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We have the current MEW Champion, also Let's Wrestle Tag Team Champion, and the owner of Ring Wars, Eric Johnson.
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whole issue are
I was around the time I'm supposed to have my first match
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Tony Atlas that shows down Lewiston area and stuff with the club, Texas, things like that.
And those were some of my first matches until NWH came to, uh, to my hometown of old town
and was going to run weekly shows.
Uh, it was an old, it's now a church now, ironically, but it was an old VFW, the VFW
hall and you could fit, if you squeezed them in there, you probably could fit like 150
in there with the room.
We would change in this old storage closet.
Are we talking like, like Dexter, uh, launch the type of storage closet?
Oh my gosh.
Um, that was smaller.
It was smaller than this one.
This one actually had like, it was like where they stored all their like sound equipment
and signing an extra like cups and things they didn't use from the, there was a bar
in the front of the VFW hall and, and the back was the hall obviously.
And then there would be like the room where they keep all their extra crap and, uh, we
would change in there.
It'd be no heating in there.
It'd be cold.
Like in the winter time, we're still doing these weekly shows.
It'd be winter time doing these weekly shows.
It'd be so cold.
There's no heat freezing our nads off.
We're all in spandex just freezing our butts off wrestling weekly in front of like 50 to
60 people.
Some nights it got pretty big though.
I think we've got up to like one, one, one 20 in there was pretty big.
Uh, anyway, um, when they came to old town, I started training weekly and, uh, getting
while still wrestling every week.
Cause they were still short handed on wrestlers.
Um, and, uh, I would sometimes wrestle twice a night once under a mask and once as myself.
And I just put in reps and I just kept going there and did a lot of seminars over my time.
I got to keep going with her 20 plus years of stuff, but that's what I got back into
it full time and been on the road ever since doing it.
Wow.
I can't, I can't imagine doing a wrestling show every week.
Like I know beyond your skill.
Yeah.
That's how you get your, that's how I got my edge.
Like that's, I went from those few men, like when I started going, Ryan and my buddy Abe
to those Tony Atlas shows, there was a match here, match here.
Like my first, my first matches, I got the snot kicked out of me.
So I went in a minute 10 and got my ass beat.
So like, just how it works with your, when you're green or, um, and then when I was doing
those weekly shows, I was wrestling because no one ever won.
I want to wrestle them.
And I think they did it more so as a punishment.
I was really, I was rough.
I was a lot of reading.
We are getting beat up by bull moose, Calhoun every week.
Just because no one, no one's wrestling.
And being, being, I used to sell real like really good for them.
And I knew him from when I was younger anyway.
And so he didn't take it easy on me, but like he did more with me than most.
Um, but, uh, got my butt with for a couple of weeks.
So they probably did something with me.
I don't have a question right here for Tyler.
Uh, he says, oh wow.
So Eric, what, uh, what was it like back in those days on Tony's show, if you don't mind
giving you, uh, in the detail of how that changed over the, uh, year, over the years.
Depends on the timeframe of the Tony shows.
Cause I was there for the transitional time, but I mean, by transitional time, there was
a time where Tony Atlas's shows were on TV and sometimes there weren't.
Um, and then there was a time like where, or Tony was in charge, but he, he wasn't cause
he would pay with someone else would help with the shows, which I believe was Amanda
storm and she used to be the ring and I provided the ring for the show.
So she was partly involved too.
So there was a time I was there on and off for the transition all the while.
So getting my ass beat, but, um, there was different, there was different times because
when it was just Tony, it's pretty laid back.
Um, there's no one really Tony tells you what he wants.
I remember the time when he asked me to wrestle and I wasn't supposed to, he's like, I'm
like, Hey kid, yeah, you got, you got, you got gear.
And I'm like, cause he didn't, I see him all the time.
We actually, we see Tony all the time now about Danny.
I was just a tag along.
Yeah.
You got me here.
Yeah.
All right.
Well you're wrestling that guy.
Like that's really how much that's how quick it was.
Right.
You're wrestling that guy.
And then other times there would be, it'd be like WrestleMania in there and it'd be
like 30 dudes.
There'd be like no people.
Sometimes it'd be a ton.
It depends on the day.
It can be weird depending on the show, but in also during the transition when the TV
was going on, everybody in their uncle was there when the TV wasn't going on.
Yeah.
If it was a fundraiser, you know, it'd be cheap roster.
But if it was like a fair show, I remember going to his old, he went Tony Atlas or in
the farm into fair.
There'd be like a ton of rats, like 30 wrestlers on the show.
I'll be like, wow, these people come from what year did he stop running shows?
I kept running shows on and off because there was Atlas Championship wrestling and then
there was a Atlas, APW Atlas professional wrestling.
There was two different, the TV one was the not.
So that's why I explained to people, well, one was when he was on tape with us, he had
the TV show one wasn't, but he would run shows on it.
He was really, he would always do at least two or three shows a year, even when he was
on a slow end because he'd have all the, he had a couple of fares or grazers or something.
He had always do at least like one show a season, you know, so you'd have like four
shows a year, even on the slow end.
But toward the end there, like once he, once he, once he gave up the farming to fair, I
knew he was kind of done.
He didn't want to run around shows anymore, which I mean, I can tell him he's old and
that's, it's a lot of work to run shows.
It's everybody wants, everybody wants to be the booker first promoter second.
You gotta be the promoter first booker second.
I think that's the issue too with nowadays.
You see a lot of the promoters putting themselves on the show and not really focusing on the
show more of like what, how they can be involved in it instead of trying to make everything
go smoothly as it can be.
Well I host the ring wars stuff and you guys know, and I, the first show, I didn't even
really want to be honest.
I got a, I got a sponsorship that I wanted to use to put toward advertising for the show,
but the deal was, is I had a Russell.
So it was for Carolinas, the owner of Carolina's walked in and I was literally divvying up
tickets to, uh, to mail out to people.
And he's like, what are those?
And I said, uh, those are the wrestling tickets for ring wars.
It's like ring wars.
You're still wrestling.
I'm like, yeah, I'm not this show though.
I'm just, I'm just hosting the show.
I haven't run a show in like nine years or something.
I really wanted to, I want eight or nine years, something like that.
And I was like, I don't want to want to host a show, you know?
And then I just, I'm not even the owner.
It's I'm hosting a competition between, between promotions.
It's, uh, ring wars is not a promotion.
It's competition kind of like, and I guess easiest explanation, like mortal combat was
a tournament where it brought fighters together to battle, like in the video game aspect.
Well, this is the same thing for wrestling.
So that's really what it is.
But anyway, back to the story that you wanted stories.
Uh, he saw me with the tickets.
I asked him if he want, he wanted some tickets, you know, that's I DJ at Carolina's all the
time.
I worked there for many a year.
I know the owner pretty well.
He's like, no, no, no.
I'm like, is there all you should come?
It's a good time.
Like, I'm not into that.
I'm not into that.
I'm like, well, he was like, you want to sponsor the show?
He's like, tell me more about that.
I'm like, what do you mean?
Tell me more about the sponsorship.
And I was like, well, you can sponsor a wrestler.
You can sponsor a match.
You can sponsor, you can put, I can put a banner up for you.
I can, what do you, it depends on what you want to spend.
He's like, he said, you're not wrestling on the show.
I know that I'd like to sponsor you if you were wrestling.
So I'm like, so by wrestle, you'd sponsor me.
You guys.
Yep.
I'm like, don't make that from the spot.
So I was like, well, shit, I got Russell now, I guess I'm like, this will pay for the posters.
It's okay for this.
It's okay for that.
Yeah.
That's something that I have to wrestle now.
So this coming show on February 1st, I'm not wrestling.
I did that on purpose.
I don't bring wars.
It's competition between promotions.
And the irony is that work for all these promotions.
So why I can't just pick one.
That's not really fair.
So I don't really want to, I want to be the host.
I want to be like putting this thing together, making it happen so that their competition
between promotions happens and the talent can wrestle each other.
And I can just be there being the shame son of the situation.
It's really, really, what did I really want to do?
You know, make sure they run smoothly.
So this show up on I'm there.
This is a backup talent at that point.
You know, someone cancels it gets her.
I'll throw my head and my hat in there.
Just to be like, all right, I guess I'll put this bandana on.
Here we go.
I guess twist my arm.
Damn it.
Not.
I don't pay myself.
So we were talking about that about ring wars, but the first promotion that you own was IWE,
right?
I figured that would come up.
Yeah.
I ran and roamed and operated.
If you didn't know, I was operated by to be for nine years.
Literally one of the last shows I ran was an anniversary show and I wasn't even financially
involved.
I was just I was helping with the booking at that point.
The transition already happened.
But yeah, for many a year I owned and operated it until I sold it to John the bomb and Sonny
Roselli.
So can you talk about like why like like what made you think like I'm going to, you know,
start my own company and have, you know, continue on what's going on?
Well, you don't know this, but originally it started out of necessity.
IWE started out of a necessity because at one point Sonny and Larry were like the only
game in town.
They were running together.
Now at the time that was NAWA, which is what Larry still runs now.
They were all the game in town.
And then back in that time, there was an athletic commission still.
So you had to pay your five hundred dollars a year promoters license.
Every wrestler had to pay sixty dollars for a wrestling license.
Every referee had to pay twenty dollars for a referee license and every manager had to
pay ten dollars for a manager's license.
I'm so glad I started after that was gone.
It was such a headache.
And then they would take ten percent of your gate.
That's so my gosh, dude.
So you know what New York is like?
Basically, it's like that, but probably more money.
It's a scheme.
But anyway, they would they'd come in.
You'd have to have someone that was first aid or NCPR trained on your staff or there
to help with the event to do your blood pressure and check all your stuff.
And it had to be documented and given to the state official when he came there.
And they were always very nice, especially Albion.
He was very nice guy.
Love them today.
That goes way back.
I'll tell you that story if you want later.
But let's keep with this current one.
I had to drink my coffee.
I had a coffee drinker.
So anyway, the big thing was that was part of the reason why a lot of wrestling has slowed
down at one point.
Another one is is it's not it's expensive to run shows and some shows to be a hit and
some would be a miss.
I remember a show.
I wrestled Larry in a tables match and Prescott, Maine at the forum.
Oh, God.
Hundreds of people there is packed.
I think Honky Tonk Man was on the show.
It was a really great show, even though there was a match that was even a lower card match
was like Prozac versus Tommy Lane, which is kid TNT back then.
And even that was a good match.
Like, you know, there was great even the work like the matches you were going to be great
were great.
It was good as a whole.
But then we did a show the next week and it was in like Milo, Maine and drew like 50 people
from hundreds to like 50.
And it was just disheartening.
And I could see that in with Sonny and he didn't end up wanting to run much after that.
And I used to be like the head of the ring crew at the time.
And I was like, well, what about Dino's?
Because back when I ran city side, which is what I to be was, it was called Dino's Pizza.
And that's where he used to do the TV tapings because we were on TV at one point with NWA
WH slash when it turned into NWA.
And he's like, I don't know.
He's like he was really I could see he was really frustrated and didn't really want to
run shows at the time.
And I offered I was like, well, Dino's is like 15, 20 minutes from my house.
My dude let me run a show there.
It's like you got a ring.
Let me use the ring.
We'll split it right down the middle.
Like I'll do all the footwork.
You supplied a ring.
Blah, blah, blah.
He's like, I don't really want to run shows.
But well, you've got the licensing.
So it saved me having to pay for a promoter's license because he had one.
And so I worked it out with them.
We split it all down the middle.
Everything, even the profits that we made, which at the time wasn't much because there
were so athletic commission.
We sought to pay everybody.
Anyhow, first show kicked off.
I did all the footwork.
I was hawking tickets.
So was Johnny Primer and Scotty Vegas was Alexander Lee.
We were all hawking tickets.
We packed a good 150 in there for the first show he did at Dino's.
And so he was having a big and shit, but he didn't.
He still didn't really want to run anymore.
So I offered at the end of the show, I said, look, I'll give you my half of the profits
and I can pay you out for the ring and buy the ring out from you.
He said, if you want to do that.
So at the end of the night, he took his half.
I gave him what was half of my money.
Even I even my money.
I got back from all the money I spent.
I gave him that.
And every time I ran a show, it was every other month.
So I was running the show every time I ran the show at the end of the night, I give him
my part to put toward the rate costs one day and to the show.
OK, in the last bit of money, I'm like all paid off.
He goes, yeah.
Next show came and the night came.
He thought he was getting a piece of the pie.
I was like, I'm sorry, man.
I paid you off.
I do all the work for this show.
And at that time, you have to make a commission.
Ironically, at that same time, the athletic commission shut down.
I didn't need a promoter's license.
I also didn't need wrestling licenses anymore.
Yeah, it just happened to coincide at the right time when I paid off Sonny for the ring.
And I kept running Dino's because I had already had the Dino's had changed hands.
It was to new owner to are slowly turning it into city side.
They just kept the Dino's LLC because they bought the place.
And I already set up with the owners that, hey, if I decide to run here monthly, how
would you feel about that?
They loved it because I'm bringing over 100 people in every night, every once a month.
And they're making all the food and beverage money.
And they said, as long as they run once a month, they were cool with it.
So I'd already had a good rapport with them.
I officially own the rings.
I bought off Sonny.
I didn't need Sonny for his promoter's license anymore.
I mean, it sounds kind of bad, but I kind of just like, dude, I well, why would I give
you money?
Because I did all the work.
I did everything.
So why am I giving you a cut?
I own the ring now.
So early after that, Sonny stopped wrestling and I contribute that to my being my fault
that he got back in later on because he started working with the civil these with NWM fire.
You know, things like that.
And I was still using everybody.
I was no hard feelings for me and Sonny.
He just saw like I paid him off.
I don't think you expect me to pay him off and finally buy out the ring.
But that was my goal was to buy it out.
And I had already had wheels in motion to start my own promotion.
We were running under the NAWA banner and I was slowly turning it into IWE because I
thought all about the time the new year comes and I haven't paid off.
I'm going to have to get my own promoter's license.
So it's like by the time the new year comes, I'll get my own new license and all that.
And then athletic commission collapsed and I didn't have to do that.
So that was the starting blocks for IWE.
It was it was it was messy, but I got it there.
You know, I had a direction I wanted to go.
And what was the timeline between you wanting to run the shows and you paying off Sonny
essentially like for the ring and everything?
Like how many shows do you think did you run between that start and then officially everything
just being like on your own?
Well here is the irony, because half like I remember about a half a year, maybe six
or about six to eight months went by.
I was still doing my the NAWA to IWE transition.
And I already had brought in my own belts and we're calling them IWE tag team titles
or IWE this IWE that and was easing out the NAWA titles because those were technically
belts that were owned by Larry.
Oh, never was big enough and bringing my own in slowly, but surely.
So this way I had say over what went on with them, because at one point I had to clear
everything with them because these are still their belts, their wrestling licenses.
