1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,400 All right, everybody. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,120 Welcome. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,120 Good morning. 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:15,520 It is early am if you are Eastern, but it is nighttime if you are Hong Kong and afternoon 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:21,080 if you are in Paris or the United Kingdom or Italy. 6 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:25,840 Welcome to seventh episode seventh edition of the sand out podcast. 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:32,280 We are a podcast all about the sandbox Dow decentralized autonomous organization. 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:41,200 Today we have two special guests continuing our series of speaking with delegations, groups 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,720 and entities. 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:52,200 Partnerships within the sandbox Dow, you know, who is who sort of scenario where we have 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:58,600 Anthony and crypto sheep from Bulls on the Block will be listening to and learning from 12 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:05,720 BOTB and the two of them about what BOTB is, how they play a part in the sandbox. 13 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,160 And I'm looking forward to this very much. 14 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:15,240 So if you haven't gone to their Saturdays, they go, they hit you Saturday every day, 15 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:22,320 every Saturday from at 10 a.m. coming at you from the summer of 2021, as Anthony always 16 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:23,320 says. 17 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:25,880 So we'll get into that and welcome Anthony and crypto sheep. 18 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Hey, thanks, Lancer. 19 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,560 Thanks for having us. 20 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:29,560 Really appreciate it. 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,560 Love, love getting the opportunity to chat about Bulls on the Block. 22 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:40,320 And you know, we we we love the sandbox community sandbox Dow and happy to happy to be a part 23 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:41,320 of it. 24 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:42,320 Love it. 25 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:43,320 Love it. 26 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:46,320 Yes. 27 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:48,040 Thank you for having us, Lancer. 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,920 As always, it's a pleasure to talk to you and our pleasure to talk to you on your platform. 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,520 Yeah, yeah, I know. 30 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,120 So for once, it's my platform. 31 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,120 All the power. 32 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,120 All right. 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,400 So let's run through our normal rigmarole. 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,040 So what is the scope of the talk for today? 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,040 Slide two. 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,960 Scope of the talk is a meet and greet with Anthony, crypto sheep and a learning opportunity 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,680 to learn about Bulls on the Block, otherwise known as BOTB. 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,680 Who are they? 39 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,680 What do they do? 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,680 What do they care about? 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,980 Let's go right into introductions. 42 00:02:17,980 --> 00:02:18,980 My name's Lancer. 43 00:02:18,980 --> 00:02:22,160 I'm the podcast host for Sandel podcast. 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,440 I am a landowner, avatar owner. 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,680 And in the sandbox, I've published two experiences. 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:36,480 I have a business background, contract negotiations background, and I'm also coincidentally a bull. 47 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:44,120 So I own a bull, I own a bear, and I like what BOTB has been doing in the space. 48 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,660 So here I am as one of them as part of the group. 49 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:51,840 So that's me. 50 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,000 And Anthony, let's go to you next. 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Yeah, sure. 52 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Anthony Mungiello. 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:01,960 I've been involved with Web3 since the spring of 2021. 54 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,720 I really, really got started with VFriends. 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:12,400 And so hearing about Gary V and Mark Cuban talking about NFTs got me excited about it. 56 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,040 Got involved in Bulls on the Block initially as a community leader. 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,920 Somebody that was helping to shape how we were going to use our community wallet, which 58 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:25,320 we'll get to as we go through some of the detail. 59 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:31,960 And then ultimately wound up leaving my corporate job, started our own project. 60 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:38,240 And through that effort was able to acquire Bulls on the Block, so became an owner. 61 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,520 And now I'm back in the corporate world. 62 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,920 So doing this on the side again. 63 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,520 And so this is a second and a third job at the moment. 64 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Wow. 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:48,520 Okay. 66 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,880 That's, yeah, I'm going to add that to the question list. 67 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:54,880 And sheep. 68 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,880 Yeah. 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:03,520 I've been into Web3 for about three and a half years right now, and I started out as 70 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:10,000 a community member, minting a lot of mints, done over 100 successful NNT mints, including 71 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,680 Macy's, Other Deeds, and of course Bulls on the Block. 72 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:21,440 And mid 2021, I founded an e-commerce platform, fully token gated, powered by blockchain and 73 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:30,480 NFC technology, making sure that we could grow IP related e-commerce products and being 74 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,560 more involved in DAOs, for example, with the Bulls on the Block DAO, of course, and how 75 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,920 we utilize our community assets. 76 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:46,760 And from there, we are creating our weekly spaces and do a lot of community work and 77 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:52,480 met a lot of great people in Web3, but that is in a nutshell, a little bit what I have 78 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,280 done so far. 79 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:59,080 But we can talk more and more about anything, but it's Bulls on the Block and it's your 80 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,080 platform. 81 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,880 So holy smokes, the two of you. 82 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:05,880 That's quite the introduction. 83 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,440 I wasn't expecting that. 84 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,200 So we've got crypto sheep with what you said, well over 100 mints. 85 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,920 Did I hear you correctly? 86 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,240 Yeah, definitely. 87 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:22,080 Founded an e-commerce platform and then Anthony, you mentioned acquiring BOTB. 88 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,080 So all right. 89 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,080 All right, let's. 90 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:30,480 You know, what's incredible, Lancer, is that the space never ceases to to to Amasia. 91 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,200 You know, there's so many there's so much diverse talent and experience behind all these 92 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,480 PFPs. 93 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,240 And it's all coming together into the in this Web3 space. 94 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:46,920 One of the things that makes makes Web3 special is is the congregation of all these different 95 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,360 backgrounds and different experiences. 96 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,120 And you don't even know it because you're looking at you're looking at PFPs. 97 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,120 And so everyone's on equal footing. 98 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,560 Yeah, I definitely had no idea that was that was that was well done. 99 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,440 All right. 100 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,440 Cool. 101 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,440 Disclaimer. 102 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,440 I need to go on the wrong. 103 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,440 There we go. 104 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,440 Disclaimer. 105 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,160 Anthony, Crypto Sheep and I, we do not represent the Sandbox game or the Sandbox Foundation. 106 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,320 We speak for ourselves as SanFam community members. 107 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,320 Anthony and Crypto Sheep, you do, however, represent BOTB. 108 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,640 So there's there's that. 109 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,560 Regardless, we are not your financial or legal advisors and nothing we say is to be taken 110 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,680 as financial or legal advice. 111 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:37,520 And scoreboard, we'll briefly very briefly go through this. 112 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,600 At this point in time, the past two SIPs, SIP 7 and 8 are closed. 113 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,840 SIP 7, which was about staking for landowners, that will pass. 114 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:50,480 So now we are at seven SIPs approved. 115 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,380 And unfortunately, SIP number eight did not meet quorum. 116 00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:58,440 It only reached about 60 percent quorum of the 30 million required. 117 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:04,000 So it did not pass, making it our first SIP not approved. 118 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,160 And so that's eight SIPs closed. 119 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,000 One is currently in draft on the forums. 120 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,240 That's the SIP about NFT collection by Arthmore. 