Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode
of the Per Sessions Wrestling Podcast. I am your
host, the Mane of Mane, Big Cat Tyler Adams.
And you can catch us live every Friday, 9pm Eastern
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I'm safe to unmute myself. Am I okay, dog? Okay,
so... Nope. The nautical nightmare of Dylan Nixon
is trusty steed. Yeah, no, trusty idiot is what
he is tonight. So, let me explain what's going
on. We just got two new kittens. And I mean,
like, two days ago. Yesterday, actually. Yeah,
Wednesday. So we just got two brand new kittens.
Now, Jasper's not bad with pretty much any animal
in the house. He generally doesn't care. He's
an old dog. He's like, whatever. More animals.
The thing he does get slightly protective about
is his food. And he thinks the kittens are going
to eat his food. So he just went over, inhaled
every ounce of crunchy food he had, and he thinks
the kittens are going to come over near him.
So he freaks out and starts barking. He's like,
oh my god, they're going to eat my food. And
here's the worst part. I can't yell at him. He's
deaf. he doesn't hear me he's like What? That's
great. Why are you getting so angry? It's funny
more than anything else. No, but I'm just saying
on his, because he can't hear you screaming,
so he's like, what? He's looking at me like,
what? And I'm like, dude, I'm yelling at you
for being stupid, alright? Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
We got a fun show today. We got a lot of shit
to get into. Here we go. That's one. Oh, I might
be fighting for the Per Sessions mascot. That's
a cute cat. Say hi, Grim. This is Grim. He's
a ball of, like, I don't want to be here. I named
him because he's got blue eyes, so I named him
after the ever -loving blue -eyed thing, Ben
Grim. That's neat. Like Hazel. He says it's clobbering
time. My cat's name's Hazel because she has hazel
eyes. It's going to be all night. You know, you
could maybe just pick up the food and put it
somewhere else. He doesn't have any more! He's
on the ottoman, which is in front of me. His
food is over this way, behind me. What the hell's
going on? It's like, dude, chill your ass out.
Hey, Keith. We're doing good, man. Hey, Keith.
We're doing great. Oh, my God. The dog. I swear.
Of course, we've got Lee Miller in the house.
Oh, and the boys. I have a menagerie now. Have
you seen this? Have I seen what? This is great.
I got really kick at it. I couldn't stop laughing
when I saw this. All right. All right. Tell me
if you've seen this. Oh, I think it is. Yes.
I have two minutes. So, I have a gift for you.
Dan Owsings with CM Punk in the hotel room. Nice
t -shirt. I followed you to New Jersey for a
summer time. Is that his dog? There's pictures
of his dog. I think it's Larry, yeah. I'm doing
signings, making lots of money. And I bought
a gift for you because you finally main evented
Monday Night Wrestling Mania. So this is a gift
for you. It's a great, very special. Close your
eyes. So, question before we keep this going
on this. Is Danhausen going to get in trouble
for this? Because I thought this was an old video.
No, Danhausen doesn't work for AEW anymore. Oh,
he doesn't? I'm pretty sure Danhausen's done
with AEW. Okay, okay. And I'm pretty sure Danhausen
would have been like, what are they going to
do, fire me anyway? because i i they just stopped
you mentioned something like that in this video
but i wanted to make sure go like like oh dude
he's gonna get in trouble for no no no no i mean
like i said what's the worst that can happen
they're gonna fire him but come on he'll he'd
be like yeah yeah i said at home for the last
like six months yeah no i did see something this
morning I'll have you look at it first, and I'll
have you reveal it to the camera. Good? Put out
your hands. Do I have to keep my eyes shut? Yeah,
for now, and then you can... It's a t -shirt,
so hold it like a t -shirt, not like a weird
robot. I've got my eyes closed. Well, you know,
you should know this. All right, you can open
your eyes and look at it. That is a good gift,
huh? Show the camera. I fucking hate you. I don't
know what I'm supposed to do. It's an extra large
t -shirt because you're an extra large guy with
some good muscle. Show the camera what I got
you. I'll show them because I got two. I got
some. I'll show them. Check it out. Look at that.
Did you notice I'm on there twice? And he's Dan
Housie. Your wonderful, lovely wife. Yeah, yeah.
Bret Hart, your favorite wrestler. And Dan has
it again. Yeah. Your best friend in the world.
Oh, boy. Yeah. What size is this? This is a medium.
It's extra large because I'm so muscular. Yeah,
yeah. Yeah, well, you got a medium. There's another
medium. Good. I planned this months ago. Who's
the third one for? Well, I got it just in case
I got your size wrong. You got my size wrong.
I got it just in case I got your size wrong.
He grabbed two mediums and an extra large. I
really love it so much. I appreciate it. If you
wear it live on television, you're going to win
the world championship. Oh, shit. I don't know.
I feel like you're going to get in trouble if
I wear this on TV. I don't think so. Wow! They'll
never let us show that again! So apparently,
I'm assuming he said something that he wasn't
supposed to and they cut it here. No, no, no.
The whole clip was like, they'll never let us
show that again because it's all like AEW, WWE
crossover. I love the crusty clip at the end,
and that is pure Dan Housen. I'm a millionaire!
Oh, yes. Well, that's Bret Hart. Yeah. All right.
All right, well, that's your gift. Wow. You're
welcome. You can wear it everywhere. I love it.
You can wear it in bed tonight. I love it so
much. I didn't sign anything, so you still owe
me money. See you later. I didn't sign anything,
so you still owe me money. I was waiting for
you to yell at AJ. AJ, I need 20 bucks. Oh, man.
Oh, shit. No, I did see that. That was great.
I love a bunch of different wrestling TikToks,
so I get all sorts of fun stuff. It's like, as
you go through it, you're like, my favorite thing
is like, is this a work or is this a shoot? What
is going on here sometimes? And some of the,
some of the, some of the, the, the fan tick talk
too. I'm just like, really? So, um, Oh, by the
way, hello. Hello to crown of Maine. They're
on tonight. So crown of Maine, how's it going
guys? I was up there two weeks ago and, um, I
did not go through, you know, and when the, when
the crown of Maine, uh, um, King of the Fair.
King of the County. Sorry, I misconstrued. I
did not do that. I lost first round. Oh. Yeah,
I feel like the Toronto Maple Leafs. Samuel Matthews?
No, no. D .L. Santos. Oh. The masked luchador
from Puerto Rico, I believe, won the King of
the County. Why the fuck is the guy from Puerto
Rico King of the County? You can partially blame
Sammy Matthews. Yeah, we'll just say it that
way. Okay. Not the kid from Fort Kent, you know,
originally. That makes 100 % sense. I just work
here. As I often say, I just fucking work here.
Oh, is that Jay Pizzle? That is Jay Pizzle. He's
all pissy. I think he just got home from the
fair. He did the fair show. I literally just
explained what I'm doing, LOL. Yeah, well. I
don't pay attention to you. Sorry. Fucking out
of here. Speaking of the Crown of Maine, I am
on that show for October. Are you? Mm -hmm. How'd
you wrangle that? I got to talk to Vaughn. What
the hell, man? You're on the poster. So. Talk
to Vaughn about what? I'm your tag team partner.
I'm fucking with you. I'm fucking with you. We're
probably not even tagging. Well, maybe we will
tag. Maybe they want to do the rematch. We never
get a rematch for the titles. We get cheated
out of. I'll make sure grandma's there. Interesting
way to look at it. JP just spiked me on the head.
Ouch. I can't say shit. He's done that to me
at least. Well, he's done it to me once. No,
twice, actually. Once he almost broke my neck.
That's on my TikTok. You both. That was a you
too. No, no, no. Screw that. That wasn't me.
That wasn't me. The time you folded like a chair?
No, he went this way with me. Yeah, the time
I folded like a chair. But the fucker's foot
caught. I was like, I almost died. Seriously.
I almost became Donhausen. seriously my neck
went the wrong way the fun part is so i was at
the dojo last night i was talking to the boys
and uh first of all it's really weird to be there
and be like kind of like a senior person at the
dojo now because they all look i gotta go to
the dojo too i'll do like a starry -eyed look
up at you like it's still a nix and i'm just
like um hi i'm just me so like i don't know i
don't think i'm anything i wonder do they did
they look at you like that like no no absolutely
not i'd be funny like why are you here like you're
doing it's more it's more why it's more why you're
here yeah yeah um i was there to assist alexander
lee he was having he was like he couldn't remember
a certain thing and i was like this is what you
taught me do you want me to stop by and just
throw one hand he's like yeah absolutely so stop
by and um Yeah, so we were talking about pilot
drivers last night. Adam Booker yelled at me
because last time JP gave me one, I hooked my
hands under. And that's a way to do it. That's
wrong. When you do it, you put your hands up
top. Yeah, you post up top. Yeah. Well, I hooked
the legs because it looks good, and then I just
never transitioned my hands. It looks good, and
then you break your ass. Hey. one of us is an
unsafe worker it's not me oh shut up oh i'm trying
to find that um the uh the tick tocks uh you
said it was on your tick tock i want to see it
is on my tick tock it's like um i know i've never
shown it before but i know i got like i got like
a lot of pokemon stuff in my tick tock too i
just sometimes get bored i haven't posted anything
on tick tock in a while i should probably get
back on that yeah i haven't done in a while either
Right here, I found it. Welp, I almost died.
Yeah, that one. I know exactly what that is once
I see it. So, guys, this is a what not to do.
This is my official TikTok. I give permission
to use it. You can't blow that up, man. I can't
even see that. I can see it fine. Well, hold
on. Let me go full screen. oh yeah boom watch
his foot catches his foot catches yeah that wasn't
me i blame jpo tizzle gross gross so um if you
want if you want to see it and you're on my tiktok
go to my official tiktok and check it out it's
there right you'll see exactly it was die yes
santos won but only got past uh eric johnson
because sam of samuel matthews told you samuel
i hit the old northern lariat on eric when eric
wasn't looking and santos hit the flippy thing
was it a four was it a it was a frog it was a
frog splash I know, but was it a... Was it like
a triple... No, no. It was a tournament. So there's
like first round. There's four matches first
round. One, two, three, four. Yeah, one, two,
three, four. Four matches first round. And yeah,
four, two, and winner. So yeah, I had to think
for a second. So you're trying to do the math.
I'm like, math is hard. Can you tell me about
it? I like the comas. Bro, I'm with the 4K. I'm
just saying. Dude, I am the ranking of schools.
I think there's 250. I think we're 243. Ouch.
I don't want to hear it. I figured about this.
This must be Mike. Santos faked injury. Ref not
looking. Pull the Seth Rollins shit right there.
Pull the Samuel Matthews. Oh yeah, Sammy Matthews
did it too. I completely forgot about that. They
weren't some tricks from each other, the jerks.
Okay, I wanted to do a clip a week, but JP isn't
here, so we'll do the lesser of the evils. We'll
talk about stuff. We'll do Killing Cross at the
end because I want to get your guys' opinion
on both of that. Of course, I want all of us
here when we talk about DLC. Here's the worst
part. every time I hear Killer Cross, my brain
automatically, I don't know why, kicks Aleister
Black's music into my brain because his NXT music
sounded similar. I'm just sitting there going
like, I'm like, no, that's Aleister. Did you
see that WWE is planning a PLE on the same day
as AEW All Out? yeah that's called that's called
the counter booking and i'm not surprised um
wwe's like so right now wwe has all the power
behind it and they it's kind of like so this
is kind of weird all right this is back when
wcw and wwe were doing stuff at the same time
right wwe was weirdly enough they were still
a million dollar multi -million dollar company
but um you know they were like okay cool we're
going to compete with WCW, who is a multi -billion
dollar company because they had AOL Time Warner
behind it, or they had Time Warner behind it.
Time Warner, yeah. But still, you had a lot of
money behind them, and it's the same thing. Now
we're just reversing the roles. AEW is kind of
like WWE back in the day, where WWE is like WCW.
So it's a lot of money behind it and stuff. So
it's just going like, yo, basically, screw you.
