1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,280 Alright everybody, welcome. 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:15,120 This is Sandow podcast number two podcast about the sandbox Dow and all the things that 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,100 are important about that. 4 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:21,340 With me today is Pepe from Sandrush. 5 00:00:21,340 --> 00:00:27,280 You may have seen his sandbox improvement proposal that is currently on public comment. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,760 Been on there for almost two weeks so we about hit the 14 day period. 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:39,400 After that, then it goes to sandbox, invite the special counsel for a last ditch check, 8 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:44,280 and then it goes back to us to community for a vote and snapshot. 9 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,680 Welcome Pepe. 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,720 Absolutely. 11 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,240 So at the top, what you all are seeing. 12 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:08,360 Oh, not hearing you say something again, Pepe. 13 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,960 That's because I had you muted my fault. 14 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:10,960 Say it again. 15 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:11,960 Say hello everyone. 16 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:12,960 Hi guys. 17 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:13,960 Great to be here. 18 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:14,960 Thanks for having me. 19 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:15,960 Lansing. 20 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:16,960 There we go. 21 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:17,960 All right. 22 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:18,960 All good. 23 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:26,680 So as you all can see here, I have on the top are the slides that we'll be going through. 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:32,360 And then on the bottom is the magic palette and all the different details that we'll be 25 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,920 going through for this episode. 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:39,680 This episode is all about the look into the sip process. 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:46,080 So both Pepe and myself have submitted SIPs and Pepe's just a little bit further along 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,080 the knife. 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:54,800 But what we decided, what I decided was that the actual creation of an SIP is a little 30 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,600 bit daunting if it's your first time. 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:02,040 So what we're going to do is Pepe and I are going to go through what we answered for ourselves. 32 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,880 And then in that you'll learn more about magic palette. 33 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,200 You'll learn a little bit more about mine and my two sips. 34 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,000 And that way, if you have a sip that you want to create, you can do so. 35 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,240 And now you know how to do it. 36 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:28,840 So I am noticing though that our our video is popping in out for some reason. 37 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,040 It's gonna be just a second. 38 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,040 Figure out what's going on with that. 39 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,040 Sure. 40 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,560 Can you still hear me? 41 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,920 Yeah, I can still hear you. 42 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:47,840 It's a video for some reason decides that it wants to not be cooperative. 43 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,080 Trying to refresh it and see what happens. 44 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,120 I mean, we were Oh, you know what? 45 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,760 I know what's happening. 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:55,840 It's going out of focus. 47 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:56,840 And then that's weird. 48 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,840 That is odd. 49 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,840 All right, cool. 50 00:02:58,840 --> 00:02:59,840 Back in action. 51 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:05,720 So let's go through the normal stuff that I normally go through whenever I run a podcast. 52 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,840 Here's our introductory slide. 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,680 Scope of the talk. 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,040 So what does this talk about? 55 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:19,920 What this talk is about is an investigation and a look into the sips that Pepe and I have 56 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:27,280 submitted and what we've what our reaction is, as we've interacted with the process. 57 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,280 That's what it is. 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:34,080 It's just it's just a look between two people who just went through it. 59 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,080 And next, we'll get into introductions. 60 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,200 So Pepe, if you wouldn't mind, please tell us a little bit about yourself and how you 61 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,200 got to here. 62 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,880 Thanks. 63 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:53,640 Yeah, I, I'm involved in the sandbox since the really early days. 64 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,600 I came through creators fund back then. 65 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:05,120 I was in one of the earliest I was in cell two, I think back then. 66 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:11,240 There were many, many cells or artists cells that worked on assets. 67 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:17,800 If you didn't know what the greatest fund did, it was kind of the goal of sandbox to 68 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:26,440 populate the marketplace with thousands of thousands of high quality assets. 69 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,600 So this is where my journey started. 70 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:39,720 I was kind of this also brought together really like minded people. 71 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,120 I found my co founders through the greatest fund. 72 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,120 Who are your co founders? 73 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:51,600 The co founders is Chris, Cecily and Nest. 74 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Nice. 75 00:04:52,600 --> 00:05:03,000 I founded Sandrush a bit more than two years ago now, so we are a legal entity here, which 76 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,520 is in Switzerland. 77 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:16,080 But our team is all over the world and we are quite this type of metaverse studio widespread. 78 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:26,960 And yeah, I'm coming initially from architecture, interior design, architecture, design, industrial 79 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,040 design. 80 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:42,120 But it just was this urge to create something extraordinary and work with voxels was for 81 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:51,440 me, I never was super deep into, how do you say, 3D modeling, meshes and all that. 82 00:05:51,440 --> 00:06:01,760 But voxel gave me as artists kind of still the option to create and yeah, design. 83 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:07,760 And yeah, from there we did a lot of really cool projects. 84 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:14,440 We worked, for example, for cybercoms, one of the striving, still striving and one of 85 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,880 the top web three communities out there. 86 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,960 We build experiences for them. 87 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:30,560 But our focus was always also a studio building tools and tech for kind of the platform or 88 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:36,680 the not the platform itself, more like for the user and creators and builders. 89 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:43,040 And this is where we are right now exactly with our SIP. 90 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,960 Then we will take a bit closer look today. 91 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:56,320 We have developed one of our tools, why or I would say it's an MVP right now, maybe even 92 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:01,960 a bit further than just minimal viable product. 93 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,240 And this is where we are right now. 94 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,680 Good, good. 95 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,800 Thanks, Pepe. 96 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,560 So I'm Lancer. 97 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,240 I'm president of MetaWorlds. 98 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,280 We published floor droppers and we have two more that are publishing here in the next 99 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:24,360 couple months, Portal Run and Lava Defense. 100 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:30,200 And before that, I was a contract negotiator and contract writer. 101 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:36,120 I'm also a program manager of a big program. 102 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,520 And so I have a business background and a negotiation background. 103 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:47,880 So that's why I'm so bought into the DAO because it's the perfect intersection for me of gaming 104 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:53,080 and business in a way that I have a lot of experience in which is organizing leading 105 00:07:53,080 --> 00:08:02,440 teams and also overarching governance and creating organizations that run efficiently, 106 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,000 effectively and with transparency. 107 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:13,160 I've also for a number of years led a organization that was kind of like a cross between American 108 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:23,560 NFL and ESPN where we would organize weekly tournaments of about 400 players and so there's 109 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,300 a whole like volunteer team behind it and then we'd referee the matches and we'd broadcast 110 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:30,440 them for the PlanetSide 2 MMO FPS game. 111 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,960 And that's the one we broke the Guinness World Record with that we still hold today. 112 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:42,800 So I'm ecstatic that I'm here, that my road has led me to here in sandbox and I've been 113 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:50,000 a gamer involved in San Fam since midway through season one. 114 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,240 So Avatar, Land and now the DAO. 115 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,560 So excited to be here on this. 116 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:05,480 It may not show my face but I am very, very excited to be delving into the DAO. 117 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:13,200 I've just been eating up as much as I could whether it be those the mochaverse, Saturday 118 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,400 recordings and Twitter spaces or the AMAs. 119 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:24,080 I'm halfway through the NFC Lisbon fireside chat with Cyril and Seb. 120 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,840 Learned some interesting things about that that I didn't know before. 121 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:35,760 And so here we are, Pepe and I just running through the SIP process and trying to propose 122 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,960 a proposal. 123 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:42,120 So if some of you aren't aware of what that means, we'll get that. 124 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,080 We have some our slides here. 125 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,120 We'll show the particulars of all of that. 126 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,920 Before we do so, jumping to the disclaimer, Pepe and I do not represent the sandbox game 127 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,640 or the sandbox foundation. 128 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,960 We speak for ourselves as SanFam community members and we are not your financial or legal 129 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:05,480 advisors so nothing we say should be taken as financial or legal advice. 130 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,720 Cool. 131 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,880 Let's start the ground floor. 132 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Some interesting facts that are pertinent to what we're going over now. 133 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,320 SIP stands for Sandbox Improvement Proposal. 134 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,420 DAO stands for Decentralized Autonomous Organization. 135 00:10:22,420 --> 00:10:29,800 Each SIP in order for it to be considered to be passed or not requires a quorum. 136 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:35,120 Right now that quorum is 1% of the sandbox, the sand supply which is 30 million. 137 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:43,100 So there must be 30 million voting power for a SIP to even be allowed to pass. 138 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:47,320 After that, then it's a simple 50% majority. 139 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,200 If you own one sand in your wallet, that's one voting power. 140 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,180 If you own one land, that's 4,500 voting power. 141 00:10:55,180 --> 00:10:57,320 How many SIPs have been submitted so far? 142 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,320 Five. 143 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,200 All five have passed. 144 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,260 There are currently two draft SIPs in the forums and you can see here on this bottom 145 00:11:05,260 --> 00:11:11,820 portion of my screen, there's the magic palette here. 146 00:11:11,820 --> 00:11:14,280 So it's under proposal ideas. 147 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:22,800 If you go to the, go here, underneath announcements and help resources, there's proposal ideas 148 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,280 and underneath that is SIP draft. 149 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:31,560 And there you'll see magic palette and creator first, the two SIPs that are under public 150 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:39,440 comment. 151 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,420 Now there are two SIPs that I submitted in the past week. 152 00:11:43,420 --> 00:11:46,360 They have not made it yet to this SIP draft. 153 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:52,120 They're currently at the foundation for the initial, the initial review before it goes 154 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,120 to public comment. 155 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,120 Interesting. 156 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:03,040 This thing keeps cutting off every time I click. 157 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,920 Anyways, so that's where we are. 158 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,240 That's where we stand now. 159 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:14,080 And let's go over the SIP process. 160 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,200 And per there, the forum, step one is you submit your SIP. 161 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,960 Step two is there a project management review by the Sandbox Dow Foundation and its team. 162 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,280 Then it goes through a moderator review, community review, special counsel review. 163 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:33,360 Then it goes to community voting like the past five did, and then it gets implemented. 164 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,840 So if you're reading that from the forums, you may come across with more questions and 165 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:37,880 answers. 166 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,480 That's good because that's why we're here. 167 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:44,320 We're here to show you what that translates into. 168 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,840 So the first thing you do is you submit via the SIP template and we'll show you what that 169 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:49,840 looks like. 170 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,440 You then email that completed SIP to the Sandbox Dow email. 171 00:12:54,440 --> 00:13:02,720 And that was, you showed you here, right here, sip at sandboxdow.com. 172 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:09,200 Then it goes to after a brief review between yourself and the Sandbox team to improve it 173 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,200 for prime time. 174 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:18,240 I think it's posted to the SIP draft section of the forums where it goes under a 14 day 175 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,040 community response. 176 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:32,320 After that, then it goes to a special council vote, which is Shannon, Fred, Yatsu, Seb, 177 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,200 and I'm missing someone. 178 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,400 Forgive me. 179 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,400 It's going to bug me. 180 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:48,720 We need to know. 181 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,920 And Jean-Michael. 182 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,640 So that it gets voted on as a yes or no to make sure that it's legal. 183 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,640 It's not redundant. 184 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,120 It meets the vision of the Dow. 185 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:11,560 And then after that, then after that, then it goes to a vote to the community via snapshot.org 186 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:14,800 where sandholders and landowners will vote. 187 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:20,120 So that's where that's the overall process. 188 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:25,680 Now when you open up your own SIP template to create, you're going to run across big 189 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,960 sections, big headers, title, council recommendation category. 190 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:31,960 They're too long. 191 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:38,840 Didn't read the SIP details, voting options, appendix, resubmission, and then everything 192 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:44,200 happens after that, which is the email it, get it revised, and then go into comment. 193 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,920 So that is a lot. 194 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,200 There's a lot of stuff. 195 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,200 So we're going to break it down. 196 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:53,280 What Pepe and I did when we answered it for ourselves. 197 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:58,560 So the first thing you'll come across in the SIP template there is this nice little thing 198 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,840 that says a 10K character limit. 199 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,800 So a SIP should typically follow the below guidelines and template to help the Dow members 200 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,280 make a vote and decision. 201 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,280 Nice little picture. 202 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:19,160 So Pepe, did you follow the 10K character limit when you did yours? 203 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,160 You did? 204 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:30,280 It's a good question. 