121 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,960 And MetaWorlds, we've submitted our fourth SIP, which was the fourth one being the Dow 122 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,460 revenue study. 123 00:07:18,460 --> 00:07:26,680 So I think I mentioned that during BOTB last week or this past Saturday, where we are proposing 124 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:35,040 learning from 8coinDAO to do our study of revenue options to get revenue SIPs installed 125 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,720 now versus years down the road when when time is of the essence. 126 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,920 And yeah. 127 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:48,920 And scoreboard, we are at as of right now, 13 percent of our 15.5 million dollar, not 128 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,400 million dollar, million sand budget. 129 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:59,440 So that's we spent 1.9 sand so far of SIPs. 130 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:05,840 That is your SOW, your DAO checkbook in your DAO scoreboard. 131 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,560 So let's just jump right into it now. 132 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,520 The discussion. 133 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,740 Question number one. 134 00:08:10,740 --> 00:08:12,640 What is Bulls on the Block? 135 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Anthony Crypto. 136 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:23,400 Very simply for me, Bulls on the Block is an Ethereum based NFT community, really, really 137 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:29,360 focused on the core values and principles of Web3. 138 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,520 So looking at art is a big focal point. 139 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:40,080 When Bulls on the Block was created, which we'll get to in a bit here, it was very much 140 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:46,120 focused on the art of Rui Duarte, who's a Portuguese artist that really just brought 141 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:51,400 a unique style to the NFT space. 142 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:57,840 It was founded on the principles of Web3 being decentralization. 143 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:03,800 And we had very early on established a community-based wallet, a community-controlled wallet, even 144 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:09,320 before people were really talking about NFT projects being run by DAOs. 145 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:16,480 We had a snapshot vote in place that helped us control how we use the community, the community 146 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,480 wallet. 147 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,200 And then lastly, fun. 148 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,840 It's about having fun. 149 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:29,840 When we look at our history, we had a lot of comic strip based drop, air drop. 150 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,760 And so just fun, playful comic strips. 151 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:42,320 It reminds you of those Saturday morning newspapers and the Sunday newspapers with the comic strips. 152 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,400 Just real fun, real fun art. 153 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:51,200 And we see that with our community's desire to be in metaverse, Sandbox being one of them. 154 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:57,120 And just a place to unwind and have fun with a close-knit community. 155 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,120 Gotcha. 156 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,680 And you said Rui Duarte. 157 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:03,160 How do you spell Rui? 158 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,160 R-U-I. 159 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Okay. 160 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,160 I'm not familiar. 161 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,560 I'll have to do a little bit of Googling. 162 00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:13,440 Okay. 163 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,600 And Sheep, is that about summing up for you as well? 164 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,360 Yeah, definitely. 165 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:24,760 Bulls on the Block was one of those collections in 21 that had a major, major hype. 166 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,960 If you were around that time in 21 and you were minting, you probably have heard about 167 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,440 Bulls on the Block. 168 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:37,040 That being said, our unique holder counts are still 3,000 unique holders around the 169 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,240 collection, but all based on Yu-Ga. 170 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,080 And they are well OGs in this space by now. 171 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:50,920 So they all have good feeling with the spirit of being the people's project, right? 172 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:57,040 So with that being said, we had our community wallet and we are accumulating assets. 173 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:02,660 So what we are doing there, we still have around 20 Ethereum in liquid. 174 00:11:02,660 --> 00:11:05,080 So we can use that with our snapshot. 175 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:10,680 It's a little bit complicated, but it is almost the same process as the Sandbox DAO. 176 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:17,040 Everyone with one BOTB in theory can put up a proposal, get approval by the Bull Council 177 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,680 and then get a proposal up. 178 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:25,120 But our wallet is also filled with Yu-Ga assets, with little Pudgies, with Azuki, Doodles, 179 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,240 CyberKong and a 6x6 Sandbox plot. 180 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:38,200 So when we saw Sandbox going the DAO route, we were inclined to be involved. 181 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,320 And I want to give a big shout out to Gis Us. 182 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,920 He's doing a lot of work for all of us to connect each other. 183 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,120 And he's also a regular visitor in our space. 184 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,520 So he said, please guys participate because you have a lot of voting power, which was 185 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,280 a 6x6 Sandbox plot. 186 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,600 And so we got involved with the BOTB community. 187 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,040 And that being said, I know Anthony already for I think three and a half, like a long 188 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,720 term two years, two and a half years. 189 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,840 And we worked pretty well together. 190 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,360 And we did a lot of cool stuff together and we're still here and still building. 191 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:22,080 So that's a side note because otherwise people don't maybe see the full scope. 192 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:27,960 Yeah, that's why we inclined to be very involved, Lenzel, with the Sandbox DAO because we love 193 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,480 the decentralization. 194 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:35,640 What Anthony mentioned earlier that embodies the spirit of WebTree. 195 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,880 That's both on the block for me too. 196 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,880 Excellent. 197 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,880 Thank you. 198 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:47,760 And you just mentioned you have a coffers, say 30 ETH is what you have right now? 199 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,680 Around 20 Ethereum. 200 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:55,400 There is in the community wallet, so BOTB still has a community wallet and that is around 201 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,560 20 Ethereum in liquid. 202 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:06,880 We still, Lenzel, also have assets like the 6x6 Sandbox plot, which we were not utilizing 203 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,200 till the magic palette SIP6 came along. 204 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:17,640 And SIP6 was the magic palette with AI and opens up a lot of opportunities for us builders 205 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:24,920 and creators to actually get into Sandbox and create more easier some entertainment 206 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,600 for our community and for ourselves. 207 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:34,200 What Anthony mentioned for unwinding and just give more experiences for our community. 208 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,960 Well thank you for voting for magic palette. 209 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,760 Thank you for contributing to that. 210 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,400 Yeah, and they also participated with us, Lenzel. 211 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,800 So it's a mix, right? 212 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:50,720 So we have the Saturday 10am Eastern Space, you have this space, so we always try to find 213 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,960 a win-win-win situation. 214 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,520 I think that is always the goal. 215 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,720 You cannot make everyone happy, but we try. 216 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:04,240 And you meet weekly Saturdays at 10am Eastern Standard via Twitter Space. 217 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:10,280 If you are not following Bulls on the Block, please go do so now. 218 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:16,040 I'll give you a little Bulls right here. 219 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,080 So I'm showing it now on screen. 220 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,640 It's just at Bulls on the Block. 221 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,340 Go ahead and give them a follow. 222 00:14:22,340 --> 00:14:27,280 And then you'll see, well, there's us right there, but there's the recording from just 223 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,360 a few days ago. 224 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,000 And they'll post it there where you can join the Twitter Space every Saturday. 225 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:38,080 Yeah, and we always have our spaces recorded and they're also being published on Spotify 226 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,080 now as well. 227 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,160 And so we've got the last two episodes that are published on Spotify. 228 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,560 So we try to make it as accessible as possible. 229 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,720 We know that people are busy. 230 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,000 Weekends are valuable times, valuable downtime, valuable family time. 231 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,200 And so we want to make sure that people can still get the content, get the message. 232 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,200 That's awesome. 