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Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of First Sessions Wrestling Podcast.
I'm your host, the main of main, Big Cat Tyler Adams.
And I am here currently today with the hardcore maniac JP O'Reilly.
And we have the First Sessions mascot, Mr. Arlo over here.
Dylan Licks is running a little bit late, he's coming very soon.
Levi Spade is actually having a show right now at Primos.
So if you're in Colorado, say hi to him.
And hopefully you guys enjoy that show.
Yeah, it's going to be a great night tonight.
We got Smiley, he's waiting in the background.
I'm just going to quickly get this off and get him in.
I'm really excited to have him on.
I can't remember what brought him up.
I think it was either last episode, the episode before that.
But I was like, shit, I'd love to have Smiley on.
Because I haven't seen him forever.
And reached out to him and he was 100% for the podcast.
So I'm very excited to have him on.
But thank you for tuning in live.
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We watch botches and stuff like that.
As we go over matches and it's not really easy to hear, I should say, when you're listening
to it.
So we cut that all that out.
So if you want to see all that, you have to tune in live.
Now as JP is shoving his food in down his throat.
I got to fill my stomach.
It's been a night, all right?
Somebody's already been drinking beforehand.
I was drinking this evening and now I'm filling myself up with a little bit healthier consumption
here.
So it's been a week.
It's been a wild week.
So kind of relieved stress, you know, everything kind of pushed aside.
So got the weekend, you know, kid free this weekend.
There you go.
A little bit traveling, a little nice, peace free, kind of very mellowed out weekend.
There you go.
Well, let's let's not keep our guests waiting for much longer.
We have the Superman psycho himself.
Give it up for Smiley.
Hey, how's it going?
Appreciate you having me.
Yeah, appreciate you coming on.
Geez, I haven't seen you.
I think the last time we we chatted was was Pine State.
And a couple years ago by now.
Yeah, that was a long time ago.
I was green as shit.
So so it's a little bit weird.
I mean, I'm not a fan of the
I'm not a fan of the show.
Yeah, no problem at all.
I'm happy to be here.
I love doing these things.
So we usually typically start like Levi usually does this.
So like I said, he's he's right now hopefully winning a match or something like that.
What started your wrestling career?
Like, just give us just a backstory of basically your whole career up to this point.
Ironically enough, it was kind of on a whim.
I I always grew up having two goals in mind.
I either wanted to be a stuntman or I want to be a wrestler.
And when I graduated high school, my mom had bought me a ticket to California.
She's like, go give it a shot.
Try to be a stuntman.
It doesn't work.
You can come home.
I was out in California for probably like 10 months and I was like homeless for three
of them.
Yeah, it was it was a trip.
So but I tried doing the stuntman thing.
It's a lot of catch 22 stuff like you got to know somebody to be on the big shows, but
you can't be on the.
You got to be on the you have to get reps to be on the big show, but you can't get reps
unless you're on the big show.
So it's like one gets 22 kind of situations.
So like that didn't work out.
I was doing like indie films and student films.
They were trying to kill me, have me jump out windows onto mattresses they found around
town.
So I chose the safer route and I decided to get dropped on my head for a living instead.
You know, smartness on me.
Yeah, that worked out.
Yeah, I went back home.
I'm originally from Maine.
So born and raised.
Then one day I was I was working out of a photo studio as a manager for like a Sears
photo studio and my cousin called me up.
He's like, hey, me and your brother going to move to New York.
You want to go?
I'm like, all right.
Like just out of nowhere.
I'm like, sure.
I walked right in, called my district manager and I went, I'm giving my two weeks notice.
I'm going to New York.
He's like, when did you decide this?
I went 10 minutes ago.
It was like, screw it.
Why not?
So they left before me.
So they got everything situated and then I had to, you know, finish up at work and get
rid of my I had an apartment and everything at the time and moved to New York.
And while I was literally like sitting at the bus station, waiting for my bus to come
to New York, excuse me, I just got like this idea.
I'm like, I'm just going to look around and I ended up on Tommy Dreamer's website and
texted Tommy Dreamer, emailed him because he's got the little email link.
I'm like, hey, I'm moving to New York like right now.
And like, I'm thinking of looking into wrestling.
But like, I know you were trained by Johnny.
So I know that's probably a good option.
I see Amazing Red has a school that seems like a good option.
I know you've worked with him before.
Like what do you think is the best way to do it?
And he kind of replied back like pretty quickly.
And he's like, he goes, honestly, they're both good schools.
He goes, to be honest, though, Johnny's not going to get in the ring with you.
He goes, Red probably will.
He goes, so take that into consideration and then whichever one you can afford.
And I came down.
I think it was like a week after I moved down, I went to the school and just to sit in on
a class.
And I sat in on a class and I watched them do their thing for a while.
And I stayed for like an hour and I'm like, I'll head out and like, I kind of got the
grasp of what I wanted.
And I went to leave and Brian, I felt like, you know, Red's going to be a buy if you want
to stay.
Oh, OK, sure.
And I sat back down.
Another 45 minutes goes by.
I'm like, I guess he's not coming.
I go to get him.
He's like, I'm half an hour away.
He'll be right here.
I'm like, oh, OK, go.
Sit right back down.
And I get it happened like three or four times and when is he coming, he goes, I don't think
he's coming.
It's like, I can't hear like almost the whole class.
And I'm like, all right, whatever.
Which would be a funny little habit of Brian's is, oh, yeah, yeah, we're going to it's coming.
It's coming.
And he always makes good on his word.
When he does promise does end up happening, but it's not usually not in the time frame
he told.
But yeah, so I went to that sit in on that class and I'm like, all right, I got I got
to get ready for this because I don't want to just jump in not ready.
I got to get ready for it.
So I went home that night.
I started to kind of like talk to my cousin about like working out and getting in better
shape and kind of like get everything ready for when I do go to school.
And then I think it was like probably like nine months later, something like that.
I walked I went to a show and FF family wrestling entertainment show.
Tommy Dreamer was on that one.
And I got to speak to him a little bit.
And then as I walk away, I spoke to him about how he encouraged me to be a wrestler.
He goes, All right, cool.
So why aren't you signed up for school yet?
I went, Oh, I was just trying to get ready.
He goes, Well, just do it.
He goes, You'll get ready while you're there.
I went, Okay, okay.
So then I walk away.
And then I go to a few tables down and it's Jay lethal.
I'm like, Oh, like, are you like still a trainer over at House of Glory?
Because you know, I've seen the videos online is yeah, I stopped by when I can but I'm usually
not in the area.
He owns it though.
He points over and it's Brian XL picking up his head from his phone doesn't remember me
at all, of course, but like, he starts pitching me to school.
I'm like, All right, cool, cool.
That Tuesday, I walked in signed up and just never wanted to leave the place like, like
I was always the first one in the last one to leave.
Like, I actually funny enough, I just found a video earlier today of like, me three months
into training.
And it's like a highlight video of like me without a mask or anything.
It's a highlight video.
It's me Mark Quinn from Private Party and another guy who used dress as Felix rampage, or Alex
Mason.
He went on to be Alex Mason.
I know Alex.
Yeah.
And we're like, I've heard that him.
Yeah.
Just doing dumb shit that we should not be doing at three months into training.
Spanish flies and like, I think there was like a like a Canadian attempts or something
like we're three months in we should not be doing any of this stuff.
Canadian temp three months in Yeah, that's verified of that.
I think Alex like three year probably three, not even two or three years after it started
wrestling.
So it's yeah.
See that.
Yeah.
He is a funny I'm from Maine.
He's wrestled in Maine more than I have.
Where are you from in Maine?
Portland.
Oh, no shit.
Okay.
I went to high school in Socko.
I kind of remember this because at the show, the PS was a PSPW at the time.
I can't remember what I think that's what big yeah.
And I remember at the show you well, you had a bunch of family there.
You're like, Hey, man, my family's like here in the front row.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
A whole bunch of friends show up with like friends, family, because they never really
get to see me wrestle.
I think I've wrestled in think I've wrestled in Maine.
Like maybe four times in like 12 years.
I've been wrestling.
We're gonna we're gonna get them back up there for new book.
I would love to come back up like always is like, Hey, so when you come back up, like
when when you're gonna wrestle again?
Hey, Johnny.
Yeah.
Well, I was gonna say, wasn't there a rumor going around that there was a possibility
of thoughts of that of the wild versus violent Mike again?
That would be cool.
I understand.
Do that again.
I Mike Ross and smiley both on my list of guys that want to work again.
So yeah, that's like I said, like we actually work work because the first time we worked
over green was before you got in here.
Like we were just standing on the on the outside watching a shotgun and a game and smiley Mike
and be like, Oh, this is cool.
Jump in whenever whenever I guess.
Were you guys like enemies at the time too?
Yeah.
I was I'm a perpetual heel.
Everyone wants me to be a bad guy.
They're like, Oh, look at your bad guy.
I'm like, then you meet me.
You're like, Oh, you're not really that way.
Are you?
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Right, okay, so it must have been fire, because I'm like,
thinking, was it smiley, or was it, you know, before or after that?
Because I don't remember if that's what it was specifically,
but I remember seeing something, and I thought that it was you,
and I was like, is that smiley?
I wasn't sure if it was you or not.
If that's the match you're thinking of, that was,
Forza Lucha used to do like a yearly show.
And I opened the show, like a pre-show match where I did,
I think I might have done like an imaginary hardcore match,
because I was wrestling Kefka the Quiet, who does a mind gimmick.
So we were doing like imaginary, like hardcore spots.
I love that show.
And then I won that one, and then I go on to the main show,
and then the opening match is like, it's me, Fire Ant,
Oleg the Usurper, and Juan Francisco de Coronado.
Okay.
In like a four-way kind of elimination thing.
And after my match with Kefka,
he beat me with an imaginary sledgehammer,
so my leg was so injured that when Juan put on a submission,
I just tapped that instantly.
Oh, man, that's great.
Wow.
And somewhere Jim Cornet is just spinning.
Oh, God, he would have hated it.
We straight up did the Necro Butcher spot where we put down fake chairs
and got into a deep squat like we're sitting in chairs to trade punches.
Oh, yeah.
I was like, imaginary throwing stuff into the ring,
and he's going, oh, God, I'm going to dodge it.
It's awesome.
That's amazing.
Then I think I swore to hit a bad guy into his chest.
As a guy that does the hardcore deathmatch shit,
that would be a very creative thing to do.
I've only tried the deathmatch thing a couple times, but it's fun.
What is, okay, so while Vic gets some stuff,
what is the, I guess, the most deathmatchy
or most hardcore thing that you've done, I guess, in your career?
I did a tag team matchup in Canada,
and it was Aiden Rain and Warhead from Death Proof Fight Club
versus me and Madman Pondo.
Oh, God.
And it was like a fans bring the weapons kind of match,
and it was so much fun, way more fun than I'd ever had any of my team.
It was so amazing to work with.
And then we were doing stuff, like,
I remember there was one guy in the crowd who had a jean vest on,
and it has the gimmicks that people hammer into somebody's head.
It could be Gusset's Kenzai.
Gusset, the little Gusset.
I'm trying to run Aiden Rain's head into his chest,
and he's going, do it, do it!
And somebody got the funniest picture of just this human being going,
ugh!
He looks like he's doing the No Mercy gimmick
when you collide into each other.
Oh, yeah.
Those matches are fun until the next day.
The next day is when it's like, oh, my God, I wish I didn't do this.
He still has Gusset's cars from a month ago in my arms.
I understand.
You do the extreme.
I was kind of upset, though,
because I was looking forward to bleeding.
I'm like, oh, this is going to be great.
I'm going to bleed everywhere.
I had a white mask and everything.
I'm like, this is going to be great.
And I got a little bit busted open in the head,
and I took the skewers from Warhead.
And I'm like, all right, I'm going to bleed.
All of the blood just sat here in the mask,
because it was an open-top mask.
But because it has a little crown piece that comes up like this,
it just all sat right there.
I'm like, everybody else gets to bleed.
I don't get to bleed.
That's why I feel bad for people that wear masks if they do death matches.
You have Arrow Boy.
You have Cruel.
You have guys way back in the 2000s that wore masks.
And you're like, they're not bleeding underneath the mask at all.
I feel bad for them.
Did you ever hear the story with Dalton?
He didn't wrestle.
I think he took a break.
He took a break, and then he did a show with Agro and Danger Kid.
I can't remember who else was there.
Was it Alec?
It might have been Alec.
I think it was down in New York.
Did that really broke the mirror?
Yes, I think so.
Yeah, OK.
He was doing a spot, and for some reason, him and another guy, another wrestler, collided and busted Dalton open, Dougie open.
And he's wearing a mask.
And he's wearing a mask, so the whole time he didn't know.
But as soon as he pulled the mask off, just, just all coming down.
He's like, oh, shit, I got myself good.
I got a couple masks like that that are still stained with blood inside,
because it doesn't go nowhere because it's wrapped tightly across.
The worst one I've ever had, so I used to wear face paint, actually.
It wasn't a lot.
It was just like a stripe across my nose.
I did it because I'm a huge Star Wars nerd, and it's Quentin Lavos, basically.
And I got eliminated from the ring.
Guy gave me a clothesline.
As he came down, he caught me right here with his knee.
So we hit the floor, and I just feel like something run down my cheek.
I'm like, what the?
I do this, and I pull my hand back.
It's purple.
I'm like, what the hell is purple?
I'm like, oh, I'm wearing blue face paint.
He pulled my cheek open.
Yeah.
But I'm like, what's purple?
Look who can join the ad.
Oh, I'll be nice, babe.
They're so buggered.
I'm not here tonight.
I'm ignoring the comments.
He's out there wrestling on a show, and he's just commenting on the screen.
Oh, that's right.
He's on a show tonight.
Yeah, he must be sitting there waiting for him to just go on or something like that.
To go with Dylan Nix's comment, after I'd done my first ever death match in Indiana from Mid-South,
I came back to Maine, and I did a fair show, family-friendly fair show.
This was like two hours after it had been done, and I had a big gaping hole right here in my forehead,
and I barely patched up, and I went to go wrestle at then Channing Thomas, and it was a danger kid,
and it was me and Tim Lennox, and we were doing a tag match, and they did synchronized superkicks.
Well, I put my hand up, and for some reason Channing Thomas kicked me in the forehead,
and I went out onto the floor or onto the grass, and I look down at the grass, and I go,
oh, when did they paint this side of the grass red?
No, that's not paint.
That's just my blood completely opened up, just pouring on the ground in front of an entire kids-friendly show.
And I sat there and was like, oh no, what do I do? My manager just puts a bandana and wraps it tightly around my forehead,
and he goes, yeah, you should be fine, just like how it felt with a mask.
And the next thing I know is I get into the ring for the hot tag, and the bandana just comes flying off, and it's just blood just spewing.
JP O'Reilly, I didn't know I was going to get kicked in the face from a superkick.
Yep, Channing Thomas.
Actually, you can't kick out of this one. The very first match for Smiley ever was a three-on-three against Necro Butcher.
Oh no!
And it was me, Anthony Gangone, and Kravint—no, sorry, Damien Gibbs versus Kravint Varo, Andy Lee Ray, who does a Pokemon gimmick.
Yep, I know.
When you see him standing side by side with Necro Butcher, and Necro Butcher, and Necro comes out headbutting a chair.
And mind you, this is kind of like more Beyond style, where it's basically just a bunch of wrestlers surrounding the ring.
There was no fans, it was just a bunch of wrestlers surrounding the ring for YouTube taping.
He's headbutting a chair, he pulls the chair down, looks up at us, and he's already covered in blood.
Oh great! Anthony Gangone wanted me to go. Oh my god, he's really good.
I can think of Sandman coming out of the crowd, drinking the beer, just doing—
Dashing the gate.
Come on, dude. I mean, I get Sandman, his entire thing was his—I'm going to work a show with him one day, he's going to beat me for this.
But for Sandman, his entire thing was his entrance.
When Andrew Sandman hit, and the crowd's screaming along with Andrew Sandman, I get hype about it.
I got this match.
Oh, he found it.
I did.
I still have that gear, I don't wear it anymore though.
Oh man, look at this. How old is this?
This is my 41st match.
Three years ago.
Do you write them all down?
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I got a spreadsheet, it's got every match I've ever had in it.
Am I up to 600 yet? Somewhere near that.
Wow, I'm just today never writing everything down.
I have so much chat with me in my, like, all on my media stuff.
Like, everything, but as far as making it to 6, I never wrote anything down, and I'm ashamed of myself.
You should've.
I would love—I'm at 160 right now. I'd love to do this summer around 40 and hit 200, because that would be awesome.
Hey, Sunshade.
And once I saw people tweeting, writing Gimmick, I was like, oh, yeah, it would've been a good idea to do, but now with me almost 11 years in the business, I'm like, yeah, I think it's a little too far beyond what I remember.
Such a young A-game, too.
Yeah, I got, like, I got my spreadsheet, I got everything written down to, like, how many miles I traveled for the booking.
How much I got paid, how much I spent for travel, how much I made in merchandise.
And it's like—
That's smart.
If there's, like, any young wrestlers listening, it's the most helpful thing ever, because you get to, like, look back at it and go, oh, last time, last couple times I was at this venue, I made, like, $400 in merchandise.
I'm gonna bring a ton of merchandise.
And then you go, oh, I did this show, like, four or five times, and I made, like, six, seven bucks, you know, off a couple stickers.
I might not want to bring a bunch of merchandise.
So it makes it so much easier when you're, like, judging, like, what to bring with you and stuff like that.
That's smart.
I'm gonna use it for a few minutes.
All these young, aspiring people that want to be wrestlers or are wrestlers, listen to that.
