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And like yesterday, we went so long with the interview with Eric Johnson, even though it

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was a great interview, we never even got into what he's currently doing, you know, from

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the road where he had the 13, either 13 or 14 undefeated streak, you know, things with

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Limitless, his time as Let's Tag Team Champions with Brandino.

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So I'm hoping that we can get him back down in the future.

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I still want to get a bunch of other guests before then.

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I know we got to get Hess back, we got to get Eric back, Smiley was so much fun, like

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these guests are so much fun to have.

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So we've been going longer and longer on Fridays with these guests that we might be doing the

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interview this regularly, where if we have a guest on Friday, we do the guest show Friday

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and then Saturday, you guys will get the news show.

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This is something that we're thinking about, just because with the bigger that we're starting

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to grow, which is awesome, we're getting more comments, people are asking more questions

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with the people that we're interviewing.

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the news and stuff.

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we get a bunch of shows coming up.

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February 1st is Ring Wars 2.

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I will be there with Dillon Nix against Hyper Putin as well as Samuel Matthews.

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I think is no, he was he was like would JP.

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Never mind.

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I don't think he's actually booked Levi Spade.

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He's doing a bunch of shit with promo Primos.

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So it's going to be hard to possibly doing that.

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So it's just things that we're trying to experiment and have fun with.

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But like I said yesterday, I didn't want to leave you guys with nothing.

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I wanted to give you guys an actual like show for the news, even though it was a great show

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with Eric Johnson going through almost three hours, you know, talking, shoot the shit we

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Like I said, didn't give it everywhere.

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So let's get into it, I guess.

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Maybe we'll have some other friends joining in eventually.

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If not, whatever you got me for the whole show and everybody's leaving.

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They don't want big cat at all.

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I understand.

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So if you guys seen this with Corey Graves, I think this is a shoot.

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I'm not shoot work, but Corey Graves, he was on he's on Twitter and he he just let out

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some emotions that got him in deep water.

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These tweets are now deleted.

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However, of course, people save them.

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So it's crazy because I didn't think that these tweets were that bad.

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My personal opinion, but so he was off from the NXT, I think after he posted this.

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So he said on his own personal Twitter, says, imagine chasing your dream and being told

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not deciding that you're no longer physically able to pursue your dream.

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Then you decide your life to something dream adjusted, adjusted and being pretty fucking

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awesome at it.

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And when it's time to enjoy your fruits of your labor, being told you're not famous

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enough to do your own job, just in case you're wondering where I've been.

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So he tweeted that and there was a lot of heat, I guess, supposedly.

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I kind of think this might be like I said, this might be a work.

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So he says, I've done.

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I've got a lot to say, don't miss WWE NXT tonight on the CW.

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And then the prompt confusion of multiple fans and the confusion only grew when graves

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did not appear on the June 14 episode of NXT.

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So he's in a little bit of hot water, I guess going on.

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Supposedly there's been rumors that there's a possibility of him returning to wrestling.

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We've seen that with Edge, Daniel Bryan, other guys that are told never can wrestle again

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and they're back wrestling.

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According to the Meltzer, which is probably not even true, more than likely not even true.

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There's already a plan for McAfee and Cole to announce for Raw.

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Meanwhile, the original plan was for Graves to move back to SmackDown with Joe.

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However, something changed and Wade Barrett took Graves' spot and Graves moved to NXT

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instead leaving Graves really upset.

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Which Graves is not a bad commentator if this is actually like a shoot.

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He does really good on commentating.

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I honestly still my favorite, like everybody's favorite growing up was Jim Ross and Jerry

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the King Waller.

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I can't get any better than that, but Graves has done really well.

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like he's being put like a downgrade.

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I should say we all know what happened like a while back with another NXT commentator

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getting into his face, kind of being an asshole, which caused that guy to leave.

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Can't remember his name, apologize.

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But yeah, so this is what's going on right now.

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This big thing, everybody's trying to figure out if it's a work or if it's shoot.

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Who knows, right?

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I think there was more to it that is talking about possibility.

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I saw that right here.

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Update.

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Let's see.

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No, that's not the right one.

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Let's see.

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I want the update on the situation.

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I love it when I had this ready to go and I can't find the correct tab right there of

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what I'm looking for.

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This is probably the wrong tab.

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Nope.

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Here we go.

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So this is no DQ.com.

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This is updated situation.

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WWE announced the core Graves Monday night.

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WWE announced the core Graves issued a public statement about his status with the company

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following his move back to the NXT brand.

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Graves later wrote and he would say a lot.

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He would have a lot to say on January 14th and then didn't end up premiering on the NXT

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show.

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The future with the WWE is currently uncertain.

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And then update with Dave Meltzer.

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This is Dave.

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I believe Dave's quote.

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We are told that he is not trying to get fired, just trying to blur the lines and create buzz.

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One person high up in WWE said after that, he may be telling everybody it's a work and

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turn into one.

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But it's a total shoot when it's happening.

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To make it completely clear, he isn't saying that publicly as in this situation, he's probably

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not going to publicly talk about it for a long time until long after it blows over,

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unless there's an angle from it or if the relationship with the company were to end.

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I can't believe everything that Dave Meltzer says, but who knows?

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I can see the frustrations that you feel like you're on the top brand and then being put

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on NXT could feel like it's a downgrade.

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However, we're seeing banger matches after banger matches in NXT.

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At this point, I kind of feel like it's all the same.

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Yeah, it would be awesome to be on the Netflix show because that's the bigger show getting

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millions and millions of views.

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I think the first show I think he was either between four, six million views, which is

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something they haven't gotten in forever.

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So it's kind of cool that they are, you know, be able to get that Netflix.

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But speaking of Netflix, you know, we saw Penta, he had his match with Chad Gable.

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Amazing match.