233 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:05,200 And then in the pod reel, I selected the BOTB as one of my recommended podcasts so that 234 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:11,240 we can start to strengthen the cross pollination. 235 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,240 So for BOTB, who are the leaders and decision makers? 236 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,320 Yes, we have two sets of leadership. 237 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:26,720 So we have the ownership side of it, which is myself that is leading the charge there. 238 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,000 And then you have the community side. 239 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,580 And on the community side, we have a Bull Council in place, which Sheep is a member 240 00:15:32,580 --> 00:15:33,580 of. 241 00:15:33,580 --> 00:15:42,080 So there's 10 council members and there's varying degrees of activity and engagement 242 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,080 there. 243 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Crypto Sheep, Big Bull, Cuban Cameraman. 244 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:54,480 These are some of the more active Bull Council members that are driving forward. 245 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,880 And then we partner together to make sure that we're moving forward with what's best 246 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,080 for the project as a whole. 247 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,320 And Bulls on a Block, let's be clear, it's a community driven project. 248 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:12,760 Through it all, through the ownership's ups and downs, the original founders do the acquisition 249 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:18,320 to a point in time when it was completely community driven. 250 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,520 Community has been the driving force behind it. 251 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:27,160 So for me, I try to support the Bull Council as best as possible, making sure that we're 252 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,680 getting the message out and making sure that I'm there to support them. 253 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:36,280 So it's a joint leadership between project team and Bull Council. 254 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,840 Okay. 255 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,200 And I wasn't expecting the ownership piece. 256 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,200 How does that work? 257 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,200 Is BOTB a legal entity and that's how you acquired it? 258 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,200 Or is it just acquiring a website and that's how? 259 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:54,320 Yeah, so we did an asset transfer agreement to get technical with it. 260 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:59,320 I know that your background's contract negotiations, so I'm sure this is familiar to you. 261 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,840 But we didn't acquire Bulls on a Block an entity. 262 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,000 We acquired the assets. 263 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:12,360 And so when we look at the assets, it's website, it's the Web3 contracts, the smart contracts. 264 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:18,120 It is the IP, the project IP. 265 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:26,000 Obviously the community owns, the holders own the NFT IP, but the logo, the name and 266 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,000 all that. 267 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Yeah, the brand IP. 268 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Exactly. 269 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Okay. 270 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,000 Huh, that is fascinating. 271 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,000 I did not. 272 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,000 That's cool. 273 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,000 That's just cool. 274 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:41,800 It's always fun to hear how the sausage making works in the background and what really makes 275 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:48,440 the world go round when it comes to, you know, Web3 is Web3 and also uses Web2 and the rest 276 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,400 of the world as foundation to make things go. 277 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,240 And that's always been fun to me to learn about. 278 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,240 So you have a whole council of... 279 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:07,280 ... challenge in Web3 because you've got this very strong community aspect to Web3 and the 280 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:13,320 community, you know, in the Web2 world, if a company goes out of business, they shut 281 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,960 down their website, they shut their physical store down and that's it. 282 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,000 Everybody goes on their merry way and you find other places to shop and other places 283 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,000 to do business. 284 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Web3 is different. 285 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,800 You've got this community aspect to it where, you know, the community came together as a 286 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,160 social aspect. 287 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,600 It's a part of their personal lives. 288 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,760 So it's not as simple as just shutting it down. 289 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,320 So the original founders didn't have a desire to build a business. 290 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,760 And so you got this weird spot where there's so many people excited about Bulls on the 291 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,000 Block, but the original founders like, now I want to move on to the next thing. 292 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,080 I'm not here for the long term. 293 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,880 You start seeing that over and over again. 294 00:18:53,880 --> 00:19:02,600 So how do you have continuity from an ownership perspective that is aligned to the continuity 295 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,200 that the community wants? 296 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,320 It's two different things often oftentimes. 297 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,320 And so it's... 298 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,800 I don't have the answer to it, but how do you have a sustainable model that makes sure 299 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:20,120 that there's this leadership structure in place that can service the community long 300 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:21,120 term? 301 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:22,680 And you're doing it. 302 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,320 And then, you know, what do you do with the wallet? 303 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,640 That doesn't just go away. 304 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,640 So... 305 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,640 No. 306 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,640 Right. 307 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,880 Yeah, we had a couple times throughout this history where the signers of the wallet, because 308 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:39,480 it's a no-sys safe, so it's a multi-sig environment, the signers kind of disappeared. 309 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,600 And they didn't want to be active anymore. 310 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,400 And so now you're in a situation where like, oh crap, you know, if I've got, you know, 311 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,820 if it's a four out of 10 or six out of 10 that needs to sign and your signers are no 312 00:19:50,820 --> 00:19:55,480 longer active or no longer participating, how do you get those signatures going? 313 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,480 Right? 314 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,800 So there's a lot of challenges to managing this kind of project. 315 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:02,800 Yeah. 316 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,320 And, Cheap, are you about to say something? 317 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Yeah. 318 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,480 Just complementing what you guys say. 319 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,200 We do everything snapshot-based, Lensr. 320 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:16,720 So what Anthony is saying with the multi-sig, you say, explain it to me if I'm a five-year-old. 321 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,340 Like we have the multi-sig. 322 00:20:18,340 --> 00:20:25,060 So you have one wallet, but you need four, five, six people to agree and sign. 323 00:20:25,060 --> 00:20:29,580 But we cannot agree as a bull council, which is also be elected. 324 00:20:29,580 --> 00:20:31,920 So every year we have an election for one year. 325 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:37,480 So we have 10 council members that can actually run for bull council members. 326 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:45,000 But then you also need a proposal like a SIP, our quorum is a thousand votes minimum. 327 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:51,920 And then you need the community to vote for you and say, yes, we want you guys to execute 328 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,840 this transaction. 329 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:59,280 But then again, you need to have an active council, which has been in place for a proper 330 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,280 year right now. 331 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:06,200 And we've done a lot of good stuff, including some metaverse opportunities, getting the 332 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:13,000 bears in 3D and activations with the other platforms. 333 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:20,200 I'm not going to show a platform on sandbox, but great, great, great other guys from from 334 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,800 Nifty Island, for example, they do a lot of builders and they have the builder economy, 335 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,400 the creator economy. 336 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,080 And yeah, we're just creating a lot of cool events. 337 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:37,680 Cuban, one of the members of the council is also creating like videos so people can promote 338 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,240 their videos of their islands. 339 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,400 And he wants to also bring that over to sandbox, right? 340 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:51,300 So that everyone can have a beautiful showcase reel of their island, which they are proud 341 00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:55,360 of because they spend hours and hours and hours and hours of building it. 342 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:58,840 And you also need a good promotion to show that. 343 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:04,280 So we have a good combination of bull council and we always meet with Anthony every week 344 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,160 with the company. 345 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,960 It's Anthony, but like it's the company and we just align our visions and he gives us 346 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,440 support where needed. 