
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:08,680
And I know that's something that you've both attended and supported.

1759
02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:10,760
So maybe you can speak to this.

1760
02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:11,760
Absolutely.

1761
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:19,720
I think it's quite common in the web-free space that not all the events are always organized

1762
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:25,800
only by the project themselves, but by just member of the community, ambassadors.

1763
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:31,040
We've seen that typically with board ape, with buggy penguins, for example, they are

1764
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:37,000
for communities, or they're all in Thailand or in Japan, with members elected by the community

1765
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:43,320
that drive those very simple dinner, but really cool at the same time and very friendly.

1766
02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:45,960
And I love to support that even more at Sandbox.

1767
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:48,280
I know people want to do it.

1768
02:09:48,280 --> 02:09:50,640
Sometimes they ask us for some sponsoring budget.

1769
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:54,960
Most of the time we've granted that budget directly at Sandbox.

1770
02:09:54,960 --> 02:10:00,320
It was mostly a decision coming from the marketing team and myself.

1771
02:10:00,320 --> 02:10:06,240
And from now on, I think we should even hopefully give even more autonomy so they don't even

1772
02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:12,040
have to, they can do that naturally without having to wonder if yes, will I receive the

1773
02:10:12,040 --> 02:10:14,520
budget to achieve that.

1774
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:19,240
One of the previous SIP was already going into that direction.

1775
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:23,080
It had a majority of yes, but unfortunately didn't reach the quorum.

1776
02:10:23,080 --> 02:10:32,160
But that's what we wanted to do at those major conferences, which are token 2049 in Singapore

1777
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:40,200
and the upcoming events in Thailand this year with DEFCON 7, the big Ethereum conference.

1778
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:45,200
And I think it included all the global activation.

1779
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:51,760
But probably if this gets voted on, we hope ambassadors could run them as well, directly

1780
02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:54,480
where they want at different scales as well.

1781
02:10:54,480 --> 02:11:03,120
It can be a simple dinner with 10, 20 members, a pizza and beer event with maybe 50 members

1782
02:11:03,120 --> 02:11:06,880
and some swag and t-shirts to educate creators.

1783
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:12,560
You see that a lot on social media if you follow Sandbox with some communities and it

1784
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:23,560
should go on and grow.

1785
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:26,680
I think we are probably now up time.

1786
02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:34,480
Once again, anybody that does have any questions, they can bring them to the forum to discuss

1787
02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:40,200
the SIP over there and have any of your questions answered over there.

1788
02:11:40,200 --> 02:11:46,920
Don't forget to go visit the Sandbox DAO, go have a look at SIP 11, have a read of it.

1789
02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:53,000
Make sure to vote regardless of what you are voting, whether that's a yes or if you have

1790
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:54,000
a question.

1791
02:11:54,000 --> 02:12:04,160
That's the end.

1792
02:12:04,160 --> 02:12:10,760
So I had a lot of mixed thoughts after I listened to this for the first time.

1793
02:12:10,760 --> 02:12:15,520
I didn't know whether or not I supported the SIP or didn't.

1794
02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:19,880
I'm still kind of in that.

1795
02:12:19,880 --> 02:12:20,880
Thank you.

1796
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:21,880
Have a good rest of the day.

1797
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:26,960
Have a good weekend and looking forward to see the results of your voting.

1798
02:12:26,960 --> 02:12:31,480
And remember, have a good morning, afternoon, evening, wherever you are in the metaverse.

1799
02:12:31,480 --> 02:12:44,160
We will see you next time.

1800
02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:46,480
I think I know I want to vote now.

1801
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:53,520
I'm at the point where there's so much disagreement with the current ambassadors, but I don't

1802
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:56,160
want to stand in the way of the improving of it.

1803
02:12:56,160 --> 02:13:02,000
I'm going to probably abstain so that I can commit to the quorum.

1804
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:06,680
I'm not voting yes because there's too many ambassadors who don't appreciate this new

1805
02:13:06,680 --> 02:13:11,140
direction and there are ambassadors that I respect.

1806
02:13:11,140 --> 02:13:18,280
Too many voices that this SIP, this AMA didn't really answer the tough questions.

1807
02:13:18,280 --> 02:13:23,240
It didn't really engage at the level that I expected it to for an AMA.

1808
02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:27,880
It was more of like a public release statement.

1809
02:13:27,880 --> 02:13:32,840
And so there wasn't much back and forth, which would be expected for a Dow discussion.

1810
02:13:32,840 --> 02:13:38,160
And so that didn't convince me to vote yes.

1811
02:13:38,160 --> 02:13:46,320
I'm not going to vote no because I believe in the glass half full approach on this, that

1812
02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:52,480
if we approve, if the SIP gets approved, then they can iterate on its success and they can

1813
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:53,480
do better.

