Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode
of Per Sessions Wrestling Podcast. I'm your host,
the main of main, Big Cat Tyler Adams. When you
can catch the show live every Friday, 9 p .m.
Eastern Standard Time. Of course, I'm here with
Dylan Nix, the nautical nightmare. The one that
decides that, hey, I'm the only one that's going
to show up, I guess. Yeah, fuck them all. Apparently.
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first splash. We are also live on Rumble because
we decided to do that because we sometimes take
the show to Rumble only. Just because you take
the Rumble kid. The Guerrero and the Debray and
the thing. The Hooyah kid. You know what I'm
saying? Yeah. I don't know if we'll do that tonight.
We'll see. Depends on how short the show is.
Cause there's not a lot of news. It's all focused
on John Cena today. Um, but yeah, uh, uh, I was
gonna say, I almost wore my John Cena t -shirt
tonight, but I was like, no, I'll save it for
tomorrow. I'm going over to a friend's place.
We're going to watch the, uh, the Saturday night's
main event. Do you know what's that? What's that?
Cause we would all be at the dojo on tomorrow
watching. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what
it is. Yeah. That's what it is. i've heard rumors
i've heard rumors there's rumors floating there
in the ethers out in the ethers rumors that there
may be a new dojo happening after the new year
so i don't know i've also heard rumors as well
i've given i've given randy um some places because
he's talking because there's been multiple talks
about The biggest problem about running now in
Maine is not only that you there's no there's
a hard place for to get the dojo because insurance
wise. Yeah. At the same time, all these buildings
are starting to close and not allow wrestling
and or they're asking higher prices that make
sure you have insurance. So it costs a lot of
money, especially limitless. Even though they
bring in a lot, they're always literally sold
out. It still costs quite a bit. Yeah, I mean,
I can't talk tonight. Kids, it's been a hell
of a week. We'll say it that way. Anyway, I mean,
yeah, sure, you're selling out with like 200,
say 200 people, right? But you're bringing in
some of these big names. They're not cheap, man.
You're dropping a couple dollars to bring in
some of the people you bring in. And you got
to pay those guys. And yeah, you may have sponsors
and stuff. And that's great. But at the same
point. you're still going to pay the bills in
the long run. So it ends up being like not cheap.
It's not cheap. We're going to talk about more
Limitless later on because it's been quite a
few surprises. But yeah, I've shown like I've
given Randy some buildings actually that not
only possibly that could run the dojo but also
run shows if you wanted to. I was really sad.
the space where the dojo was was nice it was
it was tight as heck and there's the interruption
um it was tight as heck but i mean it worked
for us you know it didn't have to be a giant
place the only thing that would have been nice
is we actually had a bigger space to have like
maybe like a gym to you know have like the workout
space like i see some of the yeah and and the
always the talk has been the reason why the the
dojo was never in id school was because of space
yeah because there's nothing you can't do. You
can't do anything in that, basically. I mean,
we filmed Mojo at the Dojo there, and we filmed
Pandemic at the Dojo there. which is cool, but
it's not really space to do like fans or anything.
You know, there's 30 fans. We always complain
about not being able to do like dives, work on
dives and shit like that because there was no
room for anything. Yeah, if we tried to do a
dive and we fucked it up, we'd end up in Randy's
lap. Right, exactly. I did that on an elimination
go to the top rope once. I went over right, but
my feet kicked a little too far and my heel hit
the table on the way down. Bang! Randy's like,
motherfucker! You can't beat Hess, though. Oh,
Jesus. What did Hess do? When Hess did an up
and over with, I think it was with Jason Maverick,
he slipped off the top and went through, almost
through the wall. Oh, Jesus. I think they had
to fix it. And cat has children, folks. If you're
not watching live, this was happening. Every
night. Yeah. I don't know why it is an issue
every night. Well, it's because you're doing
something. And see, I have a four -legged child
called the dog. And I'm not even joking. I get
home at 5 o 'clock. We feed them. I sit down.
And the minute I sit down and get comfortable,
he whines to go outside every time. He won't
do it before I sit down. No, he'll do it the
minute I sit down and get comfortable and start
whining. I'm like, really, you little motherfucker?
He's mad at me because I put on Moana, which
is his nighttime routine. And he doesn't want
to go to bed at almost 9 o 'clock at night. Bro,
I want to go to bed. Yeah. Like I said, it's
been a hell of a week. I'm drinking a beer because
that's been the type of weekend. I got two of
these fuckers. I might drink both of them tonight.
I don't know. Let's see what happens. Let's go
wild. I definitely restocked my fridge. I got
tons of beer now. That was the one thing I was
like. I do have a window, though, and I'm thinking
to put a box on the side and just open the window.
It's cold enough. Yeah, it's cold enough now.
We're in Maine. Another thing I wanted to discuss,
too, before we got into everything. um about
the sad news that we got uh we found out yesterday
uh sadly that uh christopher uh perry passed
away barry sorry you said barry i know i did
i'm sorry barry it's all right passed away um
very sad news he was part of uh main wrestling
uh for 20 years it was i believe yeah maybe longer
than that i remember primer I think Primer put
a post out there that's saying Barry had been
around as long or longer than he has. So Primer's
been around for a couple minutes. I know Ben
said something too, same thing, that he's been
around for ever and a day. So, yeah. Yeah. He
was basically brought up with cleats. Yep. Joey,
not Jason. Yeah, Joey, not Jason. And, of course,
Greenleaf was helped train by them. So it's very
sad. I actually grabbed some stuff from Facebook
about people saying some stuff about him. So
as you pull that up, I'll tell a quick one. Probably
the funniest Barry moments I've ever had almost
every match. And I'm talking every match I've
ever been in that Barry has been my ref. First
of all, Barry's great. He'll come up to you.
What's the finish? That's all he wants to know.
He doesn't care about anything else. You just
give me the finish. But I can't tell you how
many times I've got to do something like hit
the ropes or do something like that. And I'm
like, Barry, move. He's running out of the way.
And he'll laugh every time he does it, too. I
think he started doing it to fuck with me at
some point. He's like, I know he's going to go
that way. Right. So this is straight from Limitless.
This is the first one. We're saddened to learn
the passing of the longtime main referee. uh
chris berry uh for for more than 20 years chris
to get it so much of his time heart and passion
to this scene sending love to all who know him
rest in easy chris yeah straight from randy carver
um yeah it's uh it's uh it's it's gotten a lot
of people it's sad and i think he lost his was
his wife like a few years ago that was laura
uh two years ago i think it was he lost her And
I was at that show and we had a show dedicated
to Laura and we, if a bunch of us, oh, that was
that show. I think that was the Seawolves and
Christian Nickerson versus roadblock Tommy Lane
and Ryan, Ryan London. Let's not talk anymore
about that. Then we have to anyway. Yeah, I know.
Yeah. This is from Tree P. Rest in peace. Christopher
Berry, one of the greatest referees in Maine.
The referee gods have taken you home. We rest
easy with your wife, Laura, and Joey Gleets.
Hopefully, Joey can teach you how to count to
three finally. We love you. Thank you all for
the amazing memories of my matches. Cancer sucks.
I don't know. Barry always could count three
in my matches. I just wasn't always the one.
getting the three count. Sometimes I was the
one getting the three count. Johnny Torres even
came out and said when I was regularly wrestling
in Maine many years ago, Christopher Berry was
a part of that referee crew that showed up to
all Maine alongside the late Joey Gleets. Always
wanted to know how he could be best. Keep talking.
I just realized who that is in the ring. I always
know how he can be the best served in the match.
One of the good guys always shows up for limitless
shows to lend his support and to say hello. Enjoy
the shot of Chris on the upwards end of Jeremy
Larry Body Slam. That's Jeremy Larry. I've worked
him, actually. Fun guy to work. I have a Scotty
Wilde on the ring apron looking up. It's just
a really short -haired, younger Scotty Wilde.
No. Adam Ricker. Rest in peace, Lord. This is
from 2023. That's 2023. Sorry. Wrong one. I pulled
the wrong clip. I'm sorry. Alexander Lee. Christopher
Russell. Well, my man. It was a pleasure to get
to know you and have you in my life as a ref.
Moreover, as a friend, these last 20 years was
this odd, wild, bizarre hobby we had. Tell Captain
Griff, Mark, and Joey what's up for me. Yes.
I think that was it. We clicked in the next thing.
No, Barry was always one of those guys. He was
always fun, man. It's just like, I'm really sad.
You know, it's like, and seeing Ben Alexander
Lee post too. It's like, we've lost a lot of
our brothers over the last couple of years, man.
Yeah. It's starting to get there. It's starting
to like, I've only been doing this six years,
you know, and it's like, I've seen enough. of
my brethren and friends and compatriots pass
away in the last six years. I'm already a little
sick of it, you know, and I can only imagine
guys that have been doing it longer than me,
you know? And so, yeah, Chris Berry, uh, Barry,
Joey Gleets and myself were the glue, the nucleus
of main wrestling referee for my first eight
years or so. These two helped mold me. I do this
because I love it. Um, but also to honor them.
