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This is episode 577. I'm, of course, Dear Joe
and Mike. Joining me once again, as always, here
in Mutant March 2025 is my good buddy, my turtle
brother, Mr. Joe Reed, with him in his Hawaiian
shirt. Hello, shirt. Hi. Hi. I can't talk anymore.
That opening salvo of 575's introduction for
12 years of the podcast basically killed me with
being able to actually talk coherently. Well,
I can understand you. I think we're alright.
Let's hope. And I'm not making fun of anyone.
I'm having actual problems using my tongue these
days and actually having language issues with
actually being able to discuss things on podcasts.
But I have a huge problem. This is interesting.
I have a huge fucking problem with this comic
book series now. I was hoping for something more.
What happened? Oh, my God. Fucking no. Uh -huh.
Hate no. Ugh. So when we did the free comic book
day, was it the free comic book day issue or
the annual? Wherever we first saw the white turtles.
Yep. And I'm sure people listening to this episode
that haven't listened to the other episodes are
probably going to need context. There are an
alternate version. set of four ninja turtles
that wear white masks so when we say white turtles
folks we're not trying to be reverse racism or
anything like that we don't do any kind of political
bullshit on this podcast whatsoever and we're
not talking about lita who is a white yeah yeah
exactly lita is a white turtle quite literally
these are white masked turtles that are not wearing
masks over their headbands. I can't talk either,
Mike. It's great. But they're wearing face masks,
more like a stereotypical ninja thing. Yes. Dude,
it broke my fucking heart. I was hoping for something.
Because the whole point of the white turtles
is that, at least I thought the whole point of
them was that... The weapons are mixed up. The
characters are mixed up. Everything is different.
Like, how you've got alternate dimension type
thing. I thought, I literally thought they were
Turtles Forever -ing this shit. I thought they
were going to pull, create something new. and
do something where this was another dimension
version of the... So for anyone who doesn't know,
listening to the sound of my voice, what Turtles
Forever is, was a cartoon film back in 07. Whenever
Turtles Forever came out, I forget when it came
out, and I'm not looking it up right now. But
the point of that film is the 2003 version of
the Turtles at the time. Got together with the
87 Turtles. They then went back in time and got
together with the first ever animated version
of the original Mirage Turtles to stop Shredder
and Krang and the Utroms and all of that from
destroying the universe. Turtles were. I thought
it was another version of the Turtles. I didn't
realize it was something as stupid as Null. People
dressed... Now, I just sat in this chair that
I'm sitting in and read all of those books, and
I don't recall that information being in my stack
of books. But I knew with the mouse guy that
was doing the experiments on all the mutants,
he had the turtle parts, and he had that phone
call with somebody. And it was kind of apparent
that he was trying to make turtle clones for
that person. And I'm pretty sure that was Null.
Yes, it was Null. You have the Volume 7 trade.
I have... Yeah, and I read the issues that you
told me. There's something in that trade that's
not from these issues. Really? Yeah, Null did
not appear in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 books. Huh.
Interesting. But I know the story you're talking
about. I think I read it in one of the other
books. Okay. So maybe it was just me doing research
on the characters because I went to Turtlepedia.
Huh? Because I wanted to know. I wanted to find
out. I wanted to figure out after we had seen
them in that free comic book day thing. So maybe
that's where I got the information from. To find
out that the Gang of Four, I think is what it
was called. Or whatever. I don't know. But that's
my rant, folks. I was highly disappointed. But
it's just... It's just a... It's just somebody
in disguise. Like, it's not... I really... Okay,
so the way that I... I actually wrote out this
whole thing. I don't have it in front of me,
and I'm not going to read it, obviously, but
basically, when I found all this out after doing
all this research about the white turtles, I
felt like Donatello in Secret of the Ooze. Yeah.
Where it's like, man... Where he finds out that
they're just an accident. Yeah! I thought there
was more. I thought there was, you know, a reason.
Like, yeah. I just always thought there'd be
more to it. To the ooze. To, you know, us. I
know. I always thought there'd be something.
That... I thought we'd find out we were special.
Do not confuse the specter of your origin with
your present worth, my son. I don't believe him.
There's just got to be more to it. That's honestly
kind of where the IDW has kind of picked up the
ball from every other previous Turtle's origin.
Is that, yeah, it always has been an accident.
You know, the ooze off the back of the truck.
Yeah, they find out that it's the Utram ooze
that... ended up down there, but it was an accident.
And this time, with these guys coming from being
reincarnated from Japan, it does mean more. The
whole mutagen, and their fate has intertwined
with the Triceratons since the age of the dinosaurs.
And that's cool. Secret of the Usedani would
be really happy to know that. Yeah, I would absolutely
hope so, that Secret of the Usedani would be
happy to know that, absolutely. Professor Jordan
Perry was supposed to be in U -Trum. I bet he
was, and we just never found out. Have we gotten
him in... We haven't gotten Perry in... Perry
was name -dropped as someone that Harold was
talking to. Okay, he was name -dropped, but we've
never actively ever seen him. Nope, they did
not. To my understanding, and based on what we
talked to Bobby about years and years ago, that
they didn't have a lot of those background character
rights from the movies, but I think something
changed when NECA started making Kino and Danny
and Tatsu in action figure form. That feels like
Nickelodeon got the license. I made a Jordan
Perry action figure too, which now I kind of
actually want to... buy that and put an Utram
in his stomach. Like, do a custom with a fabric
lab coat that you can pull back and it's an Utram.
Bobby, brother, you're in charge. Well, I mean,
you're not, you know, whatever, but you know
what I mean. Yeah, the licensors will probably
let you have him now. Figure it out, because
guess what? It would be a great homage since
David Warner passed away three years ago. We
need Professor Jordan Perry in the new book somehow.
Oh, man, that would be so cool. Oh, damn it.
Professor Jordan Perry, since we can't have him
work for TCRI, he could be the president of ENCOM.
Yeah, ENCOM from John. Oh, my God. Yeah, talk
about, talk, talk, oh God, can you imagine? Can
you imagine? This, okay, I know, I don't know
what Jason Aaron is doing currently with, I don't
know how that's going as far as like the characterization,
but in the one to 150 issues, how our Mikey in
this series has gone after, especially after
issue 50. When we meet Mikey way back in issue
51, when he is split. Can you imagine Mikey on
a friggin' light cycle? Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
All right, folks. Reborn, TMNT Reborn, Volume
7, Isolation. As Joe mentioned, the main cover
features Rat King, the Null Horny Chick, Baxter
Stockman. uh um uh nope that one uh that's a
surprise that's yeah that's um they give that
well they gave it a what wow i didn't even realize
it well we all thought that was cheryl yeah we
all thought that was cheryl that's not cheryl
that's um By the time this cover ends up on the
comics, the episodes or the issues of Armageddon
Game would have known when that character showed
up. Yeah, absolutely. But, yeah. Because when
that showed up... It's a metalhead. Yeah. Piloted
by an U -Trom. Uh -huh. Because... Okay, so you
gotta think. This is, like we said... Ooh, Casey
and Sheena. Dudley the Cowlick. Wait, what? That
thing on the cowlick box. Oh, it's the cowlick.
Okay, I thought that was... Whoops, sorry, Sheena.
Didn't mean to disrespect you like that. So this
is TMNT issues number 133 to 139. The people
who worked on this book, that's not what I wanted
to say, but the people who worked on this book,
story done by Sophie Campbell, art by Firo Pay,
Colors done by Rhonda Pattison, as always. Also,
letters done by Sean Lee, story consultants Kevin
Eastman, Tom Waltz. I also want to draw, since
I'm drawing from the collected edition, cover
by Farrow Pay, series editors Jonathan Manning
and Charles Beecham. Series Associate Editor
Zach Boone. Series Editorial Assistant Nicholas
Nino. Collection Editor Alonzo Simon. Collection
Group Editor Chris Simon. And Collection Design
done by Sean Lee. That's the other thing Sean
does a lot of the times. A lot of the times he
will do the collection design, which this is
amazing. The way the collections are designed
with the images that we see on this interior
and how the color, and obviously this is Rhonda's
coloring, and how they changed that and whatever.
So, yeah. We start in the future. And I have
no idea what's going on here. Me either. I was
like, what in the heck is going on? The future
journals in the old Archie series, that's a really
important storyline. And I always wait for any
turtle series when it goes into the future to
pull little things from that. And I need to go
back and reread that because I think they are
going to make some pretty key references to it
pretty soon. But Bob, please don't do this. And
he's got this monkey has some sort of device.
And I think it's old man Donatello. And we know
who that lady is now. It's Harmon. Yep. Yeah,
I think it's Donnie. I don't think it's Leo.
The stick he's carrying. He pulls a sword from
it. He pulls a sword from it. Yeah. He visits
later. That moment. I don't know. It doesn't
look like he hits a button, but there's this
weird glowing shark. shaped thing that is like
devouring the world. I know what that shark thing
is because I read the Archie series way back
in the day. Alright, well, I mean, it comes back
though, doesn't it? Yeah, because this ends with...
I'm getting the sense that it's like, oh my man,
pulling from Stephen King back here, like the
Langoliers, I think? They were those little...
Pac -Man monster, whatever. I watched the movie
and had no clue what was going on. I was a child.
But these little Pac -Man monsters would come
by and eat the end of time. As time went forward,
they would consume it. I'm kind of getting the
sense that that's what this thing is doing, is
it's eating the end of time. I don't know. But
Carmen wakes up. Oh, nope, you're right, it's
Leo. Because she wakes up and says, No, Leo!
Okay. Yeah, yeah, it is Leo. It would have to
be Leo if he's pulling a... Yeah, Donnie would
not pull a sword, so maybe old man Leo needed
to use... Yeah, yeah, yeah. So... She sees Ciri.
And Ciri has pepperoni. And... Who's the cat?
Maybe Clunk. That's a little too fuzzy to be
Clunk. Yeah, that's a little too fuzzy to be
clunk. Honestly, I don't remember clunk. Pepperoni
I remember because pepperoni is pepperoni, and
you mess with pepperoni, Raph is going to...
Raph is going to go up. Ain't nobody going to
mess with pepperoni. It's like putting anchovies
on pizza. You don't want to do that. You're going
to get hooked up. So it looks like Donnie is
playing the man in the chair for every other
storyline going on right now in the other books.
Yep, pretty much. He is. Very much so. Locked
up in the compound. Bunches of monitors. Yep.
I like that. I absolutely like that. I think
that's cool. I think, uh, calm seat Donnie is
a good thing. At least for now. Until he actually
has to get out and get back into, oh man, you
would not. So, uh, this is, what did I say? This
is episode 577. This will air probably March
19th. I believe. So, we are recording this, like,
weeks ahead of when it'll actually air, folks,
but I read this the night before we recorded.
And y 'all know, if y 'all have been listening
to Joe and I discuss this series for the last
11 years here inside the Pull Bag, only on the
Geekcast Radio Network, y 'all know how emotional
I get reading this book. I love... command seat
Donnie here, but when he suits up and he gets
back into action, ah, just, ah, it's so good.
So good. So April calls in and Siri comes in
with pepperoni and Siri and April meet through
the screen. Um, Apparently Siri forgot Donatello's
name. She's forgetting everybody's name because
there's so many new people that she has to...
I mean, I kind of get that. You know, she's...
You know. There's that magic aging tech. You
know, there are moments where she seems completely
together and understands the complex situation,
but then is like, I've never seen this thing
before. What is this? Yeah, what is this? And...
I love seeing April here. I love seeing April
on the screen talking to Donnie. I love that
she and Mona are hanging back in the newsroom
while Lola speaks out and goes on location and
all that and everything else. And we have Carmen,
Donnie, and Siri here doing their thing. And
Siri picks up a little, I almost thought it was
a mouser, but it's not. It's a little camera
bot thing. It's from the video game. Yeah. The
arcade game. Yeah, that's very cool. Yeah. Man,
they throw in everything, don't they? So we get...
Oh, and Space Heroes on the poster back there
behind Ceres asking, who are these Space Heroes?
Could they help us defeat the Utrums? Space Heroes
was 2012 Leonardo's show that he took leadership
inspiration from. Yup. Again, IDW just doesn't
miss a beat to what it is. Is Bigfoot real too?
Probably. Probably. And then she touches the
crystal Donnie is experimenting on. He's like,
no, don't do that. Magic's gotta be a real thing
too, right? Is it a magic crystal? Well, magic
is just science that wasn't yet explained. I
love how Donnie has gotten to the point of where
he's not so anal about it all being science,
but he's not also so anal of it being, it's all
magical mumbo jumbo. Because back in the day,
Donnie would be, it must have an explanation.
It must be explained. There must be a scientific
method to everything. The other thing is reincarnation.
