WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.379 Hey, this is Tom Waltz, IDW's Teenage Mutant 00:00:02.379 --> 00:00:04.500 Ninja Turtles writer, and you are listening to 00:00:04.500 --> 00:00:07.419 the GeekCast Radio Network. Hi, this is Bobby 00:00:07.419 --> 00:00:10.060 Curnow, Chief Turtle Editor at IDW Publishing, 00:00:10.179 --> 00:00:11.919 and you are going to have a shell of a good time 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:16.059 inside the Pull Bag. You've just jumped inside 00:00:16.059 --> 00:00:19.660 the Pull Bag. Join TFG1 Mike and the rest of 00:00:19.660 --> 00:00:22.500 the comic crew here at the GCRN as they make 00:00:22.500 --> 00:00:25.920 their great escape into comics. From DC, Marvel, 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:29.160 and Image to IDW, Boom Studios, and Xenoscope. 00:00:29.640 --> 00:00:32.420 We have everything right here. We cover things 00:00:32.420 --> 00:00:36.159 like Transformers, He -Man, Super Heroes, TMNT, 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:39.460 and Radiant Black. Yeah, we have all that and 00:00:39.460 --> 00:00:42.920 so much more. It's all inside the pull bag here 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:46.619 on the Geekcast Radio Network. So, without further 00:00:46.619 --> 00:00:49.479 ado, it's time to talk about the comics we're 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:52.840 reading right now. Here inside the pull bag. 00:00:53.100 --> 00:01:04.590 It's a Kodak moment. Welcome to The Pull Bag. 00:01:04.750 --> 00:01:09.890 This is episode 577. I'm, of course, Dear Joe 00:01:09.890 --> 00:01:12.250 and Mike. Joining me once again, as always, here 00:01:12.250 --> 00:01:17.290 in Mutant March 2025 is my good buddy, my turtle 00:01:17.290 --> 00:01:20.370 brother, Mr. Joe Reed, with him in his Hawaiian 00:01:20.370 --> 00:01:27.500 shirt. Hello, shirt. Hi. Hi. I can't talk anymore. 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:33.719 That opening salvo of 575's introduction for 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:37.299 12 years of the podcast basically killed me with 00:01:37.299 --> 00:01:41.040 being able to actually talk coherently. Well, 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:43.260 I can understand you. I think we're alright. 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:50.900 Let's hope. And I'm not making fun of anyone. 00:01:51.530 --> 00:01:54.590 I'm having actual problems using my tongue these 00:01:54.590 --> 00:01:58.170 days and actually having language issues with 00:01:58.170 --> 00:02:00.890 actually being able to discuss things on podcasts. 00:02:01.129 --> 00:02:06.109 But I have a huge problem. This is interesting. 00:02:06.390 --> 00:02:10.930 I have a huge fucking problem with this comic 00:02:10.930 --> 00:02:16.330 book series now. I was hoping for something more. 00:02:16.870 --> 00:02:25.560 What happened? Oh, my God. Fucking no. Uh -huh. 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:33.939 Hate no. Ugh. So when we did the free comic book 00:02:33.939 --> 00:02:36.159 day, was it the free comic book day issue or 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:40.259 the annual? Wherever we first saw the white turtles. 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:45.439 Yep. And I'm sure people listening to this episode 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:47.199 that haven't listened to the other episodes are 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:50.120 probably going to need context. There are an 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:54.729 alternate version. set of four ninja turtles 00:02:54.729 --> 00:02:57.949 that wear white masks so when we say white turtles 00:02:57.949 --> 00:03:00.849 folks we're not trying to be reverse racism or 00:03:00.849 --> 00:03:03.469 anything like that we don't do any kind of political 00:03:03.469 --> 00:03:07.449 bullshit on this podcast whatsoever and we're 00:03:07.449 --> 00:03:10.289 not talking about lita who is a white yeah yeah 00:03:10.289 --> 00:03:13.270 exactly lita is a white turtle quite literally 00:03:13.270 --> 00:03:17.090 these are white masked turtles that are not wearing 00:03:17.090 --> 00:03:20.689 masks over their headbands. I can't talk either, 00:03:20.810 --> 00:03:23.789 Mike. It's great. But they're wearing face masks, 00:03:23.990 --> 00:03:30.370 more like a stereotypical ninja thing. Yes. Dude, 00:03:32.449 --> 00:03:36.150 it broke my fucking heart. I was hoping for something. 00:03:36.370 --> 00:03:38.689 Because the whole point of the white turtles 00:03:38.689 --> 00:03:41.669 is that, at least I thought the whole point of 00:03:41.669 --> 00:03:44.060 them was that... The weapons are mixed up. The 00:03:44.060 --> 00:03:48.020 characters are mixed up. Everything is different. 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:57.699 Like, how you've got alternate dimension type 00:03:57.699 --> 00:04:02.620 thing. I thought, I literally thought they were 00:04:02.620 --> 00:04:06.819 Turtles Forever -ing this shit. I thought they 00:04:06.819 --> 00:04:12.340 were going to pull, create something new. and 00:04:12.340 --> 00:04:16.180 do something where this was another dimension 00:04:16.180 --> 00:04:19.740 version of the... So for anyone who doesn't know, 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:21.819 listening to the sound of my voice, what Turtles 00:04:21.819 --> 00:04:30.180 Forever is, was a cartoon film back in 07. Whenever 00:04:30.180 --> 00:04:32.399 Turtles Forever came out, I forget when it came 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.000 out, and I'm not looking it up right now. But 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:37.420 the point of that film is the 2003 version of 00:04:37.420 --> 00:04:40.610 the Turtles at the time. Got together with the 00:04:40.610 --> 00:04:44.329 87 Turtles. They then went back in time and got 00:04:44.329 --> 00:04:47.389 together with the first ever animated version 00:04:47.389 --> 00:04:52.470 of the original Mirage Turtles to stop Shredder 00:04:52.470 --> 00:04:57.629 and Krang and the Utroms and all of that from 00:04:57.629 --> 00:05:00.529 destroying the universe. Turtles were. I thought 00:05:00.529 --> 00:05:03.509 it was another version of the Turtles. I didn't 00:05:03.509 --> 00:05:07.819 realize it was something as stupid as Null. People 00:05:07.819 --> 00:05:16.399 dressed... Now, I just sat in this chair that 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.139 I'm sitting in and read all of those books, and 00:05:18.139 --> 00:05:23.220 I don't recall that information being in my stack 00:05:23.220 --> 00:05:29.180 of books. But I knew with the mouse guy that 00:05:29.180 --> 00:05:31.560 was doing the experiments on all the mutants, 00:05:31.699 --> 00:05:35.100 he had the turtle parts, and he had that phone 00:05:35.100 --> 00:05:38.360 call with somebody. And it was kind of apparent 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:42.240 that he was trying to make turtle clones for 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:45.519 that person. And I'm pretty sure that was Null. 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.579 Yes, it was Null. You have the Volume 7 trade. 00:05:50.379 --> 00:05:53.519 I have... Yeah, and I read the issues that you 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:55.180 told me. There's something in that trade that's 00:05:55.180 --> 00:05:59.300 not from these issues. Really? Yeah, Null did 00:05:59.300 --> 00:06:03.740 not appear in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 books. Huh. 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:08.920 Interesting. But I know the story you're talking 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:10.800 about. I think I read it in one of the other 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:18.000 books. Okay. So maybe it was just me doing research 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:21.519 on the characters because I went to Turtlepedia. 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:25.800 Huh? Because I wanted to know. I wanted to find 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:29.339 out. I wanted to figure out after we had seen 00:06:29.339 --> 00:06:34.079 them in that free comic book day thing. So maybe 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:36.879 that's where I got the information from. To find 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:40.899 out that the Gang of Four, I think is what it 00:06:40.899 --> 00:06:45.800 was called. Or whatever. I don't know. But that's 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:49.600 my rant, folks. I was highly disappointed. But 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:55.600 it's just... It's just a... It's just somebody 00:06:55.600 --> 00:07:00.680 in disguise. Like, it's not... I really... Okay, 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.579 so the way that I... I actually wrote out this 00:07:03.579 --> 00:07:06.160 whole thing. I don't have it in front of me, 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:07.759 and I'm not going to read it, obviously, but 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.360 basically, when I found all this out after doing 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:14.660 all this research about the white turtles, I 00:07:14.660 --> 00:07:19.500 felt like Donatello in Secret of the Ooze. Yeah. 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:25.100 Where it's like, man... Where he finds out that 00:07:25.100 --> 00:07:28.220 they're just an accident. Yeah! I thought there 00:07:28.220 --> 00:07:33.660 was more. I thought there was, you know, a reason. 00:07:33.860 --> 00:07:37.699 Like, yeah. I just always thought there'd be 00:07:37.699 --> 00:07:44.399 more to it. To the ooze. To, you know, us. I 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.759 know. I always thought there'd be something. 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:53.019 That... I thought we'd find out we were special. 00:07:53.949 --> 00:07:58.110 Do not confuse the specter of your origin with 00:07:58.110 --> 00:08:01.569 your present worth, my son. I don't believe him. 00:08:01.769 --> 00:08:06.290 There's just got to be more to it. That's honestly 00:08:06.290 --> 00:08:10.250 kind of where the IDW has kind of picked up the 00:08:10.250 --> 00:08:12.750 ball from every other previous Turtle's origin. 00:08:13.209 --> 00:08:15.290 Is that, yeah, it always has been an accident. 00:08:15.610 --> 00:08:18.389 You know, the ooze off the back of the truck. 00:08:18.629 --> 00:08:22.209 Yeah, they find out that it's the Utram ooze 00:08:22.209 --> 00:08:24.500 that... ended up down there, but it was an accident. 00:08:24.899 --> 00:08:29.740 And this time, with these guys coming from being 00:08:29.740 --> 00:08:33.200 reincarnated from Japan, it does mean more. The 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:36.360 whole mutagen, and their fate has intertwined 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:38.919 with the Triceratons since the age of the dinosaurs. 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:42.980 And that's cool. Secret of the Usedani would 00:08:42.980 --> 00:08:45.399 be really happy to know that. Yeah, I would absolutely 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.580 hope so, that Secret of the Usedani would be 00:08:48.580 --> 00:08:51.740 happy to know that, absolutely. Professor Jordan 00:08:51.740 --> 00:08:54.100 Perry was supposed to be in U -Trum. I bet he 00:08:54.100 --> 00:08:59.019 was, and we just never found out. Have we gotten 00:08:59.019 --> 00:09:03.659 him in... We haven't gotten Perry in... Perry 00:09:03.659 --> 00:09:07.919 was name -dropped as someone that Harold was 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:11.279 talking to. Okay, he was name -dropped, but we've 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:14.700 never actively ever seen him. Nope, they did 00:09:14.700 --> 00:09:17.779 not. To my understanding, and based on what we 00:09:17.779 --> 00:09:20.779 talked to Bobby about years and years ago, that 00:09:20.779 --> 00:09:22.919 they didn't have a lot of those background character 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:26.980 rights from the movies, but I think something 00:09:26.980 --> 00:09:32.659 changed when NECA started making Kino and Danny 00:09:32.659 --> 00:09:37.580 and Tatsu in action figure form. That feels like 00:09:37.580 --> 00:09:39.879 Nickelodeon got the license. I made a Jordan 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:43.539 Perry action figure too, which now I kind of 00:09:43.539 --> 00:09:46.570 actually want to... buy that and put an Utram 00:09:46.570 --> 00:09:49.909 in his stomach. Like, do a custom with a fabric 00:09:49.909 --> 00:09:52.909 lab coat that you can pull back and it's an Utram. 00:09:53.129 --> 00:09:57.330 Bobby, brother, you're in charge. Well, I mean, 00:09:57.330 --> 00:09:59.009 you're not, you know, whatever, but you know 00:09:59.009 --> 00:10:01.809 what I mean. Yeah, the licensors will probably 00:10:01.809 --> 00:10:04.950 let you have him now. Figure it out, because 00:10:04.950 --> 00:10:08.649 guess what? It would be a great homage since 00:10:08.649 --> 00:10:11.899 David Warner passed away three years ago. We 00:10:11.899 --> 00:10:16.860 need Professor Jordan Perry in the new book somehow. 00:10:18.340 --> 00:10:22.379 Oh, man, that would be so cool. Oh, damn it. 00:10:22.419 --> 00:10:25.039 Professor Jordan Perry, since we can't have him 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:31.840 work for TCRI, he could be the president of ENCOM. 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:41.580 Yeah, ENCOM from John. Oh, my God. Yeah, talk 00:10:41.580 --> 00:10:45.440 about, talk, talk, oh God, can you imagine? Can 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:51.580 you imagine? This, okay, I know, I don't know 00:10:51.580 --> 00:10:54.360 what Jason Aaron is doing currently with, I don't 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:57.279 know how that's going as far as like the characterization, 00:10:57.379 --> 00:11:04.480 but in the one to 150 issues, how our Mikey in 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:07.960 this series has gone after, especially after 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.600 issue 50. When we meet Mikey way back in issue 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:16.840 51, when he is split. Can you imagine Mikey on 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:22.659 a friggin' light cycle? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 00:11:22.779 --> 00:11:26.019 All right, folks. Reborn, TMNT Reborn, Volume 00:11:26.019 --> 00:11:29.759 7, Isolation. As Joe mentioned, the main cover 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:35.179 features Rat King, the Null Horny Chick, Baxter 00:11:35.179 --> 00:11:41.950 Stockman. uh um uh nope that one uh that's a 00:11:41.950 --> 00:11:45.970 surprise that's yeah that's um they give that 00:11:45.970 --> 00:11:49.409 well they gave it a what wow i didn't even realize 00:11:49.409 --> 00:11:53.909 it well we all thought that was cheryl yeah we 00:11:53.909 --> 00:11:56.230 all thought that was cheryl that's not cheryl 00:11:56.230 --> 00:12:05.190 that's um By the time this cover ends up on the 00:12:05.190 --> 00:12:09.830 comics, the episodes or the issues of Armageddon 00:12:09.830 --> 00:12:12.750 Game would have known when that character showed 00:12:12.750 --> 00:12:19.730 up. Yeah, absolutely. But, yeah. Because when 00:12:19.730 --> 00:12:23.490 that showed up... It's a metalhead. Yeah. Piloted 00:12:23.490 --> 00:12:29.269 by an U -Trom. Uh -huh. Because... Okay, so you 00:12:29.269 --> 00:12:34.100 gotta think. This is, like we said... Ooh, Casey 00:12:34.100 --> 00:12:40.019 and Sheena. Dudley the Cowlick. Wait, what? That 00:12:40.019 --> 00:12:43.240 thing on the cowlick box. Oh, it's the cowlick. 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.000 Okay, I thought that was... Whoops, sorry, Sheena. 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:49.580 Didn't mean to disrespect you like that. So this 00:12:49.580 --> 00:12:55.000 is TMNT issues number 133 to 139. The people 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:57.360 who worked on this book, that's not what I wanted 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:58.919 to say, but the people who worked on this book, 00:12:59.100 --> 00:13:02.240 story done by Sophie Campbell, art by Firo Pay, 00:13:03.179 --> 00:13:08.840 Colors done by Rhonda Pattison, as always. Also, 00:13:08.940 --> 00:13:12.320 letters done by Sean Lee, story consultants Kevin 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:16.740 Eastman, Tom Waltz. I also want to draw, since 00:13:16.740 --> 00:13:20.419 I'm drawing from the collected edition, cover 00:13:20.419 --> 00:13:23.659 by Farrow Pay, series editors Jonathan Manning 00:13:23.659 --> 00:13:27.649 and Charles Beecham. Series Associate Editor 00:13:27.649 --> 00:13:30.830 Zach Boone. Series Editorial Assistant Nicholas 00:13:30.830 --> 00:13:37.190 Nino. Collection Editor Alonzo Simon. Collection 00:13:37.190 --> 00:13:40.070 Group Editor Chris Simon. And Collection Design 00:13:40.070 --> 00:13:42.590 done by Sean Lee. That's the other thing Sean 00:13:42.590 --> 00:13:44.610 does a lot of the times. A lot of the times he 00:13:44.610 --> 00:13:47.610 will do the collection design, which this is 00:13:47.610 --> 00:13:51.309 amazing. The way the collections are designed 00:13:51.309 --> 00:13:56.009 with the images that we see on this interior 00:13:56.009 --> 00:13:58.470 and how the color, and obviously this is Rhonda's 00:13:58.470 --> 00:14:01.970 coloring, and how they changed that and whatever. 00:14:02.210 --> 00:14:07.470 So, yeah. We start in the future. And I have 00:14:07.470 --> 00:14:09.990 no idea what's going on here. Me either. I was 00:14:09.990 --> 00:14:13.730 like, what in the heck is going on? The future 00:14:13.730 --> 00:14:17.309 journals in the old Archie series, that's a really 00:14:17.309 --> 00:14:22.299 important storyline. And I always wait for any 00:14:22.299 --> 00:14:24.379 turtle series when it goes into the future to 00:14:24.379 --> 00:14:27.960 pull little things from that. And I need to go 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:29.820 back and reread that because I think they are 00:14:29.820 --> 00:14:32.840 going to make some pretty key references to it 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:36.059 pretty soon. But Bob, please don't do this. And 00:14:36.059 --> 00:14:38.139 he's got this monkey has some sort of device. 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:42.240 And I think it's old man Donatello. And we know 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:46.909 who that lady is now. It's Harmon. Yep. Yeah, 00:14:46.909 --> 00:14:51.289 I think it's Donnie. I don't think it's Leo. 00:14:51.350 --> 00:14:55.009 The stick he's carrying. He pulls a sword from 00:14:55.009 --> 00:15:01.269 it. He pulls a sword from it. Yeah. He visits 00:15:01.269 --> 00:15:07.250 later. That moment. I don't know. It doesn't 00:15:07.250 --> 00:15:08.850 look like he hits a button, but there's this 00:15:08.850 --> 00:15:13.419 weird glowing shark. shaped thing that is like 00:15:13.419 --> 00:15:16.100 devouring the world. I know what that shark thing 00:15:16.100 --> 00:15:19.159 is because I read the Archie series way back 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:26.340 in the day. Alright, well, I mean, it comes back 00:15:26.340 --> 00:15:28.759 though, doesn't it? Yeah, because this ends with... 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:34.179 I'm getting the sense that it's like, oh my man, 00:15:34.299 --> 00:15:36.460 pulling from Stephen King back here, like the 00:15:36.460 --> 00:15:39.720 Langoliers, I think? They were those little... 00:15:39.980 --> 00:15:42.539 Pac -Man monster, whatever. I watched the movie 00:15:42.539 --> 00:15:44.820 and had no clue what was going on. I was a child. 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:46.519 But these little Pac -Man monsters would come 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:50.379 by and eat the end of time. As time went forward, 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.559 they would consume it. I'm kind of getting the 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:56.279 sense that that's what this thing is doing, is 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:01.460 it's eating the end of time. I don't know. But 00:16:01.460 --> 00:16:03.620 Carmen wakes up. Oh, nope, you're right, it's 00:16:03.620 --> 00:16:05.639 Leo. Because she wakes up and says, No, Leo! 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:09.139 Okay. Yeah, yeah, it is Leo. It would have to 00:16:09.139 --> 00:16:11.340 be Leo if he's pulling a... Yeah, Donnie would 00:16:11.340 --> 00:16:14.200 not pull a sword, so maybe old man Leo needed 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:22.259 to use... Yeah, yeah, yeah. So... She sees Ciri. 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:30.460 And Ciri has pepperoni. And... Who's the cat? 00:16:31.019 --> 00:16:35.320 Maybe Clunk. That's a little too fuzzy to be 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:37.990 Clunk. Yeah, that's a little too fuzzy to be 00:16:37.990 --> 00:16:47.549 clunk. Honestly, I don't remember clunk. Pepperoni 00:16:47.549 --> 00:16:51.009 I remember because pepperoni is pepperoni, and 00:16:51.009 --> 00:16:54.649 you mess with pepperoni, Raph is going to... 00:16:54.649 --> 00:17:03.570 Raph is going to go up. Ain't nobody going to 00:17:03.570 --> 00:17:06.950 mess with pepperoni. It's like putting anchovies 00:17:06.950 --> 00:17:09.269 on pizza. You don't want to do that. You're going 00:17:09.269 --> 00:17:12.769 to get hooked up. So it looks like Donnie is 00:17:12.769 --> 00:17:16.750 playing the man in the chair for every other 00:17:16.750 --> 00:17:19.509 storyline going on right now in the other books. 00:17:20.509 --> 00:17:26.009 Yep, pretty much. He is. Very much so. Locked 00:17:26.009 --> 00:17:29.130 up in the compound. Bunches of monitors. Yep. 00:17:30.890 --> 00:17:33.130 I like that. I absolutely like that. I think 00:17:33.130 --> 00:17:38.230 that's cool. I think, uh, calm seat Donnie is 00:17:38.230 --> 00:17:41.569 a good thing. At least for now. Until he actually 00:17:41.569 --> 00:17:46.130 has to get out and get back into, oh man, you 00:17:46.130 --> 00:17:51.789 would not. So, uh, this is, what did I say? This 00:17:51.789 --> 00:17:58.109 is episode 577. This will air probably March 00:17:58.109 --> 00:18:04.220 19th. I believe. So, we are recording this, like, 00:18:04.259 --> 00:18:07.839 weeks ahead of when it'll actually air, folks, 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:11.160 but I read this the night before we recorded. 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:16.420 And y 'all know, if y 'all have been listening 00:18:16.420 --> 00:18:18.660 to Joe and I discuss this series for the last 00:18:18.660 --> 00:18:20.980 11 years here inside the Pull Bag, only on the 00:18:20.980 --> 00:18:24.299 Geekcast Radio Network, y 'all know how emotional 00:18:24.299 --> 00:18:30.319 I get reading this book. I love... command seat 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.259 Donnie here, but when he suits up and he gets 00:18:33.259 --> 00:18:39.420 back into action, ah, just, ah, it's so good. 00:18:40.539 --> 00:18:46.859 So good. So April calls in and Siri comes in 00:18:46.859 --> 00:18:53.339 with pepperoni and Siri and April meet through 00:18:53.339 --> 00:19:00.000 the screen. Um, Apparently Siri forgot Donatello's 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:02.680 name. She's forgetting everybody's name because 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:05.519 there's so many new people that she has to... 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:09.680 I mean, I kind of get that. You know, she's... 