WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.419 You're listening to the FootGlish podcast. Love 00:00:03.419 --> 00:00:09.699 football, learn English. Tottenham Hotspur champions 00:00:09.699 --> 00:00:14.439 of Europe. Are Spurs fans dreaming or is this 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:18.300 reality? Were Spurs the better team against United 00:00:18.300 --> 00:00:24.079 or not? Would Tottenham fans take a 17th position 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:27.640 in the league and winning a major trophy? if 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:30.539 someone had offered this to them at the start 00:00:30.539 --> 00:00:34.060 of the season. And what does nowhere near something 00:00:34.060 --> 00:00:57.179 mean? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another 00:00:57.179 --> 00:01:00.020 episode of the Footgrish podcast. It's been a 00:01:00.020 --> 00:01:03.759 while. I don't record a podcast every week as 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:07.840 I used to. Because, you know, why is that? I 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.260 don't know. I guess I have burnt out a bit. I 00:01:11.260 --> 00:01:15.340 guess I'm not as into football as I was before. 00:01:15.459 --> 00:01:17.859 It's been too much of football. So I think this 00:01:17.859 --> 00:01:19.620 is a wonderful opportunity for the listeners 00:01:19.620 --> 00:01:23.579 to... Catch up with us, with me and with my friend 00:01:23.579 --> 00:01:26.680 David, aka Jenks. Which one do you prefer, Jenks 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:28.780 or David? Either is fine. Probably David for 00:01:28.780 --> 00:01:32.000 your listeners is better. David. David from England. 00:01:32.500 --> 00:01:35.260 A Tottenham fan. We are going to talk about Tottenham, 00:01:35.299 --> 00:01:37.939 but before we do, this is the FootGlish podcast. 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:40.640 Everyone, it's a podcast where you can learn 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:45.439 English through football. And David, I have to 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:49.670 start like this. Tottenham Hotspur. The Spurs 00:01:49.670 --> 00:01:53.269 with a trophy. And also, Champions of Europe. 00:01:55.150 --> 00:01:58.870 Something which Arsenal can't sing. And that 00:01:58.870 --> 00:02:00.790 will probably be sung at the first game against... 00:02:00.790 --> 00:02:03.189 That will definitely be sung at the first game 00:02:03.189 --> 00:02:05.689 next year against Arsenal. Champions of Europe, 00:02:05.769 --> 00:02:08.310 you'll never sing that. Yeah, absolutely. You 00:02:08.310 --> 00:02:10.550 are going to take the piss now because you've 00:02:10.550 --> 00:02:12.930 done that for a long, long time. Yeah, because 00:02:12.930 --> 00:02:14.449 I'm not surprised that you haven't been watching 00:02:14.449 --> 00:02:16.870 football for a while because Arsenal since, obviously. 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:19.639 You got knocked out and the West Ham are having 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:21.599 a poor season. It's part of that, you're right. 00:02:21.819 --> 00:02:23.879 If your team's not doing well... Yeah, yeah, 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.539 you're losing that interest. You're still sort 00:02:26.539 --> 00:02:28.919 of supporting them, but you're losing that interest. 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:31.620 You might be right, to be honest with you. But 00:02:31.620 --> 00:02:35.620 anyway, so how are you feeling? How are you feeling 00:02:35.620 --> 00:02:42.419 about this? No, obviously very emotional, very... 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:46.159 It was, honestly, it was quite surreal. It didn't 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:48.740 sink in straight away. So the game was at 2am 00:02:48.740 --> 00:02:52.039 here in Vietnam. Watched it in a pub with a friend 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:54.159 and then obviously there were other Spurs and 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:57.099 United supporters there. Great atmosphere, really 00:02:57.099 --> 00:02:59.180 friendly between the supporters as well, which 00:02:59.180 --> 00:03:04.430 was nice. A lot of people in the pub. It was 00:03:04.430 --> 00:03:07.750 surreal seeing those images afterwards of Son, 00:03:08.169 --> 00:03:11.330 Bissouma, Romero. It's like, because it's something 00:03:11.330 --> 00:03:15.430 that hasn't happened. I mean, I was at university 00:03:15.430 --> 00:03:19.030 when we won the Carling Cup. 2008 with Berbatov 00:03:19.030 --> 00:03:21.949 and Keane. That was in 2008. Yeah, and I cried 00:03:21.949 --> 00:03:24.310 then. I was super happy then because that was 00:03:24.310 --> 00:03:27.830 the first real trophy for me. For you, David, 00:03:28.729 --> 00:03:31.530 or for your team. That I remember for my team. 00:03:31.530 --> 00:03:33.830 You also touched the trophy, not physically, 00:03:34.110 --> 00:03:36.169 not like for you personally. Obviously, I'm a 00:03:36.169 --> 00:03:38.389 football manager, I've won a lot more. You've 00:03:38.389 --> 00:03:41.669 been the game football manager. The one before 00:03:41.669 --> 00:03:45.210 that was 1999, but I'd have only been... 10 or 00:03:45.210 --> 00:03:47.349 11. I don't really remember that, to be honest. 00:03:48.409 --> 00:03:51.330 So, yeah, yesterday, I mean, we've had so many 00:03:51.330 --> 00:03:54.050 great teams, especially that Pochettino team, 00:03:54.189 --> 00:03:55.650 which is probably the best in England. You mean 00:03:55.650 --> 00:03:57.550 when you got into the Champions League final? 