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I am your host, the main of main, Big Cat Tyler Adams.
I am here today with the hardcore maniac, JP O'Reilly.
Everybody else will be on later.
Her session's mascot is somewhere rolling around here.
Somewhere.
Everybody else is getting home from the training or waking up, probably, with the Levi's spade.
And they'll be on eventually.
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So it's a weird audio book.
Very weird audio book of us going, oh, you're trying to figure out what happened.
We got a very special, very special guest today.
I think I'll, even though he's not here, let me roll the roll the stinger because I'm pretty
sure you'll probably be here in a little bit.
I think this is fake.
Interview questions with Levi Spade.
I've never seen that intro before.
Please welcome our guest for tonight.
He is, if I remember correctly from the last show, he is part owner now of MPW and former
hardcore champion.
Johnny Primer.
Hey, it's me.
It's Johnny Primer.
Shut up, JP.
Shut up.
And before I saw your little interview question, before you interview questions, can you warn
me next time I have to watch three minutes of Lee Miller wrestling?
Come on now.
That was tough to get through.
That was hard to get through.
I mean, if you, if you, I know it's hard to go through, but you notice he's getting his
ass kicked most of that.
I mean, that's what he does the best.
He gets an ass kicked all the time.
See, I didn't know if I wanted to clip that for the show, but it's so good with with Alexander
Lee with the car spot because 99% of that match, you guys just beat the piss out of
them.
I don't think they had any offense at all.
You like job them out for that fucking show.
It's on the main collections page.
And if you watch it back, there there's like this, this amount of offense, like a few Kendo
shots or whatever.
But I don't, I don't think Samuel Matthews got any offense.
I don't think they both did.
It's like a few Kendo shots and that it's like you fucking job them out.
Basically, I mean, I didn't call them ads.
I was just there to have a good time.
Jobbers gonna job.
Hey, what can you say?
Who's gonna job?
So usually typically we start this with Levi's Bay, but he's not here right now.
I see that.
So you'll be on I'm assuming in a little bit.
So why don't you give a little bit of background about yourself?
Like when you started wrestling, you know, what's going on right now currently?
I'm not gonna make me think of dates.
That's terrible.
I started wrestling probably like, well, just give it 20 years.
We'll say it's been 20 years off and on.
I can't remember the specific date.
I have a wrestling license, which you you two probably have never heard of.
You may have heard it in passing, but may use to require a wrestling license.
So I still have my laying around the first one I ever got.
I don't know what dates on it.
So but you have to pay 60 dollars a year to be a wrestler in the state of Maine.
So that was fun.
Had to get that every year.
And then we won't go into the antics of what happened to those wrestling licenses, but
we'll just talk about that.
But the main thought of commission is just no longer there anymore, and that's why we
don't do that anymore, which that's why every person around tax time likes to run their
own promotion.
But we won't get into that either.
Yeah, that season pro wrestling.
It happens.
It happens every year.
More about me, huh?
I mean, I hate remembering old promotions because I don't like some of the ones I used
to work for.
But I did.
We'll mention IWE, which, you know, went down in flames.
Thank God.
I mean, vacation land can stay burns in hell as well.
But there's a Phoenix pro wrestling now they burn.
Yeah, that's great.
You never see my face on that in that ring ever burning ever.
They make the joke.
It's like a shitty company died and burned in ashes and another shitty company.
You know what they had?
They had great like the wrestling and that was fun.
The locker room was fun.
It's just that the people who ran it were idiots.
They were morons that didn't listen to the people who have been doing it for years.
And like model my favorite matches was against Blade Bandit, a dog collar match there.
Great match.
Fun times.
But too bad it was for that dumper company.
Yeah, that was a good match.
Wasn't there an issue with the blading though?
The blade spot?
Yeah.
Blade.
He bled a little too much and couldn't see.
Blade did the blade job and he's like, I got myself good.
And I was like, yeah, I see that.
He's like, I got myself three times.
I'm like, son of a bitch.
All right.
Well, we're going to the end of this match.
He's like, why?
It's like, because you can't see a goddamn thing.
Well, it's funny because it's like every single time because you're expecting like when you
gig immediate and sometimes it's not immediate.
So it's like, he's like, oh, there's no blood.
Let me do it again.
Oh, there's still no blood.
Let me do it again.
And then you're just pissing blood off down your face all over the mat and camera.
You get too many times.
This is why I don't just do it the hard way.
I know you take a stupid fucking cheese grater and fucking slap it on your head.
Yeah.
You should ask him about the tennis racket.
He likes that a lot, too.
That's why all the.
Yeah.
Listen, fuck the tennis racket.
Yeah.
It's still in my car too.
And yeah, you got your name on it still.
Do you ship just frame that on your wall?
Yeah, I can add more stuff to the bag.
I got to put some wrestling like my wrestling collectibles up on the back wall.
All right, let's go.
We'll do a little bit more about me.
I used to travel to Vermont, Connecticut, Rhode Island, everywhere because I had no
job and I just wanted to wrestle and Alexander Lee like, hey, what are you doing?
I'm like, nothing's going to show.
I'm like, all right.
So we just randomly I'd randomly be at a show for saw in my gay Vermont or show up at NCW
and where I forget the town they're wrestling in mass, but the one they're always in.
Yeah.
But every now and again, they'd have a show in Connecticut or Rhode Island.
Yeah.
So we went, we went a lot of places and just did that.
And I've had titles and I mean, titles are great and all, but it's, it's more like, I
like wrestling for the memories and some of the people I met, cause I still talk to some
of that don't even wrestle anymore that I just like.
And then there's also the people that I don't like that still wrestle, but we don't get
into that either because I'm too old to hold grudges anymore.
Except JP, JP still sucks.
As your current MPW hardcore champion.
Hey, hey, I just booked the matches.
I don't know.
You know, it happens.
Hey, you, but you do a better job at booking them than winning them.
That's you know, you didn't, you got, Hey, go through that Lego table.
I wasn't getting up.
I'll give, I'll give you that.
I've always tipped my hat to you.
You're better at the Lego death match.
And I, I'm glad that we got to do it though.
Specifically that style of that three and oh, so that if you think, well, I had fun
except for the table.
Do you know what he doesn't know how to take?
Apparently a power bomb into a barbed wire chair.
Apparently that's not, he doesn't know how to take.
Well, I, I tried to power bomb into the Lego containers and he just kind of fell on those
too.
So listen, they get your power bombs.
I don't have enough power to hoist me over that.
Is that a fat joke or a joke?
He didn't even lift me on that one.
He didn't even like pull me out or nothing.
It was just drop.
Of course.
Nice drop.
Got some of the dog on that right here.
Oh wow.
Hey, throwback.
Yeah, that, that's real.
I think that was right after the blade job.
Yeah, that's right there.
Right there.
Yeah, that's right after.
And then this is me going, Hey, guess what?
We're going home, buddy.
Yeah.
I had buttered up and like, Oh, now it's on me.
And then there you go.
Yeah.
That's how bad he was bleeding.
Yep.
So he's like, cause we had another, like, we were going to fight all the way around and
stuff like that.
He's like, why aren't we doing that?
I was like, cause you can't see.
It's see.
It's like, we can do a little bit more, but that's it.
Like, yeah, I'm trying not to get more blood on me.
Cause between everyone, there was so much blood that was dropped in that venue.
Like that, that was a business.
That was a indoor yard sale business and we were out here blocking blood and like on,
on the monthly.
Yeah.
It was insane.
Blood, blood was extra.
Blood was extra.
Yeah.
Oh man.
Look at that.
Bro, that canvas is like 80% by fault and new gun Larry, Larry literally went like,
okay, this is the hardcore canvas and this is the regular canvas as he should have.
Yeah.
Purposely for that.
No, it's funny.
I don't remember the finish of this match, honestly, cause it's, it was how many years
ago now?
Two, three.
I don't remember.
Yeah.
We're like three at this point.
Yeah.
I think it's three.
Cause I, I was championed for a couple of months before, uh, you know, they shit the
bed.
That's a nice way to put it.
Yeah.
We never got our title match.
Yeah.
I never got to defend.
I think I defended it twice.
Well, you were doing the whole thing with, um, oh shit.
Uh, fucking, uh, there was so much going on at that point.
Fuck.
What is his name?
I can't think of it.
Got the picture in my head.
He pukes in outside the ring all the time.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You had that program a moment where you pretending to be the, uh, the champion.
Yeah.
He took the belt from me.
Yeah.
We were going to do something with that and then, yep.
Company shit the bed.
Yes.
The shoot interview of the world has been waiting for at this point.
Anything is off the table.
Yeah.
What Mark moment shooting?
No one's going to pay for that.
No, you know, just anything in this entire interview, it would literally be anything,
any topic you can bring up.
I mean, I've been around a long time.
I know a few things, but I, you know, I'm not going to sit here and shit on people.
I'll shit on vacation land all day long though.
Fuck that company.
Fuck it sideways.
I'm not going to say anything.
I can because it's going to come back to me anyways.
You know, people are going to be like, oh, we watched it.
I made a two hour long live video about that.
I was going to say you made a two hour long live video of everything.
What the fuck are you talking about?
That, that, that just, that solidifies it all.
There you go.
I think this was the finish.
Oh yeah, I wrapped them around the chain.
Yep.
And then I think, yeah, then I gave him a cutter.
I think, yeah.
Make sure the chain wasn't in his face though, cause I'm at least somewhat nice.
If you didn't see him twirling from the chain, you would have just sort of thought that he
was just winding up to the world.
He was trying to shake that blood off his face.
The worst, the whole crowd, the worst blade job I think still by far is fucking, uh,
UJP and Lee Miller fucking blood.
Oh my gosh.
And you know, no, that wasn't a blade job.
That was just taken two gussets and I took it right to his forehead and I just went and
that was it.
And then he had the hair all in front of his face.
You couldn't see it.
Oh my gosh.
It's so bad.
He gets up and he takes the hair and whips it back like this and he's just pissing blood
and the crowd is like, oh, Eddie Guerrero's JBL chair shot.
Yeah.
It was bad.
And then we just kept going cause that was like the middle of the batch.
Yeah.
Fuck gussets.
You can take those.
Yeah.
You can have those skewers.
I don't want to do those ever again.
Skewers, light tubes.
I've never done the skewers.
That's the only thing I've ever done.
Glass pails.
I did it once and I'm never doing it again.
Never, never do it.
Nope.
I'll never do a scaffold ever again.
Yeah.
I'm never, no.
Nope.
I found that match.
Yeah, I know.
There's like five different angles in that entire match.
I love the 15 minutes of him getting down to come cover you.
You know, it's my favorite part about that is literally Chad Epic looking at me as I'm
laying there and he goes, you're going to kick out, right?
And I don't say anything.
And as he goes to the pin, he's like, you're going to kick out, right?
He didn't kick out.
I was like, no, I'm fucking done with this shit.
Oh shit.
So the last show you announced that you are now part owner of MP.
Yes.
Yeah, I am part owner.
So that means, um, well, I think I, the thing with the part owner though is we do have,
I can control Aiden's matches and he can control mine.
And as you saw this coming show, I have to wrestle former WVV star Eugene.
What the fuck?
Like I understand that a lot of people are weary about the gimmick who don't know a lot
about his gimmick, but if you like do research, it's not trying to be insulting towards people
with special needs.
You know what I mean?
It's, it's a tribute.
Like, why wouldn't they want to see someone who's like them in the ring and you know,
portraying them?
He was my favorite character because he did everybody's finish.
Everybody's finished.
He did everybody's finish.
Whoever he was wrestling, he just did the finish.
You saw him doing stunners and rock bottoms.
Yeah, I just watched.
Yeah.
Yup.
Pedigree, pedigree and all that other shit.
He's do a tombstone though.
I think, I think I'm going to tell him that, but he needs to do a tombstone.
Yes.
You got to remember that you are wrestling Eugene and not, you know, Dinsmore like as
it, like the wrestler that is, oh, I know, I know you were wrestling Eugene.
So he could, he can pull the rat trap out out of nowhere on you.
Oh, he's probably watching my matches right now, trying to learn how to do it.
That'd be hilarious.
I would laugh so fucking hard if he did that to you.
There's only one person who was ever kicked out of the rat trap.
Who?
Alexander Lee.
Only person who was ever kicked out.
That's right.
I'm thinking about it.
I'm like, no, I never have.
Nope.
Put on the ropes happens.
Um, breakups have happened, but never kicked out.
That's like, uh, that's like me with the, uh, the Johnson special.
I'm the only one that's ever kicked out of that.
However, nobody knows that because it's on a limitless dojo mojo at the dojo wasn't at
a live event.
So unless you were paying attention to the YouTube clips, they were definitely, I mean,
that wasn't a lot of wrestling then like for a COVID you guys pretty much had the niche
on it really.
Yeah.
It was the last mojo at the dojo was more of a, um, because we didn't have a venue,
a venue.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
We were doing like a venue and then like, like a month plus worth of content just to
put on YouTube, just to, just to be, you know, still out there.
You guys had Broncos.
It was just like, but it was like limited capacity or whatever.
No, this was, this was for the, the, um, the, um, uh, the, uh, yard sale.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Well, we can only, you can only book, you can only book like X amount of dates.
Like he was, he was able to do so many dates when he could, because he knew what like the
situation was going to happen.
But now they're in the same situation as before, where it's just like, we're limitless is doing
it maybe once every three or so months because we don't have a venue.
So Milford is, uh, was great.
The last show we did, uh, jammed it packed full, but you can only fit maybe like 150,
200 people in that, in that building.
So that's like ring wars.
What was ring wars?
Like a hundred, 120, the first one, I think that's all you can fit in there.
That was a small little room.
Yeah, it was small, but like that crowd was really good.
It was a good crowd.
Yeah.
But it's a small little venue.
I grew up in Palmyra.
It's all drunks cause there's nothing to do around there.
I know.
Yeah.
I grew up in Palmyra.
There's nothing to do there, but ride on the fucking railroad beds and shit like that.
There's nothing out here.
You take your side by side and you go down the railroad beds or trails or snowmobiling
and that's about it.
And you drink that's literally, there's nothing fucking doing.
Well that's what you get for living in fucking Palmyra, I guess.
Yeah.
Don't live there.
Stormy Savage works at Burger King.
Just don't go to Burger King.
He works at the Burger King of Palmyra?
Yeah.
I'm just going to harass him now.
Before I got on the diet, I would go there and I'd be like, yeah, it's Stormy working
and they'd be like, yeah, it'd be like, cool.
Can you tell him to fuck off?
Sure thing.
Hey Stormy.
Hey Stormy, fuck you.
That's ironic like how fucking built he is that he's working a fucking fast food restaurant.
He must be aggressively flipping burgers like some ridiculous fashion.
I hope I can make it to the next MP show.
It's been a minute.
Yeah.
It's a great show.
I love the venue in Old Town.
They're not even going to be at the island.
Yeah, we're not going to be at the island.
No, it's a new building this time.
In Old Town, yeah.
We're trying to get off the island to not, I mean, it's weird.
I grew up like I'm from the reservation.
A lot of people don't know that.
You guys do, but like not a lot of fans know that that's where I'm from.
My dad lives over there.
Most of my family does, but I know that some people don't like to go over there because
I had the bad reputation and it's just a reservation, but I understand.
Usually Old Town people will be like, oh, well, we don't have to go on the reservation,
so let's go here, but still come to the island shows because we had Kennedy last, or sorry,
Anderson and that was a great show.
Yeah, that was.
He won the belt for a hot minute until the show was up then.
Some jackass took it away from him.
I don't know who that was.
I wonder who that could have been.
Yeah, some new owner.
He's kind of a prick.
Speaking of that, some new owner decided to add the pathway to our match coming up in
a few weeks.
Yeah, I did do that.
I had to because you were supposed to have Dirt City Murder Crew, but with Montero being
injured, I want to give it to three teams that I think.
I'm a fan of your guys too, and I like what Sam Matthews is doing.
We already know how I feel about Lee Miller, and I like the neighborhood, so we got three
really hungry teams that are going to go for the tag belts because they're up for grabs,
so anybody can get them.
Sorry that you have to deal with the pathway, but you know, you have to do what you got
to do.
I'm tired of dealing with Sam.
What's that?
I said it's been very personal between Sam Matthews.
Yeah, he came on my show and beat the shit out of me.
Yeah, it's kind of personal.
I heard about that.
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,
he is mentally ill is what the problem is.
I mean, he is tag teaming with Lee Miller, so that makes sense.
I mean, that does make sense.
Yeah, he's probably going to watch this podcast and message me later.
Why are you making a phone to me?
It's like because it's fucking fun.
That's why.
Don't be such an easy target.
And then he'll, you know, I don't know, quit the show.
Yeah, probably.
Lee, if you're listening right now, I'm just having some fun with you.
We're all don't get all upset.
OK, we're all having fun.
We're having a blast.
Eleven people in his aura.
He being like, he's just going to strangle me next time at the dojo.
Just not even going to say anything.
It's just to be like, you have to have a sense of human wrestling.