I miss Joey every day. Now, not knowing Chris
is also gone. It has a tough day. Somebody bubble
wrap green leaf. Yeah. I'm being, I'm being,
I'm being partly serious, man. I just, you know,
it's like I said, greenies, greenies, one of
the boys, he's part of the family and I don't
want to see anything happen. So I had one for,
from Ricker, but apparently you might, I think
that was the, that was the Laura one. That was
the Laura one. I thought I deleted that two years
ago. So three. Almost three now, actually. I
deleted the wrong one, I think, and I'm not going
to go look for it. But Adam Ricker had some words.
Basically, everybody in Maine has had some words.
You know, some sad words about it. And it does
suck because I know Barry, too. I didn't know
him as much as everybody else did. No, Barry
was always, like I said, he was always one. Have
a conversation with him. Yeah, he was always
one, too. Like, he'd come up, he'd be like. you
know, Hey Andy, how you doing? I'm like, Hey
Barry, how you doing? But other, he's like, I'm
doing good. Feels tired. Like last few times
I saw him too. It was like, you know, you could
tell he wasn't feeling up. It wasn't feeling
great. And, um, you saw a couple of those posts,
fuck cancer, cancer sucks, fuck cancer. Um, you
know, like, man, I've lost too many friends to
cancer at this point. Honestly, kind of sick
of it. Um, Barry had, I think it's stomach cancer.
If I remember correctly, I don't want to quote
myself and be wrong. um so yeah just and unfortunately
i think losing laura then he gets sick and just
just everything you know he was every time i
saw him it was good to see him you know because
barry i was sick not sick however down he felt
the minute he put on those stripes he was he
was rf and he would go out there and you know
we never If we knew Barry was like the last year,
especially if we knew Barry was our ref, we wouldn't
do a spot where we're getting down, up, down,
up, down, up, down, up for him. We'd, we'd, we'd
keep the match simple, but it was still fun to
have him out there with us, you know? And he
loved being out there with us. You could tell,
you could tell he was super happy to be out there
with the boys doing the thing and, you know,
yelling at us, yelling at Beavis. Right. Get
him out of the corner. Barry, I know how to count.
Right. Exactly. But that also said, do the fun
stuff. That leads us to Limitless Rumble. Oh,
yeah. Jeez, that is getting me like a stat card
now. Yeah, I know. I was joking. I'm like, I'm
not doing anything that day. I'm not getting
in that now. Yeah. Well, it's just, you know,
sadly. I'll show up and bring my gear. That's
what I always do. Yeah, right. That's all I can
say. I don't see myself in that. Last minute
cancels. You know what? It's limitless. I wouldn't
expect to be in it, honestly. If I get it, cool.
Randy's going to bring the heat. It's the Coliseum.
It's at the Coliseum, right? Yeah, it's the Coliseum.
It's the Coliseum. And, man, yeah, that's going
to be a banger. I might go and just hang out
and watch again. Maybe we'll do Per Sessions
live again because that was fun as hell. I wouldn't
mind it. I don't know if we can get a table,
though. Did you ask Randy? I didn't even know
that was even an option to ask, honestly. Brother,
we did it last time. This isn't the same thing,
though. This is not their anniversary. I mean,
I could ask. You don't know if you don't ask.
I'll ask him. Yeah, I wouldn't mind doing per
sessions again. Yeah. Hell yeah for it Especially
with the people that we know we're gonna be there
now. Yeah So let me fun as hell. So we just got
this two hours ago. I saw that Yeah, that Ortiz
will be returning alongside Eddie Kingston Yes,
the Eddie Kingston for me. Yo, yo at the 2026
Limitless Rumble on Friday, January 16th. Yep.
That is crazy. Mm -hmm. Especially getting Eddie
Kingston. Yeah, dude, that's cool as hell. I
know AEW guys are allowed to go and do extra
stuff. Yeah, but it's still as cool as hell,
though. I'm thinking he's a main... part of the
main roster. I'm honestly surprised he was able
to do this. Did I lose you? No, I'm still here.
I'm just responding to someone. I tried to write
Dink and I wrote Dick by accident. I tried to
be a mannequin, right? Dink. I fucking hit the
wrong button. Get some coffee down in the docks,
eh? I turned over the meter there halfway through
that. Anyway. He has more than one main accent.
We got Eddie Kingston coming in, which is crazy.
We got both Jordan Oliver and Alec Price will
be in there. Those are huge belts. Alec's not
small, and that belt is ginormous on him. Also,
it's been reported, I don't know who has it,
but the WWID title will be defended. What is
her name? It's a girl. It's one of the girls.
Hold on. Let's see if I can find it. While you're
looking at that, we're going to get Dijak versus
Bufa, which will be fucking awesome. Part of
the Limbless Rumble, the entry we have. Oh, here
it is. Oh, right there. Oh, did you find it?
Yeah, okay. I was like, oh, this looks like her.
Lena Luck? Is that what her name is? Lainey Luck,
I think. Lainey Luck. Is it Lainey or Lena? I
mean, if you looked at your screen right now,
you'd see. Go up a little bit, Baka. Lainey.
Don't you dare. Don't you fucking call me Baka,
you piece of shit. Baka, Baka, Baka. That was
Nico. It used to be a thing. Nico, Nico, Nico.
You can't speak English, but you can fucking
speak Japanese, barely. Apparently, uh, Nico,
Nico, Nico was one thing. And somebody said that
in a, in a, uh, live chat on like Xbox and the
guy responded like, you don't shut the fuck up.
I'm going to break your Nico, Nico kneecaps.
Ah, freaking drain Marbury. Cool. Yeah. I wonder
if, uh, I wonder if we got it. We're going to
basketball will be in the costume. Yo, speaking
of that, a really fun side, side note. I was
watching TV the other day, and all of a sudden
I hear, we're playing basketball. It's the music,
which is from Mike. I'm sitting there, and I
looked up, and I'm like, am I watching a Limitless
show? Is Jermaine Marbury on my TV? It was a
commercial for something with basketball in it,
but it just made me laugh. We got Ryan Clancy.
Is that what it is? Ryan Clancy. Clancy, Ryan
Clancy. Yes, sir. independent wrestling world
champion, which is a big fucking deal. This card
is fucking stacked. Beef is coming back. He's
been doing some art. Did Hill and Levi work their
match? I don't think it ever happened, honestly.
No, fucking Levi. I don't know if he'd come on
the show occasionally. Yeah, I know. You're asking
these questions. I think, I don't know if it
was supposed to be with Primo's, and I don't
think he's working for Primo's anymore. I'm not
100 % sure. I'll rock my main Nordiques hoodie.
If anyone orders the black hoodie I wear to the
ring, it says Nordiques on it. It's from the
main Nordiques. That's where they play. That's
where I got the jersey. It's actually a game
-worn jersey. It's got puck scars on it. It's
a goalie jersey. If you wonder what a puck scar
is, it's the black marks pucks leave when they
hit numbers. J -Haroo? J -Haroo in the rumble?
which probably means Agra will be also in the
Rumble. Agra's in too, yeah. They announced Agra
a while back. Let's see. What else? Just trying
to see if they have anything else. But, yeah,
Bear Bronson. Oh, yeah. I mean, his official
DNA debut. I forgot about that. But he'll probably
be in the Rumble, let's be honest. Friend of
the show, Bear Bronson? Yeah. There's Agra right
there. Let's see. Good luck. Oh, it's time to
wake up. Uh -oh. I'm awake. It's 9 o 'clock.
What are you talking about? Dude. Fucking the
last Ring Wars. Not the last one, but the one
before that. I'm sorry. I keep forgetting that
it's on. I have it on to make sure that I'm awake
for the podcast. Who else? Me and Sam, I think
me and Sam, we're like, how the fuck do we shut
this thing off? So we ended up burying it in
your bag at the bottom under, like, a bunch of
shit. I'm sorry. So Beef, Clancy, Gabby, of course.
Gabby. Aaron Rourke. Aaron Rourke. Hazard. Haz.
Two, three. D -A -S -S -A -C -D -E -C. I'm sure
that Ace Romero will be there. I'm sure. But,
yeah, freaking stacked. Yeah, yeah. Stacked.
I'm looking forward to it. Ah, Rich Palandino.
I like Rich. Rich is a good dude. Who do you
think is going to win the Rumble? Who's going
to win the Rumble? I am, of course. No, I'm kidding.
Don't get me wrong. I will be honest. I've been
in a dozen Rumbles, maybe more. I think I've
won one, and that was actually for Vacationland
way back in the day. Book me for Rumbles, guys.
I like Rumbles. I don't care if I win them or
not. I just like doing them. Most of the time,
I will suplex the bejesus out of everyone that
comes in the ring near me because it's what I
do. But no, who's going to win, man? Who's got
that dog in them is really what it is. Haz has
a good chance of winning it. He's proven more
than once to be versatile, for one, and tough
as nails. Did it say Bear was in it? No, I was
just saying that he had a teenage debut. I'm
assuming he's in there. Gabby's in it. She could
eat some people out the ring. Man, I don't have
a good choice until I see the whole lineup. Agro
might surprise the hell out of everyone. He's
shown more than once that he can go the distance.