I hear that. WWE's going to blow AEW out of the
water. Well, I haven't been paying attention
to AEW, so I don't know exactly how good they're
doing. At one point, I just realized, okay, it's
going to be the same shit every week that I'm
going to get irritated about. I'm going to stop
watching. We're going to take 18 Poison Ranas
and no one's going to sell one of them. Right.
And then I'm going to win with a roll -up. So
I don't know how... AEW has been lately. I don't
know what their ratings are or whatever. You're
going to go low, aren't you? Yeah, probably.
It's been a while since we've done the next report.
But how WWE, even though they haven't done any
what? I'm just looking. They didn't do too bad.
They had 690 ,000, which is basically... They've
been sitting right around 700 ,000 for a while.
They've kind of leveled out, but at least they're
staying relatively constant. I mean, yeah. They're
staying between 600 ,000 and 800 ,000. I've seen...
Oh, sorry. I was just pulling that up for...
I've seen handfuls of clips. I've never actually
watched anything full. I have not. I mean, I
might have. It's Juggalo Championship Wrestling.
I have seen clips. So anyways, WWE, we have John
Cena expected to face Brock Lesnar at the main
event, which that's... I have loads of feelings
about Brock Lesnar, and none of them are really
all that good, so I won't say a lot. I mean,
again, like we said before, it is allegations.
I understand that. However, you know... usually
when people have allegations they still stay
away yeah until they figure out hey they're no
longer allegations um but i mean i mean there's
um you know i won't say names locally there's
allegations and they came out to be pretty freaking
true i say locally locally as in me yep yeah
so i'm just saying maybe maybe there's some truth
behind the matter I don't know. I'm not a lawyer.
I'm not a cop. I don't do anything with the law.
But I'm just saying, if there's rumors that are
persistent, they might actually end up being
true in some way, shape, or form. Yeah, anything
that's that severe, I honestly think a company
would be like, hey, we're putting him aside.
We're not saying that he did it. Didn't do it.
We're not saying that he did do it. Didn't do
it. We're not saying he did do it. However, until
this gets sorted out, He's staying away. Yeah,
it's like maybe just be like, you know, this
guy can be over here and just not be in the middle
of anything. Oh, cool. That's kind of neat. Sorry,
I was about to like retweet that we're live and
I just found out that Ace Austin signed with
AEW. Oh, no shit. Is he actually going to be
used? I don't get excited with people getting
signed anymore. You get excited about somebody
getting signed and you see them on TV being that
week that they got signed and then you never
see them again. TNA was really... I'm going to
pull back the curtain. Everyone knows this. TNA
was good for this for a while. Back when it was
Dixie in charge. Oh my god. They'd flip memes
and it drove me nuts. Say John Cena ended up
in TNA. somehow. A fucking comet hits the earth.
Things end. John Cena's in TNA. Be like, why
is John Cena in the Impact Zone? And then you
see him like three times and you never see him
again. AEW does the same thing. They're like,
why is... Oh my god, it's Jimmy Baba Ganoush.
What is he doing here? Their roster is huge and
yet we see the same people every single week.
Here's the thing. If you're going to have a roster
that big, you have three shows. Put a roster
on each show, and that is their show. Then have
separate titles, like the TNT and TBS titles.
You wouldn't be defended on any other show except
for the show that those channels are on. So the
TBS title would be Collision, I think. I think
Collision, yeah. So yeah, there you go. The TBS
title is the main title for Collision. The tag
titles can go across. The TV title can go wherever
because it's a TV title. But make it like this
is our main title for this show. Plain and simple.
And then take your fucking Saturday show. I've
said this from the beginning. And make it goddamn
ROH. This is ROH. This is their time slot. Ring
of Honor. And let someone else fucking book it.
Exactly. I can't really say WWE hasn't fucked
up with shit because obviously I'm really irritated
with the John Cena stuff. We pushed his heel
turn for six plus months and now... Yeah, but
now we're pretending it never even fucking happened.
It just irritates me. They could have 100 % kept
the heel until after SummerSlam. The problem
they were having is the fans didn't want to boo
Cena. They were booing him, kind of. But they
didn't really want to, boom. It's like when they
turned Sting heel back in WCW. Sting was basically
like, yeah, I'll be a heel, but I'm not going
to be a heel to the kids. And then Sting came
out, and it's fucking Sting. They're like, yeah,
Sting! Even in TNA when he was a heel with the
main event mafia, they're still cheering him.
It's Sting. He's like pretty much an eternal
baby face. Well, with Cena, though, Cena, it
was a bad guy, boo. they were booing him because
they were so happy that he was a bad guy yeah
i mean he was so happy that he was a bad guy
yeah it was it was literally with cena it was
like literally like they were going to turn him
back face no matter what the crowd was it it's
like when he was originally healed he was so
damn cool as the doctor thugonomics right the
crowd turned him and then we got you know 15
years super cena but that's a different story
yeah I've actually always liked Cena, so I can't
say him a lot. No, I don't mind Cena either.
I just, I really wish, like, they fucked up with
The Rock at WrestleMania. The Rock inserting
himself. I think that Cena should have turned
heel at WrestleMania if The Rock wasn't going
to be involved. It would have been way bigger.
And then I think they should have turned him
back baby at the end of SummerSlam. Be like,
you bested me, you know, shake hands. Yeah. Cena
sees him off, and as Cena's about to leave, then
hit Brock Lesnar's music. Yo, I will fully be
honest. I'm sitting here watching SummerSlam,
and I watched Night 1 actually just after the
fair matches. So I'm sitting there at Night 1,
and I'm up in my parents' place. We're watching
it. I'm kind of like, oh, okay. Night 1 was so
better than Night 2. And the thing is, Night
2 was all hardcore matches. Night 2 was so bad.
Is this hardcore matchup the hardcore matchup
the hardcore matchup? Yeah, it's a hat on a hat.
It's basically like Corden says, like, it's a
hat on a hat, kid. Anyway, I'm sitting there
watching it, and I'm like, oh, okay. I'm like,
oh, shit. Cody went over. All right. I'm like,
yeah, cool. I'm like, that doesn't make a whole
lot of sense, but okay. I mean, I'm a big Cody
fan, so I'll pop for it. And then Cena gets up,
and the crowd's like, all of a sudden, coming
up, coming up, coming up. And I'll show it. I'm
laughing about it in a second. And then. rocks
music kits and i was like god damn it and like
you can ask sam next time you see her i audibly
out loud looked at her went god damn it and my
my uh we were home so like no my parents weren't
here but like it was it's just one of those moments
i was like seriously and i was like i'm done
click sorry yeah this is what i was reading the
chat this is what i started like god damn it
god damn it don't want to find this there is
Storm went for a second rope closing, slipped,
and head -butted me in the nuts. I was literally
talking. That's why I laughed in the middle of
that sentence, I'm saying. Because I actually
saw Lee post that, and I turned and looked over,
and I laughed, and I was like, oh, Jesus Christ.
To be fair, to be 100 % fair, and I'm going to
play devil's advocate, Larry never tightens the
ropes for fair shows. They're not tight. So,
like, my entrance, I go up to the top rope, and
I hop off the top into the ring, right? Dude,
I've had a couple times where I get up there
and I get to the second rope and I'm just like,
I'm just going to get down and go through the
ropes. Yeah, exactly. It's safer that way. Especially
how his ropes, I don't like how low they are.
I don't mind them low. It's literally like if
they're loose, it's terrifying. His ropes when
they're loose are just scary. I have to go through
the second. of how low his ropes are. Because
I can't roll underneath the first rope. Ah, yeah,
yeah. I get what you're saying. I get stuck in
those ropes more than once. Good rolling. All
the time. I was trying to see if maybe AEW had
one match or something like that. Because I know
they're speculating Cena versus Brock for that
PLE. No, because there's nothing for AEW. WWE
just went, okay, we're going to have a PLE that
night. Cool. Brock versus Cena. Dude, that's
a marquee match. We already know that's a marquee
match. That's going to pull people over to WWE.
They're going to want to watch Brock and Cena.
It's going to be whatever it is. AEW should come
out and be like, all right, cool. I don't know
what night it is, but I know Edge and Christian
are taking on someone. You reformed Edge and
Christian after 24 years. That's a big freaking
deal. and literally i got one pop -up on my facebook
feed that's the only reason i knew that see i
didn't know you said something that should be
everywhere like literally everywhere so see i
really this is this is why i wish kind of uh
aw still had that relationship with tna somewhat
because i'd love to see you know the hardys and
through uh Dudley boys and edging Christian for
one last time. Yeah. Yeah. Did you get a picture
of the hearties at the end of vacation? Oh, of
course I did. Okay. Okay. Of course. I think
we, I think we all did. Yeah. Of course. All
of us were little kids again for five minutes.
Seriously. All of us. I'm just glad somebody
didn't ruin it. That's it. That was what I was
worried about. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody was going
to be so, so freaking fan boy that they wouldn't
want anything to do with us. I actually didn't
do it. I didn't either until everybody started
standing around like okay I guess I guess everyone
else is doing it so my thing is I did I have
a hard time I've met a lot of celebrities I always
have a hard time talking to them and like really
like um like really getting like to like you
know I feel like I'm bothering them because they're
just human beings they're trying to live their
lives and especially like guys like that they
just work the match and you know and they have
a show the next day they have a show the next
day they have to get going swipe right is no
joke they're a good tag team right you know and
i i was like man i don't want to bother him and
scratch is standing next to me and he's like
dude if you don't go take that photo i'm going
to kick you go take the photo they're like fine
so i walked over and i got it taken and matt
hardy retweeted it actually so that was pretty
cool yeah that's really cool no no they're really
nice we might as well talk about it since uh
even though jp isn't here he hopefully he'll
be jumping in soon yeah um levi wasn't there
and he's doing levi stuff anyway so Well, Levi
was there. Oh, yeah. We gave Levi a lot of shit
about not being there. He can make it to freaking,
you know. Come up for a Ren Faire, but he can't
come hang out with us. Asshole. And hang out
for friends for birthday parties and birthdays
and shit. Can't come and fucking. Can't hit up
the chat and be like, yo, boys, I'm in Portland.
You want to hang out? We would have been like,
hell yeah, man. We'll go grab a beer. Come on.
Right. Exactly. What for the next Gino show?
I'll go to Gino's. Throw each other around. So
we left early. Was it 8 a .m.? I think it was.
No, I didn't leave at 8 a .m. I think we left
at 8. We had to be there for 1, right? No, 11.
Yeah, we did have to be there. Technically 10
.30. We did not make 10 .30. I got there in,
like, 11 .05, I think it was, and, like, the
gates are still open. Yeah. But, um, yeah, no,
I left, yeah, probably about 8 -ish was actually
that, but it doesn't make sense, so. So, we left,
like, around, like, 8 .30, me and JP, we were
in the car, a little asshole got himself McDonald's
and didn't give me shit, so, like, you're gonna
have to stop for me now, you know that, right?
Like, we're gonna stop and get something to eat.
We go and grab McDonald's. We get McDonald's
and I'm like, we got to stop. I got to get money
out of the ATM and I got to get some energy drinks
because I'm fucking dying right now because I
didn't sleep at all the day before. Go in, grabbing
my shit. This kid just fucking gets sick right
in the center of the gas station. I'm like, cool.
That's awesome. I'm not hungry anymore. Did you
throw the kid into it to wipe it up? No, thankfully
the mother was actually being a parent and felt
really bad for the child and tried to help the
child out. It's just nice. You don't really see
that anymore nowadays. A lot of parents don't
really want to be parents. I'm not getting into
this debate. I have no kids. I have seven animals
now, but I have no kids. You wouldn't imagine
when my wife was doing babysitting how many parents
did not give a shit about their kids. Oh, no,
no. I know. Trust me. There's a reason I say
I don't want to get in the argument, though,
because I don't need parents coming after me.
I'll get a dick, motherfucker. I'll get all of
them. I don't care. Be a better parent. Fuck
you. Anyways. And we're canceled. Anyways, so
we get our shit. I get my shit. We leave. we
get into uh lewiston uh thankfully chaotic was
already there setting up everything and they
had a yeah we walked i walked in i was like all
right cool i'm gonna help set up the ring i walk
in the ring is 94 done already i'm like well
they had their own crew which was nice yeah i
was like all right cool i'll i'll do the ring
skirts like i normally do i turn around milo's
already done the ring skirt so i was like uh
all right i'm like It's like that kid from TikTok.
