1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,260 What's up everybody? 2 00:00:11,260 --> 00:00:17,860 We are back again for the sixth podcast episode for Sandow. 3 00:00:17,860 --> 00:00:24,640 Sandow is the SandboxDow podcast, or a podcast about the SandboxDow, where we talk about 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:31,280 everything having to do with our community here in the Sand Fam and all the stuff that affects it. 5 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,640 All the stuff that matters to us. 6 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Everything from sips to the players in them and everything that we need to do to be healthy. 7 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:51,080 So today I have a very special guest, old one, of Lulu Land fame and MochaCien. 8 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:56,140 If you've been a Sandbox player for a little while, then you've likely played Lulu Land 9 00:00:56,140 --> 00:01:00,720 or some of the other experiences that old one has published. 10 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,000 Old one is that, I think from season one or season two, big train station in the beginning 11 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:15,520 and has a lot of positive vibes and also had a lot of images and NFTs, like a little museum. 12 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:23,280 So welcome old one and glad to have you here. 13 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:32,400 Hey, I'm really happy to have this chance to talk to everyone, including the Sand Fam 14 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,440 and maybe also the Mocha Fam. 15 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:47,760 It has been a while since my last space or something and I think the Sandbox is pretty 16 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:53,920 special to us because we started our career in the Web3 world with the Sandbox. 17 00:01:53,920 --> 00:02:00,120 So yeah, I have a special, I think I do have a special connection with all the Sand Fans 18 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,600 and yeah, I love to talk to everyone here today. 19 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,080 Great. 20 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,080 Thank you old one. 21 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,080 I appreciate that. 22 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,720 Appreciate your time and look forward to the discussion. 23 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,300 So everyone slide two scope of the talk. 24 00:02:15,300 --> 00:02:16,300 What is today about? 25 00:02:16,300 --> 00:02:21,840 It's about a meet and greet with old one and a learning opportunity to learn from old one 26 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:29,880 and what his background is, his association is with with Sandbox, as you just heard, 27 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:37,760 it is really expanded and started like delving deep into Web3 through the Sandbox. 28 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:45,680 So there's a special connection there and also how that has evolved into Mocha CN and 29 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,720 what that means for the Sandbox style. 30 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,680 So meet and greet and a learning opportunity. 31 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:53,980 Introductions. 32 00:02:53,980 --> 00:03:01,960 So my name is Lancer, I'm the podcast host for Sandow and I am a avatar owner. 33 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:08,400 I'm a landowner and I've published two games as president of MetaWorlds, the floor droppers 34 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,800 and most recently Lava Defense. 35 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,960 I have a background in business and contract negotiations. 36 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:20,280 I've been in San Fam for about two, three years now since about midway through season 37 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:29,640 one and I've I loved it ever since, especially the connection between builders, artists and 38 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:32,720 players and then now the DAO. 39 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:39,440 I am very heavily interested in the DAO and I've authored three SIPs, two of which are 40 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,440 we're working on the tail end with the project management team to get them out to public 41 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:52,240 commentary before they go to vote and I have four more planned in here in the near future. 42 00:03:52,240 --> 00:04:01,440 Most of them are zero dollar SIPs, stuff like changing resolutions, allowing in-game filters 43 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:06,600 for inventory, stuff that as players we've been wanting to see for a while. 44 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,560 And yeah, so that's me. 45 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,520 And Old One, if you wouldn't mind, please introduce yourself, where are you from and 46 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,680 how did you came to be in the sandbox? 47 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,240 Okay, so you can just call me Old One. 48 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:32,280 I'm based in China and we set up Little Land in 2021 and we started our business, a web 49 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:36,720 three business in sandbox. 50 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:43,240 And my partner is in New York, so New Land is part based in New York and part based in 51 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,320 China. 52 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:51,800 And I was working in different industry before I entered the web three world, basically gaming 53 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,160 industry, branding and product design saying. 54 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,720 And at that moment I found the sandbox. 55 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:07,800 I think it's really cool and it's really easy for everyone to start a journey like that's 56 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,020 to build games. 57 00:05:09,020 --> 00:05:10,020 So I joined. 58 00:05:10,020 --> 00:05:17,240 Yeah, I think that's it. 59 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,920 And so you said that it's partly based in New York, that's where your partner is and 60 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,240 then partly based in China where you are. 61 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,320 I'm in Shenzhen, it's just beside Hong Kong. 62 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:36,960 Yeah, and what was that you said in the very beginning about web three, how sandbox was 63 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,320 your first foray into web three? 64 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,040 Yes, yes. 65 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:49,760 I think at the moment I learned about the blockchain long ago. 66 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,600 I also buy some crypto tokens. 67 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:59,360 But at that moment, I think it's the first wave of the game five thing. 68 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,000 First there is Axie Infinity. 69 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,340 I played it a little bit, but the gameplay is kind of not that fun. 70 00:06:06,340 --> 00:06:12,520 And then I found sandbox and then we started it. 71 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:19,240 It's just so interesting because you like building Voxel models are so easy and building 72 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,560 games with sandbox is kind of easy too. 73 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:28,160 So we just, and I think at that moment we got the COVID, the traditional industry is 74 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,160 not that good. 75 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,560 So we just moved to the web three. 76 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Gotcha. 77 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,560 And starting with the sandbox. 78 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Yes. 79 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:36,560 Okay, great. 80 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:42,240 Well, let's, I kind of just started the questions already. 81 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:49,400 So let's roll right into, let's get the disclaimer and then a couple preamble items. 82 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:55,360 So for the disclaimer, Old Juan and I, we do not represent the sandbox game or the sandbox 83 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,360 foundation. 84 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,840 We speak for ourselves as SanFam community members and we are not your financial or legal 85 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:06,520 advisors and nothing either of us say is to be taken as financial or legal advice. 86 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Right, Old Juan? 87 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:08,760 You're not, you're not a lawyer. 88 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,400 You're not looking to give financial legal advice. 89 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,160 I didn't want to speak for you. 90 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,160 I didn't, I didn't ask you beforehand. 91 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:22,840 Is that right, Old Juan? 92 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,400 Yep. 93 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,480 Okay. 94 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:32,180 So next up, the DAL scoreboard, something I just finished putting together last night. 95 00:07:32,180 --> 00:07:34,400 So SIPs and drafts. 96 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:40,020 So this is counting our DAL right now, all the SIPs going on. 97 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:42,720 So there is one SIP and draft. 98 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,680 That's the Creator First by Kirill. 99 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,720 That was Sandow podcast number three, I believe. 100 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,560 Zero SIPs pending activation. 101 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,000 The SIP seven and eight just went out of activation and into open voting. 102 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,520 So they'll be on for a 14 day period. 103 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,880 Six SIPs have already closed, of which all six were approved. 104 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:08,080 The last one that was approved was Magic Palette, Pepe and Sand Rush, which by the way, Old 105 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,080 Juan, I think you all had a part to play in that, which I want to get into a little bit 106 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,080 later. 107 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:20,360 And then last but not least, of the five that I intend to submit here soon from MetaWorlds, 108 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,880 we've already submitted three of them. 109 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,980 So there's that. 110 00:08:24,980 --> 00:08:28,220 And also, I just finished putting this one together, the DAL checkbook. 111 00:08:28,220 --> 00:08:40,040 So out of a 15.5 million sand budget, so far, we have spent 14, excuse me, 1.1 million. 112 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:47,780 So we have about 14.3 million sand left from our current budget. 113 00:08:47,780 --> 00:08:51,600 So something I like to do to keep track of the numbers. 114 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,400 And let's jump into the discussion. 115 00:08:54,400 --> 00:09:02,400 So Old Juan, what is MochaCN? 116 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:14,240 MochaCN is actually a naturally formed community. 117 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,920 I think that's the simple answer. 118 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,920 All right. 119 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,840 I think we lost you there for the last five seconds. 120 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,440 MochaCN was naturally formed from where? 121 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,920 Okay, sorry. 122 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,080 Let me say it again. 