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How's it going buddy?
And we have to wave hello to our audio listeners today.
I will never live that down as like the greatest thing ever.
Just casually, I was so overtired.
It was so funny.
And just hearing like, okay, we're going to say bye to our audio listeners and I'm just
sitting here leaving out of the chair so tired.
And I was like, bye Spotify listeners, like as if like, you know, they can see me.
So we're waiting on Dylan Nix.
He said he'll be on shortly.
I don't know where Levi's Spade is.
He's probably, yeah, apparently taking a body slam.
But maybe somebody could explain more to that with our guest who is there training today
in the class.
We have already the host of Ring Wars.
The hostess with the mostest.
How's it going guys?
Hey, welcome to a part three.
Like every part three, I think this is the most parts we've had of one person being on
per sessions.
Well, you guys keep leaving questions out.
Storytime, it turns into storytime.
You're like, Oh, I forgot to ask this.
Oh, I forgot to ask that.
I'm like, God dang it.
Well, on top of that, it's like seems like everybody's very interested in your career,
you know, with IWE, you know, starting with Tony Atlas.
And like I said, we haven't even gotten to.
Yeah, all the recent stuff is in like half the old stuff we still haven't talked about
either.
But like all the recent stuff too, we barely touch on other than some ring wars stuff,
because that's obviously what's what's happening right now.
And then, you know, any current event stuff that pops up in questions usually otherwise,
it's so far it's been it's been the kind of actually kind of all over the place a little
bit, but other than the more pertinent newer stuff that everybody kind of probably wants
to know about too.
But then and then you were just talking about today.
Today, I was filling teaching at the Limitless Dojo, which I don't really do much anymore.
But I'll do on occasion, you know, Randall, give me a call on that.
So and so can't do this.
I know you're booked like all the time between wrestling and gigs because of my shoot job.
But could you fill in and I said, yeah, I can fill in today.
And then I'm sure enough, I don't know if the word got out or something, but there's
like 13 to 15 people in that dojo tonight.
Holy crap.
I was supposed to be there, but my wife is on call today.
So she didn't get home until 20 minutes before the dojo closed.
When you got there, like people were just starting to leave.
It was packed.
There was definitely 13 people in there, but people kept showing up after two and I don't
I lost track of that one.
Just remember we had to do a six in six out rotation.
And then one person was like a straggler.
That's how I remember.
I'm like, holy crap, who told people I was going to be here?
Because all of a sudden everybody's here like, oh, Eric, you should come to class today.
Welcome to class.
I'm like, you guys should come to class regardless.
Right.
Well, as I said, I don't think they've had that big of a class in quite a while.
All right.
than
the
that bump all the time.
If it just.
It's not a good scenario, especially for me, my ribs, I used to pop out.
I used to see a chiropractor every two weeks because I wrestle so much.
My ribs would pop out and she'd pop in, she had to pop them back in.
I'd be laying down, she'd be like, well, this little tiny English lady.
You're like, oh, I found one right here.
And I'm like, hey, hey, hey,
the little awkward noises, like this little little tiny English lady.
Yeah. Oh, oh, just like this is not
it's just funny that is a little tiny person's body.
And I'm I'm I'm squealing like a little girl.
Yeah. I didn't know what a bump card was until until it came to the end.
Yeah. No, I'm like,
when you get older, yeah, what this would do.
The old guys, including myself, will joke about your bump card.
And it's a true thing.
When when when the old guys tell you to slow down or take it easy,
it's not because we're trying to be jerks about it.
It's not trying because we're trying to do.
You mean you it's not because we're trying to stop you from doing all your spots
that you all want to seem to do these days.
It's because eventually when you get to be.
You know, my time after 20 years of doing this crap, I'm 21 years in.
And bumping sucks because it drains you.
Like I tell you right now, every time I bump, I literally have to see the car
after the weekend's over that following week.
I have to go see a chiropractor, pop my ribs back in.
I usually dislocate anywhere from four to seven ribs at a time.
So after this is because I bump in the when you bump, you get bumped flat.
But I'm 400 pounds bumping.
So my ribs just. Yeah.
That was like like I know matches.
I don't even take a bump.
And it's like I got hit with a car.
That's what it feels like.
It's like, what the fuck?
Every hardcore match I do, I use it, abuse my poor bump card.
Because I'm like, yeah, I should probably not do this every time.
Yeah. Well, when you're in a wheelchair, when you're 30. Yeah.
Listen, when you get old, it's when you're going to know.
I think I'm on a good track.
When you get old, that's when you're going to know.
And also when when you go to do normal everyday things
and your body hurts and my everyday things, I mean, just
getting up out of a chair.
Wait, that already does happen.
Fuck. Should listen sooner.
Oh, Jason, as you can see,
a bunch of people popping on us, with a lot of people say, you know,
but Lee Miller says Eric rules big country.
Jason Aversus, the fellows I told you, you're like the most popular of the channel.
Like everybody wants to know stories and all that stuff from the back.
Like as a big user, abusing me.
Damn right.
Like a little podcast for you.
Kick that.
Kick the horse until it's done.
That's my best Jason Rumble voice here, the little podcast for
both their shoes.
Had it all.
But yeah, so I taught class today.
That was that's funny is like when you sent me the link to come on here,
I just walked through the door.
So I timed it perfectly.
I was like, oh, yeah, I literally joined the podcast.
Like literally is like I had just got home done with all my shit.
I had to drive here from the dojo.
Dojo like 20 minutes from me.
But like I left there and came right here and
I just leave is that quick.
I got back and walked through the door.
Oh, hey, that must be the link. Sure was.
It's worked out and probably properly.
I got enough time to grab a soda and sit down.
I got coffee cooking right now, but I'm like, I don't want to get up.
I'm sitting down.
So today I took a nap because I knew that I wouldn't have been able to survive
tonight. So yeah, yeah.
Today, also with that class, there's such a diverse group in there.
There was a bunch of like three like one monthers in that not even one month.
There's like a couple classes in.
And then you had your your kids that are right there that all putting the work in
and are trying to get to that point where they're ready for their first match.
And they're almost there.
And then you had all the guys there that were like match ready and capable.
It was weird. It was a huge mix.
So I'm like, OK.
This is for lack of a better term clusterfuck.
So we're going to try to make the best out of this.
So let's do this. And I just did rotating.
In and out and out and everybody was cool with it.
And everybody understood.
No one was heartbroken about it.
And I got we did because we did so much diverse stuff today.
Even the younger people that are not young people, younger people in wrestling,
they just start out.
They got to see so much and absorb it like a sponge.
And that's the best of what they need to see sometimes.
They're like, this is what you're getting into.
Right. Exactly.
Watch carefully.
This is what you signed up for and signed the waiver for.
And paid your money ways to do so.
Pay attention.
I didn't get to have the talk with them.
Right.
Do you guys know what the talk is?
Yes.
At first, they're all out.
That's heavy. Sit down.
Give you that talk.
They didn't get that they didn't have time.
There's 13 over 13 people in that classroom.
I just couldn't.
I was like, no, we're getting it.
We're getting to work now.
So it was getting used to we got to out.
We got in two hours and stuff to give them credit.
They put it into work today.
So yes.
I hope you come. I hope you come.
I hope you're able to do, you know, more.
I know you're not don't do it frequently anymore.
But at the same time, like, you know, like I'm after next week,
I'm probably going to be at the dojo consistently now.
So I think we're aiming for next Friday.
So I think Randy was really was asking me afterwards if I could do it next Friday.
And I said, I can do next Friday.
But after that, busy season starts for the for me, my DJing and
wrestling, too, because we're getting in the warmer weather at that point.
Once March hits.
So yeah.
So like next week, I'm available Friday, not available Saturday, but available Friday.
And I thought I could do Friday if that works out for me.
So I'm going to confirm everything with the rest of the teachers.
So I might be there Friday.
And then after that, obviously, we have ring wars the following week.
And I got a gig and a show the following week after that.
And it just gets busier after that.
Like March is busy for all of us.
Yeah, we got to do.
Arch is the most like dance with a lot of wrestling shows.
We got a lot of pre show like pre records for a whole month.
Everybody has a show on Friday and Saturday.
So like, well, work it out.
You're welcome.
I might not now.
Oh, yeah, you might not.
Now we're just talking about you fucked up your hip.
I took a body slam.
That's it.
I just ain't kids.
Make sure you take a shit correctly.
Shut the fuck up, JP.
I will kick you in the dink.
We just thought about you.
You are getting a little buddy.
I'm all.
I will fully admit that.
But I was like, really?
Like the one thing I've always been like, well, you know,
I don't have all the wear and tear on me that like, like you or Ben would.
Eric, because I haven't been doing it for 20 years.
I was like, I've only been doing it for six.
But because you're older,
your body's going to absorb that abuse.
So you're catching up with your body.
Is it all the abuse you've had taken from when you started creating to now?
It's far times worse because your body doesn't receive it better.
It's like my body became more calloused to wrestling.
I guess would be the best term because I started younger when I started
with those 18.
My body could bounce back at that point because your body doesn't stop
growing to the age of 24 between 24 and 26, depending on the person.
So now that we're all older,
that's what I'm trying to stop myself from doing.
I'm trying to stop myself from doing it.
I'm trying to slow down as much dates, but everybody keeps like,
Oh, we need you. We need dumb.
So, but like, that's what I'm saying.
Now that you're older, your body is just not absorbing anymore.
Oh no. I get it. It's just, it just sucks.
Sorry, man.
I get you.
Like I was telling the,
these guys like I think what I did it is this dumb thing was my entrance
where I jump off the top and kind of bounce down into the ring.
I've done it.
A million times. And I think I just jam my hip right the one time.
And I was wondering what I think happened to your head because I got it
heard my early years of wrestling.
I think you have an offset hip.
I'm going to go see the chiropractor on Saturday.
I know Wednesday when I get paid.
See if you don't tell you if you're an offset hip,
it means when you're one side of your hip is higher than the other.
Yeah. Yeah.
You're caught.
They got to pop it back into place.
The problem is because you are wrestling so much too.
It's just going to pop it back out. Yeah.
I'm going to go and you know, at least, at least live a little bit.
Oh yeah.
You'll feel more comfortable once they pop it back.
But the problem is as long as you don't take care of it properly,
like take some time to rest up, it's going to keep popping out.
Yeah.
I'm just telling you, cause I used to have one when I first started
wrestling. Oh, no, no.
I'm an amateur wrestling.
That's when you're really getting slammed.
Yeah.
Without, without, without, without, without, without, without,
without, without, without, without, without, without,
without, without a choice.
Yeah.
Poor, no, it's like a pretzel.
Poor Mark East is like, he was like, Oh, I was like, dude, you're fine.
It's, you know,
I literally told him like he's old. He'll be fine.
I just landed weird.
This really was, you know,
he started coming back.
So he's just like, great.
I heard somebody like, you're fine.
It's fine, dude.
We actually cat night or night cat, uh, same with Matthews.
And I were talking about it limitless.
Like dude, come back.
Like he's like, well, don't bother anyone for rides.
I'm like, just ask in the chat.
Someone's always coming through Bangor.
He's not that he's not that out of the way.
He's right.
And it's not like he's like, you know, in formal or something.
Yeah.
He's like right.
He's right on the main drag basically.
You're not driving 30.
But I respect that.
I respect that he's shy enough to go like, I don't want to put anybody out.
Like that.
Cool.
I get it.
You know,
He doesn't bother anybody, but don't you got him?
It's all good.
Yeah.
So we covered all the ID.
Well, as much as the IW things that we can think of.
So what was the transition from IWE to more let's and limitless?
Well, the let's stuff kind of happened.
I'm sure you guys talked about this in previous podcasts.
I think you might've talked about it with Zach when he was on here.
Well, the limitless thing happened.
Not limitless.
The less Russell thing in Orono happened because a lot of disgruntled people
at IW after I sold.
So what had happened was when I sold, when I was steering the proverbial ship,
limitless used to run an or no.
Like literally Randy's first show.
Was at my venue was at city side.
Because he lost his venue, which was, I think, the Sea Dog at the time.
He lost the video.
He lost the venue and was not Carl,
but Carl's wife who owned Cityside with Carl had asked me,
I'm literally eating dinner there one time with my kids at Cityside.
And she asked me, hey, because she knew Randy from my shows.
He used to ring announce for me.
Then she told me the situation like, yeah, well,
Randy was asking about renting the room, but it's your chairs back there.
And I don't want to upset you because you run here monthly.
And I said, OK, well, I hit up Randy, found out the situation.
I lost his venue.
And I said, OK, so I talked to her and I said, he's got my blessing.
Go ahead.
Because I know a lot of the time, like his first show,
if you look back on his first show that Randy did, all those guys,
I think other than like two people had worked for me in the past.
So I didn't want to be the guy.
To burn a bridge with dudes that worked for me or currently worked for me.
Right.
So I think one or two dudes were the only people that didn't work for me.
And I said, cool.
It wasn't a hermene.
I'm like, oh, these are all people that these these fans know anyway.
So if anything, I thought, well, it's just going to kind of blend in at the time.
That's what I thought.
But because of the quality and style of limitless wrestling is diverse,
it's definitely different.
It's more modern.
It's the more competitive wrestling there.
But there are certain niche likes, you know, and that's fine.
I'd be was more it was still wrestling based, but it was more old school
entertainment, in my opinion, rather than the competitive,
combative modern wrestling that it is.
So anyway, what ended up happening was after that first limitless show,
I think I had talked with the owners of Cityside because Randy wanted to run
their monthly and I was not OK with that because I'm already running here
monthly. You can't have two monthly shows in the same venue.
It's going to get it's going to get confusing.
It's like where they were selling tickets.
You're going to screw them and someone's mischievous.
I'm not so and she agreed.
So Randy started running in Orno and we ran alongside each other all the time
to the point where, like I think I said on one of the last podcasts,
we literally went head to head one time.
There was a couple of times I feel like it was.
I remember one of those shows because I went to IW instead of going to let the
let's and I was like, just because like I'm talking about those things.
I left or at the IW that I knew it.
Let's so that's why I went.
Yeah, the this is back during the limitless days when I'm still running it.
I think the one of the last shows I ran, I think it was it was like in the
November. Yeah, November when everything was still changing over to John was
one of the last November, December and then January was my last one.
But anyway, that November we went head to head.
It was limitless versus IW first ever incident of it happening.
John was super nervous about it, but I wasn't because it was too diverse type
of shows.
Randy was the like competitive style, more modern, and we were the
entertainment. I think we had shockwave, the robot and a woman's match and a
bunch of the regular guys that were on the roster.
And Randy had an all star studied indeed, Indie Darling style show, not to not
be insulted. Just I don't know a better word for it.
He had a lot of top Indie guys on the show from New England, like cool.
And we went out and we literally split the crowd in half.
I think there was like a 12 person difference.
We drew he drew like around like one.
Fifty and I think we drew like one thirty eight.
And that could have been who knows how many of that was comps on both sides.
So I just said we really split the crowd in half.
I was like, we really split the two.
I think if we had both had not run on the same time, the fact that we could
have literally have drawn 300 people in one of the venues kind of that kind of
hurt my soul a bit because I'm going to myself.
We literally split this crowd in half.
Yeah.
But anyway, to fast forward to answer your question.
So when I sold it, Randy eventually actually stopped running an or no, we
started running it out in Westbrook.
And that was the end of the or no venue until one day a chat opens up.
And at this point, I am still not I'm no longer working for it to be.
They've cut me out.
I've been I've been not wrestling as much.
I've been on the sidelines since I got cut out and a group chat gets opened and I
get brought into it and I find out what happens.
There's a incident between John the bomb and MSP.
You know, more specifically, yeah, I think I remember hearing this part of the
that drunken threatened to fight Amber or something.
And yes, I mean, all of that and half of the roster was not OK with it because
it got you got when it went public to the locker room and the locker room was not
happy about it. A lot of people did agree like they really did take Amber and
Josie side. Yeah.
And it was right around was right after the Shane Douglas weekend that they
brought in Shane Douglas, which is an ironic story because the Shane Douglas
weekend was the weekend I was going to back to work for them.
They hit me up.
Right around that same weekend, just start bringing me back in on what it was.
They wanted me to drive Shane Douglas all weekend because they didn't trust
anybody else.
And they know I get along with all the old guys because I'm an old guy.
So they had me pick him up from the airport and all that stuff.
And I tell you the Shane Douglas story, finding about how we actually wrestled
in Bertha before. No, no.
No, no. Oh, my God. So we're going to get to answering your question.
I saw this is why we never get to answer everything.
It's OK. I can tell my cat's face.
It's OK. Just tell me the Shane Douglas story. I want to do.
I want to do.
It's like he's like, I don't care about you answering my question.
Just give me the Shane Douglas story.
So we'll get there.
So this is the weekend they decided to bring me back.
So I'm going to bring in the Shane Douglas, because I'm like a big surprise.
They want this big thing.
OK, cool.
And so they asked me about a dry Shane Douglas and I pick him up and we're chatting.
And we're talking about how I used to own the company.
Someone was riding with me. I can't believe I don't know if it was Drifter or somebody was somebody was in the back seat and was asking him a bunch of dumber questions.
And I was like, stop it. Let me.
So we're going to bring her.
Yeah. Yeah. And so I had brought up the ring and I used to own the company and how the ring was.
Now we called it Bertha and then she's converted ring.
And I found out, like, through tracking it through indie wrestling and there would be old wrestling that it used to be a ring that was owned by the Philadelphia Spectrum.
It used to be in the spectrum is converting bossy ring.
Very old as a unique fin on the post, very rounded in the top of the post had like that little no bump, kind of like I like it like a no, but you would find on a nut.
Right. I got nuts and bolts combo that little on the top.
That's how it would look. So and I explained it to him.
He said, you said it was in the Philly Spectrum.
Like, yeah, I tracked it down through different owners, did all the research I could find on it. And I'm like, this ring is really old. He's like, how is it still operating?
Like, well, I got this guy is a welder. He used to be a welder in the Navy. He used to weld on battleships.
So he doesn't really for lack of a better term, he doesn't fuck around.
And like, he's like, I bet he doesn't.
And he goes, I'm like, no, he don't. So this thing does not move.
It's stiff, but it's because it's the only way we can get it to work.
And anyway, so I explained it to him. He didn't believe me.
Well, we get to the venue and I explained to him is we're in Fairfield first on the Friday.
I walk him in, show him where everything is.
And then I take him out to the ring. He walks out through the curtain or the curtain areas where normally is in Fairfield, right by that doorway, by the bathrooms, walks through the curtain.
He sees the ring.
Drops his bags.
He just stands there and stares at it. He's like, you got to be shitting me.
I'm like, what's up?
He's like, you weren't. He's like, you weren't in his own words. You weren't fucking lying.
He walks over to it and the first thing he does is grab that fin of that post.
He's like, holy shit.
So he looks at me, he goes, you know how old this ring is? I'm like.
Yep.
And so he's he's pushing on the paddings and this thing doesn't move.
I'm like, take a bump in it. He's like, I don't he's like, I don't fucking dare to.
He's like, I'm old. I'm going to break my back. I ain't getting in this fucking thing.
Was the puzzle piece phone too?
Yeah. Oh, God. So he gets up in it.
He's bouncing around and he's like, it's pretty solid.
I'm like, yeah, my guy doesn't fuck around when he welded it. It's in good shape.
But anyway, he's bouncing around. He's like, I'm not bumping much.
And I told that to Zach, too. He's probably not going to bump much.
Why? I'm like, he knows that ring. And I explained Zach the story.
You're shitting me. I'm like, yeah, dude, that's he verified it.
He's like, he's like, he said he's wrestled in that ring in his younger years.
In his younger years.
He wrestled in the ring. Floated over that part of the story last week.
Probably doesn't remember it because probably Osro is going to do his work in Shane Douglas.
Yeah, I would be too.
And I had to drive Shane Douglas back.
And he was just like, he's like, I can't believe I wrestled in that ring.
I was like, I wrestled in that ring when I first was first started wrestling.
And now I'm wrestling. And when I'm almost done with wrestling, that's wild.
And I'm like. I'm sorry, like I didn't know what to say.
I'm like, I'm sorry. He laughed at me. He's like, he laughed at me.
But I'm like, I'm sorry. And he's just like, no, he's like, just crazy how the world works.
Everything comes full circle, I guess. That's what he said.
So the fact that he could verify what that ring was from and the look on his face like.
Like he had a flashback while just looking at that ring.
And I could tell by the way he grabbed the fin, because that has such a distinct fin on it.
A lot of the fins now are like open if you can carry the bring post.
This one's not open. It's like a full like on fin like you would see on a fish.
So I think he had PTSD.
He probably did. I think he did.
I think I remember him saying he did bump it. And he said that thing.
It's like it's firm. It's a solid bump, but it sucks.
Like nom nom starts play like for your fortune, it's on stars plays like.
But I will say this about because he brought the I just saw that Lee brought up the puzzle piece.
Matt's puzzle piece. Matt's were probably the best padding never had because a the padding never slid.
It never overlapped.
It was always flat and it was far. It was firm. It was judo, Matt.
It was like you could drop a weight like a 20 pound weight on it and the weight would bounce back up.
So your body is obviously going to bounce back up because it's made for like MMA and judo.
It still didn't make up for the unspringable spring.
That's because when the string that's not my fault.
The spring when the IWE boys, Sonny and Bomba when the ring broke, they had the spring replaced later.
Remember, we did the midget ring. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, the back of the kids midget ring. Well, when they brought that one back, I think it was Paul Mann who put a different spring in it.
Or he fixed the spring, one of the two.
I don't know what happened because it used to be an old like spring off a Mack truck.
So that's a bouncy. Those are big. Yeah.
So and then this one was not the same spring or either was that or is repaired.
I don't know, but it was off. It was not the same spring.
Like it wasn't the same springiness I could tell when I got in and I was like, I don't think so.
I got a lot of people that you ain't kidding. I'm one of your most popular friggin guys on your area.
That's why big guys like we did it every year all the time.
