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Welcome to ECB's weekly sermon podcast. ECB is

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an international church in Bangkok, Thailand

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with dozens of nationalities worshiping together.

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We invite you to connect with us from wherever

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you are through our website, ecb .asia, or our

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mobile app. And now we pray that you are blessed

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by this week's sermon. We're concluding our sermon

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series focused on forgiveness. So we've taken

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the month of July to unpack a number of different

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parts of this sermon series, and our hope is

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that just because we're concluding this teaching,

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that it doesn't mean that we don't conclude our

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formation in this important and essential aspect

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of what it means to follow Jesus. As a quick

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recap, let me go back to the questions that we

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consider. The very first week, we looked at,

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why should I forgive? What's the reason for me

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forgiving to motivate me to forgive? In that

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we answered that it's out of obedience because

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we have received forgiveness for God, we give

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it to others. The second week we looked at why

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is forgiveness so hard? And for that we borrowed

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a definition from a theologian who he says my

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personal act, forgiveness is my personal act

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to release the one. who sinned against me for

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my personal right to collect a debt, a moral

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debt, and to pay him back for his offense. Instead

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of giving him back the pain he gave me, I absorbed

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that pain into myself with God's help. Obviously

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a very difficult task, something we have to have

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that last piece about God's help. And then we

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said, well, what happens if I don't forgive?

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And this was last Sunday. Well, if I don't forgive,

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resentment begins to build in me, which then

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turns into bitterness, which puts these deep

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roots deep down inside of me and actually strangles

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myself. And in all of these different questions

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that we asked, we could have done a long series

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on each of those. So the very first thing that

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I want to just call your attention to right now

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this morning is as we have taken a very complicated

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topic and put it into four weeks, if there's

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anything in this series that you want to have

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more conversations about and to wrestle through

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with or things that were unsettling to you, please

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come and talk with me after and I'm happy to

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walk with you through those. Along those lines,

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I want to invite us to pray and just ask that

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the Holy Spirit would be doing what he does best

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in this time. God, we are here gathered together

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because of you. And we are gathered with you.

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And we are gathered turning our attention towards

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you. So I ask that the words of my mouth, the

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meditations of my heart, that they would indeed

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be pleasing to you because you are our rock and

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our refuge as we declared. Holy Spirit, we want

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to invite you to move in us through this time.

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Pray this in Jesus' name. Amen. Ruptures all

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over the place. Things torn apart, not as they

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are supposed to be, right? And relationally,

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we understand this. There's conflicts with different

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people in this room amongst each other. There

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are things within your own families, things within

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the community around. There's ruptures with the

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very world that we live on that we keep causing.

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I want to turn to two different ways that we

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often respond to ruptures. before we get to a

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third way that Jesus often calls us to. One of

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those ways, to borrow from Scott Hayden's words

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for this, is to fake peace or to fake repair,

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right? So there's those of us who may tend to

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curate the world around us in such a way to make

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it seem as though there's peace. As an illustration

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for this, my family had the privilege of driving

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up to Chiang Mai earlier this year. Eight -hour

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drive, right? What could go wrong with three

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kids in a car for eight hours? I had two choices

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before me, two different vehicles that I could

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use. One where all three of them were sitting

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in the same row or another vehicle where I could

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put each of them in their own row. What do you

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think I chose? The second one, right? Such a

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great father. So put them each in their own rows

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that I can have peace as I'm driving all the

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way up to Chiang Mai, right? This is a fake form

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of peace where we kind of, separate ourselves

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depending on how we feel, but we fake that there

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is a sense of unity together. But there's another

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side to it that we can force peace. And for this

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one, I'm going to go back a number of years to

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when I was just starting as a father. And there

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was a friend of mine who had been parenting for

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a while. And I was over at his house one day

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and I said, what do you do when your kids are

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arguing and fighting? And he said, by the way,

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Let me say from the get -go, this is not parenting

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advice. So please just leave it there. This is

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to illustrate. So he said, what I do when they

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are arguing and fighting with each other, when

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there is tension, I get the shirt of repair out.

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And I was like, what's the shirt of repair? It's

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a single shirt that I put both kids in. And so

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they wear this shirt for the rest of the day,

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walking around in this, forcing them to reconcile,

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right? So again, not parenting advice, but just

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an illustration. We can fake peace or we can

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force peace. We can fake repair or we can force

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repair. But Jesus, like he always does, is going

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to call us to a third way. Something that is

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much more difficult. Something that actually

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in our own ability is impossible. But it requires

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him. And so we're going to ask this question

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today. What is forgiveness actually for? Because

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we've been talking about it the last three weeks.

