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Welcome to ECB's weekly sermon podcast. ECB is

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an international church in Bangkok, Thailand,

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with dozens of nationalities worshiping together.

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We invite you to connect with us from wherever

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you are through our website, ecb .asia, or our

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mobile app. And now we pray that you are blessed

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by this week's sermon. As a space that is very

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intimate and very close as if we are sitting

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across each other sharing a cup of coffee. And

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we are having a conversation about, so how are

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you doing? How was your summer? What do you do?

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What is the Lord teaching you? Where are you

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at? I want to take this time to share some reflections.

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As we're walking with the Lord in this season,

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especially as we're coming out of this stage

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of traveling and all the things that happen.

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And it doesn't matter whether you don't drink

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coffee. That's okay. You can pick another drink

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if you want. But my cup is going to be dark,

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strong coffee, no sugar. And as we reflect, today

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what I want... you to get and to remember is

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simply this. Don't lose your perspective. And

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what do I mean by perspective? See, during this

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time, we went to the US, the state of Texas,

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we were there, and then we went to Kansas for

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the sole purpose of leading the burial and the

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memorial service for my mother -in -law, who

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passed away in April, 95 years of age, widow,

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former missionary here in Thailand. Then we moved

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to Guatemala for maybe 10 days or so to spend

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time with my parents, whom I hadn't seen for

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over two years, to celebrate the 60th anniversary.

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Who would have imagined that? And then we came

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back to Thailand for one day and then we flew

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to England to spend time in London and Oxford

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with the ACB team that took the trip with our

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class on apologetics crossroads. And then we

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just came back this week. It's like very intense

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time. And in these spaces, this idea of perspective

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has become more and more intense. Because we

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can follow God and lose our perspective and then

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everything becomes misaligned. But when we follow

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Christ and we follow him with the right perspective,

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everything changes. And it is very important.

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That as we are walking with the Lord, we do not

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lose the right perspective. Let me put it this

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way. I'm going to show you three pictures. And

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I want you to pick the one you identify with

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the most. No particular reason. Just pick one.

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Done? Okay. So if I were to ask the prophet Isaiah.

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Pick one of these three. Which one do you identify

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the most with? He will pick this one. He's like,

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what? Grass? I didn't imagine that. What are

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you, like, spiky hair or something? Why grass?

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He says, oh, let me tell you why. All people

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are like grass, says the prophet. Faithfulness

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is like the flowers of the field. The grass withers

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and the flowers fall because the breath of the

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Lord blows on them. Surely the people are grass.

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The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the

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word of our God endures forever. Pablo, you're

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grass. You are here today, you will be gone tomorrow.

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Don't forget that. Don't forget that you are

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just passing by and that this life is not it.

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This is part of the experience of being a human.

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But life is more than this. And one day, the

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grave is coming. And I started the trip with

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the realization that my mother -in -law is gone,

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Charlotte. And to see, realize that now she's

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in this thing and we're going to bury her and

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enter into her home and she's not there anymore

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and the absence being so present. And then we

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conclude the trip going to... England and we

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visited a couple of places and we started in

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London. We went to the British Library to talk

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about the Bible and the text. And we went to

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the British Museum and we talked about the history

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and archaeology and all of that. And we visited

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a couple of churches and then we went to Oxford

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to also talk about C .S. Lewis and and his life,

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and understand all of that stuff. And we went

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to Darwin's home in London to talk about Darwinian

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evolution. And we had lectures with scientists

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on the fallacies of evolution based on science.

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And it was really a very intense trip. But there's

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something very unique about visiting England

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and going to the Church of England or the Anglican

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churches. And that is something that you do not

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see here. If you have been shaped in your Christian

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experience by the average evangelical experience,

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which is kind of like coming to ECB today to

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worship, you see people, then you go home. It's

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not like that. Let me show you this picture.

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What do you see? Well, you see a cemetery, right?

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You see a graveyard. Well, this is the entrance

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to the church. Can you imagine driving here into

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ECB and the first thing you see is like all these

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dead people places, you know. And then you walk

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into the church to worship. It's like death is

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right there on your face. And this place is not

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just any church. This is the church that C .S.

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Lewis attended and this is the place where he

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is buried. A little bit more about that later

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today. We also visited Christ Church College

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and Christ Church Chapel. And as you came there,

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it's the same thing. Same thing. It's that you

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have people that have died. Some of them are

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buried inside. And some others are not buried

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inside, but there's these places. dedicated for

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them to honor their lives because they studied

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there or they contributed to society in a meaningful

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way. And two, very meaningful people there, or

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actually I should say three, famous philosopher

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John Locke. That's right here. Right there. Imagine

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you are sitting on your chair and you are stepping

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on the tomb of somebody or a plaque of somebody

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or something that reminds you that, They lived

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here and now they're dead. And the other one

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was John Wesley and Charles Wesley. John Wesley

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was the founder of the Methodist Church. That's

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where he studied. And once again, inside the

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church, you have all these places that are reminding

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you, you are just grass. You are here today and

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gone tomorrow. And when Jesus talked about that,

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he asked a very poignant question to all of us.