205 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,280 Was it even on your radar? 206 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,720 Did you just, you know, we scroll past this and just went into it? 207 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,720 I did. 208 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Yeah, I did. 209 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,240 But the problem was never told me. 210 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,200 Nobody told me before. 211 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,200 Gotcha. 212 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,560 Yep. 213 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,760 So I only loosely did as well. 214 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,200 I'm minded to bring it underneath that. 215 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,720 But ultimately, no. 216 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:06,440 But basically, I kind of figured it out because I was reading the snapshot documentation. 217 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:12,240 So it was more me like figuring out how things can be done. 218 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,640 For example, what can you use? 219 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:26,400 Can you use video images, markdown formation of your SIP and all that? 220 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:31,320 And this is where I did stumble over this 10K. 221 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,320 You did? 222 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,320 Yeah. 223 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,320 I did too for my second one. 224 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,480 My first one was about window resizing. 225 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,680 And I think I got it in under 10K. 226 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:50,000 My second one, which is the roadmap for Simbox or us to create a roadmap, that one is where 227 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,120 I had a lot more difficulty because it was bigger. 228 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,000 It had more to say. 229 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,800 But yours looked pretty healthy. 230 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:08,200 You've got pictures and you have full details, lots of pictures, which by the way, look awesome. 231 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,240 But then you go like you have a lot. 232 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:18,320 It is below 10K, but it is stretching this. 233 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,360 But I get the feeling that they're probably not too angry about it if you did. 234 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:28,200 It's just to keep it to where they don't have to spend 10 days reading the whole thing. 235 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,520 Yeah, I mean, it totally makes sense. 236 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,560 I agree. 237 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,960 It's totally fine. 238 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,960 And I think it's already quite lengthy. 239 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:45,020 So this is why this and we come to this, I think, this TLDR type of approach. 240 00:17:45,020 --> 00:17:48,480 So you can grasp everything pretty easily. 241 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:55,560 But a lot of stuff still needs to be explained, especially with projects that are a bit more 242 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:06,120 advanced and products or in our case, a full fledged app that we did develop. 243 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:07,120 So yeah. 244 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:08,120 Gotcha. 245 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:10,400 It's fair, but yeah, you need to get there. 246 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,400 It's there. 247 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,720 Pay attention to it for what it's worth. 248 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,080 They even highlighted it. 249 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,200 So I imagine they do care about it. 250 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:22,460 But you know, okay, so the next part is you get to the very top where it tells you to 251 00:18:22,460 --> 00:18:23,460 insert a title. 252 00:18:23,460 --> 00:18:24,460 It was not in my template. 253 00:18:24,460 --> 00:18:25,460 Oh, it wasn't? 254 00:18:25,460 --> 00:18:26,460 Oh, it's in mine. 255 00:18:26,460 --> 00:18:30,480 Now, maybe you're the reason why we've got it, Pepe. 256 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,520 No, it's snapshot. 257 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,520 It's snapshot. 258 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,520 It's not me. 259 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:35,520 Okay, gotcha. 260 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,520 Yeah, yeah. 261 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,320 Snapshot doesn't allow me. 262 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,520 That's funny. 263 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:48,520 If you have any questions, by the way, post them in chat. 264 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,520 Okay. 265 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,120 Anyways, so the next part is the title. 266 00:18:54,120 --> 00:19:00,240 The title, it wants you to give a concise description for the SIP. 267 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,420 Then it goes into council recommendation and the category. 268 00:19:03,420 --> 00:19:07,520 So for concise title, Pepe, what was yours? 269 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:13,240 Magic palette, a powerful design tool for landowners, builders and creators. 270 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:19,000 Mine was window sizing and resolution options for game client, game maker, Vox editor and 271 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,000 launcher. 272 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:28,160 And for my second SIP that I sent out last night was create a roadmap for sandbox releases. 273 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,800 All it is just a very, very short sentence where people can read it and then have an 274 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,560 understanding of what it is that you're after. 275 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,760 The shorter, the better. 276 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,760 Yeah. 277 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:45,160 Yours, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve words. 278 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,840 Mine one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. 279 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,200 So right there next to each other. 280 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Council recommendation, this one they fill out after they discuss, then they, you know, 281 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,720 put it whether it's positive, negative or neutral and that's where in the SIP I think 282 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,320 it was, it shows up in the actual SIP. 283 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,360 Whereas here in the SIP draft, they haven't voted on it yet so you won't see it. 284 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:12,600 But in the five that did pass, you saw in the beginning. 285 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,480 I'm not exactly sure what this means. 286 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,640 Pepe, do you have any idea of what they're after? 287 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,800 Sorry, can you repeat? 288 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,200 I said I'm not exactly sure what they were getting at here. 289 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:35,680 What does it mean to have a negative or neutral recommendation? 290 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,680 I really get you scrambled. 291 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,240 Sorry, I can take the switch audio. 292 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,240 Oh you're having trouble hearing me? 293 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,120 No, sorry. 294 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:53,640 It just drops. 295 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,640 Yeah no problem. 296 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,520 The video freezes every now and again but it's, I can still hear you. 297 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,320 I think everyone else can too. 298 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,080 So what I asked was for council recommendation, did you hear anything? 299 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,080 Yeah, so about the council recommendation. 300 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,080 Yeah. 301 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Yeah, yours is, I imagine yours is going to be positive but do you know any indication 302 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:26,400 of how yours would be negative or neutral or what that would mean to the council? 303 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,400 No idea actually. 304 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,400 Okay. 305 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,840 I was asking in the early process. 306 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:39,240 Okay so that's what it looked like there and for what it's worth, they'll probably go back 307 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,320 and do that. 308 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:46,920 Then here under category, what are you targeting, you have seven different categories to choose 309 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,920 from. 310 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,600 Magic palette, you chose, which one did you choose? 311 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,120 Let me guess game content. 312 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:58,160 Good question. 313 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:07,280 Actually I was asking wouldn't be there a bit more diversified categories available 314 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:19,520 because it's really, at least from my perspective, it's a bit limiting but then again, I mean 315 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,440 I understand that they only want to have a few categories, that's totally fine. 316 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,520 In the end, we were dropped in the game content. 317 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,520 Game content, okay. 318 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,520 Gotcha. 319 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,960 Yeah but then, yeah. 320 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,520 I'm fine with that. 321 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:42,280 I chose game content as well and then for my second one, for the roadmap, I chose platform 322 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,160 because a roadmap would ultimately just be like an artifact that people can consult like 323 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,860 on the website. 324 00:22:47,860 --> 00:22:50,000 On the, where is it here? 325 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,600 On this website, the roadmap, no it's under vision. 326 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,400 Oh excuse me, under dashboard, you know how they have the allocation of the budget and 327 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:03,400 all that so to me, I saw it as something like that whereas my first one is the actual game 328 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,400 changes. 329 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:15,040 But yours is a tool, web-based tool that would then integrate into GameMaker? 330 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:21,320 No, not directly, at least not at this point. 331 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:28,080 It's an independent software so GameMaker runs locally so it's standalone and we really 332 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:37,800 and I also have outlined this in the SIP, we really focused and wanted to be web-based. 333 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:47,680 There are a few reasons to do that in our case so we just kind of have or we aim for 334 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,440 a data transfer in between GameMaker and our software. 335 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,640 Okay gotcha, data transfer. 336 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,400 Yeah, that makes sense. 337 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:07,120 So then the categories for me, yeah it's a bit because platform that you just mentioned, 338 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,520 did you see what was in brackets? 339 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:17,080 It's super stand, finance, yeah like tokenomics and stuff like that. 340 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,100 So this was why it did put me off a bit. 341 00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:24,960 We don't fit here very well to be honest. 342 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:33,800 But yeah, I guess they, yeah the only thing that concerns me a bit here, I imagine that 343 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:41,680 a lot of stuff like ours needs to be thrown into game content even if it's not directly 344 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:49,920 straightforward whatever, making a game or so and it will take away from this kind of 345 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,080 pot of the DAO budget you know. 346 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,080 Gotcha. 347 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:03,200 This is a bit, yeah so this is why I asked in the early days, couldn't be there a bit 348 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,440 of better allocation and all that. 349 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:15,200 But we will see and I think Cyril even said in one AMA that there is the option to reallocate 350 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:20,280 funds to another category you know. 351 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,280 Gotcha, yeah okay. 352 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:31,320 All right, so now we can get into the next portion underneath title, council recommendation 353 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,840 and category, you'll find the TLDR. 354 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:42,440 So they want the TLDR up front and then later on you go into the nitty-gritty of your proposal. 355 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:48,280 So the TLDR is broken down into what, why, how, when, where and who. 356 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:54,400 First with what, it's just a basic overview of the SIP, it includes purpose, significance, 357 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,240 what's going to be voted on, the why, why should the sandbox do this, why should the 358 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:05,520 community vote for you, how are you going to do this, what's the team behind it, what's 359 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,800 the budget, when, so you want to describe the phases, the schedule in which you'll be 360 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:16,940 completing, where, this one we don't fill out, the sandbox team comes back and fills 361 00:26:16,940 --> 00:26:23,880 it in and then who details about who's submitting, so the author. 362 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:31,560 Let's see, so magic palette, web-based creator tool that leverages voxels of building blocks 363 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,560 to streamline the level design process. 364 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:43,680 So it's supposed to be beginner and advanced friendly and you can generate maps, swap themes, 365 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,680 customize levels and work with voxel maps. 366 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,920 So what does that look like when it says generate a map? 367 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:53,640 How do you do that in a web-based tool and then move it over? 368 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,640 Yeah, basically it's exactly as stated here. 369 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:07,520 We have our app kind of can generate procedural, generate content or in this case maps and 370 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:16,000 land we will have one generator live in the demo that goes live soon. 371 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,480 Oh, you're going to do a demo soon? 372 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,480 Yeah, sure. 373 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,480 Oh, cool. 374 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:29,440 Yeah, it's, we need to adjust our, I mean what we have here in the zip is already a 375 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:37,480 few weeks old as we also said and we're pushing the, you know, the goal is to go live, you 376 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:47,440 know, live with a demo or a better release kind of so that everybody can try the software. 377 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:54,320 It will not have or it will have limited export functionalities, but all the rest we already 378 00:27:54,320 --> 00:28:00,000 have in place and actually developing. 379 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,400 And where are you going to do that demo? 380 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,960 YouTube, Twitch, somewhere else? 381 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:11,440 Oh, no, a demo more like in a way that you really can try yourself, you know, we release 382 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,440 a better version. 383 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,920 Oh, you're going to release an early version. 384 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,920 Okay. 385 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,920 Yeah. 386 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,920 Okay. 387 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,920 Via Sandrush's website? 388 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,920 Magicpalette.io. 389 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,920 Oh, that's right. 390 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,680 You put it at the very bottom. 391 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:30,000 Also a section we'll go over is the appendix and you have it down here under additional 392 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,920 resources magicpalette.io. 393 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,680 And there you go so you can sign up. 394 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,480 I imagine that pre-register is what will get you into that. 395 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,480 Yeah, exactly. 396 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,360 That's a really nice website. 397 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,520 Just drop us the email and you get in earlier. 398 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:54,040 At that it's to give you an idea what is possible and what MagicPad can do for you as landowner 399 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,840 or builder. 400 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:06,400 And yeah, that's one part is this procedural generated map or map generation is really 401 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,040 for the non-builders. 402 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:16,480 At least it should enable them to get content to their lands really quickly with a few clicks 403 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,040 already. 404 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:24,200 And the second part is the more I would say advanced approach where we help the builders 405 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:34,560 and the studios and the guys that daily build in the sandbox with doing the level design 406 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:45,360 with a really enhanced and also I would say accelerated approach once you get the hang 407 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,360 of it. 408 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:55,320 So we can kind of design with voxels now and transform them into blocks with MagicPalette. 409 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,480 And this then can be exported to GameMaker. 410 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,480 Okay. 411 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,480 Gotcha. 