Question actually from from Tyler.
What will get to this question? I want to finish the story. All right. All right.
So the let's wrestle. I mean, so the the supposedly after the Shane Douglas, we can mind you Amber Russell, Shane Douglas.
And it was a good match. Shane Douglas came in and was doing good business.
That's why. And they were planning on bringing him back because he did good business and he had good crowd draws.
I think Bob got drunk and got into it with Amber. I don't know. I don't remember what it was about.
But I remember I remember Bob had threatened Amber and said, you know, because Amber was so small that and Bob used to be a shoe wrestler that he's going to be to shout at him.
And a lot of them didn't like that.
So a group checker created, as I said, and I got put in it.
Because I'm the old guy that used to run at Seaside Monthly and they were trying to see if I could do something to get them out.
I had to be out and another company in there.
And Randy, of course, had another ring. So he had the other the other same like pretty much same size ring as Bertha that could easily fit in that venue because you had to have a specific size ring.
So they were trying to literally get to be kicked out of city side and start their own deal.
And I said, I'm not going to do that. They why I'm like, listen, I don't know the full story.
I will tell you if you start a promotion, I will help you, but I'm not going to.
Because there's people involved that are innocent here. And this is where I became the kind of like the.
The man in the middle.
Yeah, it's a guys.
That something bad has happened and I understand that.
And I don't think it was right either.
However, there are people involved that do not know or do not want to be involved in that's respectful. You can't you can't make people choose a side. Everybody has to get is entitled to their own rights and opinions.
So you're going to punish people that were not involved and take away their place to work.
So that you could get them out and take over.
And once I put it in that perspective, everybody kind of understood.
But a line was definitely drawn.
So at this point, Randy, who used to be in contact with the old.
Or no venue.
It's involved.
Gets less Russell on the run. And I did say, like I said, I'll help.
And I, as many people know, I put assets in seats and that's not me blowing my horn. I literally can sell tickets with one Facebook post and word of mouth.
I did. There's a benefit show for the Special Olympics for Randy. They didn't do it.
And by just word of mouth, I sold just about 80 tickets.
Just word of mouth and on what Facebook posts by myself in hand. I had the tickets and sold them.
You've had a lot of promotions to like even with me, like the good part that I just want to like even with them.
You know, you like you every time a new promotions ever come up, you have always helped in every aspect or have always offered to help in some sort of way that is that's different from there.
There's a reason why.
There's a reason why I do that.
And that's because I know.
If I do it, and I help that there'll be some butts in the seats, they'll actually watch the show.
Because a lot of people are very weary about other promotions starting.
Yeah. And a lot of them don't turn out well because it's not done right or they're not sure if it's legit to whether they get burned or if the show's going to be shit.
You know, they don't know. I think I've worked for at least four in Maine that have like one or two that have had one or two shows.
Yeah, right. And the word. The funniest part is some of them don't even ask me until later.
How can you help me know what you asked me in the beginning?
The funny part is when people try to do stuff and then don't even give free information.
Right.
Now, it's not going to hurt me to tell you what you should do or you need to do. Yeah, it's not going to like what I tell you.
Because it's not easy.
But I'll go into that more. Let me finish the story here that Kat has asked and we never.
I'm not by more stories. I blame all of you. First, I asked this question and we've had 18 stories in between.
I like like, OK, so the last wrestling thing happens in Pornhub because half the locker room is disgruntled and I totally understood it.
And I agreed to help. I knew the I knew the the posturing groups that did it for years.
I know what needed to be done and pretty much the base roster was all set because half of the disgruntled people came over to let's wrestle.
And they brought all their friends that wanted to come up or couldn't come up because they didn't want to work for Ida B.
And so the next thing you know it, they had a full roster and over item here, Ida B has their own roster.
But this is when the roster dropped, which I think Joey P had alluded to in previous podcasts.
There was one time they had a wonderful roster and then it dropped. And this is around the time it dropped because some people left.
And only went to let's wrestle. Some people stayed in my to be only a couple people did both.
And I was one of those guys that did both because I just got asked to come back.
So and Randy was cool with it. Everybody was cool with it because they knew I was helping with let's wrestle.
So I wasn't hindering them. And over here, Ida B was cool with it because they just asked me to come back and they needed people.
And I knew I put asses in seats so they weren't going to throw me away because I was helping them over here.
So both people, both sides were cool with me doing both. So I was doing both.
But there was a many like the entire time that let's Russell was an or no. And Ida B was in Brewer.
It was a lot of tension and a lot of friendships that were like almost ruined over it because people were like, how dare you work for them or how do you like.
And I would just tell you, dude, guys, who cares? Who cares? Are you working a show? Yeah.
Are you working for the crowd? Yeah. OK, then who cares?
Like I understand your personal if I understood MSP's like their personal stance.
And I totally understood that. And I said, yeah, I would be I would be pissed if I were you, too.
But and everybody else that wasn't involved in that situation, like the only people I said that I said this out loud to them is that I understand MSP's being pissed off.
Because they're a group of close knit friends and they knew what happened. And I understood that even Randy, if Randy was pissed off for Randy wasn't.
He was just upset at how the situation has become and was so excited with his friends.
And I understood that, too. But all the people that were not involved, they were like saying shit.
I'm like, you weren't involved and you really don't even know. So just don't get involved.
But people were just side picking. And I'm not that person. I'm the one that's blunt.
I'm one that goes, hey, if you don't know or weren't involved, stay the fuck out of it.
Right. That's the problem. Not enough people need to learn to make state and mind their own business.
I understand when people stand up for their friends that I get.
Right. So I get when some people were like that.
But I didn't understand people that were never involved, not had no knowledge of the situation or getting pissy and like throwing hate on IDB.
And also they're throwing hate on IW when it should have just been directly on bomb.
So Sonny had to bear the brunt of that shit, too.
Yeah. And he wasn't even the problem. Yeah.
And Sonny was trying to actually if I think you remember, JP, he was trying to de-escalate the situation.
JP was trying to de-escalate the situation when it came to a bomb anger situation.
Like, Let's Russell was literally built off of a hatred towards how people were being treated.
And then you look at how Let's Russell is now and it evolved from that.
So like if it wasn't for realistically, it wasn't for it wasn't because of the bomb.
There would have been no Let's Russell coming back in one person.
Where it is to this day, because Let's Russell was shows that were originally run at Thatcher's in South Portland.
I had a venue, an outdoor venue called Thatcher. Oh, God, I was there for like one or two of those.
And now they're going to go to the restaurant and bar, a restaurant and bar, and they had this outdoor patio.
But on the outdoor patio, they had this giant open space.
And they're like, Could you do wrestling out here? And I'm like, Yeah, I'll try it.
Joe McBrady, who used to be Joey McNasty, got me the gig.
I feel like, well, we got down there and you would think this is like a shitty situation, but it actually was really fucking cool.
Because we would we would set up next to the patio and we would dress out back in like their storage area.
And you can walk out when you walk out on the patio, there'd be like a sea of people outside.
And they would all be like, you know, style people like standing around drinking hot hooting and hollering while you're wrestling in the fucking ring.
And that's super fucking cool. It was like a very tame show. Exactly.
So it was cool. And we did that until it got too cold.
And then they're like, well, you should try bringing it inside.
When I thought they told me to bring it inside, I thought because they actually had a giant inside room of the restaurant.
A wide open room that you would have thought would be perfect.
No, they want to put us in this back storage room.
Literally, the room was the same length as the fucking ground minus like a foot or two feet of space.
So it was long. And I'm like, maybe we can make this work.
And I'm the one that tries it. The floor was slanted in this room.
We put the ring up and the ring was on us on a slant so you can only run the ropes one way because we ran it the other way.
The ring would tip a little bit.
You couldn't have all the sides.
That reminds me of the three W show at the AMVets Hall where he set up the ring.
We couldn't run the ropes one way because we'd go into the wall. Exactly.
Well, with this one, if you ran them the other way, the ring would tip a little bit. It wouldn't fall over because the ring's too heavy.
But yeah, you could definitely feel the ring start to shift. But the thing was with this. Yeah, here you go.
So you can't tell from here that it's tilted. But this is like the back room.
This is like the best analogy I could give. It felt like an underground fight club thing.
That's how grungy it felt. And it actually drew. How many people do you think we put in there?
One time we put 128 people in that room, which didn't because we were five to six rows deep on the far side.
And then another five to six rows deep on this side of the standing room in the back.
And we literally had a shit ton of people in there. And it felt and people were responsive.
They were drunk and getting rowdy. It was a good time.
And what killed that was actually the same person who got me the venue.
Joe McGrady. I was running the gigs. I was doing the shows there.
And he tried to scoop a date that I had booked with the owner, not knowing I had the owner's phone number.
Like, I'm not stupid. I have literally keep a notebook with all contacts and shit in it.
And I had the owner's phone number and I had confirmed the dates. My dates are always confirmed.
Like in advance, I used to book out a year. So I have all my dates saved up.
And she I went to call confirm for a date. And.
She said, I canceled it. I said, no, I never told you it was canceled.
She goes, well, Joe did. He said he was going to run a show that day. I'm like, I never said I canceled it.
So we end up getting a big argument with Joe by me, like me and the owner, because what Joe was trying to do was run his own show.
On the same date I had booked.
So I called Joe. He gets an argument with me on the phone, doesn't realize I'm recording the conversation.
And then I gave it to the owner of the venue.
Mind you, Joe is like the head cook of the place at the time. Yeah, he ran that show.
And I gave it to the owner and the owner's like, that's not OK.
And literally said, you really tried to take his date and she's like, that's not OK.
So she gave me the date back and told him he couldn't have it and that he had to book his own dates if he wanted to run his own wrestling shows.
So I got to keep all my he tried to literally cut me out and cancel all my dates, told her I was canceling all of them.
She didn't understand why we were doing so well.
And he was going to take all my dates. Wow.
And while she gave me all the dates back and said he had to book his own.
And so we got to finish our dates. But then this is what she said.
After we got to finish our dates at the end of the year, she she wouldn't let me book any more dates.
And I said, why not? She's like, well, I'm having an odd conflict with Joe.
Joe runs my kitchen. Right.
And if you keep running shows here, he's going to not run shows here and he might even leave.
I said, OK, so you're taking his side, even though he was in the wrong, because I played the audio clip thing for her.
So recorded it and played it for her.
He's like, yeah, she needed she needed him on the kitchen. I understood.
Right. I was like, OK, the kitchen manager that does suck.
Yeah. So I understood. So cool.
And I was like, I thank her for letting me finish the dates. But I told her I let her know I'm going to find somewhere else.
And then here's the irony story.
So I did find somewhere else. Skips.
In Buxton.
So we were finishing on our dates and I was really going to use the piggyback the South Portland show at Thatcher's and piggyback that to go to skips in Buxton.
And I had and sold tickets at my South Portland show at Thatcher's and that fucking dingy little room I sold tickets.
And was going to go to skips the following month.
So we had a bunch of tickets sold everything.
And so we leave.
When we leave the crowd left.
So the shows that Joe was helping run were not drawing.
And we're going to skips.
I think they like I think they drew a crowd for one show.
Well, there's a reason why show that was that true.
And I'll tell you why. So we were going to go to skips.
Well, we were supposed to go to skips.
Someone called code enforcement on skips.
Wonder who that was.
Couldn't figure it out.
Yeah.
I think I might have been disgruntled kitchen manager.
But I'm not sure.
I think it was literally the week of the show.
And we had over 100 tickets sold.
Right.
So that and all this homeboy from so all about.
I don't care.
And I had sold some at the show.
So I ended up setting money to skips and skips.
I said, everybody wants three funds and go to skips and anybody that needed refunds can go to skips.
Yeah, we get them. And skips was still open.
And after then skips, then skips was open.
You get all of the bullshit with code enforcement.
That's so stupid.
So over someone calling because of wrestling.
Cuz of wrestling, independent wrestling people.
Lost their jobs.
Cause after this, the people that own skips at that time.
They closed up shop.
Later they reopened. They closed up for a minute.
It was.
Oh, we're getting there, Kevin.
the
to two people. One was Murdoch. Murdoch got involved.
Him and his buddies all got involved.
This is when Murdoch first got involved in wrestling.
Yeah. Other than his stuff was super Lujac's placebo.
But this is like he was getting involved.
And he tried to help him and their attendance went up a little bit, but
and they were trying to get some OK talent, but not they literally were using like
you know, Coco the mime and.
She got Lee, which was Joel Bouchard, a few people that weren't really
wrestling anymore. Roadblock.
And people that were on remind us of she Ali, who is Joel Bush.
That is a French that is a very, very French name.
This is the she used to be Frankie Parker and then he became a chicali.
Oh, my God. Yeah, no, that's me.
I didn't come up with the game, my brother.
Anyway, no, I know you well enough to know that you had nothing to do with that.
He went from Frankie Parker to she Frankie Ali to she golly.
And said, I always used to call him.
I used to call him Prince Ali because, you know, Aladdin Prince.
Anyway, I started using the hair bones roster and they weren't drawn anything.
And they were they were piggybacking our shows and we're doing OK
because they were getting like extra people that were just coming
because of the wrestling.
But eventually people could tell there was a difference in the product.
When I'm using guys like fucking at the time, I was using like Tommy Mac
and Graves and Joseph Schmidt coming in.
And I had I do angles with people from down there.
You know, I remember Dan Rain LeMontagne, who didn't wrestle anymore,
came back into wrestling just so that he could, you know, run work at those shows.
And he would bring people in.
I bring Marsha and I bring a bus.
There's a ton of people there.
You see people, there's people everywhere.
This was this was under
McBrady and like Murdoch.
Yes. Yes.
Murdoch took over.
Things started going a better way.
Well, eventually, Joe dropped.
He dropped out of it and it was just Murdoch holding the bag with his buddies
because his friends who live down there locally were helping him.
But it was literally was just Murdoch at this point funding it.
Well, he reached out to Randy.
He reaches out to Randy, who is running limitless in Orno at the time.
Because that's when all this shit that look.
So he's running limitless in Arno at the time.
He reaches out to Randy for help.
And Randy sent him help.
He sent them guys, gave him contacts, everything.
So Randy went down there and helped them and they were drawn.
Until I got a call from skips,
they're reopening new owners, new people, new this, new that they got everything fixed.
Everything's up to code.
They want wrestling back because they heard they saw they saw the tickets
that we had sold because they had a refundable
for it and they want they were hoping that we can come back down.
And so I'm like, yeah, well, you got in trouble code enforcement.
So I don't want to get you in trouble.
What are the parameters do I need to know to do this?
Like, well, we don't know you'd have to call the code enforcement
because we don't know anything about wrestling.
So I did. I called them.
And they asked me 20 questions.
Have you run wrestling down there before?
I'm like, no, I've never run wrestling show there ever.
But I'm aiming to do so.
And people have done it in the past because, you know,
they've been wrestling in skips for years.
They probably have done some wrestling shows
in the 꾹 powiedz 51 when they got it right.
So I think I did run a couple of sushi shows that they went in
on Saturday in outeroko just else I think.
Lot of down too cause there's people in the store
that can still
try to, you know, try to lyrics show at that
fue spend that a lot to make sure we get those shits up and exploitation,
then I think some major wrestling groups have gone in there before.
They have, yeah.
Cause they have the small ring that fits in there perfectly.
Yeah.
A couple last month, I think there was one honestly, cause I remember seeing
posters for it still, but, um, so I was, I was back and forth for about a half
an hour dispersing from code enforcement.
And I said, what, what type of, you know, I'm trying to figure out the parameters,
making sure I could even do this.
Cause skips is small to put a wrestling game.
I mean, yeah, it's cool.
It's got a balcony.
You can pay people.
He'd be on the stage to sit up there.
You can put people on the side, it's hard to squeeze that shit in there.
And I didn't want to get skips in trouble.
Well, cause they kept asking me if I'd run out of the other shows down there.
And I said, yeah, thatcher's outside and in their storage room.
And then they asked me, do you still run shows there?
And I said, no, but other people do well, unbeknownst to me, that
started a chain of events.
So because.
Shit, I had done shows there.
They went to go check.
Cause I said, someone else did.
I didn't say who I didn't say what I didn't say when I didn't say where I just said,
yeah, I want to do shows here.
I know people used to blah, blah, blah.
I love to do shows and they gave me all the information I needed.
And then they asked me, you were playing, I think they were playing, let me investigate
20 questions to see if they can get anybody in trouble more considerably.
Me, I think they were trying to get me in trouble for running at thatcher's, but I wasn't
running there anymore.
I said, someone else does.
I got told him, I literally told him, I was like, I got pushed out of there.
And other groups in there now.
So I couldn't tell you what's going on.
Would I literally try to deny everything?
Well, they sent to code enforcement in there.
Well, I guess Larry had left his ring up in the storage room.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh, sure.
Because Larry was the ring for and I guess Larry, I didn't even know he was doing it,
but he was training people back there.
He was in classes.
I had no idea.
Because I never want to get Larry in trouble.
I don't really have a personal problem with Larry.
I mean, we don't see eye to eye on certain wrestling situations, but neither does
everybody like I have no grievance with Larry.
And every time I see him, we shake hands.
I worked for him at the Bangor Fair.
Like I still work for him on fair days.
And now he has a hard time paying people for fares.
I have no personal qualm with Larry.
I didn't know that this was going to lead to them doing the investigation of thatchers.
I know that they were already had investigated skips and skips was up to date.
So I knew they really weren't going to do anything about it.
But through them to go down to thatchers, they went down to thatchers.
And they found Larry's ring in the storage room on that tilted floor.
And they got in the world of shit.
Violations go lower.
Wow.
Was it so was there like fines and stuff like that or was it?
I don't know.
Let's just say that that the building now is a used car dealership.
Here's Larry.
Never thought that one phone call about skips would have led to a chain of events.
But I will take I'll take responsibility for that.
But I never threw anybody on the bus.
Right.
They just asked me if I had ran anywhere else down in Southern Maine.
And I said, yes, thatchers.
And I took responsibility.
I said, yeah, I used to run there, but I got pushed around.
There's another group there now, to my knowledge, I don't run there anymore.
I'm trying to run at skips.
And they gave me the information, which I eventually did run at skips, like once or
twice, but it's not cost effective for me.
Your hands are clean.
I didn't care about thatchers.
I was just trying to get my information for skips.
They just I guess they sent someone over there.
But and then I didn't know Larry was teaching people and having to school up the
back was paying the owner money.
To rent the back room for teaching people.
So Larry had to go get his ring.
And I guess they got in trouble.
A couple of months later, they were shut down.
Next thing you know, they're used car dealership.
Yeah, they were going to shut down.
And then.
From that, because Randy was they're doing pretty good shows there.
And Randy was involved with Murdoch, so they gave it a whirl and tried running
Westbrook, this is what prompted limitless to move from Orono to Westbrook.
Right.
So, Randy, they had a show planned.
Down there and obviously it's canceled because.
It's so facto.
Can't run a show there if they're telling them to get the fucking ring out of the
storage room.
So Randy moved the show to the Westbrook Armory.
And got moved and did a limitless show there with part
the talent from that show and part limitless people.
And it turned out great. He kept going back.
So that's how actually how limitless started in Westbrook.
No kidding. Over a simple phone call, I guess that caused a bunch of issues.
But in my defense.
You didn't do anything wrong.
Yeah, I know. I was calling about my shit, so I can run back at skips.
It sounds like I had a hundred plus people coming and I had a fucking refund,
a bunch of tickets, and I want to go do this shit with some called code enforcement,
cancel the fucking show and ruin a business.
So in turn, I think the pettiness.
That started it is also what ended it, because whoever called skips code
enforcement on skips.
They're turning around. They got fucking same thing happened to fucking thatchers.
Right, exactly. Yeah.
Karma's bitch. But anyway, those shows that were in the back room of thatchers
that were Murdoch's and Randy's were let's Russell shows.
That's where they get the name for let's Russell.
They took it from there and they brought it to or no.
No kidding. Small world.
I love everybody leaves this. The story was over.
I don't care whatever.
So then this questions here, I saw a bunch of chats pop up.
Yeah, well, that's the questions.
And I want I really want to get into the because we hinted about it last show.
I really want to get into the road in your undefeated streak, as well as your match
with ace and your your limited title run with the let's Russell championship.
Because I know we talked about that a little bit before, and I'd like to,
you know, go over that on the podcast.
We have a. Let's see, let's go up here.
Come from Tyler, what's the craziest match?
Whether a really amazing one or a complete dirt
burner that you've seen in Big Bertha.
It was one of the matches and they had the crowd the entire time.
I think it was a 30 minute Iron Man match.
The three and Jeremy Prophet and Scotty Wild.
I remember this is one of my first.
They had the crowd the entire 30 fucking minutes.
And I was that's what I literally looked at both of them afterward.
And I said, we need to do more of these.
And we did like a best of seven series afterwards, which did not go well
because they couldn't make all the dates, but that match itself.
A 30 minute Iron Man match, I believe it was.
And they fucking tore it up for 30 fucking minutes.
That's crazy. That is.
But both of these things are also like phenomenal shape.
Wilde just hit his stride.
Profit was his stride. Well, fuck also.
I think I think it was a match with Quinn
and profit was really good to mark.
And you mentioned in that ring for as long as that time period,
like I remember the longest I ever worked in that ring was like Ultimate Survivor.
It was like 45 minutes of just the longer you went in Bertha,
it was just like screw shading this fog.
Give me a. I wish I was.
Said I broke my tailbone in that match.
All you think is that Wayne's world is sucking my will to live.
I wish I wish Randy.
I don't know if he's trying still not to get access to all those hard drives.
But we can find those masses with profit and wild.
They had some good ones. They also had some bad ones.
But that one in particular was in Brewer.
I think it was a 30 minute Iron Man match or something like that.
And it was fucking.
It was great. I remember sitting there watching it like fans as a fan watching.
They were telling an amazing story.
It wasn't just spots.
Gloria just like the whole amazing story.
They built everything up right like they you could.