00:03:57.569 --> 00:04:00.250 Yeah, even a bit before that. The one a little 00:04:00.250 --> 00:04:02.050 bit, probably the season before, because that 00:04:02.050 --> 00:04:04.780 year we weren't great. But we were probably the 00:04:04.780 --> 00:04:07.060 best team, statistically, for two years. And 00:04:07.060 --> 00:04:11.900 Kane and Son, that amazing duo, when they were 00:04:11.900 --> 00:04:14.419 scoring left, right and centre. Even before that, 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:18.160 like Deleague, Eriksen, Dembele, world -class 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:19.779 players in every position. There wasn't a position 00:04:19.779 --> 00:04:21.759 where you could... Gareth Bale, yeah. Gareth 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:24.899 Bale was before that. But the Walker, Alderweireld, 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:27.439 Vertonghen, Rose, Dembele, Wanyama... Christian 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:30.550 Eriksen. Dembele. That team was... far better 00:04:30.550 --> 00:04:32.149 than this team, but they just couldn't get over 00:04:32.149 --> 00:04:34.689 the line. But this one did it without Harry Kane 00:04:34.689 --> 00:04:37.209 as well. Yeah, which is ironic. I wonder what 00:04:37.209 --> 00:04:40.089 he thinks. I know he's won his Bundesliga, but... 00:04:40.089 --> 00:04:41.930 He had to leave for you to win something. I bet 00:04:41.930 --> 00:04:45.689 he regrets it now. Do you think he regrets it? 00:04:45.810 --> 00:04:48.269 Yeah, I do, because I think... I mean, he obviously 00:04:48.269 --> 00:04:50.589 went to Bayern because he knew they'd win. Wait, 00:04:50.629 --> 00:04:52.589 wait, wait. You think he didn't go to Bayern 00:04:52.589 --> 00:04:54.610 because he thought he wouldn't win anything with 00:04:54.610 --> 00:04:57.350 Tottenham? Yeah, he knew it was a risk staying 00:04:57.350 --> 00:05:01.410 at Tottenham. Obviously, you're not guaranteed 00:05:01.410 --> 00:05:04.370 to win, but you probably won't win at Tottenham. 00:05:04.790 --> 00:05:07.750 But at Bayern, he picked a club that obviously 00:05:07.750 --> 00:05:10.310 will win, probably with or without him. They 00:05:10.310 --> 00:05:12.110 didn't win anything the first season, though. 00:05:12.189 --> 00:05:13.829 Yeah, but that was ironic as well. That's because 00:05:13.829 --> 00:05:16.069 he came. Yeah, but they won the previous eight. 00:05:16.709 --> 00:05:20.490 What I mean is he didn't choose a club like Napoli, 00:05:20.629 --> 00:05:23.149 which might win or might not win. Hang on, you're 00:05:23.149 --> 00:05:25.870 speaking about Napoli that won the Serie A? They're 00:05:25.870 --> 00:05:28.360 not guaranteed, are they? Even Liverpool, if 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:29.720 he went to Liverpool, they're not guaranteed 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:32.459 it. Man City are the favourites. He picked a 00:05:32.459 --> 00:05:36.639 club that he knew he'd win. So if he stayed there 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:38.279 long enough, there's no way Bayern weren't going 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:40.100 to win like four years. That is true. It was 00:05:40.100 --> 00:05:44.019 guaranteed. I think that's part of the joy of 00:05:44.019 --> 00:05:48.379 last night. It was just kind of disbelief. How 00:05:48.379 --> 00:05:51.379 many nights did you celebrate this, Jenks? You 00:05:51.379 --> 00:05:54.139 don't even remember when you won. I took the 00:05:54.139 --> 00:05:56.579 day off work the next day. Why? Did you? Did 00:05:56.579 --> 00:05:58.600 you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, wait, wait. What 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.579 did you tell? So David here is an English teacher 00:06:01.579 --> 00:06:04.800 viewers. So what did you tell the headmaster 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:08.339 then? I'm sorry, boss. I can't come to work because 00:06:08.339 --> 00:06:11.899 Tottenham had won the... Tottenham won the first 00:06:11.899 --> 00:06:15.439 trophy since 2008. Obviously, I took it off a 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:17.639 week or two before. I said, Tottenham will play 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.019 that night. I'm going to watch it. And I won't 00:06:20.019 --> 00:06:22.300 be in a state to be at work the next day. And 00:06:22.300 --> 00:06:24.480 it was funny because I watched it with my colleague 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:26.779 who did have to go to work the next day because 00:06:26.779 --> 00:06:30.180 he hadn't thought ahead. So, yeah. You were the 00:06:30.180 --> 00:06:35.519 smarter one. You plan ahead with Tottenham. I'd 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:39.029 say I watch most games. Okay. Even now, there's 00:06:39.029 --> 00:06:41.129 probably a league. Did you, like, scream? Like, 00:06:41.209 --> 00:06:43.170 that pub you went to, it's like an Irish pub, 00:06:43.310 --> 00:06:46.430 right? Here in Dunham. Did you, like, celebrate 00:06:46.430 --> 00:06:48.649 properly? Like, were you shouting and screaming? 00:06:48.889 --> 00:06:52.350 Everyone. There's very much Euros in the summer. 00:06:52.490 --> 00:06:55.339 Or Spurs fans in the... In the pub? Probably 00:06:55.339 --> 00:06:58.439 outnumbered. Man United are everywhere, so I 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:01.540 would say it was like 70 -30 % Man United fans. 