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You're listening to the FootGlish podcast. Love

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football, learn English. So, the Czech Republic

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versus Ireland in the World Cup play -offs semi

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-final. Is that a dream draw or a total nightmare?

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Did Troy Parrott's last -minute winner against

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Hungary actually change Ireland's destiny? And

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be honest, was Hungary's defeat a bit of football

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karma coming back to bite them? And what on earth

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happened between the Czech Ultras and the players

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with Socek and Sofal front and center? Hello

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everyone, welcome back to the Footgrish podcast.

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My name is Denec Lucas, I'm an English teacher

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and I do this podcast for all English learners

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around the world who love football. And today

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I have a guest from Ireland and you might be

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wondering why? Why have you invited a guest from

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Ireland? Well, the reason is this is as follows,

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because you see... A few hours ago, the Czech

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Republic national team drew Ireland in the World

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Cup qualifier playoffs. And I think there was

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a fantastic story of the Irish national team,

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this qualification group. So I think it's actually

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a great opportunity to talk to an Irish fan here.

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Welcome to the podcast, Carl. Welcome back. Thanks

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very much, Danny. Great to be back under such

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great circumstances again, being back, you know.

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I think actually you will be prouder of your

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team than me. But we can discuss that here. It's

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like a reaction, like a sort of draw reaction

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or preview of our match, which is in March next

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year. So we're super prepared. It's like four

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months time or was it? even longer than that

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something like that five months time maybe yeah

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yeah right so how on earth did you pull that

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off because from what i heard i wasn't really

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following your group much until this started

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happening yeah so then everybody knew and we

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will talk about your new national hero parrot

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you know the the guy that scored five goals to

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to make this happen for you but At first, you

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were not doing very well in your group, were

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you? No, not at all, in fact. And we actually

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ended up losing to Armenia. So the team that

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ended up bottom of the group after everything

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was said and done, we actually lost to them away

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from home. So it's just one of those things where

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every result had to go right for us in the last

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three games. And somehow... It did. And I tell

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you now, the mood around the Irish football team

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has just completely turned on a sixpence, as

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they might say, completely flipped 180 degrees

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in the last week and a half because it went from

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total doom and gloom. You know, this is the worst

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Irish team we've ever seen. This is just like

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a calamity. They obviously, a lot of the media

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were making fun of the fact that... The national

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manager, Heimer Hallgrímsson, is a practicing

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dentist in Iceland. He's the same coach that

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coached the Iceland team that beat England in

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the Euros a couple of years back. Then he went

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and took over the Jamaican national team and

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then subsequently took over our national team

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after that. He's got a good track record. You

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take me back. So you said the first three games,

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after three games, you had like how many points?

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Was it like two points or something like that?

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So we had lost away to Armenia. We had drawn

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at home to Hungary. And then we had lost in the

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last minute to Portugal away. So we needed to...

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Two points after three games. So it looks like

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it really... One point. Yeah. So then we had

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to win three games. You lost to Armenia, right?

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You lost to Armenia, lost to Portugal, only one

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point against Hungary. So basically, it looked

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really desperate after three games with one point.

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You're bottom of the league, probably. Yeah,

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completely. We were Halgrimson out. Everybody

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wanted the dentist to go back to Iceland and,

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you know, leave the national job. He was on the

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chopping block for that. And yes, just somehow,

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I think a mixture of desperation and courage,

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let's say, has managed to get us through. Not

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even for the World Cup, to the playoffs, you

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know. Right, right. You didn't win the group,

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but Portugal topped the league. But you finished

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second, which was good enough for you to get

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into that playoffs draw. Exactly. So you had

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to beat, you had to, as you said, three result

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had to go your way. So you had to get nine points.

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Yeah. And if you got one point less or two points

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less, it wouldn't have happened. Would not have

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happened. Yeah. It would have been hungry going

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to the playoffs and Dominic Shabazlai and his

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team would have been knocking on your door instead

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of me. Okay. But, but I think, Firstly, that

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was a remarkable victory over Portugal of all

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teams. Portugal, as we know, is one of the best

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teams in the world. They also have Cristiano

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Ronaldo, but Ronaldo actually got his first ever

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red card for the national team against Ireland.

