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Hello. We have a live show coming up on Saturday

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the 28th of June at the Accidental Theatre in

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Belfast. Tickets are still available for that

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if you head to accidentaltheatre .co .uk. That's

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accidentaltheatre .co .uk. Or you can find the

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anyway. If you can't make that in person, there

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It's going to be live streamed and it will also

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if that. Is your fancy too? I'm currently outside,

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hence the noise. I am near a river on a walk

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and remembered that I needed to record this to

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put this episode out. We're going to be doing

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a live episode of the podcast, which is very

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exciting, and we're going to have an all -star

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a bunch of new characters, a bunch of returning

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characters. It's really two shows in one because

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we're also going to be doing an improvised musical

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set in the town, the title of which you, the

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audience, will decide. So, I mean, two shows.

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You can watch it in person in Belfast at the

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Accidental Theatre or online, either live streamed

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or at a time of your choosing on demand. It will

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start 8 .30pm BST and I'm pretty sure that's

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all I have to say. Anyway, enjoy your regularly

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scheduled programming. Welcome back to Dumb Bracken.

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Hello, I'd like to make a withdrawal. Yes, can

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I get your name and your date of birth, please?

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Yeah. Just got a slide over a piece of paper

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to you right now. No, just verbally. That says

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that you're about to partake in a robbery. I

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can see. Just in case you can't read. You might

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be wondering what's going on. This isn't my real

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face. What? This is a mask I'm wearing. What

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are you... Don't panic. I'm not panicking. Sounds

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like you're starting to panic. What? If you'll

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read the rest of the paper, it's very clear.

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It says don't panic. Sorry, I've never done this

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before. It's all right. I'm calm. Andy, if you

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want to take your lunch there now. Yes. No, Andy,

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come back. I can help you. Did Andy take a...

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Oh, fuck, he took the paper with him. Right,

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I'm just going to tell you what I read. All right.

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This is a robbery. Oh, God. You might not believe

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it to look at me, but this is not my real face.

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You're part of a robbery now, so... Andy, had

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you given this guy anything yet? No. No, he hadn't.

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Right, okay. But we were making some progress.

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I don't know. Probably had a better chance of

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him, honestly. Oh, no, I believe that, because

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he started panicking almost immediately, and

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I felt like there was a rapport being built.

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Well, yeah. Are you likely to give... Andy's

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a good lad. He's not here long, you know. And

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he's not bad, no. I thought he'd be an easy...

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Right. Do you think... Could I maybe just speak

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to... Could I just maybe speak to the supervisor?

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Oh, yeah. Because you're not going to... No,

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I'm the supervisor on shift at the moment. Oh,

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right, so I'm speaking to the right person anyway.

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Well, relatively. How likely are you to be willing

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to be robbed? What? Not at all. You're not going

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to... Alright, what if I told you that I had...

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Don't look under my coat, because you'll be startled.

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I have a gun under my coat. Okay, so you're telling

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me, but you're not showing me that you have a

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gun. I understand why you're not showing me,

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but that is rookie error, because I know you're

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bluffing. Oh, no, actually, I do. Really, this

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is... I just didn't want to frighten anyone else.

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But I'm going to put it away now. Yeah, good.

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I don't want to frighten anyone. Sorry, madam.

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This won't be about a minute. Yeah, really sorry.

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Sorry for the delay. That's quite all right.

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I hope you don't mind I've been eavesdropping.

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You've been eavesdropping? Oh. You shouldn't

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really be eavesdropping in banks. No, no. It's

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something I should have anticipated. Because

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I'm trying to do this politely. I don't want

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to scare folk. I've been charmed by you. Thank

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you very much. I can't say I have. No, I imagine

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on the receiving end, it's not very pleasant.

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Well, I used a lot more charm on your associate

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there, I think, at the start. So maybe I'm a

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bit weary. I'll say that might be the Ronald

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Reagan mask. What? Ronald Reagan mask. Is that

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who this is? He's a handsome man. Oh, well. And

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you've only been looking at the back of his head

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for a while now. Well, I've seen the front now.

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So I'll just let you all know now. It's gotten

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a bit away from me, but I do... No, no, you've

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got control. No, and I've got a gun here. And

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what a lovely gun. This is a robbery. Anything

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in it? There is. There is bullets in it. And

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I could assemble it and disassemble it like that.