Well, the wrestlers wrestling license, but their promoters license, you know, so I had
to still clear everything with them before I did anything.
But when I finally got it all like situated where I had my own belts, paid off Sonny,
I was doing all the work myself with added help from Alexander Lee and Johnny Primer
because they were helping do some of the footwork, like put up postures and help sell tickets
because we were like the three amigos, we all traveled together all the time.
We were moving in our own direction.
Sonny called us to land the misfit toys for many a year because we had such a ragtag group
of people and I was like, there was all people that wanted it.
There's a bunch of guys from all across New England and Canada that just were not getting
work that wanted to get work.
And I just wanted to have a place to run a show once a month so that we A, we can get
the work and B, keep this wrestling thing going.
Because at the time no one was running, A, no one wanted to pay the fees and B, there
was just, there was no one around.
I'll give it to them.
Sonny and Larry were the only people in town that wanted to do anything.
They were like Motel 6, they cut the light off.
And I mean, they kept it going for many a year until I decided to take the ball and
preferably run with it and not stop running for like nine years.
And you only had like a few people too that only ran like one set of Blue Moon shows at
the time too.
Yeah.
I think it was Christian Nickerson who run All Out Mayhem.
He ran like one or two shows a year.
Same thing with Tony.
He ran like one here, one there.
He was kind of on the back end of the shows.
And then Larry would still do an occasional show here or there for like fundraisers and
stuff that he had or fairs that he had.
And that was about it.
So from, it went from them leaving the light on to me, constantly leaving the light on
with IWE.
I remember we, I got Joe McBrady on board to help me get a website built and started
and a domain name bought.
He was part of the McNasty's, they were a tag team and he started helping me with that.
I got Marion Lawless on board doing our graphics work and things like that.
So we had that going.
Mr. Mike, who was no longer with us, was our video guy.
He would do all our video work.
God rest his soul.
He would do all the video work.
We had a group of people.
I got people lined up doing the right jobs, doing the right thing.
Demian Main also got rest his soul was my ring announcer for many a year.
We had our things rolling.
I ended up acquiring at one point the Fairfield building.
Because I was running D and I was in Fairfield, Larry and Sonny were still running there on
occasion and I remember they ended up, we had a weekend planned where I was going to
work together with them.
I think we're bringing in Spike Dudley back then.
I got Spike Dudley through Jay Gillette because they were good friends.
Mike would drive up.
So I would use him every once a year for a weekend.
I was like, Hey, you guys want to use them on a Friday?
I'll use them on Saturday in Brewer.
You can use them in Friday and Fair and we worked it out.
And something happened where they wouldn't didn't want to run the show.
And I said, well, it's still a month before the show's gonna happen.
I'll do it.
Like, yeah, I'm like, yeah.
So I already had all my wheels in motion for my show.
So I would personally go down there and do the street work.
They already had a deposit paid for the building.
So I paid the building their money so that we can have the show happen.
We got everything going.
Show it really drew just as good as Brewer did.
We had about 150 in there for that.
So I was like, I can do this once a month in a weekend.
Friday in Fairfield, Saturday in Brewer.
And I did that same tandem roughly for nine years.
Yeah, those double shot weekends were, you know, the you didn't really get that anywhere
else in Northeast doing it back to back at all.
And you don't see it now.
You don't you don't see that even up here now anymore.
So it's like those are one of those like bittersweet moments that once, you know, we started wrestling.
It was like, cool, we get to wrestle not just once, but twice in a weekend.
Yeah.
And from there, I started picking up more venues and fairs over the years.
I picked up.
I remember at one point, we were wrestling four to six times a month sometimes.
And it was crazy.
It was wild.
I remember the first time I rebuilt the bridge with the Scali and Fair was not Larry has.
I remember they only wanted me for like a week's roughly a week for the dates, not the
whole thing.
And I plugged in shows and the dates they didn't have me so that we had like 14 day
stretch of just wrestling.
Wow.
That's a lot.
That is a lot.
It was a lot.
But I would hate myself.
They think you guys don't get it like we all love it back in the day.
And that much work because now people are like, oh, after one day, like I'm hurting.
I'm like, oh, take all this time off to the shows.
And then I'm two days.
I'm like, you know what?
It's too hot for this.
I'm good.
And now this next what?
Not this weekend.
Like we're in right now, but the next following two weekends, there's like four wrestling
shows.
Yeah.
And I'm just like, I look at my wrestling back to back like three, like two weekends.
Like, I don't know if I can handle all this.
I'm not going to all of them, but my own, the one I'm hosting and that might change
if someone cancels.
So we're going to be feeling it.
I mean, almost 40.
So I'm not even do any bumps.
And I was like, why do I fucking hurt?
Why do I hurt so bad?
Like, I didn't do shit.
Like I'm like, I feel old.
Well, they say every, every time we all take a hit or bump or whatever, it's almost like
we're putting our body through a car wreck with a 35 mile car wreck or something like
that.
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, I feel now.
I see it.
See a chiropractor like twice a month.
Cause literally every time I probably should do that.
Because I'm on Mike, you know, almost four and a plan right now I'm 365 pounds.
But every time I bump, I literally can feel my ribs dislocate, which is very common.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
It doesn't hurt now.
First happened.
I was like, what the fuck?
Oh, no, Mike.
Oh, this is fine.
I'll see you on Monday.
She probably back.
And that's what she does.
No, I wasn't out.
No, no, no, no doubt.
I'm like, that's awesome.
Right back.
And I'm like, it is a little English lady named Cheryl.
She pops this pops him back in.
I'm like, how are you?
I'm like three of you put together.
How are you doing?
She doesn't pop some red back up.
I got the powers.
Oh shit.
Yeah, I mean, it was quite a time for about nine years before I sold her.
What would you say is your most successful show?
That's what I was going to ask your favorite and most successful show depends on what you
mean by successful.
You mean financially or do you mean emotionally or mentally?
Emotionally would be and I always say this and some people remember it.
Some people don't be the night that I had Robbie Ellis win the heavyweight title.
I saw video clips of that.
I never got fans crying.
He was crying.
It was an emotional moment like he Robbie and this was like the one in the last year
she was in wrestling because of it.
You know, physical stuff.
He's older.
No, he did on the fly.
I literally remember it took Mr. Candid Ricky Williams, Scotty Vegas was Alexander Lee and
the captain to the side.
I said, this is what I want to do.
I said, hey guys, I know you guys in the main event for the title.
I want Ricky Williams to go over.
But just so I want to happen.
I want Robbie Ellis.
So he wrestled earlier in the night again.
It was going to be Russell early night against Zach Mercury.
He was a big dude, huge guy.
And I'm peeler.
We're going to believe it.
But when he beat him, but he beat him and he got a huge reaction.
I'm like, this is what I want to do.
I want him to come out.
He's in his street clothes.
Is he already Russell?
He comes out to stand up for Scotty Vegas because you cheated with the hockey stick
stands up for him.
And you know, he, the captain says, if you guys want to throw down, just throw down right
here right now.
We should bring that bell and have a Robbie Ellis, kick him low, put them up in the slice
spread referee slides in one, two, three out of nowhere.
Huge pop.
I don't know if these two know if in case like you guys don't feel like cats like open
out his computer, like researching that Robbie.
Yeah.
I'm literally trying to find the matches.
We're talking about imagine the Rick flair of Maine.
That's all I have to say.
Yeah.
Literally it worked out.
Um, say like I called it, Ricky Williams, the hockey stick, the wind, uh, boos happens
all comes out all upset and, uh, Robbie Ellis slides in to check on Scotty Vegas, make sure
he's okay.
Well, Ricky Williams gets in Robbie Ellis's face and Robbie Ellis is like, Oh, they get
something like you remind your own business.
I'm trying to help him.
Blah, blah, you're trying to stay out of it.
And then he shows Robbie Ellis and captain's like, and then Robbie L shoves him back and
captain's like, Oh, if you guys are going to do this, you're going to happen here.
It happens.
Don't make it happen right now.
And as he says right now, Robbie Ellis kicks Ricky Williams right in the Dinkus, grabs
them and hits them with a slice spread.
Imagine someone like Rick flair's age.
Like Rick's doing a slice spread.
It's a slice spread.
Boom.
He's on top for the pin one, two, huge pop on three.
Uh, like that third hit the mat.
I went deaf.
They just, people got, people are standing, yelling like, yeah, they couldn't believe
it.
And, uh, we had the referee once the referee gave him the belt and he is standing, standing
there as everybody's giving the hot reaction.
We had the baby faces clear out the locker room and hoist them up and do the deal.
He was crying.
He was emotional.
Fans were chanting.
You deserve it.
It was a hot moment.
Real hot.
And I say, that was a really great moment.
Um, just because the emotional feel and how loud it was and your reaction.
And at the time, which was sad, it's cause he had just wrapped his, he had documentary
called the canvas man and they had just been, it just wrapped.
They just done doing it.
And that would have been the cake topper.
He said he was just out back.
He said, he doesn't agree.
He hugged me and he thanked me so much.
And he felt like it was a payoff.
He never held a heavyweight title his entire career in the state of Maine.
He'd been around for years and he, uh, he thanked me a lot.
And he, I just remember him saying, like, I would wish I waited.
It's like, what for the, for the wrapping of the documentary and that should have been
the ending.
It should have been the ending.
Yeah.
The greatest moment for me financially, that wasn't a great, like that was just a normal
day.
Like we had probably about two or probably about 180.
And then there for that show is it was anniversary weekend.
So it's a packed house.
Right.
That's a fitting show for that.
Yeah.
And it was the anniversary.
It was an anniversary weekend.
So it felt right.
You know, um, I tried to do big things when it was our yearly anniversary, which I also
was in January.
It's like a time to write my careers on purpose.
If there's one thing you could change during your time running, what would you change?
I would have not done television.
Uh, are you talking about like arts, like my time when we did television?
I w there was two runs of IWTV.
One of them was for a long time.
It was like Saturdays at noon on Fox 22.
You know, like that was the, the, the, the, I would get wrestlers to do those.
Like I got once an honky tonk man and Savio Vega, Bushwagon, we go on Saturdays at noon
on Fox 22.
Like you could remember the slogan and we did it for years.
And then, uh, the reason why I wish we'd never did TV was just the cost and the time.
Yeah.
Um, we have plenty of footage from all the shows around.
That wasn't the issue.
The editing was, was where it came down to.
I would literally sit at a computer for an entire day.
I'd get up and let them walk in the morning and be on my computer.
It's like eight o'clock at night, just doing edits, graphics and commentary.
So an entire day I'd be looking at a computer for doing an hour's worth of TV time.
And then I would have to pay for it when I dropped it off.
I'd have to pay for it when I drop it off.
And that was, that was the first thing I did that for.
Remember like years, like three years.
That just rained me, drained me.
Everybody was like, Oh, I can't be too bad.
It's pretty bad.
Like when you, like hours TV show, cause there's layers you have to do.
You have to edit the video first and you have to edit to a certain time to fit in the time
slot because what I, when you pay with the TV station, Jane P may know some of this stuff
because I worked there the second time.
Yeah.
So you, you have to have a certain amount of time to fit that time slot.
So they have to also add transitions on their ends, but that time slot is yours.
So you can sell your own advertisement time, which was cool.
And you have commercials in your insides.
So the sponsorship commercials from like local garages or restaurants, nothing, nothing
crazy.
Um, and, but it was a lot of that was a lot of that was advertisement time for the, for
those four to six shows I was going to run that month.
So I, uh, that was the one thing that killed me was just sitting there every week doing
that on top of still working a full time job.
Kids was married at one point, depending what time there was in part was married, part was
divorced, you know, um, and this a lot, it just drained me like having to sit
too, right?
Like they got, they got, there were some times that, uh, your show wouldn't even air too.
Yeah, what happened is cause it's on the weekend.
Yep.
What else is on the weekend?
Sports.
So they would bump me into the following week and some of it was time sensitive.
Like when I would say, Oh, tonight in Brewer main, cause we'd be at like we air at noon,
say Saturdays at noon and we had a show that night.
I would make it time sensitive.
So that would be a promo bank like someone like if you're cutting a promo on somebody
tonight in Brewer main, I'm going to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Like whatever you're going to say, well, didn't air because there was a football game that
ran too long or, or tennis or something.
There was some stupid things.
What's the priority?
Even though we had been there for three years.
Yeah.
Anyway, we're going to air it on YouTube, which is great.
Cause our YouTube had quite a following at one point.
I don't know what happened to that now.
Cause when I sold the company, I turned everything over.
The only thing I didn't turn over was one of my email addresses.
Cause it had my personal, uh, like information on it, but I could not, yeah, like payments
and stuff.
I was like, I can't give you that.
And I can give you all this website, Facebook page, all the hard drives.
I'll tell you the YouTube channel fell way off the wagon after you sold it.
So it, but it recovered over time and then it, and then it dropped again.
There was a huge following on that thing.
Yeah.
Because we would air our episodes, right?
Like literally I would set it up so that I would have, I would upload it.
Let's say I've aired it Saturday at noon.
I would update it.
I would upload, you can upload it and just not make it public.
Right.
I'd upload it.
And then literally when I would get to city side, I'd get the city side early to do the
website update while I'm sitting there having lunch.
And I would make the video public soon as I got there.
So they literally, Oh, Saturday at noon.
Yeah.
Guess what?
Sometimes it was up before the TV show was on.
So sometimes you got it lucky, but every Saturday it would be up there.
I could do it from my, I could do it from my laptop, my phone now.
But back then I had to do it from my laptop.
But yeah, it was a, it's still there.
And then if they didn't air it on the TV station, I'd make them hold it and there at the next
week.
So if some people, so people always saw the storyline progression, there was always storyline
going on.
And we did some really cool things.
Um, there's stories I didn't get to do, which I wish I did.
Like there was a thing where we had a Joseph primer was hobo Joe as his character.
And we're going to do a thing where he won by body slamming Brutus.
He won the, the like $5,000 body slam challenge.
We're going to take him shopping.
We're going to take him to like, he's going to see it show him walking down the street
and he looks up and you hear this back of the, the band, you're going to go, Oh, you
turn it's like KFC.
We'll go further down the road.
He's just walking.
He's eating the bucket of chicken.
He drops the bucket.
Oh, it shows like pizza hut.
And then finally the big, big, he's eating a pizza, goes down the road.
He flings a pizza and runs and he goes, Oh, I met the Holy grail.
And it's Walmart.
It's a stuff like that I wanted to produce that I've been funny and entertaining.
There's things we did that were some like we did the, uh, the spoof power rager videos
that were hilarious and horribly horrible, but those videos were terrible, but I got
so much view counts and, uh, Marion Wallace is Lord lawless.
I'm going to dig in.
Just there would be common.
There was stuff for kids.
There was stuff for adults.
We did like the suffer adults, like Ricky Williams and cactus and a barbed wire rope
match where we took the ropes off and had the barbed wire.