If I believed half the shit that people said about Johnny primer, I would have quit the
first year I was in the biz.
I had a guy in Oakland.
I threw a shirt like I had used to come on an entrance shirt.
Him and his drunk buddies pissed on my shirt, like drunkenly pissed on my shirt and try
to give it back to me.
Drunk and wet.
So you know what?
Yeah.
Oakland was a shithole there ever wrestling.
Yeah, that was gross.
That is gross.
That shirt I did not.
I just left it on the ground and on that gym floor.
It sounds like you want this like, nope.
That's almost worse than the Joseph von Schmidt and the Randy Walker incident at IWA.
I've never even mentioned that.
I'm like, oh my God.
Wait, what was that?
The one that we mentioned last show?
Yeah, I mentioned it the last show.
Yeah.
The Nazi shit.
A Nazi shit.
Yeah.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't be talking about Nazi shit.
I don't know anything about that.
How about a perfect topic now is to discuss the many, the many gimmicks of one Johnny
primer.
You were nicknamed the man of a thousand gimmicks.
So I mean, nobody gave me.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Still next.
I have a story about this actually.
So me, me, me seeing primer for the first time ever was that a show in Fort Kent.
Oh God.
It was him.
It was him versus a beat was a BS summers.
Was that his gimmick at the time?
I don't remember what they were going by that time.
Yeah.
And were you in the Carl Krupp gimmick at that point?
Yeah.
Yep.
And every time I like, I mentioned, I'm like, by the way, my first time seeing you is this.
And he looks at me and goes, no, it wasn't.
All right.
So I got a story to add to that.
So I wrestled for that company and they came up to me and Nick, you've seen Kyle Krupp.
I mean, he was, he was, he was never talked about as being a Nazi, but he pretty much
was.
Like a real Nazi.
I never said it.
Yeah.
But he was like a white supremacist, but I never said it.
Like I walked the line with it.
Yeah.
It was very visually shown.
It was visually shown, but it was, it was in poor taste, but okay.
It happens.
We all do dumb shit sometimes, you know, like put JP on a wrestling card, you know, stuff
like that.
But you have a title too.
My first time I ever met primer amongst the many gimmicks was his entire head was painted
pure white and he was a completely shaven head.
Oh yeah.
You love that.
And then black like raccoon eyeball makeup like this.
And he just looked like a giant white cue ball.
I don't know, but I don't know.
But my, my favorite Johnny primer is sting primer.
That's fine.
Stay on.
Oh my God.
Go back, go back, go back, go back.
Look at Randy.
Seriously.
That was, that was good.
Hey, you got to give Megan credit.
She did the face paint for that.
What show was, was this the vacation land?
It was vacation land.
Yeah.
Dream was I, and I don't remember that shit.
You don't remember me as staying.
Wow.
Yeah.
Oh, it was the blazing blade.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I, that might've meant during my dark times in my life.
I don't know.
And blades wearing a Johnny primer shirt.
What a dick.
Stinger primer.
Yeah.
Those, those heights were the worst thing I ever bought in my life.
Oh, you got to bring that gear back.
I have it still.
Here's the best part.
This motherfucker hits me up two days beforehand.
He's like, dude, I need a man called sting.
And I'm like, wait, what?
Why?
He's like, you'll see.
And I get there and I'm like, Oh my God, dude, Larry's like, they're not going to know that
sting song.
I'm like, that's the sting that I'm portraying though.
So I need that song.
That makes the most sense.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, you can't, you can't come out and seek it.
It's Troy.
Cause you're not black and white.
Yeah.
Wow.
You and the footage, man.
That's terrible.
You find some stuff, man.
I find.
Yeah.
And then by the way, we get some hellos here.
Um, it's a ref, ref Moe Tardy.
What's up brother?
Hey buddy.
Haven't seen you in a while.
What did he say?
You just like, you put it up and you just fucking put it down.
Hold on.
There you go.
Oh, I have to be old.
I have to wear my glasses cause I can't read these comments.
Moe has turned into the live high JP, high cat, high Dylan, next high primer.
Hey buddy.
Hey, what's up Moe?
Yeah, there we go.
And then, uh, the key is saying she can't remember primers first gimmick, but the twins
are 11.
So 11 years ago, I don't remember what I was doing.
Love it.
I could tell you the first game like I ever did was like, I had lawless with me.
So it's kind of Gothic.
And then I did.
And then Johnny would Hogan was right after that.
Johnny would Hogan brother.
And then after Johnny would, I was Jonathan Alexander primer.
Then from there, it's a fucking blur.
Like those are the three big ones.
I remember.
Well, when, when you're there, I met you.
It was a balls.
What was it?
Balls to faces, balls to faces.
Yeah.
It was, it was him and, uh, what was it?
Good Hank Flanders, house of glory.
Yeah.
House of glory.
Yep.
Good Hank Flanders.
We were team good balls.
Good team, good balls.
That's how I met primer was cue ball primer, bald head, no chief, nothing like nothing
on his face.
I know.
And now, now I have long hair most of the time.
Oh, we got our first sessions mascot.
Oh, he's upside down.
I was gonna say that's a cat's ass, sir.
Please turn the cat right side up.
He's disabled.
He's like, still hurt.
Can you, can you share with the class what the, what the, this, uh, Johnny primers?
Oh boy.
Oh God.
I don't know.
I'm looking closely.
It looks like you're not part of the.
Oh, okay.
So that was, that was, um, after divorce, Johnny primer.
So I was just, oh yeah.
No, that was like deranged from like, yeah, we just kind of, yeah.
And is that Derek, Shuri?
This is my first met Johnny primer actually.
This is IWE apparently 2013.
I think it said it was the one my restaurant is now that's Derek Shuri.
That's Derek Shuri.
This is 2018 or 2019.
2013 or 2018.
I was just like, I don't know.
I guess I was just kinda like trailer park trash, Johnny primer.
Oh yeah.
And when I rest my shiver for the first time it was J rock primer.
That was a good one.
J rock was fun too.
That's probably one of my favorites.
Cause I had Mikey with me for most of that and I miss Mikey.
Yeah.
And you were cop a primer.
Yeah, that was, yeah.
I was detective John J primer.
That went over well.
It's been a lot of getting home.
I'm making sure I gotta keep my phone right in case she needs it.
So the first time I ever got heat from the boys in the back was me getting a gun pulled
on me in front of a crowd because Mikey decided to pull a gun.
Jesus Christ.
What a real gun.
It was a fake gun.
It was presented as the real gun.
Oh my God.
Everyone had their panties in a bunch about it.
And oh my God.
And then the next night Kenny Omega came out with a shotgun on New Japan, but that was
okay.
Right.
Come on.
It's because someone took a picture.
They got the picture at the right spot with Mikey on the apron with a gun and there's
no other context in the picture.
So everyone pissed and moaned about the fucking gun.
And it's like, like Larry's like, that was dumb.
I'm like, shut up.
Absolute Carney is this.
Who the fuck is pinning them?
Well, wait, where did Billy come from?
Billy Fox?
Yes.
That happened after like Billy came out for a rematch.
I wrestled Shori, I think Dory beat me and then Billy comes out or something.
I don't remember why.
Must have had good old John, the bomb booking right there for you.
Oh yeah.
I tapped out.
I don't remember what to what it was though.
Literally, it was literally Lisa looked like a rear naked choke.
Yeah, I think it was, but I think he got into it.
Fancy.
I loved working with Derek there because I wish he would come back, but I've tried a
couple of times.
I'll see what it was.
Dude, I had Derek bust my cheek open that I actually had a vacation with Joe.
Nice.
Sorry.
You're back guys.
All right.
Yeah, that was just kind of angry primer.
I guess at least you don't have the I wrestle in trunks for a little bit too, because I
lost a shit ton of weight.
I'm looking.
I lost a shit ton of weight and I wrestled in trunks for a while because I was like,
oh, you'll never wrestle in trunks.
Like, oh really?
Don't ever dare me to do something because I'm probably going to do it.
I have that kind of mentality even at this age.
I found like a match with you and when you were tagging with fucking Alexander Lee.
I can't find it now.
He's that's that's a long time ago.
Yeah, that'd be before my time too.
Yeah, that was the New England Hey Choir.
I think it was when it was Alexander Lee was Scotty.
Vegas Vegas Vegas Vegas Vegas Vegas.
He hated that name.
I don't know why he hated it so much.
Why did he keep it?
He hated it.
I don't know.
He just hated it for so long.
And then he changed it the day that I started wrestling my first my first match here that
that night was the night he changed.
Oh, was it that night?
Yeah, same night because it's him and Ace Red Rooster Johnny primer.
Is that a red rooster?
Johnny, is that a thing?
No, it was just the root.
It was just because I was using Allison Chains, the rooster.
Oh, so I would did that.
Yeah.
I do a lot of like, especially after the divorce, because I know I hate I hate bringing that
up.
But like, you're trying to find yourself and I was trying to find myself in wrestling again,
too, because I don't know what I wanted to do.
And then that was just I was going back and forth with that stuff.
And yeah, so what happens?
But I'm happy with my gimmick now isn't even a gimmick.
It's just me or a Cannibal Corpse t shirt and beat the shit out of people.
That's my that's what I do.
What I do on a regular basis.
What would you say is your favorite?
Or if I would say favorite moment, I guess, in anything you've ever done.
People always ask me that and it's hard to break it down.
Like I, I hate that question because I've had so many good moments.
I mean, there's a lot of dog shit that rolls in there, too.
Here's a question.
What's your most successful accomplishment in wrestling?
Working for wrestling is awesome.
I don't know if you guys even know when that came through.
Yeah.
It was the offshoot of Chikara and we got me and Joey Primer got to work the ice creams.
So yeah, I guess that's one of my favorite moments because I'm a huge fan of gimmicks
and wrestling the ice creams was pretty fucking cool.
I think my favorite that I've seen ever obviously was New Jack and New Down.
OK, yeah.
Me bringing New Jack in was pretty cool.
That's my favorite story.
Nobody said I could do it.
Everyone's like, you're not going to do it.
I'm like, really?
Watch.
Yeah.
OK, I've heard this story once.
Why don't you retell the story for the podcast?
The story, the story from which one?
The New Jack story.
Jack story.
Yeah.
OK, all right.
So I was working at the time and I got a new phone number and New Jack got real pissed.
There was two promoters.
It was me and my friend Reed doing it together.
And I changed my phone number and I went to work and didn't give New Jack my new phone
number and he flipped the fuck out all over the Internet.
Be like, oh, that fucking Mark promoter, Johnny Primer, he owes me money.
He doesn't have his phone number.
And then I get home and I'm like, New Jack, this is my new number.
He's like, oh, sorry.
Like motherfucker.
So yeah, he was he was super pissed.
Wasn't going to come to the show and all this.
And I was like, I was at work.
I didn't have time to text you, man.
Like I've been a line cook most of my wrestling career.
So I can't really touch my phone when I'm cooking.
Like it's usually put away.
So what?
Hold on.
What was like what was the story for that?
Like what?
Like it was like, oh, you can't you can't you like you can't get New Jack like what?
How did that come up?
Like just to prove them wrong that you could.
I was good.
I was going to run a show because I was tired of Ida B for a while there.
I just wasn't happy with what was going on with my direction of myself.
And I'm like, you know what, I'm going to show just to see if I can do it.
And then I wanted to bring somebody in that I idolized.
And I was like, you know, I it was between New Jack and Perry Saturn.
Those were the two I had that I was communicating with.
We did quite the contrast, but they're both I mean, they're both ECW guys, but not a lot
of people know Perry Saturn's ECW stuff.
So I'm like, you know what?
Fuck it.
And New Jack was Jack was cheap.
And he drove like he got a rental car and drove up here with a tag partner.
And I'm just like, you know what?
Fuck it.
I'm going to get New Jack.
And we drew one hundred and seventy five.
And the rest of the card was pretty stacked.
Yeah.
And have that match pan out there for them.
Oh, they bled like stuck pigs.
They got their asses to kick.
They didn't.
You Jack shoot on Larry Waller.
I don't know if he did, but Larry's the shit.
So probably I thought there was something that ensued that caused to happen.
It was it was a thing between Larry and Eric because Larry was Eric's brother.
Lots of time.
Yeah, that's it.
Oh, yeah.
And then New Jack gave him a few stiff shots with a baseball bat.
There's video of the match on YouTube.
It is there.
Yeah.
Somewhere.
Oh, yeah.
There it is.
Oh, yeah.
One.
That's Kareem coming in just being the piss out of them.
Look at that booty.
Yeah.
Kareem's a big dude.
You guys are a booty.
My other favorite part of this whole thing is like New Jack's like I need my song playing
the whole time.
I was like, I know I've seen wrestling before New Jack.
It's cool.
Also shout out to the ultraviolet undergrad assassin Rob Marsh.
Love love Marsh.
I would love to get Marsh to come for MPW sometime.
I love the ref is just standing there going like, I don't know.
I don't know what to do.
I think that's right.
Isn't that will?
Yeah, that's well, doge.
Yeah.
Wow.
I'm like this year 2012 was this I believe.
I'm like, Dad, Tony.
Yeah.
I believe this is 20.
Yeah.
This was like three to seven years ago.
This was uploaded.
So that was his way.
Leo was a baby when this came out.
They just turned 13.
So who's the homeboy in the the the the camera?
That's Kareem.
That's New Jack's tag partner.
Oh, really?
Yeah, at the time.
Oh, here it comes.
Here it comes.
Jesus Christ.
He's just beating the piss out of people.
He there's no there's no work here.
No, no.
Yeah.
I know.
No, he has a he had something that he Mars told us to cut him.
Mars told New Jack to come.
So why would you tell New Jack to cut you?
Why would you do that?
You got to ask that question.
Animal Marsh is the reason why I started doing death ratchets.
Marches the more screws loose.
So gotcha.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, he's taking.
I don't know what that is.
It looks like maybe like a it was like like a barbecue, like barbecue.
Yeah.
I think it's like the barbecue forks or something like that.
Yeah.
I hope we can show this on YouTube.
So we better.
I don't think you can see much of the on fucking YouTube.
So if I get copyright strike for this, I'll be the PG audience or fucking it's going to
flag it like it didn't ask me for like 18 older.
So well, it's from my show.
So I don't think you can cop.
I can copyright it anymore.
Yeah.
We have a cease and desist letter tomorrow.
Well, I did call her.
I never do the Rikishi.
He has the booty to do it.
He's gone.
He runs a school, too, but I forget where he runs it.
Kareem does.
Yeah, he runs a school because he I think it's in I think it's called Keystone.
Maybe I don't remember.
Well, like it's the first day is this is how you blade.
Yes.
If I were to open a hardcore trading first day is you don't piss off New Jack.
I don't care if he's dead.
He's still coming for you.
Yeah, he'll still haunt your ass.
Yeah.
It's funny because everyone's like, oh, you're going to go and watch the match.
I was like, bitch, I paid for this match.
I'm going to go watch it.
I'm going to go sit in the front row and watch it.
I did.
I stood over in my the curtain.
Murder somebody.
Yeah, I paid for murder.
I'm going to watch murder.
Like he dropped an elbow.
I was like, it was nothing.
And it's funny, too, because he cut it at the finish.
He cuts his hand open and he comes to me and he's like, he's like primer.
I cut my hand open as people in the bathroom and you go wash it out.
I'm like, you're a bleeding man.
I think they're going to leave for you a little bit more than they're going to be.
I guess what you did in that ring.
Look at it.
Look at that man's face.
It's just like no reality.
Jack man.
He's like, I'm going to commit murder.
New Jack in Bang, Cape Heart, Bangor, Maine, because I was a Cape Art Rec Center where
we did that.
Oh, that was a Cape Art.
Yeah, dude.
Holy shit.
Why don't you get that venue?
I'm kidding.
Don't suggest that.
You know why you don't get that venues because of this match right here.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Why you can never do anything?
Yeah.
They stay in the floor with blood.
It happened.
I tried to get it up, but it was white tile flooring.
You don't get blood out of that.
Yeah, you do.
You need a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser.
Well, I didn't have a Magic Eraser.
Mine, I paid money for new Jack.
That was it.
I didn't have money for Magic Erasers.
That's becoming a shirt.
I paid for new Jack.
I didn't have any money for Magic Erasers.
Oh my God.
I love how he tried to freaking deflect it.
There was no deflecting that.
No, there was not.
My cat just turned heel on me.
Could you make it a much new Jack?
He's learning.
I will spit sake across the room.
All right.
Thank you.
I don't want to watch another seven minutes of murder.
Yeah, it's so nice.
I'm going to watch it.
Oh my God.
So the finished I'll give you the finished.
The finish is he had the chair wrapped in light bulb tubes and came off the rope and
landed on Rob Marsh's head with that chair.
Oh, I'll have to play that part then.
That's how he cut his hands.
Speaking of light bulbs tubes, the girlfriend sent me this clip of this girl.
She's got like this stick.
It looks like a rake man out of light tubes.
And she like waxes down the screen.
