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How the hell did West Ham United get a penalty in their game against Manchester United?

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Who should be the new Man U manager now that Eric Ten Haag has been sacked?

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Would Jose Mourinho, Gary Neville or Gareth Southgate be a good fit?

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And what does pulling the trigger mean in the context of football manager jobs?

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Hello, Zdenek Lukas here and this is the Footglitch Podcast, your ultimate solution for learning English through football.

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And unless I am mistaken, today is the first time ever on the Footglitch Podcast that we have two guests at the same time.

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It's Karl, a returning guest, who has been here twice already. Welcome back.

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Thanks for having me, Zdenek. Appreciate it.

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You're always welcome, especially since you are an Arsenal fan.

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No, in fact, on this podcast, it's not true. On this podcast, you know, all fans are welcome.

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But also today we're joined by your friend Brian. Welcome, Brian.

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Thanks for having me. It's a nice little thing to do.

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Lovely. But you are not an Arsenal fan exactly, are you?

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I am not. No, no, I was born in the 90s.

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So because of that, naturally, I'm a Man United fan for for my sins, I would say.

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This is amazing timing. What a timing this is, because your manager, Eric Ten Haag, as I learned to pronounce it, not Ten Haag, Ten Haag.

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Very good. The Dutch Dutch pronunciation. Yeah.

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Has just been sacked literally a few hours ago.

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So I'm sure we're going to talk about that one hundred percent.

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Definitely, Brian, you are the main man today because it's the main agenda for today is the West Ham, West Ham, Manchester United game, Manchester United.

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What's going to happen with it? Who is going to be the next manager?

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But also we want to hear from Carl as well what his views are on that.

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Absolutely. Yeah, I think it's good to get the non Man United fan on it, too, because you can get very tunnel vision about your own club.

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So, yeah, I think it's good. It's good.

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Tell me about it. Yesterday, I was arguing with my Liverpool friend about some sort of disallowed goal.

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Nobody knows what I'm referring to, Carl, right?

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No, don't have a clue. Have not. Never happened.

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Anyway, for some reason, I just crumbled under pressure and I admitted it was a foul in the end.

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I feel I feel really embarrassed about that, Carl. I'm sorry.

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Definitely wasn't a foul. Just never a foul.

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Yeah. Seems seems like Irish sarcasm to me.

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Oh, no, no, I actually am serious. I don't think that was a foul at all.

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I was. It's just typical Liverpool, but listen, that's another topic.

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That could be another another focus for another day, I think.

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Liverpool, you mean?

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Yeah, well, I didn't want to say it, but now that you've said it, it's out there.

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So, yeah. Anyway, anyway, let's talk about that West Ham

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Manchester United game, which I happen to see as well because I kind of support West Ham, actually, as my number two team.

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So interesting game with a really bad ending for you.

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So, yeah, I mean, yeah.

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Just, I mean, a bad for football, I think, because that VAR decision was atrocious.

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It was so bad. Like, I just I can't.

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There's no words to say. Like, I mean, this.

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We talk with VAR every single week and it's all like, what's a what's a clanger?

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What's a serious error?

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It was never it was never it never should have been brought back.

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It was never the referee didn't give it for a reason.

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And I mean, yes, the only upside is, I suppose you could say is it's probably made the decision now to get rid of the manager.

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But in terms of the game, it was disgraceful. Absolutely disgraceful.

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You needed that. You needed that for the manager to be sacked.

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Otherwise, he would hang on for ages.

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Well, I'll have you know that we need VAR.

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Otherwise, there would be no podcasts and YouTube channels.

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There would be nothing to talk about.

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Yes, exactly. No controversy.

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You know, social media needed to all that, you know.

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So that's why it was created, probably.

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But of course, you are referring to what happened at the end of the game.

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But Carl, tell me when you saw when you saw the result, like, did you did you watch the game by any chance?

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I assume you didn't.

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I didn't. I didn't watch the full game, no.

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I caught parts of this mainly walking by the room where Brian was watching it and hearing the reaction coming from the room.

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I thought it best just to leave him be with his emotions.

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So this is better than like watching the score live on livescore.com or live sports, right?

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Because this is with emotion as well.

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It's perfect. You get that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Definitely my gut reaction when I saw back when Brian showed me the highlights afterwards, while we watched them back.