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:13.220 You know. There's that magic aging tech. You 00:19:13.220 --> 00:19:15.259 know, there are moments where she seems completely 00:19:15.259 --> 00:19:17.519 together and understands the complex situation, 00:19:17.819 --> 00:19:20.720 but then is like, I've never seen this thing 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:24.579 before. What is this? Yeah, what is this? And... 00:19:24.910 --> 00:19:27.509 I love seeing April here. I love seeing April 00:19:27.509 --> 00:19:29.650 on the screen talking to Donnie. I love that 00:19:29.650 --> 00:19:32.529 she and Mona are hanging back in the newsroom 00:19:32.529 --> 00:19:36.730 while Lola speaks out and goes on location and 00:19:36.730 --> 00:19:40.509 all that and everything else. And we have Carmen, 00:19:40.630 --> 00:19:45.210 Donnie, and Siri here doing their thing. And 00:19:45.210 --> 00:19:48.009 Siri picks up a little, I almost thought it was 00:19:48.009 --> 00:19:50.390 a mouser, but it's not. It's a little camera 00:19:50.390 --> 00:19:55.420 bot thing. It's from the video game. Yeah. The 00:19:55.420 --> 00:20:00.460 arcade game. Yeah, that's very cool. Yeah. Man, 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:08.440 they throw in everything, don't they? So we get... 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:15.440 Oh, and Space Heroes on the poster back there 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:17.500 behind Ceres asking, who are these Space Heroes? 00:20:17.579 --> 00:20:21.420 Could they help us defeat the Utrums? Space Heroes 00:20:21.420 --> 00:20:25.680 was 2012 Leonardo's show that he took leadership 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:31.559 inspiration from. Yup. Again, IDW just doesn't 00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:40.119 miss a beat to what it is. Is Bigfoot real too? 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:45.359 Probably. Probably. And then she touches the 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:47.819 crystal Donnie is experimenting on. He's like, 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:54.309 no, don't do that. Magic's gotta be a real thing 00:20:54.309 --> 00:20:58.849 too, right? Is it a magic crystal? Well, magic 00:20:58.849 --> 00:21:03.970 is just science that wasn't yet explained. I 00:21:03.970 --> 00:21:08.250 love how Donnie has gotten to the point of where 00:21:08.250 --> 00:21:12.750 he's not so anal about it all being science, 00:21:13.029 --> 00:21:17.829 but he's not also so anal of it being, it's all 00:21:17.829 --> 00:21:23.299 magical mumbo jumbo. Because back in the day, 00:21:23.339 --> 00:21:26.619 Donnie would be, it must have an explanation. 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:29.420 It must be explained. There must be a scientific 00:21:29.420 --> 00:21:32.799 method to everything. The other thing is reincarnation. 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:39.380 He says as he is being reincarnated. Yep. Mikey 00:21:39.380 --> 00:21:42.299 just starts speaking in Japanese. Wait, how did 00:21:42.299 --> 00:21:48.079 you? Oh, boy. He comes around by the end of this. 00:21:48.140 --> 00:21:50.000 Yeah, he does. He completely comes around at 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:53.529 the end of this. Literally. So he kind of shoos 00:21:53.529 --> 00:22:00.130 them out of his lab. And Ciri wants revenge on 00:22:00.130 --> 00:22:03.609 Shirelle. And Donnie's like, one thing at a time, 00:22:03.630 --> 00:22:07.289 but I promise you'll get your chance. And Carmen 00:22:07.289 --> 00:22:09.750 says, you should probably stay inside for a little 00:22:09.750 --> 00:22:11.769 while. What'd you say we play some video games? 00:22:11.910 --> 00:22:15.509 What are video games? Oh, just you wait. So that's 00:22:15.509 --> 00:22:21.860 going to keep Ciri busy for a while. Training. 00:22:21.860 --> 00:22:26.599 Yup. And we get back into Mutant Town and we 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:30.000 got a new constable in town. Oh yeah, because 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.240 Raph's off doing something. Basically, the rest 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:36.599 of the turtles are throughout most of this book 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:40.619 in the other stories, the other books that are 00:22:40.619 --> 00:22:43.180 coming out. And so we've got Raph off doing something, 00:22:43.259 --> 00:22:46.359 looking for Hob or whatnot. And Jennica has stepped 00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:52.990 up to be the acting constable in a town of ungrateful... 00:22:52.990 --> 00:22:57.910 I like her as ungrateful little shit mutants. 00:22:59.309 --> 00:23:02.970 I'm trying to protect you. Yeah, exactly. But 00:23:02.970 --> 00:23:06.529 no, I like Jennica as the new constable. I think 00:23:06.529 --> 00:23:09.490 this role fits her well. She would say it's less 00:23:09.490 --> 00:23:13.210 appropriate coming from a life of crime and getting 00:23:13.210 --> 00:23:15.029 in trouble with the law all that time, but... 00:23:15.210 --> 00:23:18.089 uh it's somebody like that that has a reformation 00:23:18.089 --> 00:23:19.869 that i think makes a really good cop because 00:23:19.869 --> 00:23:23.170 you know how not yeah yeah absolutely because 00:23:23.170 --> 00:23:26.990 she said to do all her own redeeming i was gonna 00:23:26.990 --> 00:23:29.150 say i was gonna say recompense but i knew that 00:23:29.150 --> 00:23:31.910 wasn't the right word uh but you know she said 00:23:31.910 --> 00:23:35.130 to have her own redemption be done and she's 00:23:35.130 --> 00:23:37.450 had all the stuff that's gone that she's gone 00:23:37.450 --> 00:23:40.849 through so she's more she's more understanding 00:23:40.849 --> 00:23:45.630 than wrath being wrath and beat the door down 00:23:45.630 --> 00:23:48.950 arrest everybody yep i mean if if people need 00:23:48.950 --> 00:23:51.569 to be arrested they'll be arrested but you know 00:23:51.569 --> 00:23:53.869 you can have a little bit of compassion and we 00:23:53.869 --> 00:23:56.710 got dj mona here on the radio and she gives an 00:23:56.710 --> 00:23:59.369 update on to pretty much all the other stuff 00:23:59.369 --> 00:24:02.490 uh she talks about what's going on in mutant 00:24:02.490 --> 00:24:05.630 town and how jenny's going around and she's giving 00:24:05.630 --> 00:24:09.650 positive vibes and all that good stuff and uh 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:16.480 Jenny gets a call from Sheena, so there's that. 00:24:16.579 --> 00:24:20.220 We do that, and Sheena is not doing so well. 00:24:21.420 --> 00:24:24.099 Yeah, there's going to have to be some kind of 00:24:24.099 --> 00:24:30.000 moment for her later to recover. Recover? They 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:38.559 practically break in. Emotionally. So in our 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:42.000 Mutant March journey here so far, folks, doing 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:45.980 the Reborn trades or the Reborn story arcs here 00:24:45.980 --> 00:24:51.660 to get to the end of the main series before they 00:24:51.660 --> 00:24:55.559 switched it over to the Volume 2 version of Turtles 00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:58.200 where Jason Aaron is writing the stories, I've 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:01.359 had a bunch of different feelings, but it's one 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:05.059 of those things where... I still like the story 00:25:05.059 --> 00:25:10.619 overall, but man, again, the emotional hits that 00:25:10.619 --> 00:25:17.160 this series just... And again, it's about the 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:22.819 characters. It's not about... Oh my god! I think 00:25:22.819 --> 00:25:26.480 it was in episode 575, because folks, by the 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:28.819 time you're going to hear this, I will have already 00:25:28.819 --> 00:25:34.589 edited all the other stuff. As of this current 00:25:34.589 --> 00:25:37.809 recording, I am just now finishing the edit on 00:25:37.809 --> 00:25:41.769 episode 575. But by the time you'll hear this, 00:25:41.829 --> 00:25:43.890 you'll have already heard it. You had said something 00:25:43.890 --> 00:25:47.150 in that episode about missing reading in your 00:25:47.150 --> 00:25:51.190 car that first day, getting the Wednesday... 00:25:51.190 --> 00:25:53.670 I almost said free comic book day. Wow. Wednesday, 00:25:53.730 --> 00:25:56.369 new comic book day, etc., etc., etc. And I'm 00:25:56.369 --> 00:25:57.750 sitting here thinking, no, wait for the trade. 00:25:57.829 --> 00:25:59.430 No, wait for the trade. No, wait for the trade. 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:04.480 And my thing is, is like most people that, and 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:06.619 we were also talking about in that episode about 00:26:06.619 --> 00:26:10.160 like, who is this being made for? Is this, you 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:13.500 had asked in that episode, like when we, or yeah, 00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:15.779 you had asked in that episode, who is this being 00:26:15.779 --> 00:26:18.440 made for when we get. the movie references, because 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:20.539 the movie lives in our heads. Like, you know, 00:26:20.539 --> 00:26:23.599 we see anybody with a pair of nunchucks that 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.440 is twirling them on their finger and saying, 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:27.920 you know, the first thing we're going to say 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:31.640 is keep practicing. You know, because, you know, 00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:34.099 I brought marshmallows. Put those things away. 00:26:34.440 --> 00:26:36.940 Anybody who's got sausage hooked together on 00:26:36.940 --> 00:26:42.519 the skin. Combat cold cuts. Combat cold cuts. 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.400 Yeah, exactly. Like, we have that rent -free 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:50.160 in our head, but not everyone does, because not 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.799 everyone is 40 -something -year -old males. Maybe 00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:58.140 certain story points like this story with Jennica 00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:00.539 and Sheena are appealing to the female audience. 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.940 I don't know. I was trying to think about that. 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.880 When I went back and I edited that, as I was 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:10.720 editing that episode, I had... Your question 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:14.319 in my head as I was reading this trade that we're 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.940 discussing now, like, who is IDW making this 00:27:17.940 --> 00:27:21.619 for? And it's the same thing I said, not trying 00:27:21.619 --> 00:27:24.980 to get quoted again on a new cover, but it's 00:27:24.980 --> 00:27:28.880 the same thing I said before they took our quote 00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:34.880 and put it on issue 55. This series is for anyone 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.839 who has ever been a TMNT fan. Young, old, boy, 00:27:38.859 --> 00:27:42.410 girl. In between whatever you want to classify 00:27:42.410 --> 00:27:45.150 yourself as, I don't care who you are. If you 00:27:45.150 --> 00:27:48.170 are a human being, because right now, currently, 00:27:48.390 --> 00:27:51.809 in humankind, there are no mutants. So, you know 00:27:51.809 --> 00:27:56.390 what I mean? It's kind of like that question 00:27:56.390 --> 00:27:59.710 in the Comic Origins, in all of my Origins episodes 00:27:59.710 --> 00:28:02.170 that I do. Whether it's toy collecting, whether 00:28:02.170 --> 00:28:05.430 it's video games, whether it's cartoons, comic 00:28:05.430 --> 00:28:09.180 books, whatever. Who should this be made for? 00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:14.640 Because most of that question normally is, most 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:19.779 people view, let's just say as an example, as 00:28:19.779 --> 00:28:21.640 a prelude, folks, because we're going to get 00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:23.700 Joe on the video game one at some point, but... 00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.380 Most parents or most people view video games 00:28:27.380 --> 00:28:31.799 as something that should be for kids and adults 00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:34.559 shouldn't partake in video games. Who do you 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:36.380 think, in your opinion, video games should be 00:28:36.380 --> 00:28:40.579 made for? Everybody. That's usually the... Anytime 00:28:40.579 --> 00:28:43.700 I ask that question, I can insert whatever topic. 00:28:43.819 --> 00:28:46.240 It doesn't matter if it's video games, comic 00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:47.700 books, toy collection. It doesn't matter what 00:28:47.700 --> 00:28:51.119 the hell it is. The usual answer, this should 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:54.660 be made for everybody. And the whole point of 00:28:54.660 --> 00:28:58.759 me spewing all this stuff here now with my voice 00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:03.500 is that this comic series is for everybody. It 00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:07.890 has something for everybody. And... The emotional 00:29:07.890 --> 00:29:12.589 swings that this series goes through and this 00:29:12.589 --> 00:29:16.710 call in this page, in this scene where Jenica... 00:29:16.710 --> 00:29:19.970 Is she calling Sheena or is Sheena calling her? 00:29:20.250 --> 00:29:23.309 I forget what's... It looks like Jenica called 00:29:23.309 --> 00:29:27.950 her. I wanted to call and see how you feel. So 00:29:27.950 --> 00:29:32.809 Jenica called Sheena and then we see that Sheena's 00:29:32.809 --> 00:29:34.990 not actually doing so well because she's hiding. 00:29:35.819 --> 00:29:38.180 in bed under the covers. And that's going to 00:29:38.180 --> 00:29:41.839 come up later because of certain events. Because 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:46.339 unfortunately, they do bad things. They as in 00:29:46.339 --> 00:29:50.119 other people, separate people that are bad people. 00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:56.700 Stupid, filthy, evil mutants. So we got Constable 00:29:56.700 --> 00:30:02.779 Jen... And this guy. Yeah. I responded to this 00:30:02.779 --> 00:30:06.990 as... You know, there are some people who think 00:30:06.990 --> 00:30:09.210 the government should be doing this thing or 00:30:09.210 --> 00:30:13.710 that thing or not this. And, you know, we back 00:30:13.710 --> 00:30:17.410 the blue, but we also get mad at the blue when 00:30:17.410 --> 00:30:19.769 they pull us over for speeding. Like, wait, wait, 00:30:19.769 --> 00:30:22.849 pick a side, man. And here's a cranky dog in 00:30:22.849 --> 00:30:26.009 the food market watching Jennica the constable 00:30:26.009 --> 00:30:28.670 go by and say, are you kidding? How about less 00:30:28.670 --> 00:30:32.250 people patrolling us? Like, dude, she's there 00:30:32.250 --> 00:30:35.299 for you. She's going to. protect you from the 00:30:35.299 --> 00:30:38.720 thing. That's why. They're not looking at you. 00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:43.480 Up until I scrolled in and I saw what he was 00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:48.920 saying, that this here, the wide shot of him, 00:30:49.099 --> 00:30:54.299 just the way that his character is drawn, the 00:30:54.299 --> 00:30:56.599 way his hat is, the way his sunglasses are, the 00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.700 way his clothing is, I'm like, oh. Hello, law 00:31:00.700 --> 00:31:04.339 enforcement. Literally, I thought it was McGruff 00:31:04.339 --> 00:31:08.779 the Crime Dog, honestly. I really did. And then 00:31:08.779 --> 00:31:10.359 I read what he was saying, and I'm like, oh, 00:31:10.420 --> 00:31:16.059 that's not McGruff the Crime Dog. Oh, yeah. And 00:31:16.059 --> 00:31:19.920 then we get Jennica meeting up with, oh, what's 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:25.660 the... I know that's Lita. What's her name? Oh. 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:29.819 Whoever she is, I hope they call her Aunt something 00:31:29.819 --> 00:31:35.920 or other. Yeah, it's Lola. There we go. I forgot 00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:38.319 who Lola is. That's not Lola. She's saying Lola 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:45.819 is at the State of the City address. It's a good 00:31:45.819 --> 00:31:49.099 thing this universe's Baxter isn't white. That's 00:31:49.099 --> 00:31:52.460 all I'm going to say. That's all I'm going to 00:31:52.460 --> 00:32:02.450 say about that. Because Baxter... Koya is looking 00:32:02.450 --> 00:32:06.289 for Bludgeon. Bludgeon is sneaking down to the 00:32:06.289 --> 00:32:11.069 basement because he has a hidden friend. Oh, 00:32:11.109 --> 00:32:21.329 yes. Oh, yes. And they are training. So it's 00:32:21.329 --> 00:32:25.990 Bludgeoned and Venus, and they are both distracted. 00:32:28.029 --> 00:32:32.809 And all of a sudden, Venus's arm does something 00:32:32.809 --> 00:32:36.170 really, really weird, and they try to meditate 00:32:36.170 --> 00:32:42.930 more. They both seem pretty chill about her just 00:32:42.930 --> 00:32:46.960 regrowing an arm spontaneously. Yeah. That was 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.059 a little, okay, we're just going to put that 00:32:50.059 --> 00:32:55.339 over here. And they meditate, meditate, meditate, 00:32:55.440 --> 00:33:00.259 and apparently, what's Donnie doing? I mean, 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.700 she's meditating, and her meditation basically 00:33:03.700 --> 00:33:07.200 reaches out to him. Yep, they're tied together. 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.599 Either he felt her or she accidentally contacted 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:13.839 him. Yes. And he asks her, where are you? But 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:18.140 what I find so interesting about this is her 00:33:18.140 --> 00:33:22.880 going from the human that she was to the frog 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.680 that she was to obviously who she is now. So 00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:28.460 it's Bonnie all the way to Venus. What I find 00:33:28.460 --> 00:33:31.500 really interesting about this page is that when 00:33:31.500 --> 00:33:33.680 we see the meditation between the two of them, 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:38.140 hers starts out with... Her as a human, her as 00:33:38.140 --> 00:33:41.000 a frog, and then her as she is now. So we go 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:44.480 Bonnie as a human, Bonnie as a frog, and then 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.799 Venus as the turtle that she is. And then Donnie's 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:54.220 is Donnie as he is, but he's meditating on Bebop, 00:33:54.299 --> 00:34:00.339 Rocksteady, and Rat King? No, that's the surgeon. 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.710 Fucker, Barlow. Oh, Dr. Barlow! Yeah, yeah, Dr. 00:34:05.829 --> 00:34:08.530 Barlow. Okay, so Rocksteady, Bebop, Rocksteady, 00:34:08.550 --> 00:34:11.989 and Dr. Barlow. So those are the three that Donnie... 00:34:11.989 --> 00:34:15.110 But he doesn't look like he's really, I mean, 00:34:15.130 --> 00:34:18.670 sitting at the... He wasn't. I think it was just 00:34:18.670 --> 00:34:23.369 she intruded by accident. And brought that out 00:34:23.369 --> 00:34:29.110 of him. Okay. That's both of their trauma. Yes. 00:34:29.739 --> 00:34:32.260 Her two former lives now being this new thing 00:34:32.260 --> 00:34:35.880 and him, the destruction and rebuilding of his 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.880 shell and the hope of getting it replaced, but 00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:45.679 not, but not. Yep. Gotcha. Oh, Don. Yep. She 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:48.440 says, uh, I can't tell you right now where I 00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:53.519 am. Wait, no. Damn it. Let me see on the screen. 00:34:53.579 --> 00:34:57.139 Baxter says, We cannot yet be certain if our 00:34:57.139 --> 00:35:00.019 mutated neighbors are to be trusted. You can 00:35:00.019 --> 00:35:03.039 rest assured that your mayor will continue to 00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:07.559 keep you and yours safe from now, from any harm 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:14.340 they may be capable of. And Donnie is just like, 00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:18.960 lies. No, I think that's coming through the television. 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.230 Somebody at the door is saying. That's right. 00:35:22.329 --> 00:35:25.090 That's right. Lies. Safe and secure from the 00:35:25.090 --> 00:35:28.670 big bad mutant. Yep. Lies. Oh, yes. Yep. The 00:35:28.670 --> 00:35:33.010 next page. Yep. The next page is... Oh, that... 00:35:33.010 --> 00:35:38.369 Yeah. They are here. The white turtles are attacking 00:35:38.369 --> 00:35:40.429 him during his state of the state. Or state of 00:35:40.429 --> 00:35:45.170 the city address. Mm -hmm. And the whole thing 00:35:45.170 --> 00:35:48.369 is it's a ploy, these fake turtles, to frame 00:35:48.369 --> 00:35:52.860 our turtles for... Yep. Yep. For the attack, 00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:56.460 yeah. So they are here, they are in this trade, 00:35:56.699 --> 00:36:00.480 and that is why I ended up going to search out, 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.579 that's why I did all my research of trying to 00:36:02.579 --> 00:36:06.440 figure out who the hell they are, who the hell 00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:09.199 made them, yadda yadda yadda yadda, hoping for 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.559 something more than just, oh, they're just four 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:17.920 null numbskulls dressed up as turtles. Oh man, 00:36:18.179 --> 00:36:22.179 there's nothing more than that? Come on! I mean, 00:36:22.179 --> 00:36:26.079 I know the one part in Turtles 2 is more funny 00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:30.260 than the disappointment, but I really feel like 00:36:30.260 --> 00:36:33.559 Donatello, when he was hiding, when he was doing 00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:37.179 the pointed stick thing... when he was acting 00:36:37.179 --> 00:36:40.239 like the little doll when the foot soldier pushed 00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.260 him and he pushed back and he poked him in the 00:36:42.260 --> 00:36:44.119 eye and he grabbed the thing and whacked him 00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.519 with the thing. I feel like that doll thing going 00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:50.039 back and forth. I'm like, oh, damn it! Is it, 00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:53.179 isn't it? It isn't, unfortunately. I wanted more. 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:07.289 In 11 years, have I ever... ever fully complained 00:37:07.289 --> 00:37:11.789 about a story beat like really like oh my god 00:37:11.789 --> 00:37:15.730 have i ever been let down no i think idw can 00:37:15.730 --> 00:37:20.210 give me this one where it's like i'm like i wanted 00:37:20.210 --> 00:37:26.429 more like they look too cool they look too cool 00:37:26.429 --> 00:37:32.829 to just be numbskulls from Null using whatever 00:37:32.829 --> 00:37:37.989 tech to dress up as turtles with white masks. 00:37:40.070 --> 00:37:43.989 Damn it. Anyway, so they attack Baxter at the 00:37:43.989 --> 00:37:48.070 State of the City address. Donnie calls April 00:37:48.070 --> 00:37:54.369 and Mona, calls Jenny, calls everybody. He can't 00:37:54.369 --> 00:37:58.050 get a hold of anybody. Some dude in a chair he 00:37:58.050 --> 00:38:02.000 is. It's not his fault. They're everywhere. Yeah, 00:38:02.059 --> 00:38:04.760 they're everywhere. Dudes and chairs, we are 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:11.480 everywhere. That's right. So, Jenny gets lettuce 00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:16.599 thrown at her. Oh, boy. And it is a... It's mayhem. 