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Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of First Sessions Wrestling Podcast.
I am your host, the main of main Big Cat, Tyler Adams.
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Welcome! Now, as of right now, it's going to change, but I am solo right now.
I decided to jump on early, just because I wanted to go through a little bit of news.
And then we're going to have Eric Johnson at 9 o'clock for you guys.
Now, typically when we do something like this, we do a full interview and then Saturday,
we'll do the news. We'll do some news, whatever.
There's not really a lot of news for this week. It's, you know, Elimination Chamber getting ready for that.
Nothing really going on with AEW and TNA. So I decided to go on a little early, just because
I wanted to at least talk about something instead of not doing a show for tomorrow.
So we all saw the Royal Rumble, hopefully. February 1st came on.
Overall, I want to say not really the best. I was really disappointed. I didn't say AJ Lee.
So many people wanted to see AJ Lee. So bad. I was one of them all day, like people in the crowd,
chanting AJ Lee. They're really hoping. And we got Nikki Bella instead of AJ Lee.
I'd rather have AJ, nothing against Nikki, but I think AJ is a bigger draw than Nikki Bella.
But so we didn't really have anything like jaw dropping for the men's.
We did get Alexa Bliss back as well as Charlotte Flair, who did end up winning the women's Rumble.
And I was like, oh, oh, there's so many others that could have won it.
And I was I didn't want Charlotte to win it because it's nothing against Charlotte.
She is a great talent, but I think she is the Roman Reigns of the women's division,
where they're just shoving it into her. You know, they're just like, here's Charlotte.
Look, look, Charlotte's right here, guys. Look, look, let's let's see Charlotte.
And I just don't think I don't don't like it. I think there's other women in the division
that can be boosted up to that level. I hope Ria Ripley beats the piss out of her.
Really, I really hope that. So I got right here all the all the men's Rumble entries.
We got AJ Styles back, too, which was awesome. Speed. I don't know, really no speed to this
streamer, but apparently he's big. I got the clip of him getting murdered.
You didn't see that. But yeah, so all the entries of the men's Royal Rumble.
I can't even say I'm fast enough.
She was great.
Jacob fought to.
Men's Joe Hendry, Roman Reigns, Drew McIntyre.
Shit, I can't I can't talk fast enough. AJ Styles. Yeah, so happy.
Braun Strowman back. John Cena, which possibly can go be going to heal that promo that he did at the end of the at the end of the night.
Kind of makes me feel like we're going to see you heal John Cena for for WrestleMania.
And then, of course, Logan Paul book.
Logan Paul, he's very talented, but I hate seeing fucking Logan Paul.
I'm not a fan of Logan Ball.
So in the rumble, we had.
So I think his name is.
I can't remember what his name is, but he used to be the bodyguard for AJ Styles.
His tag team partner came in and got murdered by Christian.
Camilla Hayes. I know him as Christian Castanovia.
So speed came out and he did a little bit of his stuff like said speed.
The streamer, I think he's a reaction streamer.
You know, he reacts to videos and stuff like that.
And he gets murdered.
It's weird out of his fucking shoes.
It's in the ropes.
Fucking death.
Oh, it's so funny. It's so funny to watch now.
At the same time, too.
Some people do like Logan Paul.
He has a big he has a big fan base.
I don't I don't like Logan.
You know, he's a big fan base.
He's a big fan base.
I don't I don't like Logan.
He's a good talent.
I just think he's a dickhead, just like Hulk Hogan.
Oh, hey, JP O'Reilly, we talk about the rumble.
Hard.
Hello. Hello.
How are we doing?
Right. How are you doing, buddy?
I forgot you started at eight.
You started today. It started a little bit ago because it's not really that much talk.
I just want to talk about the rumble.
You know, not really huge surprise except for Alexa Bliss coming back.
Charlotte Flair, AJ Styles, Braun Strowman.
I was just covering speed, getting fucking spirit.
I was serious.
It's a great viral clip.
Do I see it again?
Yeah, I'll play it again.
There's no angle that's terrible.
No, there's another angle that looks even worse than this one.
They just his head snaps.
Is that Bronson Reed is his name?
Is that his name that speared him?
I think so.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, that.
Oh, my God.
I see I'm blanking out to a breaker.
Braun Breaker. So I was like Bronson Reed.
I'm like, no, he's injured.
He broke his foot.
Bronson Reed's the other guy.
That's right. That jumped off the cell.
War games. Yeah.
War games and fucking broke his ankle.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Just gets murdered.
Just murder there.
And I was just saying that also that we're all sad that AJ lead wasn't actually in the rumble.
I was so disappointed.
I was going to get up and start skipping across the living room.
And Hannah would have been like, what are you doing?
I'd be like, let me live my childhood, please.
Like growing up in high school, watching my first.
Like, I can't say first.
This was like 2011, W.W.
Live events that were happening in Maine.
So this was like summer punk, like time of era.
I made a custom shirt that was one of the quotes that punk used to say.
I did crazy chicks.
It was the AJ Lee tribute sort of thing.
And I wore that.
And he actually pointed it out during his entrance, which was funny.
That's awesome.
Yeah. Yeah.
We got Nikki Bello instead.
And like, like I was saying, I'm not.
Bro, I would have.
Nothing with Nikki, but I she's not a big draw to me.
No, it's like no one really reacted either.
And the people that did react, they just hated it.
Well, Charlotte Flair got booze, which was hilarious.
And then she went on raw and got booze.
Because before you jumped on this, this basically saying that they're
basically making her the Roman Reigns of the woman's division.
Like they're pushing her and nobody wants to fucking see her.
I just dropped the purse session.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
So mad at me right now.
He literally just went like this and just went and it's on his birthday.
It's what a dick head.
Fucking drop your cat on the fucking.
He's already disabled.
You're going to make him even more disabled.
He's going to be fucking squealing in a wheelchair.
Like birthday too.
So terrible.
I didn't even get you a gift.
I'm sorry. I came home with my gift is dropping you on your face.
Sorry, buddy.
So I got the all the woman's woman's entrance right here.
Liv Morgan.
I don't know who that is.
Oh God.
You don't watch today's product.
Not a lot.
Uh, uh, uh, daily.
I just, I can't, I don't know.
I've ever seen.
I can't say his name.
I probably could if I had a second.
It's a blitz.
It's a Lena.
Uh,
Was that true status there?
There's status was in the rebel.
Nia Jax,
Nikki Bella,
I just get shit about Nikki.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Once I did.
Cause it's same thing with the men's rebel once the fact that Logan Paul was 30 was
garbage.
Um,
Yeah.
Because at one point you're like, oh, there could still be this person or this person.
And then next thing you know, it was like 28.
I don't even remember who it was.
And I was like, all right, well, if the next person's not Logan Paul, then Logan Paul's
30 and he wasn't.
And I was like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Uh, I was like, oh, like this, this sucks.
I was, I was so looking forward to it.
And, um,
So we, there was only a few matches for the rumble.
So there's just the two rumble.
There's just the two rumbles.
The, uh, was a DIY.
Yeah.
Two out of three falls.
Yeah.
And then the, uh, of course, uh, Cody Rose versus Kevin Allen's match.
Numbered card that they've ever done.
Yeah.
A preview for a PLA.
Yeah.
Fucking Charlotte Flair comes in at 27 and only puts in 15 minutes and wins.
Right.
Uh, yeah.
It was in there for, uh, Bailey was in there for 46 minutes.
Bailey's in there for 46 minutes and then Morgan and Howard said, beat the record.
Yeah.
And Howard seven, 47 seconds.
Yep.
That's even longer.
That's five minute difference from EOS.
That's crazy.
Cause they had a lot longer than the men's cause the men's, the longest one was Penta,
which was 42 minutes or 42.
Yeah.
Shortest amount.
Uh, there's a graphic out there.
I love it.
It says longest as Penta for 40, whatever minutes.
And then it's, uh, shortest was Ludwig for six seconds.
And then under the graphic, it says, uh, second number of seconds in believing.
And it's shameless for 30 seconds because the entire time that Joe Hendry came out and
did his entire shine, he's shame is sitting in the corner at miring Joe Hendry as he's
doing his entire shine.
And then he whips and does the camera zoom in bit and he just walks up to her and he
goes, that was awesome.
It was just like an admiration to him.
Oh shit.
Ooh.
So three way on smack dance and it's LA night versus Drew McIntyre versus Jimmy Huso for
qualifying match for the, um, elimination chamber.
Interesting.
I was not expecting J Uso to win it.
I was, I was not.
No one was.
Not a single, I was thinking it was going to be going down to him and see that I wanted
punk, but then dude, I yelled some obscenities in this living room.
Let me tell you what, when I watched Logan Paul of all people living in a punk, I may
have seen how he was eliminated right on his ass.
Oh my gosh.
Didn't even give him a chance to post just fucking yeah.
When he got eliminated, I literally stood up and I, my kid was asleep.
I was going to lose it.
I said so many things that I can't.
Yeah.
I was like, I was like, holy shit.
Like I hope he got an earful at back.
He did from others, but like then there was the true, it's Drew had a backstage situation,
but I don't think it referred to Logan because if you watch Logan and, um, McIntyre never
touch.
Yeah.
So apparently Drew McIntyre was supposed to do some kind of something and then his
either spot was cut or he got eliminated too early is what they were saying.
So, I don't know.
But like, yeah, J Uso, uh, who you think J Uso is going to wrestle Gunther or Cody?
It makes sense.
It was Gunther because he has the past with Gunther.
Like he couldn't beat Gunther for, um, no, did he beat Gunther for the intercontinental?
Uh, yes, he did.
And then lost it in 30 days and he lost it.
And then he tried to beat him at Saturday night's main event and he lost.
Right.
So I feel it makes sense cause he has no beef with code.
There's no really no beef at this rate.
Like we're getting, you know, Cody and maybe he'll saw Sina look at, oh my God.
Yeah.
That promo that he did at the end was like crazy for the men's and w and then look at
what the qualifying matches are still for next week in the week after you are definitely
going to have Seth a hundred percent in there.
It's already seen on punk.
You're going to have an all star men's elimination chamber and maybe one wild card, maybe like
this is going to be five all stars, then a wild card.
Almost makes me want to go buy a ticket.
I know.
You ain't going to Toronto.
I know, but I want to, I want to see it cause it's, it's you might as well just get a ticket
to Vegas, maybe.
Yeah.
I want to see it though.
But yet Sina like that promo to saying like, uh, is like, he's saying that I'm going to
win it not because it's best for business, uh, best for me.
It's best for business.
Here's my scenario.
I really think that this, this would work out.
Sina wins it.
Sina goes and faces Cody.
Sina takes the belt off Cody.
So he gets the 17 and then loses it to a money in the bank winning CM punk.
Possibly.
Yeah, possibly.
Or we just get money in the bank 2011 all over again.
In 2025, we're just, just runs up the ladder and grabs it.
No, no punk and Sina for the title in like in 2025, like it was in 2011 when punk won
the title.
Oh yes.
Yes.
It was 2011 money in the bank.
That was the contract expired and all that stuff.
Yeah.
Yep.
You could read 14 years of the making.
Oh my gosh.
That'd be so great.
That'd be insane.
Yeah.
No, how, if it was punk in the, in the run, in the money in the bank, you just ended up
doing a Lester spot.
I really, I hate, I hated that spot so bad because I'm like, why the fuck hasn't anybody
else?
He's just standing there and he's like this, that he's like, he's just staring into the
problem.
Be like, grab the briefcase and go.
He was supposed to win it.
You know that, right?
Really?
He was originally supposed to win it.
And then the day of they told him, it's like, it's like, no, Brock's going to come back.
It was like, no, Brock's going to come and do this and you're not going to win it.
He goes, cause nobody else, nobody else knew.
So he was talking about, he said, if you watch it, you watch it, everybody's, everybody's
surprised cause they're, everybody was fucking surprised.
They weren't expecting to be there.
They should not have let him stay up there like that.
Cause he should have at this point, you're like this.
So like, why wouldn't you just grab it?
He said that the camera, the camera didn't show him.
He did a briefcase slip.
So when he saw him and he, his, it slipped out his hand.
So he's trying to grab it.
But anyways, it's nine o'clock.
We got Eric Johnson in the background, right on the dot.
So welcome to a part two for Eric Johnson.
This is the, we had so much fun blast on, we had to get him right on.
So ladies and gentlemen, the owner of ring wars and former let's wrestle champion.
Let's sadly let's wrestle tag team champions and MEW champion Eric Johnson.
Hey, how's it going?
What's up buddy?
Back again.
Round two.
I watched it.
I'm sure we'll caught what spawned us as I remember I was watching one of your guys's
clips and I remember it was a, it was an IDB clip of something.
You guys were like, we should have asked him more IDB stuff.
And like, you know, you guys can just ask him off to be stuff on a part two and perfectly
okay with it.
Deep in the trenches.
Yeah.
We had a week to figure out some questions.
So I'm sure you have like either an arm length full or like a small notepad full or sure
this point.
Like, like I didn't, I don't want to ask like some like, like why you sold it and stuff
like that.
Cause I didn't want to really like, Oh, I'll ask some brutal questions.
It was years ago.
Um, like I, I rather get the information out there.
I'm sure a lot of people want to know why I sold it.
Like I remember when everybody, like when I first announced I was selling it, everybody
was all excited.
It was like, Oh, something fresh.
And then as soon as it got sold, everybody's like, I wish you still owned it.
Like, fuck it's out of place.
Process of how it got exchanged over, which was like kind of the silly gimmick of it all.
Cause you had all of the entire roster sitting in the locker room and then coming out into
the area and like talking to who is now going to own it.
It was just the way that you're out there.
So I'll tell you why, what was the reason that made me want to sell it.
And then I'll tell you, I'll start there.
Like and I'll go from there.
Um, y'all y'all remember I, I used to run the Skye Higgin fair ships.
I was the one that rebuilt that bridge with Walter height and Stan from Stan's fries,
God rest his soul.
Um, Stan from Stan's fries used to have me, I don't know if you remember this O'Reilly,
but we used to do those birthday parties.
Yeah.
So we used to do those birthday parties every year for his grandson.
He paid us a lot of money to do those.
And I'd actually put on a pretty good show for what he paid.
And he was like, we should get you into the fair.
We'd have to sit down with Walter.
He was the guy who runs the fair.
He also runs the big car dealerships in scout.
He gets, yeah, he's the owner.
So he's the guy.
So I had to go with Stan meet Walter height and explained to him.
Luckily I showed him the stuff from when we were on Fox and I was like, Hey, this is what
I bring to the table and this is what we can do.
And I'd really like to try it.
He's okay.
Well, we'll try it.
Cause that first sky he can fair run.
It was a bunch of spot shows.
It was like two here, one here, two there, one here, one there, two here.
Like, so I filled all the dates with other towns in the state to fill the gap.
So we had a full two week run of wrestling.
But anyhow, after we built it back up, um, I started running area.
I did three years worth.
And then that the third year is what made me decide actually that I wanted to sell it
to be because that third year I wasn't wrestling at the time.
I just bought through a bunch of surgeries and health issues and was on the mend and
getting better shape and feeling good.
And I had all the surgeries done.
I had 16, 16 cancellations that third year for that, for that sky you can fair.
We had two, pretty much two weeks of wrestling.
Remember what you paid?
So paid shows paid daily paid shows, two weeks full of wrestling.
I had 16 cancellations.
Wow.
And I was like, I was, you've got to tell me brother.
Like I need your paid shows.
So I was paying people.
I mean, some granted some days it was like, I like, like, obviously he was not going to
pay everybody like, Hey, you get $1 million for you.
$1 million paying people their normal pays.
And um, this, cause obviously I'm, I'm doing the work here.
So I'm going to, I'm going to pay everybody the normal paydays, but it was like two weeks
straight wrestling.
And I still had this, I was still running school, the school.
I had plenty of students, but even the students I had literally with students included like
16 cancellations.
It was wild.
It was, it was just not a good scene.
So it got down to the last day and I'm so happy because I'd skated by with just enough
talent every day to have a show, one hour show.
That's all they wanted.
I had enough talent to make it to that last day.
That last day had even more cancellations that four more.
So I luckily it's the same goes always keep your gear bag in the car.
And my gear bag in the truck.
I wrestled four times, one singles that led to a tag on the first show on the last day
of the fair.
And then we did a show later that evening where I wrestled one time and then also about
a Royal or something like that.
So I wrestled four times and wrestled in months.
And I was like, why am I even doing this?
Like why am I going through this hassle to put on these shows?
Cause it's not for me.
I wasn't even wrestling.
I wasn't making a lot of money.
I was dumping it right back into the TV because we were back on our second run of IWTV at
that time.
So I don't even know.
I was like, why am I even doing this?
And then I just saw, I looked at the list to have a notebook.
I still have one.
I usually have a notebook, but I keep all my stuff in.
I just looked at my notebook, saw the cancellations and said, why the fuck am I even doing this?
And that's what made me want to sell it.
So you didn't, you didn't know exactly like why there wasn't like maybe like rumors saying
like Eric is Eric's a bad promoter or something like that.
That's why you can't.
Well, what I think it came down to a three, so a lot of shows every month.
So I think I was honestly, I was overworking people.
And also, I think people got a lot of egos.
Also there's the back end situation around this time.
Yeah.
You know, if I can't shake it.
Yeah.
I'm going to say is JP, if you're flipping around one more time, I'm removing you.
You can't.
Space broke me.
He's like, yep, he's not like, I know so many egos, man.
So many egos.
I can't believe it because some of these people don't wrestle anywhere.
They just they wrestled for me.
And I was just like, yeah, you're making me.
Yeah.
You know, people was like that.
Like, oh, I wouldn't do that.
It was worse back in the day.
Oh, no, I've never heard of it.
I've heard of it.
Dude, it was worse back in the day because we had the TV show.
So everybody thought because they're on TV that they had.
But I'm like, you realize I could take you off the TV, right?
Because I'm the goddamn guy that does the commentary, the editing, everything.
I'm the one that brings it to the TV station.
I'm the one that knows my Palmer and a bomber that runs the station.
Does he still run the station?
I don't know.
I knew, yes, he does.
And he didn't got along.
We would talk for like hours about wrestling and stupid shit.
But anyway, so that was my reason why I wanted to sounds like why I'm going to get out.
Why am I?
I literally had notebooks full of contacts, buildings, newspapers, radio stations, certain
contacts for certain fundraising groups.
I had so much crap.
Like I was like, I did all this stuff by myself.
I had some help at times.
Certain people would come in like a couple of times.
Sonny would jump back in, start investing in the shows and try to get back in.
Primer did one time he tried investing in shows with me and so forth.
Like we all try to help people try to show them.
They're just like, it's just so much work.
And sometimes it's not enough payoff.
And that's literally how I felt at the end of that third run of Sky, you can bear shows
like there's just not enough payoff for this.
And you got to think that to eat two weeks out of my life, like where I was literally
drive to Sky, do the show, drive back home, do it again.
And it just driving back home.
Well, yeah, I live in Maine.
There's no reason why I should be paying for hotel.
I just drive home to enjoy the fair.
I'm like, listen, I hate fairs now because of it.
I don't want to do another fairs.
I literally Larry, Larry Huntley did the Bangor Fair in years.
And obviously I live close to Bangor.
I'm one of the local guys in the area here, obviously.
So I end up doing the Bangor Fair show for him.
But I was just like afterwards, I was just like, I remember why I hate doing fair shows.
The first show there at the Bangor Fair was a dreary day, crappy, crappy turnout for the
crowd.
Second day was great.
That was there.
But like it was just a matter of this is the same reason why I'm doing these outdoor shows.
I hate days at fairs.
Yeah, I hate fair days.
Like you said, Eric, I hate it when you're like you get there and it's like so we had
one day at Scout Higgins.
We got there.
It was a million and seven degrees.
I'm not even sure why I hate it too.
I agree.
I opened up it poured down rain for 10 minutes and then went to that.
I went to one hundred eighty five million thousand degrees plus one hundred and fifty
percent humidity.
I was like, oh my God, we got to work in this.
It was so bad.
I may be O'Reilly members.
It was so bad at the scouting and fair with the IWB ring.
All birth I had a vinyl canvas and we keep what I had water for the boys.
But I'll say the water to spray on the ring.
It was so hot you could cook the egg on the vinyl canvas.
You can put it in and cook it.
I had literally to.
I took a bump at some point and I remember laying here to sizzling here.
Your backs sizzling like.
And I'm not getting enough for us.
Yeah.
So on top of that, talk about the torrential downpour.
Well, one day who was with me?
I think Aiden Andrews was in the Neil.
He was with me and we were there and we ended up coming to its raining.
And I'm like, OK, well, already in there when he rode in the ring truck with me.
So it's only a vehicle we had there at the time.
So I'm like, all right, well, we're there and it's raining.
We're waiting to see if it's going to stop and it's not.
So I asked the fair what they want to do.
They were just going to cancel it.
And we're not turning on the rides.
It's going to be a rough day.
It's supposed to rain all afternoon.
OK, cool.
We go to leave.
Well, if you all remember driving through that little tunnel.
You get to the other side.
It was flooded.
Yeah.
And I'm in the ring truck and me and Neil look at it like they want us to drive through
that.
We're up in the ring truck, which the rig, the the the the ring van was pretty high off
the ground.
If you remember, it's a four car line van is a four car line cargo van.
It was pretty good off the ground.
So I'm like, all right, I'm just going to gun it.
We're going to go for it.
First off, it's a tight squeeze in there for the cargo van.
OK, scary.
And it's flooded.
So we're driving like, OK, let's just I'm just going to gun it through and hope we don't
we'll be all right.
So we get down there like it can't be too bad.
We get in there.
It's up to the grill full on.
You hear the they were here that we hear the water rushing sound.
I'm like, I'm gunning it, Neil.
Hold on.
We're gunning it.
It's just tidal waves.