He says as he is being reincarnated. Yep. Mikey
just starts speaking in Japanese. Wait, how did
you? Oh, boy. He comes around by the end of this.
Yeah, he does. He completely comes around at
the end of this. Literally. So he kind of shoos
them out of his lab. And Ciri wants revenge on
Shirelle. And Donnie's like, one thing at a time,
but I promise you'll get your chance. And Carmen
says, you should probably stay inside for a little
while. What'd you say we play some video games?
What are video games? Oh, just you wait. So that's
going to keep Ciri busy for a while. Training.
Yup. And we get back into Mutant Town and we
got a new constable in town. Oh yeah, because
Raph's off doing something. Basically, the rest
of the turtles are throughout most of this book
in the other stories, the other books that are
coming out. And so we've got Raph off doing something,
looking for Hob or whatnot. And Jennica has stepped
up to be the acting constable in a town of ungrateful...
I like her as ungrateful little shit mutants.
I'm trying to protect you. Yeah, exactly. But
no, I like Jennica as the new constable. I think
this role fits her well. She would say it's less
appropriate coming from a life of crime and getting
in trouble with the law all that time, but...
uh it's somebody like that that has a reformation
that i think makes a really good cop because
you know how not yeah yeah absolutely because
she said to do all her own redeeming i was gonna
say i was gonna say recompense but i knew that
wasn't the right word uh but you know she said
to have her own redemption be done and she's
had all the stuff that's gone that she's gone
through so she's more she's more understanding
than wrath being wrath and beat the door down
arrest everybody yep i mean if if people need
to be arrested they'll be arrested but you know
you can have a little bit of compassion and we
got dj mona here on the radio and she gives an
update on to pretty much all the other stuff
uh she talks about what's going on in mutant
town and how jenny's going around and she's giving
positive vibes and all that good stuff and uh
Jenny gets a call from Sheena, so there's that.
We do that, and Sheena is not doing so well.
Yeah, there's going to have to be some kind of
moment for her later to recover. Recover? They
practically break in. Emotionally. So in our
Mutant March journey here so far, folks, doing
the Reborn trades or the Reborn story arcs here
to get to the end of the main series before they
switched it over to the Volume 2 version of Turtles
where Jason Aaron is writing the stories, I've
had a bunch of different feelings, but it's one
of those things where... I still like the story
overall, but man, again, the emotional hits that
this series just... And again, it's about the
characters. It's not about... Oh my god! I think
it was in episode 575, because folks, by the
time you're going to hear this, I will have already
edited all the other stuff. As of this current
recording, I am just now finishing the edit on
episode 575. But by the time you'll hear this,
you'll have already heard it. You had said something
in that episode about missing reading in your
car that first day, getting the Wednesday...
I almost said free comic book day. Wow. Wednesday,
new comic book day, etc., etc., etc. And I'm
sitting here thinking, no, wait for the trade.
No, wait for the trade. No, wait for the trade.
And my thing is, is like most people that, and
we were also talking about in that episode about
like, who is this being made for? Is this, you
had asked in that episode, like when we, or yeah,
you had asked in that episode, who is this being
made for when we get. the movie references, because
the movie lives in our heads. Like, you know,
we see anybody with a pair of nunchucks that
is twirling them on their finger and saying,
you know, the first thing we're going to say
is keep practicing. You know, because, you know,
I brought marshmallows. Put those things away.
Anybody who's got sausage hooked together on
the skin. Combat cold cuts. Combat cold cuts.
Yeah, exactly. Like, we have that rent -free
in our head, but not everyone does, because not
everyone is 40 -something -year -old males. Maybe
certain story points like this story with Jennica
and Sheena are appealing to the female audience.
I don't know. I was trying to think about that.
When I went back and I edited that, as I was
editing that episode, I had... Your question
in my head as I was reading this trade that we're
discussing now, like, who is IDW making this
for? And it's the same thing I said, not trying
to get quoted again on a new cover, but it's
the same thing I said before they took our quote
and put it on issue 55. This series is for anyone
who has ever been a TMNT fan. Young, old, boy,
girl. In between whatever you want to classify
yourself as, I don't care who you are. If you
are a human being, because right now, currently,
in humankind, there are no mutants. So, you know
what I mean? It's kind of like that question
in the Comic Origins, in all of my Origins episodes
that I do. Whether it's toy collecting, whether
it's video games, whether it's cartoons, comic
books, whatever. Who should this be made for?
Because most of that question normally is, most
people view, let's just say as an example, as
a prelude, folks, because we're going to get
Joe on the video game one at some point, but...
Most parents or most people view video games
as something that should be for kids and adults
shouldn't partake in video games. Who do you
think, in your opinion, video games should be
made for? Everybody. That's usually the... Anytime
I ask that question, I can insert whatever topic.
It doesn't matter if it's video games, comic
books, toy collection. It doesn't matter what
the hell it is. The usual answer, this should
be made for everybody. And the whole point of
me spewing all this stuff here now with my voice
is that this comic series is for everybody. It
has something for everybody. And... The emotional
swings that this series goes through and this
call in this page, in this scene where Jenica...
Is she calling Sheena or is Sheena calling her?
I forget what's... It looks like Jenica called
her. I wanted to call and see how you feel. So
Jenica called Sheena and then we see that Sheena's
not actually doing so well because she's hiding.
in bed under the covers. And that's going to
come up later because of certain events. Because
unfortunately, they do bad things. They as in
other people, separate people that are bad people.
Stupid, filthy, evil mutants. So we got Constable
Jen... And this guy. Yeah. I responded to this
as... You know, there are some people who think
the government should be doing this thing or
that thing or not this. And, you know, we back
the blue, but we also get mad at the blue when
they pull us over for speeding. Like, wait, wait,
pick a side, man. And here's a cranky dog in
the food market watching Jennica the constable
go by and say, are you kidding? How about less
people patrolling us? Like, dude, she's there
for you. She's going to. protect you from the
thing. That's why. They're not looking at you.
Up until I scrolled in and I saw what he was
saying, that this here, the wide shot of him,
just the way that his character is drawn, the
way his hat is, the way his sunglasses are, the
way his clothing is, I'm like, oh. Hello, law
enforcement. Literally, I thought it was McGruff
the Crime Dog, honestly. I really did. And then
I read what he was saying, and I'm like, oh,
that's not McGruff the Crime Dog. Oh, yeah. And
then we get Jennica meeting up with, oh, what's
the... I know that's Lita. What's her name? Oh.
Whoever she is, I hope they call her Aunt something
or other. Yeah, it's Lola. There we go. I forgot
who Lola is. That's not Lola. She's saying Lola
is at the State of the City address. It's a good
thing this universe's Baxter isn't white. That's
all I'm going to say. That's all I'm going to
say about that. Because Baxter... Koya is looking
for Bludgeon. Bludgeon is sneaking down to the
basement because he has a hidden friend. Oh,
yes. Oh, yes. And they are training. So it's
Bludgeoned and Venus, and they are both distracted.
And all of a sudden, Venus's arm does something
really, really weird, and they try to meditate
more. They both seem pretty chill about her just
regrowing an arm spontaneously. Yeah. That was
a little, okay, we're just going to put that
over here. And they meditate, meditate, meditate,
and apparently, what's Donnie doing? I mean,
she's meditating, and her meditation basically
reaches out to him. Yep, they're tied together.
Either he felt her or she accidentally contacted
him. Yes. And he asks her, where are you? But
what I find so interesting about this is her
going from the human that she was to the frog
that she was to obviously who she is now. So
it's Bonnie all the way to Venus. What I find
really interesting about this page is that when
we see the meditation between the two of them,
hers starts out with... Her as a human, her as
a frog, and then her as she is now. So we go
Bonnie as a human, Bonnie as a frog, and then
Venus as the turtle that she is. And then Donnie's
is Donnie as he is, but he's meditating on Bebop,
Rocksteady, and Rat King? No, that's the surgeon.
Fucker, Barlow. Oh, Dr. Barlow! Yeah, yeah, Dr.
Barlow. Okay, so Rocksteady, Bebop, Rocksteady,
and Dr. Barlow. So those are the three that Donnie...
But he doesn't look like he's really, I mean,
sitting at the... He wasn't. I think it was just
she intruded by accident. And brought that out
of him. Okay. That's both of their trauma. Yes.
Her two former lives now being this new thing
and him, the destruction and rebuilding of his
shell and the hope of getting it replaced, but
not, but not. Yep. Gotcha. Oh, Don. Yep. She
says, uh, I can't tell you right now where I
am. Wait, no. Damn it. Let me see on the screen.
Baxter says, We cannot yet be certain if our
mutated neighbors are to be trusted. You can
rest assured that your mayor will continue to
keep you and yours safe from now, from any harm
they may be capable of. And Donnie is just like,
lies. No, I think that's coming through the television.
Somebody at the door is saying. That's right.
That's right. Lies. Safe and secure from the
big bad mutant. Yep. Lies. Oh, yes. Yep. The
next page. Yep. The next page is... Oh, that...
Yeah. They are here. The white turtles are attacking
him during his state of the state. Or state of
the city address. Mm -hmm. And the whole thing
is it's a ploy, these fake turtles, to frame
our turtles for... Yep. Yep. For the attack,
yeah. So they are here, they are in this trade,
and that is why I ended up going to search out,
that's why I did all my research of trying to
figure out who the hell they are, who the hell
made them, yadda yadda yadda yadda, hoping for
something more than just, oh, they're just four
null numbskulls dressed up as turtles. Oh man,
there's nothing more than that? Come on! I mean,
I know the one part in Turtles 2 is more funny
than the disappointment, but I really feel like
Donatello, when he was hiding, when he was doing
the pointed stick thing... when he was acting
like the little doll when the foot soldier pushed
him and he pushed back and he poked him in the
eye and he grabbed the thing and whacked him
with the thing. I feel like that doll thing going
back and forth. I'm like, oh, damn it! Is it,
isn't it? It isn't, unfortunately. I wanted more.
In 11 years, have I ever... ever fully complained
about a story beat like really like oh my god
have i ever been let down no i think idw can
give me this one where it's like i'm like i wanted
more like they look too cool they look too cool
to just be numbskulls from Null using whatever
tech to dress up as turtles with white masks.
Damn it. Anyway, so they attack Baxter at the
State of the City address. Donnie calls April
and Mona, calls Jenny, calls everybody. He can't
get a hold of anybody. Some dude in a chair he
is. It's not his fault. They're everywhere. Yeah,
they're everywhere. Dudes and chairs, we are
everywhere. That's right. So, Jenny gets lettuce
thrown at her. Oh, boy. And it is a... It's mayhem.
It's mayhem. Boo. What? It was right there. Like,
you know. And I will say, and we're not going
to get too far off on this, because we'll probably
do our own episode on it at some point. I know
my buddy Optimus Solo and my other buddy, the
comic concierge Dan Clark, on their show they
did do a whole Turtles movie marathon month thing
on the Cinema Geeks, and they did cover the new
TMNT Mutant Mayhem movie. I think I saw it. I
don't remember if I saw it or not. All I know
is... It's not for me, and that's okay. I'm glad
that it's there. Yes, the new movie. Oh, man.
The new animated movie. Yep. No, no. That's absolutely...
You've got two boys. You've got two young boys.
That's my point, is that me as a 45 -year -old
who does not have children, it's not for me,
and that's okay. Which is interesting. I could
hear you saying that about the new newish cartoon,
um, rise of the turtles. Same thing. The last
episode of that, there's like a TV movie or something
really good, really, really good. Yeah. And,
but mutant mayhem, there's, uh, there's enough
of those kinds of adult jokes that are hidden
in plain sight that make it fun. But I, I'm not,
I didn't enjoy it. Like I said, I think I saw
it. I don't remember because I can barely remember
yesterday. But, you know, it's one of those things
where because they actually casted teenagers
to do the voices, they actually casted. They
want this to be the next for the next generation.
I am perfectly. There's so much turtle stuff
for me. There's so many other Turtle things.
I don't need to have every new thing be mine.
I'm okay with that in the franchise. The cartoon
that they released, it's kind of part one and
a half of the movies. There's an animated one
that's based on the Turtles from this new new
movie. Okay. And it's maybe 10 episodes long.
That's pretty fun as well. But it's interesting
for me to kind of think, like, would that resonate
for me as well as it did if I didn't have kids?
The animation style, it made me feel like Spider
-Man. It exists in a way that it could not work.
any other way. That movie had to be experienced
like that. It's a spectacle. Getting back to
the comic here, we're seeing that everyone, Jenny
needs backup, Angel is at Harold's lab working
on her suit, and she gets an alarm as some weird
new explosive energy source is basically incoming.
And basically practically destroys her pretty
much. For half a second I thought that was Splinter.