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And my initial reaction was that it seemed like a very soft, like very, very soft penalty to give one of those ones where if it was given for you,

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you'd absolutely be delighted and you take it, but you kind of go, oh, my God, I can't believe we got away with that one.

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You know? Yeah. No.

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OK, we start from there. Why not?

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So basically, this was the deciding moment, deciding moment of the game.

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It was one one. Was it around the 80, 85th minute or something along those lines?

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87th, I think. Yeah.

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So it was the I can't remember his name now, but the West Ham United substitute was his name.

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Danny Ings.

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Danny Ings.

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Danny Ings was allegedly fouled in the box.

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And as someone who really likes West Ham and supports West Ham, there's no doubt that this was not a penalty.

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I think all West Ham fans, they just they just couldn't believe, like what sort of gift they were given by the referees.

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And the referee actually didn't blow the whistle, right, Brian?

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It was Vard. Was it? I think it was Mark Oliver as well.

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Yeah, typical, typical Michael Oliver.

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And I don't need to tell Arsenal fans how questionable Mr. Oliver can be.

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But I think as well, the referee was called maybe three.

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I might be wrong now, but I think it was something like three minutes after you're kind of saying, like,

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how can it take that long? And if you're debating it that much, then clearly by the letter of the law, it's not a clear and obvious error.

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So that's the price, right? Obvious error.

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Yeah, so clear, sorry, clear and obvious error.

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Same thing. Clear and obvious error. Right.

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So what happened to that? What happened with that, Cal?

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Why did that go? It seems like it kind of comes and goes whenever it pleases.

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And, you know, the AR kind of rears its head whenever maybe the attention hasn't been on it for a while.

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Yeah. So Jarrod Bowen took the penalty and he scored and Wes Ham won it.

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But you actually did start the game really well in the first half.

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You were on the front foot and you dominated the possession.

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You had way more chances. I think you missed several sitters.

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You hit the crossbar twice. Yeah, but it just sums up 99 at the moment.

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You know, like, I mean, I saw a stat today, their top actually with Spurs for the most missed clear chances.

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I don't know how they qualify that stat, but 22 times they've missed clear chances, whatever they are.

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But I mean, like, they should have been about five or six up at halftime.

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Wes Ham were abysmal. They were so bad. Yeah.

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And on top of that, you know, you actually played well.

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They actually did play well in the first half.

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But like he said, it's a crossbar twice. Dalough missed an open goal.

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And yeah, just I don't know, it's kind of one of those things like when something goes wrong, it's just everything goes wrong.

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But then to put it into context, then at halftime, one manager saw something going wrong, made changes.

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It worked. The other manager did nothing.

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You know, he kind of thought it went well, so why won't it continue to go up?

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And ultimately then Wes Ham were better team in second half overall.

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And with the home support and everything, it's inevitable you're going to.

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With the bar support as well.

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Well, you know, I'm trying not to go too hard on that.

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But yes, absolutely. Absolutely.

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This is actually clear and obvious. Yeah.

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This one is clear and obvious to me.

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Now, with the benefit of hindsight, with all the replace we have now, it's just it's a nonsensical penalty.

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Like it just makes. OK, even if it is, why was it why was it given when the ref didn't give it?

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It makes no sense. Yeah. Yeah.

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No sense. Yeah. They just I think they've made it too difficult on themselves now because it's meant to be the referee's call, which is fine.

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But then if it's a 50-50 decision, then it should just go to the referee's call.

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And they do that sometimes, but not all the time.

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Very rarely, I would say. It's like five, four percent of time.

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I think there must be some stats and I have seen it like twice and I have seen so many games with VAR decisions like that.

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It seemed like that ref, it was just the pressure got to him.

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I could see it on his face. He just wasn't sure with himself anymore.

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Like you just have to stick with what you believe in.

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And it's just I don't know.

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Carl, tell me with all those missed opportunities here, do you think that it's now like in Manchester United players heads really?

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Like it's about it's about it's a confidence issue.

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Certain I think confidence, a lot of the players definitely don't lack for confidence.

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I mean, you look at some of the way that they kind of nonchalantly approach the game.

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Maybe maybe it is a little bit of lack of confidence in some of them.

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Like you look at the likes of Marcus Rashford, who's just kind of a shell of his former self.

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Garnaccio obviously looks quite like a bright spark.