Oh, watch, watch Grasa slip on this.
I haven't done this one in a couple years.
Yeet!
Oh, no!
No, Grasa, no!
They're made—I think, honestly, I may have put my head down at that moment, because I think I saw him slip and went—
because I was like, I'm like, shit, is everyone okay?
It wasn't me being mean or anything.
It was a whole—it was like, I hope he's okay.
All right.
You guys talk about matches.
I'm pretty sure this is either, like, match five or six for me.
Like, that's how green I fucking was.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, for our team, I was the best.
I'm pretty sure it's 2021.
I can tell you. Hold on.
Yeah, I remember.
This was, like, our first time back together, me and Grasa's first time back together, because, like,
he went on a hiatus for a while where he was focusing more on, like, tattooing,
and then he just kind of, like, stopped wrestling and—
Tattoos? I didn't know that.
Just, like, randomly came back and we're like, oh, we should do some stuff together.
And then we did this match.
I tried booking Grasa for a full year up here and it never worked out.
I was like, maybe I'll come on tomorrow.
If you want the date, this is October 9th, 2021.
Wow.
So four years ago now.
Four years already? Jesus.
I know, it flies, man.
October 2021. That would be the same month that you and I, Dylan,
would have a one-on-one at Redacted Pro Wrestling.
That was a fun match, actually.
It was a fun match. That was the first time you ever gave me an exploded chuplex.
Yeah, and I remember you going, I don't take it.
I was scared. I was also very big.
So I was like, I'm scared.
Speaking of big boys, I've learned tonight I can't muscle-buster Storm.
The boy's too beefy.
I set him up for it. I went to pick him up and I was like, nope.
And I set him right back down on top.
How was class today?
It was fun. It was Eric running it, so it was interesting.
Oh, okay. So it was interesting.
Yeah.
You know, that's one of the things, man, you know, Smiley,
people look at you and they're like, oh, you know, they see you and they're like,
oh, you can't do any of this stuff.
And we watch you and we're like, holy shit.
Yeah, I get that one a lot.
I'm going to try and find the match that I was referring to,
just in case I'm completely crazy and it never existed.
But just in case for some reason it exists, it would be great if I did find it.
Yeah, I get a lot of the, you're really good for man your size.
Yeah.
Like, can't I just be a good wrestler?
Exactly.
Dude, I'm too right now.
I'm shoot to 75.
And everyone's like, and everyone doesn't like, I'm the same way.
Sometimes I can like, I do like really crisp rolls.
I'm like, I'm actually kind of a bladock for my size.
And they're like, dude, you shouldn't be able to move like that.
I'm like,
Me and Nick, I'm just standing there going like, like, oh, that's cool.
Oh shit. That looked like her.
I was like, that was dope.
If you could see me, like you can't see where I'm standing,
but every now and then I'd like to lean over to the couch.
Oh shit. That was cool.
I think me and Graz, I got a little too carried away
with beating up the two youngins.
That's all right.
You guys are having fun.
We're out here trying to hit all our bread and butter, apparently.
Hey, hey.
Dude, there's a thing with these little shows like this,
and I tell people all the time, like, what do you want to hit?
Hit your stuff. I don't care.
Yeah, I'll take that.
I forgot. I completely forgot what I even did in this match.
Chop.
Oh, puppy dogs.
So I was surprised you weren't hearing Trixie over there yelling at a Fortnite.
I was at the show.
I just watched grass. I take on JT done.
That was a banger.
Yeah.
Those two got so much history for time to sit on.
Oh, I put my arm down for that.
Yeah. Sentons.
We don't do those anymore because everyone in Maine does those.
Yeah. It's become a mainstay.
I do a flashing elbow now.
Chase it up a little bit.
And as I come up with most of my ideas for some of my moves,
it's like, what's everyone doing?
And then let me violate that expectation.
Yeah.
I think I know what happened with that move too, with that grassy smear.
I expected him to go down.
And he went up.
All right.
No, it was. I expected to go up then down.
And he just went straight down. And I was like, I jumped for him.
And I was like, I went the wrong direction.
So I apologize in advance.
The match that I'm thinking of that I thought involved you, Smiley,
was actually with a gentleman, Jervis.
Yeah.
That match might have gotten me some heat, matter of fact.
Right.
I was like, Oh, this is this Smiley.
And when I thought about it, I was like, Oh, he said, but no,
now I can see where I kind of got it all mixed up here.
Oh my God. My tan line is so bad.
There's the, if that's the same match I'm thinking of,
cause I'm sure those guys wrestled a bunch cause they were both in
Chikara.
There's a part in there where like Jervis kind of like grabs orange
and he rocks him to sleep.
That's, that's why, how I remember it.
I was like, Oh, I'm going to go to sleep.
I'm going to go to sleep.
Okay. So it's the same match.
I didn't, I've never seen the match.
So like me and Mark Quinn were doing a show one night.
And like, I just told him, I'm like,
God, me and him wrestled so many times,
we would just kind of go out into the ring and just start messing with
each other.
So like at one point,
I think I like grabbed him on my shoulders and I yelled out,
go to sleep.
And popped him up and he's thinking I'm going to give him the knee.
And I rocked him to sleep.
And then I think we're,
I think we're even like a rumble on Royal rumble or something.
And I just walk over to the room.
And dump them.
And then we were going to dump them up that point.
I gave him a little Iggy on that one.
But like,
it was one of them things where it's like we did that and we were doing a
double shot.
So we did that one in Jersey and then we had to shoot up to do the Bronx.
And then we were like,
I think I did the same thing to caveman.
Like I told him like,
Oh, I'm going to call it.
Go to sleep.
Poppy up, catch it.
Rocky to sleep.
I know I did it to Monte.
And then as we put them down,
I go to caveman and I try and pin Monte silently.
It's a stupid little dumb.
We were just having fun.
And.
Somebody posted it online.
And I think I said the, the crazy go to sleep or something like that.
Psycho go to sleep.
Some something like that.
And somebody tagged Jervis in it.
And I didn't know.
I didn't know Jervis actually like did the move.
Like I'd never seen the map.
Right.
And apparently Jervis got upset at me for stealing it moved.
And I'm like,
I didn't know you did it.
Like I haven't seen yourself.
Like I didn't know.
Well, I'm glad I brought that up then.
I'm glad there's some sort of reference to that.
Yeah.
Like I know in comedy, they call it like parallel thinking.
Yeah.
When like two people think of the same idea,
but they didn't hear it or see it.
The other person do it.
It's just their mind went the same direction.
That is the worst thing when you do a move on a show and it's like,
someone's finished and you'll use it for like a transitional.
Yeah.
I know.
Yeah.
Sorry, dad.
I'm sorry.
We got, we got a lot of trouble one time.
Cause we did a multi-man scramble.
That's my event before your guys' time.
But do anybody remember any FW?
I do not know.
No.
There was a promotion and chicka P Massachusetts, any FW.
And they brought us up like every single month.
And we were always doing shows out there.
Cause like I'm a guy that I'm passionate about and I love.
So it felt like like so many guys,
like us the top 20
It's like I don't remember what was going on after that but apparently I tried to go for the brainbuster on mark Quinn
And when I went for it instead of going straight down, I went this way
People were just like people were making comments online like how dare you like use that as a
Transitional move and this and that and I went it's the last thing I did in the match
Like it was supposed to be my finisher
Yeah, you know, but like and then like it wasn't like I let the guy kick out of it like somebody broke it up
but like they were so upset about it that we had to have a
JT done actually like
Agent our matches for like a good few months after that
I don't know if anyone saw it Trissy Trixie just missed it me and shotgun. All right, your face is covered
So I think we show that stuff took over. I went to work the next day and I scrubbed
I still swum up blue the next day. Everyone was like what happened? I was like, it's a long story
Yeah, that's how usually I say when I have the cheese grater the gusset plate marks on my forehead I'm like
That's a long story about that actually after after a couple years I literally just look at wrestling and they're like
So so I got a question for you what
How did you come up with your your idea for your gimmick? Like like what was the inspiration for smiley?
so
It's a lot of comic books because I'm a giant nerd who loves his comic books
The the genesis I guess of the whole situation
when I first started
Actually when I first first started when I first started training, I never even thought about wearing a mask
My thought was actually like oh, I'm gonna be this
paparazzi like character
Because like I was a photographer at the time. So like I had the cameras and everything. I'm like I'll be a photographer
So I'll stand around the ring and it'll it's my turn to wrestle
And then I'll jump up and blind my opponent with my camera and I'll attack them with it and I'm like
Wanted to be this dastardly heel photographer character
You know not really
Yeah, it would have been so much fun, but it's like
But I'm like I'm like until I get to that point where I'm comfortable with that. Maybe I'll do a mass character for now
Until I'm comfortable. So I came up with this character. I called arrow side
Which is about as generic of a mass wrestler character as you can get you know, like the tassels and like
The mask was like bright yellow and orange and red and like looked like fire it had phoenixes on it
I'm like every single
year one general luchador
And I only did that one for like maybe two or three shows
but like
in training
We were doing drills one day and I was like, okay
I think we're doing some sort of bump and I hit the buckle and I come out
As I come out waiting for the bump from red
Because I was trained by amazing red when I come up for the bump from him
He stops me. He looks at the rest of the class. He goes it doesn't matter how hard I hit him
He won't stop smiling
So he started calling me smiley
so
And this is kind of like the fun another funny one. Um, the opening video you know, I was like
Another funny one. Um the opening video that you guys had there
Uh, I think I think his name it said samuel
Samuel matthews. Yeah
his tights
The character on his tights. His name is smiley. Yep
So that's from a comic book called evil ernie
Which is one of my all time
And I took a lot of inspiration from the evil ernie comic books
So my original set the gear actually had the smiley on the sides, too. No shit
Yeah, they were like they were purple tights. They had green slime looking effect
And then they had the smileys on the side
And because I was a joker fan, too. I had kick pads that just said ha ha ha all over them
And then of course the the whole math thing
so like
The yellow mask was never meant to be worn in the ring
Like the yellow mask was just meant to be during the entrance
And I was gonna take it off and then wrestle because again i'm still thinking i'm gonna be like this dastardly heel character
So like i'm trying to be a bad guy and it's just it's not working
so
uh
But yeah, it was I did the arrow side thing for a few shows and then
I think it was anthony gang goes like you know
You should just run with this whole smiley thing like you can make a better character out of smiley
Than you could out of arrow side
So he kind of like encouraged me to run with the name smiley
Compared to like some generic name that I made up
You know because I was a big arrow star fan
So like like all right, like well, what is smiley like, you know, what what could he be?
and then I started taking all these comic books I have and i'm reading through those like
Uh, there's another one. I don't know if you guys ever seen it's called the crossed
Where's about like these people get infected with this disease and they go nuts
And they become psychopaths and stuff like that and like so i'm taking a little bit from there a little bit of joker a little
bit of evil ernie
Even today now like I got my little leather jacket and everything. It's very reminiscent of like evil ernie always had his leather jacket
So like it's a lot of like comic book inspiration. I just jumped everything up and I made me
you know, and then as far as wrestling inspirations, I took a lot from like
Like the mask thing I started doing that because uh mill mascaras
Is a huge like traditional lucha fan. So like mil would do like the gimmick where like person snap mares him
He goes for the mask takes him off. There's another mask
He takes that one off another mask, you know, and he does do stuff like that. So I started
Incorporating that into my stuff. So that's why every now every match I do the the double mask
Uh, that's a little nod to that. I get the comic book thing. My original nickname in wrestling was the dweller of the depths
Which uh, if anyone's an aquaman fan knows that was uh aquaman before the new well just before the or after the new 52
It was when arthur joseph curry was aquaman and he was like the the dweller with the half octopus face and
That's where the octopus stuff came from. And so yeah, I get it. Trust me. Oh, yeah comic books great inspiration. Yeah
Yeah, 100%
Here's a good question for you. So obviously you established the smiling character and everything
How was it working with?
ricochet
Oh god, I loved ricochet like he was so much fun to work with
And like I I like to refer to like our first match because we wrestled twice
Um, I like to refer to I have this up. That's why okay
Yeah, so that was the first time we wrestled awesome
and that one was like a super cool moment because like
I call it like my aha moment
Because like ricochet came in and he's like, all right. So, um, what do you want to do?
And i'm like, well, this is the story I have in mind
He kind of like took a step back like
Okay
And I didn't give him like a bunch of moves that I wanted to do
I just kind of gave him a story that I wanted to tell
Because like they had already been announcing low key versus ricochet
So i'm like listen, everyone knows you're going to win
So why don't you know you're gonna take me lightly and every time you take me lightly I get up on you
And it was kind of like that that moment was like, oh this is kind of what i'm supposed to be doing not like coming up with
A thousand different moves. I should be doing. Yeah, that's still kind of do anyways
I'll put a little story behind a little still kind of do a bunch of different stuff
Well, it's like I know um our trainers a lot of times will say like like
Everyone could do a hundred moves, you know, I can
There are some guys out here that could do like like ricochet and like you can do like the flippy deals and stuff
But it's telling the story between that's important. Yeah
So 100% and that seems like it's that's being lost a lot lately is there's no story just
Hey these cool spots, let's do these cool spots and instead of you know
Building that like that story around the match to keep people entertained
It's kind of becoming gift wrestling at this point, you know, yeah
It's like people are kind of like oh, what's the the viral 30? Uh, three second clip. I can get out of this match, right?
Exactly. Well, but like compared to like
you know
What's the story you like to make out of this?
Yep
This is totally 14 too. So like that's a whole different era of time
I think I was only a couple years in at that point
Right and you had you think of that
Timeframe and the stars that there are
Then that are just getting signed like you're talking about like obviously like sammy zane kevin o and like those guys are getting signed at that time
And like you see this generation of the way that your style of wrestling is then versus like compared to it now
Like how significantly different better, you know, it's stuff like that. It's very like eye-opening
Oh, yeah
It's it's fun to watch nowadays like you see like all these guys on tv and stuff. It's like i've wrestled him
I've wrestled him. I've wrestled him
It's funny because like I look at it
Sometimes I look at some of the people that are on raw and sacked out and I go
Oh, I trained with that guy or like that guy trained me this guy that I trained with him like it's something
Wild
Oh, yeah
I got a watch that's not full that that looks out. Yeah, that's fun
I was pulling up my phone and I was like, oh my god
I was pulling up random masses. I saw that when I go. I remember this one
Speaking of which a I have one under uh, it's on a private thing because I don't know if they want to have that but
One of my favorite matches I can send you guys. It's uh
It's a four-way dance at new japan when they came to manhattan
And it's me montequia speedball mike bailey and masquerada dorado
damn
damn is one of my favorite matches ever and like
Like yo like goosebumps kind of like there's a moment like I think right in the entrance where like I go to take the steps
Into the ring and I stopped and I took a step back and I went
dang
I'm here right now. This is crazy. Am I here? Yeah. Yeah
And it was it was that was a dope moment and it's funny because that happened
And then it's like the next week
I think it was like the next week or like something like that. I was in boston doing the aew show
No, I was doing the extra work for aew. Yeah, and
That moment was bittersweet
Um first I I kind of didn't tell anybody I was coming because like I know most of the aew roster
Like I've worked with most of them like all that other stuff
But like I didn't tell mark quinn or isaiah cassie. I was coming up most like two of my best friends. I love those guys
Right. So like I show up
Uh, I go in they're like, all right, put your stuff down here. I'm like, all right cool
And then I kind of like start wandering around a little bit and I walk through like the little tunnel gimmick and I see like the ring
I'm just kind of like standing like off to the side like it's not like the main entrance
It's just like some random walkway. Yeah, I'm just standing there looking into the ring
And isaiah just turned at the right time and he looked and he's getting a speech from william regal
He just looks and he sees me standing there and just kind of laughs to himself and shakes his head
And I'm like, I'm like, all right, cool. And then uh, I think stokely half a way walked by me. I'm like, hey
Have you seen quinn?
He's all I think he's in the stands or something. So I started walking in the other direction. He pointed me
quinn comes around the corner looks at me like
Jaw just drops and he runs and gives me like the biggest hug and it's like, you know, this is cool
Like i'm here with my friends
And then like when they put up the board and they put the matches
it's uh me
uh channing thomas and
I forget his last name. I feel awful. I always do it
No, his first name was kyle
And no, he's a personal trainer
Like I have it on blanking too, right and then but it's us three versus private party and matt hardy
Like I get to go wrestle my best friends now
At aw in boston, you know a few miles away from maine where I grew up right and so it's it's like
You know, it's sweet sweet sweet sweet and then the bitter part comes
And I start to remember what day it is
I'm like, oh shit
like
Today is the three-year anniversary of matt travis's
Death when matt travis passed away. Yeah, it was like three years to the day from when he passed away
Yeah, I remember
That one and so i'm like that one kind of took me back
And like right before we go out I look to quinn. I go, you know what today is right? He was what I go
It's three years since mattie passed
And i'm here with you guys and like one of the biggest opportunities ever. It's like this is this is mattie's doing, you know
This is somehow he had a he had a hand in this, you know
All right, I did just find something that I have to ask about I don't know if you guys went over it while I was
not here, um
Is rock lobster?