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Like you wouldn't know no one's business. But

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right here. Now, everyone, just stay calm. Don't

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you... Here. You're looking at the door, I see.

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Don't go to the door, all right? I wouldn't want

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to miss a minute. Okay, good. Right, so you're

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all safe. You're not going to come in harm's

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way. But don't test me, because I might have

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to go against what I just said. And I'm a man

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of my own. And I wanted to do this peacefully.

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I had a good rapport with the man. Suddenly,

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switches have changed. He's entitled to his lunch

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break. I'm not saying he isn't entitled to his

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lunch break, but I'm saying this is a robbery,

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and if you don't do it... we might have to all

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resort to things that we didn't want to do. And

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now I'm trying to be very... I've been very good

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about this. You're a lot of waffle. You know,

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you kind of get lost in it a bit. I don't mind

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it. I think there's a certain charm. A bit old

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-fashioned, but I like it. Yeah, it does feel

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like you've done your research through films,

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I want to say. Maybe the Oceans films. No, no,

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there was too many quick cuts to follow that.

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Really? You've got a Clooney charisma. Thank

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you very much. Again, that might be the mask.

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Or it might be the gun. I don't know. So what

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I'm going to tell you now is just, I've got this

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little bag, right? You can all see the gun. Don't

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move anybody. Do you want me to take that for

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you there? The gun? Yeah. No. Good. You're good.

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You'd be good at this. Do you want you take the

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bag there and you see all those denominations?

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Just you just throw them in. Throw them in. Small

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bag. I use what I can get. I can't, you know.

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You're not emptying my tail. Really? Yeah, no,

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no, no, God. Right, I'll bring a second bag next

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time. Well, next time. I can empty my purse with

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you. That would be very much appreciated. I would

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like the cash equivalent. Oh. It's not a gift.

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I will get to you just whenever. Oh, no, I just

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thought I'd help out. Here's what we're going

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to do. This customer? You're all going to take

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off your valuables and this. Nice supervisor

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will give you the cash equivalent of all of your

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valuables. No, sorry. Yes, that's a great idea.

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You'd need to go to a pawn shop for that. I can't

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take anything that isn't just cash or check.

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I'm not asking you, though, because I remembered

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the gun. I know, but that's not how a bank works.

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You've confused us with a pawn shop. Okay, right.

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Well, then, back to the original plan. How quick

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is he at eating lunch? Well, it doesn't matter

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how quick he is at eating it, because he's entitled

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for... Yeah, he's only on half hour today. Okay,

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right. I'm going to come back in, what, half

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an hour? Give or take. Right, I'll come back.

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You know what? There's a lovely coffee place

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around the corner. Would you like to go for a

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coffee? You know what? Yeah, let's do that. Keep

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the mask on. I wasn't going to take it off. All

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right, we'll see you in half an hour. Harry,

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do you know when to do your business here? Oh,

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I was also going to rob this place. Oh, um...

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We could strategize. I'd like to see that. Yeah,

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I think you guys could team up well together.

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It's hard to see you again. That's a bit quick.

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Maybe I could go first next time you can see.

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Yeah, or see how you work it. Yeah. Do you have

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a mask in that bag? Oh, no, no, no. I'm not scared.

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Wow. That's a brave person. Yeah. I think that

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cafe stopped serving food around half one. You're

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right. We better hurry. We'll be back. Will you

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still be on staff from half an hour? Oh, yeah.

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I'm supervisor. That's great. I might not be

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the teller. Andy might be back. Perfect. I'll

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be keeping an eye because obviously you've both

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done me the decency of giving me the heads up.

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It's a decent thing to do. I think so. I don't

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use a gun. I have a picture of your husband.

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Oh. With today's newspaper. Oh. I'm going to

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give him a call. Well, I mean, it's just going

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to ring this phone. Do the lock screen? Yeah.

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That's our dog. Lovely dog. Anyway, food's up

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soon. See you in a bit. All right, see you in

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a bit. Bye. Well, thanks for picking us up. That's

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really, really kind of you. Are you sure you're

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not going out of your way? North? You're going

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north? Yeah, yeah, north anyway, really. Don't

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you worry about that. Cool. You looked awful

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cold by the side of the road there. We felt bad

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if we didn't pick you up. Yeah. Northbound travellers

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are we. That's what we always say, isn't that

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right, darling? That's right. We're from the

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north. Where are you from? Yeah. Oh, I'm just

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travelling on my big year out, so I'm having

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a little travel. I've done Durham. It was really,

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really nice. And then I travelled up to Edinburgh,

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and that was really, really nice as well. So

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I just, you know, travelled everywhere. A bit

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of experience, you know. Oh, with a student?