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And he says, look, if any of you wants to be

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my follower, you must give up your own way, take

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up your cross and follow me. If you try to hang

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on to your life, you will lose it. But if you

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give up your life for my sake, you will save

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it. And then he says, really, think about it.

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What do you benefit? If you gain the whole world,

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but you lose your own soul. In fact, is anything

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worth more than your soul? And he gets to the

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core to remind us that we are these spiritual

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beings. We have these bodies that are part of

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being a human, but one day this body will be

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in the grave, will become dust, and our soul

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will continue. And then we'll just await our

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glorification of our bodies and the final resurrection.

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This is our future. This is what's going to happen,

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and that's why Jesus says at the end of this

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section, For the Son of Man will come with his

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angels in the glory of his Father and will judge

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all people according to their deeds. So don't

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lose your perspective. If you are going to follow

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me, the only way to follow me well is by having

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eternal perspective. Remember that you are grass,

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that you are here today, gone tomorrow, and because

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that's the reality, make sure that you are living.

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With eternal perspective. And what does this

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look like is very specific. What does it look

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like to follow Jesus with eternal perspective?

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First thing is that to follow Jesus with eternal

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perspective is a life that is characterized by

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prioritizing God. God is the highest priority,

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is the most important thing. And there's such

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an awareness that we belong to him and that we

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are accountable to him that everything we do,

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even the most private spaces and the deepest

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motives of our heart that only you are aware

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of are always under that awareness. And this

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is very important because as we are living life,

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We are so busy with everything and all the things

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that we have to do. But when we forget that this

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is temporary, then we think that this life is

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all there is. And therefore, it matters more

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than it really does. And when we start having

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that wrong perspective, we become fearful and

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controlling. And when we become controlling,

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we have really lost our perspective. There was

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a guy that was very famous. He had succeeded

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in his life. He had all the money he could have.

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He had all the women that he could ever have.

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He had all the fame he could ever dream of. He

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had all the power to do everything he wanted.

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You know his name? Solomon. King Solomon. And

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at the end of his life, after he pursued every

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single thing he could pursue in his life, he

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wrote this book, Ecclesiastes, which is in the

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Old Testament. And at the very end of the book,

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after he has said everything, he says, you know

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what I realize? This is what matters most. Now

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all has been heard. I've written everything already,

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so let me conclude like this. Here is the conclusion

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of the matter. Fear God and keep his commandments

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for this is the duty of all mankind. Fear the

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Lord and obey him. Simple. Why? Well, because

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you are accountable to him and one day you will

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give an account to him. Jesus said it. And Solomon,

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after he had done all the things he did, which

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some of them were not good, now he realizes,

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oops, now that I've tasted this and that and

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this and that, I realize that all of that is

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worthless. Because the only thing that matters

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most is God. And he says at the end, for God

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will bring every deed into judgment, including

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every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.

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As we are following the Lord, I realize in this

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time of reflection that what matters most is

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God. And us being honest to Him. Because when

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we're honest to Him, and that flows in how we

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follow the Lord and the things we do, things

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are different. The deepest motives of the heart

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are brought to the light. Because one day truth,

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truth will reign. And one day you will be seen

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for what you truly were and not for what you

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pretended to be. So as we serve the Lord together

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and as we follow him together, this matters.

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If I had my phone here with you and we were across

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the table from each other, I would be showing

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you the pictures, you know. Look at this one

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and you will show me some and I'll show you another

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one. Well, I cannot show you my phone, but I

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can show you better than the phone, the screen

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here. When we arrived to the town of Chanute,

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which is the town in Kansas where my in -laws

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came from, that's where they are buried. In order

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to do the burial service, we first met at a church,

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a small church that was right there in the town,

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and they opened their place for us to be able

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to host all the guests and the family and the

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friends that gathered. And as I was walking in

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the building, I noticed the meeting room, the

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boardroom, where the elders or leaders of the

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church would meet. And I saw something that was

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written on the wall, and I thought, I need to

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take a picture of this. Because it captures this

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in essence. Now, this is very informal English

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that Americans can understand. But it says, if

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it ain't kingdom, it ain't worth it. If this

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is not for God, it's not worth it. If it's not

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born from him and for him, you're wasting your

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time. Why waste your time in pursuing things

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that you know God is not in? Why try to push

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your agenda instead of serving God's? Don't lose

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your perspective. If you are single, if you are

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young, the world is telling you that you need

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to live for you to be happy. Pursue who you truly

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are. Follow your feelings. Follow your heart.

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And God says, no, that's not true. Do not follow

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your feelings. Do not follow your heart because

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you are a sinner and you have a sinful heart.

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And things that you desire that are contrary

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to me are not going to lead you to a good place.