That was gruesome.
And we really warned people for like, Oh, while we're putting up the, no one left, we
took the ropes down and we ran those barb.
We ran the barbed wire through.
We warned people for a good whole entire 25 minutes of them putting them barbed wire
out.
Like this is going to be violent and bloody.
If you do not want to say nobody left.
I think people came in from the bar next door.
Like we got to watch this.
I got it.
I got to throw this up real quick just because I had found it immediately.
This is so terrible.
And I probably then look thing.
Disney did not own power into this time.
This is so terrible.
Oh,
Hey, the kids love the dog.
Wait till we get to the, the best part.
This is all behind the behind city side.
All the backs of the random back dumpster.
This is the best part.
Oh, shit.
We had a new kid stuff too, man.
We did a lot of adult shit.
I made sure we did kids.
Like we ran talk with the robot and so many times.
Oh yeah.
They love them.
This is so horrible.
It's easy.
Who was in the red power suit?
Who do you think it was?
I'll tell you after the video is over.
I can tell you who's in every one of those and you know all three of them and all of
them still currently involved in wrestling.
I'm in the red.
Yes.
I guess it was in the green.
I couldn't even tell the other two to be honest.
The green one was a name.
Oh no.
And the white one was Frankie flash.
Yeah.
I would have never guessed that.
It's like about three people that are still currently involved in wrestling some way,
shape or form.
We did cheating things like that just for kids, man.
It was great.
And I know the there's the adult audience are like, oh, this is terrible.
But then we do, like I said, we would do a barbed wire rope match and they'd be like,
you know, like it was crazy.
Then we did the steel cage shows, stuff like that.
Like we did stuff for both sides of the fence.
You know, I brought shockwave in one time and then I turn around and I don't know.
I'd bring a movie.
I'll be bringing over time.
It was what was the biggest name you brought under IWB in your time?
I don't know how would you vary a biggest name like most successful or most biggest
draw?
Like whether they were in WWE or was like the hottest thing at the time, depending on
the hottest thing I ever got was it was a before viral going viral and viral.
We had we had honky tonk man up a lot.
But I remember a local newspaper catching wind of me bringing up honky tonk man for
Sean Fairfield.
And literally, I want to say this is a small time newspaper.
Literally every newspaper in the state picked up this article and put it in their papers.
So like a full spread across the board, full buckshot.
So I went from one small town local newspaper to Fairfield and then went everywhere.
It was like the morning sent more something and it went everywhere.
And because of that, we had a packed house in Fairfield.
It was like 250 people in there from Tom.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
And this is back before viral went viral.
Like that was a thing.
Like I was just like, oh my God.
I remember because I think me and Sonny were putting this show on together and this was
a totally different time where Sonny came back and wanted to be a part I to be help
out.
And we were meeting Sonny, I think, tagged up to face honky.
I think Jay Gillette and that was the tag.
I can't remember.
But a minute, there was a good show, man.
It was all around the show and great response.
And we carried that over to run their monthly, literally for a few months.
We're having 200 plus crowds after that, because people put in the back.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Here's a name for you.
I'm sure you remember this one.
One more nation.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I will give him credit, though.
He did draw me two hundred and thirty six people at Cityside.
Oh, OK.
But this is what he.
It's construed some information.
So when I first got contacted by him, I was informed like he was like a body double in
WCW for.
For the warrior.
And that's why he called it one more nation, because I was like the worst thing in WCW.
That's what I thought.
That's what I was told.
And I was like, OK.
I saw I saw pictures of him.
I didn't realize until I saw my personal shorty was.
I saw him.
He was like on the pictures with that.
He sent me.
He looked great.
I was like, I can see this.
And now that back then, there's no way to check that stuff.
No, not like now.
So I was like, you know, I'll bring them in.
And he drew a huge crowd.
And I'll say this every time after that, he still drew me like 200 people.
And he kind of brought him in.
I had to stop using him because of an incident that happened.
And Kyle just pulled up the best video.
I don't know, you can't really put the audio on here because you have a copyright issue
because of the stuff, the warrior music.
But like, yeah, it's going right.
Well, the first time he came in, I didn't have him wrestle.
Ricker, I think I had a first time to bring him in a Brighton, Russ and JJB.
And if you could find that video, I don't know if you can find it.
It's the reason his work name was the real JJB.
And he wrestled one warrior nation.
And if you could hear the reaction from those 236 people, it was deafening.
I remember I put God rest his soul.
Joey Glitz with one warrior nation to stay with him for when he went out to do mergers.
There's a line of people.
He was selling all this shit.
I know.
I remember Joey Glitz walking out back and I'm like, what are you doing?
He was just fumbling around in his pants.
He empties out his pockets and wads of money just fall on the floor.
I'm like, what the fuck?
He's like, this ain't mine.
I wish it was like, who's that?
He's like, that's his money.
And then he comes in and in like this little thing, he had his pictures
and he just drops it and there's money falling out everywhere.
Is this the.
Way for his entrance.
You feel a little loud.
I remember.
Oh, thank you.
You guys.
Speak.
I'm easily scared.
Sound quality is terrible on my end.
Yeah, I can get turned down the volume like that's loud.
Turns out the volume of the ideas that.
He was so fired up, he was blown up after the entrance.
I imagine because it was short and just like
free from Mary.
It's hard.
Like this is like when he sent me pictures, he was having a bodybuilder.
I didn't.
I was like, you know, I believe that I didn't know
because back then you couldn't vet this stuff.
Now you can bet everything on the internet.
They could look shit out in person.
You look at him and you're like, oh, yeah, he was mad.
So yeah, he's mad short.
But he got a huge reaction and he can't.
He drew me a crowd every time.
And man shockwave, they were great.
Like I try to do things that back then I was being in an entertainment value.
So when they're bringing a lot of, you know, family stuff
because we were at a family fucking restaurant like
in, you know, like I didn't want to.
I was like, let's keep a family.
And then I was like, OK, let's start doing more adulty stuff like
fans were in the weapons matches and cage matches and barbed wire stuff.
Like there was times
I was infatuated, all depends.
I'll depend on what was going on.
What was trending in the world?
I did. I was a bit about listening to the news and figuring out what was hot
and what was not.
So what would you say was your your best
creative storyline, whether it was you involved
or something that you made for somebody in IWE?
What would you say was like your best storytelling from start to finish?
The creation of
of not just Graves, but also the faces of Graves. Oh,
the whole deal, because it went from Graves started as just a mass character
because Primor is trying to reinvent himself again.
And one of his many gimmicks he likes to do.
The man of the thousand.
Lots of love and death.
But he had a lot of gimmicks and he knows
Johnny would hope in a brother.
Some I won't stay.
But anyway, we'll go to let's go to Graves.
Graves is the character from the man called Graves.
He just wanted to call Graves.
He wanted to have like the other
singlet with the skulls and the tombstones and the, you know, stuff on it.
He came out with a kind of stick, had the skull mask.
That's why I called him Graves.
But I used to I used to love the old WCW song from that Sting used to come out
to called the man called Sting.
So I used to like that joke around.
I used to fuck with him going, man, call Graves.
You know, stop. You know, I'm not kidding.
I'm having the announcer.
Sounds like the man called Graves.
He didn't believe me until I had him start doing it.
Well, eventually, Primer didn't want to do it.
They would do the gimmick anymore and take the mask off.
And I'm like, well, we should move the gimmick to somebody else.
I can do the gimmick. So that's already established.
He's like, what a good idea.
So I bought the stuff off of them and I had.
A guy who had been
who was back at the time was training at chaotic or New England
Pro Wrestling Academy.
And he'd been trying to even call.
He lived in Maine and he was trying to get on the shows
and come to shows about you just want to get some work in.
I said, hey, you want to do this character.
It's already established.
You don't have to wrestle right off, but I'll put you in tags
and get you more acquainted and get you going.
Well, he started doing it.
Well, then he started making the gimmick himself.
And that's how
Skylar Graves became a thing.
Siler Graves, Siler Skylar, Siler, Siler, Graves, Siler.
Yeah, I got it right here.
I remember the first show ever saw it was like Fairfield
and because he made it his own, because he made it his own.
The fans started like getting behind him.
It was very like
Crow Sting, when it first came out, people started getting behind him.
And I was like, all right, that's cool.
This he would wear the black and white paint and he'd have that.
He'd go through different hairstyles.
Sometimes you had to braid it.
Sometimes you didn't.
He had the Kendo stick.
He just had a cool following, cool entrance.
We did the lights and smoke form at times.
And he's had a hell of a following and he was he was catching some steam.
So I was all right.
Let me capitalize on that.
Well, as Graves progressed, I was like he became
eventually became a heel instead of a baby face.
I'm do a turn on me.
And I said,
a young MSP who had been training
were trying to get their
foots in the doors and had bought these like outfits, these skeletal outfits.
Now it's like, oh,
I'm like, we got to come with that and we got to tie it in with with with Graves,
because Graves is paint like face paint, match their whole entire outfits
and they fit so well.
And I was like, we got to do something with it.
We got to do something with it.
And they came up with the
was it Scully and humorous were the names.
You know, like we got we got to give you a better
we got to give you a tag name.
And I was like, we're going to call you the fog.
Like, what's the fog?
I'm like, well, you're going to be like this because whenever you
the black and the black and white paint, because Graves used to wear
sometimes a split paint once every black, once every white.
And while your outfits are black and white,
so it's like one sides, one personality, one side, the other ones
will call you the faces of Graves.
Get it to pieces of his face, faces of Graves, the fog.
So it's abbreviation.
And they're like, that's awesome.
And I'm a scully one with humorous.
And they would come out like little gargoyles and be as little minions,
like the parts of his personality that had split off
because he turned against the fans and me.
And it just worked out great.
So I could I could not just I can then wrestle the fog
sometimes or then I could wrestle Graves along with other people.
I would pull in to the to the story.
We could do that, too.
And it just it also allowed a young
MSP to get tag work under a hood
without people knowing it's them.
And they were double.
They would work. They would work to.
Well, they were they hadn't yet.
If you remember, they hadn't yet developed themselves.
No, because they didn't know what they want to do with themselves.
They were just over myself and many others
had given them pieces to the puzzle.
Like if you remember,
a daggora was a young Amon Jordan on Jordan.
I came up with that name.
I call him simply irresistible.
Amon Jordan, well, then he take the and he tweaked it and made it his own.
And he still used some pieces that now is a nagro.
Yeah. Long live Levi Lexington.
Most of that was Amber.
Yeah. Well, so that was was her coming up with that.
But I gave some pieces to the puzzle and she just ran with it
and made it her own.
I poses guilt and that end up later on becoming a piece of danger kid.
So and the best part was
one of the last acts I had
before I sold the company
was I had guaranteed them that they could be mask as the.
The fog and I was in the room.
I'm not afraid because that was the end of the story of this long
agated when it started from graves.
The graves in the fog.
Eventually, the fog turning on graves because we also bring gang
growling to that as a whole.
Not to the story I did not put in there, but I'll put it in a minute.
And then eventually them taking the mask off
because they eventually won the tag belts to as the fog.
I even put my ex, Sarah DiErica, with them and she
inherited their gimmick.
Remember that? Yep.
We started eating her face up and doing the thing like she was
like controlling them.
You know, it's cool. A little character.
Anyway, people attached to them.
And I feel like that was helped to build the building blocks.
MSP, they really took MSP and made it themselves.
But I feel like this helped them build what their tag chemistry
and built them up without people knowing until they finally took the stuff off.
Once they took the stuff off, it was like, oh,
make it a hell of a reaction when they took those masks off
and finally came to the one thing I was in the ring.
We had lost the tag titles to the months, I believe.
Same time they attacked us.
And that was like they pulled out the tote.
They opened it up and they had all the gear inside of it.
They put it all on and everything.
And I think just look brilliant because you watch them like transfer before.
Exactly. And over on the other side of the fence, they'd already started
developing them individual selves over for Randy when Limitless was in Orono.
Yeah, this is where they had already had already established themselves individually.
Yeah. Then for them to because they weren't doing
doing Ida B stuff as much.
They were still doing the fog here and fog there.
And eventually this kind of like bring both pieces together.
And everybody was like, oh,
like it was an inspiring moment.
I was like, that was the end, the full end of the story.
The part before I was talking about with the gang, we had a part where
Graves turned on the fog like he was done with them.
They were useless to him and they were trying to throw him away like scraps.
And we brought I brought Gangrel up for a show.
Well, the spot was and I remember
because Ben, who used to work at the TV station, I think with you, Nick,
who was training, he was running hand cam for this.
And I remember his face.
We remember we were setting it up and Graves had done all these promos
and Gangrel's come in. Alba was there.
He did an interview early in the day with Gangrel, which aired on the TV station.
And I'm like, oh, this is perfect.
And we get to it and Graves comes out.
Does his entrance lights go out, hear the brood music?
Well, the great the faces of the graves crawl out first.
And they sit there like little gargoyles and Gangrel comes out.
And in between them, he does the blood spot.
It is right in front of everybody.
Perfect shot on the camera.
The leg is covered in the blood.
He got covered.
I just remember him looking over at me because I was running out of the time.
I think I hurt my foot or something.
He looks over at me and he goes.
I mean, he goes.
He's covered in but like fake blood is like
going back to what he's doing.
Covered in blood.
He didn't take the blood off his face till we were done.
Oh, awesome. Like he was like, that was so cool.
Like he would just and I just remember,
you know, Agro and Amber going
and getting like posters and having them sign them
because they can just remember that moment because obviously, like,
it's a really cool moment.
We aired it on TV.
Awesome. It was a cool moment.
And Gangrel the graves then that story.
But there was such a long story over time that started from essentially a character.
No one wanted to do anymore.
So much more.
And the story of the thing about it carried on with MSP as they went on
because they took all that to the end of their story and then started a new story.
Yeah, that's awesome.
That was the coolest thing about the whole deal.
Something that started from a character no one wanted to do anymore.
But that's awesome.
That's awesome.
I'm sorry that took so long, but that's not it.
I was working.
I never knew that.
The only thing that came close.
And I think you remember this the most.
It was the storyline I did with my ex, Sarah.
Yes, because I remember we're all we're all involved in it in a way.
Just because like there was so many parts of it moved around.
And we made reality part of it.
Yeah, well, I had had my heart problems.
And the story was because me and Sarah used to tag as the Capone.
She was Callie. I was Jimmy. I gave her my name.
We were tagging. We were together forever.
And I stopped wrestling.
I had my problems for real, for real.
So I do have a heart condition. So I stopped wrestling. And.
The. We some some we were starting this thing where she wanted to.
She hadn't worked.
Heal yet. Had never been a bad guy before.
And while I do this angle, I showed her this angle, like where she
she becomes mad and angry at me and turns on me.
How do we do that? Well, I almost die from my heart condition.
So I've been I was in the hospital two or three times during that time.
