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You're listening to the Footglish Podcast. Love football, learn English.

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What's it like to listen to a football game on the radio?

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What did the Spanish commentator do when Miquel Mourinho scored the winner against Germany?

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Are the Spanish fans confident that their team will defeat France?

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And what's the difference between a foul and fault?

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What's the difference between a foul and a foul?

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I'm joined by my former student, my current friend and an English teacher who holds a pass, a Celta, Jolie.

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Hi Jolie, welcome to the Footglish Podcast.

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Hi Zdenek, a pleasure to be here. It's my first time in your Footglish Podcast. Oh my God, so difficult to pronounce.

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That's okay. You know, it's not that famous yet, but when it is, everyone in the world will know how to pronounce this name, including my guests.

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Okay.

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That's fine. So Jolie, it's fantastic to have you here, of course. We have known each other for a long time.

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But I had no idea you were interested in football. That's new for me.

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Well, I'm not really sure if saying that I'm interested in football is really, you know, I used to be in the past.

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I quite liked to go to the stadium and watch the football, like Spanish league and all that.

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But then I would say since 2010, maybe 2012, I just, you know, started to like all the things and I just like football behind a little bit.

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Wow, that's now I'm not sure if you should even be a guest on this podcast. Jolie, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but I have to subject you to a test.

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We need to test. We need to test my knowledge. Yeah, just I'm going to ask you some basic questions here.

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Let me ask you. Let me ask you a few questions to determine if you should even be a guest on this podcast.

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Okay. Okay. So my question number one is how many players are there on the pitch when a football game starts?

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No idea. Ten, twelve, ten. I think it's ten. I don't know. I don't know, to be honest. So we have three to so the in the center.

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I think there are three and then two defensive and then three. The ones that attack. I don't know the name. I don't even know the words we use.

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Strikers. Don't worry, Jolie. Let me help you. There are eleven players. Eleven. Oh, well. Wait, wait for each side.

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So you have got twenty two players on the pitch when the game starts. Okay. All right. I thought you meant just one team.

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So I said ten, twelve, more or less. You were close. You were close.

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Okay. Well, what's a red card, Jolie? What's a red card? Red card means one of the players needs to go out of the pitch.

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Probably because he has made a fold or something or a double fold or a player that I think you're talking about.

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I think you're talking about tennis, Jolie. Double fold. That sounds like tennis to me.

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How do you say that in football? I don't know. You commit a foul. Foul. Oh, foul. Okay. Yeah.

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I thought you were talking about tennis there for a second. So, well, you know, I told you I'm not an expert.

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That's fine. We're still testing you. We still haven't seen the results of this test. So you might still nail it. We will see.

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My third question is what is an offside, Jolie? What is an outside? Offside. Oh, offside.

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Offside. Actually, that's a tough one. That's... Offside.

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I'm not sure if you mean when a striker is about to like they want to score a goal, but one of the players is in an advantageous position.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And then they are not allowed to pass them the ball. They are not allowed. Yeah. And when they do, the referee should raise the flag.

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Or these days there is a VAR, the video assistant referee, and then they check it. And if a player is in that position, the goal, if this results in a goal is is disallowed.

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Yeah, the game has to stop there. Yeah. Exactly. Well, nice one. So my last question, Jolie, I don't want to torture you anymore.

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No, that's fine. Can a player touch the ball with their hand? No, obviously they can't. Just like just a goalkeeper. Yeah.

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Well, that's that's it. Everywhere, everywhere on the pitch. Can the goalkeeper touch the ball everywhere on the pitch? Yeah, I think so.

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No, not not everywhere. Only in the area of the. Yeah, only in the box, in a penalty box. Otherwise, a goalkeeper could take the ball literally and score with it.

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Yeah, that's true. Jolie, I thought you didn't start very well, but now the last few questions you've answered correctly. So I think you've passed the test.

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I deserve to be here. OK, that's great. By the skin of the teeth, but it's OK. You know, you did it. It doesn't matter how, but you're here.

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So welcome to the Footglish podcast officially. And Jolie, you're also the first woman on this podcast. Can you believe it? The first woman.

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So I hope to be an inspiration for all the women that want to talk about football. Why not? Exactly.