That's not Splinter. But it looks like him a
little bit. They're weird mutants. But in a red
glowing eye in the dog form that character reminds
me of I think it's Verminator X from the Archie
run. I don't know if that's what it's supposed
to be but It definitely gave me that kind of
vibe. Yeah, absolutely. So we got some weird
new evil mutants here who attack Angel, and that's
how we end this one. Oh, man. And around this
era, you're looking at... Sorry, Mike is sharing
a screen, and I'm seeing the next cover. Eastman
and Sophie Campbell have hooked up to do... the
variant covers for the next couple of issues,
I think through one 50, they are amazing. Yeah,
this is good. It's, it's Eastman's pencils and
Sophie inking. Um, and she can just do amazing
things with Eastman's pencils. They, uh, I like
Kevin Eastman's art. It's, it is. what it is,
and it references the old, or kind of callback
to the old series. It does look flat. It's very
kind of graphic and poster -like, but what Sophie
does with his pencils and whoever did the coloring,
I guess, Sophie probably did the coloring, too.
They're awesome. And I broke my rule and went
out of my way to find a lot of the variants and
the regular covers. I think my biggest problem
And again, folks, this is just my own personal
thing. I would love for us to interview Kevin
at one of these days, but my biggest issue with
enjoying his art, and we talked about this with
issue, I think it was issue 100 maybe, because
there was one issue where they went back and
did a whole thing, set of pages where it was
the old style. Yeah, he did a flashback. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. So my whole problem with most of
his covers, outside of a few of them, is that
they are all, like you said, they're all flat,
they're all this, they're all that, and most
of the time he's doing his own colors. It's not
other people doing the colors or things like
that. This, because this is Donnie and... Sari.
Sari. I like this. This looks really, really
good. I almost thought it was Rhonda. If I didn't
see Sophie's name up there, I would have almost
thought it was Rhonda's colors, but no, I like
that. Looks really good. That's actually the
alternate to whatever, 133, probably. And this
is the next one by Fero Pei with the Uthram,
and the Uthram is playing with some action figures
of Donnie and Sari. Oh, that's creepy. Brains
should not have teeth, folks. Just saying. We
got Mona on the radio. Hey, I have a new microphone
arm just like that, sort of, kind of, not really,
but similar, very, very similar. Hey out there,
Mutant Town, Mona Lisa here with a special evening
update, because things are bananas out there
right now. The attack on Mayor Stockman has kicked
off the worst unrest Mutant Town has seen since
the Mutanimals were running things. Oh, wow.
Has it been that long? Man Ray was right. I stand
with the Splinter Clan. Turtles are innocent.
Mankind must unite. I love this one. Cross out
heart. Because that's Raph. But Raph's not around.
But that's cool. I love that. That's very cool.
You've got folks who believe the four white mass
turtles are heroes brave enough to finally stick
it to Stockman. And people who believe it's all
just a tactic orchestrated by the powers that
be to divide us. I love how they... I love this
page. I love how they did this, where you start
with her in her broadcast booth, and then you
go out and you see the people and how she's reporting
over the radio. I love radio broadcasts like
that. I love seeing how, yeah, this is so cool.
So very, very cool. Or Jenny. I had to trash
the soup kitchen. Damn it. Okay. I don't know
if it's because she's got the constable gear
on, but you put a red bandana on her, that's
Raph. Only because of the damn it. Only because
of the damn it. We got the mutants talking here.
Hey, there she is. You don't belong here. No,
I'm trying to keep you guys safe. She runs away
from them. She hides in the alleyway there from
them. I am not cut out for this. Oh, Jay, what
are you doing here? Hiding. Same as you. And...
I remember Jay. I like Jay. I don't like this
guy. He got shifty eyes. Uh -huh, uh -huh, uh
-huh, uh -huh, uh -huh. I already knew. As soon
as, like, Jay, I know. I remember Jay. Jay's
cool. This dude, this dude got, like, before
his eye even glows, his left eye that glows red,
I think. Uh -uh. Hell no. Hell no. Get your shifty
eyes out of here, you. And here we go, folks.
I'm going to try my best, but I don't know if
I can keep it together here. So the turtles who
attack Stockman could simply be other turtles,
since there were other turtle mutants created
by the M -bomb, like Leta and Toca. So it's perfectly
plausible. And the mutant town public knows who
we are and our personal weapons. The fact that
there are four Hamato brothers, that's not a
secret. So someone could considerably imitate
us. Perhaps to frame us. It also seems like it
couldn't possibly be a coincidence that we just
dealt with Dr. Barlow and his surgically altered
mutant hybrids. So as Donnie is basically suiting
up in the old gear, he's telling this all to
Siri, Lita, and... And Carmen. He's very overwhelmed.
Okay, I got a question for you. So this panel
here, before he says he's overwhelmed, where
Carmen says, where she asks him if he's okay.
All right? Now, the way that this is drawn, and
I don't think this is me just zooming in on it,
and I'm not trying to zoom in too far, but if
you were to look at this just like this as a
regular comic book page in your hand, And I don't
know how good or bad your eyesight is, but I'm
legally blind. So I need to zoom in on it. But
if I was looking at this, this page would be,
if I had a physical comic book here, it would
be two inches away from my face. So I would see
the detail. So I'm going to zoom in on this.
Do you think the drawing here of Donatello, like
this, this is his skin, obviously. Yep. I know
his shell is different because it's a metal shell.
I'm not complaining. I'm just asking a question.
Do you think this looks as good or better than
a turtle with a... I've got to see if I can catch
one of the other brothers or I've got to catch
Jennica or somebody from an angle of their shell
facing the camera to see if I can compare it.
But it just... Does this look too pixelated to
you? The artist is using a tone pack, a brush
in whatever digital program, and it looks like
there's two layers of them. There's the light
skin of Donnie, and then there's the darker flesh
tone, but then there's one screen of these light
-colored dots. that make a medium tone, and then
there's a second screen of darker dots to make
a deep shadow. And so it's the same, but it's
the same texture from the shell to the arm. It's
really easy to see the dots on the shadows behind
Carmen, because it's not a lighter color. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. No, no, no, I know. That's everywhere.
And there's no detail. But he's the only one
that has the metal shell. Okay, yes. Technically,
he's the only one that has the metal shell. But
I don't notice this as far as we're zoomed in.
How far are we zoomed in here? I'm zoomed in
110 % on this page. I see this a little bit in
Siri's face here and neck, but I don't see it
on her arm. I don't really see... I see it on
Lita's, like, pants here. I see it on... But,
like, Donnie specifically, like, even zoomed
out, I can see it on him. Like, and I'm legally
blind, and I, like... I zoomed out to 35 % of
the, of the page. So this is only, again, I'm
not complaining. I'm just asking, uh, uh, an
art question is all, do you think it was intentionally
done to show his metal shell overall versus a
turtle that would have an actual regular real
turtle shell? That's the whole point of all of
this. I flipped through the book, and it looks
like even natural shells are shaded the same
way when there's a dark shadow on them. I think
it's just really apparent there, because Donnie's
in shadow, or lit from the front, and we're looking
at his back, so everything got shaded. Again,
not a complaint. It looks like they're all the
same. Even down here, seeing them, it's the same
trick. It's fine. Again, I'm not complaining
about the art choice. I'm not complaining about
the art design. I just was curious to see if
this was because the dude has a metal shell.
If the artist was trying to distinguish, other
than, you know, coloring the damn thing bright
silver and making him look like, making his shell
look like the color of the silver of, oh, what's
the character? Orokosaki's son. The new shredder.
The new... Hiroto? You know who I'm... Yes. Like,
that color silver. I mean, that would be a, oh,
he's got a metal shell. Like, this to me looks
like, oh, it's just a green shell. You couldn't
even tell it was metal unless you hit it. I see
the screw holes, and that's about the only thing
that differentiates. Yeah, I mean, yeah. It's
the same color in most other panels as the rest
of the Turtles. And now, see, you mentioned the
screw holes. Now I'm looking at the screw holes
to see what kind of screws they are. Like, boy,
somebody got a Phillips or a flathead. You're
screwed, Donnie. Nobody uses flathead screws
anymore. What monster put that show on? It was
Harold. That's right. Harold the monster. All
right. So Donnie's getting ready to go out there.
And so they say their goodbyes. They're locking
up the fortress behind them because somebody's
going to get in. Yep, somebody always gets in.
He puts Ciri in the chair in charge of all the
comms and the stuff and the whatever. You get
Carmen, Lita, and Pepperoni there as well. And
he goes out and he does him some investigating,
and we go back to Venus. I do love the way that
this is shot. I do think this is cool. The telepathic
head thing between Venus and Donatello. She does
say that she wishes she could help him, but things
are difficult at the moment, so there's that.
Venus, I was just thinking about you. I know,
Bludgeon and I sensed something. Bludgeon, where
are you, Venus? Please, don't say you're a foot.
No, I'm not. Liar. You liar. Liar, liar, Venus
on fire. I mean, it is closer to the sun, so
it could be on fire. You never know. And Donatello
says, well, okay, but you say you wished you
could help me, so why can't you? I just can't.
All right, forget it. I don't need you. He says
that after they disconnect their telepathic whatever.
Telepathic, telepathetic, whatever. We cut back
to Jenny and the mutants, and Jenny goes to the
apartment complex where Sheena is, and she says
to Jay and the evil fox mutant thing, wait here,
I'll be right back. She yells for Sheena, uh
-oh, that cop is here. I'm not a cop. Oh, fine.
Everybody out! Everybody out. Hey, hey, leave
her alone. I can't stay locked in here and ignore
what's going on out there. And it's this hungry,
hungry hippo -looking dude attacking Sheena.
Sorry. Hey, it's... No. I've got... I'm mixing
up my comfort... Oh, have you heard what Hasbro's
doing? This is a side note, folks. I've heard
a lot of things about them doing Toy Fair this
weekend. This week, well, by the time people
will hear this. By the time they record it, they'll
know everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This came
out at the end of last year. It's part of their
new play -to -win strategy. This pro's going
to be licensing out some Transformers stuff to
Playmates. Huh. And I'm like, wait, what? Well,
didn't they do that before for the Rescue Bots
lines? Wasn't that a Playmates? I think, but
I don't remember. I don't have all the correct
information in front of me to tell you factually
stuff. Let's get back to the turtles here. So
Donnie runs in, rescues Angel, bandages her up,
gets her out of there, sees a dismembered arm.
What is this? But he sees that it's... It's a
Terminator arm. I'm sorry. I had to. It's my
time. Dude, it's... I feel it. God, I have so
many references running around in my head. I've
had the... Have you seen the... The old Bugs
Bunny Frankenstein cartoon with Gossamer where
he's chasing it? Okay, this is a long time ago.
There's one of the Bugs Bunny cartoons where...
They're running around, running around, running
around, and there's this female robotic wind
-up rabbit that keeps interrupting them. And
at one point or another, Bugs is like, she's
wound up, and she's coming up to him, and she
plants a kiss on Bugs' cheek, and he goes, so
it's mechanical, so what? First thing I thought
of. When I see robot parts, it's either Terminator
or Bugs Bunny. Wait a second. What is this? He
picks up the arm. I'm sure he recognizes that
that's Uhtram tech. Yeah. Yeah, I know this tech.
Uhtrams, they have to be after Ciri. Yep, he
directly says it. The Triceraton girl? Like,
they know everything. And he gets out, or she
gives him the grab generator. Uh, and he goes,
uh, he goes U -Traum hunting. Jenny is, uh, basically,
you know, kicking the walrus in the chest and
get out and... Okay, baby. Are you okay, babe?
How about you come stay at the lair for a bit?
We got room. I... She looks back at her broken
-up stuff. Okay. They're back! And it's Jenny
and Jay and Sheena and the traitor. Now see this
corner here? So as we see this bottom panel,
folks, that you're not seeing as we're looking
through talking about this comic, the evil mutant
people and then our good guy guys. To the right
of that is the stairs where the mailboxes are.
This corner here? I swear that's not, okay, that's
just a broken piece of wall, but the way it's
shadowed, I'm like, wouldn't it be nice if a
mouser just jumped right out of, but it's just
a broken piece of wall. I know it's not an actual
place where something could jump out of, but
like, yeah. So, we get that. We get, bug old
bandit, I thought we were cool now. Nope, still
haven't forgotten when you broke my bill. It's
nothing personal, Jennica. This just isn't your
turf anymore. That's Constable Jennica. It's
a police brutality. That's right. Well, you know,
pawn, brack, balk. Sorry I'm late, Jenny. Oh,
sorry there. Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha. Ha,
ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh, who's the babe? Ha, ha, ha,
ha, ha. Uh -huh. Uh -huh. Yep. Pretty much. Oh,
God. Class is paid. 101. 101. Your instructor
is Casey Jones. Better late than never, right?