Why the fuck am I even here? Exactly. I was there
to help. I don't know if Rainey was expecting
help. 60 kids? There was a ton of us. There was
a ton of us. Not only Lindelof, it was chaotic
too. And probably a couple other schools. Right,
there was a bunch of people there. i want to
say something i'll get into in a minute so um
we got everything all set it up and we're all
good i'm just trying to figure out what the fuck
can do because everything's basically set up
so i'm like all right i'll see what i can do
here and there at the door because of i think
last year there was some issues last year with
people coming in and bringing family and shit
like that that weren't approved you know it was
a problem so this year yeah i remember that randy
made sure that you needed to be on the list in
order to enter the building we're talking like
chris jericho level yeah the funny thing is i
was i wasn't on the list uh i was like i'm like
i have a table why why am i not Like, please
don't kick me out. You probably just forgot.
Like, honestly, for us, it was more than likely
a formality. Like, I had their whole processional
career. Okay, cool. I bring that up because somebody
showed up who thought they could just walk in
the building. Walks in the building. Not stopped
by Storm, which I thought was kind of... I thought
he tried to stop him. Come to find out, Storm
just let him walk in. And Randy looks at him
and goes, get the fuck out. What are you doing?
He's like, no, get out. That made my day. Best
part, he was out back. He's like, Andy, where
do I go to get in if I bought a ticket? I'm like,
around front. So he bought a ticket and thought
he could just go in the building early. I think
he bought one for his kids and his dad or something.
And then he's like, well, you know, look, I get
it. You're one of the boys, but. Is he really?
He's one of the boys. He's a worker. When's the
last time he did a match? I think I worked him,
actually. Oh, that's true. He did a fair match.
Okay, I take that back. Oh, shit. I laughed so
hard when I found that out. It was so fucking
funny. But yeah, so... I was trying to set up
the table. We got the table all set up. Got everything
situated. I know next year we definitely need
to have merch. Yeah. I just bought a t -shirt
press, actually. That'll be cool. I have one
too, but it's too small. Mine's actually like...
16x16? I think 16x16. Okay, perfect. I got a
14x16, I think. since it's 14 by 16, it's not
the full size shirt. So to try to position everything
for it to fit is a pain in the fucking ass. I
don't know. It's out of the car. I don't know
how big it is. I'll have to go get it. Well,
if you get a 16 by 16, it's perfect because that's
the shirt size. You just lay it right there and
you just line it up and it's perfect. Actually,
I think mine's a 12 by 14, which is even worse.
This thing's a good size. I picked it up. It
doesn't weigh a ton, but it was nice. I also
got one of the things that makes cups. so oh
nice i want to get that too but yeah definitely
we need to do some merch for next year um and
like have some stuff signed i did i did if you
guys can't see i did get all the people who have
been on the podcast to sign uh we're just missing
smiley and and uh rain carver jr which i wasn't
going to bother him for the show with that yeah
no he was he was definitely uh definitely straight
out there was a few times over the chat just
like why does this not be done go do this let's
go what the hell that's what i was worried about
because i was like i am at a table like i i hope
he doesn't expect me to i i'll be honest be out
there we weren't supposed to like i know you
and me and jp were kind of just there to be there
um I ended up just getting in the mix of things
because I'm just helpful. So I walked to people
like, can you tell me where to go? And so the
Coliseum, it got set up kind of weird. I guess
the Coliseum set it up, not us. So I don't know
what happened. Don't yell at me if you're one
of the folks at the show. That's right. The seating
was a little wonky. It was wonky, yes. It was
wonky. So I did my best. And if I sat you guys.
i did my best i i i hope you know that but it
was like you know so i literally ended up down
on the floor for before the show for an hour
and a half sitting people because i'm like uh
yeah see that way let's do that literally we
were in the middle of the podcast you're like
you're like motherfucker and you just you just
yeah and uh i had to run off on jp like three
or four times when we're doing odd uh the um
uh tiktok live too just like i things need to
get done and right you know i like the new kids
at the dojo and stuff but not all of them are
you know i it's not my first yeah they don't
they might have been in their first show they
don't know exactly what to do it's not my first
rodeo if i see this needs to get done i and a
lot of times too people some folks know who i
am so i have weirdly enough an easier time slipping
through the crowd because like oh dylan's just
doing something for randy you know i i have i've
had that happen Where people look at me and they
see it's me and I just kind of give the shishy
thing and they just kind of stop paying attention
for five minutes. Right, exactly. But before
the show, before everybody started coming and
shit, I love it how I went out for a smoke break.
People walked out that don't smoke for a smoke
break waiting for the hardies to show up. I kind
of felt bad because they had Tommy Dreamer. and
fucking um dango yeah and uh is it brian right
is his name brian myers yep brian myers yeah
show up eddie edwards too eddie edwards nobody
nobody nobody nobody was like I can't wait for
them to see. They're all focused on the Hardys.
This is going to sound... I think when it comes
to certain folks, we've met... Dango's a local
guy. Dango's a dojo guy, basically. We've met
Dango all the time. Yeah, we've met... Well,
not all the time, but we've met Dango. Dango
is in the dojo all the time. Yeah, we've met
Tommy before. Tommy's a cool dude. I still have
the hardest time talking to him because I'm still
starstruck by Tommy. So did JP. Get him going.
It's so funny. You know, Eddie and Brian, like
I, I was polite, said hi to and stuff. And it's
just something about the Hardys. That's just
for like, for me, dude, I'm in my forties and
seeing the Hardys brought me back to me being
12, you know, exactly. We're all outside and
a guy shows up in full face paint. Oh, full hearted
gear. Yeah. Full hearted gear. Yeah. Matt's freaking
out. He's like, oh my god, the Hardy showed up.
Really? No shit? On full gimmick? It didn't cross
my mind that wouldn't have happened because Jeff's
done it. I've heard him actually do that before.
Dan Housing showed up at Limitless the last time
he was there in full gimmick. He was in full
gimmick. He walked out. What's that? I wonder
if he had Dan Housen on the show. I've already
asked. He hasn't responded. Yeah, I've already
messaged him about it. That'd be cool. I messaged
him and I messaged Mr. Anderson and they haven't
reached back out. Mr. Anderson is actually supposed
to be on the pod. Yeah, yeah. I think the time
has came and go. We had shit going on and I really
didn't want to bother him because he's, again,
another big star that you don't really want to
bother. The coolest dude though. Seriously. He
watched me and I worked Lucha Kid. We did a six
minute mock match. We actually screwed up a spot.
I was supposed to hit Lucha with a clothesline
and he was in the middle of the ring. As I came
back, I was like, that's not going to be a clothesline.
Oh, Vader. I hit him with the Vader thing. Ken
looked at me and was like, is that supposed to
be a clothesline? I'm like, yeah. He's like,
good recovery. Cool. Thank you. I like Mr. Anderson.
He's pretty cool. Pretty good chat. And it was
really hard not trying to be a marker on him.
But yeah. So Matt's fanboying for the hardy showing
up. Oh my God. He's like, he's like, he's like,
he looks at all of us. He goes, he looks at all
of us. He goes, I'm getting the fucking door.
Nobody's touching the door. I'm getting the door.
Okay. Okay. Whatever. I'm like, and everybody's
freaking out. And I'm like, I mean, me and Nick's
are like, guys, chill the fuck out. You're like,
you're going to, you're going to make them want,
not want anything to do with us. Chill out everybody.
So finally, John Alba pulls in with the Hardee's.
They come in, you know, Hardy's super nice. Shaking
everybody's hands, like saying, hi, how we're
doing. You know, it was great. We talked to John
a little bit. It was great. um by the way shout
out to john albert one of the one of the realest
people like yeah he walks up and talks to you
like he's known you forever ever yes like he
like i i've met i've met john like three times
and john still is like andy how you doing man
like you know i'm just like hey john you know
i'm i don't know if jp has asked him yet but
i'm trying to get him on the pod that would be
cool just because i want we i've never heard
of that that other side of the of the uh we actually
talked a little bit speaking of pods we talked
a little bit about um because he ran eric bischoff's
pod uh really i didn't know that i don't know
if it's 83 weeks later or if it's a different
one but it was one of his the podcast eric bischoff
did like how was that and he's like i don't want
to talk about it oh we're gonna make him talk
about if he ever comes on the pod oh hell yeah
i i just want to know that side of the industry
because he's he does uh sports writing and you
know yeah he's running the pod for matt And he's
been the manager for the, uh, the, was it prestigious?
Was it called? Yeah. Procedures. It was Mac and
Mac. I'm chanting the RG. Yeah. And, uh, I just
want to get that side. Cause we haven't got that
side yet. And I want to ask Harry, but Harry,
Harry's so fucking busy. Harry's got like three
seconds of time, free time a day. I'm still surprised.
He does limitless shows. And I'm pretty sure
he sleeps. Does he sleep? I, I think you've been
doing those three seconds of free time. That's
his sleep time. He's like, okay, I'm up. Yeah,
but he's so busy. I was talking to him. Was it
him or Randy? Maybe it was him. I can't remember.
Maybe Randy brought it up last show. I can't
remember, but he has so many projects going on.
He's doing photos for this and this with big
companies and shit like that. Holy shit. He's
he's he's just go go go and still make somehow
makes time for limitless shows here and there.
It's awesome But we got all set it up. We were
ready to go fans start coming in for the meet
-and -greet. Oh My god, it was like 150 fans.
We have seen JP is dying next to me and I'm like,
ah, this is gonna be funny and I hit play And
then JP just hears, step into the ring. It's
time for the show. He's like, fuck. Fuck. Like,
why? The cool part about doing that, though,
is we proved we can go live on location. So that's
cool. That was good. The only thing that I would
do for next time, and it's $200, $250 mics. portable
mics there's yeah i can get four of them for
i think 250 yeah that'd be too bad get those
ones we see in the tiktok shop that yeah to hook
your collar yeah once i had the one for the tiktok
shop and they're shit um i want to get like actual
like good ones um that people have been used
for actually like going around doing are you
melting or something because you keep getting
lower seriously oh dude i'm i'm enjoying that
i uh i actually have a uh computer chair That's
not fucking, you know, that's not going to make
me fall on my face. I have a couch. I've had
like broken computer chair after broken computer
chair. I finally got one that's for fat people.
And I have a bum right knee right now. I don't
know what the hell I did, but my right knee is
messed up right now. Ben made fun of me. He's
like, you didn't stretch. And I was like, I did
a little bit. But the thing is, I didn't do anything
that would have messed my knee up. The only thing
I can think I did is when I did the backwards
elimination. I might have whacked it or something
on the way down. Your knees just like, fuck this.
I woke up this morning, I took a step, I was
like, Jesus Christ, what the hell? That's new.
There's only been one time where I've actually
was scared when wrestling. And I took a bump
and I hadn't bumped in a while. And it was, I
thought I was flat and I got tinglys. Like electricity.
That's not good. When we took on Monty and Kid
and Sam and Lee and I hit the floor headfirst.
It was the same way. I do my fingers instant
tingled and my toes. That's how hard I hit. And
I laid there. And of course... Lee didn't hear
me, so I'm not yelling at Lee about this at all.