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It is not the actual end goal. It's a means to

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something much more significant. So what is forgiveness

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actually for? A more serious situation that happened

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in 1994. This spring, over the course of 100

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days, in the country of Rwanda, 800 ,000 people

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were murdered. Neighbors killed neighbors. Friends

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killed friends. People from within the same group

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actually turned on one another and killed them.

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Now, the ruptures that had been the history of

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this are long and complicated and tragic. But

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it all culminated in one single time frame where,

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think about the numbers of this, around 300 people

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per hour were dying during these 100 days. I

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want to ask you, though, when you hear that story,

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what do you do? What goes on in your own heart?

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My guess is that one response that we have is

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to say, oh man, that's not the way things are

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supposed to be. Which calls out to the fact that

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we know that that's wrong and that repair or

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a sense of wholeness is supposed to be there.

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But perhaps another thing I want to have you

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pay attention to is, do you relate or do you

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push away from that? Do you hear this story and

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say, what in the world would make them do that?

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Because the story of scripture actually is going

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to help us to see that you and I all have this

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capacity ingrained in the very fabric of our

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DNA. The same capacity that caused what happened

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in Rwanda, you and I are capable of. This is

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why when Jesus comes and he gives the Sermon

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on the Mount, he doesn't say, hey, those who

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are murderers, you go over here and the rest

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of you, you check out. He says, nope, actually,

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if you call a brother raka or fool or you have

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contempt for them or there's anger within your

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own heart, you're in danger of the same thing

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that caused somebody to murder another person.

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So we begin with what is forgiveness for? Can

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it actually respond to the problem in Rwanda?

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We're going to park that story. We'll come back

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to it in a little bit. But instead, we're going

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to turn to the larger story of Scripture, and

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we're going to look at the big frame before we

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get to the third -way passage that was just read

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for us right in the middle. So as a quick summary,

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Genesis 1 and 2, what does God do? God places

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a man and a woman in a garden. He creates them

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to reflect his very nature. They are supposed

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to and designed to take what is good, what's

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right, what's true, what's beautiful, and they're

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supposed to multiply that in the world around

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them, right? So the idea is that they're going

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to multiply this and it's going to go out into

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the world around. But a significant thing happens,

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a rupture that completely severs that intimate

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moment by moment relationship. Adam and Eve decide

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to say, hey, instead of us having this repaired,

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this perfect relationship, right relationship

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with you, God, we're going to turn our attention

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over to your enemy. And we're going to trust

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him. And what the enemy does is he comes to steal,

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kill, and destroy. And so the same mechanism

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within us about multiplication, ends up becoming

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us being able to have the capacity to kill, steal,

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and destroy written within us. And that's what

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scripture does. And you know what's incredible

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about God's word? If I was writing a book trying

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to convince you that I'm a good God and that

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I want you to come back to me, I may polish over

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some of the stuff that happens. I may not include

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some of these harder stories. But God doesn't

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do that. He does it as a warning for us to say,

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hey, this is actually a part of our own existence,

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our DNA, and we need help. So we're going to

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look at somebody, King David, really briefly.

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King David in 1 Samuel 13 is called a man after

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God's own heart, right? So this is by many metrics,

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one of the best leaders that ever was. He was

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an incredible man. The Psalms are written by

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him. These beautiful dialogue with God that gives

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us an insight into what it's like to journey

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with God through life. He's the one who actually

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brought the nation together. But he has this

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rupturing ability that shows up a number of times.

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And potentially one of the most tragic stories

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in scripture revolves around this man in 2 Samuel

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13. You have one of King David's sons, Amnon,

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who tricks and manipulates his half -sister into

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the room and violates her. And then, out of disgust,

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throws her out of the room and says, I want nothing

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to do with you. Get out of here. So she leaves

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with shame, and the rupture has already started

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there. What does King David do in this situation?

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This leader that we're supposed to look to to

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say, okay, maybe there's hope. Maybe I can respond

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in a different way. What does he do? He gets

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angry, but he doesn't actually cause repair.

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And instead, one of his other sons, Absalom,

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ends up plotting the murder of Amnon and kills

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his own brother. And then Absalom flees. And

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David is just out of, he's grieving for the fact

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that his son is now about rupture upon rupture,

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right? Well, Absalom eventually comes back, takes

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over David's throne, and David runs away. So

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you've now had a coup that has happened in a

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kingdom by a son against a father. Story we're

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familiar with, right? Well, eventually David

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comes back and Absalom is fleeing and David says,

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hey, don't kill him, but he gets stuck in the

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tree. Remember this story with his hair? Gets

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stuck in the tree and he dies. And so now you've

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got King David who is lamenting the fact that

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this has happened within his family. But there's

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seeds that are planted here that are actually

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going to cause the division of God's people into

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two nations that will never return until Jesus

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comes back. That's the power of this multiplying

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rupture that is written within your and my very

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fabric. So what do we do? Well, You have two

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different choices to look at. You can look to

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humanity and say, hey, can you please solve my

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problems? Or we can look to God himself who came

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as a human and say, could you show me a third

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way? Could you show me a different way forward,

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Lord? I want repair. I long for it. I see that

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I'm searching for it. Can you show me that repair?