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Well, it's because I don't know that many women interested in football. I actually used to date one woman, right?

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But that was like ages ago, maybe 15 years ago. But now she's my ex. So I don't generally talk to my exes, you know, but she used to play football.

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I know there are women, there are women who are interested in football out there. I just don't know enough of them.

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You know, that's why it's mostly men on this podcast. But mostly men. Yeah, it's great that today is different.

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You know, we will have a different vibe. And I like that. And Jolie, I think we're going to have a very happy vibe because your team, Spain, because you're Spanish.

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Your team, Spain, beat Germany yesterday 2-1. We are in the semifinals.

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Now you won this very important quarterfinal game and you made it to the semifinal now. So I want to ask you, did you watch the game?

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I watched just the last part, the extra time, just the extra time. Yeah, because I had things to do.

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I didn't even know what one of my colleagues at work told me. Oh, this afternoon, Spain is playing this afternoon. I said, oh, OK, I'm going to because I seriously I'm just completely disconnected from the football world, you know, and and all that.

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So just because one of my colleagues told me I was doing things, I was driving my car to a different place. So I just put it on the radio.

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So you were listening to a football match on the radio. It's like kind of old school. This is old school. I like that.

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So what was the experience like then? What was it like? Yeah, well, it was, you know, because I guess it's similar in other countries, but Spanish presenters or commentators, the Spanish commentators are like so like extremely enthusiastic when they talk about

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everything that is happening with so, you know, a great amount of detail. And it seems almost like you are watching the match, you know, that's that's that's their job. And they make it very well.

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That's probably they are very good at this. They're good. They're very good at their job. And, you know, they want to present an amazing experience to the listeners.

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So they make you feel nervous. They make you feel, you know, like, oh, my God, what's happening? Come on, come on.

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So did you did you manage to focus on the driving while you were listening?

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Yeah, of course. Always. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, I have to. I have to do it. So I just listened to the beginning.

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Because then I had to go somewhere and do some stuff. So I listened to the beginning. Then I listened to almost the end of the match. Did you catch any of the goals? Did you catch any of the goals on the radio?

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No, no, no, no, no, no. I caught the foul, foul, fault. I don't know how to pronounce it. Sorry. Foul. I caught the foul, foul, foul at the beginning. Donnie Cross, apparently.

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I don't know how to say this. Like, he made it. He made a tackle. Yeah. Yeah. He made a tackle. It was a foul. But but no yellow card was given.

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It was at the beginning of the game. Yeah, exactly. I think it was one really bad foul. Yeah, exactly.

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One of one of the Spanish players got injured as a result of that. And then at bed, they got injured.

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It was in the fourth minute or something. Yeah, exactly. Just at the beginning. And he got he got away with it. Yeah. Tony Cross, because it should have been a yellow card. It was actually quite a nasty foul.

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And he got away with it. Yep. He got away with it. And then he didn't get punished. Yeah. Many people is criticizing that. Not only that one, but also there were like two, three, four. I don't know.

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And he didn't he didn't get any like, you know, yellow, yellow cards. He got one. He got one towards the end of the second half. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? At the end of the day, it doesn't matter because your team, your team managed to win.

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So you you you scored your first goal through Daniel Olmo, I believe. And the youngest player at Euro, Lamin Jamal made it made a fantastic assist there. Did you know that you have the youngest player like historically the youngest player at the Euros?

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I didn't know. He's 16 year old. He's a child. Oh my God. He's a kid. He could be one of your students, you know. Yeah. Very young. Amazing. A teenager. He's he's incredible. He's been playing.

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I'm already a professional football player. 16 year old. Yeah, that's amazing. He is incredible. He is one of the best stars of the tournament, providing assists left, right and center. I think he's got three assists already under his belt.

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He played a huge part in that Daniel Olmo goal.

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And then the Germans managed to equalize. Unfortunately, yeah, it was Florian Wirtz, the German wonder kid. The game was almost over and they did it. I was a seal in my car when when that happened.

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So you know. So you heard. So you heard that. I heard that. Yeah, you heard that live. I heard that. Yeah. Yeah. So that must have been a real sucker punch, you know. But then you kept going and you wanted an extra time. The game didn't even go to penalties.