We're splitting the sea as we're driving through.
And I'm like, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God,
God.
And he's like gripping his seat like, oh, we're going to drown to death in a tunnel.
We're going to drown to death in a tunnel.
We get to the other side and this we just we hear the water just rushing out of the
vehicle.
And I just see steam coming up from the hood of my damn.
That's got to be steam.
I hope it's not smoke.
Please be steam.
So we get out and we were so stressed out.
I had to pull over to the side.
I got stopped.
I had like a crisis.
I stopped for a minute.
I'm like, well, let's see if the car's going to break down or rather break down right here.
It didn't break down.
It just was.
Finally, it stopped steaming.
And I'm like, OK, cool.
We're good.
That's fine.
We are like, oh, my God.
But it was true.
It was scary.
It didn't help to the entire time.
Well, Neil's gripping his seat.
I was literally singing the Jaws music.
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun,
dun, dun, dun, dun.
The entire time is like you're a fucking dick.
I'm like, yeah,
hey, could be worse.
We're going to break down the middle of the tunnel.
I can't get out the van because you couldn't open the doors all the way because that's
how tiny that tunnel was.
Yeah.
We're just going to drown in here again.
I think I've seen this movie.
It's like we can try to hold out in the back of the van for air.
Try breathing the back of the puddle.
Yeah.
So anyway, to finish.
So what led to that?
Me, me want to sell it.
So I put feelers out there through other promoters and people that had invested with me.
See if anybody wanted to buy out.
And everybody was shocked that I wanted to buy out.
And I said, well, I'm thinking about it.
Not really positive, but this is what I'm looking for.
And I asked for 10 grand to sell out everything.
Mind you, this is the IDB ring band.
Bertha both cameras, all the tripods, all the sound equipment, the nine years of hard
drives, all the belt bag with all the belts, all the extra belts and belt pieces, all the
tools, tools.
You don't ask me, I sold all those stuff to the, I sold it to the people that bought it,
which was Bob and he brought Sonny in, but it was originally in the sunny.
Randy has the hard drive.
They are password protected.
He doesn't know the password, but yeah, that's the shitty part.
You can't access nothing.
He's asked him to access like one or two of them because he did get some footage off of
them.
That's why if you look on the rain wrestling collection pages, like old item, you imagine
the honky tonk man and Barbie and stuff up there now.
But anyway, um, yeah, the belts, I obviously, I think here's, this is what I heard just
from down the line.
So I'll tell you everything I sold first and then I'll tell you where I think it all went.
So Bertha, the ring van, all the cameras and stuff for the cameras, tripods, extra stuff
like that.
Um, the equipment, all the extra cords, all the tools, a second set of ropes for the ring,
extra padding for the ring, all the belts, the belt bags, the entrance way, the lights
for the entrance way, the special entrance.
We only used in Brewer, the big metal one there.
Yeah.
The nice school one.
Yeah.
The walkway one.
That was cool.
They got that.
All the banners, logos, website, hard drives, they merchandise, they got everything.
And then they also got my book of contacts and buildings, everything.
They got everything.
The only thing they didn't get was my personal items.
Obviously that were mine that I took with me and the one, one email address.
They got the YouTube channel, the Facebook page, they had the website, they had everything.
The only thing they didn't get was one email and that's cause they had my personal like
information on it and I couldn't give it to them.
Cause I'm like, there's no way to, unless I switch this out to somebody else, there's
no way to do that without giving you, and then you have my personal information.
I don't think so Tim.
So I kept the one email address, which I still use for wrestling to this day, but
Bertha's EWA.
Well that's where I'm now I'm going to get into where everything went Bertha when IWU
finally folded, which like I said, I sold it to bomb sunny came in later.
I'll explain all that here at a minute, but to explain where everything went, there was
two rings that actually I had to be owned because they bought the little tiny, uh, the
tiny ring is like a toe out footer sandbox ring.
It's 12.
It was 12.
It's a kid's, it's a kid's or a, uh, the midget wrestling ring.
Yeah.
It was all with me.
That was fine.
It's not.
It's made for easy.
It's a ring ring or immediate wrestling ring respectively.
Um, they, anyway, they had, they bought that ring cause Bertha, they, they abused Bertha
Bertha.
I used to get the welding done from a guy that used to do welding on battleships in
the Navy.
So this thing like, yeah, that's going to have stress cracks and he'd weld it and fix
it up.
When I gave it to him, immaculate shape.
When I gave him the ring van, it had a brand new sticker on it, fully inspected.
Everything was done with it.
Finally I introduced mom to my mechanic cause he went to the night where my mechanic was
and he picked it up one day from my mechanic.
I paid to have it all fixed up and new sticker and everything.
So this way he knew he was getting everything fixed.
Everything was great.
Well the Bertha got sold originally when Sonny and bomb got done, Bertha got sold to Cameron
Matthews along with the trailer cause they destroyed the ring van.
It died after a year for being abused, even though I had it for nine years, right?
One year they killed it.
Well they, they got a trailer for it.
They sold the trailer and the ring then to Cameron Matthews.
I think also in the sound equipment, bomb kept the belts.
I think he still got them.
I don't know.
The smaller midget ring got sold to a company in Canada.
Don't know who Cameron Matthews set that up cause he knew somebody who wanted like a small
little training ring and he set up the deal, but bomb sold it.
So both the rings are gone.
Like I said, the sound equipment and I think some of the banners actually were in the ring
trailer when they sold it to Cameron Matthews.
Well, Cameron then sold that ring to EWA.
He wanted to get rid of it.
He's good at flipping stuff cause he knows so many people like I do.
He's good at getting rid of stuff, getting it out there.
You know what I mean?
Just this the midgety ring.
That's the midget ring.
Frank Yeager wins the, the, the triple champion or chip or whatever that is.
I think I was there in the crowd somewhere or I was running music.
I think I ended up running music.
The first match ever in this ring, the first ever match in that ring was me and Havoc from
Canada.
Yeah.
It's a tall dude.
There was a four way it was you, me, Dante, Dio and Frank Yeager and a four way in that
ring.
Yeah.
But the first ever match in that ring was me and Havoc and I didn't, me and Havoc together.
Like, I'm like, Oh my God, we did a Suplex and I remember I heard the ring bounce off
the ground.
Is that the reason you literally hit the wall?
Yeah.
It was insane.
It's a couple of years.
I remember you telling me, you tell me about that cause you had to do quarter to quarter,
but to be fair, Kat and I worked 12 by 12 not too long ago and it was not far.
I was going to say you definitely get your ring awareness like you do a test with a 12
by 12 ring.
You have to.
But if you bring in real small venues, this thing is fantastic.
I remember they did a real tiny venue in Skowhegan right by where the fair was.
But they fit perfectly in these real tiny venues.
You can go off the top rope, everything is nice.
It's not nice for guys like me and Havoc who are big dudes and we're having the first ever
match in the thing.
And they're like, be careful.
And I'm like, be careful.
I'm a foreigner pound dude.
And have you seen Havoc?
He's, he's, he's good size built now.
Heavyweight, but he tall.
What do you want?
We did a basic ass Suplex, a snap Suplex and his ankles hit the bottom rope.
Luckily he didn't bust them.
Oh yeah.
You couldn't do Suplex.
You got only your Suplexes quarter to quarter.
The ring bounced off the ground when we did the Suplex.
We thought we're going to, it was in Fairfield.
We thought we were going to break the tiles on the floor.
Yeah.
So imagine that ring inside of a venue like Fairfield and it's just like a little, it's
like a, we called it the Sandbox ring.
How many people are there?
Where everything went to circle back to the final deciding to sell it.
So I'd put the feelers out and add a list of stuff that you were going to get with it,
like a bill of sale, but like a list of what you're getting.
What's your tire kickers?
People are like, yeah, no, no one has exactly had 10 grand laying around.
Yeah.
Well, then I guess Sonny was just chatting up to Sonny and bomb used to work at a car
dealership together.
And Sonny was talking about it because he was one of the people like thinking about
it and was like, ah, no bomb was heavily into it.
He really wanted to buy it because he had a passion for it to be at the time.
Cause you know, he'd been there most of his career.
So he wanted to buy it.
So he went after one night of the show one day in Brewer.
We went over to gestures where we all went and we're all sitting there drinking, having
a good old time and he gestures.
I loved that place.
We all did a good old, we all missed the hallway.
So we started just, just your regular, just call it the hallway.
Anyway, bomb, uh, bomb put his pitch in.
He tried it low ball me.
And I said, dude, but this is a flat price.
This is not negotiable.
This is what you're getting.
And I showed them the paper.
Like I've written everything down.
You guys fair enough.
Okay.
I'm definitely interested.
Let me see what I can get together for finances.
Cause much like a car, he's like, would you take a monthly payment and a down payment?
I'm like, yeah.
I mean, he worked at a car dealership.
So you know how the thing works.
I made a deal.
I said, you give me a down payment.
I'll let you make payments every month at the end of the wrestling weekend.
So little to be making your money from the weekend and pay me if you needed to really.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah.
And I was, I was willing to do that.
If he had a substantial down payment, which he did, he gave me, uh, it was like two or
three grand upfront.
And then the rest he did over payments, 500 bucks a month.
And I had a three, three show three payment misdeal, just like with a car.
Like if you don't pay your car, if you don't pay a car payment for three months, they repo
your car.
Yeah.
I would repo the company if he didn't pay me back.
So he had three strikes.
What would you have done if that happened?
Like, cause you didn't.
Well, I remember, I remember Jason rumble going, Hey, Eric's going to get this thing
back in like three months.
Like he was, he was all about it.
He used to rib.
He was like, how many times has Bob missed a payment?
Killing Kowalski school for professional wrestling.
We'll get that back.
He's, I mean, it says he missed well, Bob only missed a missed one payment.
And I said, okay, that's one strike.
And that's after like, was what it was.
He gave me the down payment.
I think it was like, uh, this was home.
I could tell you, give me two seconds to disappear.
I have the blast event that ever.
I'm not telling you.
Hold on one second.
You're right back.
In time where after Eric had been fully paid off, that's when the entire everything quality
wise of the show went.
Wait, sorry, it was October.
The official sale went through, I think in October of 2016.
So cause the last show I promoted, I have the poster on the wall was January of 2017,
which was the anniversary weekend.
So I think it was October.
I announced it in September that I, the tentative owner would be here the next month because
we had already had everything in the works and then October, everybody would meet the
new owner October.
We finalized the paper.
Like we did at the end of September, end of October, finalize the paperwork, did the down
payment, did all that.
I brought them to the TV station so they could sign over the account from the TV station
to him, the whole nine had a meeting with Palmer so he can meet them, sign everything
over, move everything around.
I signed everything over and I even said I'd help book and do the street work and the TV
editing still for free for the rest of the year.
I agree to do all that stuff for free just to help with the transition.
So October, that said, technically when the sale went through, but I still help promote
the October, November, December, in January date of the next year, that January anniversary
show of 2017, which was a nine year anniversary show was the official last date I had any
involvement with IWD and I wasn't even financially involved with these shows.
So October and November were the last dates I was financially involved.
December in January, it was all bombed by himself funding it.
Like I didn't, I was still helping do the work and I had front money, but he paid me
it back just to get anything kosher so I could show him how everything works.
Like here's where you get your graphics from.
Here's who make Amber was making the poster.
So Amber makes the posters, danger kid Amber was making the posters.
This is who, where you order them from.
This is where you do this.
This is where the posters go.
Here's where you do this.
Who's who do that?
That here's who you meet over here at the TV station.
This is when this stuff needs to be dropped off at the TV station.
All that stuff.
And I got him through till till January of 2017 and then I said, literally as I'm sitting
there making the book, January's 2017, he was still asking me questions like, dude,
I've helped you October, November, December, and now January I'm done after this.
I'm just a wrestler now.
Like I'm doing this to be nice to have the transition.
I give you a four minutes of transition.
So anyway, and oddly enough, 2017, like it wasn't that bad of a year at all.
But actually no good.
It was, well, he got it at the best time because the best time in honestly, it's the scariest
time.
But the best time for main wrestling is winter because there's nothing to do.
Yeah.
But though indoors.
So the only scary part is if he hit a blizzard or something during a weekend, right?
Well January 2017 was the last show I was, I fit help book it, help promote it, do the
whole deal.
It was also one of the first anniversary weekends that there was no name on the show because
every anniversary weekend they used to bring in names.
I'm trying to remember what that was.
I was there for us.
That's when we did the tag thing where if one of us got pinned, someone lose, lost a
belt or something.
It was a me and I think Moxie versus ricker and I want to say limits.
I don't know.
Limits out.
The station wasn't formed yet.
At that point it was 27 days started like later 2017.
I don't know.
I just remember it was a tag match, I believe.
So and this was, uh, I was champion around the time when the trans the changeover had
happened when the sale had happened and I lost the belt and never got a rematch type
of deal.
And I, and then bomb was trying to pitch his way into, into the title pitcher.
I don't know if you remember that at all.
Yeah, I do.
So when he tried to do that, they fan started booing about it.
I remember even, uh, what's his, what was his wife's name there?
And they used to go to the shows all the time.
Jody.
I was yelling at him like you better not even try to, no one wants you to win the title,
John.
Like she used to yell at him about it.
Like people don't want to see you win the title.
She literally used to use his, his authority figure as a poll for being at shows to just
get away with being rude to everyone that she, that was like against her or was rude
to her.
And I was like, my husband owns the company and I was like, well,
Going back to those missed payments, mom only missed, uh, one payment and what happened
to happen and was he didn't have to pay the rest of the year.
Cause when we, we part of the deal was when we sold it, um, he gave me the down payment.
He, I turned everything over to him that, uh, I would have remaining balance for the
TV station.
He inherited the balance so that came off the top two.
So like there was a bunch of, I literally said, don't pay me anything this year.
We'll start payments in January of 2017 when everything's fully trans like over to him.
Right.
And that's why I was, that's why I kept helping him.
Cause I want to make sure he could make the payment.
Uh, January, he, he made the payment February.
He did not, or it's either January.
He didn't make the favorite payment in February.
He did, but one of the payments got paid to me by Jody.
I don't know what it was from him or by her.
I don't know, but I got the payment and I was like, okay, whatever.
I don't care.
Either together there.
They ended up getting married down the lines or whatever.
Couples are couples.
That's how the shit works.
I didn't care.
Well, then around the second time he couldn't have one month.
He couldn't afford to pay me for the second time.
And I said, that's two strikes, Bob.
He's like, I know.
Um, so going into the next, the, the month after that, we, it was, I was waiting in the
bar from a payment after the show with everybody else.
We're all drinking and jesters.
He goes, can I pay you on Monday?
And I said, as long as you pay me by Monday, yeah.
Monday to the latest.
I'll give you till Monday.
And he goes, okay.
And he said, he sent me a text that the payments that city side, you can pick it up.
This was on Monday.
I went in there.
There's a check from sunny.
And that's when sunny started buying in.
And then later they also brought in hobo hobo Joe Joseph primer.
Yep.
He was the only payments.
If he had missed a third one, I would have got the shit back right off the bat.
What was the book?
Yeah.
So if, if, if mom had missed one more payment, he would have reverted back and he literally
just bought the damn thing.
So he missed a payment.
Jody covered one and he missed another payment.
And then bomb covered it.
And then since then it was three people involved because the bomb and sunny were running it.
And then they brought Joe and it was a three way split between the three of them.
They were paying me every month.
Plus they drew enough to pay.
They just had to stop booking WrestleMania.
I mean, that's why the wrestling I'll give it to them.
The wrestling when they first took over was still great because they had a huge roster,
huge roster.
Yeah.
And it was, they had some depth.
They also had squashed some beef and got all of MSP back in full time doing stuff.
They years, but they, they managed to make it work.
And they never missed a payment after that.
They paid me out.
I have no problem with any of them.
They made all the payments.
They paid me off completely.
The only thing I ever had a qual a qualm was is I had a deal.
It wasn't on paper, but I had it.
I should have put it on the paper when I sold it.
I had a deal with John.
I had to work all.
I had to keep my spot and still work the shows.
That's just all I wanted to do.
You made a point about that at some point during the meeting, like in general, because
it like just a point where you were like, you were like barely being used, but like
they wanted me to Russell, all the young kids.
And I said, I'm done doing that guy.
I'm like, I'm like, I've been doing it long enough.
Have someone else do it.
And I wasn't against the grain, but I'd be like, what do you want me to do?
That's stupid.
Like, like if it was something stupid, I'm like, why would I do that?
Like I remember one time I wrestled, I think Tommy Lane was the main event man.
I beat Tommy Lane up as the main event man because they didn't have anything on Mike.
So you have stuff for roadblock.
So you don't have stuff for me.
God.
So at that one point I knew I knew the writing was on the wall.
I think was sadly around the time.
Damien Maine had passed away and I was the one that found out because like one of his
girlfriends or one of his lady friends had posted it and I saw it and I reached out to
the person because the main was my original announcer for many a year.
So I reached out to the person.
They told me what happened.
And then I went on and told Sonny and bomb and hobo about it.
And they decided to do a tournament all around the time of the tournament.
And like, remember, they got rid of the Albiondy tournament and did that for D main, which
made sense with a lot of people at the time didn't know who Albiondy was anymore.
We did because we've been around it for a bit.
They did.
So anyway, they changed the demand.
Damien Maine Memorial Tournament.
And around that time, they had me go to meet them at the bowling alley in Newport.
So I go to that bowling alley in Newport and we had to sit down meeting and they didn't
want like Sonny was about having me there.
He was and he was trying to be like the mediator in the situation.
But from my understanding, bomb and hobo didn't want me there.
That shows anymore.
And I said, well, I have an agreement with John and a set play and then I'm going to
be on the shows and all this stuff.
But if you don't want me there, you don't want me there.
And John was playing it up like I didn't have this agreement.
I'm like, oh, I see how this is cool.
Well, you know, I think it's funny you guys are doing a D main tournament.
You wouldn't even know he passed away if I hadn't told you because you guys don't really
I was getting pissed at the point.
I was like, you don't think you guys really give a shit like you gave a shit.
You would have done the work to find out about it so you could pay tribute to him.
Like when someone passed away, I tried to find out everything about it so I know.
So I can inform the people that give a shit about the person, you know, especially in
the wrestling world.
We're all kind of a community.
I found out so I could tell everybody because I told the locker room page when I found out
I posted in the locker room page.
I had to be at a locker room page posted in the fan page.
I was trying to let the fans know what the boys know.
I let everybody know he passed away.
So we all player their respects, you know.
And so they made an agreement.
Hey, we'll let you be in the tournament and finish the weekend out.
I got the Russell Shory and Brewer because we had had a story going and I said, well,
let me put Shory on the way over on the way out because he put me over.
I didn't let me put him over and they all agreed to it.
We're cool with it.
And in harm, no foul.
I did the turn the tournament I lost in the first round.
Shocker because obviously they weren't going to keep me around when we go on the second
round.
Right.
And then the Brewer show, it's being Shory Shory takes me aside.
I love Derek to death.
He's awesome.
He's like, hey, man, they want me to squash you, but I'm not doing that.
Like they want me to do.
They want you to squash.
I'm like, yeah.
He's like, well, first off, you're a four and a pound dude.
How the fuck am I going to squash you?
Take it off.
I like you.
We're both we're friends.
I'm not going to do that to you.
My cool.
And I later found out they also had asked him to shoot on me.
He flat out refused.
He's like, are you fucking retarded?
Are you dumb?
What's your problem?
Like, I'm not going to do that.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I'm not going to shoot on Eric.
You guys are ridiculous.
That's what I heard.
And when I went to go confront them later after me and Shory went out there, had a great
match, got him over clean.
Got my pay and my payment, I confronted them about it and they flat out denied it.
But Shory told me, yeah, they want to meet him to shoot on me.
He flat out said to their face, are you guys dumb?
Are you retarded?
I don't like to use the R word retarded, but that's what he said back then during that
time frame.
That was the thing.
Like, are you guys dumb?
You want me to shoot?
A lot of things said back then that shouldn't have been said.
Different time, different wording.
That's literally what he's like.
Are you kidding me?
You want me to shoot?
You guys mental?
Like, no, because Sherry, Sherry did MMA.
Right.
Which is also like say that they wouldn't have told anybody else that didn't have his
background to do that to you.
Yeah.
And then, but sure.
He also knew I used to amateur wrestle.
I'm a born a pound man.
Like what?
Yeah, they're not.
I'm sorry.
I just care to fight.
Sorry.
Because I've seen him throw hands at New England fights plenty of times.
Man, scary and he knows how to fight.
But he respected me enough to tell me that.
So I pay if he's listening.
I appreciate you there.
Secondly, I don't think he would lie to me about that.
So the fact that they asked him to shoot on me and he didn't do it.
Sure.
Forever get brownie points, in my opinion.
The fact that they then they didn't denied it when they paid me my wrestling pay and
my pay pay for the for the ship of the company.
I thought that was funny.
I was like, I see how this is.
And the shady ship began.
So you must have been not really like upset when I finally died.
I probably would just like, yeah, fuck him.
Good.
No, because at that point it was collective.
Something had happened.
Where?
I don't know what happened.
But I remember they were hurting for talent at one point when I was first there, they
had a plethora of people and at one point they were hurting and people were mad pissed
because first off, I was wrestling for Let's Wrestle or, you know, in in Orono at the time.
Yeah.
And I was hot fired time.
Me and Brandy, you know, eventually did the stigma bit.
We were we're over like we were getting a good push and we were over and I'm the local
guy and their crowds are dropping along with their talent.
But Orono shows are packed.
So I remember getting a message from bombs and he wanted to talk.
So he met a city side of gestures and talked about bringing him talked about bringing me
back.
And I said, well, then we had an agreement and you totally lied to Sonny and Pobo about
it.
He's like, I did.
And I apologize, but we can't afford to ask what you were paying for.
