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with us today the hardcore maniac uh nobody else
because everybody else has other shit to do today
losers We're planning on doing a very short podcast
so we could do a perfect player shit. However,
we will. We will. We're going to figure that
out on the fly. We will make we will make something
happen because I want to play games. I just we
didn't have the time, the resources of just time
consuming energy happening. I'm ready to go.
Just the only issue is what we're going to play.
I suggested Halo, but I don't know if you have
it. If you have the power while we're doing shit,
just simultaneously put a bunch of shit on a
wheel. We'll spin it. I don't know what you have
and what you don't have. If you put anything
from Game Pass, it's a multiplayer game. You
don't have Game Pass? Who are you? I don't have
Game Pass. I thought we had this discussion.
We did, but we haven't yet confirmed if we're
going to do it or not. I'll be opening my screen.
That's why I was suggesting free shit like Halo.
I can do Halo because I can jump on. I can do
it through Game Pass. I can do any game. We'll
do that then. That'll be the first. We won't
spin the wheel this time, but we'll just do a
fun little game of Halo. Next week, we'll be
more prepared, I'm sure. I don't even know what
next week is. uh halo whatever halo you have
because i have both of them i believe i have
the the master chief collections on game pass
and we can cross platform anything so we literally
the master chief or or just do the master chief
one uh no it has all the games in that one so
i can literally no do not do master chief collection
because once you download it i have it but once
you download it you have to go into the game
and download it itself in Master Chief Collection.
Oh, I don't have to do that with Game Pass because
I can just cloud game the shit out of it and
play it right now. I can play it in cloud gaming.
Okay, we'll figure out which Halo you want to
play and we'll play that. halo you could do the
master chief collection just pick between one
and four i think reach was like my reach is awesome
i love reach so we can do reaches three was my
like goaded like everything but when it came
to reach it that was like just prepare to get
your ass into um i anticipated i also should
probably make sure my controller is connected
anyway because i'm gonna actually know you could
actually on on game pass on here you can play
certain games mouse and keyboard and i I believe
the mouse keyboard and mouse. I am shit with
mouse and keyboard for Halo, but. I'm a fucking
smoky bitch. Okay. Anywho. Welcome to the show
as we're talking about games. He's talking about
shit. We shit talking right before the storm.
Yeah. So. We wanted to do a light show today,
but it's probably going to end up doing a long
show. So we might not even be able to play games
today, but we'll find out. Because a lot of shit
has happened over the weekend. Let me tell you.
There was a lot happening. Oh, my gosh. So we
had AEW did their event, which I haven't seen.
I only watched the main because there's a lot
of blood. oh the john moxley shit yeah it was
it was there's a slow -mo clip we probably can't
show it but there is a slow -mo clip of hangman
just hanging digging a fork no he was doing the
fork into moxley's head and you watch the the
spew coming out of his forehead it was almost
just as bad as the tremont thing that we saw
which i know we can't show that either and that's
the thing it's like i keep on saying when is
it too much when it comes to a major platform
such as aw um they do kind of tend to overdo
those style matches and but the problem is is
they do it with everyone they don't do it with
a specific style of people like like john moxley
does them and he does them a lot but that's aren't
those style wrestlers like i'm pretty sure sammy
guevara like did the same thing uh the young
bucks aren't that style of wrestlers and they've
done that stuff right guys like darby allen are
different because he he literally is reckless
endangerment to himself and he does all that
stuff oh jesus just happened i was just trying
to think of it that would be better I blew up
on my screen. I was like, oh my god. Didn't mean
to interrupt your flow. I was at a deep thought
and all of a sudden my face blew up. I'm just
thinking maybe if that would be better or not,
but I like this better. Deep thoughts. That is
definitely the issue because even on the independents
in your matches in particular with the hardcore
stuff. Can you not die on me, kid? Anywho. there
was always that thing of uh hey this is gonna
be pretty graphic if you guys want to you know
stick around you're more than welcome to but
you probably shouldn't have kids watching this
shit there has been times i don't know what shows
specifically but there's been times where like
certain things have been called out where the
following contest yo is a hardcore match and
you know this is gonna happen this is gonna happen
if like my uh bar the barbed wire no rope or
no i was barbed wired ropes with mason x like
we we told people we're like this shit's gonna
get really fucked um if you don't want your children
to watch it please leave now um if you are in
the way then get get out of the way right that
sort of thing yeah so it's like and then any
other time it's been like all right this hardcore
match you know what's coming embrace for impact
yeah basically but that's the problem with like
aw excuse that that there's so much of that for
everything you know we have you know it started
like small with like the suffocating of yeah
daniel brian danielson with the trash bag which
was like oh yeah it's like that's fun that's
a little bit That's a good old slack indie professional,
you know, deathmatch wrestler bit right there.
Like you see it on the Indies and it's like the
greatest thing ever. You said shit on TV and
you're like, what are they doing? Right. Then
there was the hangman and it was a source trickling
with the needle going through the cheek. The
needle. The steel cage. I don't know if it was
both of them or if it was. No, I think it was
Osprey and Swerve. The steel cage with the chair,
the chair shot, the chair shot. Yeah, that stuff
like those two don't do that style match. And
they put those people in those matches and they
do the same exact things or the most extreme
things when it doesn't. It's too much when, you
know, when those type of people are doing it.
right and what was it with uh one of the uh uh
shit um somebody like the young bucks said the
pyro the the pyro shit with the uh remember the
um flamethrower shit i mean that's that's flamethrower
shit the super kick the super kick the boots
that was that was attached to the steel cage
and they chucked a fucking steel chair at his
face. I think that was the Osprey and Hangman,
or Swerve and Hangman. No, Swerve, like, just
literally just fucking, well, I think it was
almost the same spot. But, yeah, it's just, it's...
If you want more of an audience, maybe tone that
shit down. Just saying. Right, like... Like,
even, like, CM Punk and Drew McIntyre, that match
was a little like, ooh, this is a little too
much. But the thing with that match is it made
sense. Well, right, it made sense, but still.
That is the only time where they did that extreme
nature. Plus, they were inside of Hell in a Cell,
which is known for... its extreme casualty you
know appearance right so like but like granted
this the stairs thing was just that was that
was brutal gruesome brutal everything else just
made sense because of that situation because
if you look because as when that was done that
was bad blood of last year right yeah i think
so they have not done anything close to that
since then They literally save that for a pay
-per -view literally named Bad Blood. Right.
John Moxley's literally bleeding on a random
Wednesday night every other week. I'm not bashing
it. I love it. It's like the kayfabe movie. He's
in a battle with it. He's fucking kicking himself.
I can't say anything. Oh my gosh. But yeah, it's
this. Again, it's just like I want them to succeed,
but it's just like tone that shit down. This
is not the independence. This is television.
More than likely, some father is trying to be
like, oh, my kid's here. Let's check out AEW.
I'm going to get my kid into wrestling. My mom
stopped. I wasn't allowed to watch Attitude Era.
I was not allowed. I wasn't. young i wasn't old
enough to like mentally remember the attitude
era but like once late attitude aggression or
attitude era into uh ruthless aggression my mom
stopped letting me watch wrestling because my
dad would let me watch the old ecw pay -per -views
he would tape them And like my dad was like a
techno genius, like late 90s, early 2000s. He
would he he would VCR pay -per -views that he
bought and he would he would have them all taped
up. We would watch them back. They'd be like
it'd be like 1997, like those pay -per -views
from ECW. And I went out and I just started like
chokeslamming kids on the playground at school.
And my mom stopped letting me watch wrestling
from 2003 or 2004 until about 2007. And then
once I was a little bit older and I wasn't a
jackass as a kid trying to fucking hurt kids,
then I started watching wrestling again. But
I missed so much of it. But my mom thought that
was violent compared to... It was just ruthless
aggression shit. She thought that... was worse
than you know she sees the shit i do now and
she's like what the fuck's wrong with you mine
was attitude era starting and them flashing their
tits on the camera when my mom's like no you're
not watching this you're not watching this um
and then i think i was 2002 2003 is when i finally
get back into it yeah like two and and at that
time my mom was just it was just the um it was
the Kane and Shane storyline oh with the balls
where the 18 wheeler apparently that was too
much and I'm like a guy running escaping a limousine
and driving into an 18 wheeler was too much but
like We're over here in ECW, you know, burning
people alive and, like, showing titties on TV.
I thought you were talking about the battery
where Shane took the one. No, I wasn't even watching
then because it was right after, like, Cane Unmasked
that I wasn't watching. I was, like, a little,
little bit, but, like, I stopped watching. I
think it was, like, 2004. I remember when the
Tesla, the car battery in the Tesla. Yeah, my
mom would have lost and shit on that one. Yep.
I want to go watch that back. Just be like, man,
I didn't see this as a kid. God damn. It's terrible.
It's great. He pisses himself. It's great. Like
I said, we had an extreme weekend. AEW ran. We
had three different pay -per -views. Of course,
all went to shit at one of them. oh no that was
back was that was no i'm sorry that was backlash
backlash is where all the shit went down right
with uh with uh seth rollins or was it no saturday
night's main event oh it was saturday night yeah
yeah no backlash was like back in like april
bro oh i was thinking about the like didn't they
do a pay -per -view last week everything They
did Saturday night's main event on Saturday.
They did a pay -per -view, took a week off, and
did another pay -per -view. It was about two
weeks. We had the shit with Goldberg that went
down, and then Seth Rollins getting hurt during
LA night's shit. At first, it just looked like
a gimmick, and then once you saw it finish, you
were like, yep. uh he up do you know that was
the exact same way that he hurt himself uh the
last time there there was a side -by -side video
i think i saw a tick -tock um it was him missing
it but he landed flat on his stomach um but then
the other one was The first time was Kane. He
did his set up. The very first time where he
fucked his knee up, it was doing the spot that
he always does where he does the What do you
want to call it? I can't remember what it's called,
but he rolls over their back to put them into
a powerbomb position to do the buckle bomb. Oh,
yeah, Finn Balor. Yeah, so he did that, and how
he landed, he fucked his knee up with Kane. It
healed, and then again, it was literally the
same spot that happened at the main event. the
same exact spot he did the the back miss and
fucking fucked his knee up if he ever like comes
back or he will come back he you will never see
him ever do it again yeah probably not probably
not but i guess and if he does it's because he
wants to end his career he's like he'll be like
you know what Ain't gonna leave, you know just
by leaving I'm gonna go out with a bang and he
just does that one flip So we so people have
already talked about it It's only eight seconds.
So I'm assuming If that so and we're putting
commentary I will fight it. Damn it. We are Every
buffer we can over this so he does the swanton
Yep. And you see how he lands right there. Yep.