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But for someone like Rasmus Highland, who just seems like he's almost like on an island up top sometimes,

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the only person there to support him ever is Bruno Fernandes.

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It's kind of yeah, it's it's it's something you can definitely point to.

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But when there's so little confidence like in the manager and there's so little confidence with results and things like that,

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it's it's bound to kind of breed the lack of confidence throughout the squad as well.

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Yeah, well, let's take a look at the table, the league table.

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Yeah, so we have to.

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I'll make it quick, I promise.

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I don't want to torture you too much.

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And also and and your friend, Carl, as well, because look at this now.

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So Manchester City are back at the top of the league because, of course,

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the Liverpool Arsenal game ended in a 2-2 draw.

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So that's exactly what City needed.

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Aston Villa on 18 points, the same same number of points as Arsenal.

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Then we have Chelsea right behind, even Brighton, Nottingham Forest.

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There's a bit of a gap Tottenham.

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But where is Manchester United in the 14th place?

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Wow, crazy. It's unheard of. It's unbelievable.

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West Ham on the same amount of points, but a better a better goal difference, I guess.

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Yeah. Honestly, if someone told you that after nine games,

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you would be in the 14th place on 11 points, would you have believed them?

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No, and truthfully, I was actually quite optimistic going into the season.

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I thought I thought the recruitment was good during the summer, both in and out.

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And I suppose the fact that we actually had a fully fit squad as well.

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And, you know, we'll get on to it, I'm sure.

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But like a lot of people would have criticised the manager last season with the talk with the injuries.

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But the fact of it was that the amount of injuries they had to deal with last season,

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you could forgive a certain amount of it.

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But he went into this season with everyone, but maybe Luke Shaw and Lenny Yarrow.

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Aside from that, he had a full squad.

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So, you know, I've been dumbfounded, to be honest.

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And like even in the in the Community Shield, they played quite well.

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Like they lost the city, but they played well.

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So I kind of thought building blocks, you know, will get better.

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But it's just been oh, I can't I can't push any explanation on it.

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It's just I personally, I think he lost the dressing room.

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A while ago, and it's just finally kind of coming to fruition now.

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Maybe that.

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Maybe that FA Cup win, which was significant, in my opinion,

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it was like paper over cracks or something like that.

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For sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah.

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So, yeah. So it's unfortunate.

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And you know what's interesting that actually, West Ham United,

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their fans were really excited about the game.

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Their fans were really excited about the season.

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They thought in the preseason, they got really good new players

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and they rated their transfer window as 10 out of 10, a lot of them.

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You know, so from that point of view, you kind of in the same boat,

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you know, the same number of points, really disappointing start to the season.

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Yeah, I guess I guess the new West Ham manager, Lopetegu,

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he at least hasn't been there for a long time, so he still has, you know,

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he still has time to prove himself, I suppose.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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But I suppose, again, Ten Hag couldn't say the same because it's his third season

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and how many of the start in 11 hour either his transfers or players he's brought through,

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I'd say probably eight of them, nine of them, maybe.

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So, you know, like it's eventually you just have to kind of take the criticism

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because unfortunately, like, you know, like it's just been, you know,

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you can say what you want to put the players, but like the manager just hasn't,

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unfortunately, done enough.

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And that's why today has happened the way it's happened.

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Well, Kalle, let me get you involved.

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Let's have a bit of banter.

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So as an Arsenal fan, do you think the fun is over now when Ten Hag got sacked?

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Do you think that's it?

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We won't have any more sort of teasing of United because this has been hilarious.

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Let's be honest.

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They are this massive club with such huge fan base.

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Guys, I live in Vietnam for a long, long time of the year now.

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I'm actually heading back this week and in Vietnam, like people support Manchester United

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more than they support Arsenal, that's for sure.

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So is this fun over now, Kalle?

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What do you think?

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It's kind of it's an interesting one, because on the one hand, I do like I found myself

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kind of rooting for Eric Ten Hag a little bit just because he came across very well

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in the beginning and he seemed like a kind of guy that you could kind of get behind,

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which is very odd for a Manchester United manager.

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I mean, you look back at the likes of Van Hal and Mourinho and you think, good Lord,

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there's no way I could find any redeeming qualities in these guys.

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But yeah, I guess I suppose if you want to call it fun, definitely the fun.