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With a learned passenger? A student of the world,

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maybe? Perhaps, yeah. Yeah, I would see myself

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as more of a student of the world. I don't really

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believe in education, really. Neither do we.

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That's the funny thing that you'd say. Anyone

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who's educated, they really just don't have really

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our spirit. Would you say that, darling? I'd

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say that, definitely. I mean, he doesn't even

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have a licence to drive this. That's true. I

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don't believe in them. Like an education to drive?

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I don't think so. No, I think it's a very dangerous

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thing. The body will tell you everything you

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need to know about a car. I am so intuitive.

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That's whenever I saw you was on the side of

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the road. Sorry about that. That's okay. He loves

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to swerve. That's just what speaks to him. You've

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got to do what the body tells you to do. That's

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my biggest thing in life, really. I'm so glad

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you used Pikmin. I got a good vibe straight away.

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I saw yous and I thought, that cunt. Just don't

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make a left into this forest, if you don't mind.

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I love nature. What's your spirit animals? It's

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a dog, isn't it? Mine, to be honest, is a sugar

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glider. I just love jumping off things. That's

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what my body says to do. You're always on my

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hand, aren't you? That's right, yeah. That's

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right, you're always jumping up there. Yeah,

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in fact, I'm on his hand right now. Can you see?

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You are so lovely. That's me. I'm just a plain

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dog. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I can see

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that. I can see a primalness coming off you.

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Just a dog. Yay. What animal would you say you

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would... Oh, let's guess. That's a good one.

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Oh, this is my favourite game. Probably an antelope

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or a deer of some kind. Yeah, I'd say something

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that would traditionally be seen as prey. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. Something like that, yeah. Like a

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wee deer. Prancing around, just... Or a rabbit.

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Unaware. Caught in the headlights. Playing dead.

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Do you know, my Chinese horoscope, I am a rabbit.

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I am a rabbit! That's so funny! I'm a snake.

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Oh, that is true. You're really a snake, not

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a sugar glider, isn't that right? At heart, I

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really am a snake. I'm just going to stop here,

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if you don't mind. It's really dark here. I didn't

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think that Forrest would get this. Oh, we're

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here all the time. Such a canopy, such overhead.

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A lot of cover. This is a dark place. Drooms

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they can't see in here. They're the latest thing.

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They are just evil. Yeah. If you just want to

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let loose, if you just want to yell as loud as

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you can, there's no one around. Can I? You can.

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Do you want me to get out and yell? Because I

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think sometimes in the van it can be quite constrained.

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You know what? You just stay in the van. Are

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you sure? Yeah, just stay in the van. We're just

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going to... get out for a wee second. We're just

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going to get out to stretch our legs but you

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just stay in the van for a moment. That's really

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kind of you. That's really kind to give me more

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privacy for show. North you're going, north.

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Are we there yet? Have we finally got there?

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Almost, almost. We're just taking another stop

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so don't you worry about that. Not a problem.

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I've just been having a snooze. That's okay.

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Hello there. Hello. I don't even see you under

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that blanket. Yes, I've been sleeping since I

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believe you picked me up outside of Bastogne

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in France. That was several weeks ago now. Oh,

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we love the French. It's a long trip from France,

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but we do love it. That must be such an interesting

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journey. I've been asleep most of the time, but

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it's been a pleasant journey. Have you managed

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to get your seatbelt undone? It was a bit stuck

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there, wasn't it? You couldn't quite get that

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off. It is actually still on as well. It's still

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stuck, isn't it? It's still there. It's still

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stuck. It's been odd, but, you know, they've

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been passing me the bucket from now on again

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to relieve myself and stopping everything. I

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hope we've been joking about that. You'll be

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loving the bucket too, soon enough. These folks

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are just so kind. Yous are so kind to us. Incredibly

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kind. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

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They've just invited me to scream. Oh, they've

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asked if you'd like to scream. Yeah, I think

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it's some sort of primal therapy. We're back

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at the spot. We're back at the spot. Oh, oh grand.

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The spot. It's odd that we've come the whole

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way round again. We have. It's a couple of times

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we've been. A couple of times. We should have.