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Do not buy the lie. Do not lose your perspective.

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If it's not for me or from me, you're going to

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waste your time. Don't go that route. Have you

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lost your perspective? And suddenly God is no

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longer the priority? But you are? Yeah, it gets

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personal, doesn't it? These are things that the

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Lord uses to remind you of what is foundational.

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So yeah, if we're going to follow Jesus with

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eternal perspective, we must follow him by making

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God and the awareness of God in every space of

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our lives the priority. And if God is a priority,

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the second thing follows. Is that we are following

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God with eternal perspective. Then we prioritize

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people. And I'll tell you why. If my soul matters

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so much to God. Hey, those people are also a

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soul. And they matter to God that much too. In

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fact, God loves them so much that he sent Jesus

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to die for them. And if I love God so much, then

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I'm going to love people too because he loves

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them. And that love and that care for people

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comes not from them being lovable or from me

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being a nice person. It comes from this connection

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with God where I start loving what God loves

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because I love God first. And it flows. And this.

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Means that if we are serving God. We are living

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our lives. Following God with eternal perspective.

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The way that our lives are going to be characterized.

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As is by being people who love people. Let me

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show you another picture. This is my in -laws.

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Dick and Charlotte Worley. Right now. They're

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with the Lord. And many years ago, the Lord led

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them here to Thailand to work as missionaries

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here. They work with an organization called American

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Baptists. They were part of a church called Matrachet

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Baptist Church here in Bangkok. And they started

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a school here in Thailand called Samuk Christian

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Academy. And they invested decades of their lives

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for that, the Thais and loving the Thai people.

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And I noticed a couple of things now when we

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did the funeral and the memorial. In those moments,

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we always give people the opportunity to share,

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share a memory, share a word of encouragement,

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anything. And you know what I've noticed in all

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the funerals that I've led in my pastoral ministry?

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I never heard somebody say something like, oh,

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yeah, she dressed so nicely. Or, oh, he had a

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nice car. Their house was beautiful. No one ever

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says things like that at a funeral. You know

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what they say? They say things like, you know

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what? One time I needed help, and he showed up

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to help me. Oh, you know, one time I was going

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through some struggles and no one really cared,

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but she listened to me. And she changed her plans

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to make me a priority. You know what people say?

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People say, this person loved me. And that is

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what they remember. And that is what they celebrate

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because that is what matters most. And in 2017,

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when my father -in -law, Dick, was diagnosed

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already with cancer, they were coming here to

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celebrate an anniversary with Maitre Chit. And

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we thought, you know what? We do not know if

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this is the last time we can take a trip together

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or not. So we decided, let's just go. So we came

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to Thailand in 2017. By the way, that's the first

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time I stopped by ECB and I came to know ECB.

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Without realizing that God would call me several

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years later to lead the ministry here. But at

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that time, I noticed something. It was very interesting

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with my in -laws. Everybody just loved them.

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And they were just spending time with them. You

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could see the attitude of gratitude. And I could

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see it. When my mother -in -law died. Here in

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Thailand, they did a memorial service. It was

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beautiful. Even though she wasn't here, her body

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wasn't here, she died in the U .S. What church

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does that? Only a place that has been impacted

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by love and laughs back. It was a very meaningful

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time for the family. But the testimonies were

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all about this. They loved me. When I was a kid,

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they loved me. She was like a mother to me. He

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was like a father to me. They loved me. And what

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is interesting is that the Bible talks about

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this very clearly. In fact, when the Bible is

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going to quote Prophet Isaiah, it's going to

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quote Isaiah, you know, this imagery of being

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grass. He's going to, the Apostle Peter is going

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to quote this in the context of this. It's like,

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look, remember you are grass, so go and love

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people. Remember you are here temporarily, so

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people matter most. He's going to say that. And

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this is how he says it. Now that you have been

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purified yourselves by obeying the truth, so

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that you have sincere love for each other, and

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love one another deeply from the heart. For you

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have been born again. Not of perishable seed

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but of imperishable. Through the living and enduring

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word of God. Love people because now you have

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a new nature in you. The love that you need is

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not born from you. It's born in God through you.

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Because now that you are following Christ, if

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you are a follower of Jesus, he's your savior,

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you have the Holy Spirit in you. And now that

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you have the Holy Spirit in you, the fruit of

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the Spirit is what? Love, joy, peace, and all

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of these things from him. So love people deeply

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because you are born again. You have what it

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takes. And then he says this. Can you read it

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with me out loud? For all people are like grass.

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And all their glory is like the flowers of the

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field. The grass withers and the flowers fall.

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But the word of the Lord endures forever. And

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this is the word that was preached to you. Don't

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forget. You are grass. Here today. gone tomorrow.