You could tell that they were in their groove and they were.
They were feeling off everything and just working off the crowd
and then doing it, then doing what they need to do.
They were in crowds and they were feeling that shit out.
Yeah. Well, that makes it great.
That always makes a great match.
That always makes a great match. And the profits got wild.
And that's what actually gave me a big idea later on,
pushing Scottie Wilde for the heavyweight title.
Well, because he was the only one that's just like, I'm here to wrestle.
And he proves it right there.
He's under here to wrestle and I said, no, eventually he dropped.
Eventually, when they had their program was over,
profit, Jerry Profit and Scottie Wilde's problem was over.
Their last match actually was kind of a dud because Scottie Wilde was mad.
He was losing. I explained to him, like, well, dude,
you're I didn't tell him right off the bat because I didn't want him to.
No, I want to surprise him.
He was all pissy out back.
I'm like, what is it? Why did you take the belt off me and give it to profit?
I said.
I'm pushing you for the heavyweight title,
so I can't have you have both belts there, champ. Yeah, he goes.
Really? Like, yeah, he's like,
is that why your match was so skunky?
And he looks at me and he goes. Yeah.
I would have to know if
I might even would have had a different change of heart.
I'm like,
like, dude, when do I ever tell a back in JP will test this?
When do I ever tell people what they were doing?
Unless it was announced on the graphic.
To show up. Yeah, I did.
The book you're mad.
I would never tell people, like, wait, what someone would ask me, hey,
what am I doing? And I'm like, wrestling.
I first like six months to a year, I just obviously like in being in training
with you and everything, like showing up during your crew.
Like, I didn't expect to be on any any show even after I wrestled once.
Like, there were times where I didn't.
But like, I still showed up and I was like, am I doing something cool?
If I'm not, whatever.
Like, I got that mentality because that was an old school mentality that you
taught us. And that's what I always expected.
Every time I went anywhere else, even outside of IWE, like I went to NCW
and I did the same thing.
Eventually, I worked every single show that I had ever been on.
I did that all around because you had taught me that perspective.
Like, you you're not going to explain anything to anyone.
Like, unless like it's something like like long game storyline, whatever.
Like, you know, it's guaranteed.
But as far as like that, if it's just somebody you're booking on the show,
like you're not going to, you know, you're going to let them know
when it's going to happen at the day of.
Like, that's right.
Well, you know, it's like I told people, like, there'll be match graphics for matches.
And I spread them out.
I'm a big proponent of spreading things out.
If you know this, if you know this,
with ring wars, my posts every Monday, Wednesday and sometimes Friday.
Why? I'm spreading the shit out.
It's like it's like a bird shot.
You're shooting at a say you're shooting at a duck that's flying through the air.
Well, I'm going to hit more of it with a bird shot than I am with a slug.
Right.
You want a broad spectrum that shit.
I'm going to hit more people looking at stuff.
And so actually shot a duck with a slug.
You get a lot left of her shot, too.
Thank you.
So my point being is you're going to get more hits from more spread out.
And also, it gives people some look forward to that.
Wonder where to go post next.
Right.
Obviously, you see, there's only been three match announcements.
There's probably going to be three to four more, most likely.
You know, you're going to get promo.
You're going to get the content.
I was a big host of the promo today.
Right.
When I ran my first like MPW show,
and see what that said, we'll get back to you.
I know.
I was like, you know, I strategically
posted match graphics in a way where it wasn't all.
Great buzz. Great buzz.
Generate buzz because I would wait until everyone had already like you got the most
to the most out of the most recent one, then you drop the next one.
Let them react and everything that you could to an extent.
And you just kept doing that.
And I did that between MPW and other places that I did.
So graphic work for I did that and it worked.
It got people invested in it because if you dropped it all at once and then just
forgot about it, like people are going to forget what the card is or people are going
to work over and the thing is, is like you here is also a dilemma with with
post sharing as a whole, I don't run into as much a ring wars as everybody knows.
You either share my shit because I will see if you don't.
And then you get in trouble.
He keeps the night.
So my my my lot of people in modern generation don't want to share shit that's
not theirs.
And I go.
Listen.
You're on the show with these people, right?
So you want them to share your shit, though, but you won't share their shit.
Do you not want people in the Zines?
Because I'm pretty sure we all want to wrestle and, you know, a packed crowd,
at least at least 100 or more or something.
You want to have some a crowd there of some sort of no one's there to watch you.
Yeah, no one cares.
Right. You got a match in the fucking world.
But if no one sees you, doesn't matter.
Exactly.
So here just for just one person, it's for everyone.
Right. That's a name.
Then they might be there for one person.
But exactly.
They can count. That's different.
But no one's going to see you or see us or see Dylan or see Big Cat that had never
seen them before because they came for somebody else and they'll see them
wrestling and go, oh, I actually like how that person performed or that person's dog.
The ideology like it's the same thing with the ideology with posturing.
Like you put up for every poster you put up, you hope one person sees it and buys
a ticket. Mind you, the theory isn't sound because it doesn't work that way.
But
it's a good theory.
If you if you're playing up 500 posters
in the greater area that you're running,
if one person saw every poster decided to buy a ticket.
You would have 500 people, right?
For the most part, I'd say it works.
One fifth.
Or one fourth.
Of the amount.
So you get a quarter.
Right. Or less.
That's the realist of it.
But you hope.
Especially now, because the social media
posturing is not as vivid as it used to be important as the back of the day.
Back of the day is super important.
Now, I think social media based, but I still put out a hell of a ton of posters.
Oh, Tardy, the ref will tell you he's the one that usually hangs out with me
in the car and he's also got his buddy that helps him go poster and shout out
for being a team player.
Yeah.
I mean, I compensate them too, because they're out for the day.
So they need to have money for food and gas and also something to put in their pocket.
So.
Anyhow, but yeah, so.
People just want to share their own shit.
That pisses me off, but like, you know,
or OK, then if you don't want to share everybody's shit.
Thank you, Kevin.
And if you.
You're not going to share any other shit,
then at least share the event page exactly.
I don't get that personally, because at least if you share the event page.
Yeah, because like you share the stuff in the chat with us and you're like, hey,
guys, do you like as much as I busted out there?
But like, you know, you're like, hey, new thing, share it.
It takes what?
30 seconds didn't share a moment you shit you posted in the chat.
Share it immediately.
Well, here's the funniest part, too.
It takes 10 seconds.
Because you share it to the chat, share it to the chat.
So all you have to do is click on it.
Once it opens, you get to share button and then post
10 seconds.
You don't even have to make a
you don't have to write anything, you don't even write anything.
You have to like you have to comment.
Just share the fucking thing.
Right. And it's more money in your pocket because more people will be.
Because if you have merch, you can then
share your sell your merch to these people.
Right.
The algorithm, whether you write something and I'm going to put this in perspective
for you because a lot of people don't seem to understand this.
But back in the day, I was the only guy in town for a reason.
And this is in blue on my horn, this is telling you how this works.
You're not going to like it.
The promoters only lose so much money
till they say, I'm not doing this no more.
Me.
If I had never done TV, I probably would have made a lot of money.
TV stopped up a lot of my money.
I'm going to tell you this.
I know how much a promoter
is only going to run so many shows and keep losing money.
Because it's going to affect their livelihood.
It's going to affect their family.
It's going to affect everything.
So look at every promotion that you wrestle for or you see around right now.
They're either breaking even or they're getting in the green.
And that's good.
But the instant they start losing a lot of money and they disappear.
Don't be surprised because
they're all partly responsible if you're not helping do the part of share
and getting it out there.
There's the worst part when you actually do the work and he'll actually help
that company and whatnot and they still draw 15 people and they say they can't
pay you also depends on the area like
or you can't draw in the middle.
Like I got venues that I could go to.
There's actually a venue right out by Alexander Lee's house out in Hudson.
I could never use it, though, because no one's ever going to go out to Hudson.
Yeah.
And talked about that when we were living together.
He was like, oh, man, I could totally rush.
I'm like, I'm like, do you really want to do that?
I'm like, do you really want to get Rogers Market to sell the tickets would be great.
But that'd be the only way it works.
And you'd have to push it for like six months.
People are going to have to drive there.
Now it's terrible driving to terrible roads, terrible driving.
No, it's a good size venue.
Then you'd like that all over the place, but no one you can't run there.
Right.
I'm on falls only works because of the the rest of the
convenience slash grocery store across street.
Yeah, the center of town.
Yeah, it's only way Island Falls ever works.
But one question.
Exactly. So Maverick is asked is it true the rookies from dirt?
The dirty dragon were scared to work in
the dirt.
And the dirty dragon.
And the dirty dragon were scared to work me.
I don't know.
Old school mentality.
Probably because I was the old guy and they probably thought I'd beat him up.
Also, probably because
a lot of them were trained by like five different people instead of just one.
There's a lot of those dirty dungeon guys were trained through the IW.
Actually, after I had sold it,
the IW tried doing their own tricks like summer training school.
Oh, I remember
I remember what it was is I used to run training weeks back in the day
where the ring would be up for a week and everybody could come.
And I would tell people in advance so they can plan it out.
We'd have our four to six shows a month,
but we would do a student show at the end of this training week.
So the ring would go up on a Sunday night
after the country jam in city sides, Baker Hall.
Everybody would show up. We set the ring up
and it'd be up from that Sunday night.
To the show the following Saturday, did you say country jam?
I do a country jamboree every Sunday during the day.
Okay, cool.
Right.
People there playing banjos and manganet tambourines.
It was cool.
A bunch of old people.
It was actually kind of sweet.
That's kind of nice. It's refreshing.
I never stayed, but like it was good to see a bunch of old people
having a good time with people they knew and eating good food.
And anyway, don't forget the sand race.
Geez.
I hear that, bro. So I'm going to get to the point, though.
Sunday. So that Sunday night, the ring would go up.
It would be up all week to that following Saturday.
So it'd be up for almost a week.
And people would know in advance because we'd have our show big shows
at the beginning of the month, and this would be a student show.
So a lot of students would be all the students would be on the show
as long as they trained during that week.
And that's where I could help build up their matches and kind of agent
some of the shit, work on new moves and spots, get everybody nice
and seasoned for their show.
So they didn't look like shit in front of their friends and family.
And it'd be a cheap ticket day.
The tickets were like five bucks.
Five dollar tickets, front rows were ten, five dollar tickets.
So anybody could go and it would pack the place because all the wrestlers that are
in training got to have all their friends and family come for five bucks a wax.
If you had like five people in your family, 25 bucks are coming in.
You know what I mean?
And the money was literally going to pay for the training week.
I have none of this.
People, the guys would come in, pay a daily fee.
It'd be like 10 bucks to come train that day.
So you can come in every day, be 10 bucks a day.
Anyway, if you paid me your monthly fee is included, so you don't pay anything.
But anyway, the training week would happen.
We train, have the show on this on the Saturday and all the money from the
training from the show and the training week paid for the week's worth of rental
from Cityside.
Well, they thought I got that for free by they mean, Bomb and Sonny.
No,
that's how I paid for it.
At the end of the week on the Saturday after the show was over,
I paid for that entire week from the show proceeds and then everybody's training
money from that week, I paid for it.
If there was anything left, cool.
Great.
I got a little something out of my time because otherwise I made nothing.
The training week was for the students.
These guys decided to run their own training weeks at Cityside.
Never paid.
I was trying to look up a photo I had that I took, but I couldn't find it.
Never pay.
There's a photo somewhere that I took.
And they would get like, Bomb would show up to help train.
Sonny would have trained.
I think I had Shory helping.
Yeah.
What the Dirty Dungeon got created out of this was all the students from there.
Eventually, those those those summertime training classes stopped.
It was very brief, very sad because they didn't pay.
And they told them, get the ring out of there.
You can't leave it here no more.
So they had no place left to go.
Well, the Dirty Dungeon started.
They had this like barn
slash garage thing.
I was really like you and you had to sneak into the place.
It was creepy as fuck.
I could tell you all about it because I was there for the entire process.
It was creepy as fuck.
And I hated all the way like I've waited out.
I hate the whole process of this.
I hated all these students that were like half as trained.
I give it to Killian for trying to clean up
the proverbial mess that he didn't start killing and try to clean up.
He was cleaning up a mess that he did not start.
I tried to help him too, but it was kind of just like he knew it was going to go
anywhere because it was so sporadic and it was never, never planned.
And then to be people that would be training there every day.
But then there'd be nobody training.
Like if someone has trained there once a month and I'm like,
this is not how you run a school.
Same time.
I mean, there was weekly training sessions at the same time.
This was also literally right before
the limitless Dojo became a thing.
Once the only place available in the dungeon,
that the entire dirty dunes dissipated.
They also it also dissipated because the place where I was at was kind of like
falling apart. Oh, the ring was falling apart.
I can tell you some fucking horror stories about that place.
Not even just about the integrity of the building.
Unfortunately, this is a building that roadblock
had gotten for for Sean.
And one ended up happening was roadblock would go and use the ring time to go
spend and do whatever in the ring.
The problem was he was leaving all the fucking lights on.
So this dumb shit would rack up electricity bill for the guy that owned
the entire property.
So when it came to paying the rent or paying the bill
monthly, it increased.
And we were like, well, why is it so much?
And they're like, oh, because the electricity bill went up.
And we're like, well, why is the electricity bill going up?
When we're there, we shut all the lights off.
This fucking dumbass would fucking go there in the middle of the night
or on the day that we weren't doing training and just I don't know who the fuck
he was doing shit with, but he wasn't like
training with anybody and he would leave all the fucking shit on and leave.
And probably throwing a girl the ring and then trying to get all some some if you
know what I mean, that's that's an old school trick.
At one point, I called them out.
This was again years ago, 2018.
I called them out and I was just like, what the fuck are you leaving lights on?
And he's like, I never left lights on.
I'm like, we literally have to.
Also, that place is a fire hazard, so like if you left the heaters on to
in the lights on that thing, could that building was falling apart?
We had heaters on that fucking place, but it was when it was being supervised.
This dumb shit was fucking leaving all the shit on and leaving and just going home.
And I'm like, are you fucking retarded?
I'm like, obviously, you're probably trying to show someone the shit
and then trying to use hot shit and trying to get some.
You know, that's probably what it was.
It's a show off move.
It's stupid in old school and terrible.
We also made them for him.
I told him I was like, you either turn the shit off going forward or you're not
welcome back. I don't give a fuck if you have the building or not.
He wasn't even paying anything for the building.
We were the ones paying shit to the building.
He was just the one that had the contact.
He wasn't paying fucking shit for the building.
We were the Sean and me were the ones that were paying for the building.
And so continuing the story
to answer the question, the dirty, kids were scared of me.
That was also, I think, instilled from certain circumstances.
First things first, I remember.
I don't know if I should bring this up.
Sorry, J.P., bring it up.
Hey, listen, here we go.
No, I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to do it.
It'll be OK. You bring up whatever you want.
I'm going to go.
JP was helping with this at school with Killian
and it was all public online.
And on one of the posts, it said that somebody over here
was trained at New England Pro Wrestling Academy.
I yeah, JP, you had trained there a couple of times.
Yeah, probably six months.
I trained there for six months and a certain owner,
right, theory, saw it and proceeded to rip someone a new asshole.
Yeah, because I didn't say the whole time that I paid for.
Yes. So.
That was probably one incident.
I probably got blamed for that, even though it was not my fault.
I was six months with you, six months of theory.
And then you came back and did more with me.
I did more with you, but I also at the same time when I was still in New Hampshire,
I did stuff with
Owen Brody.
He doesn't want to say it, but he did six, six, six, six months with me, six months
and six back with me because that's the devil's number.
Devil, devil Johnson still booked me.
Well, you know, when you put in six, six and six, that's six, 12, 18 months.
Eventually you're going to have to have a match sometime again.
And I had a match after my first year.
I was still training, but I was also.
I know, I know, because I remember the day we talked to cut.
I talked about it because you're like,
how long do I have to keep paying training for?
I said, oh, I say so, because you suck.
And then you find I wrestled 11 months after my first year.
And I got the 16-month training session.
Zach Zach, same month and then Josie and Amber probably two months before it
because they cut on together, which they're not that they're natural.
Yes.
But to finish, the last part of why the
dirty Dungeon Kids are probably scared to work me.
I'm going to give to actually kill you.
So I gave him comment commendations
for picking up being trying to clean up the mess and fixing it.
But I also heard him say a few things about my
the way I train compared to the way he trains
and I have no problem saying
I train better than you
don't ever criticize me
ever
if he's watching this I have no problem with you
but I know what you said about me
keep that in mind
okay
that's why the kids were scared of me
and JP knows that's why he's laughing we kind of turned his face he's losing his nose there
and a Kevin Hanser
I'm sure but you know what I'm talking about too
oh yeah no that 100
the only thing you need to learn to not keep my name out of his mouth
I yeah
yeah yeah yeah
he ain't done shit compared to what I've done
so this is me getting a little pissed off
but this is me saying thank you and him
for cleaning up the mess that he didn't start
but also saying
keep my name out your mouth I know we have no problem now
and this is all water under the bridge
but you know what you did and what you said to those kids
and now guess what they all learned the exact opposite
hence why they came and saw me at the dojo and left you
and now look at where most of those kids
you're welcome
they went to the dojo
because I was there full time when they came up
they made the right choice
that's why some of them are currently watching and talking about it in this chat
because they learned the truth
that way
on my screen right
the chat's down here to me where they pop up
the one that this is maybe just being
anyway get into them is it
all the
the
and all learned from me at the dojo and I help train them leaps and bounds from where they were
and they realized, they realized the truth. They also respect Killian
because they helped them.
When they all got left abandoned by the IWE school
there was nothing, there was nothing.
They still respect him
but they respected me more to tell me the shits he used to say about me
and that's why Jason brought up why he used to be scared from me.
Thank you Jason.
Continuing on, other questions that popped up that I missed.
I think that's about it.
How long should a trainee or rookie pay their dues?
Depends on how long it takes them to learn this business.
Everybody learns at a different rate and different speed.
I think we talked about this in a different podcast but
Frankie Flash, I said who's also the person I'm
wrestling at Ring Wars, tie in.
He got his name because of how quickly he learned.
He trained a lot in three months and was inside of a ring.
I thought it was a Flash Horton or a Spirals.
I mean he is a lot of the Flash Horton.
Everybody is different, everybody goes like it's usually between like
You just, you heard like you were just talking about
Amber and Jossie getting a match for y'all because they quicked it up so quickly.
It's like eight or nine months and then it all depends on how quickly you learn.
But you never, you never stop paying dues but
because honestly we don't, I don't owe wrestling.
Wrestling owes us.
Yeah. And that's for everybody.
If anybody says they think they're owed something, you're not old shit.
I'm not old shit.
Wrestling has ruined parts of my life.
It's also created parts of my life.
We owe wrestling.
Wrestling has ruined my hip.
Coffee, I don't drink anymore.
I know.
And all the same.
But honestly, though, if you like, we talked about with JP here,
like he just said he did six, six and six.
Six with me, six with New England, professional academy, then another six with me.
Before he was fully like done, done with having to pay and do weekly trainings.
Or monthly trainings, however you want to look at it.
But like even then, and then, then he got to find out what pay was.
There was a certain level you have to reach before we can like,
someone goes, you don't, like I'm not going to tie you down to keep trading.
And there's some people that probably should be tied down to keep training
because they can't retain shit or the crap.
I know a couple of those.
But my point being is you'll know when the time is because your trainers will tell you
or the or someone will also hint to you like, yeah, you're about to you can fly the net.
You can you can leave the very, very next now.
I remember.
The next number on the very.
My thing, because it was Amber and Amber kind of came up to me and she's like,
you ready for the rumble? I was like, what?
She's like, yeah, Rumbles next month. You ready?
I was like, am I in it?
And she's like, yep, get your shit. I was like, OK.
You'll be out of royal.
So and I and I and I knew five minutes before I was going out that I was like, what?
So that's if that answers that question.
They never stop paying dues, as I said, but with the training things like leaving the next stuff,
you learn also you got to take care of yourself and watch out to the people
will fucking take advantage of you.
Like I remember I was I will tell this.
I'm not going to give the time frame, but back when I was doing weekly shows
in Old Town for New Wrestling Horizons or NAWA, depending on the time frame,
I don't remember exactly, but I remember one of my first actual paydays
because I was still paying a lot of dues.
I was wrestling twice a night, putting the ring up and tearing it down.
And at one point got.
I got I got to say I got an upgrade.
I was the head of the ring crew.
I remember I got paid when Sonny, when when Bob took over, he called me one day
and was like, do you want to be in the crew?
And I was like around the time Mark moment was the head of the ring crew
and he got demoted and I got promoted.
And around the time I got promoted, I was helping set up a tear down the ring
and wrestling twice once as Mason X once as myself.
But I remember getting Sonny come over to me with the money box
and dumping the change into my hand.
He's like, there should be over 10 bucks there.
It's all yours.
Wow.
I think my first thing I realized I should have chosen something else.
Then my friend paid in.
But that's that's paying dues, paying dues.
And that's just how it works.
There's always a story like that.
My first my first payday by Eric Johnson, ever in wrestling.
Five dollars.
I like four hours away.
Yeah, I think it's always like five.
You're also getting squashed.
So it was like one of your first true five.
No, but there was five dollars payday for like the first like I want to say.
Yes, because you're still paying dues.
Like I just felt bad giving you nothing because I like I didn't.
I remember me getting nothing for weeks.
Mind you, that $10 doesn't change. Yeah.
I'd work weeks and weeks.
This was weekly shows, guys.
On plus weekends.
Yeah, I got nothing.
For weeks and weeks and weeks of wrestling.
Mind you. So think of this as like six to seven match shows a month.
Sometimes wrestling twice a show.
Nothing for weeks and months.
And then I finally get my first $10 payday
when I got promoted to ring had a ring crew.
So you had a better than I did.
Yeah, you're welcome.
And I couldn't give you nothing and said, Good job tonight.
You could have told me to fuck no hot dog bears and a kid
for a whole year. You could have told me to fuck off.