347 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,440 And it's a very pleasant cooperation like this. 348 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,160 Yeah, that's fascinating how the two coexist like that. 349 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:27,240 So bull council of 10 re-elected annually, you need 1000 voting power for a quorum. 350 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,920 And then the multi-sig is one wallet, but multiple signatures are required to sign for 351 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:31,920 transactions. 352 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,920 Awesome. 353 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,640 I didn't know. 354 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,800 I didn't know what multi-sig was. 355 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,240 I thought maybe that's what it was, but wasn't sure. 356 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,480 All right. 357 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,640 The summer of 2021 and BOTB is forming. 358 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,720 You all say that quite frequently coming at you from the summer of 2021. 359 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,800 What is the story of the summer of 2021? 360 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:05,800 Yeah, so you had this situation where, similar to me, where there was a lot of buzz around 361 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,680 NFTs that was going outside the crypto space. 362 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,100 And so you've had a lot of new entrants in the spring of 2021. 363 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:21,120 You had a lot of new entrants into the NFT space, a lot of normies coming in and we're 364 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:22,240 starting to get interested. 365 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,640 What's this new technology? 366 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,880 What's this buzz about? 367 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:33,240 You had crypto punks early in 2021 starting to really take shape and take form. 368 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:41,080 They were obviously released before 2021, but it started to make some press of what 369 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,080 are these crypto punks? 370 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,160 You started seeing it in the news a bit. 371 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,080 You're hearing Mark Cuban, you're hearing Gary Vee, you're hearing some of these prominent 372 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,640 people talking about NFTs and NFTs being the future. 373 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,920 You had the dog, M&Ms, all over the place. 374 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,840 You had what was the webs that started coming in. 375 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:04,760 You had in the spring, you had Yuga put the Board Ape Yacht Club out and Board Ape Yacht 376 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,680 Club started making a splash. 377 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,520 Gary Vee did the Vee Friends. 378 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,160 Vee Friends was a very successful mint. 379 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:18,800 So the three original founders, you had Rui, Damp, and Bobo. 380 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,200 Damp and Bobo were the devs. 381 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,720 Rui was the artist. 382 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,880 They met in the Yuga ecosystem. 383 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,000 They minted Board Ape Yacht Club. 384 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,640 They met in the Board Ape Yacht Club. 385 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,280 They connected there. 386 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:40,040 They started talking about could we do our own project, have a unique set of art with 387 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,880 Rui, Damp, and Bobo doing the tech. 388 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,320 So they started talking about that in the Yuga community. 389 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,080 So there was this connection to Yuga. 390 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,640 There was a lot of buzz coming out of it. 391 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,080 You had a lot of people who minted Yuga, flipping them, making a lot of money. 392 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,920 So there's a lot of extra eith flying around that community. 393 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,360 And so there was a lot of buzz and excitement. 394 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,880 Then Rui started doing some sneak peeks of his art. 395 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,240 And everyone's like, holy crap, this art is sick. 396 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,600 It's awesome. 397 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:22,760 So there was this real huge momentum going into the end of June when BOTB minted. 398 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,240 And so coming into this, you also had a lot of crypto savvy people mixed in with people 399 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,480 like myself who were pretty new to NFTs but was excited about Bulls on a Block. 400 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,520 And so the crypto savvy people understood this concept of gas. 401 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:43,940 And they understood that you can override the gas that your transaction recommends. 402 00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:47,720 And you could override it so you can get priority on the mint. 403 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:53,360 So you can imagine if there's 10 NFTs available but there's 100 people that are trying to 404 00:25:53,360 --> 00:26:00,640 execute those 10 NFTs at the same time, the blockchain has to choose who goes first. 405 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,060 The validation of the transaction, there has to be a choice. 406 00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:07,900 And the choice is made on who's paying the most gas. 407 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:12,580 So the crypto savvy people said, OK, if it's telling me it's a dollar of gas, I'm going 408 00:26:12,580 --> 00:26:14,620 to make it $100. 409 00:26:14,620 --> 00:26:16,040 And then the next person say, oh, guess what? 410 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,040 I'm going to make it $200. 411 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,040 Wait a minute. 412 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,220 Are you the reason for the gas wars, Anthony? 413 00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:23,160 Is that what you're about to tell me? 414 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,360 Bulls on a Block was the reason for the gas wars, yes. 415 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:29,320 Oh my gosh. 416 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,320 I lost out. 417 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,000 You're the reason why I paid $200 in gas, huh? 418 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Yes. 419 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,280 I was somewhat of a newbie there, right? 420 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,060 And I had no idea about this overriding gas. 421 00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:44,560 And so I didn't get a chance to mint Bulls on a Block, although I had my laptop on the 422 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,380 beach with me and I was ready to go. 423 00:26:47,380 --> 00:26:49,960 But I got gassed out. 424 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,860 So I bought it on secondary right afterwards. 425 00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:56,920 But all the crypto savvy people understood that you can override the gas and get priority. 426 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,420 And so that's how this thing sold out in three minutes. 427 00:27:00,420 --> 00:27:04,320 And it was a massive, massive gas wars. 428 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,320 Well there you have it, folks. 429 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,720 Do you want to know the reason for gas wars? 430 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,360 You're looking at them right now. 431 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:14,080 Both of them. 432 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,600 I did not know that. 433 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,600 So that's why you mentioned gas wars. 434 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,600 All right. 435 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,600 Hey, we live and we learn. 436 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,640 Obviously, there's a lot of disappointed people. 437 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,080 And so what Rui did was they created a gas wars NFT. 438 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:36,760 So if your transaction failed because of the gas wars, and you lost gas money, because 439 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,720 you could lose that gas even though your transaction didn't go through. 440 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,400 So they created a bull with a gas mask. 441 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:49,200 And they did some air drops to people who were victims of the gas wars. 442 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,200 That's good. 443 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,200 That's good. 444 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,200 Making them whole like that. 445 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:59,080 I'm sure I lost gas money as well, I probably wasn't even tracking the end of air drop. 446 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,840 That's okay though. 447 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,440 Long history passed. 448 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,840 So minted out in three minutes in the summer of 2021. 449 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,680 And what was interesting is, so you had all this momentum for the mint. 450 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,240 Clearly this thing was going to mint out and people were, Discord was crazy. 451 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,920 It was going nuts. 452 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,800 The devs talk about being cheap on gas. 453 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:29,160 They put a low, to open up the contract, they put a low gas amount in, very low. 454 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:35,200 And it wound up taking 45 minutes for the contract to open because they had such a low 455 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,200 gas amount that would be cheap with the amount of gas that they wanted to spend on the contract. 456 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:47,080 So you had a few thousand people, 10,000 people all waiting to mint. 457 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,680 And we're waiting for 45 minutes for the contract to open because they put such a low gas amount 458 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,680 on. 459 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,680 These are games I don't know how to play. 460 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,680 That's fascinating to hear. 461 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:05,320 Yeah, so I'm sitting on the beach and I told my wife, oh, I just got to go on the laptop 462 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,320 quick. 463 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,320 I'm going to do this mint. 464 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,600 And she's like, all right, be quick. 