I'm like, well, you get what you pay for, man.
If you want to do respect, they were putting a lot of young guys on the shows that probably
wouldn't have been on there like certain handsome Mainers at the time.
And I love Raff Raff.
I actually had a great match Raff out of the younger guy.
He got it.
He picked it up quick.
And so he was good.
But there's you know, they had Lee doing what Storm Eagle or something.
They had a bunch of young guys that were not ready to be wrestlers, but were ready.
Like they were they were almost there, but they needed more time.
You had like another because they didn't have to pay.
Yeah, no.
And they had lost a bunch of talent.
And I even helped them get talent.
I remember I got I got them Dante, Dio and a few other people to come up and work for
him.
Yeah, I got a couple of people to go up and work for him because they were looking for
people.
But I mean, Bomb buried the hatchet.
He brought me back and I gave him a super discounted rate to come in and start working
the shows again.
And we had we buried the hatchet.
I even gave them because they didn't buy the cage, the steel cage that Larry owns.
That was mine.
I gave it to bomb because I was clearing out a storage unit and I sold Crown of Maine,
my other ring.
I called it my TV ring.
It was the nice ring that I mean owns as two sets of posts adjustable.
That's what does my does my TV ring for many years.
It stayed right out back in city, city side while the while brother stayed in the ring
truck.
This way I could have one there and have one on the road.
You know what I mean?
But I sold that the crown and I had all I had in my storage unit was this cage.
And I said, Bomb, if you can come get this thing, you can have it.
I think that's what started the burying of the hatchet.
He took the cage.
They use it a couple of times.
And then they flipped it and sold it to Larry.
So.
But we made amends.
We're all cool.
I have no heat with any of these guys.
This is all past stuff.
That's why I don't mind talking about it.
They get mad about it.
It's passed up.
They know it happened.
So it was years ago.
I wasn't I wasn't mad when it closed.
I was mad when people like we were talking about when people come out to me and we're
like, oh, we missed when you ran out of you want to go, you know, go fuck yourself because
a lot of the boys when this is the boys of the fans, the boys tell me all the time they
miss it when I ran.
I'm like, no, you don't know what you got till it's gone.
So a lot of them were egotistical assholes.
They were like, I don't want to do this.
I want to do that.
Mike, you don't work anywhere.
Sounds like a W right now.
You don't.
You don't work anywhere.
How are you to tell me you're not going to do this?
Not to do that.
I remember a match in this is in the past.
So if somebody gets but over it, they can get over it.
And we're in a meeting.
We had a meeting.
It was supposed to be Scotty Wilde versus Johnny Miyagi, Johnny Torres versus Shane
Marvel versus Silent Graves.
What year?
This was a while ago.
Long time ago.
It's me booking.
Shane was gone before I started the day.
He came and liked a couple of times because he's got an attitude, but we're cool.
Me and him are cool now, too.
He actually apologized later on for a lot of the shit he put me through.
And thank me for helping build him to the rest of that is today type shit.
And I said, cool, you know, I don't hold grudges anymore.
I'm too old for that shit.
But anyway, to get to the point of the story, it's one of the things I hated.
Silent Graves was super over at this time.
It was his entrance, his fucking music.
Everything was hitting.
And yeah, he was green, but he was super over.
And I was like, I want to meet Marvel with the champion, I think.
He had beaten Justin Credible.
And he was running with the title.
And I said, the next Ida B show in Brewer, half these guys were going to be there because
they were going to be doing a seminar, Ultimo Dragon in like Jersey or something.
And I said, that do it like how often you learn from Ultimo Dragon.
Yeah.
I need the title to be here.
So this is what I want to do.
Graves was over.
I wanted Graves to go over and I said it in the meeting.
And they all all of them refused separate wild wild was very neutral, quiet.
He just waited and waited until everybody was on there.
And then like half the locker room couldn't believe that they were like, we're not doing
this.
We're not doing that.
And I want to go.
You don't wrestle anywhere, guys.
So I ended up I ended up taking them all to the side.
Wild still quiet.
He stayed out of the whole argument.
He was there to wrestle.
That's what he always told me.
I'm here to wrestle.
And that's why I love Scott Wild.
That's why he got a title run.
And Ida B. But Marv will refuse to put anybody over until him and Torres talked and he agreed
to put Torres over and Torres agreed to not go to the seminar and would be at Ida B the
next month.
That's fine.
I'm happy we met in the middle and didn't do anything we wanted to do, which is what
I want to graves over.
So Torres went over.
Marv got all pissy, refused to come back.
Eventually he did because he realized he wasn't getting worked anywhere.
But they all do.
Everybody always came back because they realized we weren't getting any work.
I didn't even want to be thinking what I never left.
I was one of the very few that never left.
Back to my point though, who would you work for even if you try to leave?
Well, I mean, it was numerous places, but didn't answer my question.
Exactly.
I was working for GIW.
I was working for GIW over in the Dome.
Who else?
Who else would you work for?
There is no one else to work for.
Ida B was the only one.
Unless you work for Randy.
That's totally another story.
Right.
My point being was I already knew about having to play the mediator between people's egos,
piss me off.
But that's that's the shit that used to piss me.
Then that whole scenario like Graves went over.
Nope, I had to fucking mediate and play, play the fiddle for this situation was stupid.
I don't see that happening now.
No, I will not do it.
Period.
But that's one of the things I hated.
And that's the stuff later.
And then the boys would tell me, I miss you when you ran out.
Like, you don't know what you got to is gone.
Where were you when you 16 of you 20 of you cancel on me during the third season of the
Sky Hagan Fair?
Right.
Me I'm dumping my hard earned money into TV shows to promote you guys and you just say,
I'm good.
I don't want to be here.
Find me somewhere else.
And guess what?
They all they all tried.
But didn't work out too well.
No, it didn't.
Well, yeah, so I'm going to be there for the last run.
I w e I did I want it to be?
Was I happy when it closed?
No, it was my baby.
I was actually at a point.
Yeah, me and actually Mike Turner were talking about this.
That one of the last shows there was I think a four way for the title was me, Luke Robinson.
It was the Black Rose and Jimmy Limits, right?
Am I saying that right?
I remember that match.
Yeah.
It was a very good match.
The following show I was supposed to think Russell Luke Robinson in a singles match
for the title.
Mind you, Robinson just once.
Obviously he was winning and I had no problem put him over.
I mean, Robinson of great chemistry.
We always used to fuck around back in the NWH days in the ring before shows.
He went practicing spots and shit.
So and we he did a spy.
I think in that match where he gave me a Death Valley driver, I did the spot out of the corner
where I got stuck on the top and he catches me and hooks me for Death Valley driver.
And we had good chemistry.
So I was looking forward to that match.
If anything, I was looking forward to the next IDB show that got canceled because of
COVID.
So it wasn't just COVID.
There was also a bunch of other shit.
Yeah.
Because the this the shit being is about the there was the cancel culture came out with
all the the movements.
There's two different movements that came out.
Man, that all blends together.
I forget.
I forgot it happened during like COVID.
It was just over time.
It was just coincidence that COVID happened at the same time.
If COVID didn't happen and it still went the same way, I feel like we'd still be in the
same situation.
We are.
Yeah.
I mean, there's no kitty.
Yeah.
So all that should happen.
And I don't blame them at that point for not wondering on IDB anymore.
Like their name was in the crapper in all because of people that worked for them.
And honestly, you can't control what people do.
But if you knew about it.
Yeah, you can.
So I was a big person on calling out people for their bullshit.
I will not put these names out there.
But I remember a time when two people who were together and another couple that was
together were all cheating on each other with other persons partners.
And I had to bring them out back.
Have the conversation of stop shitting where you eat, or all of you are gone.
So be with who you want to be with and get on with your lives or you're all gone.
Guess what?
They chose and we were back to being normal.
I was a big proponent of getting people out of there that cause problems.
I saw a bunch of questions have been popping up here.
What have stuff that people have been asking so I can try to answer some of the leather
heads?
Oh, so I gave up with the leather heads.
I love it.
I'm a streamer.
Oh, I found a streamer at Super Lucha Explosiva as a company down in Southern Maine who would
run Jimmy the Greeks.
I want a Super Lucha Explosiva.
Okay, say that three times fast.
Yeah.
There are a bunch of guys that were partially trained trying to run a wrestling company
and they ran into me at Chikara at the Shrive Center.
And when I was working on all the Chicago shows that were coming to New England, they
used to go to Chikara Locks.
You should love that type of wrestling.
So they got a hold of me through Facebook.
Had me come down to work for him.
Well Ace was there.
He was doing BATUKA.
Think of Umaga, but Ace doing it.
Eventually, he stopped being a BATUKA and was doing Ace Romero and he would come out
wearing like almost like an Ace's and 8's stuff from when TNA did Ace's and 8's angle.
I was like, that's kind of cool.
I know a guy that dresses like that and it was roadblock.
That's how he really would dress because he's a biker.
He had the best.
And I said, I should probably do something with that.
Because Ace wanted to come up and work at IW shows because he was trained with Team
3D school.
And he wanted to actually get work work.
So I was like, yeah, you can get up here.
I'll put you to work.
So he'd come up, he'd even train with us a few times.
I remember O'Reilly, remember that?
He was starting to get his rust off because he only worked Super Lucha shows.
I was training Ace at one point while I was training up two shows too.
Yeah, Ace would come up and he'd train and work out because he was only doing those shows.
Which in turn also because he did my shows, he got in with New England Pro Wrestling Academy
too a couple different times.
He'd go down there and train too.
But anyway, he was training and he wanted to do the biker gimmick.
So he had that's what he had for stuff.
He didn't really have any gear gear at the time, because he'd only had the batuka stuff,
which he had batuka gear.
He was like a pair of tights and he wear barefoot.
But anyway, he he was doing the biker thing.
And I said, huh, I saw a roadblock standing there and I said, here we go.
Please pay for YouTube.
They look like a biker.
I'm going to match it doesn't matter who it is.
You want a match doesn't matter how many teams are walking down and walking out with the
straps.
All right, this Sunday night, you guys have another big challenge.
Another big match.
You didn't play my favorite promo.
Damn it.
What?
Eric Atlas, WB Holloway, Tony Atlas.
You gotta play you gotta play the best promo with them.
Oh yeah, that is it.
I got it.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
It's upside down.
home
And he was just getting, like I said, to use the wrestling all the time again,
because he's wrestling on my to be days, which was like four to six shows a month.
So I I had put them together because, hey, you see the outfits,
they look like they should be a tag.
They look like they are together.
They look like a bunch of bikers.
So I gave them I think I gave them Beavis to start off
and I called them the Leatherheads because Leatherhead,
I used to be a teenage mutant Ninja Turtles kid.
And one of the characters from Ninja Turtles is Leatherhead.
And I see Andy in the back going, yeah, Dylan, yeah,
Timber Turtles, Leatherheads, as I can call them, the Leatherheads,
which the fans then started chanting Leather Daddies at them.
My favorite leather daddies.
Anyway, they were actually a really great tag team
and they were tagging all over Maine at one point.
And then until and then eventually Ace was
surpassing Roadblock.
And so I started giving him his own singles push
and broke him off from Roadblock.
Also, him and Roadblock weren't getting along.
I think at one point, Ace lived with Roadblock.
And it was just not.
First night training with you
first ever show.
This was like June or July 2014.
I had watched them have the worst, like
yelling at argument in the backside of city side,
like in the parking lot.
And that was like the night that he's like moved out
and went back home to Saco was like that.
Mom lives down that way.
So like he moved up here to be closer to the wrestling because
we were running four to six shows.
Let's say we're doing let's say we're doing Fairfield Brewer.
And then let's say we do it like an island falls, Palmyra,
because we had the Palmyra Community Center back then.
So like if that's they're all up here.
Sock was the way away.
So he was living up here, living out with Roadblock.
And they, you know, and they were hitting and they were great for a while.
And then they weren't getting along.
And so I said, I'm just going to break you off from them.
And I gave him his own singles push because he was putting the work in.
He was training with me, but he would also go down and train
in the wrestling academy and you would travel graves.
His graves would go down back and forth anyway.
Graves also lives in Southern Maine.
So like when they need to travel, they would just he would just pick.
Graves would just pick them up.
And now so the latter heads
ended up being moved around because when Ace broke off, I put Rugged Rick
because Rugger Rick used to do like a same idea.
But he come out with his big chain, would throw it around his head like this.
The big biker chain is swinging around like a helicopter.
And I like, cool, you're going to do that spot.
You're going to be the new leatherhead.
Now, I've made the new leatherheads because
Beavis wasn't around either at one point he left.
I made Sarah wear the leather
diamond matrix outfit and they were the leatherheads.
She had a full body on their outfit.
She kind of had to bring with it.
About that. I was so.
He's like, I'm bringing back memories for O'Reilly over here.
Calling anything the new something, though, is usually like the death
knell for it automatically.
They were still I transferred the heat because they were always heels.
They were never baby faces.
So when when I peeled one off,
which was ace to do his own singles run, I turned him baby
and put Rugged Rick in to be the heel.
We even did a tag.
It was me and Ace versus the new leatherhead.
So like we transferred heat
from one person to another is what I did.
And it worked. And that's what I needed.
And they were still calling them leather daddies.
And then I put Sarah with them as a heater, too,
because she had been heel at the time against me.
So we're putting all the heat in one spot.
We took it essentially.
We had chicken shit. We made chicken salad.
We had some but she had fallen apart.
We just squished it all together and made some decent out of it.
And that's good heat for them.
They're still getting leather daddy chance.
It worked anyway.
They did his own thing.
After that, we all know what happened from there.
Skyrocketed.
Kevin says living with Roboc was his living nightmare.
That's what I said, too. That's why he's moved up.
So I was going to say that the last word
was the horror stories from Kevin's. I totally, I totally agree.
I don't know how he had any brain cells left.
You live with them.
So what was there any other questions that people are asking?
So I don't feel like I'm skipping them. I'm trying to we just think.
No.
You basically answered my like,
because that's the main reason why I didn't like bring it up,
because I didn't know how you feel talking about like the death of the company
that you built up.
You know, I mean, I actually when I was working at Madcats,
bartending there, I tried real hard
for them to get to a wrestling show out back there.
When I worked there, I tried.
I know I know O'Reilly over here tried to, but I was working there
and I tried to do a 50 50 split on a show with them.
That's how hard I tried to let them split in and everything.
And they thought about it.
And I get it.
They put a lot of money in that place and they just didn't want to risk it.
When Kat was still when they were still building, they were like still in production.
That they were building.
They didn't even touch the back room yet.
That's when I was having a discussion with her.
And she's had it in her mind as a possibility.
And then I think just the idea of revamping the entire room
and redoing it kind of was a better idea.
It was there.
It was never due to in the back room because I was working there.
And Steve, which is Kat's husband, showed me there was layers upon layers
upon layers of tiles on that floor.
There was like three or four layers of tiles.
It was a lot.
It was gross.
Somebody had climbed in in there.
They stuck in through the back door and they hid in the banding system.
Yeah, thanks.
So I was like, wow.
Um, the plumbing was so old in that back bathroom that the urinal,
the urinal pipe was busted and it was just going to the wall.
I tried to avoid using that bathroom while we were active at IWV
because it was just like it was like a torture chamber of a bathroom. Yeah.
So Bell to Bell Productions, who we who we know who you are.
What's it all about?
Jive and Jimmy.
Everybody likes having me.
I hate doing it now, but
it's because I think we talked about the Jive and Jim.
The reason why I stopped doing it on the show.
But honestly, though, I wish I kind of stuck with it.
I should have adapted with it because you can have three years.
I was driving Jimmy and so people like remember it to this day.
That's how memorable it was.
And I'm like, I should have just fucking kept on it
because maybe I would have got some out of it because it didn't work out
for someone else who did the same similar gimmick.
It might have worked out for me.
You never know. Never say never in wrestling.
So like a certain dinosaur based dancing person.
Yeah. We talked about it last episode.
You know, there could always be a possibility that, you know, you got
you get knocked on your head, get knocked out and bring back driving Jimmy.
Although he's not Johnny Primer.
What he said.
I love private.
We'll see. I know people keep asking me.
First off, I have some of the stuff to still do it.
I mean, I kept my chip on my gear back in the day
when I was doing driving, Jimmy, all my gear was made by Adrian Street
when he was still around.
Oh, damn. So yeah.
Yeah. He used to sell tights on eBay at a store and stuff.
And I reached out and it used to be him and his wife who used to make these by hand.
He's out of Adrian Street and he made my gear.
And so I kept ordering gear for the throttle, like a lip not leopard
ribbler, the type you would love to probably cat because he used to do tiger
stripe stuff. He would. Oh, yeah, I would love it.
Yeah. I have to show you my old Chicago tights.
I still got them.
They're ones that the gear specifically saved for like high end shows.
I had specific gear for them.
And I saw the fights.
He's like, I want them now.
It's like, what?
How much you want for them?
I don't know. Yeah.
He's probably not too.
You see them like they have tassels and tiger stripe on them.
Oh, I want them more.
He's just like, I just he just started.
I didn't think this was.
Dude, I had the I had the very flamboyant gear back in the day.
I'll tell you.
So I'm going to pick up, I'm going to pick up my tag team partners.
At least you have actual gear for once.
I want to also pick on my tag team partner.
How many times have I told you to fucking get some gear
written up and let's fucking get some gear out of gear designed?
I just don't have the money to be here that I had left.
If I was to sell it to the Jive and Jimmy here, it's a purple
and neon like greenish yellow color.
What tiger threat?
Oh, in tassels.
I did some purple gear designed.
Actually, I don't know.
You might be able to actually bring it up.
Hold on.
It might be on the Keep Wrestling Alive YouTube channel.
The match from Chicago, I snuck it up there.
The Rasslin are is W R.A.S.S.L.I.N.
Like last time we had a live
area in the channel, which used to be attached to the fan, the page on on Facebook.
But the match might be up there for me from Chicago with those tights on.
They might fit me.
They might.
He's almost like he's like, I hope they fit me.
I mind you. I just told you where I got from right.
Adrian Street made them so.
Eric's going to be like a car repair
of fucking tights that I like the ward every time I wrestle with your car.
I wore those. So like.
Yeah, you better be cheap.
You better get a second mortgage.
I'm just saying.
He's looking at it.
Arise looking right. You find it.
I was. Yeah.
Telling your children.
Yeah, no.
And you've been also in just in a basic search,
driving Jimmy and Anthony Stone and my pop up because he's in the match.
He's the one who won.
I was first.
You're upset.
He's looking nice. I must find it.
He looks so he's like, I remember these.
OK. Yeah.
Well, you guys used to want to watch that shit.
You used to come to my apartment and watch them on a watch on my car.
I remember. Oh, God.
The quality of those are.
Oh, there it is.
I think you guys can see this stuff.
I can't see it. So
I'm going to have to fast forward to my entrance, but you might see it.
I actually have this one.
It's Cobalt, Cameron Matthews, Javin, Jimmy and Anthony Stone.
Yeah. Go back to my end.
Yeah. I'm like one of the first entrance.
And I do my strut, my Jive and Jimmy strut.
Oh, Luke, they'll give you the best view of my year.
Right there. Yep.
I might even have the best to match it.
So if you want to steal the best,
I don't think you can drive in Jimmy to your cat.
Young Lions Cup highlights, damn.
I don't think I'd be able to rock that shit either.
Look at those pants.
Look at those exotic pants. Tiger straight with neon.
I'm not going to lie. Those are pretty dope.
Did you see something like that?
I had them borrow them because he was trying that you want to try out a gimmick
and didn't want to buy gear.
You want to try it out to see if it's something you want to run with.
So I let him run with them.
I'll borrow them to use it.
I have pictures from that show is one of my first Let's Wrestle shows.
Yeah, he I'll borrow.
Yeah, where he dyed his hair blonde.
Actually, yeah.
Is that really for the ring?
No. Oh.
Actually, a young Randy Carver's in the audience with his friends watching this show.
Oh, geez. Oh, there's friggin' Rod Robbie.
Yeah, there's a lot. It was a lot of people there.
Anyway, yeah, that's what the tights look like.
I still got them somewhere.
Where's this building?
This is a stride center.
Pretty top tight.
Yeah, this is Portland, right?
Yes, the stride center in Portland.
Shakara got the building because of Rob Ellis.
Robbie Ellis got an in and he got the building for them.
Does this building else used to work for Chicago?
This is when Robbie Ellis had to stop wrestling.
Now this is he was back.
Watch this spot right here. Watch.
We.
Me and Matthews have mad good chemistry.
Here comes cold.
Still around.
Like I thought Coldwell was going to win this,
but it ended up being Anthony Stone randomly.
I don't know how that happened.
And they had if you fast with me and me and Karen Matthews
like the first one's eliminated, which was really bad
because it killed the crowd afterwards.
They go, you eliminate the two local guys first.
Oh, I also do a dive off the second to the floor,
I think, in this match.
Gross.
What's called just Cobalt over sells it like a mofo.
I got to say, because you guys give me shit about, you know, speaking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's built to bell promotions, not productions, Mr.
Nicks.
I don't care.
You just titty slapped you.
Oh, I gave Mongolian.
See, Anthony Stone won this randomly.
He's so small.
Jive and Jimmy coming back 2025.
Where's your development motions?
Try to work me to do that now.
They're like, how much are you going to cost for you to do this?
Oh, does he kick them in face?
That was gross.
We all end up doing dives here at one point.
And you're going to want you all to see that spot.
That's pretty cool.
What year was this?
Could not tell you.
Oh, you can't remember the year.
It might be if you go on my Facebook, you might be able to find it in the images.
Hold on. It was just there was a match graphic that they made.
Nice. We all had to share it.
They sent it to us to share.
Oh, this is cool. They call this the leapfrog spot.
We that was the only
pad spots because we call it the lily pads, but
that was really cool.
This match is posted four years ago, but it's probably a way.
