1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Ah! 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Shut up! I'm listening to Zdenek's English podcast. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,000 You're listening to Zdenek's English podcast. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:15,000 By far the greatest English podcast on Earth for English learners since sliced bread. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 My name is Zdenek and I'm your host. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Hello listeners, welcome back to Zdenek's English podcast. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Here is another episode for you and this time I'm joined by Barbara from Hungary. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Hello Barbara, how are you today? 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Hi, I'm good, thank you. 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Did I say all the introduction correctly? 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,000 You are from Hungary, you are Hungarian and your name is Barbara? 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Correct. 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,000 And how should I pronounce the name? Is it Barbara? 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Like in the English way or do you say it in a different way in Hungarian? 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,000 It's Barbara in the Hungarian way. 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,000 It's almost the same, almost the same. 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:08,000 So Barbara, you are an Achiever's Chamber member and that's the first thing we should mention here. 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:14,000 And secondly, what's going to be our topic today? What do you have for us? 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:20,000 We are going to actually talk about the AI and about the future, 20 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:26,000 how it will impact our future in 10 or let's say in 50 years. 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Wow, okay. Well, I think I invited the right person to do this because you work in IT, don't you? 22 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Yeah, I'm an IT support person actually. 23 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:42,000 An IT support person, what exactly does that mean? Can you explain it to me? 24 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Of course. So if you have a problem with your computer, you cannot power it on, you cannot print on your printer or anything. 25 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:58,000 If anything, it's not functioning properly, then you call me and then I fix it. 26 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 So it's that. 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:07,000 You fix it. Do you have to come to my place or do you just fix it via a phone call or Skype call? 28 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:15,000 I can do remote work. It depends on, of course, the problem because if it's a hardware problem, 29 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,000 then there is a chance that I cannot do it remotely. 30 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:30,000 But in a major area of the time, I can do remote fixing. So it's very efficient. 31 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,000 But would you be able to help me with my hardware if something went wrong? 32 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Is it part of your job description to actually go to someone's home? 33 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:49,000 And I mean, I'm still imagining the good old times like 20 years ago when you had that big tower that we called the computer. 34 00:02:49,000 --> 00:03:01,000 You remember those times when it was a big, big tower full of hardware that you could open the thing and you saw the graphic card and all that and all the wires there and everything. 35 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 So would you be able to deal with that? 36 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:13,000 So actually, I have a small business, so I am not an employee. 37 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,000 I can go to offices and people's home if it's requested. 38 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:26,000 And I can assemble a computer or fix the hardware if it's possible. 39 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:32,000 But there are some cases when it's just physically not possible anymore. 40 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 But I can. I do my best every time. 41 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:41,000 OK, brilliant, brilliant. So today we're going to talk about technology. 42 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:51,000 You mentioned AI. So how do you see the current sort of trend or the way it's going these days? 43 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:58,000 What do you think? Is it going fast or is that the right sort of speed or did you predict it all? 44 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Too many questions. Hang on. Let me slow down. 45 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,000 I have so many questions, you know, that's why. 46 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,000 OK. How happy are you with what's happening right now? 47 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Let's keep it simple. 48 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:22,000 I think since the introduction of this public chat, things have become just too fast. 49 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:31,000 And we maybe do not have the time to recognize the abilities and also. 50 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 But it's happening again. I don't know why. 51 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Sometimes when you say something like some of the words just disappear. 52 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 I don't know what is happening. 53 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:44,000 I have no idea myself. Is the Internet trying to kill us here? 54 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Probably. 55 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,000 It probably recognized what we are about to do here. 56 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,000 We are going to reveal all the secrets. 57 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Sorry, I don't know what's happening because. 