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And it was part of the reason you managed to

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beat Portugal 2 -0. Am I right? Well, I wouldn't

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say that was the reason because we were already

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2 -0 up by the time Ronaldo got his red card.

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So we went up very early on. And, you know, a

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lot of people might look at that scoreline and

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think, oh, well, Portugal must have played, you

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know, their B team or, you know, put out a lot

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of youngsters. But no, all the big hitters were

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there. You know, you had Vitinha, João Neves,

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as you said, Cristiano Ronaldo was there, Bernardo

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Silva. All the kind of unusual names that you

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think of when it comes to Portuguese football

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were there, but went ahead through a set piece

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in the 16th minute and then Troy Parrott doubled

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his account. Troy Parrott. Everybody in Ireland

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knows this guy now, right? He scored a brace

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in this game. Two goals. Yes. Yeah. So it was

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emphatic. He was a hero in that game. And if

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that was not enough, he scored a hat -trick in

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the following game against Hungary away. And

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Hungary only needed one point in that game. And

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I think, were they in control most of the game

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or was it a bit nervy for them? I have to say,

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we kind of, watching it live, we came out a lot

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more timid than I thought we would. I mean, we

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were still playing positively, but Hungary are

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the type of team where they have the players

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to be able to kind of hold the ball for longer

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spells than we would. especially with the way

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that Ireland set up. We set up a lot more on

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the counter -attack with our kind of wide wing

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backs as well, providing that too. But yeah,

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it was just kind of, it was such a strange game

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because there was penalty shouts. There was all

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sorts of pushing and shoving an awful lot of

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the time. A lot of time wasting was going on.

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So it was kind of... A couple of times I kind

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of found myself laughing at the commentary team

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who were almost like saying, you know, this is,

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wow, Hungary are really wasting a lot of time

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here. I wonder how much the referee is going

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to add on at the end of the match. And it turned

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out to be just enough time for us. It was six

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minutes. They added on six minutes. The result

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was 2 -2 for a long time. Again, Troy Parrott

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scoring two goals. Again, a brace. But that wasn't

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enough for Ireland. You needed one more goal.

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And the clock was ticking. Yeah, they literally,

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so the Hungarians cleared the ball on the 95th

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minute and you could see up in the top, it says

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plus five, 501, 502 and it gets cleared away

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to the halfway line and everyone in the house

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and I'm sure everyone across the country is going,

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oh no, that's it, it's all gone. And then all

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of a sudden, the referee just lets us play on.

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And Kevin Callagher just pings this ball perfectly

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into the box, scales, gets the nod on, which

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is just as important, I think. You know, if he

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doesn't win that header, we don't have a chance.

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But he gets it on, gets it onwards towards the

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goal. And the man himself, the man of the moment,

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Troy Parrish, just touched it in ahead of the

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keeper. There was a lot to do for him. I saw

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that goal. Of course, at the clip, I think everybody

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has seen that. And that was just such a goal

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of courage and will. He really wanted to make

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that happen. He had to stretch his leg so, so

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bloody far. And I think he hit the ball with

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his sole of his foot. And it was just enough,

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like a small flick. But just to stretch, it was

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like yoga stretch or something. And it went in.

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And then the commentators, they were wondering,

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could that be an offside? But of course it wasn't.

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And I think everybody was ecstatic at that point.

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The Irish players, they just couldn't believe

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what had just happened. Troy Parrott took off

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his shirt, right? Started running around like

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a crazy person, celebrating his last clutch.

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This amazing goal that meant history for Ireland

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and all the fans, super happy. And I think you

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could see the desperation in Hungarian players'

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faces, right? Oh yeah, definitely. And especially,

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I think it was quite funny that... both matches

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the portugal match and the hungarian match both

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of the star players for both teams were doing

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the kind of cry baby uh just towards irish players

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irish fans and they ended up then getting the

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reverse treatment why would you ever do that

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against a team that also like believes in god

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so much and such a religious team it's like so

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much blasphemy for hungary to get involved in.

