Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode
of First Sessions Wrestling Podcast. I'm your
host, the main of main, Big Cat Tyler Adams.
We didn't catch us live every Friday 9 p .m.
Eastern Standard Time. Of course, we got the
nautical nightmare Dylan Nix with us and who
decided to show up, JP O 'Reilly. JP O'Tizzle.
JP O'Tizzle. Sorry, I have a lot of important
things going on here. Apparently so, man. Yeah,
why is your mic cutting in and out? Is that like
completely cutting it up? It's like fading. It's
like his wrestling. It sucks. I don't know. Children,
behave. Yeah, we got a very important guest coming
on to talk. You know, we talked a little bit
before the show. That's why we're a little late.
I didn't get time to kick y 'all in the dingleberries
tonight. Yeah. So let's welcome our guest. He
is the epic guy. You are you. You've been hitting
the... What? It's already off the rails. Shut
the fuck up. It's always off the rails. This
is the per session. Let's get him in here. How's
it going, buddy? Yeah, it's going. I'm just driving,
sucking the day's dick. You know what I'm saying?
Making sure I... Make money so I can fucking
give it all back to my fucking girlfriend. She's
got a big fat ass and she eats a lot. So, you
know, in order to feed that big Dominican booty,
got to be out here hitting the roads. You know
what I'm saying? It's what I do. Oh, shit. She's
going to slap the shit out of me when she hears
that. She's going to be like, what the fuck did
you say? All right. Quick fun quote. You're on
the West Coast, right? Yeah, of course, bro.
The best coast. I can tell because it's pitch
black here. It's pitch black here on the East
Coast. No, no. It's nighttime over here. It's
just I'm such a fucking star. The fucking sun
spotlights me the entire time. Yeah. Well, welcome
to the show. You know, you are very popularly.
news you know with the iraja stuff and uh we
definitely want to go over that later on but
uh um you know finding some things about you
like looking it up um you know either you do
a lot of weight lifting and uh we were just talking
about it before uh with the scaling up uh you
know you did the podcast with them but you also
have another channel with them where you catch
predators and shit like that so we want to talk
about that as well and of course we'll get to
the raja stuff last uh but uh do you want to
just explain to like what got you into wrestling
it's a long story do you want the true story
or the fun story uh whatever story you feel like
telling the fun story So, like, one day, right,
you know, my girlfriend was changing, and she
had, like, a thong on, right? But she'd gained
a little bit of weight, and I looked over, and
the lights were kind of dim. I got a flashback
from when, like, Rikishi was doing a stink face
at the kid. I was like, ah, Rikishi, is that
you? And I was like, I think I need to become
a wrestler. And then I became a wrestler. You
know, it's really... I fuck with my girlfriend
so bad. I say that to her every now and again.
She's like, I'm going to fuck you up. No, I became
a wrestler because my best friend always wanted
to be in the tag team with me called the Smash
Bros. Back when I was a power lifter, there's
videos of us dancing to Hulk Hogan, Real American,
and I'm squatting 500 pounds on a pause and doing
a beer bong at the bottom of the squat and then
coming up. I've done it multiple times. I used
to do beer bong squats every year for my birthday.
I'm sitting here curling a 12 -ouncer and you're
like, yeah, squat 500. It's fine. I'm a 700 plus
pound squatter in my heyday. I still deadlift
over 700 pounds. I still bench close to 400.
My squat, I just did 650 not too long ago. I
was all proud of myself for doing 320 on a hack
squat. Well, that's a hack squat, sir. That doesn't
count because there's no danger in that. You
get to put the safeties in. The machine can only
go so low. There's no opportunity for you to
die. You know what I'm saying? That's legit.
I want you to think about this. How do you feel
now? Yeah. Well, let me break this down for you.
When you're squatting. No, you shouldn't have.
That was a mistake going into this. Most of my
life. The thing is. Yeah. Well, I, I, you know,
we've all been there. You know, I was my dad's
most expensive mistake. He stole me. So we're
all here. Welcome to the family. So let me just
break down squatting for you. Okay. Squatting
doesn't count on a hack squat. You need to have
a bar on your back and heavy weight because squatting
is like eating ass. All right. You need to make
sure that like you go all the way down and get
all the way involved in it. And you almost die
every time. That's the only proper way to do
it. Holy shit. Yeah, I was told I needed to be
more professional because AEW and WWE were looking
at me and stuff like that. Then I watched Triple
H drop a bunch of F -bombs on Netflix. And I'm
like, I'm not going to let you steal my thunder,
buddy. I was funny before I was a wrestler. Did
you watch the Kill Tony episode that he did?
No. Oh, my God. He did Kill Tony this past Monday.
I love him. triple h to drop it literally every
time he made a joke it was actually triple h
dropping f -bombs the entire two oh jesus yeah
it's probably raunchy too like i i'm so proud
he's a pretty bastard well yeah i mean you're
supposed to be welcome to humanity nobody's supposed
to be trimmed and proper in a suit all day like
in life's a tragedy you know the real reason
i got into wrestling with my buddy ended up dying
that's why he's tattooed across my whole face
right here uh he died at the age of 27 he left
behind a two -month -old and a seven -year -old
wow yeah we power lifted together i was like
a technically professional level international
elite and he was my whole like reason i got into
lifting uh for these competitive lifting because
he would talk so much and then i'd back it up
and we always joked around and had so much fun
together we used to do this where We'd wear fanny
packs and take off all of our clothes and, like,
roll our underwear up so it looked like we had
nothing but fanny packs on. And then we would
run around the Fin Expo and try to find each
other. We'd start on opposite ends and go, Dad!
And then we'd, it was like Marco Polo. And then
we'd find each other and we'd jump into each
other's arms. It was very homoerotic, but it
was so much fun. And, yeah. I want to get you
and we call him Wrestling Dad. His name is Ben.
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Just watch the magic
happen. So I tell you that I like to walk around
naked and now you're trying to get me in a room
with a guy named Dad? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah,
I mean, that is true. Dude, we caught a pirate
in the last one. What? Is that the pirate or
just the cosplaying pirate? No, he had one leg,
so he's a fucking pirate. It is international
talk like a pirate day, so that's just fantastic,
actually. He had a fucking peg leg and he fucking
showed up with a fucking dick extender and a
gold vibrator and some lidocaine lube and a jar
of Nutella and some other shit. And then I knew
that he requested a Nutella, so I door -dashed
a giant jar of Nutella. So I asked him when we
were interviewing, where's your Nutella at, huh?
Where's it at? And then he found it. I said,
mine's bigger. And I pulled out my jar of Nutella.
I have no questions about almost any of that
until the jar of Nutella. I'm just going to wait.
He wasn't in shape. You know, he was a guy who
didn't like to diet, do any of that stuff. You
know, he needed the calories. And I even told
him, too. I got mad at him because I said, that
little jar of Nutella that you brought has 5
,400 calories in it. You're trying to give this
decoy diabetes? What the fuck is wrong with you?
You know? Let alone you're trying to be a raper.
You know what I mean? Like, you're trying to
do rape to people and stuff, and now you're trying
to get them fat, too, and spike their cholesterol
and give them diabetes? Like, what kind of monster
are you? Fuck! I think I found the video. I'm
trying to find it. I'm trying to find it. Cats
are here watching videos. I see it on the table.
I'm trying to find where you talk about it. They
might have edited it. Yeah, it wouldn't surprise
me. What got you guys into doing this shit? Just
one day you guys thought it would be a good idea
to go and catch these fuckers and record it?
No, I've always... I've always had a thing for
finding people that try to fuck kids and attacking
them. Even when I was wrestling, I didn't like
the way certain adults would talk to the teenage
girl that we had as a champion when I was at
box. And I would start to key in on their behaviors.
And if I didn't like anything, if I saw flirting,
if I saw something I didn't like, if I saw them
trying to hand her a weed pen, I would be up
their ass. And there was no winning that argument
once I started. Yeah. I got little girls in the
family, and they mean the world to me. I think
of them when I see these kids. So then I'm like,
okay, if I wouldn't want it done to the people
that I love more than anything in the world,
that means nobody's doing it ever if I ever find
out about it. So that's kind of my take on that.
I love my community. I want to make it better.
and then i got started because my buddy ian who's
a professional boxer ian morgan he's also a drunk
pirate uh have you guys watched did you see my
uh instagram uh just recently have you guys seen
my the pinned uh reel that i have up there where
i slinging the beer cans around with the guy
in the ring how dare you you invite me on a show
and you guys don't like Spam watch my shit and
like you know You're gonna have me on the show
you guys should have been rubbing your nipples
and watching my videos at the same time Who's
your guys's favorite fucking wrestler oh shit
Of all time or like right now yeah, just say
who's your favorite wrestler all time It doesn't
matter if Sting's your favorite fucking wrestler,
because I'm your favorite fucking wrestler now.
That's the fucking point I'm making. Nobody gives
a fuck who the fuck your favorite wrestler was.
Right now, and forever on, The Epic is your favorite
fucking wrestler. You're fucking welcome. I'm
getting broke. Fucking damn it. I'm getting broke.
Fucking amateurs. If you want to watch, I want
to watch Sting. Like, what the fuck? Like, you're
a part of an insect that stings somebody? Like,
what is a sting? You know? Like, the fucking
syphilis you get when you fucking have sex with
somebody you shouldn't have? That stings, apparently.
So I've heard. Yeah, gonorrhea? Like, what is
a sting, okay? I'm your favorite fucking wrestler.
Cody Rhodes? I don't give a fuck what road he
came from or where he traveled. American nightmare.
Can I think it's a second video on this I was
gonna say this it is That is a very beautiful
Yes, I did see this yeah, that's Ian that's the
drunk pirate he met scaling up before I met them
because Tanner from scaling up was gonna try
to box a guy named big SC boy who's in the strength
world and Ian trained Tanner at boxing where
they sparred together and Tanner found out that
Ian is fat, round, and fast and would knock the
snot out of your face. He hits like a fucking
tank and he moves like a fucking gazelle. I hate
him. Bro, no, he's so fucking annoying because
he shows up and he's got these buff, muscled
legs and his beer belly and he's sitting there
with his hairy stomach and his fucking bald,
stupid fucking head. And he's stronger than any
person I've ever met, pound for pound. I trained
him how to deadlift. His fourth ever deadlift,
he deadlifted to 650 pounds. Jesus. He squats,
like, 500 for reps, and he doesn't squat ever.
Okay? And then he's faster than anybody. He beat
my buddy Casey at a sprint. And Casey's a professional
athlete. So, like, I hate him. He'll do, like,
the back rolls where he pops up. He does everything
perfect. He just so annoying he's so gifted athletic
So I ruin it yeah, I have to talk shit about
him Look at him you're just like I'm just no
and they just do shit Yeah, this guy looks like
fucking Dan Aykroyd and he's over here just sleeping
people at boxing matches like you know like It's
fucking stupid. And then everyone says, oh, is
that your brother? First of all, I'm in shape.
Don't you ever say that on his fucking brother.
It's funny. My family came from Warsaw, Poland.
And he's Jewish on his mom's side. They're practicing,
you know what I mean? And I've always been trying
to find out where my family comes from. And then
you look at the lineage, and I might have the
Jewishness in my ancestors. So we always joke
about it. We're the same. We look the same too.
Same nose, the same features. It's beautiful.
So do you do any boxing matches at all? No, I
hate boxing. Here's something you guys might
not know about me. I actually tried to get to
a show with a synagogue and I want to fully start
practicing Judaism. That's cool. Yeah, it's because,
you know, their religion is kind of like, there
is a God, there isn't a God, there's just rules.
You know, like, I'm very curious. I like the
way, I like the principles that they have. So
I'm like, you know what? It'll work out. Let's
see where we're at. And then Ian's Jewish. All
my friends are Jewish. So, I don't know how that
worked out. One of those weird little quirks
of life where you're just kind of like, well,
this just happened. yeah and then there's a whole
calling my family literally immigrated here during
world war ii from warsaw poland so you know we
were on the wrong side of that war yeah yeah
yikes yeah now if you guys want to talk about
uh how i got into uh wrestling though it was
all aid related uh instances uh i say the guy
from a burning truck Or tried to save him. He
got stuck in there. And then the fire department
did the rest of the saving. But, you know, I
did a lot to break the door open. The whole thing
caught fire. Crazy incident. Anyways, washed
the blood out of my hair. And then I told my
girlfriend, I'm either going to die. God's going
to take me home. Or I'm going to get re -platformed.
Because I was canceled off the interwebs. Because
people are so sensitive. And then, sure enough,
somebody comes up and goes, Rikishi's my uncle.
And that guy lied to me because he's not his
uncle. Then I said I'm gonna get replatformed.
I'll be arrested. So that's the rest of the story.
Oh Did he even look Samoan to be believable?
No, no, he's actually the guy the cowboy hat
the Roger incident that lies about Yeah, he's
a fucking chronic liar Like so we've I don't
want to bring I don't want to bring his name
up or give up any more Yeah, I just say Louie
we sat and watched the I edited the whole lot
kick stream From like, you know what incident
is an incident and you can literally watch his
what he says on camera In on the kick stream.
It's like oh, yeah, this guy's a piece of shit.
Yeah. Oh, yeah yeah it's so good it's like you're
willing to open the lie and then jbl is like
oh all right you know i believe him i think he
did a good job clearing his name and he's just
trying to like save his face a little bit but
that wasn't a good look no did you watch the
video that's not a good look you think yeah jesus
i was in the chat too that was the best part
all right dude i'm the king of petty I'm a fucking
petty dude. If you fuck with me or you've done
wrong in the world and you've hurt people and
I find out about it and I can do something about
it, I will be up your ass and I will find ways
to fuck with you. I just hate bullies. I hate
shitty people. Speaking of all that event too,
were you trained in Knox Pro or were you just
working with them? I know I was trained by them
Ricky. She's the best coach anyone could ever
have but he's he's not if he would have been
there That incident would have never happened.
No. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we've all said that so he
Like with everything that happened He must be
like it must be devastating to him because he
you know, they tell me the WWE ID contract from
him and you know Which is embarrassing like in
all kinds of stuff. I actually I want to go back
and train with him from time to time. But I do
have an issue with some of the people that are
there and some of the people that said they quit.
Well, there's a whole thing. People quit because
they said they didn't know about a certain incident
or thing that happened. So they were trying to
feign ignorance. Like, I didn't know. And then
they put a whole grandstand on the Internet.
Like, I'm quitting. I can't believe this went
on under my nose. I should have known better.
Like, no, I tried. attack that person and hurt
them multiple times because i thought that they
were not good people and you know these people
put up with that and stuck up for that and had
this person over their house and there's that
incident that i don't want to get into but there's
that thing then there's the person that told
me something bad might happen who was also the
booker uh who's still there and i don't want
to see his ass And, like, you know, I wasn't
going to throw him under the bus or anything
like that. And I thought, like, maybe I'd be
peaceful. But then I just, the more I think about
it, and I'm like, fuck that guy. I was running
into the ring and fucking made eye contact with
you on my way in. You know, like, you were a
part of the whole thing in the back. If you didn't
think you were so special, like, the way that
he acted and the way that people acted, like,
you know how seniors act in high school? Like,
they're above everybody. Oh, yeah. yeah like
you only want to be my friend when i can do something
for you uh kind of kind of personality like and
then after it's all said and done you go and
you fucking have me go out there like i'm a fucking
attack dog and not even do nothing like i don't
know so i don't want to see that person i don't
want to see the other people uh so like and it
has nothing to do with rikishi so when i go there
i need to go with a clear mind no hate or anger
in my heart And be able to ignore those people,
train with Rikichi, and then leave and never
talk to those people. Right. See, and that was
the crazy thing, too, about the whole thing,
which... If I go, I still might not, because
I don't know if I can do that. I don't know how
to face it. I get that. Maybe, you know, sometimes
you could maybe throw a chat out to them and
say, hey, is there, like, we have, like, an off
-day training session or whatever, where it's
just you and me type thing, just to, you know,
stay away from the people that are causing problems.
That's true. He's busy. They'll come back and
kiss his ass. The problem is they'll come back
and kiss his ass and pretend like they were perfect
saints and they never knew. It's just one of
those situations. They're playing ratty games
where they're trying to get information on my
buddy who just did a podcast. Everyone knows
what you're doing. Every adult knows what you're
trying to do. Everyone knows how you acted before.
You know, you guys want to sit there and play
this little power trip game where you guys all
think that by somehow positioning yourself over
people, it makes you more valuable. But it's
like you're so self -serving, you're able to
knock down everybody else that has talent. For
me, I was always the number one ticket seller.
But then I also went as far as to even buy a
new pickup truck that had a... a ladder rack
or a full rack on it so i can help move stuff
for all of our shows and do stuff for the shows
right and though i would i work five to five
and some nights i would leave the domain after
training and helping build the place with my
bare hands and buying tools and building the
floor and all this other that i was doing for
them and i would leave there like one in the
morning and you know just so these people would
complain and and cry over over me doing too much.
I think that somehow I'm going to get favored
because they're all trying to get favored. Then
I get a message saying that it doesn't matter
how much sweat equity you put in this place or
how many tickets you sell, it doesn't help you
out here. You're not trying to do it to get favored.
You're just trying to do it because it needs
to get done. I'm like, all right, well, fuck
it then. Who else would have done that if you
didn't do it? Yeah, exactly. A lot of these fucking
people don't work. Yeah, exactly. And the thing
is, too, it's like, you know, I go and I do these
shows and I get told, hey, we got a Brock Lesnar
problem when it comes to booking you. Is it a
Brock Lesnar problem or is it you're a five foot
seven fat out of shape dude who thinks that you're
some Aztec warrior and you want to be Mr. Pachinko
and you. book yourself and you're always the
heavyweight champion and you're always putting
the title on yourself and you don't want attention
to go to anyone else because you want it to be
all about you. I think that's the case. I woke
up really violent today, so if you guys ask questions,
I'm bringing the fucking heat. I'm just tired.