Oh, yeah
It's like smiley also known as rock lobster and i'm like
Hold on. I gotta ask. Please tell me that's mean inspired
You know what's funny is even the locker room was so upset with chikara for not letting me be me
Like I never understood why that should be the place
It's that's what i'm saying like and it's crazy because I always wanted to go to chikara like
I thought I would fit in perfectly. I love the product
And it was like this would be perfect
And like I went did the the trial and like they called me back and like all right, we'll bring you in like hell
Yeah, like we're gonna make your rock lobster. I went
Sure
It's your company i'll do whatever you want like yeah
Yeah, and not many people actually got to keep their names when they went to chikara like I understood that going into it
Yeah, I mean look at all the characters who came out of chikara like, you know, those weren't people doing it on their own
Yeah
Oh, yeah
And so it's like it's like all right, like i'll do whatever you want me to do and then I started having like
Like just ridiculous fun with it
Like I asked because like in the beginning i'm like, I don't know what to do because i've been me for so long
I don't know how to be somebody else right? So like the first couple matches it kind of took me a little bit
But I think the one I kind of like
I think it kind of clicked into me
Is it was like me and kimberly were wrestling?
And she had the hair ties in her in her hand and her hair. I thought do you have multiples?
She goes, yeah, I go. All right, cool. I'm gonna try and pinch you like with my claws
Put the rubber bands on my hands
She's like what I go think of it the lobsters at the the supermarket have the rubber bands on the hands
So like I really I put it down
I go snatch the grab the hand rubber band
I go ah try to get it with this one rubber band this one and i'm running around the ring going
Ah
Take it off take it off
And like after that point it's like oh
Yeah, this is who this character is yeah
And then I just started doing like anything that sounded even close to brock rock or whatever like
I would do in my sit down at five
So brock lobster
I was imitating the the rock so I would do the people's elbow
But when I was doing the like the right just start choking somebody like ah
Oh my god
That was the other fun part too is like
Like I show up as smiley and at this time I've tried being heel i'm terrible at it
But like I show up and i'm trying to be
You know i'm like all right, well, maybe they'll make me a baby. No, they changed my gimmick and then make me a heel
so i'm like, all right
Now I really got to figure out what i'm doing because i'm a terrible heel
But you know with that character it kind of worked out and with that crowd like you know
They just eat up whatever you give them anyways
So I just thought of the torqueiest thing
So I I worked on a lobster boat for the last number of years and i've worked with lobsters
I know a few things about them so they swim backwards
It'd have been funny as hell if you did the rock bottom or did it backwards
Oh man
Just instantly like run backwards to the rope bounce off run over the guy
Bounce off and do like a back splash instead of an elbow or something. Oh, wasn't that great?
I've been like
Oh man
I saw that I was like I gotta ask
I was trying to see if I could find a match
Um, I found I found one that I was curious about
I'm sure this this brings back a little bit of memories here. Oh boy
What can you tell me about this match?
Uh
We got our time cut down a lot because like other people were going over on mares and stuff like that
Yeah, six minute 50 second videos. So I imagine that got caught short. Oh, yeah
so like we're trying to like figure things out, like
I love wrestling with uh, I still call him shenron
Zen shi now, I guess it is or no is ariel van goh now or something
Yeah, she can never keep track
But uh love love wrestling with him
But they came to us like right before this and like, yeah, is mine cutting it down to like a five minutes?
Oh
Sure
Do I mind? Yeah, I'm like
Sure, do I mind? Yes. Will we do it? Sure. I guess
There's a I think it's probably coming up soon. There's a spot in here. That's
It's a little like a toss-up when I post it
Some people think it's like the coolest thing ever and other people like I don't understand what just happened
Where I tried to do almost like a reverse spanish fly
oh
so instead of doing the back clip to the rock bottom I try and do the uh,
Oh, it might have already passed because I think this might be finished
I went right in the middle of the match just because I was curious. Is it off the i'm assuming out of the corner
I
Think he goes to do like the the cross body thing and then oh, yeah, I got stuck there, too
Oh, no, the muppet was stuck under the middle. So oh, no, I got stuck. He kicks me and i'm like stuck
I'm like I can't move. I can't
Oh man, there was me the match I had I was working, uh,
Monty Aries
and
Lee miller and monty went to I went to go over the top
Oh, I think i'm a big boo and he moved and I kind of went over the top rope
But as I went over my my other leg caught in the rope and the rope twisted
And I was literally stuck upside down and monty bless him just looks at me gives me a couple quick kicks and pulls the rope
So I fall I was like, oh, thank you. Thank you
Wow because I'm stuck I was like I couldn't move
Shit as well as I did that in training one time like I went to do like the the spaceman dive
And for wherever I guess I was wearing like my street shoes and they didn't quite have the grip
So when I went to step off the middle to dive to the outside my foot goes through the ropes
And I just kept going so I could wrap my ankle up in the the rope
And everybody else thought it was funny and like this one kid like freddie love comes up and he's like trying to help me out
And everybody else like oh, that's great. I'm like, he's like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm like
I'm like, you guys might help me here like
That's great. I'm stuck you assholes
I did that by any love freddie love come and help you out
I did that by accident match with eric like I forgot what I did but I like stepped through my
I fucking twisted in between like uh the middle and bottom rope and got myself caught
She's just sitting there beating the shit out of me. I'm like wait, I can't move
Hold on hold on not playing not playing what's going on? It's real to me. Damn it
Have you have you suffered any
significant injuries at all in your career that were like either career threatening or just like
complete accident like
completely unexpected
Uh, there's uh, nothing like crazy. Thank god. No, no
Nothing like wildly severe
Ironically enough mostly to my ankle like um
I was about to say who's his name alexander james. I think his name was
Um, but I I used to do like the uh, little corkscrewed through the middle ropes
Actually, I think I did an art match there where like I do like the almost like the
Twisting yeah, yeah, what were you? Oh, I don't know but when he caught me
He kind of gave me one of these and when he popped me up, it said uh, emma
Wc and they got like the thick guardrails
And he popped me my body twisted that little extra bit and my ankle wrapped around the guardrail
And like
Everything was black and blue
luckily like the finish was like right afterwards
But like the finish was for me to do a 450 land on my feet
after that
But like call the fly like we ain't doing that
Like we ain't doing that. Yeah, right. I should have but I would get dumb sometimes and i'm like i'm gonna do it anyways
Yeah, and then there was another one where I did a moonsault off the top rope to the outside
and usually when I do it, I have multiple people catch me because
i'm fat so like
Uh, but the other kid that was supposed to catch me when he did his dive. He messed up his ankle
So he wasn't there. So i'm like, oh
This one guy should be able to catch my big ass. Why not?
So I do the moonsault and when I land because he kind of gives me one of these
He puts me down and puts all the weight on one side and I twist my
And I had a severe a severe sprain of the ankle
But like the adrenaline was pumping so much that during the match. I didn't even know that is so like it's literally like
sprain your ankle
Two guys do something else
I think they did like a tower doom and then they did a
I think they did like a tower doom and then i'm hitting like a front flip coast to coast with a sprained ankle
and i'm like
like the end of the match i'm doing like
Poison ranas to this other guy and i'm like
And then I get to the locker room. I'm like, this is great. I cannot feel my leg
Why does it hurt? Oh, yeah
It was to the point like I I got home that night which sucked because I had to drive
Like so i'm trying to drive with it too because of course, it's got to be the right ankle
So it's got to be the pedal angle
So i'm trying to drive
Like I get home. I'm like i'm just gonna sleep this one off. I'll be fine in the morning
I got up in the morning went to stand up and just collapsed
And like I looked at my girl. I looked at Trixie. I'm like I need to go to the hospital
Like I never want to go to the hospital. I needed to
So like her mom gave me her cane
And I had to use a cane just to get into the er and everything. Oh, yeah, like that that one is
Rough I can very much relate to
The plenty of times are like some things felt like it was an injury, but i'd wake up the next day be like, okay
Totally fine. And it was nothing and then the one time where I thought it was going to be nothing
It turned out to be something and I ended up breaking my tailbone
uh
At the end of 2017 I woke up the next morning and I actually physically could not roll out of bed
And I was like, uh, I think I need to go to the hospital because I could not could not physically move
I might my body would not let me and it was just because I literally got drop kicked into a steel chair. That was like
Just in a sitting position. I had like
somehow sat into the chair and had taken the the rim of the seat and had
Uh literally shattered my tailbone
Yeah
Oh, yeah, that's right. You show me that I showed you that a complete accident and uh, I this was
35 minutes into a elimination style tag match
Oh, so and we're still went for another 15 minutes and I was in the final two
No one had been eliminated yet. This is 35 minutes into it and i'm like
Oh, this is gonna be a long rest
So then I
Absolutely painful and yeah, no and then I was out for uh, almost five and a half six months because of it
So I can understand that it's not a good time
Um, actually just oh, sorry. Go ahead. Okay. I was supposed to say I think i've worked through
Most of my injuries the only one that took me out for a little bit was that sprain
And that one sucked because like I was supposed to team with grasa for rwa at one point
I mean like literally like they named the show. I think it was like fit to be tired or something like that like
in preparation of us actually coming to the show
and like I had to hit him up i'm like i'm so sorry, but like
I can't even stand on my own foot right now. Like I can't my leg don't work. Yeah
The other one that sucked was a sprained uh groin muscle
So it was training with jay leafo. I went to do a cross body he ducked and when I hit I pulled the groin muscle
so like i'm trying to like
like that one like you just be walking down the street you just
Your foot twists the right way. It's like ha ha ha like
Oh, yeah. Oh
yeah, and yeah the the terrible part with the the um, the spinal with the tailbone was you you can't
Put a cast around your tailbone. Yeah, it had to be given a therapy pillow and I worked in a sit-down job at this point
So I was sitting for eight to ten hours a day. I had this therapy pillow
Let me tell you that therapy pillow did nothing
and
I was in the most pain that I ever could be
And every time I got up out of that chair even to this day I'd get up into this chair and else
I'll feel pain in my tailbone just because that pain stays with me. It's just not as excruciating as to when it was broken
But oh god now you're bringing it up
This is it right here. Yep. This is right here the spot and I have broken my tailbone
It looks subtle it doesn't look like anything really had happened
But the chair literally had broken over my tailbone and I had shattered it completely
And I still continued on to this point and and at one point I get rolled out onto the floor
I hit the floor like a sack of potatoes because I just did not feel anything
at this point and all I hear at this point was just just take this and
I'm in so much incredible amount of pain and I don't know what's going on or what to do because I was
Oh god
Yes, that was not a good time. This was
December of 2017 and I was out until like April May of 2018 next year
Oh, it just be just from that and I'm like if I would have tried to fight through that injury
I probably would have suffered probably something a lot worse than it probably would have never came back
Oh, yeah
that's that kind of brings up the one of our questions that we like to ask are um,
people that we uh
Guests coming on the show. What is the worst? Uh bump you've ever taken?
And the worst bump you've ever seen
Wolf
I mean seen there's been so many
600 matches yeah, I can I can see that
Uh
I I haven't really
Taken them. I haven't really taken too many
that that were like that sucked because like
In most cases like i'm pretty good at like controlling my own
Kind of my own situation
So like I don't have to rely on somebody else to put me down like I know how to contort myself
I guess to like i'm gonna bump the way I want to bump
You know what I mean? So like I haven't had too many like there's been a couple where I'll do like a die to the outside and
The people outside decide they want to part like the red sea all of a sudden and just
Ass to grass kind of situation those are those are never fun. That'd probably be me if I did that
It would be like fuck i'm not good
Yeah, two dives off of the apron in my life and I will never do it again because both times
I've like almost borderline fucked my shit up and i'm like, yeah, I gotta stop doing it
As a as a six foot two like, you know 340 pound person's like no, that's not
Right now I need to stop
Uh
I've seen actually maybe
This might be the worst one. I thought we we were doing
We're doing a battle royal in
I think it was massachusetts
And the the outside of the the ring had like this blue canvas on it
so apparently mark quinn thought it was like
Padding. Oh, no
So he does a spot where he jumps up on the on the top rope
And a guy comes behind him and pushes him off of the top rope so he could jump to the outside and eliminate himself
He jumped and I guess he decided he wanted to flip
Thinking it's matt and he hit and you just hear
Oh
I remember turning around look at that. I just see
Oh, oh no, oh my gosh
How did he survive that
He was he was limping that of course, we always go to the diner after he's sitting there going
Like limping like a 90 year old man. I'm like, oh god
And actually if I remember correctly because I do get dropped on my head a lot
If I remember correctly that same match we had another kid
His name's nicky heat
um
I love nicky did that
nicky
Uh his left hand doesn't work
And his dump his tongue doesn't function so he can't speak
So his left hand is gimped and he can't speak so
Kind of like cerebral palsy, but not really I guess because I think that affects the other side
But we're doing the match and somehow somebody goes to eliminate him
And his bad hand gets wrapped up in the rope
With his foot
So he's hanging upside down and somebody's like beating me up in the corner
I'm trying to get away from him so I can go help him and you can just see him stuck there. He's like, ah
I don't think he's moaning because he can't talk
And i'm like, oh no
And then guys I gotta find this battle royal because it's so eventful
Oh my god, and then that same rumble, um
Which me and nicky were fighting whatever he throws me over the top rope
so I reach over and I grab him like i'm gonna give him like a
Like a suplex to the outside
And I pick him up with the intentions. I'm gonna put him down
I pick him up and somehow we maneuver to the point where I brainbuster him onto the apron
And he falls out and I went i'm sorry sir
And like as I stand up on my phone go back in the ring
He knows sells it jumps up grabs me and yanks me off the apron
So I land I look at him and we just start to walk like hitting each other all the way to the back
Not a at all story involved in this like nothing. It's just we just start grabbing each other just starting to hit each other for no reason
He knows all the brainless on the apron and everything
The in relation to that there's one one thing I remember this was like a couple years ago. I was doing a battle royal, uh
Big cat and dylan nexel know this is a for larry huntley when he does the scouting fair
Um every year we the first night they always end up doing like a battle royal
And one year I was supposed to be in the final two
Uh, so at one point there had only been like two or three eliminations and I get tossed over out onto the apron
And somehow it lost my footing
And I had fallen off completely off the apron, but my feet were like on the apron
But the rest of my body because it was a low boy was just hanging out on the grass
But it was so dark because the the sun had already casted away because they're outside
And there was no like spotlight like out in the ring
We were just like hey, we got to finish this up before it gets completely pitch black
No one really knew what was going on
No
No one really noticed that I had been eliminated and so like I have a referee telling me
Hey, you're eliminated and I see no reaction from the crowd. So i'm just like
No, i'm not and I roll myself back into the ring because nobody had seen me get eliminated because it was so dark out
And I had completely botched and just slipped off the apron because it was like wet
I don't know what was wet either the ropes or what but like I had been hanging off of it from my feet
It was just like nah, this still counts. It rolled myself back
That reminds me of lee miller in vacation land where we did that. There was the uh battle royal
And he went to eliminate me eliminated me and accidentally eliminated himself
the
Refs weren't paying attention. Oh, he just looks around
and goes
Okay, and then slides himself back in and like
I'm just gonna continue like nothing ever happened. If the ref doesn't notice it. Why would you not climb back into the right?
Why wouldn't you the fans are like he's been eliminated. He's been eliminated. He's like no, I wasn't I don't know what you're talking about
We did one time and somebody somebody throws me over the top and they hit me so I would fall
I kind of fell on my butt and then they kicked me so I could like and I wrapped my legs around the bottom rope
So i'm hanging upside down being all dramatic like oh no
I'm falling as i'm hanging upside down. All I can see is mark quinn upside down himself slowly going like this close to me
Like what are you doing here?
And he starts to slip and I grab him and somebody got this picture
I gotta find out my my phone or something. It's me and mark quinn holding each other hanging upside down from the bottom rope
Like trying to eliminate each other. We're just literally like holding each other like
Like
Now have you guys ever done a shoot battle royal
We're like because i've done this on a couple of fair shows where the promoter will literally go listen
I got 300 bucks
It's a shoot whoever wins it wins it
And then maybe let a bunch of wrestlers in the rank to the shoot try and win 300 dollars
It's the funner thing ever
And like alexander lee would like literally beat the piss out of everyone. I was gonna say there'll be so many fucking potatoes thrown in that fucking bag
Finally about the potato incident from mew, please
Oh talk about that you want that to where
So how did it start lee miller in his match?
Got hurt from jason maverick. He did a spot where he fucked up his back
And he's out. I think he's out like second in this fucking rumble
and
He's just taking bumps and shit like that. He's trying everything he can not to
Not to hurt his back
But people keep on like hitting of course, he doesn't tell him what he like don't hit me in the fucking back
So everybody's just fucking like doing clubs and shit to him eventually just gets pissed
He got pissed and just starts throwing potatoes everywhere
Potatoes everywhere. I I had been sitting in the crowd the entire night because I was a spot was a fill-in spot where I
Jumped in from the crowd and jumped into the end of the row
So I didn't know what was going on in the locker room or what had happened between the matches or anything
I was just playing my character
While being out in the crowd with everyone else had no idea what was going on
I go in there and once I started throwing some offense in next thing. I know I see dylan nix
He's like got a little blood on him and then I see big cat and somebody's else bloody then I go
Where is everybody getting bloodied? I walk over to lee miller. I go to hit him all of a sudden right in the face and I go
Oh now i'm bleeding what and i'm
Bleeding the most and I go
What is happening?
It's so and all you see is lee miller just fighting for his life
Like like everything that he can to not get hit in the back to see it already been hurt
So this time we do have normal questions. We actually asked for interviews of levi spade is here
But one of the ones there's two questions. He asked that I like uh, one is what is the worst bump you've ever seen
We were asked that one already asked that already asked that one. I missed that one
Do we ask favorite title belt yet? No, we have not asked favorite title favorite title belt
Like in all of wrestling or that I've held everywhere every while. Yeah
All time could be in the indies could be on the main like, you know main shows anything like that
You're not here can't leave get your fucking ass back here
I mean
The first ones that come to mind
Is ecw the heavyweight title?