That's what people thought. Yeah. So his leg
is underneath his other leg. And you can just
tell, as I put my hand in the exact wrong buttons
I want to hit. Okay. You can just tell that how
he lands is awkward and how he pops himself up.
You can see that his knee even gives out from
him trying to stand up. You can see it. I'm like,
I can't do this. Oh, I can do this. I can do
it slow. So he's getting up and his knee is buckling
right there. His other knee went bent all the
way in trying to cold himself up. Yeah. Oh, man.
So that's where the oh, this sucks. Whatever.
Yeah. And it's like. i don't think it was like
a huge problem it's like oh that felt weird probably
and then landed and then it's like oops but like
when you look at that it looks like a it doesn't
look like anything looks out of normal on the
landing at all it's just him grabbing it makes
it look like there's a problem even people were
saying like it's like oh i fucking hate this
spot why they're doing the spot where he does
some kind of bullshit and then people realize
like oh no he's actually hurt right because there's
there's no reason why if that was the gimmick
there's no reason why the bft just ends it but
like i would love to see how that communication
came to be In that moment where he's like, BFT
me. You don't see any communication at all. It
just happens. Well, it was to the ref. I guarantee
you. It was probably Seth Rollins telling the
ref, tell him to do his finish. Take it home.
And that was Jessica Carr, right? Yeah. Or even
could have been H out back. Yeah, he could have
just been yelling at me. Tell him to do the finish.
and go home here's the question who do you think
was supposed to be over in that match uh that's
the kicker who do you think it would make sense
well how much fucking la night i would say how
much more was there supposed to be interference
how much more was supposed to happen in that
match that never did because of that spot yeah
i would say I would say... There's a lot. Probably
some interference probably would have happened.
But how L .A. Nye has been treated lately, I
doubt that he would have went over. Which sucks,
because L .A. Nye is fucking awesome, and he's
just been on a losing streak. Yeah. I mean, before
Mania, right? Yeah, just one after another. And
then again, they're not really putting him in
in singles matches either. They're kind of just
shoving him into these multi -matches. But still.
it's like kind of ruins your uh your reputation
if you can just constantly fucking losing i mean
losing wins and losses don't really matter from
here and there but when you're just constantly
fucking losing it does matter because then it's
like what was with um uh gender mahal i think
it was who was like a losing streak and then
he they signed to saudi arabia and then all of
a sudden he was wwe champion imagine going from
3mb to being the world champion yeah i mean that
was i mean it happened with drew mcintyre but
still it was like it was it was a little ridiculous
the fact that it's like oh you've been you've
been basically a laughingstock for the last six
months and now you're wwe champion the same thing
the same thing like mb to i mean well drew left
and came back he left and came back he held the
championship during covid and then they tried
it again it's funny during covid with no one's
around he's the greatest but then when everyone
comes back as far as watching in person it's
like we're gonna barely give it to you by this
much yeah well him and punk was actually a good
storyline and then i like the uh with him and
um My kid is getting upset. I apologize. Damien
Priest. Damien Priest was doing well. I like
that stuff. Just a banter for a second. So, yeah.
Pretty much like you're shown with this injury.
This shit can happen to anyone. It does not matter
who it happens to. Anyone of any size. Anyone
doing any sort of acrobatic agility, any sort
of top rope, middle rope. It doesn't matter where
you are. I myself have literally just posed on
the second rope and have turned and jumped to
the apron or just jumped to the middle of the
ring and tweaked my ankle like 10 years ago.
it can happen to anyone and the fact that you
know somebody like seth rollins uh at the point
that he's at in this story where he's literally
has all of the power in wrestling You didn't
try to get educated on hard things. You knew
something was coming up. So, like, this sort
of thing happening to somebody like Steph is
probably, like, the worst case scenario because
he has all the momentum. He has money in the
bank. He can cash in whatever he wants. He has
this large group of people. On his side, he has
Brom Breaker, Bronson Reed. He has the wise man.
How many people has the wise man, Paul Heyman,
pretty much gotten over in this industry? You've
had Brock Lesnar, the biggest beast in pro wrestling.
You've had CM Punk, who, if you look back, Paul
Heyman didn't want to work with. anyone else
besides Brock Lesnar but the moment that Vince
McMahon was like CM Punk Paul Heyman was like
alright I'll see you Monday from CM Punk to Roman
Reigns Roman Reigns became the biggest star for
years and years and years coming off of you know
the dog gimmick the whole thing Seth had literally
everything in his hand and all it took was that
one flip. And he's probably out for, if he doesn't
need surgery, probably a couple months. If he
needs surgery, he's probably out for a year.
And at that point, it's like, what do you do
with the money in the bank? If everyone watched
Monday night, Paul Heyman made a good point.
He was like, he didn't say anything in detail
about his injury. He basically just said, that
i think it was june june of next year is when
the money in the bank expires that's how long
he has so like that could be a clear indication
that's like he'll be back before them but if
he's not what do they do with the money in the
bank do they give it out do they do they just
disappear go away with it or do they decide to
Put it up for grabs for somebody else and redo
rehash that whole entire storyline. Welcome back.
Sorry about that. The baby was getting really
fussy. I've been rambling. Well, the good thing
is that they have that faction of Seth Rollins
where he doesn't have to cash in right now. He
can be on TV and in the brace and just. posing
with him and um i think if it does come down
to where he has to cash it in bro i wouldn't
be surprised if he just holds it to gives it
to braun breaker or um imagine he goes out and
he cashes it in but then it's braun breaker and
bronson like beating the fuck out of whoever
like because it's probably in a scenario before
the bell rings right the bell fucking rings and
he has enough manpower or whatever to just put
drop whoever it is with no matter how severe
the injury is and fucking win or lose or he or
he just he comes out with either brawn breaker
or um the other guy you just said it bronson
reed bronson reed i don't know why i've always
had a problem with that and uh just hands in
the briefcase hands in the briefcase and says
win the title for me now go win the title for
me now but but Can they do that? He's technically
handing off the contract, so yeah. But then again,
think about it. Brock Lesnar won money in the
bank and he wasn't even in the fucking match.
You don't think they'll allow you to fucking...
Have you ever seen the Chris Van Vliet? Yes,
we talked about it, yes. Bro, imagine being in...
Ollie's position and just being like, yeah, so
you're going to climb up to the fucking thing
and you're just going to hold it. And you're
just not even going to grab it. You're just going
to stare. No, well... They don't... You can't
see it, but you can see it in the fan video where
he fumbles it while Brock is coming and taking
out a fucking camera guy. But then again, if
you watch, he had clear... And then it was after.
Yeah. it he he had there was no reason for him
to let go at all but no in the in if you're a
fan you will see this his music hits he's like
oh and then he fumbles it as brock is running
down and imagine if he didn't fumble it how pissed
vince would have been i always four wouldn't
even notice i always kind of wondered too if
john cena was supposed to win money in bank when
it broke bro i did i took this I do not think
he was supposed to. Just because of the reaction
of John Cena. He's like, oh! He hits Big Show
in the face with it. He goes, oh! Oh, I don't
think that was supposed to happen. At this point,
and I bet you they reinforced how they made those
brackets and how the carabiner clips. They don't
do it that easily anymore. Or when they put the
titles around for any title match, notice the
brass ring is like a giant fucking anchor size
because they know they're like, we ain't letting
this shit fucking fall. There's no way. Right,
exactly. I do have the video of Seth Rollins
talking about the knee injury. I'm just making
sure I got it. I peaked that. I didn't see the
whole thing. Yeah, he was on some show. I don't
know what show he was on. Yeah, I was like, how
random of a place to talk about that is some
random radio show, sports show. Why of all places,
that's where you... I don't understand how that
concept of communication works. Did they just
tell him, yeah, you can talk about it on this
show, but it's a show that no one's ever heard
of? I have no clue. like and then sometimes you
don't hear anything until it's on a chris van
vliet video right so yeah i have no clue what
the uh what what show he's on punk uh some podcast
that only has like two or three videos now uh
it was these two dudes from chicago and he did
like his whole return i think it was like that
was a great video it was a very great video but
like You don't hear that experience on any major
platform at all. I mean, granted, he hasn't done
a Chris Van Vliet one yet, but still. No, exactly.
Beneath this monitor, I do have a leg brace on.
Over in the corner are my crutches. This past
Saturday, I was in a match on Saturday night's
main event, which we special on NBC on Peacock.
I was in a match with LA Knight, and I hurt my
knee. I was doing a move that I do all the time.
It's a moonsault, a backflip. In this particular
instance, I was landing not on my belly, but
I was landing on my feet. When I landed, I felt
my knee kind of pop and buckle. We got out of
the match, and we moved forward. Monday, I was
in Birmingham, Alabama, where our specialists
are at. We tried to take a look at the knee through
some imaging. It was a little too swollen, so
we're going to take... another look hopefully
in a week or two here in la um to try to get
something some sort of firm diagnosis and then
we can go from there i am not a doctor i only
know my body and what i feel and what i feel
is that this is going to be me out for an extended
period of time You know, we were talking off
air earlier and it is a bummer, but look, it
is what it is. Our business moves on. This isn't
the first time that I've been injured. It won't
be the last time. And I, you know, I've, I've
always just got in the back of my mind. I'm like,
can I make it back for WrestleMania for WrestleMania
season for the whole thing? And so that that's
my brain always goes there. And I feel good about
that. Yeah. So. As of right now, there's still
no update with that MRI. They're just saying
that hopefully the MRI on Monday will provide
a clear picture. So hopefully he won't be out
for too long, but we'll see. Here's the thing.
I don't think he's actually getting the surgery
he needs. I think it's more of a... quick fix
like a lot of superstars do it's not like is
that a good idea well that's what i'm saying
it's keeps on getting fucked up the older he
gets the more those are gonna fall apart way
faster like i think ray like had to stop at one
point and get if like a full surgery and he was
out for over a year if i remember correctly with
uh he was either his knees or his neck i can't
remember where then if you finally had to say
like okay i have to get i have to I have to stop.
And he knew it while he was wrestling and then
remember Bray. Bray literally what was the main
event or it was a house show or whatever, knew
that something was wrong and then gone. Well,
he died I think what came out was something about
complications with sleep apnea or something like
that. In combination with his heart. yeah with
his heart but like he had the effects of that
in the ring like he knew there was something
his like last ever show he ever did that wasn't
televised was a house show and he i think he
was doing like a six -man tag or something like
that And he knew that something was wrong. He
said he was feeling lightheaded and something
was going on. And his in -ring performance, you
could tell something was wrong. And then when
he was done and he was leaving, there was a video
of him and you could tell that something was
fucked up. Well, it's the same thing with Eddie.