123 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,800 MochaCN is a naturally formed community, like the Chinese community of mochavers. 124 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:32,800 Okay. 125 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,800 So it's a... 126 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:34,800 Yeah, and it is... 127 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:35,800 Go ahead. 128 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:49,360 It is formed, yeah, it is formed by my big brother called MochaFan. 129 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,960 You say it was formed by your big brother? 130 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:53,960 Not really. 131 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,960 That big brother is a... 132 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,960 Sorry for my English. 133 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:02,040 It's just a big brother, big brother. 134 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,040 Oh, yeah, yeah. 135 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,040 Okay, gotcha. 136 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Okay. 137 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,400 And it was formed by who? 138 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,040 Called Fan, MochaFan. 139 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,440 And you can find... 140 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,760 He's just holding the MochaCN Twitter. 141 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,360 It's the family name. 142 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,360 Oh, MochaFan. 143 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,360 Okay, got it. 144 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 145 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,920 So I saw there on the Twitter, so FanMush? 146 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:31,920 Yeah. 147 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:32,920 Got it. 148 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:33,920 Hazel. 149 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,920 Okay. 150 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 151 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:36,920 Cool. 152 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:46,480 Hazel is another friend of us, based in Hong Kong, who is also being very active in the 153 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:52,920 ape community. 154 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:59,600 And how did... when you say it was naturally formed, what happened to where it formed so 155 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,600 naturally? 156 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:09,040 I think at the moment when the Mocha was in that, he was published, was launched, Fan 157 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:15,560 just creates a WeChat group, you know, WeChat every chance you use WeChat. 158 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:21,400 Yeah, he just created a WeChat group and people just keep joining. 159 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:29,120 And yeah, we also invite a couple of friends who used to invest in the web industry and 160 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,760 they just come and we just keep growing, keep growing. 161 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:38,440 And we also build connection with the Mochaverse team and that's it. 162 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,440 Okay. 163 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,440 And how many members... 164 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Yeah, let me say it started with a WeChat group. 165 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,120 Got it. 166 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,120 WeChat group. 167 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Okay. 168 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,120 And how many members do you have now? 169 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:57,280 Actually, it's hard to calculate because, you know, WeChat got a limitation of the number 170 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,360 of group participants. 171 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,420 Like it only allowed 500 people. 172 00:12:03,420 --> 00:12:09,320 So at the moment we have 500 people as NFT holders in the WeChat group. 173 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:16,920 But we also have other WeChat groups, like for example, other projects from Animoca, 174 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,240 which also in the same ecosystem. 175 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,600 And we also have Mocha IP group. 176 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:22,600 Okay. 177 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,320 So that's, yeah, some two or three thousand something, I don't know. 178 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,240 Okay, gotcha. 179 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:36,120 So I'm sorry, did I just hear you say you have 3000 members? 180 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,200 I don't know, just estimated. 181 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,520 Okay, gotcha. 182 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:45,280 So at the very least you have at least 500 members, is what I heard. 183 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,600 Yeah, that's, I think you can call that, it's the core members or NFT holders. 184 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:50,600 Core members, okay. 185 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,600 Got it. 186 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:52,600 Yeah, yeah. 187 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,600 Okay. 188 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,160 And, okay, so you formed it via the WeChat group. 189 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:02,600 So that's how most of you all organize and communicate is through the WeChat group? 190 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,000 Yes, yes. 191 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,480 Okay. 192 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:13,680 And I think I saw just was it today on the Mocha scene Twitter, y'all did a, like an 193 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:19,960 event on Discord, you had like a, like a staged event? 194 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,040 I don't really know about that. 195 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,000 No, I saw a picture of it on Twitter. 196 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:31,400 I think it was Mocha CN that posted it. 197 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,520 No, where was it? 198 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,280 Oh, I was just looking at it earlier today. 199 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:44,560 It had a picture of someone on stage, like Tyler Durden was there and some other things. 200 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:47,720 That's the official AMA in Discord. 201 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,120 Oh, was it? 202 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,120 Okay. 203 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:56,280 OG is saying it was the Mocha CN and Mocha JP had an event this morning. 204 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,280 I don't think so. 205 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,280 Okay. 206 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,200 I saw the picture. 207 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:07,920 So I knew it, some sort of event was had on Discord and it was, it like tagged Mocha CN 208 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,560 or something like that. 209 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:17,200 I think everyone related to Mocha are busy these two, three days with the TGE, so no 210 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:23,560 one got time to organize any event, but there are a lot of AMA going on. 211 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Gotcha. 212 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,560 Gotcha. 213 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,560 Okay. 214 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:27,560 Yeah. 215 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Okay. 216 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,360 So is WeChat the only place you all communicate to each other? 217 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Let's see, WeChat is the most convenient place we talk with each other, but everything also, 218 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:45,240 the communication also happens in Discord, like the Mochaverse Discord and also on Twitter. 219 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,240 Yeah. 220 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:56,400 And the funny thing is I actually got connected with many of these people started with the 221 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:05,200 sandbox because at that time we got another group called the sandbox land owner group. 222 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:10,600 And I know Mocha's friend there and I know also a lot of good friends there. 223 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,600 There are like a lot of really good investors there. 224 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,600 Gotcha. 225 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:17,600 Okay. 226 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:24,200 And you're talking about like on Discord, the land owner chat? 227 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,360 No, land owner WeChat group. 228 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,480 Oh, oh, there's a land owner WeChat group. 229 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,480 Okay. 230 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Got it. 231 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,480 Yeah. 232 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,480 Yeah. 233 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:45,560 MochaCN WeChat and there's a sandbox land owner WeChat group, Mochaverse Discord and 234 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:46,560 Twitter. 235 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:47,560 Yes. 236 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,560 Got it. 237 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:49,560 Okay. 238 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:50,560 Okay. 239 00:15:50,560 --> 00:16:00,000 And so you formed this with fans mush, which was via WeChat. 240 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:08,960 And so, okay, so it sounds like it's really just a network of Chinese members who are 241 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:14,760 engaged in the Mochaverse in some way. 242 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:22,320 And is there any like particular focus that you all have, emphasis or thing that you all 243 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,120 pay most attention to in the Mochaverse? 244 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:39,180 Oh, the simple answer is a lot of participants treat this as an investment. 245 00:16:39,180 --> 00:16:40,180 So they want to make money. 246 00:16:40,180 --> 00:16:41,180 Okay. 247 00:16:41,180 --> 00:16:47,920 I think that's a simple choose here for every blockchain project. 248 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:54,240 But from, but I think there are also many builders join like, for example, Hesu, we 249 00:16:54,240 --> 00:17:01,440 just found his Twitter handle there under Mocha fans Twitter. 250 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,600 Hesu is also another co-founder of MochaCN. 251 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:14,220 She's based in Hong Kong and she participated in the APE ecosystem for a long time. 252 00:17:14,220 --> 00:17:24,120 So she's also helping building the ecosystem to also let more people know about Mochaverse. 253 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:25,120 Gotcha. 254 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:26,120 Yeah. 255 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:27,120 Yeah. 256 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:30,600 He's also part of the APE DAO, I think. 257 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,600 Yeah. 258 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,600 Yeah. 259 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Ji is a saint in chat. 260 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,200 Hazel is also in the 8-point DAO governance. 