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This part of the fun, let's say, is over.

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It's going to be interesting to see what goes on with Nisleroy obviously taking over and

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how long that will last and what he will do.

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No doubt we'll add a bit of pep in the step of some of the players and get a bit of a

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boost for them.

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But yeah, it was kind of nice after so many, many years of being the boss of the joke

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to finally have the tables turned a little bit and for them to see what it was like for

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us.

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OK, well, let me add some fuel to the fire.

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Brian, everybody started to feel sorry for United now, right?

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Isn't that worse than making fun of United?

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Isn't that worse than pulling your leg as Ben Bentele has always been part of football,

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right?

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We always make fun of each other, of your mates.

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But when you start feeling sorry for someone, that's really bad, right, Brian?

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What do you think?

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Oh yeah.

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It's very, it's very comparable to, you know, Arsenal's streak, I would say, when the Emirates

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was being built and they had no money for transfers.

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So granted, they were still getting top four, so it wasn't nearly as bad.

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And then, you know, you think of the Liverpool teams kind of 2010 to kind of when they had

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lads like, you know, Bruno Sheru and Jay Spearing in their midfield and all.

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And like you said, it's not even like banter anymore.

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It's just hatey.

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And yeah, it is.

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And I think at this stage, it's kind of like making fun of United.

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It doesn't work anymore.

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It can't get worse.

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Like, it sounds dramatic, but it can't get worse.

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That's equivalent to kicking someone who is already lying on the floor, you know, like

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that's what it feels like to me, you know.

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So OK, well, let's let's talk about potential replacements of Tereg, Tereg, Eric Tenhaag.

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I can't say his name anymore.

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Yeah, you won't need to.

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You won't need to.

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He's gone now.

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So that's true.

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So you might get an interim manager or a caretaker.

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I don't know.

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But yeah, I'm let's play this game now.

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I've written down a few interesting names and I want to know your reaction and possibly

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even calls to these names.

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Some of them, of course, are a bit of joke again, but some of them may be more serious.

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So OK, Ole Gunnar Sorskiar.

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Would you take him back?

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No, is the short answer.

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Like what he did for the time, like he, you know, he was, you know, he provided moments

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for sure.

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I think he held himself very well.

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He held himself a lot better than Tenhaag did, but he just doesn't have the kind of

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the tactical quality that you need to be competing at the top, top level.

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So I think we were very much a counter-attacking team under him and it was great at times,

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but you're never going to win the league like that.

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So there's no point in just putting in another person who's temporary.

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And I do love Ole.

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I'll always love Ole.

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What a guy.

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Well, I actually think if you look at all the managers that succeeded, the one and only

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Sir Alex Ferguson, I think Ole is number two, in my opinion, in Manchester United's fans'

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eyes.

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Would you agree with that, Carl?

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My God, I think it's I think in terms of emotions and the emotions that certainly were invoked

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while he was there, definitely Ole would have provided that.

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But I mean, it's hard to it's hard to knock like Mourinho on how he how well he did now.

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He might have been a nuisance and very annoying from a United fans perspective, maybe.

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But I mean, you can't argue with with results and the way that he finished with the second

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place and he had I think was he quoted saying that Chris Smalling and Phil Jones is the

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starting centre backs and he finished second place in the league.

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So and a Europa League title as well, you know.

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So sorry, that was that was Ole or Mourinho with the number.

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Mourinho was.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So Mourinho, would you take Mourinho back?

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You would have to buy him out from Fenerbahce.

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No, no, God, no, no.

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I like that.

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Look, like Jose's record speaks for itself.

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Like what he's done in the game is incredible.

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Bush, he's the special one.

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He was he was, but I think football has moved on from how he his philosophy.

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And we've seen it now.

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We've seen that United, we've seen that Spurs, we've seen that Roma.

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Like, you know, he he can get teams going, but he's great for a season.

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He gets a new contract and then things go to go to rubbish.

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That's just the same thing every time.

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So, yeah, I agree with you.

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What about Zinedine Zidane?

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Oh, no, no, I I I I've spoke about this a long time.

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I just think Zidane, what he did at Real Madrid will never be repeated.

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But Real Madrid is just a different club.

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And the fact that he's Zidane, it's just they go hand in hand.

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And I just think I don't think it would translate.

