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Welcome to ECB's weekly sermon podcast. ECB is

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an international church in Bangkok, Thailand,

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with dozens of nationalities worshiping together.

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We invite you to connect with us from wherever

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you are through our website ecb .asia or our

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mobile app. And now we pray that you are blessed

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by this week's sermon. Good morning, ECB. It

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is... Great to be here on this commissioning

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day for commissioning Pastor Pablo and to his

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new role as lead pastor at ECB. Pastor Pablo

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and I actually share the same birth country of

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Chile, and we grew up in the same city there

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in Santiago. But more importantly, we share the

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same eternal home. So it is an honor to share

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God's word with you this morning. Today I hope

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to leave you with an invitation. Transitions

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are usually pretty challenging, and so I also

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want to thank Pastor Rene for listening to the

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Spirit and following God's leading and for your

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desire to pass the baton well in this transition

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here at ECB. So thank you. I'd like to start

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out the journey, the sermon this morning, looking

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at the transitions in John 14, 25 through 29.

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But before we do that, let's pray. Lord, we come

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before you with grateful hearts. Thank you for

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the opportunity to commission Pablo today. We

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pray that you would guide in all the details

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of this leadership transition here at ECB. We

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pray that as we look at your word, that you would

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speak to our hearts today, to our hearts, and

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that you would draw our hearts to you. In Jesus'

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holy name, amen. John 14, verses 25 through 29.

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These things I have spoken to you. While I am

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still with you, but the Helper, the Holy Spirit,

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whom the Father will send in my name, he will

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teach you all things and bring to your remembrance

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all that I have said to you. Peace I leave with

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you. My peace I give you, not as the world gives

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do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled,

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neither let them be afraid. You heard me say

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to you, I am going away and I will come to you.

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If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because

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I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater

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than I. And now I have told you before it takes

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place, so that when it does take place, you may

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believe. We have the scene here in the upper

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room just as the disciples and Jesus have finished

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the Last Supper and they're about to leave when

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Jesus announces that there will be a transition.

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There will be a new way that the disciples will

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experience the Trinity. They have had Jesus face

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to face for a while, but now the Father is going

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to send them the Holy Spirit who is going to

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teach them and remind them of what Jesus has

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told them. If you were to read a little bit further

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in chapter 16, you would see that the disciples

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are not fully understanding what is going on,

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and their hearts are probably feeling some fear

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and anxiety in this transition. ECB is an international

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church, and so most likely all of you have experienced

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transition and can relate to fear and anxiety.

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Maybe even in the midst of this transition between

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Pastor Rene and Pastor Pablo, you may experience

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some anxiety, maybe even some fear. So I want

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you to get a glimpse of Jesus' character in this

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transition in John 14. He's about to go to the

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cross, which we'll be celebrating soon. He's

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about to go to the cross. And what is on his

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mind in verse 27? That his disciples will experience

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peace and that their hearts would not be troubled.

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That they would not be afraid. In fact, in verse

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28, he even longs for them to have joy. For as

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he is going to his father's house, the eternal

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perspective, he wants them to have joy. And in

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verse 29, he invites them to have faith. And

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now I have told you, before it takes place, so

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that when it does take place, you may believe.

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Have faith. The scene just before Jesus goes

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to the Garden of Gethsemane, just before he is

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about to be arrested, what does Jesus say to

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the disciples? I am inviting you to trust me

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with an unshakable faith. I want you to have

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the kind of peace that I give, not the kind that

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the world offers, that's a substitute that won't

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last. The kind of joy that I give, not the type

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that the world offers, that is a temporary high.

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The kind of faith that I give. Not that the world

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offers that will bring disappointment. This is

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good news. In the midst of transition, Jesus

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is offering peace, joy, and faith all through

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his sacrificial love. Now, the invitation to

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faith has always been a tough one for me. I like

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to control outcomes much more than I like to

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trust. Maybe you're with me on that. In fact,

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most of my prayers are about praying not to have

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to trust. Lord, if you would just solve this

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problem, dot, dot, dot, then I wouldn't have

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to trust you. Lord, if you would just provide

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financially, dot, dot, dot, then I wouldn't have

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to trust you. Lord, could you just make it so

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I don't have to trust you? So my prayers are

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always trying to not have to trust God. But the

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invitation from the Father is always to trust.