Some of the, you know, my heart issues.
I signed over my wrestling, my rights to my wrestling stuff to her.
But there's something happened this way. She had it.
Well, in the fine print, it took.
I wasn't signing it over in the event that something happened.
I signed it over completely.
And I didn't know it.
So she took my name.
So I couldn't be Jive and Jimmy anymore, which I'd been through.
Not just for years, not just for years, but also on two different TV shows.
Because I was literally I would be on me on Saturdays and noon at Fox 22.
The hour after was to be in the bay on fire.
I literally at one point was on both TV shows back.
And I was there TV jam at one point on on fire.
So like like this whole character I built up for years.
She's taken and I couldn't I had to be myself.
I had to be a plain old Larry Johnson.
And that's I was like, that's the story that started from that.
She took my livelihood, she took my rights.
And then she next thing she was going to take was the company.
And that was the big story.
She was going to try to take it from me.
So I had a few with her and the and we tie in a Nader's here
because she owned the rights to my name.
Yeah, I see you laughing.
You already know what's about to happen.
You know, he made you know, you know, Aidan Andrews, he's like tiny, tiny guy.
Right.
Well, yeah, he came out in my gear
is Javan Jim Andrews, like purple singlet gear
to my dancing to my music.
Pimp Kane and Anna
saying, well, the whole people were so pissed.
Like, like this is and he was he was winning matches
because she would help him win matches.
I mean, too, wasn't that was Javan Jimi Andrews.
Yeah. And then she changed her name.
She wasn't Callie Capone anymore.
She changed it to Sarah DiErico. Yeah. And
it was a big deal.
Like I'm trying to get my like she would throw people at me.
I got to fight the leatherheads.
I had to go through eventually came down to a handicap match.
And it was like if I lost, she'd own the company.
But if I won, she had a 40 for her women's title
and give me back the rights to my name.
Yeah. And I remember
mostly me and Aidan Andrews going out and she would come in
and do things to me here, they're cheating.
And eventually the end of it came to you.
Remember the ending, don't you, JP, because you used to take that spot.
So funny enough, the good old P.O.G.
to the head that one of the most deadliest moves in the crossfire
wrestling, you know, that that's a good way to end a storyline for sure.
And funny, you bring you mentioned that, too, because while you were,
you know, in the middle of that feud, that's
so technically how I got my
camera was definitely this promo.
So from now on, watch where you're going.
Look at that. Oh, little, little JP.
There's a few thousand.
You look fun there.
You know what you want to do?
You know, I was cracking so hard.
You step over it for a second.
I'm yelling at him.
I'm yelling at him because he would constantly run a hand cam for me.
I know. I ran hand cam once.
I ran hand cam once.
It was the steel cage shows that I ran hand cam and I almost got
this with Paul Dowling
that Paul didn't know who I was like a year later after it started.
He forgot who I was.
But like, yeah, never brought that up ever again after that point.
Yeah. The irony with the promo.
But anyway, this is the best part of the promos coming here in America.
Yes. When you run the camera.
Oh, sir. Do I do I look like I'm 50?
I'm 40 now.
That's right. You're getting the P.O.G.
the head. You know what that is?
You know what the P.O.G. is?
Star of God!
The fact is you're pausing now.
The fact that you your feet were up in the air is what popped me.
It was behind that camera, by the way, Randy Carver was my anaconda.
I didn't plan on taking and falling backwards at all.
We just sat down. He's like, you're just going to sit in this promo.
I'm like, OK.
And then we do in the bit.
And as soon as he hit me, I just full instinct
just threw myself back and you see the shitty grin on my face.
I was a poly backwards.
That's funny.
Oh, just doing a little bit of housework, housekeeping here.
Tony Clown call and says, Ni hao everybody.
What a name. I didn't even see that.
And I saw this.
I didn't want to interrupt when you're talking that amazing story.
But so we got somebody says, when you when in IWE working with Captain
Ressus, so was it your favorite match or favorite person you got to be
in the ring with and compete against?
Captain, I got the idea of Ressus, so I'll listen to that.
But I'm actually one of the coolest people.
And we try to run it back and then get the happens.
I end up hurting my foot.
I think I forgot how I hurt my foot.
But anyway, back to the point of hand, me at one point,
I was working avidly trying to get keep in the Chikara
when they came to Maine and New England, I'd be on a lot of other shows.
And then eventually they did a thing called Wrestling is,
which they smaller promotions, kind of like sister promotions.
They were trying to keep people working that didn't get a lot of the work.
And they'd have a couple of guys in the show that were coming out of the factory
of wrestling talent and then guys that were established.
Well, one of the guys that I really like to work with with Jocka.
And we had a really good match a long time ago.
And we try to run it back.
We had a really like, mind you, this match happened and we went like
15, 20 minutes, I think.
I can't remember.
But it was in front of like 30 people in New Hampshire.
It was not a good turnout.
But the match was solid and it was great.
And I had great reaction just for those 30 people.
And we wanted to run it back.
We didn't get to I brought him up and randomly,
Joey Janela was his right along buddy.
They came up to work a show and literally like
the week before I busted my ankle or my foot or something.
And I was in a boot.
Oh, yeah.
But Russell.
So I end up having to like, if you still want to come up, man.
Oh, yeah, we were going to take the week and awful come up.
They came up and I think.
Yeah, I like it.
The most random opponents.
Jocka worked, I think.
McKenna, maybe the first night
and the night he worked graves, which wasn't bad.
But it was not what he was over like we were.
He came up to work me like it was we were playing on run that shit back
for an IW show because we knew it was going to be a good match.
And we wanted to have put in front of some fans and it just don't work out.
Sad, sad, sad.
As for like, if you went personally, like an IW match,
that was a favorite thing for me.
That's hard because I've had so many matches and I to be over the years.
Real, it's a the match that got me to go to Puerto Rico.
I'll say that was me and in Sabio Vega
versus Mark moment and Sonny Roselli.
Sonny and Larry, I think they were the first two.
They were the first two.
Sonny and Larry had already worked for Sabio.
That's how they got the contact and brought him up to me.
And he was doing an IW weekend.
And Sabio got to see me work and he saw my charisma and liked what he saw.
And he's like, that's what got me to go down to Puerto Rico.
And I remember, I think with Michael Abbey came up to me and gave me
compliments on the match was very old school.
And it was it was something that hadn't been brought back in a minute.
It was a match that shocked a lot of people.
They didn't expect that.
And it was good.
It's really good.
And I was very proud of that match.
So I was happy.
It got me to Puerto Rico.
And I went back, I think a couple of times to I talked to Sabio a couple of times after that.
I went back.
It's just it's not cost effective.
Not when especially now.
Nowadays, I don't know.
I had a different time, but that was way.
100 percent that.
Pull money out of your pocket for that one.
Oh, yeah.
Well, also, it was a different time.
Now, I wasn't what it used to be at the time.
Also, wrestling in Puerto Rico wasn't what it used to be at the time.
Like you hear horror stories from way back in the day.
And it's hit some ups and downs.
I've seen I've been on shows down there that were fantastic.
And then there shows that were that were not so good to draw.
But they were I think they're on Telemundo.
So I got to be a part of their one of the TV tapings, which is cool.
That's cool.
Yeah, it's out there.
I think Randy found a little bit of footage.
They had chopped up a match.
It was an Emmy versus the Zion.
See, that's fast.
Short muscular dude.
Let's straight up like a bodybuilder.
But he did like a vampire gimmick or paint and see how that will.
And he spoke English very brokenly.
And we came up with a match and I guess like they want us to go a certain amount of time, which is great.
We went out there and we did our time.
But it was a match for him to make him look good.
And he's let me give him shit.
He's given me shit.
And he gave me too much.
He let me do too much.
And he's like, look at his side like he's trying to defend me because look at my size.
They gave me too much.
So what they did was on the TV show, they chopped the shit out of that video.
It's all highlights of him.
All this shit.
Now, all this is I got to get figured out.
All the cool shit got taken out.
All the care of the medic said I was driving Jimmy down there.
So I'm doing the dance and people are loving me.
I'm coming out and doing the dance and people are loving it.
They cut that out.
They cut everything out.
They don't know what to do.
So they cut out the whole thing.
They cut out the whole thing.
I was like there's something that's going on out there.
I was like, yeah,
that's the way I was getting my ass beat for like 60 seconds on the highway.
Yeah.
Randy found it online.
I'm like, oh,
none of my shit's in there.
That's me.
That match was like 15 minutes or so.
And there's like a sixties,
I got the honey beat my ass.
All right.
I'll go.
Fuck myself.
But I guess.
When I get it.
Now I'm the outside talent.
You know.
time
to
big
There's nice down here
And I'm a big guy and I'm like, oh you so big and
I had a competitive match with him and Sabio loved it and I played the crowd up. It was a shorter crowd
There wasn't a bigger crowd. He loved it that sounds like
So he loves the match night before and it was competitive match up against a big ass dude
I left with a short body belt a dude and he chopped the shit out of a match only 60 seconds to be getting my ass beat
Now I
Probably know this question, but we like to ask what is the worst bump you ever taken and what is the worst bump?
You ever seen and I think I know the worst bump you ever taken
What's the bomb you think that is the chair shot the chair the chair spot
We split your head open
Yeah
Owens that
Where I split my head open where I got power driven this time this time and it didn't help that the chair was old
a lot of chairs I had at at at
city side back in the day were ones I'd accumulated over the years from like buyouts from places that were closing or
donated because city side only had like
80 chairs or something at one point and they didn't buy more and better ones over time
But I wouldn't just accumulating chairs like equipment rental places. I'm like, hey, you got a chair to try to get rid of
They're like old not good anymore. Okay, cool
And I buy them I go through them and put the ones aside that were busted that like okay guys
You could get someone with this but don't sit in it. Fuck so but this chair was old
And me and camera Matthews used to used to tear it up back in the day and we used to do it
And we had a couple good matches with two good good matches
It's supposed to be like the tiebreaker and this is like over a couple years span
And we were doing the three stages of hell match and I remember in the last stage
This was supposed to happen
I'm supposed to take the pile driver on this chair
And this is like a desperation pile driver. We're both lay there and
as we both pull ourselves up, I
Just barely pulled myself like the Rocky Balboa Apollo Creed finished
Well
that didn't happen because he went to pow-driving and
Started I don't know was a miss time or maybe I was too sweaty to wrestling for three stages of hell
We're wrestling and I'm sweaty as hell. We just gone through parts in this last part went up as my feet went up
He was already going down
And when he went down where he landed on the chair, there's video. Oh, no
Watch you'll see my full I'm gonna start it
I'll put it to play by play here as you go through it here slowly watch the miss time
There's supposed to be the tease. Yeah, and he's was a fall over
he and as we go up and so he didn't let for me to go all the way up and
He already started going down. Well, what you don't see is when the legs of the chair was sticking up
Or a bracelet was sticking up
How does me it hit now you can play it full speed you'll see me
You know see me roll right over boom it gouged me in the head
It's what it did. So that's why I'm laying there and I'm looking at telling Chris Barry like I
Think I'm busted cuz I thought I thought was hot
Stuff coming from my head
So my instant I was just keep my hands there and apply pressure
So if you look my hands stay there and I have to this is me telling telling Cameron Matthews do not roll over
He goes why is that? I'm like you're going to roll in my blood
Because I think I'm busted open
Over any seat. He's like, let me see so I move my hands. You see I move my hands
He's let me see and he goes. Oh, yeah. Nope
Over I'm looking at Barry. I'm like Barry
Better start counting he ran out of the ring
To tell somebody but then he comes back in and he starts counting. You'll see Barry come back in and he'll start counting
Oh
Medical help like that. Oh maybe it already happened
That was I think the holy roller
Watching the match from the curtain. He was the first one and he grabbed a towel and just applied pressure to my head
I can't lost about
The they said I lost about a half a gallon of blood out of my head
I was gonna say this this the immediate how much how much blood you see immediately
You see a pool of blood in the ring. Yeah, and they were just grabbing towels and napkins anything they could find
I was with Sarah at the time and I remember once they got me out of there
There was like a pool of blood and I was like, oh my god
I was like, oh my god, I'm like, oh my god. Oh my god
There was like a pool of blood in the ring and this isn't this is a vinyl canvas
So it like it doesn't absorb anything. It's easy clean
We did that on purpose because we used the ring so often the canvas so often
They would we'd might pop it off or what spray it down and wipe it off
Things like that. So it'd be nice and easy to clean. Well, pull the blood up in one spot
So she had a click she had to clean it up was don't want to clean it up hair bus afraid to
Clean it all up. Oh, yes, uh
14 stitches
14 stitches my god in my head. Yeah, I think I never saw this
I've heard of the story. Just never seen. Yeah, I've never seen either
It was to a point where
So many people from the show
Called the hospital because the hospital right around the corner, right?
And they had to call the restaurant to tell people that to tell them to tell people to stop calling
Because like everybody in the audience was calling the hospital. This is a 24 minute video and that
they waited for the the ambulance to come and
They wheeled me out and everybody stayed outside. They give me a round of applause. Holy
The whole crowd stayed man. It was a wild time the whole crowd stayed to cheer me on because I fucking I'd be
Looking very very did the 10-pound you missed that part the berry doesn't take down
any time
I mean me and me and Cameron Matthews never finished this like this
I don't know. This is a timeout time limit draw. I just said count. I told him to count it so he was in the mouth like both
Yeah
I don't know. Maybe that was I sounded like primer doing on the fly the time of the draw to and then I
It was it was it was a lot of blood
Yeah, 14 so here's cool. Here's the irony of that after I got taken to the hospital
Because I'm still in gear and everything and I left everything there
And
Everybody help pack like everybody was really good about our way how pack up and take everything what funny thing is
Cameron Matthews shows up to the hospital partially in gear
That makes her I'm okay. I'm like, yeah, I'm fine. He's getting pictures of it my head
things like that
There's a damn indentation of a head because it cut through my skin and a muscle tissue and dug into my skull
Oh my god, well, I got gouged in the head
Because they said it looks like I got
Something jab me in the head
You got Abby
Except it was with an actual metal
There
So so from worse from worse
Like that's not even the worst in dish in your injury you can probably find
The worst injury I would have to say that sucked just because I was in the hospital
I would have to say that sucked just because of the aftermath you probably find the video. It's me
Against Tim Lennox
I think it's me versus Tim Lennox in Canada or I break my ankle. I literally land on my own leg
The canvas is in Rumbles Jason Rumbles bring in Canada for a VCW show
I think it was me versus Tim Lennox and Tim like Tim Lennox took takes the world wake, which is that swinging sidewalk slam?