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I think the Premier League is is on a different level to La Liga.

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And yeah, I just I don't I don't think I think I think the two jobs

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Zidane can do are Real Madrid and the France job.

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And aside from that, I don't think I don't think you'll work anywhere else.

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And that's just me.

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But I don't I don't think so.

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Carl seems to be nodding, so.

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Yeah, yeah, no, I would agree.

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I think that he had a very special relationship with the likes of Ronaldo

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and and Benzema and those guys, and that kind of definitely helped him

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because, like, fair enough, you could say that tactically he did well,

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but I don't think anyone was under any illusions that he was a tactical mastermind.

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And and he was definitely blessed with the crop of players

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that he had at the time in Madrid.

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So, yeah, I would definitely agree.

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To be honest, you and I could be managers at that time.

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And Real Madrid would have won the title

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would have won the titles and the Champions League as well.

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So, yeah, yeah, definitely.

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Not sure if definitely, but most most most likely.

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Hopefully, 98, 98, 98.5, I would say.

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Yeah. All right.

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How about someone like David Moyes?

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Again, I think I actually really like David Moyes, I have to say.

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And I think that his whatever the seven months he had the first time

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doesn't reflect him as a manager, but I just think it's too big of a job.

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And again, I think in the.

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Will he do the thing to win the game to outdo the other team?

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No. Can he maybe stop the other team?

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Sure. But I think he's a very good manager.

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Sure. But like you want you want the tacticians, you want the front

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the front foot managers that are going to play attacking football.

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And that's just not him.

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I don't think personally.

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He won't excite fans, I think.

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No, no. He did so well at West Ham, but the fans still ousted him out.

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Yeah, yeah. So that's football.

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You know, everyone he stayed, he has stabilized the club.

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Bush, I don't think it'll bring us more.

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You wanted to go. Yeah.

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OK, then, well, then we have got, of course, Gary Neville,

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who's a legend, who's a Manchester United legend,

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hasn't got much coaching experience.

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Where was he at Valencia?

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Yeah, for four months.

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So once he was he did really poorly, but he is an excellent pundit.

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Would you give him a chance, Brian?

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I think in his own words, he'll never be a manager again.

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I think it's it's a different skill set, you know, because being a manager,

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it's not just picking a team, you know, it's there.

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There's there's so much involved.

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There's, you know, you have to deal with the media so regularly.

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And I just think personally, I think

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the Man United job is one of the three big ones.

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In world football, Barcelona, Madrid, the pressure and the scrutiny

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that you face, I think, is just unmatched.

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So you need someone that would kind of flourish in those conditions.

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And I love Gary Neville, but no, not as a manager.

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No, it would be it would be funny, wouldn't it?

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Yeah, it would definitely continue that streak of fun time for other fans,

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I think, yes, because Gary Neville's

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because Gary Neville's a source of memes just in from his punditry alone.

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So you can only imagine what would happen if he took over the job.

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Yeah, I like to listen to Gary Neville.

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He he's very opinionated sometimes, but I like it.

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You know, I like authentic people who stand by what they say.

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And he's good at what he's doing.

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In my humble opinion, I know some people don't like him, but I do.

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And well, then there is, of course, the ex England manager, Gareth Southgate.

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How about him? I think in my this is my theory, Brian.

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Yeah, I think after Eric Denhaar, Manchester United players,

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of all things they need an arm around their shoulder.

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And I really know I'm not I'm not Joe.

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And right now, no, this is not pity or I'm not.

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I in fact, I really think that that's what's happening.

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That's what's happening here because they don't have any confidence.

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And I think it would help someone like Ancelotti, Ancelotti type, you know,

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someone like that, because I think that our Fragnik was probably a disciplinarian,

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you know, with a with a whip with a whip in a training session.

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Not sure.

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It's an interesting comparison.

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Yeah, I was going to say, please don't compare

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Carlo Ancelotti, one of the greatest managers to ever grace the game.

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And Gareth Southgate.

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Look, he's a nice guy, too. Right.

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They are nice guys.

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Listen, listen, me and Colin are nice guys, too.

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But that's that's irrelevant in this conversation.

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Like, you know, it's you know what I mean, though?

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Like, yeah, I want someone who's going to shout at players like, yeah,

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you need someone who's going to instill that confidence back in them.