I like my classic Casey. With Cricket Bat. Uh
-huh. You know, you gotta understand Crumpet.
You gotta know Crumpet to understand Cricket.
Oh, God. Yeah, no, classic Casey is awesome.
Oh, Casey, that was awesome. Thought you might
not show up. We're kind of short -staffed, huh?
I hope he's back in the... I know Casey's going
through stuff, but from the last trade to this,
I hope we're back. If he needs whatever mental
help that he needs, fine, great, get help, Casey,
but this sure did seem like, like you said, classic
Casey. He says things are getting pretty hairy
outside the wall, too. Right now, let's just
focus on getting you guys to the bunker, where
it'll be safe at least until we can figure this
all out. Meanwhile, the stone -eyed fox is still
hanging out. That traitor. Yep. He's still hanging
out. Donnie gets home and yells at Siri. He doesn't
yell at her, but he yells her name. Oh, you're
safe. I'm doing my job. Good work, Siri. Thanks.
I was worried. Colonel Shrell has ordered my
death. I understand. I must take extra care to
stay hidden. Exactly. The Ultrons will find you
eventually, Ciri, but I'm going to protect you.
So we get that. Donnie's back on Cobbs, and Jennica's
like, Where you been, Donnie? He goes, Sorry
about that, Jen. Had to check on Angel, but she's
okay. Thanks for helping out, Casey. No problem,
man. Just doing my part. I love seeing all these
characters work together. This is so good. I
looked at the list of all of those editors at
the beginning and was a little critical of how
many editors it takes to do a book. But then,
you know, at this point in the book, you're realizing,
oh, man, they're juggling like three different
titles. And all of these characters and the timing
needs to work out and they need to come back
at the right time into the story. So, yeah, that's
why it takes an army to fight a war in a comic
book. Absolutely. Takes an army, absolutely.
Hey, at least we got the general back in charge.
That's what I'm saying. If Bobby were doing the
book now, he'd have done it all by himself. Wait
a minute here. So Donnie's back at the wheel.
Donnie says, Lita, can you help me move some
things in here from my lab? I need to do some
experiments. I don't want to leave the cubs again.
Lita says, okay. Yeah, that's carbon. Okay. You
gonna experiment with this thing? Careful. That's
an anti -grav gauntlet. I'm not sure what I'm
gonna do with it yet. We have Donatello about
to do some ninjutsu with his little gem here.
So he's going to practice that. We go back to
Jenica, Sheena, and all of them, and this is
where we see the fox dude with the Terminator
eye. Nope, that's not going to end well. Another
beautiful... Was that... Yep, Eastman and...
Eastman and Sophie. Yep. Gorgeous! Yeah, so good.
So good. And this is the next one. This is Farrow
Pay with... Bonnie and Angel on this cover. Oh,
this reminds me of issue... What? I went and
looked at the original issue when I saw this
cover, and I'm like, wait, didn't they already
do this? Issue 34, right? Man, if you know that
off the top of your head, that's impressive,
but take your word for it. We're going to create
an edit point right here, folks, and I'm going
to go look because I want to make sure. Well,
I mean, you say, oh, yeah, that's issue 34. And
I'm looking at the issue I just put face down
on the stack over there that I just finished
reading with you, and I don't remember what's
on the cover of that. We join our turtles in
progress, as was previously stated. Apparently,
I have. Really great memory when it comes to
comic book covers, folks. So, issue 135 of TMNT
Reborn. This is volume 7, Isolation. This is
issue 135 that we're starting here. On the cover
is Johnny and Angel. And it looks like something
is targeting them. And before that impromptu
break, I had said to you, Mr. Joe Reed, sir,
I'm like, wait, this reminds me of a cover they
did way back when. And literally, when I say
way back when, folks, I'm talking like issue
34. Issue 34 was May of 2014. That was 11 years
ago. And it's not even that you remembered the
cover, because I remembered two covers that were
similar, but you knew the issue number. That's
the crazy part. Yeah. So, issue 34, this was
right at the... It was right at the start of...
No, it was the tail end. It was the next arc.
It was right after Northampton. It was right
after Northampton. It was the second issue of
the next new arc. This was the arc leading up
to Shredder and Krang meeting for the first time
in issue 37 in August of 2014. And the only reason
why I know that information off the top of my
head is number one. you know, 37 in a row, but
I'm actually looking at the webpage where it
says August of 2014 and wherever it has all the
covers on it. But it's one of those things where
that was obviously a landmark thing of shredder
and crank meeting. But you had mentioned, you
had mentioned issue number six of, of the thing
where it was the destroy, which was, I believe
was this mousers or metal head. It has, it's
so early. It has to be mousers. Okay. I do not
remember that four back. I mean, I remember that
four back. I'd have to check, but another red
cover with turtles on the cover, and this is...
But yeah, definitely both of those covers kind
of got a little callback here. Gave us a flashback,
at least. So, looking at... Go ahead. Nope, that
was it. Okay. That was that. So just briefly,
since I'm on the page anyway, looking at the
cool thing about Comicvine is I can find covers
for almost anything that I need to find. And
if you actually click on said cover, it will
take you to the page for that. set issue and
any variant covers and sometimes there are usually
IDW does three variant covers in general but
sometimes with certain issues they'll do more
but they also give you all the other information
as far as like the creative team and the synopsis
or the description etc etc etc and for issue
6 it was a new year and the TMNT and Master Splinter
look to the future even as they struggle to come
to grips with Past mysteries. Meanwhile, General
Krang grows increasingly impatient with Baxter
Stockman, who is prepared to unleash a horrific
new weapon. Yeah, it was the Mousers. The only
thing they have not done to Baxter Stockman in
all these years later, folks, is they have not
turned him into a fly yet. They've done everything
else. So yeah, it was the Mousers. Absolutely.
It was the Mousers. Alrighty then, though. We
have, as Joe said, the next chapter in the isolation
trade paperback, Volume 7 of TMNT Reborn. We
start with the inventor. We start with Mr. Donatello.
Who's been carrying this book on his back. No
wonder his shell is sore. Yeah. All the other
turtles are off in their own series for a little
bit here. Well, OK, I wouldn't say he was carrying
the entire book on his back. I mean, there is
the guy in the chair. He totally helped everybody.
That's true. But come on now. And so, Donnie,
it looks like he's trying to hook up one of the
little crystals that they made on their vision
quest with Orokosaki to. Herald's anti -gravity
gauntlet. And you know, if I were him, you're
given this relic of mystical energy and he's
over here taking shavings off of it and picking
it apart. I'd be a little afraid to do that.
But it's not. He knows what he's doing. I don't
even know if he knows what he's doing here, but
it's Donatello. Wise men say the only difference
between science and screwing around is writing
down what you learn. So Donnie's definitely doing
science. Yes. You said it better than I was going
to say. And I was going to say, it's Donnie,
man. Yes, he is. He has a new appreciation for
the mysticism of it all. But he's Donatello.
He does machines like, you know. And that is
a this is a really interesting thing. Later in
the book, they they drop some stuff that kind
of made me go, oh, wait a minute. But Donnie
is of the mind that magic is just. sufficiently
advanced technology that you can't explain it
anymore because we don't have the words for it.
So he's determined that if he does enough experimenting
and if he pokes and prods at it, that eventually
he'll understand it and then it'll become science.
Yeah, it becomes science and he can have words
for it, like the evil remote. It's mystical energy.
And later in the book, they do an interesting
job of explaining it in a scientific way, which
I thought was fun. We'll get there. And Donnie
is... I would say all four of the Turtle Brothers
are like this, but you look at the stern look
on his face. He's giving Ciri a stern look in
this panel, but he's not upset at her. It's a
determined stern look. I won't let anything happen
to you, Regenta Ciri. I won't let anything happen
to anyone. Think about... God damn it. why is
it every time we do one of these episodes of
this podcast for this specific series, I constantly
break down, especially with Donnie. You think
about what he's been through throughout this
whole damn series, but you know, like the determination
of this frigging turtle man, this is why not
just this specific version of him, but In all
versions, Donnie will always be my, to quote
Jack Palance from Batman 89, my number one guy.
Always why Donnie is my number one, Mikey's my
number two, and then Raph and Leo kind of take,
you know, three. Leo, honestly, most of the time
will end up in fourth place because Leo, I don't
know. Nobody likes the oldest brother bossing
everybody around, right? Yeah, I don't. Leo is
my favorite, and I think it's just because back
in the day he had Blue and he was the sword guy.
But as I've gotten older, the leader, the stoic
character, and kind of, in other words, the boring,
predictable character has become my favorite
in just about every one of the possible. worlds
where there's archetypes in charge of a series.
The boring leader, the Boy Scout, is mine. Superman,
hard to do anything with because he's always
moral and in the right. He doesn't struggle with
anything like the other superheroes do. And Leo
is stoic. And I mean, Leo has his moments. And
they've done a real good job making a Boy Scout
interesting. Oh, yeah, no, absolutely. No, and,
like, but, you know, take the original things
that David Wise did with those four brothers.
David Wise has been gone a number of years now,
folks. I believe he passed in 2010. David Wise
was one of the original writers on the original
cartoon. And, look, no disrespect to Mr. Eastman
and Mr. Laird who created the characters, but...
Leonardo leads. Donatello does machines. Raph
is rude, but whatever. Michelangelo is a party
dude. You take those basis of those four examples
of characteristics and then you expand on them.
And IDW, as always in every episode, you guys
are... probably sick of hearing us say it, but
we're going to say it every friggin' time. Whoops,
I forgot to turn my thing off here. It's important
to note David Wise's contribution. When you get
around someday to reading the Mirage series,
they are not unique characters for a while. They
don't start to differentiate themselves until,
I don't know, 10 issues, 12 issues into the book,
really. And I think and then David Wise like
took the seeds that were beginning to get laid
down in those early issues and then turn them
into the archetypes, which I mean, kids need
archetypes when you're watching something like
that. Um, and, and yeah, that's really good.
It's man. I have underestimated his contribution,
um, which now I need to rethink that. And yep.
Yep. Absolutely. Oh, oops. I am. you have the
books in front of you, right? Yep. Okay. Okay.
I was going to say, I forgot to do screen share
this time around, but yeah, so we, so Sheena
and Lita show up and along with Jay and trader
and comments, like, I guess we're locked down
now. So you guys got just here, just here, just
in time. Nobody in or out. Bad guys could get
in. Lita says. Is this everyone who's down here?
Nah, there's Donatello and Siri, too, but they're
busy in Donnie's lab. Don't forget Pepperoni
and Clunk. I guess Clunk is the cat. I don't...
Hey, name dropped him. Yeah, I know, but, like,
I don't remember... I don't... I don't know.
Like, I remember... I know I'm confusing this
with the 2012 series because that's where this
reference I'm going to make comes from. I thought
Clunk was the Ice Cream Kitty, but the Ice Cream
Kitty is from the 2012 series, I think. Yeah,
and I don't know that they ever called Ice Cream
Kitty Clunk. I don't remember. No, I don't think
so. I think the first time Clunk ever shows up
is in Northampton. It was when they were up there.
It was a barn cat. Yeah, I guess. I don't know.
It's been around since the Mirage days. Yeah,
yeah. I just don't remember where, like I said,
I think it was Northampton, but again, I could
completely... Look, folks, I can remember issue
numbers and covers from 11 years ago sometimes
on a good day. On a bad day, I can't remember
what issue or what story arc the cat came from.
The cat could have come from outer space or something.
I don't know. He didn't, but I'm pretty sure
of that. But again, I could be wrong. So we get
a couple of pages of a spy dude here trying to
stalk Siri and trying to choke her out. Luckily,
Carmen catches up to them. Oh, God. This guy.
He goes into the bathroom to whatever. We get
back to Jennica fighting. Who's she fighting
here? Kick and punch or whatever their names
are. Oh, she actually says what their names are.
Laurel, Felix, stay down. A cat? You know, it
would have been funnier if it was Laurel, Hardy,
stay down. Yes, folks, I'm old. I make old jokes.
Sorry. And then, backup arrives. Hey, Jenny,
where you been? Around. Oh, man, the two of them
back in action together? That's awesome. I actually
have that action figure. Nice. Recently. Very
cool, very cool. Very awesome, very awesome.
But then, she says, Jennica says, hey, listen,
about the Shredder stuff. I don't care. I don't
want to talk about it. Nope, she don't want to
talk about it. Okay, let's handle the ass clowns
again. Absolutely. We get back to Donnie. He
is working feverishly. What the... And this is
where he figures out the mysticism of a pen to
the paper, or the pencil to the paper with the
mysticism and the writing and the whatever. And
as I was reading this, this whole... I want to
make sure I get this page number right. When
we get back to his lab, in the trade, folks,
in Volume 7, Isolation, Reborn, Volume 7, Isolation,
page 56. You start on page 56, and I'm just going
to go really quickly here. Ninja pizza? Pizza
that vanished quickly without trace. 56 to 59.
