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Alright, hello everyone.

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This is Sandal Podcast 11.

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And today we are covering SIP 10.

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So if you're with me so far, podcast number 11, SIP number 10.

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That's what we're on about today.

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I have with me Chips from the Hermit Crab studio.

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I'll have him introduce himself, his background, and his position.

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And SIP 10 is about blockchain events, funding blockchain events for various individuals

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and studios to attend for 2024.

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I think there are six of them if I'm not mistaken.

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The will, yeah six of them.

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Chips is not in his head.

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So we're going to talk about the normal stuff we talk about when it comes to SIPs.

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The who, what, when, where, why, and questions I've seen along the way that the community

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has asked for.

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Alright, scope of the talk.

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Today's a meet and greet with Chips and Hermit Crab studio.

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Chips is one of, if not the author of the SIP.

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So quite knowledgeable about it and can withstand all the interrogation that's about to happen.

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And then also this is about the SIP draft.

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So actually it's an active now.

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It was a draft.

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It is now an active SIP and it is currently up for voting.

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So please go there now or wait until the end of the podcast if you have questions you want

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answered.

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And if you're in the chat now, please put your questions in the chat.

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There's a slide later on that we have before we stop, which I will ask Chips if you put

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your questions in the chat.

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And yeah, it's there for voting now.

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Please take a gander at it.

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And let's go into introductions.

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So my name is Lancer, I'm the podcast host for Sandow, which is all about the sandbox

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DAO.

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We cover SIPs, we cover drafts, we cover different type of governance things.

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I've been interviewing a lot of different community members, advisory board members

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and special counsel.

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All it is is just a fact finding mission.

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I want to learn more about the SIP and the DAO and I want to bring you all along with

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me.

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So this is strictly for the Sand Fam to be better and to learn and to improve so that

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we can all contribute to the DAO in a way that's informed and makes sense to us.

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Because we some of it we don't even really know what we want out of the DAO yet.

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And this and the SIPs that Chips has brought to the table is one of the ways that we can

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do that.

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So I'm a landowner, I love running around with my WoW avatar in the sandbox.

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And I'm also, you know, I just stop there, you know, all of a sudden.

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Chips, welcome to the show and please introduce yourself.

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Thank you for having me Shane.

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Well, I'm super happy to be here.

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Obviously, I'm not the one who were behind of the SIP, just the one working on the backstage

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to make sure that all that we have regarding hermit crab on this SIP will be right in place.

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I know that we have several other companies with us.

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This is obviously an idea of a group of people and a group of companies that are interested

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in it.

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So that said, I'm the business manager of hermit crab.

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Hermit crab is one of the biggest developers of the sandbox.

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We have over 100 lands on it.

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And we've been working hard on to promote the brand to have games like the walking dead

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or people of crypto and other...

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Love that one, by the way.

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Well known experiences.

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So I hope I'm here to get your answers that you're looking for and have a lot of fun talking

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with you, Lancer.

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Thank you.

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And which walking dead did you all make?

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I would say that everyone.

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All of them.

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So the Alexandria one and the road and the tower.

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Wow.

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I like the Alexandria.

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It's a good one.

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Again, although I'm in the game industry, it's been more than 20 years and I've been

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working with this.

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It's been a while.

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I usually there are several projects that were already made when I get there.

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I know that we've been working with the walking dead and we have a few experiences.

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We have, as I mentioned, the people of crypto, the Irish pub and so many others.

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That one was awesome.

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I love that one too.

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And I don't know if it's out or not, but anyway, we have the Lisbon surrealism and so many

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other experiences that I like so much.

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Even the Maradona one that I think it's super cool, which tells the whole story of Maradona

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from the soccer player since he was born till he died.

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Maradona extension?

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That's the one that I like the most.

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So we have a lot of things going on on sandbox.

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And as I mentioned, as I said, it's one of the coolest things that we have at Hermit

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Crab and I'm really proud of it and the whole team.

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Good.

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I have it up on stream for everyone to take a look at.

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We have Hermit Crab studio is right next to the Invincible and that is just north of

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zero, zero.

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Oh, very cool.

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Sportsland.

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I would say that the sports lands is the place that we have.

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We just had the Olympics from Cope Cope C.O.B., which is the Brazilian Olympic Committee.

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So we have all the things that bringing Brazilians to those lands and having fun with Jenga,

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which is the tiger, the mascot of the experience.

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And that's our main goal to bring new brands and new experiences, new people to the to

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the sandbox.

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And definitely some heavy hitters that I've played a number of times in my sandbox career.

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The surreal Lisbon and Walking Dead and the Irish pub.

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I think I like that one a lot.

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That was a good one.

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So thank you.

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Welcome.

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And disclaimer.

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This disclaimer is neither chips or I represent the sandbox game or the sandbox foundation.

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We are not your financial or legal advisors and nothing we say is to be taken as financial

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or legal advice.

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True.

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True for you, too, Sips chips.

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Absolutely.

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Oh, all right.

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Scoreboard.

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So we have two Sips and Draft, the Sandbox Academy Philippines by Baggo.

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Mark as he as he calls himself.

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And we will be doing EPSCO with him later on on Wednesday.

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Sandbox Ambassador program.

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And then the two that are open for voting.

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One is Sip number nine, which is the NFT collection with Arthmoord.

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And then the one we have on today with chips is the blockchain events in Asia and Latin

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America.

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That brings us to seven Sips approved total.

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And in the next 14 days, that will turn into nine Sips, approved or disapproved, whichever

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one it goes.

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Hopefully approved.

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Checkbox.

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The checkbook.

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We're currently sitting at 13 percent of the 15.5 million Sand.

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We spent one point nine million of all the Sips that have been approved thus far.

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And if we approve all the Sips currently on the table, it'll go up to 20 percent as in

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two point eight million Sand.

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So that's the that's the accounting of it.

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All right, chips, you ready?

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Yeah.

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Just shooting.

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If you go to the Sandbox website, you'll see new Sips for voting here.

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Looks like this.

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And this is where you can either join the discussion that we're having that we're about

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to have now or vote.

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And please give it a look or wait until the end of the podcast if you have your questions

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that you want answered.

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So number one, chips, how did this come about?

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As far as I know, what happened was we do every year an event called Brazil Game Show,

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which is the second.

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We as in hermit crab.

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We as hermit crab do the event, a Brazil Game Show, and is the second largest B2C, the business

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to to call.

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Usually we say B2C and I forgot what's the C stands for.

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But it is the consumer business to consumer event in the world just after China Joy.

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But what was the largest one you said?

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China Joy.

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China Joy.

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If I know why.

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If I know why.

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No, no, no.

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J-O-Y.

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I was filling it.

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And we've been doing well so far.

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And since we are one, as I mentioned before, we are one of the biggest developers of the

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We thought that it would be interesting for the sandbox to be part of this for us to set

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a landmark there.

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And we've been we saw the documentation and the presentation of the sandbox that mentioned

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that they only had like 6% or less.

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Sorry for the strong word.

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But that's something.

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And it's horrible for horrible for us since we are hermit crab, one of the biggest developers

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of this and we are investing on this platform.

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We have a lot of land in there.

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It's important for us to spread the word and make bring more people to the sandbox and

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bring more people to create new wallets and everything like that.

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So when we were doing this, we figured that there were other companies doing small, smaller

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events all over the world, and we decided to pack it up altogether and do one sip to

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everyone.

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I do believe that the main thing that I figured on this is that usually the events that we

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do with the sandbox and with Dalles and with blockchains in general are block chain events,

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which is something that I just don't get it.

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We are selling tires to tire sellers instead of going to the car manufacturers.

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And that's the kind of stuff that since the sandbox is a game platform, a metaverse or

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whatever you call it, the best place to be is in a place that is a game event.

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And since we have like 300,000 people there, actually this year is expected 330 something.

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That's the place to be.

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Thousand?

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330,000 people?

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330,000 people.

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And usually when we're talking about a blockchain event, we're talking about 2000 people, 5000

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people, tops 10,000 people.

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So that's something that I don't get it, but maybe you can explain to me how this works,

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Lancer.

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Why people do this kind of stuff.

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Like they do a bank event to bankers instead of to the public in general.

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Who's the one that will be opening a bank account?

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I don't get it.

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They do it just with the bankers?

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And there's a lot of those.

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Like we are a bank and we are building an event just for the bankers.

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Probably because from where I'm sitting, the B2B aspect, the business of business.

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I think that's why they do it because the conversation is different between two banks

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and a bank and a person or a bank and a...

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I think that's why.

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But that's the kind of stuff that we are trying to change and bring to the table.

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The consumer, the people that will have fun and will talk about and say, well, I tried

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something different on this event.

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Usually people talk about PlayStation, Xbox and Switch and whatever.

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And I saw something different.

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I saw something else.

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And that's what I'm trying to bring to the table.

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Got it.

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And so this being a big business to consumer video game event, when...

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So you all do this every year and so because the DAO came about where there are budgets

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for this sort of thing, you saw that your attendance could be covered under a budget

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within the DAO.

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Actually, it's something just to...

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Again, we are a big investor to the DAO.

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So for us, it's really important for us to make it bigger.

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Every time that we make everything bigger, it's good for everyone.

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So that's our main concern and the main expectation, I would say, for this event.

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But I'm talking specifically about Brazil Game Show.

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We know that there are other events on this SIP and they are also important.

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It's something that obviously the companies that are behind this event should talk about

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it.

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But I'm stepping forward just to talk about this because I think it's the biggest one.

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Well, as you are, you are the one who ended up responding.

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So I will make you the point of contact for all of them as much as you're able to answer

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for and that's the best we can do.

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All right.

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So how much...

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So are you yourself the SIP author?

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No, no.

253
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As far as I know, there's no such thing as a SIP author.

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I know that it should be, but I was pretty much brought together.

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If you're the one that knows all about the Brazil Game Show, and as I mentioned before,

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I'm in the gaming industry for 20 years.

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So I've seen...

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Since the first Brazil Game Show, I went to Game Developers Conference in San Francisco.

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It's 2010.

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So it's been a while that I'm in the game industry.

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So I was the one responsible for taking care of this area.

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But it's something that is a gathering of all the people that are looking for an event

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and bringing things together.

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So I think that I should...Hermit Crab is obviously one of the authors of this, but

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it's gathering all the companies like Monkey, Luffy, and Duat and iGregg all together.

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So if there's anyone who's signing it at the end of the day, I must say that I'm not 100%

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who should be this person.

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I just understand that.

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Let's work our way backwards then.

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Who submitted it to Serial's team?

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I did my part.

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We opened Google Docs with everything and put it together, all the events and added every

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single company beat by beat.

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Got it.

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And because it was a Google Doc, you can all kind of contribute your portion.

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Exactly.

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All right.

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Got it.

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So you from Hermit Crab, Monkey D Luffy, I know he's in the Discord, but what was his

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role in this?

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I must say, I know this will sound odd, but I'm not the one who knows any of the other

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companies or other events.

283
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Okay.

284
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Sorry for that.

285
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It's okay.

286
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Was there a central coordinator here or did you all just were you given the link and then

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go get around?

288
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Who gave you the link?

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Mateos, who's the CEO of the company.

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Mateos.

291
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Okay.

292
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Do you know where he got the link from?

293
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Yeah, he was obviously talking with Serial.

294
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Got it.

295
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Okay.

296
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So Serial then created it and then handed it out to all the people who have a part to

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play.

298
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Okay.

299
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So that's something that I have.

300
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All right.

301
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So, okay.

302
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Got it.

303
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I was wondering how that coordination happened.

304
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So Serial created the SIP in Google Docs and I wouldn't say that Serial created it.

305
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I'm just saying that.

306
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Serial's team then.

307
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Yeah.

308
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Someone on Serial's team created it because you didn't create it.

309
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Someone did.

310
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Yeah.

311
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And distributed to the SIP stakeholders.

312
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Yeah.

313
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All right.

314
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All right.

315
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Nope.

316
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That makes sense.

317
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So what did you know Monkey?

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What's his connection?

319
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No.

320
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I'm sorry.

321
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I just said because they are mentioned on who are the key players of this SIP.

322
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I Greg B. What and making the Finhermitch crap.

323
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I was just reading this.

324
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Okay.

325
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Yeah.

326
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He I don't I don't see any.

327
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He did respond to me but he didn't identify where he's from.

328
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I have to ask him because I saw I've been seeing him in discord but he must be part

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of something.

330
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All right.

331
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So I know.

332
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So Smobler is a part of this.

333
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Smobler, whoever the Smobler rep is.

334
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All right.

335
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Who else do we have represented?

336
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So Hermit Crab, Smobler.

337
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You know who the other people are?

338
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Nope.

339
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And as far as I know all the other events I think they are all in Asia.

340
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So we are far away from them and and doing different things that we saw that had a match

341
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at the end of the day.

342
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Okay.

343
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Because we are all talking about events.

344
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All right.

345
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What I couldn't figure out is who who was attending.

346
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So in Singapore you have Loretta who was the last one we interviewed in number 10.

347
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She did mention that they had a part to play.

348
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So she's going to Singapore which makes sense because her studio is there.

349
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Then in Thailand the sandbox Thailand crypto mine groups or you know if we are hosting

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these four people to go.

351
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No definitely not.

352
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Every single one of those are hosting their own event.

353
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We won't be in any other events aside of Brazil Game Show.

354
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Okay.

355
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I'm asking other people as best you might not know but I need to ask anyways because

356
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that is the question.

357
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Okay.

358
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So we know Smobler is going.

359
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I can't tell who else is going.

360
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So just Smobler and Hermit Crab perhaps and then somehow Monkey you're involved in this.

361
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I'm pretty sure that this is in the very beginning of that the forum there that future futuristic

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venue.

363
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Here we have like every Singapore.

364
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One Singapore one Nova from Smobler and then we have the sandbox official site event named

365
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to be confirmed in September 18 in conjunction with token 2049.

366
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Oh wait number one Nova is their own studio.

367
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And then we have Hong Kong with Blocktober Hong Kong and then Thailand in Bangkok with

368
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epicenter of blockchain in a bench.

369
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Who's going to that one?

370
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That's awesome question.

371
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Yeah I can't tell who's going to Hong Kong.

372
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I can't tell who's going to the sandbox official site event.

373
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I can't tell who's going to Thailand.

374
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I know who's going to Brazil.

375
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You are Hermit Crab.

376
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That's the easy one.

377
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It'll get easier but this is the part that kind of tripped me and some other people up.

378
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I can tell.

379
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Okay so Nova.

380
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I figured this out.