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And who is that going to be? Southgate, Southgate is free. Come on.

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Play style is just what watching England, England in the Euros.

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That's all I need to say.

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I mean, he's too cautious, like, and it's great having players

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feeling good about themselves, but that won't mean anything

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when they're getting beaten by Arsenal and Liverpool and Man City by four or five goals.

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He had results, though.

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Like, I still don't get it, because he got he got England into the final.

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Was it twice? Right. In the Euros?

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Then there was a semi final World Cup semi final.

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Remember when it happened last time?

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I don't think we do remember that because it was like when we were not alive.

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So I think he did extremely well, but I understand the fans.

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Yeah, yeah. And international football is different.

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Like, it's it's very much like,

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yeah, it's a different thing, like it's a shorter and more intense period.

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And I think it's different.

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But listen, he he's definitely got his qualities.

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But I don't think for the man United job now.

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Certainly in terms of like, I think the scrutiny that the

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he would get from the man United job is not the same level of scrutiny

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that he got when he was in the position.

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I almost feel like the media took it easy on Southgate

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an awful lot of the time when he was in the England job.

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And kind of similar enough in the sense that we talked earlier

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about how Zidane had such a good team.

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Like he's had one of the best crop of English players you'll.

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Oh, yeah. We've seen in years.

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And so any manager in there, you would have thought

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they have to be making these semi finals and finals.

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Well, we will see, you know, because time will show you.

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It may be true, but, you know, in the Belgium team,

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you know, the golden generation also did anything.

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So we will see, because I think it's about balance, in my opinion. Right.

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It's you have to balance the team well.

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You have to your players need to respect you.

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And there has to be mutual trust and all that.

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But OK, who then, Brian, who then?

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What's your idea of a new manager?

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It's a good question.

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It's actually come through on Sky Sports.

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They're they're looking at the Sporting Lisbon manager, Amarin.

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I'll be honest, I don't really know about.

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I know Liverpool were supposedly looking at him during the summer.

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But it's I I kind of decided myself

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it was after the Tottenham game that he was done.

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I just I just felt that game just epitomized everything we were at.

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And I think I would rather find this the right

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keep the job for the season

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and wait to find the right person, who that person is.

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I just the short answer is I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure because it's tricky.

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00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,800
You could look at someone maybe in the profile of like an Eddie Howe

453
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,760
and look at how when he's done at Newcastle and see if he could build up from there.

454
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,800
They could have gotten Tuchel, I think, if they had acted sooner,

455
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,960
they could have gotten him in.

456
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,160
But or you could go for someone like Xavi.

457
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,560
But again, does the Dan thing, would he work in another club?

458
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,360
I don't know. But yeah, it's it's it's tricky.

459
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,360
But the only the only thing I would say is that since INEOS took over,

460
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,320
they've improved the background so much that I have to think that they've lined up

461
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,600
someone who fits exactly what they want.

462
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,920
So if they go for Anne Arendt or whoever it is,

463
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,200
you'd have to think that they'll meet the criteria

464
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,440
of someone who's going to produce the football ultimately that we want to see.

465
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:02,840
Gael, is there anyone that you think might be the right fit for this huge club?

466
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,840
Manchester United?

467
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,600
Someone that's available now.

468
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,920
It's kind of hard to look around the world of football and see someone who's out of a job

469
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,040
currently that that would be able to slot in immediately.

470
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,720
I know some people through Nagelsmann's name out there, the

471
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,920
German national manager, former Bayern manager.

472
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,960
I personally thought they might have gone for someone like Dzerby.

473
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,920
I think that if they had pulled the trigger on Teng Hargo in the summer,

474
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,760
Dzerby, I think, would have been a great kind of manager to bring in

475
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,880
because he's he seemed to galvanize that group of Brighton players

476
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,880
that with a good mix of like you said, with the ragny kind of toughness,

477
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,480
but then also with the arm around the shoulder, kind of had that both elements to him.

478
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,280
I think he's someone that they could have gotten,

479
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,840
which obviously would have been a gamble because he's not as,

480
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,040
I suppose, well stated as other names like Tuchel.

481
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,240
But I agree, definitely Tuchel was a big one that they missed out on.

482
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,200
You know what I will say, Brian?