You know, see, you even say like, so now you're like, oh, wow.
After hearing his story, mine sounds so much better.
It's like it's like a four hour drive and the like the pruners like, oh, yeah.
You came down here. You wrestled two matches in about a while.
Here's 10 bucks. I go to NCW.
I used to tell you guys, make sure you get your shit all situated
before you leave your house.
Yeah. Yeah.
I went to NCW for a whole year and JC probably paid me 10 bucks
and I was still driving over an hour for like, you know, an hour.
No problem with JC, but I do have a problem when I have to chase him for money.
I remember this is one of the last times I went down there
and David, David Loomis.
Yeah, Loomis stood up for us.
He was me and Ben, me.
It was the MSP moniker was also the nickname for the car load
that used to travel a lot together, which was me, Primer, Ben, who drove
and and Chamberlain, Alex Chamberlain.
We all were the main state posse, because we used to travel all the shows,
whether it be slam awesome wrestling in Vermont or NCW
or any of those other random shows in the middle of nowhere.
We had to drive hours and hours to and we came down to one point,
it was just me.
And then.
And my Mercury Mystique traveling down to NCW shows
because my Mercury Mystique used to be great on gas.
And I was a boat, too, so like, good luck damaging that fire.
Anyway, we go down.
And every time it was like we had a fight to get our pay.
Thank you, sir.
And.
Eventually, one time we were waiting around, waiting around,
like we even helped with the ring, we stayed there till everything was done.
And they were like clean and sweeping the floors.
And we looked at Loomis and Loomis looked at us because he knew we looked
defeated and tired and we wanted to go home and we were like,
we want to go home, but we know we have to keep chasing J.C.
around for money. So Loomis is like, follow me.
We followed him into the bar.
And Loomis is there doing money.
And I see Loomis come up behind J.C. and like shut like.
Tap him, get his attention and they start talking.
And then he points over at us and you can tell him you can see him go,
give them their fucking money so they can go home.
So yeah, new world.
So thanks to Loomis, we got our pay.
But after that, one of those times, that was one of the last times that me.
And one of the last times that me and Ben went down.
This is me and Feeney.
Yeah, you and Feeney.
Well, it's like that.
And you may answer me, but you were you.
You and that's you know, you're doing a dance off. Yeah.
Well, it's the same thing with me in next.
We've had the same issue with shows just like in Massachusetts.
Give us the fucking money so we can go home.
As a promoter, I understood because I'm sure Massachusetts venues
are a lot more expensive than venues up here.
This goes to Massachusetts.
And on top of that, he used to have WrestleMania size locker rooms.
Oh, yeah.
Because he would never tell anybody what he would never tell anybody.
He would never tell anybody, no.
Yep. Everybody was a yes.
And he was here.
So he would tell you in advance, we're going to well, we can give.
We'll give you some work.
And I respected that.
But when you have arrangements like me and Ben, we had an arrangement with him
because we had been going down for so long on and off, on and off, on and off.
I even tagged as a member of MSP one time as MSP.
Right. With them, because
Chamberlain moved and Primer wasn't going down anymore
because he was tired of dealing with J.C.
And he got into a I think he got into an inside a fight in the locker room one time.
Yeah. Oh, crap. Who was it with?
I remember him telling me the story.
You know, that was a knockoff fucking Spider-Man.
Yeah. Yes, yes, yes.
Crap. Well, it was later.
He's he's better now. He was Brandon Webb. Brandon Webb.
Yeah, that's it. That's it.
Oh, Brandon.
When he was doing the Spider-Man knockoff, the creeper or whatever,
that didn't age well down, did it?
And that's the creeper with a K, the creeper with a K.
I'm real quick.
Yeah. So any anyhow, I I went down on three different occasions.
I went down at the time I said I tagged with Ben was there for that was a stint.
And then I did a stint as
Prince Aziz.
Oh, I was an oil tycoon prince
with the whole headdress and
kind of stick in the whole outfit and all day.
And then I did Jive and Jimmy toward the end, which was the one most over one.
So eventually the last one of the last shows I went down
at Rush old Scott Ashworth, who used to do doink
like an actual shoot, legit doink like he does really good doing.
And he also did a used to do film shows as doing
on a bunch of the big Indies and in appearances and stuff. And
I wrestled Scott and I are friends and the J.C. knew that.
And he was bringing Scott in to work the show and he's like, you want to work?
Doink, I think it'd be great because you do jam.
Jimmy, it'd be funny to work doing.
I'm like, yeah, I think that'd be awesome.
Mind you, I love Scott, but he was half in the bag when I wrestled him.
And I had just hurt my ankle, but I didn't want to screw over
Scott because I was coming down to see him and wrestle him.
So I came down and we're Scott Ashworth, the busted ankle.
And I remember being given shit
about how much the latch went long.
And I'm like, you got to talk to Scott, because I try to call
I should go home all the time.
But Scott kept wanting to hit his comedy spots is doing.
And I really said, I said, also, he's drunk.
So I don't know what you want me to do with him.
He's my friend. I'm not going to tell the guy who's my senior
in the veteran of the match, who's also doing the clown.
No. Yeah.
But I got to heat because they're not going to put the heat on J.C.
and put the heat on me. Call it like the curtain call.
You couldn't put the heat on Kevin Nash and Scott Hawks.
He was leaving the couldn't put the heat on the HBK because he's the champ.
Well, I was the triple H in that situation.
Yeah. So I didn't get invited back, but I was also tired of chasing my money down.
So you being the she kind of reminds me of it was a let's wrestle.
Prince. Just overused.
Yeah. Also respect to the other sheiks.
Of course.
But it just reminds me one of those one of these stupid moments.
It was funny as hell. It was that a let's wrestle show.
You were in your red, green and white cigglet.
And Paul Dowling is like, go back to Mexico.
And you stopped and look right at Paul.
It's because I'm Italian.
Italian. It's because he called me a spick.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. You hear that part. Ask Brandi about it.
I did not hear that part.
Paul said a lot of fucked up shit back.
He's gotten better, but yeah, he's here.
What he said verbatim. Go back to Mexico.
You're fucking spick.
So he said to me, I miss I said, I said, well, excuse me.
So first off, I'm Italian. Second off, that's messed up.
There's kids here. Yeah.
And he's like, I don't care.
I don't care.
I had one of them now.
He like he's and I have no problem with Paul either, but like he knew.
I mean, he even said afterwards that intermission when I saw him,
they knew he screwed up when he said that.
Do you remember this way?
He never says that word now to like out loud like that.
Like you don't see that shit in private.
No one's yell out in front of people and yeah, kids and whatnot.
So yeah, if I'm singing a song that's got shit like that in it,
like I'm just jamming out in my car.
No one's going to care.
But like, can't be doing that shit in public to people. That's not OK.
Yeah, you're not going to walk.
How many people in that how many people in that audience were Latino
that heard them like, oh, it's not OK. Yeah.
Can't be doing that shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
And you know, start throwing hands.
Hot dog and handshake. Yeah.
No, I was literal back in the day.
I literally was.
Oh, I'm telling you, those old town shows back in the day,
those weekly hometown, there was sometimes it was a hot dog and a hot
handshake because it was just how it works.
By the way, that's what I said.
I can just see only paid me ten dollars each.
That's what I were. Oh, oh, you want to hear this?
Actually, speaking of that situation, I worked with for J.C.
for a full two years. I missed like four shows.
I was part of the biggest heel group in the company.
I took most of the frickin pins, too.
But it's because I was the rookie, of course.
And the same thing, I'd get like 15 bucks.
I'm like, J.C., you realize I'm driving three and a half to four hours
to get here, right? Can I at least have gas money?
Or should be tag along with friends?
It's because you've seen the locker room, right?
Yeah, huge. He doesn't tell anybody that he will give you work.
He tells you to be in it, too.
Don't tell me you don't, because he did give you work.
You know, to have you.
But that's where it ends.
Like he's got to he takes care of everybody.
He does. He doesn't not pay you.
And the problem is he can't favor ties like toward the end.
When the last shows, this is back in the day when I worked at Scott Ashworth day.
I got my 40 bucks back then.
Jesus.
I love that. Because me and Ben were seniors.
Me and Ben were seniors.
We've been there for like on and off forever.
And that's where it ended.
My last show.
It was me, John.
It was me, Josie Amber, Ben driving in one car.
We had gotten there like 15 minutes before the show started.
Granted, like we had to wait before certain people got out of work.
So and J.C. knew this.
J.C. decided to put me on first, regardless.
And I was in a six man tag.
Oh, and we had Calvin Strange with us.
Oh, so so.
You know, quite a powerful.
We had a six man tag, whereas me, Calvin and some dude versus Triple
Isis, um, like great bro and Foxy Calvin Campbell.
And we couldn't call anything beforehand.
We did it on the fly.
And this was like they're going away show for the year.
And we open that we open that show garbage because we had no time
to fucking play it for it.
And after that show, I was like, yeah, I'm all set.
Like, like if this is how it's going to be, I'm all set.
Well, to be real with you, um, you showing up 15 minutes before the show
is not J.C.'s problem.
That's your problem.
Right.
Right. Secondly, secondly, it's a six man tag.
There's six of you talk.
Thirdly, thirdly, thirdly, into the venue.
We didn't know what we were doing until we walked into the show.
I understand that, but you showed up just before the doors open or before.
Right before the doors open or before the show started.
Before the show started.
That's your own fault.
JP, I'm going to bust you here.
So I had to say, is it the Brunner's fault or your fault?
JP's fault.
Raise your hand.
I know, but it's your carloads fault.
You rose your hand.
It's your carload.
Okay.
I get you want to ride all together and save gas, but if someone's not going to
be get out in time for y'all get there, at least before the doors open.
Yeah.
That's your fault.
I understand your frustration, but it's a six man.
That means there's six of you.
You guys can talk and communicate between six of you.
That should make it easier.
Headlocks and arm bars for fuck's sake until you figure out a spot.
Did you not hear who the six people Fox is a good one?
This is awesome.
Triple H is a hell of a worker.
Triple H has been doing this a hell of a long time.
I would love to work.
Is this your position?
Trigger the OG.
Yeah, I love working trigger.
I've worked with everyone else.
We've been doing it for a long time.
But it's a long time.
Very good.
Awesome.
So yeah, I've been like, let's run the run the deal because he would have been
when when when Randy started bringing him up to do with the unit.
I was like, that was smart because he's a man like you know.
But then now he doesn't bring up the unit anymore.
Oh, well, like he he was like, anytime he ever came up here
for any shows that were up here, it's great.
Yo, I remember the the vacation land show where it was me, Trigger,
Maverick and Montero and so on.
Let's not talk about redacted for us.
Well, no, I mean, that was a fun match.
I've gone back and watched it a couple of times.
The only thing I did that Phoenix Pro version zero version zero.
Yeah, I just remember Mike Montero landing on my head for that show
and him like rolling over and go, shit, and you OK, sorry.
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So you have my Chikara gear because you wanted it so badly.
So you you don't seem to understand, sir.
There's this great thing called my I don't know if you noticed my really nice looking gear.
I have someone who makes that shit.
He has a connection. Yeah, I know.
So I had somebody.
A gear maker.
Making me a pair of Jive and Jimmy shorts like I used to wear.
I used to wear the pleather shorts, the plain pleather shorts.
Well, these ones aren't flame because I have plenty of flame gear.
I was like, give me something different.
These ones have like cool stripes and bullet holes and cool things like that on it.
They're coming.
They're going to be here hopefully in time.
Each day. He says already in the mail.
So I don't know how true that is.
He already sent me pictures of it, so I assume they're done.
But so you're saying we'll see a Jiving Jimmy in July?
Well, a certain someone from Bell to Bell Promotions saw the podcast and said,
don't mean when I said my price, they said, God,
I said, also, you got to pay for the gear.
And he went, done.
I'm like, you're an editor anyway.
He's going to pay me.
I sure as.
Wow. He's going to pay me to pay.
He's going to pay for the shorts.
I already have singlets. I don't need a.
I have plenty of them. So I'm going to ask me.
And they obviously still have vests.
So I don't worry about the best.
I'm going to fucking miss it. God damn it.
I won't be there.
After he's been eating, he's under one condition.
What the fuck do you have already booked that far?
And he said, one condition now.
There's one condition.
There's one condition I had to do it also.
He had me. He was adamant.
I had to come out to return the Mac by Mark Morrison.
Oh, you have to. If you don't, there's no point in driving.
Yeah. All right.
All right. I'll download it.
I'll record it. I think you have your baby on my birthday.
So the baby's the baby's going to be born.
Hopefully having another baby.
Yes, I guess.
God damn machine.
I'm worried because she might be put early.
And would you be quiet?
The last week of May, I have a lot of shit that I really need to be at.
And if she gets put early, I can't do those shows.
I'm going to be really sad if I won't be able to do those shows.
That that is the next.
I bless your stamina. Just pump in the fucking grind.
But I'm not saying as much as them and I believe that woman alone.
This is the last one. This is number three.
This is the last one. She wanted that girl.
So that next time I see her, I'm just go up to her and hug her.
Go. I'm so sorry.
I'm sorry.
I told him to leave you alone and he won't.
It's probably the kind of
that she'd be like, I want that damn girl.
It's not working out.
That's probably the.
It's hard to get. I'm going to tell you a quick story.
My cousin, Sean, him and his wife wanted a girl.
They had now have five kids.
Yeah, this is number three.
They did have a girl. She was the youngest.
Do you know what the gender is yet? Yes. OK.
What is it?
Technically, I'm not supposed to say
because technically I don't know what it is.
Wow. I don't know if you guys heard, but the hint was that he's all done
after this one, so that obviously means it's a girl.
And you need to hint anymore.
Like he does regardless if it's a girl or not.
This is the last one.
So yeah, I find very pure bullshit in that, even if it wasn't.
So the podcast took a left turn.
So yeah, we've got more shit yet, but let's get finished.
The question stuff. Anything else that pop in the chat?
I see a lot of these questions.
Roblox, the theater is.
Yes. Yeah.
Oh, I think that's a good that's not answering that.
Damn it. God damn it.
I'm trying to hide it.
Cat freaking. I'm not touching it.
It's JP. Whoever.
There you go. Leave me alone.
She's second version of IW suck because the owners and me
and me was in the process of starting prior to let's go.
Cat, you missed the comma there.
The second version of IW suck because of the owners.
And he was in the process of starting.
I'm sorry, my boss wasn't as long as yours.
Fuck that.
So these bitch ass because I can tell you, I can tell you
some information through this.
Let me tell you some information to that.
Yeah, sure.
So he is not lying about part of that.
Like he was in the process of trying to run his own deal.
Turner used to run shows with Ryan who runs global
and then want to do his own deal.
But he wanted to create his own company.
Well, a certain someone
had IW and was in the verge of selling,
but also had rights to many other companies such as there was and CW,
which was a now eight and Andrews old promotion.
And if you remember, there was an Emmy W promotion that someone bought.
This guy.
So I gave Turner the blessing
to use Emmy W.
No kidding.
I didn't back then because I had already acquired it.
A lot of companies, when they went out of business,
I made them offers to buy them out of whatever stuff they had left.
Belts. Did you pay vacation?
No. Can't buy someone that's not worth anything.
But by by buying something, I mean potential value,
potential value.
I'm giving you some business quotes, guys. Just listen.
When you buy something, it has to have that.
I mean, whether it be to you personally or as a business sense with Emmy W,
when I got it from them, it was falling out.
They had made a name for themselves when they brought AJ Styles into the state.
That was a hell of a show.
Even the best part of this much of Mark moments life.
And that's all.
It's not until the end.
I know you told it personally, but not really quick.
The Mark moment about that.
Can we tell you about it?
Yeah, I wasn't part of it.
I wasn't a part of it. I can only tell you what I know.
Yeah, they're running at the old.
The rec center by the Cross Insurance Center there,
the one that Rampage Pro Wrestling ran for many a year.
It's right by the casino and the Cross Insurance Center.
It's a giant gymnasium on fire and they're the old rampage.
She's run their huge venue.
Well, they brought AJ Styles in.
A good solid roster of workers, real good guys across New England
that they brought in a moment, wrestled AJ Styles moment was in the shape of his life.
20 minute match with AJ Styles didn't puke.
It did amazing.
They put them on the map.
They put them on the map in Maine.
And after that, they brought in other names like they brought Taven up,
which I used to use on a regular occasion.
They do stuff with the Robinson.
And then the match that killed the company as well, which was Christopher Daniels.
Christopher Daniels got brought in thanks to AJ Styles
because AJ had a great match with Moment.
AJ gave kind of a pseudo nod to Christopher Daniels
and gave them the contact info and put over Moment.
Well, Christopher Daniels came in,
expecting to do this big competitive match with Moment.
Moment was not in the same physical shape
to wrestle Christopher Daniels that he was with Moment.
I mean, with AJ Styles. So Moment went out there.
And as we all know, a moment he has a tendency to puke sometimes.
All the time.
Well, he didn't with AJ and had a good 20 minute match with him and tore down the house.
I meant like so Christopher Daniels thought he was expecting the same kid.
Yeah. He didn't get the same kid.
Moment puked early on in the match.
I don't know, his nerves or he wasn't feeling it.
He was a little nervous or he wasn't feeling well.
And Christopher Daniels kind of let him slide on the first time.
But the second time, yeah, Moment puked twice
against Daniels and they saying Daniels just proceeded to beat the shit out of him.
He was pissed.
And to be honest with you, also, the fans were were pissed.
I ruined his career.
It ruined it. Yeah, I ruined it for him.
They ruined the company and ruined it for him.
The other thing that also kind of sank the boat is they missed the missed the boat on a G.
They were the first company to actually get on the A.G.
boat, the all good Anthony Greenboat.
And he was their top baby face.
He was hot fire.
And they had a chance to give him the title off a moment.
And they did.
They they put moving around instead.
Also a big mistake, because then after the after moment wanting,
AJ never came back.
So they missed that.
And then Moment up checking twice to Pierce over Daniels,
which embarrassed them.
That was the main event of their show and it embarrassed them.
Which at that point,
their attendance had dropped drastically.
And all the owners were dropping like flies, left Sonny holding the ball.
And I bailed them out on one last show.
They had an advertised show.
One of the owners was Reed for our.
He used to promote with me.
He had his own ring, the same ring that was used for Chikara.
The one he bought out of bought me out of.
And he pulled out on doing the ring for this M.E.W. show.
And me and Sonny met at a Dunkin Donuts in Corinth.
Because Sonny had no ring.
He was losing talent.
And Moment, Reed had all dropped out and they were owners.
Owners of the company.
They all didn't want nothing to do anymore.
Just so me and him met in Corinth at a Dunkin Donuts.
We had coffee and we talked and I said, look.
I'll let you use Bertha.
I'll bail you out.
I'll buy you out.
You keep who you got booked.
I'll help you fill in the gaps with people
and call it a day.
But after that, I'll take over
and tell them all to go fuck themselves or I'll be care.
I literally told him, I'll be the bad guy if I have to.
I'll walk in there, I'll rip the.
Card off the wall and I'll put up a new card.
And he's like, I was like, you won't be the bad guy.
I will be if I have to.
And that day of that show, that last M.E.W. show
before I took it over and I tried to keep it alive.
It just didn't work.
I went into that locker room, was in Fairfield.
I told everybody I was the ring rental service.
That's how the show got to happen.
And so everything was booked.
First half went off without a hitch.
I went in the locker room.
I ripped down the card, put up the new card,
and everybody's like, what the fuck are you doing?
I said, well, Sonny's about to tell you.
Sonny walked in, told them all I was the new owner
and I was taking over things.
And this was the new card.
I looked at I looked at moment.
I said moment was the champion still had never lost the belt.
It's a moment.
You're wrestling rumble tonight, right?
Because I got the rumble at the time because rumble
hadn't been canceled at the time.
This is before all that bullshit happened, I think.
Rumble was there and I looked at rumble and I looked at moment
and I said, moment, you're wrestling rumble tonight.
You puke.
Don't come see me for your pay.
Rumble's going over.
That belt should have been off of you a long time ago
and should have went to AG.
Yeah.
Moment got pissed.
But nothing you could do about it.
The knuckle busters were there.
And I said, knuckle busters have been here this entire time
tagging on every goddamn show.
Somehow they're not the tag champs.
You have a throw together team as your tag champs.
The knuckle busters getting the fucking tag bells.
That makes sense. Yeah.
Yeah. No one argued.
That's what we got respect from Big Woody, but Big Woody loved me after that.
And then it was, I think, Dan Terry versus Tomahawk.
Or was it or was it Dan or is it Verned by Calo versus Tomahawk?
Anyway, it was maybe been in three way.
But I told him who was going over and I said, I like all you guys.
We're going to talk after the show. All right.
And then the last person I had to talk to was primer.
Primer did this pipe bomb promo at one of the MEWC.
I don't know if everybody heard about that.
He's he's talked to me about it, at least.
Yeah, he's never explained it fully, but we have talked about it.
I'll explain that after I'll explain that after.
But anyway, I, I told everybody how it was.
I said, I'll be handing out payouts.
I'll be taking care of everything.
I looked at Reed.
Who used to be one of the owners.
I said, I'll talk to you two after the show.
Because me and him had a good work of art.
I said, I'll talk to you after the show.
Because me and him had a good work of art.
And I told Bowman how it was.
And I told everybody else how it was.
I went out and even cut a promo on the show.
I'm telling everybody, hey, you know, I'm.
This is a new MEW.
I changed the logo.
I'm you know, I tried keeping the company alive, running after that.
And it just never caught fire after that.
Once once once it was tainted, no one wanted it anymore.
I tried.
I made it a show that was a lot of fun.
I tried.
I made it a show that was like a developing talent.
I wanted to try out an idea to bring them in.
I also try to keep their guys that were there.
That people liked and tried to build on them.
It was just hard.
No one wanted to see it anymore because it just.
They had done the fans so wrong.
I couldn't fix it.