58 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,000 I don't know myself. I don't know. 59 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 OK, listeners, I'm sorry about this little interruption. 60 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Barbara is still here. I'm here as well. 61 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,000 And if you hear Barbara slightly differently, don't worry. 62 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,000 It is still her. We haven't replaced our guest. 63 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Barbara, are you still there? 64 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 I am still here and I'm still Barbara. Yes. 65 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Perfect. Perfect. OK, so Barbara, let me ask you this question. 66 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:33,000 How happy are you with the way the world is currently going with all this AI stuff? 67 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:42,000 So since the publication of this Chagy Pity, things have become really fast. 68 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:50,000 The motion itself and the motion of the world is faster and faster day by day. 69 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:59,000 And I think on one side I am happy with it because we have so many opportunities. 70 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:08,000 We just have to recognize them. But on the other hand, it has also great disadvantages, unfortunately. 71 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:15,000 But you work in IT, so someone like you, I imagine of all people, 72 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:21,000 you are you are the most likely person to actually recognize those advantages. 73 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Am I right about that? Maybe I am one of them. 74 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,000 You're one of the chosen ones. 75 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Yeah. Is that is that do you think so? Is that a blessing then? 76 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Is that like is that a huge advantage for you or does it is it a burden? 77 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Of course, it's a huge advantage because I also do a little programming, not too complex program, but just just the basics. 78 00:06:52,000 --> 00:07:01,000 And if you have some issues with your code, let's say you can discuss with the Chagy Pity and you spare a lot of time 79 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:07,000 because you don't have to overview like, I don't know, hundreds of lines of code. 80 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:16,000 You just have to copy and paste the area and then the Chagy Pity will help you with the right synthetics as well. 81 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:21,000 So, of course, it's it saves your time. 82 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:27,000 But the way it sounds, it's like you're talking about Greek. It's all Greek to me, Barbara. 83 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,000 When I hear the word coding, I kind of switch off. 84 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:37,000 But that's that's maybe now different because you just ask Chagy Pity, can you explain what coding is? 85 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,000 And it's going to tell you that. And not only that, it's going to do it for you. 86 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,000 And you know nothing, right? You can know absolutely nothing about it. 87 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,000 But suddenly you can become an expert. You just need to have an open mind enough, right? 88 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,000 To just to just do it. 89 00:07:51,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Exactly. And that's that's where the problem comes when when people who did not really study anything, 90 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:07,000 even the basics, can also do programs and websites with the Chagy Pity. 91 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,000 And on the surface, it's pretty. It's I mean, the design is user friendly. 92 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:21,000 It's colorful. But the back end is questionable. Is it reliable enough? 93 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Do you know where to update? Do you know when to update it? 94 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Yeah, but it's going to get more and more reliable. 95 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:35,000 I think it's going to get better and better because every version, every new version they release 96 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,000 seems to have more and more features and seems to be more and more refined. 97 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,000 And so I'll quickly tell you my story with Chagy Pity. 98 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:50,000 When it came out, I noticed it. But of course, I started using it after people had hyped it. 99 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,000 So I wasn't one of the first people to recognize that it had existed. 100 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 I was like most most of the people, let's say. 101 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Well, I did jump on the bandwagon a bit. I started using it here and there, but not like for everything. 102 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:12,000 And then there is a next next chapter of this story when after I came back from Vietnam, 103 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:20,000 I've got I've got one friend here who also works in IT and he I used to talk to him in Vietnam. 104 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:26,000 He used to live in Vietnam. Now I caught up caught up with him in Prague 105 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,000 and he started talking about Chagy Pity again to me. 106 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:34,000 At first, I was like, come on, this Chagy Pity, it's going to take over your life. 107 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:42,000 I was a bit skeptical. And he was told he was telling me specifically about the way he is walking his dog 108 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:51,000 and talking about different things to Chagy Pity, asking questions because he and his wife are expecting a baby. 109 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:57,000 And he was asking a lot of questions about how to raise a baby, what to do. 110 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,000 And it sounds very amusing. 