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So this is where Jesus comes. King Jesus steps

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into the very mess of our reality and he brings

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about a different vision. But it's tough. It

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is really, really hard. And we're going to unpack

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it here looking at the passage. Before we do

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that though, because the very first aspect of

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the passage that is necessary is for us to be

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people who practice forgiveness. Then we're going

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to look at the purpose of forgiveness. And then

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we're going to look at a path towards reconciliation.

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This is more of a review from the first service.

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There's a practice that we engage in that we

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saw from God in how he forgave us that we forgive

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others, right? And the very first one is to name

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the debt. As followers of Jesus, we don't put

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things under the rug or simply forget them. We

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actually name what has happened, the rupture

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that is before us. And we say, this is what I

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experienced. But we don't stay there. We turn

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to the next one, which is about our identity.

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And it is to say, Lord, I know that you have

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given us this great gift of grace. And I need

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to remember, as I'm naming the dead, I remember

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how you have forgiven me. And then the third

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part of it is releasing it and trusting our desire

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for vengeance or the desire to fix things ourselves,

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giving that back over to God. And this was review

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from week one. So there's far more to this that

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we unpacked there, and I would encourage you

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to check it out if you missed that sermon. But

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the practice of forgiveness is not all, right?

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We still want to answer that question, what is

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forgiveness actually for? What is both the purpose

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of it as well as a path forward? And in order

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to understand this, we need to look at one of

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the first things that Paul says in this passage.

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Go ahead and read it out. What does he say? Christ's

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love, what does it do? Controls us. Different

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translations will say compels or moves us. Why

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would Paul start this whole passage about reconciliation,

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about control? Well, because the way that you

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and I are designed is we give our allegiance

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to something. Everyone in here has given our

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allegiance to something. And there is... all

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kinds of different ways that we can give our

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allegiance to that. And whatever we give our

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allegiance to will end up controlling or moving

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us in life. And there is currently, that has

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been for some time, a worldview or a paradigm,

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we might say, that comes at us, voices, over

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and over and over again. And it's termed moralistic

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therapeutic deism. So when you go to lunch today,

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whoever you're having lunch with, you can just

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sit across the table from them and be like, hey,

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what do you think about moralistic therapeutic

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deism? And on the other side, they'll be like,

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can you pass the french fries? And then you'll

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wonder the next week, why did this person not

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want to go to lunch with me again? But this term,

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although it sounds big, there's some components

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to it that I think you and I might recognize.

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The moralistic part is about me living a good

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life. What does it look like for me to be a good

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boy or a good girl in this world? What do I do

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to live a good life, right? And the therapeutic

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side is to say that my main goal is actually

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to be happy. So I'm going to try to live a good

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life and I need and I deserve to be happy. Does

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it sound somewhat like from scripture? Yeah,

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there's a little... bits and pieces of that.

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I think God wants us to live morally, accurately,

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according to the way he has designed. And I think

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he also cares about our well -being, our wholeness,

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and our healing. But this third part, the deism,

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which is usually to say that there's some God

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that's far out there. This God in moralistic,

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therapeutic deism is basically there to help

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me accomplish those two goals. So God, I come

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to you when maybe I'm not able to be a good boy

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or a good girl. And I say, help me with this.

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Or I come to you when I'm not feeling happy and

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I don't feel free. And so I say, hey, can you

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help me with this? But the problem with this

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is when that controls you and you face something

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like the Rwanda genocide or something so significant,

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like many of you have shared stories of incredible

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rupture in your own lives. It only goes so far.

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If it is truly about my own happiness and my

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ability to cause things, I'm going to come up

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short. So Jesus is going to say, hey, I'm going

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to call you to a bigger vision, something even

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more significant. And what is that bigger vision?

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Well, forgiveness is more than moral improvement

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or personal healing. It's something beyond that.

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Here's what Paul says. So we have stopped evaluating

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others from that human point of view. And right

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now, that's the most common one we face. But

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it's not the only one. There's been all kinds

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of narratives that have caused us or called for

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our attention. So whatever those are, we're not

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going to evaluate people by that human point

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of view. You see, at one time, we thought of

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Christ merely from a human point of view. How

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differently we know him now. He's not just there

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to make me happy and healthy. He's there for

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something much more significant. What is that?