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It left you off when you got to Europe. Of course.

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But you know, we've been around again. To be

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fair, very cathartic. Very cathartic. Have you

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had a scream yet? I haven't had a scream. I thought

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I would go outside for a scream, but they're

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just saying, stay in the van, stay in the van.

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Oh, right, right. And have a little scream in

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the van. And have you done your spirit animal

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yet? Well, my Chinese horoscope says that I'm

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a rabbit. Right. But I always thought of myself

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as something a little bit more fierce. Yeah.

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Like a bobcat. Well, you could play around with

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that outside. You could bob around and hiss and

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stuff. I do like a hiss. I have not considered

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myself anything other than what I've been told.

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A horse. A horse? A glorious white horse. And

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I've galloped around outside and I tell you what,

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to have your hooves digging into the ground,

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neighing into the night sky, with no one to hear

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you. I didn't think that horses were a bat at

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night time. It's something you don't think about.

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I think they're always there, yeah. Well, he's

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a dark horse. That's what we said, isn't that

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right? What have I done with my dog mask? Was

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that not... Is it not under the blanket? Oh,

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here it is. Here it is. There you go. There we

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go. Oh, now we'll get started. I'll just put

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my snake mask on. Don't you worry about that.

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And you can start screaming whenever you like.

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That's on you. That's on you. Would you like

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to go first? Either way. May I? Of course, yeah.

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Now, tell me if I do it wrong, guys. Tell me

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if I do it wrong. We'll tell you. Okay. Bit more

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welly than that, love. Go on. That's the stuff.

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Was that good? Well, I liked it. Yeah. You join

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us here today at the Canadian Ranch, which we

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have been reporting on now for the past week

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due to the increase in murders. Horse murders.

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We're going to put it as it is. It's murder.

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It doesn't matter if it's a horse or a human.

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It's murder. I am in complete agreement. I'm

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in shock by how many horse murders I have seen

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in the past two days. We'd like to ask you a

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few questions because you, of course, have been

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top suspect, being the horse whisperer on the

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Canadian farm. Yeah. And how has that made you

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feel? You look... You look pretty offended. I'm

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massively offended. For people to think I could

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look those horses in the eye, one eye at a time,

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because they have eyes on the side of their head

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and sort of hit them in the face until they die

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is crazy to me. I love those horses like they

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were my son. And what do you say to the accusations

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that they were hit from behind? Honestly, it's

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easy to hit a horse. Everyone knows this. It's

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easy to hit a horse. They've got eyes on the

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side of their head and they've got big old bodies.

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It's easy to find a place that they will not

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see and give them a good smack. You seem to know

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a lot about this. Well, it's because I care about

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them. It's because I care about the horses. It's

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totally normal that when you care about something

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so much you look into ways you could murder it.

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You are taking my words out of context. I've

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seen it happen to horses before. and i never

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want to see it again i i just couldn't believe

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how easy it is for people to get away with horse

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murder it's it's awful and i do not appreciate

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being accused of these lovely beasts murders

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and all i can see it wasn't me but i would know

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how to kill a horse if i wanted to that's that's

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great um now what do you say to the accusations

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that size five riding boots were a scene In the

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puddles of blood. Well, let me put it this way.

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Have you ever thought that it's not one of those

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wee jockeys? Of course they've got size 5. Children's

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size 5. This is not a men's shoe. It's not a

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women's shoe. It's a toddler's. And who is the

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size of a toddler? A jockey. I am 6 foot 9. How

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am I going to fit into a size 5 shoe? And what

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do you say to the accusations that you have taught

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your children about murdering horses? My children

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have nothing to do with horse murder. In my house,

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they grew up like siblings. Whenever my children

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ate, my horses ate. At the same time, we had

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them at our dinner table. It's ridiculous and

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it's slander. Um, can you explain the horse burgers

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at lunch today? Listen, sometimes horses die.

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What am I going to do, pay for a casket the size

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of a fucking horse? My children are struggling.

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My children don't have shoes on their feet. And

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you want me to buy a horse casket? I don't think

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so. I don't think so. All I'm going to say is,

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I've got nothing to do with it. I love those

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horses like they were my children. And I've only

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killed one of my children. Why would I kill five

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horses? Sorry, Janice, I just need to... Whilst

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we've been on air here, Mr. and Mrs. Canadian

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have been murdered by a horse. So I don't know.