He came over to grab me and I was like, dude,
I tried to go, dude, give me a second. I was
finger touching real quick just to make sure
everything worked. The problem is we had to catch
Kid right there. That was the next thing. I'm
like, okay, everything works. Of course, I knocked
myself goofy. I was half a step off for the rest
of the damn match. Thank God I saw you too. Yeah,
I thought I paralyzed myself for a minute. I
saw you eat shit and I'm in that direction. I'm
like, whoop, and I gave myself an extra step
to make sure I cleared you and not do my normal
tumble over the top rope. I don't know how the
hell I missed the ring apron. That's what still
befuddles me. I've done that elimination. I can't
tell you. I might have slipped. I swear my hand
hit, but it felt like I just missed the ring
apron completely. I can't remember if your hand
slipped or your hand. Yeah, your hand just because
we have the tape somewhere. I'm going to rewatch
it. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, go ahead. Finish. I
don't know. I was just like, but yeah, I forgot
where I was going. So go. I think that was the
end of my thought. We went live. We did people
come in. We're asking people who they thought
was going to win. Honestly, surprised. Not surprised
that Aaron won, but I'm surprised who was in
the finals. Gabby was a big... A lot of people
were voting for Gabby. They wanted to see Gabby
win it. Aaron was actually pretty up there for
votes. The final four being AG, Agro, Aaron,
and Gabby was a little bit of a surprise. I thought
Conan Lakin was going. I really did. He was my
pick. So, you know, and I thought I didn't think
I knew Agra was probably going to somehow hook
or crooked his way in. He's got Haru out there
and there's always, they always have a plan B,
C, D, E, and F, you know? And then just, you
know, beyond that, I was just kind of like, it
was fun though. Holy crap. But spoilers, I guess,
if you haven't seen it yet, but can we spoil
it? it's been a week it's been a week spoilers
huge shout out to aaron rourke for uh for taking
it uh well deserved well well deserved he was
he's been the bridesmaid and not the bride on
multiple occasions and it was really really cool
to see him finally take it you know 100 now we'll
get back to the podcast talk in just a minute
however i want to bring this up since you brought
this up I was waiting for some bullshit, and
then I was hoping that Amber's music was going
to hit. That would be cool. Amber was going to
come back. I'll be honest. Amber's come to training
a few times. I've been up at training with her.
Has she been training, or has she just been saying
hi? No, she's been actually in the ring training
with us. Trust me. She kicked me in the back,
that old... kick that she used to do uh off a
pin drill and caught me and i was like yep i
remember that well it was full force too and
uh then she laughed i was like awesome but um
i know she's been training but i don't know i
can't speak for her i you know i'm not in her
brain i don't know what she's doing um i but
i don't know if she ever wants to come back really
so if she does awesome more power to her and
i'll be rooting her on but beyond that i i don't
know i'm just yeah it's for me it's just i'm
such a fan and you know she was my first basically
one of my first trainers yeah so just wanting
to see that moment because i want to be excited
for her and be like hey she's back but all at
the same time too if she never wants to come
back so be it i mean the storyline's there But
that's what I'm saying. I'm just making myself
excited for the fantasy booking. Because Tammy
Matthews was next to me. I'm like, do you want
to be crazy right now? He goes, what? I'm like,
what if Amber was here? He goes, I didn't even
think of that. I didn't know she was there. Yeah,
she was there. I didn't know she was there. I'm
like, what if Amber's coming back tonight? but
it didn't happen i was still waiting for him
like if you see a rough bump you know she's gonna
be she's back yeah um um yeah like i said i don't
know i don't know what's gonna and what's gonna
happen with that it'd be cool as hell like the
storyline is there it's a storyline that is just
it's it's written on right right um but we'll
see what happens so let's see what happens um
Before we get into the podcast, let's take care
of some of these comments that are right here.
We got a bunch of them in here. We got Lee Miller.
Am I the only one who didn't get a photo with
him? Yes, you freaking idiot. How did you not
get a photo with him? How? I don't think Storm
got one either, actually. I think he was doing
stuff. There was a little group of us waiting
for a photo. They were so cool about it. They
were cool about it. Like I said, they had a show.
They had a show the next day. They took their
own time. They said, we'll leave in a minute.
And they got photos with us. That was fucking
awesome. Such great guys. Such awesome guys.
They had their own crew. Plus ours. Dude, the
ring went up and down within 10 minutes. I've
never seen a ring go down. Once the show was
over, we got our photos. JP's like, we're leaving.
I'm like, okay. I hope Bray's not going to be
mad that we're leaving, but okay. You're my ride.
I'm blaming you. He's pissed. I took the pipe
and drape down and then I went to help with the
ring. I turned around and it was gone. I was
like, oh. randy you good if i go he's like yeah
go i was like all right see ya well randy was
in the locker room so i couldn't ask him like
i'm like i'm not gonna fucking bother people
in the locker room yeah i'm not i'm not doing
that yeah i hope he's good i literally irish
goodbye to everyone i was like i turned around
and went bye i just yelled bye real loud and
i walked out the back door that's how i say goodbye
folks so if i'm ever on a show with y 'all and
i literally turn around yell goodbye um it's
because I've already said hi to everyone. I usually
say hi and shake hands with everyone that comes
in. But when I'm ready to go, I'm ready to fucking
go and I leave. Especially when we're main. Yeah,
yeah. When we're main, it's like, because at
that point, what are we doing? Between 15 and
25 minute match? Yeah. And I'm like, okay, I'm
ready to go. See you later. Bye, people. Yeah,
once I'm in street clothes again, don't bother
me. I joke. If you want, like... Grab a picture
of me or say hi and stuff. I'm 95 % of the time
more impersonable. I've had shows where I haven't
had the best match, and I'm a little grumpy.
I will fully admit that. But 95 % of the time,
if you want to come up, say, hey, Dylan, how
you doing? Can I get a photo? Sure, not a problem.
I'm very much, I love when folks come up to me,
talk to me, and say hi, shake hands, and dude,
I loved your match, you know, stuff like that.
Love it. 100%. Always come on up. Matthews against
Santo at Pathway. Sure. Your thoughts, Lee Miller?
Can we burn the pathway down? Seriously. Yeah,
exactly. I still haven't had my match. I kind
of want to get with Turner and see if I can do
that. Hey, can you do me a favor? I had my baby
and I had to cancel that match. That match is
still there. We still have bad blood that we
need to take care of. especially since you guys
lost because i wasn't there i mean that's why
i'm blaming because i wasn't there but then again
mpw is still technically there isn't it are they
still running yeah no mpw is running a show coming
up next month i think i don't remember something
like that i don't know i don't know maybe we'll
get with neil and say hey can we do just to a
101 yeah um Street fight. I haven't been hit
up for anything about that show yet, so I just
work here. I'm going to say no. Seating is wonky.
December 6th is the MPW show? Damn, okay. Lee
Miller just hit it up. MPW is December 6th. Yeah,
that's a hot minute away. That's pretty far.
Seating is wonky. Oh, because they had to cancel
it because the show, they were going to do Fairfield,
right? Or something like that, and they had to
cancel it because it was double booked. Yeah,
something stupid like that. Yeah, I remember
that. Seeing it was wonky and kept getting a
dude in the boot. That poor guy. We kept dragging
him hither there because he had like four hats
on that night. And we kept grabbing him like,
yo, we need help with this. And he's like, ah.
I felt bad for that guy. He had a moment that
night. It was like, welcome to working a live
wrestling show, bud. I hate the pathway. I agree.
100%. That is Mike Turner's young son, Dylan.
Dylan, I am 100 % with you, son. Wasn't there
a fan that almost got kicked out of VLC because
they were being rowdy? Something like that. I
don't know the logistics behind it, but I think
a police officer talked to him and said, calm
the F down or I'm going to drag you out of here.
There's something about the sign, right? Or something
like that. No, I don't think it was that one.
Are you talking about the has hater signs ever
flown around? Yeah, I think so. I don't think
it was that. I think it was something else. I
don't remember. I don't know. I didn't get the
logistics of it. So I heard third hand. Yeah,
I don't know. That's what I heard. MBW owner
booked to wrestle MEW show. No, not MEW. It's
actually Ring Wars. He's working the Ring Wars
show. it's Casanova versus Andrews for the whatever
belt that is another one I have to beat up Casanova
for and then we got this one they're going to
state why they gonna be statewide soon hate them
all you want lol yeah you know what else is statewide
that we freaking hate asian tree beetles all
right and that's just what they are that's their
pest they're asian tree beetles they get into
our pine trees they kill our pine trees basically
they're getting into our wrestling and killing
our wrestling that's all the pathway is they're
asian pine they're asian pine beetles y 'all
don't know what the hell that is educate yourselves
so back back to voc so we're getting it all done
we're doing the podcast and it's hilarious We're
just doing this podcast, having a good time,
just shooting the shit. Behind us is Tommy Dreamer.
Behind us is Dango and Brian. Top guys that are
just sitting behind us and we're just shooting
the shit. Dango actually came over, shouted out
the podcast, which was fucking awesome. Dango's
a stand -up dude. A lot of them hate him. He's
pretty stand -up. Walked over and shoot a fucking
promo against Desmond Cole. That's cool. That
was really cool. I missed that, unfortunately.
Do you want to see it? Sure. Pull it right up
really quick. Do you want to do some more chats?
There's a few more chats there if you want to
read them. Dylan, it's booked for the show on
my wedding. Oh, okay. That's that show. Got you,
Lee. Lee Miller has a wedding coming up. Wasn't
there a show that somebody said that we're asking
us to be on? I have no fucking clue what you're
talking about, dude. That was Justin or Jared
or Keith. Homeboy at the beginning. It was his
show. I love the podcast when the doors opened
at VLC. Thank you. Shock one official. I'm assuming
you're Mike. Is that correct? Correct me if I'm
wrong. But yeah, I think that's Mike. I hope
so. Anyway, so all this reminds me of I'm skipping
through. There was one time that a fan came up
and started talking and me and Matt looked at
each other and Matt just slowly muted the mic.
We were worried that we were going to get taken
down for some of the things that he was saying.
Yeah, it's not good. I'm trying to find Channing.
I think it was towards the end, wasn't it? Yeah,
I kind of skimmed through it yesterday or a couple
days ago looking just for the heck of it. Yeah,
I'm going to do a highlights. I was working on
it. But we got... Oh, shock. I apologize. I thought
that was Mike. Oh, well. We got this right here.
This is VLC, the podcast. Let's see. Shannon
came over. How's it going? What podcast? First
session. I did the first session. All right.
Let me tell you something. I'm on a completely
different level. I'm going to expose him. I'm
going to show him why. which is the most opportunity.
And Tony Atlas, Tony Atlas is going to fight
the wrath of Sidney Bacabella with the courage.
Brian Myers turned around and goes, yeah, yeah.
In a battle of titans. A battle of those best
things. That one night is not enough. They're
bringing this around the hall. They're bringing
this to Chicago. They're bringing this to Florida.
They're bringing this to New York. They're bringing
this right into there. For Bird. For Vince. to
Mexico, Puerto Rico, all the way around the globe.
Thank you, guys. I love those two. That was awesome.
He's one of those guys. Why hasn't he been signed
yet? Why hasn't he been signed yet? Also, he
has always been one of those guys that every
show I've worked at, because I've actually worked
a lot of shows with Channing on it. And he always
finds a moment to come up and say hi to me and
shake my hand. And that's why I've always liked
Channing. Yeah. And still my favorite Channing
story is like, you guys went 10 minutes over.
That wasn't our fault. Yes. I remember that.
He got so mad that we went over. And we were
like, nobody told us it was music to music. Yeah.
We thought it was bell to bell. Yeah. and they
cut a five, six -minute promo that they were
fucking up because they were supposed to cut
it like three or four minutes earlier, but for
some reason, either A, didn't get the cue to
cut it, or B, couldn't fucking cut it. I love
Dandeman. It was a Dandeman promo, and he was
going. They didn't cut it, but he kept just going.
I was like, wow, they hate him right now. And
then our music hit. It was great. And we get
to wrestle at Fenway. So that was great. Oh,
yeah. That was great. First match, too. First
match of the night. Yeah. Yeah. So I get to sit
back, relax, watch the rest of the show. I get
to take pictures with two of the World Series
trophies. I got to hang out at the bathroom.
Why'd you hang out at the bathroom? Because I
had the shits. Oh, that's great. Yeah, that's
right. I didn't need to remember that. Thanks.
He kept on asking me. He asked me, do you want
to jump in the big boys battle royal? I'm like,
no, I don't. I can't leave this bathroom right
now. The worst part is Levi and I didn't know
we could have went out with the titles. We're
glad we didn't because those belts are garbage.
I actually saw those not long ago and I was like,
what did you do to these? I spent so much time.