I'm just going like, I'm like, don't ever show JP this.
Don't show JP this.
Oh dude.
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Oh my god. We're doing we're doing roles just the basic roles and he fucking spikes his head do it trying to do a front
Roll I I got a good one for you Scotty wilds running seminar
It was back when the dojo just started get going
Every few months with the trainers to do is they'd have us all get together and have like a like how are you guys doing?
At training, you know, like are do you suck? Can we can we work with you?
So roadblock
These things so Scotty wild is having us do this thing where you jump up
You go from the bottom rope to the middle rope turn and do a three-quarter roll
Now I'd be like, yeah, okay
Then I was terrified of it because I was like I'm gonna break my neck
Boy boy
Everyone everyone there's 10 there's 15 of us we all stopped we're like hey fuckers you make it one of the 3w heavyweight champion
right now, right I had to I had to
Technically you're talking to 3w tag team champions right now. That is technically true. I mean, yeah. Yeah
Champions we were supernova tag team champions as well
The first time I met roadblock I think he was roughing most of the time but I remember
The worst match I ever had a role while there's two but one I had with him
He forgot his entire comeback that was Jonathan. I was gonna promise them
I just beat the shit out of him, but I'm hitting him so hard
You can hear it out back a city side because I'm just laying in real hits and I'm like you stuck every time
I'm punching him because I was still new to I
Like not new new but newer and I didn't know better than that
But roadblock also sucks. I don't feel bad. I have too many roadblocks. Oh, here we go
First time I ever met him was him and Luke Roberts doing a scaffold match in Winslow. I was there for that one
Yep, I was sitting like in the balcony and not watching that. It was abysmal shit
Happening I was like what in the goddamn and then I meet roadblock in person and I'm just like, oh it gets worse
That's a
Let roadblock do a scaffold match
Yeah, that was when Luke was booking shows he yeah, no one else wanted to do it and he roadblocked it
I was in high school. I think this is my sophomore year of high schoolers or like junior high school
Ran it out of a building in Winslow and I went there on social show and watched it the main event
They definitely was like a 20 30 foot scaffold. Yeah. Yeah huge. Oh my god, okay
This is where you almost breaks his fucking neck, let me find it
I knew no you want to talk about breaking out file find the other one, dude
He practices in training any the first time he practices it he fucking spiked his head on off the mat
It's like cool. Maybe you shouldn't be doing her Karan is it my hair will know this one
It's the Ricky Williams and roadblock table splashing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I believe I can fly
Find it. Where's the hell's this her Karat right here?
Oh, come on where all the show that actually always misses
Where's the her Karana?
You think roblox and a hurricane Ron? I've been horrified at what's gonna happen. Oh, he looked like
I can find it
It's right in this match. I don't remember where he does it. That's a problem
He probably doesn't either
Now going why guys do he came I got commented on this is like one of the first fucking videos I commented on and
He came up to me goes. I saw your video about me. I'm like, oh fuck
about that
It's in this match just can't fuck it off no, that's a shoulder
It's in here somewhere. I just don't remember where he fucking does it
This is when ace is getting pissed at him
Oh, yeah, I took him this long to get pissed at him
I threw a little joke better than from Ergonauti tonight
You guys have to realize that these two
Yeah as the leather yeah, you know who they puted with me and Joe
No, no, they've you know with me and me and Hank baby, I don't remember
Oh, no, they've you know with me and me and Hank baby, I don't remember terrible bounce
Oh my god, I've seen
It's in this match, I know it is
He gave himself the tombstone
I need that on a t-shirt
He's completely in a set on gimmick he's indestructible he's indestructible roadblock
Yeah, because we're this music team he fucking got a motorcycle accident and spread her brain matter on the concrete
And somehow it just like
I'm messing on my phone
His brain just like I don't know
There man something that's better. There you go. There we go. There we go
uh, so, uh, one of the one of my favorite questions for that, uh,
Um, where's Levi? I was gonna say the Levi's usually asked. Um, yeah, what is your
What is the worst bump you ever seen and what is the worst bump you've ever taken?
Oh worst bump I ever taken, um
The one that I remember
Was I did a cutter to the floor at city side with Joe?
And we did it off the apron to the floor and I thought the blue mat was there but it was not there
So I just hit straight floor
And I rolled over to Joe and I was like, well, that was the worst fucking thing I could ever think of
That kind of reminds me of uh when we did it on the floor
You and me we like
We uh, you did the cutter to me. We hit the floor. Yeah, you're good. Like yeah, like that fucking sucked in there like yeah
Yeah
Fuck floors man anything on the floor. I'm not happy about um, the worst bump I've ever seen
Other than that roadblock one I just watched that one was pretty bad
But i'm gonna go with you know what i'm gonna steal jps and it's the uh, the video he was looking for
Who was doing the headbutt? I forgot who was doing the headbutt. It was roadblock jumping off of either
Yeah, apron or the second like any mist right?
A table that was on the outside and ricky williams was laying on the table and he literally goes over the table and lands head first
On the fairfield community center. Yep
Yeah
Hold on
Ricky williams, I don't know what it's in fairfield
I don't know if there was a stipulation or what it was but ricky was laying on a table and there's a stick
There's a photo of roadblock upside down in the air landing on his head
Yeah, it was it was fairfield because I remember it was a fairfield building because I just looked at him and I was like
You suck. This was like even between
2009 and 2001
Okay
I mean I looked I was looking this whole time and I could not
No, that's brewer. Yeah, this is city side
Says crash landing. So that's why
Crash landing that's teddy though. That's that's
Yeah, okay, redacted its name
We're dead. No, I guess they'll call him teddy. Fuck you teddy. Yeah, fuck you. No, i'm good. I
I'm all peace and love over here. Usually when we use numbing back it is because they've done like
Not so great things though. That's usually when we call redacted. Yeah
No, like no like
Former ref that we don't talk about
Yeah
I think I know which former rep you're talking about but I won't mention his name either. Yeah, he was in like the first six of my matches
Yeah, and he was a really nice dude the hell that's like I fucking like like stepped up like set up helped me out everything and then
Fucking found that shit out with piece of shit. How big a pretty was do you remember dickie christmas?
Why does that sound familiar he was he was the redheaded ref for limit for let's for a while
He did some shows for rick a uh, no vacate victory too, wasn't that yeah bcw
Yeah
Yeah, and I not mind the quarter hour breakdown for dynamite for that day
I have one job in this podcast and I can't find it
So I actually um, i'll I know we're talking just shooting the ship
But I actually watched aw the first time in month and I enjoyed it
Nice. Yeah, the last show wasn't that bad. I watched rocking ricochet stabs were with scissors were pretty fucking cool
This is gonna sound awful, but you know what i've been watching a crap ton of
So like the last few weeks at work because my new job is a lot of filing right now until I start learning how to do the lab
I've been leaving my phone up and i've been watching I found out that tna has a lot of like 90% of their pay-per-views on youtube for free
I have literally gone through 20. I have gone through 2012 and 2013. So i'm in the aces and eights era right now
There's a there's an app on a channel on pluto too. That does old tna pay-per-views and shit
Oh, they do like yeah, it's I forget. I think it's just tna. It's on the pluto app. You just gotta look for it
Listen, so I didn't find the table spot, but I did find something that's equally just fucked
Uh, let's really do the thing
Oh shit
All right, I don't need even to explain any context here. Oh, it's the it's mini moose
Mini moose god
That's Ricky Williams
Holy shit, that's Ricky Williams 2000. Oh my god
Yeah, I can't say anything because that was me I was the same fucking way
Yeah, me too. I can't say anything either. I'm a fat boy now too. So I feel I feel you guys. I mean, yeah
Oh god. Yeah, just this is this was a thing
Well, yeah, I remember I remember
Fuck them
Yeah, what are they they prefer little people now right that's the
M word
Well, I was just trying to be nice like I don't want to say
Shit, that'll get you guys off. Oh, you know youtube that's
That person sent in the corner
The worst one I remember was anti, you know coming down then landed wrong and said fuck it. Oh, yes
I that's part of the um, that's part of the uh, the uh, what about mania bro?
Yeah, when he was safe though, he landed safely
Nikia that was actually a let's show
uh
When I think of worse bumps, I think of people who got hurt because like if you land safely
That means that's a great bump because you're not hurt. But if you land and hurt yourself, that's a bad bump
And a bad bump. That's a bad bump. I've never like I've never taken a bump where it's like
Uh, this fucking stuff many gimmicks of uh, johnny primer. No, fuck you could sit here all day
What are you looking to accomplish? Oh dear god
I love the icp icp johnny primer. That was a venom face paint. Thank you
Look at the baby randy, right? We'll make sure it's that big
Right. I'm sorry. So back with my job beautiful face paint done by you know, a very nice person my job back
I defeated. I think justina did my face pain. What's the other guy's big guy? What's his name?
Big gene. No, no the other guy. Oh, you wear the mask. Oh scary. Yeah, he's kind of scary dante dante. Yeah
Oh dante, I had a good part with good hands Flanders. I think the face paint inspired me
So, you know what? I'm here to take down this fucking terrible primer ink. I don't like that
I don't like using my life. He's not a real primer. I'm a real primer. Michael primer. Wherever he is is a real primer
There's no way how is he the chosen one?
I have a mickey primer just disappeared from me because he was seeing a girl who hated rattling
But i'm like fuck you for that
I still give him shit about that to this day
Just like he would randomly not show up
One of my one of my favorite ones because it has me in it but this is actually pretty aggressive
Oh, yeah, yeah
I think you were still training at the time. Oh, yeah, he had to come on interrupt me
This is it. This was this is my this might be this was the night that the fucking chair shot
The the shoot the joe hitting the fucking chair shot on crash
He hit him so hard that like I like legitimately thought he murdered him like he hit him so my last run here
He probably deserved it
Yes, who think they can play a wrestler to that buck rack my we
I made this company you walk around with your little title you walk around you took my best
I'm fun beating with joe. Like that was one of my favorite dudes for what for what?
There's no reason that he needed to be with you. I am the real deal
I am the real primer tomorrow
Actually, I think it's where you hit me with the gear not crash. Yeah, I don't remember the content
Random question though because I remember you talking about you and joe feuding
He said you had great like promos against each other but the matches are shit
Yes, yes
Promos were fun as hell
But uh, we just didn't you always get that person, you know mesh in the ring well with and that was me and joe
I think it's because we're too much alike
Yep, but the matches were usually don't oh god
I found cheeky
I'll bring it back primer last night. You have to fight. I mean I can that mustache
I could probably grow still but i'm not shaving my head
I don't feel going into that match
Well, they attacked me from behind crash landing and his I don't even know the other guys
What's the other guy's name joey morocco?
She actually not know or that's a cool name
Newcomer joey morocco. They attacked joey from behind. I don't think that's johnny morocco former. I he was uh
crap
He he did like this mobster gimmick
Yeah, yeah, he was from he was from canada
I think yeah, I believe it was I think I remember I wrestled him at a fair. It was me and ace versus
No, it was me and tony versus him and ace like that picture. I have the bean tony. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Oh young man, let's go ahead and hit him
Yeah, pretty much. It was that was fun man
Me and tony we should get him on the podcast
Oh dear god make I don't think nine o'clock's probably too late for tony though. Yeah, that's true
Larry kids got school in the morning
That is still I don't know
That is still I don't remember who told me that story, but that's still one of my favorite tony quotes ever
And i'm just i'm gonna do tony story for if you want to hear tony story some of you heard it
Some of you haven't but i'll give you a good tony story
So i'm wrestling tony and um
It's has the fox vaniers in this and his tag partner
Tony puts me in a sleeper and he's got they're supposed to come out and make it a no contest because i had to be champion
They're supposed to attack tony tony puts me in a sleeper tony's arm is bigger around than I was at the time
And he's got me in the sleeper and he's he's in my ear and he's like promo where are they at?
And i'm like i'm trying not to laugh. I'm glad tony has his arm right here because i'm laughing my ass off
And then they're they're still not out there
I'm in the sleeper for at least a minute now at least seem like a minute tony's like i don't think them boys coming
I'm like tony they'll be here
And then like they finally come out and they take their sweet ass time to get in the ring and he's like
Probably you don't look like superman you survived tony has to sleep a hold i'm like jesus christ
So I just laying face down in the mat after they attack him and i'm just laughing in the man
Fucking tony's just whispering in my ear and i'm like oh my god. That's my favorite tony story
It's like the time I bumped off one of his punches
And I hear him in the ring full volume not like trying to be subtle or anything full volume
It looks at larry goes larry the bumping off my punches
And i'm laughing like i'm cracking up because it's funny as shit denis is sitting right in front of me
And i'm a heel so i gotta like well i gotta be an asshole about this. I like he's so strong
Dennis is correct. The entire road starts cracking up like
I remember my I remember tony
I remember tony
Calling for the uh, the gut punch for me
and for some reason when he whipped me off the ropes I
Thought I was ducking your clothesline
And he goes to hit me with the gut punch and i'm hunched all the way over and he just rock
Occums me in the top
And I fall into the ropes like dean ambrose style and you watch my head just ricochet off the top rope
And I almost fall out onto the floor. I just want to title the night before and almost just completely died like the day after
My
My favorite tony story is when he lost his ship because somebody did his fucking headbutt
No, the funniest part is he didn't get mad about it larry got mad about it. Oh, I thought
I got mad about it. He told me
Tony gave it to do site. Why did you do my finish and larry was like
mad
like freaking like super saiyan cousin larry out back
He's like he's over 9 000
And that's the thing like because you like sometimes you forget like the old school fucking like because we do everything like you wouldn't think
That was a fucking finish leg dropping his finish for fucking hall cogan, you know
Like the simplest did a ddt used to be a fucking finish. Yeah, so jake roberts. He's a proud of yours with us
Yeah
So it's like you wouldn't think like and then you do it's like oh fuck, you know, because everyone likes to do my fucking finish
Because it's just a fucking eats pot. So which is why I change again
I don't know what you're talking about. No one ever does my fucking finish ever. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah
He's right. I have a funny story about I like the fucking uh, the you you used to do the um
shit, uh, uh, uh fucking uh
claymore
I still do once in a while i'm getting old man. Come on. I like I like taking it
That's why I asked you to do it. Yeah, I know air gas four two at ring wars and i'm like son of a bitch
all right, so
speaking of funny spots, so i'm at skips this last weekend, right and
Um, i'm taking on blade bandit. We're we're we're doing our thing, you know late night when we call match
We call like four things and we just go out there and do shit
Uh, that's blade is one of the easiest people in the world to work with i'm not even joking
Sorry breaking news. Tiffany stratton just became the women's champion just took it off nightjacks. Wow
I really fucking cashed it. Holy shit
She just fucking cashed it
Basically, what what just happened here is jp's like i'm sick of listening to your story. It's fuck you
I'm sorry. I just was looked over and was like what's happening?
Hey, that's important news. Oh nix is talking
Yeah, basically, yeah
Uh anyway, finish the story real quick. We're watching the match before us and there's like five neck breakers in it
And i'm like, what are the only cutoff spots?
I've called the heat is a neck breaker because I wanted to do james storm's jumping neck breaker that he does
It's almost a reverse cutter. That's what reminded me of the story
And the only thing blade said to me is just lay it flat so it'll break my neck and I was like well, duh
I still that's still I have to bring it up, but the favorite fucking
Blade we're doing the scram that's shitty scram over lets and he goes to do a like a fucking uh,
jumping uh
jumping bulldog and just fucks it up and we're all both on the mat and I have to shut my face in the mat because i'm
Laughing so hard because all blade is going is like that fucking suck. I fucking suck
I'm sorry
And the thing is he's he's not he's a really good wrestler
And sometimes he gets you like in that shit, too. He's just like he'll start
You're like blade shut up. I'm laughing and i'm supposed to be healed go away
It's just like when msp used to come out when you fucking we were like, oh shit, we're not supposed to fucking
We're not supposed to do this
In the middle of the ring like
Oh shit, yeah, that's right. So i'll bring up a name that only nick probably remembers
But I wrestled jay jillett for a while and we used to tell people that
To get music that was censored because he used to come out to um
Young gz I put on and i'm out there because i'm the heel so i'm out there first
He did not get the censored version
And so i'm out there, you know, like oh, this is a cool song and then it starts dropping the end bomb repeatedly
And i'm like, what the fuck am I?
Well, how am I supposed to react to this like
It's just dropping them left and right and jay jillett comes out and he's a very white guy from the
Massachusetts and it's like they I don't think they expect to see him come through the curtain with that song and then after that we're like
We found the censored version for him. Like you need to have the n-word out of that song
Like if that dropped like d18 i'm walking out. Yeah. Okay
Yeah, and I was just i'm like, holy shit like we told you several like I get it
You know, there's gonna be a an aftermarket song
That one's a big one. That one's a big one. It's like um, speaking of that. What's the name of that song? Um
Is it she's beautiful?