381
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Nova Hermit Crab and Smobler and then some other mixture of people that I can't figure

382
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out is going to the rest of them.

383
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Okay and then we'll go unknown for the rest.

384
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So during choking.

385
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And somehow monkey Deluffy is in here.

386
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Okay and so that'll go bring us into question number four which is who are the key players.

387
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Kind of got that.

388
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Some people did respond to me.

389
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I Greg and do what they respond to me but I couldn't figure out who.

390
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Who they represented.

391
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Yeah.

392
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Those names ringing a bell for you at all.

393
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Let me answer you.

394
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Yes in what said and he got a lot of likes here.

395
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The what said that he's giving me more info but it didn't say where who he represented

396
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and I Greg talked about Asian events.

397
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So I assume I Greg's not part of her McRab.

398
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Is lead of TSB.

399
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I Greg is lead of TSB.

400
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As far as I know I could be completely wrong.

401
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When you say lead as in different than than Seb who's the CEO.

402
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:36,880
Yeah.

403
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,880
Yeah.

404
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Different like a regional something.

405
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Oh.

406
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Oh you know what.

407
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Maybe the head of of the Thailand region and the head of the.

408
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I think I see now.

409
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,040
OK so this one happening in Thailand.

410
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,360
This one happened in Bangkok.

411
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So and then this one happening in Hong Kong.

412
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So there must be regional people assigned to this which is what sandbox has.

413
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,400
They have that regional.

414
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,560
Exactly.

415
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Ambassadors are actual leaders of that area.

416
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,280
OK.

417
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,280
Yeah.

418
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So you're not really affiliated with them.

419
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,320
You don't really talk to them.

420
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,320
OK.

421
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I'm just a game company.

422
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I swear.

423
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:27,480
No I believe you.

424
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,480
I believe you.

425
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,600
You're unfortunately chips.

426
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You're the only person I can ask right now.

427
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,200
All right.

428
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,200
All right.

429
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That I don't have all the answers that you might be expecting.

430
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So right.

431
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,920
We'll work through it.

432
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:53,920
So so Brazil event permit crab studios and we have Singapore event small blur.

433
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Then we have Hong Kong event.

434
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Don't know.

435
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And we have Thailand event.

436
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,800
Don't know.

437
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,960
Then we have.

438
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,040
Was it Bangkok.

439
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,040
Bangkok OK.

440
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,000
We have Bangkok event.

441
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,400
Don't know.

442
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,840
And I think that's it right.

443
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Singapore.

444
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,320
October Hong Kong Thailand meme fest.

445
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,320
Where is that.

446
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,680
Yeah I guess I found what I was looking for here.

447
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,800
Brazil 2049.

448
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,600
We have talking 2049.

449
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:40,360
October Hong Kong Thailand block chain meme fest digital dreamland.

450
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:42,160
Yeah that one was that one.

451
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,160
There's a link here.

452
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Look at the link.

453
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Nine cat digital.

454
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:53,400
It looks like it's in.

455
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Thailand I guess.

456
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Somewhere in time.

457
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So another Thailand event.

458
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Maybe that is Thailand.

459
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,000
I can't tell that.

460
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Not your fault but so this is a little bit hard to read sometimes.

461
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:14,360
We are doing the best we can.

462
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I know I know you are.

463
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,800
I know you are.

464
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All right.

465
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So at the very least.

466
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We know Singapore.

467
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That one's easy to see.

468
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The side event at token 2049.

469
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OK.

470
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Let's say token 2049.

471
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,840
Don't know but maybe the TSB team.

472
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Let's say.

473
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And then Hong Kong which is Blocktober.

474
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,040
OK.

475
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I'm going to keep trying.

476
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,080
All right.

477
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:58,080
So we're funding each team to go to these different events to do different stuff like

478
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booths.

479
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Different user acquisition costs.

480
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And I will get we'll get into your portion because I'm assuming that you can't speak

481
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for the rest of them but.

482
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I'm sorry for that.

483
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,240
That's OK.

484
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,440
Let's say OK.

485
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,880
I think I think I'm good there.

486
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:22,400
So somehow I Greg know what and Monkey D Luffy are involved in this because they responded

487
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,780
like they knew what was happening.

488
00:27:24,780 --> 00:27:30,240
And then individuals of some kind and then chips from hermit crab.

489
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,240
All right.

490
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,240
All right.

491
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,480
I think I think we're good.

492
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,680
We are figuring this out.

493
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,680
All right.

494
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,120
So let's do our next question.

495
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:47,520
How were the teams and individuals chosen to attend those events?

496
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,840
So let's speak just for you.

497
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,760
How were you all chosen to go for Brazil?

498
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:59,680
Actually we were we were we were already settling up for it for this.

499
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,280
We are we've been discussing with the event.

500
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,520
It's been a while.

501
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:10,880
And then because of that we we thought that we could bring together the Dow and sandbox.

502
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,720
That's just what happened.

503
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:20,260
As I mentioned we've been to Brazil Game Show for the last I would say seven years or so.

504
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And we've been growing.

505
00:28:21,260 --> 00:28:25,440
We usually bring big brands with us.

506
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,480
We work with Barcelona.

507
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,280
We work with Benfica from Europe.

508
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,840
Do you know the soccer teams?

509
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,320
I know I know ish.

510
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,360
I used to play soccer in high school but I haven't I haven't played since definitely

511
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:38,360
not like Mathews.

512
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,360
Yeah.

513
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,360
Mathews.

514
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,360
Mathews.

515
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,360
Yeah.

516
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:49,040
I know I was watching some of his highlights in his former years as a footballer.

517
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:55,240
I was a midfielder and he was a center back look like which we call a stopper in America.

518
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,200
Yeah I'm a left fielder.

519
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,200
You're left or lefty.

520
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,200
All right.

521
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,200
Left midfield.

522
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,200
Yeah.

523
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,760
And I'm a cornerback too.

524
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,760
Cornerback.

525
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,760
Gotcha.

526
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,760
Yeah.

527
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,760
Gotcha.

528
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:07,760
Not on soccer.

529
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,760
Yeah.

530
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,340
And in football.

531
00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:12,340
In football.

532
00:29:12,340 --> 00:29:13,340
Yeah.

533
00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:16,120
We do have American football here in Brazil.

534
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,400
We have several teams here.

535
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:26,000
We have a national football league from Brazil which we used to be called Tourneil touchdown

536
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,240
and back in the day I used to play there.

537
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,800
Oh you used to play American football.

538
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,800
Yeah.

539
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,800
Oh all right.

540
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,800
Okay.

541
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,800
That was unexpected right.

542
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,840
So a cornerback in American football.

543
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,840
Got it.

544
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,840
Yeah.

545
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,840
How about that?

546
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,080
And I'm a big fan of Houston Texas.

547
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,080
Houston Texas.

548
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,080
Okay.

549
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,840
I'm Jackson Jaguars myself.

550
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,640
I know they're not like great.

551
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,640
Yeah.

552
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Oh Houston Texas.

553
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,640
That's college isn't it.

554
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,640
So college.

555
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,360
What do you mean by that?

556
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,960
The Texans.

557
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,120
The Texans are there in NFL.

558
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:11,600
They are in the same branch that you have.

559
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,400
Dallas Cowboys and Indianapolis Colts.

560
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,400
Oh the Texans.

561
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,400
Right.

562
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,400
Right.

563
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,400
Okay.

564
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,400
Got it.

565
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,000
Show us how much I pay attention to football huh.

566
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000
Yeah.

567
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000
All righty.

568
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,000
Well that's that's cool.

569
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,200
Unexpected but very cool.

570
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,200
Yeah.

571
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,200
How many years did you play?

572
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,920
Sorry I've played from 2010 to 2015.

573
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,240
And was it like a like a recreational league or was it college or what?

574
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,240
No.

575
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,240
No.

576
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,240
It's national league.

577
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,240
It's national league.

578
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:53,640
Actually we have a we had a couple of NFL former NFL players here playing.

579
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,560
We had a few NCAA players playing here.

580
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:09,480
The main name would be Casey Frost which was not draft at the end of the day as cornerback

581
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,040
as quarterback at the NFL.

582
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,600
So he came to Brazil.

583
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:19,480
We have a few players that left our league to play in Canada and we have one of our players

584
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:26,680
that went to Miami Dolphins which was Douzão back in the day.

585
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:32,200
Back in the day he used to play when I was playing and he went to Miami Dolphins.

586
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,080
It's been like three four years ago.

587
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,080
Gotcha.

588
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,080
Huh.

589
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,080
So you played for the national.

590
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,080
The national.

591
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,600
Oh my gosh.

592
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,600
All right.

593
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,160
So you must be like 260 pounds full of muscle.

594
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,400
No I was way more fit back in the day.

595
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,240
Yeah.

596
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,240
Really fast.

597
00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:00,760
That's what we need for our DPs.

598
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,320
High jumping and fast players.

599
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,300
So way more skill based than any other thing.

600
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:11,200
But it's obviously nothing compares to NFL.

601
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,440
We have we even played.

602
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:20,960
I don't know if you know that but there is a world championship of football league with

603
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,400
teams from Japan, Germany, US, Canada.

604
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,880
No I did not know that.

605
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,840
Yeah in 2014 or 20.

606
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,840
Did we win?

607
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,840
Did Americans win?

608
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,840
No no definitely not.

609
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,840
Not that.

610
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Definitely not.

611
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,400
We got beat at our own sport.

612
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,400
All right.

613
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,400
No no no.

614
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,400
But we did win.

615
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:51,240
Yeah USA was the one that the final was Japan versus US and US won.

616
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:58,000
We were like in Brazil stayed in fifth place if I'm not mistaken.

617
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,720
But still I know that this is absolutely nothing.

618
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,720
That's okay.

619
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,720
No it's okay.

620
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,720
I like the detour.

621
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,720
I like the detour.

622
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,720
So but anyway.

623
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,400
So Hermit crab was already going to Brazil.

624
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,720
Yeah we were we are in Brazil.

625
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:22,760
We have this deals with soccer brands like Barcelona, Manchester City, Paris Saint-Germain,

626
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,560
Benfica from Portugal and Arsenal from England.

627
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,820
And this is something that we've been doing.

628
00:33:28,820 --> 00:33:36,120
And this was the right time since we had Maradona just released in the sandbox and we were part

629
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:45,680
of this of the sandbox and we got a few prizes last year from the from the event that were

630
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:52,880
hosted in Singapore for sandbox as one of the best experiences that there were in the

631
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,880
sandbox.

632
00:33:53,880 --> 00:34:00,600
So we thought this was a good moment to get to be there and to push forward this in Latin

633
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:06,140
America since again since we know that there are not that many people there.

634
00:34:06,140 --> 00:34:09,880
But obviously there's some costs to build a booth.

635
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:16,920
And the good thing is that usually when you bring a brand from is that is from abroad

636
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,320
usually is way more expensive to do this kind of stuff here in Brazil.

637
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:28,300
So what we thought is we can get there as a Brazilian company which can make this much

638
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:35,280
less expensive and make this a good deal for all of us.

639
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,840
And so how how were you all chosen?

640
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,480
You already kind of answered.

641
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,080
Here's what I'm trying to ask.

642
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,560
Was there like a meeting where you all got together and and hermit crab said, all right,

643
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,880
I'm taking we're taking Brazil because we're already in Brazil and that sort of stuff that

644
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,620
happened.

645
00:34:55,620 --> 00:35:02,760
As far as I know, what happened was hermit crab decided that we wanted to do this.

646
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,320
We wanted to go with the SIP.

647
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:11,940
And then since we are doing this, a SIP for the events, other companies that were already

648
00:35:11,940 --> 00:35:19,960
talking about this decided that, well, we can put everyone together in the same thing

649
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:25,100
instead of doing one SIP after the other all about events.

650
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:29,720
So that's that was the main idea.

651
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:35,680
We were I would say that we were the tip of the spear and and then the others came along.

652
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,800
So it started first with Mateus.

653
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,400
Yeah, so it started first with Mateus and Cyril's team.

654
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,840
And then because it involved hermit crab studios, other studios said, hey, we want to do this

655
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,840
as well.

656
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,600
And then they contributed their portion.

657
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,600
Exactly.

658
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Okay.

659
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,600
Okay.

660
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,200
So they came to it with this is the one we want to go to.

661
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,200
This is the one we want funded.

662
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,200
All right.

663
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,200
All right.

664
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Got it.

665
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:11,720
Added themselves to the SIP to create a combined blockchain 2024 events proposal.

666
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:12,720
Got it.

667
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:13,720
Exactly.

668
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:14,720
Got it.

669
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:16,480
No, makes sense.

670
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,520
Thank you, chips.

671
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,520
Thank you.

672
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,960
That that clears that part up.

673
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,520
Still don't know who's going to what.

674
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,680
But you know what?

675
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,880
We can worry about that.

676
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,680
I'll just keep asking questions in the proposal.

677
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,720
And that's probably the question I asked them is, who is going to these other ones that

678
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:35,720
we that you and I did not able to figure out?

679
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:39,040
Thank you for your patience on that.

680
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,600
I appreciate you being on board about it.

681
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,400
As I mentioned before, we go live.

682
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,840
I'm here to help and I'm here to answer questions that I can't answer the other ones that I

683
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,160
don't know what what's going on.

684
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,080
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

685
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,080
That's OK.

686
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,080
That's all right.

687
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,800
We'll do the best we can.

688
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,800
All right.

689
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,720
So is the 94.

690
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:02,720
So all right.

691
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,640
Now, now that I know that I need to break that down in my head.

692
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,040
So it's not 94,000 for everyone.

693
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,840
You all came up with your own proposal amounts.

694
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,440
Yes.

695
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,440
In our case, we are talking about 35K.

696
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,720
Yeah.

697
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,320
For the for the Brazil portion.

698
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:26,800
OK, before we get into the 35K on detour, is is the are these expenses?

699
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:32,480
A since you said you're already going because you're going to get funded, if you get funded

700
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,920
and the proposal passes, will you then go?

701
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,760
For actually, let me think about this.

702
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,320
Thanks for a second.

703
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,880
So the question is, is if it's going to be paid through the Dow, is this a Dow specific

704
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,440
pursuit or?

705
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:55,480
OK, so if you do get funded in the 34,000, you're able to receive that from the Dow.

706
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,760
Does this become a hermit crab studio and you're going to change your focus to a Dow

707
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,760
specific thing or are you going to do what you already plan to do?

708
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,200
But now you have funding from the Dow.

709
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,800
You know, we're 100 percent on the Dow.