412 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,520 All right, so that's the what for you. 413 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,200 And what is the what for me? 414 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:17,920 The what for my window resizing that was simply we request that the sandbox dev team prioritizes 415 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,720 updating the graphics setting to allow for windows resizing and resolution options for 416 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,720 GameMaker, BoxEdit, Sandbox Launcher and the game client. 417 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:33,080 Whereas a game client does allow for a little bit of that if your monitor is under 1920. 418 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,400 Anything above that you can't mess with your resolution at all. 419 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,080 And so it's been like that since I've since season one since I've been playing. 420 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,680 And so yeah, that's my what. 421 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,360 And then for creating a what's that? 422 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,360 I love it. 423 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:59,640 It's actually so that's we my team and especially my co founder, Chris, pulls out his hair every 424 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,520 time because he really struggles with it. 425 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,520 I tend to do windowed. 426 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,840 Yeah, I mean, we all know. 427 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,840 I do too. 428 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,880 I do my alt enter. 429 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,920 But not everybody has, you know, that ability to really mess with your window sizing by 430 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,840 by window shortcut keys. 431 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,760 So that's where I want this SIP to tell the sandbox team to prioritize it so we can get 432 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,760 that. 433 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,240 You know, many times I've been in GameMaker wanting to move different assets and stuff 434 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,520 like windows and and use Chrome to do something else. 435 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,400 But I can't because it's like it's huge. 436 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,400 It's stuck. 437 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,440 So I don't know. 438 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:49,000 And then SIP number two to create an easily accessible roadmap that shows the future updates 439 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,760 for game client blocks, edit launcher, GameMaker and the website. 440 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,720 So all the stuff that they're going to do like version 10 create a roadmap for what's 441 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:04,000 going to happen version 11 and 12 and 13 and something like that. 442 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,720 So that's my second one. 443 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,640 And yeah, good times. 444 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,800 And I have like a picture of visual when I created it spent like eight hours making just 445 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,960 the visual is insane. 446 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,440 All right. 447 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,040 Next what's after that? 448 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,320 After the why, which is why should the sandbox style do this? 449 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,560 Excuse me, after the what is the why? 450 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:37,120 And why should the sandbox style do this for a magic palette? 451 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,920 It takes a significant challenge for any platform starting from empty land. 452 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,920 So starting from scratch. 453 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,240 And you put in an interesting stat. 454 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,700 One percent of the 166,000 lands have active experiences. 455 00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:52,700 How did you get that? 456 00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:53,700 How do you figure that out? 457 00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:58,320 I think it's even less. 458 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,120 But I don't know the actual numbers right now. 459 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:12,560 I just know that there are around more than one K published experiences live. 460 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,680 Yeah, that's a really powerful number that I didn't know that. 461 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:22,000 Yeah, I know that all not all lands are sold kind of. 462 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:29,520 So the 166 K or the total full sold map, you know. 463 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,520 Gotcha. 464 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,360 So it's kind of in this ballpark. 465 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,760 I didn't want to go into. 466 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,760 Yeah. 467 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,760 Yeah. 468 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,040 Then you go into there are several barriers that we face as a community. 469 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,920 Great ideas, but not builders or designers themselves. 470 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,920 That's me. 471 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,800 I have 25 different experiences that I have specked out because I'm a creative, I'm a 472 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,240 business person, but I'm not a designer or a builder. 473 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,680 So I'm going into VoxEdit and I have no idea what I'm doing. 474 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:04,520 I go into to GameMaker and I know how to place a block because I played Minecraft before. 475 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:10,480 But like the triggers and the messages behind that and all of the it's tough. 476 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,640 I'm not talented at it. 477 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:19,160 So then I contract and I work with other developers, developer studios like Meta Theory, Eduardo 478 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:26,880 over at Meta Theory and on the days over at DreamJunk and you know, and I find people 479 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,040 that I could work with to help bring that idea into reality. 480 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,440 Extensive time commitments required for project development. 481 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,440 Yeah. 482 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,440 Yeah. 483 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:42,160 If I hadn't had for Builders Challenge when we developed Floor Droppers, we only did it 484 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:49,000 in 14 days, but that is the time we had from when Builders Challenge 1 was announced to 485 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,220 when it started. 486 00:34:50,220 --> 00:34:52,220 So we all worked overtime. 487 00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:58,200 Otherwise it would have taken us a while to build something like that. 488 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:04,160 How many how many experiences have you built, Pepe? 489 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:09,100 We have, as I said, we did for clients. 490 00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:18,560 But Build, of course, we did many, but really published or kind of really, it is a high 491 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,120 published experience are just two right now. 492 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,200 Two? 493 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,760 And how long was your longest one? 494 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,360 Was it multiple months? 495 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,400 Multiple months, yeah. 496 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,400 Yeah. 497 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,980 So that's the extensive time commitments. 498 00:35:34,980 --> 00:35:38,280 So from personal experience, you know that. 499 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,960 Insufficient familiarity with tools and game box set and game over. 500 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,960 Yeah. 501 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,440 Although Sandbox does it better than most where I've seen a lot of tutorials, a lot, 502 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:54,300 and they're constantly streaming on Twitch different facets and different functionalities. 503 00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:57,080 So if you wanted to learn, you can learn. 504 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,640 There is a way to do it. 505 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,640 Limited budgets. 506 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,640 Yes, I'm going to be doing a podcast in the next couple of weeks about the business end 507 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:12,580 of Sandbox and how my studio was hit pretty hard with the catalyst revamp and the change 508 00:36:12,580 --> 00:36:20,200 from old game maker to new game maker fund, GMF 2023 versus GMF 2024, which is what the 509 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,400 Builders Challenge 1 was. 510 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,520 It's GMF 2024. 511 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,920 And my limited budget was strained really hard. 512 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,240 And so I have problems now with sustainability. 513 00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:36,760 I'm going to do a podcast on the numbers behind that and show you all what my calculations 514 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,440 were and how a new studio like myself. 515 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,340 Video Worlds has only not even been in existence for a year yet. 516 00:36:44,340 --> 00:36:48,800 Even though I've been a lurker as a gamer and a landowner and all that, I didn't really 517 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:55,440 get into game maker until I discovered Game Maker Fund 2023 back in, I think it was about 518 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,680 February of last year. 519 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:03,400 That's when I really started like putting proposals together, putting Game Maker Fund 520 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:09,120 proposals to try and get ideas funded and that sort of thing. 521 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:14,060 But yeah, there's a big limited budget unless you walk in and you have a big wallet. 522 00:37:14,060 --> 00:37:18,880 So for the vast majority of us, probably not that situation. 523 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,200 Magic palette addresses the obstacles by providing a tool that accelerates the creation process. 524 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,600 That to me is very clear. 525 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,840 I get why that, how that solves a problem. 526 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,480 Requiring much fewer resources and automatically generates a playable experience with just 527 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,600 a few clicks. 528 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,600 That's cool. 529 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,880 And you got this nice little picture here. 530 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,600 I don't exactly understand. 531 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,520 I think I see that it has like a little palette down here where you choose different blocks 532 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,640 that you want and then it generates, like procedurally generates after that. 533 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,640 Yes? 534 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,640 See? 535 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,100 All right. 536 00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:56,100 That's cool. 537 00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:57,100 That's a cool idea. 538 00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:01,900 So like I know I want this lava looking block, this other lava looking block with like lines 539 00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:07,440 through it and then boom, here's what we'll turn into. 540 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,440 Nice. 541 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,440 Very nice. 542 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:15,520 Okay, so that completes your how or your why section. 543 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,080 For my window resizing sip, my why was... 544 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,600 Oh, I forgot. 545 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,880 I put in my what? 546 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:33,000 I put these thumbnails that I created myself in GIMP and paint of just normal window resizing 547 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:40,160 and then the resolution, like how you can click and do more resolutions. 548 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:45,560 So that took me like two hours. 549 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,600 But it was important to show what we were laughter. 550 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,680 So the why? 551 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,840 For a window resizing to increase the functionality. 552 00:38:53,840 --> 00:39:00,720 Yeah, I mean, I don't think I really need to put a whole lot more but you can resize 553 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:03,880 things and put out more windows. 554 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:10,200 I go into depth later on as to how that helps a game maker or a Vox editor or even someone 555 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,020 who's just playing. 556 00:39:13,020 --> 00:39:18,800 And then my why for the roadmap, this one was a little bit deeper. 557 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:24,800 It gives Sandbox, SanFam and stakeholders an understanding of the release schedule and 558 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,280 it grants us significantly better decision making ability. 559 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,240 This is SanFam Trust and it meets transparency goals. 560 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:40,640 So there's Seb said during the NSC Lisbon that there are about 330,000 creators in the 561 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,960 Sandbox. 562 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,160 I don't know how he calculated that number but I believe him. 563 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,160 He said it multiple times now. 564 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,520 And there are 800, more than 800 partners. 565 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,720 That's not just brand IPs, that's trusted partners and others. 566 00:39:55,720 --> 00:40:03,200 And so with all of us here in this ecosystem, we need to know how releases and updates are 567 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:09,540 being made and when to the game maker, Vox editor. 568 00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:14,760 That way all of the creator studios, the artists, the entrepreneurs, business people, we can 569 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,800 align our plans and activities with the direction of the Sandbox. 570 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,480 And right now, I've asked around. 571 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,320 I can't find one on a website. 572 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,720 I don't know where there is one. 573 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:27,780 Do you know if there is one? 574 00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:28,780 For anything? 575 00:40:28,780 --> 00:40:31,840 No, there is not. 576 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,840 There is not. 577 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,960 It's a good one. 578 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,480 And I mean, partially I know why they do it. 579 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,480 Not. 580 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,400 But on the other hand, as you said, it's so important for this making. 581 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,400 Yeah. 582 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:53,240 When I'm deciding on what I want to fund, I'm deciding on which one is the cheapest and 583 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:59,200 gives me something the fastest or which one meets the intent of what Sandbox functionality 584 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,660 is trying to build to. 585 00:41:01,660 --> 00:41:05,800 If I don't know what they're building to, then all I have is the cheapest, most fastest 586 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,800 one. 587 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,200 Not necessarily the best fit. 588 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,520 Well, that's my dilemma. 589 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,200 All right. 590 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,080 Next one is how. 591 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,720 Team and budget required. 592 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:25,080 So for you, you're seeking 280,000 Sand, which is roughly 140,000 US dollars. 593 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,360 Actually it's 33 cents now. 594 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,480 So a little bit under 100, maybe 120,000 to fund development. 595 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,840 Yes, it's less now. 596 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:40,400 And I'm a bit, we had these numbers in USD or USDC. 597 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,440 It would be even something that is packed to the dollar. 598 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:50,400 Maybe I might need to adjust this one because Sandtrop and the volatility of Sand is so 599 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,400 high. 600 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,400 Yeah. 601 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,400 It's a risk for me. 602 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,800 Yeah, it's a risk for me too. 603 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,300 I'm building Lava Defense and I have a contract that I signed with the Sandbox six, eight 604 00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:03,500 months ago. 605 00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:07,000 And so what we agreed on then, you know, volatility of the Sand. 606 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,860 So yeah, I feel you on that. 607 00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:15,360 So launch the magic palette for the builder's team and the landowners of the Sandbox with 608 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,160 a beta release in the upcoming weeks. 609 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,920 And then you go into that later on here. 610 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,320 Okay. 611 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:32,200 For mine, the how is the dowel issue requests for the window resizing step to the Sandbox 612 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,760 project managers of the listed programs. 613 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,360 That's GameMaker, all that. 614 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,400 To make both resizing program windows and adjusting screen resolutions a high priority fix and 615 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,900 future updates. 616 00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:46,760 That's my how. 617 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,480 And then for creating a roadmap, our how is we propose different options. 618 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,880 The first option was hire the MetaWorlds team. 619 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,600 So hire my team to build it. 620 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:06,020 We'll build a open kind of like a Google Sheet pivot table macro formula enabled chart system 621 00:43:06,020 --> 00:43:11,800 that will be able to do updates in real time and it's easily accessible. 