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.199 So did you take the piss out of them? It's not 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:09.000 really my style to do that. No, that's not true. 00:07:09.100 --> 00:07:11.620 When I went to watch the North London derby, 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:13.620 I remember what you did there. In real life, 00:07:13.699 --> 00:07:15.660 I'm like that, but not in football. It's too 00:07:15.660 --> 00:07:18.259 tense for me. I'm too nervous. I'm too tense. 00:07:18.339 --> 00:07:20.899 I'm very, very tense with football, so I'm quite 00:07:20.899 --> 00:07:24.560 well behaved. That's good, man. No, I thought 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:26.339 of you. Like, when you won it, I thought of two 00:07:26.339 --> 00:07:28.579 people. Andrzej, who has been on this podcast, 00:07:28.740 --> 00:07:32.519 my other friend, and you as well, because I don't 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:34.980 have that many Tottenham fans. And let me tell 00:07:34.980 --> 00:07:36.819 you this. So I'm an Arsenal fan, so obviously 00:07:36.819 --> 00:07:40.300 we never want to see you win anything at all. 00:07:40.420 --> 00:07:43.019 And you will probably think the same about Arsenal. 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.620 But to be honest, like, I'm not that bothered 00:07:46.620 --> 00:07:50.759 anymore because you guys have signed Antonin 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:53.529 Kinski. who is the Czech goalkeeper. And for 00:07:53.529 --> 00:07:57.050 that reason, I'm not unhappy that this happened. 00:07:57.209 --> 00:08:00.930 I'm a Czech fan. So for me, I'm more of a Czech 00:08:00.930 --> 00:08:04.629 fan than I am an Arsenal fan, I would say. That's 00:08:04.629 --> 00:08:09.170 why I also sort of lean towards supporting West 00:08:09.170 --> 00:08:12.189 Ham while the Czech boys are there. I get it 00:08:12.189 --> 00:08:14.370 as well. I think social media has made rivalry. 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:17.980 become a bit nasty and become not really what 00:08:17.980 --> 00:08:20.759 it's about social media so like rubbing it in 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:22.600 your face like the whole mockery of the trophy 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:24.720 thing that wouldn't have happened before social 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:27.220 media so even like when West Ham I'm from Essex 00:08:27.220 --> 00:08:29.560 so it's West Ham Tottenham kind of territory 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:31.920 more West Ham than Tottenham actually so when 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:34.919 my when West Ham won the conference league my 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.600 brother's a West Ham fan I wasn't like unhappy 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:41.620 because of him and he's he's the same now because 00:08:41.620 --> 00:08:43.779 of this for me I think some people are just more 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:46.679 I also buy into the whole social media kind of 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:49.940 fandom. Yeah, they are exaggerating everything. 00:08:50.259 --> 00:08:52.220 The channels. Perhaps if you live in the area, 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.799 it's different. If I live there and I had to 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:57.139 go to school with a bunch of West Ham fans, then 00:08:57.139 --> 00:09:00.299 I'd be... But still, it's okay if it's a bit, 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.340 you know, it's part of that banter, part of that 00:09:02.340 --> 00:09:05.320 culture of sort of you take piss off your mates 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:08.299 because, you know, it's just this. culture right 00:09:08.299 --> 00:09:10.360 it's fine I think it's football like I used to 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:13.240 play football for 20 years everyone so I remember 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.899 I remember the rivalry and even if it's two villages 00:09:16.899 --> 00:09:20.299 that are next to each other you know that's fine 00:09:20.299 --> 00:09:23.679 but like I said for Antonin Kinski for the Czech 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:26.120 goalkeeper who is number two at the moment I 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:28.759 think at Tottenham I'm very happy for him in 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:34.580 the Premier League though well this is the bizarre 00:09:34.580 --> 00:09:39.049 thing because apparently He got the medal. He 00:09:39.049 --> 00:09:41.529 got the medal, which he wasn't supposed to because 00:09:41.529 --> 00:09:43.850 he wasn't even part of the team, of the European 00:09:43.850 --> 00:09:46.549 team. And some didn't get it. We got it later 00:09:46.549 --> 00:09:48.669 because there were 50 that we got. But he didn't 00:09:48.669 --> 00:09:50.830 get it for the presentation. Who made a mistake? 00:09:50.970 --> 00:09:53.789 Was it Kinski being cheeky and trying to just 00:09:53.789 --> 00:09:56.429 get the medal or something? I think probably... 00:09:56.700 --> 00:10:00.279 No, I think you've got to... Because Son, of 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.580 all people, he's the captain. He's the heart 00:10:02.580 --> 00:10:04.659 and soul of your team, right? Romero didn't get 00:10:04.659 --> 00:10:06.279 it because he went up just before Son as well, 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:08.860 obviously. That makes things better. Probably 00:10:08.860 --> 00:10:10.399 our best player. Yeah, it wasn't just Son. There 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:12.580 were three of them. Oh, really? Kinsey got one. 