1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,920 Hi, and welcome to our brand new 30 series Chronicles podcast, a show that's hopefully 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,560 going to open your eyes to something, dare I say, supernatural happening out there that's 3 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,400 been going on for centuries, whether we choose to believe it or not. 4 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:30,320 I'm your host Lee, and with me is someone who has some unusual first hand experiences to share 5 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,080 with us from his time as a former officer with the Detroit Michigan police force. 6 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,840 This is former officer Indio from the Detroit 30 division special units. 7 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:44,160 Yes, I was with the 30 series unit in the third precinct in Detroit, Michigan. 8 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:47,920 So officer Indio, can you tell us a little bit about this special unit? 9 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Yes, the special unit has existed ever since the Detroit police has existed. 10 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:01,840 It just changes its name. Back in the 70s, it was called the big four. Prior to that, 11 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:09,200 it was called booster unit. Then the malice screen trial thing happened with butts in the nevers. 12 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,680 Third on the city's southwest side, it was there that at 1030 last night, 13 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:19,040 he was beaten to death according to witnesses by two white police officers of the third precinct's 14 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,640 so-called booster squad. Those officers have been identified as Walter Buttson and Larry Nevers. 15 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:33,440 Then they changed it to 30 series. And now it's called tactical service unit from what I've been 16 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:41,040 told. And so I was during the time when it was called 30 series. And it's a specialized undercover 17 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:52,480 unit, plain on plain, meaning plain police car, plain uniform, a street wear, no badge, 18 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:59,840 nothing showing. And we just handled a lot of interesting calls. High felony calls. 19 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:07,120 When you say supernatural, can you elaborate a little more onto this? And I guess we can maybe 20 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:17,840 start out with your first experience on that, I guess, as a police officer. You obviously, 21 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:24,160 I take it, how did you fall into this department? How did you, were you recruited? Were you, 22 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,560 you know, are you, are you like, did you grow up a religious person? 23 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,880 Religion was in the family, but I was never really going to church and doing communion and 24 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:40,640 doing all the things that a Catholic person would normally do. I believe that there's a God and I 25 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:45,040 believe there was a devil and that's probably as far as my religion went. I joined the police 26 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:53,440 department in 1995. I was assigned to the third precinct because it's mostly Hispanic community. 27 00:02:53,440 --> 00:03:01,440 And when I was assigned to the third precinct unit, I was uniform at the time and I was with a 28 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,240 field training officer who you ride along with for a period of time until they feel that you're 29 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,160 comfortable enough to sort of be set free and deal with the community. 30 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:16,320 Tell us about the first experience, I guess, that led you to joining or knowing about this, 31 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,880 you know, this other world out there that, you know, that happens. 32 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:27,840 I went to a domestic violence run and we were talking to the victim and she was beat up really 33 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,840 bad, but she had scratches and the scratches look weird because they were long gated and they were 34 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:40,960 in threes. It wasn't like a normal human scratch. It was almost like a claw. And then she told us 35 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:48,320 that her boyfriend at the time left on foot. So we went looking for him because we knew he couldn't 36 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:53,680 get too far and we knew the area well and it was just a matter of time before we ran into him. And 37 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,640 after doing a few circles around, we didn't see anything. And then there's a park adjacent to 38 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:04,160 this woman's house and it's called Clark Park. It's on Burner and Clark. And it's pretty long, 39 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:10,880 kind of reminds you of a New York park. And so I was like, we should just go in there and look 40 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:16,160 around and see if he's hiding behind a tree. And so we went in there and we're shining our 41 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,560 spotlights looking around for anybody. And something just kept itching me to look up. 42 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:27,840 And so I looked up, but I also put my spotlight up and that's when we saw the individual on top of 43 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:34,560 a tree. When I say on top of a tree, it's probably the size of a palm tree. And he was peering down, 44 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:41,040 looking down at us. And then when he realized that he was made, he literally leaped off of that thing. 45 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,480 When Kim came crashing down and I'm thinking this guy is dead, or if he's not dead, he's gonna snap 46 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:52,480 both of his legs and nothing, none of that happened. He hit the ground like a cat and then he took 47 00:04:52,480 --> 00:05:00,800 off running. We then pursued him in our Mark police car and we were gunning it. When I mean gunning 48 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,840 it, you could hear the engine just kicking in and we couldn't catch up to this guy for, you know. 49 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:09,440 How fast would you say that your squad car was doing? 50 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,640 Easily 50. 