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to believe, to have faith. For that is what the

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relationship with Him is built upon. Years ago,

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in my early 30s, coming out of corporate America

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where I worked for United Airlines, I transitioned

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into ministry. I brought many corporate ideas

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with me into ministry and even wrote a thesis

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suggesting metrics for determining ministry success.

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Talk about not wanting to trust. Mission organizations

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were interested in being able to track and determine

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success in ministry. And I was busy creating

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systems, some of which simplified and some of

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which complicated the very thing that God was

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doing. I like efficiency and organizing. And

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I've come to find out that God is just not as

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interested in efficiency and organizing as I

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would like him to be. Jesus, who on his way to

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the cross with his disciples. In the midst of

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transition is offering peace, joy, and faith

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in an upside down and non -intuitive way. And

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there it was in the middle of all my striving

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and organizing ministry to make my life work

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apart from God. Yes, you heard that right. I

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was using ministry to make my life work apart

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from God. But that's for a different message.

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In the midst of my striving, God got a hold of

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my life. in a way I'd never known. And he brought

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me face to face with a gospel I knew but had

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never lived. The gospel had become a system for

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me of checks and balances and not a life of faith.

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God invited me into some very tough years of

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processing my own childhood wounding, my own

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story of my childhood sexual abuse, which I had

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buried deep into my heart for no one to touch.

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And then God invited me to a more challenging

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task, to process my own waywardness out of my

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wounding and how I had created a life around

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me to keep me safe and that my very strategies

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for survival deeply hurt the people closest to

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me. I was doing more for Jesus, but I was not

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becoming more like Jesus. So as you, ECB, began

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this year going through Treasures of the Journey

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series, I would like to share three treasures

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in my journey that I hope will encourage you

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as a congregation and you, Pastor Pablo, as you

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step into the role of lead pastor here at ECB.

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Then I'll close with an invitation for each of

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you. Treasure number one, learning to live from

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my identity rather than for my identity. One

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of the biggest shifts in my own heart as I began

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to really grow in the gospel was learning to

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live from God rather than for God. You see, because

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of my wounding, I believed in the God that was

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always disappointed in me. And I had learned

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so much in my church life that I was to live

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for God and that I must perform for his acceptance.

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And in all my ministry leadership, I was performing,

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trying to make God pleased with me so that my

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life would work. Do you hear the exhaustion?

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The issue is that living for God makes me the

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initiator of life. And God is the only initiator

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of life. He breathed life into Adam. And I am

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designed to be a receiver of life, which requires

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humility and surrender. And those are not words

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that I'm accustomed to living out of. The invitation

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from the Father is to live from God. Throughout

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scripture, God has already given us many banners

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of identity, such as loved, delighted in, significant,

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adopted, chosen, righteous, and many more. These

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are banners of identity who I already am as a

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believer. Can I begin to trust God with who he

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says I am? Most of us spend our lives living

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for these things, chasing after these things,

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not from these things. When I live for significance,

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I will run around and prove my worth and I will

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make you prove yours. When I live from significance

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in Jesus, I can actually meet you where you are

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and walk with you on this journey of faith. The

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same holds true for if I live for being delighted

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in. I'll run around seeking the eyes of people,

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TikTok, Instagram. Whereas when I live from being

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delighted in Jesus, I actually have the capacity

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to delight in others. The incredible shift in

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my heart changes the way I approach every day,

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every conversation, every task. It makes me a

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funnel for the work of God, for the Spirit of

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God in and through me. It unblocks the channel

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so He can do His work. Here's the issue. A simple

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definition of ministry is holding these banners

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of identity over someone else. The problem is

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that you cannot hold the banner of identity over

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someone else if you can't hold it over yourself.

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If your banner is over you, don't say loved,

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delighted in, adopted, righteous. then you have

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no capacity to hold that over someone else. The

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other problem is that the banners that you do

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hold over yourself, which are usually banners

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of contempt, hatred, that might say, I'm a disappointment,

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I'm too much, I'm not enough, then I will hold

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those banners over someone else. So now there

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is a reason that we struggle to believe our identity

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in Christ. Because our woundedness will always

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lead to our waywardness. So the invitation for

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today is can I begin to trust the Father with

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whom he already says I am loved, delighted in,

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child of God, justified? Can I begin to trust

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the Father with who he already says I am as a

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believer and begin to live from my identity?