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:14.940 He's not registered. Sergio Reguilon got one. 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:17.320 He's not registered. So it was a bit random. 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:20.679 Yeah, but to finish my point, David, yeah. So 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:23.039 the reason I'm okay with this... I can't say 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:25.080 I'm happy, I'm sorry, but I'm okay with this. 00:10:25.529 --> 00:10:27.970 Because of Kinski, because of him having the 00:10:27.970 --> 00:10:30.549 chance to play the Champions League. This is 00:10:30.549 --> 00:10:33.230 a bizarre season for Spurs, right? You're currently 00:10:33.230 --> 00:10:37.029 sitting in the 17th position, right? Which is 00:10:37.029 --> 00:10:40.490 like the worst ever. Well, we got relegated in 00:10:40.490 --> 00:10:44.409 82. Okay, well, apart from that, only because 00:10:44.409 --> 00:10:48.230 there are three worst teams, all of them... We 00:10:48.230 --> 00:10:49.889 were promoted last season, right? Leicester, 00:10:49.889 --> 00:10:53.529 Ipswich and what was the last one? Southampton. 00:10:53.870 --> 00:10:58.490 Southampton. So now it's you there and then obviously 00:10:58.490 --> 00:11:02.470 Manchester United are 16th. So it was the strangest 00:11:02.470 --> 00:11:04.570 thing that had ever happened in football in years. 00:11:04.909 --> 00:11:08.090 And you managed to clinch. I think what I will 00:11:08.090 --> 00:11:11.309 say about this is that you can consider your 00:11:11.309 --> 00:11:14.750 season successful while United, for them it's 00:11:14.750 --> 00:11:18.200 an absolute disaster. That's what it came down 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:23.279 to as well. It was such a game of nerves, I would 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:25.799 say. Yeah, it was an awful game. But for the 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:27.779 supporters, it was very gripping. I'd imagine 00:11:27.779 --> 00:11:29.960 if you watched it as a neutral, it would be quite... 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:32.899 I watched the first half. I couldn't watch the 00:11:32.899 --> 00:11:35.080 rest. I'll be honest with you. I just didn't 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.639 like it at all. If you're not 4 -1 on the team, 00:11:37.740 --> 00:11:39.399 but if you're 4 -1 on the team, it was very, 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.789 very, very tense. I think our... I don't think 00:11:43.789 --> 00:11:45.990 you can really compare United's season with Tottenham's 00:11:45.990 --> 00:11:48.950 season because people always say, oh, there's 00:11:48.950 --> 00:11:51.850 injuries, but... So they don't... They say there's 00:11:51.850 --> 00:11:54.509 an excuse, but then they just discount it completely. 00:11:54.970 --> 00:11:57.809 I think Tottenham's season... I think you can 00:11:57.809 --> 00:12:00.909 make excuses for Tottenham's season. Sorry. I 00:12:00.909 --> 00:12:05.950 think the first half is... So the first... Up 00:12:05.950 --> 00:12:08.090 until the first third was OK. We were kind of 00:12:08.090 --> 00:12:09.629 in and around Europa League, Champions League 00:12:09.629 --> 00:12:13.580 positions. And then we got hit by awful injuries. 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.980 And I'm talking like Christian Romero, Mickey 00:12:16.980 --> 00:12:20.279 Van Der Ven, out for three, four months. Other 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:23.179 fans don't understand how good those two are. 00:12:23.299 --> 00:12:25.419 You had other teams that this happened to. It's 00:12:25.419 --> 00:12:28.740 not just you. No, no, no. It was just us. Man 00:12:28.740 --> 00:12:31.419 City had injuries, but nowhere near the extent 00:12:31.419 --> 00:12:35.039 that Tottenham had these injuries. Man City are 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:37.899 an oil club who have the money to buy whoever 00:12:37.899 --> 00:12:40.299 they want. As you can see in January, they just... 00:12:40.330 --> 00:12:43.009 Spent 200 million or whatever on the best player 00:12:43.009 --> 00:12:46.009 in Germany, best defender in France, and just 00:12:46.009 --> 00:12:47.769 solved their problems like that. That's what 00:12:47.769 --> 00:12:49.769 they did. They bought Kusunov and they bought 00:12:49.769 --> 00:12:52.370 the Frankfurt Mammut guy. And also they bought 00:12:52.370 --> 00:12:56.350 the Portuguese or Spanish midfielder too to replace 00:12:56.350 --> 00:12:58.850 Rodri. So they just put money in it. That is 00:12:58.850 --> 00:13:01.730 true. Whereas Tottenham, we know Tottenham don't 00:13:01.730 --> 00:13:04.769 work like that. Romero is an unbelievable player. 00:13:06.049 --> 00:13:08.250 Some fans realise this, some don't. Like his 00:13:08.250 --> 00:13:10.629 passing out the back. so in terms of playing 00:13:10.629 --> 00:13:13.610 Ange Ball you can't really replace that without 00:13:13.610 --> 00:13:16.009 Romero Van de Ven also with his pace you can't 00:13:16.009 --> 00:13:19.009 replace that so is this the reason is this the 00:13:19.009 --> 00:13:23.549 main mitigating factor why the club stuck with 00:13:23.549 --> 00:13:26.690 Ange Ball because this was the amount of pressure 00:13:26.690 --> 00:13:31.590 he must have been so between November and February 00:13:31.590 --> 00:13:34.450 it was injuries and that's why they stuck with 00:13:34.450 --> 00:13:37.429 him because we were playing Not only our backup 00:13:37.429 --> 00:13:39.950 team, but also like Mikey Moore, 17 -year -old, 00:13:39.970 --> 00:13:43.230 young players were filling the bench. Not great 00:13:43.230 --> 00:13:46.649 players as well, by the way. And also unbalanced. 