Yeah.
Once the day.
Yeah, there's a certain point.
What's the fans like?
We're not coming back.
You're never going to get it back.
And Rumble put him through the fucking paces.
I've gotten Rumble.
I had gotten them Jason to fill that spot because at the time, Jason had just come back to work for me and was living in Maine at the time.
He just started moving back and I was getting them back on the deal.
And I was one of the bases he didn't do.
So Rumble at the moment got his pay and he straight up left.
Yeah, he was pissed.
A couple of people didn't know were pissed, but a lot of them stayed and got their pay.
And I talked to all of them.
And I said, I literally the biggest one was a primer.
He did this pipe bomb promo.
Well, what it was on my shows, I had primer tagging with Goodhang Flanders and they were called Team Good Balls.
They did a comedy bit.
Every show they come out dressed as some type of characters.
Like one time they came out with face and back up, dressed like Kiss.
Another time they were trying to dress like the Blade Runners, like Sting and Ultimate Warrior.
But one of them dressed like they wanted me primer, just intentionally dressed like Crow Sting.
And then, of course, Hank Flanders dressed like the old Ultimate Warrior from like the 90s.
So anyway, it was it was funny.
It was over. People liked it.
Well, primer didn't want to do that. And I told him, it's over.
It ain't broke. Don't fix it.
But primer didn't want to do it.
Eventually he told me he was hurt and he couldn't wrestle anymore.
I said, OK, cool.
So we stripped him and Flanders of the show of the titles.
And all of a sudden he shows up at MEW and cuts his skeething promo on me,
which also could have been considered a slander.
And I even told him that.
But after I bought MEW and pilot primer wrestle that last MEW show that when I bought it,
I even told him, you got a spot going forward.
But I don't think you got a spot. I had to be yet. You got to earn it.
And I remember putting out this post.
Because he was so adamant about how cool that pipe bomb promo was.
And he was talking about it online one day on Facebook.
And I said, yeah, it's so great that you slandered your best friend's name
over a spot because you couldn't do what you wanted.
That's great. You know what the irony is, though?
You ran you you did that pipe bomb at the company and thought you could get away with it.
Well, then I bought the company out from underneath everybody.
And literally could have ruined your wrestling career, not put you on any shows.
Yeah, that's real ironic.
Yeah, I literally like turned it around on him.
I say that's quite the pipe bomb, but here's a better one.
I could have made it so you couldn't wrestle anymore.
I held your career in my hand at that point because there was nobody else running shows.
It was just me. Yeah, right.
So I still give him a chance. And also he earned his spot back.
After that, he apologized and earned his spot back.
He also got murdered from a chair shot from.
Bobo Joe, because I wasn't the only one that I was doing the promo.
I was involved in the promo. I see big cat looking for it.
You might find it. He knows a Bobo Joe, who was Joseph Primer.
Also got slandered in that pipe bomb promo.
Along with Teddy, who was with Joseph Primer as primer ink, because when John left, Teddy took.
John spot as like hobo Joe's lucky.
So that's how I kept the gimmick going.
Well, over at me, W primer and read were primer ink.
Well, I already talked to read after show was over and read wanted to come back
and work Friday and work, help investing it back involved.
So I was like, I got the best idea.
But read every turn on primer, put them with Joe and Teddy.
How he did that was that same next Fairfield show was night of each other.
I was there. I was the turn on primer primer and Teddy hold primers hands.
So we got we got read and Teddy here holding holding primers hands.
Hobo Joe grabs a chair.
Kills him with a motherfucker.
So hobo got his receipt.
And after the after I remember looking at him, I'm like, because I call him, I was like, if he I asked him first, before we did this program of the primers feuding.
Is it something you OK with because of the pipe bomb promo?
Like I said, it was very distasteful as well as told. I remember Randy's friend, the the door brothers went to the show and said it was a very distasteful promo.
And it's very little. It could have been slander.
And the primer was so happy about it. So I'm like, OK, well, you got to earn your spot back if you want to keep wrestling.
And he ate that chair. So I earned it. I remember looking at hobo Joe afterwards and like, feel better now.
He's like, yeah, you can keep him around now.
And then I got beat up in that promo after you take that chair shot.
So I will say this, the primary earned a spot back.
But I will say he definitely showed his true colors about how wrestling was obviously more important than friendships, because not only did he screw over me, who was a guy who gave him work for many a year and even help run shows with them, gave him venues, which he ruined.
And so many other things in life.
He did that to Joseph Primer, hobo Joe, who was literally.
John was one of the people trying to make hobo a primer.
I was totally against it. I wanted hobo to be hobo, because that shit was over.
The chosen bitch.
But the chosen one, the chosen primer, Joseph Primer, that was that was all John pushing for that.
And then he said what he said in the problem.
Didn't understand it. I feel like it was way for John to get what John wanted at the time.
I think he regretted it. Probably afterward. I'm sure he's happy about it.
But we're past it now.
It's all times. But anytime he brings up that pipe problem, I was like, oh, so awesome. Like, you know, it's awesome.
And you thought you had you were on your little island over at me, W. And then I bought it and you had to work with me to earn your spot back because you would add nowhere else to wrestle.
Oh, yeah. Who is the bitch now?
There's a fun question from from Kevin.
Out of the four of you, who's the worst person you wrestled?
Out of the four of you. Well, I mean, like, I think you know, I know the answers.
Daddy.
Out of the four of you guys. No, no, I think there's only three of you.
Yeah. Well, out of all four of you, who's the worst person?
So he wants me to ask, which is the shittiest one I've wrestled at all three of you.
I think he meant for each of us to pick the worst. Yeah. Pick a worse wrestler, I guess.
Oh, I guess it was probably me.
The. So, so we're going to go all around and do all that.
Well, you guys have other questions is already 11 o'clock and I figure we should get some of those to the questions from Kevin.
I know that. Yeah.
Let's let's let's let's have bearing our friends. Let's let's get.
I was like, hey, we were hit almost like if we hit the three hour mark, it'll be midnight. So yeah, we got an hour to talk about questions you had.
I mean, unless there's somebody else other than Kevin's I've already answered.
Just trying to make sure I got everybody. Was there anything else other than Kevin's questions?
I want to I want my questions.
I have a cat. Go ahead. Okay. Well, two cats questions. Sorry, guys. Cat is vetoed my decision making processes.
I want to know about the road. I want to know about the the forming of the streak and like the decision of ending it with the ace as well as that ending match.
But like we said, we hinted the last show where the whole table spot got got very scary for both of you.
Well, the streak happened by accident.
The street actually I actually started below the loss I lost to Zach Burton in the first match of the one of the first match of the pandemic of the dojo, which is why we came back to it at the very last episode of pandemic.
The dojo with the deserted dojo match because throughout the pandemic of the dojo, I started beating all the youngins here, all the students, because no one wanted to work the students.
No one. I'll be honest with stuff like that because everybody's trying to get looked at by Randy.
They all want to have these big competitive, awesome matches from Randy and hope to get booked for Limeless.
While all the students who are there trying to help do these pandemic of the dojo tapings or the road tapings, we get left at the wayside.
And I'm like, I bet you're going to have a better matches with these students and some of y'all have these competitive as matches and no one gives a shit.
And I proved it with the streak. And I remember it was a G gave me a compliment.
He's like the most one of the best one of the things I love watching about the pandemic, the dojo and the road was my matches is what he said.
And that made me feel good because this is right before he was going away to the big time at the time.
So he gave me props. But yeah, I would I would wrestle at all the students and it would be like some of their first matches.
Right. Dylan Nicks. Yep. Yeah. And so I'd go through all of them and I'd get the best matches possible out of them and they'd be entertaining as fuck.
And I was the heel. So I beat the shit out of them. But also, like, try to pull some good spots out of them.
Like, yeah, yeah, I remember one spot in particular was as we were going on through the streak and mind you, the streak kept going because, again, I was wrestling all the people that no one wanted to really wrestle.
No offense. But the green horns during this time, during the pandemic of the dojo and the road, everybody's looking to have those drop those knockdown drag out fights.
Yeah, because that's what they they think Randy wants to see all the while. Randy just wants to be entertained and enjoy it as much as the next person.
Because you remember, he's there. Back then he was one of the video camera guys.
He's there recording every fucking match him and him and Paul. What Paul? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And given props, as they were hours of recording, hours, hours, and hours and then you got to remember hours afterwards.
He had like when he was editing this show when Randy's editing, they had to do all the commentary, too.
So, like he had to watch his back twice, three times, four times, five times. Yep.
Anyway, so my goal was to have the best matches with the least experienced people and make them show out over other matches.
And that's why everybody remembers the streak because that's what I did.
And Lily said it to everybody else is there.
Like people I'd never heard of in my life showing up to do these tapings
because they begged Randy to let them see them.
And then they were going to booking afterwards.
You didn't get a booking because you didn't care to make your match matter.
I want to make my matches matter.
Even with students, I proved that I could do it.
I was like, this is why I'm where I'm at, because I'm that guy.
I could do it with anybody.
And I proved it. And then I went on to wrestle more capable people like,
you know, I wrestled Rip and Mike Gamble and love Doug and a bunch of other people.
And I can have even better matches with people that were competitive.
And this is me versus Dylan Nix.
I want you once we get to the finish, though, I want you to look at Amber's face.
I mean, I was with the video of that.
Also, right there, I'm not sure why not watch Rip.
Yeah, it popped up in the background.
And if you turn the volume up a smidge and listen to Rip,
just listen to Rip when this goes on, it happens.
But the ribbon, that's all right.
I'll be honest, I was told my favorite bumps every day because it looked disgusting.
I can't remember.
I was really sure here at one point,
have you met a thunder here?
Yeah, they have a middle head.
Before we go anymore, I just remember this.
We're doing the road and it was supposed to be
Connor Hex and Dylan Nix getting into it.
That was supposed to be the story and it got mixed up.
Well, I remember
Nix putting in the ocklock and doing the spot, whatever.
And it kind of got fucked up.
But at the end of it, when everything was all done, I just remember you, Erika.
Jesus Christ, Nix.
It's not a fucking shoot.
You're going to walk out.
He was choking him the phone.
I'm like, you know, bro, you're showing me the phone.
I'm like, go, dude.
I remember I remember him going like, OK, lighten up.
And I was like, oh, shit, I'm so sorry.
I'm going to do it. And I have to sell it.
And I want the phone. I'm going to do.
But I'm like, you know, it's a work, right?
No, hasn't really choked people.
And it's a right.
You know, has really didn't choke people out and I said, just a mile.
But like, come on.
I want to go, you know, I can murder you, right?
I was ready. There's no selling murder.
And at one point, I was just killing.
OK. But anyway, continue on.
I'm glad you didn't.
Johnson, though, too much strength and not a good enough grip from Dylan Nix.
Johnson brings him around town.
Boom. That's cool.
I think that awesome.
For like my third.
I only called I called it heavy metal, but he called it heavy metal.
It's got to be a heavy metal.
Then I stopped doing it because of Friggin Jericho.
Can we take notice at least?
Watch Amber's face.
And reading from Asbury Park right on top of his head.
Thanks for the memories.
That was actually the the dojo chat.
That still of Amber's face is actually the dojo chat picture for a while.
It's a background photo.
So anyhow, to continue on with the street,
like one of the memorable moments I remember my shit was getting
noticed so much that I was like, just by the workers, not just the fans.
I was like, I want to do something special.
And that's why I pulled in the Ethan story.
Because no one was doing problems.
No one. What favorite part of the streak.
There. Oh, awesome.
And that was a shoot.
I'm going to tell you this right now, if you want to.
If you go to the love, it's on YouTube.
You have to look up me and the versus love dog.
And it's the snippet at the end,
which I don't understand why I never got to be separate.
But that's how we tied it in.
We want to keep it secret because we want to work the boys.
We worked everybody on that angle.
So everybody remembers my promos are always with you for that's it.
There's four people, maybe five.
I remember because we had to tell Pigpen, obviously, Randy knew.
I knew Ethan knew.
And I think Dylan, I know.
I just happen to be there when you guys talk about it.
It's yours. And so we we worked a spot.
What it was is I was like every no one like doing promos.
I never understood that.
I'm like, you realize the reason why half the streak happened
and why it was so good is I kept cutting promos about it.
Because I kept wanting.
To face the champ, which at the time was a G,
and then he leaves, then I wanted to be in the title picture,
and I'm beating all these people, but no one's giving me a shot.
And then they're like, oh, well, you're not beating the right people.
Well, then I started beating the right people
and I'm still not getting a shot.
So like I that was my story.
And Ethan's I'm kind of like bullying him
because he's the only member of the staff that's giving me any responses
because he's interviewing me every time.
So I'm picking on them. I'm bullying them.
I'm getting pissed.
All right. At the end of the love dug match.
We're going to shoot this on the fly and I pitched it to Randy.
Randy's like, I fucking love it.
I said, don't tell nobody.
Don't tell anybody.
It's like the only people who got to tell are you and Pigpen
because you're on the cameras, everybody else.
And I was pissing off some of the boys with my shit.
I remember him and the dude's name, Spaz Maniac, something like that.
And came to came up with KDR Cat.
It's yeah, they were dating at that time.
I don't know if it's still.
You know, I don't remember.
I remember kind of promo and it was like super serious.
And he didn't know the story.
This is like he's randomly coming up because he just wants ready to see him
and get work. And I think he pretty much is there because KDR
Cat's there and I think as many anyone use KDR Cat because of her name
and all that shit, her name value and all that anyway, which is very little.
But it was something it was something different.
You know, the radio and things are different.
I respect that idea.
But he came up and he's like,
can you not yell and be swear so much to your promo?
I'm like, I looked at Mike, who the fuck are you?
I looked at Mike, who the fuck are you?
You kind of promo.
You can't cut any promos.
I might.
That was my I'm like, well, doesn't look like you got any kind of any camera time.
It must mean you're not important.
I walked away.
I didn't talk to him the entire time I was there after that.
I shook his hand out of respect and I was like, yeah, whatever.
He's like, boy, look, whatever.
I was like, who the fuck are you?
I like I love when people come up from nowhere
and they're hoping they think they think they're great.
And then Randy sees them and then he's like, huh?
Your average.
Randy knows Alan, he sees plenty of it.
He knows who's willing to bust their ass for it.
And at the time I was busting my ass and I wasn't just about me. Yeah.
I told an unwillingly told people a story without them knowing it with me and Ethan
leading up to that match with me and Ethan.
I don't have that on standby with me.
The love I have and I'll stand by right now.
OK, so watch the boys reaction.
When you press literally, I told Ethan what I needed.
He brought his wrestling center for when he was training with me
because he trained to be a wrestler and I knew he could do these spots.
These were simple shit.
I don't wear your wrestling shoes that day where underneath you think.
So when you're taking the clothes off, people see the singlet underneath.
Like, no way is he going to do this because I'm running my mouth.
I'm calling people out.
Go for it. Play it up.
This is some awesome shit.
This is naturally acting from people
because they didn't know this was going to happen.
Mortar Mortar's face. Oh, my God.
It's into this.
Come on. Leave them alone.
Yeah, this is like this is like not into the.
Never been a second retiree is a good.
That's Tyree over there.
Mortar, you'll see Ben come.
You see people come out from behind out back and watch it.
Because you're like, what the fuck is going on?
It was me. I was one of them.
Yeah. It looked like we were shooting a match on the fly.
And we did.
I was sitting over at the table with with Dave.
He's like, what's going on?
I'm like, watch.
I said, watch. I'm here to win matches.
And you're so.
But he left and there's no champion.
I want the fucking belt. That's the story.
I want to defeat it.
And yet I don't get a chance.
Which one of you a holes?
What's the.
Wait a second.
Listen, let's wait for the fans react here.
Wait a minute.
Boys, boys. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Ethan Scott has a single.
Everybody is on the.
Look at the people that are.
It's just not great.
This is Scott on the block.
I put a pop on the fast press.
You're going to be kidding me.
That's good for me.
It's got the shot. Everyone's going down.
He's on there.
Now, this match is official.
What's their watch for the pop from the kick out?
Awesome.
And all.
Awesome.
Like the crowd, like everybody's standing.
They can't believe what they're watching, but this is all we work.
Everybody does that on your keep well and keep going.
It gets better. Wait for the fucking kick out on the stunner.
It's.
All right, I click on one.
You're good.
You're on the fine.
Ready where it's at.
The wall.
The only standing and counting like we worked everybody.
This is great.
We're starting what's going on.
I was still watching this.
Here comes a big pop.
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The only people that knew were Randy pink ben dillon
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Naturally they all wanted me to lose
Yeah, yeah, that's natural reaction
They also I think from a lot of it and I'm not gonna lie to you
I think a lot of them really did want me to lose a lot of them hated the streak
Because it wasn't them doing it. I did it
unintentionally this all shit has happened
by accident because I was getting the best set of people and I was like, uh, no one's got promos
I'll do one and I'll tie everything in and make a story
That's why you see all those if you watch the road
Weeks and build up with me and Ethan doing these promos and no one's giving me a title shot
That one answers my response. Ethan's the only member of the staff there. So I take it out on him
I bully him lead it up to that. Bam
that's the only reason why I wanted him to beat you was that because I like seeing those promos like are really
Intentional build up and you've watched it happen. So from a viewer's perspective
It's great the boys
Did by the time that ended that was like I think the last match of that season that I had
Or got to the next one
by the next one
People are still looking forward to the matches. I started to have like I said more competitive matches with other guys that were more competitive
I wasn't wrestling as many students because I also told randy
I gotta start wrestling other guys
But the problem was I think I generated so much heat from doing that angle
That a lot like I had people that were volunteering to work me and I also had people that didn't want to work me
So I was I was I and I'm still I don't think randy knows that but I know that so
I like I said, I'm still this mindset that where i'm like everyone's like, oh, yeah, we don't want to work this
But i'm like i'll work them. I don't care. Let's go
right
I i'd rather work a match and
If especially with something i haven't worked before work it and you learn something from that, you know, you may learn
Hey, this works this doesn't then be like no, I don't want to work that guy
So i'll explain how things change so we did all those tapings and then of course covid's all done
so there's no need for doing any more tapings, but
We really didn't have any venues
Because we lost the orinal venue because god rest his soul the person who got us the venue passed away
Yeah
Yeah, and he was a good man. He used to love the shows. He used to love the people watching people even when we did the live shows
love him
So we lost that
I got us into roncos, which I used to run iw out of there
When it was time out I did a couple shows there roncos is fun
But roncos is limited
And at the end of the day they kept telling us they weren't making enough money and that's because I told them well
Maybe if you stop pulling our bartender from their event room to downstairs
Yeah, we would have that problem because people would be looking for drinks and food and there's no one to order from because it wouldn't be upstairs
Well that last show we did was also the last month they were open
Yeah, and they were literally not gonna let us have the show
because
They weren't making enough money and they so they held us up for they held us up for 300 to have that last roncos
Show
Not only not only did like we pay them to rent there 90 of us went downstairs after the show
You order food. Yeah, i'm sure they got money out of enough money out of us
Plus the hundred people that were there. We yeah
So we were in we're at the end of covet times, but there were still the restrictions
So they were making plenty of money. They were just money hungry and they knew they were losing the venue
Just from the boys. So I think that last of us. We were getting the venue for free
The building was for free the building was free until that last show that we did which is the one that alex chamberlain was on
Because he was having to be up here when he was yeah, we got him. We just let him work while he was up here, but like um
Yeah, that show almost didn't happen because they were gonna let it happen because they didn't want to they wanted something for the room
And that's when I knew the writing was on the wall
And they're like well 300 bucks. We'll do it because they originally said five. I said that's not cost-effective. I'm not doing it
I said when you take two and they said give us three and
Randy and I agreed because I helped give the the shows happening
Randy said they wouldn't pay any more than that for that room
He also wanted to show just to happen because we already started advertising it. Yeah, so
So during the roncos bit obviously we kept the street going we had the angle with me and ace which was super hot fire
The matches were great
Um people loved it and we had natural chemistry because we've done ace forever
And I you know helped them give him some of his break up here in maine because other than super lucha explosiva. He wasn't doing anything
Well
We come to the morgan hill show
And I told randy at that time it was make or break like we got to do something with the streak either go
They're gonna win and get a shot and go down to yarmouth and like to the way the big shows
But he would still do in the arm of shows even though they were closed tapings
Yeah, he never stopped. So now i'm never stopped. No, and at this point covids almost over and we're trying to like we're doing morgan hill
Is a big one of our big first pop-offs after everything all the restrictions are finally gone
And I was like, okay. Well and at that point i'm losing weight. I was in great shape
I I think I was peak eric johnson during the streak
Like the heel eric
Was there
Right at that moment me were still there. I was like, okay
Right at that moment me versus ace peak. I lost weight with great shape feeling good moving the best
I could go
And I was trying to go down to yarmouth to be real with you
I wanted to work competitively against people and I thought my ashes with my matches with ace and shit at at mongko should approve that
And then it went nowhere because this is what I was told I was talking to randy about it at the time
Ace was going to win the belt ag was gone
So a lot of the because he was in the mwb at the time. Yeah, the rest was hers. Yeah, so he
All the guys that were built up were leaving so that ace and ace was going to finally get the belt
So he figured
He was going to use him ending the street as the piggyback to him getting the belt and I said that makes sense
Story line, yeah
Yeah, so that's what I was told
And I also was told that eventually I get the chance down in yarmouth, which never happened, but anyway
This is where it gets frustrating so I was told i'm putting over ace he's a beat in the street. He's going to win the belt
Okay, that's why i'm finally losing he shows up to this venue first off. He's sick. He's getting over the flu
And has no initiative. He feels like garbage. I understood it. So I tried pitching shit to him try to come up with stuff
He had a couple ideas. So we put everything together that we could the best we could with
How he was feeling and what he did and didn't want to do and what I did didn't want to do and I'm down to
Whatever because i'm just trying to get this match to be the best match possible because i'm losing. Yeah, but ace is sick
So it's him. If you watch him, what's the magic's him beating the shit out of me mostly?