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This means that anyone who belongs to Christ

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has become a new person. The old life is gone

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and a new has begun. Now, the NLT translated

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begun, which I love. And if you actually look

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in the Greek, it is talking about it's not completed.

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This is all of us going forward. This is something

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that is moving within us. And Paul's going to

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say, and all of this is a gift from God who brought

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us back to himself through Christ. I'm going

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to invite you to sit with me for a little bit

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as we go more technical into this verse here.

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And for those of you who are grammar people,

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you may like this and enjoy it. For the rest

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of you, there's a point to it that we will get

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to. So just hold on a little bit, but do some

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deep work with me. Here's what Paul is actually

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saying in this passage. Who actually caused the

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offense against God? You and I, right? Our ancestors

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did and we've continued that going forward. So

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it would make sense that we would be the ones

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doing the initiating to repair. But the way Paul

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packs in a theology in this section is incredible.

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God, the one who is offended, is the one who

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does the movement forward. And he does that movement

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forward at a cost to himself as the very instrument

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of fixing things. He becomes the means. And what

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is the action that is happening? The action that

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is happening is that he's bringing us back to

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himself. He's repairing, he's reconciling. And

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we, as the one who caused the offense, get everything

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in the situation. What in the world? Nobody treats

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us that way, right? This is... What grace is.

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It's incredible. And Paul has packed this into

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this verse here. And it reminds me of an important

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art practice from Japan called Kitsuki. I have

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a neighbor that actually practices this just

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a few doors down. And what Kitsuki is, is it

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actually takes broken pieces of pottery. So imagine

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that you have your favorite mug or a bowl or

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vase or something of that nature and you are

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taking care of it and it falls and it drops and

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it ruptures, it shatters. Now you normally, you

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would look at that and you'd say, look at all

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these pieces, there's maybe nothing I can do

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to it and you kind of scoop it back together

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and what would we think of doing? We'd probably

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take it to the garbage bin, right? But God, In

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such a more magnificent story, he looks at us

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in that and he says, actually, I can take that

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and put it back together. And the thing with

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this art is that you take a glue, an adhesive

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that is infused with gold. But his neighbor said

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that actually that gold -infused adhesive is

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toxic. And if you get it on your hands, you're

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actually going to have a sense of like a rash

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that's there where your skin is saying, hey,

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I don't like this. Does it sound a little bit

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like forgiveness? This comes at a cost to me

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to put this thing back together. Not only is

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this meticulous work of taking all of these pieces

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and putting it back together, but the very glue,

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the fabric that holds it together is toxic in

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and of itself. That's what Paul is saying God

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has done for you. And for me, this work of reconciling,

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of bringing us back to himself. But God hasn't

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just left it there. He's given us the task of

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reconciling people to himself. He didn't just

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put the bowl back together and say, all right,

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we're done. He's actually called us to something

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even more significant with that. So for God was

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in Christ, reconciling the world to himself,

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no longer counting people's sins against them.

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And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.

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He finally ends it with this. So we are Christ's

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ambassadors. Ambassador is like a representative,

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somebody who speaks on or acts on behalf of the

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one that they represent. God is making his appeal

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through us and we speak for Christ when we plead

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what? All together, come back to God. Again,

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what? Come back to God. Brothers and sisters,

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if there is one guiding vision statement for

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your life, It is that you are helping people

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come back to God. That is a great call that he

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has called us to. So you look at the full story

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and you see Christ coming in the middle. He does

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this reconciling work, inviting us back to himself.

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And then he sends us out to be people who cause

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repair in the world around us. But it doesn't

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just end there because we know in Revelation

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21 and 22, it says that all things that were

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wrong are made right again. And that God's very

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dwelling is amongst his people. What was at the

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very beginning, this perfect union with God,

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has not only been restored, but like a beautiful

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vase that has been recovered and repaired through

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the artwork of Kintsuki, is actually more beautiful

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than when it started. That's the God that we

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serve. And he calls us to that very work in the

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here and the not yet. And it is difficult work

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of reconciling. So it is not your job to cause

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reconciliation. It is your job to join God's

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reconciliation. This is important because I will

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get easily offended if I am running around and

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I have. trying to reconcile things, either ways

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that I have been offended. And I believe this

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is my reconciliation that I'm trying to cause.

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Whose reconciliation is it? It's God's. And I

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partner with him in that reconciliation. So whenever

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we have a conflict or something, we sit across

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the table and we are both on the same side with

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God doing that magnificent work in the middle.