Channing might be one that's in there. Channing
might be in there. I don't know. There's so many
good choices. pick someone to say that they're
going to be the winner. I've got, I've got a
list I could choose from. I got a list of like
10. I, you know, any of these 10 people would
not surprise me. And here's the thing. It's a
rumble. Anything can happen. We almost saw Santino
Morella win the Royal rumble one year. In fact,
the way the crowd was going that year, you should
have, but yeah. So we never know what's going
to happen in rumbles. Heck. We saw, you know,
what was his name? God, he's hanging out with
the Miz. Alex Riley. The year that he was supposed
to eliminate himself by accident. Yeah. You know
the reason why he got done? Yeah, he got demoted.
Dude, he was so good. Yeah. He pissed John Cena
off. Yeah, yeah. But no, it's like you never
know who's going to win these things until you
see everyone in there. And, you know, heck, if
Ace is in it, Ace might win it. So we don't know.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to
it. Yeah. Now I got to contact Randy. I mean,
I'll be honest. I'm not going to watch the Royal
Rumble this year. So at least he'll give me a
rumble. Yeah. Sorry, I'm not paying money to
watch Saudi blood money. No, I don't care if
this gets kicked off YouTube. It's just I'm not
watching the Rumble. I do. Yes, I know. I don't
want to be kicked off YouTube. I'm not watching
the Royal Rumble if it's in Saudi Arabia. I will
not give Saudi Arabia money. I know I'm probably
in some way giving them money. I'm feeling my
cart full of gas probably gives them money. I
get that. I was going to say, yeah. It's the
little thing I can do in the moment. I'll watch
the Rumble later down the road. I'll watch it
on TikTok. Like I did the last episode of My
Hero Academia today at lunch. I was like, oh,
my hero. It's like the whole last battle. I won't
spoil anything for people who haven't seen it.
It's the whole last battle. I'm like, oh, this
is cool. I thought it was just going to be a
two to three minute clip. It was a ten minute
clip. It was half the episode. I sat there watching
it on my phone the whole time. It was good. I
liked it. I got to catch up. I'm a season behind.
I think I got to... I think I'm a season behind
as well. read the comics. I mean, that comic's
a manga, so. The what? The manga. Manga. Manga.
Whatever. Everybody says it differently. You
can say manga, too. That's fine. It's manga.
But speaking of this weekend, yeah, we had a
fucking crazy weekend. Oh, my God. Didn't we
ever? IWE Friday. Yeah. Well, you had IWE Friday.
I had IWE Friday. You had Genos. JP had Genos
and IWE. Yeah. that explains that that could
explain some things yeah yeah and then we had
uh mpw which was the last second thing on saturday
yeah that became a little bit wild uh no pun
intended so so i'll explain so friday night for
me i'll start with it i'll start there um i went
to geno's and of course geno's rock club is always
a freaking blast so i got there and let it's
larry you never know what you're doing there
he's like i walk in and um Larry's like, oh,
you're going to work a tag match. It's going
to be you and Teddy Jacks. He's a kid from, not
NEPWA, one of those schools down there, versus
MBK and Lee Miller. And I was like, oh, okay.
I don't care. Then it's like, oh, no, no, no.
It's going to be a six -man match now. It's going
to be you, Teddy Jacks, and ZPB. Like, okay,
that's a weird combination. Versus Lee Miller.
mbk and um jp o'reilly i went okay so we had
a fun little match it was about it was like eight
minutes it was six of us we were just being stupid
uh zpb and i did the macarena didn't then did
an elbow shot i was like what the they popped
huge i love genos man it's so fun or genos it's
such an easy crowd too Oh, man. I got to go out
there. Queen, get to play. It was a great time.
We had a fun time. I had IWE. I faced John the
Bomb. It was all right. I was mostly there for
the moment. I got to be in IWE. Yeah, I'm jealous.
You got to be in IWE, and I didn't. The only
reason why I got into IWE is because John the
Bomb asked me. John wanted to work me. That's
the only reason why. And I appreciate it, John.
Thank you. No, dude, that's legit. That's fucking
cool. Seriously. Like I said, I got to sit. I
sat down. If you go to Cityside, where they used
to be, I sat in the far corner. You remember
where music was in Cityside? There's chairs right
in front of music on that far wall. And I got
to sit there, many at IW show and watch the shows.
Then I went over to Jester's and had drinks with
the boys. I found pictures of me, Primer, and
Malik Logan. from one of the after parties. Malik
was fucking with that IWE. I was so happy. I'll
fight him next time. Me and Malik can go toss
hands again. I haven't fought Malik in a while.
I think he's one up on me right now, if I remember
correctly. I haven't seen him since Showcase.
He's partially retired. He broke his hip. And
it's just irony because everyone thinks I'd break
my hip before anyone else. Now, he broke his
hip and took some time off, started training
again, then got a really, really good government
job. And then he's like, wow, I'm getting way
more money doing this. And basically, he quasi
-retired. And then Eric coaxed him out of retirement
and came back. Yeah, it was supposed to be him
and BRG. Yeah, the Harris Country Club. Yeah,
and then BRG. I think he had a double booked.
He dislocated his shoulder, dude. Oh, I thought
he was double booked. No, he dislocated his shoulder
last week. He's got to help her a little bit.
Yeah, if you guys didn't know, BRG used to wrestle
as Todd Harris. It was the Harris Country Club.
Way back when. Way back when. He looked like
Draco Malfoy. That was fun. It was a lot of cancellations,
sadly, for that show. Eric had said that. He
tried to get me last minute. He's like, hey,
and I'm like, I'm already booked. Or I would
have. And the thing is, there was no way for
me to double book either. JP got lucky that he
could double shot it. I don't think I could have
done it. Honestly, there's no way. I tried. I
know you tried. I tried. Yeah, there's just no
way for all three of us to do it. I'll say it
that way. The problem is the issue is that everybody
wants to go first and whatever. You can only
give it to so many people. The position where
I was on the card, even if I was the first out
after intermission and I just did the same thing
JP did was jump in the car in my gear and go,
I still wouldn't have made it. Unless I was part
of that six -man tag and they made that main
event, maybe. No, we weren't. we were on after
intermission we were yeah i think we're popcorn
actually so we came we were closer closer so
it was maybe i would have made maybe but maybe
there's three matches on the first half intermission
the band played we were first no we were first
first right after intermission because the smoke
from the smoke machine was still up yeah so yeah
i wouldn't have made it yeah unless they put
me in popcorn or whatever which honestly man
and we could have like i could we could have
easily slaughtered you in that six man like we
did nothing in that thing so um um and then uh
let's see we had saturday it was wild what's
that saturday yeah yeah but uh kids um oh go
ahead i was good i was just keeping the iwe jp
turned Yeah, he turns on everyone. We've learned
this all of a sudden. Yeah, apparently. We've
had stories, kids. Of course he's not here to
fucking defend himself. No, no, he's off playing
with his penguin somewhere. Somewhere. Is that
a euphemism? No. Actually, one of the shows that
was for January was announced. It's going to
be him versus Zack, which I'm looking forward
to. Is he back as Moxie, or is he going to come
back as Zack Burton? I think he was there as
Moxley. Yeah, Moxie. Yeah. Moxie, yeah. Big Box
and Matt Mahoney. He was the older brother of
Mark Mahoney, who you know who that is. Yeah.
Hold on a second. Children are screaming. See,
we try to do a professional podcast, but Cat
has a family and he doesn't drunk them. I mean,
lock his door. He's not getting his way, so he's
getting upset. Yeah, so no, it's I'm really sad
I could have been at that WWE show. Like I said,
I get booked. Jason Maverick won the Ring Wars
Championship. Yeah, yeah. And then Brandino fucking
demanded a match for the next show. So it's going
to be him versus Brandino. Good, man. Keep Jason
freaking humble, dude. Keep kicking his, you
know. If someone's going to kick his ass, it's
going to be Brandino. Throw his tall ass around.
Right. No one gives me shots. I'm trying to remember
the rest of the fucking show. So there was Brandino
and Malik versus Ben and was it Raph? Yes. There
was Shits and Tits versus Billy Vox and someone
else, right? Something like that, yeah. I have
the card somewhere. I don't know where it is.
Everything I saw about it looked fun. Yeah, it
was great. It was a great time. Did Eric come
back and jab at Jimmy against Mark? No, that's
the next show. No, no, no. It was his show. It
was his show, yeah. Yeah, it was funny as fuck.
It was him versus Mark moment. Oh, my God. I
don't know if I can tell this. Maybe I can. I
love you, Mark. Let me tell you this. Let me
tell the story. He actually did good enough where
he didn't do it in the ring or on the outside.