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Let's cut to a commercial break. Uh, do we rise?

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Do we rise? Do we genuflect? I'm rising. I'm

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genuflecting. All stand! Oh, okay. Clear, clear,

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clear. Rise! After standing? Tiptoes? On our

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toes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the higher, right?

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First position. I'm gonna... Oh, my knees crack.

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Uh, liaise with the opposition, I guess? Do we

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talk now? Is that... Bailiff, is that our cue

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to talk? Bailiff out! Oh, okay. Oh, they just

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sprinted out of the courtroom. I guess we fanned

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for ourselves. I will say it's an atypical court.

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Now, there's three lawyers here. That raises

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some questions in my mind. I'm the lawyer for

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the judge. For the judge? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, no, I'm for the defense.

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Oh, I'm also for the defense. Really? I'm a trainee

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lawyer. I've just been sent here for the day

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to observe. I like my odds. I like my odds. There's

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quite a lot of us. Are we, we're all going for

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the same guy, yeah? Yep, parking ticket. Not

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me, I'm for the judge. I'm just keeping him right.

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I've been interning for a local paper. You need

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to work out who's for the prosecution and who's

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for the defense or all this will really become

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a muck scum before we know where we are. Well,

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I'm definitely for the defense. I think I definitely

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know that I should be on the prosecution. Okay,

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you're prosecution, I'm defense? Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. I'm for guilty, personally, but that's

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just a personal opinion, and I will keep impartial

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until... Hang on, the judge already decided that

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he's guilty? No, I'm just saying that's my personal

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opinion before the judge makes a decree based

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on what the jury decides. The judge will be back

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momentarily. He said he had to go to the toilet,

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but I think he will come back, but maybe while

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he is in the toilet, if you just work out who's

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who. We've worked it out. I was just on the way

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in there. Sorry, I was just on the way in from

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the bathroom myself. The judge is... He's having

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a hard time in there. I don't know how long he's

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going to be, but I'm here to shadow you, actually,

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as the judge's lawyer, so... But maybe if you

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were just in the toilet, you could be the judge

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now, if he's having a... But if we, like, if

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we ranked up, you know, if maybe you wanted to

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just be the judge today, and I could, like, do

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your... No, objection. Objection. She already

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said she wants it guilty, and I... You could

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change your mind. Also, like, I'm on these guys'

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side. Like, you've seen the judge more recently

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than I have, so... I'm happy for you to be acting

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judge. Is everyone else happy for him to be acting

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judge? Affirmative. Yeah, sustained. Great. Okay,

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great. So, hi, my name is Michael. I've come

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up from, just from college for the day. I actually,

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sorry, I'll just sit down. Should we sit down?

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Sorry, I've forgotten that. Oh, you can, yeah,

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yeah. Yeah, it's cool, yeah. I will note down

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that you're all sitting down now. Oh, great,

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yeah. So, I guess I'll just introduce myself.

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Yeah. Just to get us started. I went to college

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maybe 10 years ago, studied architecture. It

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didn't really work out, but my mom, she knew,

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like, a solicitor, said he made good money and

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that maybe I should consider going back to college

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and studying, so I did. And, yeah, I got sent

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up here. This is my first day out. I was supposed

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to shadow, but I guess I'm the judge for the

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day. So I guess let's get rolling. Let's... What's

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it about? All right, so... Your Honor, Michael.

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Can I call you Michael? You can, yeah, man. Objection.

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Judge Michael would look better in the press.

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I guess like... Make a ruling, please. You already

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did a ruling. I, uh... The judge already said

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Michael, and I'm going to insist on Michael now.

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I rule that everyone chill out today, and we'll

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just take it as it comes. Michael it is. That's

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a good attitude. You know who else was chilling

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out behind the wheel? My client. Yeah, sorry,

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I'll just check the notes here. No, don't check

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the notes. I'm pretending you have the facts.

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You shouldn't be reading them. Oh, that's not

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allowed. Sorry, I should ask. Sorry, I'm shadowing

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you. I should be checking the notes or I should

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allow them to tell me first? I'm happy for you

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to do whatever you feel like is right and we

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can follow your lead and gently correct you,

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you know? Okay, for sure, yeah. Oh, I wish I'd

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interned for you. So, I'll tell you what, we'll

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do like an exquisite corpse sort of thing. I'm

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not familiar with that term. I look at one bit

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of it and I'll read it out and then you finish

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it off. And I guess that would be like an inclusive

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and cool thing for everyone here today. So the

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driver was four times over the limit. Apologies,

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Judge Michael. Yeah? Forgive me, but we haven't

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met the jury yet and I think we should just recognise

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the foreperson. How you doing, Michael? Hello.