No, it's way older than that.
I got the footage.
I got the footage and they said I could post it
because it was so far afterward.
Came in matters that came in that Luke's promo for it.
Easier to say it that way. It was from 12 years ago.
Like I said, there might be a match graphic on my
on Facebook page somewhere in the images.
I would love it would be forever.
Oh, this is gross.
Oh, you probably watch this spot right here.
This is where we get close to the dive.
Watch. He eats it.
He almost broke his leg. I was scared for a minute
because he wasn't supposed to follow the floor.
He was supposed to land.
So I'm like, are you OK?
You didn't see me do that.
I'm like, are you OK?
And then I was like, fuck him.
So he's talking to me, but also biting me at this time.
If you want to fast forward a little bit, we'll go to the dive spots here
in a minute. I just got a match as McDaniels versus Doug Weiser
and Jive and Jimmy.
You're obviously Eric Johnson's match, but it says
like you're wearing totally Eric Johnson gear.
Here's the dive spots.
One.
Oh, my God.
His legs. I thought he broke his legs when he did that.
I'm watching over like nobody die.
Everybody starts doing dives.
The only one I think that didn't was, I think, stoned into a dive
because he's not a person that does dives.
I hate when you're the last person in a waterfall spot.
You see the first person.
He said he didn't do dives.
So this is how I cut. I remember I remember talking about, you know, do dives.
They know I'll cut you off with this.
Like Larry.
And I was like, oh, cool, I'll do a dive.
Fuck it. There you go.
No, it's 2012. Yeah.
Thank you, Kevin. Thank you, Kevin.
He's 2012. I was still living in Massachusetts.
Fuck, I'm still married.
So I have to just dive.
Pay attention to watch Cobalt sell this.
I was trying not to laugh on the floor
after he does the sell job after the dive spot.
He doesn't take a dive, but he lets you take
it. He's already.
Oh, I think we'll sell it because that's just great.
Oh, God, this is a buildup, though.
This is terrifying.
Yeah. Well, the super luge, you guys, I was talking about the super luge
of explosiva that was there.
They were in the attendance and they talked to me at intermission
at this show to book me for their show.
This is the reaction from the announcers to.
Oh, the fan is getting his ass kicked.
The next time I take a dive, I'm selling like that.
Oh, it's about time to get movement. That makes sense.
So anyway, we wrap that up.
Come back in. So yeah, it was.
Oh, those are the gear.
So if you want to take a look at them.
And I said that you have to fit my fat ass.
I don't I don't want to hear the price.
It's probably way too high that I want to pay for.
You know, it will be.
I'm going to go with the day just because I know you need legit gear.
And those came from Adrian Street.
So you can get much more legit than that.
The only thing is that Nix would have to match me.
He's got a problem. Green. That's easy.
He's got both. He can actually watch both.
He can wear one of each.
Yeah. I'll think about that.
Green pants. You can change gear mid match.
To be fair, I do have a new
I do have a new set that I got myself for Christmas on the way.
I get a new set of single stuff.
I figured the next set of tag stuff would get together.
So yeah, I'll think about it.
I don't want to spend the money.
I don't know how.
Only there offering I know it's the only I don't want to hear.
I don't want to hear the price.
I know it's going to be so.
Hey, Eric, do you want a Red Bull cooler?
No, this is mine. I just got this.
That's here. That's your new gear right there.
Just give them mine.
No, I want a Red Bull cooler.
That's way more people call me, Carney.
You're trying to sell me his Red Bull.
I don't know.
My car is over there.
He'll leave everything in it.
I don't see a Red Bull in that cooler.
No, there isn't.
I don't know.
That hasn't been around.
Twist it is the twist it is the top level.
I can see from here.
Yeah, I can't remember.
Coke, Dr.
Pepper. I got some water.
Water.
Gatorade.
He's reminded me of alcohol.
Yes, it's never getting touched in that cooler.
That's why it's still full and everything else is almost empty.
So you're telling me like you're afraid to ask.
If you have afraid to ask questions,
you are welcome to ask them.
So I know you said you had that one and I said, yeah,
that was the biggest one because I didn't want to.
And that was the one where I how I felt after I sold it.
Was that what the question was?
Yeah, it's like after you sold it and then found out that it was
that it was going under basically.
So I remember that it was frustrating for me to hear when people like
mostly the boys would be like, dude, like what?
We really wish you hadn't sold it.
I'm like, you guys have no idea the shit I went through in my life.
My.
I felt about my money is no.
Money is no object.
Bring back to that.
You know, you're talking to 500 bucks.
That's not as bad as that.
That's not a bad price.
I would probably I would probably go around.
But anyway, to get back on task, thanks to Bell to Bell Promotions.
It was frustrating for me to hear
when people were getting like, oh, we missed when you ran it and all this stuff.
Because I was like, yeah, I don't know what I went through, man.
That thing ruined my and I honestly like
wrestling ruined probably my marriage.
Many of my my relationship I was with, I was married for six years or so.
I was with Sarah D'Erico for three years or so.
Like wrestling kind of ruins that shit, ruins your life when you're
especially about over time.
I was running I was running four to six shows a month sometimes, if not more.
And it ruined my life.
Also, people are sneaky in wrestling like I can remember.
I'd be sitting on Sarah's couch and her head would be on my lap
and I'd be just running my hands through her hair and her phone would go off.
And it'd be somebody hitting her up like in her DMS, and she would show me
and to the boys who did that, I know who you are.
She showed me all the messages while she's head is on my lap, watching TV,
cutting her head like this and her phone would go off and they would show me the shit
and I would call them out of it.
It shows I would call them out in person.
There are some names now.
Is this the past now?
See, you showed me everything.
She didn't even show a certain name that I brought up to the show.
I bring a certain name up.
Twice a year because you have family up here and I bring them up early.
So I spend time with family.
On my dime, I'd fly them up
and in the hotel, so you say with family, I fly them up early.
You spend time with family and then fly them back.
And he would do the weekend and he would do a seminar on the on the brewery.
See, O'Reilly is trying to figure it out.
So I did this twice a year, twice a year, if not more.
And because I did that, he would put people over, put me over,
but you know, Martino over, put a bunch of people over.
And I brought him in all the time.
Well, one day.
Because I was running, doing around, running, doing stuff,
and I've done many of his seminars, I didn't want to do it,
but Sarah was still training all the time and she did the seminar.
And he was talking to her and he convinced her to somehow give her number to him
so that he could get her bookings down in his area.
And I was like, uh huh.
Well, she told me one time when I was at her house
and he was texting her all the time and she showed me the text.
And one of the texts was he literally told her not to tell me about it.
I she's showing me the text.
And then so I sent him a text.
It's a picture of me taking a picture of her phone with it on there.
And I sent it to him from my phone.
And he just says, I assume I'm not going to be booked anymore, huh?
Like, probably not, asshole.
Probably not. Not going to say who it is.
He knows who he was. He got caught.
He said he was going to help her get bookings and help.
She can come down and train with him and all this shit.
And he can stay down at her place.
And she didn't really she was too awestruck about the situation
because she was green and didn't know how wrestling works.
And then she figured it out later when he started saying some fucked up shit to her.
You know, so it was optimistic.
She was she was innocent, didn't know until until she figured it out.
And then she showed me we also.
Yeah. When you guys broke up and what you're.
Couldn't tell you.
So it's been too long.
In relation to it, I remember.
And this was like at a point, you guys were like.
Either it had already been over and done.
With and I think you were still booking her, though, still.
Yeah, that's professional about it.
Right. So I remember this night very vividly.
She you had some card put together and it ended up being me and somebody else.
But then you noticed that Sarah was not there.
So you had some changes and then she just showed up.
And you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,
and you looked at me and you said, all right, change of plans.
And you had me versus Sarah.
And that's all you left it at was just that you didn't see who was over.
And then I remember at one point that we were trying to figure out what was going on.
I go, wait a minute, I don't know who's over.
And I walked over to you and I go, hey, who's over?
And you just look over at her just like in a in a glaring manner.
And then you look back at me and you go, you're over.
I was like, oh, OK, which was like my first singles victory,
like ever in wrestling so far at that point.
And it had been like seven months in.
And he just looks at her with this look and then looks back at me and goes,
yeah, you're over.
But the whole match was her just kicking my ass.
And then it was me with a roll up in the end of my entire match with Sarah.
Yeah, there were some awkward times there when we were split up.
I think it was because he had left me for a co-worker at her actual shoe job
who supposedly was gay and obviously was not.
And. It was just super awkward because she was like she thought she'd be cut out.
And I said, no, you can still come to shows.
And we were also in a storyline that had some semblance of realism, if you remember that.
We talked about that at the last, I think, the last one.
Yeah. Well, there was an incident out back.
I don't know if you remember this, but I think Scotty Wilde and Ace did
because they were sitting there when it happened.
It was me. We're going over that tag match.
It was me. And it was a handicap as Aiden Andrews, as Javin, Jim Andrews and Sarah.
And I was out back and I was we're going over the matchup and Ace and while we're
sitting down like changing and Mark Godfrey was there, he had a running spot.
Yeah. And I actually it was funny because Neil had actually hold Mark back
because she said something real fucked up. Oh, no.
I said, I was like, we're trying to go over the match and I keep asking her,
do you want to do this?
And she's like, I don't know, Eric, do I? Do I want to do that?
You're the one booking the match.
You're the you're the veteran. You figure it out.
And she was getting a lot of sass.
And I'm like, OK, we're not doing that spot.
Every time she gave me sass, I cut a spot out for her.
It's like, I'm just trying to get through this match.
She's like, well, what if I don't want to lose?
I said, then you don't have to wrestle ever again for me.
I don't know. No one. There's no one else like
you. I mean, we're like, well, that's the time we were keeping the light on.
My to be was only game of town anyway.
She was giving me so much sass.
And eventually I'm like, I was getting pissed in market.
Tell I was. And I said, listen,
I don't want to take two weeks to go over this fucking matchup.
I want to get this thing over and done with.
And it was it was totally a dig.
Because when we broke up
to after like a little, I once we broke up two weeks later,
she moved that guy in.
We were not.
So we broke up two weeks later, the dude was moved into her house
and she's like, oh, I see what you did there.
That's real funny.
Ha ha. Yeah, well, it's not going to take two weeks.
Is that's when she's like, it didn't take us two weeks to start fucking.
This is what she said.
So that means she would literally started fucking him right after she broke up with me.
And Neil actually had Omar Godfrey back.
See, he was he doesn't hit women. He's not into that.
He's a good dude, but he was right.
Pick her in space.
You had to step up to him. Like, don't do it.
He's like, dude, that was fucked up.
That was fucked up.
So she pretty much said.
Like, OK, it didn't take two weeks for them to start fucking.
That meant that she was fucking them either right when we broke up
or right after we broke up one of the time somewhere in there.
And mind you, I still stay professional, still went out there, did the match
after that, after I was over with, I gave her a show.
I showed up or not.
We finished the story.
We finished that story that night.
And Mark, Mark got a little receipt later
because she ended up showing up randomly for an island fall show one time.
Didn't know she was coming.
And I didn't have anybody.
Mark wasn't going to work the show at first.
He was just there to hang out.
But then I needed him to wrestle.
And he was like, OK, and I was like, I need you to wrestle Sarah.
And he was like, my fucking pleasure.
Yeah, she got lost.
She got blown up, mind you.
Mark is on dialysis three days.
He was. Yeah, he was not doing well, but he was in better cardio shape than she was.
And then she fucked up the finish.
And so in his finish was a super kick.
He went to go super kicker.
She was afraid to bump or something, but she ate that fucking super kick.
She fucking ate it.
And Mark's like, dude, she can't be wrestling anymore.
She was blown up. She can do this, can do that.
Come to find out. She'd been drinking.
Heavily her and her boyfriend were heavy in alcohol.
Now she's the exact opposite.
She don't drink. Oh, yeah.
He's a poor like she's a vegan.
I think she's a she went full full one three sixty to one eighty.
Whatever she turned her life around. Great for her. Happy for her.
I haven't talked to her in ages, but I saw her at the Skywagon Fair this past year.
She she looks she looks the same in all aspects, like
but like the other dreads.
She got dreads back then when all this stuff went down, she didn't have the drugs yet.
So her kids are adult now, which is wild.
Yeah. So not before.
I know her son got huge.
Yeah, he's just a big adult.
It looks like an adult.
Yeah, that was a whole nother fucked up situation that I don't know
if we should open that can of worms, but that whole thing.
We want to open up a can of worms.
Welcome to the first session of worm opening
you never when she broke up with me, mind you, I was with her for three years
and I was like over there every week. Right.
And he would play with my kids.
He was the age right in between my two kids.
So like they were all within a year of each other. Yeah.
So. When we called it,
when she called it quits with me, she never told him anything.
So she had just disappeared.
Do you wonder where I went now is like a father figure to him.
And we were doing a training week in Brewer and she came up.
Trying not to cry because it's sad.
He he was at the end of the train, like at the end of the training night,
he was sitting there just talking to him.
In the chair.
And she was in the ring.
And he he was like real sad.
He's like, why did you leave?
Why did you not come back?
And I said, that's not up to me.
That's up to your mom. Right.
Yeah. And I looked at her.
I looked at her like you didn't tell him anything, did you?
She started crying. She's like, no, right.
It didn't. And then
I had explained to him, like, well, your mom doesn't care,
doesn't love me like that anymore.
She loved her new boyfriend.
I'm not going to say it on here, but she loved she loves him now.
And I'll always be here for you.
I'm just sorry your mom didn't tell you that stuff,
because that's not something I could tell you.
She didn't want me around anymore.
And then he got upset.
At her, and then she kept crying and she said sorry to him,
and it was a whole hot mess.
And that was one of the last times like she start bringing in the shows.
After that. Yeah.
So I remember.
Yeah.
Up until he stopped.
And I felt bad for her.
But I also didn't because she should have said something. Right.
You know, because she he asked about my kids.
They used to all play together.
My daughter is at that age now where she asked that question to like
on a personal note, like, I understand.
Like, you know, she's like, why is, you know, mommy and daddy,
you know, that sort of scenario.
So like I totally understand that from your perspective.
And I'm not the biological father, obviously,
because he hadn't born way before me.
But I treat him like he was one of the kids because he was always with my kids.
He was always they were always hanging out and.
Yeah, stuff.
And he's a big kid now.
So, I mean, I saw him one randomly time in passing
to mommy and they were all eating and mommy one time way while back.
And as he got huge, he's about as tall as my kid is.
Boy, big.
He's about the same size as my kid.
They could have they could have done something in wrestling.
Tell you what, them two kids.
You're right.
Well, but yeah, it was sad.
And that kind of broke me when he was he was upset, like
he was starting to do with their own whole thing.
And I just felt bad.
I was just like, this is this should not be happening like.
Anyway, yeah, this is that kind of worms.
Yeah, let's open some more.
I'm sure you got to come on, guys.
You know, we can prepare your question.
Let's go.
I think we're going to hear.
Oh, oh, let's talk about.
Hang on, hang on.
Let's let's talk about let's talk about like because I mean, I can throw me
I feel like I could throw whatever.
Just get at me.
The Shane Marvel World title situation
in 2015 when you had Ace and Benny Russell each other instead.
You know what happened or how it happened?
I know everything about it when it happened, but I'm sure they have no idea.
Do that story.
And then we were talking about earlier where Shane Marvel didn't want to drop
the belt right.
And then he agreed to drop it for Torres or whatever.
Well, he stopped coming to shows after that.
He's all pissed off.
Which also funny note, all that was for nothing, because that Ultimo Dragon
seminar didn't even end up happening.
So
right. So
all of it was for nothing.
So that's why I thought so.
Anyway, fast forwarding
eventually I hear back from Marvel and he you know, he apologized
and he's not getting work, you know, he apologized to me, manned up about it.
So he fucked up and I said, cool, well, we'll bring you back in.
So we mend defenses, he came back in, worked his tail off, got him to the title
because he used to be a champion, got the belt back on him.
And at the time, remember, we were I said, Ace, after with the leatherheads,
I built him up singles wise.
He went from my twin cities champ all the way up, heavyweight, you know,
the whole thing. He has some real good shit.
We built them up. We did.
I was big on storytelling.
Everybody could tell you I did some amazing fucking stories.
And I had to be because that's my big thing.
We were very in his wrestling, some great wrestling there.
Like this best of seven series with Profit and Wild was some great fucking wrestling.
But also there's some great storytelling anyway.
So.
Marvel has the belt.
We're building up to Marvel versus Ace.
I don't know what brought this on.
But Ace had just wrestled Marvel's out back and he's supposed to do a run in and beat up Ace.
For some odd fucking reason,
Marvel hooks a chair to the ring at Ace, his ace in the back of the head.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
He sells it for a second, but you can tell it sounded
because it shocked him more than anything.
He took it. Mind you, the back of the head is an unsafe spot.
It's it's it's soft tissue skull.
You can't be doing that stuff.
Matt Hardy busted open Brock Lesnar by that by accident in the back of the head.
So Marvel hits the ring thinking he's going to beat down Ace.
Eight shoots, eight shoots back on him.
This is motherfucker.
Try to hit me in the back of the head with a fucking chair.
Like you could hear the shit they're throwing fucking squares.
They're throwing real punches.
It turns into a shoot.
And then the mic gets involved,
you know, because they still are working toward this matchup.
That's supposed to happen. The next Brewer show.
I was working and Cam was like, and he's like, I'm going to get him.
Like the whole member, you know, so he says, I'm going to kill this motherfucker.
I'm going to kill this motherfucker.
That started that night in Brewer.
That's how it started. That's right.
Part of my language. I'm going to kill this motherfucker.
And I'm like, oh, god damn it.
It's like a nice and nice family show.
There's kids in the audience.
It's this is the first time he says it, though, like that.
So and I had.
Good reason.
Kids are going home like motherfuckers.
So they're here.
They end up coming down.
Everything gets moved over.
Cool. We're still going to be able to do this match because they still got through
the promo, even though it felt like a shoot and it kind of was.
We get now.
I was weary on Marvel to begin with.
I'm not an idiot.
So for a couple of months, Ben was coming to shows.
Alexander Lee was coming to shows and just sitting there and watching
and would drink with the boys and hang out and was watching.
First night I met him was that I'm smart motherfucker.
Then the whole time Marvel was coming back, I had been showing up,
keeping an eye on him because I had a feeling.
Some guy can go his way. He's going to leave.
Sure as shit.
I get a text for the week of the show from Marvel.
Might not be able to make it up.
This, that and the other thing.
OK, cool. I didn't know.
Because I had a big this big orange old suitcase.
The belt bag of doom.
This is like one of those old school, hard
orange suitcases.
All the belts, all about it, be heavy as fuck.
You have to people carry the goddamn thing is so fucking heavy.
It's all about going to do your bag, your gimmick to do.
Well, I was when he said he wasn't coming at an inkling.
So I went and go checked.
He took the belt with him, which was a big no, no.
So I went and got the belt.
Which is a big no, no.
He took it. And I so I messaged him.
I was like, when are you going to tell me you took my belt?
Didn't take a long answer.
I was going to get promo shots with it.
I'm like, you didn't ask.
Belts go back in the bag for a reason.
They're not your property. They're my property.
They're props for a show show that I'm running.
They're not your property.
I need the belt back.
He's like, well, I don't know. I'm going to get it to you.
I'm like, well, you're going to ship it to me.
Because if you don't, I'm not considerate theft
because you already admitted in this text, you took it without asking.
And my buddy, his name is Eduardo, worked for Brewer PD
since the belt got taken in Brewer from an event.
I would have put it on to him and let him done the rest.
And I said, if you really don't want to, if you want to have charge, it's on you, buddy.
Let me know. And the only reason why we all knew this was because you called them out
during the meeting of the show.
He knew what he was doing, what he did it.
He even admitted to me he did.
He just didn't expect me to threaten to call the cops on him because I had it in.
I had a friend that worked at Brewer PD.
I was like, I'm just going to throw you into the bus, too,
because you took it from a Brewer show.
Yeah, that's in Brewer.
That's that's that's the location you stole it from, which city side from my bag.
It is.
And you admit it in the text.
You didn't. He admitted in the text.
He didn't have permission to take it.
So I said, you have a choice.
You have a choice.
I said, you have a choice.
You can overnight it to me.
Hope it gets here in time.
But if I don't have that belt in my hand, come show day.
Yeah. Cops getting called.
Yeah. You sent it and you gave me the tracking info.
You gave me all the info.
You got delayed, you got caught in the mail somewhere.
Oh, so I said, OK, I had a backup.
Oh, they have one of the old belts.
And we use that we use that to get by.
So come day of the show.
That was the first night I wrestled.
I was supposed to come to the show.
We didn't tell anybody that Marvel wasn't come.
Alexander Lee was Scotty Vegas at the time.
This is when the transition actually happened for him to be.
Alexander Lee was right after this.
He hadn't been on. He hadn't wrestled on shows and.
Maybe a year. Yeah.
Maybe a year.
He'd taken time off to get his health right because his back was fucked.
They had to come into the shows to watch him
was sitting in the audience and drinking and having a good time. So.
We began the show, we make the announcement,
tell everybody, Marbles not here.
But there is going to be a championship matchup tonight.
And we have a special and then Ace comes out,
we have a special opponent, blah, blah, blah, blah.
We built it up, built it up.
Ace comes out, nobody knows it.
Here comes Alexander Lee.
Big pop.
And this was supposed to be like a street fight, right?
Was it fans bring the weapons or was it was fans bring the weapons?
But that's supposed to be a big blow off of fans bring the weapons
between Marvel and Ace.
So there was weapons involved, which is Ben's forte anyway.
So it just worked out right.
Like my inkling, I'm not I'm nervous.
I'm not I'm always planning ahead.
If someone's going to fuck me over, I'm going to know it
or I'm going to be close to knowing about it before they even do it.