710
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:17,040
If we are sponsored, the idea is to like, let's make some we, as I mentioned, we we

711
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,600
usually work with brands.

712
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,480
So think think think it like this.

713
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,860
If we are working with Barcelona, you will find a Barcelona booth.

714
00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:29,720
If we're working with the Dow, you'll find a Dow booth.

715
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:31,240
We are just part of it.

716
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:34,600
We are just a partner on this one.

717
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,400
It's powered by a hermit crab.

718
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,760
But at the end of the day, this is the Dow.

719
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:47,960
You'll see a black and blue booth, 100 percent talking about the Dow, the sandbox and how

720
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,100
to make your account and make it work and make it happen.

721
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:58,600
We have no interest aside of making this bigger, making this better.

722
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:05,760
OK, because at the end of the day, we're we're gaining on this.

723
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,760
Because we are part of it.

724
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,680
Yeah, because you're you're there.

725
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,600
You'll see hermit crab studio powered by hermit crab studio.

726
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,960
But you'll be speaking on you'll be speaking for the Dow.

727
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaking about the Dow, you'll be advocating for the Dow.

728
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,280
Yeah, 100 percent.

729
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,280
All right.

730
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,320
Are you talk to me more about that?

731
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,040
How does let's start from the beginning.

732
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:31,240
Last year, how did how did you how did the event unfold for hermit crab studio?

733
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:34,360
What were you there doing last year?

734
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,920
Last year, we had their Benfica merge, the game from Benfica, the game from Barcelona

735
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,840
and the game from Manchester City.

736
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:51,000
So we had a booth with the back of it, 100 percent Barcelona and the two sides, one the

737
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,020
right side on Benfica and the left side on Manchester City.

738
00:39:55,020 --> 00:40:03,520
And we had computers and tablets so people could play, for example, if if not, if the

739
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:10,560
reporter from the TV from Portugal, SIP, if I'm not mistaken, he came there and then we

740
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,080
did an interview talking about the figure, talking about the game, how the game work.

741
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:22,520
And you said was that word the FICA Benfica Benfica team like Barcelona.

742
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:28,820
I can change the Barcelona the idea so you can let's say because it wasn't the team,

743
00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:36,260
but let's say a reporter from Spain came there to talk in Spanish about the game from Barcelona

744
00:40:36,260 --> 00:40:40,540
that were showcased in in the event.

745
00:40:40,540 --> 00:40:42,480
So we had the backdrop.

746
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,920
We were showcasing the game.

747
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,840
How did how did this work?

748
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,540
It was a card game with soccer.

749
00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:55,760
So we showed to the TV channels from Spain and we also showcase to the TV channels from

750
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,760
Brazil.

751
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:02,840
So we had the Brazilian TV channels, regular ones, and we were explaining how a company

752
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:09,920
in Brazil had partnership with a soccer team, a famous soccer team in Spain or in England

753
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,560
or in Portugal and how those games work.

754
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:20,320
So we were like explaining to to everyone, to all the reporters, to the press and all

755
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:26,720
that how this works and how a company that almost no one knows could have this kind of

756
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:28,240
deal.

757
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:31,160
So these weren't specific to sandbox.

758
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,320
These were these were other types of games.

759
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,200
Yeah, those are 100% games for mobile.

760
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,720
These mobile games.

761
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:41,400
OK, that hermit crab studio developed.

762
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,400
Yes.

763
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:48,320
It's important to remember that from hermit crab does games for the sandbox or fortnight

764
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,320
for Roblox.

765
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,320
Yeah, I saw that.

766
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,320
I saw that.

767
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,320
OK, so got it.

768
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,080
So we have a lot of options.

769
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:04,400
During Gamescom, let's say a few months, months ago, we had the COB event, Booth, that it

770
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,440
was 100% all about the Olympics.

771
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:16,800
And we have like Panini's stickers and all everything was about the Olympics.

772
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,920
So you have hermit crab powered by hermit crab.

773
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,920
But at the end of the day, all the all the tablets and everything that you see there,

774
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:30,160
it was about Roblox and the sandbox, how you were able to play these games in there.

775
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:38,000
And then for this year, the idea is to have like everything on a specific area of the

776
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:43,600
booth, all about the sandbox and the DAO and how this works and how you create your wallet

777
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,920
and how you enjoy the experience.

778
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,920
How do you find this?

779
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,920
OK, wait, pass, pass, pass, pass.

780
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,640
I'm trying to trying to keep along in my notes.

781
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,280
So this year, no, this is good.

782
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,280
No, this is great.

783
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,800
This is exactly what I needed to know.

784
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,440
So this year, I just need I just need to keep up with you.

785
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:08,320
We need to intend on doing everything related to the sandbox, the sandbox DAO, how to create

786
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,320
wallets.

787
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,320
OK, keep going.

788
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,520
I'm sorry I interrupted you.

789
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:19,440
No, how to enjoy the sandbox DAO, how to create a new wallet, how to play a game, how to find

790
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:25,280
a game that you heard of or if you have never heard of any of those games, we would have

791
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,280
our experience.

792
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,280
Just Term of Crest Studio games or any game?

793
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,160
I would say any game.

794
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:36,360
But the idea is obviously to showcase the games that we've done, because as you mentioned,

795
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,160
you love the games that we've done.

796
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,840
There's nothing better than any of them.

797
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,840
I do.

798
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,740
There are a lot of other games that I like, though.

799
00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:49,880
You just said that we had the best games ever made in the history.

800
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,240
That's exactly what I said.

801
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:57,000
So why would we change the showcase?

802
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,800
Irish probably does rank on to my top 10.

803
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,800
I'll give you that.

804
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,800
Yeah, OK.

805
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,040
Obviously, I'm joking, but I get you.

806
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:11,800
We have some cool experiences and the idea is just pretty much to showcase how fun can

807
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,880
it be and we will be obviously showcasing a few experiences that we know that are cool

808
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:26,000
to play and to enjoy and to have fun and give some prizes for whoever get there.

809
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,580
Just my opinion on this one.

810
00:44:27,580 --> 00:44:34,800
I noticed that some of the studios voted no and I'm willing to bet that part of and they

811
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,460
explained why in the snapshots.

812
00:44:36,460 --> 00:44:39,740
You can hover over their name and you'll see why they voted no.

813
00:44:39,740 --> 00:44:40,740
They can still change their vote.

814
00:44:40,740 --> 00:44:42,720
You can still convince them otherwise, by the way.

815
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:47,480
But in any case, I suspect that some of the reasons why the other studios voted no is

816
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:53,440
because they thought that perhaps Hermit Crab wouldn't represent them because you might

817
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,240
see them as competition.

818
00:44:56,240 --> 00:45:02,320
I don't know for certain, but I think that just for your consideration, that that might

819
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,300
help go over easy.

820
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:12,280
So let me get back to you thinking like that.

821
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,160
Usually as I mentioned, I'm in the game industry.

822
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,880
It's been a while.

823
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:24,620
Usually if you have, for example, a PlayStation, it's very unlikely that you will buy an Xbox,

824
00:45:24,620 --> 00:45:26,280
I would say.

825
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,480
You usually choose for a console to play and then you go with one of those.

826
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:40,160
But if you like racing games, there's no reason for you to buy one racing game and don't buy

827
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,800
another racing game, another type of racing game.

828
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:51,320
So if we have an experience at the sandbox that is all about adventure and let's use

829
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:58,800
the walking dead experience, for example, and there's another one that looks like that.

830
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,360
The person that is playing at the sandbox have no reason for just play this one that

831
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,520
is made from Hermit Crab and not the other one, because it's something that I like and

832
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:14,820
we are not competing, not one bit, because if the guy is inside of it, he can test any

833
00:46:14,820 --> 00:46:16,480
game that he wants.

834
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:24,700
So as long as I bring someone new to experience something new at the sandbox, then everybody

835
00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:30,760
is happy because I have no competition with any other company.

836
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,760
The only thing that I want is that someone from Latam to start playing at the sandbox

837
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,000
and play our experience or another experience.

838
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,040
And as long as we have more people there, it's good for everyone.

839
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,760
I'm glad you look at it that way.

840
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,760
That's good.

841
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,000
You said Latam, Latin America that you call Latam.

842
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Yeah.

843
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,000
OK.

844
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,000
OK.

845
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,880
I'm trying to know how to shorten that, so Latam is the better way to say it.

846
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,800
The thing is, since we're speaking Spanish, you'll hear me always speaking, since we're

847
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,600
speaking English, you'll hear me always saying Latam as we do in English.

848
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,920
Yeah, yeah, it's clear, it's OK.

849
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,920
It's all good.

850
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:10,920
It's all good.

851
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:19,120
Yeah, I'm learning Spanish, but my vocabulary is bad.

852
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,120
No problem.

853
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,080
We'll go with English and let's have it just fine.

854
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,680
There's no need to say Latam as we do in Portuguese.

855
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,400
And even then, you're from Brazil, so you speak Portuguese.

856
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,400
Exactly.

857
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,800
I think all I know is obrigado.

858
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,800
And that's it.

859
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,800
Yeah, no, it's great.

860
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,800
It's great.

861
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,520
Thank you for having me.

862
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,520
So we're finishing, right?

863
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,080
No, no, no.

864
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,040
Yeah, I'm kidding.

865
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:52,640
So last year, did you feature any sandbox games that you all built?

866
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,600
No, we were not able.

867
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,400
What we did was this year at the very...

868
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,760
There's a few events that sometimes we do.

869
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:08,360
We had one in Brasilia, which is the capital of Brazil, that we did have a few sandbox.

870
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:18,040
And last year at Gamescom Latam, at BGA, I was there showcasing a few experiences from

871
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,920
the sandbox.

872
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,200
And one of those were from Herbich Crab and the other one was not.

873
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,760
Okay, got it.

874
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:25,760
Again.

875
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:33,560
So this year, if you are funded, then it'll be all about the sandbox?

876
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,560
Yes.

877
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,560
Okay.

878
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:42,760
Give me an idea for what is the difference going to be between you promoting the sandbox

879
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,200
and you promoting the sandbox DAO?

880
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,360
What's that going to look like?

881
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:55,240
Well, the first thing is that one thing is that me at the BGA or someone else's booth,

882
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:58,440
just with one computer showcasing the sandbox.

883
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:06,400
Another thing is showcasing the whole thing, having a booth and making people understand

884
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:12,800
what a DAO is, what the sandbox is and the differences and making people, as I mentioned

885
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,160
before, making the wallet, for example.

886
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,940
This brings more...

887
00:49:18,940 --> 00:49:25,440
Make sure that we have more people in it and investing in it in a way.

888
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,080
That's how I see it.

889
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,120
And what part of your...

890
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,880
I guess, what are you going to be saying about the DAO?

891
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,280
I'm trying to get a sense for someone walks up to the booth, how much of it are they going

892
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,120
to see sandbox DAO?

893
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,360
How much are they going to see sandbox game?

894
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,760
What is the degree of their attention going to be?

895
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,400
Usually on this kind of event, what we do is, although this is a B2C event, there is

896
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,840
a lot of other developers, other companies that come along and want to understand, want

897
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,760
to know more about what's going on and how this is happening.

898
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,360
We do have a few meetings during this.

899
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:08,880
Those are the moments that we can promote the DAO and make sure that this is a good

900
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:16,640
moment to get into this DAO and have this support and work with it to make your own

901
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,840
game even if it's not working with the sandbox, for example.

902
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:30,080
This year, we had a few guys from Avalanche and another blockchain.

903
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,740
And I do believe that this is the kind of moment that you can evangelize someone else

904
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:39,460
to come to the DAO, if it makes sense to you.

905
00:50:39,460 --> 00:50:41,040
You lost me a little bit.

906
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,000
So can you rephrase that?

907
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,960
Can you say it a different way?

908
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,200
Yeah, sure.

909
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:57,280
I do understand that when you are in an event like that, if you can showcase not only to

910
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:04,480
the common public, being part of the DAO is important to understand, to be part of that

911
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:10,100
chain and be able to vote and do all the things that you can do in the DAO.

912
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:19,360
You can also talk with other companies that can also bring together new comers to the

913
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:29,240
DAO, new developers, a fresh pair of eyes on top of this new technology that not everybody

914
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,360
knows in Latam.

915
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,760
I think that this is the main thing to be considered, as far as I can see, like trying

916
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:42,960
to explain what a DAO is, because at the end of the day, most of those people have no idea

917
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:50,320
what a DAO is, what's the difference between the sandbox game and a DAO and how this works

918
00:51:50,320 --> 00:52:00,680
and how do you have your account and are able to vote for something if you have land or

919
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,760
if you have anything on this now.

920
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:11,000
So yes.

921
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,640
That sounds like a small portion of the event.

922
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,640
A small portion.

923
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:16,640
Yeah.

924
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,320
I don't know how to translate that.

925
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:27,660
I do understand what you said and I understand how do you see this as making different?

926
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:31,760
Maybe you can enlighten me and maybe I can change my strategy.

927
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,760
It would be super awesome.

928
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,240
You're the one that are super active at the Dell.

929
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:38,720
I'm not sorry.

930
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:39,720
It's okay.

931
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:40,720
It's okay.

932
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:41,720
It's okay.

933
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:43,880
I'm actually very I'm flattered that you asked that.

934
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,320
Thank you.

935
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,760
I've heard not only myself, but I've seen some of the other questions that they pose

936
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,380
and especially in the snapshot when you can see the reason why they vote no, some of them

937
00:52:55,380 --> 00:53:01,960
put things related to this, which is that if the DAO is giving them money, how much

938
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,400
of it is really going to be about the DAO?

939
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:10,440
How much of the booth is going to show Sandbox DAO as a banner like the like on the sandbox

940
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,880
DAO.com the big sandbox DAO logo?

941
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,360
How much is it going to feature the SIPs?

942
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:23,240
Like it will be a how to for a SIPs guide.

943
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:30,240
How much will it show our how many SIPs have been that have been approved thus far?

944
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:36,680
So we had the foundation now we have the budget and they also approve some for like the trading

945
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:42,600
pair and and what's it called?

946
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:43,600
Red Cross.

947
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,640
So the Red Cross, the one that just passed last week or the week before was the staking

948
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,560
plan budget.

949
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,280
And you're right.

950
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,940
A lot of people don't know what the DAO is.

951
00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:57,800
And I'll give it to you that I'm willing to bet at this gaming convention.

952
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,240
Very few probably do.

953
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:08,000
So the big question is, is what are you all going to do with the money to turn that around?

954
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:16,760
What can you do to show this is what a DAO is and integrate that into your your participation?

955
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,760
Shame on you.