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How are you, man? Oh, not bad. I haven't seen

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you in years. How have you been at? Judging as

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pose, well done, you. Oh, not really, no. Oh,

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you look really great up there in Kuru Sea. Oh,

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thanks, man. I'm still in my 20s. 28. Clinging

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on, man. Oh, it's hard to see when you hit 30.

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Oh, man. Death is rushing towards you. Now, speaking

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of death coming rushing towards you, all right?

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I'm here for you. Yeah. It's a tough thing. Some

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of us had quarter -life crisis and do rash actions,

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and I don't think we should be judged for that.

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Oh, preach, brother. Thank you. Maybe not, you

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know. I guess we have the jury here to help us

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as well, but today it all comes down to Michael,

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and it's been a long time since the sort of decisions

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have been in my hands. So he was four times over

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the legal limit, and how many people were in

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the collision? In the collision? Yes. Well...

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It depends how you define collision. At the moment

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of the collision or imminently after the collision.

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Imminently after the collision, it was just my

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client. In a 1998 edition of this newspaper,

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a collision was defined by my boss as the moment

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of impact. Now, I know I'm trying to be chill

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here. I'm trying to be chill here. But I feel

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like the reporter shouldn't talk as much during

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the courtroom. Oh, no. Maybe he's right, though.

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This reporter seems to be doing a lot more work

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than I... I got confused at the beginning. I

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thought it was defense, but, like, I mean, this

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reporter seems to have really taken over my job.

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I feel like if you've prepared defense arguments,

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you should present them. I prepared certain arguments.

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Well, I think we should just hear them. Just

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what he would hypothetically have said. Defendant

00:24:41.500 --> 00:24:44.640
seemed like a really chill guy. Right? Defendant,

00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.500
yeah. Defendant really just wasn't sure what

00:24:48.500 --> 00:24:51.579
was going on, like, the law. As if in that area.

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But as a prosecution, I would say that, like,

00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:57.759
actually, that's not a great defense. Michael,

00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:01.440
you've been studying law for how long now? Like,

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at least, I think, maybe five weeks, something

00:25:03.819 --> 00:25:05.579
like that. It's confusing, isn't it? So far,

00:25:05.660 --> 00:25:08.000
yeah. It's tough. It's tough to know what's right,

00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:09.559
what's wrong. Objection. Objection. Leading the

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judge. Everyone's been great, though, I have

00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:14.099
to say. You guys all seem super cool. You know

00:25:14.099 --> 00:25:17.039
who else is super cool? My client. He's a very

00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.460
supportive man, and the community would be worse

00:25:19.460 --> 00:25:21.970
without him. For sure. And I did notice here

00:25:21.970 --> 00:25:23.750
as well that the collision happened while he

00:25:23.750 --> 00:25:27.809
was parking. Yeah. So this was just in a car

00:25:27.809 --> 00:25:32.970
park, moving in. Yeah. And he's never had any

00:25:32.970 --> 00:25:35.609
charges before. This is the first offence. He

00:25:35.609 --> 00:25:38.849
was parking at the time, yeah. How do you feel

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about this so far? How are we all doing, really?

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You're here to keep an eye on the judge and his

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judging. As a judge, I think you're doing perfectly

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well, I still think. Ultimately, your verdict

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will be guilty. Probably. So if you want to speed

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things up and, you know, be out of here before

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3pm, maybe? We do those off the foreman. Judge

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Michael, the 1998 edition of the paper that I

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referred to earlier, and perhaps it might be

00:26:06.099 --> 00:26:09.619
pertinent to this case, someone was also asking

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at what speed the impact happened. I really appreciate

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that you've got to terms with... where and the

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location and the context, but I think perhaps

00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:25.000
more contextualization would be pertinent to

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the case. I would be interested in that sort

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of thing, but I'd also love to know, like, what

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color was the car? Okay, I can answer both these

00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:36.240
questions. So, again, my guy, chill guy, cool,

00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:40.440
red with flame decals. Red? Yeah, and he's very

00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:42.960
safety conscious, so you know how when you reverse

00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:45.160
you have a blind spot? He made sure... I can't

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drive. Can you not? It's difficult, isn't it?