All right. However. That bathroom had a new coat
of paint. And I'm not kidding. We pick on Mark
about throwing up. Now, the reason Mark... He
has an actual disorder. He actually has an inner
ear thing. That's why I've worked him a couple
times and I've known well this guy here for my
suplexes. And I don't suplex him that much. Because
I don't want him getting sick. Because you get
flipped upside down a bunch year in and year
out. Yeah, he is a legit... disorder where he
gets vertigo pretty easily. We bust his chops.
Actually, that's the reason why, another reason
why Drifter, not Drifter, not that Drifter. Where's
Mask? Jesus, I'm thinking of his real name. Oh,
Dalton. Dalton. Dougie. Dougie, yeah. Yeah, I
think that's another reason why he doesn't wrestle
that much because the last match that he had
with Dave Dyer, he got extreme vertigo. Yeah,
we had to cut that match. No, it just reminds
me of the Larry show in Farmington. Him and Sonny
were there. They were just in the crowd just
having fun. He was doing his gimmicks. We throw
our shirts and our hats out of the ring. Mark's
there. He's got Stormy's shirt and hat on. He's
got someone's vest on. He's got 10 gimmicks on.
I'm like, I'm glad you didn't grab my jersey,
you asshole. It was just fun. Then we had MPW
on Saturday. The Wild returned. Hold on. Let's
get there. So the proposed match was me and JP
versus the pathway, which, which only happened
because Neil didn't know I was back. Yeah. So
we, uh, JP and I were like, all right, we'll
go kick pathways. Ask. We get there. And you
guys wrestled before you guys. Yeah. Yeah. We've
seen before JP and I have teamed a couple of
times. So we get there and they're like, Oh,
and what's the most famous vernacular in professional
wrestling card subject to change. So he gets
this happened Friday, right? Are you doing all
this shit on Friday? It was Friday night. We
didn't know if someone... We didn't know about
someone, something, somewhere. We'll say it that
way. I think it was Friday. I think it was 100
% Friday that we found out that somebody... No,
no, no, no. We found out everything about this
Saturday when I got there because it had changed
between what... No, no, no, no. The wild got
switched on Friday because somebody couldn't
make it and then it was literally last second
to turn to I'm on the show now. It was literally
like mid -Friday. It was like, okay. Yeah, so
anyway. So Saturday we walk in and Kat and I
are like, okay, cool. You know, blah, blah, blah.
And they're like, oh, you guys aren't taking
on the Pathway. We're like, okay. The Pathway
did Pathway bullshit. Like, we're crying. We
want our title shot. They didn't want to earn
their title shot. No, they wanted to bitch and
piss and moan and whine until they got their
way because they're spoiled little brats. And
then they got their title shot. And then somehow.
beat the freaking problem. They didn't want to
take us on because we beat their asses like we
do every time we face them. Hold on. I'm in the
middle of a rant. I'm going to do this. Sammy
Matthews, I heard your little mouth rant in there,
boy. I heard that, oh, yeah, we beat the pathway
in the street fight. No, you didn't beat the
pathway. The wild. The wild. I'm going. You didn't
beat the wild in a street fight. You beat me
and Johnny Pierce. Johnny and I have never teamed
before ever. Johnny's a great guy. I like Johnny.
Johnny is not. Big Cat. Johnny is not part of
the wild. He was part of the wild for one night.
So tell you what, if you guys want to fight us
so bad in a street fight, we'll take you on a
street fight. I have no problem rerunning that,
and I have no problem rerunning that with Big
Cat by my side, and we'll do what we always do
with you two assholes. We'll knock your teeth
down your throat, all right? Lee Miller, I'll
slap you so hard, knock that face paint off your
damn face, and you'll go back to freaking running
around. Wow, that almost became racist. I'm going
to stop ranting right there. The group chat almost
came up. They're coming to us somewhere right
now going, Andy, don't you fucking do it. Oh,
my God. No, seriously. It's like these guys want
to rant and bitch and complain that they're not
getting shit, yet they've got more tag titles
than we do. And first of all, that pisses me
off. But second, it's like, guys, you're getting
all the opportunities, and it's because we stepped
away for six months. That's why. We weren't around
for six goddamn months. Well, not only that,
there are the... To give them credit, they are
the biggest heel tag team right now in Maine.
Maybe even New England. You know what? It was
like when the Seawolves were running rampant.
Right. Sorry, we were getting a lot of opportunities
because we were the number one heel team. You
know? Right. But now we're back, bitches. So
guess what? We're coming for what's ours. Yeah.
Dog, shut up. Sadly, I don't think we're on the
next show, but... No, Neil did say... I was talking
to Neil. Neil did say that... I think we're going
to be back. I don't know what we're doing. But
probably not the March show. Probably not the
March show. That's the next NBW show is March.
Oh, I'm not in the chat, so I don't know. I'm
not in the chat either. I guess we'll find out
in March. Yeah, I guess, yeah. I might be booked
for Phoenix Pro Wrestling too. I know. Oh, yeah,
Phoenix. Phoenix Pro. Oh, shit. Send a text to
Teddy. Your boy Dylan's already there. Get Big
Cat. We can bring him out to the wild. Have another
tag team. Send Teddy a text, say, book us as
the wild. Straight up. Straight up. If we bring
the wild to Phoenix, first team I want on my
docket, first team I want on my docket is the
Crash Out Boys. Corey, John, y 'all are in my
head. Roblox? No, no. We can beat them up later.
I can beat them up. Don't they have the titles?
No, it's Teddy and Bob that have the titles.
Oh, I thought they had the titles. Teddy and
Bob have the titles. But I'm saying the Crash
Out Boys. First Boys on my docket. Corey and
Sean. There you go. This kid is just making noises.
I think it's February sometime. That'd be cool.
He's supposed to leave the show in February and
he wanted me on it. Hold on. My birthday's on
like a Monday, I think. You should send the Teddy
a text. Yeah, hold on. I'll go right freaking
now. Say that since Cat said that you wanted
him for the February show, you should book us
as the Wild. Hey, man. Fuck. Yeah, and then we
face Storm and JP at MPW. Can you not? The child
says it is my chat time. It is 9 o 'clock at
night, and you still don't want to go to sleep,
you little shit. It's a baby. They never knew.
Oh, Dada, yeah. You want to say hi to Dada now?
So we faced JP and Storm, and I'm sorry, Storm.
They kind of got murdered in that match. German
suplex. Sorry, buddy. I got to pull that up.
I didn't mean to go that high with it. I got
to pull that up. Let me explain what happened.
I know exactly what happened. I'm so used to
giving Germans and people don't give me anything
for a jump. He gave me a jump. All of a sudden,
he's up six feet in the air. I'm like, oh, he's
going to go on the back of his head. Luckily,
he landed high on his shoulders. He didn't land
right on the back of his head, but he did land
high. I'm like, I'm sorry, dude. So I called
the spot, and I've been doing this. Oh, hey,
Chetboy's here. He's here? Oh, I didn't see that,
Chet. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, it can stay unenlightened.
Yeah. So I called the spot, and I've been doing
this basically a Seamus punch, and with a big
chop. It's gross, and I was like, oh, do you
want to be cool if... Dylan gave a chairman suplex
at the end. It is a cool spot. I mean, it's legit.
It's one of those things that Kat and I are just
like, oh, we'll throw it together. Oh, poor Stormy.
Tag. Big cat slaps out. There's Texarkana on
the call. That slap was gross, too. Boom. Boom.
As far as I know, Stormy Savage is still alive.
And he's Lance on top of his fucking head. Sorry,
buddy. Try to win the match. Don't try to kill
anyone. Just try to win the match. I can't remember
the last time we hit the extension event, so
it was nice. Yeah, you know how I could tell
the last time I hit the extension event? My hip
hasn't hurt in forever. I hit it. I rolled out.
Next morning, I get up my lower back and my hip
are just screaming at me like, what the fuck
did you do? And I'm like, well. Yeah, we won
the match. I can tell. The shitty thing about
MPW, though, is that these fans, I think they
were just saying, hey, there's a show on the
island today. Let's go and hang out. Someone
said this the other day, and I'm not dissing
anyone. I'm not doing anything. I just have to
agree. It's like a lot of the fans at this point
that I've noticed, like, did you notice how we
know 90 % of the people in the crowd? Yeah. It's
people coming out to see their friends and family
wrestle. And the thing is, like, Y 'all can still
react. I don't freaking care if we go out as
the faces and they boo us. As long as they're
making noise. Seriously. There was one row. Every
time I do something, if you look where I look
to my left. There's a row of people over there
and they just wanted to be messed with. So I
kept looking over them and I kept jawing at them
because they kept giving me a reaction. Like,
I'm going to mess with those people because they're
giving me something. This is a cool spot. I like
this. Oh, is this the pose off? Yeah. And to
be fair, the storm is the most in shape out of
all of us. This would be funny as hell in front
of a really hot crowd. This got the crowd going,
which was nice. This is what we wanted. Derek's
going to take his shirt off the rep. JP's like,
what are we doing? Shout out to Derek Douglas.