I do
He took it fine the problem I think that's what it was I can't remember I think that's what it was
But I went to do it and the canvas wasn't tight
And it's one of those old like canvas canvases that if you don't hold tight, it starts to bunch up
If my boot gets stuck I
Go down
Like goes underneath me and doesn't look you can't kick out because caught in the fucking canvas
And I bucked my leg finish the matter all over get the pen. I tell him not to kick out
Okay, you found it. I was looking for this is it
The same might be my big sound of I wrestle one or two times. They'll be toward the end
Look for the finish. That's how you know
Because I can't get up at one point
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be right near the ending where I can't get up
Like I literally tell Tim to stay down and I pin him and he rolls out
All right, it doesn't look like you're even getting up at this point. Yeah, it's toward the end. I finished the match
Watch my leg
Oh
Oh my gosh
I'm telling them don't I sound you guys like you roll out of the ring. I can't I'm like I'm hurt
Back it up
I'll tell you why this would probably be the worst and I will be why after
Oh my god, everyone watching right now is like what the hell dude
See I'll see the bunch up on the canvas. You see the bunch up on this
We'll talk about my book is caught in the canvas
Canvas is so far you can see it bending while I'm stepping on it and it gets caught
This is why we tighten the canvas
Yeah, that's why when we yell at people to tighten shit you gotta tighten it guys
Larry gives a shit all the time when we don't
The tip of my book got caught so I'll tell you why this was the worst
So I'm in Canada
Dartmouth Nova Scotia
My medical insurance is not taken in Canada
So I go to the hospital and they have to take care of me because it's their legally obligated to
And be stuck up there for God knows how long
I know I know something bad. Right? I know something bad because I couldn't put weight on it
You don't see the ending of that, but eventually they get some
The ref comes back and helps me out back and I hobble one lately all the way to the back and everybody like what happened
I know something was bad because you know, I have that ball on your ankle. Yeah
I took my boot off and it was gone
Oh my god
So I had broken my ankle on both sides. I didn't know it but on both sides that broken it from the boat
Good
But my foot the wrong way I can't go that way
So didn't know it that part yet, but so my options were this
It was late at night and all the boys are tired. So they weren't gonna drive through the night like well
I either tough it out overnight and we drive back and they dropped me straight off at the hospital. We get back to the States
Or I go the hospital there. They have to treat me get a giant medical bill and
Not be able to pay it and be stuck in Canada until my
Because you remember I can't walk at this point. I'm like hobbling dragging my leg
Like how are you gonna get home so easily? Yeah, I'm like home. I can't do anything. I'm on my mobile. I'm in mobile. I can't do anything
so I
Decide we go back the promoter's house. We stay the night. I put my leg up and do what I can
They helped me in the car by the by morning. My ankle is the size of a melon. I
Couldn't put my shoe on
Couldn't do anything. So I just put a sock on the best I could and was walking around with one sock one shoe
I wasn't walking. I was dragging it because I could I couldn't bend my ankle. So I knew I was bad and they booked it back
We got through the border. No problem. Thankfully didn't pull us in
got through the border
They didn't bring me home. They brought me to the hospital in Bangor the one right by right around the corner from city side the Eastern Main
Northern light now was Eastern Main that they bring me straight there mind you I got my merch. I got my
I got my gear bag. I got my actual clothing bag. I got all my stuff there. Drop me off and they're helping me inside
They went so I get inside all situated then they like they left I
Went in they gave me extra eggs
The waiting was the shitty part
It's gonna be a little bit of a mess
Me extra eggs the waiting was the shitty part. Let's do another x-rays done. I was maybe in the room five minutes
Dr. Walks in like mr. Johnson
He done once you walk in here did you walk in here like once they're more walking more like dragged or hobbled
But yeah, I got in here
Let's x-ray up on the screen thing and it shows me where it's broken on both sides
Like a little a doing and keeping my foot together was a spelling and the muscle
Breakable part so there's nothing right above my ankle not on my little puppet. So I'm like, okay
Well then
What do we got to do? Well, we gotta get you in for surgery. We're gonna do that first thing in the morning
We're gonna put two metal plates in
And titanium screws across so there'll be a plate on each side and the titanium screws going across this way
To hold it all in place
Well, I was beginning in the morning
Well, there was an emergency accident in the morning and I had a full might pull my surgeon
So it wouldn't be that nighttime. So like it's like 730 at night
They finally do my surgery. Here's the irony
All that time. I'm in the hospital
This girl I was talking to we were supposed to go out that night of my surgery
And I didn't talk to her because all my stuff was in five different places because
The hospital but I can't get it
How am I gonna get it?
So I finally get a hold of my phone and charge it and message your gar and she didn't believe me
She shows the hospital and she's my foot all up
All this stuff and she still didn't believe it
Still didn't believe it
Wow then explains it all to her still didn't believe it
Okay, baby, the surgeon is in and explains he can't go anywhere
You're not he's not going out tonight. He's not going any way. He can't walk
He can't use that leg
And she could not believe it tweaked out and left never heard and seen from her ever since
What the fuck
Because I couldn't take her out that night. It was so weird. It sounds like a modern-era thing right now
I feel like you don't know I just dodged a couple bullets, but uh
So yeah, seven thirty that night. I got into the surgery
I
Will say this it's easier to recover from a bone break than a muscle tear
Well, because that that like you just have to let it heal at that point
muscle still work when I tore my quad when y'all did that fundraiser and I tore my quad off my knee completely off my kneecap I
Had to reteach my leg how to walk
What show was that no that was uh that happened that uh
We did the bro the guy took a bro fundraiser and he said I'm gonna do a
We did the bro the guy took a bro fundraiser for when I blew my quad out. Yeah
Well
That's the one everybody thinks are blue my quad wrestling I know I fell down the stairwell
all 13 12 13 steps and ripped my quad completely off my knee and
Had a kind of surgery repaired and that's the worst. That's the worst like people want to joke about
He'll blow it out their quads like to wage and Kevin Ashley. That's just no joke
Yeah, but you have to repeat yourself out a walk
I got my quiet was not it was rolled up to my top
Like I had a unroll it reattach it and I had a reach my leg the wall
Yeah
No one understands that like you have to reteach yourself and they explain how they reattach it
They take these they take your muscle
They pull holes in your knee and they pull the muscles through
Reattach it's it's a sprucing experience and it was the most like fuck Mike. It sucked
It's terrible to be your leg made magic being magic thing. I'm being a grown adult enough to teach your limb how to work again
It's like you're a baby teaching them how to do things
I'll pass
You know
That's just terrible like
that's all
That's it 68 months I wouldn't walk I didn't six
John Cena
When I broke my tailbone and I w it was like
It was almost five months almost six months before before I do anything again
You can't you can't put a cast on that you can't you can't like you know heal your tailbone
Kind of stuck with it. Yeah, could you imagine just wearing a fucking ass cast for?
Every time you farted every time he farted the pain was then
What's wrong but I can imagine that's what it felt like every time you farted or took a shit you probably like
Screaming in the bathroom
Yeah in a public bathroom too
That's really bad
It'll be all right, man, whatever you ate tell me what it is so I don't need it
Yeah, I'll still take that over
One terrible I'll take
Yeah, anal ripping pain over a quad
So we we had you for we've had you for almost two hours now and we much appreciate it. So let's uh, let's well, let's
Anything recent it's all like the old stuff
We'll have you back on again, but uh, most definitely but let's get into like try to get into recent stuff right here
I think what's going on is like
Yes, ring wars is what we want to talk to so you're running the promotion ring wars
I know February 1st is the second ring wars
You want to go over that a little bit for everybody? Yeah. Well, well first what anybody that doesn't know what ring wars is
It's not like I said, it's not a promotion. It's a competition
And in wrestling like anybody that like to those that are smarter to wrestling or have been around it long enough understand that
There's different companies different organizations different brands schools
dojos things like that and
My ideology was to bring all these groups together to compete against one another
But it had to be somebody that was an ultra like a like a neutral party and I thought well
I'm probably the only one that can be a neutral party because I work for all these different places
So I pitched the idea to all the different promoters
Everybody loved the idea and I always like okay. Well, let's do this and they're like, but how do we I'm gonna give you a little
secretive detail in
Wrestling obviously most people know we're gonna we're not hiding anything anymore
That some of the stuff is predetermined. It's you know, it is
That's bad up guys, come on stop
Try not treat that treat people like they're stupid. Here's the things that fans hate. They don't you want to treat him a respect and should stop
Treating like they're stupid. They already know like don't do is okay to his face, but grown adults now
Yeah
Let's look the veil here
And so the biggest problem that I had with most of the promoters were like, well, they don't want their people losing which is a big problem
I mean, I think it's a big problem
I think it's a big problem
And so the biggest problem that I had with most of the promoters were like, well, they don't want their people losing which I understand
I said well, what if we do something that is
Out of people's control
Like what do you mean? Like well, I'll stand there and I record the videos of me little flipping a coin
Every match is one by a flip of a coin
On this end
So if anybody goes, how do you pick the winds? How does that fair to everybody like it's by fate?
Of a coin that's how it works this way no one gets disrespected if they want to watch the video I show them the video if they want but
It's all done by
Yeah, I love it run by say exactly and also all the promoters say you know what?
They all shook my hands. It sounds fair and they trust me and I do it and if they want to see the video they can watch it
It's all done by fate
So you tell me how to think of the
You won't go to the day of and neither will the family
You know what your focus needs to be as I tell every promote every person in their match like you're there representing your promotions
That ring was your representing groups the group that sent you and nominated you some of them are sponsoring you
Some of them are just nominating him that group that you're going in there to represent you should be worried about not embarrassing them
Exactly, so if you're embarrassing them, how does your promoter that's sitting there watching you perform?
Gonna feel exactly
That's what I tell you. You're not just there for yourself
You're there for your promotion and you're there in front of not one
Not two not three
But four promotions and the host
So if you suck
You may lose your bookings not just from the promotion that nominated you but from the guy that's going to tell you hey
Not trying to pull any punches, but your match was the drizzling ships. You're probably not gonna get any more work here. Like it's not
No wonder I'm not
It's a test
It's about the match and entertain the fans because the fans, you know that that last one was for their hungry fans
It's it's a smaller more intimate venue
But it's an event hall where the bar is in the event room is a bar and kitchen in the bedroom
So you can get all your shit right? You don't have to leave the room unless you're going to the bathroom
So everything
And the show itself
On the reason they think that's clever I'll get to that in a minute but
It's a very intimate show. It's a very intimate show and it's a limited seating events
That's a lot of things people don't understand too. They're like why is there only a limited amount of seats? It's a small venue
It's an intimate show
It's early on
And literally there's only like a hundred there's only that venue doesn't even have 100 seats
They have 85 and I read some from Randy who provides the ring from limitless is the school spring
He brings it with the ring and I get another whatever he has at the dojo, which is roughly 20 to 30 seats
So I only can sell like 120 at a time and then the rest of the room only plus even if I had extra seats
I can only fit 150 in there. Anyway max and that's
Bar it's an intimate show and the fans are very responsive. It's also a very competitive show
It's treated as such. There's no belts
There's medallions the idea behind the dad medallions is the team with the most medallions
wins the event
So whatever group you are whether it be I don't know MPW MEW let's wrestle or crown of Maine
Whatever group you're representing whatever group has the most medallions at the end of the vent
Wins that event. So each event is about winning the medallions not about belts and wrestling. There's so many belts right now
They've lost their prestige. Also, there's well that randomly, you know, put them on top of their car and let them fly off the top
Everybody knows about it. You're screwed
Also, yeah, that's that's also why you're not on ring wars two because little Joey knows 110 votes
That's why you're not on the west blame Joey nails
And the fans the fans voted from the guy that says oh poll results are jaded
So we'll just have everyone comment on the poll results
More intimate and it really saw that one. Yeah, what great Lou Jacobs and JP did not JP
You were like third, I think
People that no one thought were gonna win were like neck and neck the whole race
Jacob's fans would have came to the show to watch Lou Jacobs perform
The point of it is effort, sir
They went to the effort to push so hard to get people to comment coming from the man that said follows and subscribes
Look how bad he is. It's so cute. Can you see how mad he is? He's so mad about the belt shit
He's more mad at these like come on
Once it comes up one two punch
He's so mad about now
The belts are in my possession. They're just in pieces
Three weeks to finally get out
So he says it on the podcast
The other one's fine. The other one's like has a small crack in it, but did
You destroyed custom one that was super expensive the one that we had paid plate replaced
You just scuffed it. Yeah
The other one that's not easily replaceable. He destroyed into pieces
This is working free next weekend
Thumbs
The one that's not busted that'll be one show
You're working off a tab right now. I tell you that's a really big tab
I'm a grab a work and win ring work. They're gonna cost you a lot of money
But yeah, so we did the I did the poll way that way I didn't do polls
Here's why I don't do poll. I wanted to channel the traffic to the page
So by people commenting and liking and following the page
The page is analytics when?
I
The people that they that provide the poll how many how many comments were on that?
There was hundreds like I want to
Tell you
I'm gonna add all the totals. So Joey nails
One with 110 votes. So there's 110
And then I'm gonna add the
I'm gonna add the
I'm gonna add all the totals. So Joey nails one with 110 votes. So there's 110
These are just the boats to the right comments, but we're just counting the boats then like I said, there's Jacobs got 90 so that's 200
You got 66 so that makes you 266
Maverick had 23
So that makes it
We'll say what to 290 will just round up why one to 90 math Sam and Matthews had 21
So yeah, there's your other so it's 3 310
primer had eight
318 was 10 year person had the least amount of votes. I
Didn't create this shit. I just had a crowd of ma man and I counted it
Not once
Not twice but three
Three fucking times
I was I was hurting my eyeballs by the time I got done counting it and I double-checked. I just I did three times
So it was coherent
But yeah, so well over 300 votes and there was probably a good five to six hundred comments
There's wild some of that that's wild
Pun the punder taker
You'll know you'll find it keep going if you keep going up
It'll show the graphic fans choice. I'll say right above it
Keep going you're almost there. Oh, keep going. Keep going. There's no more going
On the Facebook page. Yes on first show you're on the event page. That's why
Okay
Mean room or a go slide on down now. There you go. Keep going. You go
You know, you know
No, keep going
You know, it looked like even on even on even on
Almost there. Okay
There you go on the comments
338
With sir with how many shares say 85 85
That's why I'm playing the page content went up for follows and likes look at all the toenails
But you see that's why I did that it helped the page
I
Many times a joy to parents vote sadly not now because Toby Nelson's one of the referees people that were staff or on the
What please wait
vote
Shout out to shout out to Chris Rex for these graphics. They are bad sweet. Yeah, so this is this is what we got for matches
the
MPW the win and the medallion. Well, now Lee Miller's
Ironically been nominated by MPW to compete at ring wars and of course
Alexander Lee and Lee Miller both want a piece of each other
But to make sure the kendo stick doesn't come to play we have a special guest referee a band who's not been in the ring
and over three years
Brandi notice. Yeah
Everybody's like sweet like yeah, and he
But progress he had his surgery is great. He's feeling great. He's gained weight looking good feeling great
He's excited to be there. So
I'm excited to see him. I haven't seen him in that minute. So I know I haven't seen him in a while either. Yeah
And then we have we were talking about this earlier the wild versus hyper poutine the match
That you guys have had this match before but the last time this happened
You guys shelved Ray Ray C. Yeah, he shelved himself. But yeah
This hyper poutines looking for revenge against the wild however, as we all know from Crown of Maine
Hyper poutine are not exactly getting along. So yeah, what about the I die and get the revenge or
All the wild
Italians now the thing is with tag team matches
It's not just for one medallion it's for two so this could be a game changer for anybody
Normally with singles matches or a triple threat or afford. There was only one medallion to win with tag matches
It's two so literally this could be a game changer for either group
To be down on
Two medallions run along one. That's cool. You better win. I know you I hope fates on my side will find out
It's a flood of a coin fellas. It's a matter of fates
We have the cluster jam now this match is still gonna happen except Lou Jacobs will not be involved sadly
He was the runner-up in the boat. So we were gonna let the winner and the runner-up both have a spot
However, was Lou Jacobs hurt?