I'm fed up with shit. I'm glad to say it's not
in Maine that shit happens. trust me, that happens
around here a little bit too. So all three of
us just went, huh? No, we know exactly what you're
talking about. Not naming names or nothing, but
just kind of like, hey, okay, yeah, yeah. We
get that. That's how I got canceled. I got canceled
because somebody took a screenshot of me with
feathers in my hair on Thanksgiving. So my girlfriend's
grandma put them in my hair. They're all from
Ecuador and the Dominican. And we had Muslims
and everybody over. Like I was the only white.
Only English -speaking person there. So I said,
what a beautiful country we live in. Like, we
should be happy that we can be around so many
cultures and speak so many languages. Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh, shit. He just got canceled. Doc, come
back. No. Does Zuck just... Some of Zuckerberg
jumped in this. It was laughing part of the culture.
We've got some people here saying stuff. My mom's
got the Polish in her, so she's the one that'll
be like, why are you not picking up? Call me
back. Are you okay? Is everything all right?
Are things fine? Are you okay? How's your mental
health? Is your mental health okay? Why are you
not answering my first 10 calls? My mom is French
-Irish, so she likes to switch everything backwards.
um so like really important she'll text me but
like the dumbest like where are the keys to the
four -wheeler she'll call me i love that yeah
my work she calls me i'm like panicking because
i'm like oh is my dad okay what's going on no
she's asking where the keys to the formula are
which dad had in his pocket the entire time You
better fucking know that. I had no clue. It had
been two weeks since I've been there. How dare
you? It's just fucking crazy how crazy people
are that they see somebody successful and the
first thing they want to do is ruin their life.
Yeah. That's always my biggest fear is the internet.
Especially how popular you are now. Yeah, and
I speak it out verbally a lot. to me like if
somebody were to do that it would be kind of
funny because if they actually knew what i'm
getting into that's why i brought up the fact
that i am going to go to show and i am going
to try to fully get involved in the jewish religion
because i'm getting older and i want to be more
involved in faith and then ian's having a son
uh his name is atlas and you know he's gonna
fully convert him over and i want to be more
involved with their life you know yeah if my
buddy phil Jewish my buddy Eric Silverman Jewish
My buddy Jason Robinson the Jewish like Yeah,
everybody Aaron Jewish, but they're all Jewish
like I don't know what you do Well, the homeboy
the last name Silverman is Jewish the hell you
say? Yeah, that's a very popular shooting We
got some chats in here too, by the way we get
a Crap you said how do y 'all thank you Doug
for acting with no many did not I think we all
said that. How crazy it was that it was a multi
-man match and it took you to stop what was happening.
Yeah, that was kind of insane. It's fucking crazy.
There were at least another four or five people.
And then, of course, what we found out was a
17 -year -old in the ring trying to... Sorry,
I've got to correct that. He's 18 now, guys.
He told me, Doug. Oh, he's 18 now. I'm a man.
And he's a man. It's still crazy that it didn't
have to take you jumping in from the back to
stop what was going on. We talked about this,
I think it was a couple weeks ago when we brought
this up again. This business, you're supposed
to be protecting each other. Everybody knows
what a work punch and what a shoot is. If there
was any of us around this area and that was one
of our friends, we would be in that fucking ring
immediately stopping it. We even made the joke,
like I said, our wrestling dad. That was one
of us because he's one of the trainers for our
school, the Limitless Dojo. It was one of the
students and that happened to him. we would have
to be pulling him off of them. Oh, yeah. He would
commit a felony real fast. So it's just crazy
that it took you to step in and literally just
watch basically almost a murder happen in the
ring. Yeah, honestly, it is crazy to me. The
more I think about it, it's like... And then
I don't know if you guys saw the back angle video
where I was throwing punches. I don't know if
you saw the process. I've been trying to find
other videos or whatever because I didn't see
it, but I heard that somebody covered Stu afterwards,
after the whole thing happened. That angle video
shows me throwing punches from that angle. like
that's why when i did him in a corner he slipped
and after out of my under hook when everyone
got under me and him and they got to distance
it took my under hook away and he slipped it
through that punch and he actually cut my eye
open so i head butt him when as soon as he punched
me i that's what i looked at him and head butt
him immediately and then i threw a left i threw
a hook on the hand and then i went flushed him
in the forehead and the right uh right and he
had his guard up pretty good he had a tight little
guard uh but then right when i was gonna throw
more uh, my buddy, his characters, uh, Ray Rico
pulled me off of him and he was trying to remind
me, Hey, there's kids like, you know, like fucking,
you know, like got to fuck down. And then he,
he also had to stop me from going outside too,
because after Roger was left to walk out, I found
out and I said, fuck that. And I went outside
to go fight him again. Oh shit. That's what he
took. Yeah. No, I lost my shit. When I saw the
blood pour down on my chest, I lost my absolute
shit. I get that because I'm a little bit like
that when I've been in three fights in my entire
life. Getting hit, I just kind of usually laugh,
but if I see blood, I'm like, oh, okay, now you
die. Yeah, I go for the throw. Typically, if
you get me into a fight, I go for the pain, but
I would just try to control it a little bit,
but if somebody gets my adrenaline going too
much, I am notorious. If I throw a tantrum, I'll
just put it this way. When I throw tantrums,
I'm inconsolable. From the moment I was born
and put in this world, the minute I lose it,
I bite, I scratch, I gouge eyes, I'll bite facial
features. I don't care. I wish I wasn't that
way, but those are natural reactions for me.
That's what I'm saying. Someone in the chat,
and I'm sure you heard this, I guess Raja got
arrested today? No, yesterday. Yesterday. I did
a video on it. And then my buddies from Scaling
Up came over with half a gallon of milk. I saw
that. I was watching that before you came on.
You guys were discussing that. Speaking of another
thing I forgot to mention. Eric is Jewish. Oh,
that's that. I was talking about how many of
the people in my life are Jewish. I'm caught
that up. I was like, wait. It took a second.
I was like, wait a minute. Easy there, you bigot.
We have a buddy named Eric. And I was like, Eric's
Jewish? We have a buddy named Eric Johnson. How
the fuck do you know Eric Johnson? That's where
our brains went. Eric Koneski from Scaling Up.
To me, Those are like, I listen to God a lot.
And that's how I got into wrestling. I told you
guys, I felt like God was going to take my life
or I was going to get re -platformed, right?
So I look at all the parts and pieces around
my life and I'm like, what's my next step? Where
am I going with this? And it doesn't mean I got
to fully convert, but I'm just, I have to go
place my curiosity in all of this. Like, why
are all these people around me? So we do have
a question here in the chat, which is a good
one. Have you worked any shows since the incident?
No. No? no oh wait wait wait i did show up i
got invited to hollywood championship wrestling
and they asked me if i brought my yeah they asked
me if i brought my gear and i said it's covered
in blood so now i showed up just to show up to
get out because like i need to get some i need
to like i wanted to get the energy out of me
in public um so my buddy alex uh his name is
alex his working name is alex invited me and
a guy named emir the master uh invited me and
i have a new project coming now i got some i
got some some heat to drop for you guys on rlb
so i'll be in hollywood championship wrestling
on tuesday uh the same place i was at and they
had me walk out as the bodyguard to the heel
uh who's the champion and i'm like i'm a super
baby face right now but you want me to be a heel
like yeah yeah it was so funny some guy was like
yeah some guy was yelling at me like you're not
lance archer Fuck you. You're not Lance Archer.
Bootleg ass Lance Archer. Chivu Lance Archer.
Do you get Lance Archer more than Aleister Black?
When I have my hair red, I get Lance Archer.
When I have my regular hair, I get Aleister Black.
I can see it. It never fucking stops. But I told
that guy, he's like, oh, you're not this. You're
not that. I was like, I'm still your fucking
daddy, you fat prick. And the fucking audience
is like, oh, shit. I was like, you want me to
be a heel? Let's fucking go. Who wants this shit?
Yeah. Some guy was like, fucking, our match is
going on. I think I told somebody, I was like,
focus on your ugly wife and quit looking over
here. I don't give a shit, bro. I go for the
throat. So prior to all of this happening, what
was your biggest match that you've had in your
career? leading up to all Raja and everything
and getting blown up on the internet. What was
the biggest match you've had? I was doing tag
stuff with Alex Ace. My singles matches, I wrestled
Reno, Anna White, Rikishi's cousin. Solo, I did
a couple of handicap matches where I just dragged
people. I had a whole thing where I was going
up against the Samoans. It was me versus all
the Samoans, basically. Did you get stuck with
Offa? With who? With Offa. Dude, I was in the
ring with Offa Jr. for a second. So we were doing
a hardcore tag team thing in Vegas. Like a rumble,
right? And we had chairs and ladders and tables,
shit flying everywhere. And Offa Jr. came in
and I fucking hear the crowd pop because he hit
somebody with a chair. And he was putting it
back together and he's all fired up. And I looked
and I was like, oh, I'm going to get him going.
So I ran at him and said, swing that shit, pussy.
And he fucking just, bam, and he broke the chair
off my head. And I bumped onto the concrete for
him. And he's trying not to laugh because I'm
cracking up. I had to roll into the curtain and
I was like, loser. I had so much fun. And then
Hoka from Reality of Wrestling and Ati were a
team. And I absolutely love Ati. That guy is
one of my most favorite fucking people I've ever
had the pleasure of sharing a ring with. I told
him, like, hey, dude, like, I want to rest because
we're going to be in here for a while. So if
you're by the steel barricades, I need you to
do me a favor. Stay there for a second. But when
you see me, get the fuck out of the way because
I'm going to spear it. And he goes, what? I'm
like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to fucking eat that
shit. I'm going to try to break the barricade.
And he goes, don't do that. It's crazy. I'm like,
I'm going to do it. And I said, get a kendo stick
to break it off my head. So I saw him and I speared
the barricade and I hit that shit. I was like,
oh, that was way stiffer than I thought. And
I'm just laying there like that was a mistake.
Oh, my God. That sucks so bad. And then he grabs
the kendo stick and I'm like, oh, damn it. And
we we kind of like talk a little bit about this.
Yeah. Yeah. So he got up like that. And then
he hit me in like the side of the head and cut
my ear and my side of my head open. And it just
like. And I was like, fuck it. And then I told
him, do it again. I'm looking at him like, get
me. So he fucking square flushed down the center
of the head. And I laughed. And when I was falling
forward, I ball tapped him. And we're both laying
on the ground laughing our ass off, just taking
a breather. The ball tap would be something Ben
would do, 100%. And then we kept fighting when
we were laying on the floor. If I was laying
on the floor next to him, I'd hit him in the
head and he'd hit me back. And the people on
the sidelines were cracking up. I love that guy
so much for just being an entertainer with me.
Like the little cheeky shit, you know? It wasn't
like that. I've done some matches where I suplexed
that guy. His name is Oak. He's a really good
worker. He was told to put me over. It was supposed
to be like a squash, but I told him to come out
hot and heavy. get some stuff here and there.
We didn't have much time. I was always booked
strong independently until I had to face anybody
like the booker or whoever controlled the people.
What's the biggest bump or most dangerous bump
that you've ever taken in your whole career?
The one that almost paralyzed me in Vegas. Oh,
geez. What was that? Yeah. I was going to flip
myself out of the ring during the rumble. I was
going to have my buddy eliminate me. And I got
caught up on the ropes because I don't think
he flipped me as hard as he could or I didn't
jump right. Something was off. And I told him
to push my legs over. So he pushed my legs over.
And when I went to clear, I didn't push away
from the ring. So my spine hit the angle iron,
like the raw iron on the side of the ring. And
my feet didn't even touch the floor. Shorted
the floor. Oh my gosh. It hurt really bad. I
loaded my motorcycle up that night. We left.
I went to the gym two days later. I felt funny.
I'm kind of a psychopath. If I feel pain, I'll
purposely lift heavier to teach my body that
I'm in charge. I deadlifted 735. That day. And
I was sitting there like, oh, that wasn't...
Yeah. So I was like, that wasn't smart. And I
never fucking go into work the next day. And
as I'm going to work, like, my left leg's starting
to feel really numb. And my right foot's losing
strength. And I get to the yard and I'm trying
to move around. And I'm sitting there doing stuff
on the tablet, signing up for work. And before
I know it, I can't move my legs with my brain.
I started freaking out. I started crying. I couldn't
move my legs with my brain. I couldn't move involuntarily.
I get out of the truck. I'm moving around. It's
not like they went down like they fell asleep.
I didn't feel them at all. The neck was not there
anymore. It wasn't like you sit on the toilet
too long. It was not there at all. Holy shit.
I got helped, walked around a little bit with
help, and I'm trying to move them, but my legs
are doing the hyperextending at the knees, and
I'm really weak. I get myself into the truck.
My feet are moving a little bit. I'm like, I'm
going to drive home. That was stupid. I get home,
and I can finally feel all the way down to my
knees, and I just can't feel my calves and my
feet, so I'm dragging my feet while I'm walking.
That happened and that was the worst pop I've
ever other than that all blocks feel like fucking
they're just whatever That kind of sounds like
what happened with Sean with the casket, you
know He just took a like it looked like a normal
bump on the casket and then he couldn't move
his legs in the morning Yeah reason why I had
to retire for so long Yeah, didn't he have a
surgery or he just walked it off Having a surgery.
Yeah, I think you had to have a surgery and and
uh they said this in the documentary so i don't
know if it's true or not but he was also on like
very very like hard drugs uh yeah like a handful
of pills yeah pills and shit so they that was
the other half of the reason why they let him
go and he just did his own shit and eventually
was able to come back but yeah we had a guy uh
mbk wasn't that how he broke his leg he slammed
his leg against the uh when he went out over
the uh top rope for the rumble he hit really
weird going down to the floor and his leg went
yep everyone told him don't take the boots off
don't take the boots off they took the boots
off and well bad things happened yeah well you
know yeah so that was the worst one other than
that like like alex and ace uh alex ace and i
like we we do dumb you know like we have fun
like very safe stuff but I'm a very controlled
type of style. I I like the brawl with people.
I have a my own thing where I set up a Comeback
with it's called potato city. Oh When you just
you and the other guy just throwing punches at
each other Yeah, yeah, and I started it but it's
such a crowd reaction other wrestlers have asked
me like hey, bro Like and I and I do potato sitting
with you And i'm like, yeah, I love that that
bro like you have no idea It's like it's like
a thing like once you see it and you see the
reactions of the crowd Because the way we throw
the punches like when we did it in vegas. Everyone
was like holy shit like This is a fight, you
know uh, because we throw them snug clean and
like We have a rule like if I tag you and I wobble
you hit me in the body And he tagged me in vegas
with a fucking hook So hard. I was like, fuck,
I can't see. Everything's gray, you prick. And
he hit me again. I'm like, stop hitting me. So
I kicked him like a full on roundhouse to the
appendix. And he was like, shit. And I was like,
shut up. Yeah. I was like, shut up. And then
he came back and said, take a bump. I was like,
I still can't see you, bitch. When I found a
Kendo stick and a ring, I was like, you're so
getting this, you fucking twat. And I saw him
and like. He's a drunk in his character, so we
have fun. So while I'm hitting him in the ass
with this kendo stick, the crowd's going crazy.
And then we didn't realize that the kendo stick
was made out of bamboo. So he had, like, bloody
welts. I mean, eye for his ass. Oh, like a legit
kendo stick. Yeah, so, like, I have a scar on
my arm. But when he gave it back to me during
that beer spot at the little ring that we were
in, that video I told you guys to look up. He
actually sliced my arm with that same kendo stick.
No shit. It's just a fucked up kendo stick. The
guy who made it was not a skilled worker. He
was brand new to wrestling and he just wanted
to make weapons for extra money. And he didn't
really understand everything. So he wants to
do hardcore. He means well. He's a good kid.
He doesn't know how to gimmick shit. No, no,
no, no. He fucked us a broad daylight on that
one. No lipstick, no fucking, no nothing, no
lube, just fucking broad daylight in front of
everybody. Like, here's a candlestick made of
bamboo. Just like when we went through the bar
door, he started cutting a few of them, and he's
like, eh, the rest is fine. And oh my god, that
fucking sucked. That sucked so bad going through
that. I hate going through doors. I jumped through
a door in Vegas to eliminate myself in the rubble.
Like I said, there's certain people that need
to be the center of attention. But I don't mind
working with people like that because it just
makes me more creative. I'm not going to let
you punch me and pin me. I'm going to fuck myself
with so much grandiosity that it's going to be
great. I like fucking fully jumped into a fucking
door, but like when I ate it up 260 pounds most
of the year So when I went through the door,
I like shot through it and hit my neck on the
turnbuckle my ass on the ground I'm like, oh
that was a mistake Yeah, either worse is hitting
your butthole on the canvas. I don't think I've
done that. I've done that. Yes Yeah, stop doing
Bulldogs for that reason yeah, bro, you fucking
you like fuckers are your Your stuff's so bad,
it's like, oh my god, I think I prolapsed. I
thought I tore my asshole. Yeah. Uncle Ring just
goes in and just does dirty shit to you, and
you're like, god damn it, this is fucked up.
I'll end up doing one or two things. I'll either
land on my hip really badly, then all of a sudden
I can't walk for a day, or yeah, right in my
asshole. One of the two. Are you alright in there?
If you're choking, just tell me to take it out,
bud. as someone that has gone through like 50
like to 100 doors in his career the one time
that i went through one door that decided not
to be hollowed out i thought my entire body just
went into paralysis and i was like i'm kind of
contemplating all my life decisions right now
because somebody brought an exterior like fully
solid door and those solid doors is a whole new
meaning when you try to snap through those. An
exterior door is different than an inside door.
It's a general construction variation of it.
We had somebody throw a piece of a door at me.
I had a match where the guy in the match blew
his knee out and he's a friend of mine. But he's
a fucking dick for what he did. So he blew his
knee out. He threw a tantrum. His life wasn't
going his way. All the things in his life were
falling apart. So he decided he was going to
have a moment in a ring with a chair with me,
which is how I was going to get, we were going
to have a smudge. But he hit me in the back of
the head with a chair and laced my head wide
open. I came in, it was pre -cut. It was already
pre -cut back there, right? Because, no, no,
not pre -cum, you know what I mean? Not what's
in your mouth. So I had a free cut on the back
of my head. Hold on. Daddy's talking, guys. Hey,
hey, hey. Daddy's talking. All right. I'm kidding.