I've always loved that belt because like I was a huge ecw mark
Like I used to have to sneak over to my grandmother's house because she lived next door to us
I used to have to sneak over to watch it because my mom wouldn't let me watch at home
But like I always loved that belt
um
I think I have a replica one somewhere in my storage unit, too
It's signed by the most it's signed by like matt striker and edge
Weird and I think rhino is like so weirdly signed but I have um, I I do have a replica
It's actually in my back room. Um when I lived in my old place, I had like eight title belts
Just hanging on the wall. Look really cool. Yeah
Yeah, that one. I love that one
That and like I love the iwgp title
Like the original one though, like okay
No, the the remake one's cool, but it's like that's not what I grew up on, you know
Uh, so my problem with the iwgp title
I love version four the one that okada like and omega and everyone held. I love that belt
The version five looks like something all might would wear this one. Yeah
I hate that belt with that one just reminds me of cody rhodes's tattoo
Yeah, yeah exactly did you ever hear the story about cody talking about that tattoo
Yeah, we uh, that was one of the the
Things that were I was gonna play but it was at that time. It was midnight
Okay, we gotta get this shit going. Yeah, I think we're all like we're all tired
I actually got embarrassed myself to cody rhodes once
Really? Yeah, yeah
It was kind of like I guess like a a mine lapse kind of situation because like
He came to hog and he was doing some stuff with hog for a little while
Yeah, and like at one point I told him I'm like
I'm like, oh like, you know growing up like because he mentioned something on the podcast like he loves hearing stories about you know, people's relationships to dusty
So some of them like you know to this day
Like I can't watch tag team wrestling without thinking somebody's gonna turn on somebody else. I know because I remember watching when I was younger
it was uh
Dustin rhodes and dusty rhodes
versus
rick flair and I can't remember who the other person was might have been like tully or something
and I just remember
Dustin finally gets the hot tag
and
I said and dusty comes in he like makes it look like he's gonna have a house car and won't just dust it
and cody's like
I don't think that's right. I went yeah. I remember like clear his day. He goes
That was that wasn't dusty. That was dusty
That was that wasn't dusty. That wasn't dusty like that was and I went
Are you sure and i'm debating with this man that it was his dad
Doing this. I'm literally like I swear to god. It was him. I went back
It was arn anderson and andustin rhodes
arn anderson comes in and I love it because he comes in he goes
Totally easy misconception
Misconception, how would you know anything about your dad man? Come on, right?
And I just I remember what
Like I walked away and I went
It was the bad dusty and I found the clip like lately like I was on my phone like after that I went
Oh god, i'm so embarrassed
Like oh god
Uh, actually it feels like me when I was trying to bring up the the jarvis thing with
I was like, I feel bad that it's not the right person. Oh god. Everybody always did that with me and me and jervis
But I always thought it was funny because jervis hated me. Ah, it's terrible
He's the nicest nicest human being alive is his whole gimmick and he hated me. Yeah
That does bring up a fun question speaking of like uh, like big names
Is there anyone you've ever met like as a big name and you were just like starstruck and you couldn't like talk to them?
Uh muda maybe oh my god, I would get wild
Yeah, I was definitely in awe of muda when I first met him
uh
Um
Minoru Suzuki was another one
That one that one was that one was mad cool because like we were doing the the new japan show
So it's like it's like me and montekio standing side by side. We're just trying to hang it out like
You're not trying to be in the way or anything like so we're just standing there hanging out
And the noro walks by and he looks it looks at me and me and monta and he goes
Like he looks
Shakes his head in approval and starts to walk away and monta goes
Should we go ask him for a photo?
I need to go ask him for a photo
Maybe photo he goes, uh later
match now
Okay. Okay
So he goes calls his match or whatever and me and monta is just sitting there like chilling again and he comes over he goes
photo now photo now
So we're ready to pose for take
Banner
Like what he walks us in front of like the new japan banner
And he poses with us there. Yo that photo I got the cheesiest girl like
The other two are like trying to look like badasses. I'm like, yeah
That's awesome i've marked out for that man definitely as bob evans always says take the damn picture
Yeah, and like i'm trying to do more with like everybody like because there's you know, it's like matt travis man
Like I love matt travis to death. I have no photos with him
like maybe a group photo here there, but
We don't have any photos. We don't have any clips together like how many people post photos of him with them
I was like man. I wish I I wish I met them. Yeah, I have I always feel like i'm bothering them like when like like
Uh, like because we had like mr
Anderson and I was like, oh I really want a fucking picture with him
I'm like, I don't want to fucking bother him and shit like that. Like when the like when like big wrestlers come in
Um, like uh, we're gonna have um
Um macrodona is coming. Yeah, we got sunday
And it's just like oh it's like I don't want to be I don't want to be a bother be like hey
That's it. Can you do this?
Oh my god, I just saw something I have the white icy title in the back room
I think i'm gonna have inside it. Yes, you sure
Yes
It's fine too though because like like I was like that same way where like I didn't want to bother anybody and stuff like that
but like I kind of started to learn like after a while like like i'm just gonna get the photo and then like I start realizing like
they kind of appreciate it because like
That's what they're here for, you know, like it's nice. It's cool to know that like we're making an impact on the fans
But to know like we're making an impact on the boys too. It's like oh like these guys are here for us and kind of situation
My they were talking about how you poisoned misted them
Yeah, a lot of people came over and they just shoved me through like his behind
My first I would say my first or second limitless show I can't remember which one it was but tommy dreamer was there
yeah, and I all the other boys were I I could easily like although like
I don't want to say local guys but more of the you know, the limitless guys. I I easily could walk up like hi
I'm andy. How you doing, you know just for shooting. And by the way
walk up say hi to everyone. I had no problem with that. Tommy Dreamer walks in and sits
down and it's Tommy frickin Dreamer. I grew up watching him on ECW. This is the innovator
of violence, you know, I'm sitting there like my eyes are this big. Alexander Lee walks
over me, nudges me and is like, go say fucking hi. And I was like, I can't. I was so nervous.
Finally, I walked over like, hi Tommy, pleased to meet you. He's like, how you doing? I was
like, I'm good. That was me with the gauge the first time I ever met the gauge. I was
just like, and it was funny enough as I was competing on a show when I had first met him
in person. So like I had been wrestling and he had been watching, but I didn't know that
he was watching. So then after the match was over and I see him and he's just hanging out
there, I'm just like away from him at an angle. And I was like, gosh, I don't want to talk
to him or something. And I got all the other boys being like, yeah, you got to go talk
to him because like that's the only dude I ever talked about like throughout the beginning
of my career. And then I didn't realize he had been watching my match. I just walked
up to him. I was like, Hey, Nick, my name is my shoot names, Nick. So I'm like, haha,
like, and I was just like, it's such a buffoon about it. Like a bludgering idiot. And he
just looks at me and he's just like, there was a good fucking match. I was like, full
of like 1000% horsepower going into that conversation. So putting the gate story. So I went to New
Jersey with a MSP and Drifter and Maverick. And we walk into the venue and MSP is on,
I think third or fourth, something like that. And I don't, I don't, I don't remember my
work that showing it. Anyway, so we walk in and we all look to the left and all of a sudden
sitting at a table, just kind of just chilling out. There's Nick Gage.
I love Nick Gage. He's like, he's one of the guys like the first time I met him, I'm like,
he just got out of jail too. Yeah. Like it was like his first show out of jail and everything.
And I'm like walking up to him like, Hey man, like, how you doing? Like I'm, my name is
Tom Tom. Like he's like, yeah, how you doing? Like, like nicest guy ever. I'm like, all
right, cool. And now it's like, I've seen so many times, it's like, smile, let's go
to bed. Yeah. That first show that I ever met him,
he was just like full of a thousand that same night. We had ended up sitting in the parking
lot for like two and a half, almost three hours just talking shit. This is before he
hit dark side of the ring. So he had literally talked about like just all his whole life
in general, the same way that it had been done on dark side. So when I watched the dark
side, like episode, I was like, Holy shit. I actually had lived this entire story. Like
three years before it actually happened. I'm like, that's wild.
So actually that does bring up the fun question. Is there one person, like if you met now,
you'd like, you've been in, you've been doing this for a hot minute. Like, like any, like
any of the name you'd walk up to and you wouldn't be able to talk to him at this point.
Ooh, I don't know. I don't know if there's anybody like, there's anyone I wouldn't be
able to talk to. Cause I'm using pretty sociable and like, I kind of enjoy, like I enjoy those
interactions. Like I might be awkward towards them because like, I don't know what to say
or do. Like that's for sure. Cause like, I definitely can be a very awkward individual,
especially the first time I meet somebody and like, you got, like, I got a weird sense
of humor and stuff like that. So I'm like, always nervous. Like, I'm going to weird this
guy out because I'm a weird fucking dude.
But I feel more nervous talking to somebody that you were just meeting versus talking
to somebody that you actually, that's a big name that you actually have competed in the
ring with, like with them already having the notoriety that their notability that they
have all at that point. Was it easier to talk to them competing with them or was it harder
easier, harder to talk to somebody that you're just meeting like at a show, like in general?
I don't know. I think it's kind of feeling maybe they're both kind of like equal, I guess.
Like, it's one of the things like I always keep that mentality. Like they're human being
too. They've just seen cooler stuff than I have.
Right.
It's like, that's kind of my mentality. Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,
this is one of my all time favorites for like, like he I grew up being a huge Tommy Dreamer
fan. So like, you know, I originally met him, like doing like I said, like the show that
the FWE show that I went to. And like, I guess I like I was a little nervous then but it
wasn't like hard to talk. But he kind of broke the ice on that one too. Because like, when
I met him that first time, like, I was standing there like literally just standing chilling
waiting and he had like other people with him like he's talking to like some other people
that he knew or whatever. And then original guy, I was sitting next to him. When like
I knew her from like, kind of like the more like indie rest in the indie movie scene because
she's like more of a like an indie star like on some of the like trauma films and stuff
like that. Yeah. So like, but like he got like stop talking to who he's talking to.
He looks at me he goes, I know you from somewhere. I'm like, I know you from somewhere. And I'm
like, well, I like a couple years ago, you gave me a t shirt at a wrestling at a WWE
event in like Portland, Maine. He goes, I remember that. Why do I remember that? You
had a sign. And I went, yeah, it was like a random house show. And I brought signs.
And he's like, I remember that. He's I forget everything. So it's amazing that I remember
that. So like that kind of broke the ice. And I just kind of like chit chat with him
for a while. And then I like I went along my way. And I signed up for the school like
literally that same Tuesday. And I think it was it was like six months later, maybe I'm
doing like a show. And they brought in Tommy because somebody called out somebody bailed
on the show and Tommy shows up. And like he's coming through his thing is hey, how you doing?
How you doing? How you doing? Oh, you became a wrestler. Good for you. Oh, God, Lee Miller's
got a whole horrible ideas up here. Hold on. Smiling fans being the weapon. Okay, now hang
on. Hang on a minute. We don't get up for it. But I love working with smaller dudes just
because like there's so much opportunity to do so many things with this like a significantly
bigger person. It's a smaller person. It's it there's so many different things that you
know, I can do with somebody that's such a, you know, smaller person versus I can make
somebody look just as good no matter what their size is. So like, and especially when
you bring in like the hardcore aspect of it, it just becomes so much fun all around like
the whole the whole time. All right. I it's like because like, I like as I haven't had
a lot of like the deathmatch experience like I said, I did the one with even the Necrobutcher
one that was really all we use was chairs in that one. Right. The worst one I did was
the the madman Pondo one. And that one we didn't really like I didn't know like I wanted
them to take lead because I'd never done it before. So like, I remember like sitting there
at one point and like Aiden Raines like one of my best friends like, like I'm the godfather
to a son and everything else. So it's like, we know each other. We're comfortable with
each other. So we're calling like all these different ideas like oh yeah, what about this?
What about that? What about this? What about that? And then like, Pondo just looks at us
goes, Hey boys, all sounds great. They ain't gonna give a damn about any of it. They don't
want to see you doing spots. They're gonna see wrestling all night. They just want to
see you go out there and beat each other up with stuff. Like, fair enough. Let's do it.
Okay. But like, I have so many fun ideas for like, hardcore wrestling and stuff like that.
Like I did one actually, I put up a clip you might get kicked out of it. We're like Tyler
Arrow, I think his name was he's a wrestler from Canada. And like, I kind of like backrolled
him to the point where like his feet were under the we're in the bottom rope. And I
put his arms around the top rope. So he's kind of like dangling there. And I set a chair
up in front of him. He just kind of looks at me like, the hell's about to happen. And
I ran and I hit the ropes and I grabbed the rope. And as I like did the rebound, I held
the ropes and pulled it. And you just see this human beings to get slingshotted from
the real the rope and just go right to the chair. So like I love innovating wrestling,
like moves and stuff. But when you get to throw toys in there and stuff, I'm like, what
can I do? Let's book it.
He literally just described this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's I'm trying. I'm trying to find
it. I was just yelling at my cat. She was we look over and I have a shelf here with
Legos on it. And she normally doesn't get up there. And all of a sudden I look over
and she's just walking across it. And I'm just like, what the hell are you doing? Bozzy
cat. Yeah, my cat. But yeah. But yes, Lee Miller is correct. That's that that whole
thing sounded like I was calling the fair the street fight. We had a very interesting
six man street. We're like, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. We're going
to do this. We're going to do this. And JP just looks at all of us like we're just hitting
each other's shit. No, I'm like, we're just going to hit each other's shit. Do a couple
spots that are in the that's it. And it turned into way more than that. It turned into 24
minutes and way more than that. Way more than I can hear. I hear Alexander Lee and commentary
almost having a stroke because he's trying to call it all. He was six beers deep. And
by the time we got to the main event, it was absolute blubbering buffoon like out of that
whole match. Oh, him and Doc goes over just oh my God. It was insane. It gets really hard
for something. I was trying to find that video that he was just talking about. I know it's
like it's crazy. So I don't know. Now, the only thing I've ever done hardcore personally
is I mean, the street fight, I guess that's kind of kind of hardcore. But my first time
ever really doing anything in the ring, I wasn't even fully trained at this point. I
was a manager for Alexander Lee and show. It was a heart. It was a Lego death match
with horror. And so at the end at the end of the show at the end of the match, Alexander
Lee wins. I am celebrating on the ropes with them like yay. And Lee rolls out. I don't
notice horror behind me. He grabs me pulls me off the second rope, grabs me, chokeslays
me on the Legos. First, first, first thing I've ever done in a ring in front of a crowd
is get chokeslammed on the Legos. Worst part is I'm like, okay, cool. I'm gonna let the
faces have their moment. So I roll out. As I roll out, cousin Larry grabs me, throws
me back in and goes, take another one. I get chokeslaved again. Then he's like sit there
and sell. And I was like, I'm not selling it. It just actually really hurts. That's
a good, that's a good first time to be honest. Yeah. Yeah. I would've been jealous if that
was at my point. It'd be the first time. Oh my God. Two years before I started doing the
death. Oh, I know my first death match is literally at IWM mid-south. And I'm like,
what am I doing here? Why are they doing these things? Why is there glass everywhere? Why
am I doing this? I love, I love it. The rookies like, so we're training tonight and the kids
ask questions like, Oh, what was your first thing? But what I was like, yeah, Legos. And
I was like, that was your first thing. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. People ask me, it's like
light tubes plugged into light fixtures. Well, for Ian Rotten. I was like, yeah. Oh Lord.
I remember the first time I was ever in like a wrestling ring situation. Actually, now
that I think about it was the second time, but it's a better story. So we did, there
was two big cats for a second. I was just, yeah, my shit was crashed. I thought it was
that. Sorry about that. My shit was crashed. You got multiple personalities too? What's
going on? I was like, did the matrix just break for a moment? Kat, you lost all the
clips at the bottom too. I know it's fine. We'll all get it. We'll get it. We'll get
it. What's the time? Sorry. Sorry about that. So like the first thing we ever did, I remember
like hog was doing like a little student show thing. I show up and red looks at me goes
is are you in this? And I went, I wasn't planning on it. I just came to help with set up and
breakdown. He goes, Oh, well get ready. You're in the battle Royal. Oh, okay. So like Mark
Quinn is a very tiny man compared to me. Somehow. Like I didn't know. I didn't have anything
to wear. He throws me a pair of swim trunks and I put those on and I'm going to wrestle
in the Mark Quinn swim trunks. But before the battle Royal happens, Pinky Sanchez and
Danny DeManto go out and like a little, a little pull apart gimmick. So like we do the
spot. It's like, all right, baby faces, grab Pinky heels, grab Danny. Like, all right,
cool. So we go out there and we do the pull apart and I grabbed Pinky and I start pulling
Pinky back and somebody tricked and the whole pile of us fall into the turnbuckle. And I
remember like I'm down and all I can hear is Pinky going, get up, get up, get up, let
me up, let me up, let me up, let me up. And I'm like, why is he freaking out so much?
And I look up and I can see this look in Danny DeManto's eyes that I have not seen from another
human being before. Like this pure joy that he's about to experience. And he, he like
lived like Andre the Giant style just moves everybody and sprints as fast as he can. And
this is Danny before he lost all the weight. So it's like 400 pound Danny. Oh, and then
all I see is him jump and flip through the air into a pile of human body. And all I can
hear is Pinky under us laughing. And I'm like, dear God. And then all of a sudden that happened.
They pound around and then leave the rest of us to do a battle royal. And now everyone's
going to do a battle royal. And we're like, oh, okay. And now this is.
And you've been murdered by Danny DeManto at peak chubby status. Oh, he is discovered.