00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:34.000 It's mayhem. Boo. What? It was right there. Like, 00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.989 you know. And I will say, and we're not going 00:38:36.989 --> 00:38:39.389 to get too far off on this, because we'll probably 00:38:39.389 --> 00:38:41.869 do our own episode on it at some point. I know 00:38:41.869 --> 00:38:45.590 my buddy Optimus Solo and my other buddy, the 00:38:45.590 --> 00:38:48.530 comic concierge Dan Clark, on their show they 00:38:48.530 --> 00:38:52.849 did do a whole Turtles movie marathon month thing 00:38:52.849 --> 00:38:55.829 on the Cinema Geeks, and they did cover the new 00:38:55.829 --> 00:39:00.349 TMNT Mutant Mayhem movie. I think I saw it. I 00:39:00.349 --> 00:39:02.869 don't remember if I saw it or not. All I know 00:39:02.869 --> 00:39:08.570 is... It's not for me, and that's okay. I'm glad 00:39:08.570 --> 00:39:11.349 that it's there. Yes, the new movie. Oh, man. 00:39:11.469 --> 00:39:16.250 The new animated movie. Yep. No, no. That's absolutely... 00:39:16.250 --> 00:39:20.349 You've got two boys. You've got two young boys. 00:39:21.510 --> 00:39:25.210 That's my point, is that me as a 45 -year -old 00:39:25.210 --> 00:39:28.030 who does not have children, it's not for me, 00:39:28.070 --> 00:39:31.039 and that's okay. Which is interesting. I could 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.119 hear you saying that about the new newish cartoon, 00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:40.300 um, rise of the turtles. Same thing. The last 00:39:40.300 --> 00:39:42.340 episode of that, there's like a TV movie or something 00:39:42.340 --> 00:39:46.139 really good, really, really good. Yeah. And, 00:39:46.139 --> 00:39:50.219 but mutant mayhem, there's, uh, there's enough 00:39:50.219 --> 00:39:52.400 of those kinds of adult jokes that are hidden 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:56.900 in plain sight that make it fun. But I, I'm not, 00:39:56.900 --> 00:40:00.179 I didn't enjoy it. Like I said, I think I saw 00:40:00.179 --> 00:40:02.900 it. I don't remember because I can barely remember 00:40:02.900 --> 00:40:07.179 yesterday. But, you know, it's one of those things 00:40:07.179 --> 00:40:10.980 where because they actually casted teenagers 00:40:10.980 --> 00:40:14.179 to do the voices, they actually casted. They 00:40:14.179 --> 00:40:17.099 want this to be the next for the next generation. 00:40:17.420 --> 00:40:20.440 I am perfectly. There's so much turtle stuff 00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.530 for me. There's so many other Turtle things. 00:40:23.750 --> 00:40:26.929 I don't need to have every new thing be mine. 00:40:27.070 --> 00:40:31.869 I'm okay with that in the franchise. The cartoon 00:40:31.869 --> 00:40:37.190 that they released, it's kind of part one and 00:40:37.190 --> 00:40:42.230 a half of the movies. There's an animated one 00:40:42.230 --> 00:40:44.710 that's based on the Turtles from this new new 00:40:44.710 --> 00:40:49.150 movie. Okay. And it's maybe 10 episodes long. 00:40:49.269 --> 00:40:53.449 That's pretty fun as well. But it's interesting 00:40:53.449 --> 00:40:55.829 for me to kind of think, like, would that resonate 00:40:55.829 --> 00:41:02.190 for me as well as it did if I didn't have kids? 00:41:03.230 --> 00:41:08.590 The animation style, it made me feel like Spider 00:41:08.590 --> 00:41:15.449 -Man. It exists in a way that it could not work. 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:17.860 any other way. That movie had to be experienced 00:41:17.860 --> 00:41:22.019 like that. It's a spectacle. Getting back to 00:41:22.019 --> 00:41:25.739 the comic here, we're seeing that everyone, Jenny 00:41:25.739 --> 00:41:28.880 needs backup, Angel is at Harold's lab working 00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:35.000 on her suit, and she gets an alarm as some weird 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.579 new explosive energy source is basically incoming. 00:41:41.230 --> 00:41:44.230 And basically practically destroys her pretty 00:41:44.230 --> 00:41:46.550 much. For half a second I thought that was Splinter. 00:41:46.650 --> 00:41:49.889 That's not Splinter. But it looks like him a 00:41:49.889 --> 00:41:54.070 little bit. They're weird mutants. But in a red 00:41:54.070 --> 00:42:01.210 glowing eye in the dog form that character reminds 00:42:01.210 --> 00:42:05.369 me of I think it's Verminator X from the Archie 00:42:05.369 --> 00:42:07.829 run. I don't know if that's what it's supposed 00:42:07.829 --> 00:42:11.440 to be but It definitely gave me that kind of 00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:15.420 vibe. Yeah, absolutely. So we got some weird 00:42:15.420 --> 00:42:20.800 new evil mutants here who attack Angel, and that's 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:26.159 how we end this one. Oh, man. And around this 00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:28.980 era, you're looking at... Sorry, Mike is sharing 00:42:28.980 --> 00:42:32.400 a screen, and I'm seeing the next cover. Eastman 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:37.449 and Sophie Campbell have hooked up to do... the 00:42:37.449 --> 00:42:41.010 variant covers for the next couple of issues, 00:42:41.070 --> 00:42:45.590 I think through one 50, they are amazing. Yeah, 00:42:45.670 --> 00:42:48.670 this is good. It's, it's Eastman's pencils and 00:42:48.670 --> 00:42:53.050 Sophie inking. Um, and she can just do amazing 00:42:53.050 --> 00:42:56.989 things with Eastman's pencils. They, uh, I like 00:42:56.989 --> 00:43:01.230 Kevin Eastman's art. It's, it is. what it is, 00:43:01.230 --> 00:43:03.849 and it references the old, or kind of callback 00:43:03.849 --> 00:43:07.949 to the old series. It does look flat. It's very 00:43:07.949 --> 00:43:10.849 kind of graphic and poster -like, but what Sophie 00:43:10.849 --> 00:43:13.190 does with his pencils and whoever did the coloring, 00:43:13.349 --> 00:43:14.989 I guess, Sophie probably did the coloring, too. 00:43:15.309 --> 00:43:19.849 They're awesome. And I broke my rule and went 00:43:19.849 --> 00:43:23.590 out of my way to find a lot of the variants and 00:43:23.590 --> 00:43:27.710 the regular covers. I think my biggest problem 00:43:28.940 --> 00:43:31.239 And again, folks, this is just my own personal 00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.820 thing. I would love for us to interview Kevin 00:43:34.820 --> 00:43:38.179 at one of these days, but my biggest issue with 00:43:38.179 --> 00:43:42.099 enjoying his art, and we talked about this with 00:43:42.099 --> 00:43:44.780 issue, I think it was issue 100 maybe, because 00:43:44.780 --> 00:43:50.500 there was one issue where they went back and 00:43:50.500 --> 00:43:53.860 did a whole thing, set of pages where it was 00:43:53.860 --> 00:43:58.239 the old style. Yeah, he did a flashback. Yeah, 00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:02.760 yeah, yeah. So my whole problem with most of 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.500 his covers, outside of a few of them, is that 00:44:06.500 --> 00:44:08.460 they are all, like you said, they're all flat, 00:44:08.659 --> 00:44:10.960 they're all this, they're all that, and most 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:13.900 of the time he's doing his own colors. It's not 00:44:13.900 --> 00:44:17.119 other people doing the colors or things like 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:21.900 that. This, because this is Donnie and... Sari. 00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.199 Sari. I like this. This looks really, really 00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:27.519 good. I almost thought it was Rhonda. If I didn't 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.340 see Sophie's name up there, I would have almost 00:44:29.340 --> 00:44:32.380 thought it was Rhonda's colors, but no, I like 00:44:32.380 --> 00:44:34.619 that. Looks really good. That's actually the 00:44:34.619 --> 00:44:39.920 alternate to whatever, 133, probably. And this 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.780 is the next one by Fero Pei with the Uthram, 00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:48.260 and the Uthram is playing with some action figures 00:44:48.260 --> 00:44:52.179 of Donnie and Sari. Oh, that's creepy. Brains 00:44:52.179 --> 00:44:57.400 should not have teeth, folks. Just saying. We 00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:01.329 got Mona on the radio. Hey, I have a new microphone 00:45:01.329 --> 00:45:03.809 arm just like that, sort of, kind of, not really, 00:45:03.909 --> 00:45:06.710 but similar, very, very similar. Hey out there, 00:45:06.730 --> 00:45:09.750 Mutant Town, Mona Lisa here with a special evening 00:45:09.750 --> 00:45:13.070 update, because things are bananas out there 00:45:13.070 --> 00:45:17.690 right now. The attack on Mayor Stockman has kicked 00:45:17.690 --> 00:45:21.429 off the worst unrest Mutant Town has seen since 00:45:21.429 --> 00:45:25.030 the Mutanimals were running things. Oh, wow. 00:45:25.369 --> 00:45:30.489 Has it been that long? Man Ray was right. I stand 00:45:30.489 --> 00:45:32.829 with the Splinter Clan. Turtles are innocent. 00:45:34.010 --> 00:45:41.389 Mankind must unite. I love this one. Cross out 00:45:41.389 --> 00:45:45.650 heart. Because that's Raph. But Raph's not around. 00:45:46.010 --> 00:45:48.469 But that's cool. I love that. That's very cool. 00:45:49.389 --> 00:45:52.210 You've got folks who believe the four white mass 00:45:52.210 --> 00:45:56.010 turtles are heroes brave enough to finally stick 00:45:56.010 --> 00:46:00.210 it to Stockman. And people who believe it's all 00:46:00.210 --> 00:46:04.010 just a tactic orchestrated by the powers that 00:46:04.010 --> 00:46:08.190 be to divide us. I love how they... I love this 00:46:08.190 --> 00:46:10.409 page. I love how they did this, where you start 00:46:10.409 --> 00:46:13.210 with her in her broadcast booth, and then you 00:46:13.210 --> 00:46:17.449 go out and you see the people and how she's reporting 00:46:17.449 --> 00:46:19.829 over the radio. I love radio broadcasts like 00:46:19.829 --> 00:46:23.449 that. I love seeing how, yeah, this is so cool. 00:46:23.590 --> 00:46:26.269 So very, very cool. Or Jenny. I had to trash 00:46:26.269 --> 00:46:29.929 the soup kitchen. Damn it. Okay. I don't know 00:46:29.929 --> 00:46:31.789 if it's because she's got the constable gear 00:46:31.789 --> 00:46:36.329 on, but you put a red bandana on her, that's 00:46:36.329 --> 00:46:42.230 Raph. Only because of the damn it. Only because 00:46:42.230 --> 00:46:44.889 of the damn it. We got the mutants talking here. 00:46:46.210 --> 00:46:50.429 Hey, there she is. You don't belong here. No, 00:46:50.429 --> 00:46:53.730 I'm trying to keep you guys safe. She runs away 00:46:53.730 --> 00:46:57.030 from them. She hides in the alleyway there from 00:46:57.030 --> 00:47:01.869 them. I am not cut out for this. Oh, Jay, what 00:47:01.869 --> 00:47:06.610 are you doing here? Hiding. Same as you. And... 00:47:06.610 --> 00:47:11.050 I remember Jay. I like Jay. I don't like this 00:47:11.050 --> 00:47:16.610 guy. He got shifty eyes. Uh -huh, uh -huh, uh 00:47:16.610 --> 00:47:19.420 -huh, uh -huh, uh -huh. I already knew. As soon 00:47:19.420 --> 00:47:23.039 as, like, Jay, I know. I remember Jay. Jay's 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:29.179 cool. This dude, this dude got, like, before 00:47:29.179 --> 00:47:32.820 his eye even glows, his left eye that glows red, 00:47:32.860 --> 00:47:38.800 I think. Uh -uh. Hell no. Hell no. Get your shifty 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:44.179 eyes out of here, you. And here we go, folks. 00:47:44.750 --> 00:47:47.030 I'm going to try my best, but I don't know if 00:47:47.030 --> 00:47:49.610 I can keep it together here. So the turtles who 00:47:49.610 --> 00:47:52.409 attack Stockman could simply be other turtles, 00:47:52.489 --> 00:47:55.389 since there were other turtle mutants created 00:47:55.389 --> 00:48:00.170 by the M -bomb, like Leta and Toca. So it's perfectly 00:48:00.170 --> 00:48:05.769 plausible. And the mutant town public knows who 00:48:05.769 --> 00:48:09.769 we are and our personal weapons. The fact that 00:48:09.769 --> 00:48:13.110 there are four Hamato brothers, that's not a 00:48:13.110 --> 00:48:16.659 secret. So someone could considerably imitate 00:48:16.659 --> 00:48:21.679 us. Perhaps to frame us. It also seems like it 00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.360 couldn't possibly be a coincidence that we just 00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:28.480 dealt with Dr. Barlow and his surgically altered 00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:33.480 mutant hybrids. So as Donnie is basically suiting 00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.199 up in the old gear, he's telling this all to 00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:41.349 Siri, Lita, and... And Carmen. He's very overwhelmed. 00:48:42.110 --> 00:48:45.769 Okay, I got a question for you. So this panel 00:48:45.769 --> 00:48:48.510 here, before he says he's overwhelmed, where 00:48:48.510 --> 00:48:52.690 Carmen says, where she asks him if he's okay. 00:48:52.949 --> 00:48:57.489 All right? Now, the way that this is drawn, and 00:48:57.489 --> 00:48:59.829 I don't think this is me just zooming in on it, 00:48:59.869 --> 00:49:01.809 and I'm not trying to zoom in too far, but if 00:49:01.809 --> 00:49:04.449 you were to look at this just like this as a 00:49:04.449 --> 00:49:08.159 regular comic book page in your hand, And I don't 00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.280 know how good or bad your eyesight is, but I'm 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:14.440 legally blind. So I need to zoom in on it. But 00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:16.840 if I was looking at this, this page would be, 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:19.059 if I had a physical comic book here, it would 00:49:19.059 --> 00:49:21.559 be two inches away from my face. So I would see 00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:24.780 the detail. So I'm going to zoom in on this. 00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:30.639 Do you think the drawing here of Donatello, like 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:35.099 this, this is his skin, obviously. Yep. I know 00:49:35.099 --> 00:49:39.079 his shell is different because it's a metal shell. 00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:42.860 I'm not complaining. I'm just asking a question. 00:49:43.219 --> 00:49:47.260 Do you think this looks as good or better than 00:49:47.260 --> 00:49:50.119 a turtle with a... I've got to see if I can catch 00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:51.940 one of the other brothers or I've got to catch 00:49:51.940 --> 00:49:59.340 Jennica or somebody from an angle of their shell 00:49:59.340 --> 00:50:01.420 facing the camera to see if I can compare it. 00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:06.820 But it just... Does this look too pixelated to 00:50:06.820 --> 00:50:16.340 you? The artist is using a tone pack, a brush 00:50:16.340 --> 00:50:19.000 in whatever digital program, and it looks like 00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:23.599 there's two layers of them. There's the light 00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:27.019 skin of Donnie, and then there's the darker flesh 00:50:27.019 --> 00:50:32.440 tone, but then there's one screen of these light 00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.849 -colored dots. that make a medium tone, and then 00:50:36.849 --> 00:50:40.929 there's a second screen of darker dots to make 00:50:40.929 --> 00:50:46.550 a deep shadow. And so it's the same, but it's 00:50:46.550 --> 00:50:50.010 the same texture from the shell to the arm. It's 00:50:50.010 --> 00:50:52.730 really easy to see the dots on the shadows behind 00:50:52.730 --> 00:50:58.150 Carmen, because it's not a lighter color. Yeah, 00:50:58.150 --> 00:51:00.130 yeah, yeah. No, no, no, I know. That's everywhere. 00:51:01.170 --> 00:51:04.900 And there's no detail. But he's the only one 00:51:04.900 --> 00:51:10.360 that has the metal shell. Okay, yes. Technically, 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:12.139 he's the only one that has the metal shell. But 00:51:12.139 --> 00:51:17.059 I don't notice this as far as we're zoomed in. 00:51:17.219 --> 00:51:19.300 How far are we zoomed in here? I'm zoomed in 00:51:19.300 --> 00:51:24.179 110 % on this page. I see this a little bit in 00:51:24.179 --> 00:51:27.460 Siri's face here and neck, but I don't see it 00:51:27.460 --> 00:51:30.039 on her arm. I don't really see... I see it on 00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.559 Lita's, like, pants here. I see it on... But, 00:51:33.619 --> 00:51:37.579 like, Donnie specifically, like, even zoomed 00:51:37.579 --> 00:51:42.119 out, I can see it on him. Like, and I'm legally 00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:46.119 blind, and I, like... I zoomed out to 35 % of 00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:49.699 the, of the page. So this is only, again, I'm 00:51:49.699 --> 00:51:53.340 not complaining. I'm just asking, uh, uh, an 00:51:53.340 --> 00:51:57.219 art question is all, do you think it was intentionally 00:51:57.219 --> 00:52:04.239 done to show his metal shell overall versus a 00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:08.340 turtle that would have an actual regular real 00:52:08.340 --> 00:52:11.360 turtle shell? That's the whole point of all of 00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:13.639 this. I flipped through the book, and it looks 00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:17.300 like even natural shells are shaded the same 00:52:17.300 --> 00:52:20.179 way when there's a dark shadow on them. I think 00:52:20.179 --> 00:52:23.000 it's just really apparent there, because Donnie's 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:26.000 in shadow, or lit from the front, and we're looking 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:29.099 at his back, so everything got shaded. Again, 00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:30.719 not a complaint. It looks like they're all the 00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:35.000 same. Even down here, seeing them, it's the same 00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:38.019 trick. It's fine. Again, I'm not complaining 00:52:38.019 --> 00:52:40.619 about the art choice. I'm not complaining about 00:52:40.619 --> 00:52:43.920 the art design. I just was curious to see if 00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:47.199 this was because the dude has a metal shell. 00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:50.059 If the artist was trying to distinguish, other 00:52:50.059 --> 00:52:51.960 than, you know, coloring the damn thing bright 00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:55.000 silver and making him look like, making his shell 00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:58.480 look like the color of the silver of, oh, what's 00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:02.280 the character? Orokosaki's son. The new shredder. 00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:05.929 The new... Hiroto? You know who I'm... Yes. Like, 00:53:05.929 --> 00:53:09.690 that color silver. I mean, that would be a, oh, 00:53:09.809 --> 00:53:12.429 he's got a metal shell. Like, this to me looks 00:53:12.429 --> 00:53:14.949 like, oh, it's just a green shell. You couldn't 00:53:14.949 --> 00:53:17.670 even tell it was metal unless you hit it. I see 00:53:17.670 --> 00:53:19.530 the screw holes, and that's about the only thing 00:53:19.530 --> 00:53:23.289 that differentiates. Yeah, I mean, yeah. It's 00:53:23.289 --> 00:53:26.409 the same color in most other panels as the rest 00:53:26.409 --> 00:53:29.320 of the Turtles. And now, see, you mentioned the 00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:31.099 screw holes. Now I'm looking at the screw holes 00:53:31.099 --> 00:53:33.460 to see what kind of screws they are. Like, boy, 00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:35.260 somebody got a Phillips or a flathead. You're 00:53:35.260 --> 00:53:39.699 screwed, Donnie. Nobody uses flathead screws 00:53:39.699 --> 00:53:43.880 anymore. What monster put that show on? It was 00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:50.579 Harold. That's right. Harold the monster. All 00:53:50.579 --> 00:53:53.719 right. So Donnie's getting ready to go out there. 00:53:54.769 --> 00:54:00.510 And so they say their goodbyes. They're locking 00:54:00.510 --> 00:54:02.530 up the fortress behind them because somebody's 00:54:02.530 --> 00:54:07.449 going to get in. Yep, somebody always gets in. 00:54:08.670 --> 00:54:14.230 He puts Ciri in the chair in charge of all the 00:54:14.230 --> 00:54:16.409 comms and the stuff and the whatever. You get 00:54:16.409 --> 00:54:23.219 Carmen, Lita, and Pepperoni there as well. And 00:54:23.219 --> 00:54:26.679 he goes out and he does him some investigating, 00:54:26.739 --> 00:54:31.019 and we go back to Venus. I do love the way that 00:54:31.019 --> 00:54:36.320 this is shot. I do think this is cool. The telepathic 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:40.059 head thing between Venus and Donatello. She does 00:54:40.059 --> 00:54:41.900 say that she wishes she could help him, but things 00:54:41.900 --> 00:54:44.300 are difficult at the moment, so there's that. 00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:47.849 Venus, I was just thinking about you. I know, 00:54:47.969 --> 00:54:51.230 Bludgeon and I sensed something. Bludgeon, where 00:54:51.230 --> 00:54:54.449 are you, Venus? Please, don't say you're a foot. 00:54:54.550 --> 00:55:00.389 No, I'm not. Liar. You liar. Liar, liar, Venus 00:55:00.389 --> 00:55:04.130 on fire. I mean, it is closer to the sun, so 00:55:04.130 --> 00:55:09.690 it could be on fire. You never know. And Donatello 00:55:09.690 --> 00:55:13.050 says, well, okay, but you say you wished you 00:55:13.050 --> 00:55:18.340 could help me, so why can't you? I just can't. 00:55:18.340 --> 00:55:21.380 All right, forget it. I don't need you. He says 00:55:21.380 --> 00:55:25.380 that after they disconnect their telepathic whatever. 00:55:27.099 --> 00:55:35.130 Telepathic, telepathetic, whatever. We cut back 00:55:35.130 --> 00:55:39.210 to Jenny and the mutants, and Jenny goes to the 00:55:39.210 --> 00:55:42.730 apartment complex where Sheena is, and she says 00:55:42.730 --> 00:55:47.610 to Jay and the evil fox mutant thing, wait here, 00:55:47.670 --> 00:55:50.309 I'll be right back. She yells for Sheena, uh 00:55:50.309 --> 00:55:55.309 -oh, that cop is here. I'm not a cop. Oh, fine. 00:55:55.969 --> 00:56:05.780 Everybody out! Everybody out. Hey, hey, leave 00:56:05.780 --> 00:56:09.320 her alone. I can't stay locked in here and ignore 00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:13.199 what's going on out there. And it's this hungry, 00:56:13.340 --> 00:56:16.079 hungry hippo -looking dude attacking Sheena. 