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And I saw Dominic Soboslai did that as well.

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I'm sorry. It's just karma. Like, why would you

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ever do anything like that? Just have respect

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for your opponents. Have just some sort of, at

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least like a minimal respect or I don't know

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how to put it, but like elementary respect for

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your opponents. You may not like them, right?

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You may not, you, you, you may hate your opponent,

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but at least like you're playing football, right?

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Anything can happen. don't when you score just

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enjoy the moment don't don't go laughing in in

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the face of your opponent when that happens i

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absolutely hate this this sort of thing because

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it always backfires yeah yeah absolutely no it

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was it was certainly kind of quite funny to see

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and especially when i saw shabazlai do it i said

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oh i remember somebody else who did that a couple

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of days ago and i was turning to my brother my

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brother was like shut up the games the game's

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not gonna go that way no there's no chance so

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now now this happened and and of course um i

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can tell you a little bit about about the czech

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national team's journey i'm afraid it's not as

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exciting as yours and it's not really as interesting

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Basically, we ended up in that larger group of

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five teams. I don't think there were that many

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of those. I think mostly the groups had just

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four teams, but we had five. And so we had Croatia

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there, who were the main favorite, and rightly

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so. They gave us no chance in Croatia. We lost

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5 -1 to them. And that set the tone for the rest

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of the qualification. Because even if we had...

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There was a moment when we were about to play

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them at home. And even if we had won that game,

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they had a better goal difference at that point.

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So it wouldn't have mattered much. But we drew

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that game 0 -0. But something even more incredible

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happened after that result. We lost to Faroe

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Islands. 2 -0 away from home. But Faroe Islands,

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of all teams. So the mood in the national team

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wasn't very good. After that, the coach was fired.

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Wow, okay. Yeah, the coach was fired. We still

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were in a comfortable position to finish second.

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So, because we managed to beat Montenegro twice.

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And then the other teams... How many did I say

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there were? Yeah, Faroe Islands and Gibraltar.

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Gibraltar was the other one. Yeah, you beat Gibraltar

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5 -6 -0, didn't you? That was the last. Yeah,

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but that was this latest qualification. It was

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this latest international break, right? So we

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had two games to play with the new interim manager

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or bridge manager, Jaroslav Kessel. And the first

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game was a friendly. Of all teams, we decided

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to invite San Marino. We played against San Marino

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at home. So I don't know, first of all, whose

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idea it was to play against a team like that.

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This is one of the, obviously, the strongest

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teams you can face in Europe. And we somehow

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scraped a 1 -0 victory over them. Wow. And we

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only had one shot on goal. And that's despite

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having a penalty because Socek blasted it wide.

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Oh my gosh. We had a penalty, which wasn't really

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a penalty. And then Socek scored the only goal.

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And then we had a lot of chances, but AO went.

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Nobody was hitting the target. So, like, we were

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the better team, you could say. But, like, 1

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-0 against San Marino, oh, my God. Such, we were

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in such terrible mood. Like, the whole nation,

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like, very skeptical. We can be a little bit

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like that, the Czechs. Like, we are not really

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super patriotic. We are only patriotic when the

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team is doing okay. But when... When we are in

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trouble, everybody starts blaming everyone and

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a little bit like that. So the mood in the team

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was very bad. And we have like this, we don't

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have that many fans, to be honest. We are a small

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country and also people like the club football

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at the moment more than the national team. But

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there is a group of fans, they call themselves

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the fanaticos or something like that. It's like

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the ultras. Ultras, yeah, yeah. And they were

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not really happy about this because we also,

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a few months before that, we also drew against

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Saudi Arabia at home. Then we lost to Faroe Islands

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and we only beat San Marino 1 -0. So I think

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the fans are starting to get a bit pissed off.

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And on social media, they organized some sort

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of, they prepared some sort of mini protest that

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they would shout in the following game, which

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was against Gibraltar. They would shout a chant.