261 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,200 That's cool. 262 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,200 Yeah. 263 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,200 Yes. 264 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,200 Yes. 265 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,200 The DAO special council right on. 266 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,200 Good for you, Hazel. 267 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,200 Congratulations. 268 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,200 Cool. 269 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,360 So a lot of participants treat it as an investment. 270 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:49,360 Okay. 271 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:56,560 So then you're really in Mochaverse itself has business been good? 272 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:01,120 Are you happy so far what you're seeing? 273 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:02,120 I think yes. 274 00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:03,120 Let's see. 275 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:04,120 Yes. 276 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:09,760 There is noises, especially in this kind of market situation, up down, up down. 277 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:14,840 And especially with this TGE thing, it was very noisy yesterday. 278 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,180 Somebody fought, somebody just believes. 279 00:18:19,180 --> 00:18:20,600 So it's funny. 280 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,600 It's interesting. 281 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,600 Yeah. 282 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:29,040 And so you all have been described, by the way, shout out to Ji. 283 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:34,600 I'm not sure if you're familiar with Ji, but Ji introduced me a lot to the DAO and he's 284 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,600 in chat now. 285 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:36,840 Flowers, Ji. 286 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:43,160 So he helped expose me to what a DAO is, helped me learn all sorts of stuff. 287 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:49,200 And it was his idea, actually, the other just the other week, when Pepe was trying to find 288 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,000 a quorum, he only had like 15 million votes. 289 00:18:53,000 --> 00:19:02,440 And he and out of the 14 day period, he needed 15 million votes and only two or three days. 290 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:09,320 So during one of the Mochaverse hauls, I think it was last Monday, this past Monday, Ji recommended 291 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:15,680 that we reach out to MochaCN and ask if there were anyone who would would vote for Pepe's 292 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,120 quorum. 293 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:20,280 And that's how I reached out to you, Old Juan. 294 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,280 Okay. 295 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:26,440 Yeah, so when I looked you up, and I saw that you were one of the founders and that you 296 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,400 were Lulu land, come to find out. 297 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,080 That's when I decided to send you a tweet and ask if you would help. 298 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,080 Interesting. 299 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,080 Thank you, Ji. 300 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,080 Thank you for connecting us. 301 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,720 Yeah, and I appreciate that big time. 302 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,400 And Ji was just for a plug for Mochaverse Hall. 303 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,760 If you all don't know, Mochaverse Hall is a place also called United Grand Halls, a 304 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:56,200 place where it's a gathering place for all the Mochaverse family members. 305 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:02,200 And I had heard Ji spoke some time ago, you used to be involved in Mochaverse Hall or 306 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,480 like a co-host of some kind. 307 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,280 Uh huh, yes. 308 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Yeah, and so can you help me understand what happened in terms of are you in a different 309 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,160 place now to where your MochaCN is taking most of your time? 310 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:28,920 Would you ever see any sort of integration or sharing of audiences and platforms? 311 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,400 What's your thoughts on that? 312 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,280 Sorry, I don't really understand this question. 313 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:41,560 So you used to be co-host with Mochaverse Hall some time ago. 314 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,560 Uh huh. 315 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,520 Okay, sorry. 316 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,240 I think I have to say sorry, I'm just too lazy. 317 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,240 Okay. 318 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,560 Yeah, I'm just too lazy. 319 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,640 Actually I'm not a guy who loves to talk in public. 320 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,800 I prefer just building quietly. 321 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,360 And yeah, sometimes I also ignore messages on Twitter. 322 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:08,040 So sorry Ji, I think sometimes I also ignore your messages. 323 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,760 Yeah, I think there's no special reason. 324 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:19,480 Yeah, and Ji was speaking to this how he would very much like to find a synergy because 325 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,720 we're all looking to build the Mochaverse together. 326 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:29,860 And I really felt very deeply about that because as I learn more about the Mochaverse and I'm 327 00:21:29,860 --> 00:21:36,120 now a Mocha holder, so I'm part of the Mocha family now, and I'm starting to learn how 328 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:40,760 it participates in the sandbox and that so many people in Mochaverse are part of the 329 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,840 sandbox. 330 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:48,160 I agree that there's a lot of synergy we can do to help each other and to be good community 331 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,640 members to each other. 332 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:57,240 So I know that he would appreciate the opportunity to work together with you in some way. 333 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,440 I know he's expressed that before. 334 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,480 Yes, yes, sure. 335 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,480 Cool. 336 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,600 Yeah, me too. 337 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:13,680 And so let's get down to some things that I really wanted to ask you about, is the voting. 338 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:20,800 So with so many members, not just in Mochaverse, but also so many people connected to the sandbox, 339 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:29,480 can you give me an idea for what does MochaCN vote on and what do you participate in? 340 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,580 I think the voting principle for MochaCN is pretty simple. 341 00:22:34,580 --> 00:22:43,040 We just focus on the Mochaverse ecosystem because at the moment, the most voting happens 342 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,600 in the APE dial. 343 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,640 But actually, the APE dial is not really a Mocha dial. 344 00:22:48,640 --> 00:23:01,320 It is the VAPS-3 ecosystem, but we judge whether we vote yes or no for the voting based on 345 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:09,360 if these AIP are related to Mochaverse or benefit to Mochaverse or benefit something 346 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:14,000 which is kind of good to the whole ecosystem. 347 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,960 I think that's the principle we vote. 348 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,960 Okay. 349 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:23,780 And when you're assessing whether or not something is good for the Mochaverse ecosystem, is there 350 00:23:23,780 --> 00:23:29,680 anything that stands out to you as this is definitely something that helps the ecosystem? 351 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:36,440 Let's see. 352 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,760 One of the most key things here is the traffic. 353 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,800 We need more people to learn about Mochaverse. 354 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:52,200 We need more people to not really buy the NFT, but you can start with MochaID or something. 355 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,760 Just involve more people because Mochaverse is still kind of actually young. 356 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:06,160 The community is not as strong as APE or as some other very old NFT projects. 357 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,160 Yeah. 358 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,920 Okay. 359 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,880 And so you're focused more on education things and things that will drive more traffic to 360 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,880 the Mochaverse, right? 361 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,240 Yeah. 362 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,640 I think at the moment, that's it. 363 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,880 Because the difference between Mochaverse and APE is Mochaverse got a core team. 364 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,120 APE is more decentralized. 365 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,880 So the core team will do their part, right? 366 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:34,200 To build everything, to build products, to build... 367 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,520 Just to follow the roadmap. 368 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:45,200 But from the community side, from the downside, I think it's more about education and bringing 369 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,200 more people in. 370 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,200 Gotcha. 371 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,200 Okay. 372 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,640 So it's about bringing more people in. 373 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:57,200 And where Mochaverse has that core team that can really build on that and then sounds like 374 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:05,640 in a different or stronger way than APE CoinDAO? 375 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,320 I won't say a more stronger way, but it's a different path. 376 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,320 A different path, okay. 377 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:17,280 Yeah, the Deep CoinDAO start at a very good timing. 378 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,840 I think at that time, the market situation is great. 379 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,920 Everything keeps growing and it can start in a decentralized way. 380 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,960 But I think nowadays, everything is different. 381 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,520 So I think the Mochaverse is doing good. 382 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,520 Okay. 383 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,520 Yeah. 384 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,600 And full disclosure, I am also an APE. 385 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,960 So I don't really participate much. 386 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080 I'm very much in the sandbox. 387 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,280 I'm a builder, landowner. 