We hope all the best for him. Hope he gets well soon. He was really looking forward to this
He has a bit of a fracture in his spine
He's gonna be able to compete for a while. So it's just gonna be the four Joey nails
versus Chris Rex
Check Casanova
This is the donkey boy one fall to a finish showing one man will walk out with a medallion
I kind of not a representative in company. He's representing the fans. So, you know, you know five person
Nope, I'm good
I'm afraid you'd break the medallions like you do belt
Snazzy hats we go back
Hey, you know what? I'm wearing it after great here
I specifically got these ones for Tony Atlas here. You see if you want to see those red white and blue ones
Those are specifically because obviously Tony Atlas is on the show and I thought
Yeah, and then also for those of you that are good old man, I should like your flannel
You might be a boat these are a limited edition
Every show we have limited edition merch, which is the ring war stickers
Is there you have a specifically one for every event?
So every event has its limited edition stickers and hats every event. It's kind of like a collector's thing
So what the first one there's only a couple ring wars or one hats left. There's like no stickers left
I apologize, but there's plenty of new ring wars two stickers and obviously the ring wars two hats and once they're gone
They're going
Pass after 20 bucks. That's a 20 bucks. They're affordable for everybody
Um, perhaps a 20 bucks stickers are five dollars so you can get them right at the merch table
My friend Meg who works at Carolinas will be working the merch table for me. She's lovely. It does a good job
She oh you grab a kind of hats. Like I said, though
There's limited quantities of the certain hats so you see the ones on the table and like oh, there's a bunch of my cloud
There's only a certain amount of each type. So if you want one you got to get it early
Stickers is only like there's about 50 stickers. You get one great. You don't they run out they're gone
Um, also the ring wars 1dbd is out, but there's only limited quantity left. There's only 20 copies left
So if anybody wants one you gotta get one when you can
So me already got some these are talent announcements
Also
The there'll be more match announcements will be another one on Monday and every Monday leading up to the event that we are adding a
Bonus match the events or set of the normal six matches that we do on every ring wars
There will be seven because an anonymous sponsor come in
I'm not gonna say who right now because I'm announced it person on the post
respectfully but anonymous sponsor came through when the fans choice about came along and
Donated some money so that some of the runner-ups could have a match
So
There you go, jb's like why aren't I picked
Are you sorry her sessions might actually have to donate money so that fucking JP could run. What did I do?
Well, you know you broke belt so that's the first thing
Belts are supposed to be important in wrestling. Why are we smashing them across the pavement because we're okay
Well, clearly the context is not told correctly
No, it's not. I'm just I'm gonna keep I'm nothing much obviously
Are you gonna hold that against it?
I might be poking you like the bear with a stick like haha. I bet he doesn't like this
I'm gonna keep talking with this one. I was cleaning out my garage. I kept the belts in a belt bag of both belt bags
No longer
Yeah, basically I was cleaning out my garage and I took the belts and I turned around ADHD kicked in
Put them on top of the car continued cleaning and then I was done. I went back inside
I woke up the next morning and I went to work and about an hour into me being at work
I then all of a sudden get this dread over my entire mind. It was like did I forget?
And
Lo and behold I messaged Hannah and she found them they I would have hoped they'd just fallen into the driveway
No, they were about a quarter mile up on route to oh
No, and the mpw one was is still inside of its bag
And it just has a slight crack that around one side of the main plate. I'm that it looks totally fine
It's a hard club. That's character. Yeah
It's honestly you wouldn't even know that it's there. However, however the hardcore belt for crown of Maine has been obliterated
The bag exploded
Wait, I don't know what hit it. I think I was a paintball gun bag
thick bag the belt
Was nothing and it was fine. No longer. You are the hardcore maniac. You are now JP O'Reilly the destroyer belts
I
Am Andy Orton was the legend killer. He's the belt destroyer
I
Want to come out with it? I have the leather
And bring a belt to the show even if we're not wearing pants that require a belt just a fuck
There is a boat
Start pulling at people's belts and short
My this could be perverse and not allowed but um, yes
Tony Atlas was on the show
Yeah
Why a picture when he's in his 30s and not like
You guys understand it so
I have a bunch of people actually asked me this and I'm gonna give you this analogy. So if you have an event and
You're hosting this event. There's a couple reasons why two in particular
There was an event with someone famous on it. Let's say it's non wrestling related. Let's say I have a meet-and-greet planned
With I don't know
Dennis Rodman on it
Okay, am I gonna put a picture of Dennis Rodman now or when he was with the Chicago Bulls and won a championship
You'll see the difference look up both right now put on the screen too
Okay now look at one when he was in the Chicago Bulls
When it was his payday when he won the championships and it was like the premier team in basketball
Yeah, or when he was when in the WCW for those hot minute with NWL
You're gonna put that picture because that's what he was at his peak. That's also how everybody remembers him now
Let's attain it to wrestling
so
Let's say I had Rick Flair on the show since we're talking about Rick Flair
Earlier because I'll be Alice Rick Flair legends of wrestling
Things the same you put Rick Flair on the show you're gonna put a picture Rick Flair now or for one like he won
On the WCW WF championships
That's true. Okay, I understand
Everybody that says that now on the other side
The other second comes in there's two reasons. That was the first one the second one
second one is
Do you think the person that hit the
second one is do you think the person that who is a legend or if someone famous sees
Themself on a poster
Do you think they want to see themself now or when they were on the marquee?
They're gonna be when they were on the marquee because it brings them back to the time
That's good a great time that you get older like I you saw that video of me when I was younger with you in it
they think
Look at us then now look at us now
What I mean
as you get older
Those times when you're younger bring out better memories and to me
Tony's old he's in great shape stuff, but he's getting older and I want him to remember the good times
So if I can and when I get showed him that poster I was at the I came to see him
And talked to him about it when he was at the Phoenix Pro Show in Brewer
He looked I showed him my phone he could just grab my phone and held he's like Eric
It's first time he actually fully seven in like Eric back
That's a good looking he said that's a good looking poster
And I can you make sure to give me a couple of those so I can take that and keep it home with me
I said yes. Yes, I will
So I'm gonna give him some of those and I'm also gonna get more of the ring wars to hats
He's gonna get the first one. It's gonna get
Because I'm getting older and I get it and
Now I understand it more so to all the people that say oh, it's not what he's in
This doesn't look like these now. I'm like so you want them
You want to feel bad you want to feel like?
You want to feel bad? You want to feel happy?
Cuz I rather I rather put a smile on his face and they have a good time
As we don't know Tony's getting old we know from his last time he won't wrestle
He's in his what?
Yeah
And this also goes back to one final thing I know we've been doing this for a minute
There's people that don't get it last chance
And we'll back to Robbie Ellis
Robbie Ellis
What he didn't get it twice when he had a stop us
He got he had to because he physically couldn't he was my camp I to be champ he dropped the belt
As he was going over to Italy for a vacation with his with his family
He does it every year he has a house over there
And he also wrestled over there he did it went on his trip
He wrestles over there, and then he came back and I was gonna put the belt back on
The week that he was he was literally at a show in
in Cornville, Maine
He was an outback when he got a phone call
From two of them one from his doctor
And one for his wife so not gonna say what was said that's all his info
But he came to me crying and said he couldn't wrestle anymore
And there's reasons behind that and that's his personal stuff. I'm not putting that out there
Yeah, but see a grown man his age crying
And he hugged me and he thanked me for everything
And I and last night I didn't see him again for your years after that until a random Chikara event
I saw he used to wrestle for Chikara for my quack English
And then he hugged me and said hi to me and everything but like
Robbie Ellis lives in Portland area. I think he's important
He had a art gallery down there. That's what we did for a living. He's bought and sold art and did Ryan options
Yeah, we've art pieces and that's what he did every year for a living
Yeah, so he didn't get to see you whenever I can put a smile on someone's face
That's been doing this long enough and that's the one thing I can do
I'm gonna do it, you know, if you won't give me shit about it like oh, that's not how he looks now
I'm like you should be happy you're getting to see him compete because we one day where he can't no more
There's gonna be time
Even he can't do this anymore. You know same thing with me, you know
We're all gonna get older and older and older and older and older and older and older and older and older and older and older and older
And I'm not doing this anymore. You won't remember the good times. You remember the shit times
Right. Oh, I know I just swear this whole thing. It made it feel more emotional now, but no
Yeah, no, it's great. And also
The last part is when you see that Tony's an old-school wrestler. He's been around
decades
And I'm almost 40
But there's some people come in his event that are older than me. I
Remember him watch remember watching him and and in the WWF and em and that I've had someone asked me
I remember watching him win the tag bells rocket Johnson. I said and they bought a ticket to the event
So them
seeing that and then coming to show
And seeing him in there because they remember him from that time
He looked like that
It's an attachment thing. It's just like I
Know Hogan's in the negative news right now
like if we all when we're kids see Hogan and oh my god, that's so awesome and we're all excited and
Then we see him now. He doesn't look anything like when he was at his peak
He look I mean he looks older but like we assess from our brain and that
Stimulation from on our childhoods or when we were growing up watching that stuff
it's attachment and we see that and that's what's gonna make us want to come and see that because
We're gonna appreciate it
That's how we know we associate
And that's with anything not just wrestling the actors
You know, you see a picture of Mel Gibson now
We'll go with Mel Gibson was unloaded. It was in what lethal weapon
Right alone when he was in
Rocky or Rambo and then look at the money's in the expendables
Totally different. Yeah, exactly exactly
It's a social
Yeah
Well, they're
Yeah, no worries guys. No, we can go on forever. There's plenty other shit to talk about but yeah, that's ring wars. There's also
a
Week from now there's NPW and MEW coming up
I don't believe them out because they are coming and I am MEW champion and intergender champion
I'm also the king of New England
Silence you dare to smudge me
Oh, yeah, we need more King Johnson yes, please
Like I don't like him I like you I like you I don't like the one with the cat
He breaks things he can go away
This is the process if I give you my cat if I give me my crown the polish you would drop
The things already broken. He's a disabled cat. So I can't get broken anymore
So you break belts and cats?
Are you broke he was broken when you caught him? Yeah, so you're taking care of a disabled cat. That's very sweet of you
Stop breaking shit though
All right. Well, we got to do this again sometime in the game. Yes, the king will come back with his royal court
the
Definitely do this again because
Everybody loves the king voice like please to make it like that for my life
Well, my light switch is only time to turn on the voice. Okay, I'm right here
Still my favorite fucking
You're gonna have to do this until the next
That's the problem I was talking to aid and Andrews like you're the king of New England
but you can't have it I want you to do it forever because it's hilarious, but I don't want to do it forever because
Is of the crown being king in New England is it's like the it's like the money in the bank thing
I cash in any time any place anywhere. It's like but then I can't be the king anymore. I can't be royalty
The smatch man my own
Court oh, yeah, you haven't even cashed that in yet. That's right. No, maybe I will new hardcore boy
Well, wait a minute you broke the belt. I don't want that. That's broken
Eric Johnson's tool to be doing any of that makes squeeze me. Oh
No
Listen, I may already be be dead by from the end of Friday anyway, so oh
Yes
Cruel is about to give you a real
The open challenge
We know it's going to happen, you know, it's gonna come out there and kill you
Okay, I'll do it I'll come out and I'll shut my crown straight up your rectum
I wouldn't tell you I'm gonna cash in when I when I feel like it like I'm gonna
Give you a hint and then tell you and then go not even know I'm gonna surprise you. Wait, you're tired
Which is usually after five minutes of running masses, but anyway, I would wait
Until you're tired
and blown up in hurts and I come out to you and I shove my scepter right up your ass and
Then I pass in and then I'm gonna win and then I'm gonna realize the belts broken and then I'm gonna slap you in the face
Everything
10 years
Completely scorched
Oh
The next day had family is the diagram Levi's in the middle of a snowstorm. That's why he's not on
I like like did like two dare are three different ties you hopped on hopped off grief
their
the same the
the
that it that lift of that
, was it, were with today's Friday so weak from today
you can find me
your king
so Eric of Johnson
at main the mail wrestling
in our time in
the main area wrestling on Facebook to get your tickets
if you want them if you don't
I don't care because I'm the king and you're not
out there
and non kingly fashion
that transition
three do you want me to get off screen come back on the long
the
I make you feel better like I was a podcast where I'm not going in my own home
weirdo anyway
that Saturday I'll be in Franklin Maine for me W defending my me W
championship against Jason Maverick I will say Jason Maverick has to serve
the shot bought the odds to get here
and he's here
and I know a lot of people have been
the back in that horse for a while hoping he will win that race eventually because obviously he's got a lot of horses in the
so
more to a no this old horse
in place that a
and he never loses
so
you have his work out from
the course of every one is on the favorite for us to the giant size most are a long
that again as opposed to the other big yellow we give away in the 50 video raffle so
that you can buy tickets for that at the event on
which is February 2nd
that's Russell's coming back to Milford
where I just saw that
it just got announced I think either today or last night
title for title it's the best club me and Alexander Lee defending
against the classic or
, they're also the put up their belts and Sammy W. Tagg champions versus the let's Russell tagg champion so
the
I would say it's also in the form of championship belts, but you know someone over here breaks them all the time so we can't
Got him again
I'm gonna be on him about it forever. He knows it too. That's why he's like I hate my life right now
so mad at me
He's also mad he's he's not on ring wars, but JP JP. I'm sorry Joey nails one to vote and yet someone got injured and left
You JP, I'm not even wrestling on my own show you asshole
I can't have a spot and there's a bonus
I'll be sitting right in that chair. Hey
He should offer to come to the show he's a not my shit here watch a lot of rumble
He didn't say he's coming to show he lives down the street from the venue
I'm gonna say yeah, I'm gonna watch anytime he wants to instead of going down the street and
Supporting the local show like you should have maybe I want to change my mind
But now you can lick my taint
Well, hey, I know he can't be on ring wars 2 but is there a possibility in the future?