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seeing something like fight for fight for Czechia

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fight for Czechia which sounds like nothing too

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bad right but it's just like it implies like

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you should try harder try harder but it's maybe

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a little bit provocative but not that much in

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my opinion it's not it's not like I I don't know

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it's They did that in that game against Gibraltar,

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which we started... It seemed to work anyway.

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They won 6 -0. Yeah, we scored in the second

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minute, the first goal. So we started off really

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well and kept scoring goals. Even Sofal scored

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a goal. And a few times they chanted that. Fight

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for Czechia. And then after the game, the players

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decided not to go. They thanked the stands like

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everywhere else, but they didn't go to the ultras.

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And the reason for that was that they got offended

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by the chant fight for Czechia, apparently. And

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then they were like not happy at all. It was

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like confusion. The commentators didn't know

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what was going on. And then after a few minutes,

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so Czech and so FAL. went to the stand to explain

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why they didn't go, because the fans were really

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pissed off, those ones, the Ultras. If we say

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Ultras, this was just a group of, I don't know,

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100 fans or 200 fans, but it's still, still,

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right? And they said something along the lines,

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like they had a microphone, they were shouting

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at each other, the players and the fans. And

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Socek got the microphone and he said, We just

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want more unity. We want to be together. We need

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you. But we also didn't come to thank you today.

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It was just such a... And the players, they got

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so much stick for that from the media, from everyone,

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from the fans. Wow. So much heavy criticism was

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levied on them. And Socek, as a result of this,

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was also stripped of captaincy. I don't know

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if it's for one game only. I'm not sure. Forever,

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I don't know, but it was just such, it had a

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real impact. Can you imagine, right? So instead

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of celebrating a decent win, 6 -0 win, and securing

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the second spot in the group, there's so much

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negativity. The journalists were talking about

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that incident more than the game, obviously.

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And Socek is also such a nice guy, right? So

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there's a lot of speculation. Was this even his

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idea? Okay. Did they just plant him there? Did

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they say, hey, somebody needs to say something?

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Was he speaking for the players? What about Sofal?

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Sofal, he was crazy there. He was like, somebody

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was shouting things like, you dig head and things

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like that. Fans would do that, but he shouted

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back at them as well, like something similar.

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And it was all caught on camera as well, right?

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Okay. So, absolute mad scenes. Yeah? Yeah. The

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players didn't get the bonus as well. So there

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was a decision. Because Pavel Nedved is now the...

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Director of the national team, isn't he? Or is

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he the... Spokesperson? I don't know exactly

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the role. I can't remember the role. But he's

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got some sort of a role like that. Sports director,

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maybe? He's not the chairman, obviously. A general

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manager. General manager, right? So he sort of

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speaks for the team like that in the press conference.

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And they're all saying, we didn't know about

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this. Nobody knew about this. It was the player's

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decision, right? Even the coach didn't know about

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it. I don't understand how coach couldn't know

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about it. Shouldn't coach go with the team to

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thank the fans? I always thought that after the

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game, it's not just the players, it's the coach

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too. So how can coach not know about it? I don't

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get it. Basically, it was Socek's responsibility.

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He went there. Even if it wasn't his idea, he

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went there. And so I think it's the right decision

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to do that to him. You think it's the right decision

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to take the captaincy away from him? Yeah, because

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it was such a disaster, such a sort of PR disaster.

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Right before a playoff. It wasn't the first one

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as well. We have had so many strange moments

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in the game. against Faroe Islands. There was

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another player, Václav Černý, in an interview.

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He walked away from the interview because they

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asked him a question he didn't want to hear.

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Too much arrogance, basically, from players who

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have been playing shit. Yeah? So... It's a real

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mess. And now there was this draw. So at least

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we secured... We had to beat San Marino and Gibraltar.

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By the way, we had to beat even San Marino. to

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make this happen, to keep that pot two. Pot two

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was important for us because pot two meant we

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would play the first game at home. But we had

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to beat San Marino. We beat them 1 -0. And then

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Gibraltar. We had to beat Gibraltar. So we did

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it. And those are like two worst teams in Europe.