And a couple big spots where he takes the big spots
Like we're gonna hit him in the head with the tag bat and things
There's a couple big spots he takes but if you watch a lot of it to be getting my ass beat
That's because he felt like shit
Okay, cool
Hey, well we needed the door for the finish because we said okay. Well, this is the last man standing
So the best way to do this is if
We both fall off the bench
Through this fucking table or door on the floor
And then we rocky balboa the ending
Pull on apollo creed rocky balboa both trying to pull yourselves up and
One pulls himself into the ring one stays on falls down on the floor and that's how you call it
Yeah, i'm like we can make this work and I thought we could make it work and then that we saw
What the fucking door was and that's not one of the things that we did
bathroom cheap bathroom doors or bedroom doors is one of those fucking doors you have on your back door your house was it not an interior door
No
Go back and find a video it's online. It's a big fucking door
Go look at the door like as someone that has always bought interior doors when they do those spots
It's a big ass door. Look at that thing. I just thought it was just a
Regular interior supposedly randy had this door at his house. It was a spare door
And he thought because me and ace were big enough we'd break it not in theory
I think if we scorched the underside we probably could have somehow
But we didn't know this was the the the door for the table
but it slipped
Yeah, well, that's cuz a we had to put it on chairs. We have anything else and the chairs have grommets on the bottom
Which allows us to have a little bit of a
Also, it's one of those doors that has it's an outdoor door. So it has a filament on it like that shiny filament shit
So
So we ace has beaten the shit out of me this entire match and dave
respectively
Pause it for a second. He's meeting the both of us and give me this perspective before we get to the door spot
See how it's not it's not door door. Look at the you see the door
Spaces till four square that is definitely an exterior door. Yeah, so
We're working on what we got ace had brought some shit and I had brought some shit and we're working with whatever we could find at the
Dojo, that's why we're it's in its last man standing we we put together
I thought the best considering he's getting over the flu. He's not he still kind of has it. He feels like shit
That's why I said I took a brunt of the abuse if you want to see it
I got my ass handed to me and he i'll give it to ace he took some big spots for me to make me look good, too
this
Interior door though from from certain perspectives, but I totally understand like what you're saying now. You're seeing it. You're like, oh, yeah
That's definitely not a normal interior door. It's like the
Go look at any of my matches that I've used doors the doors
Actually, I've used doors for a couple of years
Because like the go look at any of my matches that I've used doors the doors planet actually the same
But like I can I understand
Yeah, the doors are like an interior bathroom door is completely flat other than the the knob hole
Right. This is a thick
Exterior door with the filament on it. It's shiny stuff. Anyway
So we're at this point and we thought okay, maybe we could break it because we're both big and I and I told him like
Well, how are we gonna do this? We're both fall through it. He's like no
He's like, let me let me fucking figure something out because originally thought maybe he could pounce me through it
But how are you gonna both of us gonna land on it? I said just fucking spear me through it
And let's fuck it. He's like i'll come through the ropes. I'll spear you. We'll both go through it
And I said, all right, which means I'm gonna take the brunt of it because i'm on i'm landing back first
The problem is as I said the chairs have these little rubber grommets on them because it keeps them from scuffing the floor
Which makes sense?
And because the filament on the door because it's like that shiny slidey shit
The door slides off
With us going through it. So we hit the floor on top of me hitting the floor before you play
Here's the part we're gonna say before we hit the floor watch this door hits me in the head
And then now watch carefully, and also hits a fan
I'm standing literally right on the top end of that right there recording it and I was like holy fuck
Yeah, you know in the background freaking and then they also show you the other angle too
I believe that's where you want to see is the other angle if they show me kneeling next to dennis like
Yeah, i'm right. I'm right over in the right hand corner. I'm concussed at this point as i'm talking to him
I'm telling you like dude my head's throbbing
Watch my head
To my head
Yeah, he was fine though as I remember watching watch over pam all man if you rewind is you have a slow-mo on that somehow
Yeah, um, what on what angle is the first one the one the one where i'm falling and like great, uh, keep it going
Let it play
This one right here. Not this one the other one
The other angle the floor came
Okay
The drum is coming here in a minute when they show the replay flow it this one. Yeah
Okay, yeah, I got it. I got it
There you go play back
Yeah, go like 25
Oof bam
You can see the door ripple
Yeah, you see that oh the door ripples when they hit you in the head. Yeah, it hits me in the head hard
hard
Like watch the edge of the door it ripples when it hits you
Bam
Geez for a moment and then it comes back when all the weight doesn't go into it. Holy shit
Keep playing it slow-mo. It shows another angle. You'll get a better view
watch
He hits me we start to go his leg goes first that's a problem
He landed on the fan rocks my shit
And then at that point i'm like i'm laying on i'm like dude i'm fucking because that door just slammed in my fucking head
You'll see me hold it. You can play it full speed now. Watch it. Watch me. I'm holding my head the entire fucking time
I'm like we're we're done. I totally just looked at him like i'm we're fucking done. I'm i'm i'm heated at this point
I'm fucking heated i'm laying there like that should not happen
I remember looking up at the fan, which is alicia's husband. I'm making good. He's like, yeah
I had paul man was in the tech on him. He got hit with the door
Hey, since he was checking to make sure that he was looking like we hit that fucking fan
I'm
Concussed
Pissed off
I didn't know it at this point
Uh, I mean, that's all the ace like we're done. So let's get to the finish and get the fuck out of here
When i was landing on him
I mean nobody knew that was a finish because the door didn't break
But he's up and i'm not so at least people reacted
So i'll tell you the next thing that
I don't know if anybody who knows I am
Bang i got a force that thing hit me in the head like it's what dude i'm concussed just watching that
I was freaking out. I was looking I didn't see the door hit you
I thought you guys I thought the door slid and you guys went straight floor is that that's what I I thought
I thought the door kicked out and you guys smashed uh head first into the door into the floor. Yeah. Yeah, so
This is not that's not even the worst part about it. So after the match was over so we were the main event
At this point me and ace's shit was main event material all through that wrong coast to this
And this is the cusp of everything changing back to normal
And ace is supposed to get his big payout because he's going to be the main event material
And ace is supposed to get his big payout because he's going to face for the title
cool
What about me right what happens to me now, right?
Well after the show after the show i'm downstairs i'm fucking concussed i'm in pain i'm hurting
Randy comes in I ask him like what like how do you feel about the matchup?
Um, he said he thought ace beat the shit out of me too much
Which I understood that
Because he's not lying he did but he's because he's sick and he has the flu
So i'm trying to cover him. So he doesn't have to do a lot
Also the table spot sucked and I said well if you hadn't gotten us an outdoor table and we had an indoor table
And I would have bought one
I would have bought one for 60 bucks
I was gonna say I appreciate him bringing the one that he had it was free
They're not like 70 80 bucks, of course it's gone up now, but back then they were like 60 bucks, right?
That's why i bought marketplace now
so
And I said and he's also wasn't didn't like the type of finish and I said well if we'd gone through the table
It would have been a hot pop because we're both laying on the table
And then one of us lives and one of us doesn't you know what I mean?
The the spot would have got paid off the right way because the table didn't break and because a fan almost got taken out by a table
And I get it. He was upset about that too and i'm like well dude that table
Because it's an outdoor table and it's heavy as fuck blasting me in the head and I have an incusion right now guaranteed
So I was already seeing fucking stars
So I was I was irritated he was he was just he the word he uses he was disappointed
That's what got me so he was disappointed in the match and I said so and my brain i'm concussed
i'm tired
I just got my ass beat all match cover and ace the guy that's supposed to be making a champion
I got fell through a fucking door
It's an outdoor hard door that's supposed to fucking stand that stand some of those doors stand up the fucking battering rounds from police
Fucking cops and shit
I mean here in maine they're intended to like stand up to weather and our weather is the same so yes
And now I have a concussion have to go to hospital the next day if not that night which I went
Two days later because I wanted to make sure I was coherent enough to drive because no one else was going to drive me
He says he's disappointed
I get no phone calls from randy during that time i'm not teaching at the dojo
I left wrestling for a giant space of time if y'all remember for a giant space of time. I left
Yeah, I remember not seeing you for a while
I was pissed off irritated and felt like I put a fuck ton of effort in and got nothing
Because I just put over ace who's going on to win the title
I literally took all my steam and gave it to somebody else and I got nothing out of it
And every time I put over
I mean didn't put over I pulled matches out of people that probably couldn't shouldn't be pulling matches out
Which is a lot of green horns
I pulled the best matches out of them possible that were more over than the fucking competitive guys that he books on a regular basis
Got nothing
Was teaching at the dojo for free
And I stepped completely away at that point when he told me he was disappointed I wanted to go
You can tell that you're a soon-to-be champ that has the flu that when I covered him and did everything else I had to do
Okay, but I didn't I kept my mouth shut I had concoction and didn't want to say anything that
Would upset him because i'm not mad at him
I'm disappointed in him
For letting that slide because here's the worst part about it
I put over ace
Yes, who got released from wwe and came back and won the title instead of ace
Ag
Yep
Which led to ace?
I think having an issue with a randy and leaving for a minute
Because he told ace he was next in line
Because ace was under the impression he was beating me beating the street and going on to win the belt
I remember because we had the conversation in the basement that day of that match
That's why he was winning because he he was even wondering what's gonna happen to me next because I had such momentum
But literally I I put all my momentum on ace and ace
Didn't get the belt
And when he got released came back won the belt which is smart business
Yeah, because no one saw that coming. That was hot fire
but
I got in my brain. I'm disappointed in how I was treated. I was in the best shape losing ton of weight
My matches were hot fire. I was I was fucking trending with shit
I was getting doing other I had never done podcasts before I was doing pelicans with other people
I had a bunch of shit going for me and I thought we should be riding this fire and
And said I got a concussion
And told my match with disappointing when I literally did everything I could to carry it
That's what made me hate wrestling and want to leave it
Because that's when I realized at that point in time. I was never going to wrestle in yarmouth
Uh, I was never gonna be featured big anywhere
on a limo issue
After that, I lost
When I lost ace I lost essentially any leverage
To put me in any big spots
Yeah
Do you feel wrong tell me if i'm wrong do you feel like if the table spot
Would have gone wrong
That it would have been different. Yeah, because they sort of pulled himself out of the wreckage
And then declared the winner winner like I would have I would have laid there
You would have seen me moving toward the ring and then not get up
But ace pulls himself up after going through the table
It's a big hero moment
Steering me through a fucking table on the floor
big hero badass moment
And because the table did not break
And the one thing that I didn't do was I didn't do it
In the way it went
I'm pretty sure if that had been the finish and it went right we would have a different conversation
Because the reaction would have been the payoff
Yeah, I mean I can't make me I can't always make
Chicken salad out of chicken shit. Yeah, you can only do so much with what you're given
Yeah, so and
Is what it is. I don't care anymore
I'll never I've already come to terms with not like there's a glass ceiling and everywhere you go
Yeah, no matter what you do. No matter what you do. Like there's a glass ceiling
No matter how much you want something unless someone gives you a chance
So
My my my idea was that I was in the best shape of my life
I was gonna make a fucking run for it with the streak and everything going on and I was hot fire
I was gonna make a run for that shit wrestling wise like maybe this is my chance to make a run for it again
I was getting a lot of attention
Getting a lot of bookings. Everything was great
And then that moment happened and it was like a complete fucking blackout
Soon as I lost
So that's why I stepped away from wrestling and then I hear everybody say oh we miss you and I'm like I don't give a shit
Like I feel like I was wronged and I never got anything out of it and no one ever reached out to ask me
So
Including Randy
Wow
Yeah, I never knew that part at all. Yep for months. I was from him
Didn't hear anything from anybody. I need a promoter after I lost. I it was a total blackout
Yeah, I was basically gone as well just because of uh, you know family stuff and other things going on in my life, so
Like when I came back you were already back. So it's like, oh hey like I didn't even know
I was gone for like six to eight months. Yeah
And uh, which is weird because I went from being on every fucking show being booked everywhere
and being like a top guy on every fucking card to
Nothing all in a hot minute as soon as I lost it was like total blackout
Which is sad
Because I thought I was valued more than now
It's the exact opposite now. I can't get stopped getting bookings. Everybody books me
Even though there's begging me to do my old gimmicks and paying me extra money about all promotions
Anyway, but
Literally just gonna say that they say on that sad note you did get an opportunity for the
Limitless not limitless. Let's wrestle championship and won that night
Do you want to explain like the situation that two shots the first one? I lost
Right the first one lost brg beat me but it's because of mac daniels by accident
mac daniels was trying to hit brg with a bolt hit me
The energy had a moment to decide
Whether he was gonna get caught with the belt and maybe get a swallow ride or pin me and chuck the bell out of the ring
He chose to pin me
So that was the first match
So I do the story with mac to get my revenge come back to brg
So we get we had three stories going on because obviously brg and mac have history because of the group
Because they were in a group with albin all that stuff and then me and mac had a story going to
Because he's the big young new guy who was champion and i'm the old guy that he devoided
During everything including the streak
anyway
Um
And due to my quad terry, you know
I just came back from the gym and I was like, okay, I'm gonna do this
Quad terry, you know, I just came back from my quad there. So there's a big comeback story, right? Anyway
lose the brg
Do the story with eat mac put mac at which i'm also one of max last matches. He hasn't wrestled since then
I know he's doing cross country now. I think yeah looking at his instagram
Yeah, he uh, he the lumberjack matches with willy his last match
Yeah, which was a great match that match was fire. Yeah, so um, and then that leads me back to brg
Getting my rematch
And the math happens we do the spot where I blow up many
You know keep going even though Greenleaf's doesn't want to let me keep going but I keep going
question about that though, did you
You may you might have been like
Kfav me but I could have sworn you actually said you actually did
pop out your knee in that match as me were the boys again and that you work with me Ray Randy only do it new for me
Randy
BRG
Greenleaf
and my son Smith and involved later
because he was in the audience since then got him involved so I believe you
So yeah, everybody did everybody thought I blew out many which is possible because you know, I just came back from a quad so I blew out my leg that popped back in and kept going
And I got it out and right when BRG's feeling sympathetic. I
Was out smarted him and I got the pen
And he gets mad and and he tries to take it out on me and my son tries to get in between us
And he tries to get on my son which led to the unexpected story of Ethan getting
Evolved manning up and saying you don't touch a fucking kid as fucked up shit. Like he was being a man like that was cool
Unexpectedly getting over people did not like I thought the spot where he might be or G going after my son
It was like, you know teenager but I got super heat it was
More so that he went after Ethan after Ethan was standing up and being a man and standing up for the kid and be like
You don't touch a kid. You don't do that. That's messed up. And because he did that BRG super victim and everything went on Ethan
I said well
Let's take advantage of this situation if
Ethan's gonna get the heat. Let's let's go. Let's see if he's gonna get the attention. Let's run with it
And that's why we're in with the Ethan angle
Which led to me getting my title, you know me eventually having the title rematch in the cage. We were supposed to have it in Brewer
So I'm champion right now
But BRG steals the belt cuz I'm hurt and all that shit and all the shit with Ethan, you know, eventually I get the belt back
one time
Like I haven't lost it. I'm still a champ. I'm just not carrying it BRG's carrying around
BRG still went around to other shows that defended the title as champion and I was the champion at the time
right
And I don't I don't really like that that type of the story cuz it kind of gets overlooked of you being the actual champion
Yeah, you're not you're not the only one but I understood as a heel standpoint, right? I understood I felt like
I'm good enough to be the champion, but we're not gonna give you the belt because we don't want to acknowledge it
It's what it felt like
So the champion but I wasn't so I was a champion I beat him
He takes the belt
Obviously after super kick and Ethan and he carries it essentially the entire time
I think one show I get it back for like one match
To defend it and then he steals it again. And then we were supposed to lead up to the big blow off which was
Me and BRG in the cage in Brewer
Well, we all know what happened to the Brewer venue. It closed, right?
So we're having to close the month. We're doing the payoff with Ethan
Ethan gets to get his comeuppance, but obviously loses the match for us because it's he's not a wrestler
You know, he's part the trade wrestler slash announcer. He's not full competitor
But he got his cool hot moment
And I love doing that for him too because it's a Kim full so I was his bully that it became
I was teacher first and a bully to him and then I
Brought him back into the game and gave him the spot to be in the course him being a man and stand up for my kid
I thought was cool story, too. But anyway, um
Yeah, he loses we lead into the the next month where we have to do the match in Fairfield because we have no
Brewer venue and Herman wasn't available
Only thing that was available was Fairfield. That's gonna be big enough to fit a cage
So the Fairfield we knew had it could fit a cage that didn't show us before there with a cage. So
That was our option and we were worried
that
Fans wouldn't travel for that. I'm awake
We were afraid that fans weren't going to travel for the cage match
With me and brg for like we gotta do this payoff because randy
Wanted to get this payoff and it was also if you remember Levi spades last show and main
Yep
I was a team share for about that
That was why he really wanted to get this payoff because otherwise all that build up everything all the story we've done
It's for nothing. I also think secretly it was because he wanted to put the belt back on Brett
Legitimately on paper, even though he already had the belt and would be defending it in other countries and
Other shit, I felt like
I think I probably had maybe like 20 minutes altogether where I got to help them hold that roll belt
One match and all that shit
anyway, so you get to the show in fairfield where it's the cage
This is actually brett's first ever cage match
Which I'm honored to because he came up to me and specifically said hey
So when I noticed my first ever cage match out of all the things i've done in wrestling and i'm happy
It's with you because I feel safe with you and I know you know what you're doing. That's cool. That's cool
So and we we were like, okay, I'm gonna go with the cage match
That's cool. That's really cool. So and we we were both very worried that people weren't on travel or people were gonna leave because
They literally saw a whole show of wrestling
Before they had an intermission. Yeah, and then intermission during the trip the fucking cage goes up. Yeah
Let's start with the set up of the cage. So we thought everybody would leave during the setup of the cage
Because they literally just saw
Six or seven freaking matches
Yeah
Because it was like rustlemania. I didn't understand it
So i'm like i'm thinking myself people are coming to see this cage match
We have a rustlemania size roster of matches before it
And uh, it's not like it's four or five matches like six
Matches or so I can tell you right now
It was a lot
I just mean it was a lot and me and brg were like heated because we're like watch
We're gonna watch all these matches in the match. They paid to see which was the fucking cage match. They're gonna fucking leave
But you know what kind of time that it took to put the cage up was was more than double the amount of time that your entire match was
Exactly
Like 20 minutes
And larry was so
Adamant that oh we're gonna have this cage up in x amount of time. He said 20 minutes and I said I said 30
Longer than that. I said 30. He said 20 as somebody that was literally there to help set up
It was it was close. It was closer to mine than his he said 20 and I said 30
And he said no, we're gonna get it up in 20 minutes
I said 30 because you have to tighten it the part sliding the pieces on is not the hard part
The part is tightening every fucking spot so it doesn't fall apart. There was a time
Looking up and we're like, huh? Hey time's ticking away. Like we're like looking up at larry's. He's like tightening shit away and we're like
Okay, we're wasting too much time like
It's it's so like and that's the thing because if they hadn't had if they had say let's say they have like four matches
Maybe five and then intermission had been fine, but there was like seven matches six seven matches and then intermission
Well, there was actually no there was a pre-show. Yeah, so there was a pre-show
And then six matches seven matches as I said, yeah
Yeah, wasn't it an intermission then an intermission?
So they literally saw an entire show before the cage match went on. Yeah
And me and brett were just sweating it. We're like dude people are gonna fuck
And leave we're about to go kill ourselves in this cage and everybody's not fucking me
I would like to think I think like 10 percent of the crowd left a lot of not many people left which I was thankful for
I was so thankful for yeah, it was good match too. Yeah, it was it was really good. Um, we worked that cage
But the cage is limited because it's you know old and there's like and i'm a big dude
I don't want to break it and then have to yeah save for fucking
Larry's cage and having to be pissed off
I don't know how much that fucking cost. Yeah, so this is what Larry we're talking about
for a second
So you probably charged three we had a great match and then obviously the finish was brett was going over
Which I had a feeling was gonna happen. I thought the payoff should have been I was going over
And then the belt finally gets
Yeah
I thought the story would have been better if I would went over and finally get my payoff
Because I never got to really have the bell
but
They put they wanted brett over because he had plans for brett and I said, okay cool
No problem. And brett's also an mlw guy. So he's got
So name cloud
name clout
Well, and then so I had pitched because originally randy wasn't coming back to fairfield
When I when he pitched that brett was going over
We also had that little side story where
Jason was like once with brett and then he was against brett and now he was like in the middle
And I said, this is your chance to build a big baby face because maverick's from fairfield. It's his hometown
Like why not? Why don't you have him come make the save?
for me
So if you're not gonna put me over you got to build up another baby face to face brett
Little did I know he already had plans for brett after that
Which is obviously, you know finding the belts and all that stuff
But I said this is what you should do
You can make money off this
hometown kid
coming out
Standing up for the old guy. They used to be friends with his dad
One of the guys helped train him
Like this is a good story here
The best match of jason's career
That was the best match vrg and it paid off jason came out. He did the promo. I even put him over on the mic
I put him over
We pushed him down
I put him over we pushed him to the moon and
He drew everybody back for that show everybody that was at the cage match show same crowd came back
For jason versus brett
The match was fire
It was it was and i'm happy we were able to do that because after that
The title was thrown to be gone because he unified it with the limelight spell
Channing was going back to that group again channing
versus brett
And then they got rid of belt
So is it unified there's no more let's wrestle championship. It's just a limitless now
pretty sure
Have you seen it since
No, that was my question like that. I even I even asked this in the group chat like like don't you think it's weird that
Channing isn't walking out with the let's belt. He's gone
He's walking out with the tag belts the tag belts are gone too. We know that last milford show they were unified
With the m.u.w. So is the m.u.w. Title becoming kind of the let's title is that what's going on here?