These three pages minus the little vignette with
Alopex and Jenica where Donnie calls them. Because
he calls them and says, Jenny, come in. Get to
City Hall immediately. On my way. What's up?
The doppelgangers are there right now. And they
have Sally. alopex and jennica in an amazing
piece of running art and jumping art are on their
way uh to to city hall but then we get the next
page where donnie is still tinkering this is
the page where i'm just like okay they've turned
him into tony stark As soon as I read, as soon
as I saw this page, I didn't even need to like,
I didn't even zoom in on it. I didn't even read
what he, I didn't even read the words. As soon
as I saw the bottom right -hand corner of the
page, I didn't even like, I saw the giant green
text and saw the giant green shiny stuff. And
I saw his hands out pushing outward towards the
sky. And I'm like, They just gave Donatello a
Tony Stark moment of when Tony created vibranium.
I'm like, you magnificent bastards. This is amazing.
I recognized that posture and that gesture. taking
out the atoms and moving them aside and get rid
of this bat now and then expand it. And he's
like claps and scoots back in his chair with
his hands up. So, and Donnie's been doing this.
He's kind of creating these Dr. Strange like
runes with the pencil, this crystal joined with
the pencil, which is a throwback to an early
Mirage issue where, uh, Jack Kirby. I don't think
they call him Jack Kirby, but it's Jack Kirby
with a magic pencil, does some drawing. And then
that magic pencil comes back way near the end
of the series, I think in the Tales of the Turtles
thing. So the crystal pencil, crystal -powered
pencil that brings drawings to life is a piece
of turtle lore. But he's using it to draw the
runes that he hasn't been able to figure out,
and now he can see how all of it is... is happening,
and it looks like he can control space and time
with his magic runes and energy that he can't
explain yet. No Infinity Gauntlet needed, Tony.
Stones. What for we need your stones for? We
get back to Jenica and Alopex. They are in the
city hall, the jail area, where these imposters
are. Another step towards mutant victory. Behind
the cage! Quiet, you. Join us, mutant town. Man
Ray will lead the mutantimals to power. You're
not fooling any. Ninja Star. This whole thing
is fake. Bunch of posers. And she stomps right
on his hand. Oh, God. Definitely not my Raph,
says Alopex. No. What the hell is this all about?
Fall back, fall back. And this is where I said,
I think it was earlier in this episode, I had
my rant about these characters. Mm -hmm. And
this is where I went searching, and I actually
pulled it up on the fandom, turtlepedia .fandom
.com. These are the Gang of Four from IDW. And
yes, folks, I know I'm reading directly from
a Wikipedia article. Oh my god, it's the end
of the friggin' world, but you guys know how
we do things around here. In the IDW continuity,
there is a gang of four mercenaries who work
for the Null Group as elite soldiers enhanced
with cybernetic implants. They are human -born
mutants who can use machines to regulate the
mutagen levels in their blood. In their blood?
Wow. In their bodies. Yeah. allowing them to
shift between human and mutant form at will.
Their call signs are Dead Aim, Fist, Lynch, and
Waster, with Colonel Fist as commander. I don't
think we've seen them in this issue. I don't
think we've seen them, how to say, they don't
get unmasked so far that I have seen. No, so
far they have appeared. Yeah, so far they have
appeared in Armageddon Game 1, TMNT 133, Armageddon
Game 2, The Alliance, number one? Mm -hmm. And
Armageddon Game 4, and then Free Comic Book Day
2022. So why do we see them here if they don't...
If this is 135... Huh. Interesting. Either way,
I don't know. But their debut as the Null Turtles
was in the Free Conflict Day 2022 issue that
we discussed. Like I said earlier, I wish there
was... Just like Donatello in TMNT 2, I wish
there was more to them than just being a bunch
of mercenaries from Null. That's my only complaint
about them. I just wish it was a better storyline
than just four mercenaries dressed up as turtles.
instilled some political strife with the Mutant
Town. Giving Baxter a reason to just shut down
and come down on Mutant Town militaristically.
Yeah. And Null is facilitating that. Yep. And
as the four disguised mercenaries, as the four
white turtles, quote -unquote, go deeper into
the headquarters here, We come up with Raph and
Hub. Where do you think you're going? Oh, God.
Okay, I know what they're called. The Weasels.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know. No, I know,
I know. But, like, where do you think you're
going? I know it's Raph and it's Hub, and they're
with, and my first thought was, babies. You turn
them into babies. First Shredder, now Hob. Alopex?
Al, we... And Alopex isn't having any of it.
She's done. I am so done with all of this. But
first of all, Raph is back in red. No more Constable
Raph. And I like how Jenny, I don't know if I
mentioned this before or when Jenny took over
as Constable, I like how she didn't change her
bandana. She just put on the quote -unquote police
gear or the SWAT gear or whatever you want to
call it. She didn't have to change. I understand
why Raph did, and that's fine. Yeah, no. Alopex
isn't having any of this, so Alopex runs off.
We get back to the TV room with Carmen and Jay
and the traitor. We get Siri. We get Sheena.
We get Pepperoni and Lita. They're all playing
video games, and Pepperoni... walks off and series
like pepperoni come back pepperoni and she goes
oh the the the the traitor dude actually does
try to get siri here and uh he grabs her by the
throat and pepperoni leaps up and attacks him
She basically bites him right in the neck, practically.
And he bites her back. And... Oh, man. Pepperoni.
Oh, no! I called one of the weasels pepperoni,
but no, that's... Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah, no,
no, no. Oh, no. Oh, boy. It's a good thing Raph
isn't there, because... That guy would have been...
I know turtles are not supposed to kill, but
that guy would have been really freaking hurt.
So, Lena, go get Donnie. I'll go get Donnie.
Okay, how the hell do you do that? You did that
in one of the other records, and I'm like, what
girl joined the podcast? I never... I practiced
every day from when my voice actually sounded
like that. And, you know, if you keep that muscle,
it never goes away. I freak people out. Yeah.
You freaked me out in the entity in one of the
other episodes. I'm like, wait a minute. What
the hell? I invited my wife to the podcast. She
loves turtles. I'm sure. I'm sure she does. She
sounds just like this, too. This is my wife's
voice. I mean, yes, anyway. You're lying, son
of a bitch. So, yeah, we get the wolf cat, or
wolf whatever he is, and he's about ready to
kill Ciri, and yeah. Oh, man, and then when they
pan to Donnie, he's responding to a problem that
angels having and like, Oh, we got a problem
here. Like I got a problem here too. I got a
problem here. Yeah. Yep. Okay. Hold on. Angel.
Oh, uncle Donnie. Uh, and, uh, yeah. You're uncle
Donnie there. Hey. Get away from my friends.
And he fires the thing. And then it doesn't exactly
go very well because it doesn't work. And Donnie
gets hit real bad. Stupid Colin. Why didn't it
work? What did I do wrong? Oh, geez, Sensei.
Are you okay? So they go old school. Yeah. Donnie
handles it quite effectively. Literally. Donnie,
you knew that was a robot before you did that
to that guy, right? Yeah. You knew that was a
robot, right? Yeah. Well, I mean, he can see
the glowing red stuff coming out of his mouth,
so I'm pretty sure. I'm going to hope he did.
Yeah, I knew it was a robot. Yeah. Yeah. Okay,
so. I understand why this page is the way this
page is, but I really wanted a bigger splash
page because I wanted him to insert the stick
and pole vault over this guy. Basically, stick
in mouth, pole vault over him. That is what I
envisioned when he started doing this. I'm like,
Aw, crap, this page isn't big enough. So, yeah,
but, um, what the hell was that, Sensei? Long
story, everyone okay? What is he, an evil cyborg?
Not exactly, Jay. Don't get so close. It's okay.
I think he's going to self -destruct. No, he's
worse. Yes, he's going to terminate. That would
be a new Trump. That would end my day. That would
be a terrible time. for this issue to end and
if I were reading that in the car. Yeah. If you
were reading that in the car alone in front of
the comic shop, no. Lock your doors. I was an
U -Tron the whole time. What happened? But you
get to turn the page. That's right. That's right.
I do love the alternate cover. The alternate
cover for this has got Jennica. And Alopex, absolutely
love that. That looks so badass. So good. And
then 136. 136, right? Yeah, 136. It's got Casey
and Jenny, and it looks like they are fighting
off a swarm of splinters. And the only reason
why I say a swarm of splinters is because the...
Oh, it's a pipe. Okay, at first, before I zoomed
in on it, I was like, that looks like a rat hand
and a walking stick. It's a pipe. But yeah, so
we start where we left off last month. You are
mine. And the U -tron, or the, yeah, the U -tron.
See, I'm sitting here trying to judge myself.
Wait, did I use the right terminology? Oh, shit.
Crang. Oh, the U -tron. It's trying to do the,
well, I mean, both moments in the previous book
and this one here are really channeling Alien,
like the Uhtram bursts out of this thing's chest
or back, and then it jumps at Donnie and it tries
to face hug him as they're all wrestling it away
from him. Like, ugh, creepy. Yeah. But Jenica,
not being a character created by Nickelodeon,
is allowed to save the day with her fist claws.
sticks it to the wall and it becomes a smear
of blood. Yes. Smear. Oh God. All as I can. And
I know this is, uh, uh, get off of him. And you're
right. That is very, very whatever, but all as
I can think of it, obviously folks, we know the
boy scout doesn't kill, but all as I can think
of is that moment. And I think it's either twilight.
Part 2 of Justice League. Or maybe it was Justice
League or was it Superman? There's a scene. No,
it's Justice League because it's George Newberg
as voicing Superman. It's not Tim Daly. Where
he goes, No, Darkseid. The only way you're going
to be able to get off this rock is to go through
me. And I'm not going to stop until you're a
greasy smear on my fist. That's exact. I heard
your, even though this is Jenica's moment, just
seeing this with, Oh man, just so cool. So amazingly
cool. And she just flips him, splats him against
the wall. Crap. It's still alive. Not for long
for the herd. And Siri basically stomps out the
Utram. Krang lookalike brain thing. Everyone...
What was that noise? That was... Yeah. Jenny,
you got here just in time. Everybody okay? Yeah,
thanks. Jenny, that Uhtram almost hit me. He
was trying to force me to swallow it and become
its host. So nasty. Angel said there were at
least five of these guys, which reminds me, I
need to contact her and... Wait, Jenny, did you
relock the bunker hatch when you came in? Uh
-oh. Uh -oh. Uh -oh. We're in trouble. Oh, boy.
Damn it. Sheena, get everyone to the sewer access
now, and don't let anyone in. We can't let these
guys reach the sewer access door, no matter what.
And it's an all -out brawl. Oh, God, they all
have red mouths. So they're all robots. Yeah,
they're all those weird robots. So they're all
robots. Yeah, all Ultron robots, which means
everybody dies. Because robots... Means we can
use our weapons, guys. That's right. That's right.
Use the weapons. Use the weapons. So in the next
panel here, you have Siri saying, I know I must
be kept safe. So that panel there, there's the
art page right under it where it's Donnie and
Jennica showing against the Terminator looking
here. The guy in the middle, I'm like, wow, that
almost looks like Old Hob mixed with T2. It's
not, but it looks kind of a little bit. So they'll
still keep coming after us. We need to cut them
off at the source or whatever. I don't want to
use your... Yeah, just get shoved down the stairs,
decimated, shot at. Like, okay, it's going to
get to a matter of survival. What is it, last
stand kind of feeling I'm getting? Very much
last stand. Why don't we just use your gauntlet
thingy? Nope, not working yet. Who knows? You
gotta unlock your power, Donnie. Come on, Donnie,
you got this. And I don't remember these rules
about, like, they can only use their magic when
nobody's looking. I don't even know anything
about that. Yep. I don't remember Shredder mentioning
that, but I know that there are more issues in
between that we're missing. Maybe that comes
up, but the gauntlet was supposed to be Donnie
being able to bypass that so he could use it
anytime. But we'll see what happens. Yeah, man,
they're barricading themselves into a corner.
Pretty much. So scary. And, uh, uh, Siri says
that she will fight. Donnie does the Retsu time
and space and time. He gets the thing activated.
And, uh, yeah. Stop, stop. He stops time. All
right. He stops everybody. Literally. He stops
everybody besides him and, uh, Carmen. So he
and Carmen, we get to the future. Carmen, next
Saturday night, we're going back to the future.
Oh, God. We're going to find out why Carmen is
so important someday. So one of these days, yeah.