111 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,000 But at first I was like, come on, you're going absolutely nuts. 112 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:11,000 But then, you know, when I came back home, I thought more and more about this. 113 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,000 And I realized, hang on a minute, this is something I should probably try. 114 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Yeah. So this is this is my story with Chagy Pity. I could tell you more. 115 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:26,000 But I need to talk. I want to let you talk as well, because you're the guest. 116 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:37,000 It's actually amazing, because even when you hear artificial intelligence and when you when you know that you have access to Chagy Pity, 117 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,000 that is artificial intelligence, you imagine big stuff. 118 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,000 You imagine, I don't know, like serious stuff. 119 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:56,000 But if you use it smart in a smart way, you you can actually benefit from it much more. 120 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:03,000 I say I say so I wish I'm my example with you regarding this Chagy Pity. 121 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Let's go. Let's go. I am preparing for a language exam. 122 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:14,000 And I've always had problems with learning the vocabulary, the words, because it's hard for me to memorize. 123 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:20,000 And I always needed someone to ask me the words and then I can answer verbally. 124 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:26,000 It's just the way I work. And I used Chagy Pity. 125 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,000 I listed the words in English and in Hungarian. 126 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:39,000 I don't know, like 50 words. And then I had to teach him how to ask back properly the words, 127 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:46,000 because when I provided the list and then I said, OK, now ask me back the words. 128 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:51,000 And then he started listing all the words with the English and Hungarian meaning. 129 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:58,000 So it did not work. And then I put my little time and my little effort and then it was all good. 130 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:06,000 So he just became my virtual teacher, actually. Be careful, Barbara. 131 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Let's hope he as you go. I'm shocked by the fact that you call Chagy Pity he as well. 132 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:25,000 So I'm more I'm worried about you, Barbara. Now we heard stories about these apps where you can have a partner. 133 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,000 You can have a partner, an AI partner. So you are teaching. 134 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,000 This is how it starts. This is how you this is how you met. 135 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:38,000 It was supposed to be about language learning. 136 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Maybe I'm becoming more attached to Chagy Pity. 137 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Be careful, because you call him and soon it will be a darling and sweetheart. 138 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:54,000 He does everything you ask him to do. 139 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Ideal husband. It's too far. It's going to be too far. 140 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Yeah, but I think people use it as an emotional support as well, because I think it can share ideas, personal ideas. 141 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:22,000 And it's you have to be careful because you got the illusion that you are talking to a person. 142 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:28,000 You just said I'm sorry, but you just said people use Chagy Pity as an emotional support. 143 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:34,000 I thought that was the only thing you cannot use Chagy Pity for. Oh, my God. 144 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,000 I think it can give you advice. 145 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:50,000 So, you know, why are the machine learning technique and it is learning continuously and in every field of life, it can give you advice. 146 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:55,000 And it's scary. It is because so if I have a bad day, right. 147 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,000 So I need a shoulder to cry on. Yeah, maybe. 148 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Instead of like going to my friends or family members, I'm going to just turn on Chagy Pity and say, I'm feeling depressed today. 149 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Can you make me feel better? And is he going to do that? 150 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,000 I mean, I haven't tried. 151 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,000 I thought you just said that that's what that's what he does. 152 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:34,000 It's not that he's sorry. No, I said that the capability of Chagy Pity and the areas that you can benefit from it, it's it's wide. 153 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 The ranges it's wide. 154 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Yeah, no, you know, I've basically did what my friend had been doing in the end and I paid for the for the plus version first time ever. 155 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Yeah, I thought I would never do that because who pays for I was no, no, I was under the impression. 156 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Yeah, I was under the impression that even the even the lower version of Chagy Pity was quite good. 157 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:10,000 And it was. But then after I heard what my friend had said, I was like, OK, I'm good. 158 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:19,000 I'm doing this as well. And basically, as I as I told you, he's walking the dog going through the forest talking like as if it was with a real person. 