51 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,440 Okay. 52 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:19,280 50 miles an hour and we're hitting dips and taking chunks of grass with us and the wheels 53 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:21,360 are rolling. This guy is still ahead of us. 54 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,200 So you're chasing this guy through a park? 55 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,400 Yeah, through a park. 56 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,440 And this is, you know, he has nothing on Jerry Rice. This guy was moving 57 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,080 faster than I've ever seen anybody move. So I'm like, this is kind of crazy. So I had to look 58 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,880 over to my partner who was driving. Like, are you really hitting the gas? And I could see 59 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,800 this phenomenon going up and we're not catching up to this guy for nothing. 60 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,520 He finally gets to the edge of the park and on the edge of the park, there's a highway called 61 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:59,040 I-75 and that will take you to Toledo, Ohio or up towards Detroit city. And he gets to the 62 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:06,080 edge of that park where the freeway is and it's an eight lane highway. And, you know, four lanes, 63 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:11,840 that way and four lanes come in this way. He gets to the sidewalk and there's this 64 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:20,240 Peter Pan jump and literally clears the fence down to the embankment of the freeway 65 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,480 and then starts running. And we're just done there and we're like, holy shit. 66 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:31,600 And so adjacent to it is a little overpass that goes onto the other side of the freeway. So we 67 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:38,560 took it. We took that path and then we went in the wrong direction on the other side and we see 68 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:44,320 him getting ready to hit the fence. And then my partner just got into the car and probably hit 69 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:51,920 this guy. I'm not even over exaggerating, like 60 miles an hour. Hit him right square center of the 70 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:59,680 car and this guy goes flying about 50 feet, hits the ground, does a whole tumble and I'm thinking, 71 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:06,320 oh, fuck, we just killed this guy. How are we going to explain this? And he didn't die. He was 72 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,880 scratched up a bit, a little bit bleeding from the elbow and knees. And but he started getting up 73 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,520 again. And that's when we sort of jumped on him because when he was rolling around, that gave 74 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,440 us time to sort of exit the car and jump on him. So what was going through your mind at this time 75 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,920 when you, you know, when you guys finally caught up to this guy and apprehended him and, you know, 76 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,360 it was he on, you know, did you think he was on speed, drugs? That ran through my head. I'm 77 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:35,040 thinking this guy's on PCP. It's going to be the fight of our life because I fought with somebody 78 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:42,800 prior that was on PCP and he has this superhuman strength. But I knew that something was off 79 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,240 because the best I could explain it because I was thinking about this was, 80 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,120 have you ever seen an alligator in the water and there's sort of like this 81 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:57,520 this change in his eye that that happened to him and his eyes were just pure black. 82 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,560 And then when I saw that it scared the shit out of me and I'm like, what the hell is this? 83 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,720 And so we started pouncing on him, pouncing them, literally putting our hands on him to get them 84 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,280 under control. And then we cuffed them up and sort of hog tied them and threw them back of the 85 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:21,280 state of the scout car and took them to the precinct for processing. And during that time, 86 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,680 more officers came with us because we thought we he was under PCP. And so when we took him out of 87 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:33,040 the scout car and we finally put him in the cell, he just stood there quietly rocking back and forth. 88 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:40,400 And so I went and did the report and I wrote what happened. I was a little hesitant on certain 89 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,440 things. And I'm like, we literally hit the sky with the car. How do I explain that? But I wrote 90 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,800 it because I'm being a fresh police officer. You don't want to lie. Yeah, you want to tell the truth. 91 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,200 You don't want anything coming back to you with all his injuries. 92 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,680 Yeah. So when I was writing this report, I'm like, yeah, we're going straight to internal affairs. 93 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:06,800 We're in trouble. But I told the truth. And during the time of writing the report, 94 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:12,800 it took me about an hour to write it because there were so many things that had happened. And 95 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,760 the information that you have to put in this report, the whole narrative of what happened. 96 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:30,000 Two men came in and these men were nicely dressed in black, you know, like black suits. And they came 97 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,240 in and I see them from my peripheral and I'm like, who's that? And I started don't pay attention 98 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:41,120 anymore. And then a few minutes go by and I see them take the guy that we just arrested. 99 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:46,880 So in my mind, I'm thinking, oh, shit, internal affairs, this is something's getting ready to 100 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:54,720 happen. So I turn the report to my lieutenant at the time. And he sort of grabs the paper and he 101 00:09:54,720 --> 00:10:02,400 tears it up. And I'm like, did I do something wrong? And he's looked at me dead face and said, 102 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,400 this never happened.