00:56:17.619 --> 00:56:23.239 Sorry. Hey, it's... No. I've got... I'm mixing 00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:26.159 up my comfort... Oh, have you heard what Hasbro's 00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:29.449 doing? This is a side note, folks. I've heard 00:56:29.449 --> 00:56:31.989 a lot of things about them doing Toy Fair this 00:56:31.989 --> 00:56:35.809 weekend. This week, well, by the time people 00:56:35.809 --> 00:56:38.150 will hear this. By the time they record it, they'll 00:56:38.150 --> 00:56:40.550 know everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This came 00:56:40.550 --> 00:56:43.449 out at the end of last year. It's part of their 00:56:43.449 --> 00:56:48.269 new play -to -win strategy. This pro's going 00:56:48.269 --> 00:56:50.710 to be licensing out some Transformers stuff to 00:56:50.710 --> 00:56:57.110 Playmates. Huh. And I'm like, wait, what? Well, 00:56:57.590 --> 00:57:00.269 didn't they do that before for the Rescue Bots 00:57:00.269 --> 00:57:03.510 lines? Wasn't that a Playmates? I think, but 00:57:03.510 --> 00:57:06.389 I don't remember. I don't have all the correct 00:57:06.389 --> 00:57:08.590 information in front of me to tell you factually 00:57:08.590 --> 00:57:10.389 stuff. Let's get back to the turtles here. So 00:57:10.389 --> 00:57:15.969 Donnie runs in, rescues Angel, bandages her up, 00:57:16.070 --> 00:57:20.269 gets her out of there, sees a dismembered arm. 00:57:20.469 --> 00:57:25.880 What is this? But he sees that it's... It's a 00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:30.420 Terminator arm. I'm sorry. I had to. It's my 00:57:30.420 --> 00:57:34.739 time. Dude, it's... I feel it. God, I have so 00:57:34.739 --> 00:57:36.840 many references running around in my head. I've 00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:43.159 had the... Have you seen the... The old Bugs 00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:46.619 Bunny Frankenstein cartoon with Gossamer where 00:57:46.619 --> 00:57:49.360 he's chasing it? Okay, this is a long time ago. 00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.119 There's one of the Bugs Bunny cartoons where... 00:57:53.820 --> 00:57:55.500 They're running around, running around, running 00:57:55.500 --> 00:57:59.440 around, and there's this female robotic wind 00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:03.380 -up rabbit that keeps interrupting them. And 00:58:03.380 --> 00:58:07.780 at one point or another, Bugs is like, she's 00:58:07.780 --> 00:58:10.340 wound up, and she's coming up to him, and she 00:58:10.340 --> 00:58:13.860 plants a kiss on Bugs' cheek, and he goes, so 00:58:13.860 --> 00:58:18.019 it's mechanical, so what? First thing I thought 00:58:18.019 --> 00:58:21.079 of. When I see robot parts, it's either Terminator 00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:29.469 or Bugs Bunny. Wait a second. What is this? He 00:58:29.469 --> 00:58:32.889 picks up the arm. I'm sure he recognizes that 00:58:32.889 --> 00:58:36.909 that's Uhtram tech. Yeah. Yeah, I know this tech. 00:58:37.329 --> 00:58:40.130 Uhtrams, they have to be after Ciri. Yep, he 00:58:40.130 --> 00:58:45.030 directly says it. The Triceraton girl? Like, 00:58:45.130 --> 00:58:49.570 they know everything. And he gets out, or she 00:58:49.570 --> 00:58:53.119 gives him the grab generator. Uh, and he goes, 00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:57.420 uh, he goes U -Traum hunting. Jenny is, uh, basically, 00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.420 you know, kicking the walrus in the chest and 00:59:00.420 --> 00:59:06.840 get out and... Okay, baby. Are you okay, babe? 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:09.099 How about you come stay at the lair for a bit? 00:59:09.260 --> 00:59:13.800 We got room. I... She looks back at her broken 00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:22.159 -up stuff. Okay. They're back! And it's Jenny 00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:27.539 and Jay and Sheena and the traitor. Now see this 00:59:27.539 --> 00:59:31.260 corner here? So as we see this bottom panel, 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:33.280 folks, that you're not seeing as we're looking 00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:37.980 through talking about this comic, the evil mutant 00:59:37.980 --> 00:59:41.340 people and then our good guy guys. To the right 00:59:41.340 --> 00:59:43.900 of that is the stairs where the mailboxes are. 00:59:44.019 --> 00:59:48.320 This corner here? I swear that's not, okay, that's 00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:51.219 just a broken piece of wall, but the way it's 00:59:51.219 --> 00:59:53.980 shadowed, I'm like, wouldn't it be nice if a 00:59:53.980 --> 00:59:56.900 mouser just jumped right out of, but it's just 00:59:56.900 --> 00:59:59.820 a broken piece of wall. I know it's not an actual 00:59:59.820 --> 01:00:03.920 place where something could jump out of, but 01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:09.119 like, yeah. So, we get that. We get, bug old 01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:12.750 bandit, I thought we were cool now. Nope, still 01:00:12.750 --> 01:00:18.969 haven't forgotten when you broke my bill. It's 01:00:18.969 --> 01:00:21.909 nothing personal, Jennica. This just isn't your 01:00:21.909 --> 01:00:26.849 turf anymore. That's Constable Jennica. It's 01:00:26.849 --> 01:00:33.070 a police brutality. That's right. Well, you know, 01:00:33.130 --> 01:00:38.239 pawn, brack, balk. Sorry I'm late, Jenny. Oh, 01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:42.900 sorry there. Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha. Ha, 01:00:42.900 --> 01:00:49.480 ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh, who's the babe? Ha, ha, ha, 01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:56.519 ha, ha. Uh -huh. Uh -huh. Yep. Pretty much. Oh, 01:00:56.699 --> 01:01:01.800 God. Class is paid. 101. 101. Your instructor 01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:06.800 is Casey Jones. Better late than never, right? 01:01:07.260 --> 01:01:12.940 I like my classic Casey. With Cricket Bat. Uh 01:01:12.940 --> 01:01:16.599 -huh. You know, you gotta understand Crumpet. 01:01:16.659 --> 01:01:19.300 You gotta know Crumpet to understand Cricket. 01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:24.159 Oh, God. Yeah, no, classic Casey is awesome. 01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:27.940 Oh, Casey, that was awesome. Thought you might 01:01:27.940 --> 01:01:30.960 not show up. We're kind of short -staffed, huh? 01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:38.260 I hope he's back in the... I know Casey's going 01:01:38.260 --> 01:01:43.380 through stuff, but from the last trade to this, 01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:50.519 I hope we're back. If he needs whatever mental 01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:54.480 help that he needs, fine, great, get help, Casey, 01:01:54.659 --> 01:01:59.480 but this sure did seem like, like you said, classic 01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:05.599 Casey. He says things are getting pretty hairy 01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:09.760 outside the wall, too. Right now, let's just 01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.679 focus on getting you guys to the bunker, where 01:02:12.679 --> 01:02:15.239 it'll be safe at least until we can figure this 01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:19.260 all out. Meanwhile, the stone -eyed fox is still 01:02:19.260 --> 01:02:27.730 hanging out. That traitor. Yep. He's still hanging 01:02:27.730 --> 01:02:34.989 out. Donnie gets home and yells at Siri. He doesn't 01:02:34.989 --> 01:02:41.090 yell at her, but he yells her name. Oh, you're 01:02:41.090 --> 01:02:46.369 safe. I'm doing my job. Good work, Siri. Thanks. 01:02:46.469 --> 01:02:49.110 I was worried. Colonel Shrell has ordered my 01:02:49.110 --> 01:02:52.050 death. I understand. I must take extra care to 01:02:52.050 --> 01:02:55.360 stay hidden. Exactly. The Ultrons will find you 01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:57.780 eventually, Ciri, but I'm going to protect you. 01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:04.320 So we get that. Donnie's back on Cobbs, and Jennica's 01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:10.639 like, Where you been, Donnie? He goes, Sorry 01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:13.559 about that, Jen. Had to check on Angel, but she's 01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:16.059 okay. Thanks for helping out, Casey. No problem, 01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:19.039 man. Just doing my part. I love seeing all these 01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.659 characters work together. This is so good. I 01:03:22.659 --> 01:03:26.320 looked at the list of all of those editors at 01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:28.679 the beginning and was a little critical of how 01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:30.500 many editors it takes to do a book. But then, 01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:34.179 you know, at this point in the book, you're realizing, 01:03:34.340 --> 01:03:36.059 oh, man, they're juggling like three different 01:03:36.059 --> 01:03:40.059 titles. And all of these characters and the timing 01:03:40.059 --> 01:03:41.900 needs to work out and they need to come back 01:03:41.900 --> 01:03:45.199 at the right time into the story. So, yeah, that's 01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:48.400 why it takes an army to fight a war in a comic 01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:51.320 book. Absolutely. Takes an army, absolutely. 01:03:51.739 --> 01:03:53.840 Hey, at least we got the general back in charge. 01:03:55.139 --> 01:03:57.239 That's what I'm saying. If Bobby were doing the 01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:01.519 book now, he'd have done it all by himself. Wait 01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:08.960 a minute here. So Donnie's back at the wheel. 01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:12.380 Donnie says, Lita, can you help me move some 01:04:12.380 --> 01:04:14.980 things in here from my lab? I need to do some 01:04:14.980 --> 01:04:17.139 experiments. I don't want to leave the cubs again. 01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:23.760 Lita says, okay. Yeah, that's carbon. Okay. You 01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.679 gonna experiment with this thing? Careful. That's 01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:30.860 an anti -grav gauntlet. I'm not sure what I'm 01:04:30.860 --> 01:04:33.900 gonna do with it yet. We have Donatello about 01:04:33.900 --> 01:04:39.139 to do some ninjutsu with his little gem here. 01:04:40.170 --> 01:04:43.530 So he's going to practice that. We go back to 01:04:43.530 --> 01:04:47.269 Jenica, Sheena, and all of them, and this is 01:04:47.269 --> 01:04:50.949 where we see the fox dude with the Terminator 01:04:50.949 --> 01:04:54.710 eye. Nope, that's not going to end well. Another 01:04:54.710 --> 01:04:57.570 beautiful... Was that... Yep, Eastman and... 01:04:57.570 --> 01:05:01.429 Eastman and Sophie. Yep. Gorgeous! Yeah, so good. 01:05:01.610 --> 01:05:06.110 So good. And this is the next one. This is Farrow 01:05:06.110 --> 01:05:12.900 Pay with... Bonnie and Angel on this cover. Oh, 01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:20.119 this reminds me of issue... What? I went and 01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:21.739 looked at the original issue when I saw this 01:05:21.739 --> 01:05:23.079 cover, and I'm like, wait, didn't they already 01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:29.460 do this? Issue 34, right? Man, if you know that 01:05:29.460 --> 01:05:31.260 off the top of your head, that's impressive, 01:05:31.380 --> 01:05:36.449 but take your word for it. We're going to create 01:05:36.449 --> 01:05:38.190 an edit point right here, folks, and I'm going 01:05:38.190 --> 01:05:41.510 to go look because I want to make sure. Well, 01:05:41.610 --> 01:05:46.250 I mean, you say, oh, yeah, that's issue 34. And 01:05:46.250 --> 01:05:48.710 I'm looking at the issue I just put face down 01:05:48.710 --> 01:05:50.530 on the stack over there that I just finished 01:05:50.530 --> 01:05:52.469 reading with you, and I don't remember what's 01:05:52.469 --> 01:05:58.269 on the cover of that. We join our turtles in 01:05:58.269 --> 01:06:01.710 progress, as was previously stated. Apparently, 01:06:01.710 --> 01:06:04.320 I have. Really great memory when it comes to 01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:12.099 comic book covers, folks. So, issue 135 of TMNT 01:06:12.099 --> 01:06:18.679 Reborn. This is volume 7, Isolation. This is 01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:22.360 issue 135 that we're starting here. On the cover 01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:29.559 is Johnny and Angel. And it looks like something 01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:33.360 is targeting them. And before that impromptu 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:37.500 break, I had said to you, Mr. Joe Reed, sir, 01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:39.500 I'm like, wait, this reminds me of a cover they 01:06:39.500 --> 01:06:43.159 did way back when. And literally, when I say 01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:47.880 way back when, folks, I'm talking like issue 01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:56.219 34. Issue 34 was May of 2014. That was 11 years 01:06:56.219 --> 01:07:00.820 ago. And it's not even that you remembered the 01:07:00.820 --> 01:07:04.679 cover, because I remembered two covers that were 01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:08.699 similar, but you knew the issue number. That's 01:07:08.699 --> 01:07:16.260 the crazy part. Yeah. So, issue 34, this was 01:07:16.260 --> 01:07:24.699 right at the... It was right at the start of... 01:07:24.699 --> 01:07:28.719 No, it was the tail end. It was the next arc. 01:07:28.940 --> 01:07:31.780 It was right after Northampton. It was right 01:07:31.780 --> 01:07:34.340 after Northampton. It was the second issue of 01:07:34.340 --> 01:07:37.340 the next new arc. This was the arc leading up 01:07:37.340 --> 01:07:39.920 to Shredder and Krang meeting for the first time 01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:43.900 in issue 37 in August of 2014. And the only reason 01:07:43.900 --> 01:07:45.500 why I know that information off the top of my 01:07:45.500 --> 01:07:49.780 head is number one. you know, 37 in a row, but 01:07:49.780 --> 01:07:51.739 I'm actually looking at the webpage where it 01:07:51.739 --> 01:07:54.340 says August of 2014 and wherever it has all the 01:07:54.340 --> 01:07:56.159 covers on it. But it's one of those things where 01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:59.340 that was obviously a landmark thing of shredder 01:07:59.340 --> 01:08:01.360 and crank meeting. But you had mentioned, you 01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:04.719 had mentioned issue number six of, of the thing 01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:09.539 where it was the destroy, which was, I believe 01:08:09.539 --> 01:08:13.619 was this mousers or metal head. It has, it's 01:08:13.619 --> 01:08:17.720 so early. It has to be mousers. Okay. I do not 01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.300 remember that four back. I mean, I remember that 01:08:20.300 --> 01:08:23.920 four back. I'd have to check, but another red 01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:27.140 cover with turtles on the cover, and this is... 01:08:27.140 --> 01:08:30.060 But yeah, definitely both of those covers kind 01:08:30.060 --> 01:08:33.020 of got a little callback here. Gave us a flashback, 01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:42.659 at least. So, looking at... Go ahead. Nope, that 01:08:42.659 --> 01:08:50.550 was it. Okay. That was that. So just briefly, 01:08:50.569 --> 01:08:53.449 since I'm on the page anyway, looking at the 01:08:53.449 --> 01:08:57.270 cool thing about Comicvine is I can find covers 01:08:57.270 --> 01:09:00.949 for almost anything that I need to find. And 01:09:00.949 --> 01:09:04.689 if you actually click on said cover, it will 01:09:04.689 --> 01:09:09.060 take you to the page for that. set issue and 01:09:09.060 --> 01:09:12.619 any variant covers and sometimes there are usually 01:09:12.619 --> 01:09:15.220 IDW does three variant covers in general but 01:09:15.220 --> 01:09:17.680 sometimes with certain issues they'll do more 01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:19.760 but they also give you all the other information 01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:23.659 as far as like the creative team and the synopsis 01:09:23.659 --> 01:09:29.800 or the description etc etc etc and for issue 01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:33.079 6 it was a new year and the TMNT and Master Splinter 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:35.840 look to the future even as they struggle to come 01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:38.829 to grips with Past mysteries. Meanwhile, General 01:09:38.829 --> 01:09:41.909 Krang grows increasingly impatient with Baxter 01:09:41.909 --> 01:09:44.909 Stockman, who is prepared to unleash a horrific 01:09:44.909 --> 01:09:49.970 new weapon. Yeah, it was the Mousers. The only 01:09:49.970 --> 01:09:52.130 thing they have not done to Baxter Stockman in 01:09:52.130 --> 01:09:54.770 all these years later, folks, is they have not 01:09:54.770 --> 01:09:56.770 turned him into a fly yet. They've done everything 01:09:56.770 --> 01:10:00.250 else. So yeah, it was the Mousers. Absolutely. 01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:05.819 It was the Mousers. Alrighty then, though. We 01:10:05.819 --> 01:10:11.960 have, as Joe said, the next chapter in the isolation 01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:19.100 trade paperback, Volume 7 of TMNT Reborn. We 01:10:19.100 --> 01:10:23.819 start with the inventor. We start with Mr. Donatello. 01:10:24.699 --> 01:10:27.079 Who's been carrying this book on his back. No 01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:32.350 wonder his shell is sore. Yeah. All the other 01:10:32.350 --> 01:10:34.550 turtles are off in their own series for a little 01:10:34.550 --> 01:10:39.029 bit here. Well, OK, I wouldn't say he was carrying 01:10:39.029 --> 01:10:43.010 the entire book on his back. I mean, there is 01:10:43.010 --> 01:10:46.989 the guy in the chair. He totally helped everybody. 01:10:47.689 --> 01:10:53.930 That's true. But come on now. And so, Donnie, 01:10:53.930 --> 01:10:56.909 it looks like he's trying to hook up one of the 01:10:56.909 --> 01:10:58.890 little crystals that they made on their vision 01:10:58.890 --> 01:11:02.829 quest with Orokosaki to. Herald's anti -gravity 01:11:02.829 --> 01:11:08.770 gauntlet. And you know, if I were him, you're 01:11:08.770 --> 01:11:14.029 given this relic of mystical energy and he's 01:11:14.029 --> 01:11:18.229 over here taking shavings off of it and picking 01:11:18.229 --> 01:11:20.449 it apart. I'd be a little afraid to do that. 01:11:23.109 --> 01:11:27.539 But it's not. He knows what he's doing. I don't 01:11:27.539 --> 01:11:29.840 even know if he knows what he's doing here, but 01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:35.840 it's Donatello. Wise men say the only difference 01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:38.619 between science and screwing around is writing 01:11:38.619 --> 01:11:41.500 down what you learn. So Donnie's definitely doing 01:11:41.500 --> 01:11:48.699 science. Yes. You said it better than I was going 01:11:48.699 --> 01:11:51.300 to say. And I was going to say, it's Donnie, 01:11:51.300 --> 01:11:55.359 man. Yes, he is. He has a new appreciation for 01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:58.380 the mysticism of it all. But he's Donatello. 01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:03.579 He does machines like, you know. And that is 01:12:03.579 --> 01:12:06.020 a this is a really interesting thing. Later in 01:12:06.020 --> 01:12:09.020 the book, they they drop some stuff that kind 01:12:09.020 --> 01:12:12.479 of made me go, oh, wait a minute. But Donnie 01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:16.650 is of the mind that magic is just. sufficiently 01:12:16.650 --> 01:12:19.489 advanced technology that you can't explain it 01:12:19.489 --> 01:12:20.970 anymore because we don't have the words for it. 01:12:21.149 --> 01:12:24.609 So he's determined that if he does enough experimenting 01:12:24.609 --> 01:12:27.210 and if he pokes and prods at it, that eventually 01:12:27.210 --> 01:12:29.770 he'll understand it and then it'll become science. 01:12:30.289 --> 01:12:32.630 Yeah, it becomes science and he can have words 01:12:32.630 --> 01:12:36.189 for it, like the evil remote. It's mystical energy. 01:12:36.470 --> 01:12:38.829 And later in the book, they do an interesting 01:12:38.829 --> 01:12:41.750 job of explaining it in a scientific way, which 01:12:41.750 --> 01:12:47.520 I thought was fun. We'll get there. And Donnie 01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:53.380 is... I would say all four of the Turtle Brothers 01:12:53.380 --> 01:12:56.279 are like this, but you look at the stern look 01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:59.199 on his face. He's giving Ciri a stern look in 01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:02.159 this panel, but he's not upset at her. It's a 01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:05.779 determined stern look. I won't let anything happen 01:13:05.779 --> 01:13:08.699 to you, Regenta Ciri. I won't let anything happen 01:13:08.699 --> 01:13:15.130 to anyone. Think about... God damn it. why is 01:13:15.130 --> 01:13:16.869 it every time we do one of these episodes of 01:13:16.869 --> 01:13:19.850 this podcast for this specific series, I constantly 01:13:19.850 --> 01:13:22.630 break down, especially with Donnie. You think 01:13:22.630 --> 01:13:25.270 about what he's been through throughout this 01:13:25.270 --> 01:13:30.449 whole damn series, but you know, like the determination 01:13:30.449 --> 01:13:35.090 of this frigging turtle man, this is why not 01:13:35.090 --> 01:13:38.170 just this specific version of him, but In all 01:13:38.170 --> 01:13:42.029 versions, Donnie will always be my, to quote 01:13:42.029 --> 01:13:47.609 Jack Palance from Batman 89, my number one guy. 01:13:48.590 --> 01:13:51.829 Always why Donnie is my number one, Mikey's my 01:13:51.829 --> 01:13:54.489 number two, and then Raph and Leo kind of take, 01:13:54.590 --> 01:13:57.829 you know, three. Leo, honestly, most of the time 01:13:57.829 --> 01:14:02.670 will end up in fourth place because Leo, I don't 01:14:02.670 --> 01:14:07.079 know. Nobody likes the oldest brother bossing 01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:11.859 everybody around, right? Yeah, I don't. Leo is 01:14:11.859 --> 01:14:13.920 my favorite, and I think it's just because back 01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:16.460 in the day he had Blue and he was the sword guy. 01:14:16.659 --> 01:14:21.220 But as I've gotten older, the leader, the stoic 01:14:21.220 --> 01:14:25.840 character, and kind of, in other words, the boring, 01:14:25.899 --> 01:14:29.260 predictable character has become my favorite 01:14:29.260 --> 01:14:33.560 in just about every one of the possible. worlds 01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:37.380 where there's archetypes in charge of a series. 01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:40.720 The boring leader, the Boy Scout, is mine. Superman, 01:14:41.100 --> 01:14:44.600 hard to do anything with because he's always 01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:49.279 moral and in the right. He doesn't struggle with 01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:54.420 anything like the other superheroes do. And Leo 01:14:54.420 --> 01:15:02.109 is stoic. And I mean, Leo has his moments. And 01:15:02.109 --> 01:15:04.630 they've done a real good job making a Boy Scout 01:15:04.630 --> 01:15:07.829 interesting. Oh, yeah, no, absolutely. No, and, 01:15:07.949 --> 01:15:12.829 like, but, you know, take the original things 01:15:12.829 --> 01:15:16.970 that David Wise did with those four brothers. 