622 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,920 But option B would be then to have the Sandbox team create their own. 623 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,040 Maybe they don't like that having, you know, our team do it for them. 624 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:27,240 But instead, so option B would be for them to create it themselves. 625 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:31,040 And then continuously update it after that. 626 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,680 And I create a mockup of what that would look like. 627 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:44,500 So this is what took me eight hours to build in Google Sheets and slide. 628 00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:50,120 So there would be like a macro enabled formulaic like pivot chart, pivot table type thing where 629 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:57,800 you input data into a table and then that table will automatically generate a roadmap 630 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,300 and easily updated. 631 00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:05,400 So it's very achievable now with today's technology and the way Google Sheets and everything runs. 632 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:13,880 So it show specifically like what is the platform, what is the update that's coming, and then 633 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,620 the different quarters of when is it going to start, how, when is it going to finish 634 00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:23,880 its development, and then when will it release to the community, done across all the different 635 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,160 platforms of Game Maker, VoxEdit, website. 636 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,680 And yeah, and then it would track its progress. 637 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:40,680 So for this add a roadmap, if we started it in 4.23 and it finished development, it's 638 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,200 now on its way to release. 639 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,160 So testing all that, and then we release it in a month. 640 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,200 This is what that would look like. 641 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,600 So that's my how. 642 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:57,040 And then the legend underneath it would be the legend. 643 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,520 So the next one is in the SIP template is the win. 644 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,960 Win of phases and the roadmap. 645 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:10,320 And for you, Pepe, you have four phases. 646 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:15,760 So can you walk us through, you've got finalized core, do testing, do a demo release, and official 647 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,080 public release. 648 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:23,360 So how does that work with, you said you're about to do a demo release. 649 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,680 Does that mean we're in phase three now? 650 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:34,800 Can I repeat the last sentence? 651 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,600 When you said that there's a demo, you're almost to the point where you demo release, 652 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,160 does that mean we're in phase three that you mentioned here in the win? 653 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,160 Yeah, exactly. 654 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,320 So you're already through phase one and two? 655 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,040 No, not really. 656 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:56,120 I mean, we have things in the works and things are implemented, things needs to be tested. 657 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:02,760 So we're really kind of just pushing as fast as possible because right now we think it's 658 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:10,680 crucial that we might even go earlier with the demo so that people can try and see what 659 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,600 Magic Pallet is all about. 660 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:20,320 But this is the base plan right now. 661 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:30,080 And a lot of stuff is in the works and I mean, again, back to the 10k character limitation. 662 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:36,200 We only wanted to outline a few things so that's clear what we are working on. 663 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:44,160 But there are so many features and quite exciting features that are even not here on this SIP. 664 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,160 Gotcha. 665 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:51,400 Okay, so the next phase after the demo release is going to be the official beta public release. 666 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,400 Nice. 667 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,400 Yeah. 668 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,760 You're pretty far along already then. 669 00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:03,440 Yeah, of course, we invested a lot of time, development time, our own funds and resources 670 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,440 into this. 671 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:12,840 This is also why we have this minimal viable product already kind of ready and we can work 672 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,000 with it. 673 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,280 It came out of our own production, as I always thought. 674 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,720 It's really it did evolve along the way. 675 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:28,800 But since a few months, we really push hard on development of Magic Pallet. 676 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,800 Gotcha. 677 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,320 Yeah, no, makes sense. 678 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,280 And that explains a lot of our situations, you know, especially Game Maker, not Game 679 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:43,920 Maker, excuse me, Builders Challenge 2, where most of us did those at our expense. 680 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:49,160 With the hope that we would receive a reward at the end versus old Game Maker where you 681 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,560 went on contract, you were paying them out and then you delivered. 682 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:59,360 So a lot of us now, a lot of studios, a lot of us artists and everyone, we are doing this 683 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:09,520 at our own expense and looking to get compensated for it and rewarded for our hard work. 684 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,600 But this looks awesome, Pepe. 685 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,200 Just the pictures alone really bring it home, even though it's not really to me as the audience 686 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:23,780 because I'm not a Game Maker to the extent that you're probably expecting other people 687 00:48:23,780 --> 00:48:25,160 to be. 688 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,080 But this just this looks well researched. 689 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,720 It looks well put together. 690 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:39,240 All right, the next one is the the when, no, the where. 691 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:43,320 Oh, you did who first? 692 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,880 After the when, or excuse me, the where, link to corresponding discourse. 693 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:52,560 Okay, so they must have removed that from the template, whereas in mine, the where is 694 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,820 still there. 695 00:48:54,820 --> 00:49:00,400 So they must remove this portion before it goes to public comment. 696 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:06,960 And then this link to corresponding discourse would be the actual link that it posted in 697 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,960 the SIPP draft. 698 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,920 Okay, yeah, that makes sense. 699 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,840 So then the who, Pepe, it's all about you after that. 700 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,040 So you are Sandrush, a TSB Hall of Fame member. 701 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:27,000 Is there a Hall of Fame? 702 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,080 Pepe? 703 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,080 Can you hear me? 704 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,080 No, sorry. 705 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,080 No? 706 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,080 I always lost. 707 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,080 The TSB Hall of Fame member. 708 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 709 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,120 Okay, it's kind of up there. 710 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,160 You can see it on their page somewhere. 711 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,160 See it on their page. 712 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,160 Now, let's I want to take a look at this. 713 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,960 TSB Hall of Fame. 714 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:58,960 Yeah, a few early studios and creators that have this title. 715 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,160 But yeah, it's fun. 716 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,240 I think it's in their documentation. 717 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:08,360 In their documentation about the sandbox, maybe? 718 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,760 In the Gitbook or so. 719 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,240 In the Gitbook? 720 00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:12,240 Okay. 721 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:13,240 Hall of Fame. 722 00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:15,240 I've got to check this out. 723 00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:17,520 Nope, no results there. 724 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,680 Must be in somewhere else then. 725 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:27,200 So it's not on their actual website, like the sandbox.game? 726 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,400 I think if I remember correctly. 727 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,040 I believe you. 728 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,040 It's somewhere, huh? 729 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,040 I can dig it. 730 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,320 Listed as Hall of Fame. 731 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,400 Yeah, yeah. 732 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,400 That's all right. 733 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,080 I believe you, Pepe. 734 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,920 The Hall of Fame, okay. 735 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,280 And you're a trusted partner. 736 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,280 That's cool. 737 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:51,500 I only just became a trusted partner maybe a month or two ago at the end of Builders 738 00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:53,520 Challenge 1. 739 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:58,040 And if you want to be a trusted partner, by the way, there is a on their trusted partner 740 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:04,800 document page, there's a link where you can submit your application. 741 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,760 So I would highly recommend it. 742 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,120 I'm still new to it, Pepe, but from what I understand, trusted partner, they just send 743 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:17,760 me a few extra emails saying, hey, do you want to apply to be in the next season for 744 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,080 Sandbox? 745 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,040 So I don't know. 746 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,040 What else do you get as a trusted partner? 747 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,560 Yeah. 748 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:35,160 Actually, I mean, you would have the opportunity to work for brands and IPs that they onboard. 749 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:47,880 But it's really kind of, I mean, in all the years and we are trusted partners since the 750 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:54,640 fourth year, almost two years, probably. 751 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,360 There is not much coming from this. 752 00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,360 Got it. 753 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,360 Got it. 754 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:06,680 So I mean, it's kind of in the end, it's the sticker. 755 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,680 I got you. 756 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:08,680 I need to be honest. 757 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:09,680 We don't. 758 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:10,680 Yeah. 759 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,680 We give a fuck about stickers. 760 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:14,680 Yeah. 761 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:15,680 Yeah. 762 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:22,160 As you said, I mean, people can reach you through their platform and kind of write you 763 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,160 directly. 764 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,160 Yeah. 765 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,160 Under find an agency here. 766 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,160 Yeah, exactly. 767 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,640 So you could search. 768 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,960 We're here at Sandbox trusted partners. 769 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,200 Then you can search Sandrush. 770 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,200 And there he is. 771 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,880 Sandrush. 772 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,680 Official partner. 773 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,160 And if you search MetaWorlds, I should be there too. 774 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,160 There we are. 775 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,640 MetaWorlds. 776 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,120 All right. 777 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,180 So yeah, as he said, I haven't noticed anything huge change yet. 778 00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:07,280 But as I understand it, there's a little bit extra getting involved. 779 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,600 But I was interested to know that because yesterday or the day before you were on Sandfam 780 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:18,200 Cafe with AU24K and he mentioned a number of times the access that trusted partners 781 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,080 have and I'm like, I'm a trusted partner now and I don't feel like I have a whole lot of 782 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:27,320 extra access, but you know, I want to ask you about that because I know you've been 783 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:33,200 here for a lot longer on that side. 784 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,840 Access to what? 785 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,440 Trusted partner. 786 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,080 Whatever that gives you access to. 787 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,400 It drops in your audio. 788 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,000 Oh, does it? 789 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,680 I can still hear myself really, really well on Twitch. 790 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,840 I could switch to Twitch as well, but then I have my Echo. 791 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,720 Okay, gotcha. 792 00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:57,600 Can you repeat the question about? 793 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:58,600 It's okay. 794 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,080 I was just wondering about the trusted partner, but you already answered it. 795 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,080 Yeah. 796 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:09,040 I mean, one thing that I think you mentioned something here, one thing that actually is 797 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:19,000 beneficial for us at least is getting access to two versions of Gimmick or Voxelite or 798 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:25,440 at least get these insights a bit earlier, kind of what mechanics it taps into what you 799 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:32,600 want to achieve with the roadmap thing, you know, you get a bit of heads up on things. 800 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:40,280 For example, when before 0.10, Gimmick came out, there was a presentation, what all the 801 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:45,600 features and then sometimes you also have early access and all that. 802 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,600 Yeah. 803 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,360 So things like that. 804 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,360 Gotcha. 805 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,360 Okay. 806 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,040 So you get a little bit of extra advanced notice. 807 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,320 All right. 808 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,720 And so you work with cyber Kongs. 809 00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:58,800 I remember cyber Kongs. 810 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:04,720 You continuously innovate and deliver state of the art web three solutions. 811 00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:09,120 And then here's an example of one of your products. 812 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,360 Those solutions for my window resizing. 813 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:20,320 I just had a picture of myself and then my background as a contributor and then my professional 814 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:26,520 background as a contract manager and program manager and business entrepreneur, that sort 815 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,840 of thing. 816 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:34,600 And then Donson also on Metal Worlds team, he helped co author this SIP. 817 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:42,720 He's also a crypto enthusiast and has been involved for a while now in crypto and he's 818 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:44,240 also a program manager. 819 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:54,460 So and we lead teams and we build projects and do things for our industry. 820 00:55:54,460 --> 00:56:01,080 And so that will bring us to the end of the SIP, the TLDR section. 821 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,200 TLDR. 822 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:09,040 So that is meant to be kind of like a short snapshot of your later portion, which are 823 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,040 the SIP details. 824 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:15,720 The SIP details are where you go into a lot of depth that you only hinted at during the 825 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:18,360 TLDR. 826 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:24,960 And as a result, huh, you know, I just noticed I'm coming in twice. 827 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,760 That might be why you can't hear me very well, Pepe. 828 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,400 Let's fix that for a second. 829 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:39,680 Yeah, usually it works good. 830 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,320 But then, oh, there we go. 831 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,600 I accidentally had one of my other mixes. 832 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:48,920 So that that should fix it. 833 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,720 So now I'm no longer coming in different channels. 834 00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:52,720 All right. 