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Like if you look at the ranking, there are no

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worse teams than those two, basically. They're

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pretty low. And to be honest, Actually, Gibraltar

00:21:48.789 --> 00:21:51.029
were way worse than San Marino. San Marino were

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very, very... They kept running the whole game.

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They didn't give up. They just defended really

00:21:55.750 --> 00:21:59.750
well. Gibraltar was an easier opponent. Okay,

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okay. So how do you feel going then into the

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playoffs then from your perspective? Because

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to me anyway, obviously being able to play at

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home is a massive advantage. But with all the

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stuff that you've just explained there... Will

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it actually be an advantage for you guys to be

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at home and playing in front of those fans again?

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I think it has to be. It has to be because there

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is a massive difference if we had to play in

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Ireland with your crowd going crazy. It would

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be the same like playing in Scotland or any other

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team. To be honest, there was a good chance we

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could go to the Balkans. So we could either get

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you, Albania, Kosovo. Yeah, there was a couple

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of them that were in the kind of scene. And one

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more. Bosnia. Bosnia, yeah. So we were happy.

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It's better. Okay, 20 ,000 stadium is not much.

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The biggest stadiums are the Sparta or Slavia

00:23:00.970 --> 00:23:03.410
stadium. I think it will be one of those. But

00:23:03.410 --> 00:23:06.609
it will be mostly Czech fans there, right? Supporting

00:23:06.609 --> 00:23:09.250
the Czech team. So it's a huge advantage. And

00:23:09.250 --> 00:23:14.109
if that wasn't enough, we also drew... The second

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game would be a home game for us too. That was

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50 -50. So if we beat you somehow, then the next

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game would be against either Macedonia or Denmark

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at home. And yes, I know Denmark is a good team,

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not to underestimate Macedonia, but I think the

00:23:37.130 --> 00:23:39.210
draw is actually favorable for the Czech team

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because there was a chance to get Italy or Turkey.

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or ukraine or poland i think so this is actually

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not too bad now i want to ask you how you feel

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about this then because i don't know if you wanted

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czech republic or would you have taken someone

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else instead or oh look i think that you know

00:24:01.299 --> 00:24:05.720
as soon as the result and the kind of dust settled

00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:08.730
from the from the Hungarian game, a lot of people

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started looking at all the different permutations

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and results that needed to go our way if we wanted

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to have a home draw for the semi -final of the

00:24:19.450 --> 00:24:23.309
playoffs. And that was just kind of like, I think,

00:24:23.309 --> 00:24:26.529
more hope than anything else. I don't think we

00:24:26.529 --> 00:24:28.710
were really rooting or expecting to be at home

00:24:28.710 --> 00:24:32.309
for the semi -final. So I think the players would

00:24:32.309 --> 00:24:37.480
be fairly prepared for that going in there. In

00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:40.759
terms of our chances, look, at this stage with

00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:42.819
this team, I don't really know what to expect.

00:24:43.019 --> 00:24:45.259
They could come out and they could put on another

00:24:45.259 --> 00:24:47.240
fantastic display. They could come out and they

00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:50.859
can get absolutely annihilated. It's in March

00:24:50.859 --> 00:24:53.420
as well, so it's so far away. Yeah, it's far

00:24:53.420 --> 00:24:56.619
away, right? A lot can happen. Injuries, four

00:24:56.619 --> 00:25:00.140
players formed. But you have that momentum, and

00:25:00.140 --> 00:25:03.420
now this is like a historic moment, right? Everybody

00:25:03.420 --> 00:25:06.019
was talking about it. The whole world knew what

00:25:06.019 --> 00:25:08.019
happened there. It's such a great story for you.

00:25:08.099 --> 00:25:11.240
And Paris scoring five goals, like the most famous

00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:17.259
bird in years. Yeah, well, that's the thing that's

00:25:17.259 --> 00:25:20.140
going around. The slogan, I guess, that's going

00:25:20.140 --> 00:25:23.420
around is that we sent a turkey to the Eurovision.