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What we know is the rumor, the first NXT, not NXT, sorry, the first RAW on Netflix,

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he was supposed to have a match.

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However, because of time from the Rocks promo and John Cena's promo, they had to cut it.

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So he had his match with Chad Gable.

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It was a great match.

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Some botches in there.

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at all.

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I'm like, oh, that probably sucked a lot.

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And then he had a promo just basically thanking the WWE Universe.

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And you know, this is Penta's time now basically.

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And apparently he's gotten backstage heat.

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Apparently he ran long in his segment match and it pissed everybody off.

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That's because they're always over.

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They're always over their times at AEW.

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So maybe he didn't really feel like he gave a shit or he was kind of just probably just

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like, you know what?

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You cut me from the last show.

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Fuck you.

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I can go whatever I want, but who knows?

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So I got an article right here from, right here from, I believe it's either it's called

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Wolt Culture, I believe it's, below it's there we go.

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Yes.

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Wolt Culture updated Penta ran over time on Raw debut backstage heat.

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And then let's see, FIFO Select has published a new report confirming that Penta's WWE Raw

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debut ran over time.

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The outlet couldn't confirm whether or not this led to anything else on the show being

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So yeah, basically getting some little backstage heat.

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schedule in key markets in the US and UK.

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FIFO notes.

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However, the company was trying to hit the two hours and 30 minute mark for Raw this

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So yeah, again, this is a little bit pissy about it, but hey, you know what?

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He's a big star.

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Everybody's excited for him.

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He's fucking doing great.

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I'm looking forward to some banger matches.

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Hopefully can have a better match with CM Punk.

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Oh my God, the match was so bad on AW.

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So funny though, if you saw that, it's just so funny.

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CM Punk went to do a her Karana and just ate shit.

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I put it on the botches from Portal 2, the ketchupy ketchupy ketchupy and this fucking

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punk just eating shit because it's hilarious.

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like looking forward to him versus Ray because they had a banger of the match and in Mexico.

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I can't remember what the promotion is, but you can look it up.

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It's a it's fantastic.

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It's amazing match.

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So I like how the direction WWE is going with signing talent, you know, getting people in

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trying even trying independent talent coming in going from, you know, you're normal from

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like inside to NXT to however going getting signed to new getting like on the main roster,

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which is pretty dope.

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You know what we saw with the new bloodline, all those guys, independent stars immediately

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coming in main roster.

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But who knows, maybe they'll after they're done where their storyline, they could put

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possibly just go right straight into NXT, do some more training because I know some

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of their shit's fucking sloppy.

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But who knows, we could see more stars.

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I know a lot of guys on the independent scene are getting IW, IW ID WWE contracts.

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Something like to look forward to like those names coming up to NXT, shit like that get

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really excited for.

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So main thing I want to talk about is if you guys didn't see, we saw the finally the merger

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for WWE and NXT NXT sorry, TNA, I apologize.

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I usually have friends here to put me in place.

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However, they decided to spend time with their family and be an asshole.

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So WWE and TNA finally announcing their multi year partnership.

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They've already been doing a bunch of shit together anyways, you know, a lot of teenage

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stars going to NXT, you know, Joe Hendry, and you know, vice versa.

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It's really cool.

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I can't wait for this.

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AEW as we know, try to do the same thing.

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They failed fucking miserably with it.

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It was terrible.

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They kind of buried TNA doing that.

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But I feel like WWE and TNA working together is going to be awesome.

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It's going to be going to be great for both companies.

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And yeah, the former TNA knockout world champion, Jordan Grace and Joe Henry frequently appeared

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on NXT programming in 2024, highlighted by the NXT Championship match featuring Henry

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and Ethan Page at No Mercy.

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Many NXT superstars also crossed the line into TNA wrestling, you know, got got a bunch

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So it's this is great.

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I love working with the shit I know.

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Nix has brought it up, you know, hopefully, maybe we can get our age back, we can just

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have a fucking like banger of a company get our rich TNA working with WWE, you know, everybody

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working with each other beef really fucking dope, especially like do like always like

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main focus on like, just the signed Indie guys, having them on the show, they had the

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ID contracts, you know, having them progress into like NXT and then eventually WWE main

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roster, I think that'd be awesome.

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You know, WWE is doing doing everything smart, like, I'm so excited about this WWE I like

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this this current WWE system.

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I've explained it before.

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But like, if you're not working shit like that, you know, working the Indies doing other

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shows, you know, WWE is working with Noah, fucking, you know, it's awesome.

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It's very awesome.

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Giving these guys the ability to hey, we're not using you right now on TV.

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Why don't you go, you know, continue going out and promoting yourself, you know, keeping

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you fresh shit like that.

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And that's awesome.

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I love in that shit loving it.

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But Matt Hardy and Jeff Hardy were on the Chris von Ville podcast and they had like talking

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about this, you know, the TNA experience, aw, how they feel like they're going to continue

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on and I I'm gonna start one at a time.

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I think Matt has a more straightforward talk about it.

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However, I enjoy Jeff a lot better, but Matt's Matt's still cool.

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But this is Matt Hardy talking about TNA and WWE working together.

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Kind of sets you up for a possible WWE return this year, it feels like.

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There is a that was actually one of his bold predictions is that the Hardys will wrestle

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a match in WWE before the year's over.

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How do you feel about that?

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I feel good about that.

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I mean, we that's one of the great things about working with TNA now, you know, they

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know that we do have a lot of love for WWE.

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They know that we would like to want to do the Hall of Fame.

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We film some content from WWE that will probably drop in pretty soon.

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I saw the Dudleys did it the day before us and I know there's just dropped recently.

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And we have a good working relationship with them and I think the perfect storm arose.

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I think you could see us pop up even as TNA champs on some WWE show at some point, who

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knows?