01:15:17.350 --> 01:15:20.270 David Wise has been gone a number of years now, 01:15:20.369 --> 01:15:23.250 folks. I believe he passed in 2010. David Wise 01:15:23.250 --> 01:15:25.369 was one of the original writers on the original 01:15:25.369 --> 01:15:28.069 cartoon. And, look, no disrespect to Mr. Eastman 01:15:28.069 --> 01:15:30.350 and Mr. Laird who created the characters, but... 01:15:31.819 --> 01:15:38.420 Leonardo leads. Donatello does machines. Raph 01:15:38.420 --> 01:15:42.340 is rude, but whatever. Michelangelo is a party 01:15:42.340 --> 01:15:48.560 dude. You take those basis of those four examples 01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:51.779 of characteristics and then you expand on them. 01:15:52.079 --> 01:15:56.159 And IDW, as always in every episode, you guys 01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:58.770 are... probably sick of hearing us say it, but 01:15:58.770 --> 01:16:00.909 we're going to say it every friggin' time. Whoops, 01:16:00.970 --> 01:16:04.310 I forgot to turn my thing off here. It's important 01:16:04.310 --> 01:16:09.989 to note David Wise's contribution. When you get 01:16:09.989 --> 01:16:11.609 around someday to reading the Mirage series, 01:16:11.869 --> 01:16:16.909 they are not unique characters for a while. They 01:16:16.909 --> 01:16:20.010 don't start to differentiate themselves until, 01:16:20.270 --> 01:16:23.189 I don't know, 10 issues, 12 issues into the book, 01:16:23.229 --> 01:16:26.350 really. And I think and then David Wise like 01:16:26.350 --> 01:16:28.569 took the seeds that were beginning to get laid 01:16:28.569 --> 01:16:30.409 down in those early issues and then turn them 01:16:30.409 --> 01:16:33.470 into the archetypes, which I mean, kids need 01:16:33.470 --> 01:16:35.189 archetypes when you're watching something like 01:16:35.189 --> 01:16:40.010 that. Um, and, and yeah, that's really good. 01:16:40.310 --> 01:16:43.710 It's man. I have underestimated his contribution, 01:16:44.010 --> 01:16:49.569 um, which now I need to rethink that. And yep. 01:16:49.930 --> 01:16:54.979 Yep. Absolutely. Oh, oops. I am. you have the 01:16:54.979 --> 01:16:57.699 books in front of you, right? Yep. Okay. Okay. 01:16:57.760 --> 01:16:59.399 I was going to say, I forgot to do screen share 01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:03.840 this time around, but yeah, so we, so Sheena 01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:10.439 and Lita show up and along with Jay and trader 01:17:10.439 --> 01:17:13.859 and comments, like, I guess we're locked down 01:17:13.859 --> 01:17:17.220 now. So you guys got just here, just here, just 01:17:17.220 --> 01:17:21.399 in time. Nobody in or out. Bad guys could get 01:17:21.399 --> 01:17:28.449 in. Lita says. Is this everyone who's down here? 01:17:28.689 --> 01:17:31.810 Nah, there's Donatello and Siri, too, but they're 01:17:31.810 --> 01:17:35.270 busy in Donnie's lab. Don't forget Pepperoni 01:17:35.270 --> 01:17:40.670 and Clunk. I guess Clunk is the cat. I don't... 01:17:40.670 --> 01:17:45.310 Hey, name dropped him. Yeah, I know, but, like, 01:17:45.310 --> 01:17:50.890 I don't remember... I don't... I don't know. 01:17:51.010 --> 01:17:56.689 Like, I remember... I know I'm confusing this 01:17:56.689 --> 01:17:58.689 with the 2012 series because that's where this 01:17:58.689 --> 01:18:00.909 reference I'm going to make comes from. I thought 01:18:00.909 --> 01:18:03.229 Clunk was the Ice Cream Kitty, but the Ice Cream 01:18:03.229 --> 01:18:06.449 Kitty is from the 2012 series, I think. Yeah, 01:18:06.470 --> 01:18:09.010 and I don't know that they ever called Ice Cream 01:18:09.010 --> 01:18:11.489 Kitty Clunk. I don't remember. No, I don't think 01:18:11.489 --> 01:18:16.989 so. I think the first time Clunk ever shows up 01:18:16.989 --> 01:18:21.449 is in Northampton. It was when they were up there. 01:18:21.930 --> 01:18:25.659 It was a barn cat. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. 01:18:27.020 --> 01:18:30.220 It's been around since the Mirage days. Yeah, 01:18:30.220 --> 01:18:35.590 yeah. I just don't remember where, like I said, 01:18:35.630 --> 01:18:39.670 I think it was Northampton, but again, I could 01:18:39.670 --> 01:18:42.550 completely... Look, folks, I can remember issue 01:18:42.550 --> 01:18:45.710 numbers and covers from 11 years ago sometimes 01:18:45.710 --> 01:18:48.789 on a good day. On a bad day, I can't remember 01:18:48.789 --> 01:18:51.270 what issue or what story arc the cat came from. 01:18:51.329 --> 01:18:53.869 The cat could have come from outer space or something. 01:18:53.970 --> 01:18:57.189 I don't know. He didn't, but I'm pretty sure 01:18:57.189 --> 01:19:01.460 of that. But again, I could be wrong. So we get 01:19:01.460 --> 01:19:05.819 a couple of pages of a spy dude here trying to 01:19:05.819 --> 01:19:09.300 stalk Siri and trying to choke her out. Luckily, 01:19:09.539 --> 01:19:17.600 Carmen catches up to them. Oh, God. This guy. 01:19:18.380 --> 01:19:23.140 He goes into the bathroom to whatever. We get 01:19:23.140 --> 01:19:27.159 back to Jennica fighting. Who's she fighting 01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:31.859 here? Kick and punch or whatever their names 01:19:31.859 --> 01:19:39.000 are. Oh, she actually says what their names are. 01:19:39.060 --> 01:19:47.119 Laurel, Felix, stay down. A cat? You know, it 01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:49.640 would have been funnier if it was Laurel, Hardy, 01:19:49.819 --> 01:19:55.680 stay down. Yes, folks, I'm old. I make old jokes. 01:19:55.779 --> 01:20:01.899 Sorry. And then, backup arrives. Hey, Jenny, 01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:08.159 where you been? Around. Oh, man, the two of them 01:20:08.159 --> 01:20:13.260 back in action together? That's awesome. I actually 01:20:13.260 --> 01:20:18.720 have that action figure. Nice. Recently. Very 01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:21.479 cool, very cool. Very awesome, very awesome. 01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:24.819 But then, she says, Jennica says, hey, listen, 01:20:24.939 --> 01:20:27.369 about the Shredder stuff. I don't care. I don't 01:20:27.369 --> 01:20:29.289 want to talk about it. Nope, she don't want to 01:20:29.289 --> 01:20:32.350 talk about it. Okay, let's handle the ass clowns 01:20:32.350 --> 01:20:34.949 again. Absolutely. We get back to Donnie. He 01:20:34.949 --> 01:20:39.909 is working feverishly. What the... And this is 01:20:39.909 --> 01:20:44.569 where he figures out the mysticism of a pen to 01:20:44.569 --> 01:20:47.270 the paper, or the pencil to the paper with the 01:20:47.270 --> 01:20:50.390 mysticism and the writing and the whatever. And 01:20:50.390 --> 01:21:01.079 as I was reading this, this whole... I want to 01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:02.819 make sure I get this page number right. When 01:21:02.819 --> 01:21:06.800 we get back to his lab, in the trade, folks, 01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:12.920 in Volume 7, Isolation, Reborn, Volume 7, Isolation, 01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:16.640 page 56. You start on page 56, and I'm just going 01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:26.880 to go really quickly here. Ninja pizza? Pizza 01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:30.899 that vanished quickly without trace. 56 to 59. 01:21:31.060 --> 01:21:35.939 These three pages minus the little vignette with 01:21:35.939 --> 01:21:41.220 Alopex and Jenica where Donnie calls them. Because 01:21:41.220 --> 01:21:46.279 he calls them and says, Jenny, come in. Get to 01:21:46.279 --> 01:21:48.539 City Hall immediately. On my way. What's up? 01:21:48.659 --> 01:21:52.239 The doppelgangers are there right now. And they 01:21:52.239 --> 01:21:56.140 have Sally. alopex and jennica in an amazing 01:21:56.140 --> 01:21:59.760 piece of running art and jumping art are on their 01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:03.699 way uh to to city hall but then we get the next 01:22:03.699 --> 01:22:06.560 page where donnie is still tinkering this is 01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:11.619 the page where i'm just like okay they've turned 01:22:11.619 --> 01:22:18.609 him into tony stark As soon as I read, as soon 01:22:18.609 --> 01:22:21.369 as I saw this page, I didn't even need to like, 01:22:21.449 --> 01:22:23.770 I didn't even zoom in on it. I didn't even read 01:22:23.770 --> 01:22:26.510 what he, I didn't even read the words. As soon 01:22:26.510 --> 01:22:30.149 as I saw the bottom right -hand corner of the 01:22:30.149 --> 01:22:32.670 page, I didn't even like, I saw the giant green 01:22:32.670 --> 01:22:36.489 text and saw the giant green shiny stuff. And 01:22:36.489 --> 01:22:39.090 I saw his hands out pushing outward towards the 01:22:39.090 --> 01:22:41.979 sky. And I'm like, They just gave Donatello a 01:22:41.979 --> 01:22:45.539 Tony Stark moment of when Tony created vibranium. 01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:51.800 I'm like, you magnificent bastards. This is amazing. 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:59.239 I recognized that posture and that gesture. taking 01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:02.619 out the atoms and moving them aside and get rid 01:23:02.619 --> 01:23:05.100 of this bat now and then expand it. And he's 01:23:05.100 --> 01:23:07.119 like claps and scoots back in his chair with 01:23:07.119 --> 01:23:10.359 his hands up. So, and Donnie's been doing this. 01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:12.399 He's kind of creating these Dr. Strange like 01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:15.039 runes with the pencil, this crystal joined with 01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:18.880 the pencil, which is a throwback to an early 01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:22.789 Mirage issue where, uh, Jack Kirby. I don't think 01:23:22.789 --> 01:23:24.449 they call him Jack Kirby, but it's Jack Kirby 01:23:24.449 --> 01:23:27.289 with a magic pencil, does some drawing. And then 01:23:27.289 --> 01:23:29.449 that magic pencil comes back way near the end 01:23:29.449 --> 01:23:31.449 of the series, I think in the Tales of the Turtles 01:23:31.449 --> 01:23:36.069 thing. So the crystal pencil, crystal -powered 01:23:36.069 --> 01:23:40.409 pencil that brings drawings to life is a piece 01:23:40.409 --> 01:23:43.689 of turtle lore. But he's using it to draw the 01:23:43.689 --> 01:23:45.930 runes that he hasn't been able to figure out, 01:23:46.029 --> 01:23:49.819 and now he can see how all of it is... is happening, 01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:51.920 and it looks like he can control space and time 01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:55.539 with his magic runes and energy that he can't 01:23:55.539 --> 01:23:59.819 explain yet. No Infinity Gauntlet needed, Tony. 01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:13.000 Stones. What for we need your stones for? We 01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:20.970 get back to Jenica and Alopex. They are in the 01:24:20.970 --> 01:24:27.229 city hall, the jail area, where these imposters 01:24:27.229 --> 01:24:33.609 are. Another step towards mutant victory. Behind 01:24:33.609 --> 01:24:39.130 the cage! Quiet, you. Join us, mutant town. Man 01:24:39.130 --> 01:24:42.850 Ray will lead the mutantimals to power. You're 01:24:42.850 --> 01:24:49.829 not fooling any. Ninja Star. This whole thing 01:24:49.829 --> 01:24:58.229 is fake. Bunch of posers. And she stomps right 01:24:58.229 --> 01:25:04.970 on his hand. Oh, God. Definitely not my Raph, 01:25:05.210 --> 01:25:09.689 says Alopex. No. What the hell is this all about? 01:25:10.369 --> 01:25:13.229 Fall back, fall back. And this is where I said, 01:25:13.250 --> 01:25:14.970 I think it was earlier in this episode, I had 01:25:14.970 --> 01:25:19.479 my rant about these characters. Mm -hmm. And 01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:22.319 this is where I went searching, and I actually 01:25:22.319 --> 01:25:28.619 pulled it up on the fandom, turtlepedia .fandom 01:25:28.619 --> 01:25:34.720 .com. These are the Gang of Four from IDW. And 01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:37.399 yes, folks, I know I'm reading directly from 01:25:37.399 --> 01:25:39.539 a Wikipedia article. Oh my god, it's the end 01:25:39.539 --> 01:25:41.680 of the friggin' world, but you guys know how 01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:44.939 we do things around here. In the IDW continuity, 01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:47.979 there is a gang of four mercenaries who work 01:25:47.979 --> 01:25:50.779 for the Null Group as elite soldiers enhanced 01:25:50.779 --> 01:25:54.939 with cybernetic implants. They are human -born 01:25:54.939 --> 01:25:59.500 mutants who can use machines to regulate the 01:25:59.500 --> 01:26:02.600 mutagen levels in their blood. In their blood? 01:26:02.840 --> 01:26:07.430 Wow. In their bodies. Yeah. allowing them to 01:26:07.430 --> 01:26:10.890 shift between human and mutant form at will. 01:26:11.029 --> 01:26:17.229 Their call signs are Dead Aim, Fist, Lynch, and 01:26:17.229 --> 01:26:22.590 Waster, with Colonel Fist as commander. I don't 01:26:22.590 --> 01:26:26.369 think we've seen them in this issue. I don't 01:26:26.369 --> 01:26:30.529 think we've seen them, how to say, they don't 01:26:30.529 --> 01:26:34.250 get unmasked so far that I have seen. No, so 01:26:34.250 --> 01:26:37.239 far they have appeared. Yeah, so far they have 01:26:37.239 --> 01:26:41.600 appeared in Armageddon Game 1, TMNT 133, Armageddon 01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:49.140 Game 2, The Alliance, number one? Mm -hmm. And 01:26:49.140 --> 01:26:53.180 Armageddon Game 4, and then Free Comic Book Day 01:26:53.180 --> 01:26:59.380 2022. So why do we see them here if they don't... 01:26:59.380 --> 01:27:09.750 If this is 135... Huh. Interesting. Either way, 01:27:09.909 --> 01:27:19.250 I don't know. But their debut as the Null Turtles 01:27:19.250 --> 01:27:23.569 was in the Free Conflict Day 2022 issue that 01:27:23.569 --> 01:27:28.470 we discussed. Like I said earlier, I wish there 01:27:28.470 --> 01:27:33.350 was... Just like Donatello in TMNT 2, I wish 01:27:33.350 --> 01:27:36.149 there was more to them than just being a bunch 01:27:36.149 --> 01:27:40.289 of mercenaries from Null. That's my only complaint 01:27:40.289 --> 01:27:44.989 about them. I just wish it was a better storyline 01:27:44.989 --> 01:27:48.050 than just four mercenaries dressed up as turtles. 01:27:50.170 --> 01:27:53.270 instilled some political strife with the Mutant 01:27:53.270 --> 01:27:57.409 Town. Giving Baxter a reason to just shut down 01:27:57.409 --> 01:28:00.550 and come down on Mutant Town militaristically. 01:28:00.869 --> 01:28:07.170 Yeah. And Null is facilitating that. Yep. And 01:28:07.170 --> 01:28:13.409 as the four disguised mercenaries, as the four 01:28:13.409 --> 01:28:16.810 white turtles, quote -unquote, go deeper into 01:28:16.810 --> 01:28:24.260 the headquarters here, We come up with Raph and 01:28:24.260 --> 01:28:29.699 Hub. Where do you think you're going? Oh, God. 01:28:29.979 --> 01:28:33.319 Okay, I know what they're called. The Weasels. 01:28:34.619 --> 01:28:37.979 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know. No, I know, 01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:41.460 I know. But, like, where do you think you're 01:28:41.460 --> 01:28:45.039 going? I know it's Raph and it's Hub, and they're 01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:52.159 with, and my first thought was, babies. You turn 01:28:52.159 --> 01:29:00.760 them into babies. First Shredder, now Hob. Alopex? 01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:05.659 Al, we... And Alopex isn't having any of it. 01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:10.419 She's done. I am so done with all of this. But 01:29:10.419 --> 01:29:14.819 first of all, Raph is back in red. No more Constable 01:29:14.819 --> 01:29:18.000 Raph. And I like how Jenny, I don't know if I 01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:20.300 mentioned this before or when Jenny took over 01:29:20.300 --> 01:29:24.300 as Constable, I like how she didn't change her 01:29:24.300 --> 01:29:28.720 bandana. She just put on the quote -unquote police 01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:31.819 gear or the SWAT gear or whatever you want to 01:29:31.819 --> 01:29:34.619 call it. She didn't have to change. I understand 01:29:34.619 --> 01:29:41.300 why Raph did, and that's fine. Yeah, no. Alopex 01:29:41.300 --> 01:29:44.000 isn't having any of this, so Alopex runs off. 01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:51.420 We get back to the TV room with Carmen and Jay 01:29:51.420 --> 01:29:56.859 and the traitor. We get Siri. We get Sheena. 01:29:56.939 --> 01:30:02.479 We get Pepperoni and Lita. They're all playing 01:30:02.479 --> 01:30:07.260 video games, and Pepperoni... walks off and series 01:30:07.260 --> 01:30:13.960 like pepperoni come back pepperoni and she goes 01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:18.300 oh the the the the traitor dude actually does 01:30:18.300 --> 01:30:23.260 try to get siri here and uh he grabs her by the 01:30:23.260 --> 01:30:26.920 throat and pepperoni leaps up and attacks him 01:30:27.659 --> 01:30:30.140 She basically bites him right in the neck, practically. 01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:36.399 And he bites her back. And... Oh, man. Pepperoni. 01:30:36.779 --> 01:30:42.359 Oh, no! I called one of the weasels pepperoni, 01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:44.939 but no, that's... Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah, no, 01:30:44.939 --> 01:30:52.060 no, no. Oh, no. Oh, boy. It's a good thing Raph 01:30:52.060 --> 01:30:56.939 isn't there, because... That guy would have been... 01:30:57.050 --> 01:30:59.210 I know turtles are not supposed to kill, but 01:30:59.210 --> 01:31:01.329 that guy would have been really freaking hurt. 01:31:03.069 --> 01:31:08.909 So, Lena, go get Donnie. I'll go get Donnie. 01:31:11.210 --> 01:31:15.529 Okay, how the hell do you do that? You did that 01:31:15.529 --> 01:31:17.909 in one of the other records, and I'm like, what 01:31:17.909 --> 01:31:24.069 girl joined the podcast? I never... I practiced 01:31:24.069 --> 01:31:26.390 every day from when my voice actually sounded 01:31:26.390 --> 01:31:29.449 like that. And, you know, if you keep that muscle, 01:31:29.689 --> 01:31:32.810 it never goes away. I freak people out. Yeah. 01:31:32.890 --> 01:31:35.029 You freaked me out in the entity in one of the 01:31:35.029 --> 01:31:36.770 other episodes. I'm like, wait a minute. What 01:31:36.770 --> 01:31:41.210 the hell? I invited my wife to the podcast. She 01:31:41.210 --> 01:31:48.470 loves turtles. I'm sure. I'm sure she does. She 01:31:48.470 --> 01:31:50.829 sounds just like this, too. This is my wife's 01:31:50.829 --> 01:31:55.880 voice. I mean, yes, anyway. You're lying, son 01:31:55.880 --> 01:32:02.720 of a bitch. So, yeah, we get the wolf cat, or 01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:07.020 wolf whatever he is, and he's about ready to 01:32:07.020 --> 01:32:15.859 kill Ciri, and yeah. Oh, man, and then when they 01:32:15.859 --> 01:32:19.680 pan to Donnie, he's responding to a problem that 01:32:21.849 --> 01:32:24.390 angels having and like, Oh, we got a problem 01:32:24.390 --> 01:32:26.750 here. Like I got a problem here too. I got a 01:32:26.750 --> 01:32:31.810 problem here. Yeah. Yep. Okay. Hold on. Angel. 01:32:31.890 --> 01:32:40.729 Oh, uncle Donnie. Uh, and, uh, yeah. You're uncle 01:32:40.729 --> 01:32:46.060 Donnie there. Hey. Get away from my friends. 01:32:46.060 --> 01:32:49.800 And he fires the thing. And then it doesn't exactly 01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:53.079 go very well because it doesn't work. And Donnie 01:32:53.079 --> 01:32:59.840 gets hit real bad. Stupid Colin. Why didn't it 01:32:59.840 --> 01:33:03.079 work? What did I do wrong? Oh, geez, Sensei. 01:33:03.079 --> 01:33:12.460 Are you okay? So they go old school. Yeah. Donnie 01:33:12.460 --> 01:33:18.239 handles it quite effectively. Literally. Donnie, 01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:20.100 you knew that was a robot before you did that 01:33:20.100 --> 01:33:22.520 to that guy, right? Yeah. You knew that was a 01:33:22.520 --> 01:33:24.960 robot, right? Yeah. Well, I mean, he can see 01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:28.819 the glowing red stuff coming out of his mouth, 01:33:28.899 --> 01:33:31.920 so I'm pretty sure. I'm going to hope he did. 01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:37.760 Yeah, I knew it was a robot. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, 01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:42.350 so. I understand why this page is the way this 01:33:42.350 --> 01:33:46.130 page is, but I really wanted a bigger splash 01:33:46.130 --> 01:33:52.069 page because I wanted him to insert the stick 01:33:52.069 --> 01:33:59.390 and pole vault over this guy. Basically, stick 01:33:59.390 --> 01:34:05.270 in mouth, pole vault over him. That is what I 01:34:05.270 --> 01:34:07.729 envisioned when he started doing this. I'm like, 01:34:08.220 --> 01:34:20.239 Aw, crap, this page isn't big enough. So, yeah, 01:34:20.460 --> 01:34:27.520 but, um, what the hell was that, Sensei? Long 01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:32.199 story, everyone okay? What is he, an evil cyborg? 01:34:32.260 --> 01:34:36.539 Not exactly, Jay. Don't get so close. It's okay. 01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:42.279 I think he's going to self -destruct. No, he's 01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:52.180 worse. Yes, he's going to terminate. That would 01:34:52.180 --> 01:34:59.520 be a new Trump. That would end my day. That would 01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:03.340 be a terrible time. for this issue to end and 01:35:03.340 --> 01:35:08.539 if I were reading that in the car. Yeah. If you 01:35:08.539 --> 01:35:11.859 were reading that in the car alone in front of 01:35:11.859 --> 01:35:16.300 the comic shop, no. Lock your doors. I was an 01:35:16.300 --> 01:35:20.359 U -Tron the whole time. What happened? But you 01:35:20.359 --> 01:35:23.979 get to turn the page. That's right. That's right. 01:35:24.600 --> 01:35:27.500 I do love the alternate cover. The alternate 01:35:27.500 --> 01:35:34.630 cover for this has got Jennica. And Alopex, absolutely 01:35:34.630 --> 01:35:40.310 love that. That looks so badass. So good. And 01:35:40.310 --> 01:35:47.770 then 136. 136, right? Yeah, 136. It's got Casey 01:35:47.770 --> 01:35:51.029 and Jenny, and it looks like they are fighting 01:35:51.029 --> 01:35:53.789 off a swarm of splinters. And the only reason 01:35:53.789 --> 01:35:55.810 why I say a swarm of splinters is because the... 01:35:55.810 --> 01:35:59.750 Oh, it's a pipe. Okay, at first, before I zoomed 01:35:59.750 --> 01:36:01.590 in on it, I was like, that looks like a rat hand 01:36:01.590 --> 01:36:06.930 and a walking stick. It's a pipe. But yeah, so 01:36:06.930 --> 01:36:10.069 we start where we left off last month. You are 01:36:10.069 --> 01:36:15.369 mine. And the U -tron, or the, yeah, the U -tron. 01:36:15.689 --> 01:36:19.130 See, I'm sitting here trying to judge myself. 01:36:19.149 --> 01:36:21.229 Wait, did I use the right terminology? Oh, shit. 01:36:23.689 --> 01:36:28.699 Crang. Oh, the U -tron. It's trying to do the, 01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:31.399 well, I mean, both moments in the previous book 01:36:31.399 --> 01:36:35.880 and this one here are really channeling Alien, 01:36:36.100 --> 01:36:41.039 like the Uhtram bursts out of this thing's chest 01:36:41.039 --> 01:36:44.939 or back, and then it jumps at Donnie and it tries 01:36:44.939 --> 01:36:47.979 to face hug him as they're all wrestling it away 01:36:47.979 --> 01:36:51.659 from him. Like, ugh, creepy. Yeah. But Jenica, 01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:53.640 not being a character created by Nickelodeon, 01:36:53.720 --> 01:36:56.619 is allowed to save the day with her fist claws. 01:36:57.390 --> 01:37:01.430 sticks it to the wall and it becomes a smear 01:37:01.430 --> 01:37:08.430 of blood. Yes. Smear. Oh God. All as I can. And 01:37:08.430 --> 01:37:14.970 I know this is, uh, uh, get off of him. And you're 01:37:14.970 --> 01:37:17.270 right. That is very, very whatever, but all as 01:37:17.270 --> 01:37:20.090 I can think of it, obviously folks, we know the 01:37:20.090 --> 01:37:23.789 boy scout doesn't kill, but all as I can think 01:37:23.789 --> 01:37:26.390 of is that moment. And I think it's either twilight. 01:37:26.859 --> 01:37:31.199 Part 2 of Justice League. Or maybe it was Justice 01:37:31.199 --> 01:37:34.619 League or was it Superman? There's a scene. No, 01:37:34.619 --> 01:37:36.819 it's Justice League because it's George Newberg 01:37:36.819 --> 01:37:39.960 as voicing Superman. It's not Tim Daly. Where 01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:45.119 he goes, No, Darkseid. The only way you're going 01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:48.420 to be able to get off this rock is to go through 01:37:48.420 --> 01:37:52.260 me. And I'm not going to stop until you're a 01:37:52.260 --> 01:37:57.180 greasy smear on my fist. That's exact. I heard 01:37:57.180 --> 01:37:59.899 your, even though this is Jenica's moment, just 01:37:59.899 --> 01:38:05.979 seeing this with, Oh man, just so cool. So amazingly 01:38:05.979 --> 01:38:10.100 cool. And she just flips him, splats him against 01:38:10.100 --> 01:38:15.399 the wall. Crap. It's still alive. Not for long 01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:20.359 for the herd. And Siri basically stomps out the 01:38:20.359 --> 01:38:26.899 Utram. Krang lookalike brain thing. Everyone... 