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But you might say, okay, Pastor Phil, this sounds

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nice. But how do you actually do this? What does

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that look like? Well, again, we could take a

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long time going into what it looks like to begin

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to collect the pieces of our own lives that have

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been ruptured, of the lives of people around

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us, of the lives of a community and put it back

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together. How do we actually do that? For this,

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we're going to look at a path of repair. And

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it's long and it's complicated and it's an art

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in and of itself. And I give you that as a warning

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beforehand because if any of you think, okay,

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all right, I heard that I'm supposed to cause

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repair and I'm going to go out and do that. This

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is something you can practice your whole life

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and we're still going to need a lot of Holy Spirit

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inspired wisdom throughout the whole thing. And

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that's kind of the point. There's a picture that

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was taken of my daughter and one of her friends

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this past week. And as I was working on the sermon,

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this picture shows up in my messages. and it's

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from a local place here in Bangkok. And we think

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about a rupture that is there. You see, when

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we've talked about forgiveness, we've talked

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about it being really an attitude that we have.

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For the most part, it's an internal thing. It

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can be expressed towards another, but it's me

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and God doing work here. Reconciliation is different.

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Reconciliation is me actually holding my hand

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out, and there has to be a person on the other

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side. I cannot reconcile when there's not somebody

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on the other side. Forgiveness is a solo, as

00:26:34.140 --> 00:26:39.279
they say. Reconciliation is what? A duet. It's

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two people working together to do this. And this

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is another important point. You cannot force

00:26:44.259 --> 00:26:47.509
people to reconcile. This has to be the act of

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God working within the two of you to come together.

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And so this picture of reaching out your hand,

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hold on to that as we continue going forward.

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So what are the actual components of this? Well,

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one of the first ones is conviction. I need to

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know that I am capable of rupture. If you are

00:27:07.650 --> 00:27:10.450
sitting here and you're like, okay, he's talking

00:27:10.450 --> 00:27:13.289
about rupture and I know people who cause rupture

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and your whole thought process is, Oh yeah, that

00:27:16.099 --> 00:27:19.299
one. Oh yeah, that guy over there. You're missing

00:27:19.299 --> 00:27:22.140
the very foundation of what needs to happen for

00:27:22.140 --> 00:27:25.000
reconciliation. And that's that you and I are

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able to cause, and we do cause, rupture with

00:27:28.019 --> 00:27:30.960
our own lives, with the lives of others. We are

00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:35.740
capable of committing rupture. That's the foundational

00:27:35.740 --> 00:27:38.660
thing. So if you and I are dealing with some

00:27:38.660 --> 00:27:40.859
kind of rupture, if I come into it thinking,

00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.059
yeah, I don't really have a problem, that's all

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on you. It may be, 5 % and 95%. I still have

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a part to own in that process of reconciliation.

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So I need to acknowledge it. The second one is

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confession. Confession at the most simple sense

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is to say, I agree with God. I agree with God.

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Whatever God says is good, right? True and beautiful.

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I agree with that. So if he says, Phil, you need

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to live in such a way where the fruit of the

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Spirit is evident in you. Love, joy, peace, patience,

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kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,

00:28:16.180 --> 00:28:20.599
self -control. Oh, man. All right, God, I believe

00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:25.119
that that is correct. I agree with you. I confess

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that that's correct. I acknowledge that. But

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there's a second side to this. It's kind of like

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two sides of the same coin. Repentance is the

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other one. Repentance is a change of direction.

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It's committing to do something different. Now,

00:28:38.549 --> 00:28:42.829
as an illustration, I believe that the stage

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has a drop -off here, right? So I can agree to

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that in my mind. The stage has a drop -off. And

00:28:49.349 --> 00:28:51.930
if I'm simply agreeing that the stage has a drop

00:28:51.930 --> 00:28:54.809
-off, but I'm not doing anything about it, I

00:28:54.809 --> 00:28:58.589
fall right off, right? This is God actually telling

00:28:58.589 --> 00:29:01.920
us, hey, You can agree to something, but you

00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:04.599
need to actually demonstrate a movement in a

00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:07.279
different direction. Reconciliation requires

00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.400
me to begin to show that movement. So if you

00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:14.019
are reconciling with somebody and they stop at

00:29:14.019 --> 00:29:16.420
the second one of confession, but you don't see

00:29:16.420 --> 00:29:18.440
any changes within them, you're going to have

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to go back to the beginning and work through

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it again. Because this has to begin to change.

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Now, a note, we do not change overnight. You

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cannot simply say, anger, I want you to be done,

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and it's gone. Anybody who works with counseling

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will tell you that does not work to just say,

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I'm going to try harder not to. I'm going to

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force it to be gone. What's the next step? Restitution.