When Chavo talked about it, Eddie was going to
ask him something. And Chavo said, I think he
knew something was wrong and didn't want to worry
anybody. He's like, this is something's not right.
I'm not feeling right, but I'll just keep it
to myself. And sadly passes away the next night.
It's fucking depressing. I do love it though.
The Eddie is still kind of like in WWE memory.
Like people would still pray tribute to him.
Oh yeah. That because he was, he is, you know,
one of those people that, you know, while left
this world under terrible conditions. And didn't
choose to, like, with murdering his children
and his mother, I mean, his wife, and then hanging
himself. God damn, yeah. You know, in relation
to that, it was Kurt Angle recently was, like,
was asked a question being, like, when you highlight
your career, you know, how hard is it for you
to talk about that? And he goes, well, if I don't
talk about that, do I even have a career? Yeah.
he had a lot of good matches with well he even
discussed it because he said like it kind of
sucked that they erased him from wwe he's like
yeah everything that he's done with everyone
which means those those people those matches
don't exist yeah right jericho career's gone
right and they said like like what he did that
night was terrible Obviously, he was out of his
fucking mind. Like, who kills their family and
sticks around for fucking two days? Some people
still don't believe that it happened, that he
did it. Like, you know, go watch Darkseid. I
think it's hard because it's... And the person
that we may think that it's done is still living
alive and well. Well, the year that it happened
and where it happened, I think, is really hard
to know exactly. it was 2007 2007 and it was
in a town that never had that happen i had just
so going back to when not watching wrestling
um i didn't know eddie had passed away i didn't
know chris benoit passed away i started watch
going back into watching wrestling um this was
like jeff hardy randy orton feud right that's
when i i had no idea what had happened from like
oh the end of 04 to 07 the worst of the worst
so like that stuff i didn't know about that until
like years later like way after it's just it's
all sad like and and i think it was the It was
a lot of things with Chris because Nancy's sisters
talked about it. Yeah. And, like, how she talked
about him, like, towards the end of it, even
though she, like, I like to remember the good
stuff. Like, just her explaining of what was
going on, you could tell he had some kind of
CTE problem, whatever, taking roots home different
ways because he thought he was being followed,
switching gyms and stuff like that. But what's
funny is you can't detect CTE until after the,
or what they say is you can't, they don't find
out about CT until after you're passed away.
Right. And it's like, he, uh, he obviously have
is having issues. Like anyone, like nobody is
fucked up and right in their head, killing their
family and staying in that same house for days.
Even one day after knowing that you did that,
typically people don't do that. They just quickly
end themselves after the situation calmed down,
especially since he was trying to still book
flights to go back to the preview. I didn't realize
that. I thought he had done the off himself immediately.
I didn't realize it wasn't immediately. He offed
Nancy on Friday. and then Saturday he offed his
son, and then Sunday he offed his son. Did his
son ask questions? Because obviously they're
all in the house. No, it was just him, Nancy,
and Daniel. The other two were living with his
mother. So Daniel must have been like, where's
mom? Yeah, probably just told that mom was sick.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah it's just all fucked up
situation going back to it yeah current angle
saying like yeah not saying what he did was great
it's terrible but just not erasing him as you're
racing everything that i've done like all these
amazing matches that i've had that's the key
thing imagine anything happening bad to anyone
that we've ever worked with like i mean there
has been scenarios but like imagine having to
erase that history with anyone and then being
like oh yeah i did this in my career oh wait
never mind i don't want to be known for that
whoa excuse me i don't know where that bird fucking
came that came out of nowhere well trying to
get off the sad topic because yeah i don't know
why we went deep depression yeah and it's it's
hard to excuse me It's hard to talk about that
because I got to remember that I can do that
now. Yeah. Remember, you got to remember too,
that it's off and on and not just talk, sit there
and talk for half an hour and realize it's off.
It's just, yeah, it's just a sore subject to
talk about. Cause you know, the fans, like I,
I, I'm at this point, I'm pretty sure that he
did do it. Like just with the evidence or whatever,
but it's like, He had great matches. Piece of
shit thing to do at the end. Think about it.
You can never see the ending of... If WWE ever
made a compilation of every ending of every WrestleMania,
WrestleMania 20 will never be in history. WrestleMania
20 never existed. Randy Orton technically was...
They erased his first ever win because it was...
It was a Benoit? Yeah. Damn. They erased that
match of the title and winning the title, the
youngest winning it, because it was with Chris.
Imagine you have no Eddie celebration. You have
no championship celebration. Imagine if Chris
was around to win Money in the Bank. You know
how they do the statistics thing every year for
Money in the Bank? They wouldn't be able to do
that if Chris was ever involved in that shit.
Yep. They would just never be those. I'm a big
analytics type of person. I love watching statistics.
When I see those, it makes me happy, but those
would never exist if Chris was ever involved
in Money in the Bank. Actually, perfect example,
Rumble. You can't talk about what Rumble was.
I think it was 03. I think he won. 03 Rumble
doesn't exist, or whatever Rumble. It was early
2000s Rumble. It doesn't exist because Chris
Benoit won it. Right, exactly. He started entry
one. He did the HBK gimmick and started at one,
lasted all 30, and no one within the WWE can
talk about it. Yep. No one can ever say that
they lost or won. against chris benoit that's
so depressing anywho i don't know where we i
don't know how we got to that i don't know either
what kind of fucking trail did we go on i don't
know either i don't know either but uh holy shit
so what else we got to see though uh for uh main
event we got to see uh goldberg's last match
and maybe and uh maybe yeah big maybe There's
some controversy with that. I don't know if we
want to play the speech or not. I have it here.
It's like 10 minutes. I don't know if we want
to do that. For our sake, let's not. I haven't
heard it yet. I'm assuming it's just a thank
you, whatever. However, he's gotten the controversy
is during the interview with ronde uh not um
uh yeah i know who you're talking about i i can
never pronounce that man i have it i have ariel
horande i think is what his name is um yeah so
what's that well we'll go with that we'll go
with that ariel uh ariel holani i don't know
whatever i have it right here and i'm looking
at it and i can't pronounce it anyways so before
before we get into that we'll get into at least
a good thing that he had to say about like the
match there was a good thing yeah that was a
good thing thankfully um it was uh wrestling
gunther uh what his opinion was with that as
i'm trying to make it load I want to ask, as
a dance partner, as a guy who is one of the faces
of the company now, what do you think of him,
working with him for the first time? I just really
apologize. Number one, I clipped him once with
the right hand. And number two, man. Because
that never happens in wrestling. We never accidentally
punch each other in the fucking face. No, never.
You know, MEW Battle Royals, never. Absolutely.
No, absolutely not. I laughed when he chopped
me. i didn't know what to expect because you
know you you feel these chops throughout your
career a little bit and they're loud man it looks
like they hurt if they you know you look at the
skin and uh uh it leaves some good marks and
it it's devastating look it's a great work punch
right um but photo i thought i was gonna hurt
That's all. And it just startled me. And I didn't
mean to do that. And I really apologize because
I didn't mean to. That's not a rib. I'm not trying
to, you know, downplay his. I know he feels bad
for it, but it kind of works with his character
of how they built him to be like this kind of
like this. It makes sense in a way. Right. He's
the veteran oversize, you know, like I've. being
everybody in two minutes you know like nothing
can stop me like i feel like he should that's
the only he shouldn't really apologize right
move but it just it caught me off guard and and
i completely broke character it's a great photo
though that one that we just showed i do gotta
say though when gunther chopped punk the reaction
that punk gave was so fucking funny Oh, and that's
just Punk being Punk. He's like, oh my god, that
sucked. That's what I love about Punk is he's
just going to be completely honest. His entire
persona is literally being honest and he probably
was like, fuck, that sucked. I wonder if I can
pull that up while we're talking about it. Let
me play this more. My all -time favorite quote.
Carol, you're in remission. I don't even know.
It's not that. I mean, look at that. I mean,
I know. It's just I can't believe that I did
that. I feel so bad, man, because I love that
kid. And to be able to have my last match with
him, it was freaking awesome. The kid's extremely
talented. And, man, would I love to have a chop
fest with him and have ten more of those matches
because each one you do with him is better. It's
like having a match with Josh Barnett probably.
You don't have to worry about it. you know where
the punch is coming from what it's going to whether
it's going to be a punch or a knee or an elbow
or whatever it is it's just a barrage and that's
how steiner used to be and you know it was it
was an honor to work with the kid and i really
am appreciative of him uh helping me out and
making this old man look you know like he could
do some stuff So that was a good thing that he
had to say about compare compare Gunther and
Josh Barnett. Yeah, I don't know. No, but anyways,
go watch any George Barnett My favorite That's
genuine Phil Brooks. That's not like a gimmick
at all. That's Phil Brooks going, this guy fucking
sucks. So now we have to share what people are
talking about. And yeah, it's kind of Goldberg
kind of having a little bit of an ego, basically.
Ego? No. No. No, no. And perhaps shoot straight
with you. Bill, it feels like you're battling
mixed emotions here about everything, that it's
something that you're not quite sure how to feel
about in the immediate aftermath. Is that accurate?
Let's just say I'm pissed off at the way I went
out. I mean, because I put so much into it, and
I don't feel as though the effort was reciprocated
to put a stamp on. you know, what I accomplished.
Again, I'm not going to say that I'm not ecstatic
about the opportunity that I got, but, you know,
I was a WCW guy, man. I was, I don't know, man.
I don't know. I think it could be done, could
have been done a little bit differently. That's
all. And I'm happy with my performance. I'm happy
with, you know, the setting. you know but could
it have been better absolutely it can always
be better um and i know you mentioned this two
-week thing but i'd be remiss if i don't ask
what specifically could have been done differently
could you tell us that well there's about a hundred
things i did three interviews beforehand ariel
i did three right in six months you know uh it's
just it would they cut me off 30 seconds into
my speech bro I mean, you don't do that. But
it's not their fault. Yeah, they're on public
television. They're on NBC. This wasn't Netflix.
This wasn't a pay -per -view. If this was Netflix
or a pay -per -view, they would have done the
whole thing right live. And again, you can go
on their YouTube and you can watch the full fucking
thing. Which there's probably more views of it
there than there were people watching the show
on TV. Right. I don't know how many views are
on the video, but I imagine it's more. Oh, I
mean, I can tell you right now. I have it pulled
up. 1 .2 million. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Well,
I mean, probably at the time there probably was.
Actually, no, we don't have Dylan next to do
to do, you know, to be report. Yeah. Next report.
But 1 .2 million on Saturday night. You have
to think about it. You're on public TV. You're
also on NBC. A lot different from Netflix and
USA. There's a lot more people on an NBC network.