I've forgotten that company's ever existed. It
is what it is. That's what I'm saying. They want
to keep fucking up and wasting money and not
paying their talent. They can go and keep on
doing that. Different company. We're thinking
two different companies that have done the same
thing. One has a number in their title. I don't
understand now. Anyways, it's a cool thing. I
don't know if Scotty was there. Was Scotty there,
or was he just pulled this picture? I think he
just pulled the picture. To be fair, if he was
home... Well, no, he lives in Florida now. But,
I mean, he's from Auburn. So, he lives in the
Auburn area. So, Scotty Tuhati tweeted this out.
I said, when I started out at Professional Wrestling
in Maine in 1989, this wasn't... There wasn't
an independent wrestling scene in the entire
state. Seeing this picture of Limitless Wrestling
Show and Lewiston, Maine from Saturday makes
me happy and proud. Congratulations to Randy
Carver Jr. and everyone that made that company
what it is. I'm pretty sure. I don't have the
exact numbers. I have the estimate. I think we
did about 2 ,000, right? Was it 2 ,000? 23 is
the estimate. 23, okay. Let's go a little bit
on the safe side and let's say 21, all right?
Let's take 200 people out of the equation. I'll
say 2 ,100 people in that building was fantastic.
I think that was more than the ROH show, who
had Cody Rhodes, who had Adam Hangman Page, who
had the Young Bucks, Bully Ray. I mean... I understand
people like because we were on the podcast and
a lot of people were saying I'm here for the
Hardys. However, they fucking built that shit.
Everybody in Limitless built it. There was a
lot of Limitless fans there ready to see Desmond
Cole beat the shit out of Channing Thomas. There's
people wanting to see Tony Atlas. And Sidney
Bacabella going at it. Okay. I had to take credit
for one thing. I don't know if it was me fully
doing this, but I had to take a little bit of
credit. So Sidney Bacabella comes out, right?
I'm up top with JP. We're doing live podcasting
or live TikTok, right? So Sidney comes out to
Freebird by Leonard Skinner. And it starts off
and the crowd's dark. And Sidney walks down,
the spotlight's on him, and the music's playing.
And he gets in the ring, and I'm like, I wonder
if this would work. So I pull my phone out, and
I turn the flashlight on, and I hold it up. I
start doing this, and all of a sudden I see,
bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink,
bink. And there's a picture of Sidney in the
middle of the ring, and you see all the flashlight
camera, all the flashlights around the ring.
And I was like, holy shit, that worked. It was
such a cool moment. And I saw him at the end.
I was like, by the way, that was me that started
that. So I'm really glad it worked. He's like,
dude, that was the coolest moment. What the fuck?
What? Sorry, I'm on Facebook. This is a complete
lie. Call it a holic wrestling. Complete lie.
This did not fucking happen. What? So. Apparently,
according to Call to Holic Wrestling, which I
will again state, this is a lie. Tony got booed?
Yes, this did not happen. No, Tony got booed.
Tony did get booed. He did not get booed out.
No, he got booed hard, though. It wasn't that
bad. Oh, no, dude, the minute he said Hogan's
name, he got booed. It was kind of bad. No, it
wasn't that bad. It was not booed that bad. But
to say the reason why he didn't do, and here,
I'll pull it up. The reason why that he didn't
do it. How did you miss this? I shared this in
the chat an hour ago. Because I just looked now.
I'm trying to figure out where the fuck JP is.
He said he was going to be on a while ago. So,
yeah, no. It was not booed at a point that he
gave up. That's bullshit. I mean, that may be
a little hyperbole, but he was definitely booed
for the show. And don't get me wrong. I love
Tony. Tony's a great dude. Did he actually get
booed? I don't remember him getting booed. He
got booed, dude. The crowd turned on him quick.
We're going to fucking figure this out right
now because guess what? We have it live. Because
I don't remember him getting booed. I was also
four drinks in and I remember this. Dude, I was
so tired. I feel stupid too. Cause I try to give
Amber a hug and I was trying to hand my shit
off to Sydney and he's looking at me like, what
the fuck are you doing? And I'm like, I'm like,
I didn't say anything. I'm like, I don't, I don't
know what I'm doing. I'm sorry, buddy. It's like,
it's any who. All right. Let's fucking see this.
Oh, I just, I just remember too, that you got
sprayed with a, Oh my God. I'll talk about that.
Yeah. Talk about that one. I'm trying to find
this. So during the, um, the system, the system
is the name of the group. Yeah. The system versus,
um, Tommy Jamer, Bear Bronson and Seabass, Brian
Myers and Bear Bronson came up the stairs at
JP and I, and Brian has, uh, has Baron a headlock
and he is just yelling, um, up, up, up at us
on the fan at the, uh, on the camera. He goes,
Bear breaks it off. Starts punching Brian Myers.
Myers grabs a full can. It wasn't truly, but
it's like a truly white claw, whatever it was,
whatever they had. Smashed it into Bear Bronson's
face, and JP and I just get soaked. I was sticky
from the fingertips up to the shoulder. I was
like, hey! I was like, what just happened? Let's
see if this actually happened. I don't remember
him getting booed at all. So we'll find out.
They're going to up his mic. I can barely fucking
hear him. You can hear him in the building better.
Yeah. We get cheered here. The whole time he's...
Before we get to that, the whole time I'm sitting
there going, please don't bring up Trump. Please
don't bring up Trump. Please don't bring up Trump.
You're going to get booed out of this fucking
building. Please don't bring up Trump. Because
he did that in Palmyra. And Palmyra was like,
oh, no. That doesn't sound like booze to me.
Really? You don't hear the booze there? There
are booze, but there's a lot of cheers too. It's
a mix, but he got booed. It's a mix. Okay, but
it's not like fucking like the whole crowd was
like boo. I didn't say the whole crowd. I'm just
saying he got booed. That's what I'm saying.
It's making it sound like he got booed out of
the building. That's why he didn't do it. I'm
saying he got booed. I never said he got booed
out of the building. I'm saying that's what Cultaholic,
it seems like. That's Cultaholic. They're spin
doctors anyway. They're usually good. I'm irritated
that they would write that. Anyways, there are
boos, yes, but there's a lot of cheers too. Oops.
Sidney's sounding like he's dead. Right? Looks
like he talked about him perfectly fine. The
only thing he got booed at was the mention of
Hulk Hogan. Everything else was fine. When he
said Hulk Hogan's name, the crowd was like, screw
you. They said yes and nay. Cheers and boos.
He was a friend, blah, blah, blah. The crowd
was like, okay. That's it. Like I said, that's
why I was saying he got booed because he mentioned
Hogan. Hogan's one of those, it's like, you can
talk about Benoit and not get booed, but you
can't talk about Hogan right now and get booed.
It's weird. I don't know. Don't ask me why. That
is weird. Coach is eating my soul. Last thing
about VLC before we get to the clip of the week
and the... Sorry. Killing Cross, because I thought
JP was going to be here. He might have passed
out on his fucking couch. Carrion Cross. Okay,
it's either Killer Cross or Carrion Cross. You're
going Killing Cross, and I'm just like, who the
hell is Killing Cross? Killing Cross? Yeah. Carrion.
Carrion Cross. Carrion. Whatever. Cross. You
know who I'm talking about. Killer Cross or Carrion
Cross. This is a grab. Oh, dude. Ladies and gentlemen,
your limitless wrestling Vacation Man Cup 2025.
so packed if there wasn't seats if there wasn't
people in seats they were standing right at the
fucking oh the minute the hardy's boy hardy's
music hit man that crowd i thought the roof was
going off the building i have it i i yeah we
can't play it we're gonna we're gonna get struck
oh that's true fuck i know but okay y 'all y
'all y 'all y 'all listen listen listen to dylan
listen to me if you weren't there life Go to
IWTV. Go to YouTube. Is it still on YouTube?
I think it's still on YouTube. Yes, but it doesn't
do justice. Yeah, go find it. How loud the building
was. And check it out. It was amazing. And being
there live was wild. So if you can get to the
next limit of the show. Go. They didn't touch
for over five minutes. Yeah. They just worked
the crowd. It was crazy. People were losing their
shit. I just looked at Sammy and Matthew. They
haven't even fucking locked up yet. I can hear
Cousin Larry. They're working, kid. That's how
you work, kid. That's how you work. We're broadening
in a new segment here. Sorry. I'm going to have
to work Larry again. I was going to go. I was
going to try to go. My wife got called into work
for tomorrow. Duct tape the kids to the wall.
They'll be fine. Yep, 100%. Yes, I was so happy
when I met them. The Hardys were fucking awesome.
Dude, yeah. New segment. It's called Clip of
the Week. Are we getting new segments? We got
a new segment. That's our Clip of the Week. I'm
doing it to JP next if we have a hardcore match.
Do it. So this is clip of the week. This is the
clip of a whatever wrestling could be botches,
could be a move, whatever that I see and find.
And I think it'd be just a full boy just justified
as the best wrestling thing of the week. Now,
if you beg to differ, you can send us your clip
of the week. In our Discord, the Discord invite.
Oh, that's right. We have a Discord. We have
a Discord. It's called the Performance Center.
Performance Center. The puns are killing me.
I know. It's so funny, right? So funny. So funny.
Discord invite is in the description below. Join
it. We have... What? Sorry, this is a new one.
Well, the weight loss from Ace, I still get.
Ace is still a big boy. He's not. He used to
be, what, almost 500 pounds. He was 500. He's
probably, I want to say he's like. Three. Yeah,
he's ready to the cusp of three. I think he's
low threes. I think he's low threes now. Yeah.
Is it still big boy season? Yes. He will still
toss your ass around that ring. Yes, yes. And
I would still not mess with Ace. So, Discord.
Join the Discord. Send in your clip of the week.
There's also memes. Send in your botches, whatever
you want. Chat with people that enjoy the show,
enjoy wrestling. And of course, the perfect player
or gaming side of this is also in there. So you
can watch clips, suggest games. You can also
suggest guests that you'd like to see as well
for the show. Can I just say something about
that? Guys, as much as we'd love to have, I don't
know, CM Punk. CM Punk. I was like, give me a
big name. As much as I would love to have fucking
CM Punk, I'd love to have Shane Douglas come
on. I kind of want to just reach out to Shane
to see if he'd actually do it. He might. It's
Shane Douglas. Apparently, according to TV, he's
a storyteller though. It might be like the Eric
Johnson where we're just sitting here listening
to him for three hours. I'm okay with that. I
switched it up to the interviews. Unless they're
short. I know Superfan was short. We did a show
with that. It would just be him. It wouldn't
be another show. I'll reach out. I'll see if
he'll do it. Hopefully he won't ask for money.
Can I send you my ECW title sign, please? He
said, sure, and doesn't send it back. Clip of
the week. Whatever we can find. Oh, shit. Oh,
here we go. Oh, no, no, no. Mickey Knuckles.
Oh, this is not a good situation. Everybody,
please back up for your safety. Oh, God. Holy
shit. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, shit, he's
on fire. Oh, he's on fire. Here's a worse angle.
Look how much fire he's in. Oh, my fucking God.
It's almost like we don't know what fire is going
to do. So the ref's obviously trying to get his
shirt off to help pat the fire out. Yeah, so.
okay there i i've often said there's many things
there's a few things i won't do in wrestling
and this is one of them yep fire doesn't listen
to you fire doesn't do what it wants fire does
what it wants it's fire um yeah no thanks so
yeah oh man still on fire he's still on fire
The ring's on fire. Could you imagine? Randy
would kill us. He would somehow pull a shotgun
out from nowhere. He would manifest a 12 gauge
in his fist and just start blasting. That's if
we're alive from him strangling us. Exactly.