And that's when I caught Marvel, the bell of getting to me on Monday
after the show was over, we used an old belt.
Anyway, he also beat the shit out of that belt, by the way,
the belt that he had, he beat the shit out of it.
The other was cracked in multiple places.
No one took care of it.
And so I ended up selling that because I couldn't use it anymore.
So we just kept using the old belt until I got another new one.
And I sold the busted up one and I sold it to.
The five star spectacle guys.
Oh, J.C. and.
You know, you know, the dude with the chains
that used to come out of the the the the not the tall one that the other.
Yeah, not the manager, but the regular dude,
they had all the gold chain and he bought he bought the plates
and reloaded it and made it look nice.
I said, I can't do nothing with it.
It was destroyed.
But yeah, that's that story.
I'm always planning a bag and I to be days.
I always had a battle plan.
Someone wasn't coming.
I knew something was going to happen.
I go. You say.
Oh, he does depth stare.
You know, he just like he's like he broke the fourth wall.
I was like, fuck you.
Get on my spot.
Oh, shit.
I have it. I have another one.
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
We'll take parents. We got time to.
Roundtable. You go to.
You we messaged privately earlier before.
You were saying that you had a different scoop
about primer with New Jack.
Oh, you mean the thing
would happen while there is every time now.
I think so. Yeah.
OK, so primer led into it, but it didn't give the full details.
So I'll give you the details.
First primer, I gave primer the venue.
I had taken it over that that banger, which was a nice venue.
Neil used to run a company called
and in Andrews run a NEC, NCWE,
North Coast Wrestling Entertainment.
And they used to run shows in Ohio with Mark Godfrey.
And then they came back and he got this venue somehow.
Backyard. They did.
Or was this they did like I said, it was like
professionals and slightly trained people.
It was a thing they did in Ohio.
I couldn't tell you that I wasn't there for any of that.
When he came back here, they wanted to go
reopen their company and they got this venue.
Well, Mark was there to help, but he didn't want to be funding any of it.
Neil did it. And then I think Vaughn from Crown of Maine
helped finance some of the shows and get it going.
Eventually, Neil got burnt out and didn't want to run shows anymore.
I can't say about him. It's a lot of frigging work.
But he gave me the venue and I ran a couple of shows there.
I gave primer this venue and he's doing his first big primer ink presents show.
He brings in new Jack.
Tony Atlas was there, which that was super awkward
because Tony Atlas and New Jack don't get along.
Why?
Because
New Jack knows Tony to be a company man.
And I don't like company man.
You know, you guys, you guys are company guys.
So anyway,
fast forward to the part we're talking about.
So the main event is Larry Wilder and Rob Marsh.
Well, first off, my boy, they couldn't get any.
New Jack's opponent changed multiple times.
I wonder why originally it's supposed to be cactus.
It was really supposed to be cactus, pop, pop cactus.
The knockoff cactus Jack names Donnie dangerous Donnie cactus pop, pop.
He cuts a promo so on New Jack.
That's it's it's it's
like slight shoot, slight not.
And then New Jack cuts a promo back where he threatens to murder him and his family.
Which he would have done.
Magically, cactus cancels.
And then Rob Marsh is supposed to wrestle New Jack directly.
And Marshal give us
Marsha's ride head in the back.
And now so it left the only person that was like not booked,
but would do hardcore stuff is Larry Wilder.
But Larry Wilder does like the old.
Remember the hardcore belt back in the day, like road dog,
looking out snow and all that fighting for the W to be hardcore shit.
He doesn't do like deathmatchy stuff. Yeah.
And so Primer ends up finding somebody that's willing to give Rob Marsh a ride.
But I had already told Wilder he's going to wrestle New Jack.
So he's like, I'm going to do what I'm going to do.
Wilder, he's going to wrestle New Jack. So he's like, I'm going to do one better.
New Jack's bringing Kareem Kareem used to also wrestle for ECW.
If you all know that, but he did.
He also broke his leg in CW, but he used to wrestle in ECW.
So in Kareem had reached out from New Jack and said he was coming.
So Prime was like, fuck, he's free.
Sure, I'll use him. That's awesome.
So he had an ECW guys versus Wilder and Rob Marsh.
But he's going to have Wilder and Rob Marsh fight it out like a national match.
And then they come in and beat the shit out of all of them. Anyway.
Little did very many people know Larry Wilder is my was my brother in law
because I had married his sister at one point.
I was married for like six years.
I was married and then, you know, I got separated and divorced and all that fun stuff.
Well, I was dating Sarah at the time and Wilder was still wrestling.
I trained Larry Wilder because, like I said, he was my brother in law.
I trained him for free, mind you.
So he anytime me and Sarah together on shows, which was all the time back then.
He would tell everything that's happening with me and Sarah
to his mom, which is my ex wife's mom.
So I was hearing all this shit from my ex wife.
All the time, like he and all this bullshit.
And me and New Jack were just like me and Sarah.
I'm a cop. She was there. She was there to watch the show.
She wasn't on the show, but we were talking
and I introduced her to New Jack and me and New Jack had been talking.
I always saw the old guys seem to
come to me. We all start shooting the shit about old shit.
Wonder why. Anyway,
I explained to him
that one of the guys he's wrestling is my former brother in law.
He was really and I had.
Oh, yeah. And I had to just let it slip that he
was always running his mouth to my ex wife's mother,
my former mother in law.
He was really.
Hmm.
Oh, Eric, you're the reason.
So hold on.
We're going to get to it. Don't ruin it yet.
I didn't say nothing else,
but I could tell he's like son of a bitch. All right.
So me and primary had seen us talking a couple of different times.
Like I said, mean any other old guys in wrestling mean them always end up
hitting it off because we always talk about old shit. So.
Fast forward, the match happens.
Now, obviously, Wilder takes the finish, which is where
New Jack jumps off the top rope, full cactus jack style and skateboards
that like to cover chair off of Wilder's face.
Yeah. And fucks while real fucking good.
Also, Wilder was wearing new gear that match.
I don't know why he was wearing brand new gear that his girlfriend had bought him.
And New Jack was he's through in this brand new set of gear
he's wearing because he's sitting with light tubes, a pizza cutter, a sickle.
I think someone someone hit somebody with a keyboard from a computer.
There's a bunch of shit.
New Jack fucked his day up and Kareem had a baseball bat
wrapped in a shoot barbed wire, wasn't even clipped, was with that shit
right across his right across his single brand new single.
It was hitting that shit right across his fucking spine.
I don't fucking sit up.
So, of course, I end up hearing shit later.
Not so much about me and Sarah this time, but
how I essentially.
Put a head out on Larry.
I'm like, what?
And this is while I'm still at the venue.
I'm hearing this shit from my ex wife,
which is she's getting yelled at from her mom, my former mother-in-law.
I'm hearing this shit from my ex wife.
And I'm still at the venue.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Why am I?
I thought I was going to yell that about the Sarah thing again, like,
oh, no shit about Sarah, like this is my ex wife, like it's over with.
I'm hearing all this shit.
No, she was mad
because it's like I put a hit out
on Larry Wilder, I'm like, what?
And so I go talk to New Jack, who, mind you, is bleeding out his fucking hand.
He's like, Bannon, you know, shut up.
I'm like, New Jack, did you kick the shit out of Wilder for me?
He's like.
Because they think I paid you money.
I put a hit out on Wilder, he's like, no,
I guess he's like, he's like, no, snitches get stitches.
I did that shit for motherfucking free.
No, I did that shit for free.
He's like, no, snitches get stitches.
I did that shit for motherfucking free.
I was like.
And that's why I love Jack.
I was like, so that's that's what primer was alluding to.
Yeah, that's the story.
Everybody thinks I put a hit out on Wilder.
I'm like, no, I didn't.
And New Jack was straight up because I was like, New Jack,
did they think I paid you money to beat the shit out of him?
And he's like, no, snitches get stitches.
I did that shit for motherfucking free.
Respect that.
Oh, yeah, I think his bloody hand on that one is like that.
So that's your new Jack story.
You're welcome. I love it.
And they've Larry Wilder is hearing this.
You heard it firsthand, man. He did that shit for free.
Any business?
I mean, me and my me and my ex-wife are civil.
So like, I don't know what I get as his sister.
And now.
I get it. I would do the same shit, I guess.
You know, I mean, if I was in his shoes, I do the same thing.
Family family.
So me and my ex-wife are civil and we were separated at the time
and all was said and done, she really was deep in someone else.
And I was with Sarah and it was like me and Sarah thing happened by accident.
Her kid would play with my kids at a party.
We all met at a party once and we just happened to know each other.
We go, hey, what are you doing here?
And we kept having play dates and the shit just.
Happened.
Anyway, all right.
Well, first off, you've already asked a question and he's ready to ask
a question, is Dylan next to have a question before we go back to O'Reilly
who has another question?
No, because I didn't prep, I'll be honest.
I was busy all week.
I'm going to stick this pen up your pee hole.
Oh, wow.
Do it to match JP, he'll take it.
Well, JP, what?
Why don't you steal the question from Kevin there in the chat?
How about Harris Country versus the street versus MSP versus EOS?
Was an Eric storyline, I don't think.
No, no, I will say this.
I said that, you know, something happened afterward.
I will say I did create a lot of those tags, though.
BRG, if you back up, I don't know if you all remember with the let's
wrestle shit like a young BRG was Todd Harris and I gave him his break.
Yep.
He was the only working showcase pro in Massachusetts.
And that was the only place he'd get work.
No one else would give him work.
And I go way back with Chris Blackheart, her on show, showcase, bro.
He gave me one of my first matches for working for Tony.
He wanted you to kick the shit out of me.
But go back.
I fucked up. I had it coming.
I was green as grass.
You get the shit out of me.
Anyway, I work for showcase a bunch of times.
So far back, I go with Blackheart.
But anyway, he would send people up that needed work to me.
A lot of schools did.
As I said, you need work.
You want to work in front of a crowd of 100 plus people.
I'll give you some work who wants, you know,
and one of the people he sent me was Todd Harris.
He also sent me the reflers.
The referees, they used to wrestle the reflers.
I don't know if you heard of him.
He sent me he sent me BRG and BRG would always hit me up.
Hey, if you ever have a spot, let me know.
I'd love to come up. He always just kept wanting to come up.
And eventually I kept getting him work.
And then he reached out about his buddy Malik
because they do a tag called the Harris Country Club.
And I said, all right.
And right on my way out is when I started giving Malik work
and I was starting to sell IDB.
That was last few months is when I started giving Malik work.
Well, they carried over into the new regime for Ida B.
It's the Harris Country Club.
As for the street, they were never originally the street
because it was elite Terrell and Angel Cross were doing.
They were singles guys. I put them together as a street.
I told them I convinced them to do a tag.
And that's how the street became about.
The person actually came up with their tag name was the captain.
They had I had the look in mind.
I told them what I needed, what I wanted them to do.
They were reluctant.
And then they started doing it and realizing it was getting over.
Captain came up with their name, the street.
And they ran with it for everywhere with their own entire tag career.
So I gave the both those tags their start.
But everything that happened after that was on out of me, like
the Arab violence thing, that was a rock. I always use Marsha on and off for years
when he can get up here.
His biggest problem was getting a ride.
Well, Billy drives
so once he was able to get a ride up, it was the four of us
like just doing it every shows me, Marsha, Billy.
Billy was the way to get Marsha a constant ride to shows.
And that's how I was like, I always trusted Marsha's judgment.
And that's how Billy got in.
He's like, hey, I got this guy.
Just started working. What needs work? Same thing.
Billy needed work.
Get here. He looks he looks good.
And he needed work.
And I trusted Marsha's judgment because I used them on and off for years.
So Marsha rang up Billy and that's how they got the Arab violence booked.
And that's the last self-explanatory story.
We ran over that last time.
Last time I will give it to them, though, I worked the shit.
I I feel bad.
But my always my theory was more reps makes you better.
So when I first started out, I was doing weekly shows, working twice a night.
Plus weekend shows.
I was working a lot that more reps get you to understand
and learn better.
And I passed that same thing off onto MSP, the fog or however,
when Amber and Josie, everyone to call them when they first started,
I had them working twice a night on purpose.
More reps made them better.
Now look what happened.
What happened? They became fantastic.
Mind you, they did it on their own.
I just gave them the tools and built the foundation.
They built the house.
But I did it that way.
And some people get spiteful about it.
Some people hate that.
Like, oh, you like you got to have more reps.
Same thing with Frankie Flashback, working shows.
He goes himself to go.
It's now he and I just had the other day.
He did the same thing.
I'd have him work as himself, but then would have him work under a
hood is a power ranger or a Spider-Man on shows back in the day.
That's how he got extra reps to get better.
Yeah. So but anyway, I was doing Mason X before Sean did it.
And then I was doing myself as you inherit.
You bought it off me.
Remember, you bought the whole outfit off me.
Yeah.
I used to be all the years and I to be I was always my snacks.
There was so many different eras of sizes of Mason.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Well, it was me.
Sorry.
I'll give you the full story.
I'll give you the full story from the beginning.
I know it.
Oh, like I knew JP was, but I never knew that you were.
I was I was the constant one for the longest time until Killian took it over.
Back in the day, it was one once back in the day and New Wrestling
Horizons, dangerous Donnie had not who was cactus.
Pop pop hadn't hadn't been wrestling in a long time and he wanted to come back,
but not as himself.
They want to put him under hood.
So they gave him the overalls and the mask instead of calling him Jason X.
They called him Mason X so they wouldn't get sued.
Well, Donnie left again.
So they had John the bomb filling in on occasion as he wrestles himself.
And then we do Mason X.
Well, eventually, John the bomb hated doing Mason X hated it.
And I at the time was a greenhorn and would agree to wrestle twice.
And I would I would do I was like, I'll work twice.
Cool.
I work as myself and do Mason X.
And I kept doing that for like ever.
All the way through Ida B time.
I was you know, anytime you saw Mason X on a show in the early years of IWE up until
I left, I was always Mason X.
And myself, that was me.
So for the entire nine year stint, I ran Ida B, I was Mason X and myself.
When I got done, this guy right here, when I got rid of me, he they they wanted they
I think they bring on the bring back mass wrestlers anonymous is what they wanted to
bring back me and hobo Joe and you and Mason X.
He took Mason and this and turned it into a comedy babyface tag team.
So terrible, because we would come out as a dancing babyface mass tag team.
That's because that's what mass wrestling anonymous used to be.
You weren't there for the first iteration, were you?
No, it was me and primer primer was Jesus Hernandez.
Hey, homes, you want to ask?
And then Aiden Andrews was the the punisher and he came out with a wearing a like a bony
outfit with a skull mask.
We were mass wrestlers anonymous and we were a comedy wrestling group.
Like we were like, you know, there's alcoholics anonymous.
We were anonymous.
That was the thing.
It's like we were like, we we know we have a problem, but we're OK with it.
Like, you know, we were trying to make it work and we we made it work.
We did this comedy bit.
We come out.
I'd be scary Mason, all serious.
Hey, Zeus, Hernandez to be the funny dancing guy and the punisher would be like the little
tough guy that thinks he's like bigger than he is, but he's not.
You know, like the Crascolli syndrome and.
And at the end of the match, after we win, obviously, Mason X always got the hot tag
and he come in and kill people and they'd win.
And after we would go to leave, they would stop me from leaving.
I'm Mason X and they'd always drag me back in there trying to like cheer me up, make
me happy, even though I'm a big scary looking dude.
And then so all of a sudden.
Well, a couple I'd try to leave again.
They pull me back in.
No, no, no.
You got to do it.
And then the music we play, they'd be sharp dressed man.
I'm ZZ Top.
I was a new girl.
So crazy about a sharp dress man.
And I start doing the robot as Nathan X and people would look at it.
So I was hilarious.
It was super over and people loved it.
We sold, I think, five runs of mass wrestlers, anonymous T-shirts.
It was super over.
And this is mind you, early years of IWB.
So the fact that they remembered that shit and convinced you to buy the outfit off me
so that you and Joe could reiterate it.
And we did.
We did it for a little bit too.
And it wasn't getting over, though, was it?
It was no, because it was obviously a whole joke.
And we were doing it as a squash bit to like put over some like heel tag teams to see that
the problem was we did as a comedy bit and we even had the lights like we'd have the
lights go off and we do.
We set it all up and lights and shit, make it look cool.
So like when I'm going to leave as Mason, they'd stop me and bring me, like drag me
back to the building.
Come on, you got to do it.
Then the lights would go out, the lights that would dim and come back on.
We'd be all like too cool style.
And all of a sudden girls go crazy about a shop dress man.
All of a sudden, I'm doing the fucking robot and they're dancing.
It's to me.
It was a comedy bit and it was over.
They just wanted a squash team and they figured they could just have you and coba work twice.
There was a point in time even between me and doing stuff with Joe that eventually they
would like I would do the, I think I did the king in new England and I had, I would have
my regular gear on underneath the Mason X gimmick and I would literally go out there
and wrestle as Mason in the rumble, in the rumble, get eliminated.
And then like a couple of instances later come out as myself and do that again.
And I was like drenched in sweat.
I was dying because it was like the summertime thing.
I felt went out of where that shit and I was like, and that's when I realized I was like,
oh, this was a, yeah, this was me.
That's you doing it, right?
Yeah, that was me doing it.
Okay.
If you go back, you want to find stuff with me as Mason X.
I don't know if there's any up there, but I remember one time me and Ian Griffin, cause
Ian Griffin before he was with the Muts, God rest his soul.
He was coming up for me by himself and we created a tag team and Wallace was our manager.
We were the towers of pain is me and Griffin.
But yeah, look up some Mason next shit.
I'll tell you if it's me or not.
I'll tell you which one's me.
It's going to be older though.
Oh yeah.
The next rest like and see if that finds up on YouTube.
But anyway, after he bought the stuff, eventually when he got done doing it, Killian, I think
had an accident in that wrestling and he was coming back in and he wanted to do something
different.
That's when he started picking up the Mason X stuff.
My last stint or ever match of Mason was in Dexter.
It was me and Sonny doing a dance off and under a lot of people probably don't know
this unless they were there underneath.
I've never told Sonny about this until it happened in the ring.
I had a Halloween cost from the year before it was a adult size Stewie Griffin outfit.
I had taken the outfit.
Oh God.
That's me.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
I think that's me anyway.
But as Andy McKenzie, the frenzy Andy McKenzie, that's yeah, I think that's totally me.
Can't tell it's me though, can you?
Yeah, you're welcome.
The frenzy Andy McKenzie, we were, there was me, Ian Griffin and the frenzy Andy McKenzie.
We were the towers of pain.
We're all real tall dudes at the time.
Yep.
That's totally me.
Yeah, that's Torres.
It's now, you know, I know it's me.
I could tell from the boots, the boots.
They're never, it never tells me.
So that's the whole stand of IWE.
The time I ran it from when it started to the nine year anniversary show.
Yep.
Mackenzie.
Yeah.
That was all me.
It wasn't until he bought it off me that someone took it.
I wasn't going to do it.
I wasn't going to sell it until he's like, I want to do it.
And I said, whatever.
I didn't care anymore.
I took your 60 bucks.
Was it?
No, it was a hundred.
It was a hundred because you bought the mask and the overalls.
Yeah.
So yeah, the last ever student of Mason with me was me and Sonny doing a dance off.
I never told Sonny what I was going to do in the dance off.
All I told him was just to chop me at the end of it and I would sell out of the ring.
And I had a full blown Stewie Griffin outfit costume underneath.
So when it came my turn to dance, I told Ethan to play a pony.
And so that's terrible.
I am pony and I took the outfit that you're wearing, the same outfit that you're wearing
in this, in that, in that video.
And I stripped down on Sonny and had just the, um, the, the Stewie Griffin outfit on,
on the inside and the backside of it had a detachable ass.
So it was just like an ass.
He's one of the Mason X died.
He died that night and then he was reborn with Sean.
Well, as you just said, they couldn't tell it was me.
So before, back when I did it, like I did as a scary kid, I jumped the shit out of many
escape little kid in the front row.
I went up to him and like, like I was, I made it serious because I knew I could always,
I could always do both.
I would always there and I don't have to pay myself to work twice.
And I knew I could not, you could tell it's not me.
Right.
And I was a big dude.
So when I tagged with Griff or Mackenzie there, we were the towers of pain.
We fit in well.
So did y'all know I was Mason X?
I was a long running Mason X.
You're welcome.
I'm trying to find you doing the robot as early years, man.
Good luck.
So real quick, so that'd be like 2008 or nine.
Here's a baby face Mason X was 2008, 2009.
Let's see if you remember maybe 2010, maybe this was either late 2014 or early 2015 Joseph
von Schmidt.
Yep.
Randy Walker.
Yeah.
I remember the match.
Remember the match or the whole incident that occurred around the match.
Oh, the flag bit.
Mixed with the hand signs.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I told Big Cat about this.
You've told me this story.
I want to hear about your bunch.
Schmidt's gimmick is he's a German like sympathizer.
So he does the whole thing, obviously from the name, his luck, his attire.
Well, he was he was I had him wrestling.
I want to wrestle someone small so you can throw him around because he's a really big
fucking dude.
And I was like, Randy Walker has always been my good go to guide to build build talent.
He's been I call him a wrestler and they're called carpenters.
They're good because they help build up talent.
Right.
OK.
And Von Schmidt, I had plans for because he's a big fucking dude.
He stands out.
Oh, motherfucker.
And I knew him from on fire because he was on their TV when I was on it.
So anyway, he came up with Tommy Mack for a weekend and I bet I'm going to have you
come on.
Kill Randy Walker, which is the drunk redneck dude, which also I gave Randy Walker his gimmick
name.
You know what he was when he first started wrestling the redneck punk.
Oh, God.
I was like, no, we'll keep in redneck.
And I'm like, we're calling you Randy Walker.