Derek's got some guns on him. He does. I love
Derek. Oh, man. JP's pissed over here. I was
cracking up so hard in the corner. I did not
see this tag match starting this way. I did not
see this tag match starting this way because
we're killing time. That's why. We still went
about 11 all together. Oh, yeah. About 10 minutes,
yeah. We hit our time. Yeah, we were supposed
to do 8 to 10, and we were 10 to 12. I don't
remember. Anyway, we hit our time. We hit it,
we entertained, and we went home. Right, exactly.
Then I ran out with a hockey stick and wanted
to kill JP. JP turned on. Oh, JPizzle. JPizzle.
Oh, yeah. Can he show up to the show and explain
himself? No, gotta be... So the pathway shows
up. My leggy. And I'm a fair man. And I believe
in giving opportunities. Storm was hitting himself
in the head with that chair. This is Storm we're
talking about. And I believe in giving opportunities.
It looked like he was in a chair. Today, at this
moment, I would like to introduce you to the
new member of the pathway. Welcome to... Enlightenment!
Oh, that chair shot was disgusting. And then
this was not planned. The fucking power driver
on the chair. Jesus, poor Storm. Poor Storm.
Well, there's three of them. There's two of us.
Hey, Storm, you need some backup? Give us a call.
You know where to find us. Just because we fought
doesn't mean we're enemies. It just means we're
on opposite sides of that ring. Yeah, exactly.
You need a backup, buddy. Hit up the bat phone.
Send up the W signal. Yeah, the W signal. The
W signal. So, we got Saturday. What's that? I'm
being stupid. It's a cat paws and a shark fin.
Octopus tentacles. I don't know what I'm talking
about anymore. I lost. I almost lost the freaking
count. So, Saturday Night Man event's coming
on. Oh, yeah. And I think the only thing that's
been broadcast is the John Cena versus Gunther
match. None of the other matches have been? Really?
Nope, because... Can you stop? It says, no, my
baby. This audience is going to be great. You
didn't want to go to sleep when it was normal
time. I think it's Gunther versus John Cena is
the only thing that's been announced because
John Cena was talking about how he wanted to
show for like the upcomers to this is your opportunity.
Oh, no, no. We have more matches. Oh, we do?
Yeah. So there's Cena and Gunther. There's Cody
Rhodes versus Oba Femi. If you don't know who
Oba Femi is, he is the NXT heavyweight champion
right now. Bayley versus Saul Ruka, who is, is
she the NXT women's champ right now? She's the
one that does the flippy cutter. That's her finish.
Yeah, that's gross and awesome. AJ Styles and
Dragon Lee versus Javon Evans and Leon Slater.
That's what's been announced. So that's dope.
Of course, I always knew we were going to get
Gunther when the last time is now tournament.
I was really hoping for LA Knight, but of course,
it's going to go to Gunther. I still have. my
feelings about this. Do you want to hear this
guy's mixed feelings? My God, my God, Gunther's
been injured. What happened to Gunther? He got
attacked out back. Cena's out in the ring, pulls
his shirt off. He's like, all right, well, I'm
still here to fight. I was like, no, they're
not going to do that. You think you know me?
They're not going to do that. The only time I
would see that would be after the match and he's
about to leave and he comes out and maybe gives
him a hug or whatever. No, no, dude, I want him
out there for the match. I want Edge to be Cena's
last match. It's not going to happen. It needed
to be Edge or Orton. It's not going to happen.
This guy, Strange Alive. I hate that. Strange
Alive. He had some choice words about it as well.
A lot of people are feeling the same way. I have
feelings. But I sure as hell don't want to watch
Gunther versus John Cena for my goat's last fucking
wrestling match. What the fuck, Triple H? What
the fuck are you doing? We want legends returning.
We want edge. You want Chris Jericho, The Rock,
somebody who makes sense. Austin Theory makes
more fucking sense than Gunther. Gunther's almost
40. How is this a pass the torch kind of thing?
And on top of that, my goat is opening Saturday
Night Main Event. He's not even the fucking main
event. That was a rumor. That I don't know where
it came from. Even John came out and said, I
don't know where the hell this came from. Our
main event. We're like, yeah, let's watch John
Cena's last match and then we just leave. Yeah,
that's what I would do. I just paid $84 ,000
for the seat for Cena. Oh, Cena's on first. Cool.
I'll scout my ticket for the rest of the show.
Hey, you need $50 ,000 for this ticket. You can
go and watch the rest of the show. Yeah, there's
a reason why. He's the draw. He's the main event.
It's the same thing with the Hardys. The Hardys
came out first at Limitless. Guess what? The
crowd's just going to go, woo! For Limitless,
I think most of the crowd would have stayed.
A lot of the crowd there were for the Hardys.
It was the first time they've ever been to a
Limitless show. They were the coolest dudes,
too. They were so nice. I wish we could have
actually talked to them more. I didn't want to
mark out. front of them and shit like that so
yeah samuel matthews yeah it's a little joey
nails to be fair we were all some of us were
a little better than others but we were all working
yeah everywhere we all were yeah it's like when
they walked in the what's up they were walking
in and matt was especially was like hey guys
matt hardy matt hardy he's like hey i'm matt
hey matt we're all i i i had to bite my tongue
because i wouldn't go matt we know who the fuck
you are And then Matt, Sammy Matthews is like,
I'm getting the door. Nobody touches the door.
I'm getting the door. We're all working out about
that though. No, that was cool. They were great
guys. Main event. It's his last ever wrestling
match. Why the fuck? What is going on? I'll take
a CM Punk again. I'll take a Randy Orton again.
I'll take a Brock Lesnar again, even though WrestlePalooza
was trashed. Where's the rock? You had us all
excited in Elimination Chamber to milk us, get
us fucking hyped for the year, and then you fucked
us! This is the most under -fucking -whelming
retirement tour I've ever seen! Thou can't be
doing the never -seen! Seventeen! Greatest of
all time! Like this! Why is this Stormy Savage?
I don't know. But everybody has the same kind
of feelings. Like I said, We all know Gunther's
going to win. Yeah, he has to. He has to, and
it's just like, I kind of want to see LA Knight
win it because LA Knight seems like he's getting
pushed in the back, back down the card. He's
getting pushed in the back because he got himself
over. I think Triple H has that same problem
Vince has. Oh, you got yourself over, kid? Yep,
you didn't touch my golden egg. Come on ahead,
get demoted. I would love to see you. I'd love
to see Christian, like to see, not Christian
Casanova. Christian Casanova, yeah. His new name.
Carmelo Hayes. Carmelo Hayes. I'd love to see
him, you know, last match. The only problem that
Carmelo has is his size. Yeah. I mean, he is
a great, like, middleweight still exists. He'd
be a middleweight. Actually, Cena technically
could be middleweight if we're going boxing,
but let's not get into that. No, it's like he's
not the biggest dude and Gunther is imposing.
Someone to retire Cena, it does make a bit of
sense, but like I said, I agree with that kid.
I'm like, give me a punk. And the rumor is that
But yeah, I agree with that. Sorry to cut you
off. The rumor is that they're turning Gunther
into the new legend killer type thing because
he retired Goldberg. Cool. Have a fight with
Orton then. He's retired John Cena. There's rumors
that maybe he'll be retiring Randy Orton because
Randy Orton keeps being put on the shelf. Orton
doesn't get put on the shelf. What happens is
Orton wrestles for three months and goes, I'm
going to take a couple months off. Are you sure?
I think he keeps on fucking hurting himself.
No, last time he wasn't hurt. He just was like,
I'm going to take a couple months off. Honestly,
it's Orton. What are you going to do? He's like,
I'm a legend. I'm always getting these led to
contact. Could you imagine Orton? I'm going to
take a couple months. You can't do that. I quit.
I'll go to AEW. Fuck you. Orton's like, everyone
else is booking their own shit over there. I'll
go book my own shit. Right. Kind of thinking
that's what they're going for is that he's just
continuously retiring these vets He's the last
match and beating them whatever which is like
Well, like he was he's devastating. I think Walter
is more aggressive than Gunther is but um It's
understandable why they're getting generous.
Yeah, he is definitely the character that could
do this could beat the yeah like You can believe
that he would actually beat them. I have to say
this for a second, and this pains everything
in my body. I actually agree with Lee Miller
on this one. Orton is... Attraction. He is. Orton's
that guy you bring out every few months, and
it's like, all of a sudden, I have a list in
my head, and everyone's like, oh shit, Randy
Orton! I think even Punk said he only has like
54 dates because of that reason. They don't want
to over saturate. I think that was the problem
with Brock. I fucking hated seeing Brock all
the time. I don't like seeing Brock now. And
not only did I hate seeing Brock all the time,
I hated not seeing Brock all the time when he
was champion. That time he was champion doing
these half dates. Yeah, that's my thing. When
Roman had the belt, everyone was like, Roman
Reigns is a thousand days with the title. Where
the fuck's he been? He hasn't defended the damn
belt once. Punk defended the belt more times
than he had it in his 544 days or whatever it
was. Roman did it in 1500 days. Roman also was
sick. I'd give him that. He was doing less because
of his body. He was so hot, they had to. And
at that point, it was the story of trying to
get the belt off him. And then building up Cody
to finish his story and whatnot. I guess that
makes fucking sense. Yes. But looking into the
stuff, John Cena's doing the rounds and stuff,
doing the podcast, which is pretty neat. He was
on Joe Rogan's podcast. He actually shot out
Bangor, Maine, which was pretty dope. But he
called it like, I've been everywhere in the world.