Where it actually is an f-bomb in the middle of it
Really? It's like it. Yeah, it's like
Oh, I I think it's that song. Hold on
I had to pick him up. Uh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
I don't know
I had to pick him up. Uh, uh bring him to brewer tony
He gets in the car and looks at iza and he's his friends and says all you motherfuckers
Tony used to do say this say the craziest shit out back that I can't repeat but it's just like just get us all
Oh my god, that was so fucking funny
Bad ways orange got a big pee pee
Uh
I I I used to leave down my gear to wear my orange gear like wait
Oh shit, he's talking to ducky which is funny though. Oh tony had like
It's funny because every single time tony's in the locker room and he starts telling stories
Even if everybody's in the middle of a conversation, we all just fucking stop and listen
Because it's just like the shit that he's talking about because you hear it and you're just like what is he talking about?
Oh my god, like just like stop
Oh to reference back to uh, the tag the tag team feed stuff you were talking about primer, uh, yeah
Leather dad the the leather daddy. It's the leather heads
Here's the leather daddy. That's a new tag team here. I know I started I started calling the leather daddy
Hold on. Hold on here. No, I'm gonna do an idea for you
No, you gotta you gotta bring up my favorite promo if you're gonna do this is when fucking roadblock holds up the belt upside down
upside down, yeah
Are those the uh, are those the plastic idob titles? Those are the fake one the hang on hang on
These look so happy
Do you see it I still got one oh, no shit
Look at that. Hang on. Let me see if I can get a better. Yeah
I'll pull zoom in. That's probably worth some money right here. Yeah
I still have that fucking thing
Are they actually plastic or they just like really really they're hard plastic. Yeah
They don't even stay any company on the top anymore. It just says tag team champion
That's all it said. I only have one line by everybody
Uh, like iwe that was like involved in iwe and see how much you could fucking sell it for I bet it'd go for
A fucking good penny. Well, I know that um, Ricky Williams used to buy all the belts. So maybe
I don't know if he's gonna sell it to me
But that that's just a weird situation we don't have to get into I don't want to sell them
Actually, um
My ecw uh, my ecw heavyweight championship. It's ricky williams
He posted one day. He's like does anyone want this? I was like, uh, right. Yes
Yes, I have the
IW tag team title that the iwe stickers put over the first title I ever won
Uh, he gave me the other half of it. I saw I haven't stored somewhere
A redacted person but they gave me an ecw world heavyweight title and I sold it
Because I was gonna I needed titles for the primer ink show the first one and someone gave me that I was like
I'm not using that. I have new jack on the show
not using
replica belt
I think we use like I think we use like an nwa heavyweight title replica. I think
I don't even fucking remember but i'm like, yeah, i'm not using that. So I sold it after I got it for free because
man, dude
not a belt
My thing is I
I don't build anymore sadly
I actually I get the kids once I guess okay
I don't have any belts. I've won anymore
unfortunately, um
But when it comes to belts what drives me nuts actually is like I don't buy I don't mind the companies
What do you say? Sorry, I was just uh, never mind keep going. I'm not gonna say keep going
I love you. JP keep going. Yeah
Uh
That was ah fuck man, wow, wow, wow that was low blow dude that was low blow
I'm putting in my resignation
Thank you guys, uh Jamie's out now, hey he said it I I could have been the one to say it but I didn't
Anyways, we'll talk about that story one day eventually
Yeah, once we get new belts, let's let's wait until you know, the problem's fixed
Um, anyways tell you story there nix I forgot to say oh
That like no, I don't mind like so
The wbf tag team championships the classic
Are my favorite tag titles ever and that's why I liked winning the three w tag titles because that's guess what they look like
But i'm sitting going like these are basically just the wbf tag team titles. So
Well, I think one of the first wasn't it three w tag titles were yeah, that's what i'm talking about
I think one of the first I believe middleweight belts was um an ic title. I think
I'd have asked neil about that one, but I think that's the one that he had I think it was just an ic belt
The vacation land one was a ic belt or like an actual like authentic ic belt
What the one that I had? Yeah the one you had that was like a like a
Like custom-made ic belt, right? Yeah was custom-made. Yeah, I don't know where that belt ever went on it
But it was like an authentic like do you still have the title?
um
No, no
It's somewhere in the state
Yeah, say it that way somebody has it, you know, you know who has a title that is it's completely
um
the horror
Yes, as the live wire iwe live wire title
It's like the pepperoni championship now. It's stickers over it and it's like his own podcast like promotions
Yeah, I thought malik was the last champion how did he get no horror won it in the scram the last yeah
Yeah, oral was a live champion. Oh, it was like fuck you guys. You may get it back
We have to take clothes right after that. Yeah, um
Primer
I didn't have those
You won that you and you and uh in person. I shall not name. Yeah, I gave him back. I gave him back
Yeah
I don't want those pieces of shit
Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I hold on. No, no, I think I know exactly what happened to those
What those rickies?
They might have been I think those are rickies those are the ones those are the ones vaude bought for um, yeah
I think they worked. I think they were rickies. Yeah, and they wanted him back and I was like, I think I gave it to
Be named it's like here you give it to them. I don't want to deal with that asshole. I'm I'm trying so hard
I want the vacation land tag titles. I want to get so chat epic has won
And ba has the other one i'm trying to get them because I want to paint them
And use them for like a main state tag team
Team championship, you know sure you can probably get one for ba and then chat I could probably snag from at some point between now
Like march
Yeah, and then just like I want to redo the weather and paint them and like be like
Here's the main state tag team titles like at you know, it'd be any tag team in maine
Type thing doesn't have to be what promotion any tag team in maine
Can I help you?
Doing the three tag teams we have in maine right now. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, that's the one that I
The ones that I actually put on
Well pos is gone msp is gone, um, there's eric johnson and alexander lee
And then there's calvin
It's gonna be me and alexander lee i'm gonna be attacking this point because
Like there's already almost like
There at me and me and alexander lee are wrestling, uh the pathway and march. So I mean
Who knows?
Where are you doing that?
genos
Oh, I got the pathway. I don't know. I don't know
I never get to alexander lee with a boot with this buoy and then I came out for the save
Snagged a buoy out of his hands started almost beating the piss out of sam and lee
So i'll tell you probably exactly what i'm doing at the next geno show
Me and someone versus cousin larry and someone
volume seven
Nine actually and you have the johnny promise box. There used to be johnny promise spot. Yeah
Well, yeah, you went over last show
I kind of sort of
No, it's probably gonna be me and dunkey in a one-on-one this time this next time. That'd be nice
I totally forgot smackdown went to three hours now because i'm sitting
Yeah, they they've only said it all episode jp pay fun contention
I have it on mute and just looked over the podcast
That's true
So it's it we haven't uh, we haven't really talked about uh, the uh next show
Uh for mpw do you want to just give the highlights of uh, what we can expect for the next show?
Well, we talked about the the tag match which involves you two gentlemen versus the pathway and the neighborhood for the tag titles
We're gonna have me versus eugene
we've got the six man tag, which is wesley pipes blade bandit and
Shit now i'm forgetting the other guy's name already
ultimate male
huh
The ultimate male. Yeah that guy zane valentine. There we go
versus um black rose alexander lee and eric johnson. We've got white holiday versus landing cross
What i'm doing an open challenge?
Yeah, i haven't gone there yet. I'm going down the card there. Hold your horses, you know the
You know, so I could fight here for the time for his title, too
I mean, it's an open challenge. Anyone can show up
I'll walk away two belts. Why not?
I don't even think you're gonna be walking after the first one. Oh shut up. Wow
Wow
Like what I said white holiday versus landing cross and then we have
Jason maverick versus jimmy limits
So watch your back jp
Yeah, everyone's coming for your belt now. I still haven't got a rematch so I might come in
Yeah, we're all watching you I think i've gotten all the matches I don't remember I might have missed one but
I might uh
I might give a good old um
Uh jakey hessa a challenge challenge for that open weight belt. Oh, yeah crap. I forgot about that one. That's right
Jake has person frankie flash for the open weight title frankie flash. What a return
So you're gonna make me go for the uh, open with jp
You're gonna make me fight jp the the so I get my like hit with chairs and shit
And you're gonna take the easier one. Fuck you. I got has
You already said you got jp
You like that shit. I don't
That's true. I do like that shit. Whatever the octopus man, whatever you want
But i'm gonna still add because um, so it's ten dollar tickets all seats
um
Also, you can meet eugene. He's gonna have photos and stuff
I tried to find a eugene figure in a box and they're a pain in the ass to find so i've been looking
But i'm still looking. Yeah, that's all I was hoping we're gonna get rhino for march because I have rhino hanging on my wall
Like there's one sitting on my wall. So it's like, oh here we go
So
Ten dollar tickets gonna be a new building and you know, there's a lot of a lot of fun
I don't know jp's open challenge person's gonna be so that excites me a little bit. It's gonna be uh ringlore's favorite wrestler joey nails
dear god
You know what? I have 300 friends and the fact that joey nails beat me
I feel like he paid some people off. We lost we lost to fucking hyper uh, to fucking hyper putin fucking um, no
No, no
Fuck not only have we lost the hyper pretend. We also lost mew favorite tag team
Favorite tags with the year to daddy castle and eric johnson
Have they had more than one tag match every no. No, then how are they a favorite tag team?
Friends how is lee miller the wrestler of the year for oh, no
That's just poor count vote counts right there primer. I do have one. I do have one to
Call you out on how the hell is the problem on the uh, the account for favorite tag team of the year
They had one match
I didn't I'm only part owner sir. So I didn't come up with those polls
That was before I had my hand in the in the gravy sauce
So before the last and by the way, I just found a eugene figure on ebay for 20 bucks in package
Well, you better be ordering it
You better get work
Sir, I broke me too christmas murdered my ass i think christmas fucking christmas
Well, I at at my shoot job I have
I work wednesdays and thursdays and usually 10 hour days
But we are closed on christmas and then I only worked a half a day wednesday because it was christmas eve
So that's like 15 hours that was out of this paycheck and i'm like fuck
So yeah christmas see if it's tuesday
Tuesday
Yeah, never okay tuesday wednesday, i'm sorry
I don't know
I was like they all ran together listen. She said
My new job is nice because I get paid for christmas and I get paid for new years
But I don't get paid for the days off around them
Um, so I was planning to go north to see my parents for christmas, but unfortunately they were sick. So
The girlfriend was like no
And I was like, yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, I get sick on my vacation too was pissed
No, no, it's kind of fucking flu. It's like this sucks
And I had to watch my kids I had to watch I had to watch my kids and be sick that's the worst
I was speaking title belts. This is actually a levi question. We forgot to ask primer. What is your favorite title belt?
Like the one i've held or the one of all time. Well any belt any belt from anywhere?
My favorite. Oh, I I really liked and it's weird
I like the wcw cruise away title. I thought it was a pretty looking belt
That's cool one that and it's it's everyone's always like, oh the wing of eagle or so I go like I
Find one that not everyone and I love like some of the wrestling games when they put those belts in because that's cool
That's my favorite one that i've ever seen my favorite one. I ever held was wwe not wcw probably
Our hardcore title, I really like that because uh, I helped design it so
Easy, I like the way today. I'm gonna be joey nails. Sorry. I have to just say this today. Wouldn't be joey nails last comment
What did they
What does it say it says all the time i'm clicking and you're clicking and joey nails taking over the state brother
Everybody is joey nails guy because joey nails guy
Everyone going for the mark
Drinking
That made no sense
No, it makes sense because y'all didn't read it right joey nails taking over the state brother
Everybody is a joey nails guy because joey nails guys
Wow, all right. Okay
That got spicy real quick that did get spicy really quick is that all right is that the belt you're talking about
Yeah, that is yes, yes
Yes, one of my least favorite title belt was and I bet everyone agrees with me
the willow title from tna
Oh
Title at that time too that big silver the blue tna on yeah, gorgeous. Oh god
Oh, it's terrible. Oh, it's so bad. Oh looked it's so bad. Yeah
Some people don't like the fiend belt too. That's I mean, I like
I know I like what I represented. I wasn't a big fan of him carrying it around
But I think a lot of people just like to shit on stuff that's cool, too
Oh my god. Hey neil
So if I ever win the world championship, this is what i'm gonna do the heavyweight title
This is what i'm gonna do watch neil go. I'm sorry what?
Hey, you never know man, you know what i'm gonna get i'm gonna get really really really stoned before a show
And then i'm gonna have an eight second match of sting
All right
All right, if you can get it staying in i'm down
He's probably available now
Yeah, he's probably 20 grand
Yeah, no, no, dude, just he's just walking the door. No, just to put face paint on is 25 grand
Yeah, that surprised me
Yep
That's just a bit face if you have him there at an appearance without face paint
It's like 10 grand
But if you want him to face paint it's 25. What the hell is poking him without face paint like that's the gimmick, right?
I know right
He knows that too. He's not stupid. Yeah, he's like, ah, yeah 25 for face paint. I'm like, i'm sorry how much
I can get like
20 tna guys for that
I go get ready for that for that and I go get the douglies for that shit. Yeah, exactly
Yeah, no douglies were 10 grand
For both
Yeah, i'll take a 3d if you get him up here. I'm not even joking. I am paying 10 grand
Nobody's paid 10 grand
Keep on camera. So what are you talking about? Yeah, I'm still thinking 3d
I mean he could probably do the 3d if he needed him to that's about it
Jake hasn't wrestled in years. He can still throw a ddt
You would have to do a tony atlas match is fucking what he would have to do because yeah, his neck is fucked
Yeah, that's why we didn't want to bring
I mean when we're we're looking when we're looking to bring people in we want them to be able to work a match because
You don't get to see that often enough. You know what I mean? Right? Yeah. Oh, here's a good question. Hold on. There you go
Who was your
Who was uh, who was y'all your most favorite memorable superstar from any promotion?
Who's your favorite wrestler of all time? I think is what she's going for
We're at the hitman heart
Good choice. He's a great guy
Yeah, yeah, i'm trying to think of all that
What I mean it was dig the snake for a long time
But i've been watching a lot of old bread stuff and I really like his work more
Wasn't the best guy but no I was always in shawn guy personally, but that's just me. Yeah, I was always shawn
Yeah, I like them both but I like
People were either stone cold rock and I was always stone cold. I never really i've never liked the rock
I like the rocks promos, but all around it was still cold. He just annoyed me
Like talking to a third person and just it just I don't know. It just annoyed me as a kid
I don't know why
So now that he does it when he's in his 50s, it's even more annoying
Him in the final boss brother listen brother. Listen here brother you
Hey, hogan's what got me into wrestling. He's a piece of shit now, but I
I've always been a piece of shit. What are you fucking talking about? He's always been a piece when I was eight years old
I didn't realize that okay
Public piece of shit
That's it. I was eight years old. I did not realize that hogan was a fucking
racist sexist
Tomaphobic piece of garbage, but now ask andy I got rid of all my hogan figures except for one
If that's how much I'm pissed off at hogan getting rid of them, I hope you mean like you made mad money off of them
Um, I I may have returned them to the store. I just got store credit. So yeah, oh even better
Yeah, i've actually got a story kind of like this so
For the longest time one of my favorite wrestlers especially early like bullet club days and everything was marty scurril. I remember
Dude, I have 25 marty scurril shirts upstairs in a box
Just sitting there. I don't want to give them away and I don't sell them because I don't want anyone else to wear them
And I even have one of the one of the shirts from all in chicago. That was the purple crow
Crow mask that I was like one of my favorite shirts and just sitting in a box upstairs
Just sitting in a box upstairs. This is the one hogan that I have left. Oh god. Hey, I recognize that
Andy found him for me. So
Yeah, they have a stretch you the stretch one
You know this one's not stretchy, you know, no, here we go. How about how okay, uh
What about who showed up in these shows you were on example ricky morton? Uh, ricky was great
He's like the biggest the biggest star like you've seen show up on the show
Oh, okay. That's legit
The big my favorite one that showed up on any of our shows. We gotta go with new jack. I can't pick anyone but new jack
Like it was cool to have kennedy, I mean anderson sorry i'm gonna call him kennedy for the rest of this podcast probably
It was cool to have the talka. It was cool to have dango. We said he would do the podcast
Dude, yeah, he's he was he runs a school. He was tough to get ahold of
Yeah, he said he would do it. Uh, he just just remind him but like i've been busy with everything like and it's christmas and
New year's week. I didn't want to fucking bother him. He might come back so we can try to get that happen again
So yeah, that'd be awesome. Yeah, what about eugene? Damn it
I'd dude eugene is harder to get in touch with than he is
I'll message eugene and three days later. I'll get a response
So at least kennedy was at least a day later each year you hit him up at least minimum three days before the show
Yeah, right. Yeah, I make sure to do that
As a tag team guy keep saying that we gotta get america's most wanted up here
Do they even wrestle still?