You can go long. Probably can go long on Netflix.
You have a time slot. You don't notice how pissed
the company gets when AEW goes long all the time.
And then you're out here with Raw being only
two and a half hours every week. I watch Raw
religiously every Monday Night Live. Things get
cut. Things have to get cut. It's two and a half
hours flat. With commercials, two and a half
hours. And like Jim Cornette, I know he talks
about that all the time. He had that shit down
to a T. Like, okay, we need to cut this. We need
to make this shorter or whatever. Of course,
that's his mascot. Just had to fall. Just saying
that, too. No offense to Goldberg, but Goldberg
isn't really... He is a giant star, but he's
not involved in WWE that much. No, he still gets
a pop and stuff like that. I'm not really...
Yeah, from this percent of people. He still sold
tickets and stuff. I can understand that. I understand
why they put the belt on him. They could have
sold that whole show out without him. Yes, I
understand that. I've been a Goldberg hater since
fucking early 2000s. I didn't like how they put
the belt on him when he was a part -timer. I
think that him putting the belt on him and Brock
killed the WWE Championship until... Would you
say the same for Roman Reigns now? No. No? No.
Because Roman was on TV almost every single week.
Even though he wasn't defending it. Where everyone
could only watch from home. No, well, COVID was
more... I feel like with COVID, that kind of
helped out a little bit with Drew. I think Drew
actually... COVID and Drew and COVID elevated
them, but then the same thing with Roman, and
not when it was empty crowd, but it was the fucking
wall, the wall of fans. Speaking of Chris Benoit,
do you know how many people fucking did that?
You know how many people did some really more
fucked up shit? I won't say it, but let's just
say Chris Benoit was like, minor compared to
what other shit is there's a reason why people
kept on getting in and out of those fucking shows
there's a reason why people were actually like
literally blipping out live yeah bro because
they were fucking they knew what opportunity
i don't know how sitting in a meeting being like
yeah nothing can go wrong with having people's
faces on camera on screen to have complete control
of their computer and put up any image that they
want Literally anything. And I guarantee you
to this day, whatever you watch on the network
or wherever all this stuff is stored, there's
something very obscure or very like not PG. It's
still there. No, I guarantee you they paid somebody
to sit there with every camera angle and fucking
blur out. anyone's tv that they had but you have
to think you imagine us in that job where you
have to sit and there how many people how many
people they fit in there thousands there had
to been thousands i don't know i knew i i they
only say the hard cam side and half of like no
They didn't fill the arena. They only filled
what was needed for their camera shots. Hard
cam and maybe half a commentary side. Anywhere
where the camera changed, they had it. They had
1 ,500 to 3 ,000 TVs there. But imagine one set
of... I tried to get on it. I don't know how
many times. That was the only time in wrestling
where willingly I did not actually... You were
free. It was free. It was free to get on there.
I never knew that. I remember just peeking at
it. So during that time of the era of wrestling,
I stopped watching completely. I had no interest,
no desire in watching pro wrestling. I don't
know why. And you have to think this is 2020.
I'm at that point five years into my pro wrestling
career. I'm at the point where. The only thing
other than WWE to watch at that time in wrestling,
because there's no other wrestling around. Imagine
having no other wrestling around and not wanting
to watch WWE. What do you watch for wrestling?
That's current. The only thing that was going
on, which is currently happening live right now
as I speak, ICW No Holds Barred. That was the
only thing that I watched, but I didn't watch.
I came back around the Cody era. When Cody came
back, that was when I started watching on a regular
weekly basis. The whole fans in the crowd thing,
I only just saw the memes. I only just saw the
fucking jokes. I tried to get on so many times.
I imagine the queue was bigger than how many
people fit in a regular arena. This is what would
happen. you would sit at the screen and you'd
refresh it fucking like like minutes before getting
on you just kept on refreshing and then eventually
you'd get into uh you may or may not be on on
and so you're staring at a black screen but so
many people were doing it uh you were just staring
at what do you see well if you weren't on you
probably wouldn't know but like what do you end
up actually i assume you saw what everybody saw
on tv just that your face was there That's what
I'm assuming. Imagine it being a POV of wherever
your screen was. Like, to the ring. Like, being
there in person. If they had cameras on every
LED board. See, that would be dope as fuck. That
would be fucking great. I'm assuming it was just
a camera angle of everybody. I'm assuming you
just got to watch it for free. That's what I'm
thinking. It just probably had a screen that
was like, you're live on Monday Night Raw. But
yeah, that'd be dope if every single TV had a
webcam where you got to see it from there. That'd
be dope as shit, but I think it's just the camera.
There was something... The debut Raw Netflix.
I don't know what company did it or if it was
Netflix themselves. The Super Screens? No, it
was... You could view... Oh, it was because of
the arena they were in. They had webcams or cameras
built into every single fucking seat, so you
could literally view the entire arena from any
angle. Hmm. So there's a picture montage somewhere.
I don't know where the hell it's at. I didn't
even know that was even there. I know we're getting
off topic, but this is fascinating. Totally off
topic, but I don't give a shit. Welcome to Off
Topic Per Sessions. My name is J .P. O 'Reilly.
This is Big Cat. On this episode, somebody had
posted it. I don't remember what it was, but
there was a picture montage, and you could view
the entire arena. from any visible seat that
you could see but this was the la venue that
they were in that la venue where you see those
little light if you watch monday night raw when
they did it or pay -per -view they had those
little lights on each side of the chairs um whatever
venue that they do in la they have like cameras
built into each chair so they're on the debut
monday night raw there was like this picture
montage of You can see every angle. I don't remember
what the still shot was. It might have been Rollins
and Pong main event, but you could see every
angle from any seat. That is dope, but did you
see... I don't know if they do it for every show,
but there is a... I'm assuming it's going to
be expensive. There is a kind of like an IMAX
theater where they have cameras set on the pay
-per -view. I've seen this for a couple of them.
I think it was in Texas, Austin, Texas, they
had it, where you can go see it. I'm assuming
it's going to be expensive, but it's literally
a dome. Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, it's in Vegas. It's a dome, and you sit
down, and it's like you're at the show. U2 does
a lot of concerts in that venue. I think it's
in Vegas. It's like the sphere or something.
You have the sphere thing, but then there's also
another venue that has a dome thing that you
watch. It's dope as shit because it's literally
like you paid for the tickets and you're there,
but it's a dome. You're not in person. You're
sitting there like you paid for a seat for a
pay -per -view and it's literally that set camera.
You see everything. It's fucking cool as shit.
Anyways, back to this. Back to more Goldberg
shit. But we kind of, actually before we get,
we kind of glossed over it. I wasn't a fan of
him winning the titles. I think it diminished
it. I completely understand. Yeah. But the Goldberg,
I don't think it has the weight it did it like
years ago with him and Brock were still in it.
So, but that's just my opinion. No, I totally
understand. It's all good. Do you think that
was their call or the network's call? I think
it doesn't matter because it's live television
and you can plan for it. That's all. That's all.
So, and I know it is what it is. And, you know,
the match might have gone long and this and that
and whatever it is. But, you know, I just think
that it could have been a little classier. than
it was. And I'll just say, and that's a mild
understatement. I just, yeah, man, come on. Come
on, man. By the way, did they know that you were
going to speak afterwards? Was that part of the
plan? Oh, yeah, 100%. Okay. But I never heard
I was going to speak for like 28 seconds. Right.
It is what it is, man. It is what it is. I got
the opportunity to speak for 28 seconds. How
did you react when you went backstage and realized
that it got cut off? Because I'm sure in the
moment you think that this is airing across the
world, right? I don't care. It's not worth me.
I don't care, but I'm bitching about it. It's
not worth me. I'm not going to snuggle over it
by any means. I've had an opportunity to have
it for 28 seconds. Not many people get that.
But it's just, you know, everything throughout
the years have... built up to something like
man the ultimate rib i guess that was the ultimate
rib you think you think that was intentional
you think that was that was done it was a rib
are you sure buddy it was a rib to cut dude you're
on public television why would you be on public
television this that would be a very vin speck
man thing to do but not in the paul of that era
late it would be a rib if they didn't post the
whole fucking speech on their youtube channel
literally if you had to go find it like on twitter
or something from a fan i can stand made fucking
camera right i can understand that but it's there's
time slots you're on nbc this is not netflix
this is not a pay -per -view but just and like
like we said this before you're probably gonna
get more views on youtube than people sitting
at home oh yeah that's when you told me 1 .2
million yeah i i feel like there's probably more
people that saw the youtube video than they then
they were watching live like waiting even if
that's what they're anticipating And I wouldn't
be surprised if Peacock had that put in for 10
minutes. Peacock probably had it rolling the
whole time. So I don't know if you watch Monday
Night Raw on a regular basis or not. So on Netflix.
So on Raw Netflix, if you're in the US, you get
commercials. If you are international, you get
to watch. All the fucking time. Yeah. I get commercials
all the fucking time. It's annoying as shit.
If you're in Canada or if you have a VPN and
watch from. a different country um you get to
see everything that is happening in between whatever
segments that are on tv they are usually filling
that with promos i missed all the promos for
wrestlemania because of that and because it was
so bad all that i end up seeing it on tick tock
later on because i watch uh wrestler react videos
like from certain people like sandy's app like
guys like that That's the only way that I can
see what happens in between commercials because
they post them when they happen because no one
in the US, which is all of their large audiences,
don't get to see it. Like I said, it's not just
Netflix. It's Peacock as well because like I
said, every fucking... The WrestleMania, the
promos is the best thing of the fucking show
besides the mat. It gets you invested into it.
They're taking a story that could be shit, and
they're cutting it into a promo package that
gets you ready for it. I don't know how many
times they've done that with a storyline that's
kind of like, meh, but then you get that nice
fucking promo package that they worked on, and
it's like, oh, all this makes me want to watch
this match better. They cut it every fucking
time on Peacock for a commercial, and I got to
see no fucking promos at all. Everyone in the
US can see what you're talking about, but that's
literally less than half of the fucking world
at that point. Right. On purpose. I'm not saying
it was done on purpose by any stretch of the
imagination. I'm saying that it wasn't prepared
for on purpose. That's all. They wouldn't do
that to Taker, right? I don't think. They're
not going to do that to Cena. Cena's going around
the world doing his... It would have happened
to anyone. It does not matter if you were...
I hate to break it to you, Goldberg. I hate to
break it to you. Cena is a bigger star than you
are. I'm sorry. Way bigger star. But... If it
was Cena versus Gunther in that scenario and
this was... Think about... Okay, actually...
Now we have to think about this because... It
still would have been the same thing with Cena.