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Now we're sending a Paris to the World Cup. back

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in the days when we sent oh my god Ireland sent

00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:33.180
like a a puppet turkey character to the Eurovision

00:25:33.180 --> 00:25:37.059
one year for whatever reason but no I think that

00:25:37.059 --> 00:25:40.900
you know the big thing for me is obviously as

00:25:40.900 --> 00:25:43.740
you say form and injuries the big question would

00:25:43.740 --> 00:25:48.660
be what happens when if Evan Ferguson is fit

00:25:48.660 --> 00:25:53.359
by the time March rolls around Does the manager

00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.819
stick with Parrott up top? Does he try and change

00:25:56.819 --> 00:25:59.059
things and put Ferguson and Parrott up there?

00:26:00.859 --> 00:26:04.819
Parrott has to play. Literally, he single -handedly

00:26:04.819 --> 00:26:10.859
made this happen for you. All five goals. He

00:26:10.859 --> 00:26:14.500
was second fiddle to Ferguson the last while

00:26:14.500 --> 00:26:17.019
anyway, but now that you've seen he's gotten

00:26:17.019 --> 00:26:19.420
his chance, he's really taking it with both hands.

00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:28.200
Which is great to see from an Irish fan's perspective,

00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:31.980
you know, a young guy, 23 years old. There's

00:26:31.980 --> 00:26:33.940
the possibility for, you know, building a team

00:26:33.940 --> 00:26:36.140
around him because, you know, for the longest

00:26:36.140 --> 00:26:40.079
time, the last couple of years, everybody kind

00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:42.940
of was down to the dumps about this team. And,

00:26:42.940 --> 00:26:45.200
you know, our best player we always thought was

00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.390
Queevin Keller, our goalkeeper. He still might

00:26:48.390 --> 00:26:50.430
be. I mean, he's a fantastic goalkeeper. But

00:26:50.430 --> 00:26:53.970
yeah, it's good to have an outfield player now,

00:26:54.009 --> 00:26:56.930
at least, that we can kind of build around to

00:26:56.930 --> 00:27:00.569
be the centerpiece of the team. Well, Arti, we

00:27:00.569 --> 00:27:03.150
don't even have a coach now. So we have an interim

00:27:03.150 --> 00:27:07.450
coach. And it's someone. He's like an up -and

00:27:07.450 --> 00:27:09.470
-coming young manager. He's younger than me.

00:27:10.190 --> 00:27:13.589
He's like 37 or 80 years old, maybe older than

00:27:13.589 --> 00:27:16.450
you, probably, right? But you're like... In your

00:27:16.450 --> 00:27:19.910
30s, right, as well? Just 30 now, yeah. Yeah,

00:27:19.910 --> 00:27:26.390
nice. Welcome, welcome. So what's interesting

00:27:26.390 --> 00:27:28.930
about this guy is that he had never been the

00:27:28.930 --> 00:27:33.069
main coach before. So it's a real question whether

00:27:33.069 --> 00:27:38.009
we should take such a huge risk. Yes, he's got

00:27:38.009 --> 00:27:42.289
credit in the bank beating San Marino and...

00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:46.599
Gibraltar. What fantastic credit to have. Is

00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:50.079
that enough? He's got 100 % record after those

00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:53.380
two games. You could say that. But we haven't

00:27:53.380 --> 00:27:57.420
played a better team yet. He hasn't coached his

00:27:57.420 --> 00:28:00.839
team against a better team. So that's the question.

00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:05.839
There are suggestions of hiring Fatih Terim,

00:28:05.940 --> 00:28:10.809
the Turkish manager who is now like... I don't

00:28:10.809 --> 00:28:15.509
know, in his 70s or 80s. Very, very old. Super

00:28:15.509 --> 00:28:23.970
old. Or Jürgen Klinsmann. A lot of experience,

00:28:24.069 --> 00:28:28.650
I suppose. Yeah, well, he coached the American

00:28:28.650 --> 00:28:30.930
national team before. But apparently, we don't

00:28:30.930 --> 00:28:33.650
have money for those. They're too expensive for

00:28:33.650 --> 00:28:37.960
us. These were Pavel Nedved's ideas. But now

00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:40.880
we found out that they are asking for too much

00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:43.240
money. So we're looking for a cheaper solution.