159 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,000 So he's even outside in an amazing environment. 160 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,000 He's asking questions like how to bring up a baby. 161 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,000 And he's also practicing his English, he said. Right. 162 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,000 And I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to lose my job soon. 163 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:41,000 And apparently he still it's it cannot correct your pronunciation yet. 164 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,000 So that's what he says. 165 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:51,000 So I still might have a job for a few more months and then, you know, I don't mean to scare you. 166 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:56,000 And I think the way you said it, you're already. 167 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:09,000 If you start as if you start, if you start a sentence by saying I don't mean to scare you, then that that that can only mean that you are about to scare me, Barbara. 168 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,000 So I'm already scared. I'm already scared. 169 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:30,000 It's just the fact that we already have outside of Chagy Pity, virtual teachers that can detect your English level and that can correct your pronunciation. 170 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:43,000 And I am not sure how I feel about this, because I think this human contact with and don't get me wrong with the teachers. 171 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:52,000 It's necessary because if a machine tells you what to do, it's it's I mean. 172 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,000 But it's not just the teachers, Barbara. 173 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,000 We are talking across all fields. We are talking about friendships here. 174 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 We're talking about relationships. I'm serious. 175 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Like, it's not about it's not just about that, because with a teacher, you have a relationship as you. 176 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Yeah, you're creating a bond. There is trust. 177 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:20,000 It's about trust as well. And it I don't know if it can replace that, but it could it possibly could. 178 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,000 It's just not it's just fake. But people like fake these days. 179 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:32,000 You know, that's the problem, because it's simple. It's cheaper and people do it and no strings attached. 180 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,000 You know, yeah, yeah, that's the sad part, I think. 181 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:43,000 So that's that's a disadvantage of this huge development that we are facing right now. 182 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Oh, my goodness. It's so it's so incredible. 183 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,000 I don't think people even realize the scale of what is happening. 184 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:59,000 No, no, you know, I had this watershed moment when I so when I first bought this app, then I paid for the plus version. 185 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,000 And then I started doing what my friend had advised. 186 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:12,000 And I was like, oh, my God, because when we when he was describing to me, it was already sort of impressive. 187 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,000 But I couldn't I couldn't imagine it until I actually did it myself. 188 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,000 So then then I started asking different questions. 189 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,000 And I even was trying to make fun because that's, I guess, my nature. 190 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,000 I was trying to make fun of GPD and I sort of like banter with it. 191 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,000 And I said I said to it, I said to it sorry, I call it it for me. 192 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:38,000 It's not a he. I said to it, oh, you did not understand my joke. 193 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,000 And then it's then it's sort of it was learning from then. 194 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:48,000 I really soon I told I told it this was sarcasm. 195 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:54,000 And then and then the next answer was, oh, I see what you did there. 196 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 I was like, what the hell? 197 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:02,000 I realized it just it had just it had just detected my sarcasm. 198 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Basically, I was like, whoa, what's going on there? 199 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Wow. Yes. But then I asked some some more questions next day and it couldn't do it again. 200 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:22,000 But I think it will be able to at some point. 201 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Yeah, maybe maybe it will answer sarcastically to your questions in the future. 202 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 You just have to you just have to teach it. 203 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,000 If you see it does what you teach it basically, as you said, right. 204 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,000 So that's what you're learning vocabulary like that. 205 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,000 And you can you can have a conversation with it as well in English. 206 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,000 I even tried to brush up on my German. 207 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Yeah, I was even speaking to it in German. 208 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 My German is terrible. 209 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:57,000 And the funny the funny bit was that it kept answering so quickly that I wasn't able to follow. 210 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:02,000 Yeah. So I kept saying Langsam bitte Langsam, which means slowly, please slowly. 