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There are the Royal Rumbles right around the corner.

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There's an opportunity there for a version of you to show up.

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Maybe at another point in the match, Jeff to show up as well wearing these championship

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titles.

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Yeah, I mean, it's their relationship is very good.

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It's very good for business.

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The very positive WWE slash NXT TNA relationship is very good for business.

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And it goes both ways as well.

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It does.

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You know, that's been really fun to see.

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I mean, if a TNA star goes and shows up on NXT, they seem like a bigger star.

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You know, it's a great star building moment for them.

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100%.

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And with that same thing being said, TNA is a company that has been around for over two

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decades.

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If you said NXT talent and TNA, they seem like a bigger star for being there too.

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Yeah, 100%.

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I just don't agree with that, you know, that'd be awesome to like seeing more TNA talent

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and you know, definitely get Matt and Jeff back.

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I kind of wish Matt and Jeff and Edge and Christian had at least one more match together

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before the you know, they separated brands.

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Yeah, so it's it's it's great things with TNA and WWE working together.

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You know, we could see a lot more possibility and match ups that a lot of people want to

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see.

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Let's see, I think I have Jeff.

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Do I have Jeff talking about TNA?

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I don't.

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So I thought Jeff did.

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I thought I did.

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Maybe maybe it's part of this.

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So I got Jeff Hardy talking about AEW and I think he mentioned TNA in this.

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Relationship with TNA and WWE.

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It seems completely plausible that the Hardy boys would be in WWE at some point this year.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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And man, it's there's never been a real heel Hardy run.

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And I was so excited about that in AEW.

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But I know I own what I what I've done.

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And it was my fault.

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I really let Matt down with the whole AEW thing.

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I think even AEW, man, before I broke my nose wrestling Sammy Guevara, I was I my my thinking

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was like, man, we're not being used.

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What if I can be like a heel on social media and send out some tweets?

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And it evidently wasn't professional.

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But again, it's not like I was being serious.

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I just said something like, you know, collision was designed for punks and that just but I

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ended up getting getting three matches out of that with Squirreff Strickland, Jon Moxley

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and then Sammy.

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And in that match and all those matches, I had that feeling that passion.

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I could feel it again within myself.

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Oh, my God.

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This is I love this.

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I can still I got a lot more left in the tank.

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And I experienced that.

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But then naturally, injury happens and my nose was broken naturally.

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That was going to take a while to to heal.

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And and things just worked out the way they worked out.

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I'm so glad to be back in TNA and super excited, man, because TNA has been been there for me

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in dark times, man.

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When I left the pro wrestling world in 09 and got in my situation, man, TNA employed

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me and they supported me.

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And oh, my God.

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Like I said earlier, 2012 is one of the best years of my career.

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I was from sobriety.

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I was doing really good.

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And I just eventually eased into that drinking alcohol again.

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It took a while, but it just slowly, it slowly caught up to me.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, just Jeff already just, you know, explaining a little bit about his priority.

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You know, he's had he's struggled with a lot and I think he's sober now.

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I think he's been sober for a few years now and it's great because like I said, it's this

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he's just he seems like he does great and then he drops and then does great again and

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then he drops.

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It's I've never been, you know, in that type of situation.

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So I can't imagine how difficult it is trying to, you know, continue to be sober and trying

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to, you know, continue doing this type of work where you're constantly getting hurt.

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Like we've said it multiple times.

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Doing this is like taking taking a bump is like being in a 35 mile an hour car crash.

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Every single time you take a bump.

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So guys like this who are on the road at the daily, you know, even though like Hardy, you've

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seen all the crazy things that the Hardys have done, you know, falling off ladders,

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going through tables multiple times in their career, you know, takes more of a toll on

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you.

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So to try to stay away from pills and and alcohol and whatever harder substance, I bet

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it's I bet it's tough when your body is just just killing.

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It's just in constant pain.

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We know we we we saw current angle talk about how many so most he was on because of his

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broken neck and shit like that and trying to continue on going.

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So good on Jeff for trying to, you know, staying sober and, you know, continue that.

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I know Matt had an issue with I believe had an issue with that as well.

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And then had an easier time getting sober than Jeff has.

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But continue on with this.

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We got like a bunch more, a bunch more going on.

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Let's see.

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Let's do you know what we were talking about this variety.

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Let's talk about Jeff Hardy, Victor Road.

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As we know, the Victor Road was the very, very fucked up Jeff Hardy coming out.

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Supposed to have an amazing match with Sting and it didn't go that way at all.

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He takes Sting shot, pinned him because he was just fucked out of his mind.

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And this is him explaining it.

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Anything from Victory Road?

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I remember going out there and I remember I remember just staying roughing me up and

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like throw me to the mat.

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So I remember it.

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And naturally we say like he shot on me.

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But Eric Bishop told him to pin me because I was a zombie.

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And it was obvious when you watch the tape face paint.

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And I was kind of in my A throughout that whole evening.

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Me and Sting had talked about this one killer spot I was going to do.

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It was something like the twist of fate with the head and the chair.

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But I was going to take his finish, the reverse thing in a chair.

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And I was scared of that because I was, oh my God, I'm going to I'm going to break my

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neck.

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I don't know if I should do this.

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And, and but, but anyway, and yeah, I remember like sobering up after that.

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And Jeff Jarrett and even Hogan, man, and just, and knowing I had to go home and, and

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get straightened.

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They gave me another chance, man.

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When I, when I did go back, I did this song called resurrected and Bruce Prichard was

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there I believe.

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And he made me go in the locker room and apologize to everybody.

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And I don't think I've ever been that nervous in my life.

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I was so nervous in front of all of these, these professional wrestlers that I admire

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and love so much, but I had to go in there and just, you know, admit, say I'm sorry for

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what I did on, on pay-per-view and, but that was good for me.