01:38:26.899 --> 01:38:34.420 What was that noise? That was... Yeah. Jenny, 01:38:35.939 --> 01:38:38.840 you got here just in time. Everybody okay? Yeah, 01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:43.600 thanks. Jenny, that Uhtram almost hit me. He 01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:46.439 was trying to force me to swallow it and become 01:38:46.439 --> 01:38:50.680 its host. So nasty. Angel said there were at 01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:53.180 least five of these guys, which reminds me, I 01:38:53.180 --> 01:38:57.520 need to contact her and... Wait, Jenny, did you 01:38:57.520 --> 01:39:00.340 relock the bunker hatch when you came in? Uh 01:39:00.340 --> 01:39:10.800 -oh. Uh -oh. Uh -oh. We're in trouble. Oh, boy. 01:39:11.260 --> 01:39:14.479 Damn it. Sheena, get everyone to the sewer access 01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:20.979 now, and don't let anyone in. We can't let these 01:39:20.979 --> 01:39:23.899 guys reach the sewer access door, no matter what. 01:39:24.119 --> 01:39:29.220 And it's an all -out brawl. Oh, God, they all 01:39:29.220 --> 01:39:32.220 have red mouths. So they're all robots. Yeah, 01:39:32.220 --> 01:39:34.560 they're all those weird robots. So they're all 01:39:34.560 --> 01:39:37.239 robots. Yeah, all Ultron robots, which means 01:39:37.239 --> 01:39:42.859 everybody dies. Because robots... Means we can 01:39:42.859 --> 01:39:45.420 use our weapons, guys. That's right. That's right. 01:39:45.619 --> 01:39:51.630 Use the weapons. Use the weapons. So in the next 01:39:51.630 --> 01:39:57.750 panel here, you have Siri saying, I know I must 01:39:57.750 --> 01:40:01.189 be kept safe. So that panel there, there's the 01:40:01.189 --> 01:40:04.729 art page right under it where it's Donnie and 01:40:04.729 --> 01:40:08.449 Jennica showing against the Terminator looking 01:40:08.449 --> 01:40:13.149 here. The guy in the middle, I'm like, wow, that 01:40:13.149 --> 01:40:18.390 almost looks like Old Hob mixed with T2. It's 01:40:18.390 --> 01:40:22.189 not, but it looks kind of a little bit. So they'll 01:40:22.189 --> 01:40:25.489 still keep coming after us. We need to cut them 01:40:25.489 --> 01:40:30.869 off at the source or whatever. I don't want to 01:40:30.869 --> 01:40:33.409 use your... Yeah, just get shoved down the stairs, 01:40:33.590 --> 01:40:36.829 decimated, shot at. Like, okay, it's going to 01:40:36.829 --> 01:40:39.890 get to a matter of survival. What is it, last 01:40:39.890 --> 01:40:42.250 stand kind of feeling I'm getting? Very much 01:40:42.250 --> 01:40:46.420 last stand. Why don't we just use your gauntlet 01:40:46.420 --> 01:40:49.819 thingy? Nope, not working yet. Who knows? You 01:40:49.819 --> 01:40:52.560 gotta unlock your power, Donnie. Come on, Donnie, 01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:55.260 you got this. And I don't remember these rules 01:40:55.260 --> 01:40:57.899 about, like, they can only use their magic when 01:40:57.899 --> 01:41:01.260 nobody's looking. I don't even know anything 01:41:01.260 --> 01:41:04.810 about that. Yep. I don't remember Shredder mentioning 01:41:04.810 --> 01:41:07.449 that, but I know that there are more issues in 01:41:07.449 --> 01:41:09.869 between that we're missing. Maybe that comes 01:41:09.869 --> 01:41:12.590 up, but the gauntlet was supposed to be Donnie 01:41:12.590 --> 01:41:14.649 being able to bypass that so he could use it 01:41:14.649 --> 01:41:21.569 anytime. But we'll see what happens. Yeah, man, 01:41:21.609 --> 01:41:23.510 they're barricading themselves into a corner. 01:41:24.329 --> 01:41:30.939 Pretty much. So scary. And, uh, uh, Siri says 01:41:30.939 --> 01:41:34.479 that she will fight. Donnie does the Retsu time 01:41:34.479 --> 01:41:38.220 and space and time. He gets the thing activated. 01:41:39.579 --> 01:41:47.680 And, uh, yeah. Stop, stop. He stops time. All 01:41:47.680 --> 01:41:51.819 right. He stops everybody. Literally. He stops 01:41:51.819 --> 01:41:58.449 everybody besides him and, uh, Carmen. So he 01:41:58.449 --> 01:42:05.270 and Carmen, we get to the future. Carmen, next 01:42:05.270 --> 01:42:07.850 Saturday night, we're going back to the future. 01:42:09.369 --> 01:42:17.390 Oh, God. We're going to find out why Carmen is 01:42:17.390 --> 01:42:19.829 so important someday. So one of these days, yeah. 01:42:20.270 --> 01:42:23.069 And she says in the future, if I remember right, 01:42:23.130 --> 01:42:25.369 this guy makes the big monster thing show up. 01:42:25.689 --> 01:42:27.170 I don't even want to know what the big monster 01:42:27.170 --> 01:42:29.949 thing is. Like, I know we see it. We're looking 01:42:29.949 --> 01:42:32.430 at it right now, but I don't really want to... 01:42:32.430 --> 01:42:43.390 It's a Langolier! Shh! Oh, boy. And we get back 01:42:43.390 --> 01:42:46.189 to Burnout Island. Why didn't we know that these 01:42:46.189 --> 01:42:49.329 turtles had some kind of quantum energy abilities? 01:42:50.319 --> 01:42:52.460 If we need something to sound scientific and 01:42:52.460 --> 01:42:53.960 we don't know what it is, just call it quantum. 01:42:56.159 --> 01:43:02.939 Exactly. So this is an interesting page here 01:43:02.939 --> 01:43:08.039 to me as the Utroms are talking about unidentified 01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:11.699 objects. Incoming bogey, sir. Approaching at 01:43:11.699 --> 01:43:16.180 high rate of speed. ETA 26 minutes. Identification? 01:43:16.659 --> 01:43:20.630 Negative, sir. Could it be the regenta and those 01:43:20.630 --> 01:43:23.590 turtles launching preemptive strike? I don't 01:43:23.590 --> 01:43:27.329 believe so, sir. It's one object with both organic 01:43:27.329 --> 01:43:35.170 and inorganic components. It's him. He knows. 01:43:36.170 --> 01:43:40.789 Leave Montoro with me. We'll meet our visitor 01:43:40.789 --> 01:43:50.779 with full force. Uh -huh. Yep. Metalhead Krang. 01:43:51.500 --> 01:43:55.739 I didn't see that coming. I didn't see that coming 01:43:55.739 --> 01:43:59.399 either, but as I alluded to earlier, going back 01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:03.079 to the past of issue 37 of Shredder and Krang's 01:44:03.079 --> 01:44:07.300 first meeting, it would not be an end run to 01:44:07.300 --> 01:44:12.279 the finale of this era of the book without another 01:44:12.279 --> 01:44:16.579 quote -unquote Shredder and Krang meeting again. 01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:19.939 Even though technically Shirell in this is not 01:44:19.939 --> 01:44:26.060 technically Shredder, obviously. But, yeah. Metalhead 01:44:26.060 --> 01:44:30.720 Krang shows up, and Shirell, Shirell, where are 01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:37.399 you? Right here, General Krang. And, yeah, so 01:44:37.399 --> 01:44:42.229 it's Shirell in his Triceraton body. versus Metalhead, 01:44:42.350 --> 01:44:45.170 Krang. What is the meaning of this? Triceratops 01:44:45.170 --> 01:44:48.430 host? Disgusting. Look at yourselves. You seem 01:44:48.430 --> 01:44:51.750 jealous that you've never thought of it. And 01:44:51.750 --> 01:44:59.670 literally... Exactly. And literally, I just looked 01:44:59.670 --> 01:45:05.369 at the old issue cover of 37. So, issue 37 of 01:45:05.369 --> 01:45:08.479 the series... It has Shredder on the left and 01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:13.800 Krang in his original body. What's his name? 01:45:14.439 --> 01:45:18.800 Yeah, it's General Krang. On the right with the 01:45:18.800 --> 01:45:22.119 Technodrome in the background. And this very 01:45:22.119 --> 01:45:28.340 image has Krang on the left and Shredder on the 01:45:28.340 --> 01:45:34.699 right. That's amazing. They're both in body suits. 01:45:36.369 --> 01:45:41.069 That's hilarious. That's amazing. Shut your mouth, 01:45:41.170 --> 01:45:43.550 Colonel. Now call off your forces. There is much 01:45:43.550 --> 01:45:46.770 bigger plan at play, and I'm in charge here. 01:45:50.250 --> 01:45:54.569 Not anymore, Krang. Stand down, soldiers. That's 01:45:54.569 --> 01:45:57.029 an order. They only take their orders from me. 01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:00.939 You always did put your self -destructive pride 01:46:00.939 --> 01:46:04.340 before the greater picture, Shirell, just like 01:46:04.340 --> 01:46:08.720 with my father. I, General Krang, am your commanding 01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:14.979 officer. God. Really? Are you, though? They are 01:46:14.979 --> 01:46:21.180 like... God, these brains and their stuff. Say 01:46:21.180 --> 01:46:26.000 what you will about Quaid and your own father, 01:46:26.300 --> 01:46:31.029 but... He was right about you. You have never 01:46:31.029 --> 01:46:34.829 been a true leader of the Uhtram people, and 01:46:34.829 --> 01:46:43.310 you never will be. And the fight continues. God, 01:46:43.310 --> 01:46:46.670 that was not where I was expecting this to go. 01:46:47.550 --> 01:46:51.430 Nope. That's a nice little wrench for Shirell. 01:46:51.729 --> 01:46:55.329 Yeah. Slow him down from bothering our boys. 01:46:56.050 --> 01:47:01.729 Absolutely. Very, very well done. Absolutely. 01:47:02.409 --> 01:47:07.529 So we get to the next issue. We start with Jennica 01:47:07.529 --> 01:47:16.829 and Siri. And let's see here. Jennica, the hell 01:47:16.829 --> 01:47:20.829 is this? A portal? Was this supposed to happen? 01:47:21.210 --> 01:47:25.460 What did you do, Donnie? What didn't Donnie do? 01:47:26.479 --> 01:47:30.079 That's the better question, Jenica. What didn't 01:47:30.079 --> 01:47:34.739 Donnie do? Oh, crap, Don. What the hell happened? 01:47:34.920 --> 01:47:38.239 I traveled to the future and saw myself, and 01:47:38.239 --> 01:47:41.779 Donnie, look at me. I think you just froze time. 01:47:44.539 --> 01:47:49.680 Look at Siri and Carmen, and you gotta give the 01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:55.710 magic back, man. Uh, evoke, revoke. So, revoke. 01:47:55.989 --> 01:48:02.390 And time starts. Boom! What was that? Oh, shoot. 01:48:03.210 --> 01:48:09.649 Alright. You alright over there? Yep. That was 01:48:09.649 --> 01:48:12.449 me responding to, like, another thing dropping 01:48:12.449 --> 01:48:14.850 out of the sky for the turtles to have to deal 01:48:14.850 --> 01:48:18.989 with. First it was the regenta, then Krang dropped 01:48:18.989 --> 01:48:22.149 out of the sky for the utroms, and now... Whatever 01:48:22.149 --> 01:48:26.529 this is. Whatever this is. Did my unrevoked magic 01:48:26.529 --> 01:48:30.149 go haywire? Let's investigate first. Come on. 01:48:31.369 --> 01:48:38.390 Oh, that was an actual explosion. Those are Ultram 01:48:38.390 --> 01:48:43.909 ships. I know. Who sent them? It's not a question. 01:48:44.130 --> 01:48:50.079 She phrased that in the form of a question. She's 01:48:50.079 --> 01:48:53.560 like, I know! Who sent them? It's Shrell! Oh 01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:58.399 my god, he's coming for me! And the army, or 01:48:58.399 --> 01:49:00.140 not the army, that's not the army, that's the 01:49:00.140 --> 01:49:03.859 EPF, isn't it? I think it's the EPF. Yeah, they're 01:49:03.859 --> 01:49:07.699 outside, inside or outside the wall. Yep, yep, 01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:10.520 yep. But now they're fighting the Kring. Yeah, 01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:11.819 that's what I'm saying, they're fighting the 01:49:11.819 --> 01:49:14.420 neutrals. I thought they were fighting the mutants 01:49:14.420 --> 01:49:16.710 from the top. I don't know. No, no, no. They're 01:49:16.710 --> 01:49:19.609 fighting... I don't know. So the mutants are... 01:49:19.609 --> 01:49:22.789 The mutants are in the crossfire. That's what 01:49:22.789 --> 01:49:29.210 it is. And they're fighting the Krang. See? Did 01:49:29.210 --> 01:49:35.789 it again. Donnie, where are you? No! Raph? Oh, 01:49:35.789 --> 01:49:42.220 well, well. Look who it is. Three out of five 01:49:42.220 --> 01:49:44.439 turtles back. Getting easier to carry the book. 01:49:44.840 --> 01:49:50.500 Stop it! You're okay! Everyone's safe. Yeah, 01:49:50.579 --> 01:49:53.100 it's good to see you again. Fine, I don't even 01:49:53.100 --> 01:49:58.920 get a hug. Oh, Raph, you goober. I love when 01:49:58.920 --> 01:50:02.279 you're mushy. Yeah, well, don't get used to it. 01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:06.039 Don't tell anybody. Yeah, don't tell anybody 01:50:06.039 --> 01:50:11.909 I was a goober. Uh, Siri, no, no, you need to 01:50:11.909 --> 01:50:14.770 get back. No, Shirelle wants me. This is all 01:50:14.770 --> 01:50:18.310 because of me. I think she's right, Donnie. We 01:50:18.310 --> 01:50:21.270 can't just let her surrender herself to them. 01:50:21.329 --> 01:50:25.069 The EPF can take care of this. Shirelle, here 01:50:25.069 --> 01:50:32.470 I am. Face me, coward. Oh, boy. That's, uh, that's 01:50:32.470 --> 01:50:35.590 some fighting words there, little lady. There 01:50:35.590 --> 01:50:39.550 you are, Reginta. Oh, Triceratown Shrill, what 01:50:39.550 --> 01:50:43.670 have you done? Oh, yeah, that's, like, nasty. 01:50:44.829 --> 01:50:47.569 Oh, yeah, very. Taking the dead bodies and reanimating 01:50:47.569 --> 01:50:50.270 them. Oh, well, it's even worse. Yeah, well, 01:50:50.350 --> 01:50:52.270 look at that. Yeah, we know what happens in a 01:50:52.270 --> 01:50:58.529 minute. Oh, boy. How dare you use the bodies 01:50:58.529 --> 01:51:03.029 of my people, these warriors, and poor Dr. Zura. 01:51:03.149 --> 01:51:07.000 They were noble creatures. I thought you would 01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:10.739 enjoy seeing some familiar faces. Now hand yourself 01:51:10.739 --> 01:51:18.039 over. Or I'll raz this city to the ground. Ciri, 01:51:18.159 --> 01:51:22.220 you don't have to do this. No, I will not surrender, 01:51:22.500 --> 01:51:29.619 Shirelle. So be it, then. Protect Ciri with everything 01:51:29.619 --> 01:51:35.359 you've got it, guys. Take this. She gives him 01:51:35.359 --> 01:51:39.359 a sign, right? He gives, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He 01:51:39.359 --> 01:51:44.840 gives, he says, take the, Oh, okay. Yeah. See, 01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:47.840 no, I wasn't. Oh, I thought he was talking to. 01:51:49.140 --> 01:51:52.920 He's okay. Raph is talking to, to Siri. I thought 01:51:52.920 --> 01:51:56.140 he was talking to Shirelle. He's like, take this. 01:51:56.380 --> 01:51:59.840 No, he's take this. He's talking to Siri. That's 01:51:59.840 --> 01:52:02.199 that's all. I, I miss some, I misinterpreted 01:52:02.199 --> 01:52:07.739 that. You will die this night, Shirell. Laser 01:52:07.739 --> 01:52:15.399 blast and ooh, Donnie and his metal shell. It's 01:52:15.399 --> 01:52:17.460 a good thing that thing can take a licking and 01:52:17.460 --> 01:52:22.039 keep on ticking. Look here, folks. I can tell 01:52:22.039 --> 01:52:23.840 you that I'm old without actually telling you 01:52:23.840 --> 01:52:26.060 that I'm old by putting a Timex reference into 01:52:26.060 --> 01:52:34.390 a podcast. Incredible. Hi, Shirelle. You killed 01:52:34.390 --> 01:52:38.649 my mother. Now I will kill you. And a lot of 01:52:38.649 --> 01:52:42.069 these panels, folks, are just the battle. I mean, 01:52:42.090 --> 01:52:46.310 it's a good battle. The art. Oh, it's so good. 01:52:47.430 --> 01:52:51.329 So good. The colors, the drawings, the lines 01:52:51.329 --> 01:52:56.210 on the suits, man. Look on the page where... 01:52:58.569 --> 01:53:03.970 Where he reveals that his suit is actually her 01:53:03.970 --> 01:53:08.750 mother's face. It's her mother's body. The shadow 01:53:08.750 --> 01:53:13.569 on his stomach where he actually... That's some 01:53:13.569 --> 01:53:18.250 good design. That's some really good art design 01:53:18.250 --> 01:53:21.529 for that character. That is hilariously good. 01:53:21.670 --> 01:53:25.890 That is so awesome. This just makes Ciri even 01:53:25.890 --> 01:53:29.649 angrier, obviously. Using the face of her mother. 01:53:30.630 --> 01:53:33.909 Yeah, why anger her like that? You're just gonna 01:53:33.909 --> 01:53:44.949 power her up. Donatello, is it? It seems you 01:53:44.949 --> 01:53:47.670 have beaten me, but I have a proposal. I'll spare 01:53:47.670 --> 01:53:51.210 you and your friends if you explain your arcane 01:53:51.210 --> 01:54:00.800 technology to me. No way. Die. Oh, man. And then 01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:05.060 the Fantastic Four show up with Mikey. Waiting 01:54:05.060 --> 01:54:07.619 two days to make that joke. Because seriously, 01:54:07.859 --> 01:54:12.399 like, look at these people. I understand it's 01:54:12.399 --> 01:54:14.960 the Nova Group or the Nova Corps or whatever 01:54:14.960 --> 01:54:18.140 it's supposed to be, but like... I can't remember 01:54:18.140 --> 01:54:22.579 when they showed up before. I can't either. They 01:54:22.579 --> 01:54:24.680 look familiar, like they were Archie characters 01:54:24.680 --> 01:54:27.659 at some point, but I don't remember when we've 01:54:27.659 --> 01:54:30.609 read from them. Yeah, I don't remember seeing 01:54:30.609 --> 01:54:35.310 these people in this series at all. And... It's 01:54:35.310 --> 01:54:37.090 probably just because it's been going for 10 01:54:37.090 --> 01:54:39.909 years. 15. I can't look. I lost count. Yeah, 01:54:40.050 --> 01:54:43.010 longer. And I don't remember. Yeah, but, like, 01:54:43.010 --> 01:54:49.329 seriously, like... I was really hoping Mikey 01:54:49.329 --> 01:54:53.069 would show up with the Neutrinos, but I understand 01:54:53.069 --> 01:54:56.609 why you have to show up with a... A Michael Chiklis 01:54:56.609 --> 01:54:59.489 suited up Ben Grimm the Thing looking character. 01:54:59.609 --> 01:55:03.829 Like, literally. I don't know what other powers 01:55:03.829 --> 01:55:06.630 the two females and the other male have, but 01:55:06.630 --> 01:55:11.050 literally a giant guy in the blue and the yellow. 01:55:11.130 --> 01:55:14.329 It looks like the Thing. So the team's all here. 01:55:14.510 --> 01:55:17.569 Some weird aliens, I guess. This has been a long 01:55:17.569 --> 01:55:22.159 time coming, Shirell. Kill them all. So we have 01:55:22.159 --> 01:55:25.239 an even bigger battle as this progresses. And 01:55:25.239 --> 01:55:28.479 again, between the backgrounds, the foregrounds, 01:55:28.479 --> 01:55:31.739 the colors, the art, the drawings, the characterizations, 01:55:31.819 --> 01:55:36.880 all of it looks so amazing. They just do such 01:55:36.880 --> 01:55:40.380 a great, great job. And isn't even there. He 01:55:40.380 --> 01:55:43.100 must have been piloting remotely from some. That's 01:55:43.100 --> 01:55:45.800 why he was in shadow the whole time. Oh, that's 01:55:45.800 --> 01:55:49.239 right. Yep, yep, yep. He's back at the base somewhere 01:55:49.239 --> 01:55:54.479 or whatever. And so the only reason we're here 01:55:54.479 --> 01:55:57.659 is to finally take care of Shirell and Krang. 01:55:57.979 --> 01:56:00.479 You're welcome to come with us to find Shirell. 01:56:00.619 --> 01:56:03.140 It seems like we want vengeance against him as 01:56:03.140 --> 01:56:08.199 much as you do. This is the Nova Corps people 01:56:08.199 --> 01:56:13.460 talking to Ciri. So that's essentially what's 01:56:13.460 --> 01:56:15.619 going to happen is she's going to go with them 01:56:15.619 --> 01:56:20.079 to find Shirell. which is very, very cool, very, 01:56:20.180 --> 01:56:24.859 very interesting. Siri gives Donatello a very 01:56:24.859 --> 01:56:29.899 big hug. She talks to Carmen. She talks to Pepperoni. 01:56:31.899 --> 01:56:34.439 Pepperoni's awesome. She knows who matters. Yes, 01:56:34.439 --> 01:56:36.920 that's right. Pepperoni and Lita. Goodbye, mighty 01:56:36.920 --> 01:56:40.760 Pepperoni. Oh, God. We need a Lita and Pepperoni 01:56:40.760 --> 01:56:43.930 one -shot. That's what we need. Goodbye, everyone. 01:56:43.989 --> 01:56:46.670 I'll see you all again after I've reaped vengeance 01:56:46.670 --> 01:56:51.310 and freed my people. Good luck, Siri. Bye, Nova 01:56:51.310 --> 01:56:53.350 Posse. That's what they're called in this, Nova 01:56:53.350 --> 01:56:55.510 Posse. I kept calling them Nova Corps. I think 01:56:55.510 --> 01:56:57.069 that's a Marvel thing. Oh, yeah, that's very 01:56:57.069 --> 01:57:03.430 Marvel, Nova Corps. Yep, yep. And on her way 01:57:03.430 --> 01:57:08.750 to Ireland, Siri takes her mom's metal replacement 01:57:08.750 --> 01:57:14.760 horn and makes it her own. Yup. And, yeah, that's 01:57:14.760 --> 01:57:18.500 the end of this issue. We get an awesome variant 01:57:18.500 --> 01:57:23.439 cover with Donnie. Oh, man, I'm going to screw 01:57:23.439 --> 01:57:30.039 this up. Donnie and Casey, I see. And I bet that's 01:57:30.039 --> 01:57:36.420 probably Cherell in the top, Siri. I can't see 01:57:36.420 --> 01:57:39.539 who's behind Casey in this picture. Casey, I 01:57:39.539 --> 01:57:43.109 think that's the rest of the U -Troms. And then 01:57:43.109 --> 01:57:46.689 at the bottom is probably Cherelle. The top is, 01:57:46.829 --> 01:57:49.909 I don't know, maybe General Craig? I don't know. 01:57:50.369 --> 01:57:54.449 It's probably Cherelle because he was there attacking 01:57:54.449 --> 01:57:58.329 Ciri. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was Kevin and 01:57:58.329 --> 01:58:01.829 Sophie. So Kevin Eastman, Sophie Campbell. Very 01:58:01.829 --> 01:58:04.930 cool, very cool. A little bit. Up, up, up. And 01:58:04.930 --> 01:58:07.449 now we have the Mystic Brother and Mystic Donatello. 01:58:08.270 --> 01:58:15.979 I love this cover. I love the Eastman and Selfie 01:58:15.979 --> 01:58:21.079 one from two issues ago where he's holding his 01:58:21.079 --> 01:58:23.979 gauntlet up kind of next to his face in it. The 01:58:23.979 --> 01:58:27.819 way that it's drawn, it looks like the weird 01:58:27.819 --> 01:58:30.739 gauntlet from the Hellboy movie, the first one. 01:58:30.939 --> 01:58:34.640 Yep. All the clear crystal, clear vials on it, 01:58:34.659 --> 01:58:38.000 but it's got the green magic. Yeah. I love those 01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:40.739 two working together. Yep. I think what I love, 01:58:40.819 --> 01:58:44.840 okay, so we talk, we've 12 years, folks. We over, 01:58:45.100 --> 01:58:48.920 well, we're still in the 12th year, 12th. Well, 01:58:49.039 --> 01:58:52.699 the month of the 12th year, the whatever. You 01:58:52.699 --> 01:58:54.300 know what I'm trying to say. We're still in March. 01:58:54.380 --> 01:58:58.460 We're still in March here. So it's the actual 01:58:58.460 --> 01:59:02.880 month of the 12th year of the podcast. And we 01:59:02.880 --> 01:59:05.380 always ask the question in the Origins episodes 01:59:05.380 --> 01:59:10.699 about what form of comic books do you like the 01:59:10.699 --> 01:59:14.220 best print digital print or digital vice versa 01:59:14.220 --> 01:59:17.119 yada yada yada uh whatever whatever whatever 01:59:17.119 --> 01:59:21.079 and while i will always love and have a respect 01:59:21.079 --> 01:59:26.239 for print i ain't got no room for print so i 01:59:26.239 --> 01:59:29.739 got room for trades some trades and stuff but 01:59:29.739 --> 01:59:32.439 even not even those not many like i would get 01:59:32.439 --> 01:59:36.340 the idw collection volumes for this but i don't 01:59:36.340 --> 01:59:39.270 even have turtle trades Just because I got a 01:59:39.270 --> 01:59:42.649 one -bedroom apartment. And unfortunately, half 01:59:42.649 --> 01:59:45.449 of that's taken up by Funko Pops. But that is 01:59:45.449 --> 01:59:47.409 a whole other story for a whole other podcast. 01:59:47.909 --> 01:59:54.250 Point is, what I love about digital is that I 01:59:54.250 --> 01:59:57.189 can sit here and I can look at what issue number 01:59:57.189 --> 01:59:59.329 is this? Because I have the trade. It doesn't 01:59:59.329 --> 02:00:03.090 tell me the issue number. This is 138. Okay, 02:00:03.149 --> 02:00:05.329 so we got two issues left in this trade. So this 02:00:05.329 --> 02:00:09.380 is issue 138. Volume 7, TMNT Reborn, Volume 7, 02:00:09.500 --> 02:00:12.619 Isolation. This is Donatello with his mysticism 02:00:12.619 --> 02:00:16.720 and everything else. And this is a different... 