388 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,280 Me too. 389 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,280 Right. 390 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,600 And yes, we'll get to that here pretty soon. 391 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,040 But I love the sandbox. 392 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,560 I love the vision of it. 393 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,640 I love what the value is. 394 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,040 So I'm very interested in building up the DAO. 395 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:10,200 Whereas APE is, I understand it, but I think my heart is in helping the sandbox DAO. 396 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:16,880 So what's your connection to, and we'll walk ourselves back to the sandbox DAO, but let's 397 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,160 start with Lululand. 398 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,800 What's your connection to the sandbox? 399 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,560 Is it just Lululand or are there other things as well? 400 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:35,600 See, Lululand is the main connection we have with the sandbox. 401 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:42,640 But if you say other things, I think we have very good relationship with the Chinese landowners 402 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,960 because you know that I mentioned the Chinese landowner WeChat group. 403 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,280 We do have a strong connection there. 404 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,040 Okay, got it. 405 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:07,280 And so now that the DAO has been formed, we're looking at SIPs, the sandbox improvement proposals, 406 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,520 just for sandbox. 407 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:17,480 What's your stance on voting for the sandbox DAO versus voting for Mochaverse? 408 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,480 Do you do both? 409 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,840 Do you really just focus on the Mochaverse? 410 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,840 Where do you fall on that? 411 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,040 I think I follow both. 412 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,200 Yeah, Mochaverse is the Mocha-seam part. 413 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:37,600 And for sandbox, I think the Mocha voting power hasn't been involved yet. 414 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:44,120 So for the sandbox DAO, we just present as Lululand. 415 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:50,160 And we also kind of present some of the landowners. 416 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,160 Landowner, okay. 417 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,160 Okay, gotcha. 418 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,160 Yeah. 419 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,520 And so this is what I think happened, right? 420 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:07,320 So after I contacted you, I think you voted with your land and also some others did. 421 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,640 And that's what eventually tipped the scales because a few days after that, Pepe got his 422 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,640 quorum. 423 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,280 So did you end up voting? 424 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,080 If you don't mind saying? 425 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,080 Yes. 426 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,080 Great. 427 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:27,400 Because when I was looking at the snapshot, which had the results of the vote, I couldn't 428 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:34,120 tell where because they're mostly, you know, wallet numbers instead of like a dot ETH where 429 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:36,360 I could figure that part out. 430 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:39,520 But yeah, well, thank you so much for doing that. 431 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:45,360 I have no doubt that that what was so 4500, you have a 12 by 12. 432 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,200 So it's 144. 433 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:53,520 So that's at least 600,000 voting power, not including some of the other lands that 434 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,200 you may have as well. 435 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,080 So I really appreciate that. 436 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Thank you for helping Pepe achieve that. 437 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,320 Thank you. 438 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:10,240 Yeah, I mean, thanks for all of effort because I think the what's the name of that project 439 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,240 from Sanras? 440 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,240 Magic palette? 441 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,240 Yeah, it was. 442 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,240 It is good. 443 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,240 It is good. 444 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,280 It is actually what the landowner needs. 445 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,160 They need more easy tours to start their way in the sandbox. 446 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,960 Yeah, yeah, great. 447 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:26,960 Okay. 448 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,720 And when you were when you were reviewing magic palette, was there anything that stood 449 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,400 out to you as this is obviously something good? 450 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,440 What was it that really convinced you to vote? 451 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:50,200 I think I just like in the first glance because we also have some similar concepts. 452 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:59,520 Times ago, like doing some modular construction assets for people to use to construction buildings 453 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,840 in a very short time. 454 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,160 So I think we're just in the same path. 455 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,880 Definitely have to vote for him. 456 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,880 Gotcha. 457 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,160 And what so selfishly I will have sips in the future. 458 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,560 I know there are other steps that are already starting to to pop up like the two for the 459 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,080 city jam. 460 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,960 And then also the one by Remy, who did the landowner staking step. 461 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:34,760 So what is your criteria for the future and how you want to vote for future steps? 462 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:42,240 Let's see. 463 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:50,880 I think at the moment when we talk about about sandbox, actually, there are two main problems 464 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,400 we need to solve. 465 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,840 The first thing is on the technical side, like how to improve the game maker to make 466 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,720 it better, make it easier for people to join. 467 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:08,920 That is one thing and the second thing is, you know, that the price of the land has dumped 468 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,920 a lot. 469 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,200 So we need new traffic. 470 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,040 So basically, that's the true things we should focus on. 471 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,080 And for the Dow, I think it should, it shares kind of the same goal. 472 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:27,600 So if any SIP is focusing on this two part, we definitely love to look into it to see 473 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,120 if it works for supporting. 474 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:38,440 Okay, so you said SIPs that make it easier for players to join the sandbox and SIPs that 475 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,360 help what lower the price of the land or raise the price of land? 476 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,360 Raise the price. 477 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,880 I'll say also bringing more people. 478 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,520 It's not really the price. 479 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,800 Yeah, it's about if new people come in and the price goes up. 480 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,440 Bringing in new people. 481 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,000 Okay, got it. 482 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,800 And so Magic Palette, I'm sure is going to help bring in new people. 483 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,200 But its main focus was, it's going to help builders build easier, you know, landowners 484 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:14,360 like yourself and to build more land on their land faster. 485 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,360 What about that? 486 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,300 Let me rephrase my question. 487 00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:25,000 So you said what convinced you to vote for Magic Palette was the increase in builder 488 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,000 capability. 489 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:33,320 And that what you want to vote on in the future is to make it easier for players to join and 490 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,960 bringing in new people. 491 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:41,920 So is your voting just things that help the sandbox community thrive? 492 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:48,120 Or is there the different connection there that I haven't voiced? 493 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,320 I don't really understand the last one. 494 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:58,000 I guess what I'm asking for is there will be other sips that won't just be bringing 495 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,000 in new players. 496 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,960 And there might be sips that are more builder oriented or stakeholder oriented. 497 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:09,680 Will you see those as helping the sandbox community? 498 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,360 I think yes. 499 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,360 Okay. 500 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:19,440 Yeah, because it's not only about builders and players. 501 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,400 The blockchain market is still really like finance and money related. 502 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,680 So we need all kinds of people to join. 503 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,680 Got it. 504 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,680 Okay. 505 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,680 We need all types of people. 506 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,680 Yeah. 507 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,440 And then we can push this heavy track forward. 508 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,440 Got it. 509 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,440 Okay. 510 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,440 Yeah. 511 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,440 Okay. 512 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,640 They. 513 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,940 So it sounds like whatever makes it easier for players to join, bringing in new people 514 00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:55,120 and helps the various parts of sandbox like builders, the artists, all the different people 515 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,120 like that. 516 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,120 Okay. 517 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,600 Cool. 518 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,400 Because I know some of my sips. 519 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,840 My sips are very much like the first one was Windows resolution. 