00:13:46.889 --> 00:13:49.450 We brought Archie Gray from Brentford. Not from 00:13:49.450 --> 00:13:51.350 Brentwood, from Leeds. We got to play him centre 00:13:51.350 --> 00:13:53.690 -back. He's a Championship midfielder, 18 -year 00:13:53.690 --> 00:13:55.429 -old. We played him centre -back. That's unheard 00:13:55.429 --> 00:13:57.769 of. Our centre -backs were a left -back, Ben 00:13:57.769 --> 00:14:00.789 Davies and Archie Gray, for three months. I'm 00:14:00.789 --> 00:14:03.009 sorry, but you can say that's an excuse, but 00:14:03.009 --> 00:14:06.049 that is a valid reason why we were doing bad. 00:14:06.190 --> 00:14:08.950 But then, okay. So then, up until February, that's 00:14:08.950 --> 00:14:11.470 the reason. Then they came back. And then what 00:14:11.470 --> 00:14:13.909 happened is we realised that we were too far 00:14:13.909 --> 00:14:16.879 from... the Euro positions in the league anyway. 00:14:17.059 --> 00:14:19.559 We weren't going to get there. And players were 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:21.179 coming back and they were getting injured straight 00:14:21.179 --> 00:14:24.039 away again, like crazy. Even Kulosevsky and Maddison 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:27.039 came back out for the final. I mean, how mad 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:28.840 is that? Berg, Van, Maddison and Kulosevsky. 00:14:28.860 --> 00:14:30.419 Because I think there was too much load on them. 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:33.919 I don't know what it was. Or luck. Bad luck. 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.860 Bad luck. So we've been awful. even recently, 00:14:37.980 --> 00:14:39.879 but I think that's because he's been playing 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:41.740 the B team in the league. Because he started 00:14:41.740 --> 00:14:44.240 focusing on the Europe. Because the sole focus 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:48.379 was Europa. And you did it. And this is Europa 00:14:48.379 --> 00:14:51.179 League, so it's a sort of second tier. you could 00:14:51.179 --> 00:14:54.539 say second European Cup because it's not the 00:14:54.539 --> 00:14:57.059 Champions League but still like when West Ham 00:14:57.059 --> 00:14:58.980 won the conference they were so happy the fans 00:14:58.980 --> 00:15:02.320 were over the moon so now you did something similar 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:04.940 this is the old UEFA Cup it's actually a massive 00:15:04.940 --> 00:15:08.000 but it's also a massive competition like I think 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.120 when it's called Europa League it doesn't sound 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:13.240 as like good but the old UEFA Cup was really 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:16.240 really was really celebrated respect man and 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.940 you get that Champions League spot as well oh 00:15:18.940 --> 00:15:20.929 my god it's like such a The important bonus. 00:15:20.970 --> 00:15:22.649 But I didn't care about that. Honestly, the only 00:15:22.649 --> 00:15:24.929 thing I cared about was winning the trophy. Of 00:15:24.929 --> 00:15:26.289 course. Because for Tottenham, we've been in 00:15:26.289 --> 00:15:28.409 the Champions League. We've been in that a lot. 00:15:28.570 --> 00:15:32.289 Okay. But it's nice as a bonus, isn't it? Yeah, 00:15:32.289 --> 00:15:35.470 sure. Sure. Next season, Champions League. And, 00:15:35.470 --> 00:15:37.610 let's be honest, you can attract better players 00:15:37.610 --> 00:15:39.129 now. Maybe, but I think that's all hypothetical. 00:15:39.529 --> 00:15:41.710 I don't think that's up to the business people 00:15:41.710 --> 00:15:43.570 of Tottenham whether they change their transfer 00:15:43.570 --> 00:15:46.110 targets and things like that. I don't see that. 00:15:46.149 --> 00:15:47.889 I don't see the 100 million we got for Kane. 00:15:47.950 --> 00:15:50.409 I don't care about that. I just care about... 00:15:50.409 --> 00:15:52.690 It's not your money. You don't get the money. 00:15:52.929 --> 00:15:55.029 And I also think there's things like loans that 00:15:55.029 --> 00:15:57.169 you can work your way around and take out a file. 00:15:57.389 --> 00:15:59.309 And Tottenham are very good with the PSR at the 00:15:59.309 --> 00:16:02.750 moment anyway. So, what helps is cash. Helps 00:16:02.750 --> 00:16:06.179 with cash. But it was a trophy. So basically, 00:16:06.259 --> 00:16:07.899 I have to ask you this, but I think I know the 00:16:07.899 --> 00:16:11.259 answer already. So if someone had offered you, 00:16:11.299 --> 00:16:13.220 before the start of the season, if someone had 00:16:13.220 --> 00:16:16.779 offered you, hey, David, you will almost get 00:16:16.779 --> 00:16:20.539 relegated this season, but you will win a trophy. 00:16:20.820 --> 00:16:22.659 Would you have taken it? Yeah, of course. You 00:16:22.659 --> 00:16:25.440 would have. Because our previous 16 years have 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.580 been either finishing anywhere from second to 00:16:29.580 --> 00:16:32.039 fifth and no trophy. Hang on, there's part two 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:35.409 to this. Yeah. What if you had been relegated? 