02:00:16.720 --> 02:00:21.420 Ooh. Oh. Donatello kind of looking like Batman 02:00:21.420 --> 02:00:25.399 because his belt has, like, utility... Like, 02:00:25.439 --> 02:00:28.640 when did that start happening? He's got utility 02:00:28.640 --> 02:00:32.579 pouches on his belt. I wonder. Hold on. I have 02:00:32.579 --> 02:00:35.659 the... Santa Luca Donatello action figure here. 02:00:35.739 --> 02:00:39.939 He's full of pouches. Okay, no. It's just the 02:00:39.939 --> 02:00:43.220 first time I've noticed it kind of thing. It 02:00:43.220 --> 02:00:45.779 depends on who's drawing it. Yeah, that's fine. 02:00:45.979 --> 02:00:49.500 I like they differentiate the turtles more often. 02:00:49.760 --> 02:00:53.479 Absolutely, 100%. Yeah, no worries. That's not 02:00:53.479 --> 02:00:58.439 a big deal. But again... this is done by by pharaoh 02:00:58.439 --> 02:01:01.119 pay and i love pharaoh's art here because number 02:01:01.119 --> 02:01:03.199 one it's donnie and number two it's all purple 02:01:03.199 --> 02:01:05.300 and the reason why i love the digital versus 02:01:05.300 --> 02:01:08.279 the print is because in the digital i think the 02:01:08.279 --> 02:01:10.180 print you would only have you would not have 02:01:10.180 --> 02:01:12.640 the purple border you would just have the actual 02:01:12.640 --> 02:01:16.279 image of the image you would not have where it 02:01:16.279 --> 02:01:21.520 has in the in the here let me just Oh man, do 02:01:21.520 --> 02:01:24.460 I? Here, hold on. I'm showing you right now. 02:01:24.500 --> 02:01:28.039 Give me two seconds. So the purple border there, 02:01:28.180 --> 02:01:33.779 I'm assuming generally as a regular comic book 02:01:33.779 --> 02:01:36.760 issue, you only have the actual, you don't have 02:01:36.760 --> 02:01:40.500 a purple border around it. You just have the 02:01:40.500 --> 02:01:44.319 actual image itself, right? Oh, I see. I wonder 02:01:44.319 --> 02:01:47.739 with those, the angled border across the top 02:01:47.739 --> 02:01:51.409 and bottom. If they're cropping any of that up. 02:01:51.470 --> 02:01:54.770 Oh, yeah. They cropped that image on yours. That's 02:01:54.770 --> 02:01:57.770 fine. I don't have a problem with the cropped 02:01:57.770 --> 02:02:01.130 image. You just like the purple? Yeah, that's 02:02:01.130 --> 02:02:04.409 the point. I understand why they cropped the 02:02:04.409 --> 02:02:07.109 image, and I can look at, and I will look at 02:02:07.109 --> 02:02:09.649 the actual. You said this was issue what? This 02:02:09.649 --> 02:02:13.630 was issue 138? 138. Oh, it's not that bad. Oh, 02:02:13.750 --> 02:02:18.479 wait. Oh, no, that's just his pants. Okay. It's 02:02:18.479 --> 02:02:27.960 not that bad. So we looked at several of the 02:02:27.960 --> 02:02:32.420 individual issues for the books, folks, and when 02:02:32.420 --> 02:02:36.659 they do the backups for the trades, they crop 02:02:36.659 --> 02:02:39.539 them a little bit. It's not cropped as bad as 02:02:39.539 --> 02:02:42.260 I thought it was. Yeah, it's not terrible. I 02:02:42.260 --> 02:02:44.539 mean, more of it is covered up by the title and 02:02:44.539 --> 02:02:47.659 the... publisher mark in the corner yeah like 02:02:47.659 --> 02:02:50.739 this this to me is more of an art piece and you 02:02:50.739 --> 02:02:54.359 actually actively have who the artist is like 02:02:54.359 --> 02:02:57.020 it's like obviously you have the i'll zoom in 02:02:57.020 --> 02:03:01.920 here obviously you have you have his his signature 02:03:01.920 --> 02:03:05.760 on the image itself with the year in the art 02:03:05.760 --> 02:03:08.500 itself but you all like i would love to get this 02:03:08.500 --> 02:03:10.760 printed i would love to have this as a frame 02:03:10.760 --> 02:03:14.449 this would be cool this is why i love The trade 02:03:14.449 --> 02:03:17.250 paperbacks and how IDW does. This is why I love 02:03:17.250 --> 02:03:20.149 the Purple Waters and stuff like that. And any 02:03:20.149 --> 02:03:23.930 of them. I mean, we'll see later. But like this 02:03:23.930 --> 02:03:28.329 one, same thing. Like you've got not so hot on 02:03:28.329 --> 02:03:30.890 the green, on the aquamarine green here. And 02:03:30.890 --> 02:03:34.449 people can't see this, but you can. But Eastman 02:03:34.449 --> 02:03:38.989 and Sophie with all the characters here on this, 02:03:39.109 --> 02:03:43.859 same thing. these to me scream, especially specifically 02:03:43.859 --> 02:03:47.300 this one, it's like, ooh, print me out, frame 02:03:47.300 --> 02:03:54.020 me, put me on your wall. Did I ever see Farrow 02:03:54.020 --> 02:03:58.640 Pay at a convention? Don't buy that print. Hopefully 02:03:58.640 --> 02:04:03.479 he has it. So we start 138 in Mutant Town, the 02:04:03.479 --> 02:04:07.180 wall. I know you don't like Man Ray, but we need 02:04:07.180 --> 02:04:17.020 his help. Man Ray put us in a cage. I know. Man 02:04:17.020 --> 02:04:21.479 Ray bad, right, Dada? Right, Dana? Uh, yeah, 02:04:21.600 --> 02:04:27.000 bad. But... Ray, how you doing over there? Almost 02:04:27.000 --> 02:04:31.140 done here. Here, too, ahead of schedule. Once 02:04:31.140 --> 02:04:34.060 I'm done here, the entire perimeter will be set. 02:04:34.319 --> 02:04:39.100 Nice work. What are they doing? I know what they're 02:04:39.100 --> 02:04:42.590 doing. But do you know what they're doing? Oh, 02:04:42.590 --> 02:04:49.569 man. I was not expecting. Because of where the 02:04:49.569 --> 02:04:51.789 speech balloons are coming from and the radio 02:04:51.789 --> 02:04:58.329 communication, I can't tell if Man Ray is trying 02:04:58.329 --> 02:05:00.930 to blow the wall apart and Hobbes trying to stop 02:05:00.930 --> 02:05:06.750 him or if they're working together. Hey, Ray, 02:05:06.829 --> 02:05:09.130 how you doing? It looks like they're working 02:05:09.130 --> 02:05:15.510 together. They're working together. Yep. Which 02:05:15.510 --> 02:05:18.409 is a little different than what it seems like 02:05:18.409 --> 02:05:21.430 later, but I'll get reminded. We'll work that 02:05:21.430 --> 02:05:25.630 out. Yeah. As we turn the next page, somewhere 02:05:25.630 --> 02:05:29.909 off -camera, Leonardo's back. Yes! And so now 02:05:29.909 --> 02:05:31.989 we're back to full strength. They're all back 02:05:31.989 --> 02:05:34.930 from their miniseries and other collections, 02:05:35.149 --> 02:05:38.159 and it's the big battle. Oh, big battle. Oh, 02:05:38.159 --> 02:05:40.039 and even Shredder's back there. Yep, yep, yep. 02:05:44.060 --> 02:05:48.100 That's crazy seeing Saki fight with them. It's 02:05:48.100 --> 02:05:53.260 good, but it's crazy. So crazy. So yeah, we got 02:05:53.260 --> 02:05:59.260 the big battle between everybody. Pages like 02:05:59.260 --> 02:06:01.899 this must be a pain in the neck to draw. All 02:06:01.899 --> 02:06:04.619 of these characters, different scales, perspective. 02:06:08.269 --> 02:06:12.689 Yeah, absolutely. Good shot, Hector. Like, just 02:06:12.689 --> 02:06:16.789 everything. It must be a pain to draw, but once 02:06:16.789 --> 02:06:22.170 you... And color. Absolutely. Rondo, we are not 02:06:22.170 --> 02:06:28.649 worthy. We are not worthy. You know, but once 02:06:28.649 --> 02:06:30.770 you get the work done and you look at it and 02:06:30.770 --> 02:06:36.420 you're like, damn, that's amazing. What I am 02:06:36.420 --> 02:06:41.520 slightly more interested in is what is going 02:06:41.520 --> 02:06:46.020 on back here. What is all this? I noticed this. 02:06:47.619 --> 02:06:52.399 EPF people. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, so folks, 02:06:52.560 --> 02:06:54.979 even though you can't see it, as we're looking 02:06:54.979 --> 02:06:58.960 at page, whatever page, this is page 117 of volume 02:06:58.960 --> 02:07:03.859 7, Isolation. Behind some of the inserted panels 02:07:03.859 --> 02:07:09.100 is the EPF. Yeah, I said that right. The EPF 02:07:09.100 --> 02:07:15.960 peoples. So yeah, that's that. It's the EPA and 02:07:15.960 --> 02:07:21.039 Walter Peck. What a prick that Peck guy was. 02:07:21.119 --> 02:07:27.270 I hated him. Can we just have, can we just, I 02:07:27.270 --> 02:07:30.350 know the Statue of Liberty was supposed to be 02:07:30.350 --> 02:07:34.369 a symbol of positivity, but can we just have 02:07:34.369 --> 02:07:38.189 her step on him, please? Because that guy, no. 02:07:38.949 --> 02:07:41.710 I mean, the judge got it with the Scolari brothers, 02:07:41.970 --> 02:07:44.909 but like Walter Peck, yeah, he needs to go. So 02:07:44.909 --> 02:07:47.970 we got the goodbyes with sort of, kind of, not 02:07:47.970 --> 02:07:50.229 really, we almost get the goodbyes with Siri 02:07:50.229 --> 02:07:58.359 and the Nova Posse, but... Uh, we get, um, some 02:07:58.359 --> 02:08:03.060 resistance here with some Utroms. Be the prisoners 02:08:03.060 --> 02:08:06.060 and surrender and we'll go easy on you. Never! 02:08:06.560 --> 02:08:15.439 Okay. Zebulon, do it. Pleasure. Push. Boom. Oh, 02:08:15.479 --> 02:08:30.939 boy. And, ew. So, baby Utroms. I think my disgust 02:08:30.939 --> 02:08:35.739 with this page or this part of this page is just 02:08:35.739 --> 02:08:38.920 floating around in green goop. Just floating 02:08:38.920 --> 02:08:42.199 around in ooze. I think that's supposed to be 02:08:42.199 --> 02:08:46.239 mutagen. And she just reaches in and grabs one. 02:08:46.359 --> 02:08:52.600 I know. Don't do that. They're cute, though, 02:08:52.640 --> 02:08:56.180 aren't they? These babies are innocents. Uh -huh. 02:08:56.340 --> 02:09:02.960 Yeah, sure they are. Sure they are. Yep. Well, 02:09:03.020 --> 02:09:07.119 they are. The U -Troms aren't an evil race in 02:09:07.119 --> 02:09:10.020 this series. That's true. They're only evil because 02:09:10.020 --> 02:09:13.779 Franks are back, and Terrell is absolutely evil. 02:09:14.039 --> 02:09:16.979 Yep. Yep, yep, yep. Okay. There are good U -Troms 02:09:16.979 --> 02:09:20.720 out there. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. The turtles need 02:09:20.720 --> 02:09:28.260 an Utram baby. Raise it right. No. We've never 02:09:28.260 --> 02:09:30.979 seen that angle, I guess is all I'm saying. That's 02:09:30.979 --> 02:09:33.539 something that they haven't ever had to do. The 02:09:33.539 --> 02:09:37.220 Utram infants are the future. He changed his 02:09:37.220 --> 02:09:41.800 suit again? Ah. Changes more suits. Changes more 02:09:41.800 --> 02:09:46.680 suits than Batman. Seriously. Oh, this is the 02:09:46.680 --> 02:09:49.079 actual suit that he's got. The other one was 02:09:49.079 --> 02:09:59.420 just... Okay. Still late, but yeah. So... Alright, 02:09:59.479 --> 02:10:04.680 everyone. You're safe. We're here. And they are 02:10:04.680 --> 02:10:08.920 freeing the Utrom. And they are fighting for 02:10:08.920 --> 02:10:14.180 the Utrom. And your vengeance isn't going so 02:10:14.180 --> 02:10:19.409 well. What's the thing Triceratops always say 02:10:19.409 --> 02:10:28.210 for the pack? No. For the herd. And... I didn't 02:10:28.210 --> 02:10:30.430 see that coming, and neither did Jor -El. Nope. 02:10:33.270 --> 02:10:39.630 Ciri takes her mother's nose... Horn. The metal 02:10:39.630 --> 02:10:42.710 horn. Metal horn. And stabs Jor -El with it. 02:10:42.850 --> 02:10:49.579 Right in the eye. Look at that. Oh, boy. Oh, 02:10:49.720 --> 02:10:52.579 that's one less villain. Who's going to be the 02:10:52.579 --> 02:10:59.279 villain now? It's over. And she gets his little 02:10:59.279 --> 02:11:03.319 comlink thing. This is Ciri Triceraton Regenta. 02:11:04.680 --> 02:11:09.239 Now, and you will be shown mercy. Your leader 02:11:09.239 --> 02:11:13.479 is dead. Leave now, or face the wrath of the 02:11:13.479 --> 02:11:19.050 Triceratons. And we cut back to New York. Hey, 02:11:19.229 --> 02:11:23.470 they're leaving. That's one down. Yeah, and then 02:11:23.470 --> 02:11:27.170 the EPF aren't going to let the Krang walk out 02:11:27.170 --> 02:11:30.090 of New York. And so they're still irritated. 02:11:30.430 --> 02:11:32.449 And the Turtles step up. You know, they don't 02:11:32.449 --> 02:11:33.949 make a big deal about it, but the Turtles step 02:11:33.949 --> 02:11:38.569 up to defend the retreating U -Troms and take 02:11:38.569 --> 02:11:46.199 out the F -People. Yeah, man. Wait, I thought 02:11:46.199 --> 02:11:54.520 he was a ghost. Huh? Wait, wait a minute. What? 02:11:55.000 --> 02:11:58.180 Who's saying that? I'm looking. No, no, no. The 02:11:58.180 --> 02:12:03.140 page where Annika says, well, that's one down. 02:12:04.119 --> 02:12:06.939 Bottom middle of the page. I thought he was a 02:12:06.939 --> 02:12:11.359 ghost. Oh, where she says, that's it, Mikey. 02:12:11.949 --> 02:12:13.989 The character in the background. The character's 02:12:13.989 --> 02:12:16.189 not saying anything. I'm saying... I thought 02:12:16.189 --> 02:12:19.829 he was... Yeah, Shredder. No, no. He's been... 02:12:19.829 --> 02:12:23.069 He's like in and out of the astral plane. Okay. 02:12:24.149 --> 02:12:27.710 But he's... He's recorporalized. Okay, got it, 02:12:27.710 --> 02:12:30.609 got it. What's the mysterious cow doing here? 02:12:31.930 --> 02:12:34.750 Oh, he's just one of the allies. They're bringing 02:12:34.750 --> 02:12:37.829 everybody back. I don't know if you guys... Your 02:12:37.829 --> 02:12:41.529 listeners have... necessarily seen this, but 02:12:41.529 --> 02:12:45.829 Cuddly the Cowlick is a giant cow head. It speaks. 02:12:46.109 --> 02:12:49.930 It has opinions. And I think in canon here, it 02:12:49.930 --> 02:12:53.069 is the same Cuddly the Cowlick from the Archie 02:12:53.069 --> 02:12:56.149 series. He's trans -dimensional and can go... 02:12:56.149 --> 02:12:59.189 He's met many different groups of turtles. And 02:12:59.189 --> 02:13:04.350 he will lick, slurp up people, passengers, and 02:13:04.350 --> 02:13:07.789 take them across time and space. And he's there 02:13:07.789 --> 02:13:11.989 fighting. And Jenica needs to perform some of 02:13:11.989 --> 02:13:14.689 her kichikuri, but nobody can look. And so he 02:13:14.689 --> 02:13:19.489 shows up. I hear him sounding like goofy in my 02:13:19.489 --> 02:13:22.689 imagination. I can help with that. And he licks 02:13:22.689 --> 02:13:28.329 her up so she can do her hand gestures. And she 02:13:28.329 --> 02:13:30.949 is going to show everyone the truth. Yeah, she's 02:13:30.949 --> 02:13:33.750 showing everybody the truth in their head. And 02:13:33.750 --> 02:13:37.199 they're all like, whoa, okay, I get it now. And 02:13:37.199 --> 02:13:40.899 Mikey's like, yes. I don't know what's happening, 02:13:41.079 --> 02:13:49.359 but it's working. And, yeah. So, Ray, come in. 02:13:49.420 --> 02:13:53.100 You see the weasels anywhere? No, I thought they 02:13:53.100 --> 02:13:57.119 were with you. It's time to go home now. Can't 02:13:57.119 --> 02:14:00.119 leave the weasels behind. I don't know why the 02:14:00.119 --> 02:14:02.699 weasels thought they had to protect Hob from 02:14:02.699 --> 02:14:06.199 Ray. This is why I thought, are they working 02:14:06.199 --> 02:14:07.699 together or are they not working together? I 02:14:07.699 --> 02:14:12.260 think Hob and Ray are working together. But I 02:14:12.260 --> 02:14:15.279 think they think, the weasels think, that Ray 02:14:15.279 --> 02:14:19.100 has some weird agenda. Right, Mushroom? Man Ray, 02:14:19.199 --> 02:14:23.500 bad. Hey, Ray, why did you hit your trigger already? 02:14:24.039 --> 02:14:27.159 Uh -oh. Hey, you guys feel that? Yeah, I think 02:14:27.159 --> 02:14:29.750 that's Hob. Rumble, rumble, rumble, rumble, rumble. 02:14:30.109 --> 02:14:34.090 Everyone move! Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 02:14:34.289 --> 02:14:37.989 Mushroom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Damn 02:14:37.989 --> 02:14:41.149 it! What was that, Raph? You said Hob was up 02:14:41.149 --> 02:14:43.909 to something. Yeah, he did it. I can't believe 02:14:43.909 --> 02:14:49.109 it. Boom! Was he supposed to take down the wall? 02:14:49.350 --> 02:14:55.229 I thought he was. Yep, he pulled it off. I thought 02:14:55.229 --> 02:14:58.489 he was supposed to take it down. You did it, 02:14:58.489 --> 02:15:01.310 man. You okay? What happened? Hey, where's the 02:15:01.310 --> 02:15:05.529 weasels? They're gone. They were in the blast. 02:15:05.810 --> 02:15:08.710 I looked. I couldn't find them. Ever since day 02:15:08.710 --> 02:15:11.529 one, Hob has always been a tragic character. 02:15:12.210 --> 02:15:17.229 Yeah. Ring, ring, ring, ring. Hey, April. Donnie, 02:15:17.289 --> 02:15:19.770 I'm sending you what I found out about Null. 02:15:19.930 --> 02:15:25.340 You need to see it. Uh -oh. More Null shit. Okay, 02:15:25.399 --> 02:15:29.159 everyone, we still have to do this. Donnie, Mikey, 02:15:29.279 --> 02:15:32.079 you two take Cuddly to Burnout Island and meet 02:15:32.079 --> 02:15:36.479 up with the Regenta and the Nova Posse. Oh, boy. 02:15:36.899 --> 02:15:39.579 Jenny, there's a ton of folks here in Mutant 02:15:39.579 --> 02:15:42.539 Town who still need help. Can you handle it? 02:15:42.579 --> 02:15:46.239 On it. And I'll be going with you guys to take 02:15:46.239 --> 02:15:50.319 care of Null. We will defeat her for certain. 02:15:50.380 --> 02:15:53.079 Where are you going? There is something else 02:15:53.079 --> 02:15:55.560 that needs my attention. I've taught you all 02:15:55.560 --> 02:16:02.880 that I can. Have you? Have you, though? But we'll 02:16:02.880 --> 02:16:08.500 meet again soon. Uh -oh. Oh, no. Remember me? 02:16:08.520 --> 02:16:15.199 I'm here to help, okay? Aww. Alopex finds the 02:16:15.199 --> 02:16:18.899 weasels! Yay! At least they're not dead. Oh, 02:16:19.020 --> 02:16:21.369 that's that variant cover. That's right. Oh, 02:16:21.390 --> 02:16:27.569 boy. Here we go. Final issue, folks. On 39, Mystic 02:16:27.569 --> 02:16:36.489 Sister. Isolation. But technically also Mystic 02:16:36.489 --> 02:16:43.430 Sister because technically that's, yeah. So we 02:16:43.430 --> 02:16:48.790 start in. It's time to end this. What the hell? 02:16:49.739 --> 02:16:52.159 What the hell is this, Saki? Where did you bring 02:16:52.159 --> 02:16:55.719 us? And why? We are hidden from... Go ahead. 02:16:55.819 --> 02:17:00.420 What? I think that the last issue we read was 02:17:00.420 --> 02:17:05.379 the end of that storyline. And this, I feel like, 02:17:05.399 --> 02:17:10.780 happens before they leave their Northampton training. 02:17:11.100 --> 02:17:14.860 Okay. Yep, yep. Probably. So it's a bit of a 02:17:14.860 --> 02:17:17.260 jump, and it's weird, but, you know, here we 02:17:17.260 --> 02:17:20.149 go. Yeah, it's a bit of a jump, but we knew that 02:17:20.149 --> 02:17:23.090 going in. And we knew that when we set up the 02:17:23.090 --> 02:17:25.190 whole behind -the -scenes thing on the podcast 02:17:25.190 --> 02:17:28.850 about doing the Armageddon game in between Volume 02:17:28.850 --> 02:17:32.389 8 and Volume 9. Yep. It's going to be a little 02:17:32.389 --> 02:17:35.629 confusing, but don't stop, readers. We'll make 02:17:35.629 --> 02:17:39.229 it make sense. We always do. So we are hidden 02:17:39.229 --> 02:17:42.370 from the Rat King while in this thin place, and 02:17:42.370 --> 02:17:45.409 it is here you must learn one final skill before 02:17:45.409 --> 02:17:48.120 you face him. but I won't be the one to teach 02:17:48.120 --> 02:17:53.940 it to you. You won't? Who, pray tell? Kitsune? 02:17:55.799 --> 02:18:02.120 Explain yourself, Saki. Oh, they pissed. Uh -huh. 02:18:04.379 --> 02:18:07.840 What I like about this is that it's kind of back 02:18:07.840 --> 02:18:12.120 to form. It's classic Turtles. It's classic Turtles 02:18:12.120 --> 02:18:18.100 with Saki. Even classic with Kitsune. As much 02:18:18.100 --> 02:18:20.059 as I love the Mutant Town stuff, as much as I 02:18:20.059 --> 02:18:21.600 love all the new characters that we've gotten 02:18:21.600 --> 02:18:24.920 introduced to over all these years, this final 02:18:24.920 --> 02:18:29.079 issue for Isolation is the perfect title for 02:18:29.079 --> 02:18:31.600 this trade because everybody in all of these 02:18:31.600 --> 02:18:35.559 issues from 1 .33 to 1 .39 have been isolated 02:18:35.559 --> 02:18:38.520 in one point or another in this trade paperback. 02:18:39.260 --> 02:18:44.040 And this is the perfect send -off for the end 02:18:44.040 --> 02:18:47.840 of this part of the story. So it works. She's 02:18:47.840 --> 02:18:52.180 going to teach them the final lesson. The secret 02:18:52.180 --> 02:18:59.459 tenth cut of the Fujikiri Tong. There's a tenth 02:18:59.459 --> 02:19:04.899 cut? Tell us everything, Kitsune. Imagine where 02:19:04.899 --> 02:19:07.799 the turtles are in this moment. They've got the 02:19:07.799 --> 02:19:12.659 shredder who great cost has been paid to separate 02:19:13.229 --> 02:19:16.629 the evil part of him from who he is now and how 02:19:16.629 --> 02:19:20.370 he's had to reject kitsune but then knows that 02:19:20.370 --> 02:19:24.069 they have to get this knowledge from her and 02:19:24.069 --> 02:19:27.250 can you trust her coming back and being this 02:19:27.250 --> 02:19:31.110 close to saki even though we know she's motivated 02:19:31.110 --> 02:19:35.049 by the defeat of her brother the rat king um 02:19:35.049 --> 02:19:38.250 like you you it's an icky situation yeah and 02:19:38.250 --> 02:19:41.090 they have to it's very they have to suck it up 02:19:41.090 --> 02:19:46.200 and accept what she's got to say. Yep, yep. Absolutely, 02:19:46.420 --> 02:19:50.739 absolutely. So yeah, that's what's going on in 02:19:50.739 --> 02:19:55.760 this final issue of The Isolation Trade. And 02:19:55.760 --> 02:20:00.299 what a story. Just what a story. Absolutely love 02:20:00.299 --> 02:20:03.620 it. Tong is the unification, interconnection, 02:20:03.620 --> 02:20:09.079 and as a whole, the space -time and gravity in 02:20:09.079 --> 02:20:11.920 the quantum universe. I'm telling you, you know 02:20:11.920 --> 02:20:14.579 much of this already. Everything everyone has, 02:20:14.799 --> 02:20:19.819 not only spatial, but also psychic gravity, metaphysical 02:20:19.819 --> 02:20:23.700 gravity of essence, or what some of us call radiant 02:20:23.700 --> 02:20:28.280 gravity. These forces extend beyond the materialistic 02:20:28.280 --> 02:20:30.760 universe and into thought, dreams, elemental 02:20:30.760 --> 02:20:35.260 planes, even the realm of the dead. Incredible. 02:20:35.299 --> 02:20:38.340 This ties into Q &A, right? I've been learning 02:20:38.340 --> 02:20:41.780 about that. Donnie, you've been learning about 02:20:41.780 --> 02:20:46.379 this mysticism already? From where? Donnie's 02:20:46.379 --> 02:20:49.920 been busy. It's a long story. I'll tell you after 02:20:49.920 --> 02:20:53.540 all of this is over. So, yeah, absolutely. And 02:20:53.540 --> 02:20:59.059 again, what I'm loving about this issue is it's 02:20:59.059 --> 02:21:02.639 basically, look, we all love action. Most of 02:21:02.639 --> 02:21:05.860 us love action. But the cool thing about an issue 02:21:05.860 --> 02:21:12.299 like this is it's all story. This page here that 02:21:12.299 --> 02:21:14.459 we're looking at, this next page where Donnie's 02:21:14.459 --> 02:21:19.079 at the top, it's combined with three panels of 02:21:19.079 --> 02:21:22.959 the turtles and it's two panels of mysticism 02:21:22.959 --> 02:21:26.299 and the explanation that Kitsune is giving them. 02:21:27.149 --> 02:21:30.190 And she's also telling them what's good. So again, 02:21:30.350 --> 02:21:33.629 it's, it's story based and it just, it just works. 02:21:33.829 --> 02:21:37.770 I, I appreciate whenever the turtles get a break 02:21:37.770 --> 02:21:41.690 from, from stuff. And this is the, the stuff 02:21:41.690 --> 02:21:44.870 where the mysticism becomes more closely tied 02:21:44.870 --> 02:21:47.950 to science. And there's more like, all right, 02:21:47.969 --> 02:21:50.510 I'm on board. I get it now. I love, I love hearing 02:21:50.510 --> 02:21:54.420 how. mysticism gets explained by various universes. 02:21:54.739 --> 02:21:57.920 The world building is fun. Oh, so the spirit 02:21:57.920 --> 02:22:03.260 is like gravity. It's a principle of matter. 02:22:03.520 --> 02:22:09.579 Okay, then Donnie gets it. It's the energy. That's 02:22:09.579 --> 02:22:11.280 how Donnie knows all this stuff already, because 02:22:11.280 --> 02:22:17.180 science became mysticism. Or the mysticism got 02:22:17.180 --> 02:22:20.319 understood enough for him that it became... this. 02:22:20.379 --> 02:22:23.100 So like, yeah, alright, good. And this is the 02:22:23.100 --> 02:22:27.559 thing that we've been waiting for for two trades. 