520 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:15,080 Like if you have a monitor that is over 1080, it won't let you select a resolution. 521 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,120 And if you have a game maker, you can't like resize it. 522 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,720 So whenever you're trying to have game maker and different windows open, it's very difficult 523 00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:25,560 to do all that at once. 524 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,440 So my sips was just simply, can you please make it to where I can resize it? 525 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,440 You know what I mean? 526 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,680 So it's very simple. 527 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,200 Very simple sips will require zero dollars from the down. 528 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,480 Can we just give the tech team a call to solve this? 529 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,140 Yes, exactly. 530 00:34:44,140 --> 00:34:48,400 The second one thing was the biggest one for me was if you've got a lot of stuff in your 531 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,520 inventory in game, it's very difficult to navigate. 532 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,720 And sometimes the pictures don't pop up. 533 00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:55,700 So you don't even know what you're clicking on. 534 00:34:55,700 --> 00:34:57,080 So I want a filter. 535 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:03,320 I want an equipment filter so I can only show like power or speed or whatever it is I need 536 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,320 to do in that game. 537 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:13,160 So to me, that wouldn't exactly fall under old one, bringing in new people, but it would 538 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,800 make the player experience better. 539 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,960 Are those things something you would consider voting for? 540 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,440 Yeah, I guess I'd ask that. 541 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,440 Definitely. 542 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,560 Yes, this is a yeah, I think that's what you mentioned. 543 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,400 This kind of thing is a part of job the core team should solve. 544 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:40,560 It's not even necessary for the doubt to be to push to vote. 545 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,800 Because I think it's just the product side. 546 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,640 It should be solved by the tech team internally. 547 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,800 Yeah, that's true. 548 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,560 And I guess because I've been playing sandbox like LuluLimit, when I would play LuluLimit 549 00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:02,280 and I'm running around in your map and just all these different things that I've learned 550 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,060 just like everybody else has playing, they're just little things that I really want in there. 551 00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:14,680 So because I haven't seen them yet, that's when I put in a sip to make it happen. 552 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:24,120 So if you sit together for one hour, we'll have a lot of like this kind of SIP. 553 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,320 For me, it's just quality of life, wanting to make the player experience better so that 554 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,600 when we do bring people in, they want to stay because it's a fun game to play. 555 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:39,720 And there's a lot of easy things for them to do. 556 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:46,960 So if someone wants to, you're a major landowner, and you know you have a good relationship 557 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:54,040 with the other Chinese landowners, how can someone best ask for your consideration when 558 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,040 voting? 559 00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:03,280 I think first is the communication channel. 560 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,600 I'm sorry, what was that? 561 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,960 In which channel? 562 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,320 The communication channel. 563 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:18,560 I mean, first, you have to find us on WeChat or maybe if you're drawing WeChat, that will 564 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:27,480 be better because you can get directly to the MochaCN people. 565 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:34,560 Because we are not really voting, besides how the voting happens, we are voting for 566 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,560 the whole community. 567 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:41,600 We are voting for the MochaCN community. 568 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:48,120 If you want to get support from MochaCN, first try to get involved somewhere. 569 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:55,600 Like we just mentioned, WeChat, Twitter, try to interact with MochaCN more with this group 570 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,760 of people. 571 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:08,080 And then if the voting itself is beneficial to the community, I mean for sandbox style 572 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,720 and for MochaCN style, I think I'm showing the same principle. 573 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:17,120 If it's beneficial to the ecosystem, then we will think about it. 574 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,400 Okay, great. 575 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:24,720 And how does someone access the WeChat? 576 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:30,040 I've never used WeChat, so I'm not sure either. 577 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:35,760 You can download the WeChat and ask me for inviting codes. 578 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:42,560 And for someone who hasn't yet spoken with you yet, is there a way that they can do it 579 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,920 or do they need to tweet you? 580 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,480 How do they get access? 581 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,560 I think try to connect us on Twitter first. 582 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,760 Okay, connect on Twitter. 583 00:38:53,760 --> 00:39:01,160 And ask for a WeChat invite code, is it called, I suppose? 584 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,880 And so they can connect with you on Twitter. 585 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:09,680 And if they don't use WeChat, then Twitter, is that the only place or is there somewhere 586 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:15,920 on Discord they can reach you as well? 587 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,760 Okay so Twitter, Discord, and did I hear you say something else? 588 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:26,840 I think that's it. 589 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:32,040 And so if they access the WeChat, then they'll have the most, they'll have the direct connection 590 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:39,800 to you and the community to where they can propose the SIP for the community's consideration? 591 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,160 Yes. 592 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,160 Okay, great. 593 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,960 And Zitha in chat says, WeChat has a translation feature. 594 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,680 It's good enough to communicate, so feel free to join. 595 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:53,680 Okay, great. 596 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:54,680 Thank you, Zitha. 597 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 598 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,160 She's playing good with WeChat. 599 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,160 Cool. 600 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,000 Well, thank you so much for revealing that. 601 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,280 I think a lot of people, especially in the SanFam, we're so new to the DAO. 602 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,000 So many people are learning as we go. 603 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:18,760 And as I hear, you know, and BOTB bulls on the block or Mochaverse Hall with G, I keep 604 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:24,440 hearing some of the same players talk about how important delegations are and how important 605 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:34,340 voting blocks are and how to maximize your chance for success when promoting a, or when 606 00:40:34,340 --> 00:40:37,040 offering a proposal to the community. 607 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,840 And one of the biggest things that we are learning, I am learning in the sandbox DAO, 608 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:48,400 is just how important a quorum is and what that means that you need to contact people 609 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:55,080 like yourself, excuse me, and others to reach that quorum just so you have a fighting chance 610 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,520 to get a proposal. 611 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:05,120 Do you have a lot of experience with DAOs? 612 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,280 I think not really. 613 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:19,600 I learned about DAOs for a while, but I only participate, starts from the APE DAO, like 614 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:26,560 the moment when the Mochaverse joined the APE DAO, then we started to participate in 615 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,920 the DAO system. 616 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,680 So everything I know is actually from the APE DAO. 617 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,680 Okay. 618 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,680 Okay. 619 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,680 So from the APE DAO. 620 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,680 Yeah. 621 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:42,360 And then we come to Sandbox DAO and maybe later Mocha DAO. 622 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:48,520 And is the sandbox Chinese landowner network, the one that people would gain access to if 623 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:57,880 they're sandbox, is that the same or different from the WeChat for the Mocha CN network? 624 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,880 It's different. 625 00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,880 It's different. 626 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:05,960 And there are a lot of people who participate in both sides, but it's still a different 627 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:06,960 group of people. 628 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,960 Okay. 629 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,960 Got it. 630 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:17,360 So did you notice a difference in how the Mocha CN members vote versus the Chinese landowners 631 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,360 vote? 632 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,840 I know we're so new that maybe we haven't seen enough yet, but what are your thoughts? 633 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,840 Sorry. 634 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:24,840 Sorry. 635 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,840 There's some noise. 636 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,840 It's okay. 637 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:36,120 My question was, do you see a difference in the way the Mocha CN members vote and things 638 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:41,720 they care about versus the Chinese landowners from sandbox? 