And I came out with a Randy part.
There's a Randy and redneck go to well together.
Walker because of Johnny Walker, the alcohol, because he came out with a bottle of either
Jack Daniels or bottle Johnny Walker.
And then he had someone wheelbarrow him out all drunk.
So the match went off and the flag that we used to pin up on the wall, we used to put
up on the wall for the national anthem, got knocked down by Vaughn Schmidt, who was also
doing the certain German hand gestures.
If you know what I mean, then certain salutes.
And there was some people that were in the audience that were veterans of said country
that we live in and they were not very happy about it.
It wasn't just veterans.
They were actual like redneck dudes in the.
Oh, yeah, they're pissing.
They're gonna piss.
They used beating up redneck Randy Walker, which is by like their cousin twice removed
on their mom's side.
Funny, funny, quick little story about redneck Randy Walker.
I worked him at TIW and Wolf.
Yeah.
And Wolf's like, I could kind of promo before we go out there.
I'm like, all right.
So I'm just like being a smart ass heel.
And he looks at me.
I'm like, dude, if I wanted to hear from a discount Larry Huntley, I'd ask.
And he's the only person in the crowd that got it.
But he tried so hard not to laugh.
He'd been doing that gimmick before Larry Huntley.
I know, but it was just funny shit.
I don't know.
I gave him the gimmick.
Like, well, he started it with the red.
He came up as the redneck punk and he came up with a Viper, the ninja, the Alden brothers
and Ricky Williams when they first came up way back in the day.
I think what Randy Walker is his old job.
He couldn't come up all the time.
So he could only come up sporadically.
And I'd be like, tell me when you're available.
I always put you on, man.
You're a great carpenter.
I love to help you on the show.
And because I helped him build his gimmick, he'd come up for super cheap.
And he always was very appreciative and respectful, which I still love him to this day.
Yeah.
And he would come up and just happen to be a weekend.
He was coming up and I'm like, I got the perfect opponent for you because of my redneck in
Maine, drinking alcohol and a venue that serves another hall right next to it.
And you're wrestling the German sympathizer.
Yep.
This is going to happen.
And it was he there was a lot of heat.
I was I thought people were going to jump in and start trying to beat on Von Schmidt.
We had security people, but I'm like, here's the dozen dudes that wanted to jump Smosh
Schmidt that night.
The problem was, is you send out Godfrey, you send out Neil.
And by that point, I look over and I'm like, what are they going to do?
And then out comes you.
And all of a sudden, that's when they're all just like started because I was busy at the
moment.
I didn't know what was going on until someone ran back and told me what had happened.
And so I sent them because I trusted them to go find out to tell me.
And then when I heard it was getting bad, I stopped what I was doing and I just ran
out there.
Didn't they?
So but no, no flights happen.
Nothing happened.
Nobody threw punches.
Everybody's got pissy.
They put the flag back up.
It wasn't like it got thrown on the ground.
It landed on a chair and like they were just mad that he would disgrace it.
And I'm like, he's it's a show.
He's not doing it on purpose.
Like you know, I'm trying to break the I didn't break the fourth wall, but I calm them down.
They were fired up from alcohol.
Let's be real here.
They're drinking pictures of fucking beer out of the pitcher, not out of the cup, out
of the fucking pitcher.
Yeah, they were fired up.
Anyway, it was just messed up, but we got them all.
But they still stayed and watched the fucking show and they still went and drank with us
afterwards in the bar.
It wasn't that bad.
They just they want to be bad asses.
And honestly, I think Von Schmidt could have took half of them anyway, but
dude, I would have murdered most probably.
That's why I'm like, it's it's I'm not too worried about it.
That's why I say all that shit.
Like whenever somebody gets a wild up, I'm like, just calm it down.
Like even Carl, who used to be one of the owners of the city side with over there, he'd
always be there for wrestling nights until he had his heart issue.
But he would always be like, oh, like he'd tell me to calm it down.
Like there was an incident with Tony, a cop got called on Tony Atlas.
And he was just like, are you kidding me on Tony Atlas?
I don't know if we're going to open that can of worms either.
Probably probably one of us.
It was a night that Chris Hammer was there.
Tony Atlas was there.
Gino Martinez there.
And Sonny's out back and he's changing by all of them.
He knows all of them and they're all shoot.
They're all shooting each other.
They're all like all the old guys are sitting together, chatting the chat.
And I'm running around, running the show, whatever.
And I get a I get a I get a something happened where someone ran out and said, you need to
come out back right now.
Tony Atlas is trying to kill Coach Beavis.
If you're watching this, I'm just telling the story.
Let's just get it out there.
It's old shit.
Don't get buttered.
So I come running out back and Tony has Kevin by the collar and lifted him up like this
is like, don't you ever fucking talk to me like that.
You motherfucker.
I'll kill you right here.
I'll kill you where you stand.
Like and Gino and Chris Hammer are trying to calm Tony down.
Calm down.
And coach, you just see, I just see Kevin's little feet dangling, kicking.
Yeah.
Tony can hold them up there in one hand.
I'm like, so I guess my decision situation and I'm trying to find out what happened.
Kevin was arguing about something and he was pissed off and he was literally just blowing
up at everybody.
He's like, you can go fuck yourself and you, you asshole.
Like he was, he said he called, he called Tony an asshole.
You, you asshole, you piece of shit.
But he was, I don't know what pissed off Kevin, cause I didn't catch that part.
But I heard that like he mouthed off to Tony and Tony was in the middle of changing.
He's like, what'd you see to me, boy?
And he grabbed him by his fucking throat and he bought him one of the more like and I just
remember seeing Kevin's legs flailing.
So supposedly the person who called the cops was Chris Berry's wife.
God rest her soul.
She called because she heard about it.
She called the cops.
Cops show up.
Obviously Kevin's not going to press charges on Tony.
The cops showed up and they're like, why are we even here?
Yeah.
But they want to talk to Tony.
And so Sonny was sitting there and I Sonny, I got to run the show.
You saw it happen, right?
He's like, yeah.
Can you go with Tony to make sure they don't arrest Tony?
That'd be, I'd really hate to see Mr. USA, Tony Atlas in a cop car.
He's like, he's like, I'll go out there.
He goes out, Sonny's dressed in his work clothes.
Like when he works at the dealership, so he looks all professional and Tony is dressed
in his gear.
So they're out there to talk to the cops.
By the end of it, I finally come out to check and make sure that Carl, the owner, standing
there, they're all shooting the shit with the cops.
Cops are all laughing, getting pictures with Tony Atlas.
Like with their phones.
And Sonny and Carl just like.
Wrestling.
And Sonny, if everything's cool, he's like, oh yeah, Kevin's not pressing any charges
and everything got dropped.
He just got blown out of hand because Chris Barry's wife called the cops and it's a factor.
The cops end up just were excited to meet Tony Atlas and wanted to get pictures with
him.
So now that's great.
But there's a Tony Atlas.
I'm like, great.
I'm going to go back to running the show now.
Goodbye.
And Sonny just sitting there and it's like suit and he's just like.
Yeah, that's that was the night that Gino wrestled Chris Hammer actually.
So that's cool.
That's cool.
It was a good show.
I just wish I didn't get all the full beat still.
I still not got the full beats.
I just never turned the corner and seen Kevin's feet dangle in there as Tony's got him up
in the air against the wall like this.
Yeah, don't talk with Tony.
I've seen Tony mad one time.
That was the he wanted to go home and he was giving it to Larry and Larry's just Larry's
backing off.
It's like, OK, Tony, no, we'll get you a ride.
Just don't worry about it.
Give us a minute.
We'll keep we'll get to going.
Yeah, it was like that's the only time I've ever seen Tony.
I've seen him once at a show.
This was like an idea.
You know what?
It was the last anniversary.
No, no, no, no.
This was like the round like probably time I was training.
I had heard him like yell out while like somebody was locking up and hearing his voice was terrifying.
Was that the day that roadblocks spit on him for real?
No, I don't think this is a brewer show.
We've got to tell the story now.
So we hold them before you say that.
It's it's I'm good.
Thanks, buddy.
I know you guys smoothed over right before the cops even got there.
It just was stupid that the cops even got called.
But you know, you got to respect Chris Barry's wife for doing that.
Looking out for you.
But anyway, back to the Tony getting spit on by roadblock story, which everybody's going
to love, I'm sure Kevin's going to remember this and love this story.
So I'm I'm like, I remember watching it happen because we had a monitor out back and I couldn't
believe it happened.
It's John the bomb in Tony Atlas versus a version of the new leather has, which is big
gene.
You all know, big gene, big genome power.
Yeah, me was big gene.
Jero.
I started I gave him his name of Big Gene Jero.
He changed the last name to Bower because he liked it better.
And I said, Rumble, I gave him that last name and he really liked it.
So he's changed it.
But anyway, this big gene and roadblock as the leatherheads versus Tony Atlas and John
the bomb and I think roadblock roadblocks put the heat on because this is what's not
supposed to happen.
Roblox putting the heat on John the bomb and he's goes to fake spit at Tony Hawks, a full
on loogie at Tony and his Tony right in the test.
Tony doesn't even wait for the tag.
You see him grab the ropes, get in the ring, just full on spot right over to roadblock
who's in the ring with John the bomb grabs him, takes them to the corner.
You go as loud as you can possibly hear.
You go.
He goes, you want to spit on me, motherfucker?
Brian picks them up again by his beard, by his beard, yanks him back up one more time.
He does like two or three times.
Beats the inside of him in the corner.
And mom was smart.
He grabbed big gene and said, we're taking it home in BG and John the bomb while Tony
is beating the shit out of roadblock in the corner.
John the bomb is taken home the big gene and that was the finish.
That was not how the match was supposed to go.
It went like, like six minutes tops.
It was like five, five to six.
I saw that recently.
You want to spit on me, motherfucker?
Like I was just like, we're all watching from the monitor.
Like you see roadblock come out back.
He's just big three big handprints on his fucking chest.
You see where Tony had yanked him up by his goatee, lifted him, yanked him.
He's like, you pick him up and throw him into the fourth row.
Please tell me this is this match.
I might have found it.
If you had found it, this is going to be glorious.
I might have.
Give me one second.
I'm skipping through.
Oh, God, here we go.
You see big gene with roadblock and attacking John the bomb and Tony, the only one that
ever happened.
So, okay, this is it then.
I don't know if you hear this.
This must be it then.
God, share the screen.
Oh, the fan cam, the glorious fan cam.
Oh, shout out to the end.
You'll just randomly see Tony walk in.
There's not even a tag, I believe, if I remember correctly.
It's been a while, so hopefully I got it right.
I think I'm pretty sure there's not even a tag.
I mean, it's just fuck it.
David, go to the tag.
Smart tag wrestling.
Oh, OK.
Oh, yeah.
Watch.
He's a shit.
Oh, he does.
He goes after him again in a minute.
Yeah.
Right.
You can see he comes in.
He's got some fire in his brain.
You can see that pretty much.
He looks nice.
I like how he switches the nice with big gene.
He's beating his shit out of him.
Whenever you ever seen Tony just stomped someone in the corner, go back.
You just pick him up by his goatee one more time.
Go back.
You'll see him.
Maria lifts him up by his goatee.
But Tony never stomped anybody.
He just grabs him by his goatee and yanks him to his feet.
Nope, not done yet.
We're going to take it home now.
Ron bombs like, let's take it home.
This is the finish down the bomb.
There's a spot to.
Oh, now he's going back and I've done the bomb.
This one got fucked up ending.
Watch it.
It looks stupid.
The ending looks really stupid.
I mean, it's.
Yeah, it gets botched.
It's totally.
Tony is coming with fucking Roblox.
Oh, Gene hit his head.
Who's on the floor?
Oh, wow.
Do we want to watch that again?
You want to see him get chopped again, right?
And then he, I love how you say drove him up in the corner by his goatee.
I was like, I remember him dragging him up in the corner by his goatee.
I'm like, oh, this is going to suck for you.
The first shot that was back shot.
You could tell he's pissed.
You need to send this to bed and be like started at this time frame.
This time stamp and then we'll buy.
He's always like, fuck you.
It seems to tag.
That's more than he goes.
Nice to gene, but then he goes back to road.
Well,
I just love it.
And he yanks him up by his goatee right here with this fantastic.
Come here, you little fucking gremlin.
That's an insult to gremlins everywhere.
How often have you seen Tony for those type of jobs?
Yeah, never, never, never.
That's how you know he was pissed.
I'm just joking about the buckle.
He does.
He doesn't move.
We're done.
He's yelling at him right now.
He's like, you ever spit on me again, I'm going to kill you.
He's like, if you ever spit on me again.
I think he says it right there.
He spit on me.
I'm like, I'm going to kill you.
I'm going to give it down the bomb to know better than take that sit home.
Once you knew Tony was like, I'm taking this at home.
Let's go to the face guys.
And they.
At least John, the bomb knew enough because he's experienced.
Okay.
Tony's piss time to take it home.
That's a small package.
I'm going to do this finish that we plan to that Eric booked and they still they fucked it up.
At least they do better.
Like Tony's piss time to take it home.
Speaking of Eric book, Tony shoots.
Leave home.
It was not supposed to happen.
We apologize.
Both to me and to Amber after that.
So that story was is I built up an angle.
And Amber had a bunch of family come in.
This is like Amber's first really big match.
Yeah.
Of her career as Levi Lexington.
And so we're built.
We had, I had, I used to do these TV spots on Fox.
Good morning, wrestling.
And we do them like every month for our shows.
And I had Amber come on as Levi Lexington.
They interrupt me and cut a promo to the TV camera on Tony.
It was a great promo.
Yeah.
Tony actually had saw it.
And thought it was a shoot.
So I went forward.
He thought it was part shoot.
I thought it was just because of how they called the match needed.
No, because he thought he thought it was part.
He saw it.
He wasn't very happy about it.
Like I said, it was great promo, but he thought it was part shoot.
So come time of the show, I guess this is after I found out after that Tony thought it was part shoot.
So I didn't know this till Tony told me after the match.
I stopped using Tony after a while after that on purpose.
He knew he knew he knew he fucked up.
He apologized.
Tony's never like that.
He just his anger got over him.
And anyway, the day of the show, I didn't know that he'd seen the promo.
It was heated.
Again, I should have known better because it was on Fox was on TV.
So I'm sure he saw it somewhere.
And we also used to air it on the YouTube channel.
Yeah. And anyway, they had planned it so that I well, I had booked it so that the only way it would make sense for me because Amber being so much smaller than Tony is if Amber jumped.
Tony in the entrance. Right.
And Tony agreed that made sense.
So that's what we're going to do.
Well, I guess because Amber ran out so fast.
Amber blasted Tony in the back.
Tony, Tony, but Tony's the size of a brick shit house.
Yeah. So when Amber hit Tony, Tony went, I don't think so.
Tim turned around and proceeded to beat the shit out of Amber for the entirety of the matchup.
Obliterated.
And to Amber's credit as Levi Lexington tried to get it back on track a couple of times, but Tony wasn't having it.
Oh, Tony was after after I guess because he saw the promo.
And when he got jumped and it was stiff, he thought it was a shoot and back in the day.
That's what things like that used to happen back in the day.
I remember. So I understood Tony's perspective.
And he apologized to me afterward. And I said, Tony, I can't hear that. You just you just beat the shit out of my champ.
One of my champs. Yeah. He was the junior weight champion.
Yeah. And then at the time he announced Amber is she.
But yes, during that time, like when people were talking about it, people thought it was just because of the way that the match was put together.
And then like obviously didn't go the way that it was figured that Tony was just shooting on Amber because Amber was not listening to any spots or being called or anything.
And that's that's how I did. I was in the same boat as you were until I talked to both sides.
And then when Tony said I had seen the promo and I thought it might have been thought I thought it might have been a shoot.
And then when Levi Lexington blasted Tony in the entrance way, it made him really think it was a shoot.
So he started shooting back. So, yeah, I first saw that.
So I was like, OK, that makes sense, because Tony has told me some really crazy stories back in the day having to fight his way out of bars and shit.
Yeah, it's tests. As tests like he'd get brought into a territory.
See if he could defend himself. He'd go into a bar because he's black.
No offense. They take him to like a bar like people like that should have been in there.
Yep. And they'd have people try to jump on me to have to fight his way out.
And if he fought his way out, he got the book.
So I understood where Tony was coming from, because I've heard all these stories from just traveling with him over the years.
So when that shit happened, I was like, I don't know, because Amber had all family in the audience, like a good 20 people or so.
And just watched him watch Amber get beat up by Tony Atlas. Someone he watched as a kid.
She watches now. I remember telling you after I saw that because I was supposed to wrestle Tony.
I wrestled Tony the next night. I literally looked at you and I was like, I don't want to do it.
I just won the tag titles with Ricky Williams. And the first ever title, I looked at you and I went, I don't want to do it.
I was like, I generally don't want to do it. And then the next night was in Fairfield and I wrestled him.
He was all cool, calm and collected and everything was fine.
And it was even cool because he was chill with not going over.
And Ricky had worked with Tony multiple times. I was the Canadian and then Mr. USA.
Come on. Now you didn't think I was going to book that multiple times.
Well, it was just me because because Ricky couldn't come to the Fairfield show.
Correct. But like that's like Ricky wasn't going to lie to you.
Travis won't tell you like Tony's nice and easy to work with. It's just that scenario.
I can understand being scared. I was like, I don't want to.
And you saw the roadblock incident, so I'm sure you're like, I don't want to get murdered by a Hall of Famer.
I'm watching this on repeat, basically.
You keep watching it, don't you?
It's so funny. Just some joking about at the end.
Yeah, I like how he interchanged like he one minute he's he's beating the shit out of a roadblock.
Hi, Gene, Jason, she nice and easy to the corner and back to beating the shit out of a roadblock.
I mean, OK, at least Gene didn't get any brunt of that shit.
And John the bomb, like, I think it's time to take it home and we fuck it up.
But we're still taking it home because Donnie's beating the shit out of roadblock.
It was so hard to go to the FedEx.
You could try. You can see he was like, let's take it home because Tony's pissed.
He was very.
And roadblock apologize, but Tony was like, yeah, you can apologize all you want, but you ain't going to spit for real next time, are you, bitch?
Oh, fuck.
You call them a little fucking Oompa Loompa.
You like that little motherfucker spit on me.
What he said to me when he first came out back, I'm like, what the fuck happened?
He's like that little motherfucker spit on me.
Did we miss anything in the chat? I see a bunch of shit in the chat.
Kevin just like reiterating.
You found it. Yeah. Go back to the back of it.
He spat on him. He spat on him right there.
One more time.
Please get out. He's like, no, he spit on me.
Tony was waiting for the time to get a receipt.
Wait for this tag because watch he just he blatantly sees the tag.
He just takes the tag. He just takes it.
Bomb doesn't give it to him.
Tony takes this shit. Watch Tony just tags it.
Tony's like, tag me.
Yes.
Come over here. No, back to you.
Oh, what the hell?
Oh, my.
Oh, he turns him around.
He's just like, yeah, I get cut off here, guys.
My phone is slowly dying.
I hope it doesn't.
Well, that's OK, because I wanted to get into a ring wars anyway.
I got some battery life. I'm good.
It just is giving me the warning signs, which makes sense because we're at the two and a half hour mark now.
So I'm more and more stuff.
Ring Wars three coming up. Yeah.
I told you it's not a ring wars to push you guys were there.
You guys are fun. Ring Wars two.
Yeah, it's fun. Oh, do you know what made me so sad, though?
You lost the hyperboosting.
Not only just that.
Thirty seconds.
I was like, fuck, I want to see that fucking flip coin.
God damn it.
Well, here's the funny part. I'll tell you the story after that, but continue.
We get through the curtain.
I was like, I think it was eight minutes, whatever.
You just like cat. Like what?
You just pull up your phone.
Thirty five seconds.
Thirty five. I'm like, motherfucker.
The worst part, the worst goddamn part, I looked over to Eric during the one finger.
Eric contestants. I looked at Eric and I did the symbol and he looks at me and goes
two minutes. OK, we can stretch two minutes out of the rest.
We got left. Not a problem.
I look at Vaughn and Ray and they're arguing already.
This is when we're supposed to be going home.
I'm like, guys, guys, there's 30 more seconds of shit here.
Come on.
It's too late. Here's the best part. So that your guys is match because everything in Ring Wars is done by a flip of a coin.
I don't I booked the matches and I flip the coin to pick a wins.
If you were in the promoters chat for your match.
Boy, it went back and forth. So.
You guys won the original flip.
All right. Brown and Maine contested.
They won the flip.
Well, and BW got one coin flip.
Obviously, everybody gets one rebuttal. Yeah, it's my rule.
Well, Neil used it on your guys' match.
You guys won.
But then Neil was being nice because their their guys have been dropping like flies.
No light holiday. No loser kid.
And as you saw, Chad Casanova had an emergency and had a lead. Yeah.
So he gave it to them because he felt he felt crown deserve.
I wish you wouldn't told me that now I'm angry.
Why are you angry? You should think that's quite honorable.
Actually, I'm angry because it's honorable.
Yeah. Yeah.
Then you was being a good sport and he gave it up.
I'll be honest, Eric.
I said this promoter said it's awesome.
I love it when the coin flip comes around and they're all like, just some of the I'll tell you at the at the MPW show was the last time.
The MPW show was the last rebuttal that Landy was saving the last rebuttal.
He had his rebuttal.
Everybody knew there.
It was down to Tristan Kyle and Stormy Savage's match.
We used it on and you can blame Turner for this because Turner was like, I got to know, are you going to use your rebuttal?
What match are you going to use it on?
And he's like, I'm going to use it on the one you used.
He used it originally because Storm was set to beat Tristan Max Kyle.
And then Turner uses rebuttal interest in Max Kyle got to win while Randy for let's wrestle was sitting on his coin flip.