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Yeah, I thought we were going to penalties. Yeah, I thought. By the time you were already watching the game, right. I was already watching the game. Yeah, because I got home and I said, well, at least I'm going to watch the last part, you know.

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And you scored in the very last moment in the 119th minute.

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But do you know who the goal scorer was? I think it was Mikkel something. Mikkel Merino. Mikkel Merino. Yeah, Mikkel Merino. Mikkel Merino is your is your hero now because because he sent you to the semifinal.

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And what was your reaction when that happened? Did you like scream or shout or anything? I think I jumped out of my, you know, like, oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. And that's it.

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What about the commentators? I think these are the only matches. Well, commentators going crazy completely, as always.

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But these matches are the ones that I think people enjoy the most. You know, like the semifinals and you know, these kind of competitions.

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Knockout stages, yeah, the knockout stage.

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So I like watching these matches. Then I don't watch the league, for example. It's boring. Maybe maybe I can watch a final.

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Maybe you always you always go for the for the best things, you know, like you.

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That's why you are a guest on this podcast. I guess you always choose you. You're very picky, Julie. You choose the best, you know, just the cream of the crop.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, why not? Why not? You know what you what you like, you know, you know what you deserve. Exactly.

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So then you have a little problem as well, because one of your players, Daniel Carvajal. Oh, yes, I know. He's not going to play.

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He got sent off. He got that red card. That was I mean, I agree with what he did. He has he had to do it.

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I have done the same, you know, like I'm not going to allow you to go there. No, no, no, no, because the victory is ours just now.

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So, you know, he had to risk it. We have we have a word for that, Julie.

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It was a tactical foul. Tactical foul. No foul foul. A tactical foul. A tactical foul.

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A tactical foul. How do you spell it? Is it F-O-W-L? F-O-U-L. No, F-O-U-L. Foul. See, I don't know the like specific words.

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Yeah, yeah. It's it's basically usually it's a tackle. Yeah, that is illegal. Right.

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And then it's up to the referee if if the referee decides that that tackle is illegal. It's a foul at that point.

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And sometimes the referee lets it lets the game play. Yeah, he considers that there's nothing there or it's not on purpose or or makes a mistake.

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Sometimes the referee makes a mistake and lets the player off. And then it's not a foul. It's it's not officially a foul.

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Right. It's a tack. It was a tackle, but the referee didn't blow the whistle. So then you cannot say it's a foul.

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It looked like a foul. It probably was a foul, but officially the referee did not stop the game. So, yeah.

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Yes, something similar happened to in the extra time.

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There was there was we were like in a dangerous situation while Germany was trying to score a goal.

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And the ball hit one of the hands of our player, Spanish player, but the referee didn't, you know, didn't stop.

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He said there was nothing. Obviously, the Germans were like, oh, penalty, penalty.

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But no, you're right, Jolie. You're right. Thank you. Thank you for bringing this up. Thank you for bringing this up.

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I have forgotten about this. So I was away with it as well. Yeah, you did.

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It was a penalty incident. Yeah, it should have been a penalty.

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One of your players hit the ball with their hand and that's that's considered a handball in football.

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And the referee didn't blow the whistle and the VAR didn't come back to it.

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There is a theory. There's a theory that the VAR, the video assistant referee, they have seen the foul prior to this handball.

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Sorry, an offside prior to this handball. Yeah. But but nobody told us.

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So the Germans, they they feel hard done by the Germans feel like this was unfair. Yeah, that's true.

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But I don't I don't think the Spanish care. Obviously, you know, the way round, if it's the other way round, well, yeah, we will go like, you know, nuts.

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You will go nuts. You will go crazy. Yeah. Okay, Julie. Excellent.

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So next opponent, France in the semi final next Tuesday, nine o'clock. Sounds like I'm going to watch it.

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Now, now you're becoming now you're becoming a true football fan.

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You are even discussing football on a football podcast. So you have you have to you have to know.

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I'm becoming a VIP member of your podcast now. Yeah, exactly.

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Well, if Spain wins the Euro, then we can do a special podcast.