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But when you reverse, there's a bit of a blind

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spot. So he made sure to spend as little time

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reversing as possible. And the way you do that

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is you drive as fast as you can. So yes, he was

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reversing at 106 miles per hour. And I suppose

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that's a reasonable speed. The prosecution rests.

00:27:18.859 --> 00:27:23.579
Judge Saunders, I'm an intern reporter, but I

00:27:23.579 --> 00:27:28.799
have much Netflix knowledge of cases like these.

00:27:28.980 --> 00:27:31.779
Well, you probably don't know what I mean by

00:27:31.779 --> 00:27:33.640
that, because unfortunately you seem to have

00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:36.720
missed that case by being in the toilet for quite

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some time. Can I ask you, well, we heard that

00:27:40.500 --> 00:27:43.619
you were having what was quoted as a difficult

00:27:43.619 --> 00:27:49.099
time in there. Can you speak to that? I fully

00:27:49.099 --> 00:27:52.000
commend the amount of enthusiasm you're bringing

00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.259
to your role here. You're doing a wonderful job.

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Now, I did recently visit a new restaurant in

00:27:58.140 --> 00:28:01.700
town. Now, I'm not going to go into the details,

00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:05.019
but there's some judicial rumblings happening

00:28:05.019 --> 00:28:11.480
within my body, if I'm perfectly honest. And,

00:28:11.539 --> 00:28:15.970
you know, it's not really... the decorum that

00:28:15.970 --> 00:28:17.829
I would expect from my court. So I don't really

00:28:17.829 --> 00:28:20.930
want to go into it very much. But let's just

00:28:20.930 --> 00:28:25.230
say it's under control for now. Judge Saunders,

00:28:25.329 --> 00:28:28.509
with respect, you are talking like a politician.

00:28:28.950 --> 00:28:31.529
Could you say that again, please? Yes. With respect,

00:28:31.630 --> 00:28:33.650
Judge Saunders, you are talking like a politician.

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And that means that my question has actually

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not received an answer. So I really have to push

00:28:42.109 --> 00:28:45.900
you further about what... happened within the

00:28:45.900 --> 00:28:51.019
bathroom that withstalled you from taking your

00:28:51.019 --> 00:28:54.640
seat within this case, leading it to be judged

00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:58.960
by a, as I'll print tomorrow, an amateur Judge

00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.839
Saunders. Now, as we all know, we all eat meals.

00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.680
Now, people eat meals every single day. They

00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:06.920
eat small meals, they eat big meals. There's

00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:08.519
all sorts of food that goes in and out of people's

00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.940
bodies in this town. Now, I can't speak to what

00:29:11.940 --> 00:29:14.740
I ate earlier today. I can't speak to what I'm

00:29:14.740 --> 00:29:16.819
going to eat tomorrow. There are a lot of variables

00:29:16.819 --> 00:29:20.779
at play here. Now, when we speak to the people

00:29:20.779 --> 00:29:22.259
of the town, I'm sure they'll give you a similar

00:29:22.259 --> 00:29:25.319
answer. People do not know what they ate. Who

00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.440
knows? What did you eat yesterday? Do you know

00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.400
what you ate yesterday? Yes, I do, Judge Saunders.

00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.180
Every Thursday, my mum cooks a korma, so I had

00:29:33.180 --> 00:29:36.880
a korma. With respect, Judge Saunders, I cannot

00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.940
take any more of this equivocation. If I print

00:29:39.940 --> 00:29:42.880
that you had diarrhea, will I be slandering you?

00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:47.220
No, no, no. I will not comment on the solidity

00:29:47.220 --> 00:29:50.960
of my bowel movements. But you were in fact having

00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.079
a bowel movement, Judge Saunders. I did not say

00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:57.059
that. I did not say that. With greatest respect,

00:29:57.200 --> 00:29:59.140
Judge Saunders, you haven't said very much at

00:29:59.140 --> 00:30:04.660
all. Well, no, I challenge you to eat in the

00:30:04.660 --> 00:30:08.549
faculty cafeteria. here in the courthouse. And

00:30:08.549 --> 00:30:12.250
I will see how you feel the next day. With respect,

00:30:12.369 --> 00:30:15.589
Judge, my mum made me a packed lunch because

00:30:15.589 --> 00:30:20.109
the faculty cafeteria is somewhat pricey. She

00:30:20.109 --> 00:30:24.509
made me tuna sandwiches on wholemeal hoobus.