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Therefore, love people. And you know, for those

00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:56.819
of us who are in leadership, this matters so

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much because when you are leading, whether you

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are leading a team or an organization, leading

00:26:02.740 --> 00:26:05.500
is about mobilizing people to accomplish certain

00:26:05.500 --> 00:26:08.279
things. So you have due dates, you have projects

00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:10.680
that need to happen, you have plans that need

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to be accomplished, and the emphasis can become

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so much in the doing that needs to happen and

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the numbers and the things, the next thing and

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then the next thing, that we forget that the

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accomplishing is not the most important thing,

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but is the loving of the people that we are leading

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in order to accomplish the things. And if you

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are entrusted by God, With the gift of leadership

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and the position to lead people, whether it be

00:26:45.990 --> 00:26:48.250
in your company, whether it be in your ministry,

00:26:48.549 --> 00:26:53.990
whether it be at home. Remember that these people

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that the Lord has placed under your leadership

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have one primary need and that is to be loved.

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And if you lose your perspective, rather than

00:27:05.670 --> 00:27:08.789
loving them as you lead them, you are going to

00:27:08.789 --> 00:27:12.329
be annoyed by them as you lead them. And they're

00:27:12.329 --> 00:27:14.569
going to not feel loved, but they're going to

00:27:14.569 --> 00:27:19.789
feel your annoyance. And you have lost your perspective.

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So are we loving the people? Or we have lost

00:27:31.019 --> 00:27:34.400
our perspective and make things or accomplishments

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or goals more important. I remember a professor

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that would tell us, his name was Howard Hendricks

00:27:42.460 --> 00:27:45.460
at Dallas Theological Seminary. He would tell

00:27:45.460 --> 00:27:49.299
us, students, you have to remember, people don't

00:27:49.299 --> 00:27:52.940
care what you know until they know that you care.

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That's easy to remember, right? People don't

00:27:59.150 --> 00:28:02.170
care what you know until they know that you care.

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And that's it. God is my priority. Make loving

00:28:14.569 --> 00:28:20.130
people your priority. And then from that, what

00:28:20.130 --> 00:28:23.109
follows is this. If we're going to live with

00:28:23.109 --> 00:28:26.349
eternal perspective, We're going to prioritize

00:28:26.349 --> 00:28:33.349
serving God. We realize that who we are is not

00:28:33.349 --> 00:28:36.650
an accident. I'm not here just because of the

00:28:36.650 --> 00:28:39.990
will of people. I'm here because God created

00:28:39.990 --> 00:28:43.990
me. He designed me. He gave me gifts and abilities.

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And he didn't give me some gifts and some abilities

00:28:47.589 --> 00:28:51.210
that I don't have. And that's good. I'm good

00:28:51.210 --> 00:28:53.369
for something and I'm not good for some others.

00:28:53.869 --> 00:28:57.170
And that's fine. But God entrusted me the things

00:28:57.170 --> 00:28:59.529
that I'm good at and the passions and the gifts

00:28:59.529 --> 00:29:05.490
so that I can use them for his purposes. And

00:29:05.490 --> 00:29:08.910
therefore, if there's anything that I have that

00:29:08.910 --> 00:29:13.869
he has given me, even if it's insignificant in

00:29:13.869 --> 00:29:19.690
my eyes, is an area that God means for me to

00:29:19.690 --> 00:29:26.519
invest for his kingdom. And this was beautiful

00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:32.579
to see as we were with our group from ECB visiting

00:29:32.579 --> 00:29:35.980
Oxford and we went to C .S. Lewis' home and then

00:29:35.980 --> 00:29:41.920
we went to his church and graveyard. If you do

00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:47.599
not know who C .S. Lewis is, let me just give

00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:52.480
you a short description. He was a man who lived

00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:58.490
in England. who was an atheist. He was in the

00:29:58.490 --> 00:30:00.970
academics, he taught at Cambridge, then he taught

00:30:00.970 --> 00:30:07.089
at Oxford, at Magdalen College. And then, as

00:30:07.089 --> 00:30:11.250
an adult, he became a follower of Jesus. And

00:30:11.250 --> 00:30:13.349
the process from being an atheist to becoming

00:30:13.349 --> 00:30:16.450
a follower of Jesus was a process in which he

00:30:16.450 --> 00:30:20.549
had to wrestle with what was really true. And

00:30:20.549 --> 00:30:22.849
because he was an intellectual, a lot of his

00:30:22.849 --> 00:30:27.440
wrestling was about ideas and concepts and the

00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:31.700
logic of things. So later when he became a Christian,

00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:35.700
he started engaging with people and discussions

00:30:35.700 --> 00:30:38.019
and things. And from that, he had the opportunity

00:30:38.019 --> 00:30:42.099
to do some radio programs talking about why Christianity

00:30:42.099 --> 00:30:46.380
was a reasonable faith, why it was true. And

00:30:46.380 --> 00:30:49.279
from those programs, then he started writing

00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:51.680
and he wrote a book. called Mere Christianity,