00:16:36.649 --> 00:16:38.789 If we'd been relegated? If you'd been relegated, 00:16:38.789 --> 00:16:42.070 because you are one spot away. With a trophy. 00:16:43.049 --> 00:16:45.110 That's a more interesting question. And actually, 00:16:45.149 --> 00:16:46.730 it would have been more interesting if one of 00:16:46.730 --> 00:16:49.850 those clubs weren't there this year, and Man 00:16:49.850 --> 00:16:52.549 U, West Ham and Tottenham were fighting for relegation. 00:16:53.070 --> 00:16:55.049 Because then it would be like, do you play Europa? 00:16:55.950 --> 00:16:58.009 You'd put your first team in the pen. What do 00:16:58.009 --> 00:17:00.990 you prioritise? So for me personally, I would 00:17:00.990 --> 00:17:04.769 have... I'd have been... I don't know, actually. 00:17:04.910 --> 00:17:06.849 I'd probably still take the trophy. No, come 00:17:06.849 --> 00:17:08.509 on. But the club would have definitely taken 00:17:08.509 --> 00:17:11.569 the... It's so humiliating, though. Because you 00:17:11.569 --> 00:17:13.390 know what? Next year we'd be in the Champions 00:17:13.390 --> 00:17:16.309 League and we'd have been guaranteed to win the 00:17:16.309 --> 00:17:17.750 championship. Yeah, but you wouldn't be guaranteed 00:17:17.750 --> 00:17:19.849 to win the championship next season. You would. 00:17:20.069 --> 00:17:21.849 You would. It's not Tottenham. It's Tottenham, 00:17:21.869 --> 00:17:23.670 but it's hard. It's a hard competition with 20 00:17:23.670 --> 00:17:25.990 teams. But if you kept the players, you would... 00:17:25.990 --> 00:17:27.690 I think Tottenham's squad is... Would you keep 00:17:27.690 --> 00:17:29.509 the players after that? I still think Tottenham's 00:17:29.509 --> 00:17:30.809 squad... Yeah, because you'd been in the Champions 00:17:30.809 --> 00:17:33.849 League. So you probably would have done. I actually 00:17:33.849 --> 00:17:36.349 think Tottenham squad is probably the fifth best 00:17:36.349 --> 00:17:37.950 squad in the league, fifth or sixth probably. 00:17:38.029 --> 00:17:41.329 I still think of you as the top six team. But 00:17:41.329 --> 00:17:44.890 look at the back four of Poro, Romero, Van de 00:17:44.890 --> 00:17:47.349 Ven. You don't get that much better in the Prem 00:17:47.349 --> 00:17:49.730 than that. Then you've got Maddison, Coliseu. 00:17:49.730 --> 00:17:51.650 There's quality throughout the team. It's not 00:17:51.650 --> 00:17:55.089 a 17th -based team. Fair enough. But in this 00:17:55.089 --> 00:17:56.589 game, you have to say in the final, you were 00:17:56.589 --> 00:17:59.319 not the better team. I was looking at the stats. 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:02.220 You only had one shot in total. But the game 00:18:02.220 --> 00:18:04.559 was played in our terms. But you only had one 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:07.599 shot. Can you imagine? 12 shots. And had a game 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:09.779 plan. But I watched the stats. I didn't see the 00:18:09.779 --> 00:18:11.039 second half. You've got to see the second half. 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:14.400 I have to say this, viewers. Tottenham had only 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:19.019 one shot on goal. No shots. No shots off goal. 00:18:19.180 --> 00:18:22.180 No shots off the target. And Manchester United, 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:25.599 six shots on goal and six shots on the target. 00:18:25.740 --> 00:18:28.069 But if you watch the game... Hang on. But the 00:18:28.069 --> 00:18:32.269 XG was similar. It was like 1 .0. Yeah, exactly. 00:18:32.569 --> 00:18:35.569 So I think it was a game, whoever got the first 00:18:35.569 --> 00:18:38.470 goal was going to be massive favourites to win. 00:18:38.650 --> 00:18:41.490 It's like an old cliche, you score first. Because 00:18:41.490 --> 00:18:43.529 neither team were good at breaking a team down. 00:18:43.789 --> 00:18:46.089 For us, it's because we don't have Maddison and 00:18:46.089 --> 00:18:47.990 Kulisowski. For them, it's just because they're 00:18:47.990 --> 00:18:51.170 a shit team. So when Johnson scored that goal... 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:53.559 And said, right, we're sitting back. We back 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:56.200 ourselves to win 1 -0. Right. And it was a scrappy, 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:59.960 scrappy goal as well. Yeah. But actually, the 00:18:59.960 --> 00:19:01.700 build -up did it. It was Bruno Fernandes who 00:19:01.700 --> 00:19:04.180 played in the sixth. Sarra intercepted the ball. 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:06.519 And there was a few patterns there that led to 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:08.759 the goal, although the ending was scrappy like 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:11.900 a handball. But it was a worked move. But then 00:19:11.900 --> 00:19:13.900 we just said, OK, cross it into the box. We bought 00:19:13.900 --> 00:19:17.259 Danzo on. We went three at the back. So I think 00:19:17.259 --> 00:19:18.720 we were the better team because we played it 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.259 on our terms. I don't think so. And Ondra doesn't 00:19:22.259 --> 00:19:26.079 think so either. My friend, he said we were not 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:27.579 the better team. Definitely the better team. 00:19:27.579 --> 00:19:30.099 Okay, you are right. No, you're right that when 00:19:30.099 --> 00:19:32.240 you say it was played on your terms, I think 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:35.339 that's fair because you were winning. And I think 00:19:35.339 --> 00:19:39.380 at that point... The whole season rested on that, 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:42.400 on that, like, let's park the bus. It makes sense 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:44.859 because it's really about, it was all about the 00:19:44.859 --> 00:19:47.259 result. Yeah, but what did Hammerham do? Hammerham 00:19:47.259 --> 00:19:50.099 was awful in that game. He kept, there's a clip 00:19:50.099 --> 00:19:52.900 in the 88th minute of him still being three at 00:19:52.900 --> 00:19:56.019 the back and then three and one up front. And 00:19:56.019 --> 00:19:58.640 you know who the one was? Harry Maguire. All 00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:00.400 right, let's leave it there because I think you 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:02.140 have some guests coming. Your dog is barking. 