Uh harris just had a match not long ago and I know storm's still in the indies
They're gonna draw money
A beer drinking here the cricket anyone got a cricket sound effect because I don't
I think there's six people that know who america's most wanted is right now. Oh, come on james storm, man
You don't think that I want to bring up some of these guys that nobody knows but i'd love to have homicide
No one knows who the hell homicide is anymore
Oh, uh
Yeah
Have it on his personal account on facebook and I talked to him the last icw show I went to and I told I mentioned
Him coming up to maine and he was just like he said he would love to come up to me. So who said that?
outside
All right. Well, so give him my contact. I'll talk to him. I'll let him up because he he had just finished the last icw
I probably just came back to ring of honor too. So
So i'm down like I always like ideas but I have like
Hundreds of emails i've sent out to people that just don't respond and it's annoying and shit
It's I I I understand it's the same thing for it's the same with the podcast. It's like
Like you you get people to come up with like oh i'd love to do a podcast and then it's like cool when then you reach out and
You hit him up. Yeah, you know you never hear of that from a um, okay
I was talking to danny dohring for a while from ecw. He was like, yeah, i'd love to come up and then
He left me on red and that was like six months ago and am I cool? All right, never mind that was really great that um
Was really good communicating back to was uh
um
Chris, uh fuck what was his name?
Penem
Good thanks. I'm good. Oh, oh, okay. No
Yeah, yeah
I had no problem
I don't know. I have no issues with hamrick. I've got a good hamrick story, too, but I just
I don't know. He's
He's a little expensive for not really bringing as much as he should I don't know people are gonna like he lives up here, too
Yeah, I know
But he's expensive for you know, no one really cares about hamrick anymore. It's tough
He's getting the wrestling crowd to come for certain people is tough
Like I wanted to bring in the powers of pain, but I don't think anyone would know who they are. You know, what's dreamer is
How much?
I don't know. I'm asking. No, no, I think we have we have an emo to him
You know who's funny, you know who got back to me the day after I messaged them matt trevon
Okay, so
I'm just saying like
He was previously booked for the date. I wanted him for
When was that march I wanted him in march and he's booked. That's right. Yeah, that's right
He was he got right back to me and i'm like, oh shit. All right
I that's my my dream match is the only thing that's
That I want this year. So I need I need to find a way to make that up
Well, I have his contact now so
My
Years ago and so it's been now it's a few years now
Over in 2025
But yeah, I want to have wanted to come back up here
That'd be nice
That would be nice
Well, I think I think we've uh covered a bunch of stuff
Um, I don't know what else is any other questions for mr. Uh, johnny primer
No, probably not but guess what you should pay your ten dollars and come watch me beat the shit out of eugene because that'll be fun
It's not often you get to see and i'm gonna say it i'm a main original like i'm one of the
Only guys that I I consider me eric johnson alexander lee three of the guys who we all started about the same time
So I consider us like the three main originals really
No
Roblox also didn't start when we did an overblock started as a ref but I get like it's not often you get to see a main original
beat up a ww's
Superstar former superstar or whatever but it'll be fun. I also could see jp's open challenge
You could see you two guys try to get your tag belts back. You know, i'm excited for january. I'm excited for march, too
I mean we've got some stuff happening, but I have to rework the whole fucking card
But i've got some surprises there too because i've been doing it for a long time. I know people from all over the place
So fucking kill your cat in my stream. Yeah
Why are you giving your cat the sleeper hole?
Disabled he can't use his legs. Okay, he's already not functional
He's well, don't fucking make him worse
As you say that pops claws in your face
immediately, yeah
So we can find that uh the upcoming mpw show where?
um
In old town old town parks and rec parks january 24th january 24th
Don't go to the island this time 10 tickets contact neil day on facebook
You can even message me on facebook because I can get you tickets
It might take me longer than him. He has them in his possession, but I can get them for you
And the poster's up all the matches have been announced except for well
If he's because it's an open challenge anyone's welcome to come, uh tango with the hardcore maniac
There you go, and you can find that more that information on their facebook page, right?
Facebook instagram twitter that I need to update that I never i'm sorry x that I need to update that I never do
Oh same here. You can follow us on youtube if you've missed past shows now we've got
But matches up there. Um, someone just made us a nice hype video for the upcoming show. Gee. I wonder who did that
I don't know, but it's pretty good
Just confirmed jp versus joey
Confirm that when i'm six feet under yeah, i'm i'm the booker and I say no
That's the best decision you've made so far buddy i'm proud of you
He will he will walk he will walk out and say I enter the challenge and i'm just gonna hit I got
What i'll just hit him with a tennis racket dude, just fucking roadblock him with a
rumble and uh
Yeah, bring this out i'm okay with that
Oh my god, probably have me pee on you like what the fuck
He said, eugene's gonna peel me like a dog but
He did do that word that I was gonna say you gotta word that a little bit better buddy. Yeah
Yeah, we need some context there sure that wasn't a roadblock typing for him
That's like a roadblock story right there
Speaking of roadblock real quick. So oh dear god, why are we still speaking of roadblock? No, no, it's just funny. So we're
We're at the dojo tonight, right?
It's me maverick joey and stormy and we're calling it a quick little match because we're doing a little uh practice match
All of a sudden I look over the window and I see
Like on the door and all I see is the top of the head. I'm like the hell
So he showed open the door and roadblocks like right here. It was like, uh
Yeah, he's inside like and like him and like two girls walk in and jace is like, what the hell are all these people?
It was just like
Anything around him like yeah common sense reality anything it's just he's just exists in this world and
And there's nothing else around for him. It's the best part
My girlfriend texts me
She's like, holy shit. It's time dozer
Wow shit, uh
Well, thank you, uh johnny primer for being on the podcast. Yeah anything else you don't want to plug before you leave? Um
Um, I will plug ring wars 2 because you know, I like the guy who does that so go check out ring wars 2
February 1st and palmyra
um
Also check out our youtube. I think I mentioned that already check out mpw's youtube
You can also go on and we went through some of the gimmicks of primer
I have a dvd called it's called vintage primer that i'm going to try to make more copies of and it's a bunch of
Old primer shit that maybe i'll start selling. I don't know. We'll figure it out
But if anyone's interested in that send me a message I can make copies of it. I've got one
I also have some old iwb tv that I might drop off of the dojo so you guys can watch that
That'd be dope. Yeah, I think it's
one two and three
I think eric may have given randy a bunch of that too
He might I remember eric gave me some yeah
That's all I really want to plug oxo check out my wife's facebook and tiktok meg lavel the best ring announcer
That mpw has ever had
I got I got at least she's supposed to want her
Yeah, she won because if not, she's gonna get mad at me and you know, here's a great
Yeah, she is she's doing good. She got those teeth pulled, but she's doing good
All right, good. So all right guys, you have a good rest of your podcast
I don't know how long this thing goes tell levi. Thanks for showing up
Kicks me in the mouth last time I do a match with him it doesn't show up. What a bitch
I wish he did because you guys are going back and forth with it. So fucking fun
It would have been fun, but no can't show up for johnny primer something. I need a primer part two with levi actually
Oh, yeah, definitely
We all know that roblox my favorite never forget the time I slapped in the face of 3w show. Yep
I don't remember that but I try to forget every 3w show that ever happened
Yeah, I was only on one show that never happened. I was on
Well, I want to forget all of them. I was on two shows that I never want to do it
I thought scary part of it because I threatened the uh, the owner of the company that never comes up for the shows because
He he I don't know how that whole concept works. You don't even want yeah, it's not a good. All right guys
Thanks again. Have a good night. All right
That was fun
So here we are. That was fun man
Actually, what's what's cool is reyney said this too
He says what he likes about the podcast you come on here and just chit chat. That's all we do
Yeah, so yeah, he said this is what makes us different from other fucking podcasts
It's like we're actually it's like listening to a fucking talk show like type. Yeah
Yeah, and that's how I that's how I always wanted this fucking podcast to be I didn't want to like fucking like
This is the question. This is whatever. This is the news like I want it to be a conversation
That's why I wanted like a bunch of people instead of just by myself to fucking do that. It's too old jones. Yeah
I listened to a lot of taz's podcasts for a while. Oh shit. Oh shit. So I guess we're gonna get actually
You ever hear the story about his medicine square garden? No, go for it
so it has debuted a medicine square garden and
Before and look the crowd knew he was coming out because if you go back and watch it
It's it's a rest wrestling. I think it's summer slam if you go back and watch it
Kurt angle comes out does the open challenge as angle does the challenge is like, you know, we're back there
Whoever, you know, you say you do your three eyes
He's still doing three. I think it's time and come on out and like you hear
They tried to edit it, but they never got it right, but you hear
What is name Howard Finkle and his opponent from the Red Hook district?
And you just hear the crowd just come up and up and up and up
And they were just so hot for taz coming out and taz said he's like in that moment. He knew he screwed
Because it's like if this is my debut and the crowd's hot
They're never gonna stay up for me like for the entire time for me like this
Yeah, and just with wwb what it was because taz was shorter, you know, he's five seven
Even though he could legit throw everyone
There you know, he was like I'm screwed. So that against angle was that his debut? Yeah, it's angle
It's angle. What are the reasons everyone thought he was dangerous?
I guess a lot of the guys getting with the german back like was yeah, it was a german because he said
back down
There's two actually the german because when he threw angle angle jumped
Taz was used to people jumping for him. When angle jumps he went almost all the way over and everyone was like, oh crap
the other one was the belly belly when uh
Taz had him like halfway up and realized they were out of position
So we set him back down reset him then threw him. Yeah, and as someone who does suplexes, i've done that or i'm like
Uh, nope. Okay now we can go, you know, I did that fucking supernova show like a few like
Like a few times ago the guy asked me like what happened the body slam was like well
I didn't want to slam me on your fucking head
exactly
so I repositioned it
so taz knew he was screwed because
He was never gonna get that crowd reaction ever again
Yeah, well, he's also the ECW guy. He was an ECW guy in a in a wwe territory in wwe
And he already had everything out to get him. That's what happened with all those guys fucking first thing in the beginning. He's a rvd
Sephardi rvd. Yeah. Yeah
Dogs when your animal just went insane
Say so I wanted to talk about this last week
But I gave everybody off because I wanted everybody to enjoy their vacation with their family same thing with um with uh, thanksgiving
Everybody took it off. Whatever it had fun
Probably could have done a show last week
But like I said, I wanted everybody to enjoy their time with family and shit like that. Take a week off. Um
CM punk came out in a bathrobe for his show
That's how yeah
I don't know what show this is. I actually have the article put up to know what it was
No, it was uh, I think they were in new york
Yeah, but what is this a house show or is it a house show all house show? Yeah, they're all house shows
They're doing a tour
I think I think the girlfriend looked at me. She said wow, punk's got a lot of faith in that towel
He has shorts on he has shorts on yeah or underwear or whatever the fuck it is
You can see it when he got a surprise that the towel even stayed on because he they do a double
Well, they probably made sure it was gonna stay on they probably taped the shit
So this is this makes me laugh because
I don't know if it was cornet or if someone else told the story by the old days
This would happen occasionally like the baby face would be like in the shower
And then he'll be beating up another baby face. You get a guy going around. He's got soap in his hair
He's like in a towel, you know, so it's like it's a callback, which is very cool
Yeah, and it's like it's the it's like I wrestled Ari in the night before
Fuck him in the shower and my boy's getting his ass kicked. I'm gonna go run out and make sure he's okay
I would do I want to do that skips once like if i'm ever ever baby face that skips
We sit at the bar like having a beer and like all the time and all of a sudden your boy's getting jumped like oh
Shit, hold my beer right when you're having some
Genos for literally I literally sitting at the bar
So cmpunk hilariously saves damien priest at a wwe live event wearing a towel towel and a shower cap
Yeah, so wwe is back on the road after giving talent an extended break for the holidays and cmpunk took this opportunity
To have some cheeky fun in the front of a live crowd in Madison Square Garden Thursday night
So in the main event featured world heavyweight champion gunther taking on uh,
Damien priest in a steel cage, but at some point the cage failed to keep both the uh, dominic mysterio
And look is that ludwig?
Ludwig ludwig
Ludwig from the getting into that action all
As I think even too like I don't I don't know if it was at this one or was it another show where ray
Mysterio came out and beat him with a belt
They uh
It was one of the other shows
And then at some point they had followed the story up and they ended up doing like punk actually had his clothes on
It was like the second or third show in this tour
But like they they all did different things in the main event. Yeah people do
Yeah, ray was like hitting dom with the belt like like who's your daddy?
Exactly. Yeah
So yeah, that's a little cool
Because I didn't know if this was actually because I know the
Don't do a lot of house shows anymore. Yeah, just to save money and they're they're now taping a lot of episodes now
apparently
I'm going into that apparently one of the things that triple h is trying to do is give them a lot more time off
Because you want people to have a real life, you know, like hey, yeah. Yeah, this is work
You know, you're supposed to have a real life outside of this place. Well, that's why I do
Them not working every night makes their bodies not break
Down as quickly either. Well, that's why in the very beginning I wanted to be an aw because you only worked once a week
Yeah, the rest of the time in your fucking family and you only have to go once a week
So maybe you do one pay-per-view a month at that time. I think it was one every three months
Yeah, you just do a
Yeah, and you do a wednesday show. It's like fucking perfect
I'll fucking work once a week and be the rest of the week time with my family 100%
But now it's all shit from there anyways
so
This monday getting ready for netflix raw
The best fucking promo I think i've heard in quite a while they're calling it the promo of the year
Which is hilarious for the january
Yeah, like this is again seth wallace and punk and they bring up
This shit again my god
No, it's all it's all good I I cut it already a lot
Yeah, I'm not sure what it's called
It's all good. I I cut it already a lot last episode of monday night raw in 2024
Last episode of monday night raw on the usa network. What do you say we go out with a bang?
One week from tonight the biggest fight in our sport
10 years in the making the voice of the voiceless
Voiceless versus the visionary the second city saint versus the monday night messiah
The self-proclaimed best in the world
Versus the real best in the world
Oh boy one on one with seth freaking raw
And here's the deal
After next week, you know where you're gonna be able to find me
I will be here on monday night
I will be here the monday after that the monday after that the monday after that
I will be fighting in this ring because that's what I do, but if things don't go see him punks way
You can't say the same for him
What's he gonna do?
He's gonna cry about it
He's gonna whine about it
Maybe he'll take another 10 years off pick up his ball go home
They've hit
Took his ball and went home the most industry plant cliche bootlicker line i've ever heard
Before we get into this too, I love it how like
my biggest problem when people went after john cena they just
Pick the lowest fucking fruit
You know like it's like oh you're not actually here whatever blah blah blah blah like you're a part-timer or whatever wrestler your movies or shit
Like all that shit
this promo
They're actually digging at each other from fucking shit that you didn't think that they were allowed to talk about
It's like oh
Oh, we're gonna get into it
Did you get that from huh?
Who originally said that that wanted to turn the people against the boys when he got told no
Or when he got told you're wrong
Did stone-cold steve austin take his ball and go home?
You know, I haven't seen the man around these parts in quite some time
Did she take her ball and go home too?
Or is it just me seph you want to tell these people that I turned my back on them. You want to tell
15 000 strong in houston that I abandoned them
When in reality you just want to cry because I
Abandoned you I was sick and tired and I left this place and you stayed and you ate it
We both made our choices. We both made our decisions. I have no regrets
None I don't want to talk about the last 10 years. Let's talk about the last 10 months seph
Come on. How's your neck? Good. How's your knee net? How's that knee?
How's your insides because I watched big bronson reed hit you with six tsunamis
How's your pride because you didn't get a monocle of revenge on him and you saw me break his ankle in war games
self-proclaimed
best in the world
Yeah, because I believe in myself
Self-professed martyr you're damn right
I came back. I didn't want to make friends. I said very publicly. I'm here to make money and next week
Oh, baby. I get to make a boatload of cash making you the victim you so badly want to be little brother
Got that crazed that line against a gas brother crap that don't work no more
You know the difference between you and everybody else that left. They actually did leave. All right, my wife
She's taking a break to raise a kid. I know you don't know what that's like stone-cold
He said it was the biggest mistake he ever made he understands about change
All right, you you left you wanted this place to die with the echoes of those CM Punk chants
You went on your buddy's podcast tried to tear this place down
When that didn't work you took every single shot you could to try to kill this place and you still couldn't do it
And then you took a big chunk of change to go join the competition how that worked out for you you
You want to call me a?