I'm fucked up. I'm sorry. Oh, my God. Trauma
from your childhood. You just activated my trauma.
That's your trauma? I called that breakfast.
Anyways, so I had to get straight A somehow or
Daddy was going to be mad. I had this fucking
cut on the back of my head. It was all fucked
up. So then I super glued it before I went into
this match. He fucking sliced this cut wide open.
And then he's teeing off on me with the chair
so many times. And I'm like, when are we going
to call this and eliminate it? Because I gave
him a razor's edge after he blew his knee out.
And he kicked out. So then I gave him another
one. I was like, asshole, go home. Your knee's
blown out. But he wanted to get all the way to
the smosh. But then he got so blood hurt that
his knee's blown out. He took liberties on me
with the chair. And I turned around in the middle
of his last chair shot, and I looked at him.
I said, if you hit me with that again, I'm going
to kick your good knee out. Look at me. I was
like, the match is over. And we got to the RV,
and I told him, I was like, I know you've been
having a rough time in life. I'm going to give
you one free pass, and I'm going to let this
go after that. But if you ever do this again,
if you ever take your anger out on me, if you
ever so much as fucking cross me the wrong way,
I'll fucking end you. I was like, but we're good.
Shake my hand. We're fine now. We'll let this
go. Tonight we good. I put myself in his shoes.
I understand how we got to that amount of internal
not okayness. I happen to be front and center
for all of that. He's not a bad guy. He's a sweetheart
of a human. He's a sweetheart. I can't say enough
good things about him. It was just one bad moment.
We need to get you to the East Coast ASAP. On
our shows up here. As long as people want to
have fun, you know, I don't want to go up there
and everyone's a bunch of fucking assholes in
New Yorkers. JP, JP. Yeah, you say that, but
New York club is different. New York club, they
make fun of you, they steal your car, they fuck
your girlfriend, and they're like, yo, welcome
to New York. What's up? Come on, you guys. Could
you imagine Doug and Gino's? Oh my God. We have
a rock club down here in our area. That's like
the greatest wrestling crowd ever. And they love
everything. You could literally come out and
sing metal. Absolutely. They'd probably love
that. I had a band play me out at the last show
that we did at Gino's because like we had a metal
band playing there and we just, I was like, fuck
it, have them play me out. And it was the greatest
fucking thing ever. My buddy Rob shit has a band
and he's also a worker and he's a really good
worker. You guys should book us out there and
me and Rob will come out there and he'll bring
his van and we'll tear the whole house out. I
would see that happening at Gino's. It'd be fucking
amazing. If I just come out and start fucking
doing my shit, let's go. Is Lee still in the
chat? Let's get Lee to get in Larry's ear. Get
into Larry's ear, Lee. The whole door thing,
though, reminded me of this fucking spot. um
it was msp versus pos at uh for um the election
championship that piece of is what they're they're
really phenomenal pieces yeah we love they were
very phenomenal pieces that's not the right video
that was not the right video that's not the right
video that was the podcast i was watching um
scaling up podcasts i was watching i was uh doug
what's the craziest hardcore or death match that
you've done in your career I don't do death matches.
If you put me in a death match and yeah, cause
I don't want, I have tattoos everywhere. And
like, I have more tattoos coming. Like my tattoo
artist is actually going to finish the rest of
my right arm, like all the way down to the fingertips.
So all of this is going to be covered. Right.
So like, that's, what's coming in next. I just
haven't been able to get an appointment with
him. Cause he's been busy. I've been busy and
he's a giant wrestling fan. And and I just love
I can't this is his Instagram is Joe tattoo,
but he's done all of my my shit Outside of Carl
Huggins who's in New York. So if I go to New
York Or maybe Carl's back in Virginia either
way if I go to the East Coast for any reason
I'm gonna go get tattooed Probably by Carl because
I love Carl and you don't scarve your tattoos.
I kind of yeah If you fuck up my tattoo, bro,
like I especially like This is a memorial for
my best friend who meant more to me in the world.
I literally cry every day at some moment thinking
about my best friend. I miss him more than anything
in the world. He was everything that was great
in my life. And I've had to relearn how to be
a human and a man and everything because I didn't
realize how much I leaned on my friendship to
propel myself through the world. And then when
he left, I felt more alone than I've ever felt
in my life. It was the worst feeling in my life.
Even when I wrestle, it's literally for him.
I never wanted to be a wrestler. I never liked
wrestling that much. I thought it was lame. I
thought having a title was the stupidest thing
in the world. After he passed away, I started
getting into it and I still didn't like it. Then
I fell in love with it and I feel more connected
to him than I've ever felt in my life. To me,
if someone fucks up my tattoo, especially his
gravestone or something like that, I might take
it a little personally. I totally understand.
I respect that. The exact same reason why I do
wrestling is because of my dad. My dad's the
reason why I got into wrestling. And my dad passed
away six months before I ever had my first wrestling
match. And that was 11 years ago. So now it's
been 11 years and my dad never saw me wrestle.
He didn't even know I was training. He just heard
little spurts where I told him about stuff about
indie wrestling. But he didn't know that I was
training because I was going to... wait to tell
him like when i had my first match and just be
like hey come to this thing and check this out
and had not even like don't even tell him and
it was like six months after he passed away so
i totally understand i respect that yeah yeah
it's a lot dude and like i i work as a truck
driver and like everything now for wrestling
and and getting over getting over to me like
you know the financial side of it like that would
be great that's a tight dream of mine like Everyone's
like, what would you do if you got over at wrestling?
And I'm like, I'd still be poor. I got to take
care of Abe's daughter. I got to make sure that
she's okay. Even now, I don't have enough money.
We live in California. It's expensive shit to
really help her do anything. She's autistic.
She's developmentally delayed. I want to be there
more for her. I want to be there for my mom as
she's getting older. I have all these things
going on, like my nephew. that that's what like
wrestling to me it's all of that you know so
like it's not just the cool spots it's not this
i want to entertain the fans i want to get people
moving i want them to feel a piece of me when
i'm out there like you know when i'm screaming
and i'm yelling and like it's actually coming
from my soul when i'm yelling i'm in the ring
and i'm all fired up and powered up like that's
all my pain in life that's coming out right now
you know there's a lot yeah And that's usually
the wrestlers that fucking make it, is the ones
that actually, you know, they want to put on
a show. They're not just being fucking marks,
saying, oh, now I'm a wrestler. I'm going to
make everything about myself and shit like that.
It's all about the fans. I have the kids that
were at the show, too, with the Raja incident.
A lot of them, or at least a couple of them,
are coming to my debut in Hollywood Championship
Wrestling. you know i have so many people that
want to go up and support do all that stuff and
it's like imagine thinking that you're so cool
and you're so important that people are going
to take their time to spend their life their
energy their their fucking air and give it to
you and you can't reciprocate an ounce for them
like nobody's that special none of us are that
special to think that we deserve any of that
like anytime that somebody gives us their time
their energy and like their attention Like, that's
so valuable. That's more valuable than any fucking
dollar. You know? And that means something to
me. So, like, I need to give them my all. I need
to give them everything. That's, like, a lot
of the reasons why I do free merch when I go
to shows. I'll come and, like, I bought 30 hats,
right, for this next, for my debut match at Hollywood
Championship Wrestling. I'm going to give every
single one of them out for free. Wow. That's
cool. Because I love everybody. I want them to
show up and feel like they're a part of this.
They belong here because they do belong here.
They are a part of this. This is a piece of me
to you. This is not just you showing up for a
wrestler that doesn't give a fuck about you.
This is you showing up for somebody that wants
to share energy with you. This is a piece of
my life. I'm not doing this because I need the
attention. I'm doing this because it reminds
me of family and all the good times that i had
in my life like you know it it's simple you know
yeah yeah like i don't know man wrestling yeah
it's a lot more than that yeah i hope you uh
you get really successful at it you know you
were literally saying uh i don't know if it was
on the pod or beforehand that wwe and aw is looking
at you and possibility there Yeah, well, I got
a call from somebody in one of those organizations.
Whether they're looking at me for talent or they
didn't, you know, I'd have to be on the radar
if they didn't, you know. I've done extra work.
I might be. So here's the nugget. I'm not doing
anything there tomorrow, but I'm just going to
go meet people. I'll be at PCW tomorrow in Hollywood.
I'm just going to show up, shake hands with people,
get to know some of the people. I have something
coming on October the 4th where I will be making
an appearance somewhere. It's top secret. It's
top secret. It's like a major league thing. I
got this new group coming. Well, I've had a group
with me, Sophia, and Alex Ace, Epic and Ace.
Top secret, but I'm going to get into it. Huh?
I said top secret, but let me talk about it.
Yeah, man. That's been a thing. That's not top
secret. I already told you. I literally dropped
the breadcrumbs for what was top secret. If you
were listening, you would have heard it. Yeah,
I got it. I got what you were saying. You want
me to repeat it so I can make it obvious? You
want me to wink at you now that I'm horny? You
want me to show you, big boy? You want me to
show you? Do I need to turn you on a little more?
Stop it. You're making me flustered. I think
JP's about to fall over. I'm going to make you
flustered to your question, big boy. I'm going
to make a sticker. I'm not going to stop it until
I get a pop out of you, motherfucker. I don't
care how many fingers it takes. What's the farthest
you've traveled in your career as far as location?
I know you're on the West Coast, so you're in
California. I was spoiled. I didn't have to do
shit. I went to Berkeley and I went to fucking
Knox because we had so many shows popping up.
And then they weren't allowing me. So the motherfuckers
like all my footage and like all the pictures
of me, you know, there's not a lot of it. I was
wondering. It's all super fucking suppressed.
Every time I've done something, it just gets
pushed right down. Wild. Like if people came
to take pictures of the show or do this or do
that. Like I had a photographer come and show
me pictures that he took of me like a year ago.
We have that problem here. We have a big problem.
Yeah. Yeah, one of the big things we have here
is people like, oh yeah, we filmed the show.
Cool, where's the footage? Oh, we'll get it out
eventually. Oh no, it wasn't that. They gave
the footage over to people and those people said,
fuck you to me. Really? Yeah. I'm telling you,
bro. I'm a heat magnet where I was in that organization
because I had free will and I worked hard and
I'm one of those people that'll just make things
happen. I'm competitive. I'm going to want to
sell every fucking ticket I can. I'm going to
want to beat everybody in sales. I'm going to
want to work harder than everybody. I'm going
to want to do more. I have construction experience.
I have all these things that I've done in life.
I'm a workhorse, you know what I mean? Bringing
it into what I'm introducing, again, since I
just mentioned a workhorse, okay? I have a new
group showing up, and it's with Alex Ace, Little
Nightmare, a .k .a. Sophia, and a soon -to -be
-announced person. I don't want to put it out
there yet, but it's called Battalion. I'm the
Battalion Stallion, baby. I'm the workhorse of
the group. I'm the greatest thing that's ever
happened to that group. Without me, they're really
in shit. Anyways, back to my topic. I lost myself.
Sorry, I got a profile and now I'm lost. Help.
Help. What was I talking about? You were talking
about where you said you're putting in all this
work. You know, there's a jealousy. It seems
like... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. No,
that's... Tell me more. Tell me more about what
I was saying. Yeah, yeah. You were putting all
this work in and, you know, you having this footage
and shit like that, but they're, you know, refusing
to give it to you. Oh, yeah. Told I can't work
anywhere else. Meanwhile, if... you were related
or not even related if you were adjacent you
could work anywhere you want for money and get
footage work with people i wasn't allowed to
go anywhere because we're no we don't want you
to get buried we're trying to protect you meanwhile
i get jumped by an entire fucking family when
i sold the most tickets and i did all the shit
you guys are standing like baby faces in the
ring afterwards but not the baby face uh Yeah,
it's kind of like, okay, you didn't do that for
you? You sure you didn't do this for you? Because
you guys are always putting yourselves over,
even though I'm the one who sells all the tickets
and does all the work. You guys are always the
one that has to have the glory of the day at
every show. And it became so bad that people
that came to see me would just say, why do I
want to keep showing up to your matches when
I know that the people who are booking the matches
are doing this? It was always the same outcome.
Wow. Yeah. And then you add in like the hidden
pictures and all the other shit, you know? Yeah.
And you'll never hear a peep out of those people,
you know, cause if they ever came online, like
Doug's, what he's saying is not true. I have
an army of people that witnessed it, that were
there and a part of the organization that would
just come out and be like, no, all of it's true.
And here's more information. I'm the gatekeeper.
Like I'm the guy holding the floodgates from
opening. Yeah, it just seems like a massive jealousy
thing. They see how talented you are, and they
want to make sure that you don't get their spot,
is what it sounds like to me. Yeah, it's been
pretty shitty. I'm not going to lie. And I know
that's common in wrestling. I still got to be
a better worker. I still have so much to learn,
right? I've never done lucha, so I went to Santino's,
and I worked with him. I fucking forgot his name.
I wish I could plug him right now. Great fucking
trainer. And he was teaching me lucha shit, you
know? But he has me rolling around all day like
a fucking flea in a lightweight. And, like, eventually
I was like, wow, I'm going to go throw up. I
walked outside, threw up, came back in, started
doing more drills. I was like, I'm going to throw
up again. You know, it was real hot out here,
too. It was like 95 degrees. But I'd throw up
again, go back and train. I'm like, lucha is
a lot of rolling and spinning. You know, like,
this is a lot of stuff here. But I realized,
like, hey, I need to do more lucha. Because there's
a timing aspect to this that I should pick up.
There's so much more that I want to expand into.
I feel that Lucha thing. We did a seminar a couple
years ago with, let's say, Dorado. He's like,
all right, we're going to do this, this, this,
this, this, this. And you're just like, okay.
And then it's just like... Jump roll, jump roll,
back roll, back roll, jump through. Yeah, it's
like, wow, okay. Yeah, yeah, I'm good at all
that shit. Like the rolls, I'm a fucking stud,
right? You know, it's just certain things where
it's like, we're going to, you're going to do
a roll, jump onto the fucking rope, do a 180
and then do a roll and then do it again and do
it again and do it again. And I'm like, motherfucker,
like, I'm going to get the spins over here. The
world's not going to fucking work out for me
in five seconds. It's just hard to pick it up.
It wasn't hard. It was just different. I'm not
used to that. I like to stand big and walk around
and be a character. I'm a power move guy. I like
to brawl. All the flips and all the cute shit,
I say that for people who do it better. When
I wrestled in a... And they had the Lucha Kings
there. You know what I mean? I'm thinking to
myself, why would anybody go off the top rope
when the Lucha Kings are here? Have you guys
seen their work? No. It sounds familiar. Some
of the prettiest aerial shit I've ever seen.
So safe, so clean. Lucha Kings. So good, bro.
you're in the match and you're like, I want to
see it. You're like low key. Like, I gotta, I
gotta see the show. You're just good. So like,
I make sure if I'm in a match with them, I make
sure that, you know, I clear people out of the
way and they can get their stuff done safely,
you know, or, or be present enough because I
want the crowd to see their, their, their work.
Cause I know it'll work. The crowd will enjoy
it. Right. So like, you know, all the things
that I want to work at is I gotta get more exposure
to be in, the ring with people like that, so
now I can put the pieces together a little better.
I don't know. There's just so much to do. I don't
feel like I'll ever be happy or complete with
wrestling because there's so many things to learn
and do and so many different people and styles.
Yeah. What is your favorite wrestling move, Bill?
My favorite wrestling move? Probably the razor's
edge because everyone tries to squirm away from
it. I was about ready to look this up. I completely
forgot that we talked about this and we forgot
to go back to it. So POS versus MSP. Oh, yeah.
Throwing the chair. It reminded me of this spot.
So they had a fucking piece of pine that was
not gimmicked. Oh, it's like a pine piece of
wood. It was a piece of wood. Pure pine wood.
And he goes to swing at Danger Kid and he pulls
the ref in and he hits our ref. His name is Eric
Greenleaf. And it wasn't, I guess, I don't know
if Danger Kid thought that wasn't good enough
or just to up it a little bit. I'm pretty sure
it was personal. Or maybe it was something that
he did personally. He takes this pine and fucking
swings for the fences and breaks it. He chipped
it. He didn't shatter it. He didn't break it.
He chipped it. That's how thick the piece of
wood was. It was like an inch thick. I could
kill somebody. Yeah, good. He could have killed
him. Absolutely. He could have killed him. But
just the reaction of it happening, some people
were shocked, but then some people kind of just
laughed because this was the type of thing they
expected this to happen to a certain referee.
I'm good. Yeah, he's like, I got hit with a...
Fuck that. He wasn't. I got hit. I got hit with
a fucking goal stick, like a hockey stick, a
shoe fucking hockey stick. Yeah. The fucking,
the booker who likes to fucking take liberties
on people is supposed to be a kendo stick. So
he goes out of the ring and finds a real live
action goalie stick and doesn't try to do a safe
shot or anything. He fucking lays it across my
back, my neck and my head so bad. After he already
tore a piece of my scalp when he ripped some
of my brains out and he tore a lot of my real
hair out. and popped my fucking eardrum because
he's a fucking asshole. He popped my eardrum.
He's a fat fucking loser. And I'm like looking
at him like, bro, you just popped my eardrum.
Are you fucking kidding me? Like I'm trying not
to shoot on this guy because he's the booker.
And I'm trying to, you know, trying to fucking
keep my composure. And then at the end of the
match, he hits me with his fucking hockey stick.