I've been here. I've been here. I've been Bangor,
Maine. This is places that you don't know about.
Now, did he say Bangor or Bangor? He said Bangor,
Maine. Okay, good. He's from Massachusetts. He
knows how to say Bangor. That doesn't mean shit.
You know how they pronounce town names down there?
That is true. Yeah, exactly. Worcester? Billerica?
Leominster? I lived in Mass for eight years,
seven years. I cut it out. Honestly, and two,
I'm pulling up ones from Chris Van Vliet that
we can talk about. For my Mass friends to get
on here, be like, fuck you, Andy. But I do also
recommend to listen to the Joe Rogan podcast.
I think it's also a lot better. I feel like he
answers questions a lot better. It feels like
more of a conversation with Joe Rogan than it
is with Chris Van Vliet. There's nothing wrong.
I like both of them. But Chris seems like he's
asking more questions and letting the person
talk. With Joe Rogan, it feels like it's more
like a conversation that they're having. But
I got some clips from the podcast that they did
with Chris. And we're going to start off with
just how he feels about this whole... This whole
tour he's having with the, you know, he's finishing
wrestling. And, of course, I can't see the...
I think it's this one. This one right here. I
got to move this over to my main screen. Well,
to put into words, how are you feeling going
into this last match? Great. Truly great. Been
able to put programming that's held the attention
of folks out there for a year. Been able to leverage
individual intellectual property and create attention
through things like the Time Is Now tournament.
Stuff like that's important. Even when you can't
be there, you're kind of helping get eyes on
the product. Gosh, I'm super excited about the
13th because they bought what I sold them. I
would love for it to be rather than just a tribute
show. I want it to be a look ahead. And, you
know, I'll have my last in -ring performance.
That is for certain. I'm not doing anything after
that. But in doing so in the night, too, we're
going to get big WWE superstars so they can say
they were on the card in non -canon exhibition
matches against the best and brightest we got
in NXT. So, gosh, what a way to go out. What
a way to go out. Using those few hours that Peacock
has given us and Netflix internationally to be
able to say goodbye to a chapter in my life that's
very important. And in doing so, hopefully get
eyes on what could be the next two -decade run
or maybe give somebody that. boot in the butt
that like yo, this is what the noise sounds like,
you know, like I It's a I'm really really happy
man. I feel I feel great Now, um, this was the
coolest thing but In one of the clips he this
is this is the only thing that he shot for what
he wanted He said I want my last match to be
With from the NXT to go out there and show what
they got and possibly, you know, push them more
forward or realize they need more work. So I
think that's pretty dope. You know, they got
so many guys on NXT that are ready probably to
be on the main roster. And this is basically
the step in the door. Usually it's at the Rumble,
and then we get to know, oh, they're now going
to be on the show, whatever. But this is just
basically a step before that. It's like, hey,
this is your opportunity. Don't fuck it up. You
might be on the main card after this. But yeah,
we got that, and John Cena gets more into depth
about other stuff. They talked about his whole...
run um this whole retirement run i think this
is a right year tour at money in the bank 2024
yeah in toronto yep how much planning had gone
into that announcement how were you already setting
aside about another year and a half so like it
the whole thing was like three years no way yeah
so you started thinking about this retirement
tour in 2022 yeah yeah wow how crazy is that
just to think about um 2022 wasn't that when
peacemaker for like yeah 2022 is when peacemaker
first came out and he started getting a lot of
acting gigs so he's probably like you know what
i don't have to hurt anymore to do this and make
money and i think he explains in this clip um
like just getting able to like do because because
of sports entertainment he has to get a certain
type of insurance Because of being an actor,
you can't have his face fucked up or anything
like that. So if that happens, it's going to
cost more money to doing reshoots and shit like
that. Yeah, and we've all taken a bad bump or
a bad move where all of a sudden you get nailed
in the face somehow, like John the Bomb. I wrestled
him a couple weeks ago. uh he threw up the big
boot and i was like oh that's not supposed to
be there and i ate the big boot literally to
my face yeah it spot looked great because it
looked like legit because it was 100 legit because
i was like oh crap joey one of joey nails uh
did a shoot punch and one of his 10 count punches
by accident oh my god that was against freaking
uh johnny pierce too yeah johnny pierce it's
not johnny pierce i don't know that that boy
big so yeah so By then, I knew I had a lot of
opportunities outside of WWE, and those are very
difficult to balance, not just being everywhere.
I'm going to let this play. I think you have
the opportunity to do some commentary, too. I'll
be right back. The first half of this year, for
the tour, I was flying back and forth to Budapest
and Morocco, making PLE dates. Man, I literally
left Intuit the day I announced the Jan 6. I
left to land in Budapest to shoot the next day.
That's a scheduling thing. The biggest hurdle
to climb is insurance. And insurance is super
pricey. Like every date, the cost goes up, whether
it be $500 ,000, $1 .5 million. Because you're
in the ring, you could get hurt. Because you're
doing a picture. And you're being like, hey,
I have Saturday off. That's the thing a lot of
folks don't understand. It's like, but you have
the weekends off. You can do this. Or like they
can shoot Tuesday through Saturday if they want.
You can do every Monday. You're right. But the
liability of, hey, I'm doing this action movie.
And then I'm going to go do, albeit choreographed
action, but with a high variable that I could
get hurt. If I get hurt, I can't come back to
shoot. Or like if I. Yeah, like I just said,
it's like if you go and you take a bad bump,
all of a sudden your elbow's dislocated. What
are you going to do, man? That's all of a sudden
time you have to take off to heal up. Yes, wrestling
is choreographed. Wrestling is predetermined.
Wrestling hurts like hell. Any one of us that
have done this more than five minutes knows that.
It's like I had a friend of mine today or one
of the guys, my local. uh collectible store he's
like man i've always wanted to wrestle but i
broke my back and i don't know if i could do
it now but i'd love to try it i'm like i wouldn't
you know try to explain to people that this shit
hurts so yeah cena's 100 right in this aspect
where it's like well if i you know hurt myself
wrestling it's time i gotta take off the movie
and that's a multi -million dollar thing i'd
also know i have money to do get my nose broke
or if i get a black eye or something like we've
already captured these moments on camera and
now i gotta stop down and wait for the thing
to heal before I can shoot another frame. So
that's something that I had to learn the hard
way of like, my schedule is open. I can do it.
It's an insurance thing. And this is what it
costs. So trying to get a studio to leverage
that, to let you go play stunt man is impossible.
So you got to, a lot of times you got to come
out of pocket and that's, that's a tough balance.
You came out of pocket to pay for the insurance
to cover some of this? There are ways to get
everyone to play nice. And a great way to start
a diplomatic conversation is saying, I will invest.
So whether it's 100 % of the cost or a fraction
of the cost or like, hey, can you help us out?
TKO, can you help us out? And I'll chip in. There's
a lot of ways to be diplomatic. And when you
want to do something and you don't, when the,
it's not purely about financial gain. And with
this year, it was like, I thought I was going
to take the whole year off for WWE. But then
when they said, I only need you for 36, a few
opportunities came up and I was like, okay, if
I do the opportunities, I'm going to be on the
hook for insurance. Insurance is this. I knew
it. Opportunity is peacemaker. Of course, season
two. As far as I know, there's not going to be
a peacemaker season three. I think they're moving
into checkmate, which is fine, but they have
a lot of questions for peacemaker season two.
They need to go back and re -answer. I need to
know what happens. reasons if you haven't seen
peacemaker season two it's awesome and cena plays
a great role in it as peacemaker uh and um go
watch it sign up for this we're traveling a long
way thanks for your patience three years ago
i started getting these opportunities and so
i'm i'm like filming three maybe sometimes squeezing
in four movies a year i'm on set all the time
which means i can't make any dates and then i
know my year in advance these things going to
pre -production earlier so you know kind of what
you're doing the next year and then it's like
22 books all right all right all right i can't
do any more of the podcast um because we're doing
our own podcast here why we'll sync to another
podcast but big cat wandered off so who knows
but um no i mean cita's right and what he's talking
about he's talking about like you're on set a
year like not even on set but you go year in
advance like when we find out a movie's I'm going
to use Stranger Things, right? When Stranger
Things Season 5 was like, oh, we're in production.
Cool. Production means we've started writing
scripts. We've started getting sets together.
We started doing this. We started doing that.