465 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,160 This is family time. 466 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,360 And then of course we're waiting for the contract. 467 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,360 She's like, what are you doing? 468 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,360 I'm like, it's any minute. 469 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,360 It's any minute. 470 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,360 Any minute now. 471 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:22,440 And then we wait five minute wait and not even minting, getting gas out. 472 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,440 She was not happy. 473 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,480 And then the prices shoot up to one, two Ethereum, some six Ethereum, seven Ethereum. 474 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,860 So it was a crazy NFT summer. 475 00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:37,720 And that's exactly why this is nostalgic. 476 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,200 That never comes back, Lander. 477 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,360 And we are part of that. 478 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:46,760 And Antony, the excitement, that is exactly, exactly what happened in 21. 479 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,720 And a lot of our holders are like this. 480 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,960 So it's a special NFT project for a lot of people. 481 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,520 Yeah, it's just a very special NFT project. 482 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:02,680 And now with the governance, the structure, the snapshot voting, the decentralized nature, 483 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,480 comics was always in the DNA. 484 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,600 The Rui always drew comics as well. 485 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:15,360 So the community picked that up to just further the DNA in a decentralized way, like finding 486 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,440 a way hybrid between the company and the community wallet. 487 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,920 But it is separated, of course. 488 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:26,560 But it's a very unique project in many aspects. 489 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,880 And all the real diehards are still around. 490 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,520 And maybe you see it as well. 491 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:39,520 Some big holders and not the bigger names in the industry, the thought leaders, the inspirations. 492 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,960 They come to our spaces, not because we are not cool people, but we are the same people, 493 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,960 right? 494 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,000 We give each other so much value every week. 495 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,120 And we find each other through Bulls on the Block. 496 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:57,960 And people might wonder, we talk about bulls, but you have a bear PFP. 497 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,360 And Bulls and Bears are one project. 498 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,920 It's of course a different collection. 499 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,040 But this is like the companion collection of the Bulls. 500 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,560 And people got a free mint for bears. 501 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,800 So you could mint your bear for free if you hold it a bull. 502 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,600 And a lot of people did that, of course. 503 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:25,000 And I personally love this bear so much because this collection holds two very strong characters, 504 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,880 the male and the female, which is quite rare in NFT collections. 505 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,600 And what I find really cool is that the females are ranked higher than the male characters. 506 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,000 So yeah, it's really cute. 507 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,020 And I love building IP on the side as well. 508 00:31:43,020 --> 00:31:49,360 So this is one project with the art that is really dear to my heart as a collector. 509 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,120 That's really cool, Jeep. 510 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,120 That's really cool. 511 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,120 All right. 512 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,120 Well, now I know. 513 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,120 Now I know. 514 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,160 But the significance is behind that every time you say it. 515 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,160 Cool. 516 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,640 Thank you for sharing that. 517 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,640 That was awesome. 518 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,640 All right. 519 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,920 The BOTB community itself. 520 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:17,320 What is important to the BOTB community? 521 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:22,000 Right now we're in the middle of a bit of a strategy. 522 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,760 And we started taking a look in December of last year into January. 523 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:33,080 We're looking at, we're floundering a bit. 524 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:39,600 Yet again, there was some ownership changes in the fall of last year. 525 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:46,280 In our pre-show, I mentioned that we had investors who were no longer interested in continuing 526 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,680 in the crypto space. 527 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:53,720 So the parent company, Bold and Apes Project, which acquired Bulls on the Block, there were 528 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,160 some changes of leadership at that level. 529 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,240 Some of those questions about where the future was going to go and how this was going to 530 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,240 work. 531 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:08,600 There was a lot of frustration, rightfully so, in the community on yet another bit of 532 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,840 drama and change on the ownership front that's been a bit of a roller coaster ride for Bulls 533 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,320 on the Block, as it is for other projects as well. 534 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,120 And so we got together and we said, OK, what's the strategy? 535 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,120 Where are we going to go? 536 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:31,160 And this is when Sheep and Big Bull in particular said, OK, we're going to focus on participating 537 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:38,960 in DAOs because we want to establish our Web3 presence to show that Bulls on the Block is 538 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:46,480 active, is engaged, cares about the future of Web3 so that we have the right foundation 539 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:54,520 in place for us to then leverage that to start expanding the brand outside of the Web3 space, 540 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,960 which is a future phase of this strategy. 541 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,320 So right in the middle of the strategy of saying, OK, where are the areas that we can 542 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:07,960 get involved that allow us to reestablish Bulls on the Block as a reference project, 543 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,040 as a project that is heavily engaged? 544 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,560 And Sandbox is one of those areas. 545 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,840 Sheep mentioned Nifty Island. 546 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,000 We're also very heavily active in the Apecoin DAO. 547 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:26,960 And so those are three areas where we said that we can establish our presence, make sure 548 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,640 that people remember that, hey, Bulls on the Block from Summer of 2021 is still around, 549 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:38,840 still here, still engaged, still a meaningful part of the overall Web3 ecosystem. 550 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,960 OK. 551 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,600 So you're involved in Sandbox, DAO. 552 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,680 So when you started focusing on the DAOs, was that in January 2023 or later? 553 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,680 In 2024. 554 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:53,680 That's this year. 555 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,680 January 2024. 556 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,680 OK. 557 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:56,680 Yeah. 558 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,680 OK. 559 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:03,120 So January 2023 saw some changes in the BOTB ownership and Bulls on Ape project. 560 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,360 Yeah, that was the fall of 2023, so October of 2023. 561 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,360 October. 562 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,360 OK, got it. 563 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,360 OK. 564 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:16,480 So in January 2024, you started shifting focus to DAOs to be good community members and really 565 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,640 plug in that way. 566 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:27,800 So Sandbox DAO, Nifty Islands and Apecoin DAO. 567 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,080 OK. 568 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,460 And what is a delegation and how is it important to BOTB? 569 00:35:33,460 --> 00:35:35,960 I keep hearing 260,000. 570 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,560 Sheep, sheep, what are we at now? 571 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,200 Sheep, I think we're at around the 200,000. 572 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,640 So we are fluctuating about 200, 300,000 because when you have a delegation, but this is the 573 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,240 Ape delegation and Lancer. 574 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:53,840 We are talking now with Apecoin delegation. 575 00:35:53,840 --> 00:36:02,160 So we also have a six by six plot, which gives us around 150,000 voting power in the Sandbox. 576 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:08,920 So people that want to find us for a SIP, a Sandbox Improvement Proposal, can reach 577 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,320 out to us for 150,000 voting power. 578 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:19,720 And we have a place for them every week on our Saturday, 10am Eastern space, because 579 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:21,280 we want to hear from the authors. 580 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,280 We want to learn. 581 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,760 We want to educate ourselves, but also our community and just create a good platform 582 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,500 for everyone to learn. 