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instead of for my identity. Second treasure,

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learning to trust God to write the impact stories

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of my life rather than turning good desires into

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required goals for more impact. Another shift

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in my heart has been learning to actually desire,

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learning to go after the dreams and hopes that

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God has put in me. The issue is that as I begin

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to engage with desire, I often feel pain. And

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so subconsciously, I turn my desires into goals

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so I can achieve success and feel better about

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myself. While it may be a great desire, it may

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be a terrible goal. For example, my wife loves

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gifts. And 30 years ago, we had just been married.

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We were celebrating her birthday for the first

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time as a married couple. I had a great desire

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to pick out just the right gift for her. What

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I thought was a beautiful dress. Don't worry,

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I didn't get her a blender. I thought a beautiful

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dress would be the perfect gift. And I bought

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this dress. It was plaid green and blue with

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a bow on it. And my desire was for her to really

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enjoy this dress. But once I purchased it and

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spent the money on it, my desire quickly turned

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into a goal. Now she has to enjoy the dress.

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The issue is that my wife now becomes an obstacle

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or an asset to my goal, and it places an unfair

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demand on her to enjoy the dress. Let's just

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say my goal was not achieved when she returned

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the dress. When I turn desires into goals, the

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people in between me and the goal suddenly become

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assets or obstacles to the goal's success. People

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are never meant to be assets or obstacles. This

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happens all the time in ministry. Many years

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ago, our family arrived in Romania and I began

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working with a Romanian ministry. I had a desire

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that God would raise up Romanian ministry leaders.

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Then I turned it into a goal, not only a goal,

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a ministry goal. And I was going to invest in

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them and they would help me achieve my ministry

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goals. Did you know that people are not always

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interested in being an investment? but prefer

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being in a relationship? Again, the issue is

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now these Romanian leaders had to become obstacles

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or assets to me achieving my ministry goals.

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The very people I had desired for God to raise

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up now became obstacles to my goals' success,

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all because I wanted to write the impact story

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instead of trusting God that He is the only one

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that really gets to write the impact story. So

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the invitation, can I trust the Father with my

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desire without turning it into a goal, demanding

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that I get to write the impact story, or even

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discard desire, get rid of desire, because I'm

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unwilling to sit with Jesus in the pain of unmet

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desire. Which brings us to treasure number three,

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learning to go to God and experience His presence.

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rather than going through God to get the outcome

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I want. Finally, I want to encourage all of you

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as you dream of what God will do with ECB in

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the years to come to see God as the answer and

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not use God for the answer. We tend to add spiritual

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language to our requests to go through God as

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if he were a little genie and we had to get the

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outcome that we want rather than going to God,

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period. This past October, my wife and I were

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in Nairobi, Kenya, when we received a call that

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our 23 -year -old daughter, who is at the university,

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Karina, was in the hospital ICU completely unable

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to use her legs or move anything from the waist

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down. You can imagine our distress and our longing

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for God's work and healing in her body. We flew

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to the U .S. where she was. It was devastating

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to walk to that hospital room. She was paralyzed

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from the waist down. We spent 30 days in the

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hospital with her. We cried out to God to heal

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our daughter, just fix her. We eventually had

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to come face to face that we were more interested

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in what God would do with our daughter than his

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promised presence and comfort. In the situation.

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So often we use God to get the outcomes we hope

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for. But following Jesus means we get God. We

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get his comfort and presence in the middle of

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the worst circumstances or nightmares. But so

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often we don't value the presence of God. We

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just need him to fix our situation. Isaiah 43

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says, Fear not, for I have redeemed you. I have

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called you by name. You are mine. When you pass

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through the waters, I will be with you. And through

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the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you. When

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you walk through the fire, you shall not be burned.

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And the flame shall not consume you. For I am

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the Lord your God, the Holy One of Israel, your

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Savior. And our response is, I don't need your

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presence, God. How about you take some of that

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water and put out the fire? God, I just need

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you to get me out of pain or come through with

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me when we are asking. Come through what I'm

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asking you. Please make my daughter walk again.

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So the invitation, can I trust the Father with

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his presence even when the ground is shaking

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beneath our feet as it did this week in Bangkok?