639 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:43,200 Sorry. 640 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,640 Sorry. 641 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:50,320 Something's happening on my side. 642 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,320 Okay. 643 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,320 Yeah, that's okay. 644 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,320 We can... 645 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,320 No, no, no. 646 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,040 Can you wait me for like five seconds and then come back? 647 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,040 That's no problem. 648 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,200 So take a short break and come on back. 649 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,200 Yeah. 650 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,000 So I'll just look at the chat while we're waiting. 651 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,000 Go West. 652 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,000 Nice. 653 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,000 Hey, Go West. 654 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,120 How are you? 655 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:17,320 And Zita, I really appreciate your answers and your input in the chat. 656 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,240 It's helped me understand some things as well as I talked to old one. 657 00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:23,560 NG, welcome, my friend. 658 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,280 You're always welcome. 659 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,600 Yeah. 660 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,600 Streamlabs. 661 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,600 I haven't figured it out. 662 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,240 I only just got Streamlabs maybe a month ago. 663 00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:36,080 I'm still learning it and I have a very overzealous moderator right now. 664 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,600 Hey, hello, I'm back. 665 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,600 Yeah. 666 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,640 Hey, no problem. 667 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,440 I was just talking to Zita and everyone in chat. 668 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,440 So sorry. 669 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,880 I missed the last question. 670 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:50,880 It's okay. 671 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,880 What was it? 672 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:59,840 The last one was, do you see a difference in the way the Mocha CN community votes or 673 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,480 talks different than the sandbox Chinese landowners? 674 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,480 Okay. 675 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:14,320 For this one, I think the Mocha CN group is more experienced in the web three world and 676 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,800 the sandbox more. 677 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:22,800 The sandbox landowner group, I think at that time, there's people joining. 678 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:29,580 A lot of people who participate in the sandbox are fresh to the blockchain thing. 679 00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:36,760 So that's the difference. 680 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:42,560 The Mocha CN group, they are more educated with the web three market and the sandbox 681 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:48,560 landowner group, it's the sandbox landowner group. 682 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,560 A part of them are really good investors. 683 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,160 A lot of them are also are freshmen. 684 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,520 What was that last word? 685 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,560 They're fresh something? 686 00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,560 Fresh. 687 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,280 I'm like more fresh to the web three world. 688 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,280 Oh, okay. 689 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,280 Gotcha. 690 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,280 They're newer to the web three world. 691 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,280 Got it. 692 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,280 Yeah. 693 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,280 Okay, great. 694 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,560 Thank you for explaining that. 695 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,560 Okay. 696 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:18,200 So that's, that'll conclude the first page of questions. 697 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,760 And the second page, I think we did talk about this quite a bit. 698 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,040 The question was how involved is Mocha CN with the sandbox DAO? 699 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,240 And oh, you know, we didn't ask that part yet. 700 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:38,200 So if the Mocha CN members are different from the Chinese sandbox landowners, but the Mocha 701 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:43,760 verse has a stake in the sandbox, is there any crossover there? 702 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,640 Yes, there are. 703 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:55,120 There are a lot of crossovers, many because even sandbox is part of the Mocha ecosystem. 704 00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:03,880 And we know Mocha start with, I think, X infinity and sandbox and a lot of Mocha verse holders 705 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,640 are transferred from the sandbox people. 706 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:14,800 Because at that time, I think sandbox also got right list to mean the mocha verse. 707 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,800 Okay. 708 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:16,800 So yeah. 709 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,520 Okay, got it. 710 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,520 Okay. 711 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,880 And I did somewhat ask this, but I wanted to ask in a different way. 712 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,960 What is important to the Mocha CN community? 713 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:35,160 You had previously said that they wanted to focus on bringing in new players. 714 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:43,120 And is there anything else for the Mocha verse that they care about? 715 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,120 You mentioned investors. 716 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,520 What do you think? 717 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,640 What's your impression? 718 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,960 Let's see the most important thing is still the price, the price of the assets. 719 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,240 Price of the assets, okay. 720 00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:58,240 Yeah. 721 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:01,600 So to be honest, this is always the first priority. 722 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,600 Okay, got it. 723 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:12,560 And then if we talking about others, it will be, yeah, I think as I mentioned, the traffic 724 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:21,980 and part of the culture maybe like Flan and Hesil and I, we're really, we are always working 725 00:47:21,980 --> 00:47:26,680 to build on the culture side. 726 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,680 Okay got it. 727 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:37,800 And this kind of goes to a question that was asked in chat by G. Is there any, and I'm 728 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,200 going to butcher this word. 729 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,840 Is there any alpha that you can share with what you're building? 730 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:48,080 Maybe something related to culture? 731 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,360 He's asking about the Mocha verse in sandbox experience. 732 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,760 Yeah, I think it's coming soon to the sandbox. 733 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:03,680 There will be, because I think you already see the Mocha verse cross sandbox game jam 734 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,320 happened one, two months ago. 735 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:11,800 And I think some, if you already participate in the game jam, you may also heard something. 736 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,320 There will definitely be a Mocha verse sandbox event coming soon. 737 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:22,640 Oh, a Mocha verse sandbox event coming soon. 738 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,800 And it's going to be hosted on the sandbox or is it hosted like an in-person thing? 739 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,880 Sandbox, sandbox, sandbox. 740 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,320 Okay. 741 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:41,440 And are we talking like a jam of some kind or is it something special? 742 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:47,160 I think just like the game events happened on sandbox before. 743 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,160 Okay, okay. 744 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,160 Got it. 745 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,720 But a Mocha verse spin on it. 746 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:59,960 Yeah, but definitely we'll connect to the Mocha system like you can earn some RP and 747 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:03,000 more reward maybe. 748 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,000 Gotcha. 749 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,880 And what's your role? 750 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,000 What's your participation in the event? 751 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,920 We're helping Mocha verse to build the extrinses. 752 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:15,920 Okay, great. 753 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,920 Great. 754 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:17,920 That's awesome. 755 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,920 Yeah. 756 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:19,920 Yeah. 757 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,920 I hope you will like the extrinses. 758 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,120 Yeah. 759 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:29,280 I mean, if it's anything like what I've played before in Lulu land and there was one other 760 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:37,160 that I played with, that I saw on your website, sure it'll be, sure I'll have a grand time. 761 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,160 Cool. 762 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,160 Good question, Gene. 763 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,920 I'm just trying our best. 764 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,920 Yeah. 765 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,600 Like, can you say if it's going to include some of like the version 10 stuff that came 766 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:53,920 out the point 10 where I think it was NFT scan and the asset management or resource 767 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,920 management? 768 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,400 It's not. 769 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,720 I think there. 770 00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:01,520 I can tell everything. 771 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,680 I think yeah, it was built a while ago. 772 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,680 Not really. 