835 00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:53,720 Cool. 836 00:56:53,720 --> 00:57:01,360 So in the SIP details, you have your background, context, description, rationale and benefit 837 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,920 and your risk analysis. 838 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:08,960 Your background context is about what problem you're trying to solve. 839 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,800 Then you want to go into description, which is what do you aim to achieve? 840 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,840 And then you want to get specific actions, changes that you're going to implement. 841 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,160 Then your rationale and benefit, which will explain why this SIP is necessary for the 842 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:28,720 DAO and what does it do for the ecosystem of the sandbox? 843 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,960 So not just benefiting you getting paid to do something. 844 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,440 What value does this bring to the community, to the SanFam? 845 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:42,560 And then risk analysis, identify any points of failure, anything that's going to be of 846 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,800 a risk to your project. 847 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,800 OK, so that is the. 848 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:57,560 Yep, so that is the the SIP details. 849 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,560 So for the first part. 850 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,000 Background context. 851 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,480 So as you can see already here, I'll move it over to this part. 852 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:14,240 So as you can see here underneath the TLDR section, we start getting to the background 853 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,720 context. 854 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:22,480 You you start seeing paragraphs of information and and mine sent very similar. 855 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:31,880 So Peppa goes into to the tools that are offered, which how the buildup to why he feels that 856 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,240 the magic palette is going to be a beneficial thing. 857 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:40,880 And how he's explained it into web and introducing new features. 858 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,760 And you're convinced this tool should be available to everyone. 859 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,160 Then he goes into the features. 860 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,160 So it's web based. 861 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,220 It converts voxel models to DSP block based levels. 862 00:58:52,220 --> 00:58:54,360 It's compatible with the editor. 863 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,880 It is it supports import export, which, by the way, I love that. 864 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,080 That's awesome. 865 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,680 Easy direct block swapping. 866 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,200 I'm interested to know what that means. 867 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:08,280 It sounds like it's a secret proprietary stuff. 868 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:14,440 And then for advanced search and filters, customizable colors, block mode, perspective 869 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,560 mode and screenshot capabilities, and then a detailed block inspector. 870 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,520 I don't know what that means, but. 871 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,960 Yeah, yeah. 872 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,240 All the revolves around kind of this is why it's called magic palette. 873 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,820 You build in voxel. 874 00:59:29,820 --> 00:59:37,160 Each voxel is represented with a color and each color kind of then gets transformed into 875 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,660 a block. 876 00:59:38,660 --> 00:59:44,960 And this is the link, you know, and therefore you need to be able to work in magic palette 877 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,120 with not only voxels, but also blocks. 878 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:56,180 So as you also see here, we provide tons of blocks, more than than 1000 blocks for free 879 00:59:56,180 --> 01:00:02,160 kind of for you to start getting your product off the ground. 880 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:07,680 And this is yeah, this is the basic magic that happens. 881 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,080 We kind of. 882 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:18,560 Or in this intersection of building fast, iterating fast, using your powerful voxel 883 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:23,000 tools like magic of voxels or even box edit. 884 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,600 It's also fun. 885 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:32,840 But magic, for example, and also other voxel tools that are available right now have really 886 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:38,840 powerful features that can help you. 887 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:39,840 They have shaders. 888 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,400 You can really combine stuff and all that. 889 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:49,040 And this then allows you to build fast and really advanced. 890 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,640 I would say in an advanced approach. 891 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:52,640 Yeah. 892 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:57,680 You have a dungeon generator and has over 60 rooms. 893 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:03,880 So he's really going into detail here about what it is that he's offering, what it is 894 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:08,400 that magic palette will offer and hundreds of unique levels. 895 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:17,320 So this is really a way to expedite your game making and different extra tools of swapping 896 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,140 and customization. 897 01:01:20,140 --> 01:01:26,560 So as you can see, he's put a lot of time and effort into like even here in this this 898 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:33,600 description, how with simple blocks you can procedurally generate something which you 899 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,280 can then modify. 900 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,400 And what that does is if you've ever done a game maker thing before, even I've done 901 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,080 a little bit of it block by block by block by block. 902 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,080 That's tough. 903 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,080 That is tough. 904 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,080 Tough world out there. 905 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:55,880 So for mine, go for it. 906 01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,240 For mine, let's go to the background for my windows resizing. 907 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,900 I said as of June 17, which is when we originally built this sip, users are not able to resize 908 01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:11,520 program windows with the current versions that are out there right now. 909 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:18,720 So all I do is just kind of detail what it is that that we we started with. 910 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,680 This makes routine window management for computer users very difficult. 911 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:31,600 And it complicates activities that it's it's very standard with with other programs, especially 912 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,440 like if you have a single monitor where you can split screen, if you have a word doc and 913 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:40,240 a word doc open, you have half your screen a word doc and the other half you have a picture 914 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:47,560 and you that facilitates your productivity with with game maker box edit launcher, especially 915 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:48,560 the launcher. 916 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:49,640 Now I think it's huge. 917 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,720 And a game client, you can't customize that. 918 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,140 All right. 919 01:02:55,140 --> 01:02:57,640 So what was the issue to be addressed? 920 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,840 Enable resizing through interaction with window borders. 921 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,600 That's your normal like you resize a window, click and drag and then enable a list of resolution 922 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,720 options within the graphics settings. 923 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,640 So that's my sip for window sizing. 924 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:15,340 For a roadmap, it would be. 925 01:03:15,340 --> 01:03:18,040 It would be here. 926 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:23,000 I link it to the sandbox dials vision statement, which transparency is their fourth goal, by 927 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,000 the way. 928 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,840 So you can look that up in their. 929 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:32,600 Where is it here under the vision and then vision you see here's one one community many 930 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:37,880 parts working with impact empowerment and the fourth one is transparency. 931 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:44,700 So I link it to that and it basically gets to the point where we want them to openly 932 01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:49,760 share their decisions, information and processes to ensure that Sam fam is involved. 933 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,080 And that's exactly the way they describe it on their website. 934 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,800 And the creation of a public roadmap will directly contribute to transparency goals 935 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,000 and a specific challenge, at least for me. 936 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:07,800 And I've heard this from other people is a lot of software updates are short notice. 937 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,980 We only hear about them right before they come. 938 01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:17,800 And that presents a problem because for me, who I'm trying to plan out many experiences 939 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:24,800 across a timeline, I know some experiences will emphasize this key feature or this key 940 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,820 feature or that key feature. 941 01:04:26,820 --> 01:04:32,360 And if I can see a roadmap, then I know to position my third experience is number one 942 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:38,340 because that is the the upgrade that will become available in the next game maker release. 943 01:04:38,340 --> 01:04:44,880 So that that really helps me build things that are, you know, will take six months. 944 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:45,880 Right. 945 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,800 Pepe, sometimes yours take many, many months. 946 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,580 You know, my my experiences sometimes sometimes take six months to build. 947 01:04:53,580 --> 01:05:00,240 And so if I know what it is that we're that we're going to get from our updates, then 948 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:05,480 I can position that better and something more timely to the sand fam. 949 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:10,920 So yeah, that's the background of mine for the roadmap. 950 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:18,600 OK, the next one is the description of what it aims to achieve. 951 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:23,200 And for magic palette, we already went over the description, didn't we? 952 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,480 I know you combined years it looked like you combine your description with your background 953 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:28,480 in your context. 954 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:29,480 Right. 955 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:35,960 Because you go straight into the benefit after that here. 956 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:36,960 Yeah, I think so. 957 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,080 I'm not sure. 958 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:45,260 And my description was basically a what what does it look like? 959 01:05:45,260 --> 01:05:51,360 So resizing of the windows launcher for for the one for the resizing SIP adjustment of 960 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,840 the screen resolution within the client and the use case would be instead of doing Alt 961 01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:02,080 Tab or Alt Enter to do Windows management, we can resize just like like right now I have 962 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,080 on my screen. 963 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,080 I have Discord and a small window. 964 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,600 I have my stream labs, another small window. 965 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:17,160 Then I have my my my top window here and then I have my bottom window here. 966 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:21,640 And it allows me to see everything at once and enhances my productivity instead of Alt 967 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:28,160 Tabbing quickly while I'm talking to Pepe, I can now see things and interact with much 968 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,040 better. 969 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:38,160 And then for my description of the roadmap, I just talk about what are the programs that 970 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:43,560 we're going to affect and what are the milestones and the phases we're going to track. 971 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:48,400 And what does it look like when you interact with the roadmap? 972 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:57,720 Okay, and the next portion is the next portion is the rationale and the benefit, which is 973 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:04,880 we have to explain why why this SIP is necessary. 974 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:10,400 So Pepe, what did you put for yours? 975 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:17,320 Magic palette garnered strong support, but then the design team can you tell us about 976 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,320 that? 977 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:28,680 Do I need to repeat? 978 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,120 Yeah, sorry. 979 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,080 I once again get right here. 980 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,320 Magic palette garnered strong support from the TSB design team. 981 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,920 Can you tell us about that? 982 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,320 No. 983 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:47,000 So I have trouble hearing me. 984 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,000 Yeah, sorry. 985 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:55,000 Garnered strong support from the TSB level design team. 986 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,040 Yeah, exactly. 987 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,120 What happened there? 988 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:07,440 We kind of pitched magic palette to not SAP first. 989 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:17,320 We kind of did go where we think it would be used the most and this would be the internal 990 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,620 production team. 991 01:08:20,620 --> 01:08:34,120 So we are in direct contact with our director of TSB and his team and especially the team 992 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:41,680 around the level designers and all the guys that really daily are working on XP's. 993 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:48,800 And this is where we start to discuss what magic palette can do for them. 994 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:55,240 And yeah, we have really, really great feedback from them already. 995 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:56,240 Yeah. 996 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:57,240 Great. 997 01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,800 Blue Tulip, you raided me. 998 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,360 I did not see that until just now. 999 01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:03,360 Thank you so much for that. 1000 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,360 I appreciate it. 1001 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:11,480 So if you're just joining us, what we're doing right now is we're going over in depth into 1002 01:09:11,480 --> 01:09:12,600 the SIP process. 1003 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,720 Both Pepe and myself have submitted two SIPs. 1004 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,200 One is magic palette. 1005 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,020 My SIP was render resizing and my other SIP was roadmap. 1006 01:09:22,020 --> 01:09:26,560 So what we're doing is for everyone's benefit, we're going through what we did to answer 1007 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,600 the questions to submit the SIP. 1008 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:33,800 So that if you all are interested in that, then you all can do the same thing. 1009 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,760 And you basically have to fill out this template and then it goes through a back and forth 1010 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,320 with the team. 1011 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,480 And then it goes to public comment and then it goes to a vote. 1012 01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:47,600 So we're just going over that now so that other people can see what it is that we did 1013 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:48,680 to fill it out. 1014 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:49,960 It is pretty big. 1015 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,980 So we're going through it. 1016 01:09:51,980 --> 01:09:58,860 We just finished the TLDR and we're now into the SIP details here that talk about the specifics 1017 01:09:58,860 --> 01:10:01,260 of your SIP. 1018 01:10:01,260 --> 01:10:02,760 So welcome and thank you, Blue. 1019 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,480 Appreciate that that raid. 1020 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:16,560 All right, so we were just at benefit and Pepe was explaining the what he filled out 1021 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:23,440 for his and what it meant when it said it garnered strong support. 1022 01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:36,240 So my my what was mine, mine was that the windows resizing is a is an issue that's problematic 1023 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,000 to gamers, developers, artists alike. 1024 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:46,320 I mean, we many times we need to use multiple window configurations, like a like a picture 1025 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:53,040 up in the top left, especially now Windows 11 that offers automatic resizing. 1026 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:59,360 So if you hover over that little square of your window, what will pop up is this little 1027 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:00,900 block diagram. 1028 01:11:00,900 --> 01:11:04,880 And if you you can have like one window be most of the screen or another window be a 1029 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,320 small set of the screen. 1030 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:16,480 Actually I'll just see if I can't do resizing right now. 1031 01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:23,080 Now it won't let me but anyways, so we can't do that with the current way that the renders 1032 01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:26,760 resizing doesn't work or the windows resolution. 1033 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,740 So it allows us for more productivity and easier easier creation. 