There's a ring wars 3 well
That's the thing is well you you guys know how it really works with ring wars like the fans choice is a fan's thing
I wanted to do it just to see if how the response would go and it went great
But with ring wars, I'm not happy to explain this because I didn't get to before but ring wars
I don't book the talent. I don't choose the talent
Hell, I even put myself as the alternate in the case of someone gets hurt
It doesn't show up because I don't even plan on myself to wrestle the town is
nominated
by the promotions
Much like you cat you were you were nominated by
MPW you and your partner Dylan X the while were nominated by MPW along with your cohorts
Jake Hess and Lee Miller
They were all nominated on and then over here for less Russell
Or donkey
Alexander Lee
All nominated let's wrestle along with big juicy who was facing me W's
Mac Pat's all so on and so forth people you're nominated and sent to me by the promotion
So it's not up to me. I
Do usually book a alternate for my shows
However, because I'm not wrestling it's cheaper and easier for me to get the talent
myself right also, there's so many people on the show
There's no point to having one so like with the cluster jam someone's out, but there's still four people in the match. So do I
Fill the spot and give it to somebody else or do I let the people that are in the match have the chance to represent?
Not just themselves, but their respective promotions more
Because with that I
Don't want to take away from someone's opportunity to show
What they can do when there was five people cool, but now there's four it's not much of a difference
These people still get to fight it out and have that's that's why I didn't put someone else in there
I don't want to take away someone's opportunity to work for it and really want to show and represent their promotion
respectfully
Right, so that's why I didn't have a replacement there JP
But will there be a real
that's why I didn't have a replacement there JP
the
toe tone
the venue that was only letting select people in one of them being Larry Huntley and the NAWA because they've been consistent.
The other one they let in only because of my tenure from running there for years and never having any problems.
And because I name dropped the previous person that used to run the
used to run out the community center now the treasurer does it, but the person I named dropped that person and that person said yes, he was good for many a year and they remembered who it was.
They're gonna let me do it as long as I don't screw up the venue things like that.
They're gonna let me do that.
So I had doors.
What?
As a break some chairs, lock the doors.
It's how people do it.
People they break, they destroy buildings.
That's why it's hard for a lot of wrestling companies now in Maine.
If you notice a lot of venues, there's a lot less venues now.
Yeah.
And this is the reason just people are taking care.
So I'm going in.
This is a test run because the problem with Paul Meyer, I love the Somerset Boar House, but it's a small venue and they only they don't even have 100 chairs.
Well, at the Fairfield Community Center, they have over 200 chairs.
Yeah.
So I need I need if I'm already if I'm selling out a venue that has 100 seats in it, I need a bigger venue.
So we're gonna give this a try.
It's only 25 minutes on the street down the road.
Exactly.
So we're gonna be we're gonna announce it on the first, but I forgot to give it to you.
Guys, we're going to give it to you guys for the whole thing here.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you.
So you guys get here.
We'll be having those little things will be handed out the door to on the first.
We're going to a discount to if anybody buys a ticket that day, they will take five dollars off every ticket they buy.
So they buy the day and you like I said, we usually with the ringside seats, they sell out in the first two weeks.
We have them on sale.
So I anticipate that will probably happen.
It's going to be we already got some talent locked in.
I'm not giving that away.
It's gonna be a good little show.
Some people have already been reached out to by promotions.
So if you haven't heard anything yet, be afraid.
Don't be like, oh, no, god damn it.
You gotta wait.
Some people have some people have.
So it's a Friday, March 14th Fairfield Community Center.
I think this will be our main ring wars.
I mean, it was 15 for General Mission 24.
And we're going to try to pack them in like the old days.
Good old IWD days back in the day.
We're going to try it.
So we're going to do it on National Pi Day.
So maybe there'll be some pie involved.
I think you just go look that up.
No earlier.
You're still hungry.
I mean, yes, but no.
But food.
Listen, where can we find you?
Where can we find you?
But like Twitter,
it's cool.
EJ and all the all the platforms except I don't do Twitter.
Twitter's Twitter's kind of toxic and it's dying out.
So I barely use my Instagram, but I still use it to advertise
my DJ gigs and wrestling mostly on Facebook and Snapchat.
But all of them are the same old school.
And you're sort of so so you've got old school, you're on Instagram,
Facebook, Snapchat, you'll find me where I'm at, DJ or wrestling or both.
I was a lot of the most you if anybody checks my like
snap map to find where I'm at for gigs, I'm all over the place.
It's going to go wrestling all over the place.
So that's how you find out everything.
For ring more stuff, it's main ring wars on Facebook.
You can get your tickets there or you can just hit me up old school,
you do it on, like I said, on Facebook or Snapchat.
Awesome. Awesome.
Well, like I said, we got to do this again.
Like this is fun.
Like we're thinking about doing the changing up the podcast a little bit
or just doing just like guests and then doing maybe like a news.
That's smart because I watched I watched a piece the last one with I think was with Smiley.
Yep.
Yeah, because Smiley worked for me one time way back.
He was working with the group Super Lucha Explosiva.
What's up here?
And they were doing something with the Kabang Festival back in the day.
And he would come up and was there and they just wanted to work.
And like we were doing our own show in Brewer and they were part of like
they were doing the Kabang Festival.
It's like one of the first years they're doing it.
They don't do it anymore.
But they were wrestling on it, like right in the middle of downtown.
And they there were a bunch of them in town.
He was he was one of them.
I want to say.
Andy Lee Ray, which is a Pokemon kid.
Yeah, I remember that.
Who else?
I think Mark Quinn.
I'm trying to remember there was a bunch of them that came up together from from down
that way from the House of Glory area that were trained down there.
They were just trying to get work.
And that's where I first saw them.
And I said, look, I'm booked up, but I will put matches together so you guys, while you're
up here and get some work, because a lot of them are super green and kind of a lot of work yet.
And I put them on the show.
So he did work for me to be at one point.
So, yeah, I just thought I watched pieces of it and I was like, oh, wow, the irony of that,
you know, that just happened.
But I did see how long it was.
And then you guys would do your recaps on stuff.
I'm like, it's a long like usually these these type of podcasts where you're like,
I have a podcast where you're interviewing people, especially if you are asking questions
or you guys have your questions and then there's other questions, it's going to take a long time.
And then a lot of why I also like my go out.
So I usually avoid some of these podcasts because I'll be on here
and everybody wants to hear stories.
I got tons of them and it's like, you know, that's what I'm going to do till midnight.
But, you know, it's part of the territory and I know a bunch of people hit me up.
I know I think Versace Stoner has been trying to get me on his for a while.
And I'm going to hit him up in a way I am going to do his.
I do want to do it because I did tell him a while back.
I'm going to do it.
I'm a man of my word.
So I'm going to do it.
But a bunch of people have asked independent ones.
I think back a while back, Randy wanted me to go on one of their podcasts with limitless stuff.
I never did it.
I just didn't work out time wise because I was busy with DJing so much.
So I'm on how to do them.
It's just for me, it's hard for me because I work nights and most podcasts are when
I cannot.
The podcasts, I'm doing them for free, but like my day job being a DJ, I get $100 an hour.
So I can't constitute throwing that money down the tubes when I write exactly
every podcast I love and I'm trying to be rude.
I just know my family.
You also want to keep me running like hosting events like Ring Wars three.
I got to pay for it somehow.
You know what I mean?
And that's all people assume that like I've learned from my to me.
I don't mind if I break even, but if I lose money hosting events, I don't for wrestling.
I don't have, I won't do them.
It's just, it's not so I lost so much money from my to be from like TV perspective.
That's why I said the one thing I regret was TV because
I can't get money for that back. I could tell you what.
Right.
I did two rounds of that.
Two runs of TV.
The second one was more expensive than the first run, but we never got into that.
But like at the station on the second one was going to look up.
Usually be like, oh, I'm on TV.
We're like, what the hell?
Yeah.
Now Saturday is a noon on Fox 22 was the slogan for the longest time.
So people remember it, dude.
Like I didn't realize how many people remember that stuff for, for missile.
How long we ran, like we were, we were in that we were Saturday afternoon wrestling.
We literally were part of people's childhoods.
So, um, and if you ask Mike Turner from MEW, that's how he remembers me.
He remember watching me from I to B TV and then to be on fire.
And that's how he remembers me.
And that's how he still, that's why he, he has this thing.
Or he wants me to do one time.
For MEW, he wants me to be jiving Jimmy one time.
Are you going to have you do it one time?
I'm like, I'm going to try to do $500 to do it.
He's like, I don't care.
I'm going to do it.
The music, the disco, the awesome.
It was a, it was a jam.
Jiving Jimmy, the rain there's also a story of why I stopped doing it.
It was that's a whole nother story that one of the can of worms.
I mean, I'll tell it if you want me to, but.
That's a whole nother story.
Why they jiving Jimmy was a thing.
People loved it.
Maybe it was.
If I, if I, if I stuck with it, maybe I could have done some with it.
The reason why I didn't was I thought someone was literally doing the gimmick.
That I, I was meant to do.
I thought meant to do.
So that's the short end of the stick.
This the long end, I'll try to sum it up quickly for you.
So you guys can at least hear the story.
Okay.
I was working for on fire.
I was their TV champ.
As I told her earlier and the Savoldis used to be connected to the WB back in the day.
I'm hoping I'm getting all that.
And what had happened was around the time, a little individual was coming on TV called
Brody's clay.
So I kind of put this two and two together.
I did some work and I did some math.
So what had happened was the Savoldis, I got it up and they were, I was getting asked to
about, I guess, I don't know what the deeds were.
They didn't really give me full details.
And then they referred and they referred to call the Tony and then Tony took the call
and called and then Tony told me about it.
What he remembers of it.
They were asking funny questions like who trained me, how long I've been in the business,
how big I was like, you know, all that fun stuff like how tall, how much I was, how tall
I was like, you know, all that fun stuff like how tall, how much I weigh.
They were asking a bunch of questions just to see because back in this time frame, like
I said, like there was no viral shit.
You knew people from a someone who vouched for somebody or they see the work and then
they get a hold of you from so and so that no so and so that no so and so.
It was one of those situations.
And so the Savoldis got the call first from them and then they called Tony.
And I never heard anything about it.
After that, Clay showed up on TV.
So I took a call myself to stop me and Jimmie, which is right around the time that program
with Sarah DiErico happened where she took my name rights.
I did it on purpose to get out of it.
But also, like he literally would come out with the disco ball, which I used to do.
I used to bring the disco ball to the events and have the disco ball up and out of the
disco ball, same, same music style, same outfit where I wore the ring pretty much.
It's his looks better because it's from the know to be, you know, that's why I stopped
and I probably should not.
But I thought, you know, since they called Savoldis and they called Tony and they didn't
like what they heard, they weren't interested.
And that kind of makes you not make kind of tells you like you wasted your time.
Instead of instead, I should have kept going with it because I've been driving Jimmy the
whole time.
Yeah.
So that's a sad story.
Sad part is you're not the only one that store we have.
We all know somebody else that, you know, feels like their gimmick was used within besides
having them being used.
That's the thing of the world, unless you unless you copyrighted LLC, it do all that
stuff and own it and some stuff you can't do that to wrestling moves.
I can't I can't copyright a move and copy the name of it by improve it by King, copyright
the move.
Right.
Apparently you can copyright, call throwing pokeballs.
Fucking power find that out.
But yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Because it's their intellectual property.
It's similar to their intellectual property.
That's why they.
I've seen some I've studied criminal justice and constitutional law.
So like that type of stuff.
It was similar to an intellectual property to the point where it's so similar that there's
no discrepancy, which pretty much it is.
I guess so.
It's up to a court of law to decide.
But like you can if it's similar to someone's intellectual property.
Yeah.
So like like if I if you know how well, so has the eat thing.
Yeah.
So if I decide, yeah, but it's all things you eat, right?
Yeah.
So I decided to do something called Ye without the T.
Ye.
Yeah, they ain't gonna fly because he owns that shit.
He owns the company.
He might not get to be the right special.
It's a similar intellectual property.
I can't do that.
So that would get me in trouble.
You know, if I do anything like anything that's challenging, like Trublitz was the game.
And I did something like the game on the other because like that's why I like I like I just
about saying it was a game.
I'm like, that's close, man.
You got to be careful.
Like I'm sure Trublitz doesn't care at this point because he's not really wrestling anymore.
But like you don't want to do anything that's going to get you sued.
Right.
Why entirely true, John?
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These kids are the problem with anything like that.
Like you're going to get in trouble.
So it doesn't matter what I got to cease and desist once.
I had this really high grade Spider-Man outfit
that had Frankie Flashbear to do like birthday parties and stuff back when a DJ
and then I had him wrestling in a couple of times.
And kids love he literally
we did a show in Palmyra, Maine at the Palm Our Community Center
when that was still open.
So I don't think it's open anymore.
more and Tony was on the show and I have Frankie for Josh like dressed up as Spider-Man there
was a line of literally 50 to 60 people to get pictures of autographs with Spider-Man
because the outfit was legit right but yet Tony had nobody because everybody was getting
pictures with Spider-Man he got mad at me so I put him on the Tony got mad at me for
putting him on the show with spider-man like I'm not gonna beat the spider-man or I'm sorry
Tony I'm not gonna beat what's not a man I'm sorry but I had to stop doing it because Marvel
comics right around the time just about the new Spider-Man movie I had to stop because
he sent me a secret assist letter I was always afraid of all the time I didn't use all time
just select child events a fundraiser I'll help the fundraiser make some money and kids
it's kids so it's out of school yeah stuff like that my community center was an old school
I was like I was gonna be a lot of kids yeah but I literally went to it we did a show at
a mall I'm a grass cow I was like you know I'll bring Spider-Man up and even this this
letter came in the mail I was like great and I think someone from the mall threw me into
the bus I was like you're like so you know I had a bunch of kids there I had Spider-Man
do the autograph signing but I didn't let him wrestle because you don't want to get
in trouble I didn't sell anything either spider-man related I was like now you can I literally
look it was happening give away pictures because I just wanted to get rid of so this way they
couldn't say we're making money out but yeah I'm sorry pictures give away free to kids
shockwave the robos on the show I assume the kids are gonna show us in the mall right there's
a woman's match or shockwave there's spider-man there's a bunch of gives a bunch of bunch
gimmicky stuff just for kids and then that's the thing like that's missing in wrestling
now there's not if you if you had some wrestling stuff it's like I know there's some cosplay
wrestling which is great that needs to happen because it needs to have that for kids but
there's different types of adult wrestling which is like the stuff that JP likes over
here like deathmatchy stuff and then there's kid stuff that is sometimes funny and entertaining
some of us adults but we know it's for kids we technically can't even say legos and yeah
it's building blocks telling one can promote a lego match so it has to be building blocks
because they you know what I mean stop it I know what you're saying but you know I'm
saying that's why there's the yeah it's even right now in wrestling this there's AEW to
W to be it's different yeah because at a W's I feel like like there would be some really
great shit though like I've watched their two Netflix episodes and all their matches
yeah but like there's only like five matches I'm like yeah but they're highly competitive
yeah paper style matches because they're treating it like these these Netflix specials or pay
reviews I'm sure it's gonna drop off eventually but they're doing it on purpose so that makes
it built up right and eventually they're gonna add more matches it'll be shorter matches
won't be as good quality they're doing that on purpose to set the bar high and then they're
gonna bring it down and bring it back up again right but he definitely was mostly competitive
wrestler so that's their niche why don't have it but they're gonna be is doing payment
equality and they're gonna bring it more more and more entertainment slow it down bring
it back up again like they also have NXT which is also competitive comparative to AEW as well
I just sat here and watched SmackDown the whole while during the podcast and they had
plenty of matches on SmackDown three hours there was more matches than anything else
which is good right well it's just different cups of tea to fit to the market you know
that WWE is on Netflix are committing their higher larger a lot larger market for them
how to fly it's like are we looking up like how are you alive what the fuck it's not JP
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it took him like a while to learn how to pump. He couldn't figure he did eventually learn.