We would be dead. And I'm talking dead. so he
doesn't like it when they when the uh apron accidentally
gets like a little cut in it because they're
expensive in the ring yeah it was it's it's i
used the wrong paint to be fair but but to be
fair i i even offered to pay for to get cleaned
so but um you know it was just black paint imagine
fire but could you imagine yeah could you imagine
fire yeah your canvas is on fire the rings on
all the people on fire Lighter fluid what was
it lighter? Was it um? hand sanitizer, oh that
might be the reason if it's hands in an alcohol
burn a little hotter than Hand sanitizer hand
sanitizer will burn because it's alcohol will
burn a little hotter than later for a little
burn off quicker Right. Yeah, I'm like I'm like
science Trying to science at the moment. I'm
pretty sure it was hand sanitizer. Oh, here we
go. It's very liquid for hand sanitizer. No,
that's 151. That's 151. That's why. It's fucking
151. You can't make this shit up. No, you cannot
make this shit up. This is... I got nothing,
man. I really got nothing with this. I've watched
a lot of wrestling over my times and I've watched
a lot of hardcore shit. Dude, I grew up on ECW.
ECW was my jam and they didn't do shit that crazy.
I can hear Cornette rolling over in his grave
and he's not dead yet. In 20 years when Cornette
dies, he's going to watch that clip and roll
over in his grave. Exactly. And come back to
life and be like, you stupid motherfuckers. Here's
the worst part. Do the people who own the ring
and shit agree to this? Yeah. Do they agree to
you lighting a fucking fire in the middle of
their ring? The people probably pay for it. They're
probably like, whatever happens, we'll just pay
for it. The guy who owns the ring is like, okay.
So you owe me new boards? Yeah, you owe me new
canvas, new boards, new robes. How much is my
new ring? It's three grand. Let's go. That's
being generous. That is being, yeah. That is
being extremely generous. Did you see, actually,
speaking of rings, there was a clip going around.
It was a ring set on inner tubes. It was in the
middle of a lake. And any time the weight shifted,
the ring would shift. Didn't a bunch of people
roll out of it? Yeah, and the ring shifted back.
We showed that to Larry. He's like, I'd wrestle
in it. I wouldn't ring rental for it, but I'd
wrestle in it. See, that would be dope. That
would have a battle royal in it. Yeah. In the
middle of the summer, it's mega hot. You're just
out there just thrown in the lake. You're like,
oh, this feels so good. Because you know we'd
all forget that the fucking weight shifts and
we'll all be fighting on one side and all of
a sudden we'd be like, oh, shit, fuck! It'd be
like the last... He was supposed to win, shit!
It'd be like the last Ring Wars where I kept
rolling out and laying on the floor because I'm
like, oh, it's nice and cool down here. Dude,
I wanted to jump from ring to ring so bad and
I'm like, oh, that's way too big of a gap. Way
too big of a gap. I wanted somebody to do it,
but it was just way too big. I liked the whole
little chase Casanova round for the first couple
minutes. Get back here, you little shit! Yelled
at him. I missed the perfect spot. I pounced
Alan Proffitt and he slid underneath the ropes
and down into this into the uh into the middle
didn't see it if i saw it would have been like
go like perfect oh man dude it sucks when you're
like you look back at that stuff and you're like
oh i should have did that that'd be cool but
in the moment you didn't think of it because
you're like you know you're drawing this pump
in right you know You're doing 150 other things,
and you're trying not to screw up a spot or hurt
someone, so you're like, what do I do here? Right,
exactly. Now, before we get into our next, our
last topic of the night, I'd like to thank everybody
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It helps us out tremendously. We appreciate it.
If JP was here, JP would say wave to all the
listeners. We got news that... What? I said,
do we get news? No, I'm talking about the next...
news segment that we're talking about killing
cross okay i was excited killing cross he was
carrying carrying sorry what i'm saying killing
cross i don't know carrying cross i don't know
why i'm just gonna say kill across just kill
across there you go there you go i don't know
why kevin yeah no it's his actual name is kevin
i know it is i know it is he was supposed to
be re -signed He has had massive push against
him. You know, you've seen show after show. He's
kind of starting to get like the Daniel Bryan,
this is our guy type shit, you know. What show
was it that he was a part of and he was just
leaving and the fans were waiting for him to
leave? That was, I think it was a raw actually
something like that. Yeah. Yeah. And the crowd
was just like, he came out and the crowd was
all over it, dude. Um, when he lost to Sammy
at summer slam, first of all, he shouldn't have,
but when he lost to Sammy, the crowd was chanting,
we want cross. And I guess they told him don't
acknowledge it. It was a raw. Thanks Turner.
Yeah. Um, so also makes me more confused. Cause
we had, um, Paul Heyman. He was on Ariel Hoani's
show, and he said this, and of course we know
that on that show, he doesn't hold back the questions.
He wants the answers. He'll tell you straightforward,
like he said straightforward, he hates the Tony
Khan one, because Tony was being a bitch and
not answering any questions that irritated the
piss out of him. So he had to literally wait
until Punk. was on the show to ask all the questions
that he wanted answered. But we had Paul Heyman
on this show, and Paul Heyman asked him about
Killer Cross. What's going on with Karrion Kross?
In what way? Something's happening. You see the
crowd. They're chanting for him at the post show
and all this stuff. He didn't get the W. What
is there is there a thing here? Is it just like
the internet trying to make something into a
thing? Well, they made it a thing Okay, and it's
not just the internet. It's the internet. It's
the live crowd It's the people that buy merchandise.
He's a he's a tremendous performer and What an
act he has with scarlet. I mean they are great
together. Should he be getting more opportunities?
How do you know? Well, let me ask you this. If
he were getting great opportunities, if he were
the intercontinental champion or the U .S. champion
right now, would he have this level of support
from the crowd? No, they'd love to get behind.
You know, Kofi, Daniel Bryan, they'd love to
get behind someone. The underdog, so to speak.
So it's working. Yeah, it's working. It's working.
It's organic. By the way, I'm not hating on it.
it's fun i like him i'm rooting for him it's
just fun to see these things sort of like you
know kind of the the the the audience is calling
for him to be a bigger star and if the and if
we don't deliver it on a timetable that an impatient
audience an impassioned audience is going to
like they're going to get behind him even more
Which is great. They're making him a star. We're
not shoving him and Scarlett down anybody's throats.
The audience itself is making him a star and
indeed, perhaps, a top star. And he's talented
enough, and so is she, to carry it. It reminds
me of someone else, by the way, that was in WWE,
that the audience felt, this is our guy. We like
this act. We like him to be a bigger star. Why
aren't you making him a bigger star? Damn it,
make him a bigger star. We're going to chant
his name. We're going to bring his signs. We're
going to buy his T -shirts. We're going to demand
that you make him a bigger star. That guy's name
was Steve Austin. Daniel Bryan, too. CM Punk,
as well. My God, yes. I thought that's actually
what you were going to say. Yes, CM Punk. Yeah.
Yeah. Point taken as well. I concede that point
to you. So we get that from Paul Heyman. Yeah.
And it's understandable, you know, because he
worked for Daniel Bryan, worked for Stone Cold,
worked for Kofi. Why not work for Killer Cross?
Exactly. And so when we see that. He's doing
open for bookings because he did not sign a new
contract with WWE. Makes you feel like this is
possibly a work. But at the same time, I want
to believe this is a work because I can't see
how bad they would fuck this up. However... This
isn't just WWE anymore. This is also TKO. And
TKO fired fucking R -Truth. So I would not be
surprised if they didn't see what WWE sees and
just let them go. So I'm of two minds with this.
It could be legit a TKO is like, you know, and
they're like, it's a money -cutting thing because
TKO is all about business, all about making money.
And we have examples that's going to come up,
but continue on. Or this could be a full work
where he's out of the company and he's going
to go take some bookings, go to maybe a radio
hit him up, which would be awesome. But I don't
know. I'm really of two minds. Ace versus Killacross.
That'd be cool as hell. TNA, but the thing is,
too, if his contract's expired, that... means
he doesn't have 30 day or 90 day people he doesn't
have a 90 day non -compete clause if you get
released you have that if you get fired you have
that if you ask for your release you have that
if your contract expires you don't have that
correct so why you can't tell me with the ground
swell coming up under him He's a free agent and
can go anywhere that Tony Khan isn't backing
a dump truck of money up to his house right now.
Going, he didn't come work for me. It would make
no sense. The only thing that makes sense is
he's still under contract because that's the
only thing that adds up in this equation. and
like you're bringing up a good point and that
it's like why would you fuck this up the crowd
is getting behind them why would you let somebody
go that is that's going to be making you money
yeah however i know i guess like i guess like
last raw they're like oh we didn't hear a single
we want cross chant they were in canada canada
is a complete canada's bizarro world when it
comes to stuff ronto wrestlemania 17 i believe
it was speaking of hulk hogan hulk hogan versus
the rock they booed the rock out of the building
and cheered hogan it's bizarre a world in canada
it will not only that it's like i think it's
still fans are like seeing like thinking that
this is a work like there's no way that they
fucked this up but the problem is they could
have fucked this up like literally they could
have messed this completely up and we're gonna
see killer cross and scarlet back in impact or
back in not an impact because they're working
on WWE. That actually might be where they end
up. Who knows? But they could end up over on
AEW. They could end up in AAA. Maybe they go
to Japan. Maybe they just take some time off
and just say, screw it. We're going to go on
vacation. Maybe. When we all found that out,
we're still getting it. I'm thinking it's...
I've been wrong before. I was wrong about Cena.
I 100 % believe that Cena was going to do the
whole turn on... Summer Slam and be like, you
stupid motherfucker. You think that I would be
this nice guy? No. I'm the greatest of all time.
Kick Cody in the dick or something like that
and Cody loses again. I honestly 100 % believe
that was going to happen and yet I was completely
wrong. I don't know why they decided to go the
route that they did, but whatever. But Killer
Cross, he was on Ariel Helwani's show. He flat
out asked Killer Kross, is this a work? Is he
working the people? Problem is, just before we
get into it, if you're working the people, you're
not going to say you're working the people. If
I'm working someone, I'm going to be like, yeah,
totally, kid, I'm working you. He even says it
in this clip right here. I have never asked a
pro wrestler. the question that i'm about to
ask you and the reason why i i've never done
so is because i have so much respect for what
you guys do and for the history of the business
people could talk about the unreels and all that
stuff i think there are certain questions that
you shouldn't ask out of respect for what you
do and what it's all about i appreciate that
but i do feel like i need to ask you a certain
amount of questions and i need to be as sort
of pointed as possible okay of course are you
working us right now no no i'm not answering
questions today as a character This is legit.
This is Kevin. Yep. Okay. What you put out on
your YouTube channel on Sunday evening, a riveting
documentary that I urge everyone to see. You
almost have about 800 ,000 views as of right
now in three days. That's incredible. Probably
has a million, over a million now. I have yet
to see it. Probably. I've heard from people who
have watched it that it's really fucking good.
Really fucking good. You said that your WWE contract
came to an end on August 10th. Mm -hmm. and as
of right now you have not resigned with them
you do not have a new deal with them no is that
accurate that is accurate yeah you're not working
us on that front no and i feel bad asking you
that i've never used that word in an interview
to the best of my knowledge maybe i'm wrong but
i don't think so because the reason why i feel
the need to ask it is because of the seth rollins
thing that just happened right you understand
why of course and i'm sure you've seen people
say this is a work in fact people have said your
appearance on today's show is validation that
it's a work they think that because you're coming
here that means this has to be a work no i mean
i was planning on doing a book tour and doing
media i've been doing a lot of media um ecw publishing
the publisher of the book has been helping me
with that um being able to be on your platform
all the people we reach like there was no anticipation
that this was going to happen on the way to do
the book tour so that kind of you know this is
this is just what's happening so how did we get
here How is this possible? Well, I mean, truth
of the matter is, I mean, you've already stated,
like, you know, my contract was up last week.
I never actually received a contract, like an
offer, until last week. Isn't that fucking crazy?
Yeah, that's them. I think that was them. If
I'm reading, if I read it right, how, how they're
doing it is like, Oh, we'll, we'll wait till
last minute. We'll give him this low ball offer.
He wants to be here. He'll sign. No, no, he won't
because he values his time and energy in life.
And he'll be like, nah, screw you, man. And here's
the thing. I was offered a contract, not we,
I, he'll, he'll get into that. Yeah. He'll get
into, into that. But yeah, they did the same.