Martyr non-man I never felt bad about anything that I did. I never felt the shame
I fought and I stayed because that's how revolutions are made
All right, that's how they're made
They're made in the trenches not by cowards who abandon their families you stay in the trenches you fight
That's how we win the war and we won the war and you want to come back in here
And you want to wave the flag with us no way
You can't big brother me anymore because I'm the damn big brother
So you will you will take another ten years off after the six, but it's not gonna be a decision you make
It's gonna be one I make for you. You can recognize the pioneers because of the arrows in their back. I
I was the first one through the wall, and I got bloodied for it. You wouldn't be here if it wasn't for me
I love the place. I worked
I just hated the guy in charge and he loved you and in situations
Where you should have had my back alls you did was shoot arrows in it
And then I leave and the woe and behold he shows his true colors
And he stabs Roman Reigns in the back and now he's dressed like an idiot trying to play victim in a situation that he
created those arrows
kill weak people the greats
Above all odds find a way to march forward and I left because I had to and I got far enough away
Until those arrows couldn't reach me anymore and after a few years
I started to be able to pull him out and after a few more years
I pulled them all out and
I came back because for seven years they chanted mostly during your television time my name
I should be dead Seth, but I'm not an oh
Aren't the arrow throwers mad?
next week
Those same arrows that were supposed to do me and I carry to this day and I'm walking in the LA
Netflix live in a living color with a fistful of arrows and I'm gonna jam them down your
corporate throat
You know, I've never said this to your face
Maybe once upon a time you were a pioneer
What you have become is a cancer. You are a cancer
To that locker room. You are a cancer in my brain
You are a cancer to this business and cancer does not cure itself
The only way to defeat it is to cut it out
So in one week you bring your fistful of arrows
I'll bring my eyes of fire and my heart full of hate and rage
And I will burn you to the ground
Boom
Wow Wow, how about that for a fucking promo? Holy shit
such a good fucking promo pull a
Put anything within the last
Ten maybe fifteen years as far as a promo
You could even put that up against the rock and the first rock and see in a promo in 2011
Doesn't even meet threshold like honestly. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That was such a good
like I I
I didn't hate where I didn't hate
Where I worked I just I didn't the guy really I
Yeah fucking up the quote that he tries that I was trying to say I hate the guy in charge
But he loved you. Oh my god such a fucking killer law was the the competition line in there
I didn't know if I had a competition line was in there. Yeah, that was the you know, they're
Drawing the line. Hey
Hey, hey nice. Hey
Hey, you watch yourself I'm sorry that we can only listen to audio of
promos from cotton from WWE and shit because apparently
flow
apparently
YouTube doesn't like it when you play their shit. So I don't feel like getting copyright strike. So
But yeah all fire promo like
The only one that I could think that is that even on that close to that level is fucking MJF and CM Punk
When they were fucking back and forth each other
I'm trying to see what Turner put as a comment. I can't quite tell
Just was this snores snoring
Yeah
We only got so much man
My phone is going to buzz like 10 seconds like you're unbooked forever
Well, that's okay because I'm not even booked for the next show so
I get to beat up Stormy. Yeah, I don't think I'm booked for the next show
Maybe I am and I am from what I remember. I am a
Special enforcer for the evening. I guess I'm protecting Turner's livelihood
Apparently his life is in danger when the pathway is running around so okay
I'm uh, yeah
These diesel
So, yeah, just WWE is just fucking putting out fucking bangers
lately they
They still have some shit on the show I'm not gonna say everything's perfect
But it's it's still something that you can sit down and enjoy watch the New Day shit is fucking hilarious
Every single time they try to talk the crowd is just booing the shit
Just
Like the Dom had the same heat and now it has gone
Because that doesn't happen to Dom. Fuck you heat like
You turned your back on Big E. That's like Roman Reigns after the Undertaker fuck you heat
If you guys have noticed with Dom lately though, it's starting to switch ever so slightly
Oh, yeah, you're starting kind of like they're booing it but it's kind of like that
We like you boo, you know like boo this guy cuz we're supposed to but he's okay. You know, it's it's that so
Yeah, it's fucking what's that
So, uh, I'll give you a subject to talk about in the meantime a peanut is neither a Pete nor nut
Sorry about that. I was chatting with my wife got home. Uh-huh. Um
So yeah, that's it's crazy shit going on with
WWE
I'm trying to think of anything else
I thought for some reason Rhea fucking won the title back but oh, they're scheduled for odds Rhea and Liv for the title like the
Yeah, yeah
In case anyone hadn't been watching tonight, but breaking news Tiffany Stratton is now your women's
Champion so for
I was just like what's up?
I just looked over and I was like sorry with the briefcases boring. I wonder what's going on TV
And I just like casually glanced over and I go she's doing the thing with the briefcase again, it's fine
Next thing I know she literally is just bopping
Naya Jax with the with the actual
Briefcase and I was like, okay
Is this is this happening and next thing, you know, one two three next thing, you know
So I didn't know if you if you saw this
No, but that's okay
You've already fucking dead at dirt and dirt
I'm not gonna pull up
No, but that's okay
I said go ahead. Go you've already fucking dead at jerk. Jamie go ahead and put it up
The cult yeah
Just yeah, the radar superstar Adam Copeland is very wordy
But I'm thinking if I'm looking at it and I go Oh cope versus Mark's just sounds versus my brain again. I'm fucking
Terrible. No, it's fucking terrible. No, I think I
Think Tony wanted a name that was a little more edgy
Well, like I can understand there's so many Adams on the fucking show as it is so I can understand why he would want to change
It but cope is just so fucking bad and that's we read by both you guys in it. It did
Yeah, a little more edgy. Oh
ha ha
I'm thinking I think shut up bitch. Oh
Cats go to soundboard
I'm thinking Vince McMahon slipped himself into a into a writing meeting
And wrote our we're gonna put him as we're gonna put his cope
We call well, I just shit
Was it like three or four weeks ago we found out that a w read did the edge copyright
So I'm wondering if they are a which was trying to get it and then it ww's like
No, no, no, no, probably what happened. Yeah, they're probably like hey, we can get this. It's coming up in a week and the way to be like
No
and so
Fans respond to the latest at Adam Copeland a w new chill
Yeah, right
So the while the former this is from Newsweek while the former two time a w tna tna tnt
Catman
My
Might be one of the more beloved wrestlers currently working
It turns out the audience might not actually be all that big of fans of the new name
Really? Yeah, so we got um
Let's see right here some tweets Adam Copeland probably thinks
The name cope is the coolest thing ever. He doesn't have the internet
Adam Copeland has three of the worst pro wrestling names ever ever edge is terrible name Adam
I feel like edge Adam Copeland sounds like your neighbor and cope was just come as a
Shit, what does that word? I clicked it
I clicked it Comically that was supposed to be comically bad. I laughed my ass off 12 probably. Yeah
12 time champ a world champ that's whatever whoever cares. I'm Copeland name changes to foreshadow in the spring yard zone in 1991
If you guys want to something like really stupidly fun so
Gangrel right back with the brood starting so gangrel was a vampire clan from a game game called vampire the masquerade
There are two other clients from that from that book there's actually eight other clients, but I digress
But there's another clan is called the bruja and the bruja are like the bike Raja fightier guys, right? What was edge when he debuted?
The fucking he's like the the the quiet ragey fighter guy, right? Right?
The other another clan or he hurt somebody in his debut. Yeah, that was an accident though
Another clan was the was it were these really pretty guys with long flowing hair
They usually wore like puffy shirts and they were the call the torridors. What was Christian?
Literally the brood was supposed to be a vampire
The whole vampire thing right now. It's great. Yeah, I
used to
Larp that's why I know that he used to Larp
back in the day
Back in my early 20s
Back in the before time back before you had to dive the holes to dive into the hole to avoid the plague
That was a weirdo street, but anyway, I
Was yeah there was that drink. I
Don't know if you if you know this what I was trying to say before fucking
JP jump the gun and played something. I didn't want to play
Even your cats like what the fuck
I
Don't know if you if you know this what I was trying to say before fucking
That's just word you even your cats like what the fuck I
W W removes current a W star from history
Jericho no
Dean Ambrose
So apparently people have noticed
yesterday that a lot of
The Dean Ambrose shit has been cut from their like their history like anything that had
Dean Ambrose in their thumbnail has
Everything
So I don't know what maybe because they kind of left in a bad term type thing
Where this whole Death Rider shit is why you get this guy here?
I'm gonna drink blood murder babies and kill your mom and you know stab your dog and I'm badass
Yeah, it's like dude. No first of all. No second of all
Yeah, could you imagine though like okay? This is one of those things you are what you're a kid for the first time ever you're watching
Say you're going through the network. Yeah, I don't know the networks doesn't exist
But say your peacock right because Dean Ambrose guy looks pretty cool like I like this stuff right cool Dean Ambrose
All right, you're you know the ten-year-old kid you're like cool. All right. I'm gonna Google Dean Ambrose
Oh, he's now John Moxley in this other person called a W. All right
I'm gonna fire up max and we're gonna check out this
EW all right, I'm gonna fire up max and we'll check out this John Moxley guy. Yes, dad
We're talking drinking blood what the hell's this?
Yeah, WDV is like no no we don't want anything to do with that so it's saying earlier today
WWE official YouTube channel scheduled a video titled WWE raw full matches marathon
highlighting some of the best matches in the in the red brand's history a
Fan noticed that John Moxley was cropped out of the videos thumbnail because the video thumbnail was to shield
Which it's Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins
I have it literally pulled up on the thumbnail of it sitting on my TV right now it literally shows
Roman and Seth and then the new raw logo is to the adjacent right of it right there. Yeah
Yeah
That's wild. Yeah. Yeah, that's missing something. There's something missing here
And I think it said that they've noticed it wasn't that wasn't the only
Thumbnail that they saw that Dean Ambrose was taken out of and I think there was even videos been removed of Ambrose
So yeah, that's uh, that's crazy. So I got I gotta laugh there you go
Yeah
Was that
Little bit show up anywhere
He'll ready to show up and be like, oh the pathway I'm
Yeah, or fucking attack me while I'm fucking not paying attention
Someone is
All right. I love to try and do that shit to me here. I got dogs guns and plenty of
outdoor space to put him six feet under them. I
Literally three minutes away from the ocean
What the the the Ellsworth inlet is for like over across the street
Where this body come from
There's a body
Where's
Week so there is so there's been rumors going around for John Cena's last match cuz he's announced that this is the last year
that he would be touring with WWE and
Apparently there's from rumors that he's gonna be facing Logan Paul
If Vince was booking this it would be him in Goldberg because Goldberg also is retiring this year. Oh, he is
Yeah, if Vince was booking this shit, that's the last match would be
It would be him in Goldberg with him going over Goldberg because ah fuck fuck WCW. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, that's what they did with fucking Triple H and stings. Oh, yeah
You probably knew Triple H when he heard the yeah H you're going over I'm doing what now
You know, you know he was kind of like
Do I have to?
It's think man. You know, I'd like to it's a
And according to Dave mounts her report because he's never wrong
He's never wrong Cena is likely to face the undisputed WWE champion Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania 41
Yeah, no
No, it's gonna be Kevin Owens versus Cody Rhodes. They're they're building that fucking story for that reason
They would not fuck does Kevin win the rumble the question. Mmm
Well, I guess there's rumors that punk that they want to put a title on punk
So he probably would he'd probably win the rumble go against Gunther win the championship and then it'd be Seth versus
punk at WrestleMania what if what if
Seth won the title back from Gunther elimination chamber that it was punk
It's Seth but Seth of the title title or you know, I I I don't I don't know if they would make
Win that's the thing. I think I think Seth would go over on that match
So, yeah, so this is
crazy that they
Talk about what's seen as a last match and some people apparently saying that the maybe the Rock because there's
Communications with the Rock doing one more
Another WrestleMania, but I think honestly think that would be more Roman Reigns versus the Rock probably for WrestleMania. Oh, yeah
either night one or night two, yes
100% because they wanted to do that
Last year, so right and then what the fans took over
Mm-hmm
The fans pulled a Daniel Bryan literally you think about it that happened a decade ago. So
Who knows what's gonna happen ten years from now?
Like you had Daniel Bryan then Cody who knows that being ten years, right?
joy
I believe in your hand, Ray
We're all white and way off for could be
Exactly. Exactly. So, um
we were talking a little bit about AEW earlier and
World's end came up. I actually saw highlights of world and it was actually not bad. It wasn't it wasn't bad
Especially Willem Osborne. He's always amazing talent
at
the end of the show MJF goes over on Adam Copeland and
John Moxley's crew
Adam Copeland Adam Cole. Sorry. Oh, that's why this way
Exactly exact reason Adam Cole
Shit I'm dumb
I'm really dumb. I'm kind of retarded
So
Oh, wait, that's right you lost and it took me a whole entire army just to beat me up
Typical
Well, finally finally the chapter of better than you baby of my career finally
2024 comes to a close mercifully
It's time for the next chapter my friends now now it's time for retribution
See
Something was taken from me
Something that I did not lose fair and square is
Now being paraded around in a briefcase
By a man who walks around claiming he's the king of these lands
Well dictator John I got a question for you, buddy
What's a king to a god
Because ain't nobody and I mean ain't nobody
Nobody knows that better than you a Johnny boy
See John I don't got a problem with you for all I care you can burn this entire company to ashes
All I want is my championship and I don't give a damn who has it
But I am getting it come hell or high water
Because 2025 the devil gets his due
Part two
I
Wonder if he's in communications with punk about that shit because a lot of it is like punk related
The first with the fucking slut and clap in the hands the first half of their promo. I was getting a lot of Bane vibes
Just the way that he was talking I was like
It just sounded like but if you want if you want
If you watch the promo though, it's it's a lot like the gestures
It's a lot like the gestures is a lot of fucking punk a lot of Ring of Honor punk
So I'm wondering if cuz like he did a interview. I
Can't remember who and somebody asked him about punk and he had nothing but good shit to say about punk
So I'm wondering if he's like bouncing ideas off in them or even like going to the old
Fucking years from now
Yeah
Wow, oh, buddy, what's up?
So, yeah, no
I wouldn't be surprised if he's they're even going into the archive of Ring of Honor and just fucking watching that old shit of
old punk shit like that I
Just want MJ have to go to WWE
Yeah
Like say so much money in a W say say punk is going back to our way to watching old punk
MJF, right?
MJF is going back to our ways watching old punk. There we go
It's legit think about it because like think about like what we do like like, okay, I want to watch
I've been on some mojo kick lately and
Like I've been watching a lot of Joe stuff
But that's the thing is as you watch these guys and girls and you start emulating pieces of them, you know
you're like, oh I
like the way he patterns this style like
Right on those certain things like his interviews like and you like to try to end like I know cat
You're a huge punk guy. So like your as you do interviews
You're gonna try to pattern yourself a little bit like punk you like I like the way he does this here
So let's try to do that. Maybe I'll make it my own in the same way and I bet MJF is doing that
He's like I like the way he does this but I'm gonna make it my own
I try to structure my promos like the same way that punk does, you know, cuz it's it's it's different
It's not like my name is this guy. We're gonna do whatever
I'm like kind of trying to like tell a story on January
That was one of the things that Jimmy Jacobs like talked to me about it goes he goes I like how you're doing this
It's fucking different, you know, like tweet this shit, but I'm doing that like
Anytime I've done a promo I try to I try to
Especially now I've gotten more comfortable doing them. I try to not be like, you know on October 12th
We're gonna go out to Vancouver and we're gonna
Yeah, but you know like like JP said like you're like you just said you try to build the story around the promo
I write, you know, you took something for me. We're coming back to get it
That is another I got a promo for a PW and I'm thinking about that
Yep, we gotta do one. You're gonna do one. I actually might do that promos my promo calling out anyone who wants to
Open an issue challenge, you know a challenge. I can't say
Whose fucking idea was to do this at nine o'clock, you know, Jesus Christ
To agree to do it or join it because that's true. That's true anything else outside of
People
That's true that is you know, it's it's funny like how much you're okay
So like 95 percent of my life revolves around wrestling my wrestling friends
Like I go like I have my real friends that they're all my friends, but you know, like my old friends
I still hang out with occasionally like that. I've been talking to you idiots
Yeah, exactly. I exactly same way
The only thing that I ever do a wrestling was is one of my shows and then if I'm not it shows it's I'm working
And I'm home and I have my kid and that's it like so this is my only other like extra
you know sort of thing with people is
because during the week it's I see the same people every day at work and I go home and I'm by myself and
And that's five days a week. So
Yeah, yeah
Completely understand yet. Yeah the same way it's like
Text my other friends and then jump on fucking the person chat and let's fucking shit on each other
So we do this all we do is shit on each other
We should call this the shit sessions no the reason why I was called purse essence because they're supposed to be a relaxed podcast
Talking about wrestling but all we do is
All we do is fucking yell at each other
Do the minute you said that was made for Levi to like manifested you back
I bet you he's out cold and the fucking like he's gonna wake up at like fucking like
Like what was he's like three hours behind from us? Yeah, you're gonna wake up like at midnight with us jumping off
He'd be like fuck the podcast
It's only a 30 at the right now for them so yeah, I bet you he's out fucking call. He's just like
You just he's having the
Yeah
He said he's having the greatest dreams right now until he wakes up and realized that he fucked up
He fucked up
It's like the day he got on but his screen was just black and like
And also like a we'll put that a backstage and he's been he just vanished. Yeah, I think
Let's see we we got a few more before we like go no Nick no Nick support tonight
I can't find the damn thing. It won't load right. That's you kidding me. You can't find a Google. You can't Google it
I don't care enough to just don't do a breakdown. Just Google and see what the numbers are. Hold on. Hold on
I get well we got still got plenty of we still got two more things to talk about
Alright, they sucked. There you go
Yeah, I mean, yeah, then it's like actually no, I think the numbers were high this week
High as in 700 I think it was like 700 something wasn't it? Yeah
Well, I'm looking at a W dynamite for the first and it's not 700. No, no this not really
Yeah
Five hundred eighty thousand really I could
It was the week
My
Okay, hold on hold on so dynamites five hundred eighty eight thousand rampage are we doing this now
Sure, I'm just gonna do this real quick. Uh, right. Are we doing this?