583 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:37,080 Apart from the Apecoin delegation, we are fluctuating between 200,000 and 300,000 Apecoin 584 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:42,840 and we are always looking for ways to expand and grow our Apecoin delegation. 585 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:49,520 And we do that, for example, with Tank Ape and Tank Ape is an initiative where our community 586 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:56,320 members can participate, creating content, replying on Twitch, creating a treads, making 587 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:02,960 video content, and then our delegation grows about 2,000, 5,000 Ape per month, because 588 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:11,320 that's a rewarding system funded by Apecoin DAO also via an AIP. 589 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,880 And we are tapping into that potential as well, which is another Synergy 360 win. 590 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,840 Our community members get some extra Ape. 591 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:27,360 We grow our delegation, we give a spot for value on our show, which is now also, I think 592 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:35,800 we can consider it a podcast because it's being edited professionally by Danny and also 593 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,800 and thank you, Danny. 594 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,280 Yeah, Danny is an amazing like you and like what there are so many people with value that 595 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,800 we've met during the years. 596 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:50,520 And yeah, it's just incredible that the opportunities are here and with every DAO, for example, 597 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,480 the Open Compass, they have the Educhain, there's a DAO too. 598 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,840 So every community asset we own and what I said, we have the little Pudgee, Azuki, Cyber 599 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,200 Kong, Sandbox, Macy, other deeds. 600 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:10,880 So every asset we have in our community wallet and they have an interesting ecosystem, then 601 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,120 we want to participate as a community and of course our community will also participate 602 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,160 in their community. 603 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:23,720 So we are really trying to find the cross community DAOs, which is also for everyone 604 00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,680 beneficial because then we are not competing with each other. 605 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,640 Like what Anthony always say, there's enough pie for all of us to eat, but he has a real 606 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,760 good one liner for that. 607 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,200 So I can give the mic to him, but that's the pie. 608 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,200 It's his tagline. 609 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,640 For the pie, don't fight over a slice. 610 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,800 Yeah, I agree with that completely. 611 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,040 So an arising tide lifts all boats. 612 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,960 So we are on the same path, right? 613 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:59,440 And that's why we want to participate in DAO because we have a lot of investors and seasoned 614 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:06,160 OGs and NFT players and they understand the crypto game and they just want to participate. 615 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,480 This is not with their talent, their time, the treasury, but they feel comfortable in 616 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:18,640 participating and helping provide value rather than just all take it for their own. 617 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,760 So yeah, this is a positioning that BOTB I think feels really comfortable with and also 618 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,800 the community members. 619 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,320 And yeah, we attract good people. 620 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:34,000 Let's take a step back on the six by six clock also. 621 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:40,360 This goes back again to the summer, fall, I think it was the fall of 21. 622 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:48,660 And Sandbox was just starting to talk through selling Lint and they didn't have public mint 623 00:39:48,660 --> 00:39:49,660 at the time. 624 00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:52,040 It was all done through private sales initially. 625 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,960 So this is before it was publicly available. 626 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,700 And because Bulls on a Block had such a prominent name in the space, we were one of the projects 627 00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:05,960 that was able to work with Sandbox directly and executed the private sale. 628 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,520 And so that private sale was done early on. 629 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:15,120 We were one of a select number of communities and I mean, those celebrities that were involved 630 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,280 in it too, that was able to purchase land privately. 631 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:25,360 So the six by six plot was a private purchase directly with Sandbox that we were able to 632 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,440 execute as part of the community wallet. 633 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,880 And that was mid 2022? 634 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,000 No, that was 2021. 635 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000 2021. 636 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Wow. 637 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,000 How about that? 638 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,040 So you're an OG and I didn't even know it. 639 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,040 Yeah. 640 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,040 Yeah. 641 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,040 Wow. 642 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,040 Okay. 643 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,640 I think at a certain point, Lenz, I think our plot was half a mil. 644 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,640 Yeah. 645 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,640 Dollar based. 646 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,640 Right. 647 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,640 Yeah. 648 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,320 I remember fighting over little 80-bit one by ones and here you are coming in hot with 649 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,320 the six by six. 650 00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,320 Wow. 651 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,320 All right. 652 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,320 That's so you're so delegation. 653 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,320 Go ahead. 654 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,320 Go ahead. 655 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,320 Sheep. 656 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:12,560 So you can imagine with the delegation, we all can provide more information like the 657 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,960 sip six with the magic palette that we can finally get some perspective in creating the 658 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,000 user experience we all wanted from long ago. 659 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:28,240 So this is also a nostalgic project for us and we want to make it so that we can also 660 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:35,440 show that we finally done it because we see some 3D assets from the beers 3D for fully 661 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,440 rigged playing. 662 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,040 But now we want to go to the sandbox as well. 663 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,040 Yeah. 664 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,720 So help me out. 665 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:49,360 I tried searching for BOTB and I found one cryptic tweet or maybe it was a face Discord 666 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,360 message that said find me in the left corner of the map and I've been hunting for you and 667 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,000 I cannot find you. 668 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,000 Where are y'all next? 669 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,000 Next to Binance. 670 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,000 Next to Binance. 671 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,000 All right. 672 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,000 So Bans it down here. 673 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,440 It's like you have a spot with the bull. 674 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,800 We have a six by six. 675 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,800 So it should. 676 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,840 All right. 677 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,040 Can you see yourself from here? 678 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,680 Because I can't see you right now. 679 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,680 I don't see the live stream. 680 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,680 This one. 681 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,680 Oh. 682 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,560 Oh. 683 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,560 Need the location? 684 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,560 Yes. 685 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,560 What's the location? 686 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:41,560 The location of the plots are. 687 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:49,320 Which one do you want to find it 90 it's minus one to six. 688 00:42:49,320 --> 00:43:00,320 And minus one eight eight one eight eight minus one to six minus one eight one eight 689 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:08,840 one eight eight one hundred eighty eight minus one hundred twenty six minus one hundred 690 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,840 eighty eight. 691 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,840 All right. 692 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:18,600 You got pretty good eyes then. 693 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:24,840 I see you scouting all over the land. 694 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:25,840 All right. 695 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,400 There you have it. 696 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,800 Negative one twenty six minus one eighty eight. 697 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,520 Cool. 698 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,920 Thank you. 699 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,920 Thank you. 700 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,400 I could not hunt it down. 701 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,160 I tried looking up your your wallets. 702 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,760 I tried Google searching. 703 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,760 I tried everything. 704 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,480 All right. 