00:20:02.380 --> 00:20:04.140 It's been fantastic to have you on the show. 00:20:04.380 --> 00:20:07.619 Enjoy. Wonderful win. And you said you're going 00:20:07.619 --> 00:20:09.259 to put on a Tottenham shirt if you want. No, 00:20:09.259 --> 00:20:16.759 I'm not putting any Tottenham shirt. Hi, guys. 00:20:16.859 --> 00:20:19.940 Welcome back to the Language Corner. And as always, 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:23.579 in this part of the show, I'm going to be teaching 00:20:23.579 --> 00:20:25.759 you something because I'm an English teacher. 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:29.740 That's right. That is my job. And I might as 00:20:29.740 --> 00:20:33.039 well clarify some vocabulary from this episode. 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:37.259 This is the most... common thing to do for me 00:20:37.259 --> 00:20:40.440 in these episodes, right? I used to do some grammar 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:43.480 and pronunciation occasionally, but let's be 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:47.539 honest, this is the one that a lot of people 00:20:47.539 --> 00:20:51.720 need, right? A lot of people need to expand their 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:57.319 vocabulary, so let's go. This one comes from 00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:03.140 the context of Jenks and I talking about Tottenham's 00:21:03.140 --> 00:21:07.180 injuries. I think David used this as an excuse 00:21:07.180 --> 00:21:11.700 of why Tottenham's season hasn't been really 00:21:11.700 --> 00:21:17.299 good. He blamed the failure of the season on 00:21:17.299 --> 00:21:24.440 the injuries. Specifically, I was suggesting 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:29.299 that potentially it wasn't just... Tottenham, 00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:31.660 right? That struggled with injuries. There were 00:21:31.660 --> 00:21:33.880 other teams like Man City. They didn't have Rodri 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:39.819 and so on. But to that, to that, Jenks said the 00:21:39.819 --> 00:21:44.880 following. He said, Man City had injuries, but 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:48.339 nowhere near the extent of Tottenham. And this 00:21:48.339 --> 00:21:50.839 is the phrase I would like to look at. Nowhere 00:21:50.839 --> 00:21:55.839 near something. If something in English is nowhere 00:21:55.839 --> 00:22:00.349 near. Often it's followed by as as well if it's 00:22:00.349 --> 00:22:03.329 then followed by an adjective. Nowhere near as 00:22:03.329 --> 00:22:07.250 good as something. Nowhere near the extent of 00:22:07.250 --> 00:22:10.930 Tottenham. It means it's far from that. It's 00:22:10.930 --> 00:22:15.690 not at all near. It's really, really far. So 00:22:15.690 --> 00:22:18.609 yes, Man City had injuries, but you cannot compare 00:22:18.609 --> 00:22:21.869 it. to how many injuries Tottenham had. They 00:22:21.869 --> 00:22:26.430 had way more injuries than Man City, right? Nowhere 00:22:26.430 --> 00:22:29.609 near the extent of Tottenham. You could also 00:22:29.609 --> 00:22:35.789 say this part of the show, this language corner, 00:22:35.890 --> 00:22:40.329 is definitely interesting, but it's nowhere near 00:22:40.329 --> 00:22:45.009 as interesting as the interview part of the show, 00:22:45.170 --> 00:22:47.750 which means the interview part of the show, the 00:22:47.750 --> 00:22:52.740 main bit, of every episode is probably more interesting, 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.099 or is much more interesting in this case, if 00:22:56.099 --> 00:22:59.279 I say nowhere near, much more interesting than 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:01.240 the language corner, which could be a bit boring 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:04.059 because it's a bit nerdy, right? It's not for 00:23:04.059 --> 00:23:06.319 everyone. I understand everybody has a different 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:10.460 taste, but let's be honest, I think... the main 00:23:10.460 --> 00:23:13.400 reason you guys listen to this episode or watch 00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:17.480 it on the youtube channel is that uh well it's 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:20.160 a discussion about football you just wanna maybe 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:24.519 hear two two people talking about football okay 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:29.119 so hopefully this is clear and you enjoy learning 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:32.200 about this phrase which i believe is pretty common 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:36.609 in english now One thing I need to say is that 00:23:36.609 --> 00:23:39.170 it's coming to an end of this season, right? 