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Paying back for something. Now, if I happen to

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swipe a thousand baht out of your pocket, by

00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:51.559
the way, I did not do that, just to be clear.

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If I swipe 1 ,000 baht out of your pocket, how

00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.359
do I pay that back? That's quite easy, right?

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I need to take 1 ,000 baht and pay you back.

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But I've caused a second form of rupture, which

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is trust. You now no longer trust me. You are

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walking around the church because the pastor

00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.700
has been stealing and you're now keeping your

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hands in your pocket. And the front row is wide

00:30:16.259 --> 00:30:18.200
open and everybody's kind of sitting back there

00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.190
because I've made a name for myself. Restitution

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is an important part of actually working towards

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rebuilding trust. I do what I can to pay back.

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Now, the really difficult thing with restitution

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is there are some things, some ruptures, some

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ways that we hurt other people that we can never

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pay back. But you still are grieved by it and

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you help the other person know that this sits

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with you and you do what you can to pay back

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restitution. And then the next one is reconciliation.

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This is the part where both of you, again, rebuild

00:30:53.619 --> 00:30:57.460
trust together and it can take a long time. So

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yeah, we've been talking about forgiveness for

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a number of weeks. This is possibly the longer

00:31:02.140 --> 00:31:04.960
work that goes on and it keeps going and going

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and going. And it's a complicated path with different

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pieces and components. And it's a lot of work.

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So what do we often do? Go back. to either shoving

00:31:17.859 --> 00:31:21.200
a shirt on a person and saying, get along, or

00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:25.900
we just kind of, I'm just going to let that one

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go. And I'm going to let that one go. And that

00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.700
one as well. And we're going to fake peace or

00:31:33.700 --> 00:31:38.920
force peace, right? But this isn't what Jesus

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has done with us. And it is not what we are invited

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into. There's such a bigger story of us participating

00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:51.180
in it. And you know what? I'm going to unsell

00:31:51.180 --> 00:31:56.519
the entire sermon with this statement. I've engaged

00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.799
in paths of reconciliation many times. And more

00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.640
often than not, they don't succeed. I'll sit

00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.160
through conversations with others or I will participate

00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.720
in them. And more often than not, we will not

00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:12.799
get to that last one. So you might say, well,

00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.279
then what's the point of all of this? The point

00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.839
is actually that in and through each one of those,

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the ultimate goal of life is being accomplished,

00:32:20.299 --> 00:32:23.259
which is me increasing my awareness that God

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is with me. So the more I don't cause repair

00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.599
in the life around me, whether it's my own and

00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:32.839
the community around, the more I'm going to say,

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Lord, help, Lord, help, Lord, help. And in that

00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.099
process, I'm actually learning to journey through

00:32:38.099 --> 00:32:41.079
life with him again and again and again. And

00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:44.099
ultimately, it's his job as well. So he will,

00:32:44.259 --> 00:32:46.579
as we said, cause all things that are wrong to

00:32:46.579 --> 00:32:49.220
be right again. So in this process, I'm simply

00:32:49.220 --> 00:32:53.859
a steward of it as I journey forward. This is

00:32:53.859 --> 00:32:56.240
why Jesus comes and he said, blessed are the

00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.579
peacemakers. Not blessed are those who... experience

00:32:59.579 --> 00:33:02.940
peace or blessed are those who force peace. He

00:33:02.940 --> 00:33:06.319
said, blessed those who cause peace, who make

00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:09.119
peace, who do the incredible difficult work of

00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:11.720
peace. Now, if you look at the Beatitudes, Jesus

00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.220
isn't saying, hey, here's ways that you should

00:33:14.220 --> 00:33:16.220
and should not live your life necessarily. Some

00:33:16.220 --> 00:33:18.539
are, some are not. But really what he's doing

00:33:18.539 --> 00:33:21.240
is he's saying, these people, when you begin

00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:26.150
to experience this, the kingdom of God. or them

00:33:26.150 --> 00:33:28.470
being children of God is going to be evident

00:33:28.470 --> 00:33:32.309
to them. Because the harder peacemaking is, the

00:33:32.309 --> 00:33:35.589
more I'm going to end up spending time with my

00:33:35.589 --> 00:33:38.329
heavenly father and looking and smelling and

00:33:38.329 --> 00:33:42.210
acting and thinking like him. And that's what

00:33:42.210 --> 00:33:45.009
Jesus is calling to say, blessed are the peacemakers

00:33:45.009 --> 00:33:47.049
for they are going to look like children of God.