00:30:24.650 --> 00:30:26.470
They were having a sale at Tesco. If I'm not

00:30:26.470 --> 00:30:27.869
misunderstood, the program you're on, you can

00:30:27.869 --> 00:30:29.650
expense that back. You should keep your receipts.

00:30:29.890 --> 00:30:32.430
Oh, no, sir. I'm just on an internship. Everything

00:30:32.430 --> 00:30:36.200
is my expenses. Oh, no, no. No, no, no, I support

00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.359
the internship. Absolutely. Wholeheartedly. I

00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.059
actually give about 3 .6 % of my pay packet to

00:30:42.059 --> 00:30:44.839
cover food and transport for people like yourself.

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So I don't see why you're coming in here asking

00:30:47.220 --> 00:30:50.759
me all these questions. Judge Saunders looked

00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:53.720
thoughtfully into the distance with his handsome

00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:56.920
eyebrows. Who are you talking to? I'm just making

00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.019
notes, Judge Saunders. To who? That wee fellow

00:31:00.019 --> 00:31:03.930
over there? My dictaphone, Judge Saunders. I

00:31:03.930 --> 00:31:06.349
don't really want to be part of this. I'm just

00:31:06.349 --> 00:31:08.009
trying to go to the toilet. Could you just leave

00:31:08.009 --> 00:31:10.349
the toilet? Why do you let Don call you a dictaphone?

00:31:11.069 --> 00:31:15.049
He's just in the queue, Judge Saunders. Your

00:31:15.049 --> 00:31:17.329
eyes are straying. I don't know why you're looking

00:31:17.329 --> 00:31:19.289
at him and not at me. He's just in the queue

00:31:19.289 --> 00:31:23.029
for the bathroom, which is quite congested since

00:31:23.029 --> 00:31:25.089
you took... He's holding a wee Zoom recorder

00:31:25.089 --> 00:31:27.789
up to his mouth. I can see it. This is just for

00:31:27.789 --> 00:31:30.029
my own personal project. It's called Bathroom

00:31:30.029 --> 00:31:32.470
Chats. It's a podcast. I don't know. It's a rival

00:31:32.470 --> 00:31:35.730
to the other. We do have a podcast. I'm going

00:31:35.730 --> 00:31:37.950
to be doing that on the second week of my internship.

00:31:38.410 --> 00:31:40.910
Look, I listen to both. I've got my finger on

00:31:40.910 --> 00:31:43.650
the pulse. But for now, Judge Saunders, may I

00:31:43.650 --> 00:31:48.089
print that you did suffer some trouble within

00:31:48.089 --> 00:31:50.450
the bathroom, but that you handsomely looked

00:31:50.450 --> 00:31:54.109
into the distance. You may print that I may or

00:31:54.109 --> 00:31:57.640
may not have handsomely, handsomely... That was

00:31:57.640 --> 00:31:59.960
my word, Judge Saunders, absolutely. He pays

00:31:59.960 --> 00:32:06.319
3 .5 % of my bill. Handsomely had a bowel movement

00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:10.839
of variable degrees of solidity. And that's all

00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:13.319
you can print. I'm keeping up appearances here.

00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.279
Your appearances will be upheld. Judge Saunders,

00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:20.339
I thank you for your time and your clarity of

00:32:20.339 --> 00:32:22.460
answers to my questions. You're very welcome.

00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:26.339
May the print media live forever. Huzzah! Huzzah!

00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.059
Thank you for listening to episode 55. And a

00:32:39.059 --> 00:32:40.660
reminder that tickets are still available for

00:32:40.660 --> 00:32:43.680
the live show on Saturday the 28th of June at

00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.359
the Accidental Theatre in Belfast. In person,

00:32:46.460 --> 00:32:50.339
live streamed and on demand. We got it all. We

00:32:50.339 --> 00:32:52.960
have an absolute killer set of guests lined up

00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:54.740
for that show, including many who featured in

00:32:54.740 --> 00:33:14.139
today's episode. And they were as follows. Thank

00:33:14.139 --> 00:33:18.500
you for listening. We look forward to welcoming

00:33:18.500 --> 00:33:20.200
you back to Dunbracken very soon.