And she says in the future, if I remember right,
this guy makes the big monster thing show up.
I don't even want to know what the big monster
thing is. Like, I know we see it. We're looking
at it right now, but I don't really want to...
It's a Langolier! Shh! Oh, boy. And we get back
to Burnout Island. Why didn't we know that these
turtles had some kind of quantum energy abilities?
If we need something to sound scientific and
we don't know what it is, just call it quantum.
Exactly. So this is an interesting page here
to me as the Utroms are talking about unidentified
objects. Incoming bogey, sir. Approaching at
high rate of speed. ETA 26 minutes. Identification?
Negative, sir. Could it be the regenta and those
turtles launching preemptive strike? I don't
believe so, sir. It's one object with both organic
and inorganic components. It's him. He knows.
Leave Montoro with me. We'll meet our visitor
with full force. Uh -huh. Yep. Metalhead Krang.
I didn't see that coming. I didn't see that coming
either, but as I alluded to earlier, going back
to the past of issue 37 of Shredder and Krang's
first meeting, it would not be an end run to
the finale of this era of the book without another
quote -unquote Shredder and Krang meeting again.
Even though technically Shirell in this is not
technically Shredder, obviously. But, yeah. Metalhead
Krang shows up, and Shirell, Shirell, where are
you? Right here, General Krang. And, yeah, so
it's Shirell in his Triceraton body. versus Metalhead,
Krang. What is the meaning of this? Triceratops
host? Disgusting. Look at yourselves. You seem
jealous that you've never thought of it. And
literally... Exactly. And literally, I just looked
at the old issue cover of 37. So, issue 37 of
the series... It has Shredder on the left and
Krang in his original body. What's his name?
Yeah, it's General Krang. On the right with the
Technodrome in the background. And this very
image has Krang on the left and Shredder on the
right. That's amazing. They're both in body suits.
That's hilarious. That's amazing. Shut your mouth,
Colonel. Now call off your forces. There is much
bigger plan at play, and I'm in charge here.
Not anymore, Krang. Stand down, soldiers. That's
an order. They only take their orders from me.
You always did put your self -destructive pride
before the greater picture, Shirell, just like
with my father. I, General Krang, am your commanding
officer. God. Really? Are you, though? They are
like... God, these brains and their stuff. Say
what you will about Quaid and your own father,
but... He was right about you. You have never
been a true leader of the Uhtram people, and
you never will be. And the fight continues. God,
that was not where I was expecting this to go.
Nope. That's a nice little wrench for Shirell.
Yeah. Slow him down from bothering our boys.
Absolutely. Very, very well done. Absolutely.
So we get to the next issue. We start with Jennica
and Siri. And let's see here. Jennica, the hell
is this? A portal? Was this supposed to happen?
What did you do, Donnie? What didn't Donnie do?
That's the better question, Jenica. What didn't
Donnie do? Oh, crap, Don. What the hell happened?
I traveled to the future and saw myself, and
Donnie, look at me. I think you just froze time.
Look at Siri and Carmen, and you gotta give the
magic back, man. Uh, evoke, revoke. So, revoke.
And time starts. Boom! What was that? Oh, shoot.
Alright. You alright over there? Yep. That was
me responding to, like, another thing dropping
out of the sky for the turtles to have to deal
with. First it was the regenta, then Krang dropped
out of the sky for the utroms, and now... Whatever
this is. Whatever this is. Did my unrevoked magic
go haywire? Let's investigate first. Come on.
Oh, that was an actual explosion. Those are Ultram
ships. I know. Who sent them? It's not a question.
She phrased that in the form of a question. She's
like, I know! Who sent them? It's Shrell! Oh
my god, he's coming for me! And the army, or
not the army, that's not the army, that's the
EPF, isn't it? I think it's the EPF. Yeah, they're
outside, inside or outside the wall. Yep, yep,
yep. But now they're fighting the Kring. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying, they're fighting the
neutrals. I thought they were fighting the mutants
from the top. I don't know. No, no, no. They're
fighting... I don't know. So the mutants are...
The mutants are in the crossfire. That's what
it is. And they're fighting the Krang. See? Did
it again. Donnie, where are you? No! Raph? Oh,
well, well. Look who it is. Three out of five
turtles back. Getting easier to carry the book.
Stop it! You're okay! Everyone's safe. Yeah,
it's good to see you again. Fine, I don't even
get a hug. Oh, Raph, you goober. I love when
you're mushy. Yeah, well, don't get used to it.
Don't tell anybody. Yeah, don't tell anybody
I was a goober. Uh, Siri, no, no, you need to
get back. No, Shirelle wants me. This is all
because of me. I think she's right, Donnie. We
can't just let her surrender herself to them.
The EPF can take care of this. Shirelle, here
I am. Face me, coward. Oh, boy. That's, uh, that's
some fighting words there, little lady. There
you are, Reginta. Oh, Triceratown Shrill, what
have you done? Oh, yeah, that's, like, nasty.
Oh, yeah, very. Taking the dead bodies and reanimating
them. Oh, well, it's even worse. Yeah, well,
look at that. Yeah, we know what happens in a
minute. Oh, boy. How dare you use the bodies
of my people, these warriors, and poor Dr. Zura.
They were noble creatures. I thought you would
enjoy seeing some familiar faces. Now hand yourself
over. Or I'll raz this city to the ground. Ciri,
you don't have to do this. No, I will not surrender,
Shirelle. So be it, then. Protect Ciri with everything
you've got it, guys. Take this. She gives him
a sign, right? He gives, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He
gives, he says, take the, Oh, okay. Yeah. See,
no, I wasn't. Oh, I thought he was talking to.
He's okay. Raph is talking to, to Siri. I thought
he was talking to Shirelle. He's like, take this.
No, he's take this. He's talking to Siri. That's
that's all. I, I miss some, I misinterpreted
that. You will die this night, Shirell. Laser
blast and ooh, Donnie and his metal shell. It's
a good thing that thing can take a licking and
keep on ticking. Look here, folks. I can tell
you that I'm old without actually telling you
that I'm old by putting a Timex reference into
a podcast. Incredible. Hi, Shirelle. You killed
my mother. Now I will kill you. And a lot of
these panels, folks, are just the battle. I mean,
it's a good battle. The art. Oh, it's so good.
So good. The colors, the drawings, the lines
on the suits, man. Look on the page where...
Where he reveals that his suit is actually her
mother's face. It's her mother's body. The shadow
on his stomach where he actually... That's some
good design. That's some really good art design
for that character. That is hilariously good.
That is so awesome. This just makes Ciri even
angrier, obviously. Using the face of her mother.
Yeah, why anger her like that? You're just gonna
power her up. Donatello, is it? It seems you
have beaten me, but I have a proposal. I'll spare
you and your friends if you explain your arcane
technology to me. No way. Die. Oh, man. And then
the Fantastic Four show up with Mikey. Waiting
two days to make that joke. Because seriously,
like, look at these people. I understand it's
the Nova Group or the Nova Corps or whatever
it's supposed to be, but like... I can't remember
when they showed up before. I can't either. They
look familiar, like they were Archie characters
at some point, but I don't remember when we've
read from them. Yeah, I don't remember seeing
these people in this series at all. And... It's
probably just because it's been going for 10
years. 15. I can't look. I lost count. Yeah,
longer. And I don't remember. Yeah, but, like,
seriously, like... I was really hoping Mikey
would show up with the Neutrinos, but I understand
why you have to show up with a... A Michael Chiklis
suited up Ben Grimm the Thing looking character.
Like, literally. I don't know what other powers
the two females and the other male have, but
literally a giant guy in the blue and the yellow.
It looks like the Thing. So the team's all here.
Some weird aliens, I guess. This has been a long
time coming, Shirell. Kill them all. So we have
an even bigger battle as this progresses. And
again, between the backgrounds, the foregrounds,
the colors, the art, the drawings, the characterizations,
all of it looks so amazing. They just do such
a great, great job. And isn't even there. He
must have been piloting remotely from some. That's
why he was in shadow the whole time. Oh, that's
right. Yep, yep, yep. He's back at the base somewhere
or whatever. And so the only reason we're here
is to finally take care of Shirell and Krang.
You're welcome to come with us to find Shirell.
It seems like we want vengeance against him as
much as you do. This is the Nova Corps people
talking to Ciri. So that's essentially what's
going to happen is she's going to go with them
to find Shirell. which is very, very cool, very,
very interesting. Siri gives Donatello a very
big hug. She talks to Carmen. She talks to Pepperoni.
Pepperoni's awesome. She knows who matters. Yes,
that's right. Pepperoni and Lita. Goodbye, mighty
Pepperoni. Oh, God. We need a Lita and Pepperoni
one -shot. That's what we need. Goodbye, everyone.
I'll see you all again after I've reaped vengeance
and freed my people. Good luck, Siri. Bye, Nova
Posse. That's what they're called in this, Nova
Posse. I kept calling them Nova Corps. I think
that's a Marvel thing. Oh, yeah, that's very
Marvel, Nova Corps. Yep, yep. And on her way
to Ireland, Siri takes her mom's metal replacement
horn and makes it her own. Yup. And, yeah, that's
the end of this issue. We get an awesome variant
cover with Donnie. Oh, man, I'm going to screw
this up. Donnie and Casey, I see. And I bet that's
probably Cherell in the top, Siri. I can't see
who's behind Casey in this picture. Casey, I
think that's the rest of the U -Troms. And then
at the bottom is probably Cherelle. The top is,
I don't know, maybe General Craig? I don't know.
It's probably Cherelle because he was there attacking
Ciri. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was Kevin and
Sophie. So Kevin Eastman, Sophie Campbell. Very
cool, very cool. A little bit. Up, up, up. And
now we have the Mystic Brother and Mystic Donatello.
I love this cover. I love the Eastman and Selfie
one from two issues ago where he's holding his
gauntlet up kind of next to his face in it. The
way that it's drawn, it looks like the weird
gauntlet from the Hellboy movie, the first one.
Yep. All the clear crystal, clear vials on it,
but it's got the green magic. Yeah. I love those
two working together. Yep. I think what I love,
okay, so we talk, we've 12 years, folks. We over,
well, we're still in the 12th year, 12th. Well,
the month of the 12th year, the whatever. You
know what I'm trying to say. We're still in March.
We're still in March here. So it's the actual
month of the 12th year of the podcast. And we
always ask the question in the Origins episodes
about what form of comic books do you like the
best print digital print or digital vice versa
yada yada yada uh whatever whatever whatever
and while i will always love and have a respect
for print i ain't got no room for print so i
got room for trades some trades and stuff but
even not even those not many like i would get
the idw collection volumes for this but i don't
even have turtle trades Just because I got a
one -bedroom apartment. And unfortunately, half
of that's taken up by Funko Pops. But that is
a whole other story for a whole other podcast.
Point is, what I love about digital is that I
can sit here and I can look at what issue number
is this? Because I have the trade. It doesn't
tell me the issue number. This is 138. Okay,
so we got two issues left in this trade. So this
is issue 138. Volume 7, TMNT Reborn, Volume 7,
Isolation. This is Donatello with his mysticism
and everything else. And this is a different...
Ooh. Oh. Donatello kind of looking like Batman
because his belt has, like, utility... Like,
when did that start happening? He's got utility
pouches on his belt. I wonder. Hold on. I have
the... Santa Luca Donatello action figure here.
He's full of pouches. Okay, no. It's just the
first time I've noticed it kind of thing. It
depends on who's drawing it. Yeah, that's fine.
I like they differentiate the turtles more often.
Absolutely, 100%. Yeah, no worries. That's not
a big deal. But again... this is done by by pharaoh
pay and i love pharaoh's art here because number
one it's donnie and number two it's all purple
and the reason why i love the digital versus
the print is because in the digital i think the
print you would only have you would not have
the purple border you would just have the actual
image of the image you would not have where it
has in the in the here let me just Oh man, do
I? Here, hold on. I'm showing you right now.
Give me two seconds. So the purple border there,
I'm assuming generally as a regular comic book
issue, you only have the actual, you don't have
a purple border around it. You just have the
actual image itself, right? Oh, I see. I wonder
with those, the angled border across the top
and bottom. If they're cropping any of that up.