705 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,480 Cool. 706 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,920 So clearly BOTB has a deep connection with the sandbox. 707 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,440 You've been around for a while. 708 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:03,640 You've been involved almost pretty much since the beginning and and you have a strong delegation 709 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,760 in eight point Dow. 710 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:10,960 So delegation does that just mean like a block of voters who decided to vote together. 711 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,960 Yes. 712 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:23,640 So what it means is that each each individual person may have a set of votes for for now. 713 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:31,280 And a delegation is that those individuals saying hey I want I want this entity to vote 714 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,980 on my behalf. 715 00:44:32,980 --> 00:44:37,200 So in this particular case it's saying I want Bulls on the Block to vote on my behalf. 716 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,920 So if I've got a hundred sand I'm going to delegate that hundred sand to Bulls on the 717 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,280 Block and Bulls on the Block is going to vote on my behalf. 718 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:52,000 Now the the way Bulls on the Block votes is by putting up our own proposal. 719 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,000 So we mirror the proposal. 720 00:44:54,000 --> 00:45:00,640 So if there's a sip we have that sip on our snapshot and we allow all of the Bulls on 721 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,880 the Block community to vote on on that particular that particular sip. 722 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:11,560 And so now all of those delegated votes vote based on the Bulls on the Block vote of the 723 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,560 sip. 724 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,560 OK. 725 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,200 So however that vote goes thus follows the BOTB vote. 726 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,240 All right. 727 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:21,320 Awesome. 728 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,680 And then in order to do your vote you need the multi SIG. 729 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,640 So you need the council to approve. 730 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,640 Yeah. 731 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:29,640 Right on. 732 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,640 OK. 733 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,640 No. 734 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,640 Makes sense. 735 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,640 OK. 736 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,640 Excellent. 737 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,520 Thank you for explaining that. 738 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,960 I am very, very new to delegations. 739 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,800 I didn't even really know what they were 60 days ago. 740 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,240 So here we go. 741 00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:48,720 All right. 742 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:49,840 What have you voted on thus far? 743 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:50,840 You said Magic Pallet. 744 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,320 Have you voted on anything else? 745 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,480 Yeah we voted I think on almost everything. 746 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,760 So from day one sip one two three four five six I think seven and eight. 747 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:09,040 I think seven we did but eight we didn't because we couldn't get all the signers on time because 748 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:17,600 actually don't allow delegation the same way as Apecoin yet but they are working on it. 749 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:24,300 But for the Apecoin we can always mirror the snapshot on our own snapshot and snapshot 750 00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:29,840 is the tool the website where you can vote and it's all on chain. 751 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:35,260 So what the beauty is with BOTB we you can vote with your BOTB right. 752 00:46:35,260 --> 00:46:41,320 So you can buy one BOTB and you will get more voting power than actually owning 100 Ape 753 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,320 yourself. 754 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:50,360 So if you buy 100 Ape yourself you almost have less voting power than you buy one BOTB 755 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:55,360 and you get all those additional cool value from us. 756 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,760 So if you own a bear and a bull you get voting power for both. 757 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,680 Yeah and then yeah. 758 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:02,680 All right. 759 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,040 So I'm a voter. 760 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,160 Yeah how about that? 761 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,720 Quite influential actually. 762 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,680 So I think you have two right. 763 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,280 I do yes. 764 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:19,240 So two equals I think at current prices around 150 Ape. 765 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:21,160 So it's not too shabby. 766 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:29,280 If you buy the 158 and vote for yourself into an AIP on the Apecoin proposals it is equivalent 767 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:35,720 of owning two BOTBs a bear or a bull. 768 00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:39,040 Is 150,000 voting power is two BOTBs? 769 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,280 Yeah around yeah. 770 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,880 Okay is about okay. 771 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,720 Cool. 772 00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:53,200 Well I shall wield the power responsibly. 773 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,640 Okay so what criteria do you use to vote on SIPs and how do you vote? 774 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,840 Oh by the way Pepe says thank you for the Magic Palette vote. 775 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,840 Yeah. 776 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:10,040 Nice little love emoji in the chat. 777 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,000 And he was still reaching out and Anthony I think has a hard stop in 10 minutes. 778 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,280 I don't know when we need to wrap it up. 779 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:25,480 But we vote what is an accelerating for us as a community to empower us to build in sandbox 780 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,720 to get the consumer experiences that we want to provide right. 781 00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:34,720 And the staking opportunities is good for us because then we can stake in our community 782 00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:42,040 for our community which we can then use to get user incentives to create rewards programs 783 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,520 to get stuff done. 784 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,080 So that kind of things are really important for us. 785 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,800 Governance is also very interesting but for specific people for me, Big Bull, I think 786 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,400 Anthony loves it too. 787 00:48:54,400 --> 00:49:00,320 But just that that kind of side is not for everyone but the major is like what I mentioned 788 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,320 before. 789 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,320 Gotcha. 790 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:08,160 So you want to empower you want to vote for things that empower BOTB to build the experiences 791 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,800 that you want to provide within the sandbox. 792 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:19,440 Ultimately we want to see sandbox grow and grow in engagement and similar to Bulls on 793 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:26,840 the Block sandbox had just a massive amount of excitement when you think about 2021 into 794 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,840 2022. 795 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,960 And we want to be part of reestablishing that. 796 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,440 We want to reestablish the excitement with Bulls on the Block. 797 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:40,000 We want to reestablish the excitement with sandbox and really get sandbox on the map 798 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,480 the way that we think it should be. 799 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:49,080 And so it's really important. 800 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,640 The lean is to vote yes. 801 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,620 We want to see activity. 802 00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:58,260 We want to see people that want to build and we want those people to get rewarded. 803 00:49:58,260 --> 00:50:01,400 We want to make sure that these proposals are going forward. 804 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,880 Now it doesn't mean we're going to vote yes on every single one or lean towards yes on 805 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,280 every single one but activity is good. 806 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,200 Getting people that want to build is good. 807 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,200 The ideas might not all be perfect but activity is important. 808 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,280 When you think about a metaverse area the more activity the better. 809 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,200 The more activity that's there that grows that becomes magnetic. 810 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,740 And so we love that the Dow is in place. 811 00:50:27,740 --> 00:50:31,560 We love that there's people that are putting proposals forward. 812 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,240 It's why we have the Saturday Space. 813 00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:39,800 We want authors to come out and to talk about their ideas because that becomes contagious. 814 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,960 It grows on itself and then you get the global effect. 815 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,440 Absolutely. 