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It helped me heal and, and, and yeah.

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And so I just moved on from there and had a really good 2012.

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But yeah, such a, such a dark time with staying and stay every time I've seen Sting since,

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I mean, he's just such a, such a good, good dude and such a support.

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And then, yeah, so I've just had a lot of dark, dark times from the, the alcoholism

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and the drug addiction stuff.

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It feels good to be on the other side of that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Yeah.

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Just like, I was surprised he didn't get fired.

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I'm really, he, he was such an important talent at that time.

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I think months prior before he got fired from WWE, he was champion and then he had a drop

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developed because of his addictions and shit like that.

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And I've, I've heard too that, that Sting is amazing.

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Yeah.

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Very nice guy.

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Very down to earth guy.

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I wish WWE kind of treated him better.

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You know, there was a massive scare too with Seth Rollins, but I really wish that there

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was some better, better promotion going on, not promotion, but better story with Sting

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when he was in WWE, maybe to try to keep him around.

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I don't think he was happy at all in WWE.

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He's happy, you know, and somewhat retirement right now.

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But speaking of the, you know, the years he's talking about the years, you know, of his

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being, you know, addiction and stuff like that.

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Matt talks about him leaving in 2010.

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When it was time to step away for a little bit from wrestling and kind of recenter yourself.

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I just knew when my body was so beat up and I had worked so hard through 2010, you know,

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and at one point, you know, they just said, oh, well, I said, I heard, can I have some

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time off?

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I said, oh, well, we, we, you're one of the guys we depend on.

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We'll leave you on the road.

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And so we'll just go, you know, to the doctor, see what they can do.

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And all doctors do is like write your prescription bills, you know, and that's kind of where

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that happened.

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But once I started going down that very slippery slope, that's where I said, okay, I've got

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to take some time away.

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I've got to get myself together and make things work the right way.

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And then you came back really better than ever from there.

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I feel like, yeah, whenever I came back, I was a lot smarter.

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Sure.

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You know, and, and wrestling is kind of a cruel, cruel business.

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Like when you're young and you're athletic and you can do everything under the sun, you'll

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go out there and do it.

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And you don't think about the character work.

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You don't think about, you know, really building a strong persona and telling strong stories

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necessarily with your character and like whatever the arc is and the story that you're working

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against your rival until you get hurt and beat up real bad.

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And you're like, I have this, I got to tell more of a story.

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I've got to be more of a character.

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And then that's when you start doing it, but then you can't physically do everything that

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you could when you were younger.

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So it's a, it's a real twisted business in that way.

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Kind of cursed.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's definitely needed time to step away.

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And I don't know if that was before or after the leader stuff with the edge, you know,

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and then having them come back and having that amazing story with hedge.

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Um, but if you haven't heard that both, basically both of them, you know, severely depressed

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about doing this kind of story, getting their personal lives into, you know, T on TTV.

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And uh, but that was a killer match that matches, you know, that definitely elevated Matt and

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then getting into Jeff versus Matt was, you know, fucking awesome matches too.

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Uh, let's see.

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I think, uh, we got, um, yep, we got a Matt Hardy, you know, talking about, uh, his return

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at a WWE, uh, him and Jeff at a WrestleMania.

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We come back to WB WrestleMania 33.

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I'm doing like this, uh, kind of like a morphed character.

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I feel like I'm still trying to retain the broken Matt Hardy identity, but we were playing

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regular Hardy boys and you talk about it.

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Like, it's not the greatest return of all time.

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WrestleMania 33.

469
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,120
Yeah.

470
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,120
Yeah.

471
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,280
I mean, it was, it was, it was amazing.

472
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,820
One of those things we are so grateful to have had that moment.

473
00:31:22,820 --> 00:31:29,440
You know, like we, it, we really kept it to, uh, a very small circle of people that knew

474
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,440
about it.

475
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,780
So there were some people that speculated may happen, uh, you know, may not happen,

476
00:31:33,780 --> 00:31:34,780
but it did.

477
00:31:34,780 --> 00:31:40,320
And it's crazy because the TNA, after we'd done all the broken Matt Hardy stuff, the

478
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,160
broken universe, brother Nero, uh, just the tens of thousands of people in there going

479
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,280
delete, delete, delete, delete how we had gotten that over and established it.

480
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,240
And it was, you know, all over the wrestling industry.

481
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,400
It was so, so cool.

482
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,760
Did you feel that wave from the audience?

483
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,720
Like did you feel that rush of energy from them?

484
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,720
Yeah.

485
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,000
I mean, it was, it was a very surreal moment.

486
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,240
Looking back, it's still, whenever I picture it, a lot of times I have vivid memories in

487
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:13,040
my head of something that, you know, has an event linked to it that you really have a

488
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,340
vivid memory and it's very crisp.

489
00:32:15,340 --> 00:32:16,340
This one is weird.

490
00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:18,440
It's almost like there's static around the outside of it.

491
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,440
Cause it's like surreal.

492
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,720
It almost felt like a dream because it was just so chaotic.

493
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,440
And we walked out, like we hadn't been in that venue.

494
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,200
That was a long round.

495
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,460
I mean that we literally had got there and we ran up right before we were going out,

496
00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:34,480
you know, they were doing all they could to keep it quiet all the way up to the moment

497
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,840
we walked through the curtain.

498
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,400
And then once we stepped out, we saw that massive crowd and just the sea of humanity,

499
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,200
you know, delete, delete and all the excitement people were nuts.

500
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,960
And I see it's kind of in slow motion.

501
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,960
It's blurry around the edges because it was so surreal.

502
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,960
It was very like dreamlike in a nice.

503
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:57,840
I really wish I could pull up that clip too of their return of how, how amazing that return

504
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,840
was at Drislemania.