211 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:08,000 And and and it always promised to be slower and said, yeah, OK, I will be slower. 212 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:13,000 And then it never was slower. It was always fast. 213 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:22,000 So once you once you learn how to use it and adjust it to your needs, then it can be efficient. 214 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:27,000 So basically, there are a few ways we could we could deal with this now. 215 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:33,000 So we could either sort of accept it and another good word would be embrace it. 216 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Embrace what's happening. 217 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Accept it. Take it as it is and learn to live with it and even use it to our advantage. 218 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Or we could just what's we could just sort of ignore it and, you know, pretend it doesn't exist or something. 219 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000 I don't know. 220 00:20:52,000 --> 00:21:01,000 I mean, if we even pretend that it doesn't exist and we ignore it, as you said, it will be still existing and other people will still use it. 221 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,000 So why not just make the best out the most out of it? 222 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Because, yeah, I realize that because you see, as a teacher, I could be like. 223 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:23,000 OK, I must not tell my students, my paying clients, because I've got paying clients who have been studying with me for maybe years. 224 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:33,000 I'm like, I must not tell them, because if I tell them, they will start thinking about this and realize it's actually cheaper. 225 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:39,000 It's actually cheaper if I let Zdenek go and learn with GPT. 226 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:44,000 It's only twenty dollars a month, because Zdenek is much, much more expensive. 227 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000 So I was thinking about these things as well. 228 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:56,000 And then the first lessons I had with my students, I told most of them about this because I couldn't I couldn't help it. 229 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:03,000 So most of my students know we even we even had CheGPT as part of our lesson. 230 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,000 Cool. You are doing the right business, Zdenek. 231 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,000 I don't know. I don't know. I'm just this is just who I am. 232 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:16,000 I would rather be honest with people. 233 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:25,000 I am more concerned about other impacts that will be, I don't know, present in the foreseeable future. 234 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:35,000 It's about the data privacy because as CheGPT, I mean, as the developers are upgrading the versions of CheGPT, 235 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,000 the more and more data it will get from you. 236 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:49,000 And people think that if you are using stuff with your, I don't know, with your data, your name, your email and your phone number, 237 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,000 then it's free. And no, it's not free. 238 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,000 You pay for it with your personal data that is much more. 239 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:09,000 So it's it's worth more for the companies than your actual money because then they can customize, I don't know, ads and yeah. 240 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:14,000 Marketing, they can adjust their marketing based on your needs and preferences. 241 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,000 And this is something that is usually private. Right. 242 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:25,000 But and then with CheGPT and any any sort of smart speakers like we don't know who's storing this data. 243 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,000 They might tell you, oh, no, no, no, you are safe. 244 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Everyone is going to tell you you are safe. Right. 245 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Yeah, because everything is in the cloud and it's safe. 246 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Now, what if someone hacks the cloud? 247 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Can the can the cloud be hacked? Barbara? 248 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,000 I mean, everything can be hacked. 249 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Even the website of NASA could be hacked. 250 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:55,000 So I don't see why not the cloud of CheGPT, you know, couldn't be hacked. 251 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,000 That's so scary. So so. 252 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,000 I mean, if someone uses the data for advertising, I don't like it. 253 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:09,000 But it's again, it's already happening with cookies anyway. 254 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Right. With the Google Chrome and all that. 255 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:18,000 It's storing the websites you've been looking at and stuff like that. 256 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000 So it's kind of happening already. 257 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:27,000 But now, what if this is used for some evil intentions? 258 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Serious stuff. What is what is there is some guy. 259 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,000 I mean, there are already some really bad guys that are trying to conquer the world. 260 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,000 I can I can see I'm not going to name them, but I can already see some guys like that. 261 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:52,000 But what if what if this goes even further and someone crazy, someone rich, someone crazy, someone rich, someone with power abuses this and then just decides to destroy the world or something with it? 262 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:58,000 You know, I don't know if you have ever heard about the dark web or the deep web. 263 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:08,000 I have. Yeah. So can you even if this CheGPT or anything that is related to AI is available on the dark web as well. 264 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,000 That is some serious stuff. 