956
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:23,100
You you you you you sort of asked me and then you turn back the question on me.

957
00:54:23,100 --> 00:54:24,100
But there's no problem.

958
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:26,120
I do understand what you're saying.

959
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,120
I didn't.

960
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,120
No, no.

961
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,400
That's not a problem.

962
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,720
I do understand what you're saying.

963
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:39,360
And I understand that what you're looking for is an answer more like as you mentioned,

964
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:44,300
I would bet that 99 percent of the people there are there have no idea what a DAO is.

965
00:54:44,300 --> 00:54:46,640
So we got to start with the basics.

966
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:55,800
We got to showcase how cool this is, how this works, why this exists.

967
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,840
And to do that, we need to be there.

968
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:04,600
We need to have people coming to the booth and people ready to explain in Portuguese

969
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:10,520
how this works, why this works and how cool this could be.

970
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,480
And as something different in the game industry.

971
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,240
And that's why I do believe that this is important to be done.

972
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:25,600
OK, maybe I should pledge my ignorance to how to do this the best way.

973
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:32,280
And I will be super happy if everyone from the community could give hundreds of ideas.

974
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,840
And I obviously have no problem to implement this at all.

975
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,160
OK, you know what?

976
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,480
I'll figure it out.

977
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:40,800
I'll answer your question because you're right.

978
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,440
I turned it back on you.

979
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,440
OK.

980
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,160
So are you looking at my stream right now or do you have the questions open?

981
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,240
I'm just looking at you, but I can do that right away.

982
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:56,600
OK, pop it up, pop up in the stream because I'm going to show you some things that if

983
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,440
I were in your shoes, how I would do this.

984
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,600
OK, where's my little this?

985
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,840
I live for this moment.

986
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,840
This is fun.

987
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:15,120
Showcasing everything that we need to know about the vision.

988
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,120
Yeah.

989
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,840
There you go.

990
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,520
So you see you see right now my stream.

991
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:26,040
So you have the bottom portion, which was your sip that you and the forums and then

992
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,240
the top portion, which is the website.

993
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:33,160
OK, so the actual website itself has a lot of stuff that you can create banners out of.

994
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,200
I don't remember the call, but they're like big, they're like big posters, but they are

995
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,600
they're really like flimsy made out of like paper or something like that.

996
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,520
So you can create banners, right?

997
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,560
A lot of this this website already has stuff that can easily create in banners.

998
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,120
And here's what I would hit.

999
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,680
It would be I'd have a banner that would show not you.

1000
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:59,520
Let's go under the about section, a banner that would show this the road map.

1001
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,560
I would have a banner next to it that would have the special counsel and the advisory

1002
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:04,560
board.

1003
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:09,320
And you could probably just copy paste this to the banner company to where they can create

1004
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,480
all the faces here.

1005
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,480
All right.

1006
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,440
So when people walk by, they're going to be like, there's a special counsel and advisory

1007
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:15,440
board.

1008
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,160
What in the world is that supposed to be?

1009
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:22,480
And and I bet you a number of them will will at least recognize someone, whether it be

1010
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:29,200
the founder of Ledger, the founder of Animoca, Seb, who is at every conference known to the

1011
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,200
world.

1012
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,880
He's like traveling all the time.

1013
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:37,600
And then they might even know because, you know, from Brazil, Mateus, you know, they'll

1014
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,840
be like, oh, my gosh, he's on the advisory board.

1015
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,120
What does that even mean?

1016
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,160
So there's your your quick Q&A session right there.

1017
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,720
The other one I noticed is I had on here.

1018
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:55,440
OK, so the budget, I would do a big old banner of this budget and on the website, it's under

1019
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:56,440
dashboard.

1020
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:03,160
So this right here, I would do a big old banner of this and that would immediately catch some

1021
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,160
eyeballs.

1022
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,720
Fifteen million of whatever sand is supposed to be.

1023
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:08,720
Same from the perspective.

1024
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:09,720
No idea.

1025
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:10,800
Fifteen million sand.

1026
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,480
What is that even supposed to be?

1027
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,400
So that those are the conversation starters.

1028
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,400
The remaining budgets kind of in the weeds.

1029
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:18,920
Probably wouldn't worry about that one.

1030
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,080
What else?

1031
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,080
Vision.

1032
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,720
This was this is one here.

1033
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:23,720
Vision.

1034
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,240
One community, many parts.

1035
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,160
I'd banner this whole thing.

1036
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,560
So you have and then you could banner the sandbox community map.

1037
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,080
This is a good picture.

1038
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,360
This website to me has all the marketing material.

1039
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:42,800
If you were to create, I don't know, free standing banners that were.

1040
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,800
Maybe three, three by whatever or whatever it might have to be.

1041
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:46,800
I get it.

1042
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:47,800
I get it.

1043
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:53,300
The stuff that would really catch people's attention, which is budget, the map.

1044
00:58:53,300 --> 00:58:57,600
And because you're already featuring the sandbox and the games like The Walking Dead, that

1045
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,000
kind of speaks for itself.

1046
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,360
But the Dow portion would be.

1047
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,400
Where's the ethics?

1048
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:05,400
Ethics down here.

1049
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,160
Now that that's too many words.

1050
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,920
So people just walk by that without even reading it.

1051
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:17,000
So these pictures, one, two, three, that might catch people's eye who are really interested.

1052
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,520
The dashboard, the numbers.

1053
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:27,240
So the 15 million sand and then the about which should show the faces of people that

1054
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,320
they may recognize in other spaces.

1055
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:36,840
I'd say if you had those three banners, that to me would signify that you are are there

1056
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:42,680
speaking with about the Dow and evangelizing it in the everyday conference for people just

1057
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,680
walk right by.

1058
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:44,680
Perfect.

1059
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,680
Did I answer your question?

1060
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,280
100 percent.

1061
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,640
And I must.

1062
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,960
The map itself, I think it's super cool.

1063
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:59,280
I think that the faces I wouldn't go with it because at the end of the day, we are getting

1064
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:06,200
we have we're having a B2C event and they might not know and they even might not care

1065
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:16,000
who's behind us unless it's Neymar or like Beyonce or Taylor Swift.

1066
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,400
But the the rest, I would say, like this budget.

1067
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,400
Sure.

1068
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,800
Yeah, I'll leave it to you on that one.

1069
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,960
And your your judgment.

1070
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,920
Something that I got it starts the conversation.

1071
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,920
Yeah, definitely.

1072
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:37,920
I would say that the map itself starts like great conversation.

1073
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,800
Why there is like a Snoop Dogg and a Paris Hilton or something like that.

1074
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:48,000
And and the walking dead stuff.

1075
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,960
And it should be like a wall of this.

1076
01:00:51,960 --> 01:01:00,440
And then somewhere the the the budget area that is I think it's super cool.

1077
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,560
So I'm with you 100 percent of this.

1078
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:09,360
So I won't put you on the spot in terms of how much you will or will not accept of what

1079
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,440
I just said.

1080
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,340
But in terms of no, no, 100 percent.

1081
01:01:14,340 --> 01:01:16,120
You can count on me.

1082
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,680
I'm up with you.

1083
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,240
I agree with you 100 percent.

1084
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:28,880
And that's what I what that's why I'm here to to before we started this off.

1085
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,080
Not life.

1086
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:34,920
Didn't I tell you that I'm here to be able to talk to people, understand and be part

1087
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,920
of it.

1088
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:36,920
So that's why I'm here.

1089
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,240
And I think this feedback is the reason that I'm here.

1090
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:46,680
And I'm grateful that you were able to actually answer the question and give me the feedback

1091
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:47,680
that I was looking for.

1092
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:53,560
And I think it's genius that we haven't seen this before.

1093
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,720
So I'm really, really glad that you.

1094
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:03,200
I would even I would even venture so far as to say one of them would be your sip.

1095
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:08,740
Like this right here, this website, like even the top portion with the bit with your some,

1096
01:02:08,740 --> 01:02:13,680
you know, maybe even five or eight out of 10 people won't even take a good look at this.

1097
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:18,800
But for anyone who does.

1098
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,680
And maybe you would stop here, like with the who, what, when we're by table, because the

1099
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:26,240
rest of it just gets into eyesores, that sort of stuff.

1100
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,520
Anything that evangelizes the Dow or starts the conversation.

1101
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:34,760
And if they did get into the conversation, you already have the visual aids.

1102
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:41,440
Even if it's like a binder of nothing but pictures of the website or the sips like the

1103
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,920
sort of thing that can facilitate your discussion with someone who has no idea what the Dow

1104
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,840
is and those visual aids that help them understand.

1105
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,960
It is to have the booth with the TVs.

1106
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,320
We usually do some have some TVs on the wall.

1107
01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:02,840
So those these usually showcase some reels and and something interesting about what we

1108
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,060
are showcasing.

1109
01:03:04,060 --> 01:03:11,000
So this is obviously the kind of stuff that we always do this this way, because we are

1110
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:16,000
there to sell something to to spread the word on top of something.

1111
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:22,320
So the best thing to do is obviously have something imprinted there, but also something

1112
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:28,880
interesting to be watched on a TV on a big TV screen that makes sense for them.

1113
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:29,880
Cool.

1114
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:36,440
Now that if you do end up creating a animation or a video about the Dow, please, please share

1115
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,120
it because I would love to feature it here on the podcast.

1116
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,400
Yeah, we will definitely do that.

1117
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,040
You can expect that.

1118
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,040
Cool.

1119
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,960
And are there any other opportunities?

1120
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:48,960
What's that?

1121
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,040
And it will definitely be 100 percent in Portuguese.

1122
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,040
That's fine.

1123
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,040
That's fine.

1124
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,040
I'm kidding.

1125
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,560
We can do it in English.

1126
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,440
Whatever you end up creating, it could be whatever it is that you determine is best

1127
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:02,800
for the event.

1128
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:03,800
That's fine.

1129
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:11,520
But what are there any opportunities for you to do interviews or panels where you can talk

1130
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:16,400
about the Dow or is it not the right place?

1131
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:21,040
It's something that we always do and it's something that we will definitely do.

1132
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:29,760
As I mentioned, we we usually make an interesting banner in the place that we do all the interviews

1133
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,880
and then we talk about what we're doing.

1134
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:38,480
I mentioned before last year, we did a lot of interviews about Barcelona, about Montreal

1135
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,480
City, about Pincicla.

1136
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:47,400
This year at Gamescom Latam, I did hundreds of hundreds of interviews about the Olympic

1137
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:54,200
Games that were coming and what we were showcasing and how cool it was to be played inside Fortnite

1138
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,800
and Roblox and the sandbox.

1139
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:05,560
Sorry, the way that I'm saying is that I really did a lot of interviews talking about this.

1140
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,800
This is something that will definitely happen.

1141
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:13,120
We have the influencers the way that we did last year, Brazilian influencers that come

1142
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:19,120
there talk about this and try to understand, do the questions that what you're doing, how

1143
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:25,920
this works and why people would play this and why would people be part of the Dow and

1144
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,280
all of this kind of stuff.

1145
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:33,720
So if they understand, it's very likely that their followers will also understand and be

1146
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:34,720
part of it.

1147
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,800
Well, I appreciate you asking that question and being open to feedback.

1148
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:47,800
I think that would really help out a number of people to hear that you would work in things

1149
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:53,040
that will catch people's eye, that will facilitate conversations about the Dow and then different

1150
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:57,840
panels and interviews where you can sprinkle in the Dow and talk about it.

1151
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:03,240
So that I think that that hits the spot right there.

1152
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,240
Thank you.

1153
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,240
Awesome.

1154
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,240
Obrigado.

1155
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:07,240
Thank you.

1156
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:14,480
OK, the next one is what does attending the events accomplish for the sandbox ecosystem?

1157
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:22,520
Yeah, what's your impression of when hermit crab goes to Brazil, the event?

1158
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,120
Well, again, BSGS.

1159
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,720
Yeah, Brazil Game Show.

1160
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,480
OK, when you go to BGS.

1161
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,120
What is your goal?

1162
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,520
Sure.

1163
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,120
I think you said it there, but I want to reattach the question.

1164
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:43,960
What is your goal at BGS?

1165
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,840
I would say that we have usually two goals.

1166
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:55,240
We have one, the main goal is to bring more attention to the brand that we are bringing.

1167
01:06:55,240 --> 01:07:01,560
Hermit crab is a company that does games with brands 100 percent of the time.

1168
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:07,860
So if you're bringing a soccer team, we will bring the attention to the soccer team.

1169
01:07:07,860 --> 01:07:14,400
If we're doing something with sandbox, we'll bring the attention to the sandbox.

1170
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:21,080
And the main goal is to, at the end of the event, have more people aware and playing

1171
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:26,640
that game after the event.

1172
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,840
That's the reason that we are there.

1173
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:36,000
And this is usually a long tail, because if you go to an event like that, if you are a

1174
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:44,280
student in college, in graduation, and then you see something different, the cool part

1175
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:49,600
about being in an event like this is the fact that you can tell people that you saw something

1176
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,400
that no one else knows.

1177
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:56,640
And then you have an information and you are special somehow.

1178
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:02,480
And this is the kind of feeling that we want to bring to every single one that goes to

1179
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,000
an event at BGS or Gamescom or anyone.

1180
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:12,080
So they have some new topic to talk with their friends.

1181
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:17,280
And once they do that, obviously they want to showcase this, and then we will be bringing

1182
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:22,880
new people for the next three to six weeks after the event.

1183
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:31,080
So we reach usually those 30K, 50K people that are there.

1184
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,080
We reach a few major people that are the influencers.

1185
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:41,000
And then after that, we have this long tail happening from people that saw the influencer

1186
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:46,440
playing that game or the person that went there, talked with chips.

1187
01:08:46,440 --> 01:08:51,360
And then after that said, well, I know the guy that did that game and he was super awesome.

1188
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:52,360
And I talked to him.

1189
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:53,360
He is super awesome.

1190
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,360
I'll give it to you.

1191
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:57,960
No, I'm kidding.

1192
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:02,200
But he tried the game and then he had fun and then he can showcase.

1193
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,880
And the good thing is that the sandbox is metaversed.

1194
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,160
We all can come together to play.

1195
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,880
So I can play with you with another person and we can interact there.

1196
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,880
So it's something different.

1197
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:21,440
It's like knowing brand new social network that only the cool people know.

1198
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:27,120
So that's the main idea that I have on top of this.

1199
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,720
And that's what it brings to the ecosystem of the sandbox.

1200
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:38,520
People thinking that they are cool in Latin America area just because they know something

1201
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,560
that no one else does.