That's not we started filming. We started filming
usually another six to eight months in. And then
we start filming. And of course, by the time
post -production is done, by the time CGI is
done, by the time everything else is done, that's
another six to eight months. all of a sudden
you from pre -production to post -production
is two and a half years so it takes a hot minute
so yeah so cena's not really able to go out there
and be like well yeah i get this time off and
like you just mentioned what happens if he busts
his nose all of a sudden he's got two black eyes
he's gonna let that heal up because he can't
look different from scene to scene unless it's
supposed to look different now There are TV shows
and stuff that I've written in pregnancies. King
of Queens is a good example, but there's also
shows that have written pregnancies around being
able to hide the pregnancies. I mean, he's married
with children when Casey Gallagher got pregnant.
By the way, Casey Gallagher's husband is the
same guy who wrote and created Sons of Anarchy,
in fact, and he's also the guy who was half -blind
in the show. Anyway, so yeah, so it's like you
get a lot of weird stuff going on. And I need
Kat to come back because I'm running out of stuff
to talk about here. 23 booked. 24 looks pretty
busy. Okay, in 22, what if we outline 25? Why
do you want to do that? Because I won't be able
to physically do it past 48. So in 2022, we kind
of laid the groundwork for the idea of this.
And then in early 23, we pitched. TKO, I say
we, it's me and one of my best friends, Dan Bamuk
is kind of my right hand, my consigliere, I guess.
And we pitched him the idea of a year, call it
as you see it. And again, lead with diplomacy.
I think it's worth this, but you can think it's
worth whatever. Please allow me to bet on myself.
You want to run on incentivized contract? You
want to do this? I want to do this. And I want
to make everybody win. If you put down a buck,
I want to give you back 10. And at the same time,
I want to give everybody out there a run for
their money. Like we're really going to go for
it. I won't, I will do my best not to suck. I'm
not just going to go do the five moves of doom.
I think we can do something real special. And
they bought it, but it also takes a while to
put that through the engine. So as soon as they
bought it in like mid early 23, now I'm like,
okay, give me a list of all possible cities.
I got out. 60 cities put on my desk. And I don't
think they talked about, I don't know if he brings
this up in the podcast, but he talked about wanting
to do a full year, like continuously, like do
a whole WWE run. And they were like, no, it'll
be too much. Let's give the people, you know.
what they want which is like this john cena either
heal or baby face during that time you know make
them want to have it instead of just seeing them
every day and just possibly getting a stale product
as they continue so um i'm glad they decided
to do the certain amount of dates not so glad
that they made the tickets so fucking expensive
But hey, I think this run is a lot better than
actually seeing John Cena on TV every single
week. Merchandise, uniform for everybody. Because
I know you got out, it takes like nine months
to clear IP design, to get in production. Hats
and wristbands take longer than t -shirts. Around
when I announced in Toronto, 15 months out, we
were like lasered in for everything. so we had
every city every potential city cool thing about
the uniforms is like they become awesome and
because we did so many i actually no kidding
i did 17 extras and i'm trying to get fanatics
to release the never seen 17 that's brilliant
17 cities that like houston's on there sacramento's
on there human city because people are going
to be like i can't believe he didn't come to
my city there's there's a few there's a few and
a few cool unis but like that'd be kind of cool
merchandise to get right there just have the
uh or just to see all the dates that he could
have made but didn't make we had to be from a
prep standpoint ahead of the curve because i
man i've been in wwe a long time i know as soon
as creative changes like that so i don't ever
want to be caught from an admin standpoint not
being able to like oh we can't make this because
it wasn't in time um So we got way pre prepped
at Toronto. We were like laser focused to get
in. And, uh, then starting Jan six, man, it was
off to the races and boy, creative doth change.
Sometimes directions go different ways, but that's,
that's always the case. No matter where you are
in the car, whether you're creative, doth change,
man, they told me this. Yeah. So you, what was
that? So Cena's like creative doth change. And
the best, he's talking about Toronto. The best
example, oh my God, that's hot. I'll shut that
off. The best example of that is, I mean, you
should watch that match at some point because
it's a great match of like flipping, right? The
Rock and Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania 17, I think
it was. Hogan is NWO Hogan. He's supposed to
be the bad guy. They're in Toronto. Toronto is
tipsy, toppy, flippy, floppy world anyway. so
they go out hogan goes out and of course the
crowd's like boo and rock comes out and they
get the ring and also the crowd's like now this
let's go hogan they start cheering him and you
can see hulk going what the actual going on like
and you know hulk hogan terry bully is a piece
of ship a hulk hogan you know we all grew up
with hulk and so it was like it's one of those
wild moments where you're sitting there watching
it like what is going on in me who understands
wrestling? I'm like, Oh, this is going to be
double flip. Watch this shit happen. It was kind
of like, uh, Brett and Austin. And, um, yeah,
dude is in middle of the match. The crowd starts
chanting Hogan, Hogan, Hogan. And all of a sudden
you can see rock looking at Hogan and you can
see him just say a couple of things really quick.
And you could tell it was like, we're flipping
the ship. And you could tell they started calling
spots each other in the ring. And all of a sudden,
Hogan's doing his classic shit. Like, he hits,
like, the Hulk up and that big boot and the leg
drop and, like, you know, Rock won. But it's
still, like, you know, he hit all the, like,
the Hogan moments and the crowd's just freaking
exploding on that. So, yeah. Toronto's the place
to do that if you want to, like, make shit flip
topsy -turvy. Yeah, exactly. And the funny thing
about that match, too, though, is that The Rock
tried to call shit. And Hogan's like, that doesn't
work for me, brother. Yeah, it doesn't work for
me, brother. We're going to field out the ring.
We're going to see what the crowd wants, basically.
To be fair, I mean, Hogan wasn't wrong in that
instance. Let's go there and see what the crowd
wants. Oh, the crowd wants me to go. The crowd
wants me to be the baby. Rock's like, all right.
And the thing is, they didn't really have to
change much because Hogan, I mean, even as NWO,
Hogan was still pretty, wrestled pretty much
the same. If you guys go back and watch old Hogan
matches, he never wrestles quite like a babyface.
You expect babyfaces like Bret Hart. Babyface
Bret Hart wrestles as a babyface. He'd come from
behind. Babyface Hogan? This shit like back breaks.
He's like, ah, fuck you. It's a complete... He
wrestles like a heel. I remember watching WrestleMania
6 or something like that. I'm watching Hogan
work and I'm like, he works like a heel. He does.
Let's get back up from you a little bit. Uniforms
is like they become pre -prepped. Sometimes directions
go different ways. How long is this? It's like
an eight minute clip. Middle or bottom? I'm done
with this. That's too long of a show to be listening
to John Cena talk. If we had John Cena on the
fucking show, I would let him talk the entire
two hours. I don't care. But I got more clips.
It's fine. Dude, we're doing our own podcast.
Let's not play other people's podcasts. We get
the motherfuckers on our podcast. We're talking
about it and shit like that. We can talk about
it, but it's just my thing. My thing tonight.
I'm having a night. Okay, well, that was the
end of the show, guys. Thank you for... Now we
got punches, motherfucker! No, we don't have
botches. You don't have botches? No. Oh, that's
it. I quit the show. That's weird. This is literally
one of the things we're going to talk about,
and you decided that you just fucked this. We're
not going to... There you go. But basically,
okay, so basically in the interview... No, we
can play more, but it's fine. No, it's fine.
I'll just talk. He talks about, you know, not
wanting to do this longer than 50... Until he's
50 because, you know, AJ Styles said the same
thing. You know, he's doing a performance. He's
basically – his body can't handle it anymore.
So I'm going to throw that out there as me personally.
I get that. I've said that on multiple occasions
myself where I'm like, I don't – okay, pull back.
No big secret. You can tell by the beard. Not
exactly speaking chicken. I'm 44. And I've said
this multiple times. I'm like, look, I want to
do this for a few more years. I definitely want
to do it probably till 47, 48, somewhere in that
area. Maybe I'll hit 50. I doubt it. We'll see
how I feel. But it's like at a point your body
just starts going, I can't do that. You know,
I'm already feeling certain things in two years
where two years ago I could do shit that I can't
quite do as well now. Like I'm not quite as quick.
You know, I don't, I don't have like that little
bit of explosiveness that I had in like certain
things anymore. And I'm just kind of like, I
shouldn't have lost that, that quick, you know?
And I, and the thing is I do the gym more now
I work out more now I'm, I'm eating better now,
but I don't seem to have that anymore. And I'm
kind of like, okay, all right. You know, I'm
certain maybe I'm slowing down on this, but I
can change it for this, which is fine. But in
the long run, I get where Sina is coming from
and AJ too, especially AJ style is you don't
want to get to the point where you can't do the
things anymore. Look at Undertaker's last couple
matches. Because he was so broken down and tired
at that point, he couldn't do half his shit.
And this is The Undertaker, man. And he's refused
to do another match unless it's a rematch with
the DX. Yeah, and we want to see The Undertaker
do Undertaker shit. We want to see The Old School.
We want to see The Diver on the top rope. We
want to see him tombstone someone, you know?
But the problem is, if you can't physically do
it, Get out of there. He was smart enough. He
was like, I can't at this point. Yeah. John Cena
praises AJ Styles too quite a bit in the second
podcast. He's talking about how he tried to find
things that maybe AJ said in an interview or
whatever that they could build off from their
match that was coming up. He couldn't find anything.