And you could see the bruising all the way down
my back and like the pot capillaries, the burst
blood vessels all the way through my back where
he hit me. And in the back of my fucking head,
all the way up my neck. So I got to ask, with
a goalie stick, did he hit you flat side with
it or edge with it? It was like, I think the
curbside. Okay, that's still pretty bad, but
at least you hit the back edge of it. But the
week after, he hit me with a regular fucking
shoot hockey stick, carbon fiber. Regular hockey
stick. And he hit me in the kidney and I was
pissing blood. But I didn't sell that shit. I
was so fucking bad when he fucking hit me with
that shit, I fucking no -sold it. And I just
fucking turned around like, alright, let's go.
You take it like this is going up your ass. Actually,
to be fair, the carbon fiber sticks, you're lucky
the thing didn't explode on you. So, I just instantly...
Carbon fiber hurts, bro. i just instantly remembered
when you're referring to the when you're referring
to the kendo stick earlier on um about how it'd
be like real bamboo or whatever i remember having
a fans bring the weapons match and some fam brought
actual bamboo like like live like real authentic
bamboo they had wrapped together into a bundle
and i had my best friend who was our wrestling
dad literally whip it at me and it wrapped around
my fucking arm and instantly bruised me on the
fucking spot. I had laceration marks because
that bamboo material will literally open you
up like a fucking seam. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, it
hurts. Yeah, bamboo is nothing to fuck with.
I just instantly remembered that when you were
talking about the whole... Bamboo and roots ain't
clan, bro. Ain't nothing to fuck with. Ain't
nothing to fuck with. So, I found some Lucha
Kings. These are the guys that hopefully you're
talking about, and I was watching them a little
bit. They're so fucking cool. They're so cool.
Like, if you ever want to spotlight a fucking
group that doesn't get enough attention, it's
those fucking guys. Watch it a little bit. This
is pure fucking Lucha shit right here. Yeah.
Like, look up the aerial stuff that they do.
See probably in this match right here right here
lucha lucha kings versus the wild Jamaicans With
the wild Jamaicans booked up here a little while
ago, I think Yeah, yeah, maybe just booked them
like a couple months ago Doug have you been in
the Northeast? What was last time you been in
the Northeast Black speak when i was in the military
and i drove up there to have sex with some chick
what a fucking answer yeah yeah i was like i'm
gonna try maybe not not a real life perspective
uh for wrestling uh I'll go out there and have
sex with you guys and I can wrestle. Limitless
wrestling. I bet they would love to have you.
Limitless is the biggest. Wait, wait, hold on
a second. For wrestling or because of the joke
I just made? You know what I mean? I've been
trying to fucking book me into a goddamn wrestle
orgy. All right. Like, you know, I have fucking
morals. That'd be going back in the early 2000s.
There used to be some fucked up shit like that.
No, but it's called Limitless Wrestling. It's
our biggest promotion. It's one of the biggest
promotions in New England. There's always guys
coming from WWE, AEW. We literally just had the
Hardy Boys. We had the biggest main show in I
think they said either of all time or in X amount
of years. We had over 2 ,000 people. I'm pretty
sure there's more people in the Coliseum for
Limitless than there was for the ROH show that
was there. Oh, yeah. That's what Randy was saying,
that there was more people in the Limitless show
than there was ROH back, like, it was, like,
what, like, 10, 15 years ago? Yeah, and the ROH
show had, like, Cody the Box Hangman. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So, yeah, if you should shoot Randy Carver
Jr. a message, maybe you can get yourself booked
for Limitless Wrestling. I think you would enjoy
the... The work talent around here. That would
be fun. A lot of crazy fucking people. Oh my
god, him versus fucking... Him and Rip Bison
would be fucking great. Rip Bison or fucking...
Oh, shit. Conan Lycan. Conan Beef. Beef? Beef
would be... Gabby's husband. Gabby's boyfriend
or husband. Oh, Bear Bronson. Bear Bronson would
be a fucking great match. I'd be down. Bear Bronson
is a fucking crazy motherfucker. You should definitely
reach out and see because I wouldn't be surprised
if you would. Would they want to book me as a
single or do you think they'd be down? If I can
get my group out, I have a new faction, Battalion,
and I want to get them out as much because Alex
Ace is seven feet tall. Have you guys seen Mikey
O'Shea wrestle? That name sounds so familiar.
It sounds so familiar. He is fucking fantastic.
I can't say enough bullshit about Mikey O'Shea.
Randy loves factions because he has had a group
running around essentially for the last two years
for Limitless that has built a very big story.
through Limitless Wrestling. We're talking like
Channing Thomas and guys like Sidney Bacabella,
the guys in the Northeast that have made a staple
pretty much in the Northeast. They have made
such a big group that is just tearing apart every
single time that they're on a show. Randy's very
big on factions. Oh, hell yeah. If I can get
me an ace and then I have this Really cool manager
who's very like it speaks eloquently very smart,
but he's either showman, you know If the if the
price is right, I wouldn't see why I can't see
why not Yeah, Randy's always down to booking
like very high talent and you seem like a guy
with very high He just had the hardy is on their
biggest Tournament show that they ever did. So
I mean, you know Yeah, especially since the October
4th, that secret show, that's a little bit closer
to where we are. So maybe you would want to work
something out that way. Oh, I think Doug muted
himself. I think Doug muted us, yeah. I think
he's getting out of his truck right now. Oh,
yeah, I did. I did meet you. I was like, shut
up. I'm in charge. The typical fucking generic
heel response. Shut your mouth. Yeah, you guys
are losers. Yeah, shut your mouth because I'm
afraid that if I have too much of a personality,
I never get booked anywhere. So shut your mouth.
Shut up. It's so true. Yeah, they're like, bro,
I hate fucking... I hate the fucking wrestling
community sometimes because they're so afraid
to have a fucking personality or say something
wrong. They go out to a show like, hey, whoa,
careful how you respond online to somebody. You
don't want to put more than one emoji on a post
because someone could take that the wrong way
and then you won't get booked. You're like, what
the fuck are you talking about? They're like,
oh, whoa, hey, don't have an opinion. on life
or say that you like God or anything because
then you won't get booked. I'm like, what the
fuck are you talking about? Don't talk about
anything politically or don't have an opinion
on this or that. You won't get booked. I made
an opinion on the Charlie Kirk shooting. I said,
hey, the world needs to fucking be a little more
human and not celebrate murder. I said, I didn't
like it when George Floyd died because they put
labels on people and it's dehumanizing and they
do that so they could scapegoat. Advocating for
Werner. Like, I don't like it. It's really bad.
Like, and then so they go, I can't believe you
made a comment on him. And I'm like, I don't
give a fuck. I'll make a comment on whatever
I want. And then they bring it up to another
topic. Like, well, what about this? And I'm like,
that's bad too. Why did you say anything about
that? Because it wasn't relevant. So, JP, you
say, imagine a world with no social media. I
used to live in that world, and it was actually
kind of nice. It was really great. The internet
was just for porn. I was looking at my notes.
2001. And I had this written down. And you wanted
to challenge Rampage Jackson in a boxing match.
Did he ever answer that? Well, I was only going
to do it because it was going to get Stu's medical
bills paid for. But then they go fund me. We
got up to like a quarter million on that bitch.
So I don't think I have to anymore. So like if
I could answer that question, I don't want to
fucking box Rampage Jackson because there's no
win in that for me. You know, like I got a piece
of that and one of these guys are in my work
bathroom. Give me a second. I'm not going to
flash my wiener to the camera. Don't worry. Oh,
thank you. I don't want to be jealous, but I
also don't want to be taken off in YouTube either.
It's all right. We get banned for most of our
random shit. Yeah, we get fucking copyright struck
fucking six weeks after the podcast and we can't
use it. For what? A lot of times we'll show a
WWE clip and it'll be like a half a second of
Triple H's music. And YouTube will be like, you
played WBF copyrighted music. And it's like,
cool. Yeah, that's fucking worse. It's like two
months before they ever saw me. Literally, it's
literally like two or three months later after
the video starts getting like traction. It's
like, oh, that's the way to do it. That's the
way to do it. I got to throw this piss cup out
now. Am I giving one second? Oh, wait, no, I
forgot. You're on my Bluetooth headphones. I
can talk to you now while I throw my piss cup.
Why do I feel like this is an episode of Trailer
Park Boys in real life? That'd be kind of cool.
We need Doug on every week. Hey, Levi and Matthews,
y 'all fired. What kind of vehicle do you guys
think I drive? Looks like a truck. Or a Jeep.
Yes, it's a truck. I picked this up for $3 ,900
and it's the best pickup I've ever bought. F
-250, but it came with a dead rabbit on the back
and I'm never taking it off. All I heard was
$3 ,900. Dead rabbit. Dead rabbit. Yeah, it's
so great, dude. The other day I was at the grocery
store and some little kid was like, Mom, the
rabbit! And she was like, oh my god, that poor
bunny. She was like, you should really remove
that. And I was like, I'm sorry, he shouldn't
have been in my garden. Fucking greatest ever.
Peter Cottonelle could eat a dick. This is how
we deal with Therican. Yeah. Screw you, rabbit.
How many miles you got on that thing? Like 200
plus thousand. She's still running great. Bro,
it runs like a fucking tank. I love it. It's
got a Raptor motor in it. Oh, fuck. Yo. Yeah.
6 .2 liter E85 motor, the EcoBoost. So when you
step on it with EcoBoost, it floods the fuel
injectors with all the fuel and it's like having
a fucking turbo. And I'm like, oh my god. But
my friend suspension needs to be fixed. So like
it shakes and I'm just like I don't care. I'll
just die Well, yeah, I could use a fucking vacation,
you know what I mean like Life's rough, you know
speaking of dying. Do you have any near -death
experiences? quite a few What's the worst? Yeah
funniest or worse I Want to go funniest cuz I'm
a funny guy so funniest I got bit in the dick
by a black widow What? Yeah, yeah. And, like,
I went to a hospital during COVID, and I drove
my rental car there. And I was in truck driving
school at the time, too. So I went there. My
dick's, like, the size of a fucking potato at
the time. It's swollen. It hurts. And I lanced
it. I cut it open so I could fucking drain it.
Because I got bit by so many. So I lived in the
mountains. and i was cleaning out a crawl space
and i must have hit a nest or something i had
spider bites on my stomach and two on my legs
one on my arm they were everywhere right so like
i knew what it was i was like all right like
i got bit by something then i saw the streaks
on my stomach and i said that's not good i went
to take a shower and i looked at my dick which
was hurting and i said ah like that's really
really not good so i like lanced it because i
saw the streak on my dick and it was already
swelling So I lanced it to, like, drain it, and
I went straight to the hospital, right? And,
like, I was like, this isn't good. So I was telling
the nurses at the hospital, like, hey, I'm in
a lot of pain. And they're like, where? And I
was like, my dick. Like, my dick hurts really
bad. They're like, what? I'm serious. And they're
like, sir, that's not funny. And I was like,
is that a fucking joke? My dick hurts. Like,
I cut it open, and, like, there's a spider bite
on it. And they're like, well, it's COVID right
now. We're only taking in people with severe
emergencies. Like, my fucking dick hurts. Like,
this is an emergency. Bro, COVID? Are you fucking
kidding me? Like, the hospital waiting room was
empty. And they're sitting there like, you just
have to wait. It'll be a couple hours before
you get seen. And I'm sitting there. It's like
30 minutes. It's hurting so bad. I'm starting
to do, like, the tap dance. And I'm like, oh,
my God. I'm getting anxious. I'm hot. I'm sweating.
I'm, like, starting to get nauseous. Bro, let
me explain. I walked back over there. I walked
back over there to the, the, the people at the
front that were admitting everybody pulled my
dick out. And I said, please, can you fucking
help me look at this thing? And I went, Oh my
God. And I was like, yeah, emergency surgery
immediately. They like sonogrammed. My balls
are so swollen and they like got a son. I got
a sonogram on my balls. I got a, I got a full
sonogram on my balls. So then I put a picture
of me and my friend Katie out to dinner and I
put the sonogram up on my balls. So that everyone
thought that I was like having a kid, but then
they were all complimenting saying congratulations.
And I was like, great. They're my balls. Like
I needed to make myself laugh. I was like, I'm
going to use this. Like, this is too funny not
to post. So I'm getting the sonogram and I'm
talking to the lady. I was like, do you always
just sonogram people's balls? She's like, this
is a first. And I was like, this is fantastic.
And then, so we're just talking. I got this lady
laughing and then she's like, what happened?
I was like, I think it's a spider bite. I was
like, either that or it's like, you know, something
else, but I'm not having sex right now. It can't
be that, you know? And then I go and I'm in the
doctor's office now and they're like, all right,
we're going to have to, it's going to be some
options. We're going to give you a lot of medications.
We're going to have to like cut it open and drain
it. We're going to have to do some more tests.
We got to, I think they had to do like an MRI,
but they're saying, then they start telling me
like, if we can't get the swelling down and this
and that, we might actually have to cut off a
piece of your dick or, or all of it. And you
might lose your testicles. Oh, my God. And I
said, I would just rather die. Where's the DNR?
And they're like, what do you mean? I was like,
I would rather die than not have a wiener. So,
like, just let me lay here until I die. I literally,
I told the doctor, I fucking crossed my arms.
And I said, I'm just going to cross my arms.
And I'm going to lay here. And this will be it.
Where's the DNR? I said, I can't live without
a wiener. Like, what am I supposed to do? Like
scissor? I'm going to scissor everybody. Like,
Ooh, yeah, girl, you want this? This is fucking,
I'm a scissoring machine, baby. Like, no, not
happening. I am not going to be fucking Edward
Scissor Dick. Like, that's just not working for
me. Go fuck yourself, doctor. We're going to
save my dick. Like, we're going to fucking figure
this out. So she's sitting there like fiddling
with it. And then one of the nurses in the back
is like some sassy person. He's like. I tell
them it's probably syphilis. And I was like,
well, you didn't spend any time with my dick.
You took a glance at it. The doctor's got my
dick in her hands and her face and looking at
it. And she sees in the spider bite, there's
other spider bites on my body. Who are you to
talk shit about my dick? You didn't spend any
time with it. Like, you know, you didn't take
my dick on a date. This doctor spent two hours
with my dick and you're over here running your
mouth. So like now the doctor's laughing and
I was like, this is not a joke. Don't laugh at
my dick. You know what I mean? Like, I swear
to God, it's not what it looks like. You know,
it normally looks better than this. So then we're
trying to get the situation under control. And
I got all these medications. They finally drain
all the fluids out. My dick's still the size
of a potato. After I leave the hospital, my balls
are so swollen. And like, you could see the fang
marks when all the swelling started to go away
from like where it was like starting to decay
a little bit. So I got all of this stuff cleaned.
I kept my dick. I still have the marks of where
the drainage was and everything. And I have some
cool pictures. Yeah. I've shown some people.
I'm not going to show you guys. You know what
I mean? Come on. That would have been the best
time for someone to log into the channel to watch
the show. No, someone just did. During the middle
of that conversation while he was explaining
to somebody, he just said, stop. Well, here we
are. It was a whole thing. That almost killed
me. I also crashed a couple of motorcycles. Uh,
you know, I crashed a car. I crashed my car that
night too. After I left the hospital, after they
operated on my dick, um, I, I lived in the mountains
and they, because of COVID guys, they, I couldn't
stay in the hospital overnight because you know,
my criteria criteria wasn't, uh, bad enough for
me to meet any of the safety requirements to
keep me. So they, they said it was not a problem
to them. Yeah. High, high as a kite on morphine
and painkillers and anesthesia. I drove my car
home right into the side of the fucking mountain.
Yeah. And then I fucking got out of it. Cause
I got into the driveway. I like limped it. I
like limped it to the bottom of my driveway and
I went home and I remember like putting like
something over my, my, my new wounds. And I took
a shower. and my mom fucking is like texting
me from we have two separate parts of the house
and she's like are you okay what's up like what
happened like i heard you went to the hospital
this and that and then i texted her back there's
rice cooking in the microwave and then she fucking
text me back like 15 minutes later there's no
rice in the microwave i've ever heard the travis
tritt song i got rice cooking in the microwave
Yeah, that's how I say everything's all right.
You know, you hit me up and be like, are you
all right? I'm like, I had rice cooking in the
microwave, buddy. Everything's good. She took
that way too literal. Oh, it was so great, dude.
I still laugh. He's delusional. We need to take
him back. Well, they fucking, they should have,
man, if they, somebody just would have committed
me like the whole last two years, like the, the,
I was homeless before that, uh, and running around
and just a fucking like running a mess, you know,
like. That was after my buddy died. Um, my buddy
died like five years ago. So, you know, it's
like, I was a mess after he passed away. Uh,
you know, I was suicidal, you know, I was, I
was not there. Uh, so basically that was at the
tail end of that. So they, someone could have
just committed me like two years before that
we would have been great. You know, I blame everybody
else. It wasn't my fault. I'm perfect. And I
never make mistakes. You are the epic. Yeah.
Yeah. The never ending story of ass what was
past president would have come. And I whipped
that spider's ass. He bit my dick and he was
like, Oh, it tastes like shit. And then he fucking
died. Probably. I went to the hospital, you know,
I wonder if that was a spider's first time, you
know, like if that was his first time, like with
the human is technically we dated me and the
spider. You can't just put my dick in your mouth
and we not tell people we dated, we dated me
and that spider. We're an item. Yeah, so if I
get super famous, if that spider's still alive,
it's going to be telling all of its other friends,
like, yo, me and that guy had a moment, you know?
I suck the epic's dick. Unfortunately, I only
got fangs, but whatever, we're an item now. If
you ever have a new girlfriend in your life,
be like, yeah, I once had the spider suck my
dick once. My girlfriend knows every story about
me, and she's just wondering why she still loves
me. She knows. She's had people come up to her
and tell her, do you know who your boyfriend
is? I went to Redlands with her, and I used to
work downtown. Bar security had a pretty rough
bar. I'm a fucking nut. So she's like, why are
we getting free drinks everywhere? I said, I'm
a legend. You know, he kind of fucking asked
about me. God damn it. You know, and she's like,
what do you mean? I was like, I've whipped a
lot of ass in this city and people still love
me and respect me out here for all the asses
I've whipped and kept the bar safe. You know,
she's like, what do you mean? I was like, well,
if there was a fight at a neighboring bar and
their security couldn't handle it, they would
call our bar and they were like, Hey, send Doug
over here right now. And I'm like, where Darby's
on it. And I go. And Superman would show up.