Oh, yeah. They cropped that image on yours. That's
fine. I don't have a problem with the cropped
image. You just like the purple? Yeah, that's
the point. I understand why they cropped the
image, and I can look at, and I will look at
the actual. You said this was issue what? This
was issue 138? 138. Oh, it's not that bad. Oh,
wait. Oh, no, that's just his pants. Okay. It's
not that bad. So we looked at several of the
individual issues for the books, folks, and when
they do the backups for the trades, they crop
them a little bit. It's not cropped as bad as
I thought it was. Yeah, it's not terrible. I
mean, more of it is covered up by the title and
the... publisher mark in the corner yeah like
this this to me is more of an art piece and you
actually actively have who the artist is like
it's like obviously you have the i'll zoom in
here obviously you have you have his his signature
on the image itself with the year in the art
itself but you all like i would love to get this
printed i would love to have this as a frame
this would be cool this is why i love The trade
paperbacks and how IDW does. This is why I love
the Purple Waters and stuff like that. And any
of them. I mean, we'll see later. But like this
one, same thing. Like you've got not so hot on
the green, on the aquamarine green here. And
people can't see this, but you can. But Eastman
and Sophie with all the characters here on this,
same thing. these to me scream, especially specifically
this one, it's like, ooh, print me out, frame
me, put me on your wall. Did I ever see Farrow
Pay at a convention? Don't buy that print. Hopefully
he has it. So we start 138 in Mutant Town, the
wall. I know you don't like Man Ray, but we need
his help. Man Ray put us in a cage. I know. Man
Ray bad, right, Dada? Right, Dana? Uh, yeah,
bad. But... Ray, how you doing over there? Almost
done here. Here, too, ahead of schedule. Once
I'm done here, the entire perimeter will be set.
Nice work. What are they doing? I know what they're
doing. But do you know what they're doing? Oh,
man. I was not expecting. Because of where the
speech balloons are coming from and the radio
communication, I can't tell if Man Ray is trying
to blow the wall apart and Hobbes trying to stop
him or if they're working together. Hey, Ray,
how you doing? It looks like they're working
together. They're working together. Yep. Which
is a little different than what it seems like
later, but I'll get reminded. We'll work that
out. Yeah. As we turn the next page, somewhere
off -camera, Leonardo's back. Yes! And so now
we're back to full strength. They're all back
from their miniseries and other collections,
and it's the big battle. Oh, big battle. Oh,
and even Shredder's back there. Yep, yep, yep.
That's crazy seeing Saki fight with them. It's
good, but it's crazy. So crazy. So yeah, we got
the big battle between everybody. Pages like
this must be a pain in the neck to draw. All
of these characters, different scales, perspective.
Yeah, absolutely. Good shot, Hector. Like, just
everything. It must be a pain to draw, but once
you... And color. Absolutely. Rondo, we are not
worthy. We are not worthy. You know, but once
you get the work done and you look at it and
you're like, damn, that's amazing. What I am
slightly more interested in is what is going
on back here. What is all this? I noticed this.
EPF people. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, so folks,
even though you can't see it, as we're looking
at page, whatever page, this is page 117 of volume
7, Isolation. Behind some of the inserted panels
is the EPF. Yeah, I said that right. The EPF
peoples. So yeah, that's that. It's the EPA and
Walter Peck. What a prick that Peck guy was.
I hated him. Can we just have, can we just, I
know the Statue of Liberty was supposed to be
a symbol of positivity, but can we just have
her step on him, please? Because that guy, no.
I mean, the judge got it with the Scolari brothers,
but like Walter Peck, yeah, he needs to go. So
we got the goodbyes with sort of, kind of, not
really, we almost get the goodbyes with Siri
and the Nova Posse, but... Uh, we get, um, some
resistance here with some Utroms. Be the prisoners
and surrender and we'll go easy on you. Never!
Okay. Zebulon, do it. Pleasure. Push. Boom. Oh,
boy. And, ew. So, baby Utroms. I think my disgust
with this page or this part of this page is just
floating around in green goop. Just floating
around in ooze. I think that's supposed to be
mutagen. And she just reaches in and grabs one.
I know. Don't do that. They're cute, though,
aren't they? These babies are innocents. Uh -huh.
Yeah, sure they are. Sure they are. Yep. Well,
they are. The U -Troms aren't an evil race in
this series. That's true. They're only evil because
Franks are back, and Terrell is absolutely evil.
Yep. Yep, yep, yep. Okay. There are good U -Troms
out there. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. The turtles need
an Utram baby. Raise it right. No. We've never
seen that angle, I guess is all I'm saying. That's
something that they haven't ever had to do. The
Utram infants are the future. He changed his
suit again? Ah. Changes more suits. Changes more
suits than Batman. Seriously. Oh, this is the
actual suit that he's got. The other one was
just... Okay. Still late, but yeah. So... Alright,
everyone. You're safe. We're here. And they are
freeing the Utrom. And they are fighting for
the Utrom. And your vengeance isn't going so
well. What's the thing Triceratops always say
for the pack? No. For the herd. And... I didn't
see that coming, and neither did Jor -El. Nope.
Ciri takes her mother's nose... Horn. The metal
horn. Metal horn. And stabs Jor -El with it.
Right in the eye. Look at that. Oh, boy. Oh,
that's one less villain. Who's going to be the
villain now? It's over. And she gets his little
comlink thing. This is Ciri Triceraton Regenta.
Now, and you will be shown mercy. Your leader
is dead. Leave now, or face the wrath of the
Triceratons. And we cut back to New York. Hey,
they're leaving. That's one down. Yeah, and then
the EPF aren't going to let the Krang walk out
of New York. And so they're still irritated.
And the Turtles step up. You know, they don't
make a big deal about it, but the Turtles step
up to defend the retreating U -Troms and take
out the F -People. Yeah, man. Wait, I thought
he was a ghost. Huh? Wait, wait a minute. What?
Who's saying that? I'm looking. No, no, no. The
page where Annika says, well, that's one down.
Bottom middle of the page. I thought he was a
ghost. Oh, where she says, that's it, Mikey.
The character in the background. The character's
not saying anything. I'm saying... I thought
he was... Yeah, Shredder. No, no. He's been...
He's like in and out of the astral plane. Okay.
But he's... He's recorporalized. Okay, got it,
got it. What's the mysterious cow doing here?
Oh, he's just one of the allies. They're bringing
everybody back. I don't know if you guys... Your
listeners have... necessarily seen this, but
Cuddly the Cowlick is a giant cow head. It speaks.
It has opinions. And I think in canon here, it
is the same Cuddly the Cowlick from the Archie
series. He's trans -dimensional and can go...
He's met many different groups of turtles. And
he will lick, slurp up people, passengers, and
take them across time and space. And he's there
fighting. And Jenica needs to perform some of
her kichikuri, but nobody can look. And so he
shows up. I hear him sounding like goofy in my
imagination. I can help with that. And he licks
her up so she can do her hand gestures. And she
is going to show everyone the truth. Yeah, she's
showing everybody the truth in their head. And
they're all like, whoa, okay, I get it now. And
Mikey's like, yes. I don't know what's happening,
but it's working. And, yeah. So, Ray, come in.
You see the weasels anywhere? No, I thought they
were with you. It's time to go home now. Can't
leave the weasels behind. I don't know why the
weasels thought they had to protect Hob from
Ray. This is why I thought, are they working
together or are they not working together? I
think Hob and Ray are working together. But I
think they think, the weasels think, that Ray
has some weird agenda. Right, Mushroom? Man Ray,
bad. Hey, Ray, why did you hit your trigger already?
Uh -oh. Hey, you guys feel that? Yeah, I think
that's Hob. Rumble, rumble, rumble, rumble, rumble.
Everyone move! Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Mushroom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Damn
it! What was that, Raph? You said Hob was up
to something. Yeah, he did it. I can't believe
it. Boom! Was he supposed to take down the wall?
I thought he was. Yep, he pulled it off. I thought
he was supposed to take it down. You did it,
man. You okay? What happened? Hey, where's the
weasels? They're gone. They were in the blast.
I looked. I couldn't find them. Ever since day
one, Hob has always been a tragic character.
Yeah. Ring, ring, ring, ring. Hey, April. Donnie,
I'm sending you what I found out about Null.
You need to see it. Uh -oh. More Null shit. Okay,
everyone, we still have to do this. Donnie, Mikey,
you two take Cuddly to Burnout Island and meet
up with the Regenta and the Nova Posse. Oh, boy.
Jenny, there's a ton of folks here in Mutant
Town who still need help. Can you handle it?
On it. And I'll be going with you guys to take
care of Null. We will defeat her for certain.
Where are you going? There is something else
that needs my attention. I've taught you all
that I can. Have you? Have you, though? But we'll
meet again soon. Uh -oh. Oh, no. Remember me?
I'm here to help, okay? Aww. Alopex finds the
weasels! Yay! At least they're not dead. Oh,
that's that variant cover. That's right. Oh,
boy. Here we go. Final issue, folks. On 39, Mystic
Sister. Isolation. But technically also Mystic
Sister because technically that's, yeah. So we
start in. It's time to end this. What the hell?
What the hell is this, Saki? Where did you bring
us? And why? We are hidden from... Go ahead.
What? I think that the last issue we read was
the end of that storyline. And this, I feel like,
happens before they leave their Northampton training.
Okay. Yep, yep. Probably. So it's a bit of a
jump, and it's weird, but, you know, here we
go. Yeah, it's a bit of a jump, but we knew that
going in. And we knew that when we set up the
whole behind -the -scenes thing on the podcast
about doing the Armageddon game in between Volume
8 and Volume 9. Yep. It's going to be a little
confusing, but don't stop, readers. We'll make
it make sense. We always do. So we are hidden
from the Rat King while in this thin place, and
it is here you must learn one final skill before
you face him. but I won't be the one to teach
it to you. You won't? Who, pray tell? Kitsune?
Explain yourself, Saki. Oh, they pissed. Uh -huh.
What I like about this is that it's kind of back
to form. It's classic Turtles. It's classic Turtles
with Saki. Even classic with Kitsune. As much
as I love the Mutant Town stuff, as much as I
love all the new characters that we've gotten
introduced to over all these years, this final
issue for Isolation is the perfect title for
this trade because everybody in all of these
issues from 1 .33 to 1 .39 have been isolated
in one point or another in this trade paperback.
And this is the perfect send -off for the end
of this part of the story. So it works. She's
going to teach them the final lesson. The secret
tenth cut of the Fujikiri Tong. There's a tenth
cut? Tell us everything, Kitsune. Imagine where
the turtles are in this moment. They've got the
shredder who great cost has been paid to separate
the evil part of him from who he is now and how
he's had to reject kitsune but then knows that
they have to get this knowledge from her and
can you trust her coming back and being this
close to saki even though we know she's motivated
by the defeat of her brother the rat king um
like you you it's an icky situation yeah and
they have to it's very they have to suck it up
and accept what she's got to say. Yep, yep. Absolutely,
absolutely. So yeah, that's what's going on in
this final issue of The Isolation Trade. And
what a story. Just what a story. Absolutely love
it. Tong is the unification, interconnection,
and as a whole, the space -time and gravity in
the quantum universe. I'm telling you, you know
much of this already. Everything everyone has,
not only spatial, but also psychic gravity, metaphysical
gravity of essence, or what some of us call radiant
gravity. These forces extend beyond the materialistic
universe and into thought, dreams, elemental
planes, even the realm of the dead. Incredible.
This ties into Q &A, right? I've been learning
about that. Donnie, you've been learning about
this mysticism already? From where? Donnie's
been busy. It's a long story. I'll tell you after
all of this is over. So, yeah, absolutely. And
again, what I'm loving about this issue is it's
basically, look, we all love action. Most of
us love action. But the cool thing about an issue
like this is it's all story. This page here that
we're looking at, this next page where Donnie's
at the top, it's combined with three panels of
the turtles and it's two panels of mysticism
and the explanation that Kitsune is giving them.
And she's also telling them what's good. So again,
it's, it's story based and it just, it just works.
I, I appreciate whenever the turtles get a break
from, from stuff. And this is the, the stuff
where the mysticism becomes more closely tied
to science. And there's more like, all right,
I'm on board. I get it now. I love, I love hearing
how. mysticism gets explained by various universes.
The world building is fun. Oh, so the spirit
is like gravity. It's a principle of matter.
Okay, then Donnie gets it. It's the energy. That's
how Donnie knows all this stuff already, because
science became mysticism. Or the mysticism got
understood enough for him that it became... this.
So like, yeah, alright, good. And this is the
thing that we've been waiting for for two trades.
This page right here. Despite all that, the connections
among yourselves are not as strong as the ones
forged with others. Where do I fit into all this?
I'm not a Hamato. Jenica, you're one of the many
who has been pulled into the Hamato's orbit.
and like many others, forever changed. You are
the strongest example of what I'm explaining.
Our entire life and physical being were altered
to align with the Hamatos. Mystically speaking,
gravitationally speaking, you are the same as
the Hamatos. So she finally gets her answer.
I guess you guys are stuck with me for real,
huh? I hope so, Mikey says. That's a great line.
That's such a great thing for Mikey to say. I
guess you guys are stuck with me, which is kind
of a negative, self -deprecating way to say that.