Cena's last match is technically going to be
scheduled for Saturday night main event. You
can't... What are they going to do? Are they
going to fucking cut the match at fucking 10
.30? Like it ends at 10 .30 and then give him
like a half hour speech? Or do they fuck him
and just not even give him any time at all? You
can't put him on set. First off, I know it's
in Boston, but why would you want that to be
your last? Especially if you probably won't have
the time to do a speech. To do a Saturday night
main event as your last ever match. Because I
don't think it is. But I thought he was saying
it, but like... Everybody is saying that, but
like I said, I'm pointing this out again. They
said the same fucking thing for Cena versus Rock.
This is a once -in -a -lifetime match you will
see. This will never happen again. And they were
already planning for WrestleMania, the next WrestleMania.
So I highly doubt... that cena is not go i guarantee
you that either one one or two things are gonna
happen either he's gonna lose the belt the last
show and demand it at wrestlemania the one that
he he does or he's going to carry it and something's
gonna happen with either with cody or what where
he's gonna basically make him come back for one
more match I know how you and I would do these
prediction things, the fantasy booking things
in past podcasts. This is one of those scenarios
right now where I can't predict what's going
to happen by the end of the year with Cena's
last match, let alone what the hell is going
to happen on Monday Night Raw this week at this
point because so many things are fucked. We're
in July, so we got August, September, August,
September, October, November, December. I can't
predict SummerSlam at this point because there's
so many matches that I'm like, what the hell
happened? It's SummerSlam that's two nights.
This is essentially WrestleMania in the summertime,
the way that they're booking this. I just saw
on one of the Facebook posts I follow that it's
going to be Solo and Jacob for the US title at
WrestleMania in a steel cage. So we're getting
a steel cage at SummerSlam. Sorry. Yeah. Steel
cage match at SummerSlam. You got the Jelly Roll,
Randy Orton and Logan Paul fiasco. Then you have.
Which I tried to clip and I couldn't clip, which
is fucking irritating. Yeah, you have like seen
and seen us doing something, but I don't even
think that's even announced whatever he's doing
yet. Yeah, I have no clue. This past Saturday
night's main event was the first pay -per -view.
Do you call it a PLE? Technically, it was. Even
though it's on public access cable? This is the
first PLE that Siena did not compete on this
year. Yeah, I'd say technically it was a PLE
because it was on Saturday. It was not on their
normal schedule. Even though it was on public
access cable. Right. So it was a premium live
public access television exclusive. Right. What
a fucking jumble of abbreviations. Yeah. Retirement
thing. You know, mine was just the world heavyweight
championship match. And to be honest with you,
I mean, and I'm going to catch hell for it. I
don't care. It was a world heavyweight. Dude,
I had world heavyweight. matches all the time
that doesn't do anything for me i mean i mean
it does but so this didn't mean anything to him
is what he's world heavyweight championship doesn't
mean anything to him the one or fucker oh fucking
undefeated streak is like a higher tier than
a world fucking championship like what i mean
i mean i I know people have forgotten that they
basically made this title because they couldn't
get it off of Roman Reigns, but still, the championship
kind of means something. It's the second highest
title in the company. Totally off topic, and
I sincerely apologize for this, but I don't know
why this is the first thing that popped up, but
we got Blippi in WWE before GTA 6. It's hard
to see on this camera. But, like, I don't know
why this is the first thing that popped up, but
what the fuck is happening right now? Every single
time I hear Blippi, the only thing I can think
of is the Harlem Shake. Why the Harlem Shake?
Oh, you haven't seen that video? I don't think
I have, no. Oh my god. After the podcast, you
type in Blippi in Harlem Shake, it'll probably
take you a while to find it because they wiped
that shit off the internet. I have like three
black market sites that I can look up. But I
guarantee you, you'll probably be looking at
Blippi in a different thing because Blippi was
trying to do everything he could to be famous
at one point. He was trying way too hard. Yeah,
to a point where he might have done. Miss Rachel
didn't even have to try, but Blippi out here
was like fucking fighting for war. It's so graphic
that I can't explain it on YouTube. You think
I'm kidding. Oh, yeah, that's true. But look
it up. I'll remind you after the podcast to see
if you can find it, and I want to get your reaction
to it. Oh, man, I'm going to live react. I'm
just going to send a video live almost, and I'll
be like, what? Oh, no. I'm scared. He wiped that
off the fucking internet, and it surfaces up
from time to time. Oh, no. Just think of it that
way. Anyways, finishing this shit. Make it different
than just an angle, at least, at the end. Do
something. Say something. I don't know. It just
felt a little angst for me. That's all. That's
it. And like I said, man, I'm not here to bitch
and moan because I don't do that. You're bitching
and moaning now! You asked me a question and
I'm answering. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Holy fuck,
dude. I think that was a trigger. I feel like
whoever listened to that lost their fucking shit
and punched their fucking screen when they heard
that shit. And they're like, are you fucking
kidding me? Right. I'm not bitching or moaning
or anything, but here I am sitting 10 minutes
into this fucking podcast bitching and moaning
about, oh, I didn't get to have my farewell speech.
Fuck out of here, you fucking. Go back to the
retirement home. So Sam Roberts, who used to
be, used to be ONA, used to be the intern and
the producer for ONA. He has his own show now.
He used to ran it with Jim Norton. But now, like
I said, he's doing solo, but he's always been
into WWE. He has a 20 -minute talk about that.
I cut it down to six, I think. But he explains
it like kind of how everybody else feels. He
explains how everybody feels, and I 100 % agree
with his point right here. But I don't know if
there's anybody in wrestling that makes it more
difficult to support them than Bill Goldberg.
Like, try as I might, he just gets out there
and does whatever he can to make sure that if
you wanted to support him as a wrestling fan,
not just as a Goldberg fan, but as a fan who
loves the whole spectrum of professional wrestling.
If you're that type of fan who loves it all and
who has loved it all for years, Goldberg, it
seems like he does everything in his power to
make sure that you can't support him no matter
how much you want to. Goldberg, like, saying
that he's pissed off about how the match went.
And how the retirement went, you know. And he
kind of got further into it where he was upset
that his speech got cut off. And he wouldn't
go as far as to say the WWE cut off his speech.
But it was implied that this was a thing that
either they did on purpose or they didn't care
about. To come off of that match and go... Well,
I wish it was on a PLE, not Saturday night's
main event. It's like, dude, it was in Atlanta
for you. It was all the whole Saturday night's
main event was basically the Goldberg show. It
was based around Goldberg. And somehow he's able
to find a negative. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
This show's about you, basically, and we're going
to bitch and moan about it. By the way, I found
the Harlem Shake video. You found the Harlem
Shake video? I'm sending it to you so I can get
you a live reaction to it. Oh, we're getting
live reactions. Don't play the audio and mute
your mic. I just want to see your face as I'm
playing this. What are you sending it to? Somehow,
he's able to be a victim. of a circumstance that
makes absolutely no sense and what drove me crazy
about this was not only does this come across
to me and i don't know bill goldberg i'm sure
he's a lovely man you know but what's what's
nuts about this is that number one it comes across
as a man who is hell -bent on being wronged like
there has to be some way that he was wronged
there has to be something here that somebody
did against him. There's a, there's a, and you
hate to say, cause you don't look at Goldberg
and feel this way, but that's, it's a victim
mentality. Like you don't, to not look at that
moment and go, this was about as perfect a retirement
as someone like Goldberg could, could, could
ask for. And he goes, well, they're not. Yeah.
Especially for like the popularity of like, as
we just said for the, he's, he's not really in
WWE anymore. Yes. He's still a WWE legend, but
I don't see how WWE, You know, kind of fucked
him with it. They gave him like gave him interviews.
They put him in the main event. They made the
event about him. It's in Atlanta. And yeah, so
it's just fucking crazy to have that type of
negativity to, you know, all they could just
could have done better. Not going to. They didn't.
John Cena gets a whole year. It's like, yeah,
bro, you're Goldberg, but you're not John Cena.
And he goes, they wouldn't do that to Undertaker.
Yeah, but you know what they did to Undertaker
in one of his last matches? They made him wrestle
Goldberg, and it was terrible. Yeah, it was.
That's what happened as Undertaker was wrapping
up his... Okay, I gotta pause it for a minute.
JP, how you doing? My eyes have been taping.
The audio listeners cannot understand the horror.
So how do you feel about Blippi now? I will never
watch that shit ever again. Just your face. I
witnessed that for the first time with me, and
we both had the same reaction while sitting here
watching. I know. Your face is like, oh my god.
I was like, at first I didn't see what had happened.
I just saw the sensor bar. I didn't realize what
was happening beyond the sensor bar. And I was
like, no. No. He was trying to get famous. He
definitely did. Was this before Blippi? Yes.
This is when he was trying to get famous. I feel
like Hannah's over here trying to research him.
Which is the reason why he basically, it only
pops up here and there. He's blacklisted it.
Why would they be okay? He took the video down.
So clearly none of these TV networks know anything
about that. Nope. He took it down and he actually
paid for people. You better go to Archive to
find it. That's what I'm like. What the hell
am I doing on Archive? I use Archive for fucking
for ROMs. I don't use Archive for anything else
but ROMs. Literally try to blacklist it from
the internet. Archive will always have your entire
mistakes. Anywhere. Surprise, the Epstein files
aren't on archive. Anyways. What are you talking
about? They don't exist anymore. Oh, yeah, that's
right. They never happened. We should just move
on like a country and just pretend it never happened.
Sorry, I watched Shane. Yeah, I know. What the
fuck is happening? Anyways, back to Goldberg.
career. And he didn't complain about it. He didn't
go, oh, I was wrong. He went, wow, that didn't
work. Yeah, that match was so fucking terrible.
Undertaker and Goldberg. Oh my god, yeah, it
was. Well, come to find out, Goldberg gave himself
a fucking concussion before he freaking hit the
ring. You can see, he was bleeding from, he headbutted
the door. And then gave himself a second concussion
from hitting the ring post. jesus fucking christ
and again why like why would you do that yeah
i don't i don't know like they do say takers
like takers and i should have known it's like
yeah i should have known i was like how did you
not know you should have scrapped everything
that would have been like controversially wrong
You should have just completely scrapped anything
to that head at that point. Tombstone changes
to a chokeslam. It just reminds me of Bully Ray
when he got knocked the fuck out from Jericho
in their ladder match. And Jericho had to literally
coach him through everything. He's like, oh,
hit your finish. He's like, what's my finish?
He's like, you gotta do this. Wasn't it Kurt
Angle too with Triple H and Yes, and Stephanie.