505
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,640
Cause nobody was expecting it.

506
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,960
There was rumors here and there that there's a possibility that they would be there and

507
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,760
the crowd lost their fucking mind.

508
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,760
And it was awesome.

509
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,440
It was such a great return.

510
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,440
Loved it so much.

511
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:20,320
I really wish like they kind of kept it because at that time, same thing with the Dudleys,

512
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,360
they're putting like a lot of guys over more than winning matches, which is fine.

513
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Cause they're vets, you know, trying to get the younger guys over, but that's what it

514
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,200
seemed like, you know, FTR is having that issue.

515
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,680
I think in AEW where they're going, they're losing more matches than winning.

516
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,120
Like I kind of wish it would be like kind of 50, 50 type thing, building a nice program

517
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,040
with somebody and then, you know, putting them over.

518
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,360
But it was so great to have Matt and Jeff in and it's so great to have the Dudleys in

519
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,360
at that time too.

520
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,840
WWE it was, it was fantastic.

521
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,640
I've loved it.

522
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,400
So we got more of this Chris Vaughn interview.

523
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,560
I think that's all I pull for Jeff.

524
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:06,520
I mean for Matt, Jeff already talks about the Brock Lesnar incident with the chair shot

525
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,520
delivered.

526
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:14,160
One of the hardest chair shots in the history of pro wrestling to Brock Lesnar.

527
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,200
Walk me through what that was like.

528
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,200
Oh man.

529
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,400
I had been taking the three power bombs so much like night after night.

530
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,680
And I just felt like it was my chance to get it in, you know?

531
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:31,640
And we were out there and Matt followed up with a chair shot, but the echo in that building

532
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,120
that night was just crazy.

533
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,840
And then Matt followed up and he just, you know, went out of the ring and I was like,

534
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,440
the adrenaline was flowing, you know, cause it was such a loud chair shot.

535
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,720
He didn't go down.

536
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:43,720
Yeah.

537
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:44,720
He didn't go down.

538
00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:47,720
He, cause he is a beast of a man.

539
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:53,000
But then I think after that, I found out through Paul Heyman that that was the first chair

540
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,440
shot he had ever took to the head.

541
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,440
And I was like, Oh my God, I had no idea.

542
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,080
But I know I guess I'm sorry.

543
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,880
He's going to expect them to all be like that.

544
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,880
Oh my God.

545
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,880
Gee whiz.

546
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Thank you.

547
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,080
You hit him like, like he owed you money or something.

548
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,640
It was almost this half a second of silence too in the building.

549
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,200
People were like, Oh, it's like a time stop for half a second.

550
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,480
And just, and I go through the building.

551
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,480
That was extreme.

552
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,480
Yeah.

553
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,960
That was a crazy head chair shot.

554
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:31,000
I kind of want to see if WWE, if they'll be mad at me if I play it.

555
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:38,680
So I'm going to, we're only going to play a few, we're only going to play the chair

556
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:45,720
shot and hopefully, you know, WW doesn't, you know, get mad at me.

557
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:47,040
That's the hardest thing about this.

558
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:54,840
Is playing, trying to play clips and stuff and promos without getting copyright strikes.

559
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,400
Well, hopefully we got it here.

560
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,240
So check this out.

561
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,960
First ever chair shot and he ate that, ate it.

562
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,360
Oh my gosh.

563
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,040
Crazy and that sound.

564
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,040
That sound.

565
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,040
Oh my God.

566
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:21,760
Oh, and then Matt, I think that chair shot, I think he explained it before.

567
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,120
I'm pretty sure it was that one.

568
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,200
That one, maybe it was a different one where he accidentally busted him in the back of

569
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,440
the head open by accident to Brock.

570
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:36,360
It might've been that one might've been a different one, but I can tell you Brock definitely

571
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,460
got his receipts in for that one.

572
00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:47,800
So like the one thing that I always remember about Jeff Hardy in WWE besides the winning

573
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:54,120
the belt, the winning the biggest belt, you know, the WWE championship was his feud with

574
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:59,680
CM Punk and this is him, you know, explaining it and this is kind of, I'm hoping there's

575
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,760
a possibility we might see this now that TNA and WWE are working with each other.

576
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,000
A lot of people don't get my humor and it can be, I don't, I guess it can be dark at

577
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,400
times, but I just said that, oh, you know, by the time I'm 50, I might, you know, go

578
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:21,040
back to the E and, you know, retire CM Punk and then maybe go in the hall of fame.

579
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,920
There was things like it was like, that was seriously what I'm manifesting, which is not

580
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,100
the case at all.

581
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:30,640
I just said that thinking I was being funny and I think that was right after I painted

582
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,160
my face so uncomfortably in front of all those people.

583
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,440
But everybody took that as gospel.

584
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,440
Yeah.

585
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,760
Jeff Hardy says he's going to retire CM Punk.

586
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,400
Yeah. And that becomes like a run.

587
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,840
No, but that's, I didn't mean that at all.

588
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,120
I just thought it might be funny, but it could happen.

589
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,120
And yeah.

590
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,160
And the reality is it could happen, man.

591
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,880
Cause I, our feud man, still, I get so many compliments on that man with people that are

592
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,920
adults now, you know, say, oh man, that's you and punk.

593
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,480
The feud was amazing.

594
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,720
So even in AW, I felt like there was a moment for me and punk, like at least just some kind

595
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:08,200
of face off or uncomfortable, like us running in each other in the backstage or something.

596
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,760
But we never got to do that.

597
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,280
But man, ultimately I would, I would love to revisit that, that feud in some way.

598
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:20,960
And who knows man, if CM Punk is such a superpower in the pro wrestling game, but man, if Jeff

599
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,320
Hardy getting sober made him like an asshole.