1814
02:13:53,480 --> 02:14:01,720
They did say they want this to eventually be something where the Dow ambassadors are

1815
02:14:01,720 --> 02:14:03,880
responding to.

1816
02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:11,880
That was up somewhere up here.

1817
02:14:11,880 --> 02:14:14,560
That was their goal.

1818
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:17,120
And SIP did say that anyone could propose a better one.

1819
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:18,120
They really wanted to.

1820
02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:21,920
So that combined, I'm going to vote abstain.

1821
02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:28,560
I want to contribute to quorum, but I don't want to vote yes or no.

1822
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:31,960
Maybe I'll vote half yes, half no.

1823
02:14:31,960 --> 02:14:35,640
At the very least, I'm going to nullify my vote.

1824
02:14:35,640 --> 02:14:37,440
I just want to make sure it counts.

1825
02:14:37,440 --> 02:14:41,200
So that's where I sit on it right now.

1826
02:14:41,200 --> 02:14:58,960
All right, let's flip back over.

1827
02:14:58,960 --> 02:15:00,960
And now we're back.

1828
02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:04,920
So back at it again.

1829
02:15:04,920 --> 02:15:11,360
We went through one, two, three, four, five, six slides of reaction comments.

1830
02:15:11,360 --> 02:15:12,360
That's a lot.

1831
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:13,360
That's a lot.

1832
02:15:13,360 --> 02:15:21,760
All right, let's, it's outro out.

1833
02:15:21,760 --> 02:15:27,680
So future episodes we have, we're done with their reaction down here.

1834
02:15:27,680 --> 02:15:30,360
Reaction AMA.

1835
02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:35,760
Next we have the rules of Dow money with Joseph coming up on, on Saturday.

1836
02:15:35,760 --> 02:15:43,240
Then Sunday we have an interview with crypto Diplo for what will become SIP 13 for NFT

1837
02:15:43,240 --> 02:15:49,000
crafting and drops.

1838
02:15:49,000 --> 02:15:50,000
Sandbox Spaces.

1839
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:59,040
The sandbox spaces, steel discord, sandbox style forums, Twitter with hashtag sand fam,

1840
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:01,840
sandbox style, the sandbox game.

1841
02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:07,240
Then on Mondays, which is today, mocha verse hall later tonight, pulls on the block on

1842
02:16:07,240 --> 02:16:12,360
Saturday, coffee with cats and Monday through Friday, well members with natively digital

1843
02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:19,000
on Tuesday and San Fam Cafe Monday.

1844
02:16:19,000 --> 02:16:20,640
Let's find someone to raid.

1845
02:16:20,640 --> 02:16:25,760
We will be all finished for today.

1846
02:16:25,760 --> 02:16:27,800
See is there anybody who is online?

1847
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:29,200
I know Seb go was on earlier.

1848
02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:32,640
He's not on now.

1849
02:16:32,640 --> 02:16:36,200
And wizard assemble looks like the sandbox game.

1850
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:39,120
Nope, it's just me.

1851
02:16:39,120 --> 02:16:40,840
I'm the only one online right now.

1852
02:16:40,840 --> 02:16:42,880
All right, let's look.

1853
02:16:42,880 --> 02:16:47,640
Oh, the sandbox game is online with art.

1854
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:52,280
The panda pops and about is on.

1855
02:16:52,280 --> 02:16:54,160
So we're gonna raid Panda.

1856
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:57,720
And let's do that.

1857
02:16:57,720 --> 02:17:09,000
So the sandbox game little little raid button.

1858
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:13,280
Some reason it makes it a little bit more difficult now.

1859
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:15,360
The sandbox game.

1860
02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:18,760
Okay, so Ray has been created.

1861
02:17:18,760 --> 02:17:20,000
Thank you all for your time.

1862
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:27,400
My my ending thoughts are definitely that they came across as damage control more than

1863
02:17:27,400 --> 02:17:32,560
it did and a public release statement versus an ask me anything.

1864
02:17:32,560 --> 02:17:36,000
The prepared questions and the pre approved speakers made it to where it was a little

1865
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:44,220
bit difficult to say that this was really like a back and forth discussion.

1866
02:17:44,220 --> 02:17:47,080
It did answer some new questions.

1867
02:17:47,080 --> 02:17:51,160
I would have really liked to have done the podcast with them that where we could ask

1868
02:17:51,160 --> 02:17:52,640
this of them.

1869
02:17:52,640 --> 02:17:59,000
But two more 2048 more hours, go vote, make your voice heard, please.

1870
02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:00,000
And let's raid.

1871
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:23,920
See everybody.