Yeah. He got concussed and then he got carted
away, but the cart away was a gimmick. But it
was legitimately hurt. The cart was part of the
fucking thing. It was legitimate. Yeah, that
was part of the show. But he was legitimately
fucked. And he came back and he goes, what am
I doing? Yeah, and Stephanie had to fucking help
him with that one. Well, it was the same thing
as Miz when Miz took that bump off the floor
with Cena. Side note. I thought for the first
time ever that Miz was out on injury. I didn't
realize it was doing a TV bet or some sort of
movie or TV. If you think about it, and I was
completely sidetracked, The Miz is the longest
tenured wrestler that has not been injured. Because
of that reason. Because he gave his body a break.
But at this point, I feel like the way that it's
going for Dominic Mysterio at this point, he
may be second running at this point because he
hasn't wrestled a match since Mania. Yeah. What
keeps getting hurt? It's a gimmick, bro. Is it
really a gimmick? Are you sure? Bro. Okay, so
you... I forgot. You don't watch Mania. I just
raped everyone's ears with that fucking microphone.
Sorry. Raw, he, since Mania, has been... Oh,
that's right. The Doctor's Note. Okay, yes. Doctor's
Note. That's a gimmick, bro. Yes. But he's been
doing that since Mania, and I saw a meme yesterday
or today that was like, man... they are really
protecting the fucking shit out of Dom right
now to make sure he doesn't get hurt. Because
after what happened with Seth, they're like,
nah, we can't lose this prize jam right now.
There's no way. They were chanting Dirty Dom
to the point that he was the heel. And the heel
was being out cheered by ball baby faces the
entire mania. And then when he won, that was
a louder pop than Cena. Yep. Yep. So once they
realized that, they went, we got to hold this
baby and we cannot drop this baby on its goddamn
head. The thing that really, though, drove me
crazy about this was Goldberg sitting there.
and he's talking about everything that he did
everything that he did and why didn't i get this
why i didn't get back as much as i put in i didn't
get i didn't get i didn't get all goldberg got
from wrestling was getting and getting and getting
yeah i mean how many go back to the beginning
of goldberg go back to william regal being in
a ring with goldberg And just allowing, go back
to Haku being in a ring with Goldberg. And the
thing is, like, you see a lot of those posting
on Instagram and TikTok. Those matches with Goldberg
where actually Goldberg had to wrestle. Oh, my
God, they're bad. Oh, they're terrible. They're
bad. They're really bad. Early 2000s Goldbergers
are drizzling shits, bro. Yeah. Fucking, like.
I see why they try to keep it with just the spear
and the fucking jackhammer because any offense
that he did, oh my God, he was botching the shit
out of people. He's legit fucking them up. The
amount of times that I sat here in my living
room and had complained about Goldberg being
on TV during this Gunther segment, you can ask
Hannah. I was literally just sitting here being
like, go fucking home. Go to the retirement home.
We don't want to watch a... ding ding ding spear
jackhammer spear jackhammer spear jackhammer
one two three match i don't want to fucking see
it we already saw that with roman numerous fucking
times i don't want to see it with fucking goldberg
a fucking 58 god whatever it is he's in the late
50s at this point early 60s i don't know there's
no reason this is the same thing with the fucking
sting scenario in wwe they made sting look like
He was in his beyond the years of age that he
is now. But AEW actually made him look like he
was almost in prime. If anything, the only thing
AEW did right was make Sting look strong. WWE
made Sting look like shit. Goldberg will always
look like shit. bell -to -bell promotions does
this mean i'm i have no life i'm the only one
that watching you too there's people coming in
and out no there's people coming in now and listen
we appreciate yeah we do your viewing yeah it
does not mean you have no life it means that
you are enjoying yourself amongst the two of
us in our, you know, wrestling. Do you know how
this is supposed to be a quick one where we go
fucking... Yeah, we're supposed to play some
games. I'm sitting here with my laptop open with
Master Chief. We're almost done. And I'm just
like, I'm ready to fucking game, but like, God,
we keep going all the directions right now. All
of these veterans. Yeah. Go ahead. Getting in
a ring with Goldberg and allowing... Goldberg
to smash them in mere minutes. All these people,
if you look through Goldberg's history, all these
people in this wrestling business gave to Goldberg
so that Goldberg could be this star because they
knew that, look, he was going to be capable of
being the star. He was going to draw the attention.
He was the one that could get the eyeballs on.
He was the one that could do all this. Yes. But
everybody, the whole business bent over backwards.
To make sure that Goldberg was in the position
that he could deliver on this level. And to get
to this point in life and not look back on that
and go, man, I had an incredible career. And
I've got a list of about 400 people that I have
to say thank you to. I have a list of all these
people that made it possible. I have, it could
be a thousand people. That made sure and that
put me in this position. And there's no way,
there's no way that I'd be even close to the
position that I'm in right now. Had it not been
for all these people. And so now to come forward
and like not really acknowledge much of that
and go, I'm pissed off is what he said. About
the way it. his retirement went, when it literally,
I watched that retirement going, it couldn't
have gone better. And to go like, well, it could
have been on a PLE. Well, how, I mean, there's
this like disease of more. What if it had been
a little bit, was it great? Yeah, then we're
done then. We're done. It was great. Your son
got to see you. Your wife got to see you. Your
friends got to be there. You put on a hell of
a performance that's going to do a lot. What's
that? His son almost got pushed on his fucking
ass, dude. You saw that shit, right? Yeah, I
did. But to erase some other performances that
were not as good, and I think that was the goal.
You get to put that match with your speech that
everybody saw because it was on, because WWE
has this insane social media platform. Everybody
saw it. And instead you're like, whoa. Could
have been just on Peacock, not on NBC. Goldberg
could say, well, yeah, but me showing up is benefiting
you. And it's like, yes, that's true. But that's
only because of how much the business benefited
you going in. It is a reciprocal thing. And to
live life in a way where you're not cognizant.
of how much you have as opposed to the little
that you don't have is just crazy to me. Yeah,
and I actually didn't mean to, but I cut where
he talked about basically the same thing we did.
It's on network television. Everything is slotted.
Yeah, of course it's only going to have 30 seconds.
WWE was going to put the whole post on their
fucking social media. Why are you bitching? And
more people viewed it. Yeah. That's the shitty
part. Hopefully, I can show this without getting
cut, but we saw Jelly Roll and Randy Orton on
Jimmy Kimmel Live. Randy and Drew look like they're
giving each other actual shots. Jelly Roll was
trying to go to commercial break. Logan Paul
comes in and starts talking to shit. um smacks
him which we're gonna see which was actually
was apparently was a receipt because jelly roll
fucking knocked him or a good one on monday night
or or um saturday night one of the i'm trying
to think i'm like i don't remember him ever when
he actually punches him he actually when he He
actually threw and hit him. He's been at the
performance. Did you hear? Yes, I heard that.
He's been at the performance center for four
weeks. Four weeks or four months, something like
that. Dude, four months living in the fucking
performance center. Having Taker and his wife
come in and actually coaching him, that's a drink
of true fucking shit like that. Anyways, we get
to see a little bit of little bit of this. Hopefully,
like I said, it won't fucking hate me for it.
Prison rat. And that was a legit slap and got
him fucking good. Roll that back real quick.
Roll that back real quick. Prison rat. I think
he was serious. Like, what the fuck did you just
say? I think he was being like that. Here's a
receipt stupid This was on Jimmy Fallon crack.
Yeah. Yeah, so I think that like I said, I know
Jimmy Kimmel He has to do a little bit of banter
here because it looks I think jelly roll is like
fucking shit that hurt And then... Well, imagine
Bunny's reaction. I don't know if you follow
Bunny at all. No. She is very hypersensitive
when it comes to Jelly Roll's emotions. Like,
as husband and wife, like, she is a very emotionally
expressive person. So if she was in the room
when that happened, I could imagine the amount
of frustration that it took. to not because she
doesn't i know she doesn't understand the concept
of what's real and what's not but like because
if you watch monday night raw from this past
week or the week before saturday night main event
you see her while uh jelly rolls performing and
gets interrupted she looks like she like she
was genuinely going to jump the bear king Fucking
crisp. Granted, they could have done a regular
fucking table. I guarantee you that was a fucking
breakaway table. Oh yeah, 100%. And I imagine
that fucking hurt more than a regular table.
Logan was not center on that table a lot. That
fucking hurt. But that hurt a lot. He ran an
all upper bod. Us as wrestlers, that upper neck
bumps are the worst. I bet that fucking hurt
like a motherfucker. That shit fucking sucked.
You want to land fucking square back? You sometimes
question yourself when you take those upper neck
bumps because you go, did I just break something?
Did I just fuck up my body? Did I just hurt myself?
What did I do? that's why i don't like germans
i i take the germans and i'm like did i die i
like that and i used to take them from ricky
williams that's a short stocky little man like
granted i was a little bit smaller too but like
taking a man from a from a short size it's scary
as hell Yeah. And kudos to fucking WWE. No offense
to Bad Bunny. Fuck Travis Scott. But people know
who Jelly Roll is. So people are fucking into
it. There was a video that I had saw recently
on TikTok or somewhere. that the people they
were like has anyone noticed that Travis Scott
has not been a part of anything since Mania and
they said because they sent Travis Scott to the
performance center the same way that they sent
Jelly Roll to the performance center and Travis
Scott was basically not getting the concept of
how pro wrestling works he was not it wasn't
the physicality of everything it was the mentality
of i don't think homeboy sorry i don't know what
the just happened i don't think homeboy understood
the mentality of wrestling being fake right i
don't think he understood he thought maybe he
thought that was real maybe he didn't think that
was real like i don't know but he was not they
they haven't put him on tv Since, I mean, that
Mania shit was a fiasco. That shit was bad. The,
whatever he did on Elimination Chamber? Yeah,
Elimination Chamber. Yeah, he socked a fucking
Cody. He socked a fucking Cody? That was, like,
he hasn't gotten the grass. Yeah, since WrestleMania.
Yeah, so that's why we haven't seen him, and
I guarantee you we won't see him at SummerSlam.
Even at whatever John Cena's involvement with
SummerSlam is, we won't see him because I think
Jelly Roll is going to over... He's going to
overstand everything. I would actually love to
see Jelly Roll and actually maybe a full -time,
if not part -time, role into wrestling if he's
continuing on with the Performance Center. As
much as I would love to see it. the way that
I've seen it. Think about it. Think of Bad Bunny.
Bad Bunny did the same thing that Jelly Roll
is doing now. How long has it been? It's been
like two years. But Bad Bunny wasn't as popular.