00:28:43.700 --> 00:28:49.240
But cheaper isn't always better, right? I'll

00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:51.339
do it. I'll do it. I'll do a temporary thing.

00:28:51.460 --> 00:28:53.980
I'll do it until March, and there'll be absolutely

00:28:53.980 --> 00:28:57.339
no ulterior motive whatsoever. Yeah, you're Irish.

00:28:57.539 --> 00:29:00.880
I don't think that's a good idea. You go against

00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.519
your own team. I think you would be like an agent,

00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:07.619
secret agent there. Just not going to play. Not

00:29:07.619 --> 00:29:09.380
going to play Suchek, not going to play Suphal,

00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:10.960
Patrick Schick. We'll leave Patrick Schick at

00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:13.500
home. Just leave them all, all the best players.

00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:15.880
Might be a good idea because he was the worst

00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:20.839
player against Gibraltar. He hit the post once

00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.839
and missed all his chances and it was other players

00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:28.200
scoring, not him. Yeah, so we are both looking

00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:31.039
forward to this game, I suppose. We're still

00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:34.029
friends. Until this game happens, I think, yeah.

00:29:34.930 --> 00:29:37.210
We'll have the common, you know, the Arsenal

00:29:37.210 --> 00:29:40.089
thing to bond over and keep close over, you know,

00:29:40.109 --> 00:29:42.930
in the meantime. But then as soon as March rolls

00:29:42.930 --> 00:29:44.569
around Zdeněk, I don't want to see your face

00:29:44.569 --> 00:29:48.849
for like a month. I think, well, whoever loses

00:29:48.849 --> 00:29:52.109
their game, I think one of us, that person wouldn't

00:29:52.109 --> 00:29:54.910
want to see the other. I think the winner of

00:29:54.910 --> 00:29:58.119
that game wouldn't mind. whoever loses that.

00:29:58.220 --> 00:30:01.059
So that's why I think we can agree not to see

00:30:01.059 --> 00:30:04.380
each other until maybe Arsenal wins the title.

00:30:04.460 --> 00:30:06.759
Then we can have another podcast to celebrate

00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:11.119
Arsenal's title victory. That would be okay,

00:30:11.140 --> 00:30:16.279
I guess. Touch wood. Nice one, Kyle. Thanks very

00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:19.579
much for featuring on the FootGlish podcast and

00:30:19.579 --> 00:30:22.180
have a good one, man. Always a pleasure. Thanks

00:30:22.180 --> 00:30:30.299
a million, Zdenek. Take care. Welcome back to

00:30:30.299 --> 00:30:32.940
the Language Corner. As always, in this part

00:30:32.940 --> 00:30:35.440
of the show, I'm going to take a look at the

00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.900
English language because I assume you guys know

00:30:38.900 --> 00:30:42.180
that this is an English learning podcast. So

00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:45.799
not only do we talk about football here and you

00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.099
have the opportunity to listen to the interview

00:30:48.099 --> 00:30:52.160
with my guest, but... Importantly, we also explain

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here some vocabulary, grammar, pronunciation.

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Usually it's vocabulary. And today I would like

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to take a look at some phrasal verbs that were

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said by us in the interview. Mostly it was Carl.

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That's because he is from Ireland. He's a native

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speaker. And native speakers notoriously use

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a lot of phrasal verbs. And that's why we are

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often puzzled and confused. And also, I have

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to say, it is a challenge to learn phrasal verbs

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because there are so many of them. They all look

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very similar. They have multiple meanings. And

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so they can be a bit of a nightmare. However,

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I'm here to make everything easier for you because,

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guys, I'm an English teacher in case you didn't

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know it. I think you knew that. But let's get

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started, shall we? I asked Carl, how on earth

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did you pull that off? How did you manage to

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finish second? So basically, I was referring

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to Ireland's fantastic finish in their qualification

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group. And to pull something off is a very nice

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phrasal verb, which means to manage something,

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to manage to do something, to achieve something,

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right? So how did you... Managed to achieve that.