483
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,160
Whoever it will be, I hope for the sake of the league

484
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,400
and for the reputation of the league that actually Manchester United

485
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:22,960
get back to that top top six, you know, group, because I think we are all missing out

486
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,240
because good Manchester United team makes everyone else better.

487
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:28,160
That's the way I see it.

488
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,200
And this is not this. This is hilarious.

489
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,920
It's only hilarious for half a season or something, but then it's just it's not good for anyone.

490
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,240
So I sincerely hope you get someone good and then you fix this mess,

491
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:42,480
get rid of the dead wood and all that.

492
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:48,960
And also, of course, like we have Gary Neville who says, well, the real problem is the owners.

493
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,640
So, Brian, do you actually are you with Gary Neville on that?

494
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,800
I think we're moving in the right direction.

495
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,840
He's definitely right.

496
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Like, I mean, if you actually look into what the Glazers have done,

497
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:07,440
I mean, it's it's sickening, really, like, I mean, they took over a profitable business

498
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:14,160
and they just put all their debt into it and they just they suck the money dry out of the club,

499
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,600
which is terrible.

500
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,160
And then every couple of years, they throw some money at it.

501
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,920
So in a perfect world, yeah, they'd be gone.

502
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,920
I don't think they'll ever be fully gone.

503
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:29,600
I think they'll at least have they might end up with maybe a 25 per cent stake at some point.

504
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:35,120
But yeah, they're not over the footballing decisions anymore, which is good.

505
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:42,240
Jim Radcliffe is definitely he's a fan, at least, and he's a pretty shrewd businessman.

506
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:47,120
But yeah, no, the Glazers are they're they're a toxic bunch.

507
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,920
But I mean, the power is in their hands.

508
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,120
I don't see them going anywhere because they're just making too much money.

509
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:53,920
That's that's it.

510
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,800
So, well, that's what your fans always think.

511
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,160
We want Glazers out.

512
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,600
We want Glazers out.

513
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,800
We want Glazers out.

514
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:07,600
That's the most important chant I always hear when I watch some highlights of your games.

515
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,080
Carl, what do you think from now on?

516
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,800
There are some good times for many United ahead.

517
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,560
Absolutely.

518
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,840
I mean, like as Brian said, Radcliffe is definitely a very shrewd businessman.

519
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:30,720
I think any manager that walks in there now, I would hope anyway from from Man United's sake

520
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:36,720
that they would say no to some decisions that the manager wants, because I think that too

521
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:43,040
many managers have gone in and like Brian said, the Glazers have kind of thrown the money around

522
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,360
and said, go on, you can spend that you can spend that.

523
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:52,240
But they need to have someone that will say no to them and say, you mean they need they need a coach,

524
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,320
not a manager?

525
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,000
Well, I think they need the structure there.

526
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,960
And I think as as Gary Neville has said, the structure has been put in place and it's

527
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,360
constantly evolving and changing.

528
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,960
And but once they get that right, I think they'll have from top to bottom, like I look at our

529
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:15,440
situation with Arsenal having Edu and the crew that Edu has and they're the ones making the key

530
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,320
transfer decisions.

531
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,840
Obviously, Arteta has input because he has players that he likes to look of

532
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:20,960
and they'll work with that.

533
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,840
But at the end of the day, they're the ones making the decisions.

534
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:29,520
And I think that should have been left out of Eric Tinhag's hands and any manager's hands,

535
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,160
especially in the Man United job, given how big of a responsibility it is coaching the team,

536
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,600
first and foremost, let alone all the other decisions that need to be made.

537
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:40,720
Fair enough.

538
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,240
OK, guys, I think we have come to an end of this wonderful chat about Manchester United.

539
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:48,480
Thank you very much, Brian, for all your insight.

540
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:54,640
And, you know, fair play to you because it's not easy, you know, to get to get guests of teams who

541
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,920
are not doing really well.

542
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,520
It's always easier to, you know, when I invite people, they are all, oh, OK, my team is doing

543
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:01,920
well.

544
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,320
All right.

545
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,160
Yeah, I would like to be on the Footgrish podcast.

546
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:04,640
Sure.

547
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:11,200
When it comes to, you know, guests of the teams that are not doing particularly well, that's

548
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,920
always something I admire and I respect.

549
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:14,400
And thank you.

550
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,520
Thank you for coming on.

551
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,080
Thanks for having me today.