265 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,000 So we'll see. Yeah. 266 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Well, I'm just curious. Have you have you been there? Have you been on the dark web? 267 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,000 No, I have not. I have not been on the dark side. 268 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,000 How do you how do you even get there? How do you even get there? I don't know. 269 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:46,000 I think you need a special browser. And and I think that's all because from the dark web, everything from your computer and your personal data can be just, you know, stolen. 270 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Yeah, because there's no protection. Nobody's nobody cares that it's all about criminal activity. 271 00:25:51,000 --> 00:26:01,000 So once you want illegal activity, so once you enter that world, you are also kind of exposed. You're not protected anymore. 272 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,000 So this is the place where you can buy drugs and things like that, I guess. 273 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:11,000 And I think drugs is the best. I mean, the best thing you can buy from. 274 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,000 What do you mean? That sounded weird. That sounded weird. 275 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:25,000 You mean the least dangerous thing, which, yeah, the least thing, yeah, which sounds weird again, because drugs are dangerous enough. 276 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,000 I think exactly. Yeah, yeah. I see what you mean. 277 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Yeah. Wow. Okay. 278 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:39,000 Well, we lost Barbara for a second. I think she has gone. She has gone on the on the dark net. 279 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:47,000 I think she's now on the dark net and she is, ladies and gentlemen, she is trying to conquer the world. 280 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Are you back, Barbara? Have you come back from the dark place? 281 00:26:52,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Not yet, but it is dark. If you are watching this on the YouTube channel, by the way, this episode is also available on the Teachers Thenak YouTube channel. 282 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:12,000 So if you are watching it there, then you saw that Barbara's screen was dark, which was an indication that she has gone. 283 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:17,000 She has gone to the dark net. Oh, she's back from the dark net. Welcome back. 284 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Yeah, I have serious stuff over there. 285 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Are you willing to share it with us or are we even prepared mentally to take that? 286 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:33,000 I cannot. I cannot share any details. I'm sorry. I sold my soul already. 287 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,000 You've gone to the other side now. Now you are one of them. 288 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:47,000 Now we are going to have to hunt you to take you down or otherwise we will not survive this. 289 00:27:47,000 --> 00:28:00,000 Well, OK, Barbara. So what can we do then? So we just have to live with it now. We have to learn to work with it. 290 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,000 We cannot ignore it. What's the best approach in your opinion? 291 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:18,000 We just have to use it wisely and also advise other people to use it wisely and be careful. 292 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,000 OK, so what about the countries, countries in the world? Should they invest? 293 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Countries, companies, individuals, we can decide for ourselves, right? We can decide whether we use it or not. 294 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:39,000 But what do you think the companies should do? What do you think the countries should do? Should they invest more in the development of it or implementation of it? 295 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,000 What do you think companies should do and countries? 296 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:50,000 I think the restriction of the publication is it could be a good idea. 297 00:28:50,000 --> 00:29:05,000 So let's just run some tests or diagnose the situations before we we we enable users to access everything. 298 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:23,000 OK, so we are going in a way that we maybe have to consider to block some some of those features or or I am not sure. Or we have to teach it at school. 299 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,000 You see, this is this is so it's kind of we are kind of on a crossroad, right? 300 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:42,000 Because you've got plenty of countries where censorship is a thing, where it's absolutely normal to, you know, to not allow people to use it. 301 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,000 And then then you have countries where everything is allowed. 302 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:51,000 So that's again, it's like it feels like we are on a crossroad here. 303 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Don't you think? 304 00:29:53,000 --> 00:30:00,000 I exactly I agree. And there are some countries where you cannot access anything, even the Internet. 305 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,000 That's right. And then you cannot access things that we take for granted in our part of the world, like Facebook, YouTube. 306 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:16,000 And then still, these people do access it because you have you have those what do you call it, Barbara? 307 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:23,000 You know, help me out here. That thing that you can you that thing that you can use. 308 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Oh, my God. It slipped my mind that thing you can use in order to connect to a different country. 