They're gone because that's all another there's no other story with that
Probably can't talk about that one. You can it's not gonna hurt another it's a simple story
Okay, go for it. Yeah, I know we almost midnight. So this is up to you if you want to keep going
I'll finish this story, but then we probably should call it after that but yeah murdoch murdoch as you know
Who was part of the syndicate?
Owned the tag belts. They never belonged to Randy or let's wrestle
So these tag belts that they've been using for years the ones that me and brandy know have and
Were used all the way up until the last milford show were owned by murdoch
Yeah, so when they were getting cleaned up re-leathered repainted, that's all on murdoch's bill
No one bought them off him which I felt trouble for him for because he's not involved
He doesn't really do anything wrestling related anymore. He wanted to sell them to randy and randy never bought them
And so randy put it out there. Maybe people could buy them and turner was one of the people who was interested
Um and turner would hit him up and they try to work something out
But turner never paid him and turner did have one point have the money he doesn't now but he did back then he did have it
So I don't know exactly what happened there. Maybe it's a miscommunicado with that like some somebody didn't talk to somebody at the right time and
Eventually, I hit up murdoch and I was like
Murdoch, are you trying to sell your tag belts? Because this is me and benner the champs at the moment
He's like, yeah, i'm like
Can you and so i'm like what do you want to sell them for and then we started talking and I said look
We're voice texting back and forth at this time because at this point it's like full-fledged conversation for about a half an hour voice texting back and forth
In a sense, like he told me like hey, you know, I let randy use them. He was gonna buy them
He never did I kept paying to have them cleaned up releathered and fixed and all this and
And eventually he wanted to sell them online
In a couple groups he's in but he wanted them back
But then turner was interested and then turner never and him never got on the same page for the money wise. So
Now he wants them back
So he can sell them and I said
Well me and benner the champs for now
and uh
I feel like you know, I'll buy don't mind buying them off here
So that we can keep them around and using them because I feel bad to the situation that I offered him
Yeah, I offered him 400 bucks
But he wanted his original money back for them because he's been taking care of them this entire time. Well, did I know?
To be fair the last guy that repainted them and redid everything on them was me was you yes
Because that was when turner was going to buy them but never bought them. Yeah
So the entire time you had them turner did not pay them. Oh, they were also getting used for that as well
Yeah, so now you can see the frustration from murdoch's standpoint. Oh, no. No, I get it. No, it's so I
Being the good brother paid him what he asked
Murdoch told me his price he wouldn't budge on it
I paid him what he wanted that at the end of that conversation
He had his paypal had all the money in it and he was very happy and he reached out to randy told him they're mine
Uh very next day that randy was in the dojo. I went and picked the belts up
And uh was not happy with the condition they were in because there was no run in belt bags and
They probably went from someone's trunk to someone's trunk to someone's trunk to someone's trunk. Yep
So I put them in belt bags. They're currently in my living room. So I agreed to finish the story
with
The vets club versus the classic or yeah, and then after that just get rid of the belt
Because they're mine because they're going to be you know mine if you were not so that's why we did a title unification
And assistance do they need to be redone again? I saw I saw all the all the colors in the belt bag right now
We'll deal with that later. I'm glad that at least you have them so that you have like
Well, I also want to buy them because this is before like we all know that brandy knows in great condition now and had his
Kidney transplant is doing great. Well back then when I bought them
many moons ago, he what hadn't had his transplant yet, so my thought was
I'll buy them percent of metal value because as the stigma we were the first last ruffle tie champs. Yeah, and
The longest rating let's ruffle tie champs. So I thought maybe I could put them in a
Shadow box or something. It's a bit of a trophy case and hang them on my wall in case something happened to him
It's only with our with our cards, you know, I'll put the cards in there and make it another one
Shadow piece like I have for mark godfrey on my wall in this case. I'm happy to have stuff like that, you know
Remember by and
Yeah, so yeah, that's your own joke put that on yourself sir
So
That's why I bought them but then turner was gonna turn it was after I let
Unification match ended I asked her if she wanted to buy them and she said yes, I did
I let unification match ended I asked her if you want to buy them he does but he he doesn't can't afford it
At the time he couldn't now he can but I don't want to sell them
He says he's gonna rebrand all his belts. Anyway, so yeah, he got a new thing off of amazon belt looks great
Yeah, I saw all the belts that way because they're like engraved into the plate and i'm like, yeah good
He wants to have them all customized. Yeah me. I want to have the belt as a
Uh, it's a sentimental piece. So i'm gonna keep it and I might use it. You never know ring wars might get tag belts
You never know
Speaking of which, you know how I save you guys special things for your podcast. Yeah, of course
We are in the burning process of the discs but you get the sneak peek of the ring wars 2 dvd case
And very cool. I'm gonna buy myself one of those
You look at how shiny and pretty it is
They
Like it and everyone gets a little free insert for ring wars 3
Okay
They will be ready by ring wars 3 so anybody wants to buy a copy can buy them that I will buy myself a copy
So they're going to be 20 bucks away 20 bucks away
20 bucks away from the first ring wars, but I don't have a dvd player at my house
It's there here it is. It's called the tape on the on the edge here the tape trader series. I don't know if you see it from there
the trader series
JP you have a playstation, correct? No i have an xbox. That's
Series as you look down there. It says the tape trader series
That's what we call the series when we put the dvds out
So and there's only limited quantity I make 50 copies once they're gone. They're gone
Yeah, I gotta get myself one once they're gone. They're gone. That's it
So it's we call the team trader series or if you don't buy them from me once they're gone
The only way to get them is from what?
trading
So we're bringing that something back and then like I said it comes with a free insert
inside for the ring wars 3 and
Uh each day there'll be two discs set which will have the disc things on them the disc things telling you which disc is what?
And all that but those should be done by ring wars 3. I just got the master copies done. I checked one
They're all set. So the master copies will start burning
Uh monday or tuesday and i'll have them ready for ring wars 3
Like I said, there's only 50 copies. Um, then I know what I also do though
There are secret copies that you can only get from me. I do
straight disc copies there's five
straight disc copies with my signature on them
And what they are and there's their 10 bucks a whack. There's only five in existence. You have to catch me at the right time
to get those
so
Okay, the rest of them are the complete sets of the 20 bucks a whack, but those will be redone by
Ring wars 3 and you can get them then which is obviously in fairfield. So make sure you get them. Yeah
Do the thing before you you know, we we end this really quickly really quickly
Uh, you want to discuss a little bit about ring wars 3. I know we did a little bit
But do you you got any more you want to discuss about it?
Um, yeah, I would like to discuss that uh,
I don't
Things get announced as I said
Remember the birdshot conversation
That's how things get announced
Okay, so and also I believe all three of you are coming, correct
Uh, yes, yes, yes, I'll be there
Okay, so I know andy said he'd help me out and I know you know big cast here taught me out and I said
You're coming as well
so
Good perfect
Um as you saw today we announced a promo from alan prophet. This is the return match from his achilles
issue
He's wrestling chris rex
Um, he put a promo out on all of you guys want to drop that in here or not
But that is a thing that dropped today
Mind you there is a little wind because he did it at the fairfield community center
Main weather is is uh, fuck it. It says it right on there. It says man. It's quite wildly one time
It's a hot as hell outside nice. You're wearing a t-shirt next to me. You know, it's a fucking snowstorm
Literally. Yep. Literally that's happened this week
So dumb
Yeah
Main event wrestling
Really great showings it's just unfortunate he's coming against
Your savior out prophet in his hometown in his building
See you guys there so did kevin dunn direct this
Uh, so i just uh, why you gotta hurt my i just sent i don't know if it's loaded yet
That's the second promo. He sent me the first one
I have to veto because it was this is also a tidbits. I say for you guys here. Well here
So I send it to me and it should be loading and then let me know if it loads big cat
I sent it to you in messenger. I'm sending you the first
First
Sir and it was still about long it hit all the bullet points
I was like, can you do one like you're excited to wrestle in your hometown? Thanks. So he's like hey
They called me up I see some double didn't send you did you get it? Yeah, I got it right here. Oh god
So this is the other one because i have no idea
Oh, no audio hold on
So
Hey, what are you doing? This is my gimmick i'm gonna get the hat
No listen ring wars
three
MPw
Maine premier wrestling has called upon the services of your savior
Me alan prophet
march 14
Fairfield maine the community center of which
I built
Chris rex
I've watched your last two outings of ring wars. You've always come up. Oh, that oh riley's having a hard time watching this
Always impressive showing
It's like he just woke up and he's like, okay time to do this
Wow
MPw getting a dub
your savior
Dubcom sorry chris
Better like next step
So
Like he just so I will say the second promo that the one that you saw where he's at the community center much better, correct?
Much better besides the way. Yeah
Yeah, well, that's why it says in the in the writing of that. I even said ps
We apologize for the way in the main weather is rather, you know
quirky
Yeah, the kid to death
I grew up with the kid like majority my entire life
I'm glad he read it the promo. No, that's because I asked him to I was like you want me to be honest
He's like no worries. He didn't even he didn't even pause he goes
He does no worries. I'll redo it. I'm like, yeah, maybe a little more enthusiasm that you're wrestling in your hometown and you're excited
And you're gonna have family and friends there to watch you wrestle and represent the company that backed you for all this one entire time
Former champion, you know all that good stuff
But he was fair that you know, he understood and then he did well
He did good the side of remake was great
I'm glad that he took your advice because he is a very
Like i'll be straight shoe takes direction. Great. He took the correct direction
I will be straight shoot with him
He is a person that does not take criticism very lightly. So if he took
your criticism like
Obviously your advice and made it better i'm intrigued to see how that
a lot to
That should really mean something because
The way that he has been in his entire life when it comes to wrestling. It's been just like
Oh, i'm gonna do my own thing and I think it's great. No matter what
Right, so when he the fact that he did it twice
That like that that's that's great. I'm really glad well also
I know like he has a lot of respect for me, especially from our last match that we had at one of your shows there
The last time i'm pw. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he uh, I know he has a lot of respect for me
So i'm i'm happy that he actually listens and takes my constructive criticism
He got it right to the point too. If it wasn't for the wind
It was a pretty perfect promo for what I needed
but so yeah
But to the graphic here
We got representing the kill city cup also sponsored by the kill city cup the competition
Facing the strong brothers
I'm intrigued to see how this fucking goes. I think it's gonna be one of those I know
Secret match steel like show sealers of the night. I think it could be
Speaking of promos, you know has is gonna throw a good one up there sooner or later. Oh, yeah
Yeah, well the thing is problem was like this one. I even told this to the kill city cup sponsor. I said hey
We would have announced this sooner, but a certain mark moment had not gotten promo
Pictures done and didn't have anything. Um and had to go to the dojo to get them done by randy
Is that a rain gear and then I wait for the promotional poster graphic maker
And then I had to have then the heat randy didn't even send them to me moment did via email
Which is great. He didn't send them to me by facebook so that the quality was great
So once I got them for a moment, then I had to send them to also hashtag chris rex for amazing graphic work
I then had to send them to chris rex so they could finally make these and get them back to me
so that's why it took so long to get them and uh, because the cup goes all good bro, that sounds
Legit like that's totally a moment thing like you know, that's a moment thing. So
He has obviously still has his legit pictures. He's not he's not fucking around. So anyway this match i'm looking forward to
Um, there's like I said then there's as you saw in the promo
There's chris rex and uh, prophet got me here in the yeah chris ericson. Now i'm profit. I love it. Love it
That which is i'll give you a much better photo
Chris rex's match that three-way with dunkey and joey nails
Super over last show i'll say that I was very impressed
Especially the people there for him
So what that's great. You want those men also did not beat though the pop of the night, which is brandy not hitting his beard
That's great. I'm glad you're not hitting your beard
I'm sorry back to the you want to go back to mine go ahead go back to mine
Uh because uh by popular demand everybody
Bitched at me for not wrestling a lot of show
Everybody did so many people did and including the clue including the graphic
Four ring wars three people were bitching because you weren't front and center
In the comments and that's why
It's like eric is the biggest is the biggest draw. Why isn't he front and center? Like people were saying that in the in those comments
they were
Because I figured where maverick is from that town and where lee is also from that town
And then obviously I thought wesley pipes, uh, who looks like a legit fucking wrestler and is gigantic
And stands out in a fucking crowd. I was like those guys should probably be on the poster more than i
Should and then uh, someone said you probably should put yourself on there, which was chris rex because
So many people bitched that it was not on
Said ring wars 2 so here we are
The graphic maker said that you should have been on the poster
Because people know like people knew like people are picked. I was and there's the funniest part the people that were pissed
Half of them did buy tickets half didn't or are waiting. So i'm like you fucking assholes
Uh, but let's get to this match here, which has a story to it
We were talking about frankie flash earlier frankie flash now known as the ghost has made his return to wrestling
and the story in itself
Can't be more told it's this the former student coming back to face his former teacher
For many moons ago, but the backstory to this to the real life backstory is
Frankie flash and I had talked about a month ago
Um, we were talking about his mom's passing
And his mom
Used to come to idb shows avidly when he were frankie flash was there including when frankie flash was the idb champion
And junior weight champion at one point he won both belts
She had a lot of respect for me and really enjoyed what I put on for idb shows and also loved my wrestling his mom did
and
He just went to the gym and he was like
And he just wanted to tell me thank you for everything and he got me in my fucking feels
So that's why this match is happening because frankie flash's sister's gonna be there we're gonna make the shit happen
We're gonna have a good match and uh, we're gonna dedicate to his mom. So this is for his mom. That's awesome
Is that the only ones that were announced so far? You know, we go back more
Oh, yep. There you go. Yes. I'm intrigued also may be a a secret show stealer zane valentine voices the donkey boy bandit
Oh god
This means i had to listen to eric basco. You have to be a male 100 times
Uh, i'm intrigued. I know donkey boy's a fan favorite and zane valentine has definitely come out into his own
I feel like but of course eric bass will be there so you never know what will happen
He's a very they're gonna have a cowboy fight colorful character for sure
So there's more if we keep going
Oh, yes, that's right. This was the first one that was announced because we had the promos
Jason maverick earned himself a match of his choosing at ring wars 3 by winning his match at ring wars 2 by beating samuel matthews
Problem is the person he wanted was a nagro a nagro
Incoming unless he want to be there
But he said his boy to do the dirty work so to speak so he sent in jay harrew to fight
Maverick and if maverick can beat harrew
Then maybe then agro will face maverick
That's the story there which you can see the promos the promos are online too, which are dope. Yeah, the promo was great
Both of them are great both of them and someone recorded them did an awesome camera work job. I wonder who that was
Uh-huh
I did all the ecw feel with the moving around
It'll be um
And then also if y'all noticed there was a revised poster put up too, which I thought came out great with all the new pictures on it
Nice yeah, but we went from this one here
To the revised poster with alan prophet having new eight by ten pictures
Hey, did you get him? Did he send him to you?
About time so it doesn't look like a beat child anymore
I'm gonna say he sent him to me. He got him specifically for me. I gave him so much shit for those pictures like dude
How old are these pictures? I like can you get some old pictures because the photos that I had sent you were before you won the title
Yeah, so he sent me he finally got new ones done and he said and that's the new poster updated. You know what?
I don't think in the newer ones. He'll have what I sent you
Yeah, he sent me the new ones
I don't have what I sent you. Yeah, you're gonna hit him up because he got new ones
He sent me that's how I know he respect me because he sent me what I asked for
I'm gonna get new huh bitch and you're a longtime friend. He didn't say new shit
How dare you send eric your pictures but not me you asshole like
Because it's eric and i'm afraid of him and I love him so
Well, we're already past midnight and I don't and I
Even though I'd love to keep going. I don't want to keep you whole
Three hours and now we're here at three hours and 20 minutes each month
My girlfriend fell asleep on the couch like two hours ago. Yeah, you'll fall asleep on the couch too there
I was not falling asleep. I was reading something
I beg to differ
It's also I see I should have I probably should have railed in and someone had so many of the fucking questions
Like do we get all the questions on the kevins?
Um, yeah, they just tell you like I draw ratings
I'll show you the numbers afterwards if you want to see them
And i'm down
All right
I just saw here's how I know you were happy with it because I get to see you go get all happy and giggly over there
Okay, he's like i'm looking at my analytics
That's how I am on facebook when i'm looking at my analytics or when people share shit i'm like oh this is sharing shit
All right
He's going back. He's like, yeah
He's like he's got his mad scientist face on like yeah
I'll be honest
I I listen to people talk but i'm also scanning news stories and i'm doing other stuff, too
He's just old it looks like he's falling asleep all the time
He's also probably in pain still so
Actually, i'll be honest right now the way i'm sitting on the couch with my feet up I actually don't hurt
So this is actually really nice until I have to get up to use bathroom
Get up off that couch. Oh, no, no, I've done it twice already
I had the people times and I went to get up and I could push off on my left leg or my right leg
Not a problem, but I can't push off on my left leg right now and i'm just like yep. That's uh, that's
That's gonna be some chiropractors chiropractic visits
So what you should do now is take a screenshot of all the questions
You didn't get the answer and save them for next time because if you're on the floor
I know god damn it. You guys keep bringing me on here. That's because there's so much more we're gonna ask
We well, yeah
It's everything it's like you get guests
Every so often some of them are are out of the park and then there's other ones that hate to say it
That's just it's just like
Are we at the 30 minute mark yet? Can we?
Yeah, like I didn't respond to I saw that zack a couple years old snaps from when you did the snaps of the short stories
You put out on youtube from zack stuff
Yeah, i'd heard on one of them or he talked about the uh the match with me at the deserted dojo
Which was the second thing is the first inclination and then we and me and you can add the second one. Yeah, we did
You're welcome. Now is that that was mojo at the dojo?
Just to be like a good luck to you you don't know what then you're gonna get at an every given day
that is true and he's been at he's been asking to come on so
Yeah, work before he has to go to work
So we won't talk about clothes not legal
We have something to eat on here again, so right and and and uh,
Yeah, definitely go through those chats and see what questions they get answered i'll do them next time for sure
Yeah, careful
Yes, thank you as long as they're you know
Like and then if we can tie them in the like other questions you guys have it'd be perfect too so we're utilizing our time
Yeah, it's been at three hours and 22 minutes at this point
Uh, yeah, so you guys ever change your matches on the pre-gimmick?
Um, that's cat that's working on his his doing so because that match against dylan was fun
But it's also like two years old. Yeah, the uh, if you wait
All I don't think you want is the hyper poutine match, but as I say
After a ring wars has happened we released the footage
Yeah, so after not the weekend of ring wars 3 but probably after turners weekend with with the with the mew
After that weekend i'm gonna probably release ring wars to its footage because then i've had two weekends to sell the dvds
Is that the double weekend of coleslaw?
One ring war the first ring war show. Yeah, that dvd has already been released and the footage has been released
So if you want the footage you gotta hit up you gotta hit up randy and he'll drop box it to you because he's got all the files
But I have no dvd to play the actual video site
Well, if you want the file you can ask randy and the best time to ask him is when he's at a dojo then you just use the internet the dojo to drop box it to you
But if you look at the the mew's unplugged series that they put out on their youtube channel
You'll see there's any doubt there's there's ring wars matches on there now because I released them for public use
Or whether it be mpw mew crown of maine anybody who's featured in what what what is it called?
Uh unplug bell to bell promotions unplug bell to bell promotions. I think we have uh one of our matches with um, lost toxysos on there
Yeah, well, that's why I haven't done anything new yet because i'm so waiting for the uh the mpw match with uh
With uh jp and and cruel. Could that be cool?
I have waiting for the center randy
Yeah, that's why that's why the the intro is still the same because i'm still everybody's that's done matches. I'm still a little bit of footage
Also, if you want you can look at um the main wrestling collection thing that randy puts on the youtube there
He's released some of the matches from ring wars so now it's full on release
I tell everybody the map like once I once I sell the dvd
I don't have to go to the internet to get it done
I have less than 10 copies left. I mean randy's got some i got him put up on the limitless page to sell
But the ones on me once those are gone. I have less than 10 left of ring wars 1 once those are gone. They're gone
And so I've already released the footage. So that's why some are on the main wrestling collection page
And why if you look on the bell to bell promotions unplug series, there's already been I think cow and strange and lucha kid
I believe that's the only one that's left
Um, there's one other match too. I think that's been released as well. Oh
Don't know for sure
Um, but I know there's really been two matches that have been put up on the unplugged
So and then once like I said after the this month shows are over
Um, they'll those also be released from ring wars, too
So if if it featured me w they can use it. Um, mp3
Wants any other matches they can use it crown. Randy has full board to use it, too
so
and
I don't care because at that point like I don't i'm not gonna hold the footage hostage
I did the dvd. That's the point of the trade trader series if you want the whole show
In its entirety you gotta buy the dvd
It's just it's making it old school
You know, um, but then the footage will be released the next week
So you'll never see it on iwtv via randy. You'll see the matches released on youtube or facebook or wherever
But you'll never see it in its entirety unless you own the dvd
Smart isn't it?
That's the cleverness of it and I can always make more copies I have masters
I have two masters from the ring wars one and I have three masters from ring wars one
And I have three masters from ring wars one
I have three masters from ring wars two and i'm trying to keep three masters going forward if one disc ever gets burned out
I have other ones. Um, and then I have the hard drives with all the footage on it
With the unedited and edited footage
So I am keeping my backups like I used to just like i'd be days. So
cool
Yep
Yeah
Because i'm definitely gonna get mine because a news and palmyra and that's my hometown and chile
People even if you weren't on one and you should you want to just collect things just like the ring wars hats
It's all about collecting items
You know you got they you got I got three you got two remember he had number one number one the ring war hats
Number one sands are almost gone. So if you want to get one grab one you can um, and then
Ring wars two hats. We have a bunch left because I thought more people would buy them
But more people were more excited for the t-shirts, I guess
Or more anything else
Um, I didn't sell as much merch as I did at the first one worth a ton
But hopefully at this one like I would have the whole bunch of people like you have ring wars one two and three hats
I'm like, yeah three i'm wearing that's where you want right now. And they're like, okay cool. I'm gonna buy one of each i'm like
Get it get it
There is plenty
I'm also okay. I'll give you one more sneak peek, but this is all you're getting
All right
You got you got something else coming
To you hold on a minute
Uh-oh, uh-oh
That was a sneak peek. He just decided to leave fucking just disappeared. Our phone died or
There's a
Something go ahead. Look at your messenger. Okay
You can have this sneak peek I was gonna put this up on monday, but
All right, here we go guys. We're getting a little fancy. We are we getting an exclusive
Look at these. These are the ring wars three hats and ring wars shirts, obviously. Oh
Come on cattle. Oh, what does it have like the icicle look on them or fucking dope with these?