1202
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:41,560
Got it.

1203
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:42,560
Got it.

1204
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:43,560
OK.

1205
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:50,880
And so in this your goal this year would be to bring attention to the sandbox game and

1206
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:51,880
the Dow.

1207
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:52,880
OK.

1208
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:53,880
Yeah.

1209
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:54,880
OK.

1210
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,880
I'm looking forward to see how this work.

1211
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,320
I do.

1212
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,240
We've been very successful so far.

1213
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:09,280
That's the reason that we are almost 10 years in existing as Herbits Crab.

1214
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,360
And every time that we do an event we do something bigger.

1215
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:13,360
We do better.

1216
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:18,200
We learn from the last year and the year before.

1217
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:24,760
And we're moving forward and reaching more people and understanding how to bring something

1218
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,880
new, something different.

1219
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:32,180
So this is why we do this and why we invest in this.

1220
01:10:32,180 --> 01:10:35,760
Because at the end of the day we are also investing on our end.

1221
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:41,880
It's not just this amount of money that can pay a booth and TVs and people.

1222
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,700
You got to consider that this is a five day event.

1223
01:10:44,700 --> 01:10:50,880
So we got to have a lot of people at the booth and every single person there has a cost that

1224
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,820
is not covered.

1225
01:10:53,820 --> 01:10:58,200
We need to sometimes make these people travel to go to the event or something like that.

1226
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,880
This is something that we are getting from our pockets.

1227
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,560
The only thing that we are asking for this is pretty much like printing things on the

1228
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,600
walls and having the TVs and the computers.

1229
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:09,600
Got it.

1230
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:14,200
And what sort of follow up normally happens with the people that you meet?

1231
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:19,400
Do you like exchange contact information or newsletters or what?

1232
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,320
Usually people follow us on the social media.

1233
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:27,960
This is our main focus.

1234
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,440
That's how they interact with us every time.

1235
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:34,000
For example, we did an event at Gamescom.

1236
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:41,400
Some people send things directly to me on social media saying, well, I played this experience

1237
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:49,840
on Roblox and there's this thing that is bugged, has a ball that is showing up a couple of

1238
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,060
times more than it should.

1239
01:11:52,060 --> 01:11:59,560
So they feel them as part of the development that's different, especially if you are in

1240
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:00,560
Latin America.

1241
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:07,040
Because usually when you are in the US, you sort of know where the developers are in a

1242
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:08,040
way.

1243
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:16,320
You know that in LA you will find a movie who shoots the movies and all the companies

1244
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,320
and all that.

1245
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,600
So you know that it's kind of not that far.

1246
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:28,560
But for people here in Latam, the game developers are far, far away, something unreachable.

1247
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:33,940
So once you know someone that actually does something, they feel part of it.

1248
01:12:33,940 --> 01:12:37,640
Every time that they can send a message saying, well, I tried this experience on the sandbox

1249
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:45,720
and this happened, look at this, they feel as if they are also developing it and being

1250
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:46,720
part of it.

1251
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:52,800
This is something that is beyond imagination.

1252
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:58,160
For some people, developing a game is not something that they can dream of and now they

1253
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:59,160
can.

1254
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:06,560
I can tell you've done a lot of interviews.

1255
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,960
You're very well spoken.

1256
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:09,960
Thank you.

1257
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:10,960
You're too kind.

1258
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:17,000
All right, so one of the main follow ups for people that would go by the booth would be

1259
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,360
to follow hermit crab studio social media.

1260
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:20,360
Yeah.

1261
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:21,360
Okay.

1262
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:22,360
And so then you had them engaged.

1263
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:23,360
Obviously.

1264
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:30,400
Yeah, I just thought of as we're saying that, that if one of your screens had the sandbox

1265
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,040
dowels Twitter feed.

1266
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,560
Yeah, it would be super cool.

1267
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,280
I didn't even think about that until just now.

1268
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,400
That would be something.

1269
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:42,680
Because they're always posting stuff about the latest sips and everything else.

1270
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:48,440
If they were to follow hit follow on hermit crab studio and the sandbox Dow, I think,

1271
01:13:48,440 --> 01:13:52,200
I think we're getting really, really close to what a lot of people are asking about when

1272
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,200
it comes to voting.

1273
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,000
Oh, you're writing it down.

1274
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,000
Okay.

1275
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,000
All right.

1276
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,880
This is a cool idea.

1277
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:07,560
That's something that we can do and we can put a TV sideways and have the feed like moving

1278
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,360
and scrolling and all that.

1279
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,360
All right.

1280
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:17,880
Hey, I'm I'm very happy to hear that you're willing to to include that and integrate those

1281
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:18,880
things.

1282
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:24,360
I think that makes your your position your what you're offering the Dow much stronger.

1283
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:25,760
My personal opinion.

1284
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,400
Appreciate that.

1285
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:28,400
Cool.

1286
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,400
Very cool.

1287
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,560
All right.

1288
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:35,080
How does accomplish for the sandbox ecosystem?

1289
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,240
I think we already answered that one, so I'm strike that one off the list.

1290
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,400
One less one to target you about.

1291
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,400
Dow awareness.

1292
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:44,400
We spoke about that a bit.

1293
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:45,400
All right.

1294
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:46,400
Quorum.

1295
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,520
Let's let's deviate a little bit for a quorum.

1296
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,520
I noticed on sips nine and 10.

1297
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,520
We'll just go.

1298
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,480
We'll just go sip number 10.

1299
01:14:57,480 --> 01:14:59,120
Yeah, sip 10.

1300
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,120
That's you.

1301
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,640
Where is there we go.

1302
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,600
So right now you all are trailing.

1303
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,400
You've got 61 percent.

1304
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:06,400
Yes.

1305
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:07,600
And 37 percent.

1306
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:08,600
No.

1307
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,800
But only four point six million of 30 million quorum.

1308
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:20,240
So that's four point six divided by 30 is 15 percent quorum, which is a problem.

1309
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,200
That's a problem.

1310
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:31,960
How what are you all doing or what do you know to do to help reach quorum?

1311
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:39,720
Well, first of all, let's let me ask this question.

1312
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,600
Because you all are so decentralized where you input the stuff and that sort of thing,

1313
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,600
are you all worried about quorum at all?

1314
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,920
Are you are you being asked to reach out to people?

1315
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:57,080
I've been pressing F5 at the forum like every single day.

1316
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:05,040
I have this open right now and to answer every single one, I know there's 18 questions at

1317
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:09,600
the SIP here and I've answered you every time that you.

1318
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,080
Yes, you have.

1319
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,400
Yes, you have.

1320
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,960
I'm here to help and try to.

1321
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:24,140
But maybe I'm not as qualified as I should to reach everyone and make sure that everybody

1322
01:16:24,140 --> 01:16:26,840
comes together to vote on our.

1323
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,200
Yeah.

1324
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:33,380
But that's the main reason that I'm here talking on your podcast to spread the word and make

1325
01:16:33,380 --> 01:16:37,960
sure that everybody knows about this and comes to vote.

1326
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,280
That's what I want.

1327
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:47,940
But unfortunately, I can't reach every one of the Dow and go one by one asking just because

1328
01:16:47,940 --> 01:16:48,940
I don't know how.

1329
01:16:48,940 --> 01:16:49,940
Yeah, I should.

1330
01:16:49,940 --> 01:16:50,940
That's OK.

1331
01:16:50,940 --> 01:16:51,940
That's OK.

1332
01:16:51,940 --> 01:16:54,940
Let's let me show you something.

1333
01:16:54,940 --> 01:16:58,000
So I put this slide out.

1334
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:03,120
I think I did this for Loretta when we just did her podcast the other day.

1335
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,920
Oh, no, no, I wrote I did this because of Arthmore.

1336
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:11,320
When I did, we did his his podcast last week and he had had the same question because I

1337
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:15,800
noticed that that he didn't know how to reach out because he was brand new to the Sandbox

1338
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,240
Dow and the Sandbox community didn't have any background.

1339
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,000
I wanted to prepare for him a slide.

1340
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:27,600
So on the slide deck that I sent you slide 13, that is where you can go to start reaching

1341
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:28,600
core members.

1342
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:34,500
And I know that because you're you and all the other different studios pitched in together

1343
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:38,800
for the SIPP that this isn't like a traditional SIPP where you have one author and that author

1344
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,060
would be the one responsible for all that.

1345
01:17:41,060 --> 01:17:47,640
So you'd have to probably ask Cyril or at Mateus to contact Cyril to figure out what

1346
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,400
it is he wants to do about that.

1347
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:54,640
Because at the rate you're going, I don't know if you're going to make it on quorum.

1348
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:55,640
It's a problem.

1349
01:17:55,640 --> 01:18:01,280
So on slide 13, and I'm showing it here on the on the stream, I'm saying you here are

1350
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:07,840
five different places you could go to ask for support.

1351
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,680
And these are all sandbox affiliated.

1352
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,040
They're not all sandbox specific like I am.

1353
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:13,880
I'm sandbox devoted.

1354
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:21,460
But Mogaverse Hall, Bulls on the Block, those are those are eight eight chain Dow.

1355
01:18:21,460 --> 01:18:22,720
They are eight coin Dow.

1356
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:29,320
I mean, they are sandbox Dow, Forbes and some other places where they all combine their

1357
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:30,320
own groups.

1358
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,420
All right.

1359
01:18:31,420 --> 01:18:33,980
But there I frequently go to them during the week.

1360
01:18:33,980 --> 01:18:40,940
So they know of sandbox Dow and they would welcome you because Arthmore just on Saturday

1361
01:18:40,940 --> 01:18:45,620
was on Bulls on the Block and I could probably send you that link where they asked him questions

1362
01:18:45,620 --> 01:18:50,800
about his sip to all of the people who who vote for Bulls on the Block, of which they

1363
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,680
have about, I think, two hundred thousand voting power.

1364
01:18:53,680 --> 01:19:00,080
So they own a big plot of land and they have a lot of people who listen in who are also

1365
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,640
people who would vote independent of Bulls on the Block.

1366
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,640
Same thing with Mogaverse Hall.

1367
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:06,640
Chris Jordan.

1368
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:07,760
So he's Coffee with Captain.

1369
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:12,600
They are mostly eight coins, but they do talk about the sandbox every once in a while.

1370
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,300
They are every single day.

1371
01:19:14,300 --> 01:19:18,400
So you can catch them on their Twitter spaces every single day.

1372
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:25,820
And if you hit at least one of them, if you hit each of them one time, you'll be great.

1373
01:19:25,820 --> 01:19:29,520
But I know that you're just hermit crab compared to everyone else.

1374
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,560
So maybe there's a discussion that you all need to have amongst yourselves.

1375
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,120
Do you want to split the work?

1376
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,560
Do you not even want to try?

1377
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,720
It's like it's all what you all want to do.

1378
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,640
Yeah, I'm the kind of guy that is always up for that.

1379
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,000
I see that about you, chips.

1380
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,040
I see that about you.

1381
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,720
I think it's important to be part of it.

1382
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:57,720
If we're trying to spread the word about Dell, it's part of our job to also talk to the community

1383
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,200
and bring them along.

1384
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:03,040
Hopefully this won't be a shot in the foot.

1385
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:12,320
But no, what they'll do, what they'll do is they'll when you when you show up and you

1386
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,680
request to speak, they're like, hey, how are you?

1387
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:16,680
Who do you represent?

1388
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:22,040
If you say that you're one of the SIPP authors for the SIPP that's on the voting floor, they

1389
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:26,040
will give you the space to say your piece.

1390
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,920
And what you've already said to me, you'll have no problem.

1391
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,560
They have no issue.

1392
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:32,560
It's not it's not accusatory.

1393
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,080
They're not there to attack you.

1394
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,200
Some of them will ask questions kind of what I said, which is how does this benefit the

1395
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,840
Dow or or whatever the case may be.

1396
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:40,840
But it's very welcoming.

1397
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:41,840
It's very hospitable.

1398
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:47,720
Okay, so and then and I think that will do you and the SIPP wonders when it comes to

1399
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:54,120
people looking at that, because while you do have 61 percent, yes, that that 15 percent

1400
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,480
is worrisome because we've already been here.

1401
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:58,240
We've been at this already.

1402
01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:59,680
What four days?

1403
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:00,680
Yeah.

1404
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,280
So about 10 days left.

1405
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,080
You got to I already will.

1406
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:12,480
I already speak at these places, but I don't I can't speak for you because it's I can't

1407
01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:13,880
advocate like that.

1408
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,320
But I say, hey, we have these two SIPPs.

1409
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,200
I've already said it this week for people that we have these two SIPPs.

1410
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:21,200
Go vote, please.

1411
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,280
Yes, no, just vote something.

1412
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:30,800
And and then well, members, they have the largest land ownership in the whole sandbox.

1413
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:37,520
They have like I think last count was they have over a thousand lands and which is an

1414
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:38,880
enormous amount of voting power.

1415
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:44,120
The only thing with whale members is they only vote by delegation, of which the sandbox

1416
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:45,640
style doesn't have yet.

1417
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,040
So it's a it's a big question as to whether or not you'll be able to earn their vote.

1418
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:53,440
But they've been around for a long time and they have a big reach.

1419
01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:55,520
It's not about earning their vote or not.

1420
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,480
Is much more about spreading the word.

1421
01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:01,360
So I would hate for this to be huge.

1422
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,360
Yes.

1423
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,360
And then you'd not get quorum like Game City Jam did.

1424
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:09,520
It had the yes, but didn't reach it and they got rejected.

1425
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,120
And that that would be a shame.

1426
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,400
And then San Fam Cafe.

1427
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:17,360
So that's done by Pickaxe Master and San Fam Cafe does it once a month.

1428
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,880
So I should really only put one time monthly.

1429
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:27,320
You might be able to convince him to do a podcast like this or or have him advocate for

1430
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:31,840
you in some way to say, hey, this is this is what they're about and all that sort of

1431
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:32,840
stuff.

1432
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,120
Maybe like a quick YouTube short or whatever it is that they would be willing to do.

1433
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:41,640
Those are the places that I would hit if I were you or at least offer up to me, but they

1434
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:47,120
used to say, hey, if these are some of the ways that we can get quorum.

1435
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:48,120
Perfect.

1436
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,840
Yeah, and I'll advocate this to him, too.

1437
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,840
If when we can do our podcast in the future.

1438
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,080
Yeah, yeah, we will do that for sure.

1439
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:57,720
It's just as I mentioned.

1440
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:58,720
Sure.

1441
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:00,680
Probably won't be in English, as I mentioned before.