00:23:39.529 --> 00:23:43.809 We literally, we are finishing this. There's 00:23:43.809 --> 00:23:45.769 like the Champions League final and then there 00:23:45.769 --> 00:23:49.470 will be the Euros under -21s perhaps, but that's 00:23:49.470 --> 00:23:52.130 it for this season. Most of the leagues have 00:23:52.130 --> 00:23:55.609 already finished. And what does it mean for this 00:23:55.609 --> 00:23:58.430 podcast? Well, what it means for this podcast 00:23:58.430 --> 00:24:02.130 is that I will still keep going, but probably 00:24:02.130 --> 00:24:05.089 not as often as... as in the past. And to be 00:24:05.089 --> 00:24:08.809 honest, you probably noticed that I don't publish 00:24:08.809 --> 00:24:12.150 episode every week as I used to. There were times 00:24:12.150 --> 00:24:15.210 I even published two episodes every week. Listen, 00:24:15.390 --> 00:24:18.690 you have to understand I'm a busy person and 00:24:18.690 --> 00:24:21.789 I've got other podcasts too. And there's been 00:24:21.789 --> 00:24:25.210 a lot going on in my life lately. And yeah, I 00:24:25.210 --> 00:24:27.190 would like to keep this up. But to be honest. 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:30.779 I'm a bit disappointed about the level of interaction 00:24:30.779 --> 00:24:35.339 with the listeners of this podcast. It's not 00:24:35.339 --> 00:24:38.940 enough. Even on the YouTube channel, I was expecting 00:24:38.940 --> 00:24:42.279 you guys would talk to me a bit more. You would 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:44.799 leave comments, tell me what you think about 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:47.500 the episodes. Most of you just listen and that's 00:24:47.500 --> 00:24:50.740 it. And that's why I don't really have much feedback. 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:53.319 I don't know if what I'm doing makes sense, if 00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:56.839 it's interesting enough for you. I'm kind of 00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:59.680 losing motivation. And I'll be brutally honest 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:02.000 with you. I'm thinking of starting something 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:06.619 different at this point. Saying that, I don't 00:25:06.619 --> 00:25:10.200 think I'm ready yet to let this podcast go. I 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:13.640 think I'll give it a bit longer before I make 00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.640 the decision. However, it could mean that these 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:18.900 podcasts will be less frequent, perhaps once 00:25:18.900 --> 00:25:22.450 a month or something like that. I quite like 00:25:22.450 --> 00:25:26.069 talking to my friends like David about football. 00:25:26.250 --> 00:25:28.329 I just think it's a wonderful opportunity to 00:25:28.329 --> 00:25:31.109 catch up with football fans of different football 00:25:31.109 --> 00:25:35.230 teams. And that's also one of the reasons I do 00:25:35.230 --> 00:25:37.849 this, right? I don't just do it to help you guys. 00:25:37.990 --> 00:25:41.549 I do it for myself too, just to have fun. But 00:25:41.549 --> 00:25:46.369 when you do a podcast, you need some sort of 00:25:46.369 --> 00:25:49.650 audience that will support you as well. And I 00:25:49.650 --> 00:25:52.880 think there's not... Enough of that here. Because 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:55.799 I don't see any comments. I barely see any likes. 00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:02.759 So, yeah. Please don't understand it as me having 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:05.920 a go at you. It's just I'm describing the reality 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:09.119 of it. I know there are a lot of people doing 00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:11.839 similar podcasts. And there's a lot of competition 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.160 as well. So, obviously, perhaps I'm not good 00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:18.859 at promoting myself. Or, I don't know, maybe... 00:26:19.769 --> 00:26:24.509 Maybe I need more prominent guests, like influencers 00:26:24.509 --> 00:26:28.029 on the podcast. I've had a few well -known guests, 00:26:28.210 --> 00:26:33.910 but it wasn't enough. So basically, the future 00:26:33.910 --> 00:26:37.289 of this podcast is in doubt at the moment. We 00:26:37.289 --> 00:26:39.970 will see what happens. All in all, thank you 00:26:39.970 --> 00:26:42.210 very much for listening to this episode. And 00:26:42.210 --> 00:26:46.289 if you want to support this podcast, and if you 00:26:46.289 --> 00:26:50.089 want to... help me, if you want to revert this 00:26:50.089 --> 00:26:57.309 sort of decision that I am considering of letting 00:26:57.309 --> 00:27:02.289 this podcast go, then it's really you that can 00:27:02.289 --> 00:27:04.609 change it. It's no one else, right? It's me, 00:27:04.670 --> 00:27:07.589 I guess, too. But you guys have a huge power. 00:27:08.220 --> 00:27:11.339 If you support this podcast, if you give it likes, 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:16.299 comment, and if you are interactive, then you 00:27:16.299 --> 00:27:18.599 have a huge power. You can change things around 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:23.940 like Tottenham did in their season. So let's 00:27:23.940 --> 00:27:26.079 see what happens. Thank you very much for listening. 00:27:26.339 --> 00:27:29.599 And I'll speak to you soon. Take care, everyone.