773 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:06,680 Oh, okay. 774 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:07,680 Got it. 775 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,680 So maybe point nine or something else like that. 776 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,640 But some of the new functions are also involved. 777 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,640 Cool. 778 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,640 Cool. 779 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,640 Yeah. 780 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:16,640 I'm looking forward to it. 781 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,640 Yeah. 782 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,640 Cool. 783 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:19,640 I'm looking forward to it. 784 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:20,640 Let's play together. 785 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:25,640 Yeah, let's play together and have a good time again. 786 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,640 Yeah. 787 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,640 Yeah. 788 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,640 Well, excellent. 789 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:36,640 So something to look forward to there, Mochaverse and Sandbox event. 790 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,040 It sounds like it'll be special and you're helping them out. 791 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,040 All right. 792 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,460 So let's go back to MochaCN. 793 00:50:43,460 --> 00:50:50,480 So you had said that the price of Mocha and Mocha assets were of chief importance, but 794 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,280 then also you and Hazel were very interested in building culture. 795 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,400 Yeah, I think everyone like fun. 796 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:04,400 And we also have other friends who's also been active like Pop Hill. 797 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:10,440 I think she also knows Pop Hill is also being active, building Mochaverse. 798 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,440 What was that name you say? 799 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,440 Popular? 800 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,240 Popul, P-O-P-I-L is that name. 801 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:18,240 Popul, okay. 802 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:19,240 Got it. 803 00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:20,240 Yeah. 804 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:21,240 Yeah. 805 00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:24,280 He is also part of the APE governance. 806 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,720 Oh, the APE coin DAO government? 807 00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:28,720 Governance? 808 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:29,720 Yes. 809 00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:30,720 Yes. 810 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:31,720 Okay. 811 00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:32,720 So we're working closely. 812 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:33,720 Popul. 813 00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:34,720 Popul. 814 00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:35,720 I see now. 815 00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:36,720 Thank you, Zitha and NG. 816 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:40,560 Oh, Popul was also a UGH host. 817 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,560 Got it. 818 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:42,560 Yes. 819 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,560 Okay. 820 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:44,560 Great. 821 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,560 Cool. 822 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,840 I think that's pretty clear, Old Juan. 823 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:55,680 I think that makes it really clear what you all are, how you all communicate and what 824 00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:00,560 you all are, what's important to you and some things that are coming. 825 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:01,560 Yeah. 826 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:11,200 I hope this will help people get in touch with the MochaCN community and also the sandbox 827 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,200 landowner Chinese school. 828 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,840 Yeah, Zitha, I'm sorry about that. 829 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:22,280 I don't know how to turn my bot. 830 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,800 My bot is just crushing G and Zitha. 831 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,560 They're posting links to help. 832 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:30,560 You know what, Zitha? 833 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,560 I'll post the link. 834 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,560 Hold on. 835 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,360 Let me just get that one. 836 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,360 So X. 837 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,440 There we go. 838 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:40,440 That one. 839 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,440 Cool. 840 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,680 Let's show it here. 841 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,680 There we go. 842 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,680 Popul. 843 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:50,680 Okay. 844 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:51,680 Populart. 845 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,760 Building board T. I don't know what board T is, but sounds interesting. 846 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:57,760 Cool. 847 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,760 Very cool. 848 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,760 Shout out to Popul. 849 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,760 All right. 850 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,760 Yeah. 851 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:09,160 If you have any community questions, please put them in chat. 852 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,640 We're nearing the end of my questions. 853 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:18,000 Something I wanted to expand on a bit, old one, is what's in the future for you? 854 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,360 What are some things that you're up to, things that you care about? 855 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:27,320 Yeah, I just wanted to ask a little bit more about what you're up to. 856 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:35,800 What are you up to with the sandbox and the Mochaverse ecosystem? 857 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:43,000 We are also thinking about what can we do with the sandbox now, because we did a lot 858 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,320 of experiments in the sandbox. 859 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:51,600 We had an advertising system in the sandbox, which is almost done there. 860 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:52,600 We had Prototype. 861 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,000 We had everything. 862 00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:00,560 Maybe I think we will try to also submit in the sandbox style for people to maybe to use 863 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:01,560 that thing. 864 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,400 I'm sorry, I got lost a little bit there. 865 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:10,360 You wanted to submit for what to use in the sandbox style? 866 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,040 We had an advertising system. 867 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,040 Yeah. 868 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:21,240 You know you have the inactive frames in the sandbox. 869 00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:28,120 We had a system which you can just upload a link and you can replace the pictures on 870 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:34,520 the NFT frames without enter GameMaker. 871 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:40,120 You know that we held, I don't know if you know that we held different events in a lot 872 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,720 of small effort in that trend station experience. 873 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:48,960 During the sandbox alpha season one, we held different events with different partners like 874 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:55,840 the NFT day and the Zouki community and that time artifact, blah, blah. 875 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,480 It was all using the advertising tour. 876 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:09,760 So it will make the experience more easy to collaborate with partners, something like 877 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,760 that. 878 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:21,600 That also helped the sandbox man owner to promote their experiences. 879 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,600 Got it. 880 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,600 Okay. 881 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,400 And Zita said it was Lulu ads? 882 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,000 Yeah, you can say that name. 883 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,160 It's still in prototype. 884 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,160 Got it. 885 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,160 Okay. 886 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,160 Well, that's interesting because there's an experience that I have been cooking up 887 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,700 that I haven't released because I'm waiting on the very specific mechanic to make itself 888 00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:48,520 known where I would want to utilize an ad system. 889 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:57,000 And so maybe I could use your system and we can work together on that. 890 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,600 I don't know how exportable it is, but I would be very interested in seeing a sip on that. 891 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,600 Sure thing. 892 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:04,600 Cool. 893 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:05,600 Cool. 894 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:06,600 Yeah. 895 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:13,480 So what's next for you is expanding into the sandbox style to see what it is that you could 896 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,880 contribute yourself to it. 897 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:21,160 Yeah, we have a lot of things in our, because we already done. 898 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,240 We even have another thing we call that payment code. 899 00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:31,440 At that moment, we did a lot of models for buildings. 900 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,480 So we have different module which you can just play Lego. 901 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:40,560 You can just put different parts of the building together and you got brand new one. 902 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:46,120 You know, there's a castle in our experience in a lot of forever and that castle is made 903 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,600 by all that building parts. 904 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,280 So we have like hundreds of that assets there. 905 00:56:54,280 --> 00:57:02,720 But with this assets meaning logic, the sandbox having now, it is hard to let people use them 906 00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:08,000 because you need the cat and gems for a single asset. 907 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:14,680 So maybe the DAO can help people to help us to just give this thing for every landowners 908 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:15,680 to make use of. 909 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,120 Yeah, I'm with you on that. 910 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:25,560 I myself experienced that same issue when I was menteeing as well. 911 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,520 Yeah, I can show you some videos later. 