1442
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:05,120
That's why I offered to bring a translator like I would hire a Portuguese translator

1443
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:06,120
to do that.

1444
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:07,640
But he said English is fine for him.

1445
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,520
So OK, OK, problem.

1446
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:11,520
Yep.

1447
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:17,280
Otherwise, I'll be Google translating in real time and speak terrible, terrible Portuguese.

1448
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,600
He's able to speak English.

1449
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:20,600
That's not a problem.

1450
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:21,600
OK, cool.

1451
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,600
Not be just as quick on doing this.

1452
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,960
That's that's completely fine.

1453
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:27,960
Understandable.

1454
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,880
His French accent speaking English.

1455
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:31,880
Yeah.

1456
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:38,480
So when I first reached out to him, I saw that his profile was in was in French.

1457
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:42,080
So I sent him a French message.

1458
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,280
I translated it and then he sent me like this.

1459
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,520
He responded to me real fast and he sent me this big, long message.

1460
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:53,520
I'm like, oh, my gosh, I don't speak French.

1461
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,640
I released a Kraken on me.

1462
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:56,640
I sure did.

1463
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,640
I sure did.

1464
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,560
So we had a good laugh over that.

1465
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:07,440
And then and then, yeah, then I realized that he was from Brazil, actually.

1466
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:14,200
So so then I, you know, then I offered to do this in Portuguese and said and then he's

1467
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:20,000
so graciously offered that let's just put Lanzar out of his misery and do it in English.

1468
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,640
So yeah, much better.

1469
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:23,640
All right.

1470
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,080
So those are high.

1471
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:30,200
I highly recommend the sandbox, the San Fam and the Dow is disorganized right now.

1472
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,040
We don't have like like Apecoin.

1473
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,520
This coffee with Captain.

1474
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:41,040
These are seen by hundreds of Apecoin, Dow voters, hundreds of them.

1475
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:46,560
So they they have a lot of places where you can go and get a lot of voters to see what

1476
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,640
you what you're after.

1477
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:49,640
We don't have that.

1478
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,640
I'm probably the closest thing we have to that right now.

1479
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:53,640
Yeah.

1480
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,040
And and and and I try my best.

1481
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,560
So that that's it.

1482
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:00,560
That's all we've got.

1483
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:01,560
Cool.

1484
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:02,560
Let's go back.

1485
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:11,360
Reaching quorum, so Lanzar share slide 13 sandbox spaces.

1486
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:12,840
What's that?

1487
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:13,840
Thank you.

1488
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:14,840
Yeah.

1489
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:15,840
Oh, absolutely.

1490
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:16,840
Absolutely.

1491
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,880
But like I said earlier, when you win, we win.

1492
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,480
Like it's it's all the Dow.

1493
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:23,480
The Dow is winning.

1494
01:25:23,480 --> 01:25:24,480
Yeah.

1495
01:25:24,480 --> 01:25:25,480
So that's the idea.

1496
01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:26,480
OK.

1497
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:29,080
So there's some key phrases in there that I didn't quite understand.

1498
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,520
And the in the SIP activation of six percent.

1499
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,260
What does that mean?

1500
01:25:34,260 --> 01:25:35,560
That's 100 percent on me.

1501
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:36,560
A hundred.

1502
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:41,460
All the questions that come along now, they are 100 percent on me.

1503
01:25:41,460 --> 01:25:48,200
If you go to a event, if you have a group event that had three hundred thousand people

1504
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:54,560
in it, if they sell you that they are going to reach three hundred thousand people, you're

1505
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,840
lying to you.

1506
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:03,000
And I wouldn't be unfair to anyone at the same we're going to be at the BGS and you're

1507
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,000
going to reach like three hundred thirty thousand people.

1508
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,560
It's going to be awesome.

1509
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:15,680
What I said is like it's reasonable to say that we can make at least six percent of those

1510
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:21,040
people get there and play the game.

1511
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:27,200
In best case scenario, we might reach like 15 percent, 20 percent, like which which is

1512
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,800
like 60,000 people playing on our both.

1513
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:38,000
OK, a lot, especially if you compare with any other sort of event.

1514
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:47,440
What I've said is you can count on me to bring for sure six percent of this thirty, thirty,

1515
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:55,120
three hundred thirty people because the rest and how many how many events like these have

1516
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,800
you done before?

1517
01:26:58,800 --> 01:26:59,800
I don't know.

1518
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:00,800
I lost count like a lot.

1519
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:01,800
You've done a lot.

1520
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:02,800
Sixty.

1521
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:03,800
Excellent.

1522
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:04,800
Awesome.

1523
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:05,800
So we're in good hands.

1524
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:06,800
Jeff's what I'm saying.

1525
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:07,800
All right.

1526
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:12,480
Yeah, I can count on you to reach six percent.

1527
01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:16,000
Two thousand seven.

1528
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,880
So it's been a while.

1529
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:18,880
No.

1530
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:19,880
Yeah.

1531
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:20,880
Two thousand seven.

1532
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,400
You said almost 20 years, right?

1533
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:24,400
Yeah, exactly.

1534
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:29,680
No, but but but regarding events specifically like doing things and reaching people and

1535
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,480
talking to people since 2007.

1536
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:38,840
I mean, the tech industry since 2002, I used to work with pocket PCs.

1537
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:39,840
Have you heard of it?

1538
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:44,120
Palm Tops, Palm Tops and pocket PCs.

1539
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:45,120
Yeah.

1540
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:52,000
Before the day before they invented the smartphone.

1541
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:57,920
Like the Blackberries and all that the razors.

1542
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:03,360
Palm is a company that it's something that you can reach in your palm and it was supposed

1543
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:07,920
to be like a smart computer in your hand.

1544
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:10,120
So I need to Google this.

1545
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:15,320
HP had a palm pocket, literally.

1546
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:16,320
Yeah.

1547
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:17,320
Yeah.

1548
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:18,320
OK, I remember these.

1549
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:19,320
Yeah.

1550
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:20,320
Yeah.

1551
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,080
Like I was alive when these were here.

1552
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:30,760
Yeah, I was working on this when these were these ones were here.

1553
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,760
So it's been a while.

1554
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:33,760
Palm pocket.

1555
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,240
Oh, I haven't seen this in a long time.

1556
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:36,240
Oh, my gosh.

1557
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:40,800
I was with the stylus.

1558
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:41,920
Exactly.

1559
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:51,560
So that's why I'm saying that I can guarantee that I can activate that I can have at least

1560
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:59,720
6% of the whole event playing the game, doing talking with them, showcasing what's the DAO

1561
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:00,720
is.

1562
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:06,200
And it's way more than other events that you can have.

1563
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,880
And so what does activation mean in that regard?

1564
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,680
What are you activating?

1565
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:22,200
Usually when we we have, for example, a game, we have a DAO, a daily active user at DAU.

1566
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,680
OK, yeah, yeah.

1567
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:25,680
OK.

1568
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,640
During the day, we have one active user.

1569
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:34,460
So this means that I have one active player at the at the event.

1570
01:29:34,460 --> 01:29:40,800
So I will guarantee from the pool of three hundred thirty thousand people, I'll have

1571
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:46,320
6% active at the sandbox.

1572
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:50,040
They will count as a new player playing that game.

1573
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,680
So you're going to add them to the daily active user count?

1574
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:53,680
Yes.

1575
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,240
OK, so 6% of three hundred thirty thousand.

1576
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,240
I'm a math.

1577
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:58,240
I love I love doing.

1578
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,240
You can do that.

1579
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:05,480
Nineteen thousand eight hundred people, you're going to add nineteen thousand eight hundred

1580
01:30:05,480 --> 01:30:07,000
daily active users.

1581
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,000
Yes.

1582
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,000
All right.

1583
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,160
You seem pretty confident about it and you've been doing it for a while.

1584
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:12,160
So yeah, yeah.

1585
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:16,200
And how how do we how do we see that?

1586
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,040
Is there a place I can go to see that or what?

1587
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,680
Yeah, we have the analytics.

1588
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:26,960
I know that because we just been to to gamescom.

1589
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:32,040
And we have the experiences and we do have the analytics inside of every single tablet

1590
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:33,440
and every single experience.

1591
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:38,920
So we know how many people played in every single tablet for every single day.

1592
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:39,920
OK, OK.

1593
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:45,600
And you have metrics and for gamescom.

1594
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:55,680
Let's say we had ninety thousand people and we have eight thousand people playing.

1595
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,400
OK.

1596
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:04,720
And so if you can activate them by adding them to the DAU, the daily active users of

1597
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:11,280
the sandbox game, how many of them do you think you can activate for the Dow?

1598
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:16,800
That's a great question that I'll be foolish to answer you.

1599
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:22,320
OK, because it's not because because I work with games.

1600
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,760
I do understand all the metrics on top of games.

1601
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,040
They will be aware.

1602
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:35,440
I'm pretty sure that we'll have brand awareness of 10 percent of the public for sure.

1603
01:31:35,440 --> 01:31:37,240
They will know there is.

1604
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:43,800
But considering this is a Dow, it's very unlikely that they will like follow up right away and

1605
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:47,000
be part of the Dow on that day.

1606
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:53,400
So what what they will have, they will have some sort of gift or some sort of not some

1607
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:54,400
sort of way.

1608
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:56,920
We already have this on our proposal.

1609
01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,960
The idea is to do some customized candies that they can have.

1610
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:08,400
They can bring back home customized candies, candies, like candies, like customized candies.

1611
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,120
You think it's like sandbox game candies.

1612
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:12,680
Yeah.

1613
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:13,680
What do these things look like?

1614
01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,240
I don't I've never heard of sandbox game candies before.

1615
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,440
You never heard of it because they don't exist.

1616
01:32:18,440 --> 01:32:20,440
Oh, you're going to make them.

1617
01:32:20,440 --> 01:32:21,440
OK.

1618
01:32:21,440 --> 01:32:22,440
All right.

1619
01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:23,440
Same thing.

1620
01:32:23,440 --> 01:32:30,120
For example, for the again for the C.O.B., we we had for last year Gamescom, we we have

1621
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:34,000
like we call it Bon Bon's.

1622
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,360
I forgot the name.

1623
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:41,680
It was chocolate candies that whoever played a game and and reach a certain level of the

1624
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,400
game would get this kind of candy back home.

1625
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,440
This is candy.

1626
01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:53,680
And there was a line of people like trying to to reach that to do whatever was supposed

1627
01:32:53,680 --> 01:33:00,240
to be done in every single game, deliver a soccer ball or something like that in game

1628
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:07,760
to get this because people like this and that's something that is easy to be created.

1629
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:11,880
And for this year at Gamescom, like we had, I can show you.

1630
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:19,960
Well, we might have the pictures of this, but we do have we had a wall of candies, all

1631
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:26,600
sorts of things, because one of our sponsors was a candy brand.

1632
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:34,760
So we did have like the the medals of the the Olympics as a candy.

1633
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:40,960
So you have a package that you can open and you have the gold medal, the bronze medal,

1634
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:45,920
the silver medal to be eaten like gummy bears.

1635
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:46,920
Got it.

1636
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:47,920
Got it.

1637
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:49,160
OK, OK, got it.

1638
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:55,720
So as you said that, then I think it will be very important for you to do a banner of

1639
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,680
the Get Involved Now section of the DAO.

1640
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:00,020
Is that right there?

1641
01:34:00,020 --> 01:34:01,640
Number one is Discover and Debate.

1642
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,240
Number two is Vote for Change and then Witness the Impact.

1643
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:05,900
So they have the different links.

1644
01:34:05,900 --> 01:34:11,400
So if if you have the Sandbox DAO's web page and then the Get Involved Now, that's very

1645
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:15,360
mark it advertise as well.

1646
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:16,360
In my opinion.

1647
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:24,640
Yeah, it's it's forgot the expression is when you sorry about that.

1648
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:25,640
That's OK.

1649
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:26,640
That's OK.

1650
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:27,640
No problem.

1651
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:28,640
Cool.

1652
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:29,640
And then.

1653
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:30,640
Nice.

1654
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:36,080
That that would probably be helpful because then whereas you you have a lot of gaming

1655
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,840
expertise, how do you activate the DAO user?

1656
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,160
I assume call the actions are pretty important in your industry.

1657
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:43,160
Call to action.

1658
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,240
That's that was the oh, is that what it was?

1659
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:46,240
OK, cool.

1660
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:50,280
So then that could serve as our call to action, which is the get involved now and then the

1661
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,240
big old discover vote.

1662
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,840
And then so they they create the account to join the discussions and they can ask questions

1663
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:02,200
like I am, then they vote on the snapshot and then they watch the dashboard as things

1664
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:05,320
are like, I guess, view the dashboard.

1665
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:08,440
I mean, they just watch the the budget go down.

1666
01:35:08,440 --> 01:35:11,700
OK, I get it.

1667
01:35:11,700 --> 01:35:12,700
It's so good.

1668
01:35:12,700 --> 01:35:13,700
It still looks really good.

1669
01:35:13,700 --> 01:35:19,200
A lot of these things are very banner worthy and create banners out of a lot of this.

1670
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:20,940
Anyways, I just noticed that.

1671
01:35:20,940 --> 01:35:21,940
That's pretty cool.

1672
01:35:21,940 --> 01:35:28,560
OK, so while you'll make every attempt to to talk about the DAO and incorporate it into

1673
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:29,560
your discussions.

1674
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:30,560
All right.

1675
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,200
Yeah, but you can.

1676
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:39,760
But you're you're quite confident that you're going to be able to activate 19000 gamers

1677
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,120
for the for the OK.

1678
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:48,360
And is that is that formalized in anything like that's what said is expecting of you?

1679
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,040
Yes, yes.

1680
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:57,320
Well, and because because this is a low shot, it's I see these as an easy target.

1681
01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:59,320
An easy target, he says.

1682
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,240
And he I think that's cool.

1683
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:06,640
I think it's good that you you understand the environment and that you know what to

1684
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:07,640
expect.

1685
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:08,640
I think that's good.

1686
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:12,000
Yeah, because we as I said, we did that.

1687
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,700
We already done that before.

1688
01:36:13,700 --> 01:36:15,960
We know what we are getting.

1689
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,240
I'm shooting and not shooting for the stars.

1690
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:26,320
I'm like I'm like doing this as down to earth as possible to make sure that we'll we'll

1691
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:30,480
have everyone on board the way that we are expecting and not letting it.

1692
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:36,600
It's better for me to tell you that I'll bring you three packages of candy at the end of

1693
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,120
the day and then bring you five.

1694
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:43,040
Then I tell you that I'm going to bring three packets and I bring you one.