And you put Randy, he pushed Randy and Randy's like, fine, we'll do it right now.
He's like, right here.
Like, yeah, right here. So right at the MPW show before the show, I had a boss out of quarter because I didn't have my my toony that I do my flippin with my.
All right.
And Turner let Randy call it.
I thought he called heads.
I flipped it.
It was heads.
Like I said, I said this is the great.
That's why I was like, this is fucking awesome.
Like, you don't know.
And I'm like, I just want to show up, work my match, have the best match I can have and go home and everyone be safe about it.
What I get, I get some people are about, oh, I got to win my man.
Just just have a good match with Ray.
It's about the spirit of it.
I mean, like it's competition between companies, but all the companies are getting along and because I'm able to be the the quote unquote host of the deal.
Yeah. And I work for all the companies.
So like it's not like no one trusts me and they literally see me flip.
They literally literally right in front of Randy and Mike Turner, I flipped the coin for that one rebuttal.
Like I it's about it's not a I'm just true in the point that it's not about wins and losses about the entertainment portion of it.
You're delivering an entertainment entertaining show.
People liking it, you know, you saw the show that sold out at the ring was to over 150 people crammed in that fucking room.
And that's just what we had sold beforehand.
We had 150 beforehand.
So whatever the standing room was, you saw the people standing.
There's a fucking line to the bar.
It was not a good time.
But when we when I came out, when Kat and I came out, I literally came out and I was like, where the hell do I go to get to the ring?
There was a little Iowa spot.
So I walked down past the third row and then took that turn, but everybody wanted to go in a big loop.
I'm like, why don't everybody want to walk through the people that we had standing room only took us and get all the high fives.
I'm like, you're you're ruining your entrance.
The pop that we got was so massive.
I'm like, oh, my God, this no one can beat this.
And then didn't be brandy knows Joey Nails, Joey Nails.
He got a huge plot.
He literally had a section there that I called for him in the opening where they were all ignoring him.
And I was like, this is going to be a hot pop if they do it right.
And they nailed it.
You saw that from me, you and me, you and Jason.
I came up with it then to Dick.
You know, great abuses.
Let's be real here.
Oh, come on. The dropkick was my idea.
Yeah. I said cross body.
You change it to a dropkick.
Still my spot like, oh, you see the move side.
Happy. Great.
Also, the other big hot pop of the night was fucking deafening was the spear from Brandy.
Now, this is my god.
Yes, that was deafening.
I was on the call for that.
I said, I think it looked gross to he ran him over.
I'm like, oh, let's go.
Speaking of that, I'm assuming you can only get footage from the video right that you sell.
Correct. Here's what we do is we do release it later.
The DVD is your only way to get it for the first few months, like six months that it's out.
And then the video gets released to the organizations for use.
Now that Ring Wars 2 has happened, I've released the footage through Randy.
He's going to use it on limitless pages.
So you might see it on limited YouTube, but he's also released it to Turner for his unplugged.
He's going to use some of the old matches that were M.E.W. related.
If it's related to said company, so that MPW and we get released to Neil, he can use it.
He's got to reach out to Randy.
That's how I do it. So this way I get to sell the DVD, make a little money on the tape Trader series on.
That's what that's called. Any of the DVD productions from Ring Wars will be called the tape Trader series because there's only a limited amount of DVDs that get put out.
Once they're gone, they're gone. Yeah, I got it.
So the only way you can get it is either buying it, if there's something available or trading it.
Hence the tape Trader series. Yeah, I definitely get myself one just because not only that, like it was a great match, but wrestling first time in my hometown, you know, that means a lot.
So I definitely want to, you know, manage. Well, it's you know, Randy's currently editing it.
They did the commentary live. So that saves a portion of it.
You just got to edit it and burn up. It'll be a two to two to set. Just like the last one, just because the video quality is better on a two to set.
So yeah, it should be fun. Everybody will know when it comes out.
I'll obviously put up on the main Ring Wars page on Facebook and in respective group chats, things like that.
You guys will know. You'll also see it on the merch table. So what was your I know you you enjoy, you know, putting these matches together.
What was what was your favorite match of the night besides Brandeanos? Brand new and getting involved.
Actually, I enjoy putting all the matches together for me.
Like I prefer the booking aspect with slash with the promoting aspect of it, because it's where my creative juices can flow, which I have some big plans coming in a couple months.
So which starts March 14th. Yeah.
You'll all hear about it, guys. The big thing hasn't been done in Maine in some time, but it's pretty cool that you can tease us.
The ring wars three at least ring wars three has got some really high stakes matches.
Can't literally say anything right now. I did release something today because Jason Maverick won his match at ring wars to he wasn't for a medallion.
It was for a guaranteed match of his choosing. Yes. And today he picked he made the announcement today of who he wants.
The question is, does that person accept to come back to main ring wars to find out next week?
Hey, we'll play the announcement right here.
You know, a ring wars two.
I earned the opportunity for March 14th in Fairfield, Maine, at ring wars three to pick any opponent that I desired.
And there's only one man on my list.
I've wanted to step toe to toe with this man for a very, very long time for many different reasons, but one specific big cat.
So on March 14th, Fairfield, Maine, on ring wars three big country Jason Maverick versus the A double G.R.O. Mr. Aiden Agro.
That'd be a dope match.
If he now we have to hear her response to come to back in the main ring wars on Facebook next week for the response.
Oh, it'd be a no.
You're always not a P.U. double.
That's what I was going to say.
Make sure you put the.
So there's that.
There's also the other match I got announced that happened to got announced at the show.
You're right. That was the whole the pathway versus Alexander Lee and the partner, which was little Joey Nails.
Yeah. So I was really little Joey Nails is the pathway, which I'm actually kind of interested to watch.
Yeah. We can beat them both by himself.
Well, that was the point of the promo like Lee Vines.
He can beat them both by himself.
So he they made him put his money where his mouth is and say, well, let him pick the partner.
And they did the Joey Nails do a top rope fucking headbutt.
Well, there'll be room in the Fairfield Community Center for that on March 14th.
We can actually have a ceiling. That ceiling was so low.
I love that. That building is cool as hell. I love it.
It's very intimate building.
Yeah, I I normally do that step up on the top rope for my the entrance.
And I was like duck in my head like I'm going to crack my head in my head.
I did. I think I said that in the match, Mike, Nick's next.
Watch your head next. Yeah.
I was like, oh, shit.
No, seriously, I get up there and I can see I didn't know I could hit the chat button here.
Hammering maybe maybe rap.
No. Oh, that's your captain. Yeah.
That's our YouTube. Yeah.
Oh, there you go. Oh, no.
I got to get a button.
His phone died. I said maybe rap.
Oh, no, there is. OK. I'm glad.
I hit the bag button by accident because my fingers.
Oh, sorry.
Fucking got.
I went to the chat thing. I was just for us.
I didn't know that I was a group that actual chat that pops in.
I went to hit the button and my sausage figures and ended up hitting the bag button.
It took me out. I'm like, son of a bitch.
By the way, shout out to Kaiju Pro in Connecticut.
Been wearing the hat all night. So shout out to Ring Wars two.
Thanks. And I want three.
That's a hairline.
Get your hair.
Every more is had over there.
You guys can get so I was shocked that the first one was had so quick.
This one did not sell as quickly.
I'm surprised. Yeah.
I know it's a ladybug, but does that not look like the road warriors like shoulder pads on his chair behind his chair?
Yeah, they do.
Was there anything in the chat we didn't hit up? They did it. People asked.
I think we got one, two, and three. I think we had everything actually.
So I love the idea of ring wars. I think that's awesome.
Happy that everybody enjoys it. Not just the fans, the wrestlers, too.
They think it's a breath of fresh air.
And the fact that everything's done by a flip of a coin makes it refreshing. You never know.
And also the crowds come because they're anticipating it to be a competition.
And also there's entertainment value, you know, and there is a point to the medallions, obviously, to win the win, the actual event, each respective event.
But I will give you this tidbit.
Not this coming show, but over the next couple of shows, there will be titles eventually coming to ring wars, since everybody really wants titles.
Ring wars. Will we ever see titles or maybe?
You will. And I can't give out the deets of how we're crowning the grand champion.
But you know, you have to have more history to find out.
Since Kat and I have to ask this question, since we are what we are, will there be tag titles?
Yes.
Will there be a hardcore title?
No.
I'm just fucking with you. That's just funny.
I think because our shows are very family oriented and B, I don't want to risk someone breaking it.
I can do family friendly hardcore.
We are. I am planning the grand champion and the grand tag champions.
I know you can't give that many deets.
Also, I will announce here that I have different medallions to for the winners of each event that we're going to award.
That's the first ring wars.
And me, W one and ring wars to obviously let's wrestle run.
We're going to award those to the respective promotional winners.
Every more story.
I just ordered that are coming in that will be given to the promotional leader at the event.
So because of that, we will see what they able to do with those medallions.
I was going to say, so you probably can't get into more detail that.
But I'm assuming if there is titles involved, it means that the only ones that the ones that have the majority of the medallions will get those title shots.
Yeah. Well, what is the winner of the event?
They get the they will get a medallion for winning the event.
So the ring wars one, like I said, was me, W ring wars to was let's wrestle.
So at ring wars three, we're going to give them their respective medallion for their promotion because they won the event with that medallion.
They'll get to do some with that medallion, but it's up to them when they use it and how they can designate and nominate how they use it.
We'll explain all that every more three.
You got to be there to find out. All right. I got to be there.
I got to see it. Even I don't know if we're booked or not. I don't think we are.
But I just don't be like this guy be right down the street and not come to an amazing event.
And he said, who knows?
I think I'll probably definitely be there just because, you know, it's a great venue.
I love the venue. I love the venue, but you never know.
You like talent might not. I might go just to shoot commentary again because that was fun.
I know you lucky bastard. I saw you on commentary. You can get on there with the tech start.
And I'm just next to Texas. Texas like down there.
It's good. I was like, oh crap. OK, what's up?
They would be a ring wars is what you can be.
You can still enjoy it just as much as the fans can come.
You never know. And see, you should be happy also there, JP, that I didn't replace Lou Jacobs.
Lou Jacobs in the look, check, ask that match was cursed. It was.
You could have if you can. You never know. Yeah.
You could have. We had two people. I did your ass.
Still, I was like, yeah, my child was sick and I wasn't planning on a good sickness.
And then people were bugging me like I should have done the I should have went in.
I'm like, no, I'm only this match is cursed. I believe was in it was in it.
I do think I would probably would have thrown you in there to let you have the spot.
But like also, I was like, OK, they're dropping like flies.
I don't want to have it. I don't want to even touch this.
I'll touch it and blow up my other quad knowing what happens.
This is why I knew I got in this match. Temptation with bugging me should not.
Speaking of that, I do see you're in there on the poster for Ring Wars three.
I will be competing at Ring Wars three by popular demand.
People were bugging me that I was not at the ring wars to.
I was at ring wars one because I was sponsored to be there.
So I kind of had to be. But so ring wars two, I did not need to be.
There was plenty of talent. There were seven matches.
One was even one match was a bonus that got added.
And look what I worked out for Jason Maverick.
But this one I told people I would be there.
Front row is actually halfway sold out already.
And it's not even been a week. The show was Saturday.
And literally by today, I literally only have there was 52 front row seats.
I have 25 left. Wow.
Already. So it's catching fire and why are the wing wars catching fire right now,
which is great because it's not just great for for ring wars itself as a competition.
But it's great for all the promotions that are taking part in it because it's
getting eyes on them that normally may not see them.
Right. Or or it's getting the point of all these fans from different promotions
coming together to watch a great event.
And it's it's companies versus other companies, organizations battling out.
See who's the best.
Can you get better? Yeah, that's that's how much more video game can you want?
You know, I mean, what I do love is you mentioned the coin flip, too.
It's not like a lot of times people walk into these situations seeing like, OK,
let's wrestle. Everyone knows what's what's wrestle.
Not everyone may know MPW, but MPW has got as good a chance of winning their stuff
as let's wrestle or right or crown or that's what I said.
But maybe you guys like maybe we would have saw that come.
Yeah, exactly.
We were literally we were literally two and oh against them.
They keep kicking me in the deck.
Why? Why do they keep kicking me in the deck?
I got a little last rub some dirt on it in the face and in the back of the game.
Yeah. All right.
My question though is we can talk about this more off air.
Yeah. Is there a possibility that per sessions could sponsor help sponsor ring wars?
You can for sure.
Anybody is able depends on what you want to sponsor.
You can sponsor wrestlers or you sponsor a match.
Obviously, a match is a lot more expensive, but you can sponsor wrestlers in general
or you can sponsor a match all depends on what you want to do.
And those have different variables involved.
Obviously, a match is much more. Oh, yeah.
Because as you're doing well, it also depends on the amount of people.
So there's multiple variables.
If it's like a singles match is probably going to be cheaper.
Also depends on who you have in the match.
Like so if you if you were to have just like a bunch of locals wrestling each other,
it's not going to be too expensive.
But if you had, let's say, I don't know, you brought up Tony Atlas to wrestle in your sponsor.
Obviously, the pay rate is going to have to go up for the sponsor.
See what I mean?
I'm calling a name or someone that's high profile that's done something like, oh, I want to have Anthony Green in this match.
OK, well, you can do what I can do for you, but it's not going to be cheap.
So I'm going to Shane Douglas on the phone.
You want to use your voice from our all.
Let's go see baby up here. OK, well, you want to pay his pay rate.
I'll let you know.
Somebody may get a break because it's me talking to him.
But like you're not going to get a huge break because I also got to get something out of that.
You know what I mean?
Like if you're getting a match, I have to make sure like I am not overbooking either.
My max cap for matches is seven.
Yeah. So so we don't end up in a vacation land situation or 14 matches on the show.
The show was great.
We're doing more. It was everybody was supposed to go eight minutes.
Half the matches went over half the matches went short, but three went a little long.
I know two went one one went on time.
Two went way over. And the rest went short.
But the show still ended. It started like two minutes off on time.
We started at six thirty two and ended at eight fifty nine.
And my goal was in by nine. So we were right on point.
So I think only one seven matches, eight minutes apiece.
That's redacted pro wrestling to you.
It's the timing is a thing.
Also, we rent the fairfields rented by the hour.
Yeah. So we have to be out of there by a certain time.
Yeah. You didn't want to go nine hours into a right.
Yeah. Yeah.
You actually have to get out by 10. You know what I mean?
Yeah. We actually have a decent made event, but it was burnt out from the last three and a half hours of wrestling.
They're like, we don't care anymore.
Well, that's the thing, too. Like you saw, like people were by the end, like when Tony went out, like, like, that's why I left everybody on the second half for a reason.
Storm and Jay and Nails were the were the local guys like storms from Paul Myra and nails over right down the street.
So they had a lot of people there for them. And then obviously, Tony. Yeah.
So that's why I left them on the second half on purpose so that people wouldn't leave.
We still lost like out of out of 100 percent. We probably lost at intermission when we came back, like maybe 10 percent of the crowd, which is little.
Yeah. Comparative in the current scheme of things. But we still lost some.
So my goal is to not lose them in seven matches is a lot.
But if they're all eight minutes, it's not so bad. We crammed.
We crammed. We still did a 20 minute intermission. 22 minutes.
Something like that. So, yeah, I think this question. Yes, by the way, it still will be a thing. I was talking to Vaughn about it at the last show.
Yeah. And he at the ring wars, he told me it's still going to be a thing, too.
He's just he's just he's reworking now because of because of the fact that they lost a couple of people and they lost a venue.
And they were the only thing they have right now is Van Buren at the moment. Yeah.
They were going to run. They're going to start running out of the old Prescott Convention Center. That's the bar area.
Yeah. They were all.
I think that's the first session to have to sponsor JP to get on the show.
No, fuck that person. It's us.
Kevin, keep asking. But it's not up to me. As you all know, it's about nominations from the company.
The company doesn't nominate you. I don't book it. That's true.
That's just how it is. I don't think that people I book are the staff, which is like my announcer, my referees.
That's the case. I already know the answer. So that's all right.
I mean, the reason why I have to be nominated is that it's not on me so that people won't book me.
I don't book anybody. The only people I book is the referees and the announcer in and an alternate.
Sometimes I book an alternate just because someone don't show up. I have one.
But I was the alternate this last show and I chose not to wrestle. I could have, but I didn't need to.
We lost two people, but it was all one match. We saw three people in the match, so I didn't bother.
So like I rather them have the spot than me. I get booked on every show as it is.
So the only ones that don't usually work are the airy shows. So those are Southern Maine. I'm cool with that.
It is what it is. But I don't I don't need to wrestle all the time. I literally wrestled the very next day in the two days, two days.
The previous weekend, I wrestled three days, three days out of two weeks. I'm good.
Speaking of that, do you want to talk about your little beef with Alexander Lee at Let's Russell?
Yeah, hopefully my phone don't die, but if it does, it does.
Yeah, so I I end up like I understand where Alexander Lee was coming from when a lot when McCarthy disappeared.
I came from a tag team where my partner had to stop wrestling, not by choice, physically couldn't.
So I lost my partner and wasn't able to keep running with the tag belts, which we both had.
We had the Let's Russell tag belts for the longest time.
And we were the first me and Brandy were the first time ever. Let's Russell tag champs and the longest reigning.
And then Alexander Lee was close to that. He's getting close to being the longest reigning.
And McCarthy was gone. So it's either a they had to strip the belts or a B.I. to fill in.
And I filled in for Alexander Lee. We were the Vets Club.
We ran with that. And then this last show, he blames me for losing the belts.
I got hit with a buoy and then took the classic course finish and couldn't kick out.
Obviously, if you hit with a buoy, it's not exactly the softest thing on the planet.
So he blamed me and I honestly blame him. I told him not to bring the buoy out.
He brought it out anyway. He always wants to bring that thing out.
If I'm the classic core and I have a chance to use it when the referee is knocked down, I would use it, too.
I just got to be on the receiving end. So I lost the belts for the team.
I'll take that. But he feels I lost his belt. Those were his belts.
Those are his and McCarthy's belts. They were never mine in his.
They were his belts that him and McCarthy had as POS. And I lost them.
McCarthy hasn't been heard from in forever. He's moved on.
And I heard he's doing great and happy for him. Yep. I think Ben just didn't move on.
He couldn't let go. And instead of backing me up as a friend and doing what needed to be done.
And supporting me, he got mad at me and blamed me. And that's fine. I lost them.
Sure did. I got pinned after I got hit with a buoy and took the whatever they call it, the high load or whatever move they call it, whatever they call it.
The other one. I got hit with that too.
Yeah, I got hit with that too.
I lost. I lost. Cool. Maybe not bring a weapon to ringside that they can use on you when they're freeze down.
Weapons are not, I mean, I get it if you're in a hardcore match like this guy over here, he likes his weapons.
So that's fine when you're in a hardcore match, but I'm not, I'm old. I'm almost 40 years old.
Yeah, when I was younger, thanks. You wanted me to do that. You want me to do that now?
My first ever match that involved weapons was with you.
Yeah, I know. I hucked a trash can at you from one corner of the ring to the other.
He's been trying to find it. I was also younger at the time. I literally was in one corner of the ring on the apron and I hucked it over my head and hit you in the face.
No, you threw it at Ricky.
Yeah, you threw it at Ricky.
I got some distance, but I was younger. But my point being is, yeah, I lost the belts, but it wasn't all my fault. He brought a buoy. They used it when the ref was out.
Now Ben's blaming me. So I was going to really want to blame me. That's cool, but it's not all my fault. See, I'm on apron.
Ignore young watch me. Huck this son, bitch.
He has this son. Literally is how it starts. The bell rings. And as soon as the bell rings, he immediately throws it.
The best part is I didn't tell them I was going to do.
No, we had no idea how it started.
I was like, catch, bitch.
You went too far. Go back. Go back a little more.
You're going.
I'm going to be like, oh shit, balls out.
I was going to take a gut wrench power bomb on said trash can.
You're welcome.
And you didn't call. I don't think you called it either. It was just right here. You were just like.
You're tiny enough. You could take it.
Back then, you couldn't do it. You're too dumpy.
Oh, yeah. I had a big, I had a big like nice little like cut on the side of my like ribs from that.
I have good times.
But what I remember is hooking you up to a chain and to the corner of the rope.
Yeah, I couldn't get out. You tied me to a chain to the post so I couldn't get back. Couldn't help.
Bombing. You guys forgot bomb. He was like stuck in a ladder.
That was actually that was reboot, right?
That was the fan interactive show, right? Yeah, because it was the only match that got a time vote.
So you made the crowd cheer for the winning vote, which it was like between last man standing or.
Yes, we did. We did. I don't know if you guys ever heard of it. We did a show for an IDB called Reboot.
What it was, it was a fan voted show. We had the IDB fan nation page.
And the only way to vote is you have to be on the fan nation page.
We would drop the match graphic. And much like I did with the fans choice for Ring Wars,
you had a comment on the fan nation page, on the graphic, which one you voted for.
And we would tally the votes. That's where I stole that idea for fans choice.
I just recycled one of my old ideas. And we would put the graphic up like here's like this.
Who do you want to see this person face and then be whoever the person is and then their opponents?
Or what type of match you want to see these two guys go at it and you pick A, B, C or D.
And people voted. It was really cool. A super interactive show. People loved it.
That's awesome. While he's finding that you want to hit your plug before your phone dies, you know, where we can.
I got 10 percent left. Ring Wars 3, March 14th, Fairfield Community Center.
Like I said, tickets are on sale now. Hit up main ring wars on Facebook.
Half the front row is gone. So we have 25 left and then the rest of its all general mission, which is fifteen dollars a piece.
It's a 300 seat venue. So we have plenty of space this time, unlike Ring Wars 2 when we're crammed in a little tiny room.
There's also an advantage in ASEM. So we have plenty of heights. We use the third row. I mean, third rope. Excuse me.