912 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,960 Okay, great. 913 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,320 Yeah, I'd love that. 914 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:40,320 Yeah, and on the Mochaverse side, I think we just keep building the culture and I'm 915 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:45,120 doing a Lego project. 916 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,120 What was that? 917 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,120 What project? 918 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,000 Lego, like the toy. 919 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,000 Like Lego? 920 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 921 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,000 Okay, a Lego project. 922 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,000 Yeah. 923 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,000 Cool. 924 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,000 So maybe that sounds like fun. 925 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,000 Yeah, it is. 926 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:08,000 I think I can put the link here. 927 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 928 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,040 I haven't logged into Twitch. 929 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,920 So I sent it to Zeta, maybe she can help. 930 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:22,840 I bet you though, my Streamlabs, I need to like, after this, I'm going to go and tone 931 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,560 it down for Streamlabs. 932 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,200 It's like, it's a little aggressive. 933 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,080 It's fine, it's fine. 934 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:39,400 So basically, I would dig into the, I will keep digging into the Sandbox ecosystem and 935 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,400 Mocha thing. 936 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,960 That's the more, that's the tool I'm into at the moment. 937 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:45,960 Okay. 938 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,280 Yeah, so Zeta just posted it, Streamlabs didn't knock it down, but then I posted it 939 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:52,280 right after you, Zeta. 940 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:58,880 So there is a link to one of your tweets and it looks like it looks, it almost looks like 941 00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,880 Legos. 942 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:00,880 So, Blocktoy. 943 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:01,880 Yeah, it is. 944 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:02,880 Okay, got it. 945 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,720 All right, let's show that here on the stream. 946 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,480 So thank you, Zeta. 947 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:10,960 This is what it looks like. 948 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,080 Thank you, Zeta. 949 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:19,040 Okay, so you've got some animations, Lego Mocha, got it. 950 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,260 How about that? 951 00:59:22,260 --> 00:59:28,080 And there's definitely something to do with Lego and that looks like a Mocha of some kind. 952 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,080 Yeah. 953 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,080 Cool. 954 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,600 Very cool. 955 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,600 So you are, you're busy. 956 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,600 You are working. 957 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,980 Yes, I am. 958 00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:49,560 And that's why you won't find me on the, on the, on G's space. 959 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:50,560 Gotcha. 960 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:51,560 Gotcha. 961 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,880 Okay, so your bandwidth, you have a lot of, a lot of things that you're doing. 962 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,000 Your bandwidth is pretty high. 963 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,000 Okay. 964 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,600 Thank you. 965 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,760 I appreciate you sharing that with us. 966 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,680 And there was one more question from, from G. If you have any questions, go ahead and 967 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,600 get them in because I'm coming toward the end. 968 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:18,040 So G also asked, Popple has a board art project and I believe it was called Board T. Are you 969 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,040 part of that? 970 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,360 Um, not really. 971 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:29,120 We're working together closely, but I'm not really a part of that project. 972 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,120 Got it. 973 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,120 Okay. 974 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:36,560 There you have it, G. Cool. 975 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,560 All right. 976 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,680 I'll scan it one more time. 977 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,240 I'm sorry, bot. 978 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:48,400 Zita is determined to win my bot's heart. 979 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,240 Cool. 980 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,840 All right. 981 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:52,840 I think we're good. 982 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:58,880 Are there, are there any closing remarks you'd like, anything special, any call outs, people 983 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,240 you'd like to give credit to? 984 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:07,120 Um, let's see. 985 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,600 Let's go back to our topic today. 986 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:09,840 Like the Sand Dog style. 987 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:15,120 I think the Sand Dog style and the Mocha style is, it's kind of new and young. 988 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,360 So, but is it, but it is good chance. 989 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,120 So that's just a drawing this together. 990 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,920 Let's explore together. 991 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:23,920 Yeah. 992 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:24,920 Yeah. 993 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,680 This is our chance to build together. 994 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:34,400 I'm certainly, so many of us in the Sandbox style are new in the Sand Fam to Dow. 995 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,480 So it's, it's safe to say that when this was originally announced, I don't know if you 996 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,960 followed exactly what happened right after it was announced. 997 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:46,600 There was a lot of skepticism, a lot of mistrust. 998 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,040 We weren't, we weren't planning for this to happen. 999 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,340 We didn't know it was going to happen. 1000 01:01:51,340 --> 01:01:56,220 So a lot of people saw the Dow and immediately, and a lot of Sand Fam were like, what is this 1001 01:01:56,220 --> 01:01:58,140 and where did it come from? 1002 01:01:58,140 --> 01:02:03,920 But as we see it evolve and grow, the more we see like now Magic Pallet has passed, something 1003 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:10,880 that had 99% of the vote in favor of it, you, you, we can start to see how this is going 1004 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:11,880 to evolve. 1005 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:12,880 And I totally agree. 1006 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,720 This is our chance to build together. 1007 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:21,680 Yes, skepticism is healthy, but can't let it stop from us building something we want 1008 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,080 to see out of the Sandbox. 1009 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:24,080 This is it. 1010 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,560 This is what we get. 1011 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,160 It's our family. 1012 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,340 But I'm glad, I'm glad you mentioned that. 1013 01:02:31,340 --> 01:02:35,520 And thank you for, for making it clear, you know, what, what it is that you're looking 1014 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:41,320 for and, and how you want to participate in the Sandbox style. 1015 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,880 Yeah, thank you. 1016 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:46,880 Thank you, Lancer. 1017 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,880 Thank you for inviting me here. 1018 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,920 We've got this great chance to talk to everyone. 1019 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,720 Yeah, absolutely. 1020 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,240 So that'll conclude our questions. 1021 01:02:55,240 --> 01:03:02,640 The last thing I wanted to hit, now that we are episode six, that one is done with, and 1022 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:09,960 I wanted to, I want to do a deep dive next with Cyril, who is one of the Dow architects. 1023 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,640 And I read through all of his corporate documents that they made available in one of the earlier 1024 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:21,200 SIPs, like what, how they run the things that they do to, to run the Sandbox Foundation. 1025 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,400 And I want to do a deep dive with him to ask him some questions about some things that 1026 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:30,400 Seb had mentioned, and Cyril had mentioned that they eventually want to transfer the 1027 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,120 governance of the Dow to the SanFam. 1028 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:39,760 And so how does that relate to the way the, the Sandbox Foundation company documents are 1029 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:40,760 reported? 1030 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,920 So I'm really looking forward to that. 1031 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,560 And G, you're in chat. 1032 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:52,800 I want to get you in on a podcast with SanFam Cafe and, and Pickaxe Master and maybe BOTB, 1033 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:58,600 some different places that Sandbox Dow congregate, you know, because this is a good place. 1034 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:03,360 This is really interesting, especially now that we know where Old One, where you have 1035 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,560 the WeChat with the Chinese Sandbox landowners. 1036 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:12,520 What are all the places that people congregate in SanFam to talk about the Dow so that we 1037 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:18,940 can build this stuff together and, and be healthy members toward one another. 1038 01:04:18,940 --> 01:04:22,120 So I'm really looking forward to those things. 1039 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:26,960 And Old One, I so appreciate your time. 1040 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:32,860 Thank you for, for coming out here and on such short notice even to telling us about 1041 01:04:32,860 --> 01:04:36,320 yourself and Mocha Cien. 1042 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,640 Thank you. 1043 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:38,640 Thanks everyone. 1044 01:04:38,640 --> 01:05:06,640 And G, thank you Zita and all and everyone here.