Oh, man. Oh my God. Oh, it's a slingshot. Yeah, the slingshot. Oh, I don't know why
this is so tiny, but it's all old videos. Oh, man. Oh boy. Oh, this is the culprit by
the way for the Lego shelf. Oh, well, we've had you for quite a while. You probably got
some things to do and we got to show the finish. It's almost been two hours. So why don't you
plug? Yeah, we still got a whole show to do. We haven't done yet. This always happens with
a guest where we are enjoying our shit. We're just having fun shooting the shit. Plug your
shit. Plug your dates and where we can find you. Sure. Coming up, I got Pro Wrestling
Magic on the 18th and Ridgefield Park, New Jersey, entering the Chad Memorial Battle
Royal, which is one of the only few things I haven't done in Pro Wrestling Magic. I like
to say I'm the only Grand Slam champion. I'm the only person in the company that's ever
won four titles, heavyweight tag team, trios and dark arts. Thank you. That's great. Then
the 25th, I'm in Lancaster, Pennsylvania for Three Legacies Wrestling, which is Ricardo
Rodriguez's promotion. That's going to be a super fun one. Those shows are crazy. Ricardo
puts on a hell of a show. February 1st back in Ridgefield Park, but is for NAW, which
is usually a Massachusetts show. Richard Blake, I think, runs those ones. I think that's it.
I haven't heard of that one. Usually they run out of Massachusetts. I did one of their
shows a little while back. I got a story I can tell you about that one later. That I'm
doing a multi, three on three. It's me and Elijah Eden, which is one of my tag team partners
from a little group I have called Project Mayhem. We're facing the Rapture. That should
be chaotic.
Who's the Rapture?
The members have changed a little bit. Last time I knew it was, crap, I can't remember
his name now. I think it's Adonis something.
Okay.
From CBW.
There's a group, Kat, Levi, and I face in their biblical gospel guys. What are they
called, Kat?
It was Dan Deman, Brother Greatness, and
I know who you're talking about.
I had a guy to look up. I had to get up and look at it.
I just saw the video that Levi posted of Brother Greatness just getting kicked by Cool. It's
like, oh no. It's absolutely terrifying.
I had doubts. Continue, man.
I love Greatness.
One of the next few ones I got off the top of my head. A main stage has pretty much three
legacies and progress and magic. I'm at all of that or so.
We're talking about trying to get you up to main since you're from Portland. You should
try to come to a Gino show.
Gino show.
Yeah.
I love you, Ginos.
I love you.
Oh my God.
It's very scene.
Imagine 200 drunk hipsters jammed into a tiny rock club screaming their brains out.
No filters, no anything you can do to do the best.
This guy was grabbing dicks last show.
Okay. Back story. Back story. I developed some sort of gimmick just at Gino shows where
I at one point I was wrestling in a tag team match and I had heard somebody in the crowd.
It was just one person do the whole grab his dick a twisted thing from like USC or whatever
it was that viral video.
So me and my tag team partner at the time, he looked at me and he goes, yo, grab his
dick and this is to Lee Miller, one of our boys.
And so I was like, what? And he's like, yeah, grab his stick. And we both grabbed his dick
at the same time. We sent them off the ropes and did a double team move and they popped.
That's all we did of it. So then we, the next show I come in and I start hearing little
rumbles from the crowd of them just chanting to his stick, to his stick. And I was like,
okay, there's something here for this. Like maybe this build onto it. So I tease it and
it never happens at show. So they get pissed. Now the next show, all of a sudden I'm building
the entire match and story around it. So I got the shine going in. So the end of the
shot, I'm like, I put up the hand, they already knew the hand gesture because I've been doing
hand gestures through my entrance and all night throughout the night. And I would tease
it, get cut off, get, get him at the heat, all the stuff, all the wrestling and everything.
And eventually get to the end of the match, eventually get the dick to us. The moment
I first ever did it, where it was built up from to the crowd. I have never had such a
reaction from a crowd ever in my career, but he was ear deafening, just grabbing a man's
balls and just, and just looking at the crowd and just doing it like, like dick twist, just
doing one, two, and then three, they would do a hip toss out of the dick twist. And then
I would proceed to give them a pile driver. And I've done that for every single show all
through the entirety of 2024. Here it is. This is from the last one. I did the double
dick twist. You probably can't even hear the audio, but it is absolute ear deafening.
One of the videos there's actually of me actually hitting the finish after the fucking, not
finishing them off, but I mean, but hitting it is, it's crazy. It is crazy. It is just,
it's a fun show. They pop for the most simplest, simplest shit. You can do a shoulder tackle
and take a bump and the entire crowd loses their mind. I did a butterfly suplex and the
crowd was like, holy crap. You can't do a suplex. And I was like, yeah, definitely.
I get out there for those. And they would lose your mind. But then if you do a flippy
shit, they're going to, they're, they're literally just going to explode. They're going to reach
out to cousin Larry. Is he the one running it? Yeah. He knows. Yeah. I used to, I used
to watch him on like NWA shows. Like he used to go to the NWA on fire shows. It was like
wrestling or something. Oh shit. I always used to joke around that like every, every
match needs a good spot in it.
Every other venue show I do is more friends, family friendly. I don't want a kid to go
home and like go up to their dad and be like, grab this dick and twist it. I'm like, no,
I don't want the kids to remember me as that. Oh my God. It is so sweet for everyone else.
Whoever is drunk and shit. Yeah. Definitely hit them up. Yeah. This one spot, this one
match I put up, it's like a account video I put online. We did this one match. Yeah.
I think it had like 25 dick spots in it. Yeah. It's like a, like a seven man scramble or
something like that. And like, like right, right in the beginning of the match, I do
something like I hit a guy in the corner. Somebody charged me. I move. I hit him. Somebody
charged me. I'm over him. So it's like five people in the corner and the last guy just
boomed him. So he falls straight back. And like, as I step out, first guy faced like
flare bump, headbutt to the dick. I looked at him. So I sat down with people down into
this man's junk and then the same guy later on tries to go for like a moon salt. So I
swat him and crotch him, hang him in the tree of woe and I climb up on the middle and I
go 10 punches. Somebody's pulling me down like that. And I go 10 headbutts. And you're
just like landing with man's heart into another man's balls. See, if you do that to Gino's,
they'd use that as a joke. It would be screaming numbers. Oh, yeah. I gotta get out there now.
I was always wondering like what other good companies were out in Maine. Like the only
one I really knew was Limitless because the most well promoted and then was MSP throws
the show too, don't they?
The other show would be Let's.
Yeah, let's but let's is kind of.
Yeah, let's that's the one.
Limitless is the big one. Of course, there's two other pretty good sized companies. There's
M E W and M P W. I know if you go way up in Northamane, there's Crown. There's of course
Larry with N.A.W.A. So there's a few shows floating around. Yeah, about three or four.
And of course you get the random like, hey, we got some money. Let's throw a show. Yeah,
exactly. No, you get taxis and pro wrestling. I was being nice. I was being nice. I'll just
leave it at that. I was being nice. Hey, as long as they pay me when I show up. Right.
Exactly. That's fine. But like they only show up for one show. They think they're going
to run another show. And then they realize, oh, fuck, we didn't make any money. So we're
going to wait till next year. I mean, I made fifty dollars. Exactly. There's your pay all
in five. So I'm like, well, we still got my pay. I've been to many shows where it's you
get you just walking up. It's a one and done already. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You tell you, you
smell it. That's a show. You Pete Corvus ability to be like suplex over the top rope. Oh,
yes. Yeah. That's that show. The ones where I try all sorts of dumb stuff. That's never
going to work. Yeah. Yeah. It's usually what I use those shows for. I'm like, what can
I do here? It's kind of dumb. It's kind of dumb. I don't usually. I've had people bullshit
me and try to tell me that they'll give me my dream match. And I'm just like, for them,
this is from taxis and pro wrestling shows. I'm like, you ain't going to give me my dream
match that I want. Like just because you have all the money in the world. Like for one show.
No, you're going to have like, I ain't going to believe that. And then the versus Nick
Cage. No. Technically, my shortest match ever was against Nick Gage. Oh, I was fake Joe
Gacy and it's all of like eight seconds long. Oh, wow. So like Joe gave me like his vest
and like one of those masks, like the glowing mask he had and like Nick Gage comes out and
he's doing his entrance and I run in from the crowd. I go on them from behind. They
ring the bell. I hit the ropes. He guts me. Pile driver. Choke breaker. One, two, three.
It was like all of like seven seconds, something like that. And then they ring the bell again.
I'm like, I've got that as one of my matches. It's going on my dad. I've always joked like
if we bring in legends, like say we brought in like the Dudley's, right? I don't care
if I just ate a 3D. I would cut that as a match against the Dudley's. Right. Me and
Big Cat used to do a parody ripoff of the Dudley's. We did it for one of your shows.
The maney cats. The maney cats. Yeah. Cat scratch Dudley. J.P.O. Dudley is great. Have
you guys ever seen the subway mania guys? No. So it's like this thing out in New York
they call themselves subway mania. And it's basically just a bunch of dudes that dress
up like WWE wrestlers and they show up on the subway car. It's not like free plan. Like
people are like literally like trying to get to work and they just start showing up in
wrestling outfits and having a match on the subway. And like somebody will walk in with
a door and like two of the guys I know drop off at the Dudley's and just put a fucking
door out in the subway car and start throwing people through the doors. They're like what
in the actual fuck is happening right now? And now they're starting to get bookings like
on actual shows. The Walmart dudes. Yeah the Walmart dudes. Same thing. They got weren't
they on A.W. like one slit. Maybe the Costco guys. No Costco guys a whole different thing.
The Walmart dudes got a spot on either some indie bookings or something. And you saw the
crazy shit that they were doing off of those like scaffolds. No shit. No shit. Yeah. I'm
out here hitting these roads breaking my damn back. All I gotta do is Spanish fly somebody
through a table at Walmart to get booked. Apparently. Apparently. Scaffold. They're doing those
books on the floor. That's why people were like watching those and like ooh like I don't
know how they could do that. Right. Exactly. Oh shit. Well thank you again Smiley for coming
on. This was awesome. We definitely got to do this again sometime. Yeah. Anytime. Hopefully
we'll see you at a next Geno's show. I hope so. Yeah. Please send me that contact info
so I can make sure. Yeah I will. After the show I'll send you it to you. Yep. I was using
it. Lee's probably already talked to him so. Yeah Lee's probably already in chats with
him right now. Smiley. You would definitely you know get the crowd going. Yeah. 100%.
His mask gimmick and your mask. Smiley's mask gimmick are two different gimmicks. Totally
different gimmicks but like still it'd be better to have more masked people. Oh yeah.
Buck I'll bring back Ox if it means a vertical threat. What? I'll bring back Ox. Oh. Fuckin'.
Oh he has it too. Oh my god. Oh there you go. Just for smithing giggles I'll bring back
Ox. I have one of the masks that Mason Exile made for me that was the Penguin Power version.
Oh my god. It was like practice shit and everything. Yeah. I'll bring it. We'll all do masked pro
wrestling. Yeah exactly. Just do a whole match where like the only way to win is to unmask
the other person. That's cool. I'll do that. Oh shit. Well thank you again for coming on.
Check out all his dates. You got Instagram and any of those ones that they can follow
you on. Oh yeah sorry. Instagram, Twitter both and I think TikTok even though I'm terrible
posting on there. I think it's all the same. It's on Smiley underscore Lucha. You can find
me on Facebook. It's under Ernest Price. I have a pro wrestling tee store if you'd like
to buy some t-shirts. I got a little six year old and diapers are expensive. Boy don't want
to learn how to use a damn potty. Oh boy. He turns six tomorrow. Just a couple hours.
Oh happy birthday. Yeah. I'm gonna take him to the trampoline park. There you go. You're
gonna show some moves. Let me show you how to take this super flex. Oh shit. He'll be
yelling in the background. I'm surprised Yellow ain't heard him yet. No I hear him. You can't
see him. We turned about at this point. Exactly. I can hear him yelling at Mickey Mouse now.
Well thank you again Smiley so much. You have yourself a good night. We'll hopefully we'll
see you soon. Yeah guys. Thank you guys. See you later buddy. See you bud. That was cute.
I love Smiley. Yeah. I fucking love Smiley. And now we get to do an entire whole fucking
show. Oh yeah. Not fucking dammit. So this is the first dishes bye. I've only been awake
since 1 30 a.m. guys. Yeah. I've been thinking about changing the setup too of per sessions.
Maybe doing a just interview and then doing a separate news show type. That might be an
idea. Yeah. Good idea. Larry's waiting for the message. Dammit he left before I finished
typing. Oh well. Okay. Well there we go. Oh yeah. There you go. Lee's already. Yeah. Lee's
already on it. Lee's on a mission. In the live world update of wrestling right now Cody
Rose and Kevin Owens are currently beating the absolute piss out of each other through
the entire arena right now. And you said smackdowns. We're going to get flagged. So I mean SD and
we're still flagged. Oh I mean Mac Mac sound tired. Well let's get into it. Let's get videos
and the thing. Yeah. Because it's broken. Literally my everything just like shut down.
Oh it was like I was like what the fuck just happened. And apparently there was two big
cats so I don't know what the hell was going on. I downloaded everything. It was a break
in the matrix. It was great. It's OK. I'll put them back up while we're doing it. It'll
be all good. So we'll just get in the first one. I wanted to talk about this because this
is the news that's been going around going around late for the past few days is Mac I
black according to Dave Meltzer. He's going to be stepping away from a W. What's that
face for. Oh I mean like it's just it's everything's all over the place with that. It's a step
in a way he's taking any bookings he's doing this doing that. And that's like what is he
really doing. Yeah. Yeah. Well here's the thing as it's stated right now he is still
contracted 2027. Sorry. Hold on. Hold on. This is just hilarious. I read it too. One on one
with dead man. You're going to go one on one with the other. Yeah. Oh fuck. So he's still
contracted until 2027. So 27. That's 27. So we can take any bookings but we're going to
be sitting here for three more years. So I know all I have to do is threaten Tony Khan
make it feel like danger of his life and we'll just fire him. Maybe if he just goes around
and starts swinging on people you know. That's probably what he has to do. Like that's why
I'm trying to get out of his contract. It's a punk. I'm right. No I said on Dr. I just
said fuck this. I'm just fired. No I'm driving punched. Oh that's right. He's like he's like
you will you fire me if I do this. He goes yes. OK. OK. Meanwhile if I if I in a place
I work so much and I'm like will you fire me if I do this thing and they're like yes
I'm going to do the thing. Yeah right. Exactly. And there wasn't like like punk was it was
like August that he was gone and then it was November like that same year. Yeah. Look I
love the W. Oh my gosh. Somebody posted that on on on Instagram is like this this aged
really well. And if he had to talk his shit to MJF about the other place he goes you can
go there and then when you fucking leave there I'll be standing near right here wait for
you to come back. We'll. We'll. We'll. We'll. He says you go to the place and then wait
and I'll come over there talk to you at that other place and we'll both make a shit ton
of money there. Yeah exactly. A big cat broke again. Bye. I didn't break them. What did
he say. I didn't even catch. I heard. I said I didn't break. Hold on. I was tired of wearing
pants. I broke it. No one needs to know that cat. No one really. Why are you taking my
camera off. No one needs to know you don't have pants on now. I know that big cats aren't
wearing pants right now. Well at least I'm wearing undies. OK. Anyways so what we're
going to do is we're going to go to the chest up folks. Yeah exactly. According to Dave I'm
going to take this off. I'm sweating like crazy. I'm sweating because it's 900 degrees
in my room apparently. I'm taking the shirt off. No just kidding. According to FIFO select
sources with AEW believe black will either already finish or is in process of wrapping
up his time in the company. It comes despite AEW CEO Tony Khan previously stating that
the black is under contract until 2027. So that's the belief of maybe they're just going
to keep them under contract saying you can't go anywhere but hey you can go do you whatever
go go out and do it. OK. OK. My thing is this. OK. This is one of those different minutes
WB and a WB. Everyone did this. You have a guy in under contract. You're paying this
dude. I just locked up apparently. You did. I was like wait a minute. You're paying this
dude right. The dude can go sit at home and collect. It's knowing Tony it's a six figure
contract. Oh yeah. OK. Cool. Or what you do is you could fire him get rid of him go. I
don't care what you go do. Just get off my get off my payroll. And then you have that
six figures free to hire someone else that might want to be at your company. Well here's
that makes sense to anyone else. Here's the problem because they know for a fact that
the other place is probably going to be better. Yes. That's why they that's why they do it
like every including WB. It's like I'm going to leave this place that I know for a fact
if I go somewhere else I'm probably be treated better. I'm probably going to get what I want
because of I was at this previous place and then I'll probably be making some good money.
It happens a lot with other wrestlers with the wrestlers. The only issue is it doesn't
happen with everybody as we can see with Mercedes Mouais and Breaker J. There even though they're
really great talent may be nobody gives a shit. Cody Rhodes was the same thing. No.
They wrote it over. I've noticed that. So once you knock your ring rust off in her matches
starting to get better the crowd kind of went OK we hate this character but we like your
matches so we're going to give you a little bit of a chance here. Right. Her match with
Chris Sattlander was great. Oh yeah. So yeah. Her matches are getting like back to like
Sasha Banks matches. She just needed to knock that ring rust off. And also I'm like OK these
are sort of look more like the girl I remember working here. I hate that. I hate the CEO
character. I think it's stupid. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Right. Just like if Malachi didn't
want to like you know follow those rules or anything. Imagine like they could just put
them in her mask put them on the big show on the competition but they fully mask him
so you can't tell who it is. This is yeah. So this is our new mask wrestler Jim Bob Cooter.