00:30:51.980 --> 00:30:54.500
which was a summary of some of his talks. And

00:30:54.500 --> 00:30:56.759
that book became very famous because in that

00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:59.660
book, Mere Christianity, he was able to summarize

00:30:59.660 --> 00:31:02.200
common questions that people had about, well,

00:31:02.259 --> 00:31:04.279
but what about this and what about that? That

00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:06.680
doesn't make sense. And he was able to give a

00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:10.079
logical explanation for every single thing in

00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:14.420
a way that was very gifted. And not only that,

00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:20.440
he loved writing. And he had a gift for creativity,

00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:24.859
so he became a prolific writer. If you watch

00:31:24.859 --> 00:31:27.480
or your kids watch the movie, The Chronicles

00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:31.160
of Narnia, well, that's actually a series of

00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:33.640
books. And those books were written by C .S.

00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.559
Lewis. And they are a metaphor of Christianity.

00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.319
The lion that dies and gives his life for the

00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.299
kid, that's a metaphor for Jesus. And he's using

00:31:47.299 --> 00:31:52.599
all this creative writing as a way of portraying

00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.500
Christian truths. And they became famous and

00:31:56.500 --> 00:32:02.460
they became movies. But he loved writing. And

00:32:02.460 --> 00:32:05.299
we went to his house. We were able to sit at

00:32:05.299 --> 00:32:07.940
one of his desks and took pictures like C .S.

00:32:07.940 --> 00:32:10.460
Lewis, you know, with the things he smokes, you

00:32:10.460 --> 00:32:13.599
know, and all this stuff that he had. It was

00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:18.309
funny. But we learned that actually he had written

00:32:18.309 --> 00:32:21.509
so many letters that there were a whole collection.

00:32:21.509 --> 00:32:24.670
Now you can have the book published with a collection

00:32:24.670 --> 00:32:29.390
of his letters. He took time to answer people

00:32:29.390 --> 00:32:32.490
that he did not know. This is before internet,

00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:36.230
before emails. And he will write these letters

00:32:36.230 --> 00:32:39.029
and he will send them to people. And when a person

00:32:39.029 --> 00:32:42.329
receives the letter from a guy that took the

00:32:42.329 --> 00:32:46.210
time to answer, they treasure those. And they

00:32:46.210 --> 00:32:49.730
kept them. And before they even could realize,

00:32:50.109 --> 00:32:52.890
those became a collection, and then they became

00:32:52.890 --> 00:33:00.750
a book. That gift for writing. Hey, you're good

00:33:00.750 --> 00:33:04.970
at writing. Yeah, I mean, well, it's not a big

00:33:04.970 --> 00:33:08.049
thing. It's not, you know, there are other gifts

00:33:08.049 --> 00:33:10.549
that are better, but writing? What can writing

00:33:10.549 --> 00:33:14.109
do? Hey, you got a major in English. Yeah, English,

00:33:14.250 --> 00:33:18.220
but what? What could that do? Do you realize

00:33:18.220 --> 00:33:25.420
that when God gives you a gift, there's no gift

00:33:25.420 --> 00:33:32.460
that you have that is insignificant? God can

00:33:32.460 --> 00:33:36.980
use anything that you offer him and he will take

00:33:36.980 --> 00:33:40.480
it and make an impact that you could never ever

00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:46.609
imagine. But when you start realizing that everything

00:33:46.609 --> 00:33:49.490
that you are, everything that you have is for

00:33:49.490 --> 00:33:52.410
him, for his purpose, so you just start doing

00:33:52.410 --> 00:33:57.410
it. Suddenly, your life takes a whole different

00:33:57.410 --> 00:34:01.029
direction. And that's what happened to C .S.

00:34:01.029 --> 00:34:05.470
Lewis. He was just an ordinary guy. He grew up

00:34:05.470 --> 00:34:08.349
in a home where his mother died when he was a

00:34:08.349 --> 00:34:11.630
kid. He only had a brother. Then his relationship

00:34:11.630 --> 00:34:14.030
with his father was not good. It was emotionally

00:34:14.030 --> 00:34:18.130
distant. He wasn't going to school. So he was

00:34:18.130 --> 00:34:23.530
emotionally in a place that he did not connect

00:34:23.530 --> 00:34:27.130
well. And then his father died. He only had his

00:34:27.130 --> 00:34:31.050
brother. And then there's the rest of his life

00:34:31.050 --> 00:34:32.929
that happened. You can read his biography or

00:34:32.929 --> 00:34:35.909
look at the links in the study guide for this

00:34:35.909 --> 00:34:42.880
study. When we visited the church, what was very

00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:47.880
interesting is that not only were we able to

00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.760
see the graveyard where he is, but we were able

00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:53.400
to go inside the church. We had a time there

00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:55.860
to pray together with the team and sing together.