1034 01:11:30,740 --> 01:11:35,920 So if you're working on Magic palette, you've got your when your web based browser with 1035 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:41,640 Pepe's Magic ballot, and then you can have your game maker on the same screen with windows 1036 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,200 resizing and with resolution options. 1037 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,760 So you could be doing both instead of alt tabbing between one and alt tabbing between 1038 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,880 another. 1039 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:55,240 So they go Pepe plugged for Magic palette. 1040 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,240 And then for the roadmap. 1041 01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:06,880 And then for the roadmap, it's just it's going to help us spend our time, money and energy 1042 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:11,980 a lot easier if we have a roadmap for that set. 1043 01:12:11,980 --> 01:12:17,840 And it grants us the ability to especially with so many builders challenges and game 1044 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:24,000 jams and city jams, and the game maker fun proposals with the different stuff that's 1045 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,040 coming out for game maker and box editor. 1046 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:32,520 And it's, it would help me because I have 25 experiences that I want to build that list 1047 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:37,080 25 experiences, I've only built three of them. 1048 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,080 Right. 1049 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,400 So I have a lot more to go. 1050 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,500 Each one has a different focus or different type of mini game I want to put out there. 1051 01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:49,160 If I can see a roadmap that says, hey, we've got the shooting mechanic, or functionality 1052 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:53,480 it's going to release by the end of December 2024. 1053 01:12:53,480 --> 01:12:56,160 And then after that, we have a teleportation mechanic. 1054 01:12:56,160 --> 01:13:01,760 And after that, blah, blah, blah, blah, then I know I can rearrange my 25 experiences to 1055 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,560 be built through that timeline. 1056 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:13,560 Yeah, so it's just much easier to use time and money, knowing what the roadmap would 1057 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:14,560 look like. 1058 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,120 And that's the benefit for that step. 1059 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:24,240 Alright, so let's go back to the very last portion of the details, which is the risk 1060 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,880 analysis. 1061 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:32,720 So down here, very, very bottom, very small portion called the risk analysis where you're 1062 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:38,640 to identify potential risks or downsides and how it will mitigate. 1063 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,680 Let's take a look at what you put. 1064 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:41,680 Pepe. 1065 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:48,160 So yours was the risk associated or minimal. 1066 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:54,640 The direct data transfer will pose some technical challenges. 1067 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:59,560 And you're in direct contact with the sandbox team to enable this. 1068 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:08,440 So it sounds like there's a little bit of a difficulty for the data transfer. 1069 01:14:08,440 --> 01:14:09,440 Can you hear me? 1070 01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:12,280 Yeah, I'm having audio troubles for you again. 1071 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:13,280 I couldn't hear you. 1072 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,600 Okay, but I guess it's about the data transfer. 1073 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:17,600 That's right. 1074 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,200 You see me highlighted. 1075 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,200 That's why I do it. 1076 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,640 So this is one of the crucial final puzzle pieces that we need to solve. 1077 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:37,280 And it's really the thing where we also need kind of the support of GSP directly. 1078 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:44,360 We have this already kind of lined up, but this takes time, as we all know, and to set 1079 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:48,400 things up, to make it work, to test things. 1080 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:56,600 So this is kind of where we really need to interact with Game Maker development team. 1081 01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,760 And until now, everything that we did is reverse engineered. 1082 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,000 So it's all on us. 1083 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:12,040 And now at some point, we just can't solve it by ourselves because we need this interaction 1084 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:13,280 with Game Maker. 1085 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,280 Yeah. 1086 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,280 Okay. 1087 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:21,400 So are you close to figuring that out, or is it still a problem? 1088 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,140 We would not say it is a problem. 1089 01:15:24,140 --> 01:15:32,200 But as I said, it needs time and it needs there a kind of coming out. 1090 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,200 There is nothing. 1091 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,200 There is no API. 1092 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,200 There is no hook. 1093 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:36,200 That's right. 1094 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:37,200 Yeah, there's no API. 1095 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,800 There is nothing. 1096 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:51,000 And this is where we kind of also hopefully create a place a bit for other people and 1097 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:56,880 other developers and other studios that want to build something for the platform or on 1098 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,920 top of the existing tools. 1099 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,600 That's another good SIP idea, by the way. 1100 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,840 Someone better beat Peppa and I to it. 1101 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:11,360 SandboxDAL requests from the sandbox and api.sandbox.game. 1102 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,360 Do it. 1103 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:15,640 Someone better beat me to it. 1104 01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,600 I'm probably going to livestream that one. 1105 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,080 And if you beat me to it, then it's all yours. 1106 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,680 So good. 1107 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:22,680 Cool. 1108 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:23,680 Yeah. 1109 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:24,680 Yeah. 1110 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:29,880 It's something that is urgently needed in our opinion, especially since they also talk 1111 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,160 about kind of opening up things and all that. 1112 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,080 And yeah, I always. 1113 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,080 Yeah. 1114 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:42,280 So there's a technical risk with the data transfer that you'll have to overcome. 1115 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:51,640 For Windows resizing SIP, my technical risk was that this priority that we request of 1116 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,720 the sandbox could offset another priority. 1117 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,560 We don't have access to a roadmap. 1118 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,160 So I don't know what those priorities would be. 1119 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,280 Yeah, but it could offset something else. 1120 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:07,360 And then SIP number two for me was the roadmap SIP. 1121 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:13,440 That risk was the creation of a roadmap will require involvement and input from the TSB 1122 01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:14,440 program team. 1123 01:17:14,440 --> 01:17:24,480 So their cooperation will be vital in helping us gather the data we need to produce a roadmap. 1124 01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:30,920 And then this also assumes that the sandbox team has milestones with which to create a 1125 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,640 roadmap from. 1126 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,120 I assume they do internally, but I don't know. 1127 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:36,460 I've never seen one. 1128 01:17:36,460 --> 01:17:41,160 So if they don't have internal milestones to where I can build a roadmap from that, 1129 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,200 I would need to create them with the team. 1130 01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,760 So that's a risk. 1131 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,640 All right. 1132 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,200 What's next? 1133 01:17:53,200 --> 01:18:00,120 Next is now we start getting into the how. 1134 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,880 We've got to get into implementation plan. 1135 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:07,120 Hold on a second. 1136 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:14,560 I need to fix that. 1137 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,360 I need to chop some of the text up. 1138 01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,000 So it's just. 1139 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:27,720 Then this one is these. 1140 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:33,800 So next one is implementation plan and then the resources required and the metrics for 1141 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,240 success. 1142 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:41,520 The implementation plan is the steps or phases of the proposal and a realistic timeline for 1143 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,240 implementation with key milestones and deadlines. 1144 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:49,920 So this is where you really got to prove that you can deliver and when you can deliver. 1145 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,440 All right. 1146 01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:57,960 So you are dedicated to a swift phase rollout of Magic palette. 1147 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:04,240 We target a four month development period following the DAL approval and you have a 1148 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,000 detailed roadmap below. 1149 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,320 Look at the roadmap. 1150 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,840 Is it this phase one, two, three, four right here? 1151 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:12,840 Yep. 1152 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,440 That's the roadmap. 1153 01:19:14,440 --> 01:19:15,440 OK. 1154 01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:21,640 So phase one, seventy thousand sand. 1155 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,520 This is where you would implement these things. 1156 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:30,240 Phase two, then you'd implement these things. 1157 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:34,400 Phase three, implement these things. 1158 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,320 Phase four, there's that data transfer. 1159 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:43,240 So you're giving yourself time to work through that risk so that it doesn't impact your project. 1160 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:44,240 OK. 1161 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,720 Yeah, that makes sense. 1162 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,000 The earlier the better. 1163 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,000 But we need. 1164 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,040 Yeah, it's not only up to us. 1165 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,040 Yeah. 1166 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,100 This is why we need a bit of time here. 1167 01:19:55,100 --> 01:20:00,880 But as I said, a lot of stuff is already in place and probably some of you guys did see 1168 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:01,880 it in the demo. 1169 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:02,880 Yeah. 1170 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:09,160 There are and a lot of things are also not mentioned here. 1171 01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:14,920 A lot of features and quite cool things that you already can do. 1172 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:20,360 I just tried to outline a few key key points. 1173 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,040 And I noticed here that I missed this when I read through it the first time. 1174 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,520 You want to do a Magic Palette Builders Contest. 1175 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:28,520 Yeah. 1176 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:29,520 Yeah. 1177 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:37,520 That will be kind of concluding this phase and this funding period and all that so that 1178 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:44,360 we really can encourage creators to start working with it. 1179 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:51,080 And of course, we already have a lot of other and exciting things lined up for Magic Palette 1180 01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,680 that comes after these four phases. 1181 01:20:55,680 --> 01:21:00,600 But this also depends a bit on the feedback and of the community and the builders, what 1182 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,600 they would love to see next. 1183 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:10,480 We have our roadmap, but we are super flexible and open here to adjust. 1184 01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:11,480 Yeah. 1185 01:21:11,480 --> 01:21:12,600 Yeah. 1186 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:19,800 So as you can see, as part of this SIP template, we have to put in how we're going to implement 1187 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,880 it. 1188 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:28,000 That way you all can be confident as a community that we know what it is we're trying to deliver. 1189 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:33,420 Then we get into everyone's favorite part, the resources required. 1190 01:21:33,420 --> 01:21:37,560 How much money are you really asking for? 1191 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,540 And what is it that you need? 1192 01:21:40,540 --> 01:21:46,740 So for Magic Palette, oh, you went to, oh, you combine that too. 1193 01:21:46,740 --> 01:21:53,320 So here for phase one, you're asking for 70, phase two, 70, phase three, 70, phase four, 1194 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:54,320 70. 1195 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,320 And that will equal the 260,000. 1196 01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,000 280,000 sand. 1197 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,000 Okay. 1198 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:12,000 And then for me, for Windows resizing, I requested no funds. 1199 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,880 It would be on the sandbox team to just implement it in their development phase. 1200 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:22,720 And I saw no need for me to ask any money from the Dow on that one. 1201 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:27,120 And then for number two, my roadmap SIP. 1202 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:32,600 Oh, I forgot about the implementation plan, didn't I? 1203 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:33,880 Oh, right. 1204 01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:40,480 So the implementation plan for the roadmap, there, you know, it'd go through a process 1205 01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:46,480 of signing an NDA with the sandbox team, getting access to their material. 1206 01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:51,640 So that's about 30 days worth of time, then draft the actual roadmap for 30 days, then 1207 01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,840 get that reviewed by sandbox team for 20 days. 1208 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:59,400 Then it finalized the roadmap within five days and then get it to publish to sandbox.game 1209 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:00,720 within five days. 1210 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,120 And then after that, the sandbox team will take ownership of it. 1211 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:09,160 If the sandbox team decided, this right here again is what it looks like. 1212 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:10,520 There's a legend. 1213 01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:14,680 And then this is the table that we would create behind it to where any program manager would 1214 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,060 go in and just insert the data. 1215 01:23:17,060 --> 01:23:21,680 And then it would automatically in real time, create the roadmap. 1216 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,800 So it would adjust as the table adjusts. 1217 01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:29,000 That's the power of pivot tables and pivot charts and macros in Excel. 1218 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:33,520 Very, very doable, very reasonable. 1219 01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:37,880 And then option B. So if the sandbox team decided that they didn't want to do that, 1220 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,640 because in this SIP, I give them the option. 1221 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,160 What we vote on is do we want a roadmap? 1222 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:44,160 Yes or no. 1223 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:50,120 And then the sandbox team, I say, if you want to hire the MetaWorlds team, we can create 1224 01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:55,520 it for you or you can rely on yourselves as option B and the sandbox team creates it themselves. 1225 01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:59,040 And then I give them a potential roadmap for them to follow as well. 1226 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,320 A timeline. 1227 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:02,600 Resources required. 1228 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:08,720 If the... 1229 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,240 For this one, because of how much research and effort it took for us to put it in, I 1230 01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:19,980 requested 2000 sand for the MetaWorlds team, just for the SIP, if it propasses. 1231 01:24:19,980 --> 01:24:28,760 And then if the sandbox team chooses option A, then we request about $15,000 in USD. 1232 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,220 And that will get us four subject matter experts. 1233 01:24:32,220 --> 01:24:39,600 So that's your data entry, your programmer, and all the other positions like that. 1234 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:45,560 That also includes overhead sales tax and profit, which we only ask for 500 bucks in 1235 01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:46,560 profit. 1236 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,040 So pretty low number. 1237 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,360 And then a 90-day development timeline. 1238 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,500 The resources we require with the cooperation of the sandbox team. 1239 01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:56,260 And then here's our team breakout. 1240 01:24:56,260 --> 01:25:02,000 Project manager, data analyst, configuration manager, and interface designer. 1241 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:07,660 And so that would give us the programming, then make sure it has a good user interface 1242 01:25:07,660 --> 01:25:10,640 and that it works correctly. 1243 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,400 Okay. 1244 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,920 So that is the resources required. 