I have Nickelback playing in my head. I'd be
like, oh, yeah, that's right. I'm fucking here.
People have Stone Cold Steve Austin glass break.
No, no, no, no. Nickelback, bro. Nickelback,
Spider -Man album, hero. Don't ruin it. Don't
you fucking ruin it, damn it. Chad Kroger, there
goes my hero. I walk through the doors. I was
about to ask what Nickel song is playing, but
yeah, that tracks. Yeah. I was thinking photograph.
No, no. And that, so like we're on like our third
date ever and we're in Redlands and she hears,
where's, or I hear, where's Doug? Where's Doug?
And I'm like, I look at her and I said, yeah,
they always call me when I got my superhero outfit
on. And she's like, the fuck are you talking
about? You dumb motherfucker. So I look at her.
I said, I got my fanny pack and my flip flops
when I do the most damage. I have my tank top,
my fanny pack and my flip flops on. And I hear,
where's Jack? And I'm like, it's over there at
Clued. So I fucking go over there. And my friend's
calling for me because there's a fight breaking
out. And some guy has a gun. Another guy has
a knife. And there's a guy and a girl that are
with each other. And this whole thing's devolving.
And no one's doing anything. So I walk over there.
Flip, flop, flip, flop, flip, flop. And I said,
hey. And I grabbed the guy's hand with the gun.
So I yank him from him. And he's looking at me
like, oh, shit. You just took that from me. I
was like, ah, element of surprise. You're not
ready for this. And then I look at, I tell the
guy who had the knife and he's in the corner.
He like backed up into the corner. I was like,
I looked at him like dead in the eyes. And I
was like, I will fuck you in that corner. And
like, you know, I was drinking. So like, I didn't
really know what to say at the time. So I told
him, I'll fuck you. And he was just thrown off.
Like, oh shit, he's going to fuck me. Like, that's
an odd response. The guy who had the gun is sitting
there like, I'm so confused. Could I still have
him by the wrist? And I'm like, you better knock
it off. The girl that was with the guy that those
people were after was talking shit behind me.
And I'm like, I just solved the problem. Why
aren't you leaving you asshole? You know? So
I turned around and I tell the guy, because I
didn't say this to be mean to the girl. I said
this so she could be upset at me and, and I get
mad at her boyfriend. So I told the guys to get
the fuck out of here. And he goes, Donna, this
and that. I said, put a muzzle on your bitch.
And then he was like, what? I was like, get the,
and she's like, fuck you, motherfucker. She's
now screaming at me. And I was like, good shit.
Now you're not yelling at these people. And I
turned to those people and I said, get the fuck
out of here. And then she's yelling, the guy's
grabbing the girl and everyone's telling the
girl to leave me alone because I broke up the
moment. So I'm like, good. All the intentions
on me and they're no longer focused on each other.
Right? Go. I fucking take this guy's shit, fucking
scatter it, fucking tell him to get the fuck
out of here, out of Dodge. And then my girlfriend's
walking up behind me, taking her earrings off
and I'm walking back towards her. She's like,
I'm like, what are you doing? She's like, I'm
a help. I'm like, how the fuck are you going
to help? The fuck are you going to do? You know
what I mean? But like, there's a thing about
Dominican women is they will back you up to the
day I found out. And now we're like, what, three
years into this relationship? Almost four. Yeah.
And every time I try to leave her, she whoops
my ass and I get forced to stay home. You know,
I get, she grounds me, you know, I'm like, that's
it. I can't do this shit no more. And she's like,
Go on, y 'all. Shut up. Sit down. I'm going to
cook you some food. Shut the fuck up. Go to sleep.
You're not leaving the house. I took your keys.
I'm like, all right. We'll be obedient like a
good little bitch, and I'm just going to shut
up now. Okay, you're going to cook us. Okay,
I'll sit here, I guess. You know what's funny
is if I tell people the stories about me in Redlands,
people will say it's not true. If you talk to
some of the bartenders that are still working
down there, like the people at the boiler room,
they'll be like, nope, Doug's a fucking legend.
Because I basically was like, that was back when
I was drinking. So I had no fear. And I didn't
think I would just walk and do shit. Now that
I'm sober, you couldn't get me to do half that
shit. I'd be like, hey, go fuck yourself. I got
to go home. You know what I mean? $25 an hour
is not good enough to keep me here. Yeah, man.
Wapner starts in five. Yeah. And I'm just honestly,
I'm so lucky somebody didn't put my dick in the
dirt. You know what I mean? Because it's only
a matter of time until somebody gets your number.
And I was just really blessed and lucky because,
you know, like it's not like I could fucking
take on the world or whatever it is. I just was
dealing with smaller people. And, you know, I'm
260 pounds and this is the smallest I've been
in a long time. Right. So when I was that big
and I was a lot buffer and stronger. Dealing
with an average -sized guy is a lot easier to
overpower. It's not like I did anything special.
I just want to throw that out there because I
know people are going to hear that and be like,
he thinks he's the shit. I'm like, well, I am.
Jack is shit. I wouldn't want to fuck with you.
Nope. I have the muscles because I put a garden
hose up my butthole every morning and I just
fill it up until the water leaks out my nose.
Now, I don't let it leak out anymore. I just
cap it. There's a drought. There's a drought
in California. You can't lose that much water.
What was the wrestler that apparently Shawn Michaels
was trying to give him fucking steroids in the
butt and he couldn't do it and he's pushing it
as hard as he can and he just pulls it out and
hands it back to him and goes, buddy, I think
you're full. Oh, I don't know. Wasn't that Bulldog?
It might have been Bulldog. yeah you know if
guys want to shut things up each other's butts
you know what i mean like you shouldn't be telling
the internet that you know and like that that
era of wrestling they got to do all the steroids
and all the other stuff and they got to get away
with it my generation we got to be clean we can't
do this we can't do that well i mean they also
all died at 35 so exactly yeah sean michaels
is still alive and kicking and if they haven't
died look at the ones that did do steroids and
now as often and they look like a fucking mess
I want to actually advocate for the steroids
on this point. The people that died early didn't
die from steroid abuse. They died from cocaine
abuse. It was the 80s. That's probably true.
Let's think about this. Painkillers, cocaine,
and steroids are a terrible thing to do to your
heart all at the same time. Look at Arnold's
era of bodybuilding. The people that didn't have
drug problems lived very long, fruitful lives.
The people that did steroids and cocaine Did
not. Yeah, that's true. I'm just saying, you
know, like, I don't think that CRT is a bad thing.
I think it's actually very useful. You know,
that's all I have to say about that. You know,
and there's other things that people can take
nowadays, like SARMs. Well, if you don't, anything
with moderation can be decent for you. Well,
not cocaine. No matter how much you moderate
that, it's not good for you. But certain testosterone
and shit like that I've heard have massive success
and shit like that if you take it in moderation.
Yeah, and there's certain things out there that
are very healthy for you, like that can clear
your lipid panel, you know what I mean, that
are quote -unquote illegal. Yeah. That aren't
steroids, but they can help you with your endurance
and all kinds of shit. And they're very good
for you. I've actually, when I was... In my height
of bodybuilding and powerlifting, you know, it's
not like you can do that naturally. That's how
I got up to 300 pounds of abs, right? There were
certain things that I took that helped fix my
lipid panel. And there were certain things that
I took that helped regulate my heart. It made
me healthier. My health didn't decline until
I was, you know, in a massive depression. not
doing anything to help myself. Depression, drug
abuse, alcoholism, all of that stuff mixed together.
That was when I had the worst health. Even now,
I've recovered completely from it. I get the
depression and alcoholism thing, trust me. I
think a lot of us have that. To me, I don't...
I don't condone drinking, and I do drink from
time to time. I'm always honest about that, but
I advocate for sobriety, absolute sobriety. I
wish I was strong enough to do it, but I fuck
up here and there. But I don't drink. I won't
drink two days in a row. I have an absolute rule
against that. You just said it a second ago.
Anything in moderation is fine. You can sit down
and have two beers and be okay, but slinging
back half a bottle of rum. I can't moderate.
I can't moderate. If I have one beer, I have
them all. To this day, I cannot moderate. If
I have one drink, I'm going to party. I am absolutely
helpless when it comes to that. We have a couple
friends like that. You couldn't make me party
if you tried. If I say I'm going to be sober,
I'm going to be sober with fucking white knuckles.
You know what I mean? I'm going to say no a few
times politely and then I'm like, all right,
we're doing this. Or if you get me to drink when
I said no politely a few times, good luck when
fucking Mr. Hyde comes out. See, I don't get
that, man. If I'm at a bar or something and I
get a buddy there and I'm like, yo, you want
a beer or you want a drink? And they're like,
no. I'm like, all right, cool. What do you want
then? Like, you know, give me a soda. Cool. Here
you go. For me, I just don't go out. I don't
go out drinking at bars and stuff like that.
I refuse. My friend Ian Morgan, Ian the Captain
Morgan, I got roofied in Portland. I was found
wandering the streets talking absolute fucking
nonsense and mythical things. The cops thought
I was on regular drugs and when I got drug tested
and everything, I was roofied. And attacked.
Yeah, I was attacked and they try to rob me and
they're not biting somebody there, too I have
a thing with biting. It seems to be my go -to
I will bite you in the fucking face if I'm gonna
fight with you like I'm just like I'm not having
a Donnybrook I'm gonna bite you like I'm a fucking
t -rex. He was my favorite character in Jurassic
Park and this is where I'm at Clearly we learned
that from the Raja incident We should probably
go into that since that was the main event of
this whole situation. We haven't really talked
mainly about that. A little bit of curiosity.
You're fighting this dude and you're sitting
there looking and you're like, man, he's got
a big meaty trap. I wonder what it tastes like.
Then you bite him and you're like, ah, dude,
it tastes like sweat and asshole. So, yeah, he
got arrested. We all finally, it took them fucking
weeks. California does that. They won't even
arrest the pedophiles. That's why we don't do
LA County with the scaling up. Well, yeah, I've
heard that it's fucking ridiculous about that
shit. Oh, my nose is itchy. I'm going to be on
live stream picking my nose. We can't see you.
We can't really see you, so it's okay. It's only
when you're going through the lights that you
can see this glimpse of you here and there. I'm
going to turn the light on and just fucking sit
there. So, Doug, bring us through that day, man.
What happened that day? From your aspect, what
happened? From point A to point Z, basically.
What was your day like to the incident, I guess,
would probably be a good question. I was calling
a match with Alex Ace and I was like, bro, stop
standing so close to me. I hate when your dick
touches my shoulder because he's 17. Come on.
Fucking inappropriate. This is no way to get
attention. I don't know how you do it in Spain.
I know Europeans are a little quirky, you know,
and he's just like, all right, buddy. And he's
like, oh, we'll do this. And I was like, all
right. And then we're going to bump. And I was
like, do we have enough time in the match for
you to bump? Because you're a fucking giraffe
if I take 10 minutes. It's like watching a seven
-footer bump is like having dial -up fucking
load. You know, it's fucking terrible. It takes
forever. They make awful noises. Yeah. It's just
so bad. Come on. I'll do all the bumping. No,
no, he's actually so talented. Him and Mikey
O'Shea were going off the top turnbuckle flying.
No, Mikey, I follow him on TikTok. Bro, he is
the best. I watched him wrestle three times in
my life, and I can almost remember every spot
in all of his matches. He's my favorite. That's
cool. Him and Alex Ace have always been one of
my favorites to watch. He's a third grade school
teacher and his visa is expiring and I'm trying
to keep wrestling with him. So if we can get
him signed anywhere, that is a dream of mine.
I would do anything so I can keep working with
him. I love that guy. Yeah, right? Seriously,
Tony Khan, just fucking sign his visa over so
he can keep wrestling. We should make a movement
just for Tony Khan or somebody to sign his visa
over so he can keep working. That would be the
sweetest, coolest gift that they could ever do
to the wrestling community, and Alex deserves
every bit of that kindness. Well, Tony loves
signing wrestlers just to sign them, so why not?
Yeah. And Alex is entertaining, and he speaks
Catalan. He's very proper. You know, he's upper
-crust Spanish. But anyways, with the Raja situation,
the beer can thing happened when I wasn't looking.
My back was turning. You see the whole video?
Then... I had my match, came out there, and then
the booker comes over to me and he goes, hey,
there might be a terrible incident. Or no, he
said, there might be an issue. Can you just make
sure everything's safe? I was like, well, what's
the spot? What's happening? Well, I don't know.
And he goes, did you see what happened earlier?
I said, no. The whole beer can thing tells me.
But I was like, why the fuck would he do that?
If you hit me with a beer can, I'll fuck you
up. And I was like, oh, shit, that's not good.
You know, and he goes, oh, they apologize. Oh,
so they apologize. And he goes, yeah. So I was
like, it's fine. He goes, yeah. I was like, okay,
so it's not that big of a deal. Right? So I go
out there, I talk to the security guy. The security
guy goes, I don't know about any spot. Not to
cut you off, but it kind of seemed like in that
video with Raja, after it happened, and then
I called him cowboy cunt face. uh when cowboy
was the the uh when they were talking about don't
even mention his name because he he thinks that
people are cloud chasing you have to have clout
to chase it you when they were talking about
receipt it kind of felt like this scenario was
planned where this incident would happen because
like stewie even said like he saw the camera
he thought they were doing an angle whatever
it kind of for me kind of felt like maybe there
was a conversation beforehand that saying, this
guy's going to show up, we're going to get some
heat and whatever for this match. So when they
were talking about the receipt, it kind of felt
like, oh, so you expected this to happen with
Stu, and we're now going to go off the rails,
basically. I don't know about if that was expected
to happen, but I do know that fucking dipshit
had a prior issue. And Stu gave him a car and
he never paid for it. And him and Stu had a problem
over that. Stu also gave him a place to stay,
but he was homeless to carry him. So this fucking
moron, for him to say that he's a fucking idiot,
make sure you give him a receipt. Remember what
a receipt is? Tag his shit. Give him a real one,
whatever the fuck he said, right? That fucking
moron for you to utter those words after this
guy's done so much for you and not deep not trying
to deescalate calm somebody down Would you know
that this guy has an arrest record? You know
that he's volatile He shoots on his training
partners and MMA all the time, you know that
he had a concussion You know that he's always
done some unhinged shit You brought somebody
like that knowing their past behavior Knowing
that you live stream with them the day before
you did all this shit You guys are always talking
shit about fighting and trying to be tough because
bravado is the name of the game for losers That
motherfucker brought that scenario and didn't
try to deescalate it. He's responsible because
he brought a fucking guest into a place where
he has fraternity with people and an understanding
that we're supposed to keep each other safe.
Right. So we're putting our lives in people's
hands and we're putting our trust that you're
bringing somebody that's safe because you're
bringing them and you're one of us. And you chose
that person over from fraternity, and you encouraged
real violence when there's kids present. Un -fucking
-forgivable. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying.
That's why it kind of felt like this was something
that either had a grudge against him or whatever,
because it's just that scenario happened, and
then it's like, you give him a receipt. You remember
how I told you about receipts? Why the fuck are
you talking about receipts to... a guy that's
just showing up it's like it like to me it kind
of felt like that oh this is a scenario that
he was hoping that would escalate and then and
then this would happen yeah i don't i don't believe
in coincidence so the fact that it happened and
there was a prior issue uh i don't believe in
coincidence so you did what you did you said
you you didn't do anything to de -escalate You
ran away like a coward after the event. The family
told you to leave when you tried to show up to
the fucking hospital. Then when you showed up
to the hospital, you walked over to Elias, the
young kid who tried to pull him off first. And
you said, what was the spot? Oh, that's weird.
Why would they have an MMA guy in there with
a pro wrestler? It's exact words. Already trying
to dodge what he did. Yeah. Oh my gosh. So you're
already setting up your lies. Yeah. Just not
only that, he, like, completely backtracked.
He was like, you know, like, when he was on the,
uh, I can't remember who's whatever, talking
about it. He's like, oh, I was like, I had no
control of him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It is exactly like you said. You knew all this
shit. You're friends with this guy. You knew
that he had concussion. You knew that he would
just go off the rails. And yet you still allowed
this shit to happen. Yeah. And then you're already
pre -setting your lies. You lied when my buddy
Alex asked him, hey, was that you on the phone
with him? Was that you on the phone using the
N -word? Was that you? I heard your fucking voice.
I would never use that word. It's against my
culture. It goes on CT Flexion Podcast. It's
me, Andre. My life is ruined. It's on Raja's
kick before it got taken down. It's on the video.
Yeah, I know. The other part of that, too, is
this fucking dipshit. But it was on on CTS podcast
saying kayfabe is dead and he's on JPL say that
he believes in kayfabe, you know He there's so
much that goes into all of it But I'm trying
to run away from all and setting up all of these
things and just constantly lying, you know Like
that's what makes me believe that you're a part
of something when you lie And you haven't apologized
or done anything to help take accountability
for any of the fucking behavior or actions that
happen. Like, what a fucking coward. And because
he hasn't apologized, because he hasn't taken
accountability, because he lied, now Rampage
is talking shit about Stu. Stu's family is getting
harassed. Rampage is getting harassed. Two parties
that need to be healing and focused on dealing
with the situation. Are getting outside heat
from people not involved in a situation because
somebody's fucking lying about it. Yeah. How
fucking terrible of a person are you where you
can't take accountability? I had to tell my 14
year old little kid. He's not my kid, but my
friend Vera's kid. Right. But I love this kid.
I love him to death. And he's impressionable.
And he looks up to me and he looks up to my friends.
Right. And I have to tell him, Eli, look, little
man, like if you fuck up in life, you have to
take accountability. Eat no matter how bad it
is. And I said, it starts with the little things.
Your mom asks you a question, you lie to her,
you're skipping accountability. Always own things
in life. You have to learn to take accountability
early and often and always. Or when big things
happen, you're not going to take accountability.