00:34:56.900 --> 00:35:02.760
And the people leading that time were telling

00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:06.880
us, oh, you want to sit down at the bench where

00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:10.400
C .S. Lewis used to sit? It's like, you know

00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:12.199
where he used to sit? Yeah, he used to sit here.

00:35:12.860 --> 00:35:15.440
And they have even a little plaque right there

00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:18.139
with the name C .S. Lewis. It's like, before

00:35:18.139 --> 00:35:19.860
you knew it, everybody wanted to sit there and

00:35:19.860 --> 00:35:22.739
take a picture. And they would explain to us,

00:35:22.780 --> 00:35:25.460
like, he was famous, but he didn't like people.

00:35:25.659 --> 00:35:28.280
Like, he didn't like that. He was just a simple

00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.760
guy, so he would sit here, because there's this

00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:33.800
pillar right here, so it would cover him from

00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:36.159
seeing people. And he would only see the preacher,

00:35:36.300 --> 00:35:41.940
like that. He was an introvert. And he liked

00:35:41.940 --> 00:35:46.000
it like that. We visited his home that we were

00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.179
able now to do the tour to understand better

00:35:48.179 --> 00:35:51.659
his life and everything. And that was my third

00:35:51.659 --> 00:35:55.380
time for me doing that tour and being in Oxford.

00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:58.420
But all of those moments are such a good reminder.

00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.559
Sometimes you see people that have succeeded

00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.480
or God has used tremendously and you think of

00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.619
them as if they are like somewhere there. And

00:36:08.619 --> 00:36:12.539
in reality, they were just normal people with

00:36:12.539 --> 00:36:16.420
simple gifts that they made available for God.

00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.739
And God used them beyond what they could ever

00:36:19.739 --> 00:36:23.880
imagine or do on their own. And that's what you

00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.440
see here in this picture. You come out of the

00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.420
church, right there on the yard, the cemetery.

00:36:31.380 --> 00:36:33.599
And there's his graveyard. And we're able to

00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:36.800
stand around with our team as we're reflected.

00:36:37.550 --> 00:36:41.570
On his life. And then we thank God together for

00:36:41.570 --> 00:36:46.409
his life. You know what the Bible says about

00:36:46.409 --> 00:36:51.289
this? Jesus said that he has entrusted people

00:36:51.289 --> 00:36:54.670
with gifts. And he told this parable. He gave

00:36:54.670 --> 00:36:57.130
gifts to this guy, to this guy, to this guy.

00:36:57.289 --> 00:37:00.610
And then each one reacted to it differently.

00:37:00.650 --> 00:37:03.409
And one of them decided not to do anything with

00:37:03.409 --> 00:37:07.980
it. The other two did something with it. And

00:37:07.980 --> 00:37:12.119
at the end of the story, Jesus says, well done,

00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:16.739
good and faithful servant. You have been faithful

00:37:16.739 --> 00:37:19.500
with a few things. I will put you in charge of

00:37:19.500 --> 00:37:23.099
many things. Come, share your master's happiness.

00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:30.360
And that's the end of the parable. And this is

00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:35.630
the reminder that at the end of the day, When

00:37:35.630 --> 00:37:39.489
everything is said and done, whether you have

00:37:39.489 --> 00:37:42.269
become a person that is well known or someone

00:37:42.269 --> 00:37:48.110
that very few people know, that really does not

00:37:48.110 --> 00:37:52.809
matter. What matters is what God thinks and what

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God says and God knows whether you are living

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to serve him and you're investing what he has

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entrusted you with for his purposes. And one

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day, I do not know you, but me. If there's one

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thing that I desire, it's to hear our Lord say,

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well done, good and faithful servant. Just come

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and share in your master's happiness. You finally

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made it. You are here. Come in. Well done. That

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will mean more than anything else. And that's

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why in this role of leadership in which the Lord

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entrusts us with, we have to be very well grounded

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on this space. From a leader to a leader. Let

00:38:51.340 --> 00:38:57.519
me tell you this. When you are leading, sometimes

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you will say things or do things that people

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will love. And sometimes you will do things or

00:39:04.179 --> 00:39:08.179
say things that people will dislike. People will

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love you and equally people will hate you. That's

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the way of leadership. If you lose your perspective,

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you're going to become a people -pleasing leader.

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Manipulative, fake, you name it. You lost your

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perspective. In reality, it doesn't matter whether

00:39:38.059 --> 00:39:42.519
you liked the leadership, whether you liked the

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sermon, whether you liked what was said or not

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said. At the end of the day, if we are sitting

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across from each other with a cup of coffee and

00:39:53.300 --> 00:39:57.460
whatever you have in your cup, and I can tell

00:39:57.460 --> 00:40:03.179
you, you know what I realize? I don't care. I

00:40:03.179 --> 00:40:06.460
don't care what people think. I don't care what

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you think. Because the only thing that matters

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is what God thinks. And he knows the truth. And

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one day we are going to stand in his presence.