1695
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:47,320
And then you're disappointed and say, spoken like a true business manager.

1696
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,280
Like to exceed expectations.

1697
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:50,280
All right.

1698
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:51,280
Exactly.

1699
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:52,280
Yeah.

1700
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:58,280
So if six percent is is is pretty easy to obtain, what what would be the five days of

1701
01:36:58,280 --> 01:36:59,280
events?

1702
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:00,280
Five days.

1703
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:01,280
Five days.

1704
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:10,860
So if you divide this from in an event that happens from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m., you'll find

1705
01:37:10,860 --> 01:37:13,640
that it's not an absurd number.

1706
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:14,640
OK.

1707
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,720
But what would be an absurd number to expect of you?

1708
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,920
Twenty five percent.

1709
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:20,920
Twenty five.

1710
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:21,920
OK.

1711
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,400
So you reach six.

1712
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,440
Do you think that you'll be able to pretty comfortably get 10?

1713
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:28,440
You think you'll land at 12?

1714
01:37:28,440 --> 01:37:29,440
I'm not going to bring you.

1715
01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:34,280
I'm going to say six percent.

1716
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,320
And this is what I'm signing for.

1717
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,320
Sorry for that.

1718
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:41,500
Because if I don't, I'll be disappointed.

1719
01:37:41,500 --> 01:37:42,500
I'll feel bad.

1720
01:37:42,500 --> 01:37:43,500
All right.

1721
01:37:43,500 --> 01:37:45,600
So absurd would be 25 percent.

1722
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:46,600
All right.

1723
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:47,600
Exactly.

1724
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:48,600
All right.

1725
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:50,720
I hate when I do this.

1726
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:51,720
I'll let it go.

1727
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:52,720
I'll let that go.

1728
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:56,920
No, I think I think that's that's good to know.

1729
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,600
Anyways, just six percent absurd would be 25.

1730
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:04,560
So everything above six is exceeding expectations.

1731
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:05,560
Yeah.

1732
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:06,560
All right.

1733
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:10,520
So doing this kind of stuff, don't don't reach more than six percent.

1734
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:12,560
Don't reach like by far.

1735
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,680
OK, they have big lines and all that.

1736
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:16,920
Got it.

1737
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:21,360
What is the so the KPI for BGS 24?

1738
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:26,160
What does influencers and international TV channel mean in that sentence?

1739
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:27,160
Sure.

1740
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:33,440
Let me put you through this step by step.

1741
01:38:33,440 --> 01:38:41,640
Remember when I said that last year we had interviews with the TV channels from Spain,

1742
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:45,320
from Portugal talking about the games.

1743
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:51,120
We have at least one main TV channel that for sure will be there.

1744
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:58,960
And in Brazil, we have five main TV channels that reach like millions of people every day.

1745
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:04,280
So I guarantee that one of them is one of our partners and they will be there talking

1746
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:07,720
about what we are doing there.

1747
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:17,600
And we have and we have for these five days, we have at least one big influencer.

1748
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:21,080
We call them influencer here in Brazil.

1749
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:27,720
There is one guy that is a partner of ours, which is Flix Power, is the only Brazilian

1750
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:31,360
that has a character in Fortnite.

1751
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:39,920
He's one of these time from Gamescom Latam, we had an audience over of one point nine

1752
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:45,240
million people from those influencers from Brazil.

1753
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:51,000
So it's a lot of people reached from those six influencers that we had.

1754
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:58,480
And we probably have a different team of influencers coming to test and play and talk about do

1755
01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:02,200
the social media videos talking here.

1756
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:10,240
Here we came to the BGS and now you're trying the sandbox here at the TAL booth.

1757
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:15,440
And this is obviously be 100% in Portuguese.

1758
01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:18,400
And this is pretty much what we are looking for here.

1759
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:26,520
We might have someone doing this in Spanish to be able to reach Uruguay, Argentina, Chile

1760
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:33,760
and Colombia and other countries that are nearby going to Mexico.

1761
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:40,880
But mainly this is our goal to have at least these six super awesome influencers that will

1762
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:41,880
be there.

1763
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:42,880
Okay, let's hear.

1764
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:53,760
Last year, we had the center of the of the Brazilian American football team, the national

1765
01:40:53,760 --> 01:41:00,840
Brazilian football team, which was a friend of mine that had he has 300,000 followers

1766
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,680
on Instagram.

1767
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:09,240
And he went there like to try the game to do some imitations and have some fun and talk

1768
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:13,920
with everybody and do some meet and greet at the booth.

1769
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:15,000
So it was really cool.

1770
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,800
It was in the last day and it was super fun.

1771
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,880
And it worked really well.

1772
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,240
You play a little pickup game of football afterwards.

1773
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:26,360
No, no, we didn't.

1774
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:27,960
But it was really fun.

1775
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:28,960
Cool.

1776
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:29,960
Very cool.

1777
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:30,960
Okay.

1778
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,400
That makes sense.

1779
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:37,680
And I realize now that you might not be able to answer this one, but the KPI for Blocktober.

1780
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:39,480
Sorry, I'm sorry.

1781
01:41:39,480 --> 01:41:40,480
Okay.

1782
01:41:40,480 --> 01:41:47,440
So chips doesn't represent the people going to Blocktober.

1783
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:52,520
Okay, need to find them and ask them.

1784
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:57,200
I'll post that question in the proposal discussion.

1785
01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:00,120
Maybe someone will be able to pick that one up there.

1786
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:06,840
Yeah, I'll tag Dwyer monkey or I'll start I'll tag everybody.

1787
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:07,840
Awesome.

1788
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:08,840
Okay.

1789
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:10,960
And now those are the questions that I had.

1790
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:14,960
There are two community questions that popped up.

1791
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,680
Rocky's Miguel.

1792
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:24,080
Miguel, real life events have always been excellent for attracting players.

1793
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:29,480
If one of the problems of the sandbox platform is low player retention, how would these types

1794
01:42:29,480 --> 01:42:30,960
of events help that problem?

1795
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:32,960
He says hi from Ecuador.

1796
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:36,960
Where did they go?

1797
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:47,840
Thank you for your question.

1798
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:53,080
We do have new experiences coming from to the sandbox.

1799
01:42:53,080 --> 01:43:00,920
The idea is to retain them with this continuous experience for the sports land.

1800
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:10,040
The idea now is to have a sports land that is 100% life ongoing and will change the season.

1801
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:17,560
Right now we are in Olympic Games season and then we'll be in a new season after September.

1802
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:23,800
We are about to announce a new partner with us and this is what will make people come

1803
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:28,160
back to see what's going on in that place that they like to be.

1804
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:34,000
So on our side, specific, we are doing this to the sandbox to make sure that we have season

1805
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:35,680
after season after season.

1806
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:39,840
That's the same thing that Fortnite does and Roblox does.

1807
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:45,300
And if that's a problem for the sandbox or the other experiences, I don't know.

1808
01:43:45,300 --> 01:43:51,720
This is what we will be doing to making people stay at the sandbox.

1809
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:56,000
So continuous gameplay in the same way Fort Knox and Roblox has that will continually

1810
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,520
entice people to keep playing.

1811
01:43:58,520 --> 01:43:59,720
Season based, I would say.

1812
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:00,720
Season based.

1813
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:01,720
Okay.

1814
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:02,720
Yeah.

1815
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:07,640
Season based.

1816
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:13,720
That's what we see that keep the players coming back.

1817
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:18,560
Cool.

1818
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:24,920
And Rocky's Miguel, his second question was what other objectives would these events have?

1819
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,880
I was going to ask my other question, but never mind.

1820
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:32,560
So what other objectives do these events have?

1821
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,200
Do they have any other objectives?

1822
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,520
The main, yeah.

1823
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:45,380
My main objective is to be able to reach in person all the players from Latin America.

1824
01:44:45,380 --> 01:44:47,320
For example, Rocky's Miguel.

1825
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,840
Hopefully he'll be there since he's in Ecuador.

1826
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:56,640
We might be able to go to Sao Paulo in October 12th and we might be able to even take a picture

1827
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,240
together and talk about how the...

1828
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:00,240
That'd be cool.

1829
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:01,520
Yeah, that's super cool.

1830
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,360
And talk about how the sandbox is going.

1831
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:06,200
I can even try my Spanish.

1832
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:09,360
I promise I'll do that.

1833
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:19,080
And that's the idea is to put a face to that place that everybody knows the digital stuff

1834
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:29,160
once you bring them down to earth and they start knowing people that develop that experience,

1835
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,380
they start caring more about this.

1836
01:45:31,380 --> 01:45:33,780
And that's the main goal.

1837
01:45:33,780 --> 01:45:37,880
Because at the end of the day, the game industry is from people to people and we can never

1838
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:39,360
forget this.

1839
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:45,720
So that's the moment that you have to experience this, talk to people, talk to someone and

1840
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:49,440
understand what they have in mind and why we are there.

1841
01:45:49,440 --> 01:45:52,120
Got it.

1842
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:53,480
Okay.

1843
01:45:53,480 --> 01:45:56,400
All right.

1844
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:02,800
Reach all the players in Latin America that you possibly can to include Rocky's Miguel.

1845
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:03,800
You heard him, Miguel.

1846
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:04,800
Dale.

1847
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:05,800
Dale, Miguel.

1848
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:06,800
Vamos a Brasil game show.

1849
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:07,800
Brasil game show.

1850
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:08,800
Yeah.

1851
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:09,800
Yeah.

1852
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:10,800
Okay.

1853
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,800
That's a mess, but I'm sorry for that.

1854
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:20,440
All right, so here's the last thing I wanted to go over before we look at closing.

1855
01:46:20,440 --> 01:46:25,820
What I noticed as we were talking and you talked, we spoke about this quite a bit earlier.

1856
01:46:25,820 --> 01:46:31,160
You're one studio of several that is a part of this.

1857
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:35,500
Is there anything that you can do to share what you've learned, especially in the terms

1858
01:46:35,500 --> 01:46:41,800
of booth adjustments, like the different stuff that you can do to talk about the DAO and

1859
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:43,720
then the spaces for quorum?

1860
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:46,520
Is there any way that you can share this with the other studios?

1861
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:47,680
Yeah, absolutely.

1862
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:50,480
We have a secondary document here.

1863
01:46:50,480 --> 01:46:56,680
I have both opened here an Excel and a doc that I have all of those things and I'll put

1864
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,020
a comment on those.

1865
01:46:59,020 --> 01:47:05,760
The thing is, not all of them are building booths the same way that we are doing.

1866
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:12,280
Some of them are doing tickets for people to come.

1867
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:18,720
Some of them that are doing the whole event promotes a beta season or something like that.

1868
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:27,080
So everyone has a different view and thing to be done.

1869
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:29,320
But at the end of the day, obviously I can share.

1870
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:30,320
We have this conversation.

1871
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,760
I learned a lot from you.

1872
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:42,240
And I'll be happy to share all of the knowledge that I got to everybody else.

1873
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:47,480
That's a good thing about having this document all together so everybody can share the knowledge

1874
01:47:47,480 --> 01:47:51,340
and the expertise on this.

1875
01:47:51,340 --> 01:47:52,340
Thank you.

1876
01:47:52,340 --> 01:47:58,080
I appreciate that because if they end up doing the banners in the same or similar way to

1877
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:03,120
where those conversations will happen, whereas if they weren't there, they wouldn't happen,

1878
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:09,520
I think that will address at least some part of the concerns I have.

1879
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:16,040
And the people who did vote no, maybe they will change their vote to yes.

1880
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:24,640
But you do have yes, but you have a yes that's at 60%, not 80%.

1881
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:30,200
I would hate to see this fail because some large nos came in and the people who could

1882
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:33,920
have been convinced and told that this is really what you're going to be doing for the

1883
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:34,920
DAO.

1884
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:39,600
They're going to be like, oh, I don't have a problem with this anymore.

1885
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:40,600
You can count on me.

1886
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:41,600
Now I know who to reach.

1887
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,600
I see that now, Chips.

1888
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:45,600
I see that.

1889
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:46,600
Yeah, good.

1890
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:53,040
I'm really happy that we spoke about this.

1891
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,600
Yeah, that was really cool.

1892
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,840
So, were there any topics that you wanted to bring up?

1893
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:06,440
And I appreciated that you asked me questions and you held me accountable to answering them.

1894
01:49:06,440 --> 01:49:14,120
No, the questions that I had was pretty much the ones that I did about the DAO and how

1895
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:19,520
do you feel about being convinced and how to present the DAO itself.

1896
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:25,040
That's something that for me is way newer than it's for you.

1897
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:32,840
Obviously not for hermit crab itself, but for me, because I've been working in the game

1898
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:40,440
industry with consoles and mobile and other areas aside of DAOs and blockchain.

1899
01:49:40,440 --> 01:49:44,680
So I've been working with this just for a couple of years.

1900
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:48,960
So I've been learning a lot and every time that I talk to that's another reason that

1901
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:53,400
it's important to talk to everyone because every time that I come to an interview or

1902
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,880
any sort of conversation I learn during the process.

1903
01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:02,400
So for me, it's pretty much like, do you have any tip that when you were starting with the

1904
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:14,560
DAO and when you were starting, would you like to hear any sort of tip like start from

1905
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:20,840
this, start looking at that, know a little bit more of something?

1906
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:26,240
I think the biggest thing I learned when I started this 60 days ago, so I learned about

1907
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,720
the DAO when it was announced May 28th.

1908
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:31,400
I didn't know anything about DAOs.

1909
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:36,720
So I've been doing nothing but just learning everything I can, watching all the videos.

1910
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:43,800
I learned that the very first DAO was Ethereum and it crashed when someone hacked it.

1911
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:51,660
So that was the first DAO to ever exist and it did not do, it got hit pretty hard.

1912
01:50:51,660 --> 01:50:58,120
So ever since then, DAOs have been forming and then crashing or forming and being successful

1913
01:50:58,120 --> 01:50:59,560
to varying degrees.

1914
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:03,320
And what I learned is everyone is just trying to figure it out.

1915
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:08,840
There is no DAO manual because there are so few that have succeeded.

1916
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:16,000
And for the ones that are succeeding like Apecoin, they have massive problems with earning

1917
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,080
more money than they're spending.

1918
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:25,280
So because the Apecoin has like hundreds of millions of dollars, like huge budget, and

1919
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:29,960
they've got SIP, SIP, SIP, SIP, SIP, SIP, SIP and no money coming in.

1920
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:35,360
And if you look at their DAOs website, you can see just how little revenue they're able

1921
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:38,840
to earn compared to the massive amount of expenditures.