Those who have never seen the Sam Roberts and
Jim Norton show, they did the same thing to Jim
Norton. He knew the writing was on the wall,
that they're going to get rid of him. And like
an hour or two before the contract expired, they
handed him an offer. And it was a lowball offer
that he couldn't dispute. Have a conversation
about. And they did it on purpose. Because they
knew. Sign this or don't. See you later. And
they fucked up. Because he's killing it on YouTube
now. He's interviewing comedians. I think his
YouTube channel. Is only like six months old.
And has over a million subscribers. Yeah. He's
killing it right now. But yeah. I'm kind of thinking
again. If this is real. This is TKO fucking up.
Yeah. That they're just like, oh, he's not a
draw, whatever. And he's going to explain to
it. I'm going to be jumping the gun here a little
bit. But they gave him a 24 -hour notice. It
was, hey, you have 24 hours to sign this. Yeah.
I'd have been like, no. No, but that's just saying
it's like that's obviously a, hey, we kind of
hoping that you just go away. Yeah. Yeah. So.
He's going to explain it in just a minute. Do
you remember what day? So your contract expired
August 10th, which I do believe was Sunday. Yeah.
I think it was Tuesday off the top of my head.
Okay. You know, I got the offer. I wanted to
know how they came to the valuation of that offer.
Just wanted, you know, like some information,
some metrics, some analytics that's supporting
to, hey, this is how we got here. inquired about
that. They were unwilling to provide that information
and told me I had 24 hours to agree to the offer
or they were rescinding it. So, you know, the
next day we talk. I ask if they have the information.
They don't. And I said, I can't make an informed
decision without the information. And I'd like
to keep the dialogue open. And they rescinded
the offer. And that's actually where we're at.
Wow. So, and it's... Hey, can you just give me
the information? If you're in a real job, your
boss, usually when you get a bonus, if you get
a bonus, they have... Honestly, I've gotten some,
which is surprising because our company never
did. At one point in time, it was literally like,
you want a bonus? Your commission is your bonus.
Do better. That was nice. Typically, they'll
give you maybe a packet or whatever and say,
hey, this is what we noticed of your work ethic
and this is your whatever is your bonus going
to be because this is how you've been excelling
in the workforce. That's basically all he's asking
is like, hey, I just want to know Why you think
I deserve this much money? I just, just give
me what the information that you have and let's,
you know, have a conversation. And their answer
was, ah, no, we're sending our offer. Thanks.
Thanks, buddy. Thanks, bro. Thanks. It's not
meant. This isn't like, I know how a lot of people
feel when they make an exit, right? I can empathize
with everybody's experience. Every experience
exit in the company is different, right? This
isn't like to disparage WWE, but because there's
so many convoluted stories out there going on,
it actually even to some degree can affect our
livelihood of what we're supposed to be doing
afterwards. People don't want to reach out because
they're not sure if they're tampering and stuff
like that. The goal has always been to be with
WWE. My wife and I still want to be with WWE.
I'm still at the table for conversations. I did
not step out of the conversation. You know what
I mean? So, you know, we still want to be there.
We still want to work it out. Okay, so a few
things to obviously follow up on. I have never
heard of the, hey, here's an offer, you have
24 hours, and if you don't respond or take it,
we're taking it away. Have you ever heard this
being done before? I haven't, no. Have you asked
other guys, like, is this how it goes when a
contract is up? I haven't asked anybody about
their... Again, this is going to be a TKO thing.
This might be something new that they're doing.
I don't know. Oh, yeah. Okay, we're going to
fire you, but here's a contract that's garbage.
Take it or get fired. Get fucked. Take it or
get fucked. Take it or get fucked. I'm sorry.
If I'm the talent, say you're, I don't know,
Sammy Zane. I'm going to use Sammy. Say you're
Sammy Zane, right? your contract rolls up. They're
like, okay, you're getting paid $750 ,000 a year.
I'm sure he gets more of that, but estimate,
right? You're getting that. TK walks up and goes,
okay, here's your contract. You're now going
to get paid $250 ,000 a year. No, absolutely
not. Okay, then just get fucked. No, that's not
how this works. Right, exactly. I might take
a pay cut of like, say, I go from $750 ,000 to
$700 ,000. But we need to talk about that. Do
I get more incentive from t -shirts? Do I get
more incentive if I'm on live programming? We
can make it work where you're not paying me a
downside guarantee as much and I get more at
the far end. But we need to talk about it, not,
fuck you, this is what you're taking. Right,
exactly, exactly. Particular experiences now.
That seems a little odd, right? I mean, I've
been in contract negotiations myself. I've never
been given a 24 hours. And if not, we're taking
it away. Why do you think that was the play?
Why was that the tone? I don't know. Was it less
than what you were making? No, but I mean, at
the end of the day, like when evaluation is being
suggested, there has to be something where people
can go to information wise and say, Hey, this
is how we came to this. Yeah, of course. And
you know, this is. what we think makes sense.
I asked to see that information. I still haven't
seen it. I want to see it. Let's look at it together
and let's decide whether this is appropriate
or not. I don't think that that's unreasonable.
Was it a departure from what you were thinking?
Like if we would have talked to like, what are
you hoping for? Was this way off? I didn't necessarily
have like, I wasn't thinking about it like that.
I was thinking, let's assess everything together
and see where we're at. I want to make sure that
this is actually reflective fairly of what we
have information -wise to collect and look at.
That's all. That's all. Now, I might have pulled
it. It might be a different clip. I might have
taken it out by accident. He was asked about
what about his wife. I am listening, by the way.
I'm just responding. I know. And they said, basically,
let's take care of you first, and then we'll
work on her. even though that they signed together
when they first joined the WWE back, back joined
WWE after they were released the first time.
So that being said, I'm kind of made me feel
like if he did actually agree to it, they weren't
going to actually sign her. Yeah. Yeah. I have
a feeling that's probably what, what happened
to like, Oh, cool. You said your contract by
Scarlett. And even though Scarlett is an integral
part of it, the fricking act. right it's not
just him scarlet is part of it right exactly
you know that'd be like having i'm gonna use
gold dust as a good example gold dust at the
beginning marlena was a huge part of the act
you know edging edging christian sorry christian
try that again matt and hardy matt matt hardy
god damn i'm getting tired jeff and matt hardy
lito is a big part of the act right especially
at the beginning yes i'm getting a little ep
folks i apologize i'm not a night person anymore
you know but Scarlett's a huge part of this act
and not bringing her back would be dumb. A hundred
percent. And so I don't know, again, I'm hoping
it's a work cause this sounds really fucking
dumb. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows at this point?
Um, I did think this, I pulled this really quick.
I think this was kind of cool that, uh, he talks
about, um, Taker watching his match. with him
and um sammy which kind of made me feel like
oh this is kind of cool because we all do the
same thing with you know with our coaches or
you know something that's uh way up high up there.
It's like if they watch the match, like, well,
how do you feel about it? Did you like it? Was
I absolute dog shit? What is that? Yeah, it's
like when AG comes up, he's like, yo, I watched
your match. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. He's like, how
bad was it? What I like about AG is if he does
watch your match, he'll give you like, he'll
be like, okay, so I noticed this and he'll give
you like critiques, but they're always to make
you better. He's never going to tear you down.
Right. He's always going to be like, yo, I saw
this. Maybe next time try it this way. And next
time you do it that way, you're like, oh, okay,
I see it. Or like I know Gangrel when he was
at the Let's Show, and I guess he watched every
match. Really? Yeah, knowing he watched my match,
I was kind of like, I'm sorry, what? I didn't
find that out until later. I would have asked
him how I did. Maybe I'm glad I didn't ask him
because I think that was one of the shows that
I didn't have one of my better matches. Oh, yeah.
I don't think I was on that show. I don't remember
if you were or not. It's been a hot minute. 24
hours. How close were you to actually taking
this deal within 24 hours? impossible okay because
you can't like i had explained to them we'll
go over this one i had said like there's there's
no opportunity here to make an informed decision
without looking at the information together so
you you can't do that like your your whole livelihood
is based on this idea with no information to
support it i just wanted to get there i wanted
to keep the dialogue open so and i still do you
know like And just curious, are you speaking
through an agent, a manager, or is it direct,
you to them? No, me, for sure. Okay. I came to
the table to talk. And specifically, if you don't
mind me asking, who are you speaking to when
you're going through this? It's a rep that the
company appointed to have a conversation with.
That's the crazy part. Yeah, it's a rep. Great.
It's a rep. Yeah. Didn't we have somebody, was
it years back, that was like, bragging about
being the head of like the writing team whatever
and didn't know who the fuck bobby lashley was
and he was oh you mean um you mean bro might
have been uh russo was it russo russo no the
part of the right no no no this was uh this was
recently this was like like three or four years
ago oh when vince was still around Oh, God. Vince
probably didn't know who Lashley was. No, I can't
remember what her name was, but she was, like,
head of the writing. She was head of the writing.
She didn't know who Bobby Lashley was. And, like,
a few other things, like, a key, like, every
fan would fucking know what, even if you weren't
a fan, would know what these things are. She
had no fucking clue, and I think she got fired,
like, the next day. They let her go. It's like,
yeah, we're going different. Sorry. It's my bad.
So, it's not. Always good to have a rep. No,
no, no. Take care of this shit. I understand
the company having a rep, but at the same point,
the rep should be the head of talent relations.
That should be their freaking job. When JR was
in charge, he wasn't the one negotiating contracts.
He was head of talent relations. If a wrestler
was going to have a contract negotiation, JR
would be sitting down like, all right, son, so
we're going to give you this much money and we're
going to give you this much for your t -shirts.
What do you think? The talent could be like,
I like it. Or it sucks, J .R., can we do something
else? Well, I'll go talk to Vince. Comes back.
Well, we can do this. Okay, cool. There, contract
signed. Right. I'm not saying it always happened
that way, but you know what I'm saying. Now you
get like, you know, you get one guy, it's phone
tag. You get one guy talking to another guy,
talking to another guy, talking to another guy,
talking to another guy, going to talk to the
talent. And the guy talking to the talent is
probably some like guy that just like two days
ago was just fetching coffee, you know? Like,
some poor little dude that's never, you know,
walks up to Karrion Kross, shaking, like, hello,
here's your copy, Mr. Kross, and here's your
contract. You have 24 hours to sign it. And Karrion
Kross is probably like, I'm sorry, I have what?
And the kid was like, bye, and took off, you
know? Probably. Yeah. He's a big man. Again,
I'm not saying that's how it happened, but, you
know. He's a big man. I would be terrified, too.
Yeah, Karrion's not a small dude. He's, what,
6 '2", 6 '3"? He's only 6 '2", 6 '3", really?
I think it was way bigger than that. I'm going
to look it up. I thought it was like 6 '5", 6
'4", 6 '5". He might be. I don't know how big
he is. But anyways, continue on. I would have
loved to have spoke to either of my bosses. 6
'4". Would that be Paul Levesque? Sure. Okay.
When my wife and I came back, Hunter had called
us, and we did our deals over the phone together.
So I was just under the assumption that we were
going to do that again. um we did them at the
same time and yeah like typically i would not
put somebody in front of me to talk to hunter
i feel comfortable to talk to him you know in
person we've always talked that way so but yeah
yeah i believe i read in here i believe you said
are you ready to come home right yes the first
time yeah um you did not get that and and it
is worth noting there's another human being involved
in this your wife yeah who means the world to
you um she's in the same boat right her deal
was up august 10th and she has not been resigned
yeah um when they made that offer was it for
the two of you nothing she had nothing there
was no offer to her nothing no i was told at
one point because i did inquire of course yeah
after we deal with you we'll deal with her do
you think that they were going to get to her
like once they were probably hoping you'd say
yes do you think they were going to get to her
or do you think there was a chance that she was
not going to be brought back regardless i don't
know wow but i just I don't see why we just could
not have done things the way we did them before.
I don't understand either. Again, it's two companies
now in one. This is probably how Tokyo ran their
shit. That's just fucking crazy. It's all stupid.
I still personally think it's a work. I still
think it's a work too. I still think it's a work.
I'm probably going to be proven wrong, but I
still think in the long run, this is going to
be a big work. I think it's going to be... I
think what it is, is it's going to show up...