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Well, you are the only Spanish person that I can talk to these days. I was looking for someone.

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To be honest, I wanted to cover most of these big teams. Yeah.

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I wanted to talk to someone who represents from that who represents that country.

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Right. So I was struggling. I have been struggling with Portugal and Spain a little bit.

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Yeah. So I know some Spanish. I know some Spanish people, but for some reason, they don't like football.

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And you are the closest to that that I could that I could find.

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So, yeah, well, anyway, I like football.

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I like football just when, you know, in these occasions when there is like a special match or a special competition or something like that, then I like it.

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But otherwise, I'm not I'm not great like follower.

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I think I think you are getting better now. I think you did a great job.

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I think you described this game. You told us how I've learned.

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I've learned the word fall, which I didn't know.

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Well, now, you know, now, hopefully our listeners also know.

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And I guess this will be it for today's episode of the Footgrish podcast.

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So, yeah, thank you very much for coming on.

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Thank you for reminding me. You're very good luck.

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Good luck to French people next Tuesday.

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Was that sarcastic or was it? Well, we are very strong.

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We are very strong. I'm sorry. Did you really mean it?

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I'm not sure you meant I'm not sure you meant it. No, good luck. Good luck.

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Good luck. Yeah. Good luck.

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Seriously, seriously. What if your team loses?

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What if your team loses and now everybody will be blaming you

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because you wished the French team good luck?

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No, no, no. Are you sure about what you said?

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Good luck. But we are we are we are very good.

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So I'm confident that we are going to pass.

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Well, you as a guest, you're going to you're going to progress or advance.

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Oh, well, you were also good as a guest, Jolie. Thank you very much.

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Thank you. See you next time. I will speak to you soon. Bye bye.

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Take care. Bye.

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Welcome back to the language corner.

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As always in this part of the show, I'm going to teach you something.

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And this time, let's clarify the word foul.

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Right. So a foul is not the same as fault. OK.

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Well, obviously, you guys know the word fault when you say something like it's my fault.

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Yeah, it's you're admitting that it's your mistake.

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If you say it's my fault, you are the person that is responsible for making that mistake.

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Also, we use the word fault when talking about tennis, right?

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When it's your serve, when you're serving and you don't hit the ball into that box that you have to,

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then it's a fault. And if you do it twice, it's called a double fault.

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And that means the opponent gets one point. So this is the word fault.

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But we don't really use the word fault in football unless we say like it's somebody's fault.

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When somebody makes a mistake, I suppose you could say, oh, this was the goalkeeper's fault.

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Then you could say that it was the goalkeeper's mistake.

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But otherwise, when we're talking about tackles, which are illegal,

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those are called fouls. Fouls.

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Yeah. If you cannot remember the pronunciation of the word foul,

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then you can remember the word Raul. Raul Gonzalez.

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Remember that player, that excellent Spanish player.

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So it's the same pronunciation. Raul. Foul.

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OK. And be careful how you spell it as well. It's F-O-U-L. A foul.

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Now, we use this in a combination with the verb commit.

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So you can commit a foul. If you commit a foul, well,

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it means that you make an illegal tackle. OK.

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This word foul is also used in a combination with some other words.

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For example, we could use it to talk about a throwing, which is illegal.

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We call that a foul throw, actually. Yeah.

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And then we can talk about an intentional foul.

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Or in the podcast I spoke about, a tactical foul.

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You can also use it on its own as a verb. You can foul somebody.

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If you foul somebody, again, you make an illegal tackle,

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which should be usually punished by the referee in some way.

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Either the referee gives a free kick or if it's something more serious,

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then it could be a yellow card or even a red card.

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Right. And we also use the word foul in the combination with the word language.

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If somebody uses a foul language, then it means that that person is actually swearing,

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you know, is using a lot of dirty, offensive words.

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That person is very rude. So the word foul has more meanings,

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but the one that is used in football and in sports in general

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means an act that is against the rules of a sport.

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It's also used with the preposition on. You can commit a foul on somebody.

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Yeah. Or a player is sent off for a foul on somebody. Right.

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So, for example, the Czech player Barak was sent off for two fouls,

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for two yellow card fouls. Right.

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