That's the thing. Nobody knew who the fuck Bad
Bunny was. Worldwide he wasn't, but where they
did it and where he was, it was like how Jelly
Roll is here. I guess so. Go watch that entrance,
the fucking whatever. I don't know what Peely
it was. The Puerto Rico Peely. They pop so loud.
If SummerSlam isn't in Nashville, but if SummerSlam
was in Nashville or the Titans fucking stadium.
that crowd would be even louder than when they
were in porter i forget what fucking ple it was
it was a it was an extreme rule what the fuck
was it it was an earlier in the year pay -per
-view too it was before it was a before mania
baby it was him against uh damien priest damien
yeah i just don't remember what pay -per -view
it was was it rumble maybe i can't i can't remember
but like that pop was like insane compared to
when Jelly Roll, I feel like Jelly Roll will
do this and that'll be it because he probably
had some big shit going on with tours and all
that shit. Look at how much fucking weight he...
I don't know if you've ever followed Jelly Roll.
He's lost 200 pounds. He looks like he lost more.
Do you know what kind of started it off? Bert
Kreischer. Yes, it was the... It was the marathon
run. He took a bunch of guys that are overweight
and they ran a marathon for cancer. That's right.
That's what started all this shit. I think they
did it again this year. I think he went on Ozempic
on top of everything else. working out obviously
the performance center was fucking helping the
shit out and they completed and then and he completed
a marathon my question is two what does jelly
roll come out to as far as music and what the
fuck does he wear he's the one person That would
remain an entire mystery. Up until he walked
through that curtain. When it came to music.
And attire. Because he has been. If you look
at Jelly Roll's backstory. Drugs involved. Gang
affiliated. Shit like that. He was in a fucked
up life. I feel like he's going to come out to.
Something that he makes just for WWE. Some kind
of theme song. Maybe. and this attire will probably
be close to cactus jack because that's kind of
what he's wearing right now bro you know i i
would definitely agree i feel like it'd be a
cactus jack vibe it's a flannel yeah like some
sweatpants out like i feel like it's going to
be a very cactus jack style yeah because if they
target this more towards looking like a fight
it makes sense to come out looking like a jack
just you know A jacked -as -cack. A jacked -as
-cack. It's only a tag, though, right? Yeah,
it's a regular tag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you
kidding me? I wish it was hardcore. Randy, I
can call you the match right now. Ready? It's
going to be Randy Orton doing the shine, Randy
Orton taking the heat, and Jelly Roll coming
down with a hot tag, and Jelly Roll might take
one bump because... He did take the fucking Claymore.
I don't know if you watched Saturday Night. He
took the Claymore and he fucking sold the shit
out of it. Granted, he was set up in the same
position. He was set up in a position where somebody
that hasn't taken a bump yet on TV was perfect
because he was already laying down for it. He
was laying down talking to Randy or whatever
and then took it. If he was standing and took
that and the bump looked like shit, They might
have second guesses. They protected him, just
like they're doing Dirty Dom. They're coddling
him. They're babying him until it's time where,
obviously, Dominic's probably going to end up
defending the title at SummerSlam. Probably,
yeah. But with Jelly Roll, I feel like they're
going to save one bump. They do the one bump.
He either kicks out at fucking two and nine quarters,
or Randy breaks up the fucking pin. It'd be better
if Randy breaks it up. Randy's going to get an
RKO, and then I don't even know what the fuck.
I don't know what Jelly knows what to do as far
as move -wise, but realistically, everyone knows
Jelly when it comes to wrestling as far as the
choke slam. So I feel like either... one of them
takes, Logan takes the RKO, sells up into a choke
slam, or Jelly hits him with the choke slam and
he fucking sells up, takes the RKO. Yeah, I'd
say it'd probably be towards that. If that happens,
buy a lottery ticket. Yeah. Alright, we're trying
to truck this along too so we can actually play
some games without fucking running at midnight.
So this dropped, I think it was yesterday, and
it got me fucking excited as well as a lot of
other fans. and puts a little tear to my eye.
We're going to get AJ Styles at fucking Slammiversary.
Oh, didn't mean to remove you. I did the wrong
thing. I, as a person that has literally grown
up on my peak TNA experience was 2009 through
2013 so like to see that like coming from what
he has already done now and where what he has
done before some people may overlook this and
the reason why i say that is because there's
everyone is so used to seeing aj on the biggest
platform that you can be in wrestling such as
wwe when they when those people see him go to
tna they they think either a he is lowering himself
or b for the nostalgic fans it's like oh if he's
coming if he's doing whatever he's doing it may
it may be a good thing It may be a nostalgic
act. It might be... Excuse me for one second.
I apologize. I'm just so excited because it's
like... I'm really hoping we get the OG fucking
AJ's music even though I know he fucking hates
it. But this is the great thing about TNA working
with WWE is that we can get the guys that were
in TNA to be able to come in and do some business
with TNA. um that work with wwe uh you know we
got um uh joe hendry coming out in wrestlemania
tna champion champion never happened before it's
fucking wild just to see that um i kind of wish
it was a longer match but i understand you know
the criticism with that of uh you know can't
be as like a long standing match because you
know wwe's a higher performer than tna but you
know just to see that they're using guys like
aj to come in to promote uh slamversary who built
tna basically um you know the only thing that
i see as a as this not going as well as it could
for him is there's no and i literally mean there
is no one from his peak career that is currently
in TNA. When you think about it, there is...
I feel like TNA, where they are with who they
have as people on the roster, who from the 2009
to 2013 era is there currently? Versus... Besides
Hardy. Jeff Hardy. But they are crossing in between
everything right now. They're not just solely
on the TNA. We just had Goldberg in the... We
just had Goldberg for fucking crying out loud.
Like, what the fuck, dude? We just had Trish
Stratus for Evolution. What do we have? I know,
that was crazy. That was fucking crazy. But TNA,
there's nobody. um all the people that were in
tna that are still actively wrestling are in
aw yeah i was gonna say are in aw uh i think
bully ray is the only one that's um you know
that's been he's not even wrestling isn't wrestling
anymore like it's the spots here and there i
guess technically you would say punk but i don't
think punk was in that era of uh no no He was
a blink -and -you -miss -it scenario in that
case. Yeah, well, he was wrestling in TNA, but
it was that fact of it went to you either pick
TNA or you pick ROH. Yeah. Because Punk built
ROH. Yeah, I was going to say, Punk built ROH.
So he went there. So that's in the sense of this
is I feel like putting... styles in a slamiversary
scenario is like the only may harm him it may
like also why are you doing this right now during
the middle of the storyline that he's doing with
dom so he's doing i don't know obviously you
don't watch on a regular basis but on on raw
he is literally lurking in the backstage area
every week during a judgment day promo during
a judgment day segment anything this motherfucker
is just standing behind fucking crew like uh
boxes and shit and he's just looking at dom and
he's just like he's just staring the fuck staring
him down and then last monday um he had to go
get a um or pierce told him that he had to go
get an update or like a referral see if he's
like cleared or not so and they said if that
if he gets clear then he has to defend his title
in summerslam which obviously is going to happen
so after they're done this whole segment the
camera just literally short pans to the left
and it's and it's I don't understand why they
did it like this. It's just AJ standing on the
ground less than six feet away from Dom. And
he's going, oh, please, Lord, please make sure
he passes his exam. Oh, please, Lord. And it's
just Dom just standing in the forefront of the
shot being like, oh, please, Lord. I'm like,
what the fuck is happening? But you have all
that going on. What? is aj building up to summer
to slam aversary for on tna is he just showing
up to interfere do a promo do a match i think
he's doing that but like where's the build isn't
isn't slam aversary like this month or within
the next 30 days yeah i don't know when the date
is or is it this month I think it's this month.
The build is just basically showing that he's
back. Why would you announce it now if it's on
July 20th? Motherfucker! It's in two fucking
days! Why would you promote the guy that don't
TNA? Four days. I think it was four. It might
not have been set in stone. That's maybe why
they didn't do it. Maybe they had to have actual
white permission from WWE to finally clear. Okay,
go for it. Or maybe he's going to have a match
with people that aren't in TNA. I mean, it's
possible. Maybe somebody from AEW. Okay. I don't
know. I don't know about that. I know they don't
have a good, I know they don't have a good, you
know, standing, you know, AEW and TNA don't really,
you know, see eye to eye right now because they
kind of fuck each other. I feel like with the
WWE and TNA crossover, there's no AEW play at
all in it. Like, at all whatsoever. Well, I don't
know. Maybe I could be wrong. I mean, or you
can be wrong. I said, could you imagine having
Mojo or... The ultimate forbidden door would
be if any A .W. wrestler jumped in WWE wrestler
on a Monday on a fucking WrestleMania. Yeah.
Well, it's just like Chris. Is it Chris? Who
was the match? It was AJ Styles versus Mojo versus.
Oh, shit. What was his name? I can't remember,
but he's on A .W. If he managed to get on TNA
Slammiversary as well with AJ and they have a
match, he'll be fucking killed. I got to look
it up now because I can't remember what his fucking
name is. But yeah, because I don't know. I would
like to see actually TNA, even though they're
in AEW, if TNA would allow it and WWE would allow
it to have them together, AJ. Just AJ versus
Samoa Joe. Christopher Daniels. Christopher Daniels.
Christopher Daniels was able to. Yeah, and had
a match with AJ Styles for Slammiversary. Absolutely.
Fuck it. Make it a fucking three -way. God damn
it. Nah, nah. Make it a four -way. We're going
to do AJ Styles versus Christopher Daniels versus
Frankie Kazarian versus Abyss. Dude, that'd be
dope as shit. That'd be awesome. It would have
every element of wrestling. You would have your
technical. You'd have your high flying. You'd
have your fucking hardcore. You'd have everything.
And those four? Granted, this may be very debatable.
If you had a Mount Rushmore, a good Rushmore,
a good Mount Rushmore. You would have AJ. You
would have Abyss. You would have either or Christopher
Daniels, Frank Kazarian because they're both
on the same level. And then I mean I would throw
God. Samoa Joe. Samoa Joe. I didn't even realize
I didn't put Samoa Joe up there. AJ Styles, Samoa
Joe. A rematch of Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles.
Or Frank Kazarian, Abyss. Any of those. Yeah.
And notice how I didn't refer to any of the sort
of Hulk Hogan, etc. Aces of AIDS. I would put
beer money as like a beer money would be up there.