So we have plenty of space. It'll be great. There will be food on hand.
Sadly, there's no booze. We don't have an alcohol license. That's the only thing that people are going to miss from the ring wars, too, is the bar in the room.
There's no booze you know of. We can't have it in the venue at all.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, unless we want to lose the when we lose the venue, which is you can only be limited by righted by certain people.
Now, I literally talked to them today. I was at the dojo talking with Randy when they called me.
And luckily, the lady saw that I called and was calling me back when the ladies recognized my name because I'd rented there for like, like I said, nine years.
Yeah. Over nine years I ran in there. So she called me back. Hey, is this Eric? Yeah. Oh, hey, I saw you called.
You were inquiring about a date and all about me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She is. I just remember your name and I know you used to run here all the time. I want to make sure I call you back. Thank you.
So it's nice of them to know that they still remember me down there. Yeah, that's so that's what I'm running into now, too, is a lot of people are remembering me.
We went posturing for Ring Wars to me and Mo Tardy, the ref.
He helped me out with the Elizabeth's writing Pistfield meet when I did some street work.
He was putting up flyers and for Ring Wars to and someone asked what Ring Wars to was and who ran it.
And they said my name and someone was like, oh, Eric's bad running shows.
I'm like, I'm hosting shows. Yes. I don't own anything. I it's a hosting thing.
So I never know. You're the promoter. I know I'm the host. This is a competition. There's no owning anything.
I own nothing like I bring like I have the merchandise. I own that till I sell it.
That's what I own. The medallions until someone wins them, you know, and wants to buy one as a souvenir.
Sure. Like I don't I don't own anything like the ring doesn't belong to me.
The graphics work. I pay someone to make that. So but technically they technically own it.
Unless I have a whole LLC thing go on with the ring more stuff.
But the ring was label stays the same. But it changes with each event.
As you notice from the ring wars, one hat he's wearing to the ring wars, two hat that you're wearing.
The ring wars, three hat that I'm wearing. Right. Pretty dope.
They all said the ring war stays the same, but there's a change.
And like I said, like there's a theme with every one of them, which is fantastic.
And JP keeps trying to steal Dylan Nix's spot here.
Oh, is it?
But yeah, you guys are more than welcome to come to ring wars three if you want to.
Like I said, the only way you're booked is if you're nominated or like if someone cancels, I can use you as an alternate.
Right now we do have an alternate booked for ring wars three because I said I would do it.
And that's primer primer wasn't on the second ring wars in the first.
So Johnny primer is the alternate for ring wars three.
But you are welcome to come and hang out.
And we see at the conference room to at ring wars three for Fairfield, the conference room we change in.
So we got space. Yeah. You know, we're not crammed in all that backspace there.
Like we are in Palmyra. We got a big conference room to change in.
So we got the normal usual accoutrement of space.
Somebody else doesn't like to pay for that space because they're cheap.
I did because I want to make sure we're comfortable.
Like that's why I do the extra thing.
Like I don't know if some of you notice like I didn't I didn't with the bonuses.
Like some people get bonuses for it in their time and all the bullet points.
And I also do a digital media bonus with my shows.
I do a digital media bonus.
My I've learned how to use the analytics on the Facebook pages and it tells me who shares the most and comments, reacts and stuff.
Believe it or not, the camera people do the most.
So Cindy, who's my who does all my photography and Tyler, who did a bunch.
They got a digital media bonus.
I believe Dylan Nicks up here got one too.
You weren't expecting that, were you?
No, I wasn't. Pleasant, pleasant though, isn't it?
I just here's the thing.
I've always said this. I'm going to be on a show.
I want to promote it and I want people to be there.
So I'm just going to go every time I see some.
I'm like, you know, it's it's self-promotion as much as it is promoting the show because like I want.
People can see awesome wrestling, but I want people to come see me wrestle also.
Thank you. The fact that I have to have incentives for people to share stuff.
It's kind of crazy. I must have missed a few because I know I've shared.
I did the top five.
OK, it tells me the top like six or seven.
I gave the top five bonuses, which Joey Nails got one.
Obviously, he's got quite the reach.
He got one.
I think the other person that got one was Jason Maverick.
Great. So it just tells you like that's why I tell people, please share this.
It takes 10 seconds, not even get the share button.
And I literally post a link and usually in the in the town staff chats so that people go, oh, I just hit this.
It takes two to share, but then you're done.
That's all I mean, I do the same thing with lots to or limitless is just like share.
Yeah, I mean, it doesn't hurt to share it.
If anything, it's going to help you any if you end up on being on the show, it's going to give you more crowd.
Yeah, hopefully. That's the whole point.
It's the same ideology with posturing.
The ideology was for whatever you post, you put up one person sees it and goes, I mean, it's great.
It'd be great. But it doesn't work out that way.
But yes, your hope, you know, and right now we're doing pretty good.
We take a sales like I said, we're at 25 front row left and it's not it's well now it's officially been a week.
It is not technically Saturday.
But like the fact that like just the show was last Saturday and we sold that many tickets to now.
And then without really the big push on the Internet, we haven't even dropped any matches yet.
There's the one match announcement which we did, which was at the show, which is the Joey Nails, Alexander Levers, the pathway.
And then you just saw the promo I posted just before I got on the processions here.
Podcasts. It was the Jason Maverick calling out Agro.
That question is, Agro, respond and I will tell you this.
He has responded. You got to wait to find out.
Oh, let's see if he's a P.U. double S.
Wow. Oh, shit.
We're at midnight. I told you we have three hours.
The clock stopped.
We didn't hit everything, but we got a big chunk of stuff.
We got a big chunk of stuff.
Well, you said you wanted to do one more ring wars oriented closer to the date.
And I said I'm down. So you do have to be questions you can ask them then.
But we're going to do all that when we get to the ring.
We're the closer and worse three, which would be like the week before the funny thing is we still haven't even covered your let's.
And all that stuff.
Twenty one years that the last of the MPW and EW weekend.
Twenty one year anniversary doing this stupid shit.
The legacy.
The let's the where's the people for money for 21 years.
The road where you had what it was 13 and now for the long time.
The street. Yeah.
Twenty four now.
We have lost the ace in Herman that was supposed to be my 25th if I'd won the whole stipulation was when I faced ace and Herman us 24 now.
And if I beat him, I got his spot in in Limitless and Yarmouth.
Oh, imagine the tournament was supposed to be the big thing.
And a lot of people thought I was going to beat him because I had been undefeated.
Like I was about to take AC baby spot and he's like, yeah, he's like, you're not taking my spot for me.
No way. No how.
Because I'd never been to Yarmouth.
Yeah. So like the biggest thing was, is like, I'm taking a spot.
And somebody else I was going to beat him until he beat me and he killed Dave Dyer to in the process.
I was going to say we got to talk about that next time, because I would love to know about the street.
I'm by accident.
And the the table spot at the end of that match with you and this.
Yeah, I was so angry that you don't want to if you'd want when you get it, when we do talk about it, you watch him back in the video, the table hits me in the side of the fucking head.
It gave me a concussion.
Really?
It hit a fan in the front row.
All right.
We mean, a sort of run of it.
I know.
I didn't know you had you got a concussion.
Table whacked me in the head.
Wow.
Yeah.
And Ace was not feeling good already.
He was recovering from the flu.
And he he he he he tackled me through it.
A, the table slid, which we we should have the table close to the ring, but also B, it was not the right type of table.
The breakaway tables that you see, like the cheap ones, those are the ones that people use.
Or why did I think it was a table?
Well, I call it a table.
But yeah, it's a door.
Yeah, it was a door.
Yeah, that's why we're using it as a table spot.
So that's why I call it the table.
The table we use is not one of the easy doors you get like the cheap flimsy doors you'd have like on a bedroom.
Yeah, they're like the door you would have on your front door or back door type of door.
That's why it didn't break so easy.
Jesus.
They thought it would because we're two big dudes and we're falling out of the ring through it.
But no, I'd love to hear that.
They survived.
So we'll definitely talk.
We didn't.
We were in pain.
That's why we were laying there.
We were talking.
If you ever get to see the video, we're talking on the floor.
See, I thought you hit your head off the floor at first because I was there.
I thought you hit because of my angle.
Doorwagging as well to go to table.
The table slipped out and I thought both you went for the table.
I think the finish would have been a lot more smoother.
But because it didn't, it made the match like all everything we built up to the match, which was great.
Went to shit because of that finish, which was super frustrating.
I think it's OK.
Finish.
But yeah, they definitely probably would.
Well, the point was, we're supposed to both fall.
I'll tell you how it's supposed to happen.
We're supposed to fall through the table.
And then we both crawl our way to the ring and very Apollo Creed, Rocky Balboa, as we're both pulling our way up.
And ace pulls himself into the ring last minute.
And I don't.
That's how it was that that would be cool.
Yeah, we both fell through that big ass table door table.
Table door set up a table.
That's how you always say the table spot or whatever wrestling terminology bullshit.
Yeah, it's all.
But anyway, as you will talk more about that next time.
Let me know.
Yeah.
So you guys are like, we have so much more.
I'm like, it's been three hours.
We said we were going to throw three hours and we went three hours anyway.
We went three hours and eight minutes now.
I was going to say we can keep going and keep going, keep going.
But it's like it's the eventually people are going to be cutting to do their cat.
But isn't the pieces like that?
So I can see it in his eyes.
Oh, yeah.
Snippets days with Eric Johnson.
I'll see him all posted like within the next couple of days.
Like, why is there a video of me?
Oh, yeah.
He's like, I got this and I got that and I got this.
Especially the one with Tony slapping the shit out of that.
That one's already on top of that thing up right now.
So that's going to be on Monday.
First thing Monday morning, you're going to see that video and it's going to be
everybody for action.
You saw him.
But on me, my little girl.
Oh, shit.
Well, thank you, Eric.
I'm excited for Ring Wars three.
We definitely have you on before then.
We can go over more ring wars.
Shit may be more prepared.
You have a month this time, kids.
Come on now.
Hey, I already have my questions.
Mr.
O'Reilly was the one that said the yet tons didn't seem like he had tons.
Literally was coming up with shit.
JP literally didn't stop talking.
I know.
I'm just giving shit.
Fuck you.
Oh, shit.
Well, thank you again, Eric.
Again, Ring Wars three, March 14th, Fairfield.
Yeah, awesome.
I want to I really want to get I hate the fact that I'll profits on it, but you know,
hey, whatever.
Hey, it's just hometown.
I'm fucking with them.
I don't care.
March 14th, Fairfield, Maine.
Get your tickets.
Ring Wars, Ring Wars on Facebook.
Main ring was Facebook or there's my phone number is on the actual poster now so people
can text and call me.
There you go.
Multiple forms of payment.
Oh, the following getcha.
Perfect.
Also, if you see a poster in a while, there'll be a barcode like this on it.
That's a little scary.
There you go.
Even better.
You are code, not barcode.
But I get it.
I get what you're saying.
I'm sorry.
You know what?
Now, that's that's enough out of you.
Scan the QR code.
It takes you right to the main ring wars Facebook page.
Can't get in.
There's a message button right at the top when you scan it.
So you pop a message and then it sends you right to someone who will hit up, get you
all situated for tickets.
Perfect.
So send them away.
Let's get them done.
Let's sell.
Let's sell his mug out.
It's Fairfield.
Fairfield is always a great venue.
Yeah.
Yes.
And there's a reason why, like I said, you guys cannot wait to this announcement at the
next show.
Like you got to be there at main ring wars three for this announcement.
You're going to be like shit in your pants.
You're like, what?
I'll leave it on this note.
Has anybody ever seen World War three?
There's so many like the world worth leaving at that.
No, it's it.
It's only that's only wait.
Oh no.
Coming soon.
Never know.
Stay tuned, guys.
What is he talking about?
Have a good one.
See you next time.
That's how you always look at the space right now.
He's just like, you know, he's so excited.
He just he just he just came a little in his face.
Do not say what it is.
Put it in the private chat.
Make me guess.
OK.
I don't know if I'm right, but it's me afterwards.
We're working toward it, but you we got to build it up from from ring wars three.
So until next time, till next time.
Thank you again, Eric.
You have a good night to.
All right.
Everyone, you fucking plugs, let's get out of here.
Look at the fucking chat.
Wait, don't we have like another hour of stuff to do here?
No, you missed it, bitch.
OK.
You guys want to talk about the W the W and T.A.W.
releases.
Oh, I didn't see those.
Yes.
I didn't see those.
Blair Davenport, Paul Ellering, Sonya Deville, Saturday.
When did this happen?
Like in the last two hours?
I didn't know.
Yes.
Pull it up.
I had it up at WrestleZone here.
Hold on.
WrestleZone to do Authors of Pain released by WWE.
This is two minutes ago.
Paul Ellering released by WWE.
I saw Sonya Deville to is somewhere else.
That was Sean Ross Sapp is actually got I come through and said that was on Twitter.
Also, Bear Boulder has been released from 80 years ago.
Twitter has been released from a W for domestic violence.
You got to see Joe.
Yeah.
There goes the iron savages.
That was, of course, one half of Bear Country.
If you guys remember a country with Joe, that'd be bulk.
Yeah, because he got injured.
Yeah.
Joe's injured right now and he's got a bad back.
He's rehabbing that.
Well, Joe, we like Joe.
Yeah, Tommy was just kind of kicking around.
I guess him and his girl got into something and he went out.
I ain't going deeper into it.
Yeah.
I didn't even know about the band.
This happened within, I mean, not the band, but the releases.
Releases.
This all happened the last three hours.
Seriously.
I was literally, as you guys are talking, I was listening, but I was scanning.
I scanned wrestling sites.
I happened to scan WrestleZone.
I saw WrestleZone on Facebook.
They're like, oh, this person got released.
This person got released.
I was like, what the hell's happening?
So yeah, the Authors of Pain, Paul L. Ring, they're all gone.
Blair Davenport's gone.
Cedric Alexander's gone.
There might be more.
Let's see if I can find more.
I knew they released an NXT person.
I can't remember who it was.
Yeah, that was the Australian dude, right?
Yeah.
Because Triple H was like, oh, we're not going to see anything about him.
Oh, here we go.
Reddit.
We love Reddit.
All right.
So Cedric Alexander, Paul L. Ring.
Yeah, your screen.
So, oh, Jesus Christ.
You're going to make me do shit here.
Okay, hold on.
I was going to end this bit, but now you make it.
Now I'm like, holy shit.
Yeah, shit happens, man.
Share screen.
Okay.
Let's see if I can figure it out.
Fine.
Do the thing, Julie.
There you go.
Share.
I think I did that right.
Yeah.
So Cedric, Paul, Authors of Pain, Sunday DeVille, and Blair Davenport.
That's what we got so far.
It is the beginning of the year.
They do release people in the beginning.
Yeah.
I forgot a complete forgot about that.
Sonya is a head scratcher.
They just got her back.
Cedric Alexander, though, may end up over in a W with the Hurston to kids.
So that might not be too bad for him.
So.
Wow.
Yeah.
It just.
Wow.
Kind of crazy.
I'm tired.
I need to go to bed.
All right.
Let's do a plug down.
I'm going to do a plug down.
Do you have any plugs?
I do, but they're not till March.
Confirmed for sure.
The MPW one year anniversary show.
Are you not doing anything?
I was going to say, are we going to work for the MPW show?
Right.
Yeah.
I think we're taking on doofus and dingus again.
Okay.
It is confirmed.
The show's confirmed.
I don't know what the card is as far as anything right now.
Currently.
The last MPW show is currently an editing production.
So I have all the footage.
I'm editing it.
No wonder why it takes forever.
Yeah.
All right.
You can blame Randy Harver for waiting to drop.
Randy Harver.
Who was Harver?
Yeah.
I ever drop boxing into me.
What is it?
Friday?
I got a Wednesday.
I got a Friday.
You need my help to let you know about your plugs?
You can find JP O'Reilly on Facebook.
You keep saying that people are going to start searching.
Yeah, bro.
I hope something.
I hope something pops up.
I'm going to go look later.
Anyways.
Also before, before you start plugging.
Awesome on all the guys that hung out for most of the show.
We stayed between six and like 10 viewers the whole time.
So thank you guys so much for fucking hanging out.
That was awesome.
But continue with your plugs.
Yeah.
JP O'Reilly on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, Twitter X.
Going to give it to you.
Do you have a pro wrestling tease?
I don't use it anymore.
I don't know if you can actually search it by its, if you just type in JP O'Reilly on
T springs spring, it should pop up.
Okay.
URL.
If I shared the URL anywhere, it's like a whole weird ass username browser thing.
But yeah.
And then show me ring wars.
Find me ring wars, MPW that 100% for MPW ring war, MPW 15th.
The weekend after I have doing any of you in March.
Yes.
Yeah.
I got a pulling calendar.
I guess.
Oh, I guess.
I guess it was the turn off because cat isn't booked at all for the last couple of months
of that.
You know, you got to talk to the boss, man.
I don't know what I fucking did.
Um, March 7th, Friday, Gino's thought of my favorite fucking place.
We're going to do things that can't speak of at a PG setting.
I say a bunch of grotesque.
Where are we twisting some fucking dicks?
Okay.
Um, uh, the eighth, I have new world wrestling and row and Rhode Island.
Uh, 15th I have MPW in old town.
And then the 22nd I have me w and Franklin.
There you go.
Of bar.
These are all March dates.
I have nothing.
Um, can't do anything this month or until then I have a lot of fucking shit happening
right now.
Yeah, I have, Oh God, what am I going on?
Uh, next week is skips.
Yeah.
Skip some Buxton.
That'd be fun.
I'm taking on one blade at bend it again.
So, uh, blade Nios have fun matches.
I'm actually looking forward to it again.
It's we always have a good time.
Uh, I'm not looking forward to hearing Jesse, no one scream, but that's just, you know,
you have to take one with the other, I guess.
Uh, then, uh, what else we got coming up?
Uh, and EW and MPW both coming up.
Um, I will be at an EW solo.
I'm taking on Johnny Pierce.
Uh, that is a tall man.
He's a very big man.
I have to, I will figure out how to suplex him.
I don't know how, but I'll figure it out.
Good luck.
I couldn't even do it.
I'll grab his dick.
Dude.
Uh, I just said, I just remember kids remember this leverage plus force equals suplex.
So yes, all of a sudden Dylan Nix is a mathematician or physics or fucking physicists, man.
It's basic physics.
I had to, Hey, it becomes zoologist.
I did have to take a physics class.
All right.
I got through it with a C plus.
Shit.
At least it's average.
My name is not Sheldon.
All right.
Anyway, so yes, I mean, W with Johnny Pierce and PW, the, the, um, uh, show, uh, uh, what
am I thinking here?
What's the word?
My name is Aaron.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm looking for the goddamn name.
I'm trying to think of the anniversary show.
There we go.
Um, it'll be big cat, the homeboy here to my right.
Right. And, uh, I taking on the pathway and, uh, again, and that'll be for the titles
and we will win those things back.
And, um, yeah.
So, and then in March, so I think there's a crown of main date.
Um, I'd have to double check on that and I've heard what we're doing.
I don't know if I can spoil it yet.
I think I have to wait for it to be official.
No, no, no, no, I'm not spoiling nothing.
I'm just saying I've heard it.
I kind of know what's going on, but I have to wait for the credit main bosses to say
I can say it.
So, yeah.
Uh, so credit me.
If you guys are up in North main, come check us out when we're up there.
Uh, the wild will be happy to see y'all.
Uh, big cat, Tyler Adams and all social media platforms at D O T D Nix.
As well as, uh, as well as progress and process.
Yeah.
Yeah, big cat, Tyler Adams on Instagram and tick tock Tyler Adams on Facebook
and X as well as pro wrestling teas.
Uh, currently right now I don't got anything going on with the rest of February.
Uh, however, um, March, of course, got, uh, of course, like Dylan, they said MPW,
uh, not booked for MEW, a crown I'm waiting on.
I've been asked to do Phoenix pro.
What day is that?
March 8th.
Uh, I don't think I told him your career.
I suggest you know, I've worked worse.
We've worked for 12 people in New York.
It's not about the fucking people.
I know who runs it.
I was like the paid for, for I know engine. Otherwise we're going to go into the two fucking hours.
I know because I'm assuming that crown is probably going to be running that date.
So yeah, I'd much rather go to crown.
Yeah.
So I'm waiting for them to say, um, other than that, yeah, I don't have me W kick.
Get back to me.
I would like to wrestle.
Oh, yeah.
Well, JP, by the way, you didn't mention it all today.
You notice my picture is like way a bazillion times better, right?
Yeah. It's all it's on this.
Yeah. I have a 4k camera.
Now you asshole.
You still look ugly in it.
I will slap you with my dick.
I'm the aquatic cock.
I will handle it.
Let me in the house while you're asleep.
Oh shit.
Let's get out of here.
We got about a month and a half.
So you better time snapping.
You better, you better go our Robin armored truck then.
Okay.
We're going to bed now.
We're doing this podcast.
It's almost been four hours.
I don't know if I can even upload this.
Uh, we'll catch guys, catch you next week.
Um, next week.
I don't think we got any guests yet.
So we'll see.
Maybe Jason Maverick.
I don't know.
Well, what's next?
What's next Friday?
I feel I'm doing something next Friday.
I don't know.
I have nothing to March.
Uh, we'll see.
Next Friday is probably normal.
I don't know.
If Levi's on, we might have Joey nails.
Well, you can all have fun on that day.
I'm going to exit stage left.
So I just, I just, I just want to have them on just because I would just want to see Levi
just blow a gasket.
That's why I love them.
I love little brother to death, but I don't need to listen to that.
It'd be funny.
Anyways.
Yeah.
You can do it by yourself then.
Yeah.
I do it all by myself.
Most of the time.
Um, but yeah.
Oh, and the gaming shit was still working on.
So you asked that you guys later in the words of road dog.
Why
could have