1245 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:17,920 Okay. 1246 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,520 So then the next one is metrics for success. 1247 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,040 And so this one is a... 1248 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:31,540 After you deliver something, then how do you know that what you delivered impacts the community? 1249 01:25:31,540 --> 01:25:33,080 How did it make an impact? 1250 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:37,640 What metrics are you using to judge whether you did a good job or a bad job? 1251 01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,760 And that's the metrics. 1252 01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,860 So Magic Palette, your metrics. 1253 01:25:43,860 --> 01:25:45,820 You want to use app usage. 1254 01:25:45,820 --> 01:25:50,360 So I assume there'll be like unique users and that sort of thing on your website. 1255 01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:51,360 Yeah. 1256 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:52,360 Yeah. 1257 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,080 I mean, yeah, we don't... 1258 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:56,520 I'll state it here. 1259 01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:04,100 We don't track and it's basically, yeah, users can log in for free and they should be able 1260 01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:08,440 to use Magic Palette however they like. 1261 01:26:08,440 --> 01:26:19,920 And of course, we also can track who exactly took kind of Magic Palette as a tool to create 1262 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,720 their experience. 1263 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:29,320 But we will probably see this on the map or these experiences popping up on the map. 1264 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:38,600 And there are some indicators because they couldn't be done in GameMaker, you know, because 1265 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:45,680 you have now more powerful tools available to Terraform and all that. 1266 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:55,360 So this will be interesting too, but we can track directly what in the end will be published 1267 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:56,360 as land. 1268 01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,440 You know, it's not possible. 1269 01:26:58,440 --> 01:27:02,080 Do you have a number of how many users you would say is success? 1270 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,080 Is it 500? 1271 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:04,080 Is it 5,000? 1272 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:05,080 5 million? 1273 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:10,680 Probably not 5 million at this point. 1274 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,040 But yeah, we would love to scale, of course. 1275 01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:20,600 And it depends heavily on this initial... 1276 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:27,440 It's all about kind of showing what is possible and then bringing in the users. 1277 01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:36,280 And the users hopefully will at least show all the others that are not onboarded yet 1278 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:42,360 that there is a benefit of using Magic Palette for this early design phase. 1279 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,960 Is that where you came up with a thousand users per month? 1280 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,760 Yeah, exactly. 1281 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:52,740 This is more like people that just want to try out some build. 1282 01:27:52,740 --> 01:27:59,040 And that said, we already have stuff in the pipeline that will accelerate this version. 1283 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,680 Okay, cool. 1284 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:08,680 For me, Windows resizing SIP, my metric for success is I call the definition of done, 1285 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:14,680 is when all users of GameMaker, Box Editor, Sandbox Launcher, and Sandbox Game Client 1286 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:20,080 are able to resize their program window with selected preset resolutions. 1287 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,080 So it's binary. 1288 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:24,560 Do we have it or do we not? 1289 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:29,960 And that those improvements are made within the next two releases of each program. 1290 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:34,000 Or before December 31st of this year, whichever one comes first. 1291 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:42,360 So if GameMaker releases two updates between now and December, then we would expect it 1292 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:46,520 to be no later than that second release. 1293 01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:52,200 Or if they only release one this year, and they're gonna release a second one next year, 1294 01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,740 they do it before December 31st. 1295 01:28:54,740 --> 01:28:58,480 Whichever one. 1296 01:28:58,480 --> 01:28:59,480 That's my metric for success. 1297 01:28:59,480 --> 01:29:02,480 Do you have it or you don't? 1298 01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:04,680 Fair enough, yeah. 1299 01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:05,680 Okay. 1300 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:14,900 And then for my second one, my second SIP for the roadmap is success criteria one, deliver 1301 01:29:14,900 --> 01:29:20,080 a functional draft roadmap within whether option A or B. And then my second success 1302 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:25,740 criteria deliver a fully functional final roadmap where people can input data and it 1303 01:29:25,740 --> 01:29:32,220 changes the roadmap in real time like it's supposed to. 1304 01:29:32,220 --> 01:29:33,960 Simple enough. 1305 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,160 Okay. 1306 01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:44,200 So then once you hit metrics for success, you are done with the SIP details portion. 1307 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:49,200 So again, as a highlight, going back up to where we were. 1308 01:29:49,200 --> 01:30:04,920 So we already did the title, council recommendation, the category, the SIP details. 1309 01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:10,680 We just finished that. 1310 01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,600 And now, why is it doing that? 1311 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:15,600 Oh, highlight. 1312 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:16,600 Yeah. 1313 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:20,800 So then now we're on voting options. 1314 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:21,800 After that we hit appendix. 1315 01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,960 So after you do the SIP details, you've done the vast majority of the template. 1316 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,000 You're now almost done. 1317 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,000 So voting options. 1318 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,520 Let's head on over to voting options. 1319 01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,240 Pretty easy. 1320 01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:38,080 It basically says, state the options. 1321 01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,200 The first five had yes, no, and abstain. 1322 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,200 And let's see what. 1323 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,720 Oops, I'm in the wrong side. 1324 01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:46,720 My fault. 1325 01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:47,720 This one. 1326 01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:49,600 There we go. 1327 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:50,600 Voting options. 1328 01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,160 Yes, no. 1329 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,940 Or abstain or create your own voting options. 1330 01:30:55,940 --> 01:30:58,160 And then how long you want to seven days. 1331 01:30:58,160 --> 01:30:59,440 You want to 14 days. 1332 01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:00,440 What do you want? 1333 01:31:00,440 --> 01:31:01,760 All right, magic palette. 1334 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:02,760 What did you want? 1335 01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:03,760 There's voting. 1336 01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:13,560 I think you can construct quite sophisticated voting schedules and kind of the yeah, we 1337 01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:18,120 have this option A, option B, you vote for this and that. 1338 01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:24,520 But in the end, it's for us, it's just you like the project and you want to support us 1339 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,920 or not or you abstain. 1340 01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,640 So we're just going basic here. 1341 01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,840 The voting period is fixed. 1342 01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,400 I think this can't be changed if I'm correct. 1343 01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,120 It's always these 14 days. 1344 01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:41,120 As far as I know. 1345 01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:42,120 Okay. 1346 01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:44,640 Well, it says here usually seven days. 1347 01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:48,800 Not really sure then why is that? 1348 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:49,800 It's 14. 1349 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:50,800 Okay. 1350 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:51,800 Okay. 1351 01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:52,800 It's two weeks fix. 1352 01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:56,120 At least this is what we were communicating. 1353 01:31:56,120 --> 01:32:01,440 So when you worked with the sandbox development team, they told you, you don't need to really 1354 01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:02,920 worry about that portion. 1355 01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:06,280 Yes, no abstain and then 14 days. 1356 01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:17,680 Yeah, I think as I said, you can do more sophisticated vote voting options. 1357 01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:29,400 But it's always these 14 days forum discussion, then the check, the council and then it goes 1358 01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:34,720 live for 14 days. 1359 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:38,800 Okay. 1360 01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:44,000 So for me, Windows resizing, do you want Windows resizing and vote resolution options? 1361 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,240 Yes, no abstain and then 14 days. 1362 01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:48,240 Okay. 1363 01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,200 And then same thing for the roadmap. 1364 01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,040 Do you should a roadmap for sandbox releases be created? 1365 01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:56,160 Yes, no abstain 14 days. 1366 01:32:56,160 --> 01:33:00,560 It I mean, it takes all of like three minutes to write. 1367 01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:01,560 Yeah. 1368 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:02,560 Okay. 1369 01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:06,040 And then next, after voting options. 1370 01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,680 So we're now done with voting options. 1371 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:09,680 Next is the appendix. 1372 01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:15,280 And the appendix is what you can use to put in extra stuff, things that are important 1373 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,520 for people to know about. 1374 01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:25,900 They offer these contact information, alternatives, amendments, and additional resources. 1375 01:33:25,900 --> 01:33:32,560 So for us, or in a magic palette, I mean, you have in your appendix, you have your, 1376 01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:40,860 your ex Twitter profile, your discord, and then your sand rush website. 1377 01:33:40,860 --> 01:33:46,720 And then for alternatives considered, you opted against develop developing magic palette 1378 01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:52,360 as a standalone document or desktop software over performance. 1379 01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:55,380 Oh, you. 1380 01:33:55,380 --> 01:33:59,080 You prioritize accessibility and user trust. 1381 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:00,080 Okay. 1382 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,080 Yeah. 1383 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:02,880 Got it. 1384 01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:08,160 And because it's web based, you can access it seamlessly via anywhere. 1385 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,160 Okay. 1386 01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,320 Okay. 1387 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:18,280 I mean, we have, we would have, because we could tap into your, your CPU and all that. 1388 01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:23,760 We could have more powerful features kind of in magic palette. 1389 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:30,800 But as you see here, there are good reasons why we don't need these right now. 1390 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,320 This can still follow later. 1391 01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:39,060 So that's, there's something a pro pro version that you install. 1392 01:34:39,060 --> 01:34:44,000 But to really get everybody on board, this is why we did this. 1393 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:45,000 Yeah. 1394 01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:46,000 Okay. 1395 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:49,000 That makes sense. 1396 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:53,760 We're done with that one. 1397 01:34:53,760 --> 01:35:00,480 Now we're on the appendix. 1398 01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:12,880 Yeah, you can kind of drop your links, your socials and all that. 1399 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:13,880 Right. 1400 01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:19,400 It's kind of cool because people can find you and find out more about your project and 1401 01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:20,720 who's behind it. 1402 01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,480 So I think this makes a lot of sense. 1403 01:35:23,480 --> 01:35:24,480 I think we. 1404 01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:25,480 Yeah. 1405 01:35:25,480 --> 01:35:31,800 Talks about welcoming feedback and suggestions for open to integrating. 1406 01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,520 Thank you for your vote. 1407 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:37,600 Adventure awaits. 1408 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:41,020 And then under additional resources, here's your register link. 1409 01:35:41,020 --> 01:35:44,360 So magic palette.io where you can register to get the demo. 1410 01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,120 And then the one pager. 1411 01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:49,320 Oh, built a one pager. 1412 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:50,600 Oh, okay. 1413 01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:54,960 I didn't see this. 1414 01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:55,960 Who built this? 1415 01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:56,960 Who made this image? 1416 01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:57,960 Is it you? 1417 01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:58,960 Yeah. 1418 01:35:58,960 --> 01:35:59,960 That's cool. 1419 01:35:59,960 --> 01:36:00,960 That's cool. 1420 01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:01,960 It's quite stuffed. 1421 01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:02,960 So don't get overwhelmed. 1422 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:09,960 But if you want to be a bit more, yeah, a lot of stuff is here. 1423 01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:10,960 Yeah. 1424 01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:11,960 Okay. 1425 01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:18,400 So for Windows resizing, I have the authors where the discourse link is where it would 1426 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:19,880 end up. 1427 01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:25,720 And then I also put in the program versions, the differences of what I found when I looked 1428 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:26,920 at game maker. 1429 01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:31,720 It does have resolution, has a list of resolutions for under 1920 by 1080. 1430 01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:36,360 But it does not allow when Windows resizing at all. 1431 01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:39,400 And it doesn't have a list of resolutions above 1920. 1432 01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:43,320 For game client, the current version doesn't allow either. 1433 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:49,560 And for boxed edit beta doesn't allow either. 1434 01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:51,720 It doesn't even have a settings button, actually. 1435 01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:55,600 So there's that. 1436 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,680 And then for I think that was the end of it, right. 1437 01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:03,640 And that was the end of my proposal and the appendix for Windows resizing and resolutions 1438 01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,020 for my sip for creating a roadmap. 1439 01:37:06,020 --> 01:37:09,640 Same thing author and Donson, myself and Donson. 1440 01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:13,800 And then the current program versions that I referenced. 1441 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:17,040 And that's all I had for them. 1442 01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:18,400 And that's it. 1443 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:22,720 That was my those are my two steps that I proposed. 1444 01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:31,000 And then here is the sip that that Pepe proposed was sent the San Rush team. 1445 01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:32,520 Nice. 1446 01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,000 Nice. 1447 01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:42,280 Let's go back to here. 1448 01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:46,520 The zoom is pretty intense. 1449 01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,840 There we go. 1450 01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:49,840 That's better. 1451 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:54,320 All right. 1452 01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:58,720 So in case of resubmission, I didn't really know much about that until I read your section. 1453 01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:00,540 Now I get why they had that there. 1454 01:38:00,540 --> 01:38:04,680 So that was like instilling confidence that we're going to fix things and we're open to 1455 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:05,680 fixing things. 1456 01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,320 So I get that now. 1457 01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:15,280 No, I think this one is really if you kind of were rejected and want to resubmit, I think 1458 01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:22,640 there's a three month time period where you kind of blocked and then you can resubmit if 1459 01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,280 I understand correctly. 1460 01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:32,840 So in case if we would deny it, we will need to wait restructure, rethink our project and 1461 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:37,600 then publish again, you know, or submit again. 1462 01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,240 Got it. 1463 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:40,240 Okay. 1464 01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,760 So that does that. 1465 01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:49,640 All right, so now we have gone over the whole template. 