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Truth will be spoken. So leaders, if you are

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leading, don't fall for the trap of leading to

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please people. Lead. to please God. And when

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you do that, so much freeing because you are

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serving the Lord with eternal perspective. Live

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for this day, not for Friday. So, is serving

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God your priority? Is this part of the perspective

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or you have lost that perspective? And I realized

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as I conclude this reflection that if God is

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going to become my priority, if loving people

00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:12.980
is going to become a priority, and serving God

00:41:12.980 --> 00:41:14.659
is going to become a priority, and that's how

00:41:14.659 --> 00:41:16.579
we follow the Lord because that's what eternal

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perspective is about. Sometimes that takes you

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to places that are difficult because it costs

00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:29.570
you. You have a higher price to pay than other

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people. And sometimes that price is a relational

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cost of separation. You will have to be separated

00:41:38.510 --> 00:41:42.409
from people that you love. Your children grow

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up. They're in other countries. You will never

00:41:45.449 --> 00:41:49.150
see them. You will see them once a year. Grandkids

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are born. You don't get to be with them. You

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don't get to see them grow old because God placed

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you somewhere else. You went and visited your

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parents during this break, and when you say goodbye

00:42:01.610 --> 00:42:05.550
to them, you wonder, is this the last time I'm

00:42:05.550 --> 00:42:10.750
going to see them? How did you function in that

00:42:10.750 --> 00:42:18.550
space? How does separation become manageable?

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How do you carry that weight? There's only one

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way. And that's with eternal perspective. Because

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if we are going to be able to pay the price of

00:42:35.860 --> 00:42:39.659
separation, it's because we understand that separation

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is temporary. And we have to see it that way.

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Otherwise the grieving becomes difficult. As

00:42:52.500 --> 00:42:54.719
we were in Guatemala during our time there, it

00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:57.099
was our first time as a family to be there in

00:42:57.099 --> 00:43:01.860
a beautiful country. And we were there to celebrate

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the 60th anniversary of my parents. And you can

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see them right here in the middle. The white

00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:11.519
hair, gray hair, that's dad. His name is Nelson.

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And next to him, mom, Rebecca. Some of you have

00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:21.679
asked us, how are your parents doing? Mom had

00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:25.019
stomach cancer. Her stomach was removed. She

00:43:25.019 --> 00:43:27.019
went through chemo. She's cancer -free today.

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And she's stable. She's in a good place. How's

00:43:32.980 --> 00:43:36.219
your dad doing? Well, dad is also stable. He's

00:43:36.219 --> 00:43:42.980
in a place in which his memory issues with the

00:43:42.980 --> 00:43:46.300
beginnings of Alzheimer's and all of that is

00:43:46.300 --> 00:43:49.940
progressing but still functional. So we can still

00:43:49.940 --> 00:43:52.599
talk, we can still joke, we can still do things,

00:43:52.780 --> 00:43:58.539
but he's a fraction of what he used to be. And

00:43:58.539 --> 00:44:01.420
that space of deeper conversation cannot happen.

00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:05.559
You cannot go deeper because that's missing now.

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But we were able to be together, and as you know,

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I'm the fourth of seven kids. Six of the seven

00:44:15.469 --> 00:44:18.170
were able to gather together, so the others arrived

00:44:18.170 --> 00:44:20.329
as a surprise for my parents. We all gathered

00:44:20.329 --> 00:44:25.190
there. And we live in different countries, different

00:44:25.190 --> 00:44:28.349
places, and we know that then it's time to say

00:44:28.349 --> 00:44:33.570
goodbye. And then our son Alex was able to join

00:44:33.570 --> 00:44:36.130
us there as well, so it was good to be together.

00:44:36.170 --> 00:44:38.849
Our kids love each other. They have a good relationship,

00:44:39.050 --> 00:44:42.269
so they look forward to being together. and for

00:44:42.269 --> 00:44:44.010
him to reconnect with the rest of the family.

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And then we have to say goodbye to him, too,

00:44:46.750 --> 00:44:50.570
because he lives in Oregon and graduated from

00:44:50.570 --> 00:44:52.630
college already, and he's in a new season in

00:44:52.630 --> 00:44:57.829
his life. So we are in this time in which it's

00:44:57.829 --> 00:45:00.730
like we love people, we love family, we enjoy

00:45:00.730 --> 00:45:03.269
a little bit, and then goodbye. And when do we

00:45:03.269 --> 00:45:05.809
see each other? Would it be heaven? Would it

00:45:05.809 --> 00:45:11.309
be here? We do not know. If you live in that

00:45:11.309 --> 00:45:17.210
space, I understand. One of my brothers is not

00:45:17.210 --> 00:45:21.130
a follower of Christ. So I also know what it's

00:45:21.130 --> 00:45:23.230
like to feel at moments like, is this the last

00:45:23.230 --> 00:45:26.110
time? And am I going to see him in heaven or

00:45:26.110 --> 00:45:31.599
not? I don't know. And in those moments you intercede

00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:34.219
and we intercede for you if you have loved ones

00:45:34.219 --> 00:45:36.460
that do not know the Lord and that's heavy in

00:45:36.460 --> 00:45:38.400
your heart and you say, Pastor Pablo, pray for

00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:41.000
my father, pray for my sibling, pray for mom.