Now you can't heal. You can't grow. The people
that you hurt can't grow. Nobody can grow and
heal from the situation because you're gatekeeping
that by lying. I'd explain it in this whole scenario.
Based on this fucking asshole and that kid had
a watch the whole Roger situation. He watched
the whole incident Yeah Yeah, that's crazy in
like yeah with the Rampage Jackson shit. Like
I know he kept on putting out like the Like he
went to like a doctor or whatever and they did
like that specialized and like helping people
with a face and He went on camera saying I want
to pay for stews you know i want stew to get
this and pay for it try to stay face and then
turn around and go like stew's in that like he's
kind of being an he's not like apologizing about
the scenario even though it was i mean yeah the
beer he's also still recovering he's also still
recovering at the time that he said that stew
couldn't walk without a walker because he'd get
dizzy he was forgetting what he was saying Studi
is a fucking heel and that's why I don't talk
to him so much or I'm not hitting him up because
I'm directly tied to this fucking incident and
if I talk to him he's gonna think about the incident
because I'm directly involved with what fucking
happened so like I can't even check on my fucking
friend all I could do is fucking raise money
and try to put the truth out there because these
fucking morons are talking out of their fucking
assholes I say Stu needs to apologize. I'm like,
okay, the beer can thing, yeah, sure, whatever.
But he didn't get his... Stu got his face rearranged.
He almost died in the middle of the ring. I wouldn't
be apologizing. If I popped you in the head of
the beer can, and I'm pretty sure it was... Looking
at it, it was worked. Here's the other thing.
First of all, if you hit me with a beer can on
the spot, I'd fuck you up. The situation's done
right then and there. I wouldn't walk away and
premeditate and wait for your body to be surrendered
to me for me to leave you fucking unresponsive
and try to kill you. They're going to leave you
like, bro, what the fuck? If that incident would
have happened then and there instead of in the
ring, I feel like this entire thing would have
been a whole different situation. Bro, if they
would have just fucking told me earlier about
the fucking situation because the reason they
even told me something bad might happen is because
I don't let bad things happen and I advocate
for morals and I'll stick up for people. I would
have walked straight up to Raja after that fucking
incident and be like, hey, I want you to understand
that this situation was bad. It happened, but
we got to keep it peaceful. There's kids here.
If you're still feeling like you want to hurt
this person, let's just go talk outside. Let's
figure this out. Let's separate. ourselves for
the moment if i if it escalates between me and
him fuck it whatever but if we if i could talk
him off the ledge then like then we just have
a a scuffle an altercation maybe some words or
maybe we talk it down maybe i could reason with
him like maybe something better but the fact
that nobody was willing to pull him aside and
be a good mentor to him a good friend like raja
needed a friend that day just as much as everyone
else because Good mentor if my little brother
would have shown his ass or if I know he was
crazy something like that would happen I would
never fucking let him Like off the fucking leash.
I'd have them right next to me. Like what are
you thinking? How are you feeling? Do we need
to leave? Do we need to leave and like change
the scenery because I can't allow you to get
arrested and ruin your life I can't allow you
to do something bad in front of people and kids
Like let's talk about this. Come on, bud And
if him and I got into a scrap over it, so what
it ends right there like You have to be the guy
to put yourself between that. A lot of me is
really mad because I didn't know before Roger
even was sitting on the side, I wish I could
have got to talk to him. I bet you I could have
solved the situation with words. I bet you I
could have. And instead it got instigated. But
fuck his chat. I would have put all the pressure
on me. I would have just talked shit to his chat.
And not even just instigated by, you know, kind
of face. Oh, God, dude, I have. Well, not only
that, like more than more than once, I have I
have told him how I felt. Yeah, I bet. Well,
like I said, like at this point, Rampage is asking
for apology for Stu. I have yet to hear an apology
from Raja for almost the fucking ring. So leading
into that, I don't know. I'm assuming, Doug,
you know that Rampage got arrested for it all.
Raja. Raja, not Rampage. Yeah, we talked about
it earlier. Yes. I'm not mad at Rampage because
I don't expect anybody to have a coherent response.
Think about this. Raja is his son. Raja came
from his balls. He is a piece of Rampage. I want
you to think about this. Really, really think
about it. When people want to demonize Rampage.
That is a piece of him in the world that he loves
more than anything and he'll die for it. I don't
expect a rational response out of him and I expect
him to do everything that he can to make sure
that Raja has the best scenario available to
him. And I think that's endearing and I think
that every father should do that. I don't care
if you're perfect. There's no perfect way to
handle this situation for anybody. Nobody will
be perfect in this situation. So like from a
father's perspective, I want people to think
from a father's perspective What would you do
if a piece of you that you put into this world
that you love whether anything in the world?
Was facing 20 years in jail or something like
that and could ruin their life And you're not
gonna be able to make sure he's okay. You're
not gonna be able to touch him You're not gonna
be able to console him. You're not gonna be able
to love on him He's gonna be locked away with
people that are probably gonna want to murder
him No one thinks about this shit no you know
and like that that's what rampage has to think
about so who the is anybody to get mad at him
you know like that if that i don't care if that
was still a piece of me like if one of one of
my little cousins did something so terrible and
i wasn't able to save them from it i would be
heartbroken and i would do whatever it takes
to make sure that i could keep up from that like
my nephew right anything anything in the world
i would say anything i'd go show my ass with
all the attentions on me and i could take it
off of them Yeah, you know like I don't I gotta
do something like that like that's the thing
So like when it comes a rampage like I know I
want people to like think about that perspective
You know and like just be real you don't have
to appreciate how someone handles something you
may not like it But like at least understand
that that's just a father fighting for his son
You know and as far as Roger goes his energy
that day like I Have snapped what I have snapped
I'm not a saint. I mean, anyone who knows me
can attest that I have been the devil, I have
been an angel, I have been everything. You know?
And by the grace of God, I've been blessed by
having good people around me or not being caught.
Right? So, with Raja, I really do hope that all
of that pain, because People like when I snapped
a lease, I gave people my pain. Whenever I felt
inside that it was building and bubbling and
growing and festering and I couldn't get it out
normally and I didn't know where to place it,
anybody that gave me the excuse to employ my
emotions on them, I would sign them up for an
ass whooping that was unscrupulous. You know,
like I would give them every piece of my hurt.
And they didn't deserve that. I walked them into
that situation so that I could selfishly exact
my rage on them. Right. Raja did something similar.
That's why I really think that he does need jail
time because of what he did. Unfortunately, when
you do something wrong and you do something bad,
you have to have punishment. But I really do
hope that he. Yeah. Oh, God, it was terrible.
But like I'm not advocating for him But what
I'm saying is I really hope that he gets mental
health treatment for his trauma Like when he
watched a video of rampage saying his son hasn't
been the same since his mom died, right? right
Rampage was was trying to be an entertainer,
but he's on livestream But you could tell he's
saying that and there's a there's pain in it
in his voice and in his soul at the moment So,
you know, it's real right so, you know that that
type of trauma i couldn't tell you how much pain
like my mom is my world yeah i can't imagine
a day without my mom and it's the greatest fear
that i have in my life is the day that i lose
my mom and it's the greatest fear that i have
that i can't help but retire like i mean my mom
is my my life right so i could i feel for that
like so like he needs help with that trauma he
needs because men we need that feminine energy
we need women in our life like All the testosterone
in the world surrounding you. And if you don't
have that, that fucking, that woman's love and
presence in your life, that's like the yin to
our yang. You know, like that's our counterbalance.
That's what keeps us from going off the fucking
rails. So, you know, like I, he needs to solve
that trauma. You know, like that, that's, that's
the hurt, you know, like that, that right there
is a, that's a trigger that can do some damage.
You know like that that's yeah, I was gonna say
and also had they you know on the live he was
talking about like no one's gonna see me as a
bitch shit like that and probably that you know,
obviously doesn't help that the You know walking
in his dad's footsteps. Yeah You know something
there with his dad like maybe I don't know like
with the one parent gone and you're if you're
you're Father you feel like your father's talking
down to you Probably isn't really a good scenario.
We like good heads. Yeah But is that is dad's
a fighter that you know his that type of love
is he wants to toughen his son up towards the
world like dads are supposed to harden you up
like That the dad is supposed to take you into
rubber and turn you into like titanium, you know
You use or mold you from rubber to titanium like
that the dad is supposed to make you harder Because
life would never be fair to you as a man. Nobody
cares about your feelings. Nobody cares if you
had a bad day. Nobody gives a fuck if you're
poor. If you're poor as a man, men make fun of
you. If you're poor as a woman, men take care
of you. Somebody will take care of you. What
I'm saying is like, and I know it sounds shitty
to say that, but think about it. Nobody gives
a fuck about men. Nobody cares about men. Nobody
ever cares about a man's emotions. Oh, suck it
up. You're a bitch. You got to take care of it.
You better get it together. Like, you know, but
we have emotions too. And if they're left unattended,
like we're fucked, we're fucked. Like, that's
what I'm saying. Like Roger needs that. Like
he's missing that component or somebody gives
a fuck about his emotions because men don't care
about other men. He's surrounded by way too many
men. Like, you know, Like even the studies that
have come out where they talk about like men's
psychological health or people that have walked
in men's shoes. You know what I mean? Like they
went from like women who wanted to try to be
a man, right? Like walking or became a man and
try to like hold that or they do the experiments.
They find that it's so depressing to be a man
because nobody gives a shit about you. You lose
friends. You know what I mean? Like everything,
like. The world's cruel to men. That's what I'm
saying. He is a poster child for unvetted men's
mental health. That's where I'm going with that.
That makes sense. He needs some love and caring
in his life. He needs to work those issues out.
He needs to find it within himself. He doesn't
need it from everyone else. He needs to learn
to love himself. Like, and that's, that's where
like moms come into play. Moms help you find
that love for yourself. You know, moms are the
people that they give you the, you know, it's
going to be all right. You know, like this and
this and this, and like that extra support you
need in times that you're weak. You know, you
tell your dad like, oh man, life's fucking suck.
I'm struggling this and that. They'll be like,
I don't know, but you got to figure it out. Like,
I don't know what the fuck can tell you. You
know, it's just a different dynamic. Yeah, it's
crazy. I'm sorry. I made it all sad now. It's
all good. That's a good moment. Good, wholesome
moment. I'm texting my girlfriend that I am here
and that she needs to move her car so I can park.
I can still talk. I don't want to keep you more
of your time. I told you an hour. I enjoy these
conversations. Yeah, we're over to now. So, yeah,
we're over to know. I've been driving the entire
time, too. I know that's that's the crazy part.
Like it was like, damn, you're that far away
from work. Holy shit. Well, no, I was in my work.
I mean, I was not in my work. And then I went
to my I was in my work truck, the Ford F -250
that I drive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, shit. Is
there any promotions that you would want to work?
All of them. I don't give a shit, dude. But I'm
saying like you get a contract in front of you.
You got WWE, AEW, Ring of Honor, TNA. Is there
one that you would like? They're all the same
companies now. They are and they aren't. Is there
one that you're kind of like, this is my dead
set? Or would you rather just... Spend your time
on the indies. There's guys like that. I know
I'm never going to be signed by WWE or whatever,
so I'm enjoying my time on the indies trying
to hit as many states as possible and shit like
that. MLW, NWA, my tattoo artist tattoos Billy
Corrigan's lawyer. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. I've
been on podcasts with quite a few people and
I've been in talks with certain things. uh mlw's
on my radar nwa uh tna would be cool nxt wwe
aw i just want to entertain any place that gives
me an opportunity to entertain people yeah you
know and if if i could uh you know if i have
to work a job anywhere i have a cdl so i'm pretty
employable in every state so if even if i have
to move somewhere I'd have to do some type of
like part time or this or that while I'm, you
know, employed or under contract. Because, you
know, if I get signed with MLW, they can't pay
me like what I make here. Yeah. You know, like
as a truck driver, I make, you know, a decent
living. Yeah. Just not in California. You're
still poor in California. Yeah. You know, you
guys know, you know what the lower middle class
is in California? No. I can't remember. I think
it's like $180 ,000 a year right now. It's disgusting.
Yeah. And I'm pretty sure like medium average
wage is probably somewhere almost three figures.
I want to say actually median wage in Maine for
the lower mid -class, I think it's around something
like $45 ,000 a year. But people can't even make
that on average. No. I would love to take my
California money and then move to Maine. I would
be king of the castle. You would be able to buy
a house and so much land. Here's the thing about
Maine. The only shitty thing about Maine is that
you've got to deal with the four seasons. Depending
on who you are and where you are in Maine, your
winter is basically year -round. I love the fact
that we have seasons in Maine. You know what
I hate about Maine? Driving fucking Maine. To
get out of the state is at least three hours.
To get out of the state. Both me and Kat are
truck drivers, so we understand. It's just driving.
Why? Why is it hard to drive out of Maine? Is
it just one freeway? It's a giant state. The
roads are garbage. I don't want to hear about
giant state. I live in California, asshole. We
have more coastline than you, by the way. You
have more coastline than us? Maine actually has
more coastline than California because of the
way Maine's shaped. It's kind of funny. That's
hot. Because of how big Maine is, literally you
can take the rest of New England and put it into
Maine. I used to live in northern Maine. I'm
talking the top of the state. For me to go from
northern Maine... Are you Googling me? Not to
prove you wrong. We know when you get curious.
And you're like, shit, I might be wrong. I've
got one of the people that wants to argue with
you. I just want to see it for myself. Oh, no,
no, that's legit. To finish the story, I used
to live in northern Maine. And for me to go from
my hometown in northern Maine to, like, say,
New Hampshire was eight and a half hours. Eight
and a half hours, yeah. Oh, fuck that. Center
Maine is Bangor so far. It's so big. It's, like,
oddly big. It's a weird shape because there's
not all the towns, all the major on the East
Coast or on the bottom half of the state. The
top half of the state is fucking nowhere is no
man's. You literally it becomes fields and it
becomes numbers at a certain point. There's no
town. They're just numbers. I call those the
droid towns. the clanker towns no the droid town
seriously like tr18 it's a droid but yeah bangor
is the center of maine to get to bangor to prescott's
three hours to get to bangor to portland's three
hours how fast are you driving it takes you three
hours from bangor to portland how fast bangor
bangor because i can get the bangor to portland
in two and a half bangor to prescott is an hour
45 to prescott It takes me eight hours to go
to fucking uh, like Like middle southern california
to like middle northern california. I don't want
to fucking hear it. Yeah I mean No, even if I
take the vibe even if I get in my truck on a
cdl trip It'll be like a nine hour drive if i'm
in my car Um, I could probably get it in six.
If I'm on my motorcycle, I'm going to get pulled
over the entire fucking time. So I won't even
try. Yeah. Fucking cops see me on my motorcycle.
They're like, oh yeah, fuck that guy. And I pulled
over every time like adult, you know, like what
a fucking moron I am. Like I could have run.
Huh? It's like, do you got shit to do? This is
like the third time. Bro, yeah. Bro, I got pulled
over by this fucking cop, and he was like, you
know how fast you were going? And I was like,
you know how fast I was going? And he was like,
no, but you fucking flew around that charger,
and I had him clocked at 100. And I was like,
well, then we're at a fucking standstill, aren't
we? And he goes, no, because I have it on camera,
because I was going to pull the charger over,
and he flew past both of us. And I was like,
well, who told you to hide? Well, you know, I
was splitting lanes and I just came around and
fucking, I just was going in and out of the carpool
lane illegally because I don't give a shit. And
I just fucking like just gassed it. And before
I know it, I'm like going 130 and I look and
I'm like, I just passed a cop. In California,
right? Oh yeah, it's legal. You can't exit and
enter the carpool lane when it's closed off.
I do that when I'm listening to certain songs.
I don't know what it is about it, but You Could
Be Mine by Guns N' Roses. If that comes on my
radio when I'm driving, I will look down and
I will be doing 120 miles an hour. It's Adam
Rumble. Something about that song. I don't know
what it is. You have a bike? No, no, just my
car. I have yet to get a bike. See, I don't even
have a motorcycle license. I ride dirty as shit.
I don't give a fuck. I get on my bike and I'm
just like, let's fucking go! With the fucking
French tires that I just speed. Where's your
license? Do you have a license for this? I mean,
no, I have a license, guys. I have a license.
100%. No, they took they took it off when I got
my my CDL because they knocked off my endorsements
So I have to read I have to re -get it and then
right now my hazard lights won't turn on on my
Motorcycle because I ran through a fucking car
mirror. It was a either hitting this car or a
box truck So I blew through this car mirror and
it hit my fucking throttle like the throttle
assembly and for some reason my hazard light
button just got jammed in there and my my fucking
am i i have the uh the on the end of my bike
i have my my rear view mirrors or not my rear
view my side mirrors and they knocked my fucking
side mirror off so i have one side mirror and
my hazards won't turn on so i can't go to the
dmv and get my m1 anytime soon because i'm i'm
spending all my money on other shit right now
yeah yeah so yeah like this fucking truck That's
$3 ,900 I ever fucking paid right here. I love
this thing. That's nice. It's just a work truck.
There's nothing special. The radio doesn't work,
but it fucking flies, and it's comfy. Usually,
that's the best trucks are the work trucks. It's
comfortable as shit. It might break down, but
at least you enjoy the ride. It never breaks
down. Never. Not even close. I take care of it.
I get it serviced. And it has leaf springs in
the back. Oh, yeah, dude. It's a super duty.
I'm fully in love with this thing. That's dope.
Yeah, dude. You can't fucking beat it. Tomorrow,
I'm going to GCW. We're going to go back to wrestling.
I'm just going to talk to people. Hopefully,
they like me. I'm going to wear something very
provocative and just keep dropping quarters and
picking them up slowly. Hopefully, that does
the trick. rent lauderdale's attention i don't
know what will i was gonna say that that does
go into like one of our normal questions uh it's
like um tell us where we can like where we can
find you on the internet and we'll find you all
those fun spots your plugs your plugs there you
go thank you i'm not gonna bring to work anymore
i was gonna say hold on Now, Doug underscore
Malo is my YouTube. Just underscore the underscore
epic is my Instagram. That's all I really use.