Yeah. Well didn't they say that with Ricochet with the EW that got that mask wrestler that
came in there was that. Yeah. Everybody believed that was Ricochet. Yeah. There was a lot of
there was I remember some sort of masking when people were like no when they were doing
the the I don't know if it was with MJF or was it the like the whole like Satan demon
things that they were doing with different masks. Oh the devil. Yeah the devil thing.
And like people were like thinking oh it's somebody else but it's somebody from the competition
like you know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. That sort of thing. And that didn't end up actually
being that but still like they would go to those lengths. So I said this on in the private
chat and I still say this now I'll say this live on the podcast. I want Malachi Black
versus Alexander Lee. I guess it's so fucking bad. I hear Ben yelling like Malachi Black
sold my shit. That's the main reason why I want because I could just see I can just I'm
just pictured because I have so much driving time that I'm doing that I'm just daydreaming
when I'm not supposed to be thinking just thinking like Malachi does something and does
a sit and then fucking Lee does something and does the same thing. It's like fuck you.
I do a better bit. The worst ending possible. See Alexander Lee going off the ropes going
to the Luigi headbutt and get kicked in the face gets house. Oh dude. All the way roundhouse
while he's in the air. So is he would fucking he would call that shit like yeah. And eat
it. He would destroy it. Oh my gosh. Book it. Book it. Book it. Book it. Like a five
star gourmet meal. Oh you are. Bite by bite. I'm taking this shit. Oh my God. And that
would that would be such an amazing finish. I'm like oh gross. You might not know that
he's that he's doing the shit like I kind of want to talk to talk to Randy about that
Mike Mike. There's rumors that he's doing in the shit. Can we get this match please.
Like he is like I'll even donate some money if that means that we could give this match
like just that like those are just some of the dream matches. I wish I could see that
and like another one fucking FTR versus MSP. I bring that up again. Oh my God. That would
be a fucking banger match. I want to fight FTR. You think we could see we could hold
up against FTR? No absolutely not. Like God damn it would be fun. Oh my gosh it would
be fun. I think we would be OK. Here's my thing. Here's my thing. Like I. They would
help us. They would. Absolutely. It's cash and cash and dash. Yeah. We help us through
the match. Here's my thing. I if I'm nervous in a match. Oh 100 percent. That's not what
I'm going to. I'm not going to remember a damn thing in the back. Yeah 100 percent. If I'm
going to do a match having fun Spencer and I at at skips we call like four things and
we had a fun match. It was 15 minutes long. We were like this is great. Larry's like that
was awesome. Thanks for the great event. We're like we didn't do shit. But I wasn't nervous
because I've worked Spencer a dozen times. You know it's Spencer. We're good friends
and stuff. But the minute I got like I like Dax and Dax and cash are called stuff that
me I'd be like I thought going to remember any of this. I'm not I'm not supposed to be
here. I don't know why we call it. It's a rough way. It's a rough way. I'm in danger.
For Tony like everyone Russell Tony at one point in their career. I like when you're
I have not yet. You're in and it's like you. I had just won my first title ever in my career
the night before. And when I realized that I was wrestling Tony and he looks at me and
he goes is that a tribute to both you have their kid. No I guess Tony I just won this
yesterday and he for the same company we're in. He was just like oh well there's no reason
for me to win clean. I was like it was like what do you mean Tony. And it's like you're
not putting me over. I'm like that's not happening. I was like you're in. He's like no no no you
can lose my disqualification. So like we call the match but like I went out there and I
was so fucking nervous and everything went smoothly up until he called for the gut punch
and I didn't hear him and he calls for the gut punch. He whips me off the ropes and I
see the hand coming down this way for the gut punch. But here I am thinking that I'm
ducking a clothesline so I just duck down as the impending doom punch coming into my
gut hits me in the noggin and I somehow hit the ropes and I pulled the Dean Ambrose spot
in between the ropes by accident and I almost fall out through the middle rope onto the
floor completely. And then somehow I recovered from it and I just sold back in onto my belly
and that was the only thing I fucked up in the entire match was just that and he thought
it was the most comical shit ever. He was like you fell around like a little dummy.
It's like the day that we bumped off his punches and I just hear him going they're bumping
up my punches Larry. They're bumping up my punches Larry. And the best part is I took
the punch I rolled out to the floor and there's Dennis. I think I've told the story of the
podcast before. There's Dennis just sitting up there and Dennis looks down at me he's
like you're right. I'm like he's so strong. I get the entire front row cracking up and
I was like perfect. Yeah perfect. Speaking of Tony Atlas and shit like that. Limitless
is we talked about this a little bit ago. Limitless is running on Sunday. We got Matt
Cordona. Matt Cardona. Cardona. It's so weird it's Sunday. I'm okay with this. I'm okay
with this. Yeah I'm okay with this. It's not like 5pm. I'm not complaining. Yeah right.
10 minute drive down the house. Okay. Yeah. Okay first of all I want to say who fucked
this up there JP. Bringing pro wrestling to Yarmouth Limitless Rumble to be held on the
18th. Brother that ain't my station. I can still blame you. That's a Portland station.
So this is not Bangor brother. So this is talking about the 18th which is next week
as well. So Randy Carver Jr. as well as Anthony Green sat down and had a one on one interview
for the Limitless Wrestling. Yeah we can't cover stuff that's down there. They're not
going to copyright strike this will they? No. Okay. Two locals. In Maine after a record
year in 2024 Limitless Wrestling is now looking ahead to 2025. You can hear with us now is
the owner of Limitless Wrestling Randy Carver Jr. and former champion Anthony Green. Thanks
for coming on. Thanks for having us guys. Appreciate it. Former champion once a champion
always a friend. I'm always terrified of doing this shit because I'm afraid to stay in the
pocket. There's something on the station. And this has been around for almost 10 years.
Randy sounds better than everyone else. September marks 10 years which is pretty crazy because
it all got started you know Central Maine in the back of a pizza hall and we didn't
really know you know we're doing it once trying to make it work and going to see where we
could go from there but we've had incredible support 2017 we kind of moved the operation
down to Southern Maine and now monthly in the greater Portland area we're able to do
this and had our biggest year yet in 2024 we had over 1200 people at the Coliseum in
Lewiston for the biggest event we've had yet so I think we got big things in store including
a return right here to Portland very soon but I'm not going to spill the beans just
yet but of course January 18th coming up we kick off the year 2025 in Yarmouth we do monthly
events there and it's been a blast. So fun. So Anthony how long have you actually been
wrestling for? Tell us more about your championship titles. Oh man. We don't have to watch any
minutes of this but yeah you get to just. Yeah I didn't realize it's that long. Yeah
they're just discussing. It's detailed but also Anthony Green announced his match in
that interview too. Yeah. So that was pretty cool. Yeah so yeah this back to back January
18th is Yarmouth the 12th is going to be here in Herman. We're all looking forward to that
because like I said Matt's going to be there. Yeah and it's just going to be a banger. Like
I thought like a bunch of like they're doing like because they did the the rumble the last
show so I thought they were going to do everything here but apparently they're doing that for
the Yarmouth show. Yeah. But this is what we got going on for for Sunday signed we got
Channing Thomas versus Seabass Finn which is going to be fucking great. Oh yeah. You
better bring that big net and then cast a you know cast a line there. Right. Exactly.
Brad Baylor. There you go. Thank you. Is going to be there. Looks like it. We got Matt Cordona
versus Desmond Cold. That's going to be fucking banger of a man. Banger. Banger. We got Aaron.
Evil gay. Evil gay. He's going to be there. It looks like Gabby. That goes to be a banger.
That guy's going to be a monster. Like. And then that's J. Haru versus Alexander Lee.
That's going to be hilarious. That's Brandon. The rest of his Alex and Lee is going to knock
the turtleneck off that little bit. It'll be not going to be great. It's going to be
good. So look forward to seeing that. Definitely. You guys should definitely check them out.
And this Sunday in Herman and then of course in the Army. Event center. January 18th. Yep.
OK. So speaking of events main events Netflix. Raw WWE on Netflix. They finally did their
show for Raw and it was a massive show. I think if I looked at it correctly the live
was pulling in four million views. Four point six I believe. We're talking Netflix. Yes
four point six. Four point six million views. That's pretty damn good for you know the first
show. First five years I think. Yeah. That they broke like four mil. Yeah. It's been
between like one and two million for years. I am. I'm going to date myself right here
but I remember back when wrestling got really hot in the late 90s. I remember nights of
being eight eight mil a show. Not between the two shows. Sweet Mill for Raw and Eight
Mil for Nitro. Oh yeah. Yeah. 100 percent. Because it was it was the number one thing
talked about. Yeah. And here's the thing with Nitro is the cool thing is they don't always
replay Nitro after Raw. So and they had it staggered. So it was like Nitro started at
eight and went till ten where Raw started at nine and went till eleven. Right. So when
I was using to watch the first hour of Nitro clip over to Raw watch watch Raw and flip back
over to Nitro and watch the replay of the second hour. They'd also do in fucking Nitro
they were because Raw was pre taped. Yeah. Ruin the fucking show for they did that once.
So that's you know what it was. Oh show. Oh. Well then once you guys hear about Bischoff
doing this not too long ago. What's that? It was he literally was on another show. I
think he was on MLW actually and he was like yeah if you're going to tune into the other
show play tonight which is TNA he's like spoiler the Hardys win the tag titles. He's like oh
shit I did it again. He was being funny because he's like you know they actually won the tag
title. They actually won they actually won the tag title. But to the match he actually
he actually joked about had already happened. So he didn't spoil anything. So literally
the fans were like yeah we already know we just saw it. That's fucking funny. Oh that's
so funny. That's that people who didn't know got so pissed. Yeah. Oh yeah. We know. So
she was on MLW. Yeah. Waiting to watch the show and then like fuck you. I actually have
to be like very careful if I like like WBP reviews especially I don't get a chance to
like watch them live all the time. I try to a lot of times like you know. Well make sure
that you can watch them no matter if they're on. Yeah. Well I mean I'm working Ring Wars
with the Royal Rumble. But yeah but I want to you know I want to like rumble. Not spoil
them. My fat ass will be right here. Oh oh dude. Dude you laugh. I'm coming over to your
house in gear still. You can. Yeah. I might do. I might fucking do. I'll work the match
and we'll just come over to your place after. I'm five minutes up the road from the Ring
Wars venue. Come watch the rumble. I might. I might. I'm actually like Eric Dees is route.
Yeah. Thank you. Hey. Take the money. JP's got the rumble on. JP you got the ciders in
the fridge. Yeah. I'll be ready to go. I'll be on lock. You ready to go. So we start off
Triple H talking about this is a new era. You know this is great. It's a new day. It's a
new day basically. This is going to build. The Rock came out. He did his promo apparently
now. Fucking him and we were talking about this before. I'm a Cody your best friend now.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Because I don't think Rock likes getting booed. That's what I think. Oh yeah. I don't think
you're going there. We're going there. OK. Good. Why would he portray such a hero of
a character just like being booed and then did that whole sit for because I think it
was a fuck you like thing. It was straight up. It was it was you guys like I'm going
to be a heel. So that way I can tell you how I actually feel. Yeah. You guys are fucking
cry babies because now I can't fucking win the title like I was going to and I had a
wrestling. It was over. He was just like I ever good. Yeah. Fucking the most dislike
video in WWE history was the rock announcing against Roman and Tony stepping down. Yeah.
They were pissed. They were pissed. I was like you know boys know this this fucking
socks we don't want to see the rock to see. Speaking of speaking of people getting booed
if you guys didn't see Hulk Hogan got I didn't see the whole thing booed out the fucking
building. I know I've heard I haven't watched it yet. So here's the funny thing right. A
lot of people are like oh it's because it's political affiliation. No. No it wasn't because
Undertaker very much is the same way as Hogan for political on the political side. It's
because he's a racist. Yeah. Has nothing to do with politics. Yeah. Yeah. Well I'd like
I don't know if he is it. He's said some racist shit. I don't know. No he said some real racist
shit. He said some real racist shit. Yeah. He's just an asshole. That's what I just did.
But yeah. I tell you something brother. The crowd was still love you brother. No they
don't do. Oh here's the crowd for you. What's your heart. To be honest like. Yeah brother
brother. Oh shit. Well let me tell you something brother. Oh. You know something maniacs. I've
been in this business for over 40 years and the greatest part the greatest part of my
life. He's stumbling. He doesn't just stumble. He doesn't know his problem. See the thing
is when he was Hollywood Hogan and he was a heel like you love this reaction. That's
what he's working on. But he's out there in the red and yellow. He's supposed to promote
a business of company too. Yeah. Beer. He's like here's my beer brother. Here's my Bud
Light rip off. Because I've heard of people who've tried it and they said it's Bud Light
basically. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. I have a new taxi. This car is estoued to have the
Canada. Yeah the
as
if
And it's amazing just to hear the booze cuz like here's the thing guys like we were all hulk maniacs at one point
I hate you know
You can hate the man now because we were all grown be adults and we're all kind of like hey
It's gonna be shit back in the day man. Say your prayers train eat your vitamins. We all knew that we all lived by that
but now it's kind of like
Yeah
Heads up that one of the stars of last night's show is actually doing a live press conference
Let's uh, let's head over that right now. I believe Hulk Hogan is
Conference to address everything that happened last night
Welcome to this press conference that I've called the day after
Arguably the greatest day of my professional career
last night
Tens and tens and tens and tens and tens of millions of people watch the Hulkster break the house down
on WWE raw
To usher in the Netflix era in the into it. No, you have to play the whole thing
It's I'm playing it
With that I'd like to open it up to a couple questions. That's good. Hi, mr.
Hulkster, this is Peter pens from the mark times. Yeah, I can tell you look like a bark
Thank you. I appreciate that. I guess booing was actually trending on X last night
I wasn't sure if you had any comments about the almost mustaches opening
Stage sir, thank you
Well, yeah, if you think those were booze, I can tell you're a fucking bark. Okay. I've been doing this a long time
Now I will admit I heard a couple boo smattered across the crowd and I'll be honest I had no idea
The people in LA hated Jimmy Hart the way they did. They took one look at him
Stupid sunglasses and the way he was half-assed waving that flag around and I should have expected it
those liberal
They were booing Jimmy Hart everybody loves the Hulkster dude
We don't just reminds me of we do it here
Mr. Hulkster, what's that?
It just reminds me of the okay a lot of Simpsons references tonight because that's who I am
but this really reminds me of the Simpsons episode where mr. Burns makes his life story and it's like a bunch of trollop and
The crowd of the movie theater starts booing him and he's like Smith is are they beating me?
No, sir. They're saying words words
This shit is so much better. That's absolutely comical
South African Times
Oh my god, oh it's wild
Hulkster bill
Bazzarath top-term buckle
Do you think anyone's booing last night
Has ever tried a real American beer and after they try a real American beer would ever boo again
Listen, I don't want someone trying a real American beer. Who's gonna boo. I just mentioned it
I'll mention it again. There's goddamn liberals out there. They can have their bud light. Those aren't real Americans. Those aren't my
real Americans, dude
The only Americans I want drinking real American beer are real Americans
The Bible belt the Midwest anywhere where people don't bow down to Joe Biden
Mr. Hoekster Dexter Bennett from the Daily Gimmick
While listening to trying to listen to you through the booze
I heard you talk about a 40 year running out along a bit of John Cena been on his last run any thoughts on you?
Maybe going on last one and uh, who would you like to go up against if you were to do that?
Sure, I got a couple thoughts
The Hulkster would love to run through just a who's who of the WWE roster
Give me Kofi Kingston. Give me Xavier Woods
Hell give me trick Williams. You can bring his ass up from every corner
Hell give me trick Williams. You can bring his ass up from NXT
Maybe some of the old guys dude godfather. See ya. Wait, there seems to be a uh, I'm not done yet
Farouk I'll get in the ring with his ass, too
I'm odd plumber
Any one of you guys
Can take a seat is that the end that's the end of your list? Oh, I could go on and on brother
But i'm gonna end it
at mania
with the high chief
I want you duane
In vegas at mania two nights. Hell i'll beat your ass back to back. It'll be the biggest wrestlemania ever dude
Dude, does that answer your questions from the mark times or wherever the fuck you write for?
Thank you as sean michaels comes out the super kicks him. He's like, you remember those matches yomi
I'm gonna go drink some real american beer if you're one of those jackasses who was booing jimmy hart last night
Fuck you. You don't deserve real american beer. I'm gonna go find some real americans who love that genuine
refreshing pilsner dude
All right, I was waiting for a january 6 joke
Uh, I know that's
You didn't touch yeah
God
Oh
I saw that dude that had been put that was like the first thing that they had done on the show
The day after so like they do their show at like 11 o'clock or like noon or whatever
So it had literally been just over 12 hours after that shit happened and pat had already had that skit planned out
He was just like oh, but like the fact that they were able to get away with it was hilarious
Hilarious, so hawk hogan's alleged reaction to being booed on ww raw
uh, so the whole the wwe hall of fame of hawk hogan was uh,
premiere episode of raw on netflix on the past monday
The legend showed up with jimmy hart for a brief promo about the real mac and bier right before cmpunk versus south ralph
Hulk sir is one of the industry's biggest stars and always receives fans
Uh blah blah blah blah blah blah. Unfortunately blue
Reaction in it. I don't want to hear his reaction
What did he say?
Uh
You literally say like in the header
I guess I get a pre-reef my fucking uh news things because it says it was saying what was the
Alleged reaction is and I don't see it. I don't even see it
Oh right here the uh reaction did not shock the hall of famer
As he allegedly thought it was going to be a 50 50 heading into the liberal city
Of la from here on there might be it's not because of your political shit. It's because you're an asshole
Yeah, exactly because undertaker by jp
And what happened jp, I don't know
So like I said undertaker comes out at the end of the night ria rippley is holding up the title
The crowd's hot for ria and all of a sudden and not only come up to like come out
He comes up to a kid rock song right?