1466 01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:59,220 But once you're done with the template, then you have after that, a little bit more difficult 1467 01:38:59,220 --> 01:39:03,760 navigating right now, then you have the email submission. 1468 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:09,240 So whoops, I forgot to put that part. 1469 01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,240 It's funny. 1470 01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:20,880 So after that, then you email it to the their email, which is 1471 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,920 Holds all ideas. 1472 01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:27,000 So sip at sandbox.com. 1473 01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,480 Once you email it to them, then you get an email response and hey, we found it. 1474 01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:32,320 We've got your sip. 1475 01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:39,760 And we're now going to to talk about internally and then go back and forth between you and 1476 01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:40,760 them. 1477 01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:44,840 How did the back and forth go between your team and the sandbox team before it went to 1478 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:49,680 zip draft? 1479 01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:51,360 Not that long. 1480 01:39:51,360 --> 01:40:00,440 I mean, it was it was more kind of this period, because the DAO was not live yet, you know. 1481 01:40:00,440 --> 01:40:06,880 But in the end, it's it's kind of we also submitted and they said, Oh, looks all good. 1482 01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,720 So we basically didn't need to change. 1483 01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:19,520 Side changes were coming from researching a bit about snapshot, for example, this 10k 1484 01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,880 limit character limit. 1485 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:23,880 Sorry. 1486 01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,360 This was not stated back then. 1487 01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:29,920 And I think they even didn't know about it. 1488 01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:35,280 So I resubmitted or kind of resend them a new draft. 1489 01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:41,320 And then we just waited until the DAO did go live, you know, and from there, we knew 1490 01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:46,320 that we get into this second batch, not the first one. 1491 01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:52,040 This was already pre pre made and defined. 1492 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:53,040 But the second one. 1493 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:54,040 Okay. 1494 01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:55,040 Okay, gotcha. 1495 01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:58,320 And how long did that back and forth go on for a week? 1496 01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:01,720 More than that? 1497 01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:07,120 There was no back and forth, resubmitted and they said it's all good, you know. 1498 01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:09,160 Oh, so it was instant. 1499 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:10,160 Okay. 1500 01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:17,600 So for Pepe, I know, it was instantly approved. 1501 01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:26,320 Not approved, but they said it's all good, you know, it's kind of they didn't have things 1502 01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,280 that they thought we should change. 1503 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,000 Okay, so there were there were no recommended changes. 1504 01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:35,000 It was just ready to go. 1505 01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:36,000 Exactly. 1506 01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:37,000 Yeah. 1507 01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:53,160 Okay, so Sandbox DAO program management team did not require changes and posted to Sandbox 1508 01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:54,160 down the forum. 1509 01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:59,080 So we should be coming up pretty close on your 14 day period, right? 1510 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:03,640 Yeah, it's until next Wednesday. 1511 01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:04,640 Yeah. 1512 01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:05,640 All right. 1513 01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:06,640 Three more days. 1514 01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:07,640 Yeah. 1515 01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:08,640 Three more days. 1516 01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:21,920 So then it so the public comment closes 26, Wednesday, 26 June. 1517 01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:23,400 So it's Wednesday. 1518 01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:33,160 So if you would like to submit any any feedback to Magic palette, having to Wednesday to do 1519 01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:37,360 it, as you can see, a lot of people did say something. 1520 01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:42,360 Your Dan Koy loves it. 1521 01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:44,000 That is responding back. 1522 01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,800 And then as he's responding back, he's also looking at war, do we need to make changes? 1523 01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:52,400 Are there anything we can do now before it goes to final vote? 1524 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:57,560 Von front and talks about how this is sorely needed. 1525 01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:03,280 A nano likes it. 1526 01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:04,280 Escape room. 1527 01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:07,040 I saw you in the chat escape room. 1528 01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:14,760 And escape room just gave you lots of love and and why he's excited about it. 1529 01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:19,800 And again, you've been very, very communicative. 1530 01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,360 You've been communicating a lot with people. 1531 01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:30,440 How important was it to you to respond back to the community comments? 1532 01:43:30,440 --> 01:43:32,400 I think it's it's crucial. 1533 01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:40,400 I mean, in the end, these are the people that will vote or not vote and or kind of vote 1534 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:42,000 for you or against. 1535 01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:52,560 I guess the. this is also something that kind of the same. 1536 01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:55,240 It's not the concept. 1537 01:43:55,240 --> 01:44:02,880 It's kind of the support team around Syria and all that that the Dow team kind of. 1538 01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:10,440 Brings to your heart and say, yeah, I mean, this is your chance to to interact with with 1539 01:44:10,440 --> 01:44:17,640 the community and and let them know what you're doing, what you're building, what's your project 1540 01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:19,240 all about. 1541 01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:25,320 And it's it's a perfect place to exchange thoughts and also have the opportunity now 1542 01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,460 to update the SIP. 1543 01:44:28,460 --> 01:44:33,920 So Wednesday, when it goes, I'm not sure if it goes live Wednesday. 1544 01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:43,380 I'm still not super into all the details yet, and we will see it on our own. 1545 01:44:43,380 --> 01:44:51,000 But one thing that is clear, we now have your feedback from the community and we're super 1546 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,840 grateful about that. 1547 01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:57,560 And we can adjust certain things in our SIP now. 1548 01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:01,640 And then it goes on chain and will be live for voting. 1549 01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:02,640 Got it. 1550 01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,640 OK. 1551 01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:07,480 OK, so it's it's super important. 1552 01:45:07,480 --> 01:45:14,320 But it even can be commented and will be commented when it's live, as we did see with the other 1553 01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,080 SIPs, you know. 1554 01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:20,720 But you can't as creator, you can't change anything then. 1555 01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:23,480 It is kind of on chain. 1556 01:45:23,480 --> 01:45:30,200 So it's important to if you have concerns, please raise them now, because then we can 1557 01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:34,880 react and might might adjust things if you think. 1558 01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,360 Yeah, we should. 1559 01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:38,360 Oh, typist. 1560 01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:39,360 Nice. 1561 01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,360 So definitely some community outpouring. 1562 01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:44,560 It looks really, really good so far. 1563 01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:47,800 A lot of people are very excited about this. 1564 01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:52,040 And many of them are saying the same thing that Crypto Diplo is saying. 1565 01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:56,880 This is exactly the sort of thing that we should be funding tools to help build our 1566 01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:01,480 platform so that we can do what we do better. 1567 01:46:01,480 --> 01:46:05,200 All right. 1568 01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:10,520 So once you've submitted it, then there is a there's a back and forth. 1569 01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:15,920 The back and forth goes on public comment. 1570 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:24,140 Once the public comment concludes, then as we know, has been talked about by seven serial 1571 01:46:24,140 --> 01:46:31,820 is that it will then go to a yes no vote by the special counsel here. 1572 01:46:31,820 --> 01:46:37,600 And what they'll be looking at is legality, redundancy, conflict, and community interests. 1573 01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:45,120 So as long as it abides by those basic rules, then it will go to on chain vote via snapshot 1574 01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:50,960 dot org and sandbox dial dot com where people can vote using their voting power. 1575 01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,680 And then it's yes or no at that point. 1576 01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:58,520 So that is the process as it stands right now. 1577 01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:06,720 Pepe and I have pushed out three sips between us. 1578 01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,680 He has magic palette when it's going on right now. 1579 01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:11,960 It'll hit voting first. 1580 01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:18,360 And then mine are currently going to the back and forth with a sandbox management team before 1581 01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:23,240 it goes here into the SIP draft folder alongside magic palette. 1582 01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:29,880 So very excited for both of us really, especially the magic palette and the tool that you want 1583 01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,680 to build for the community. 1584 01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:39,880 And as a reminder, the road to the Dow here, it was announced May 28. 1585 01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,320 So that's how long we've all known about the Dow. 1586 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:49,360 And since then, there have been a long road of clarifications, AMAs, we've had five sips 1587 01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:55,360 that were passed and two now are on the docket for the next voting round. 1588 01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:59,280 There are a lot of different spaces for Sandow right now. 1589 01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:00,280 I say a lot. 1590 01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:01,280 There's a few. 1591 01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:04,600 Shout out to G and the mocha verse. 1592 01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:12,160 They're now doing Sandow or sandbox Dow discussions on their mocha verse Mondays. 1593 01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:16,720 And then you also have my sandbox Dow podcast. 1594 01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:18,360 I call Sandow. 1595 01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:25,380 I have about how many 16 different episodes planned, by the way, everything from community 1596 01:48:25,380 --> 01:48:33,360 reactions to lessons learned from other Dows, comparison of the white paper to the Dow and 1597 01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:38,480 a reading through of the foundational articles and memos that they posted. 1598 01:48:38,480 --> 01:48:41,340 We just did a review of the SIP process. 1599 01:48:41,340 --> 01:48:46,960 So that one is now done. 1600 01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:51,600 And then a review of the catalyst changes, different stuff that I've seen that want to 1601 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:56,280 really delve into a very Dow centric sort of thing. 1602 01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:59,520 But those are my future episodes. 1603 01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,780 And we have not been at this very long. 1604 01:49:01,780 --> 01:49:03,040 So we're still learning. 1605 01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,920 We're still learning as a community. 1606 01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:06,920 So what do you think, Pepe? 1607 01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:08,920 What are your final thoughts? 1608 01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:09,920 Cool. 1609 01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:18,440 Yeah, thanks again for doing this deep dive here and structuring it that well. 1610 01:49:18,440 --> 01:49:23,200 I think it gives us a good overview. 1611 01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:27,840 I mean, today we dived into the template mainly. 1612 01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:34,600 And it's not that hard, but it needs a bit of effort. 1613 01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:44,160 I think it's fair enough, and especially for the more advanced projects that also requesting 1614 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:52,040 funds that people should know what you are after and what you are building. 1615 01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:59,840 So it's super important how the Dow itself will pan out and how the voting, for example, 1616 01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:07,000 for our projects will go, this is yet to be seen. 1617 01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:10,520 We are excited kind of. 1618 01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:15,720 And we're super grateful for all your support here also in the chat and the community. 1619 01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:17,720 Thanks again, guys. 1620 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,160 Yeah, super awesome. 1621 01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:26,520 Yeah, it's a road that we take and we push it. 1622 01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:27,520 Yeah. 1623 01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:31,360 Well, thank you, Pepe, for coming on this episode. 1624 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:36,360 Shout out to Andy and Hoddle, who was on episode number one. 1625 01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:40,380 That was our community reaction episode. 1626 01:50:40,380 --> 01:50:46,660 Also shout out to San Fam Cafe, who is doing monthly episodes. 1627 01:50:46,660 --> 01:50:47,660 Really cool. 1628 01:50:47,660 --> 01:50:48,800 I love listening to pickaxe. 1629 01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,320 And Pepe was just on it. 1630 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:59,160 San Fam Cafe number six this past week, alongside AU24K and the missing one. 1631 01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,120 Who is the fourth? 1632 01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:03,760 Joe, Vision X. 1633 01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:08,960 Oh, of course, Joseph, who will also be on a podcast here. 1634 01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,400 But shout out to all of them and the good work they're doing. 1635 01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:17,160 Dr. Metaverse for hosting the AMA, G for hosting the Mochaverse Mondays. 1636 01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:28,480 And tomorrow we'll be doing this, but with the other the other sip, the creator's first 1637 01:51:28,480 --> 01:51:30,960 sip with Cyril. 1638 01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:35,880 Not to be confused with the other Cyril, the sandboxed out Cyril. 1639 01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:40,080 This is Cyril, who came up with the creator's first. 1640 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:41,780 We'll go over that tomorrow. 1641 01:51:41,780 --> 01:51:50,520 And then on Monday, we'll have another podcast episode with Crafter and Joseph on their community 1642 01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:51,640 reaction. 1643 01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:55,560 So a lot of stuff coming up for Sandow podcast. 1644 01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,080 And we're just trying to work through it, everybody. 1645 01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,680 We're all trying to work through it as a team, as a community. 1646 01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:09,700 A lot of love to everyone who's out there trying to do stuff to build a strong Sandow 1647 01:52:09,700 --> 01:52:11,480 that we all want to succeed. 1648 01:52:11,480 --> 01:52:14,040 I mean, we're all pretty well decided. 1649 01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:19,360 Now that it's here, now that we understand what it's here to do, it's here to help us. 1650 01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:26,480 It's here to build the platform to build a community so that we can we can all succeed. 1651 01:52:26,480 --> 01:52:30,040 And that's yeah, that's where we'll leave it. 1652 01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:37,600 So thank you all again, Pepe from Sand Rush and myself, Lancer from MetaWorlds. 1653 01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:38,600 Appreciate your time. 1654 01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:41,560 Thank you for coming and let's find someone to raid. 1655 01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:43,040 Pepe, who should we raid? 1656 01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,360 Let's take a look. 1657 01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:48,400 Not sure if someone is online. 1658 01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:50,840 Let's find someone online. 1659 01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,560 We have anyone from the sandbox? 1660 01:52:53,560 --> 01:53:00,000 Am I the only one on the only channel? 1661 01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,560 Looks like I am the only channel. 1662 01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:05,480 So OK, we're going to have you. 1663 01:53:05,480 --> 01:53:12,960 I thought it was going to go. 1664 01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:14,240 Come on, HODL. 1665 01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:17,520 I thought Joseph was doing a 24 hour stream. 1666 01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:21,440 He did say he wasn't feeling well, so that might have been it. 1667 01:53:21,440 --> 01:53:23,400 But yeah, thank you all. 1668 01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:24,400 His one is done. 1669 01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:25,400 Yeah, yeah, he's done. 1670 01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:26,400 OK. 1671 01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,440 And and and he just dropped in with his guys here. 1672 01:53:29,440 --> 01:53:30,440 Oh, did he? 1673 01:53:30,440 --> 01:53:32,440 Oh, blue tulip is live. 1674 01:53:32,440 --> 01:53:33,440 Cool. 1675 01:53:33,440 --> 01:53:34,440 Yeah, well, thank you. 1676 01:53:34,440 --> 01:53:35,440 Appreciate you all. 1677 01:53:35,440 --> 01:53:38,480 See you tomorrow and happy San Fam.