I have Facebook too, which is, I think it changed
it to the epic. The TikTok is just the epic.
I don't really use TikTok or Facebook because
Facebook, I just get too many. I was told to
stop talking about them, but I get a lot of dick
pics through my fucking messages on fucking Facebook
for some reason. Uh, yeah. So I don't, I don't
ever go on there. And then I get random phone
calls at like all hours of the night, just massively
like mass phone calls. Uh, that's terrible. But,
uh, I'm going to be at Hollywood championship
wrestling in Oxnard, uh, California Tuesday.
Um, I booked in San Diego on the 18th. Uh, I'm
also booked on the 25th in Bakersfield, a rodeo
pro wrestling. I should be doing something with
Relentless Pro Wrestling pretty soon. And then
the third and the fourth are tentative. But it
looks like the fourth might be all but confirmed.
You might be seeing me at a major event doing
some type of run -in promo stuff. You never know.
Yeah, cool. Yeah, you might see Ace with me too.
you should you should because if you don't keep
a lookout for me what's you know like i'm your
favorite wrestler how are you going to have a
favorite wrestler if you're not keeping a lookout
for me exactly we went over this earlier today
i'm your favorite fucking wrestler don't ever
fucking forget that like whenever somebody asks
you who's your favorite fucking wrestler you
tell them like bro the epic's my favorite wrestler
and then you ask that person who's your favorite
wrestler and when they talk you say shut your
fucking stupid mouth You dumb prick. The epic's
your favorite wrestler. You don't even know it
yet, so now that you fucking know, don't ever
be that fucking stupid again. Before you ever
have another fucking dumb thought, fucking come
to me like an adult and let me fucking fix it
for you and let you know what's happening for
you because clearly you didn't have it down.
The epic's your favorite wrestler. I'm using
this on my next show. I'm doing this to somebody
on my next show. I went to fucking WrestleMania
in Vegas after we worked for Knox. And that's
when I had the fireworks, the motorcycles, whatnot.
So I went to WrestleMania and I just walked through
all the lines of people getting all the merch
and doing shit. And I was like, hey, who's your
favorite wrestler? They're like, John Cena. I
said, shut the fuck up. It's me. I'm your favorite
fucking wrestler. And then I was taking pictures
with all these fans and getting to know all these
people. They're like, who are you? Like, I'm
Epic. Shut your fucking mouth. I just got promos
on everybody. And then when the Roger shit happened,
there has been like 50 fucking people from WrestleMania
hitting me up with pictures like, hey, I met
you this day. I met you at this time. Like, I
remember you. Yeah, they were like, bro, you're
the funniest fucking person. You're so fun to
be in live. And I was like, thank you. I wasn't
being hilarious. I was generally being rude to
you. But, you know, yeah, they should have known.
Who the fuck, man? I'm a big fucking deal. And
if you don't know about it, it's your fault.
You know what I mean? Like, you got to do better
research. You really got to. You got to hone
in with the universe, you know? That spider,
you know what I mean? He just met me and look
at his first reaction. Sucked my dick. Didn't
even take me to dinner first. Just went straight
for it because he knew that I was his favorite.
Skipped a third base real fucking quick. Yeah,
he did. Just one of those tender dates. I mean,
the worst part is... Yeah, and I didn't even
become Spider -Man. That's the worst part about
it. Like, comic books are bullshit. Nothing but
fucking lies in there. I read these things my
whole life. I always wanted to be Captain America.
I thought Spider -Man was cool. That happens
to me. Not even the fucking superpower. I think
I have arthritis now. Fucking dog, dude. Fuck
that spider. A dick the size of a potato and
arthritis. Yeah, and now it's normal, so it's
not even fun to talk about anymore. Now it just
fucking stares at the floor. You know? Yeah.
Now it's just, yeah. Now it's like, wait, it
just stares in front. Like, when are you going
to use me? You just have me in the wrestling
ring getting hit all the time. You know, apparently
my dick's Morty from the Simpsons. Family guy.
Family guy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, geez. Another low
blow. God, you got to get better at this shit.
I think I hear that voice. I still I just think
Phil were from Rockers butter life. Oh, did any
guys ever been low blood for real? Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to hear the story
about a rip bison versus beef? Oh, yes. So there
was a so it was a rip bison versus beef. They
were they did like some kind of was like a storyline.
This was building up and they were doing it.
Was it was it a dog? Collar match or not. It
was a Chain together whatever I can't remember
and they had security there to help them put
it on and Then they were gonna fight off security
and then we'd fuck off and then they would get
into it So before everything we're all standing
there. Thankfully. I was on beef side. I Mean
that beef out rip side and rips like okay. I'll
do this. This is whatever And Beef is talking
to the other guys. And he goes, I'll do a low
blow to you or a kick or whatever. And he goes,
if you don't actually hit me in the nuts, that's
fine. He goes, no, you're fine. I got you. We
do the spot. We roll out. And Dave Dyer. Like
crawling on the floor like crawling back to the
to the locker room and he's like what happened
he goes He legit fucking straight up He's like
he lifted me basically already kicked me I Got
kicked in a dick like my first in -ring appearance
was like a rumble And first, everybody no sold
my rumble entrance and just fucking left me walking
into a ring like jacking off. Like, all right,
no one's going to bump and feed. Cool. Thanks,
everybody. No, nothing. I had fans there and
they were just like, yeah, you know, just like,
yeah, I just jerk off at everybody. It's fucking
terrible. But anyways, there was a midget. He's
not really a midget, but he's an asshole. I kick
him in the corner lightly. I guess the rubber
of my shoe gave his tummy a little scuff. I was
doing something with him. I'm no selling his
shit because he's 5 '2". I don't give a fuck.
I turn around to do something and he full on
toe punted me in the balls. I almost vomited.
He hit me so hard. I'm sitting in the fucking
corner and I'm trying to catch my fucking composure.
I'm mad. Like he went to do something. I like
punched him in the shin and like fucking, he
like wanders off. Like, I think I'm in trouble.
And then, uh, dipshit who I don't really want
to talk about or sell the one that gassed up
the whole situation. Does a fucking like rolling,
uh, it's not a rolling. What's that? Like that's
diving, spinning kick to the corner. And he has
combat boots on and he's got gangly fucking body
that he can't control. And his fucking steel
toe or the heel of his fucking steel toe boots
tipsy or like full flush kicks me in the forehead.
The guy that was sitting on my lap at the time,
I picked him up and threw him to the other side
of the ring. And everyone knows that came from
my friends group that I'm out for blood. And
then here he is. Hey, bro, calm down. Push him
off. I'm like, get the fuck off me. I'm about
to go full on fucking murder mode. And I was
sitting there walking out of the fucking ring
and I spit a little throw up out and I'm sitting
there because now the ball shot. It's coming
back to me as my adrenaline's pumping. I'm just
sitting there like, I can't fucking believe this,
bro. Like legit almost shit my pants from getting
kicked in the ball so hard. Yeah. Like I was
like fucking like, like queefing out of my ass,
like trying to fart, like fucking my balls. I
can't, I can't think this is too much. I was
just fucking sputtering and puckering everywhere.
I'm like, I can't believe this. Who would do
this to me? Sounds like like it's shitty because
we get the same thing but it seems like yours
is like really worse situation Just a lot of
people have fucking egos things. They're the
fucking the oh, yeah six -foot giant that can
doesn't bump for anybody whatever like my style
is like usually smaller guys like whatever same
way like i you know it's good i'm gonna i'll
still bump for you but you you know you're gonna
give me a little bit before i do whatever i got
in the room with you you're fucking throwing
me around well i'm not gonna yeah it's like i'm
not bumping for people that don't have like that
don't look violent and don't have a lot of muscle
unless they do a shit ton of stuff unless we
tell a really good story and it makes sense Because
why would I bury myself to the audience that
came here to see Big Scary Monster Guy? My personality
is eccentric and crazy. Deadpool is basically
my personality. Perverted, absolutely violent,
and thinks everything is funny. That's right
up my alley. The more rational side of me is
very empathetic. I cry a lot. I'm a little bitch
inside. Uh, but like my ring work is the other
side of me that that's that. Right. So I get
into the ring with people. They want to see this
crazy guy do crazy shit. You know, they don't
want to see me bump around for somebody who's
five foot six with a beer belly. Right. Exactly.
You know, you shouldn't be bumping around five
foot six with a beer belly. Yeah. Oh yeah. That
was our heavyweight champion at Knox. He was
like five, six with a beer belly and had to put
himself over every match and wanted you to. He's
like, he wants to hit me with a snap mare and
expects me to roll. It's like, if you try to
give me a snap mare and you're not strong enough
to give me anything in real life, I should have
just pushed you forward. Yeah. You know, but
like, no, if I would have done that, I never
would have got booked again. Right. You know?
So it's like, that's why I'm kind of happy to
go out into the real world with people that have
rational conversations. Like when I, that guy
did the suplex on Oak. Um, I, in the middle of
our match, uh but it was actually very funny
if you guys watch that i'll send you guys a full
clip you want to see something funny i'll slow
it down the ref kind of shot on us in our match
it was doing way too much and taking away from
our match and oak and i were talking in the middle
of the match he was like get the out of here
and he's telling the ref so i grabbed the ref
by his hair and i grab him shoot throw him by
his hair across the ring i'm the baby face too
i was just like this guy Yeah. Yeah. Because
like, I don't want people interrupting my matches
and doing crazy shit anymore. You know? Yeah.
So Oak and I started talking more because that
kind of like took our feng shui away, but we
played our parts so well in that match and talk
the entire time. And, and it turned out to be
fucking great. Like, I can't wait to have more
experiences like that with everybody. I've had
a lot of those experiences, but like, that was
one of my favorites. Cause Oak is. If you ever
get a chance to work a guy named Moke, he's originally
from Virginia. He's so fun to have in the rink.
Like, that guy will tell a story with you. If
your promotion has you super over, he'll play
along with it. He doesn't have a terrible ego.
You know, he's fun. I had to put him over real
quick. Yeah, especially in Virginia, you know,
so close to, you know, if he comes back home,
whatever, it's so close to Maine. Or any other
spots. Massachusetts is also another big ground
that a lot of people like to promote. Yeah, Mass
has like a bazillion shows. A bazillion shows.
Chaotic's the biggest one out of Massachusetts.
Wrestle Open, Beyond. I need to go to Mass. I
got a lot of people want to see me at Mass, and
I want to go there. Yeah, Wrestle Open and Beyond,
Chaotic. You'd love it. Yeah, dude. I got to
hit them up. I'll hit them up. Do you guys do
gentle ribs in a ring? What's your favorite gentle
rib? Gentle rib? Oh, yeah. No, hold on. I got
to go over this one. So there's a wrestler that
wrestles up here in Maine, and he kind of talks
like, how you doing? Like that. How you doing?
Fucking Rocky. Yeah, kind of. Think Rocky with
the speech again. Almost perfect. One of the
guys. Literally an IQ of like 10. It's fucking
perfect. So anytime I work at this kid named
Storm, Storm loves to do it. He'll grab me in
like a front chancery or something and all of
a sudden he'll be like, I will start cracking
up and I try so hard not to, but I'm really glad
every time he does it, he has me face down because
I will start, you can watch my back start going
up and down because I'm laughing. And I'm like,
God damn it, stop. I love that. I'm notorious
for pinching people in the dick if they need
to slow down. If they're so wound up, they're
like, ah, they're like running around. I'm like,
bitch, slow down. Like, let me, let me chill
for a second. And if I can come back, I'm like
pinch. Like during the Raja. Oh my God. During
the live stream when Raja, he's talking about
what he's going to do in the ring. And one of
the people in the chat goes, I think he just
pinched him in the dick. And Roger goes, I didn't
see him pinch him in the dick. I did it and I
did it in that match watching me in the ring.
I was like, yeah, my buddy Zeke smashed me. And
I was like, bitch, like don't smash me again.
I don't want to get smashed. He went to go do
it. And I pitched him right in the dick. And
he, you can see him like flinch in the match.
It's hilarious because it gets people to rethink
and calm down immediately. You know, like when
you see somebody, yeah. Sorry, go ahead. I was
just going to say, just speaking of blowing themselves,
like, being hyped up, I joke on my entrance almost,
like, when I come out from my baby entrance,
I'm like, and I get to the ring, and I'm like,
oh, God, okay, shouldn't have done that. I love
blowing up on the way to the ring. So when I
work with Ace, I got to go get my Spartan helmet.
Fuck, I come out with a whole on, like, Leonidas
all -black Spartan helmet, and it's got red paint
for the... uh of handprints on the side of the
head all the way down it looks fucking dope so
i'll come out with my fucking spartan helmet
i'm like doing my ring shit up on every fucking
ring post blowing up like that one's not so bad
the other entrance i do i sprint to the ring
and there's a song called battle drums it's a
song i pretty much have on my instagram all over
the place that and i'll fucking sprint to the
ring jump get animated run around do the ultimate
warrior all over the place And there's a second
breakdown. And when it goes, I'll scream and
yell at the fucking sky, do my whole power up.
And I sprint to the turnbuckles and jump up to
the second one. I start getting the whole crowd,
the fucking fist bump and head nod with me. Then
I'll jump down and sprint to the other side.
By the time I get done with that, I literally,
I feel like I just had a whole match. And I'm
like, that was a mistake, but everyone loves
it. So I'm like. Okay. I got to have a happy
medium here. This is bullshit. Everybody don't.
Yeah. Don't applaud this. You fucking animals.
Don't you? Don't get it. Yeah. Yeah. Let me,
let me powder out here. You know what I'm saying?
Like, this is fucking bullshit. Yeah, man, I
have fun, but I'm going to go inside. Okay. Oh,
no, no. Hold on. Tell me that. What's one of
your favorite? my favorite wrestling ribs that
ever had happened to me was on one of the shows
that i ran um it was like the second show i ever
ran me and my our wrestling dad one of my best
friends we were we were in the main event and
after the match was over me and him were like
hugging in the ring we were all like baby baby
and we're all just you know happy -go -lucky
and the show with a good with a good note and
as i turned around he just proceeds to just like
take a staple gun because we had just done a
hardcore match and he's like hugging me from
behind but meanwhile he's just stapling my asshole
and he's just keeps going i don't feel it for
the first like three hits i just hear the clicking
sound and i go what the fuck is that all of a
sudden he goes like right underneath the crease
of my ass cheek he just goes click click click
and i'm like you motherfucker and i'm like it
in because I turn around and I'm like, you fucking
dick. Dude, that's so funny. I love that. After
that, he was going up to conversations, just
having conversations with people where they'd
sit right next to him and he'd wait for them
to look towards the other person that's talking
and he'd just staple right in the chest. Yeah.
I got mine in the shoulder. Oh, dude. I hate
staples. Like, you motherfucker, you stay away
from me. I've been seeing you doing this. You're
not doing it to me. Yeah, hell no. Hell no. He
was walking around, he's like, hey, Nix, what?
Staple. I'm like, son of a bitch. You know what?
You know what would be really funny to do? I
would be down to do this with you guys, too,
speaking of just because we had a fun conversation.
You ever see the dog shot collars? Yes. Yes.
Everybody put a dog shot collar on. and whoever
makes the most noise gets shocked and then we'll
do a gimmick where the fucking manager has the
fucking collar we'll give somebody one with a
remote start and like we'll have the manager
like flirting with the crowd shocking somebody
randomly even though they're not talking because
then the other people while they're getting shocks
that have a hard time not laughing and this thing's
just gonna break down into a shit show oh my
god i would never match doing that it would be
the greatest thing ever we just gotta have the
audience in on it you know what i mean Because
yeah, I don't know. I've always thought about
doing it because as far as like it's not about
being hardcore It's just that's entertainment
like in its pure sense and then yeah ripping
off the shock collar to have it go into a fucking
Smosh DQ and then he could bring out the gimmicks
like the chairs and have it fucking have you
know Great. Yeah What started out with just complete
calamity the audience would be so sold on fucking
watching people get shocked every time they like
they vocalize anything I'd fucking lose it if
I saw that shit. Or even the fucking heel teams
get the babyface to wear the fucking shot collars
and then they're fucking tossing them around
the whole time. And then the babyface is finding
a way to get them off. And then finally they
get them back on the fucking heel team at the
end of the match and torture the fucking heels.
I don't know. I've always wanted to do those.
I don't know why I have an obsession with them,
but I'm always like, we've got to get dog shot
callers. That'd be so funny. I've got to get
inside. I think I'm going to work out or do something.
I don't know yet. Thank you so much for coming
on again. Anytime you want to jump in, if you're
in chat, whatever, we'll fucking send you a link.
Let's set it up. Why don't we do a match review?
We should do bad match reviews. One of us, whoever
has a match next, let's break down whoever's
match it is and don't try to be critical. Let's
just shit on it. That would be JP and Nick. That
would be JP and Nick. JP and me. It would be
our shit match. Dude, that would be fucking great.
Let's just all shit on it. The next match I have,
We can shit on it. Or I can go over my old matches,
like some of my first ones, and you can be like,
wow, you're fucking terrible. I'm like, I know.
Let's talk about what happened here. I can't
watch my old matches. Bring your debut in. We
will watch your debut match. Let's not talk about
your old matches. I think one of my debut solo
match was a handicap match. And I shot on somebody
there because they shot on me. He hit me as hard
as he could in the neck to start the match and
legit hurt my neck in the very start of the match.
He even got reprimanded. Why would you hit this
guy so fucking hard? He's 260 pounds and you
put your entire body weight and dropped an elbow
into his neck after sprinting across the ring.
What the fuck are you doing? I picked him up
at one of the points in the match and I threw
him between the ring and the steel cage. Then
he wanted to go off the top rope and throw a
line and take a bump. But I made sure that when
he went off I made complete full contact with
his body and he like fucking spiked his Whole
shit into the ring. I was like my neck still
hurts. I'll kill you You're getting all of this,
yeah I was so I was green and hot like I didn't
know how to handle situations Oh, he's back.