309 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,000 VPN VPN VPN. Yeah, yeah. 310 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:40,000 It just came back. I was about to ask you GPT for the word I'm looking for. 311 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:46,000 My brain, my brain hasn't switched off yet. That's another thing I want to ask you about. 312 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:54,000 You know, every time there was a big invention, like in the 20th century, where it's a television or the Internet, 313 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:01,000 people started talking about dumbing down the society. Do you know what that means? 314 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:16,000 So so if if you like constantly watch TV, you will stop sort of learning, you will stop reading books and you will you will be sort of like a passive passive participant of of it all. 315 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:24,000 And that will make you more stupid. So do you think this is a risk as well that people will dumb down? 316 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:32,000 Of course, because once you do not it's even when the Internet came, it was also a phenomenon. 317 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:45,000 And now that you don't even have to Google things and you don't even have to do research is you don't even have to think and separate the information and recognize what is a valid information. 318 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,000 You basically do not use your brain anymore. 319 00:31:49,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Which could be a good thing because there are some, you know, you have free capacity and you can use your brain to something else. 320 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:07,000 But people do not do not really intend to do so. 321 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Maybe, maybe, you know why? Because everyone is in. I think we are all lazy sometimes, right? Because it's kind of it's pleasant to just take a break. 322 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:28,000 And if you can find a way to do things in a simple way, that's just one of the things people have been seeking. 323 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:38,000 You know, we want to be healthy, we want to be healthy, right? You want to be rich, but we also want to make things easier for ourselves. 324 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:48,000 And if it means that we can use our brain less and then just take it, take more breaks and relax more, I think people would pay for that. 325 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Yeah, yeah, because for the comfort. Yeah. Yeah. 326 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:04,000 OK, what about universities then? The thesis, you know. 327 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:12,000 Yeah, that's that's that's are they dead? Are they dead or dying or what's happening there? 328 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,000 No, it's I have heard that actually they can. 329 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:34,000 So when you ask them to write a thesis for you, it has some metadata inside and and some prints so they can detect whether it was you whether it was written generated by Chalgpt or not. 330 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:41,000 But on the other hand, if you generate it with Chalgpt, you can still rewrite manually. 331 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:51,000 Exactly. But you then if you if you decide to do it that way, you still have to to read it. 332 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,000 That's a plus. Maybe that you have to read your own thesis. 333 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Yeah, but what you can do is like, oh, I'm not sure about this paragraph. 334 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:05,000 Can you can you tell me how I could improve it? You don't you don't need to ask Chalgpt to do it all for you. 335 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:11,000 But even like doing little bits, you know, like helping you with proofreading your your it. 336 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,000 I don't think anyone can stop this. 337 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:23,000 The teachers use it as well now. We use it for correcting our students mistakes, you know. 338 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,000 Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. 339 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:36,000 So we'll see the direction because now we are not sure everything is just, you know, so busy with this Chalgpt. 340 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Yeah, when things are new, it's always around the edges as well. 341 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Right. So it kind of takes time to to get it right. 342 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,000 And that's and that's also a window of opportunity. 343 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:59,000 I remember, Barbara, when communism was over in the Czech Republic in 1989, 1989, when we had the Velvet Revolution, it was called. 344 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000 And then the world opened for us. 345 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000 Yeah, suddenly there was capitalism. 346 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000 But it also meant that that it was so raw. 347 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000 You know, people were not used to it. 348 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,000 It was so new and so suddenly so many opportunities. 349 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:21,000 But it also attracted a lot of crooks, you know, a lot of people who would take advantage because the laws were not perfect. 350 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,000 There were there were like loopholes everywhere. 351 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000 I'm not saying it's better now. It is better. 352 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,000 But but and also these people have kind of saturated the market. 353 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:40,000 But you know what I mean, every time there is something new like that, there are huge windows of opportunities for all sorts of people, good people and bad people. 354 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:48,000 Yeah. So this is this is my worry a little bit that this will be misused as well for some bad purposes. 