600
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:31,720
I mean, come on Jeff, he'll Jeff Hardy against the one and only popular CM Punk.

601
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,240
I mean, I feel like that's completely possible.

602
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:35,240
Yeah.

603
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,000
Banger, banger of a match.

604
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,000
That's what I want to see.

605
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,120
That would be fucking awesome.

606
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:46,400
But speaking of like he'll Jeff Hardy, he goes into detail of Willow, which is his alter

607
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,040
ego, you know, coming in with the mask.

608
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,880
If you guys saw on TNA, I thought it was really unique character, kind of cool, something

609
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,080
different that Jeff was doing.

610
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:03,820
And this is him talking about, you know, Willow difference in, in Jeff Hardy.

611
00:39:03,820 --> 00:39:05,080
That's why I'm excited too.

612
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,120
There's this alter ego of mine, alter Nero of mine named Willow.

613
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,320
And he appeared in TNA, my last run in TNA.

614
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:18,240
And there's a new mask with a brand new face plate and man, I haven't tried it on yet,

615
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,960
but when I go pick it up and if it fits real good, I'm sure I'm going to get excited about

616
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:29,920
possibilities with, you know, a way darker side of Jeff Hardy or way more just spiritual

617
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:36,060
innovative character that Willow's never actually been in the past.

618
00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:39,960
The original idea with Willow was like, nothing makes sense because he's not human.

619
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:40,960
He's just some alien.

620
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,040
And he's the God of my imagination.

621
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,000
That's kind of where it all started.

622
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,360
But for him to be like my dark passenger and kind of got Jeff Hardy into this, you know,

623
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:55,200
different zone in pro wrestling, I think there might be something pretty powerful within

624
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,200
that idea.

625
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,360
So that's something we might see this year in TNA.

626
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,360
I feel like it.

627
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,360
I feel like it for sure.

628
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,360
Yeah.

629
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,400
So if I throw up a Willow promo on social media or something and it's decent, I mean,

630
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,400
that'll be the test to see the feedback and then, you know, go from there.

631
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,400
Yeah.

632
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:18,520
I would love to see Willow versus CM Punk would be fucking awesome.

633
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,840
Oh, just I'm so excited with this era of wrestling.

634
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,400
It's so much fun.

635
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:30,280
Now if AEW could do, you know, could maybe get some writers or something like that and,

636
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,800
you know, produce the same like same kind of banger, that's something that would make

637
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,680
sense and lot people with love.

638
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,880
I would love to have that.

639
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,440
I love to see that.

640
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:46,080
You know, it's just everything in wrestling is going so great right now.

641
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,680
This are amazing.

642
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,680
WWE is doing awesome things.

643
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,760
TNA is rising and doing some amazing things.

644
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,880
You know, we saw Scott, who was used to be the owner of TNA, Maple Leaf is doing amazing

645
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:00,880
things.

646
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,280
You know, it's doing so many great things right now in wrestling.

647
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,280
It's great to be a wrestling fan.

648
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:11,360
It's so exciting just to see like the possibilities of matches and stuff like that.

649
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Maybe one day, AEW and WWE will have some kind of partnership as well, you know, because

650
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,560
I'd love to see John Moxley and Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns in the ring again.

651
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:29,040
Or, you know, I've talked about a million times, Kenny Omega versus CM Punk.

652
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,040
I'd love to see that.

653
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:35,520
Even like there's so many matches we can see with them crossing over.

654
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,120
It's you know, hopefully one day we might actually be able to see that if they're still

655
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,120
around.

656
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:49,920
But the last clip I have is with Jeff Hardy paying his face.

657
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,640
We all know that he does that for, you know, coming in.

658
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,640
It's his, you know, his art style.

659
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,640
He loves to do that.

660
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:02,960
And there's one episode of TNA where he paid tribute to Bray Wyatt as the fiend.

661
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,640
This is him explaining it.

662
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:10,920
So much joy out of painting my face even because I'm always coming up with these images that

663
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,960
I know are possible to put on my face.

664
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,360
And a good example of that is when I did a tribute to the fiend.

665
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,680
That just turned out incredible.

666
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,160
And that's, oh my God, I've never painted teeth on my lips before.

667
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:29,080
So naturally the fiend, Bray Wyatt, I had to, you know, show him some love.

668
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,080
What did it mean to you to pay tribute to him like that?

669
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,440
The feedback was incredible, man.

670
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,800
Just the love that, you know, came back from that and people being grateful of that because

671
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,480
he was such an amazing human being.

672
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,960
And Matt got to work with him naturally.

673
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,560
I would have loved to, but I still watched the little pre-tip we did backstage when I

674
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,680
was coming back from shoulder surgery and we did a little thing back there.

675
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:59,440
I was about to go out with Finn Baller and Seth Rollins and me, Matt and Bray did a little

676
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,440
thing back there.

677
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,640
And I just, oh man, it warms my heart every time I see that.

678
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,640
Yeah.

679
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,640
I miss Bray.

680
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Bray was a very, very unique and amazing mind in wrestling and touched the heart of a lot

681
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,000
of fans.

682
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,160
Like everybody was devastated.

683
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,960
Like I even cried.

684
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,160
I will admit to that.

685
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:31,440
I was devastated, you know, that Bray sadly passed away leaving behind, you know, his

686
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:40,880
daughters and his wife and he just touched so many fans and wrestlers.

687
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,840
Like I do some Bray shit.

688
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:54,000
Like heel cat does a lot of like aneurysms of Bray Wyatt, you know.

689
00:43:54,000 --> 00:44:01,040
And I do the, the senton comes from Bray as well as cross body.

690
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:09,000
You know, that like taking things from him and cause he's like, he was very like an amazing

691
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:18,320
character to take ideas from, but he's definitely missed and loved and you know, still favorite

692
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,140
match to see is the Wyatt's versus the shield.