You know, he came out to the american badass which honestly is still a pretty cool song like whatever and like the crowd's like
It's the taker they pop because they like undertaker because undertaker first of all takers protected his character for so long
Now that he's retired. He's kind of just telling stories like road stories stuff. It's great, but he's not he's not out there
Like I don't want my daughter date. No, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that
Okay, maybe maybe whole coke in his race
A little bit dude. We were joking when I said that
Well, I've heard some sneakers here and there was like, I don't know and then I remember that you saying that that
Oh shit, that's why I say he's racist. All right
That's right about said that like the bubble loves love loves much stuff where he banged bubba's wife or whatever
You know that like that stuff that stuff's like eh, you know, but no him dropping the the hard end
You know and like talking about his daughter like not dating. Uh, you know
Yeah
Maybe he's a little
There's a song from avenue q everybody's a little bit racist. Well, go is about six steps above that. Yeah, exactly
Exactly. So we talked about the lot racist brother
We talked about the last show that uh
They're rumors of possibility of the uh, who's sena going to be wrestling and he kind of um for wrestlemania any kind of uh
addresses that
Hey, there's a new headline from a new expert
On the year ahead. Who am I gonna face at wrestlemania?
Who am I gonna face in my last match in december? They're throwing out all kinds of names like drew mcintyre. I'll be cool
CM punk
That'd be cool. That'd be really cool. Logan paul
Fuck that shit
Wither that'd be cool cody rose
And a whole lot of people are asking when on this farewell tour
Does john cena become the history making record-breaking 17 time world champion?
You have to win the royal rumble
Uh, I don't know why the volume is shit
That was weird. Oh, yeah, it went down for some reason
Okay, well crazy idea
But maybe I can win the royal rumble
So john cena announced himself in the royal rumble now
I gotta play this because this was kind of funny
Uh, they did a press conference and um
Somebody asked john a question and he he had to he had to throw this out here
It's great to see you here
Come on, I mean see me
It's too easy at this point, please at this point
So, um, so
I'm gonna do this one. This is uh, this is pretty funny
So james though comes out with travis scott
now
I don't know if it's because travis lives in this
Environment where this is okay and like you see it all the time. You see them like music goes everybody smoking joint
You know shooting the shit having fun
He has a joint
Going down the aisle with jay uso lit up and smoking it i'm pretty sure they cut it
But I could have sworn in the live he offers it to jay and he does
I've heard about it. Yeah. Yeah, and jay's like no, no, no
He's like I gotta go wrestle dude, so here we go
I was so worried about what you may be inhaling on your way to compete for
Hey
As it relates to travis scott i'd like to personally thank jay uso for just saying no
on the entrance
That could have uh gone very different and i'm thankful that it didn't um
Triple h saying that we were gonna have uh, jeff party victory road 2011
Could you imagine be like congratulations? No what triple h is saying right now is I don't have hr up my ass
Yes
Like hr is not crawling up my ass going what the fuck paul and he's like
I I he's fired. I don't know. What do you have for me? Congratulations on the netflix. It was a hit
Uh, you're suspended for 90 days for smoking on television. Yeah, uh, I mean it's netflix
So you can kind of get away with a little more stuff, but it's still like
You can remember kids are watching this man. It's so wrestling. I'm just thinking more of the lawsuit
I was thinking more of a lawsuit for him even smoking it in the venue. Yeah
Forget the policy with the yeah, wwe he's smoking indoors
indoors in
walking by children
Like watching this and like way. Yeah, it's like this isn't a travis scott concert. This is literally
Yeah, yes, you're leviac. Please uh come see us right away. Yeah
Someone get him away from j
Get the j away. Tell him to put out the joint tell him to put out the joint tell him to put out the joint
Tell him to bring it back here. The worst part is is there was no one around to be able to tell anyone anything
Yeah, because they're in the aisles. There's not like a referee or a camera guy next to them
No, they're literally up in the rafters coming down the entrance ramp. You would have never known
Right, right exactly
Uh, so cmpunk versus seth rollins, uh, we had ria ripley early in the night, uh ria, uh
Won the belt
Uh, I think they're saying that there is now going to be a casket match
For those two. Yeah, I think that's yeah, I think that's going going around. I thought I thought it was done after she dropped
No, I think
Unless it's unless it's fake, which it could be a possibility, but I was seeing
uh graphics of a casket match from uh, then uh ria versus liv
Could be wrong. I read earlier today either today or yesterday that um, alexa bliss and becky lynch have become
Uh back on the active
Sign charlotte flair charlotte flair. Yeah, no one cares. I'm all
Yeah
I'm not a fan of charlotte either. I'm not sorry. I just sat here once back then never saw a pop-up once
So we're we're we're good there so far
Uh, oh, but speaking of people coming back though. Do you see that there are advertising the shit out of pentagon?
Bro, oh, so obviously was supposed to happen on netflix that match got cut
But you do realize if the way the match got cut if you go research it like there was so much
shit that
Ww was getting because they're like, oh the only way that they can make penta
Relevant is only by putting in with the lwo
And they think that just the only way that any good store can get over is if they're only paired with the lwo
Which obviously with penta that's not the case
You can put penta with any combination of any super right and he'll put out a five-star match same thing, right?
Yeah, they change that so quickly and no one knew that it changed because if you're in the u.s
Watching it on netflix. You get the commercials anyone outside of the u.s. Doesn't get the commercials
That's how they got all the promos that were happening in between the commercials
So you had xavier and and uh kofi
Saying oh, we're not gonna rustle tonight. No one deserves to see us. So that's when everyone realized wait, we're not getting penta
Because that's what everyone was assuming was gonna happen with ray and penta
See what had actually happened why penta didn't debut is because rock and sena wouldn't shut the hell up
Really their promos both went exceptionally long and they cut the match
Because like there was only four matches in the card. They somehow did four matches in three hours. How the fuck does that work?
Wow, it's it's it's wrestling
There was only four matches on that three-hour show
Could you imagine?
How pissed the penta would be like this is
Like this is your biggest moment. I'm about to make my debut in wwv for the first time and then all of a sudden
Yeah, we're scrapping it. It's like motherfucker. If you think of it, what other match could they have scrapped? They couldn't they had
Roach
Yeah
They had real
But because they scrapped it
They put together what is definitely going to be a fucking banger
Yeah, and potentially chad gable and fucking penta
That'd be a double shit
That's
Feet families
But but seriously they they could have they could have told rock and sena like yo guys could we keep it at 20 minutes, please?
Are you kidding rocks promo? I I had to skip it like I was like
I was like, okay, I gotta go do my own thing because it's so boring
Yeah
I had the rock. I own this company. You don't I'm stocking it
So we had we had uh
So we had we had uh ria versus live. That was awesome. We had uh roman versus solo
another banger match
um, and then we had of course we had
cmpunk versus
uh, seth rollins, which
Me personally
I thought it was okay. Like I got like I because I texted this group
It's like why the fuck are we just hitting just finisher after finisher now? I like I it's just that just bothers me
When just we're just doing nothing but finishes is like aw has a problem with that and I hate it
So it's like in the middle of the match he was he did like he had like three fucking pedigrees like one on the table
Like fucking like couple in the ring did a stomp and fucking punk kicked out of it
Um, it's just like oh my gosh like
Well, here's the thing with the pedigree
Mentality
Yeah, here's the thing with the pedigree when seth does a pedigree. It's not a finish. It's a transitional move
I just does the pedigree is finish when you do three of them. It should be a fucking finish
Is a finishing cody still hit seven of them to finish them out. I hate that too and I bitch about that too
one crossroads
Why are we hitting three fucking crossroads the only one that should be hit with multiple finishes is brock and fucking goldberg
Because that's what their character is
Uh roman isn't to an extent. Yes, but brock in
in goldberg are or
Uh, their characters are basically monsters that you're trying to fucking put down
Like or bronzen. Yeah
Bronson they've kind of kind of shit with that one. Um, but still
It's it's I hate the fucking multiple finishes. Oh speaking of bronzen. Did you hear about his?
Uh, yeah, he got pulled. That's what was gonna be one of his um
It wasn't a like broken ankle. Apparently he destroyed one of the bones in his ankle. It's gone
Yeah, like it's gonna take months for it to heal up. Yeah, he said no mania. No
Rumble no mania and then at that point. Yeah
He jumped fucking 20 feet. Yeah, he jumped from
Standing on his feet 20 feet off. I don't know why he didn't just take this and landed on his feet
I took the front bump. It'd have been easier. Yeah, I don't know why he didn't while he was coming down just didn't do
Yeah, I I would I would have rather
I would take the knees and the elbows. Yes. Exactly ankles bro, right? Uh, like edge or cope
Sorry, like cope. Yeah
Same fucking thing landed on his feet
And he like smashed his fucking hip
Uh, but we see talk about that. This is one of the things i'll just mention this quick that uh, brah, uh, uh, brah stroman
Uh strong, uh is uh fucking he's out
Because of an illness
Brown's yeah, it's like worse than the flu or something. Yeah, something like that
Does he have that new covid variant going around or whatever the could possibly be flu thing is?
I don't know, but apparently he's lost 36 pounds in a week. So Jesus. Yeah, so he's
He's fucked up right now. Yeah
I'm joking. I'm joking. He's a fever of 102. Yeah, and he's lost 36 pounds in a week. Yeah
Yeah, that's really bad wild. Yeah
Like and then not missing everything like yeah. Yeah
Yeah, it's crazy. Like just to have
I like that hoodie. I like that hoodie too
Just to have that you're missing tv again
Like you've been like like you've been gone and then you finally come back and then you're fucking gone again
Uh, just from some some something stupid
Yeah
But so punk wins the match
Uh, we get a after match interview with punk which for some reason wasn't on the rerun for
Netflix
But here we go
This is uh, you just became the first wwe superstar to ever win a main event match
In the netflix era of monday night raw but based on the way you got out of the ring
And the way you are right now this match clearly took a toll on you
What can you say about about it what it took to win this battle tonight?
46 is just a number and so is number one and that's exactly what I am and that's exactly what I have been saying
Since I got here in 2005. Yeah
Yeah
Maybe I took a 10 year vacation. Yeah
Ain't nobody touching me b i t w best in the world
That's what it means straight edge means i'm better than you i'm coming for all the gold in 25
royal rumble elimination chamber
wrestle mania
netflix
Biggest thing i've ever done in my entire life. This match is for chad gilbert
This match is for chris bay and this match is for me chris bay cool and anybody who ever said that I wasn't
Look at me now
You know punk. I want to follow up because you're clearly passionate right now
You're still feeling the adrenaline adrenaline from this match
You might even need a rep to help you up the ramp here
But you mentioned that 10 year hiatus
I mean there was a time where wwe fans weren't sure they would ever see you make this walk
Up this ramp for the wwe ever again and now here you are in the center
Of one of the biggest maybe the biggest night in wwe history. What is what does this mean to you now considering?
Everything that you have gone through up to this point. What does this mean to me?
Me what's my name?
46 is just a number
One through 30 just numbers royal rumble you're next on the list
Gunther i'm coming for you. Cody i'm coming for you. I'm mr. October. I'm game seven. I am clutch
I am the best in the world
Yeah, you gotta think
This year's rumble is probably going to be the most all-star style
100%
We haven't had an all-star rumble in
Fucking i'm decky
Like ever yeah, like you and and I just saw this I saw this come up and it was the grab they post this on
on sd but uh
The fact that like sena and roman are two entrants that are confirmed then you're gonna have punk then it's like
You're gonna have so many other people that are punk sena
It's insane
Just imagine like you could see taker
You see just like a bunch of other days
Yeah, but just just to you know, just to have a banger of a role
Like when's the last time you've seen it where it's like, holy shit. I haven't seen this guy in forever
Or holy shit. I can't believe they're actually in it. Yeah, right
Like 2020 2020 was great
It was like prize stuff that would happen in 2020
Uh rumble last year, uh, like the women's rumble jordan gray's coming out. I mean that was
I mean that was jordan gray's was to give out the tna titles last year were fucking crazy james coming out with the tna woman's title was awesome, too
Yeah, acknowledging tna for the first time. Yeah, I know that was awesome
Well, that was also after they'd fired micky james and like threw her stuff in a trash bag
That wasn't that long ago either they're they're they're kind of like we kind of fucked micky you want to come back with the tna woman's title
I'm, sorry vince is a piece of shit
Let me uh, let me exactly some of those guys are fucking assholes. Did we fire her?
Yes, can we just throw her shit in a fucking trash bag and just
That was um, what is this name fucking uh
Uh john loren ice. Yeah john lorence was one that did that
Who's also in some legal troubles with like just as like as vince's
Hey, i'll see you motherfuckers shane douglas is somewhere going like I told you fuckers exactly
Exactly, but no, I I I think this year's rumble i'm more excited about the rumble than
Any other wrestling thing that's going on that day?
Yeah
Fuck you
You're just not excited because you didn't win the vote that's why
I'm sitting one person out of that contest too, and i'm not even a backup but you know
To be fair. I heard eric talking about this. He didn't want to fill the space because um
The space seems to be cursed
Because like so his aled prophet spot first and he got hurt then luge then luge jacobs had the spot
He got hurt. So i'm 10 minutes down the road
I'm like, oh my god, just show up to get crippled just show up. Maybe you get booked
Maybe I want to stay home watch rumble
Yeah, I want to stay home watch the rumble and drink leave me the fuck alone
Yeah, why would I yeah, I don't get to do that at the venue. There was a paper be one last spring war
Shout out, but I don't watch that. Yeah, I don't remember
Um, I was at proving ground and derrick simonetti hears this man
I I was watching your show also, but it was the same night as a limitless rumble. So I was like I had a little
Yeah, so like
God go ahead
No, dude, you run the show. No, go ahead finish it
Oh, I was just like I was just like sitting there like i'm i'm like trying to watch the rumble
But i'm watching mike ross on jt dunn also because they were putting on a fucking banger
Oh, I bet and just sitting there going like I want to watch this but I want to watch that I just want to basically
See just hold it up. And so you like doing two things at one. Yeah
The one thing I was really watching to watch the rumble is because I wanted to see if amber was going to come out
So yeah, I was really hoping she was going to come out
I was I was so hoping that she was going to come out and I was hoping someone's gonna beat the crap out of jay roo
Yeah
I just I just wanted to see
Her number 30 and then her fucking music hit and then her come out and beat the ever-loving piss out of aggro. Yep
That's all I want to see and no, uh, it's still still on the back burner, but we're all looking forward to it
When she is ready to come back if she's ever ready to come back, which I hope she is yeah
We are all looking forward to it
Yeah until I take that first forearm to the neck
Oh god, oh god
Let me tell you growing up
Or taking their fucking uh, fucking knee. Oh my gosh now the basaki knee. Yeah, the saki knee
She hit it on me and she and
Fucking did a turn like hit like bounce off of me and fucking did a complete 360 and she goes. Holy shit
That's like the first time that's ever fucking happened to me. I hate you so hard
And I fucking did a whole whole 360 spin out of it. I don't want to relive my dk match was uh, oh
Oh shit, so we got a punk. This is a little bit of punk at the conference
I wanted to just clip this is a donuts part. Yes
Seth just you know rolling over and uh,
Giving up so to speak. I hope he sleeps horribly tonight and he is plagued with
nightmares of
Me driving my knee into his face
What else by the way?
I might have to change my finish because I have such guilt for hitting people with gts is for years and years now
I've never been hit with one and except for tonight and that really that really sucked
I definitely and for those who didn't see that. Oh my god. He did get hit by one. I didn't even fucking look at
hard
Like he like seth legit was like because I fucking hate you you gotta eat this shit
You were like i'm gonna really make you go to sleep fucking connects in the forehead and you just see his head
Just fucking jolt back like he got him fucking good
Oh, no
The rocker definitely oh john jeez
um
Yeah, I would uh, I would welcome both of them with uh with open arms. I saw john passed him in the hallway
He looked a little tired. He looked like he needed to go to sleep. So
I'm sure i'll see him in indianapolis
Uh a little little gts joke right there
I really hope we do get to see at least one more time punk versus cina even if it's a raw
I don't give a shit. I want to see it bro like give me 2011
Battle over summer punk to do it the summer. Oh my gosh. Yeah
Get july do it money in the bank just him and cina money the bank. We're running back 13 years later
Yes, oh, I would I would love that
punk congratulations on a
History making evening here on the first monday night raw i'm not going out with this sausage party of questions
And there wasn't a single female that asked
Let's change that then
Okay. All right. One more question for me. What are you doing with the donuts? Do you want do you want these?
I want a donut. Yeah, yeah special delivery
You do you want a donut come get a donut
Yeah, oh look there's all different kinds. This one's mine. Don't touch this one
This one's mine. Don't touch this one
I'd fight i'd fight for the boss very light
Depending on you made it. Yes
I will say this. I can't do bossa cream from tim hortons. It doesn't taste right. It has to be from dunks
The best I still think like even donut wise
Market basket if you ever had done their donuts from market basket, especially when they're freshly made
I haven't oh my god. It's so fucking good
So I don't remember
I so fucking good
But yeah, that was that was raw that was um, that was that was going on it was great show
Uh besides, you know, the fucking three-hour promos for both of them
So, uh
uh the day after
Uh chris von vil uh, what's his last name?