Yeah, I want this
I'm buying the
Center one the fucking out by all I love the center one the uh, like the icicle one. I sent you two different pictures. I'm gonna use that
Yes
Sweet, um the gray one the gray one. Uh, there's a new strict bit
That's why I was gonna ask is it a flex fit?
The flex bits are super limited because they're more expensive. Those are three
Those are 30 bucks. I only make like five every time so you gotta get them and I got them the other ones are all 20
Save a snap back from
Not saving nothing first come first serve you buy that's all point of it you get it when you get there
You guys get lucky because you can buy it before the show starts. So
I tell people like save me one. I might know you can buy it before the show starts. This is the
Privilege of being a worker or someone that helps with the show you get to buy your shit first so that if it runs out I don't care
They're gone. Why am I gonna give a shit? Well, I'm just showing up
Is there a possibility that one like maybe like towards the end of I don't like is that I don't know how many more
Ring wars you can do i'm hoping that this is the continuation because this is a amazing idea
Um, I don't know
Is there a like when we get to like a certain amount of ring wars is there a possibility you could do some type of merch
Where you show like like kind of like kind of like tour dates
Like have all the different logos all the different logos on the back like what day like like what day
We're doing a reverse psychology t-shirt down the line
But it's not until like if we get the ring wars 10 where it's got all the different logos on the back like what day
I'm sure not the front the back and says I was there and has all the ring wars. Yes
On the front just it's black but the back it says I was there and let's solve it fucking logos. Yeah
That's the idea but we'll get there eventually and that's gonna be paying that shirt to get like because i'm only do limited
It's gonna be like, oh my god, I'm gonna get a shirt. I'm gonna get a shirt. I'm gonna get a shirt
Because i'm only do limited it's gonna be like a limited run because it'd be so hard to get all the different prints on it
Right. Well anyway, um
Uh, yeah, that's that was that what was I gonna something I was gonna tell you guys so oh
You're all welcome
May 30th, you're all welcome
Yeah, I was the one that set that up you're welcome
What's may 30th? Yes. Thank you. What is the 30th? Yeah, you'll find out later. Nobody nobody hit you
I will I'll let you know nix because I can I can send you something but you can't put it on
Please do something
I will let you know nix at the okay. Hold on. I will send you this so you guys can secretly
Can you see it secretly if I send it to you all of you? Yeah. Yeah, you can send in the private chat
I'm gonna send it to to your boy here. Hold on
Give me I am like because I already asked about the 30th and they said I said like what's going on with that?
And I was also like go ahead kyle. You can share it with them, but don't put it public
It will be announced on the 14th in fairfield. Yeah
Um remember that world war three comment. I made their fellas from w
Now he's gonna show you what this is
Hold on. I'm gonna see it. Julie do the thing. It'll be in the mail be the messenger. That's fine. It's fine
Look at it. Then I want to see you guys reaction by the reaction response is what I'm looking for here
Uh nice
Hey, did you read it? Did you read what it says? Yeah. Yeah
I didn't know what the actual I just was just told but I didn't see what the actual name of the show
That's the name of the show and then it shows you
the participants
how many
rings and
Oh, I'm now reading it fully. I didn't like read it read it
JP's give me shit about like dozing fucking and if you've ever seen uh, wcw war war three
You'll understand what that is if you're not looking up on youtube and you'll be like you're doing what i'm like, yeah
Yep, yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep
Damn
That's cool
Yeah, um
Randy's also gonna be helping me with it. So he's gonna be helping sell tickets for it and stuff, but we'll get that all out there
Cool, can you get out all the beats until?
We can't all the deeds will be giving out ring wars three
So stay tuned
All right, we're gonna be pushing that for a couple months and I think i'm gonna hate doing the group chat for that
Because it's gonna be like 80 000 people
I'm gonna do a separate chat for like
But now I think i'm just gonna do one big chat. But anyway, i'm gonna hate life that day
I'm gonna book all that and uh, but it's
For good reasoning and uh, I had to get randy on it too because he's the one that originated it. So
Holy shit
So remember because we used to do it in brewer?
Yes, so now we're bringing it back, but i'm making make it better
And it's in the hometown
so
At the end I got the consent from the sun. So
Cool
We're going for it
Let's go now you're all excited. You're like y'all y'all be like, yeah, they're like kids in a candy store now
I really know you're excited. Well, you're like is it may yet? No, you all fuckers will find out later
Hopefully we'll fall through like every other fucking thing that well, here's the thing like we i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you um
As I was talking to aiden andrews earlier, I know we're going longer than time, but this is stuff
You probably should know guys
b and aiden andrews, um, because he's going back to that building that y'all used at the uh, the uh,
It's got hegan there for him for matt mussel the one on the
Um third show. Yeah
Yeah, what was what's the place called?
Um, oh are you talking about the next show that's happening? Yeah, it's got hegan. Yeah on the river, uh, the space on the river
Is that the one?
He's going to the space on the river in scotty. Okay, we're doing this fairfield show
well
This fairfield show fairfield is not letting many people run there anymore for obvious reasons because people would ruin the building or damage
You're not taking care of it. So we're walking on proverbial eggshells
Well, I think the same thing's happening with aiden andrews venue because he's trying to book out more dates and they're not confirming with
Him on the other dates and I said they're probably doing a test room show much like us and fairfield
So we're both walking on eggshells. We're running out of venue options. And also I can't go back to palmyra now because I just found out
One of the water pipes in the ceiling for the sprinkler system
blue
Oh shit, so half the room
Is literally coated in water
Carpets ruined and the ceiling is like dripping and busted
So literally even if I want to go back to palmyra, which I don't because it's too expensive
It's not it's not cost effective. I couldn't anyway because their ceiling's ruined. So literally if fairfield doesn't work
Sorry, more than the water
the problem with
The venue that neil has for april is
The amount of people
It's a it's a amount of people issue. So if there's too many people in that room
They all of a sudden
Turn it into a price issue
because when we ran there
we had
Just turning out. We had a good turnout. We had a good turnout
And apparently it was too much for them
I wasn't booked but they had a good turnout and they want because they saw how many people turned out. Oh, they want more money
They wanted more money. So that's why the third mmbw show
In the same same town but at a different venue because at that time
That was an off season for that venue that we were at
Whatever the community center is in scotian. Yes, so it was cheaper
They wanted more money because they saw what we were bringing in
And they were new business at that time
They had just became a business that year
When we ran that show
so
It's they're more established now
He had a line of communication with them
And from my understanding and then gave them all the dates and they're full and as soon as he gave him the date
They stopped communicating and I said I guarantee you they're waiting to see how your show goes
It's like you're walking on eggshells
So it's the same thing with this with this fairfield deal and luckily I talked to a lady who knows me very well
From the many years I ran at fairfield
And she's put on my paperwork for both dates. So I have the dates reserved the problem is
All depends on the scos
On top of that on top of that. I just did a gig at the one of the else lodge
And I was talking to lady who schedules all their events in their event center
and their pavilion
And I guess they had wrestling there once before out the ox lodge in water bill
And the group that was in there
Damaged their carpet
And ruined the building for everybody to run in
however
I don't know who did it, but they ripped the carpet with the ring
Instincted but I said the same thing
But I said the stage you can't help because customers are in there drinking and eating and can't help that
I said, however, we have people that put we put stuff under the carpet. That's not going to be any damaging and I um
As I told
The lady I said I gave her comped general mission tickets to come to this event
I gave her a bunch so that she can bring
Her her husband some other board members
So we're trying to fix the bridge with the water bill elks co
It's a backup building for other big me or even for for
Meal because they're running out of venues that are feasibly possible
So they're coming to the show
So we're walking on even more eggshells because i'm trying to rebuild a fucking bridge with the water bill elks lodge
That I didn't even burn
I don't know who did that but whoever you are, you're a bunch of fucking idiots because you didn't put carpets under your fucking poles
And it ripped the carpet what building was that again water bill elks lodge
Oh god, what was that three w?
No
And and it wasn't also either pspw. So because they did champions. Yeah
So
That must have been way beyond my time. Yeah, was it wrath? Maybe no he did his show at champions
Yeah
Wait, it's a
Whole different right? I was there for that
out of town
So I don't know what it was but i'm fixing the bridge that someone burned
And it's big enough if you use a like randy's ring size, you can do it. It's big. It's huge
so
Yeah, we're all walking on eggshells. So if this show works out
So at the end of the night let's all work together and clean this bitch up make sure it's nice and shiny and new
It's just making sure it's clean
right now we're running into another issue too because
a little birdie
Told me on monday and I just talked about it to randy today and I talked about it with aiden andrews and a few other people
Monday someone told me someone was going around water bill
Ripping down posters
I don't know. I have a feeling I know what it is
Um, but I don't I can't confirm anything. I don't know if I see another wrestling poster down that way
So I uh, I already anticipated it when I got told on monday
So I got new posters made with a revised one and I met up with mo on thursday because I was in palma
Hour for my gig. So I just went over to pitsfield where shreyl is dropped him off. They're going out tuesday to go posturing again
well, the irony was
the irony was
Today if y'all were in a group chat, you also maverick's post. Yep, you found a poster in the trash
And he's a trash man, he found the poster in the trash the irony so somebody
Has been taking down posters and thank you kevin for telling me you saw our posters. Yeah, so at least
I gave another hundred posters to mo
He's gonna go recheck around fairfield water area in the surrounding areas
Let me know what he finds if any are missing
He'll know because he did the first run with with with his buddy and me so
I've been up to doing some so
He knows where to look for
He knows where to look for but the fact that we're dealing with that
Yeah, also pisses me off. Yeah, I accept. Yeah, do you see that? You all see the post I posted on my facebook
There's a company out of somewhere else that's running the same issues, but they document when they take put posters up now
To show it like someone's been taking their posters down. What's the general area?
What of wherever that place is beginning? I don't know. I just shared it because I thought was I saw brutal bob
Oh, okay. I thought it was like it's on my fingers but well, I think big cats looking for it. You'll see
Brutal bob shared it a bunch of people. It's like
20,000 views on it now
Okay, no, I know he's talking about because I saw the irony that like it's been shared by so many wrestling people
It's got like over 20,000 views
You think that's crazy?
right
That that video's got 20,000 views just because we were like this is bullshit. I'm sharing it
like they're
Wild it's wild and on that it's not a pun intended, but it is
Always founded the world of yeah
Business in general
You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar
In our industry
I try to do business
professionally and so does
this wrestling parole
See we were running in the raw weight rec center in a broadway township for a very long time
And our crew has always gotten out to pound the pavement and place posters up for our events
And our crew just happened to be at this beautiful convenience store where we did hang up a poster
Full poster exactly for our upcoming event on march 1st
And just so how apropos
Our gentleman that hung our poster up came back to this store and saw that our poster was ripped down
in favor of a brand new poster by a company called
gremlin house wrestling now
I am not going to accuse the owner or talent or anybody involved in gremlin house
Wherever you show us a picture showing that theirs was up and they took it down
It's very convenient that our rockers just happen to be ripped down and mares happen to be put up
and
That's that's crazy and he goes on to do this at multiple locations if you watch
Different places. Yeah, and he shows the picture of theirs up and then it down and right where their poster was is now that
So it's like calling them out saying hey assholes. You're the reason why
wrestling
I fear
All you're doing is screwing over
The boys at that point, I guarantee you more than one of those posters
At any of the places that you guys put or moe poster for fairfield
Whatever whatever has been taken down
Well, here's the thing too moe. I gave him the posters the day of ring wars 2
Right. So like we were selling the tickets and doing the handoff flyers. He already had the posters, right?
I gave some to him and I gave some to to jason and lee because they live down there
and
The posters were gone and literally that tuesday after ring wars 2 so literally two or three days later
Right, then was out putting the posters up and so was lee and jason. So the posters have been up
theoretically the whole month of february until
This last week and a half, right?
So luckily we caught it early because we still have a half a month to go
And they're going back out tuesday to do it which thank moe and his buddy and I already gave a compensate of them extra
They gave me posters the whole nine is only 100 of them again because I didn't know how many may have gone taken down
I said here's 100
Put out what you can
Whatever doesn't go up doesn't go up. That's if you don't put them all up. That's a good sign
If they all go up
That's not a good sign that's not a good sign
Because I gave them exactly 300 posters
Unless unless he finds new areas that he can put them up
My place he didn't get to because it was too late. I think was like benton like clinton
But he did he did fairfield
Winslow waterville oakland
in the little small towns in between
He could easily put one up at clinton variety like there. I know no risk
Clinton benton he didn't have time because those are like on the way back
Um, and he didn't do unity which I didn't expect him to um,
That's why I tell him if he had any more he could do scouting
But he did it his hometown in pitsfield and he did paul myra because we ran their last in newport neeson
Forks was the area we ran just ran in
So I said you should run them up where we just ran so that people see it and go. Oh, they're going over here instead
So he did a good job
And then whatever he had he even did extra like whatever he had left he wasn't much
When he went posting for mpw the ones closer to the interstate he put them there, too
Just to get rid of get them out just with like all my i'm gonna have them anyway. I'll put them out so he
Put out our posters with the mpw posters that were
You know what's that right? So
Stupid fucking stupid
You're me or you aren't you? I'm dude. I'm mad like and i'm the one that's financially invested
You're not i'm the one that's bad like
If they should catch people
It is what it is. I I understand the territory stuff and I understand that there's been multiple people there's no territories anymore though
It's gone
I know but and I ran that building venue for nine years like I should have like seniority over anybody. I read it monthly
That's what i'm just saying. It's like it's it's nobody owns a building
I don't understand if
We're supposed to be helping each other out
Is basically what it is. It's like right that's that's why I really like ring wars
Is because it's been closer to motion that's getting involved
Yeah, the only one that's not involved in ring wars three this time is his crown, but they are involved for the next one
Which we you guys know
That they're getting me
So right there they are involved. They're sending me
They sent I can't remember whether it's 74 or five but there's no who gives a shit if you're running a building or not
As i'm saying it's got to be people that aren't involved
because I only invite three to four companies and
The ones I currently work with are the ones i've been sticking with for now. I was going to change it after
the
Well at the 30th because I might reach out to more depending because obviously there's a lot more people that need to be coming in
but um because of the match so but um
Uh 30th was supposed to be the first one where I start reaching out more because obviously where my venue changed from palmyra to fairfield
I didn't want to do that yet
I wanted to wait to reach out to more companies because I wanted to make sure until things were solid
Well, I thought things were solid palmyra now look what happened
Right, so i'm not gonna do that so matt stop ripping fucking posters down
No, he wouldn't do that he's too busy trying trying to get me to book him
Uh, exactly
All right, so all right, this has been almost four hours and this I was trying to get you out
Chicago i'm gonna get a bill for this. This is you told me three hours. I I commission after that
Well, you know i've done three of these now and i'll get you your best responses and ratings
You think you should throw me a little bone here as soon as he doesn't pay us money
Me
For you from get for gear so
And then you were talking to me about singlets which you know what you should just come over and try on a bunch of my old
Singlets and see if they fit you. Yeah, I should I know where you live. So yeah
You know just let me know a day that you can come by and try them all and be like listen
These are all the ones i'm not wearing. I have some they're basic just basic colors that might work for you
But like try them on
I mean, obviously all the flamey ones might be more prone to me because that's like my gear
I'm looking for like purple or something that was similar. It's close to what you what you can say. Go. Let's see
Or green you know to try mine. I do have a purple and black one
And then I do have uh, some other just basic color ones you can take a look
Maybe you've got some you see some go. We'll try that on and then try it on
I even got some like the mark henry field to it that the big
All the old over the shoulder boulder holders like all the hide the boobies the bandwagon
Weets now like those ones definitely. I definitely I love all of you like we like those like x-ralp big old fatties
Well, the thing with big cat is i'm not trying to lie he's more my body size you guys not so much
Yeah, I am losing weight. So i'm working on it anyway. I'm not
So all right, yeah, just let me know big guy you can come over but you can try them on here
I don't care like just try them on and then i'm gonna bring them to my house and be like, yeah
I'll give them back to you eventually
Well here it is dude. I literally have remember the old gear bag of doom thing that gp probably remembers
I literally have a gear bag of doom, but it's all my gear
It's really like I literally I you might want to like take a video and save it bringing up on here like I have
probably like
12 custom singlets now
That's how jp riley's gear started was from the gear bag
I think the best part is when he was wearing the black and white like penguin panda fucking shorts
Those were once in
It was the blue and black tribal pleather pants gear bag of doom
that
Jose
Yes
Yes, jose from the players. Yeah
I was like 220 when I wore those in the singlet one of your singlets was mine
That's the price of that singlet went on to be jason maverick's first singlet
Wow now
So what can we find you? Uh there eric?
Old school ej and all platforms except for I don't do x or twitter what I call I do snapchat
I do facebook. I do insta
And that's all old school. Ej is the hashtag. So you hit me up on that at old school. Ej just like it sounds old school
Ej one word
One word, um, you can get me on like I said insta facebook snapchat
The other thing is is you can get main ring wars
On facebook grab tickets that way hit me up or hit up main ring wars or grab tickets front row
Which is ringside seating is sold out
Uh second row back is available. Those are only 15 bucks a whack. We already got over 60 presale. So
Um, not too concerned right now probably by the day of the show
Probably i'll get about 100 presale. This is the once march hits which works now. So starting probably monday
We'll have the push of a bunch of people buying tickets last minute
Um, so that's what happened last time. That's what happens every time
uh last time last uh
uh
Last ring wars two going before the doors open. We had 150 presale
Wow, yeah, that's why the room was packed
Stay in a moment. So
We'll see how it goes
We'll see hopefully it's a banger from then yeah, definitely man
Well, thank you so much for coming on again
Thank you
We'll see you in five weeks for part four
That's a boy
Part four
I need the questions from here and i'll be your starting point
Yeah, I saved them all
So, thank you so much for joining us again
Thank you
The per sessions podcast
Masscom wants to say bye
Bye eric
Melchick has run behind me three times
It's like putting it in
I'm not talking about big cat i'm talking about the little one
Thank you again eric have a good one
See you guys
All right. Do you guys want to do the plug or do you want me just to release a date so you guys can go to bed?
Go get out of here
I'll plug shit real quick
Really really god
Okay, if arlo will stop
I'm gonna go
Arlo will stop
I know
He's dying
JP O'Reilly
YouTube, Facebook
Pornhub probably
I don't know fucking no
March 7th
Geno's in Portland, Maine
I'm gonna be
Teaming with my best friend in the fucking world
Against the fucking
Stupid little ass pathway
Them little bitches
I'm gonna fucking grab both of their dicks
I'm gonna fucking twist them
Anyways
You know
March 14th is
Ring Wars 3
You know what it's my hometown
I might just come say hi
You know I miss that town
I come say hey
The next night MPW
Old town
Nothing is confirmed yet
But I have an idea
And
I'm sure it'll get violent
And then March 22nd
Franklin, Maine
Main event wrestling
I think I know what I'm doing
Might be a little
Mystery
If you know what I mean
So leave that with what you will
Okay
Next go for it quick
Oh god
March 7th NAWA at Geno's
This is all really really really
Verifying if my hip is good to go or not though
Yeah, motherfuckers
On an injured reserve here
I'm just saying
I hope I'm ready to go
Because I love working Geno's and we'll see what happens
I'm supposed to go to NWWE
On the 8th but I might skip
That trip just to get through
Geno's and then I can go a week
And of course Ring Wars
MPW the weekend after
The 14th and the 15th MPW is the 15th of course
And EW on the 22nd
In April
There is
Fight at the Dome
I think that's the 7th if I remember correctly
No it's the 5th
Anyway there's that in Arasaga
And I know what I'm doing
But nothing's been put out yet
I don't want to be like
I'm not playing spoiler
Oh find me at all social media
Platforms at D-O-T-D-N-X
Sorry my brain is fried at this point
I'm in some pain too
Find me at all those social platforms
Also find me at ProWrestlingTees.com
Slash D-O-T-D-N-X
Go buy some of my t-shirts I'm broke
It would be nice to have money
And yeah
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Twitter as well as ProWrestlingTees
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I don't pay these guys they complain
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On every platform
Really quickly just going to go through the dates
Really quick because everybody is ready to
Kill it's almost 1 o'clock now
This is for March 7th
NAWA
Gino's Triple L
For Levi
Phoenix Pro which I might be doing
WEE on the 8th
Where is Spade
I have no clue where Spade is
Prevost at the 9th
Dude
Relax
Fucking drunk ass
14th is Ring Wars
15th is the PW
The Phoenix rises and burns to the fucking ground
Let me list
21st
MEW on the 22nd
It's a jam packed
I might have missed a date too
Thank you guys so much for watching
Nix is ready for bed
Jesus I am
I was ready for bed two hours ago
I've had somebody waiting for another six pack
So
JP is ready for another six pack
Also this doesn't matter
But the scenery that you see
In the background
As far as the next live
Per session podcast
I will be in a brand new setting
Because I will be moving out of
This house
No
I will be in a temporary living condition
But I will still be doing the podcast
It will be less
Looking chairs in the background
No it will be more
Of a basement looking setting
Alright guys
Thank you guys so much
We'll catch you guys later for the next one
It will be
Pre-recorded for now
Until the end of the month
Literally until the end of the month
I gotta go clean up my beer cans
Kwaaaaaaay
Thank you for watching!