693
00:44:22,140 --> 00:44:23,140
Amazing fucking match.

694
00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:29,800
Like I think they had two or three of them, all of them fucking bangers, all of them bangers.

695
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,440
So that's all the Chris Vaughn interview I have for Jeff and Matt.

696
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,040
Limitless Wrestling had their event Saturday.

697
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,800
They also have one today.

698
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,720
We're going to check the main event tonight.

699
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,960
It was the Morgan Hill meltdown was on Saturday.

700
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,480
I was actually supposed to be there.

701
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:55,680
I had a family emergency so I couldn't attend, but Matt Cordona was there and Desmond Cole

702
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,360
and him faced off.

703
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,080
We're going to watch that tonight as well as the main event for limitless tonight.

704
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:08,640
I want to do that for the people watching tonight.

705
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,760
So we'll do that behind the wall.

706
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,280
But I just want to give a little tease.

707
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,280
You probably won't.

708
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:20,040
How do you listeners enjoy this as much as people watching, but we had Alexander Lee

709
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:28,640
and supposed to be against Jay Haru and in the corner of course is a Niagara and we got

710
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:36,880
a highlight video of for some reason the card was changed for some reason.

711
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,880
We'll see why.

712
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,880
The music stopped.

713
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,880
Young Storm.

714
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,880
Very important stuff from the back.

715
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,400
Ladies and gentlemen, the scheduled matchup for the next event is going to be the

716
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:50,240
Storm, very important stuff from the back, ladies and gentlemen, the scheduled matchup

717
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:59,300
between Alexander Lee and Jay Haru unfortunately will not be taking place.

718
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:20,560
Ladies and gentlemen, the scheduled matchup for the next event is going to be the Storm,

719
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,080
very important stuff.

720
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,080
I wasn't finished.

721
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,080
Oh!

722
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,080
I was not finished.

723
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,080
Do you mind?

724
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,080
Can I finish?

725
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,080
Kick his ass.

726
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,080
Kick his ass.

727
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,080
Ha!

728
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,080
That match,

729
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,080
J. Haru and

730
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,080
Ro, that match is not happening.

731
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,080
However, another match

732
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,080
has been made official for

733
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,080
tonight.

734
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,080
And this match

735
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,080
is a

736
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,080
10 team match.

737
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,080
But I'm

738
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,080
not the owner

739
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,080
of the match.

740
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Not any damn match.

741
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,080
Look at this.

742
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,080
This is a

743
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,080
10 team

744
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,080
street

745
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,080
fight.

746
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,080
Oh baby!

747
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,080
Alexander Lee's gonna get that pound of flesh.

748
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,080
Hi Dad.

749
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,080
AC Baby

750
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,080
answers the call.

751
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,080
The perfect day plan.

752
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,080
He's out the window now.

753
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,080
So likes his sentence.

754
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,080
Oh, I'm gonna get fucked.

755
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,080
A trusted friend of Alexander Lee.

756
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,080
I'm sorry!

757
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,080
This will never do.

758
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,080
He's gonna stick him right in.

759
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,080
He's gonna stick him right in.

760
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,080
Ha!

761
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,080
I bet that hurts a lot.

762
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,080
Oh my God!

763
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,080
Disgust Lariat!

764
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,080
Disgust Lariat!

765
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,080
Wait.

766
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,080
Ace is looking amazing by the way.

767
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,080
Not just vengeance, punishment.

768
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,080
Ace has

769
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,080
you know

770
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,080
worked so hard to drop

771
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,080
weight. He's been going to the gym

772
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,080
constantly, you know, changed his

773
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,080
diet, everything. He did like

774
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,080
kinda did like a, with his TikTok

775
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,080
just showed like his meal plan and stuff like that.

776
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,080
Good on Ace. I think he dropped

777
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,080
like over 100 pounds or 100 pounds

778
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,080
in a year.

779
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,080
And he was

780
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,080
he was over 400. I think he's actually

781
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,080
lower than me or close to my weight.

782
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,080
So good on

783
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,080
Ace. Great job dude.

784
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,080
Did fantastic.

785
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,080
I hope we get you back on the podcast.

786
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,080
You were supposed to go that night but things

787
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,080
change. I'm

788
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,080
actually gonna get in touch with him. See if he would like to

789
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,080
come back on in February.

790
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,080
Maybe we can get you know him to

791
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,080
explain his journey of weight loss and stuff

792
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,080
like that. Looking forward

793
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,080
to that.

794
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Get the tables!

795
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,080
Get the tables indeed!

796
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,080
My god!

797
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,080
It's just cracked across the head.

798
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,080
The steel chair.

799
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,080
That chair being utilized to great effect.

800
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,080
Cracks across the back.

801
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,080
Moving forward. Unless

802
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,080
Alexander Lee

803
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,080
to the floor.

804
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,080
Something worse.

805
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,080
Wow god!

806
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,080
Oh god!

807
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,080
Haru with the trash can

808
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,080
living. Oh no.

809
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,080
Ow.

810
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,080
Coming in hot.

811
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,080
It's Barrow with a pair of clotheslines.

812
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,080
The trash can

813
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,080
living. Oh

814
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,080
babe!

815
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,080
Somehow Haru still

816
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,080
standing. Oh here we go.

817
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,080
Roll the drive.

818
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,080
Oh no!

819
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,080
No no no no!

820
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,080
Hey!

821
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,080
Hey!

822
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,080
You gotta do this!

823
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,080
You gotta do this!

824
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,080
One on two. Affair the

825
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,080
dusters. No affair.

826
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,080
3D!

827
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,080
Yes!

828
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,080
I got so mad when I saw that.