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Brothers and sisters, that is the invitation

00:33:50.339 --> 00:33:53.200
for us. We are called and commanded to forgive

00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.299
and you are invited to a larger thing of reconciliation

00:33:56.299 --> 00:34:00.900
together. So what is forgiveness actually for?

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Forgiveness is not the end goal. Forgiveness

00:34:05.009 --> 00:34:08.230
is a means to that end goal. The process of forgiveness

00:34:08.230 --> 00:34:11.050
helps me to engage in reconciliation. And when

00:34:11.050 --> 00:34:14.110
I engage in reconciliation, I am doing that all

00:34:14.110 --> 00:34:17.929
with God himself. And in that, I am experiencing

00:34:17.929 --> 00:34:22.030
the goal of life, which is to be with God. I'm

00:34:22.030 --> 00:34:24.530
actually taking what is at the end, Revelation

00:34:24.530 --> 00:34:28.030
21 and 22, and I'm bringing that into the present

00:34:28.030 --> 00:34:31.840
as I walk around. I am becoming the bull that

00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.300
actually is the picture of where all things are

00:34:35.300 --> 00:34:39.559
going. So I'm going to invite you to answer and

00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:41.599
to reflect on and think through a couple questions

00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:47.119
this morning. Do you tend to fake or do you tend

00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:54.119
to force repair? And again, this is God's work.

00:34:54.139 --> 00:34:57.059
He knows it. Do you tend to fake or do you tend

00:34:57.059 --> 00:35:00.949
to force repair? And a more important question

00:35:00.949 --> 00:35:05.190
next to it is, what is God calling you to? What

00:35:05.190 --> 00:35:09.030
aspect of repair is God calling you to right

00:35:09.030 --> 00:35:14.090
now? Possibly it's your marriage. Possibly it

00:35:14.090 --> 00:35:17.190
is a friend of yours. If you've got children,

00:35:17.289 --> 00:35:19.389
possibly it's a relationship with one of them.

00:35:20.650 --> 00:35:22.789
Perhaps it's somebody that's sitting in here

00:35:22.789 --> 00:35:25.190
in a life group or something of that nature.

00:35:26.730 --> 00:35:29.690
And know that, if God is calling you to that,

00:35:29.750 --> 00:35:32.010
that he journeys with you and it is a complicated

00:35:32.010 --> 00:35:35.349
process, but that's what God has done for you.

00:35:35.449 --> 00:35:37.829
And as you participate with that, something even

00:35:37.829 --> 00:35:40.190
more beautiful than at the beginning can start.

00:35:41.510 --> 00:35:44.289
When my daughter broke her arm as a young kid,

00:35:44.449 --> 00:35:46.610
there was the question, of course, as a father

00:35:46.610 --> 00:35:48.809
to say, oh no, is her arm going to be weaker

00:35:48.809 --> 00:35:52.329
from now on? And this doctor actually looked

00:35:52.329 --> 00:35:54.250
at me and said, you know what is fascinating

00:35:54.250 --> 00:35:57.920
about our bodies? is a broken arm that is healed

00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.679
is actually stronger than when it first broke.

00:36:01.340 --> 00:36:04.000
So when she goes through this process of having

00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.119
a healed arm, she's actually going to be stronger.

00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.119
In a similar way, relationships that go through

00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.719
this process of reconciliation are far stronger

00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:16.599
than they were before that. Returning to the

00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:21.380
story in Rwanda. We know that that's a complicated

00:36:21.380 --> 00:36:24.139
mess. How do you take a tiny nation where close

00:36:24.139 --> 00:36:27.199
to a million people have lost their lives? What

00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:30.619
do you do, right? Maybe you just divide the country

00:36:30.619 --> 00:36:32.139
in half and you have people live in different

00:36:32.139 --> 00:36:36.860
parts. Sounds like my van story, right? But the

00:36:36.860 --> 00:36:40.519
church stepped in. They went into the prisons

00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:43.079
and they practiced this incredible work of reconciliation.

00:36:44.179 --> 00:36:47.039
And they started not by saying, hey, you need

00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:48.800
to turn to your neighbor and say, I'm sorry.

00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:53.460
They started by introducing the gospel and started

00:36:53.460 --> 00:36:56.099
by going back to this story of us being forgiven.

00:36:56.179 --> 00:36:58.699
And in that, there was repentance that happened,

00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:02.300
a conviction that says, hey, I actually have

00:37:02.300 --> 00:37:05.179
wronged. And in that, there was far more repentance

00:37:05.179 --> 00:37:07.539
than had ever come out in just normal court cases.