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Can I experience his comfort, his presence in

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the midst of my pain instead of demanding that

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he fix my situation? So as we return to the upper

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room in the midst of transition in John 14 verse

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27, Jesus says, peace I leave you. My peace I

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give to you, not as the world gives do I give

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it to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither

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let them be afraid. In the midst of transition,

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fear and anxiety, can I trust the Father? Not

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to fix or get the outcomes I want, but to experience

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His peace, presence, and comfort. So as we close,

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I just want to give a charge to Pastor Pablo

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and to each of you. It has been a privilege to

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Pastor Pablo. It has been a privilege to sit

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under your teaching. Pastor Pablo, one of the

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things I appreciate the most about you is your

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compassion. I also appreciate not only your heart,

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that people know about God, but that your heart,

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that people actually know God. You create a space

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for people to share their hearts as you share

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your heart. And you set the stage for God to

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do His work. One of the biggest things the enemy

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could do to derail you, It's to attack your identity.

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To attack your identity. To invite you to live

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for significance rather than from significance.

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To live for these banners rather than live from

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these banners. These things that God has already

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named you. My prayer for you, Pastor Pablo, will

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be to stand under these banners, trusting the

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Father with who he says you are as you lead ECB.

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To Pastor Pablo, the elders and ministry leaders

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at ECB, in just a few chapters after John 14,

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we come to John 17, where Jesus is now in the

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Garden of Gethsemane. In John 17, Jesus gives

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us his prayer. And it says, this is right before

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he goes to the cross, it says, to the glory that

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you have given me, I have given to them that

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they may be one even as you are one. I in them

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and you in me that they may become perfectly

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one so that the world may know that you sent

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me and love them even as you loved me. One of

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Jesus' greatest prayers for us is our ability

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to relate to one another as the Trinity relates

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to one another to put his love on display. What

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God wants to transform in us is greater than

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we've ever imagined. He wants to transform the

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very way we relate. So for those of you on church

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leadership working together and hoping for what

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God will do here at ECB, I would encourage you

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not to turn your desire for ECB into goals. As

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soon as you start seeing each other as assets

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or obstacles to the success of the mission, you

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won't walk with each other and love each other

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and relate to each other like the Father, Son,

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and Holy Spirit relate. And just to clarify,

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this is not about avoiding conflict or living

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without rupture in relationship. There will be

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rupture. The question is that can we trust the

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Father and receive the gifts of repentance and

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forgiveness to move towards that repair? How

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things progress here at ECB matter and how you

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care for each other and love each other in the

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process says a lot about what God is doing in

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your hearts and lives. May you never replace

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what the Spirit is doing at ECB. with strategies

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and goals. To the congregation, you are in a

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season of transition. There will be a new season.

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There will be new systems here at ECB. There

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will be changes. When you experience pain in

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those changes, may your heart not move to getting

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stuck in statements about the way it used to

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be, but may you surrender that space in your

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heart to the Father and bow on your knee as a

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receiver of life where the source of life comes

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from, God himself. My prayer for you is that

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you can trust what God says about you, that you

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are his and that you will experience his presence

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and love in the midst of transition, and that

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you will actually have the capacity to be present

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with each other and to love well. And finally,

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to the children and teens at ECB on this Family

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Sunday, do you know that you are not created

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to be perfect? You don't have to perfectly play

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the violin, piano, and be on the swim team by

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the second grade. You will face struggle, but

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in your struggle, you are created worthy of love

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and belonging. My prayer for you is that while

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you are here at ECB, you will have curiosity

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and courage to explore the wonderful uniquenesses

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of how God made you and be reminded of his great

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love for you. And to those who don't know this

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Jesus, the one who can offer such peace. Jesus,

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the one who says in the midst of all your mess,

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in the midst of all your dysfunction, I'm staying.

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When everybody else leaves the room, I'm not

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going anywhere. I am staying. I have come that

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you may have life. My prayer for you is that

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you will talk to someone today to get to know

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the one named Jesus who knows how to love perfectly.

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Let's pray. We thank you, Lord, for your gift

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on the cross, that you took all of our sin and

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gave us all of your righteousness. We thank you

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that there is nothing that can separate us from

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your love. We thank you for Pastor Rene's leadership

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over these past years, and we thank you for Pastor

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Pablo being willing to step into the role as

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lead pastor at ECB. We pray that you will bless

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him and his family in this role. We pray, most

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importantly, that you will give him faith. And

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all of us... who believe in you, faith to trust

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you that with who you already say we are, deeply

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loved, significant, delighted in, in your hands,

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and on our worst day, we are wrapped in your

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robe of righteousness. In the wonderful name

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of Jesus, amen. Thank you for tuning in to the

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