829
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,080
I got so mad he did

830
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,080
the 3D. Not only because we do it.

831
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,080
Not that reason.

832
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,080
Because he'd always give a shit

833
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,080
for doing the 3D.

834
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,080
He goes, well that's the Dudley's

835
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,080
mothafucka. You're gonna piss off the Dudley's if they ever fucking see you.

836
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,080
And here it is. That's mothafucka.

837
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Doing the 3D.

838
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,080
He's like, oh!

839
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,080
Oh! It's okay. Would you do it dad?

840
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,080
Oh! Okay. Fucking bullshit.

841
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,080
Like.

842
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,080
Throw the thorn!

843
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,080
J.R. O'Lugos!

844
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,080
Feels like

845
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,080
deja vu for J.

846
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,080
Haru. But now

847
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,080
Lee from the top!

848
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,080
Drows on the head

849
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,080
drive and went into the

850
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,080
heart and captures the victory!

851
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,080
Awesome.

852
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,080
Awesome. That was

853
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,080
I wish I was there to see that. I would have been

854
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,080
fucking screaming.

855
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,080
Screaming to watch that. For that match.

856
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,080
So good.

857
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,080
So very good.

858
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,080
I'm just double checking to see if we got any

859
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,080
any other news

860
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,080
going on. Like

861
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,080
news wise. It looks like we don't.

862
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,080
Anything like

863
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,080
that stands out.

864
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,080
Because

865
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,080
sadly

866
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,080
this means

867
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,080
we're gonna go

868
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,080
bye bye for audio listeners.

869
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,080
And we're gonna do strictly just us.

870
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,080
Because

871
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,080
you guys won't understand what's going on.

872
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,080
Because we're gonna be watching some botches and those matches.

873
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,080
So I wanna say

874
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,080
thank you audio listeners for listening.

875
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,080
For

876
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,080
anyone who wants to

877
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,080
listen to us audio wise.

878
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,080
When they're driving in the car. Maybe at work.

879
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,080
We're on every platform.

880
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Apple Podcasts. Spotify.

881
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,080
Check us out.

882
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,080
But if you wanna see the full show

883
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,080
you have to be here

884
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,080
live every Friday

885
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,080
9pm EST.

886
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,080
Or you know like today. Today's a special day.

887
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,080
You guys get a Saturday show.

888
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,080
I'm sad now. I'm really sad now.

889
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,080
This bullshit.

890
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,080
Like I knew it.

891
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Suzie did so many fucking run ins and shit.

892
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,080
Like yep.

893
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,080
Desmond's not going over.

894
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,080
Fucking Channing is.

895
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,080
Keeping him strong with all the bullshit.

896
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,080
But still.

897
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,080
It's fucking.

898
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,080
I'm sad now.

899
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,080
I'm really sad.

900
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,080
Well thank you guys so much for watching.

901
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,080
Like I said.

902
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,080
Tune in.

903
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,080
Tune in every Friday.

904
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,080
9pm EST.

905
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,080
YouTube. Twitch.

906
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,080
Follow us on all the audio platforms.

907
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,080
Spotify. Apple Podcasts. Pandora.

908
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,080
All of them.

909
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,080
I Heart Radio.

910
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,080
Sorry. I'm gonna have them all gassy.

911
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,080
Oh I got a comment here.

912
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,080
Here you go.

913
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,080
The best thing he knows.

914
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,080
How to. It's his complaint.

915
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,080
He's ungrateful and has bad attitude.

916
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,080
And only through the locker room.

917
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,080
Room. One million more.

918
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,080
Or he's out there. Fire him.

919
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,080
Shit. I didn't see fucking what that was.

920
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,080
I wish I would have known.

921
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,080
When you were saying that.

922
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,080
When you were saying that.

923
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,080
One more.

924
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,080
Fire him.

925
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,080
Yeah.

926
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,080
I'm sorry. I'm spacing out.

927
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,080
Trying to figure out when you.

928
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,080
When that was.

929
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,080
I was during Limitless.

930
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,080
On Limitless Show.

931
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,080
Anyway.

932
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,080
I am.

933
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,080
Going to be wrestling next Friday.

934
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,080
There will probably be a pre-recorded show.

935
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,080
I'm tired as you can see.

936
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,080
I've only got a little sleep.

937
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,080
From last night's show.

938
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,080
And I'm working all day.

939
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,080
So I apologize.

940
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,080
Next Friday.

941
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,080
Working. MPW. Old Town.

942
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,080
Check it out.

943
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,080
Triple Threat Tag Team for the MPW Tag Team Championships.

944
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,080
MEW.

945
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,080
Dylan Nix. Sammy Matthews.

946
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,080
Will be there in Franklin.

947
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,080
Then we have Ring Wars.

948
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,080
February 1st.

949
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,080
I'll be there.

950
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,080
With Dylan Nix. Going against.

951
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,080
Hi Putin. Rematch.

952
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,080
Rematch that should have happened.

953
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,080
That needed to happen.

954
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,080
So I'm looking forward to that.

955
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,080
Then the second.

956
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,080
Will be.

957
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,080
Let's wrestle.

958
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,080
Milford. I don't think I'm on that card.

959
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,080
And then we're going to have a lot of March shows.

960
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,080
So get ready for it.

961
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,080
Thank you guys again.

962
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,080
So much for watching.

963
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,080
We will see you next Friday.

964
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,080
Well we won't see you next Friday.

965
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,080
Because we will be wrestling.

966
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,080
Hopefully I will be seeing you at the show.

967
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,080
At Old Town.

968
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,080
Next Friday.

969
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,080
And enjoy the pre-recorded show.

970
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,080
For next Friday.

971
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,080
Thank you guys so much.

972
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,080
You guys have a great night.

973
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,080
See you guys later.

974
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,080
Bye.