02:22:29.299 --> 02:22:32.920 This page right here. Despite all that, the connections 02:22:32.920 --> 02:22:36.540 among yourselves are not as strong as the ones 02:22:36.540 --> 02:22:40.680 forged with others. Where do I fit into all this? 02:22:40.760 --> 02:22:43.920 I'm not a Hamato. Jenica, you're one of the many 02:22:43.920 --> 02:22:46.780 who has been pulled into the Hamato's orbit. 02:22:47.479 --> 02:22:51.440 and like many others, forever changed. You are 02:22:51.440 --> 02:22:53.899 the strongest example of what I'm explaining. 02:22:54.340 --> 02:22:57.379 Our entire life and physical being were altered 02:22:57.379 --> 02:23:02.079 to align with the Hamatos. Mystically speaking, 02:23:02.299 --> 02:23:05.239 gravitationally speaking, you are the same as 02:23:05.239 --> 02:23:09.479 the Hamatos. So she finally gets her answer. 02:23:11.879 --> 02:23:14.680 I guess you guys are stuck with me for real, 02:23:14.799 --> 02:23:19.020 huh? I hope so, Mikey says. That's a great line. 02:23:19.200 --> 02:23:21.680 That's such a great thing for Mikey to say. I 02:23:21.680 --> 02:23:23.959 guess you guys are stuck with me, which is kind 02:23:23.959 --> 02:23:27.100 of a negative, self -deprecating way to say that. 02:23:27.219 --> 02:23:32.040 And then Mikey is so quick to flip that around 02:23:32.040 --> 02:23:38.139 to make it not sting. Absolutely. He didn't say, 02:23:38.200 --> 02:23:45.159 I guess so. Nope, I hope so. Good. Absolutely. 02:23:45.600 --> 02:23:48.879 When do we get the tenth cut part, though? And 02:23:48.879 --> 02:23:52.579 how's this gravity thing gonna beat Rat King? 02:23:53.319 --> 02:23:58.399 Maybe it'll let us, like, throw him into a black 02:23:58.399 --> 02:24:01.180 hole or something. Black holes have gravity, 02:24:01.239 --> 02:24:05.780 right? They do, Mikey, yeah, but and now all 02:24:05.780 --> 02:24:12.430 this brings me to the tong. The tenth cut. When 02:24:12.430 --> 02:24:16.170 you are together, your power, your radiant gravity, 02:24:16.209 --> 02:24:20.129 increases tenfold. The tenth cut will allow you 02:24:20.129 --> 02:24:23.670 to make use of that so you can defeat my brother, 02:24:23.870 --> 02:24:28.909 whose gravitational force dwarfs us all. And 02:24:28.909 --> 02:24:33.069 let's begin. God, look at this. Look at this. 02:24:33.590 --> 02:24:38.750 Still mesmerized by how many bat pockets Donnie 02:24:38.750 --> 02:24:42.270 has on his belt nowadays. I think we're ready. 02:24:42.350 --> 02:24:45.989 We can do this, you guys. We can do this, you 02:24:45.989 --> 02:24:51.670 guys, right? And man, just looking at this, the 02:24:51.670 --> 02:24:54.489 sea witch on the ground with her hands in the 02:24:54.489 --> 02:24:58.350 air, the old can opener standing there watching 02:24:58.350 --> 02:25:04.069 them all, and everybody just ready to go. God, 02:25:04.069 --> 02:25:08.190 it's so good. Man, the art on this book. Look 02:25:08.190 --> 02:25:14.000 at that light. That's right. They all... Oh, 02:25:14.020 --> 02:25:16.959 wow. Look at that. I didn't realize that. They're 02:25:16.959 --> 02:25:20.440 all in yellow. Obviously, it's shadow, but it's 02:25:20.440 --> 02:25:24.639 all... Oh, yep. Wow. That's very cool. Love that. 02:25:24.780 --> 02:25:27.860 Together. Interconnection. Unification. As a 02:25:27.860 --> 02:25:32.389 whole. Such good pages. And then we have this. 02:25:32.709 --> 02:25:35.329 As with ordinary gravity, radiant gravity extends 02:25:35.329 --> 02:25:37.950 throughout time, throughout the past, and into 02:25:37.950 --> 02:25:40.409 the future. Radiant force connects your past, 02:25:40.430 --> 02:25:43.450 present, and future. They all exist simultaneously. 02:25:46.510 --> 02:25:49.469 With the powers enacted by the tenth cut, you 02:25:49.469 --> 02:25:52.690 will tap into space -time itself. With all of 02:25:52.690 --> 02:25:54.149 this training they've been doing, the spiritual 02:25:54.149 --> 02:25:57.149 stuff, I'm interested in seeing how they do ultimately, 02:25:57.329 --> 02:26:02.840 eventually. handle the Rat King. Yeah, me too. 02:26:04.459 --> 02:26:08.739 Absolutely. Hard as the past, however painful 02:26:08.739 --> 02:26:13.860 it may be, witness your future, however overwhelming 02:26:13.860 --> 02:26:23.040 it may be. Your past shapes you and everybody. 02:26:23.079 --> 02:26:26.250 These pages. Yes, I know. I'm sorry. I know. 02:26:26.350 --> 02:26:31.110 These pages are amazing. Every turtle gets their 02:26:31.110 --> 02:26:39.969 moment to cut through. Absolutely. I noticed 02:26:39.969 --> 02:26:44.469 this reading through. Have you cheated and read 02:26:44.469 --> 02:26:48.590 the reboot stuff? Not the reboot, the issue one? 02:26:49.090 --> 02:26:51.549 Yeah, but I don't remember it, remember? I read 02:26:51.549 --> 02:26:55.770 issue one and two, but I don't remember. I read 02:26:55.770 --> 02:27:00.889 them when they originally came out. So each turtle 02:27:00.889 --> 02:27:03.629 is at the top of the page, and then these colored 02:27:03.629 --> 02:27:06.489 rips of fabric that match their bandanas go down, 02:27:06.510 --> 02:27:09.790 and we see generally two traumatic things and 02:27:09.790 --> 02:27:14.030 then their future. And their future stuff down 02:27:14.030 --> 02:27:17.870 here in the bottom. This... Okay, it's issue 02:27:17.870 --> 02:27:20.549 139. I don't know when this dude drew these pages. 02:27:20.809 --> 02:27:26.549 These are from the new book. Oh, really? Their 02:27:26.549 --> 02:27:35.610 future is coming out of post -150. No way! That's 02:27:35.610 --> 02:27:41.409 amazing. That somehow they knew that... he was 02:27:41.409 --> 02:27:43.309 going to be taking over the book and he had it 02:27:43.309 --> 02:27:46.610 outlined and they knew what to draw in these 02:27:46.610 --> 02:27:52.709 panels. Okay. So you remember when we had the, 02:27:52.709 --> 02:27:57.229 the reveal of, I think it's the reveal of Donnie 02:27:57.229 --> 02:28:01.290 with the shell reveal that Donnie was alive and 02:28:01.290 --> 02:28:05.709 you had the turtles react and then you had, I 02:28:05.709 --> 02:28:09.709 think it was Raph or it was probably all of them. 02:28:10.059 --> 02:28:15.920 No freaking way. There's an image somewhere on 02:28:15.920 --> 02:28:19.540 Facebook. I'll have to find it later after we're 02:28:19.540 --> 02:28:22.100 done recording. But there is an image of the 02:28:22.100 --> 02:28:26.860 four of them in the old style back before issue 02:28:26.860 --> 02:28:30.459 100 where all four of them, and I think it's 02:28:30.459 --> 02:28:34.620 Raph saying, maybe it's all of them. I think 02:28:34.620 --> 02:28:38.840 it is. I think it's Leo, Mikey, and Raph. No. 02:28:40.780 --> 02:28:48.000 Freaking way. Uh -huh. Don't you tell me this? 02:28:49.200 --> 02:28:54.360 Oh, freaking way. Oh, God. Which is why it's 02:28:54.360 --> 02:28:57.219 so great. Even though they renumbered it, even 02:28:57.219 --> 02:29:01.680 though they went back to number one. Look, we 02:29:01.680 --> 02:29:03.739 knew that that was going to happen at some point. 02:29:03.819 --> 02:29:08.100 We just didn't know when. At least the license 02:29:08.100 --> 02:29:12.899 didn't leave IDW. At least we still have certain 02:29:12.899 --> 02:29:15.840 people working on it that we've known all this 02:29:15.840 --> 02:29:19.379 time. Again, as I've mentioned, looking forward 02:29:19.379 --> 02:29:22.100 to reading how Jason Aaron writes the characters. 02:29:22.219 --> 02:29:26.719 Very much so. But the fact that I didn't even 02:29:26.719 --> 02:29:30.600 really realize that the future stuff here in 02:29:30.600 --> 02:29:34.739 this is actually what's going to happen in the 02:29:34.739 --> 02:29:39.690 new series? Uh -huh. That just makes this book 02:29:39.690 --> 02:29:42.209 even better! Even more so than it already could 02:29:42.209 --> 02:29:45.389 be. Like, he's James Bond in the new book? What 02:29:45.389 --> 02:29:53.250 the hell? That's funny. Nice, nice, nice. Donnie? 02:29:53.350 --> 02:29:57.229 What's Donnie doing? Grim Reaper Donnie? Wait 02:29:57.229 --> 02:30:00.750 a minute. I can't tell exactly, and I haven't 02:30:00.750 --> 02:30:03.090 read the Donatello issue yet, but the turtle 02:30:03.090 --> 02:30:06.700 ghosty things in the back. look like they could 02:30:06.700 --> 02:30:12.780 be the last Ronin turtles. Oh, okay. But, but 02:30:12.780 --> 02:30:16.360 I, I haven't seen Donnie related to the last 02:30:16.360 --> 02:30:18.379 Ronin turtles. And so there's something else 02:30:18.379 --> 02:30:21.299 going on possibly with those. Cause yeah, I mean, 02:30:21.319 --> 02:30:23.819 he's dead. Donnie's would be dead by the time 02:30:23.819 --> 02:30:27.639 the last Ronin turtles were born. The new, the 02:30:27.639 --> 02:30:32.059 new update. That's so cool. Yeah. But I love 02:30:32.059 --> 02:30:34.479 this. So we have all four of them, and then we 02:30:34.479 --> 02:30:39.639 have this intertwined bandana. Basically, it's... 02:30:39.639 --> 02:30:43.840 If you turn... Here, let me see if I can do this. 02:30:44.020 --> 02:30:48.959 Where is that thing? Here we go. Either way, 02:30:49.059 --> 02:30:50.879 it doesn't matter. Look at it. It's Infinity. 02:30:51.479 --> 02:30:55.260 Hello? Are you talking? Yeah. I'm looking at 02:30:55.260 --> 02:30:59.610 your screen share. Yeah. It's infinity. I rotated 02:30:59.610 --> 02:31:06.129 the page. See? Oh! So you rotate it sideways. 02:31:08.149 --> 02:31:15.489 It's infinity. Yeah. At first I thought, oh, 02:31:15.510 --> 02:31:20.290 it's just a crazy eight to get to the panel. 02:31:20.469 --> 02:31:23.639 It's just a way to get an eight in there. Get 02:31:23.639 --> 02:31:25.379 them all together, whatever. And then I'm like, 02:31:25.440 --> 02:31:27.979 wait. Like, literally, I turned my, like, I have 02:31:27.979 --> 02:31:31.360 my head leaned over to the left. Like, my head's 02:31:31.360 --> 02:31:33.399 leaned up against the cart window. And I'm like, 02:31:33.420 --> 02:31:35.700 wait a minute. I can just rotate the image. Like, 02:31:35.719 --> 02:31:38.360 yeah, it's infinity. As the turtles are forever. 02:31:39.159 --> 02:31:42.680 Ding, ding, ding, ding. It is a little concerning 02:31:42.680 --> 02:31:45.219 that the top of that is the morning over splinter. 02:31:45.299 --> 02:31:47.340 And then the bottom one is all of them going, 02:31:47.440 --> 02:31:50.059 all five of them going their separate ways. Which 02:31:50.059 --> 02:31:52.000 I'm always so scared of when the turtles do that. 02:31:52.180 --> 02:31:57.180 But I'm hoping. Well, actually, I know what happens 02:31:57.180 --> 02:32:01.780 post -150, so that image makes sense and it's 02:32:01.780 --> 02:32:03.959 not the end. Because, like you said, the turtles 02:32:03.959 --> 02:32:05.920 are infinite. I think you're right. I think it's 02:32:05.920 --> 02:32:10.440 going to be fine. Absolutely. And Leo says, it's 02:32:10.440 --> 02:32:13.459 not fated. We can still decide for ourselves. 02:32:13.819 --> 02:32:16.959 Yeah. Even with a casualty loop, we can still 02:32:16.959 --> 02:32:26.379 change the future. Or we can try, at least. Mikey 02:32:26.379 --> 02:32:30.420 says, yeah, but I feel like maybe the Armageddon 02:32:30.420 --> 02:32:35.299 game is our last big hurrah, you know? I just 02:32:35.299 --> 02:32:38.440 feel like maybe we won't bounce back from this 02:32:38.440 --> 02:32:41.399 one. Not like we used to. It gets harder and 02:32:41.399 --> 02:32:44.020 harder every time. All the stuff that keeps happening 02:32:44.020 --> 02:32:49.399 to us and people we care about. Maybe we shouldn't 02:32:49.399 --> 02:32:52.860 hold things together. What? Why would you say 02:32:52.860 --> 02:32:56.709 that, Raph? All that stuff Kitsune's saying about 02:32:56.709 --> 02:33:00.430 us pulling people into our orbit, and whether 02:33:00.430 --> 02:33:05.170 they want to be there or not, and whatever. Maybe 02:33:05.170 --> 02:33:08.649 if we go our separate ways, it'll separate, it'll 02:33:08.649 --> 02:33:11.389 spare everyone else all the problems we keep 02:33:11.389 --> 02:33:16.750 causing. And this causes them to think, and then 02:33:16.750 --> 02:33:21.229 this breaks up the armor, and then, you know. 02:33:22.200 --> 02:33:26.159 One light goes out, they all go out. Sorry. It's 02:33:26.159 --> 02:33:29.500 a 12 days of Christmas thing. You are ready. 02:33:29.879 --> 02:33:34.399 Rat King awaits you now. You must... Ah, here's 02:33:34.399 --> 02:33:40.280 where you've been hiding, sister. No. Oh. Get 02:33:40.280 --> 02:33:43.790 out. He's so terrible. Very sneaky of you, even 02:33:43.790 --> 02:33:46.930 with your little martial art lessons. I want 02:33:46.930 --> 02:33:50.770 you all to know that you still don't stand a 02:33:50.770 --> 02:33:55.670 chance you never did. To be continued. And then 02:33:55.670 --> 02:33:59.729 we get the alternate covers. Very, very cool 02:33:59.729 --> 02:34:04.049 alternate covers. And then the TMNT Reborn Volume 02:34:04.049 --> 02:34:08.270 7 Isolation alternate cover. And then the game 02:34:08.270 --> 02:34:16.040 escalates. So, yeah, folks, that is, as they 02:34:16.040 --> 02:34:20.799 say, that. Interesting to note. Yes. I'm sorry. 02:34:20.899 --> 02:34:26.319 My last page of that book is the Armageddon game 02:34:26.319 --> 02:34:31.600 checklist. Oh, nice. And by this point, everything 02:34:31.600 --> 02:34:35.159 had come out except for the final issue of Armageddon 02:34:35.159 --> 02:34:39.500 games. turtles 139 what we just read is right 02:34:39.500 --> 02:34:42.739 before the last issue and so that's kind of interesting 02:34:42.739 --> 02:34:45.520 i didn't catch that the last time they all had 02:34:45.520 --> 02:34:47.440 red checks in it oh except for the bottom one 02:34:47.440 --> 02:34:51.139 oh okay so now i i see where all of these were 02:34:51.139 --> 02:34:56.340 tying in so technically You could do Armageddon 02:34:56.340 --> 02:34:59.420 game next and then do Volume 8? Probably. I'm 02:34:59.420 --> 02:35:01.819 going to let you tell me, because you've got 02:35:01.819 --> 02:35:03.420 the trades, and so I'm going to read whatever's 02:35:03.420 --> 02:35:07.219 in your trade. I don't mess that up. Let's see 02:35:07.219 --> 02:35:11.979 here. Volume 8 is... More behind -the -scenes 02:35:11.979 --> 02:35:17.879 stuff, folks. Volume 8 is... Demon 2 Reborn Volume 02:35:17.879 --> 02:35:24.409 8. Damage done! All right. This collects... Originally 02:35:24.409 --> 02:35:30.049 published as TMNT Annual 2023 and TMNT Issues 02:35:30.049 --> 02:35:36.010 140 to 144. So if the final issue of Armageddon 02:35:36.010 --> 02:35:41.190 Game came out between 139, which is the final 02:35:41.190 --> 02:35:45.209 issue of Isolation, and 140, and there's nothing 02:35:45.209 --> 02:35:49.610 about Armageddon Game past 140, it should be 02:35:49.610 --> 02:35:53.299 good, I think. I think I'll have to check. I'll 02:35:53.299 --> 02:35:55.200 have to double check, which I will do in an ad 02:35:55.200 --> 02:35:57.180 break. So we'll be right back right after this. 02:35:57.739 --> 02:36:00.920 One, two, three, four. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. 02:36:03.579 --> 02:36:07.040 Hello, geeks and geekettes. 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Finally figured out 02:40:37.059 --> 02:40:42.959 what the hell we're doing. Yay. They make it 02:40:42.959 --> 02:40:48.399 so hard. I just had to make sure it wasn't going 02:40:48.399 --> 02:40:51.260 to continue past a certain issue number. And 02:40:51.260 --> 02:40:54.959 we've adjusted accordingly. So, next episode, 02:40:55.159 --> 02:40:58.639 we will be covering all of the Armageddon game, 02:40:58.780 --> 02:41:02.159 which I have just found out is in two trade paperbacks. 02:41:02.239 --> 02:41:06.059 The Armageddon game and the... What does it say 02:41:06.059 --> 02:41:12.239 here? The Armageddon game and the... Who say? 02:41:12.459 --> 02:41:16.739 The Armageddon game, The Alliance. So they, so 02:41:16.739 --> 02:41:20.379 far, have only got the two trades. Obviously, 02:41:20.420 --> 02:41:21.899 you have single issues, but we're not doing that. 02:41:23.860 --> 02:41:30.940 Oh, wait. Damn it. Opening moves, Alliance. Opening 02:41:30.940 --> 02:41:35.219 moves, Alliance, and the regular series. Okay, 02:41:35.360 --> 02:41:38.239 well, you're going to get three trades, one podcast. 02:41:39.559 --> 02:41:45.979 No cups. We'll make it fast. We promise. But 02:41:45.979 --> 02:41:50.559 then again, it's usually an hour, hour and a 02:41:50.559 --> 02:41:53.059 half sometimes, depending on, I mean, well, that 02:41:53.059 --> 02:41:56.020 Last Ronin episode was like three hours, but 02:41:56.020 --> 02:41:58.079 that was the Last Ronin, which we got to get 02:41:58.079 --> 02:42:00.219 back to doing that too, because I got to look 02:42:00.219 --> 02:42:03.100 and see when Last Ronin 2 is fully traded. The 02:42:03.100 --> 02:42:06.940 re -evolution, as you mentioned before we went 02:42:06.940 --> 02:42:11.629 to break, something about the new the new Last 02:42:11.629 --> 02:42:15.569 Ronin Turtles, and I was like, wait, what? And 02:42:15.569 --> 02:42:20.889 then I remembered, oh, right, that's... Ben Bishop. 02:42:21.049 --> 02:42:25.149 Ah, gosh, what a lucky creator. Yeah, good old 02:42:25.149 --> 02:42:27.790 Ben. Good old Ben Bishop. Gotta love that guy. 02:42:28.069 --> 02:42:29.969 Alright, folks, that's gonna do it for us. Anything 02:42:29.969 --> 02:42:32.069 you would like to say, sir, before I run through 02:42:32.069 --> 02:42:37.479 the closing? Uh, go buy the Mirage Ears. Volume 02:42:37.479 --> 02:42:40.159 two. The volume two reprint. That's all I got. 02:42:40.319 --> 02:42:43.360 All right. This was great. Absolutely. Always 02:42:43.360 --> 02:42:45.989 is. Thank you for joining us here inside the 02:42:45.989 --> 02:42:47.930 pull bag. If you'd like to get in contact with 02:42:47.930 --> 02:42:49.430 us and leave feedback for the show, there are 02:42:49.430 --> 02:42:52.049 several ways to do so. 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Very awesome. 02:43:25.250 --> 02:43:27.750 Absolutely, absolutely. Join us next time. As 02:43:27.750 --> 02:43:29.670 I mentioned, we will be discussing the Armageddon 02:43:29.670 --> 02:43:32.270 game, the entirety of the Armageddon game, from 02:43:32.270 --> 02:43:34.729 opening moves to last moves to middle moves to 02:43:34.729 --> 02:43:37.290 right moves, left moves. Two minutes for high 02:43:37.290 --> 02:43:41.170 -sticking. Crossover with Naruto. Oh, God. Don't 02:43:41.170 --> 02:43:43.430 even get me. Oh, God. There's so many freaking 02:43:43.430 --> 02:43:46.309 crossovers that we haven't covered. Oh, it's 02:43:46.309 --> 02:43:49.530 so terrible. Don't even get me started. You know, 02:43:49.610 --> 02:43:51.770 they still haven't done one yet that they're 02:43:51.770 --> 02:43:54.350 supposed to do. I don't know if they can do it. 02:43:54.610 --> 02:43:57.229 But it would be a perfect time for them to do 02:43:57.229 --> 02:44:00.850 it, considering, you know, earlier this month, 02:44:00.870 --> 02:44:06.299 he was born again. Oh, yes. I want my Daredevil. 02:44:07.799 --> 02:44:12.540 Something you've been wanting a long time. Oh, 02:44:12.559 --> 02:44:15.600 God. Yeah, man. You're going to have a hard time 02:44:15.600 --> 02:44:17.639 finding me for that podcast because I'm going 02:44:17.639 --> 02:44:19.700 to be running up and down the street naked shouting. 02:44:19.799 --> 02:44:25.860 No, you're not. It finally happened! Look, did 02:44:25.860 --> 02:44:27.739 you read this trade? I'm going to call the cops. 02:44:29.219 --> 02:44:31.659 Shouldn't you be in your basement podcasting 02:44:31.659 --> 02:44:35.159 with your other friend? No, the world has to 02:44:35.159 --> 02:44:37.739 know they finally did it. Matt Murdock met the 02:44:37.739 --> 02:44:42.340 turtles. That's right. I mean, if Batman can 02:44:42.340 --> 02:44:46.040 meet the turtles, come on, Marvel. Come on, Disney. 02:44:46.260 --> 02:44:50.719 Get your shit together. That might be the holdup 02:44:50.719 --> 02:44:53.879 now. I mean, with the DC, it's a little easier 02:44:53.879 --> 02:44:55.899 to get a hold of them, but if they want to cross 02:44:55.899 --> 02:44:58.100 over with Marvel properties, they have to go 02:44:58.100 --> 02:45:06.340 to the mouse. I mean, IDW did do... Yeah, they 02:45:06.340 --> 02:45:08.180 published some Spider -Man kids comics. Well, 02:45:08.180 --> 02:45:10.340 they published some Spider -Man kid comics, but 02:45:10.340 --> 02:45:13.819 they also published some Disney adventure comics, 02:45:14.000 --> 02:45:17.440 too. So they did have, I don't know what... I 02:45:17.440 --> 02:45:20.739 don't know. I don't work for IDW. I don't know. 02:45:20.899 --> 02:45:23.700 All right, that's it. I need Bobby's email. Give 02:45:23.700 --> 02:45:25.719 me Bobby's email. I got to get that guy on the 02:45:25.719 --> 02:45:30.020 phone. I will cut you about that off air. But 02:45:30.020 --> 02:45:33.040 anyway, next time, as I mentioned, the Armageddon 02:45:33.040 --> 02:45:35.760 game, the whole of the Armageddon game. What 02:45:35.760 --> 02:45:39.620 the hell was that? I don't know. Well, that was 02:45:39.620 --> 02:45:43.000 a crime, you cursed scrubbing pukes. And this 02:45:43.000 --> 02:45:47.979 is the penalty. Two minutes for slashing, two 02:45:47.979 --> 02:45:51.420 minutes for hooking, and lest I forget my personal 02:45:51.420 --> 02:45:56.540 favorite, two minutes for a high stick. How about 02:45:56.540 --> 02:45:58.860 a five -minute game misconduct for roughing, 02:45:58.959 --> 02:46:02.739 pal? Hey, bogey, now who died and made you referee? 02:46:02.979 --> 02:46:04.600 You did your job, now get out of here and let 02:46:04.600 --> 02:46:06.299 me do mine. These JV lowlifes need to be taught 02:46:06.299 --> 02:46:08.959 a lesson. Not like that, they don't. Not from 02:46:08.959 --> 02:46:13.000 you. You know the lines, folks. For now, I am 02:46:13.000 --> 02:46:15.819 TFG and Mike with... Joe Reed. As always, make 02:46:15.819 --> 02:46:17.540 your greatest game in the comics, and we will 02:46:17.540 --> 02:46:21.180 catch you next time. That's not creepy at all. 02:46:21.399 --> 02:46:24.379 Thank you, Stephen Bloom. That's right. That's 02:46:24.379 --> 02:46:27.200 right, that's right, that's right. All right, 02:46:27.340 --> 02:46:34.059 so... Oh, it's over here. I had to move things 02:46:34.059 --> 02:46:37.360 around. I'm like, what did I do with my drink? 02:46:37.479 --> 02:46:39.579 I know I put my drink. It's over here on my left 02:46:39.579 --> 02:46:41.840 now. I'm used to it over here being on my right 02:46:41.840 --> 02:46:43.260 because I'm used to the microphone being on the 02:46:43.260 --> 02:46:44.979 left. I'm like, where the fuck did my drink go? 02:46:45.600 --> 02:46:47.899 Now the microphone's on the right. I don't want 02:46:47.899 --> 02:46:50.139 to have to reach down and around the microphone. 02:46:50.819 --> 02:46:52.559 So I'm like, wait a minute. Where'd it go? Who 02:46:52.559 --> 02:46:55.239 stole my drink? Give me my drink back. I've got 02:46:55.239 --> 02:46:58.040 so much stuff and action figures all over my 02:46:58.040 --> 02:47:01.760 desk and in this room. I'm so afraid during recording 02:47:01.760 --> 02:47:03.680 that I'm going to do something that makes this 02:47:03.680 --> 02:47:08.100 awful, awful racket. I'll explain it when it 02:47:08.100 --> 02:47:12.340 happens. Someday. Sorry, guys. Just playing with 02:47:12.340 --> 02:47:15.639 my toys. Oh, we know. We've heard it before. 02:47:15.780 --> 02:47:19.719 I've left that in before. You can't see the... 02:47:19.719 --> 02:47:23.659 I'll shoot you a picture in Messenger here. you 02:47:23.659 --> 02:47:26.319 cannot see the drink it's over to the left of 02:47:26.319 --> 02:47:29.360 where where the where the mouse is there but 02:47:29.360 --> 02:47:31.280 that's the new setup where the microphone is 02:47:31.280 --> 02:47:33.280 now the microphone used to be on the left of 02:47:33.280 --> 02:47:37.079 where the monitor is so now that it's on the 02:47:37.079 --> 02:47:39.280 right and i'm like damn it i can't reach for 02:47:39.280 --> 02:47:41.399 my drink anymore because it's not there because 02:47:41.399 --> 02:47:44.799 it's would be under the microphone and no all 02:47:44.799 --> 02:47:49.959 right you've just heard the latest episode of 02:47:49.959 --> 02:47:53.799 the pullback the GCRN's first comic review and 02:47:53.799 --> 02:47:56.459 discussion podcast. 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