If you shut up, I'll finish I
Don't know if I need to hit the stinger now
Actually collision on the 21st was the biggest one Jesus
Cuz collision on the 21st is six hundred and thirty five thousand. Are you shitting me? Yep
They're usually around the two hundreds. They fucking killed it this week day before Christmas. No one's doing anything
I guess that's true, you know, but still but still that's fucking good. They're usually around like two hundred thousand
Yeah, considering the dynamites were five hundred eighty eight it beat him by almost a hundred thousand that's crazy breaking news
Breaking news PW insider reports of the
2026 for a rumble premium love event will be international and will take place the Saudi Arabia
Yeah, don't you see you know what they're gonna do it's gonna be a 40 it's gonna be a 40
It's gonna be the greatest row rumble. Yeah
Here's a broad dependence belt finally. Here's the thing. I'm gonna here's my hot take. Oh
Here's my hot take
Clause
I don't want to do a business with any country that can basically do whatever they fuck they want
With you you literally I don't know if it's still the same thing
But you literally sign a contract before you leave to one of these countries saying hey
Something happens to you
You're on your own. We're not doing anything. Remember on your own. They got stuck in one of the
On that was my other point my first thing like what I'm not no longer gonna be doing business with you is when you've
Threatened and keep a plane with all my fucking wrestlers. Yeah, you're at your airport cuz you can
Yeah, I know it's challenging and shit like that
I understand but for the longest time woman there used to be a list that used to go
Cats and then women were underneath that like they were treated absolutely like garbage like
stoning and like
It's not a great place to be they fucking throw gay people off a fucking building shit like that
It's not it's not a good place to fucking be here's the problem and I know this is what happened
So WWE was like we're not coming back unless you give us this
ridiculous number and I'm talking like
Multiples of zeros right and the Saudi government probably went okay, and then TKO and WWE oil
They have oil. Yeah, they have a
Stupid amount of money. Yeah, of course. Yeah world. Yeah, dude
It's like the the game of glacies story where you talk to like send them a ridiculous number
And then get that is very just like gave they gave us the number that's games like I guess we're going to Saudi Arabia
That's my favorite story. It's like
He could have literally just looked at me like you're mine. He was like, it's like there's my Tigers. There's my tag wars. There's my Mexican
that
I
Sorry is like he's like Falcon and gave me games like that's cool. He's like what what yeah
It's like think bitch you think I'm lazy now. I have a
redhead
Yeah, so that's
and like
It's just even at the live events at the live events woman the the female wrestlers have to head to toe
And gear in like was it the last show they were throwing water bottles at them while they're fucking performing
Yes
Was it the pay-per-view is it we're all the next is a role is it I can't remember which one but it's like
It's like it's not a fucking country. You want to fucking perform in
Say there's a lot of time
They can literally pull you aside and put and put a bullet in your head and you can't fucking do anything about it
That's not a place. I want to fucking be no
Sammy Zane wouldn't go there for right because he there his religion. Yeah
I don't know why he went last time or what change I yeah, I don't know either same thing with Kevin Kevin
We was wearing that quick. He saw see me come out with this real color is like I
Was like he's really reppin
He's standing strong right it's right. It's like
It's it's it's rough like uh, but did you guys see this was really cool
unexpected that
Some WWE talent wins to be fair
So yeah, people did throw water bottles
This is back though in
2019 is the first one and to be fair Lacey Evans, so you know whatever
Take her right in the head man
Wow
Wow, but still it's it's just it's not it's not a fucking place. You want to fuck work
I think they definitely gotten better since then
Well, yeah, the the guy that is in charge now
He's more for rights and but at the same time the guy that's in charge killed the fucking
Apparently allegedly
Yeah, allegedly killed the news reporter that was that was you know digging up dirt against them
Oh, hold on if any people from the Saudi government are listening. I don't live in no what copyright strike there
So it doesn't fucking it doesn't matter. Oh, that's right. We get copyrights
We get copyrights back there all the time. So it's okay
So he's trying to watch us here what the fuck is this shit
Oh my god, I guess and fucking fucking Saudi guys like they send people to fucking Trump anyways
That's right, that's the only political thing I'll ever say on this fucking channel we're not going
We're not going to do that because joke about me was the worst joke ever
Anyway, we're gonna get so fucking kicked up YouTube
Let's not you boys
Get pissed so I'm gonna just appear in our houses
So a moss and his tag team partner they won the no
Oh god can't don't commit suicide this podcast is just going off the rails now
We got the highlights for that fucking that match for that hopefully won't turn it seems bored now
It's like gone like left field, you know, yeah, exactly
Your legs don't work. Why are you trying to commit?
This and we're struck
It's a highlight so that's why I'm hoping that we're not going to be so we'll find out it's Noah
New Japan fucking fucking copyright strike me so
And this guy attacked that to the head
And this guy attacked that to the big guy the big guys like I'm big wonderful girl
I like the low part and just fucking
Go for a splash German can't do it. You know that punch. Yeah, right, bro. When did she kill and you'll start wrestling, you know
Punch the gut I like how they kept his size in this like kept him a big boy
That camera school
Yeah, when New World does it it looks like garbage, but hey
Dude did you ever see the camera for the last supernova show?
No, there was no
No, there was it was awful. It was like an eye is like a
144 P and then to a 1080p like it kept on switching back and forth to it. Yeah
Oh shit to really good to shit to really good like it's like whoever's doing the handcam like had a freaking flip phone from like 1984
right
That's okay
Ever and see that is dope the fucking claw to the apron to the fucking throw them in that is fucking awesome. Oh
Yeah, it's like you would have you would have thought that supernova was like, oh we're not gonna fucking use the other camera
We're just gonna focus on the main one. That was a whiff kit. That was
That wasn't either jeez
I
Love it how a W has the same types of fucking cameras and they always like like fall off the the the turnbuckles
Yeah, flip right fucking off of them
Oh nice Buzak knee right there
Or fucking bicycle kick. I don't know what the fuck that was. Oh
Right there
Well, it looked like he kind of he kind of like did like a kind of like a
Switch with that. That's why I didn't know if that was exactly it or not. Oh that flying back elbow is nice. Yeah, that was
Triple H spine buster right there, they knew Matthews and somewhere screaming right now, right?
So my shit this was cool on top to a fucking frog splash
Breakup
Almost is like you to the fourth row. This is gross right here picks up choke slam to the apron. I
Thought he was going for a pedigree right there
Like it yeah
That one was was hockey knee right there
That one was was hockey knee right there. Am I watching Levi's Spade match? Yeah, you're
Catch
And
Choke yeah, same thing Matthews and some are very upset. Yeah, right. He's stealing all your shit like he stole all my shit you fucker
Yeah, that's pretty cool I put the belts on the W
Has this shit to be fair
Just kidding I was doing it for you fuck you you were actually doing it before me I
Kind of stole it from well, no cuz we did it once in class
I'm like I'm not gonna do this and I fucking hit it once like fuck. Yeah, I'm gonna do this
Hey you doing that thing cool. All right, I'm gonna do this thing
You're not gonna do it
I do it. I do have to say one of my favorite moments we've ever had with that was at the Turner show
when cats about to do it you're you stand up and
I do it for you
So many potatoes
Lee why you fucking punching the shit out of me, dude, what the fuck
I'm getting ass just immediately requires
No, his back was fucked he fucked his back up in his man
So he thought it was okay to say boss to people well because and then the rumble like he kept on getting his back hurt
You know, you you would probably would say hey, don't fucking hit my back, please
Or whatever speak up
I was like that's my favorite rumble ever because of one thing I walked in and dunk you at the hit me as I hold up
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He just kind of went what and I was like I don't have a beef with you
I've a beef with these two. It's our you done Matt and Sam. I was like, don't hit me donkey
Just and then I wouldn't I would let anyone actually like I barely got hit that entire rebel
I kept selling the corners or no one was to ask just gonna like I'll say it over here
Oh, it's so many potatoes I fucking threw potatoes Sam Lee's fucking through potatoes me
Fucking I'm sure I potatoed someone in that fucking JP gigged himself
Everybody in the back thought you did it was so funny
I look over everyone's bleeding. I'm like
What the hell is this?
I'm like, what the hell is this?
It's a King's fame movie
Jesus Christ
It's like why am I fucking bleeding holy shit
I'm over here like I'm like what's going on?
I'm like right
I would have killed him
I'm digging my thumbnail above my eye you know
So do I want to do I want to talk about this or do I want to go to the next clip?
I'm just I'm thinking what do we have for time?
My tired eyes say go to the living room
Yeah, I was just gonna say what do you guys like fantasy book wise?
What what kind of matches you guys want to see but we'll skip that we'll do that some other time
Yeah, you had me more brain matter
Right I was gonna say I had them all written down you guys probably like
Yeah, that one
Real quick real quick are we talking like all time or we're talking like now?
Fantasy booking whenever
Fancy booking fantasy booking any stage
Oh my god
Any wrestler any wrestler
I give you one right now
What what almost happened?
Shawn Michaels vs AJ Styles
There you go
Can I have beer money versus Motor City Machine Guns one last time?
Okay
That'd be awesome just because I just because I I'm kind of a mark
But I really would love to see FTR versus MSP
Oh
That was such a good fucking match
Such a good fucking match
FTR versus the Midnight Express
That would be a good match too
Oh my gosh
That would be a fucking both best match
Like I'll just do what I'll just since we're talking about I'll just read what I had written down
Kevin Owens versus MGF
Yeah, that'd be good fucking match
Yeah, that'd be a good fucking match
Promos would be killer
Yeah, Malachi Black versus Finn Balor
Demon Finn Balor
Ooh
I actually looked that up
I thought they had a match in NXT but they haven't they haven't wrestled yet
Only if we get Malachi Black to NXT music
Yes, yes
Seth Rollins versus Jon Moxley
Can I add one to that?
Mine is one that was Tyler Black versus Jon Moxley
Let's just do it upright
Let's just do Seth Moxley and frickin' Roman and just have the shield fight
But I said Seth I said Jon Moxley because the new Moxley like his fucking
I'm gonna stab dogs and drink babies
Well none of that fucking good shit
But his style wrestling is I like the style
It's a little bit more aggressive than it was in WWE
I like that kind of style
It's because there's no one there to produce him and they just let him go crazy
Heyo
Hi hello person
What was that?
And then of course I said this before but I actually had the names now
The bloodlines
Roman Reigns bloodline
Roman Reigns, Jimmy Oso, J Oso, Sami Zayn
Oso
I might have
Versus Solo's bloodline
Solo, Sokota, Tama Tanga
Tanga
I'm sorry too
Jesus fucking Christ
Yamatanga, Tanga, Tanga
And Jacob Fatu
Versus The Rock's bloodline
Which is The Rock
AFA Junior
Alpha
Zilla
Fatu
Holy shit are you having a stroke?
I am apparently and Big Juicy
Oh I read Big Juicy as just like New England Big Juicy
I was like why does he become part of the fucking
No no no
Did you see out there with like a little bottle of apple juice like
Apparently I'm having a stroke as well because I can't fucking read so
And then of course I talked about last shows
CM Punk versus Kenny Omega
Oh my god
Fucking Omega would be good yeah
I'm so tired
Alright we're gonna go through a bunch of clips now
We're gonna do the easier part and then we'll go to the botches
Because we technically did the next report already
So Cody Rhodes was on the Two Bears One Cave podcast
I don't know if you guys know that one
It's with Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer
Big comedians in the space selling out arenas shit like that
They host a podcast
With each other with a bunch of guests
I think this is the second time they've had a wrestling guest on
I think the first one was Ric Flair
They might have had other ones I can't remember
But Bert Kreischer is a humongous wrestling fan
Tom is not
Tom has actually had some shots back at him for the things that he said about wrestling
So I think he's changed his mind about a bunch of that shit though
But we're gonna get into it with starring off the podcast
With Cody Rhodes talking about Mike Tyson
It's with Mike Tyson and I will treasure this moment always
He was a, gosh I think he was just ringside for a match of mine
He was presenting the championship after the match
But he saw other wrestlers backstage
And he seemed very, and I don't wanna say out of it
Because he was the sweetest, wonderful person
It was very nice to talk to him but he wasn't saying much
And he just kinda seemed to be
I guess deer in headlights a little bit
And he's watching all these guys oil up
And they're using the bands and they're pumping up and all that
And he just looked at me
And I'm getting ready to go out
And at the time I was also in a management position
So I'm directing something, some shot, something
He looked at me and just said
Do I need oil?
And I, those are those moments where it's like
It's Mike Tyson
I want this relationship to be good
So I'm in my mind thinking what's he thinking?
Does he think he does need the oil?
Well then I said yeah, sure, sure
And then so he took his shirt off
So now Mike, Mike never had to have his shirt off for this
Mike's standing there just looking at me with his shirt off
I remember he had like no belt on his jeans too
It's just a lot happening
This is the greatest fighter potentially ever
And someone I really, really like
But he just took the bottle and kinda went like
You do it
To me
And he put a little on his hands
And he puts them on his chest
But then he turned around
Sure
So just oiled him up
And you know he looked good
I've put oil on another wrestler before
This wasn't the strangest thing
But the weirdest thing was right after that
He just threw his shirt right back on over it
No
And I thought
That's not the point of it
What was the point?
Are you pre, are you prepping?
For you take the shirt
A lot of wrestlers might think at this point I'm gonna rip my shirt or whatever
But you're not doing anything like that tonight
And I do think he actually got his shirt off at one point
But yeah, I oiled him up
I always felt good about that decision
To oil up Mike
That might be the best story that's ever been told in his pocket
That's fucking fantastic
That might be my favorite fucking story ever
What kind of person would I have been to say
No Mike
What the actual fuck
That's good but I still say my favorite Cody stories are the ones he told about The Undertaker
Oh yeah
The rumble
Yeah
And he's like oh god this guy's gonna beat the piss out of me
Throw a drop kick
Like oh
He's like yeah all this stuff happened
And it was like point one three seconds have gone by
And I'm like what he said that I'm like I've been in matches like that
Where it's like good example that was it was me, Monty, Monty Aries and Lee Miller at a fair show
And we did a bunch of stuff
And then we hear lies they go five minutes has gone by
And all three of us looked at each other
What the actual fuck
Oh we did everything we called
It's like we've done like the entire match
Five minutes has gone by
And we had to go like I think we had to go twelve
And I look at Monty and I'm like
Monty and I just kind of locked eyes and we're like
Wing it
Yeah exactly that's all you can do right then
You say that's your favorite one
Let's see if this one compares to it his Mark Henry story
A fun moment with Mark where I was in a tag match in Cape Girardeau at what's called the Show Me Center
It was a six man and I'm in there and Triple H and I think MVP or Mark's partners
But Triple H is really leading this match
Crowd wasn't great
It's one of those where the crowd wasn't great
There's daylight coming in the arena
We've never experienced that before
It's like a Maddenay show
Daylights coming in the ring
And it's the only time I've ever seen it and God bless
I learned a lot from Mark and I hope he doesn't get mad at me for sharing this
But I watched Mark on the apron fall asleep
I watched as we're in the middle bumping all this stuff and we're the bad guys right we're the bad guys
And I remember watching Mark just slowly
And then he come back he come back to life he come back to life
And when we eventually tagged him there was not this we'd like to call it the hot tag could be the most exciting
15 seconds of the night there was not this big response not this big reaction
I remember Triple H is you know now our chief creative officer just screaming at Mark like come on Mark
This is the coldest tag I've ever they're having this conversation as and I just I couldn't believe it
But we used to joke his mark at three six mafia sing a song
It's like beat him up break his neck and we would just add terms to it like beat him up break his neck
Get sweaty take a nap
Because I saw him do it on the apron I never forgot he's great though Mark is great
Wow
That's apparently mr. Hughes used to fall asleep a lot because he had narcolepsy. Oh really?
Yeah, so he'd be sitting in the ring apron all sudden
I think Jericho I think I get it. I think it was Jericho was actually like like their tagging he just fell asleep and he's like
So Tony used to tell a story about Mark
This is when they were traveling during I don't know Henry. Yeah Henry
Yeah, that's how
What?