Yeah. And then if you were going way, way, way
back, I mean, you can't go way, way back because
if you go too far back, early beginning TNA is
just what AEW is now. You had Booker T, Christian,
you had Kurt Angle was a little later, but you
still had guys that had left WWE and went to
TNA. in, like, mid -2000s to make a name for
themselves. That's also an annoying part about
fucking AEW. It's just, like, you see what happened
in TNA, and you would think, let's do the exact
opposite. And yet they're literally doing the
same fucking thing that they did. It's literally
just a mixture of ex -WWE and indie guys, like,
combined together. Right. Because in TNA... you
didn't have indie wrestlers weren't a fucking
thing in the early stages of TNA. There was just
ROH. That was it. I guess you would technically
say it was an indie promotion. It was, but that
was the major one of that era of time. If you
look at today, ROH isn't even its own independent
company anymore. You have... game changer wrestling
is like is the roh of today i'll say it right
here live in front of the millions and millions
of people that watch us that game changer wrestling
is the roh of this generation because when you
look at the people that come from game changer
or the people that work in game changer that
came from think about it there are people That
have left the E. And have gone to the Indies.
Or the ROH of this generation. You have. Think
of the guys that were in ROH. That had either
left WWE. Or came from ROH to WWE. You have.
Shotzi. Left WWE. Went to Game Changer. You have
Matt Cardona. literally left WWE, did every wrestling.
I was going to say, Matt Cardona does everything.
He did everything, but his highlight of his entire
independent wrestling career, Game Changer. Only
because he decided to fucking just do death match
at the time. They call out John Cena because
he called out him. There, yeah, and try to get
John Cena on the fucking Hammerstein Ballroom
show. Hi, John Cena. no no so the funny story
with that correlating to that is um gcw's second
hammerstein ballroom show matt cardona had an
open challenge match and so he came out and said
i challenge any fucking person does not matter
where the fuck they come from and he had somebody
come out i don't remember who the first person
was beat them in 30 seconds next person to come
out was an indie guy named tommy invincible came
out they had like a like a five minute so match
whatever it's like nah it's not good enough i
want somebody better out comes out microman again
like two and a half feet three feet tall fucking
dude beats him in no time and then uh third guy
was uh jimmy lloyd which gcw like home body uh
and beats him He went on to either Chris Van,
I think it was a CVV, yeah, and he said that
he tried to contact Cena to try and get Cena
to show up at the Hammerstein Ballroom at Game
Changer Wrestling to answer his open challenge
match, and it almost fucking worked. It almost
fucking worked. No shit. He was like, he said
he was like this close, and then somebody, it
wasn't Triple H, And this was just last year.
Somebody within management shut it down. And
he was like, fuck. And it wasn't because it was
Matt Cardona. It was just the independent wrestling,
too. It was that barrier, fresh, like, we can't
do this. They're getting close, but they're not
close enough to be able to do that. So, like,
if Cena would have been involved with, like,
the problem is if Cena has never been involved
in any independent wrestling format in his career.
That is a lie. What? That is a lie. WWE doesn't
count. No. No, no, no, no, no. Not the New England.
No, chaotic doesn't count either. Hold on. That
was a one -time hit. There was a show. I can't
remember what it was, but he was a referee and
Vince McMahon was actually involved in the show.
That was chaotic. I know the whole story. I heard
it in person by Warbeard. I've heard the whole
story. That counts. That's one independent show.
He's probably done other ones, too, where he's
just shown up and just done something. There's
no history of that. His dad does it all the time.
Oh, yeah. You go to any New England wrestling
fucking... Jess Nolan got an AA. I was like,
you fucking lucky. Bro, go to any fucking show.
Once a year, Larry Huntley has him on a show
somewhere, and it's always a show that I end
up not doing. I've watched so many Larry Huntley
shows, Northlander Wrestling Association, but
I've never been in front of John Cena's dad.
It's the only show that I've never worked. I
think he ran the Six Flags and was involved in
it. They had Kurt Angle and John Cena Sr. Northeast
Wrestling. Damn. I think there's been a few besides
that one that Cena has been involved. He was
close. That would have been awesome. Could you
imagine? It's like, who's next? Come on. They
should have done. If it didn't happen, it would
have been like they would have done everything
that they did. It would have been Microman, Tommy
Invincible, and then like Jimmy Lloyd probably
would have been still in it. And then after they
were like, nah, I need because he had like three
people come out and then he lost in the end.
It would have just been Cena coming out through
the curtain. Could you imagine? Just like. Losing
their shit. Yeah, it's like, come on. And then
all of a sudden... On some, like, shitty fucking
PA system in the Hammerstein. And they don't
have the best... GCW doesn't have, like, the
best quality production as far as lighting and
everything. It would have been, like, some little,
like, smog shit going on. It would have been
just, like... little intermediate lights just
changing colors yeah i would have been and he
would have been doing that in front of three
thousand people oh they would have lost their
it's one universe that happened it happened three
thousand would have sounded more than the regular
seventeen to eighteen thousand they get on a
regular thousand a loss of yeah oh my god are
you kidding me absolutely and this is during
a show where uh uh um alley cat got injured the
leg oh yeah that was the same show so imagine
john cena being in the fucking locker room watching
an indie wrestler snap her fucking leg in half
dude probably would walk out he probably would
be like fuck this shit why the fuck am i getting
involved in this right oh shit all right Let's
fucking end this thing. We're way too far along
for this shit. Are you still up for games or
no? It's already 11 .17, my guy. So? Do you have
to work tomorrow? I have to travel tomorrow.
Okay. Then maybe we'll do it some other time
then. I mean, you know what? How about we 1v1?
That's what we're going to do. You know what?
No, you know what? Fuck it. We're doing this
shit. I got my laptop. I got Cottonmouth up the
fucking wazoo right now. Do your plugs. Yeah.
Follow me at GPR Riley on Facebook, Instagram,
YouTube, TikTok, maybe Pornhub. I don't know.
You still got to do that. You got to make an
account. They're going to find it. We got one
person watching. I hope it's ball -to -ball promotions.
If it is ball -to -ball promotions, it's watching
right now. My next show will be on my birthday,
July 26th at the Franklin Vets Club. We will
be out here doing some wrestling. No, we. That
won't be. Oh, sorry. I'm taking a break. That's
right. Yeah, you're on a break. I will be doing
the wrestling. I'm going to be honest. My shit's
shit right now. I'm taking a break. I need to
go back to the dojo and do some training and
shit. Same. The problem is my job fucking makes
me sound physically incapacitated. Yeah, and
I'll be that way until like six months or so.
Until you get into a groove and then you can
fucking do it. Yeah. Anyways, July 26, Franklin
Betts Club, MEW. presents slugfest i've been
trying to egg uh the the owner of the company
to let me do it's called slugfest so i thought
that it would be appropriate to do a home run
derby death match because you know we're on a
bit they were we're supposed to have a baseball
field we're supposed to have i'm just telling
you No. Take a break from hardcore shit. Motherfucker,
I've taken a break since me and Jason Devine
wrestled. How old are you? I'm turning 30 on
the 26th. Do you want to be able to fucking move
when you're 35? Are you my mother? Nah, I didn't
think so. Are you my girlfriend? Nah, I didn't
think so. Why don't you go listen to Foley talk
about this shit? I don't need no therapy act
over here. You're saying that now, and then you're
going to be like, when you're 40, you can't even
fucking move. I'm going to go wrestle a normal
match. Like a boring old wrestler should. I forget
what the guy that I'm wrestling does an Australian
thing, so I'm probably going to throw out some
really fucked up Australian gimmick harassment.
Oh, yeah, that's right. I forget your heel now.
No. I don't know what I am, okay? You're technically
a heel now, you fucker. No, because I did that
once. No! And then the very next show, I was
not. So you could ask the fucking, the psychological
fucking team around this guy. So you pulled a
Seth Rollins, you just hated Eric, you weren't
actually heel. I pulled the, I did what I was
told to. I did it for the rock. I did what I
had to because I was paid to do what I was told
so because the next show meant nothing nothing
anyways some Australian dude I'm fucking around
with we're gonna have a great time and the best
part is I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I'm on
before the actual show even begins so by the
time that the show actually starts I'm gonna
be double fisting my fucking drinks i'm gonna
be by the time the first match is over i'm gonna
be a fucking heathen from hell in that fucking
venue everyone's gonna be like what the fuck
is wrong with jp o'reilly oh he's drunk as fuck
it's his birthday and you're just gonna keep
feeding me fucking drinks so who the fuck knows
how my birthday is gonna end i might be blacked
out in the middle of fucking nowhere Call me.
Call me. Ask him for a ride. Yeah, my shit just
crashed for a minute. I'm glad that the fucking
podcast and then my page just went out of memory.
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I'm getting that. The stopping chair shot. I'm
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It's so great. And then, of course, the wave
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Can you click on the picture of it? Please. Hannah's
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but what's funny is the picture is from, it's
an Emmy, me and Sammy Chaos. It's that show with
the hoodie on. It's just me. waving. I know.
It's funny that I'm wearing the same fucking
shirt. Why is it so watery? I wasn't around for
that. I never understood the call. I need to
find the video of that. It's with Ethan Scott.
Oh, you know what? Maybe I have seen it. Of course,
we got all these hats, t -shirts, and different
colors. We also have for youth. This is what
I love about brain Buster T's because it's like
it's a different colors You can get a black navy
sports gray and of course white and then the
teach the hats I believe are in Two or three
different colors. We check think it's what is
the size of the snapback? So usually I have no
clue because I'm But we got I'm hoping that the
logo is a little bit bigger than that on that
on that I told them that have a big so hopefully
it's hard to tell with this. Cause like, like
I said, this looks small on, on this hat, but
then you look at this one and it looks like,
yeah, that's way better. Yeah. But you gotta
get right. I'm definitely gonna get a gray one
of the snapback. Cause it looks dope. Yeah. And
of course I've subscribed to the perfect, the
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The perfect player will be JP versus Big Cat
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not to the fact that I've been drinking, but
the fact that I'm probably playing on cloud gaming,
so I've got a slight... interface delay. Hopefully,
it won't be hard gaming then. Hopefully, you'll
have it all ready to go. Motherfucker, I literally
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this shit's already open in the menu, ready to
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we'll have everybody back. I hope so. Next week
or the week after, we'll have Randy Carver Jr.
on discussing DLC. That's right. We're going
to have Randy Carver for DLC. And possibly the
last match ever for Matt and Jeff Hardy at Limitless.
Because they might be retiring. Oh, I saw the
TNA thing from yesterday. Yeah. They wouldn't
end on an indie show. I'm hoping that they'll
probably end at WrestleMania. If they're going
to end their careers, it would have to be where
they started. Yeah. We'll see. Hopefully it'll
be like WrestleMania or whatever, but we'll see.
I hope so. I mean, they could be like every other
guy that retires and then just jumps on the Indies
and does a bunch of Indie shows. Literally retires
on a fucking crowd show of like 120 people. Yeah.
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