355 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,000 You know, I am sure it will be misused for bad purposes. 356 00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:11,000 The question is on so how much will we I don't know how much space of of the entire purpose of the charity charity will it will it take? 357 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:22,000 Basically, if you are the first person to come up with an idea, even imagine when the charity came out and if you were the first person to realize, oh, hang on a minute, it can write a thesis for me. 358 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:31,000 No one knew at that point. Right. If you were one of the first people you you you finished your master's degree easily. 359 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:39,000 And then can you blame that person? It was just a smart person who had this idea as the first person while the laws while it was still kind of allowed. 360 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:46,000 Right. Or something. That's the thing. Right. So yeah, this this is going to be quite tough, I think, to deal with it. 361 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Maybe maybe we should slow down the development of it. What would you say? Is it is it can we not stop it now? Has the train has the train reached the speed where it cannot be stopped anymore? 362 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:13,000 Yeah, at the moment where everything related to AI, the virtual teachers, child GPT, web page creators based on AI, we cannot stop it anymore. 363 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:25,000 We just have to live with it. Not you and I, obviously, but more you than I, I would say that you work in IT. 364 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:32,000 But. OK, well, where do we take it from there then Barbara? 365 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:43,000 Well, any any anything that you would you would sort of recommend to the world? 366 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:53,000 I think even if we are offered the comfort, the opportunity for the comfort. 367 00:37:53,000 --> 00:38:02,000 Please be cautious and do not take everything. Be aware of your I know of your surrounding as well. 368 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:08,000 And use your brain. Try to try to use it actively, because if you. 369 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:17,000 Ask everything from the AI and you you work with the AI, you will your brain will basically. 370 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:28,000 Stop working. You will not be able to think as fast as you were able years ago, and you will you will see those effects later. 371 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Because you will become dependent on it, right? So in the same in the same it's in the same way you imagine you you you grow up with your smarter brother, let's say. 372 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:50,000 You always ask your smarter brother rather than working it out yourself or trying to learn it yourself. You always ask your smarter brother and your your smarter brother will always give you all the answers you can imagine. 373 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Yeah. And then one day when your brother is not there, what are you going to do then? 374 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Yeah, that's exactly the situation. Your your skills of solving the problem will fade away. 375 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,000 Exactly. Well, that's there's there's a warning for you. 376 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:16,000 Listeners, we are warning you be cautious when using CHE GPT. 377 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:25,000 Do not overuse it. Do not overuse it. Well, they are limiting the use actually that you can you can only use it for about 25 minutes. 378 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Yeah, when you have a conversation with it. Yes, I try to have a long conversation. And then it starts saying you have reached the limit. Please try again later or please come back in three, three, four hours. 379 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:48,000 That's what's happening right now. But I think that's because they they they don't have the capacity. They would they would let you use it forever. 380 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I think it's getting overloaded. So they need to limit it a little bit like that. Yeah. 381 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:03,000 Okay, Barbara, I think shall we leave it there? Shall we leave it there then? Yeah. 382 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:10,000 Okay. Well, it was lovely to talk to you. And I don't know how you guys feel about this episode. 383 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:20,000 It's in the same way. I don't know how I feel about CHE GPT, I suppose. But it was lovely to talk to you, Barbara. You are really knowledgeable in this subject. 384 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:27,000 And yeah, I wonder I wonder how listeners will feel about what we have been talking about. 385 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Yeah, thank you for the opportunity. No worries. You're very welcome. 386 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:42,000 And now I'm curious if we get any comments from listeners, because I think this is one of the one of those topics that I think everybody has something to say about this, right. 387 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:49,000 So whether it's positive or negative. So I expect a lot of comments on the YouTube channel. 388 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,000 Yeah. Please leave some comments below the video. 389 00:40:53,000 --> 00:41:03,000 And if you're listening to this as a podcast, because this is a podcast primarily, then just you can send send me an email if you want. 390 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:10,000 And if you want to ask, if you want to ask Barbara, I can even pass the message if Barbara is okay with it. 391 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:19,000 Of course. All right. So teachersdenek at gmail.com. Thank you very much, Barbara. And any last words? 392 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:28,000 Thank you. No, I think that's all. That's all. Okay, then. Thanks. See you guys. Bye bye. Bye bye. 393 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:46,000 Thanks a lot for listening. 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