The too many pronouns pal is true
that time that Tony was managing Mark Henry and
They would drive together travel together whatever and one day, you know, I guess Tony was trying to get Mark to eat healthier
So Tony was just like yo mark. We're gonna go get something healthy kid. You gotta eat some you know
some salads and whatnot and Mark's just looking at Tony being like
Tony I ain't no fucking rabbit. I want some fucking chicken
He's like no I'm gonna fucking KFC and eat some fucking chicken
And I was like exactly how you would say it to Tony
It's only been one drive in there just be like
Whatever you say kid, whatever makes you feel better
Such Tony think it just never did like to mark was his own person
Like it's like Larry at the show the other day when he's like, he's like, oh, yeah
Tony loves the chicken here and he's like Larry Larry the chicken is awesome
We're gonna get Tony that was awesome
Oh, we're gonna get Tony if you do we're gonna get Tony that was on the chicken
We're gonna get Tony on the podcast
We're all
The pod we I know well like you said earlier the podcast it's funny cuz Tony will walk in
To a locker room and start telling a story for the entire locker room will go quiet and just do this
Maybe we'll have to do it for patreon like yeah doing another show
We'll just do fucking Tony out there. Sorry time with Tony Tony. Yeah, exactly
Tony was he we already know what his
His fetish is yeah
Yeah
He likes to post out on Twitter. Yeah
He built the animals
Tony what do you think of Rocky Johnson? Rocky Johnson was a silver bitch
Yeah
You stole my boots
By the way, we're just me I just made that up I don't know that's sure
So please the family of Rocky Johnson
Don't come after me for that one. He's gonna take this podcast down because of you. Thank you
Cody talking about a W we have a we have something from the show. Oh fuck off
I know exactly what is it?
What is it? I know exactly what this is just for for Cody
In Snoop
Oh, man, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. I think he started doing what's that guy's name? I know that guy
I can't I can't accept any knowledge. Oh wait draw that back from there. Oh listen to this
Well, that was here that was Chris Jericho who said it was Chris who said it wrong purposely I
Want to say at that point it had become a bit
at that point, but also
and this is not a
Gosh, this is not to bury what I was doing at the time and where I was but discovery now
I guess at the time was WarnerMedia sent me to do that show
To help with the other show and I was honored to do it and excited to be picked
But it's wrestling has a bad habit and this is in all companies everywhere of not understanding. We're in a bubble guys
There's a whole outside world. Yeah, there's multiple mediums of entertainment. Don't be in a bubble like
Don't be afraid to do a little crossover thing. Yeah pure hardcore wrestling fans. They may not love it
But there's something on the show that's for them already
Yeah, and that that was you know, I hate I'm not bearing where I formerly was but not understanding like
The power the magnitude again of new eyeballs and then of crossing over and also I hate
Gatekeeping when it comes to what we do
That's one of the things I do really like about
Pro wrestling fans and sports entertainment and I wish the locker rooms would feel this more we welcome
Please if you've never been before because I know I know Tom you're not a big wrestling. This isn't true
I don't know where you so I said there's some quotes out there. No, I don't know you're
But but but I was sick Rick
I was I would say to you is like hey
If you ever dip your toe in and this is not a show for us many 41
It could be WrestleMania 42 could be WrestleMania 45 come to it come and if there's not something that you're like, ah, all right
No, I
Cody love you brother, but I can't afford to go to a fucking WrestleMania. Are you not now?
Not now the price now are fucking ridiculous
They're double the price as they were last year. You want to see this right now. Let me tell you you're looking at
five figures or yeah for cheap seats cheap seats
for this is a
I'm going to WrestleMania. I
Want to sit front row?
Hardcam I would be right on camera for two nights
Holding a sign that says I for main motherfuckers now
It's gonna be like easily ten grand for just you for two nights easily ten grand. If not more
Somebody to break down that cuz they there
They had press passes and they paid for the they were they were on for the first show but not for the second show
They said he bought the same seats and it was another fucking like six seven hundred dollars more than he paid last year
Jesus. Yeah, he's like it's fucking ridiculous prices. I don't know what is going on
Actually, hold on. Let me throw this out here in the atmosphere. Hey Cody
I would love love love to go to a WrestleMania
It'd be the only time I'd ever go to WrestleMania if you want to pay my way to WrestleMania
I'll take it cuz yeah, cuz Cody will definitely do that for you
I'm just saying yeah
Fuck you're right here tight, so
I
Cheap seats the cheap seats are the cheapest seats right now are over a thousand dollars. Yeah
That is in Vegas ridiculous
WrestleMania
Get ready, I wonder how much front row seats were can you see that
10,000 right there. Yeah, that's like row seven
Yeah, that's seven rows back, bro
Seven rows back ten thousand plus fees. Yep. Holy shit
Where's is there any empty seats where's the is there any of all the readout sections are all the all of these are
So do the closest one you can to the ring see how much that is I think that'll be this one way over here
Yeah
$15,000 that's for two tickets for
Both nights, but for one person one night. That's one night. Yeah, that's one night
15 grand so 30 grand tonight's
So for me to see real Ripley and Cody Rhodes I'm gonna spend 30 grand
For that's those seats, but even cheap seats by yourself. You're spending two grand
Yeah by yourself
That's not including hotel that's not including like
transportation
Hotel but motherfucker for that much. I'm sleeping in the fucking tent somewhere
Jesus bigotry like Lisa my resume the tickets were expensive
Meanwhile, what's our what's our?
Where they are meanwhile, you can go to MPW and only spend $10 bucks
24th in Old Town get some quality, you know entertainment
I
Definitely entertainment some of the next Massachusetts main show
New Hampshire might be the closest one. That's great. Now. It's New York
No, there was a Massachusetts one. I saw the last screen
You go back
I just saw a sign gain a Serena should be mass
Yeah, if you go back, I think it was the last page
You had that you're on I just expanded. Oh you expanded I could have sworn. I saw Massachusetts. Yeah, I didn't go
I just see see I thought the closest one. I see is
DC Tennessee, Ohio
New York
CAGB I don't know. Yeah, I guess
But still so like I mean even either or like if this was
Just like I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean
Just do you do? Yeah do New York? Let's just say New York. Yeah
Yeah, there we go
This is a Monday night raw this is yeah, this is a Monday night raw. Oh
I think these are all priests. I think oh
You have to pre sell it. Yeah, I think these are pre sell to unlock
Still those grand
Packages like yeah, I mean that's not bad if it's VIP
I have these are all pre sell codes the
The show the revolution in Florida I managed to spend I think it was overall hundred dollars for three seats
Oh, really? Yeah
But I was in the I was in the cheap seats, so
But I still had a pretty good view. Okay
Here we go these this is your Monday night raw in North Carolina
in Charlotte
352 dollars for ringside
That's not bad price at all
No, this is like you have stage even to sit four rows back
That's and I understand it's wrestlemania, but holy
shit, bro
like as
Ridiculous how expensive and I understand also it's Las Vegas, but
Yeah, 60. Holy shit. I went to money in the bank
2014 for like 60 bucks nosebleeds at a garden at TD
Yeah, it's like
I
It's like who?
Cheapest seats is a thousand dollars. That is fucking ridiculous
Yeah
All right. I've never been all already bitching about this
All right, let's get all through this because you guys look like you're ready for bed. All right
Uh cody rhodes, uh talking about his father
Like i'm always fascinated by you know boys growing up with
Regardless of if someone's dad is an athlete
Yeah
Usually boys either go I want to be just like my dad or I don't want to be anything like my dad
Right like and and when you get to athletes
Like uh, obviously there's children of athletes who?
Go, I want to do that
Um, like let's say in like the nfl. Yeah, and you know, there's some that do and then there's some that you're like
You just can't do it. You you're not an nfl player, right?
Right or nba in wrestling like as a kid
Were you were you I want to I want to be a wrestler like as a young kid or you kind of like, yeah
You know, it's just what my dad does
whatever
So he brought me to a show when I was really young and he was his older dad
He was 39 when he had me he was executive producers behind the scenes. It was a wrestling booker
He was helping the creative so he wasn't in his full prime
But I remember when he brought me to that show it was utc chattanooga
So building ww still runs to this day
And it was brad armstrong this guy hit an arm drag and just to hear the reaction
And the the women screaming out of their mind. It was one of those. I always tell people I have no interest in the inside
Behind the scenes of wrestling because I lived it. Yeah, I like to be out. I like to be out there in the crowd
That's what that narrative is what I enjoy after that. There was nothing I wanted to do more and you let it be known
Oh my gosh, I mean nothing and was it was it like was he like
Was he like great or was it like you got like a long way to go kid like you're gonna have to
I needed to earn so I needed to earn his trust because so many second generations and third generations in the pro wrestling sports entertainment
Space they burn out they turn out bad
I needed to earn his trust and what I thought I could earn his trust with was
Actual folk style wrestling greco-roman freestyle all that and because he had never done that he was straight up promo entertainment
Yeah, great athlete, but he had never been on the mat before he didn't even know how it was for him
He didn't even know how it was scored
He would come to my tournaments as a kid and I'd see him for a takedown hold up like
But then it would be a two-point. Yeah, he didn't know he didn't know and um, I was obsessed with it
Full-blown vision quest if you've ever seen that movie just I dug in I did summer camps with kinsher tow
Granby vhs tapes I'd watch I made it my whole life loved it loved it
And once I I ended up winning a state championship as a junior and I had gone undefeated and I'd gone on
Team nationals and made my way around once that happened. I think whatever I told him I wanted to do
He was good with it. He was good. He was he was good. I didn't have a curfew anymore
My sister still complains about it this day. Yeah, like senior year. They just he's fine. Yeah, where is he's been gone for three days
He's fine, you know
Reminds me growing up in northern Maine, where is he? Hey be fine
He'll be fine. I had I have a like two more clips where we're gonna skip that but I really want to talk about the uh
the
Peck injury because I never I heard the full story of what happened
until this podcast so
Uh, this is the peck injury that uh, cody had if I can find it there it is
I want to talk about your pack injury
Oh, yeah
If you do, you know what happened to his pack? I know it was a uh a pectoral tear right show the match hell in the cell
Right or show the picture
I didn't mean to direct anyone in that moment. Do it. Please. Yeah, there it was. That's gnarly. Yeah, my mom thought it was makeup
I thought it was and you stay
Wrestling the fuck so it's a rare time. That's probably the it's a very rare time the beginning of the match
We had we had over 10 000 people in all-state arena in chicago and the beginning of the match
I took that jacket off and it was the weirdest feeling i've ever felt performing in front of a live audience ever they were
Grossed out. Yeah, and almost concerned god and bro and I remember they said are you in horrific pain here?
Yes, and I didn't have anything to supplement it and I lied about it
And i'm this is probably a prime example of they'll never let this happen again
Of course and how how much prior to the match did you?
have the injury so about I was talking to bird about this earlier about
Five days. I think it's five days is over the course of the bruise like we call it like it grew into the Dumbledore arm
It just like kept overtaking my body. It was small. It was in there. Um
Oh fuck this is gonna fuck you. So about five this is gonna definitely screw you up
So man, but five days before I walk into my gym. It's super early in the morning
I'm really just I don't know this i'm I got an open cup of coffee and flip-flops on
I'm clearly not there to seriously train. That's bird style. Go ahead. Right? So open cup of coffee
It's worse flip-flops on and it's just me another guy and all I was gonna do is chess that day
But this dude who's in this gym with me is absolutely eating me up like mean mugging me and i've never had a gym confrontation
Never like just he's just staring at you. You don't know. I don't know him right?
So he's doing all this crossfit stuff. He's taking up 80 machines. There's two of us in there
It's not bothering me so much, but I get it you're training for something, you know, like I get it
So I go sit on the bench and I remember thinking to myself
I'm gonna show him
I'm gonna show him no warm-up. So no warm-up. I put 225 on the bar. This should it should have happened here
225 is is a lot for me to bench. So this should have happened here. I put 225 on the bar
I take it off a little grimy, but I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it
I take it off a little grimy, but I hit it down
I put it up and I think that didn't impress him and this is where it all are you doing reps with it?
No, I just hit one you hit one. I hit one should should have known then since i'm not repping 225
Yeah, this is a bad call. So my max is
At the time maybe 330 but I mean that's with a full day's warm-up training and I built up to it
So I put three plates on I go for the big three plates barefoot open cup of coffee
I unrack it
Right away. They say uh, they say it's it snaps, but I didn't feel a snap
It felt like velcro ripping in my arm and it goes no collars. So the bar goes like this
So now i'm trying not to be that guy. So I try to keep the bar. I keep the bar. I drop it on this that dude
Runs over to me. He goes are you okay?
And he helps me get the bar and put it back on after that whole moment
Between us and I remember him telling me he goes did you just tear your shoulder or your pec?
And I oh, no, I don't think so. I went in the aerobics room and when it's I don't know if you
Torn the bicep. Did you ever tear the pec? No, so it's gone
So basically it hangs like you see it hangs like a boob
The tendon that pulls it to the arm hangs like a boob and i'm seeing and my wife's like I don't think it's torn
Don't worry. Don't panic. I'm heading into my first main event
For ww since my return. This is just my dream here. I i'm panicked. She said don't panic
It's not torn. I get in a plank position, which I read, you know a quick google search
That's how you can tell and it falls right there like fully fall and I knew your your
Muscle so there's no connection. So it's just hanging. So it just hangs so like I think i'm out of this bet
I think i'm out of this bet. I can't do this. He has a bench bet. You're getting to 315, right?
Yeah, I did 295 twice yesterday. Oh my gosh. You're right there
And I know but I don't want I don't want my tit to hang but you should you should do
I mean i've seen a number of pecked hairs. You should do a gradual warm-up that day
You know, oh my god yourself nice and warm for it. Don't just go over. I just want to just get out of it
Also hydrate
I'm no water in my body like that thing was meant to be
Snapped and the the doctor because this was I lied through my teeth to get into this match
I had strength in my arm, you know just a little bit
But I lied through my teeth to get to this and after they kept saying well, it can't get any worse
It can't get any worse. So we should let him wrestle. So wait, did you have to get surgery? Yeah
I was out for seven months. So and they of course ww in true ww fashion
They filmed the surgery and there's just a shot somewhere. My wife has seen it as soon as the guy opened me up
This is after hearing like can't get any worse. Yeah, can't get any worse
Well clearly this match that went 25 plus minutes with a table bump and all this
Maybe it built some swelling up this dude cuts me open straight to the ceiling just blood
Just shoot straight up just straight in my brandy's just watching, you know, just couldn't believe it
Yeah, so it might maybe get a little swelling involved there
Wow
Fucking crazy
That's crazy
Yeah, that was a moment that that because we all heard that he tore and we thought that he was gonna be out of the match
And he's always gonna wrestle
And
And literally yeah, he was saying like that fucking as soon as that jack came off. It was like, oh my god
He's really gonna fucking do this
Like I thought it was makeup to a first like oh, they're just doing it for the fucking stories
Like no, he fucking legit tore it. Yeah, like oh
Fuck just crazy
Like I said, I had two more clips, but they're not that important. It's already past midnight. I want to try to get this done
I'm gonna go to the botches. But before we go to the botches, I want to thank everybody for coming in
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Where the fuck is Franklin Franklin?
Um, well, that's a double shot weekend, isn't it? That's a double shot weekend and the Frank
Frank, you know, i'll be like that'll be getting paid the mucho bucks to
uh, make sure the um, Mike Turner doesn't get his
But eaten out by uh, lee miller
Sam matthews, you know, because that's the pathway or or joy nails
Those are the only two confirmed right now on my end I don't have I I know what is to come so
Uh, whatever the next gino show is me and alexander lee are going to be taking out the pathway as well
I think that's in march. I think me and me and me and alexander lee
My best friend in gino's my favorite venue teaming together is probably a recipe for beautiful beautiful
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Probably not next next plug your shit
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So yeah, that'd be fun. Um
That's that's a stormy savage show right? Yeah, i'm thinking of stormy savage and we drop that hairy little bastard on his head
Yeah
Uh mpw titles back on the 24th way face way in the neighborhood
Yeah, and um
I had a show coming up the weekend after that but unfortunately that get cancelled
Ring wars, he said he gets can't oh ring wars. Yeah ring wars is not cancer. There was is the
Yeah, ring wars is on the first. Uh, let's rustles on the second
I don't know if i'm doing anything or we're doing anything, but it is on the second. So i'm just i'm putting out there
It's it's home. We're getting it. We're getting it. February 1st. I'll be sitting in front of my tv watching the world
Live because you're crying. Joey neil took your fucking spot eight minutes from the venue. Okay, so whatever it means
I
I'm gonna be like, oh my god
I'm gonna be like, oh my god, I'm gonna be like, oh my god, I'm gonna be like, oh my god, I'm gonna be like, oh my god
What i'm gonna do is i'll wrestle in the matches come over all sweaty with my gear still on. Yes, that's a great idea
Grab a beer out of your fridge. That's a good fucking idea
Everyone whoever has their match like as soon as the match is done just leave it come out
JP shows a picture of his little girl. We're all just sitting there in gear drinking still in gear. Yeah, just fucking watching the road
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Yeah, so everybody have a great night get some fucking sleep. Enjoy your fucking weekend
I need to go to bed. I'm tired
As I play video games for another hour jp's jp's been up for 24 hours at this point. Yeah at this point
Yeah, 23, but yeah, we're pushing it by the time it fell asleep. It'd be 24. All right
All right. Good night fuckers
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