1922
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:44,080
So bad for business in the long run, they're desperately trying to create value for Apecoin

1923
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:45,440
however they can.

1924
01:51:45,440 --> 01:51:53,460
And so you can hold them up as an example of a successful DAO that is doing DAO things,

1925
01:51:53,460 --> 01:51:55,600
but what does their long-term health look like?

1926
01:51:55,600 --> 01:52:00,700
So that's the fight that a lot of these DAOs seem to be having.

1927
01:52:00,700 --> 01:52:07,720
And everyone, because it's community-led, everyone has a different idea of what success

1928
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:09,080
is supposed to be.

1929
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:16,560
So the sandbox DAO is in a similar situation where we're so brand new, we're very decentralized.

1930
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:22,840
A lot of us disagree on what the sandbox DAO should look like, but the added thing that

1931
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:28,960
I think you should be aware of for the sandbox DAO is we have a game behind us.

1932
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:35,800
We have land and NFTs and we have this infrastructure and this foundation that you're very aware

1933
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:40,620
well of right now that underpins the DAO's behavior.

1934
01:52:40,620 --> 01:52:43,400
And it started off centralized, not decentralized.

1935
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:48,200
It started off with Serial and the founders all coming together to say, this is what we

1936
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:49,200
want it to look like.

1937
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,200
And then they set off on a path.

1938
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:59,280
A lot of the sandbox community, the SanFam, is skeptical at best and resentful at worst.

1939
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:03,640
If you listen to the Discord and look at the Twitters and all that, you're going to see

1940
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:04,640
some of that.

1941
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:09,320
And some of that is a reaction to your proposal when you look at the no's that you received

1942
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:15,080
in this down here in the bottom where you can see the little...

1943
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:17,440
I can't see it.

1944
01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:23,960
But when you scroll down in the snapshot and you see the votes, you have 141 votes so far.

1945
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,560
And under the no's, there's a little...

1946
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:27,560
There.

1947
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:28,560
Okay.

1948
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:33,380
So if you're looking at my stream, down here, you can see that little no.

1949
01:53:33,380 --> 01:53:36,720
If you hover over, you'll see the reason why.

1950
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:39,200
You'll see the reason why if they gave you one.

1951
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:40,200
What was the no?

1952
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:45,680
So Tiché, a very big, prominent voice, someone who I would reach out to if I were you to

1953
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:47,640
turn his vote around.

1954
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:53,680
And he thinks that this is just something close to nepotism where you're giving money

1955
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:54,680
to yourselves.

1956
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:55,680
Right?

1957
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:59,480
He thinks that this is improper business conduct.

1958
01:53:59,480 --> 01:54:03,640
I'm not going to speak exactly for him, but if I were to paraphrase what he posted publicly,

1959
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:04,640
by the way...

1960
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:05,640
I totally understand.

1961
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:06,640
So this is...

1962
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:10,680
He is not at all the only person who holds this view.

1963
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:15,200
And a lot of people, the way the sandbox style came into being, look at it with that sort

1964
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:21,280
of suspicion that the Dow owners, the advisory council...

1965
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:26,120
I'm sorry, the special council and the advisory board, looks at it like we're going to give

1966
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:27,240
money to ourselves.

1967
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:30,880
Like Hermitcraft Studio is owned by Mateos, right?

1968
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:32,740
And he's on the board.

1969
01:54:32,740 --> 01:54:39,300
So the perception is Mateos is trying to give money to his own Hermitcraft Studio.

1970
01:54:39,300 --> 01:54:43,760
But as I've discovered talking to you, that that doesn't really seem like the case here.

1971
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:47,920
Yeah, I don't know how does this sound to you.

1972
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:55,440
On my point, and I've been working on this, on the event itself, the idea is pretty much

1973
01:54:55,440 --> 01:55:02,040
try to bring more people to the event, to the sandbox itself.

1974
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,600
Makes no sense for me to...

1975
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:10,200
At the end of the day, I want to keep working at Hermitcraft and I want to keep working

1976
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:11,640
at the game industry.

1977
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:17,040
So what matters to me is to have more people playing my games, playing the games that I

1978
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:18,080
work at.

1979
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:25,100
And every time that I bring more people on board, the longer I can keep doing this.

1980
01:55:25,100 --> 01:55:26,520
I love the job.

1981
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:28,620
I told you, I love doing this.

1982
01:55:28,620 --> 01:55:33,280
So what I want to...

1983
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:40,760
If I could print this on the moon and say, go to the sandbox now and have fun and play

1984
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:45,240
our games at the sandbox, I would do that.

1985
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:48,720
Doesn't matter how much does it cost.

1986
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:53,680
All that I want is having more people playing and having fun.

1987
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:59,120
Because this is why, that's why we develop games.

1988
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:04,320
Isn't it for having people gathering around, having fun?

1989
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,000
So that's what I want.

1990
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:12,480
I'm not making a dime on this.

1991
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:15,480
I think that's come through loud and clear, Chips.

1992
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:19,400
I think that's come through very loud and clear.

1993
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:25,320
The more people that we have here, the more money that you at the down will have to keep

1994
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:27,080
doing cool stuff.

1995
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:30,920
Having cash, making something that you like.

1996
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:33,400
And I'm putting the link to the SIP.

1997
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:36,480
I don't know why I haven't done this before in different podcasts, but I'm going to put

1998
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:40,120
a link to the SIP for people to vote on in the chat.

1999
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,280
All right, so there's two links.

2000
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:46,200
Rockies Miguel said, can you send me a link of that page?

2001
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:49,720
That right there is the proposal itself, Rocky, where you can vote.

2002
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:54,360
And then here is the forum post where you can ask questions and talk to Chips and the

2003
01:56:54,360 --> 01:57:00,200
rest of the team who can clarify anything that you'd like to know.

2004
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:05,160
Just so you guys know, although it's written hermit crab, it's 100% me.

2005
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:09,400
I'm the one answering all the calls.

2006
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:14,640
So if you have to yell at someone, Chips is the one you're yelling at.

2007
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:18,240
Remember there's now there's a face on this.

2008
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:22,960
Whenever you call it a stupid or brain damaged person at the hermit crab, you know you're

2009
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:25,400
talking to me.

2010
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:32,600
My opinion after my take after listening to this is it's not necessarily a because I'm

2011
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:37,000
a part of the advisory board and Mateos is part of the advisory board that Mateos is

2012
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:40,720
putting forth a SIP that will only benefit hermit crab studio.

2013
01:57:40,720 --> 01:57:41,720
It doesn't seem like that at all.

2014
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:43,660
It seems more like you do this all the time.

2015
01:57:43,660 --> 01:57:45,840
You're going to do this anyways with or without.

2016
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:49,380
You would like to do this and incorporate the DAO in the sandbox.

2017
01:57:49,380 --> 01:57:51,760
And with this funding, that's what you can do.

2018
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:54,160
That's exactly it.

2019
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:55,160
All right.

2020
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:57,600
Well, now you nailed it.

2021
01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:01,360
Because again, as you mentioned, we were going to do this anyway.

2022
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:06,000
We're going to do this with or without you.

2023
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:13,960
And it will be super awesome if we could do with you because we believe on this and we've

2024
01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:19,080
been working on it since no one ever knew about this.

2025
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:20,080
Yeah.

2026
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:23,280
And long before there was a DAO, long before there was anyone who cared, you were you were

2027
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:24,280
there doing it.

2028
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:33,040
And we were literally hustling there because we were evangelizing, evangelizing everyone

2029
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:34,680
to come to play it.

2030
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,520
And it was really hard to do this on our own.

2031
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:45,680
And now we feel that we have the power to actually do something big here, to actually

2032
01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:51,760
print this and say, come to the sandbox, to the DAO and make it work.

2033
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:57,920
So I'm happy that I even have the chance to do that.

2034
01:58:57,920 --> 01:58:58,920
You know?

2035
01:58:58,920 --> 01:58:59,920
All right.

2036
01:58:59,920 --> 01:59:00,920
Right on.

2037
01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:01,920
Chips.

2038
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:02,920
Excellent.

2039
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:05,400
So, Will, I think we'll end on that note.

2040
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:13,240
That was a good, a great way to address the elephant in the room is what we say.

2041
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:20,120
And do so in a way that makes it clear that this is really the reason why you're here.

2042
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:34,000
So I'm just making a note on my slide as we're talking and then we'll go to the conclusion.

2043
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:35,000
Conclusions.

2044
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:37,880
So it's super cool to talk with Lancer.

2045
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:38,880
What?

2046
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:40,040
No, no, go ahead.

2047
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:41,040
Go ahead.

2048
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:45,120
No, I just said what I should be writing.

2049
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:46,120
Chips.

2050
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:48,600
You're pretty cool, man.

2051
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:49,600
You're pretty cool.

2052
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:50,600
All right.

2053
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:52,800
I see why they made you the business manager.

2054
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,560
All right.

2055
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:58,040
Let's start moving toward a conclusion.

2056
01:59:58,040 --> 01:59:59,040
So future episodes.

2057
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:00,040
All right.

2058
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:01,040
We just concluded.

2059
02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:02,040
We're about to conclude.

2060
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:09,440
Talking with Chips from Hermit Crab Studio about SIP number 10, which is a collection

2061
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:14,840
of blockchain events and not just blocking events, gaming events, blockchain events,

2062
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:19,440
things that are related to the sandbox, which the sandbox DAO with this, the funny that

2063
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:24,440
they're seeking would be incorporated into at the very least Hermit Crab Studio and what

2064
02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:26,560
they want to do later on.

2065
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:29,000
And I was just looking at it.

2066
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:30,000
It's going to happen.

2067
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:31,000
Don't tell me.

2068
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:32,000
Don't tell me.

2069
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:33,000
Don't tell me.

2070
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:34,000
Don't tell me.

2071
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:35,000
11 October?

2072
02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:36,000
Nope.

2073
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:37,000
That was last year.

2074
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:38,000
Shoot.

2075
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:39,000
What is it this year?

2076
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:40,000
Isn't it 22?

2077
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:41,000
What's the event?

2078
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:46,000
The event is 9 to 13 October of this year.

2079
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:50,680
So if you are nearby, take a look and go visit Hermit Crab Studio, who will be there with

2080
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:53,560
or without SIP funding, by the way.

2081
02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:56,480
And all right.

2082
02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:59,240
And the next episode is August 12th.

2083
02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:00,240
So a few days.

2084
02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:01,720
But today is August 12th.

2085
02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:02,720
Wait a minute.

2086
02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:03,720
Wednesday.

2087
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:05,880
I forgot to put it up here yet.

2088
02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:10,680
But my next one is on Wednesday with another SIP author.

2089
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:13,760
And it'll be Mark Baggo.

2090
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:14,760
He'll be doing this.

2091
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:17,200
He'll be doing the Sandbox Academy in the Philippines.

2092
02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:22,280
So as you can see, this show isn't just about one SIP or one idea.

2093
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:23,720
Cover a lot of different SIPs.

2094
02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:26,360
So where we have chips today, we have Mark.

2095
02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:33,320
Anyone who widely wants to use the Dallas resources, this is all about telling the story

2096
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:38,040
and hearing what you all want to do and how you want to do it so that people can see that

2097
02:01:38,040 --> 02:01:43,040
this isn't just some nepotism crazy thing where you're trying to steal money from the

2098
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:44,120
Dallas.

2099
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:45,360
There are real people.

2100
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:47,960
They care and they want to do a good job.

2101
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:50,960
So Sandbox spaces.

2102
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:53,960
Let's go to the next slide.

2103
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:58,080
So if you're able to make it, chips, if not, no big deal.

2104
02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:03,360
But there is Mochaverse Hall happening in an hour and a half for now.

2105
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:04,360
738.

2106
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:05,360
Oh, two, two and a half hours.

2107
02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:06,360
Excuse me from now.

2108
02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:11,600
It's kind of late in the night, but they did that so they can incorporate different different

2109
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:14,800
time zones because they have people from all over the world.

2110
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:17,960
If you are able to show, I'll introduce you to the host.

2111
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:26,300
His name is G and he would be happy to hear the SIP as you want to explain it.

2112
02:02:26,300 --> 02:02:27,920
And it's on Twitter space.

2113
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:31,080
So, is that?

2114
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:32,480
They happen every week.

2115
02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:36,360
Yeah, but just message me if possible and we can.

2116
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:38,440
I'll do that.

2117
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:43,200
All right, and last but not least, who should we raid chips?

2118
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:49,440
Is there anyone that Twitter and Twitch that we should raid?

2119
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:50,440
Not yet.

2120
02:02:50,440 --> 02:02:55,920
I do have a lot of people that I like to on the Mondays, especially.

2121
02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:59,720
But he will be alive in a couple hours.

2122
02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:00,720
No one yet.

2123
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:01,720
Sorry.

2124
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:04,960
So let's look to see if there's anyone on my huddle huddles online.

2125
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:10,000
So she's another person that if you're able to get on her stream huddle hill is a very

2126
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:11,000
well known voice.

2127
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:12,000
She already has 28 people.

2128
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:13,960
Yeah, we're going to raid her.

2129
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:14,960
We'll raid you.

2130
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:16,960
So let's go and initiate that.

2131
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:19,520
What do I have to do?

2132
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:20,520
Right.

2133
02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:26,720
Slash raid huddle hill one L as she likes to say all the time.

2134
02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:29,640
Just one L and.

2135
02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:32,680
Yeah, thank you, Miguel.

2136
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:36,640
You've been Miguel said he's very new to the Dow.

2137
02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:39,640
You've been really the word inquisitive.

2138
02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:41,440
You've been very inquisitive.

2139
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:48,520
So please, if you can make it to Brazil game show, go see hermit crab studio.

2140
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:54,480
And I appreciate you asking so many questions about about the Dow and and what we have going

2141
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:56,360
on here.

2142
02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:57,600
And the raids been created.

2143
02:03:57,600 --> 02:03:59,640
OK, so thank you for your time.

2144
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:01,000
Oh, we got though late.

2145
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:02,240
Wait, wait, I got this.

2146
02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:03,240
Hold on.

2147
02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:08,640
That's where's my.

2148
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:11,640
In portuguese.

2149
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:14,640
In portuguese.

2150
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:16,840
Here we go.

2151
02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:17,840
All right.

2152
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:21,000
Obrigado pelo seu tempo.

2153
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:26,440
Tenha uma ótima noite.

2154
02:04:26,440 --> 02:04:30,160
Thank you for your time and have a great night.

2155
02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:31,160
Thank you so much.

2156
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:34,360
Thank you for having me.