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We understand. The only way we can live in this

00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:53.260
space is with eternal perspective. So let me

00:45:53.260 --> 00:45:57.079
conclude with this verse because this is what

00:45:57.690 --> 00:45:59.690
The Apostle Paul says in Philippians and captures

00:45:59.690 --> 00:46:03.630
it so well. He says, I have told you before.

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And I say it again with tears in my eyes that

00:46:08.989 --> 00:46:11.690
there are many whose conduct shows that they

00:46:11.690 --> 00:46:15.670
are real enemies of the cross of Christ. They

00:46:15.670 --> 00:46:18.409
are headed for destruction and their God is their

00:46:18.409 --> 00:46:22.170
appetite. They brag about shameful things. They

00:46:22.170 --> 00:46:25.769
think only about this life here on earth. they

00:46:25.769 --> 00:46:27.570
do not have eternal perspective because they

00:46:27.570 --> 00:46:32.789
do not know the Lord. So they live for here and

00:46:32.789 --> 00:46:37.489
now by you, follower of Jesus. You and I are

00:46:37.489 --> 00:46:43.250
not them. We are citizens of heaven where the

00:46:43.250 --> 00:46:47.250
Lord Jesus Christ lives and we are eagerly waiting

00:46:47.250 --> 00:46:50.210
for him to return as our Savior and he will take...

00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.000
Our weak mortal bodies. And change them into

00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:56.219
glorious bodies. Like his own. Using the same

00:46:56.219 --> 00:46:59.760
power. With which he will bring everything under

00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.519
his control. This is what is about to happen.

00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:06.179
This is where we are going. So if God is calling

00:47:06.179 --> 00:47:09.079
you to be separated. From people that you love.

00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:14.940
It's worth it. For the cause of Christ. Because

00:47:14.940 --> 00:47:19.099
the separation is temporary. The day is coming.

00:47:19.739 --> 00:47:22.760
When the Lord will come back and everything that

00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:25.920
we have lived for will be fulfilled. And that

00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:33.840
is the beginning of the rest of our lives. So

00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:39.500
we say goodbye with hope. And with perspective

00:47:39.500 --> 00:47:44.920
that is eternal. That is the only way. So if

00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.699
you are in that time of grieving, readjusting,

00:47:47.699 --> 00:47:53.420
don't. Lose your perspective. Jesus says that

00:47:53.420 --> 00:47:55.840
the only way to follow him is by keeping this

00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.119
eternal perspective. So therefore, that is how

00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.679
we're going to walk with God. We're not going

00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:05.260
to lose our perspective. And we're going to stand

00:48:05.260 --> 00:48:07.460
up together today and we're going to tell the

00:48:07.460 --> 00:48:13.579
Lord, Lord, you are amazing. And if I have lost

00:48:13.579 --> 00:48:17.079
my perspective, would you please reframe me again?

00:48:17.789 --> 00:48:20.170
Let me walk with you with eternal perspective

00:48:20.170 --> 00:48:25.030
because that is what my heart needs. If you have

00:48:25.030 --> 00:48:26.809
lost your perspective, would you tell the Lord?

00:48:30.489 --> 00:48:35.909
Will you recommit to him? Would you seek him

00:48:35.909 --> 00:48:39.730
to strengthen you? Here, right now, in your own

00:48:39.730 --> 00:48:45.739
words, as we worship the Lord. Father, You loved

00:48:45.739 --> 00:48:48.360
us and you sent your son Jesus to die for us

00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:54.159
so that all things can be made right again, reconciled

00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:59.860
with you. And your word says that one day our

00:48:59.860 --> 00:49:05.000
Lord Jesus will return and things will be fulfilled

00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:11.280
and we'll live for that. So thank you, Lord,

00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:14.079
for the experiences that have pointed us back

00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:18.760
to you. And I want to intercede for my friends

00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:22.400
here today, Lord, if there's anyone that have

00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:27.900
lost their perspective, bring them back to you.

00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.380
Empower them so that they will live for you first,

00:49:34.579 --> 00:49:39.670
to serve you first, and to love you People with

00:49:39.670 --> 00:49:44.909
your love. Even. When you have called them to

00:49:44.909 --> 00:49:49.730
love. People that are hard to love. You empower

00:49:49.730 --> 00:49:54.469
them. So intercede for them. And I ask you. Encounter

00:49:54.469 --> 00:49:57.030
them in this space of worship. In Jesus name.

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Amen. Whether near or far, if you are looking

00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:14.420
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00:50:14.420 --> 00:50:17.860
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