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How on earth did you pull that off? P -U -L -L

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and the particle is off. To pull something off.

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Then Carl said, we didn't start well. We ended

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up losing to Armenia. So if you end up doing

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something, it is followed by another verb in

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an I -N -G form. So we ended up losing to Armenia.

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That's what happened to Ireland. And if you end

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up doing something, it means you finally do something

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or something finally happens, often unintentionally

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or unexpectedly. So there is an element of a

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surprise or there is a twist to the story, basically.

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And it's a result of a series of actions or events.

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In this case, it... The actions were like several

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games, I guess, or the match itself, right? And

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maybe they played all right in that game, but

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then they ended up losing. So there's like a

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contrast twist to the story. Right. A lot of

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people thought Portugal team must have played

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their B team or put out a lot of youngsters.

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So basically... That was how everyone was surprised

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about Ireland's win over Portugal. But actually,

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they played their best team with Ronaldo up front.

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And so Carl said a lot of people thought that

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Portugal must have played their B team or put

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out a lot of youngsters. So if you put out a

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lot of players who are young, youngsters, the

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verb to put out can have a lot of different meanings.

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But here it means... to sort of deploy, to like

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distribute, like how to explain it. Basically,

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this is the lineup you put out, right? If you

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are the manager of the Irish team, the Ireland

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national team, the Irish team, then you basically

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put out these players. You deploy these players,

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right? Does it make sense? I hope so. we set

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up a lot more for counterattacks against Portugal.

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That's another sort of phrase or verb that Carl

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used. If you set up in a certain way, it means

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that you establish some sort of system that you...

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come up with some kind of strategy. That's what

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it means here. You can set up a company as well,

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organization. You can set up a system, set up

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a way of working, way of thinking, right? So

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it's something formal usually that has some kind

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of structure. Right. I don't really know what

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to expect. They could come out and put on another

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great performance. They could come out and get

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annihilated. So I think this was when I asked

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Carl what he thinks about the game against Czechia,

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which will happen in March next year, and what

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he expects to happen in that game. And he said

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they could come out and put on another great

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performance. So if you come out, you sort of

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appear, right? You begin performing, you come

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out, you begin performing, you begin... playing,

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you appear, right? You come out and put on another

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great performance. This is used together, put

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on a performance. If you put on a performance,

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you present or produce a performance, right?

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That's clear. I think these phrasal verbs are

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self -explanatory, some of them anyway. Then

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Carl said, that's the slogan. There's a slogan

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that's going around. We send a turkey to Eurovision,

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which is some kind of puppet. of a turkey, the

00:36:13.860 --> 00:36:19.760
bird, right? Which is like a joke, I guess. And

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now we are sending a parrot to the World Cup,

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right? So basically the Irish have a good sense

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of humor. But when there is a slogan going around,

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right? That means it's circulating. It's doing

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the rounds. It's sort of widespread. It's popular.

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People are talking about it. In this case, maybe

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it was in the media. People were spreading this

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sort of joke or whatever. Right. Next. The big

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question is what happens if Ferguson, the Irish

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striker Ferguson, is fit by the time March rolls

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around? I noticed Carl used this phrasal verb

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to roll around twice in this interview. And it

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basically means... comes when march comes as

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you can see it's often used with certain time

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expressions like in this case the month month

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march when the mars comes around or rolls around

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or comes in this case Okay, guys, I think that's

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it for today. I know it was a bit longer. I hope

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you enjoyed it. Please let me know what you thought,

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how you enjoyed it or not. You know, we are ready

00:37:28.789 --> 00:37:32.369
to accept critical comments as well because it's

00:37:32.369 --> 00:37:35.590
part of this business. It's not really a business

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for me. I do this just for fun. But you never

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know. One day it could become super popular.

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Well, not with the consistency of the recent

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months that I've been having here. But I thought

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this was a good opportunity to actually put something

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