Because AJ is such a nice guy. And they came
up with the... AJ said if you didn't go away
and I was still here... If you didn't go away,
I would be in your position, whatever. I'd be
the top guy, whatever, because I'm charismatic
and shit like that. And because you're back,
you're basically taking what is deserved to me,
basically. What they build off. What were you
going to say? Oh, you said that. Did you ever
see this? I'm going to kind of change. I'm changing
tonight. That's okay. Did you ever see AJ Styles
go off on Jeff Hardy? No. So after the was bound
for glory. I can't remember which pay -per -view
was where Jeff came out fucked up. And I mean,
I think it was about the worst thing. yeah yeah
so after that jeff went away for a little while
because jeff needed help um and when he came
back he walked through the locker room and he
was trying to apologize to people he's like look
i was i messed up i'm sorry and he goes to aj
and aj is like AJ accepted it, but he yelled
at him. He freaked out at him. He's like, you're
trying to take food out of my mouth, out of Christopher
Daniel's mouth, out of this guy's mouth, because
you want to show up here and not be ready to
work? Man, we've busted our asses throughout
these years to make this company something. We
do this to make this company something. You walk
in here, get handed everything, and you want
to fuck it up like this? And he's just ranting
on him. And you can see Jeff sitting there like...
I don't want to say a beaten child, but Jeff
looks like he's like, yeah, he's like, I'm sorry.
And it's not a bad, I'm sorry. It's not like
a hang dog. I'm sorry. But it said Jeff knew
he fucked up, you know? And just, but it was
just fun watching AJ go off on him. And Jeff
knew he deserved it. You know, he's like, well,
I screwed this up. So, you know? Yeah. So that's
another, we should watch that at some point.
Oh yeah. We have to watch that on rumble. We,
because we don't have a long enough show. We'll
have a special rumble. Shit that we're going
to do. Are we doing something tonight? Yeah,
we're going to do something tonight. Because
I don't have botches. Why the fuck do we have
botches? Because, again, it takes a while to
get botches because I cannot use WWE, TNA, shit
like the AEW. I can't use that. So I have to
scavenge the internet for botches for people
that post it online on Instagram. And I've only
gotten four. Steelship and Botch Mania. How does
Botch Mania get away with it? They don't. They
get copyright strikes and shit like that. You
invert that shit. That's what you do. I'm not
fighting every copyright strike. I'm just going
to take it out. Fine. What are we doing? Back
to the interview. They try to bring up the heel
turn. what was the actual plans and John Cena
buried that shit. He didn't want to talk about
it. The actual plan. I don't fucking know. No,
he knew there was supposed to be something in
the gut plant. Cause that's the one thing that
pisses off fans is that the rock wasn't there
at WrestleMania. I understand that you had this
character that you wanted to ruin wrestling,
but the rock should have been there at WrestleMania.
Yeah. I said, we had Travis Scott, which Logan,
Logan Paul actually had a theory. Logan Paul
actually had a theory why he's not around anymore
and that's because he Travis Scott realized that
if you want to be in this business you have to
be all in so you know what Travis Scott's not
around anymore because he busted Cody's face
no he was he was still around that busted Cody's
face right but he was still around after that
and he was supposed to have more dates and he
yeah If I was Cody Rhodes, I'd make, if that
motherfucker comes near me, I'm going to knock
his teeth down his throat. No, I think it's,
Logan had a point on his podcast. I think it's
that he realized that there's a lot of work into
doing this. It's not fake. It still hurts and
shit like that. And he just wasn't into it as
much as like Bad Bunny and shit like that. So
he's like, no, I'm out. Super Bowl halftime,
Bad Bunny. yeah i'm actually excited for that
i like bad buddy's music i can't understand a
word of it but i like it yeah i catch like well
to be fair i took two semesters of spanish so
i can't understand any of it but i understand
some of it it was just weird i'm like that bunny
was okay wrestler i think he was the same as
jelly roll even though i love jelly roll um i
think jelly roll needed more training than he
like it's kind of felt really green like hold
on You want to do something fun on Rumble? Find
Karl Malone in DDP versus Dennis Rodman in Hulk
Hogan. Oh, I bet that's bad. Oh, it is bad. I
watched it live. I don't think for some reason.
So back in the late 90s, I'm going to explain
the mid to late 90s. I was more of a WCW fan
because here's the thing. When I was growing
up in Fort Kent, which is way up in other main
kids, we actually had Superstation TBS. So every
Saturday at six Oh five, I get to watch WCW.
I can watch WWE also every Sunday morning at
a Sunday morning at like noon ish. I think it
was 11 or noon. I can't remember. Um, but the
problem is the WWE show on Sunday was a clip
show and they'd show like half a match. Like,
Oh, Amber, here's demolition taking on. And I
love demolition. So like, uh, take it on Joe
Schmoe and Jim Bob Cooter. Ah, demolition decapitation.
One, two, three. Cool. I got four seconds of
a match where if I could watch Saturday night,
I'd get a full match. And, of course, then Raw
and Nitro started. They got more into Nitro because,
you know, as time went on, you get the NWO, that
became big. And, like, WWE started getting big,
too. So, for a while, what I would do is I would
watch the first hour of WCW because it started
at 8, flip over to Raw, watch Raw for two hours,
then flip back over to WCW because they'd show
a replay and catch the last hour of Nitro. So,
I always watched Raw and Nitro. I just never
watched them at the same time. Unless something
really caught my attention, I flip back and forth
and be like, it's Sting! I'm like, yeah, I'm
watching Sting. Right, exactly. Exactly. Yeah,
since we don't have botches and shit like that,
I think we're going to move. We've done almost
an hour and a half of the show. We're actually
going to move to Rumble. While we're here, why
don't you do your plugs for the YouTube, and
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I was like, Teddy, just saying, if you're going
to bring on Big Cat, maybe team us up because
we're an actual fucking tag team. He's like,
that's a good plan. I was like, you're done.
Oh, man. Coming up for shows, you can find me
in Sanford, December 19th at North Atlantic Wrestling
Association. I think I'll be there. The reason
I say I think is because I have to work that
day since it's a Friday. So we'll see what happens.
I will try to be there. We'll say it that way.
I will definitely be at Skips on December 27th.
I love wrestling at Skips. It's a fun time. It's
honestly, it's a great, great time for all. So
yeah, hold on. Because I didn't plan this through.
Oh, wrong belt. That's a side. I just want to
say now this is officially mine. This is the
just like the people. Just fucking thrown on
you. This is the main state championship. I got
it upside down. Cameras over there. Here we go.
See main state championship. And I'm going to
pull John Cena with this thing. You remember
when John Cena was doing the open challenge with
the US title? Same thing. Open challenge. If
I'm at a show and I got this with me and you
want to fight for it, let me know. We'll fight
for it. God forbid I answer that challenge. If
you want to fight me for it, man, yeah, shit,
man, I'll take you on. That, of course, over
there is the Arista County Championship for Crown
of Maine. I don't think I can fight for that
anymore. I want to. To be fair, Mike did say
I could. Mike's the owner of one of the owners
of Crown. He's like, fight for it. I was like,
all right. But the main state title is an open
challenge. If you guys want a shot at it, let
me know. and get me booked and i'll take you
out if i lose it i lose it if i keep it i keep
it that's the way i look at it um it's i want
to really what i want to do with that title is
i want to give guys um how did i say it the other
day i was trying to think how to say i want to
give guys not at this level but this level a
chance guys are just right there but we'll probably
won't take that next step because we can't for
some reason like say family life or say this
or say that we just can't get that next step
to be out of like limitless or GCW or the big
shows, you know, but they're putting it, put
it in the work. They're going to the shows. They're
putting in the work, they're doing their best
and they're just going to be one of those guys.
And I want to give those guys a shot at a title.
I want to give those guys a shot. I want to make
it kind of the workhorse title where, you know,
the guys are the workhorses at the mid, the mid
card workhorse title basically. So you want a
shot? Let me know. I'll give you a shot of a
war horse. Did you see that as old gimmicks back?
We're not war, but yes, war horse, war horse
rules ass. Yeah. He brought back the old gimmick,
which was awesome. Yeah. Um, I think that's it
for me. Big cat Tyler Adams on Facebook and,
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here. All right. Catch us again next Friday.
We'll see if we can get a guest on for that day.
I may or may not be here next Friday. We'll see
what happens. So maybe we'll be taking Friday
off because the one that decides to show up is
Dylan X. Who else shows the fuck up? Yeah. Jesus.
Apparently. I set up this nice office so I can
be up here and do this shit with y 'all. And
no one else shows up, man. I had a freaking ECW
plaque up here. Gave it to me by Coach Beavis.
It's actually signed by Tommy Dreamer, which
is pretty cool. You know? I don't know. I don't
know. Hopefully we'll get everybody back next
week. Or the week after. We'll figure shit out,
I guess. Bunch of fuckers they are. We'll catch
you guys next week. See you. Bye.