Chris van vleet. Yep had seth rollins on the podcast and they had a conversation of
like he just covered certain things and
We're gonna get to the one with punk because it's it's really heated punk
um, but he talks about this one
with
Let's start with uh his knee injury
You weren't gonna make it to wrestlemania 40 no, there was really no
um
I just didn't know what shape I was gonna be in by the time we got to wrestlemania. How much pain were you in?
uh at that point the pain wasn't so bad, but um, I had like
So the match with jenner mahal, uh, it would have been in january. I want to say
I had basically torn like really sprained my mcl pretty bad and tore my meniscus
meniscus tear was like a
Older tear that I think I displaced and for you
So I'd basically been wrestling on a torn meniscus for as long as I can remember
But I had a kind of a mechanism to sort it out
um, and whenever I kind of
dislodged it
It put it the meniscus into a different position in my knee
And like I don't need to get into the anatomy of all of it
But basically it was really painful when I would do specific things
So I just had to be smart
So I I took obviously rumble off chamber off, but then I came back in a brace and I did some
Live events. I had wrestled solo. So on monday as well on one of the mondays leading up to wrestlemania as well
Mostly because I just wanted to get a feel for it. I wanted to know what I could and couldn't do and so
um, and I didn't want to wrestle with a brace or wrestlemania because I hate wrestling with a brace and so
I wasn't in a ton of pain only because I had gone through the pain the weeks leading up to it
Kind of like trial runs like I was like, oh
Let me test this out at these live events and let me test it out on tv. Let me see what's going to hurt me
basically like
You know stab stab stab. Okay. Now I know what not to do, you know
Now I know now I know how to work around like a masochist a little bit. Yeah, and then I just had booked the surgery for right
After I was like, let's just you know, I knew what the end game was in mania
I'm like, let's just get through that. I want to help, you know, I think I can be an integral part of this
So let's do that and then i'll go get it fixed and take a little bit of time
But there's a shot at wrestlemania 40 where you kick and you land and it looks like your leg just bends the complete other way
And you don't remember this that's great. Nothing at wrestlemania bothered me
I remember that really good shape that video. Oh my gosh it did it did look like his fucking knee completely snapped
All was so gross
The knee was in really good shape at wrestlemania
Like I said those trial runs leading up to it allowed me to know what I could and couldn't do
So when I got in the ring at wrestlemania, I you know, obviously
I thought I gave it everything I had um, and I hope that was good enough performance wise
But it was also smart that I knew I wasn't going to re-injure the meniscus or do anything and you know consulting with my
Surgeons and doctors and they were like, yeah, I mean the thing's torn. You're not gonna tear it anymore. We'll go in
Clip it out later
Yeah
Craziness crazy. I can't imagine being that much pain me like shit. I got this much
Fans behind me. I need to keep going
Especially with just doing it like right. All right, once this is done then we can take care of it, right? Exactly
exactly, it's kind of the old school methods like
Everybody's fucking hurt, but they're just you know, just trying to make it through until like finally that time off
Just finally that where he can finally take care of it
um, so
Coming on to that we listened to cody talk about his injury on the two bears one pot on one gay podcast
This is sess. Um
Take on the injury that cody rhodes had
First time you saw cody rhodes in the his peck and the bruising there
Uh, I saw it, you know, he refused to do
to not do the live events
Before helen a cell because they told him that he couldn't hurt his peck anymore
Even though he was in like horrific pain
Whenever he moved it in a certain direction. They were like, well, you can't tear it anymore
And he's like well, i've been advertised for these live events
So I should probably be there like in rockford and bloomington, illinois or something like that and everyone was like, uh
You know, maybe just stay home, you know, you can just come to the pay-per-view on sunday. We're probably good
No, no, no, I gotta be there. So he comes to these, uh, you know, maybe bloomington or whatever was the first one
And I remember like let me see this thing and he like pulls it open and this was like two days after it happened
So it hadn't fully gotten
Crazy what you ended up seeing in chicago at that helen a cell
match yet, uh, but like it was it was gnarly and I was like, oh
like you
Yeah, uh, okay. All right, whatever i'm not gonna tell you what to do. You know, I mean I
We just talked earlier about how I
wrestled with a torn meniscus for many many months in a lot of pain
So I get it. I understand it. So as long as uh, you know, you feel safe enough and you feel safe enough that
You're gonna be okay. Uh, we'll get through it
We'll figure it out. That's part of the gig looks gnarly. It was a gnarly gnarly gnarly gnarly
Did it pack give you any limitations in the match? Sure
Yeah, sure
You couldn't you couldn't you know, you had to be very careful with some things you did and like he couldn't
It wasn't like he was gonna lift me up like he couldn't do anything like that, you know, so, you know
it takes away he can fall down as long as he took care of himself and
um, you know
Look, that's part of the art. You know that
Almost every match we go into somebody's got something tweaked. You know what I mean?
So it's not like that's a new thing
Obviously when it's that visible and it's something that's going to require surgery
That's going to keep you out six months or longer. Um, it's certainly more striking
But I mean look you wrestle, you know, we just did this christmas loop and I wrestled four days in a row and
You know one of those days somebody's gonna have a tweaked ankle or you know, my neck's not feeling great
Let's avoid this. So there's plenty of times where that's happened in my career
It's not a new thing to have to work around those types of things
But it's very jarring when it's that that that that that that
Jarring when it's that that visual and that much pain, but it certainly adjusted what we had to do in my opinion
uh, you know took that match from
You know, maybe good or memorable to you know iconic a moment in time
But what a credit to both of you that with all those limitations you still put on one of the best matches of the year
Yeah, I mean, you know professionals that's what you do and we had an amazing story leading up to it
um, I I do think that that visual that jarring visual certainly helps it ups the
the the danger, you know, you've already you're already in this the cell which is
Scary and that is ominous and then you've got this injury
And people see it for the first time
so, you know the the kind of goal is to suck people in to understanding the story and
and feeling and sympathizing with our good guy with our hero and we
you know
We had that in in folds and so we were able to just tell a story around that and kind of made it
Some ways a little easier you had to get a little more creative
But I mean we had this extra thing that you don't normally get this thing. That's completely real people can see it
They can feel it. Um, and then they appreciate what our hero is going through. So, um, there's that bravery aspect
That comes along with it. So it creates a very satisfying feeling
on the back end of that thing when you know, your hero is overcome so much so
um, I mean he's great, you know, and we worked well together have great chemistry, so
um, it felt like one of those nights where I was happy we got through it and again happy that he didn't have to uh,
That he was unable to do any more damage to it, you know
Wow, just crazy just um
um, I think it's kind of funny too like talking about like everything's tweaked like
Independence everybody's fucking hurt. It's just it's something that's fucked up with somebody
Something's does something sore
Somebody's uh fucking ankles fucked or or somebody's hip isn't good
yeah, we're all banged up in some way yeah, we're all banged up and uh when we're performing and
um, just just try to tough it out for the fans and yeah, you know for the promoter and
And just going out there and try to have a bang of the match and we'll cry about it afterwards. Yeah, basically
There's no work no more. Yeah, exactly. So alive
Uh, he he might be might have been murdered by his cat, you know, finally or he's asleep or he's asleep
It could be that too. That'd be fucking funny. Um
I wanted to bring up the shield, but we're already pretty late in time. So yeah, we'll uh, we'll do the
the
His comments about cmpunk. This is a pretty long clip. So we'll we can pause it here and there but
This is his feeling about punk
And punk didn't get injured at the rumble what was your match at wrestlemania gonna look like yeah
Well, you know what? That's a great question. It would have been seth rollins and cmpunk. I believe
But then you've got the
the rock and his
introduction into that story, um
Right after the royal rumble or right before royal ride the timeline's all wacky to me
but you know, he comes in and and kind of didn't really understand the scope of
What he was messing up. I don't think and um take this shot and so I don't know. I don't know what would have happened it had
punk
won the rumble, um
Or just not got injured or not got injured. Yeah, I don't really know, you know you
Like I don't know where cody would have landed in all of that
I don't know where roman I don't know where any there were just a lot of players and somebody would have been
On the outs, you know, I don't know who that would have been. I have no idea
So, I mean all the stars were pointing towards cmpunk and seth rollins at wrestlemania. Um, but you know, it's
Tough business and things get in the way, but then we wouldn't have what we have now
We would not have what we have now seth rollins cmpunk first raw on netflix
And man, these promos have been something else
Uh, yeah, they've been they've been interesting
They've been interesting
um
I mean, it's just these are promos. These are things that i've thought about saying
publicly for a long time
and things i've
Wanted to say to his face for a long time and haven't been able to or have said privately
You know occasionally I would get asked about asked about him over the years and you would see some of it slip out
um
But most of the time I just never wanted to acknowledge
his existence because he was such a
I mean he really was just a cancer to my career for
Many years while he was gone. He he an intentional one, you know what I mean? He was a parasite
He really just wanted to to it seemed like every time he could take a pot shot at me or the company
he was trying to and so
um, I never wanted to give that credence because I just kind of looked at him as like a troll i'm like
I didn't I don't want to acknowledge these things because then it looks like
They matter and they don't but it did bother me internally a because
You know we were trying dude
That roster from like I mean he leaves in 2014
Right, I think like we were hustling dude
We were trying our damnedest and we were given garbage a lot of the time and we
That was a very shitty roster at that time because cino. I think at that time was was gone
Uh was on smackdown
Oh, he was on smackdown. I think he's on smackdown. I think depending on the time of the year he was doing the um
Yeah
I feel like it was smackdown
But basically all the power all the big power guys were basically gone
And it was just a struggle of trying to keep people on top. That's why we had that shitty fucking
uh
Them pushing for roman and then they're pushing for seph and they were just terrible storylines and shit like that
so I can see like
Having shitty ideas and just still trying to stick it out just because there's nobody else there but them at that time
so
You were making the best of it and like you know
He was in a position where he'd made a bunch of money and it could just dip and go and
There wasn't an alternative aw didn't exist at the time
Um, there was nowhere else to go like what are we gonna do just pack up and leave because cm punk's
Feelings were hurt because that's what he wanted from guys
He didn't want people who were his friends to stay and work for the company because he felt like it was
Like it's some sort of betrayal to him and i'm like dude
A this is my dream job b
This is how I earn a living and like i'm trying to set up i'm trying to get to your level like I don't have
I don't have the luxury to just quit. I can't go anywhere else and get paid this kind of money
Like my career I don't get to work till i'm 60 either, you know
So there were it was one of the most selfish things i'd ever seen out of a human like leaving
The way he did and then kind of like expecting other people to leave
And then like taking shots of the place from a distance
When he wouldn't even explain to his friends like why he was so resistant to continuing that friendship
Like I never got an answer on were you friends up to that point? Yes
Like we were friends till he left, you know, and we had a mentor mentee kind of relationship
You know at that point because I was a lot younger
So like I didn't push I I sent him some texts and called him like after he left but
Um, I wasn't like comfortable enough with him to like because we weren't we were peers
But you know, he was here and I was here so I didn't want to like push that envelope
So after a while, I just let it go and then even over the years
I reached out to him a couple of times to try to like
Engage and just see where he was at and if he was interested in coming back
And nothing no response except whenever he would get a chance. He would just talk as much crap as he could
Um, and so yeah, I had all this stuff bottled up for 10 years
To finally be able to get out there on a microphone and say it and it's probably not even articulated
The best it can but there's just so much
real
I mean hatred is a strong word, but it's as close to hatred as you can get like animosity resentment
animosity like
Just anger and anger
You know, I mean he it's it's it's uh, it's really palpable. I think you know, the reason people attach to the promos is because they can see
That there is you know, real emotion behind them for me. And so
Um, i'll be it's a very cathartic experience for me. I'll be happy to kind of just like
Get that physicality out on the sixth and uh, and hopefully be done with it
Did you ever think cm punk would come back to wwe?
Um, you know when he joined the broadcast team on fox
Uh when they were doing that, uh backstage show, I think it was
I thought to myself, okay, maybe there's an opportunity here. Um
And then when he joined aw I kind of thought, uh
Me, you know, maybe he'll have like a twilight run here. Um
But there were then a lot of times where I just thought
You know, because it wasn't like, you know, I know he makes it out like he he didn't really like the other guy that was in charge
But the truth is he didn't really get along with the current guy that's in charge either. You know, that wasn't like they were pals
Uh as well, so um
I think that
Uh, even when triple h took over
I didn't know that I didn't think there'd be a an olive branch
To be had, you know, so, um, kind of 50 50 but I would waver more towards no
I never thought it was gonna happen and you weren't told he was gonna come back at survivor series. Uh, no, um
No, as you can tell surprise
You look very happy
Uh, you know what? I wasn't happy about was
You know randy had just come back
From a long hiatus. That was his moment
It was a great moment. I mean the reaction for him when he came through the curtain was unreal
And you know, we went out there. There was 10 of us out there and we went out there and had a hell of a contest
Um, and like just didn't really need him, you know, didn't really need him. But you know, it's chicago
It's his city. Like I don't know. It's just it's the most classic
Make it make everything about me see him in the mirror
The most classic make it make everything about me see him punk moment
I've ever seen and so, um
I was just i'm like like, you know when you're in that moment your adrenaline just going through the roof
you know, you're just on the top of a cage celebrating with your pals and like
You know sold out all state arena going bananas and then like that happens and it's no longer about the performance
It's no longer about randy. It's no longer about you know, what what you had done to get to that point
It's just hi guys about me. Remember i'm the guy that you that you miss remember remember me guys. So
um, yeah, you know just another kind of you throw that on the pile of
Disgusting seeing punk moments, but don't worry. He's not he's not selfish. He's in it for you know helping helping everybody else
Yeah, that's uh, that's that's grumpyness yeah, that's some hatred that's some hatred right there
uh
But yeah, like I don't know
I couldn't
I'm a kind of guy that kind of like I I don't try to have things bother me and just like, ah, fuck it
Well, just let it go but I can understand like
having that moment at
Uh war games and then feeling like it got stomped on by
All these guys back this piece of shit like his reaction was very genuine. Oh, his reaction was 100% genuine
He was pissed. Yeah
but
being adults
They're taking this and making money out of it. Right? Oh from yes aspect exactly
Something that should have been done in a dw, but we won't go there
Uh, so yeah, that was that was that um,
I don't got any more clips because you know, it's getting pretty late. So uh, we can move to what uh, what a botch
But do you want to do just a quick next report just to say the I don't even have it pulled up
Be fair. Okay, we'll skip it for this week. How about that? It's already pretty late
I'll be honest for the last couple weeks. I've been able to find the breakdowns
I don't know what happened to like uh, the thing I was looking at I gotta go into it and really maybe
Aew is just like hey stop doing the breakdowns
You're getting you as possible. Do you have the possibility of just like the numbers?
Like just for just we're like overall. Yeah. Hold on
Talk amongst yourselves. Oh, sir. Oh, just run the stinger. I'm gonna the per sessions, uh
Mascot brought to you by a person. Well, can't see it because your camera's off. Yeah
What my camera's off? It's been off this whole time. Wait, what? Yeah. Yeah
What the hell? Still off
What the fuck
JP broke shit. Still off
How about you leave completely leave and then come back like completely close out and come back there you go
Uh, we'll run the fucking stinger. How about that while you look for it?
All right
We interrupt this program to bring you a special report
Thank you fuck you bye
Show me what you got
Do you have a vagina he needs some milk. Oh my god. What is that?
All right, so because I don't have all the entire breakdown and uh, aw dynamite for uh wednesday
january 8th, uh actually topped out at
615
Thousand for the night. So that's not awful. That's not awful. Was it a hundred thousand less than last week? Uh, I don't remember what last week
So I think it was 700 and something last week. Uh last week's was that was the 25th?
That was the first now the the first was in 588,000. Oh shit section more
No, they did more. That's good. Yeah, I think I think one of the rampages got like a stupid amount
Oh, yeah, the rampages they get a stupid amount. I was like, what the fuck this usually gets 200 something
They got 500 or something. Yeah
Let's even find that there's a collision
Page oh
Yeah, it was like the one on New Year's Eve, right?
No, the nose one day before
Think it was like Christmas. Yeah
Is the before Christmas I think I can't find it right off hand stuff
so all these numbers are
Brandon howl from
Brendan howl the third from Wrestle Monix
Brendan Thurston, there we go. So
Yeah, so yeah, that's that's that's it. That's that's your eW quick thing for you. Yeah, there we go. Yeah
That's not you looks like he's about to pass the fuck out. We're almost done buddy. Well, I'm going to
the you guys not be able to
Make camera. Oh now it makes sense because during the that last
Seth Rollins bit I was like not an in and out and I was like does nobody notice like that?
Is it all
Not so
Now i'm just sitting here during the next report. I'm just like here we go
We're almost done buddy. This war was quick. It was quick
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That'll be uh may premiere of slurring friday, uh, 24th
24 yeah, whatever the fuck it is
Old town hardcore open challenge anyone can wrestle me literally anyone
And yeah, that's all i'm gonna leave that out
um
Mew main career wrestling the night after
25th
Um, i'm supposed to be helping mike turner deal with the problem
Uh, I don't know what kind of problem that is but uh, i'm sure i'm gonna probably kick somebody
Yeah, some sort of pathway problem
Uh, I know i'll find it
And then find instead of that's all effort
It might be the old uh, you'll group chat off to take a look. Yeah
Because we found it. Yeah, I know i'd say i've found that actually. Yeah
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I couldn't remember the pathway. So we're taking those guys. Um,
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Uh, then the night after we're gonna be at m or i'm gonna be at mew for um,
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Get to kick their ass again. Yeah, all right, you can catch me on sephiris first at the house of the rumble
Oh, yeah
Oh, yeah, the after party after after the party at jp's house. Yeah, exactly
I got like
Hopefully we're on first. I can just really get this fucking yeah. Yeah, buddy. I
Yeah, we'll do that rainy bike where you bitches going it's my ring you gotta break it down. Oh
I will roy kenton
The world was roy kent. Fuck
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