00:37:07.699 --> 00:37:09.800
They worked alongside the court cases, but people

00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:12.300
came forward with things that were far more than

00:37:12.300 --> 00:37:16.119
what happened at the beginning. And then they

00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:19.260
invited them if they wanted. to be part of what

00:37:19.260 --> 00:37:22.219
they called reconciliation villages, where you

00:37:22.219 --> 00:37:25.559
could go and live with these people that had

00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:27.980
caused you harm, but they had gone through this

00:37:27.980 --> 00:37:31.300
whole process. And you begin to rebuild trust

00:37:31.300 --> 00:37:34.739
in that space. And one of the stories that came

00:37:34.739 --> 00:37:37.159
out of that, that helps us to just kind of land

00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.980
the plane with this, is the following. There

00:37:39.980 --> 00:37:43.420
was a mother from the Tutsi tribe. They were

00:37:43.420 --> 00:37:47.300
the ones who lost the most amount of lives. who

00:37:47.300 --> 00:37:51.400
had a young kid and she needed to head into town

00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.619
and she was in one of these villages. And without

00:37:54.619 --> 00:37:57.159
thinking twice, because this whole process of

00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.900
reconciliation had happened, she turned to one

00:37:59.900 --> 00:38:02.420
of her Hutu neighbors and said, hey, would you

00:38:02.420 --> 00:38:05.820
mind watching my kid? Think about this. You're

00:38:05.820 --> 00:38:08.420
turning to somebody that within two or three

00:38:08.420 --> 00:38:11.099
years ago had actually been part of what had

00:38:11.099 --> 00:38:14.579
caused all this pain upon you. But something

00:38:14.579 --> 00:38:16.539
incredible had happened, which is that journey

00:38:16.539 --> 00:38:20.420
of reconciliation, this redoing that is only

00:38:20.420 --> 00:38:22.920
the work of God in and through that. And she

00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:26.360
said, I realized at that moment that that process

00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.400
of reconciliation in this relationship had gone

00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:33.360
into its completion. It's a lot of work, but

00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:35.519
it got there. I'm going to invite the worship

00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:39.619
team to go ahead and come up. For the rest of

00:38:39.619 --> 00:38:41.920
us, as we are waiting, I'm going to invite us

00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.239
to think about the following. In the new heavens

00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.340
and new earth, we get to be with God forever,

00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:52.320
with him. But it's not just something we are

00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:55.239
holding onto and waiting. You see, when Jesus

00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:59.519
paid, when he was paying for our own sins, and

00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.760
there was that restitution process where he was

00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:04.480
being crucified on the cross, something else

00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:09.300
happened at that moment. A veil was torn. There

00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:12.159
was a curtain that was thick that you and I could

00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.179
not tear apart that was meant to separate the

00:39:15.179 --> 00:39:19.599
space of God's symbolic presence and our being

00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.179
alienated from him that pictured that rupture

00:39:22.179 --> 00:39:24.840
from the very beginning. And when Christ was

00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:28.699
crucified on the cross and he cries out, he says,

00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:32.340
it's finished. This veil tears in two, this curtain

00:39:32.340 --> 00:39:35.480
tears in two, symbolically representing that

00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:39.679
you and I now have access to God here. Not just

00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.480
some far out thing that we're waiting for. We

00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.019
get to participate in that now and that's great

00:39:45.019 --> 00:39:48.280
news. We get to actually journey through life

00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:52.099
with God and that's the actual point of forgiveness.

00:39:52.539 --> 00:39:55.940
So would you join me in praying? Father, I thank

00:39:55.940 --> 00:39:58.039
you for your great story. I thank you for all

00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.780
the parts and pieces to it that reveal your character.

00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:05.079
This morning as the prayer team was praying and

00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.900
they... They sensed you calling us to have a

00:40:08.900 --> 00:40:12.699
single -heartedness. As Jesus says, the pure

00:40:12.699 --> 00:40:17.480
of heart. That we would be so fixated on the

00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:19.739
fact that we are journeying through life with

00:40:19.739 --> 00:40:23.440
you, God, that we don't shy away from the very

00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:25.420
difficult journey of reconciliation, but that

00:40:25.420 --> 00:40:29.119
we participate in that. And we do so with you

00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:33.519
each step of the way. You are a holy God. completely

00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:35.920
set apart, completely different from any other

00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.260
way of trying to solve the difficulties in the

00:40:38.260 --> 00:40:40.619
world around us and in our own lives. And we

00:40:40.619 --> 00:40:44.320
look to you and we say, holy, holy, holy, you

00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:46.860
are the one that we cling to and we long to be

00:40:46.860 --> 00:40:48.760
with and thank you that we can be with you now.

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We pray this in the precious, wonderful name

00:40:50.840 --> 00:41:00.099
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