816 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,960 And Pepe was a shining example of that. 817 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:55,760 I listened to him go on BOTB a few weeks ago and give his presentation of what the SIP 818 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,760 was. 819 00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,520 And you all graciously considered it and provided your vote and that's how it is. 820 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,520 That's how it goes. 821 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:08,400 So if you are a SIP author as well, Saturday mornings 10 a.m. Eastern, Bulls on the Blocks, 822 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,080 Twitter space, just show up. 823 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:16,040 Show up and as Sheep says often, it only takes one little click in the bottom left hand of 824 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,800 your phone, that little icon where you can say hello and then tell them what you're up 825 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:22,800 to. 826 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:29,360 Even if you're thinking about a SIP though, I would recommend you come on and talk about 827 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,720 it because the more you talk about something, the more you write it down, the more you iterate 828 00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:38,520 through it, the better your ultimate proposal is going to be. 829 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:43,800 So even if you're thinking about a proposal and you've got an idea or you've got a draft, 830 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,280 come on and chat about it. 831 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,600 It's a good place to be able to bounce the ideas around and help shape your proposal. 832 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:50,600 Okay. 833 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,200 We have seven minutes. 834 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,200 Let's try and rapid fire this as best I can. 835 00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:01,760 BOTB organizing and communicating mostly through Twitter space, also Discord as I've learned 836 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,960 and Spotify podcast. 837 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,960 Thank you, Danny. 838 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,640 Yes, absolutely. 839 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,400 What other DAO spaces are you involved in? 840 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,600 I heard Apecoin DAO. 841 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,600 Does Nifty have a DAO? 842 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:23,320 Not a DAO, but a lot of community spaces, so we are there as an invite, as a key community 843 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,320 members. 844 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,320 Okay. 845 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:32,160 We were one of the first 150 projects that are eligible for their upcoming airdrop. 846 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,280 There's the island token. 847 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,840 If you play and participate in their ecosystem, which is incredible, but we were one of the 848 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,840 first official 150 partners from the launch. 849 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:45,840 Got you. 850 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:46,840 For Nifty? 851 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:47,840 For Nifty, yeah. 852 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:48,840 Got it. 853 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:49,840 Okay. 854 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,800 BOTB spaces, is there a specific layout agenda? 855 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,440 If a SIP author wants to come, do they know to come in the beginning or later on? 856 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,320 Yes, we try to keep the show to two hours. 857 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:08,240 What we do is upfront, we'll do some intros and we go, whoever's a speaker, we just do 858 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:09,240 some quick intros. 859 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:15,960 Then we give the authors, so whoever the guest speakers are, we give the authors time to 860 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:21,240 talk through their proposal and we'll ask them some questions. 861 00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:25,760 If we get through all of the authors, we'll go into more free form. 862 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,680 All the authors are welcome to comment on other proposals as well as their speakers 863 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,560 on stage. 864 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:38,760 We just ask that the authors get a few minutes to talk about their proposal upfront and then 865 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,560 we go through questions. 866 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:47,400 Raising your hand is a good way to get your question or if there's a natural place for 867 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,640 you to jump in, we're not super formal about it. 868 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:52,640 Okay. 869 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,200 That went right into the next question, which was the decorum. 870 00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:01,040 I was trying to learn that, especially over the past few weeks, is do I raise my hand? 871 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,320 Do I find a natural pause? 872 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:08,560 Is it breaking decorum to come off mute without raising your hand? 873 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,640 It sounds like both, but tastefully. 874 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,400 To get comfortable, raising your hand is an obvious way. 875 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:21,400 Between Sheep and I, we make sure that we get to people that have their hands raised. 876 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:28,400 But if you're comfortable on spaces and get where the breaks are and where to jump in, 877 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,360 you're more than welcome to do that without raising your hand also. 878 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,360 Got it. 879 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,360 Okay. 880 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,760 Just make sure it's tasteful and not overly intrusive. 881 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,640 Especially when the authors are doing their intro to the proposal, give them the space 882 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,760 to talk through their proposal. 883 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:44,760 Okay. 884 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,000 So, working closer than their delegation space. 885 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:55,040 Yes, Nifty Islands was one of the first 150 projects approved. 886 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,640 So, we're good on that one. 887 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,920 We're blowing right through this. 888 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,200 I think we're going to make it. 889 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,440 We're going to make it. 890 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:06,080 How do we think about BOTB in relation to other spaces, DALs and organizations? 891 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:12,440 What immediately came to mind was Mocha CN, other things like that. 892 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:18,880 We would love to participate more with anyone that hosts these kind of formats. 893 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:24,680 For example, the Mocha United Grand Hall from GSOS is a beautiful space. 894 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,920 Now it's moved up 12 hours later. 895 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:31,000 So it's in the middle of the night for me as a European time zone. 896 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,240 But for the Asian time zone, it's very comfortable. 897 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:41,520 We do the Saturday time slot that will be our time slot because that is the most consistent 898 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,080 timeframe for all of us. 899 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,320 I know it's weekend, so you need to enjoy the families. 900 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,900 But for us, it's like the perfect time slot without competing. 901 00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:59,920 But we would love to get more Asian time zones, Australian time zones into our space, which 902 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:02,040 is quite hard to do. 903 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,760 But we try to jump in in other spaces as much as we can. 904 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,560 So please send us an invite that pulls on the block. 905 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:14,360 X account, just send the link to your space and we will try to join with the official 906 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,560 account to your space when and where possible. 907 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:18,760 That'd be great. 908 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:19,760 That's awesome. 909 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:20,760 Okay. 910 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:26,840 So Mocha CN, if you are Asian or Australian spaces, please send BOTB an invite. 911 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,600 They would love to participate. 912 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,080 And let's close with what is next for BOTB. 913 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,080 What's on the horizon? 914 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:41,600 Yeah, I think continuing to establish the Web3 presence is the most immediate for us 915 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:49,560 to continue with Nifty Island, to continue with the sandbox, continue with 8coinDAO. 916 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:58,120 But then from being supportive in the process, we also want to shift to being active. 917 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:03,800 I envision Bulls on the Block having proposals in sandbox DAO. 918 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:09,560 I envision Bulls on the Block having proposals in the 8coinDAO. 919 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:16,560 So at some point in the midterm, I see us certainly continuing to support, but then 920 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:21,480 also being more active in those ecosystems. 921 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:29,280 Midterm, the strategy is for us to then leverage our brand IP to bring in fresh community members 922 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,080 from outside the space. 923 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,160 I think that's over the next 12 months or so. 924 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:42,720 But the immediate is continuing our support and establishing ourselves as a key delegation. 925 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:50,160 And then midterm is being more active in those DAOs with proposals of our own, hopefully, 926 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:54,440 where we're helping to build, not just support. 927 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,880 Awesome. 928 00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:00,200 More participation in the DAOs, building, and expanding support. 929 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,600 Well, Sheep, Anthony, thank you both very much for your time. 930 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:09,040 Really appreciate you learning about BOTB, what it is you do, and how you vote, and what 931 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,080 your plans are to participate. 932 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,080 Thank you. 933 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,080 Well, thank you. 934 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,080 Thank you, Lancer. 935 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:20,200 All right, tomorrow, interview with Seb. 936 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:26,960 And this was Sandow podcast seven with Anthony and Crypto Sheep from BOTB. 937 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:47,360 Thank you both for your time.