552
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:23,520
It's great and horrible to talk about all the things that are bad, but nice to be here.

553
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,400
Nice to be here.

554
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,200
I hope it's more great than horrible, but you know what?

555
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,080
Definitely.

556
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,920
This doesn't always have to be like this.

557
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,280
True, true.

558
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,000
And also thanks to Gal, of course, your third appearance.

559
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,120
Thank you so much as well.

560
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,720
Always happy.

561
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:39,760
Thanks very much, Dernic.

562
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,200
Take care, guys.

563
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,040
Welcome back to the Language Corner.

564
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,640
As always, in this part of the show, I'm going to be doing my job.

565
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,280
I'm an English teacher, so I might as well have a look at the English language here.

566
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,080
Right.

567
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,200
And this time I'm going to take a look at a little excerpt from Carl's speech.

568
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:07,760
We were basically speculating about who the new Manchester United manager should be.

569
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,760
And this is what Carl said.

570
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,240
I know some people through Nagelsmann's name out there.

571
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:17,840
The German national manager, former Bayern manager.

572
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,800
I personally thought they might have gone for someone like de Zerby.

573
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,640
I think that if they had pulled the trigger on ten Hague in summer,

574
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,120
de Zerby, I think, would have been a great manager to bring in.

575
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,760
He seemed to galvanize that group of Brighton players that,

576
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,880
with a good mix of, like you said, with the Ragnick kind of toughness,

577
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,520
but then also with the arm around the shoulder,

578
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,600
kind of have both elements to him.

579
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,320
I think he's someone they could have gotten, which I think would have been a gamble.

580
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,080
All right.

581
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Well, there are a few words to look at, few phrases.

582
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,480
First of all, I know some people through Nagelsmann's name out there.

583
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,160
So you know what it means to throw, like you can throw a ball.

584
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,600
The past tense is through.

585
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:10,480
But here the meaning is sort of to suggest, to mention.

586
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,680
So some people suggested Nagelsmann's name, right?

587
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,000
And I personally thought they might have gone for someone like de Zerby.

588
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,800
I think that if they had pulled the trigger on ten Hague in summer to pull the trigger,

589
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:30,800
right, when you shoot right from a pistol, you have to pull the trigger to do it.

590
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:37,280
And this phrase is also used when talking about fighting someone, sacking someone.

591
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:45,280
So if, let's say, the club owner pulls the trigger on the manager, they sack the manager.

592
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,840
They make the manager redundant.

593
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:49,200
Right.

594
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,640
So now Eric ten Hague has been sacked because the owners pulled the trigger on him.

595
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:55,920
Right.

596
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,560
OK, he seemed to galvanize.

597
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,280
We are talking about de Zerby, the Brighton manager.

598
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,080
He seemed to he seemed to galvanize that group of Brighton players.

599
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,720
Interesting the word to galvanize.

600
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:15,440
And I think in this case, it kind of means to sort of motivate, right?

601
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,480
To how should I put this?

602
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,320
To well, I'm looking at the definition online now.

603
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,680
It also says here to cause someone to suddenly take action.

604
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:33,120
I kind of like to encourage, to motivate, to, you know, to to

605
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:38,800
to make that person work hard, right?

606
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,160
Make the team work hard.

607
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:45,200
So if you galvanize the team, that means you have a really positive effect as the manager.

608
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:45,920
Right.

609
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,360
And lastly, I think he's someone they could have gotten, which I think would have been a gamble.

610
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:56,960
Gambling, you know what gambling is, like when you play a lottery or betting on sports.

611
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,080
A gamble in this context, it means a risk.

612
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,840
If something is a gamble, it's a risk.

613
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,080
So if if they had gotten the Zerby, it would have been a risk.

614
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:10,000
That's what Carl thinks.

615
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,080
What do you think?

616
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,520
Let me know in the comments on the teachers, then a YouTube channel or send me an email

617
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,280
at the food grish podcast at Gmail dot com.

618
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,200
And don't forget to subscribe if you haven't done so already.

619
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,280
This podcast is available on that YouTube channel that I've just mentioned,

620
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:35,120
but also on Apple podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts, really.

621
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,120
Thank you very much.

622
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,360
And I will speak to you soon.

623
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,720
Take care, guys.

624
00:42:40,720 --> 00:43:00,800
Bye bye.