He couldn't figure it out. Eventually he moved away back to New Hampshire area. He was going to
New England pro wrestling Academy and he went down there for a couple months and then he came back
to Maine and I'm like, Oh, what happened? He's like, I moved back to Maine and I couldn't like
New Hampshire. I want you to, I want you to train me and teach them. All right. Fine. Fine. So I taught
them a payment plan and let me train. I started with Eric didn't get anywhere with it. Went to
New England pro learned while still living in New Hampshire. Eventually Eric saw that I could
actually bump and find no, no, no, he came back. He came back and he was bumping better than he was.
He still wasn't doing very well and we had to clean it up a bit. And I said, well, you're at
the time he was, he's tall. He's a tall kid. He was a lot. I'm so the same. I was just about two.
So I was like, you need to bump like a big guy. And because I'm a big guy, I showed him some sneaky
peak ways to bump like a big guy, which is like, you've got to go like throw your feet to the
ceiling. Cause like, what do you mean? I thought you're trying to walk on the ceiling. So, and then
he learned how to bump, but because he didn't learn how to bump for like over a year, we used
to call him shit bump. It was a clever coin, a phrase. Everybody had a nickname, like Lee Miller.
I called him no. Every time I saw me doing something wrong, I just yell and go, no.
And it was just more common than anyone else. Hey, in Angro, I called him eggs. See he, I don't
know why, but every day of a wrestling show, he was always eating eggs before he came to show.
I'm like, why would you eat eggs before a wrestling show? So I just call them eggs. I know which
one's coming. So no, we're going to stop that because I know you're just getting late, but
we got in shape because for over a year he couldn't bump right. And it was just a point of phrase
because like I just bump on a piece of shit, it's called a ship bump. You should pump and you
could bump like shit. It was a point of phrase, quite a phrase. Anyway, eventually we got rid
of nicknames once they got on and actually built their own wrestling character, which he used to
be called for his JP or he was John Paul O'Reilly. My middle name origin. And the first time that
was ever announced, I looked at Randy after, after the first time. And I said, please do not ever
announce is that ever again, just JP we're sticking with that. All right. You've been out
everywhere that sense. And then we call him JP now or O'Reilly. I don't call him ship bump anymore
until the stories come out and then I have to tell him the stories. Yeah. Now he didn't learn
how to bump while he was down there. When he came back up, I had to show him the little tricky
tricks of the straight. Now he remembers these like the feet to the ceiling.
Actually carried on to new England pro because yeah, I never told Eric, you probably don't even
know this story sitting in class one day. And it was the first time that ACE had come in to start
he walks in, he sees me out of everybody. And this is in front of Christian Casanova,
cams, the Gummy, Josh Briggs, um, uh, names, names, uh, war beard, uh, uh, names. And he just looks
to me and goes,
I was like, no, sorry. I feel 2015 or like 2014, 15. Yeah. I was like, no, you can't say that here
because I had already developed a nickname there. And then once people figured the other nickname
out, it all of a sudden,
call them ship bump because he bumped like shit, but also it's a bump on a turd called a ship bump.
Everybody back in the day had a nickname, even Mark moment. He had, he had one, he was called
big, he was called them because he always had a sour look on his face.
Um,
um, big cat, big cat, just various.
Got all excited. He got so excited. Yeah. I was trying to get off of them. He had, we had a good
number, but the fact, I never knew that that makes sense. So that cause ACE, when he was doing,
when he got done with super Lucha, he was working for me all the time and training with me a little
bit too. And he was, him and graves were traveling together all the time going back and forth.
I used to drive ACE randomly sometimes at brewery shows, uh, and Island falls from random time,
time back in 2014. Yeah. So that makes a lot of sense because he would,
him and Graves would travel back and forth and go down there a couple of times. And that makes
sense that he said that down there and called you ship bump. And that's
the first thing he called me. He'd literally from across the room said it, but I, but I
tried to pretend that it wasn't like, I wasn't paying attention. I'd be like, please don't,
like, please. I remember this because when you came back, I hit up fury to see how much work
you were putting in down there. And he called you ship bump in the text message. I remember this now.
Yeah. I'm so sorry, but I'm so sorry. That was terrible.
I didn't stick with that though. The motto didn't really like the name, which is funny.
No, once you see everybody grows out of their nicknames, like no one calls
moment, lemon head anymore. They always call them.
Cause that's what he knew him. That was the story. Right. I'm calling, no, you know,
now the like people have got their nickname in the grow out. Once you get your work name,
it's just part, it was part of the biz back in the day.
Remember Corey Cox? Yeah, I was going to, I was thinking, do I say that one? What?
I was like, should we say that one? It was funny.
We call them smelly because his last name was Cox smelly Cox, but he actually was smelly.
So it was very fitting. Well, it was, it was just that he understood it. Like it was
someone with named strap on. I can't remember who his name strap. Cause every time I turned
around there putting the undercarriage on or the straps, like T bar straps in the ring.
I can't remember. It was Amber. Oh my God. Yeah. It was Amber. That's terrible.
See back in the day, it was just, it was in-house joking now, like everybody knew it was all,
it was all in training. Like you never said that stuff outside of the.
No, like when I was called, I was called, uh, cause I was wrestling as Eric Atlas at one point
in my career and they were called, you should call me fatless. I was like,
does that supposed to be an insult because I'm fatless.
I feel like calling big cat, big fat. Like it would be terrible.
The fact that you've been taking two of these shit.
I can't do that anymore. I lost 30 pounds.
I'm jiggle. I have this loose, I've been losing weight and I have like the loose skin.
So I'm like, I'm going to lose weight. I'm going to lose weight.
I'm going to lose weight. I'm going to lose weight.
I'm going to lose weight. I'm going to lose weight. I'm going to lose weight.
So I just, that's what I'm happy. I wear the same thing.
So they're really tight. So you don't, so if I don't, if I take a bump,
my shit don't keep jiggling afterwards.
So moving, he's, he's supposed to be selling.
I mean, I think he is just his fat keeps just.
He hasn't reached the end of his body.
I'm a big guy. I can even f**k myself. I don't give a s**t.
So once you're wearing spandex, you're mostly 90% naked in front of people.
It doesn't, there's no shame. Like, you know, like, ah, this doesn't leave much
to the imagination. Looks like I'm smuggling grapes here in my single.
It doesn't, it's not flattering to be a fat guy and wrestling.
I mean, you know, I know I feel when I have no shame, you know, I've DJed everywhere,
including, you know, strip club before time.
And you see a lot of things.
Maybe Eric Johnson interview part two should be strip club stories.
We should, part two interview should be strip club stories.
Oh yes, definitely. 100%.
My lanta. I would, I stopped drinking at the wrong time.
I don't drink anymore. I would smoke. I'm trying to be healthy. I'm getting old. I'm almost 40.
So there was a lot of stupid things I've seen in my time.
Well, I've decided that the word and we're not going to do news tonight.
We'll do if you're up to a JP, we'll do news tomorrow.
That's fine.
Because I have to go to work in three hours.
So that's why it's this long and that's fine.
It's fine. It's fine. It's fine.
That's why I'm like, fuck the news.
This is only like scratching the surface.
That's why JP was all excited.
I have so many good stories.
I know. So while we will do this, everybody who's watching, we will be back tomorrow to do news live.
So that will also be on the news.
The king is here. They're lying to you, peoples.
Listen, my brother caught. They are lying to you.
They're not going to be back tomorrow.
They're a bunch of lying assholes.
If we have to, we'll be, yeah, they're lying to you.
They're not going to be back tomorrow.
They're a bunch of lying assholes.
Yeah.
Eric, thank you for the members.
All chances you get.
We are welcome, Kevin.
Kevin originally started as coach Beavis for me.
That was my pitch idea.
Team UK.
It's a lift on.
It's a great gimmick, dude. It's great.
So it's almost midnight.
Blow the whistle.
It's almost midnight.
So let's do this.
Let's end it with like the craziest DJ story.
That's strip club.
And then we'll call it a night and then we'll be back here tomorrow.
The area's one.
I'll give you a scary story.
It's a scary story.
We'll do that.
And then we'll be back here tomorrow for the news.
So there used to be a dancer, which is really sweet.
And she's always kept me very well.
For being the DJ, it's always cool lights and all the music she liked.
She was short.
That big posterior.
I'll say her dance name.
Not real name.
Her dance name was Violet.
And she was short.
Which built bigger girl.
But looked very nice.
She would climb the pole all the way to the top.
Flip upside down.
Be walking on the ceiling.
One time.
Mind you.
I don't know exactly the amount of feet.
From the pole.
On the stage.
To the top of the ceiling.
Probably a good...
12 to 15 feet.
Maybe more.
You've been in the club.
That club was months before.
How tall do you think the ceiling was?
That was a long time ago.
I've never been in a club.
We've been to that club before.
With Ben before.
So I don't remember.
It's like 15 feet.
Maybe a little bit more.
It's a tall room.
He was standing on the ceiling upside down.
And she was doing this little dance.
Completely upside down.
Feet on the ceiling.
She slipped.
And let go of the pole.
And fell.
I just saw her torpedo.
Toward the storage.
She catches it with her hands.
Swings around.
Last minute lands on her ass.
And she's laying...
And you hear this biggest loudest thunder clap.
And the whole club goes silent.
Mind you, my music's blaring.
Last...
Everybody stops and looks at the stage.
She's just quiet.
I stand up in the booth.
I'm level with the stages.
But I'm above it.
So I'm seeing down across the room.
I'm waving my hands.
I'm like thumbs up, thumbs down.
Making sure she's okay.
And most of the girls will give you a thumbs up or thumbs down.
They're not okay.
She puts her hands up like, stop.
She sat there.
She turned and used her pole to stand up.
And then she put her thumbs up at me.
And I'm like, oh.
I thought she broke her hip.
She fell.
I was like, oh.
She hadn't grabbed that pole with her hands.
Last minute and swung around and landed on her ass.
Choop and dead.
Yeah.
100%.
After that, I went and took it.
Back when I was back way long years ago.
I went and took a shot.
I went and got a shot.
Scosh went back in the booth and I was just like, oh.
I would have bought her a shot.
And I had to keep going.
So she got off stage.
But I let that song play through.
Because every girl usually dances for two to three songs.
And I let her whole set play through.
Because I went and got a shot.
I went back up there.
And then once her songs got done, I put the next girl back up on the stage.
Because it was like quiet.
In that club other than the music blaring.
Like you could, I could, I could.
You could hear someone cough.
It was scary.
There's some scary things like that.
There's also some non-scary things.
But that was a scary time.
Wow.
Yeah.
Holy crap.
Yeah, I got DJing and wrestling stories.
There's some stuff.
We'll definitely keep that for the next time.
We want to say thank you, Eric.
Sorry for keeping you this long.
But we enjoyed every single night.
It is almost midnight.
Yeah, I got to get up in three hours.
So I feel like.
Well, thank you again, Eric.
For jumping on with us.
Because definitely we got to do this again.
And you have yourself a great night.
Find Ring Wars.
Ring Wars 2, February 1st in Palmyra.
Still tickets are available.
Not that many left.
So get them while they're still available.
They'll probably sell out by the end of the month, guys.
We already know.
But yeah.
And best of luck to them.
Main Ring Wars, Facebook.
Get them if you can.
If not, you can hit me, old school EJ on Facebook or Insta or whatever.
And look forward to Ring Wars 2.
Ring Wars 3, sorry.
Ring Wars 3, March.
In March.
Thank you.
Yes, I appreciate it.
Thank you so much, Eric.
You have yourself a good night, buddy.
See you again soon.
See you.
That's he's trying to get.
There you go.
Yeah, I was like.
I'm like, fuck, we got to probably another hour and I can't do that.
I can't do that.
I can't just I can't just let you know how long the rest of the night.
And then I can just go.
I'm not going to do that.
That's why I have to do it tomorrow.
I have to get to Calais tomorrow.
Yeah.
So I might as well just stay up at this point if I'm going to fucking do
the news.
Just go straight to work.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got to drive two hours to Calais tomorrow.
So go get sleep.
Two hours.
Two hours to Calais in three hours, basically.
have that can have a discussion with this
will do the news tomorrow either nine or eight or nine o'clock it probably would be nine just
because it's normal just because we have a guest we've been talking about this possibly one days
where we doing guests we'll do a saturday and a friday show just because it's just a lot for all
of us as you can tell it's been almost three hours now with all of us on here so i want to
just say thank you all quickly do your fucking plugs so we can get out here and go to bed
and
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get the giant seven foot demon to go get pissed off at somebody else because I don't know
we already know he's coming for you.
No he's not.
He's not.
No he's not.
He's going to go far far away.
I guarantee you he's coming for you like 100%.
He I'm sure somebody else will piss him off before the evening starts.
All you're going to do is just look at him funny and you become his enemy instantly.
So somebody will give him a really funny look.
I guarantee you.
I'm staying away so it's not me.
Yeah don't look, whatever you do don't look at him.
Don't look him in the eyes.
I promise it's not fun.
It's terrifying.
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Not everything I should say.
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Thank you all so much for listening and watching for the live shows.
Like I said again we're going to do the news tomorrow.
Just makes it easier for everybody.
And also thank you audio listeners for listening on Apple podcasts, Spotify, everything.
Thank you guys so much.
I'm trying to hurry through this because I really need to go fucking.
Thank you.
So thank you guys.
We will be back tomorrow for the news.
Okay.
Hopefully we'll have more guys on just me besides me or me and JP.
Louis Levi's out of the fucking snowstorm.
Or maybe I'll be in one.
Anyways guys thank you guys so much.
Like I said tune in for tomorrow and we'll all catch you guys later.
Thank you guys for watching.