And then Mikey is so quick to flip that around
to make it not sting. Absolutely. He didn't say,
I guess so. Nope, I hope so. Good. Absolutely.
When do we get the tenth cut part, though? And
how's this gravity thing gonna beat Rat King?
Maybe it'll let us, like, throw him into a black
hole or something. Black holes have gravity,
right? They do, Mikey, yeah, but and now all
this brings me to the tong. The tenth cut. When
you are together, your power, your radiant gravity,
increases tenfold. The tenth cut will allow you
to make use of that so you can defeat my brother,
whose gravitational force dwarfs us all. And
let's begin. God, look at this. Look at this.
Still mesmerized by how many bat pockets Donnie
has on his belt nowadays. I think we're ready.
We can do this, you guys. We can do this, you
guys, right? And man, just looking at this, the
sea witch on the ground with her hands in the
air, the old can opener standing there watching
them all, and everybody just ready to go. God,
it's so good. Man, the art on this book. Look
at that light. That's right. They all... Oh,
wow. Look at that. I didn't realize that. They're
all in yellow. Obviously, it's shadow, but it's
all... Oh, yep. Wow. That's very cool. Love that.
Together. Interconnection. Unification. As a
whole. Such good pages. And then we have this.
As with ordinary gravity, radiant gravity extends
throughout time, throughout the past, and into
the future. Radiant force connects your past,
present, and future. They all exist simultaneously.
With the powers enacted by the tenth cut, you
will tap into space -time itself. With all of
this training they've been doing, the spiritual
stuff, I'm interested in seeing how they do ultimately,
eventually. handle the Rat King. Yeah, me too.
Absolutely. Hard as the past, however painful
it may be, witness your future, however overwhelming
it may be. Your past shapes you and everybody.
These pages. Yes, I know. I'm sorry. I know.
These pages are amazing. Every turtle gets their
moment to cut through. Absolutely. I noticed
this reading through. Have you cheated and read
the reboot stuff? Not the reboot, the issue one?
Yeah, but I don't remember it, remember? I read
issue one and two, but I don't remember. I read
them when they originally came out. So each turtle
is at the top of the page, and then these colored
rips of fabric that match their bandanas go down,
and we see generally two traumatic things and
then their future. And their future stuff down
here in the bottom. This... Okay, it's issue
139. I don't know when this dude drew these pages.
These are from the new book. Oh, really? Their
future is coming out of post -150. No way! That's
amazing. That somehow they knew that... he was
going to be taking over the book and he had it
outlined and they knew what to draw in these
panels. Okay. So you remember when we had the,
the reveal of, I think it's the reveal of Donnie
with the shell reveal that Donnie was alive and
you had the turtles react and then you had, I
think it was Raph or it was probably all of them.
No freaking way. There's an image somewhere on
Facebook. I'll have to find it later after we're
done recording. But there is an image of the
four of them in the old style back before issue
100 where all four of them, and I think it's
Raph saying, maybe it's all of them. I think
it is. I think it's Leo, Mikey, and Raph. No.
Freaking way. Uh -huh. Don't you tell me this?
Oh, freaking way. Oh, God. Which is why it's
so great. Even though they renumbered it, even
though they went back to number one. Look, we
knew that that was going to happen at some point.
We just didn't know when. At least the license
didn't leave IDW. At least we still have certain
people working on it that we've known all this
time. Again, as I've mentioned, looking forward
to reading how Jason Aaron writes the characters.
Very much so. But the fact that I didn't even
really realize that the future stuff here in
this is actually what's going to happen in the
new series? Uh -huh. That just makes this book
even better! Even more so than it already could
be. Like, he's James Bond in the new book? What
the hell? That's funny. Nice, nice, nice. Donnie?
What's Donnie doing? Grim Reaper Donnie? Wait
a minute. I can't tell exactly, and I haven't
read the Donatello issue yet, but the turtle
ghosty things in the back. look like they could
be the last Ronin turtles. Oh, okay. But, but
I, I haven't seen Donnie related to the last
Ronin turtles. And so there's something else
going on possibly with those. Cause yeah, I mean,
he's dead. Donnie's would be dead by the time
the last Ronin turtles were born. The new, the
new update. That's so cool. Yeah. But I love
this. So we have all four of them, and then we
have this intertwined bandana. Basically, it's...
If you turn... Here, let me see if I can do this.
Where is that thing? Here we go. Either way,
it doesn't matter. Look at it. It's Infinity.
Hello? Are you talking? Yeah. I'm looking at
your screen share. Yeah. It's infinity. I rotated
the page. See? Oh! So you rotate it sideways.
It's infinity. Yeah. At first I thought, oh,
it's just a crazy eight to get to the panel.
It's just a way to get an eight in there. Get
them all together, whatever. And then I'm like,
wait. Like, literally, I turned my, like, I have
my head leaned over to the left. Like, my head's
leaned up against the cart window. And I'm like,
wait a minute. I can just rotate the image. Like,
yeah, it's infinity. As the turtles are forever.
Ding, ding, ding, ding. It is a little concerning
that the top of that is the morning over splinter.
And then the bottom one is all of them going,
all five of them going their separate ways. Which
I'm always so scared of when the turtles do that.
But I'm hoping. Well, actually, I know what happens
post -150, so that image makes sense and it's
not the end. Because, like you said, the turtles
are infinite. I think you're right. I think it's
going to be fine. Absolutely. And Leo says, it's
not fated. We can still decide for ourselves.
Yeah. Even with a casualty loop, we can still
change the future. Or we can try, at least. Mikey
says, yeah, but I feel like maybe the Armageddon
game is our last big hurrah, you know? I just
feel like maybe we won't bounce back from this
one. Not like we used to. It gets harder and
harder every time. All the stuff that keeps happening
to us and people we care about. Maybe we shouldn't
hold things together. What? Why would you say
that, Raph? All that stuff Kitsune's saying about
us pulling people into our orbit, and whether
they want to be there or not, and whatever. Maybe
if we go our separate ways, it'll separate, it'll
spare everyone else all the problems we keep
causing. And this causes them to think, and then
this breaks up the armor, and then, you know.
One light goes out, they all go out. Sorry. It's
a 12 days of Christmas thing. You are ready.
Rat King awaits you now. You must... Ah, here's
where you've been hiding, sister. No. Oh. Get
out. He's so terrible. Very sneaky of you, even
with your little martial art lessons. I want
you all to know that you still don't stand a
chance you never did. To be continued. And then
we get the alternate covers. Very, very cool
alternate covers. And then the TMNT Reborn Volume
7 Isolation alternate cover. And then the game
escalates. So, yeah, folks, that is, as they
say, that. Interesting to note. Yes. I'm sorry.
My last page of that book is the Armageddon game
checklist. Oh, nice. And by this point, everything
had come out except for the final issue of Armageddon
games. turtles 139 what we just read is right
before the last issue and so that's kind of interesting
i didn't catch that the last time they all had
red checks in it oh except for the bottom one
oh okay so now i i see where all of these were
tying in so technically You could do Armageddon
game next and then do Volume 8? Probably. I'm
going to let you tell me, because you've got
the trades, and so I'm going to read whatever's
in your trade. I don't mess that up. Let's see
here. Volume 8 is... More behind -the -scenes
stuff, folks. Volume 8 is... Demon 2 Reborn Volume
8. Damage done! All right. This collects... Originally
published as TMNT Annual 2023 and TMNT Issues
140 to 144. So if the final issue of Armageddon
Game came out between 139, which is the final
issue of Isolation, and 140, and there's nothing
about Armageddon Game past 140, it should be
good, I think. I think I'll have to check. I'll
have to double check, which I will do in an ad
break. So we'll be right back right after this.
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A match made in a galaxy near you. or literally
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Download the show on iTunes or at simplisticreviews
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won't. All right, folks, we are back here inside
the pull bag. Episode 577. Finally figured out
what the hell we're doing. Yay. They make it
so hard. I just had to make sure it wasn't going
to continue past a certain issue number. And
we've adjusted accordingly. So, next episode,
we will be covering all of the Armageddon game,
which I have just found out is in two trade paperbacks.
The Armageddon game and the... What does it say
here? The Armageddon game and the... Who say?
The Armageddon game, The Alliance. So they, so
far, have only got the two trades. Obviously,
you have single issues, but we're not doing that.
Oh, wait. Damn it. Opening moves, Alliance. Opening
moves, Alliance, and the regular series. Okay,
well, you're going to get three trades, one podcast.
No cups. We'll make it fast. We promise. But
then again, it's usually an hour, hour and a
half sometimes, depending on, I mean, well, that
Last Ronin episode was like three hours, but
that was the Last Ronin, which we got to get
back to doing that too, because I got to look
and see when Last Ronin 2 is fully traded. The
re -evolution, as you mentioned before we went
to break, something about the new the new Last
Ronin Turtles, and I was like, wait, what? And
then I remembered, oh, right, that's... Ben Bishop.
Ah, gosh, what a lucky creator. Yeah, good old
Ben. Good old Ben Bishop. Gotta love that guy.
Alright, folks, that's gonna do it for us. Anything
you would like to say, sir, before I run through
the closing? Uh, go buy the Mirage Ears. Volume
two. The volume two reprint. That's all I got.
All right. This was great. Absolutely. Always
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So that's very awesome. Thank you. Very awesome.
Absolutely, absolutely. Join us next time. As
I mentioned, we will be discussing the Armageddon
game, the entirety of the Armageddon game, from
opening moves to last moves to middle moves to
right moves, left moves. Two minutes for high
-sticking. Crossover with Naruto. Oh, God. Don't
even get me. Oh, God. There's so many freaking
crossovers that we haven't covered. Oh, it's
so terrible. Don't even get me started. You know,
they still haven't done one yet that they're
supposed to do. I don't know if they can do it.
But it would be a perfect time for them to do
it, considering, you know, earlier this month,
he was born again. Oh, yes. I want my Daredevil.
Something you've been wanting a long time. Oh,
God. Yeah, man. You're going to have a hard time
finding me for that podcast because I'm going
to be running up and down the street naked shouting.
No, you're not. It finally happened! Look, did
you read this trade? I'm going to call the cops.
Shouldn't you be in your basement podcasting
with your other friend? No, the world has to
know they finally did it. Matt Murdock met the
turtles. That's right. I mean, if Batman can
meet the turtles, come on, Marvel. Come on, Disney.
Get your shit together. That might be the holdup
now. I mean, with the DC, it's a little easier
to get a hold of them, but if they want to cross
over with Marvel properties, they have to go
to the mouse. I mean, IDW did do... Yeah, they
published some Spider -Man kids comics. Well,
they published some Spider -Man kid comics, but
they also published some Disney adventure comics,
too. So they did have, I don't know what... I
don't know. I don't work for IDW. I don't know.
All right, that's it. I need Bobby's email. Give
me Bobby's email. I got to get that guy on the
phone. I will cut you about that off air. But
anyway, next time, as I mentioned, the Armageddon
game, the whole of the Armageddon game. What
the hell was that? I don't know. Well, that was
a crime, you cursed scrubbing pukes. And this
is the penalty. Two minutes for slashing, two
minutes for hooking, and lest I forget my personal
favorite, two minutes for a high stick. How about
a five -minute game misconduct for roughing,
pal? Hey, bogey, now who died and made you referee?
You did your job, now get out of here and let
me do mine. These JV lowlifes need to be taught
a lesson. Not like that, they don't. Not from
you. You know the lines, folks. For now, I am
TFG and Mike with... Joe Reed. As always, make
your greatest game in the comics, and we will
catch you next time. That's not creepy at all.
Thank you, Stephen Bloom. That's right. That's
right, that's right, that's right. All right,
so... Oh, it's over here. I had to move things
around. I'm like, what did I do with my drink?
I know I put my drink. It's over here on my left
now. I'm used to it over here being on my right
because I'm used to the microphone being on the
left. I'm like, where the fuck did my drink go?
Now the microphone's on the right. I don't want
to have to reach down and around the microphone.
So I'm like, wait a minute. Where'd it go? Who
stole my drink? Give me my drink back. I've got
so much stuff and action figures all over my
desk and in this room. I'm so afraid during recording
that I'm going to do something that makes this
awful, awful racket. I'll explain it when it
happens. Someday. Sorry, guys. Just playing with
my toys. Oh, we know. We've heard it before.
I've left that in before. You can't see the...
I'll shoot you a picture in Messenger here. you
cannot see the drink it's over to the left of
where where the where the mouse is there but
that's the new setup where the microphone is
now the microphone used to be on the left of
where the monitor is so now that it's on the
right and i'm like damn it i can't reach for
my drink anymore because it's not there because
it's would be under the microphone and no all
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