All right. My girlfriend's calling me. Your girl
cut you off. Yeah, no, we should, we got a link
up and do more shit. I like talking to you guys.
You're a fucking fun. Yeah, it was great. It
was a blast. Definitely. I should get you on
because we have a masterclass podcast that we
do. We should do a blended one. So maybe you
could pick up some of his audience and vice versa.
Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. He's a fucking great
guy. I can do that with a couple other podcasts.
People have been wanting me to roundtable all
kinds of shit. And I really feel like the indie
community, we need to pull together and start
really getting each other out there. Because
if we don't do that, we're assholes. Yeah, right.
Yeah. Like, I'm sorry, but there's so many cool
people in the indies that don't get a spotlight.
So many fun, humorous people. The people that
get spotlighted are the overly opinionated and
fucking gatekeepers on fun. Yeah. The cancelers.
Yeah. They fucking gatekeep fucking fun. Like,
bro, let people have different opinions. You'll
find out that you might still like them even
though you feel a different way than them. We're
supposed to all have fun doing this shit. This
shit's supposed to be fun. What's crazy to me
is my tag team partner Alex Ace and I have completely
different political views. We agree and disagree
on something scientifically. We have great conversations
and we're still best friends and I love him to
death and would never Like, you know what I mean?
Like there's not an ounce of, of love lost between
us because our differences, you know? Like, yeah,
I feel like, yeah, it's hard to do that with
people because there's, there's so ideologically
like attached to everything. And I'm like, I
could care less, you know, I don't give a fuck.
I see Alex for what he is. He's a, a great man.
Who's great with fucking kids, people. And he,
he advocates for me when I don't, I don't, I
have a hard time communicating sometimes. So
he always makes sure that like, I don't get frustrated.
We communicate better with matches. Even if he's
not involved in a match, he fucking takes care
of me. I see all of the great in him and I'm
like, why would anybody hate this person for
anything? I'm pretty sure he feels the same about
me, even though he knows I'm batshit crazy. Well,
you have a good night. I don't want to keep you
waiting. I don't want her to fucking drag you
out of the truck. She might. I'm kind of scared.
Thank you again so much for coming on. Yeah,
definitely. We've been DMM, so we'll talk back
and forth. You guys have my phone number? Yeah.
Don't say it on the air, but you could send it.
Oh shit. I forgot we were live. I did. I almost
did that. I'm so not smart. You can send it to
Kat. Well, I'll give it to me and I'll give you,
I'll give it to you guys and I'll send you. I
was just talking about people jacking off on
their fucking zoom calls and shit like that.
And here I am about to blurt my fucking number
out on the internet. Man, you know what I should
do? I should get a number of somebody I don't
like and put that on the internet for everybody
to call. I know a couple numbers I can give you.
Especially just recently, yeah. I'm surprised
you didn't catch him on your show. One guy just
recently. You could have definitely got that
guy. Bro, there's a couple people that I've been
waiting to see that I know that are a little
fucking funny, and I just don't have the hard
proof yet, and I can't wait to see them on the
show. Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. It's either that or
they're going to be out in town just walking
around thinking that the sun is shining and everything's
beautiful, and I'm just going to catch up with
a fucking stray. Yeah. I'd be like, hey, what
did my fist say to your face? Like, fuck you,
homie. Leave kids alone. I don't know. Sometimes
you don't have enough proof to put people away,
but you have enough proof to know that they're
a fucking scoundrel. I come after those people,
but they tend to run away or hide behind certain
things or hide in general. Yeah, but I'm here
for it. Anyways, guys, I'm going to get beat
up. This will be fun. Let's do it again. Hell
yeah. Definitely. This is great. I'll DM you
my number and then, you know, let's all talk
and set some shit up. Yeah. Perfect. And I'm
going to go live tomorrow. Most likely when I'm
at GCW. Um, so if you guys want to jump into
the live, uh, shout out stuff, we could all talk
shit together. I can make you guys moderators.
Uh, yeah. I'm just saying like, we can all have
fun. Like everything that I'm doing and stuff.
If you guys want to jump in, I've enjoyed you
guys so much. Um, hit me up and be like, let
me jump in on this. And like, we can figure it
out. Okay. I like to give back. There's so many
great experiences out there. I feel like I want
to set up Indie Mania. I don't know if you guys
heard about that before I go. I started listening
to it on your YouTube. Okay. Yeah. We all need
to do it. We all got to push for this on the
East Coast. We got to get all the word out. Matt
Cardona would be the biggest draw. Obviously
the biggest Indie star. Big Trouble Ben Bishop
would be fucking fantastic. I've met him a couple
times. Yeah, Mikey O'Shea, Alex Ace. Because
Saudi Arabia is going to have WWE in two years,
but I think if we do it by next year, in 2026,
and have an Indie Mania, one, while WWE is still
in -house, we do it on a separate timeline than
them, and then we build it, get the kinks out,
and then do it again the second year when they're
in Saudi. Yeah. Yeah, especially since no one
can enjoy it when it's in Saudi. Yeah, that's
what I'm saying. We should set up Indie Mania,
and we should make it like a fucking mortgage
board festival, put hardcore matches in circus
tents, get a big ring and a good crowd around
it, and just fucking go ham. Well, the hardcore,
you know this guy right here, JP O 'Reilly. He
loves hardcore shit, so he'll do any stupid shit.
Yeah, get you with Journey 5 too. I was thinking
Nick Cage, but that works, too. Oh, yeah, Nick
Cage. That'd be fucking dope. Nicky's my fucking
boy. I was going to say, you have his number,
don't you? Yeah, you could talk to Nick. Nick's
a stud, dude. That'd be a fucking dream. If somebody
ever tried to get me in a hardcore match, though,
and they brought the light tubes out, I'm telling
you right now, I would steal all of your light
tubes and roll around in them like an angry dog
at the dog park that doesn't want to leave. And
I will, I would just fucking ruin all the glory
because I didn't want to do it. I ended up like
jigsaw from fucking Punisher. I was like, yeah.
I was like, now what? You fucking, you wanted
to do this? I get all the glory. Fuck you. It
sucks when it's already broken down and you're
just bumping it. It's just as bad. I just think
in the video, Mr. Glass, when I, when I think
of the tubes. Yeah. Have a good night, Doug.
I'm just saying. Hey, you have sweet dreams.
Think of the Cup Chicks, okay? Have a good one,
bud. Catch you, man. Dude, Doug's a shit. That
guy is a freaking character. That is awesome.
Oh, my God. Did you guys see? I just shared something
in the chat with you. It's the freaking Ricky
Morton wearing this belt that's about the size
of his torso. Dude, we have so many chats that
we couldn't get to because I didn't want to cut
Doug off. I know. Because I was enjoying every
fucking moment. It's like, oh. Hello. If you
guys are watching or listening to this later,
I'm going to go through everything really quick.
Lee Miller, Keith Harford, Yeet Witherspoon,
Steve Zampf. I haven't talked to Steve in forever.
Jesus Christ. Shock, shock. Who else we got?
We had Cameron Dow. Cameron Dow. D -Bone. D -Bone.
pod while we were at the show, like the random
people. Dude, we kept on going from between 5
and 10. It kept on fluctuating. Hello to everyone
that we couldn't say hello to during the chat.
The only shitty thing is now I'm going to have
to put it on... Oh, yeah. I'm going to have to
put it on... I'm going to have to flip the fuck
out of this podcast. Yeah, sadly. But we want
to say hello to everyone because we didn't get
a chance to say hello to everyone. Thank you
for listening and being really cool and hanging
out with us and Doug and listen to Doug's stories
about, you know. I'm not kidding. I want to see
Doug and Ben in the fucking room together. I
don't think we'd survive. I think we would all
die. They would be best friends instantly and
fucking doing this crazy shit. Either best friends
or hating each other. There's no in between.
I had to pee at the start of this podcast and
I held it in an entire time because I didn't
want to miss a fucking second. I've got a voice
just because I couldn't hold it. Dude, it's...
I really enjoyed him. One of my favorite guests.
One of my favorite guests on. Do we have anything
else tonight? That was it. These interviews,
the interviews, I literally just do interviews
now. I'm sorry, but it's literally for this reason.
I told him an hour. We are almost three hours
on the podcast. Well, at least he enjoyed it.
He wanted to stick around. That's true. That's
true. At the end, we're like, Doug, go. Your
girl's going to kill you. I was waiting for it.
Just the door to pop open and just fucking just
grab. You come with me. i'll tell you what now
that's probably probably the most entertaining
podcast yeah probably more entertaining than
any of big cats matches so i mean oh are we literally
gonna dude i'm gonna kick your ass next week
so hey by the way if you guys care i actually
debuted new hampshire and i fought for a title
in my debut match and the stupidest fucking thing
is you had to have a fucking license to do it
I do, and I've got it now. It's so stupid that
you have to have a fucking license. It's because
New Hampshire is the only one that still has
an athletic commission. It's not just New Hampshire.
I think it's Alabama, Kentucky, and a few other
states. Well, I'm going to say New England is
the only one. It's the only reason I took so
long to get into New Hampshire because I didn't
have a license. and luckily there's no athletic
commission at the show um even if there was i
had already applied for it i paid for it so i
was just waiting for them to give it to me so
i'd have been like look i'm sure chaotic if they
do anything in nashua they have an athletics
commission in nashua well chaotic's also huge
man chaotic's like it'd be like limitless doing
shit in new hampshire so chaotic is pretty fucking
big like but uh Yeah, man. But speaking of DJ
Power, I took on and I was... Of all people.
Dude, I was super nervous. Yeah. It's a title
match and it's him. It's a title match. DJ Power,
who's really, really, really good. He gets there.
And he got there a little later, too, because
he had some stuff going on. And he looks at me,
he's like, so what do you want to do? And I was
like, well, I thought this for the shine, you
get a cut off here, do your heat, this for the
comeback, this for the finish. Like I'd called
the match. He looks at me, he goes, yeah, that's
good. Walks away. I was like, did I really just
call match DJ powers? Then of course, Monty does
our finishing and his, his match first match.
He does our finish. And I was like, okay, so
DJ. Luckily, we were fine. I'm always worried.
I'm always worried with working people. When
we had Anthony Green in the ring, even in the
Rumble, I'm like, I'm not touching you. I'm going
to go this way so I don't fuck anything up. He
feared me when I came out with a fucking trash
can because if you watch that show back, he didn't
want to get hit. He stays out on the outside
of the lake. after i had done all the weapon
shit yeah exactly it's funny too because like
you throw a fucking pine uh fucking um uh fucking
word i want to say I want to say pinecone. It
wasn't a pinecone. It was a pumpkin. He chucked
a fucking pumpkin at me. I was waiting for him
to say pineapple. And it fucking bounced off
Ben's head and it flew into the crowd. He was
trash canning and cannonballing at the corner.
That fucking hurt, asshole. But I was joking.
I was talking to Jason about this, too, on the
way down. I'm like, you know, we're always...
if it's us working each other, like, yeah, we'll
lay it in. We're a little snug. We're a little
tight, you know, because it's all of us and we're
just going to laugh about it and have a beer
after. But we're always afraid to like, like
an AG or something like that, like laid in a
little too snug. All of a sudden, like AG's laying
there bleeding. We're like, oh, we're in trouble.
Or the receipt. I'll take the receipt if I screw
up. I'm not worried about that, you know, but
it's like, you know, I don't want to hurt someone,
you know, I know with us, it's like, okay, I
can lay that in a little more snug, you know,
or like donkey when he gets really excited and
starts throwing those fricking. potatoes. Yeah,
Potato City. Hey, now I'm learning from Doug.
We just have Potato City. I get to watch one
of his matches and see his comeback now and I
want to see what it is. Oh, you want to see it
really quick? Second video on his that's pinned
on his. It's fine. Yeah, second video that's
pinned on his. I watched him do that too and
I'm like, jeez, that must fucking suck. They're
actually throwing fucking rounds at each other.
I'll be honest, it's midnight and I am ready
to prevent it. Yeah, we're getting going. It's
done. Chicago! Chicago. I should get a drop of
Larry screaming that. just yeah uh soundboard
yeah the soundboard chicago okay do your plugs
there jp um yeah uh follow me jp o'reilly at
everything um facebook instagram youtube pornhub
tiktok whatever um the only place i see you get
downvotes is pornhub yeah well Everyone just
wants to be me and they're jealous, I guess.
Next Friday, Ring Wars 5. We'll be in Brewer,
Maine. Watch JP Lowe stare at the lights. Yeah,
I'll be taking on this fucking roly -poly over
here. For some strange reason, I thought you
were going to call me a woolly mammoth for half
a second. Don't ask me why. I mean, hairy as
hairy can be. I can't wait to kick your teeth.
The big fat. I mean, big cat. And we're who knows
what it'll look like. It'll just probably look
like two fucking blobs of massacre. Just we might
put a hole in the fucking floor. Who the fuck?
You're not allowed to use weapons. Remember that?
Okay, cool. I've wrestled many matches without
weapons, buddy. I'm just saying you're not allowed
to use weapons. I'm just saying. I mean, that'd
be. I'll be a little pissy if you use a weapon
and get yourself disqualified. I know I can beat
you easily, but that's a little too easy. We
have some pretty fucking blind ass referees in
this state. Don't make me go all on on you guys.
Eric Greenleaf is... Alright, shut the fuck up
and do your plugs. Children, behave. Hang on,
I got a couple more because I'm like Kat, so
he only has one beat. Yeah, unlike Kat, who actually
respects, who actually cares about their family
and wants to take care of them. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. While you two are
pissing with each other, I do have a funny -ass
moment. JP, when Amelia walked up over your shoulder,
it was like the little girl from the fucking
ring. Yeah, I'll get out of the audience. It
was literally blurry and then all of a sudden,
kid. It's like... I looked in video at first
before I looked at her and I went, oh, this looks
creepy as fuck. I couldn't keep away from stage
options. I'm like, oh God, this looks creepy
as fuck. I was like, I'm about to die. I have
to watch it back. She walked up and she was like,
you should have had her. What you should teach
her to do is just lean in and go in seven days.
In seven days. I'm going to do it. Or just have
her come up to you and put her hand on your shoulder
when you're not paying attention. Hello, father.
Alright, finish your plugs. October 4th. Are
you doing that show? Okay. September 27th. North
Atlantic Wrestling Association. Bucks. Bucks.
Bucks. Skips. Skips and Gino's. We don't see
where they are. They're just Skips and Gino's.
That's true. And then, yeah, October 24th, Gino's.
There's something in November, but I can't say
it. That's it. I know what you're talking about.
Anyways, your turn. Let's see what I got next
week. I am also at I can't talk about either.
I'm also at ring wars. I'll be there in spirit
Because you be there working sound cuz you're
all you yeah Hey, hey, listen, you might want
to you can call him a sound bitch all you fucking
want But there's a reason why everybody asks
him to fucking do sound. Because they know he's
going to do it correctly. He's not going to fuck
it up. You're getting your old music. Oh, you're
doing music. That's right. Can I have my new
music, please? Send me whatever it is. Yeah,
I'll send you my new music. Anyway, so yes, I'll
be there doing the sound. I might actually wrestle,
depending. I am first alternative. So if someone
doesn't show up. It'll be me. So it'll be you
versus me then because, you know. Wow. No, Cadillac,
you show up. I will show up. You can get out
of bed. Unless it's an emergency, I will show
up. Next night will be, again, that'll be NAWA.
It's Skips in Buxton. Skips is fun. Come down.
Booze is good. The food is freaking awesome.
Their chicken bomb sandwich is good. It's so
tasty. The last time I was at Nawa or at Skip's
was me and B .A. Tatum in a real match. What
the fuck are you doing? I'm thinking, we haven't
done it in a bit. We haven't done another fucking
live show with Benjamins, but at the same time,
I kind of want to have good equipment. Then next
show beyond that will be October 4th for Crown
of Maine Wrestling. That'll be fun. I'm taking
on Chad Casanova once again, and I will drop
him on his little beanie head. Who am I wrestling
on the 4th? You are wrestling Dio Santos. Dio
Santos. Yes, and then after that, there's another
show coming up. I was supposed to wrestle this
weekend, but unfortunately, due to circumstances
beyond everybody's control, there's no show this
weekend. Yeah, due to... you know sad news but
you know it's not it's it's i'm not mad at anyone
i'm just saying no no i'm just saying it's it's
sometimes life is unfair and i was excited to
wrestle and well here we are should happen sadly
and all right and you can find me on all social
media platforms at dotd nix that is dotd n -i
-x um yeah i'll that's pretty much all of them
so all right have at it i'm tired Ring Wars and...
ProSNTs .com, sorry. Yeah, ProSNTs .com. Brain
Buster Tees for Pro Session merch, if you guys
want to see that as well as mine. October 4th,
I will be at Crown of Maine hanging out with
Dylan X, doing his shit. And there's two more
dates I have that I can't talk about. What are
these dates? Am I at these dates? What's going
on with these dates? Well, I know that you're
not, both of you aren't the fourth because I'm
not allowed to talk about it. Okay, you can hit
me in the chat. I don't know what the hell's
going on. I don't know if I'm allowed to talk
about it. It's a very special event. Yeah, hit
me in the chat. I want to know what's going on.
If it leaves the chat, I know who told me. It's
fine. Because I was told not to talk about it.
If he's watching this. Must be desperate, whoever
it is. If I don't hear me in the chat, I don't
care. It's like, yeah, I might not. I probably
won't, because I don't want to. I like to have
secret information. If the secret information
goes out, then... He's just embarrassed. I'm
not. Well, no. Actually, no. This is a pretty
good opportunity, and I'm actually kind of excited
for it. When do you deserve a good opportunity?
Fame is you, buddy. Children, are we going to
hash this out again? Are you going to cut the
podcast again because you were having a little
bitch fit? I wasn't even thinking about it. Don't
you fucking do it. Don't you do it. Don't you
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