If you noticed last Raw, Sammy was wearing his
hair like Carrion. That was one thing Carrion
did to people he was fighting. When he fought
AJ, he wore his hair like AJ. When he fought
Sammy, he wore his hair like Sammy. It was a
little subtle thing. You had to pay attention
to it, but it was kind of cool. Sammy wore his
hair like Carrion last Monday, so I think...
we're going to see something come about it. I
could be completely wrong, but we'll see. I hope
so. This is Taker and Cross talking about Taker.
What happens after the match? Does someone say
something to you? Do you get a chat, a hug, a
thank you? What is that vibe like when you walk
back to Gorilla and back to the locker room?
Thank you is making sure everybody was okay and
handshakes and that was pretty much it. I thought
it was cool. This is the only time I've ever
known for this to happen, but Taker was in Gorilla,
and Sammy and I went to Taker after the match
to get his thoughts on it, and it was all good.
Wow. So that was cool. The Undertaker watched
one of our matches, which is cool. I grew up
watching him ever since I was a little kid. He's
actually giving you pointers? He just talked
about what he liked about the match, and we asked
him if there was anything that jumped out or
stood out that we would do anything differently
with, and he said he really enjoyed it. Incredible.
Yeah, that was cool for me. Can you imagine if
it was the opposite? That was absolute dog shit.
I mean, it's going to happen. Even if you think
you have a great match, I've had times where
I walk back and go, well, man, that was a pretty
good match, and you walk up to someone and they're
like, that sucked. Yeah, that has happened. It's
like, ah, thanks. It's like, oh, I thought that
was okay. right he's like oh thanks you know
but all right all right i see i say uh yeah you
you you're getting you're you calling it oh my
god i'm starting to get there okay i don't want
to tap out before everyone else so all right
um we'll do uh i think it's like i said i'm to
finish my thoughts on that i think it's work
Yeah, I'll just basically give the summary about
the other ones that I had. So basically, he was
asked if AEW reached out to him, and he said
no. Again, because it's a work. Yeah, they think
it might be a work, so they haven't reached out.
And he just more explains that he's trying to
get back with WWE because he wants to still work
with them. He'll have that plan on the table.
That's the goal, man. And people were saying,
I've read it. People said if I go to TNA, they
know it's a work, but if they go to AEW, they
know it's not a work. Apparently, he does have
some dates that he's working on that he has not
said yet. Apparently, he has some possible indie
dates coming up. I will tell you what. I'll tell
you this too. If he works for any of the WWE
ID schools on their shows, it's a work. Oh, 100%.
A hundred percent. Yeah. Like say he works for
like chaotic or he works for like, you know,
shit, even limitless, you know, it's work. Oh
yeah. A hundred percent. And then, um, he, uh,
he, uh, let's see what I have right here for,
uh, uh, asked if Paul, he heard what Paul Heyman
said, which we played. And, you know, he said
that he did. And, you know, he gave a story that
he doesn't like to talk about Paul Heyman because
he doesn't want people to feel like he's like,
trying to get something out of people. He doesn't
like talking about people because he feels like
they might think that he's trying to pull something
out of them. But he has a really great relationship
with Paul Heyman. Do I have that really quick?
I just want to play this part really quick of
it. I think this is something really cool to
play. I'll just skip to that part of the video.
There was one thing that he told me a long time
ago, and I don't think he'd mind that I'm saying
this. I love this. A long time ago, in this last
term that I had, there was a time where I was
off TV for over three months. I'd have to ask
my wife. She has a much better memory than I
do. Maybe four or five months. I was backstage
at TV every week, hoping this is going to be
the day we're going to get back on TV. He calls
me over. We sit down in Gorilla. Just check in,
shoot the breeze. We get to this conversation.
He goes, he goes, I want to ask you a question.
I go, what? And he says, say they pull you off
TV for another two months, three months. Do you
think if you were given the opportunity to go
out there and perform at your best, you could
get over with that audience? You could entertain
them? I said, of course. And he goes, good. I
do too. Never forget that. How about five months?
Could you do it? Of course I could. Good. How
about six months? How about a year? Could you
go out there? If you had no handcuffs, no restrictions,
could you go engage that audience? Could you
get over? Could you do what you're supposed to
do with this job? I said, yes. And he said, good.
Don't ever let the time you're spending off TV
rattle you because you know what you're doing.
I can verbatim repeat that because that was a
conversation that has lived in my head to now.
It solidified my confidence in what I was doing.
Like I, like I had never, ever had it before.
Okay. That's cool. Right. Now that you see why
I play that. Yeah. And as someone who's had confidence
issues in the ring, that's, yeah, that's pretty
cool, man. So yeah. How's that for a little boost?
Listen to Paul Heyman. Yeah, I'd love to, actually.
Let's see if he gets on the podcast. Yeah, right.
Paul Heyman. Who else I got to reach out to?
Shane Douglas. The franchise. I'm going to do
it. I'm going to message him. You'll probably
ask for money, but I'll message him. I know Primer
said he was going to reach out to try to book
him for MPW when Primer was booking MPW. No shit.
I said that would have been the coolest thing,
man. Ida Pop's huge, personally. That's just
because it's me. But I think people still know
who Shane Douglas is, and that would have been
pretty cool to meet and greet and have him. I
think he still works a little bit, but he wouldn't
even have to do anything. It would be like a
tag match and have him come in. Just pull the
Tolly Atlas. Yeah, bop, bop, bop, and maybe hit
a belly -to -belly. Maybe take one bump. yeah
yeah exactly now that is all our news now we'll
do the uh the fun part of the show actually one
more quick news news item i did share this in
the chat apparently uh tonight sammy callahan
retired from professional wrestling oh why so
he lost to i forgot the homeboy's name uh he
lost a tna in the pay -per -view tonight and
he said if i guess he said if he loses he's it's
a it's a shoot retirement too he left his boots
in the ring so yeah So I guess he's retired.
No shit. Oh, that's sad. Fuck. Just figured I'd
share that real quick. Huh. Are you sure it's
a shoe? It could be work. I'm pretty sure it's
a shoe. Cause then, um, um, shit. What is his
name? I want to say Mr. Ass. That's not a billy
gun. There you go. Yeah. And he do the same thing.
Leave his boots in the ring. And yeah. i mean
you he could come back i guess but i mean usually
if you leave your boots in the ring that pretty
much means you're done so yeah that's true that's
true that's crazy wow That should be all the
news though now. That's it. That was breaking
news. Breaking news there. In the spirit of JP
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It's really hard to describe what we're watching.
We're just going to cut all this shit and we'll
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to clip that. I gave you a clean one. Thank you.
I appreciate it. What's your guilty pleasure
movie? See, that's the thing. That would be like,
I'm ashamed to say I watched it. Yeah, I'm not
ashamed. It's a great movie. But it's for kids.
It's for everyone. Pixar's for adults now. Behind
the Green Door? What is that? Is that your guilty
pleasure? Behind the green door? Really? What's
that movie? Wait, I think it's called The Green
Door. What's behind the green door? Just looking
to see if anybody gets it. No, don't worry about
it. Yeah, go ahead. Check it out. Check it out.
This door is 1972 hardcore pornography. I'm on
that Wi -Fi here. Like, what? So... So... John?
Bro, I'm just trying to genuinely answer the
question. I like the classics! I got a knack
for the classics! Fuck it, Cena. That'd be a
bad answer. I could see fucking Ben sitting there,
and that would be an answer he would throw out.
Yeah. I think John Cena would be so fun to hang
out with. And all of us would turn and look at
Ben and be like, no, that tracks. Dude, if he
acts anything like Ben, just getting them both
in the same room would be fucking awesome. He's
so dry for some of his humor, too, where he's
just like, he'll say shit. And everyone's like,
wait. What was he screaming at the last Ring
Wars that we were all together? Let's go fuck
Venom. Who plays Venom? Who plays Venom? Hey,
Siri. Who played Venom? Why is this so hard?
Just tell me. Tom Hardy. Yeah. He's just going
up to all of us. He's like, you ready? Fuck Tom
Hardy. And all of us are just kind of like, we're
like, what? Are you okay over there? Dude, I
think he came to that show fucked up. I think
he came to that show fucked up. He's fine. It's
dad. No, but I mean, his match was great. I think
he had a little too many before he showed up.
It's what it is. Oh, man. Oh, my God. Let's get
on out of here. I kind of want to do that. I
kind of want to do that just to see what happens.
I want to see if he actually would be like, yeah,
fuck it, whatever. Probably get his dad. Probably
could. I kind of want to do... I'm going to do
John Cena. I'm going to do Shane Douglas. And...
Shit, somebody else. What was the third one?
Dan Housen? No, not Dan Housen. No, he did Dan
Housen. He never answered. We said one more.
Shit. It'll come to me later. Alright, do your
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One of those two things. I have one. I have no
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I don't use that either. It's a lot easier with
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to get it. That's fine. You can find me wrestling
tomorrow. Skowhegan Fair. I'll be there. Skowhegan
Fair. Be at 3 o 'clock and hopefully it's not
as hot as it was last time I wrestled there,
which was last week and it was 93. As long as
it's not 93 fucking degrees, I don't care if
it's thunders. Jesus, it was so hot. One of those
heel spots I did with JP is I took his head and
pushed it on the mat. That's it. That's all I
did. I screamed like a little bitch because it
was hot. Anyway, coming up after that, what is
next weekend? I have a thing next weekend. I
can't think what I have next weekend. I have
shows coming up. I'll be at MEW. I'll be at Crown
of Maine, their next show. I'll be at Ring Wars.
I'm not wrestling at Ring Wars, but I'll be at
Ring Wars. I might wrestle at Ring Wars, depending.
I hope so, because I have new gear. I really
want to debut. I really want to do it at a show
and not at a fair. Does it fit? Yeah, I tried
it on today. It all fits. It's a little snugger.
It's not baggy like my orange pair. It's more
like my blue pair. My blue pair fits. Nice. It's
a little snugger, but it's not tight, if you
know what I'm saying. everything know exactly
what you're saying yeah yeah so um so yeah i'll
be at shows uh come check it out if you want
to just come up say hi to me at a show if you're
like yo dylan nicks what's up come come say hi
i'm pretty personable and i like hanging out
with people um i like you know captain and coke
just saying captain i actually and i joke I could
have been drinking those at Vacationland. I wasn't.
I was drinking one of the Pineapple Truly knockoffs
because they were actually really tasty. I was
too busy talking to fans and shit. I didn't want
to be slurring my fucking words. Dude, I had
four of those. I didn't feel it. They were basically
water. Pineapple flavored water with a little
bit of booze in them. Especially if you're fucking
paying an arm and a leg for them. No, I was okay
with it. They're tasty. All right. Big Cat Tyler
Adams on TikTok and Instagram. Tyler Adams on
Twitter and Facebook. You can catch me at Main
Ring Wars Brewer September 26th and, of course,
Crowd of Maine at Fort Fairfield on October 4th.
JP will be with me at Ring Wars as well as Nick's.
However, JP will be wrestling. Nick's might be
too if he's not just hanging out. I'm doing music
at least. It is going to be me and Nick's. for
Crown of Maid. I don't know what we're doing.
I don't know if we're tagging together or if
we're doing different shit. No one tells me anything.
I have no fucking clue. Figure it out when we
show up. Maybe rematch for our titles, hopefully.
That'd be nice. That would be nice. And then,
of course, you can catch Per Sessions on every
platform, social media platform, Per Sessions,
at Per Sessions. Of course, you can follow us
on uh, every audio platform we're on there. Give
us five store stars. Make sure you like comment,
subscribe the channel. And of course we have
the perfect player, the, um, video channel. That's
all live on Twitch. Uh, when I'm not playing
with where we're not playing altogether, I'm
live. Most of the time, just come hang out. You
know, if you want to watch me play some video
games, get my ass kicked, uh, or, uh, listen
to a Levi yell at me at, uh, at a war zone. Uh,
you can watch those at, um, Stay tuned and watch
those. Those are pretty funny. Other than that,
thank you guys so much for watching. I need to
go to bed too, apparently. We'll see you guys
next week. The words of Road Dogg. Q -I -E. Diva
out. End stream. Yes.