Hi, this is Larry Dottilio, writer for He -Man
and Beast Wars, and you are listening to the
Geekcast Radio Network. He -Man and the Masters
of the Universe! Hello, this is Optimus Solo,
and welcome to the 124th chapter in our Powers
of Greyskull series. With me for this journey
into the Masters of the Universe franchise is
TFG1 Mike. Hello. Hello. People thought they
were done with us. We continue to keep going.
So, long time no talk. Last time we talked, we
talked about the 2002 He -Man series. Yep. And
people might have thought we were done, but are
you ready to return to Eternia, sir? Kind of.
Sort of. Not really. Ready or not, what are we
going to be talking about in today's episode?
There's no more cartoons. For now. There's no
more cartoons for now. Now, we are transported
back. 34? Yeah, 34 years ago. Lord, we're old.
I'm old. 34 years ago, 1987, the live -action
He -Man and the Masters of the Universe film
starring Dolph Lundgren, Frank Langella. Thankfully,
I don't have to actually look at anything to
remember that, because hello. Directed by Gary
Goddard, it was released August 7th, 1987. Interesting
that they did that because that is one year and
one day before the epic release of August 8th,
1986 in Transformers, the movie. Interesting.
So yes, this is going to be our commentary on
the film. We are actually going to watch the
film and comment on it as we go along. We will
be doing a countdown here in a few moments. So
we are both synced up so we can each watch it
on our own. So if you have a DVD version or if
you have the ability to pull it up on whatever
streaming platform or whatever methods you have,
this would be the time to get it queued up and
we'll let you know when to start. Yep, absolutely.
Uh, so let me ask you, did you, you were six
years old when this came out? Correct. Did you
see this in theaters? Did your parents take it?
You're, uh, you know, I'm 95 % sure that we saw
this in theaters because I had already seen the
transformers movie in theaters the year before.
Um, and I'm pretty sure this was, might've been
the next film we went to, unless there was some
type of like animated. thing that we went to.
We didn't go to a lot of movies, but I, for some
reason, remember going to this one. Now that
could be just me remembering wrong. Cause like
you said, I was six and I don't specifically
remember it, but for some reason I want to say
that, yes, I did see this in the theater. I was
seven and I don't think I saw this in the theater.
I, I don't know. Right. But I mean, like, and
again, you know, for me, the first, film i actively
remember seeing in theaters uh is most likely
batman 89 or something like that i know i did
not because again we weren't we went to the theaters
but we weren't a theater goat we were like you
know let's just wait till it hits cable wait
till it hits vhs obviously back then you're waiting
two or three years versus you know six months
which is what or you know hell now that the pandemic
has hit us you know oh hey guess what streaming
at home yay Which I'm all for that. You know
what? As much as I respect and love and I've
had a love for movie theaters for years, for
my entire life, at this point in my life, I want
to control my media. I don't want to deal with,
you know, I just mentioned this in an episode
of Studio 2009 where Mike the Birdman Dot is
helping me do 12 Months of Star Wars. We're going
through every episode of... all nine films of
the star Wars Skywalker saga thing. And I just
mentioned this to him. I'm like, I want to control
the media. I don't want to have to worry about
going to the bathroom and missing something.
I can just pause it and be fine. You know? So
yeah, especially if you have like a theater in
your basement or something like that, like you
do. Comes in handy. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So
we hope you are ready because it is time to head
to Eternia in this Masters of the Universe 1987
film commentary. You're going to hear the trailer
right here. At the far end of the universe, there
is a planet ruled by a being of utter evil. And
there is only one man who dares challenge him.
They are locked in a battle to the death. A battle
that will take them across the heavens. A battle
that will finally be fought. Across the face.
Of Earth. I think I'm going to need some backup.
can you show us the way no from a distant galaxy,
they have come to Earth. Dolph Lundgren as He
-Man. Frank Langella as Skeletor. Only they have
the powers to be Masters of the Universe. Live
the adventure. And now we will do a countdown.
In 3, 2, 1, play. All right. First up, the company
logo, Canon. They would not be in business much
longer. This was one of they were doing this
and they were doing something else. They had
plans to do a Spider -Man movie, like a big time,
big budget Spider -Man movie. And because this
one and whatever the other film was didn't do
too well, they never got to do that Spider -Man
film. So very short lived. You saw Canon first?
Yeah, mine's going through Gary Goddard and Dolph
Lundgren and all the names on the screen. We
probably have two different versions, so we'll
have to... Yeah, this version that I'm doing
started out with the MGM logo, and now it's in
association with... Now I see Gary's name. Okay.
I'll get you... I'll get caught up with you for
a second. Because the first thing we're going
to see is Castle Grayskull. Mm -hmm. Are you
seeing that yet? Yep, right now. Alright. Interesting
thing about this set right here, it became the
biggest set ever used within the last 40 years
in a movie. They took two sound stages and broke
the wall in the middle of it down so that it
was two sound stages combined. So it was a very
large set for some reason to capture that Castle
Greyskull. It looks like a very cool design,
too. Yeah, and the movie poster for this one
should have signified to everybody right away
that there was going to be some weird things
about this film. Because the movie poster has
Dolph Lundgren as He -Man standing in the middle
of it, and then it's got the two kids at the
bottom holding a device, and then it has Skeletor's
head above it. So you can kind of see right from
the get -go that it's not going to look like
the cartoon. No. Now, they stated that they weren't
trying to base this off of the cartoon. They
were trying to base this off of the toy line.
Yeah. So it was not supposed to necessarily look
hand in hand with what the cartoon did. But I
think that's one of the things that probably
was the biggest surprise to viewers, to fans.
You know, when we're watching the cartoon and
we're used to how things look and this, that
and the other. And then you go, you know, you
know, it's going to be live action. So it's going
to be a little bit different. when you show up
and there's so many differences from the cartoon,
I think it threw a lot of people off. Like, is
this a He -Man movie or is this just something
else with the He -Man name? Cause they had good.
And I swear I read an article or something with
the director, Gary Goddard, where he was more
influenced by Jack Kirby's fourth world stuff.
Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. And I mean, obviously some
of it is just from a, what was possible at the
time from a budget standpoint and things like
that. Like they can't make a flying Orko in this
movie. They can't make, you know, battle cat
and cranger. It's not, you know, it took us until
just a couple of years ago to do that type of
stuff. So, but we're seeing that it's interesting
too, that the film starts off with, with Skeletor
and we're on Eternia. So you don't get a lot
of Eternia in this movie, but we start here and
I think this is a great setup. Yeah, this is
an amazing scene. Regardless of how you feel,
the Black Stormtroopers, which we do get a lot
of robots almost reminiscent of Hordak's Horde
robots, which we wouldn't see normally in a He
-Man universe because you get the evil warriors,
you don't get robots, but they were forced to
do that because of Mattel. who basically gave
them a directive that He -Man or any of the good
characters could not kill anybody. You know,
it's coming off the heels of Optimus Prime dying
and Duke being put in a coma, and now you can't
kill anybody. Holy crap, look at Skeletor. Yeah,
Skeletor is amazing in this film. Regardless
of how you feel about any of the other characters
and the looks and this, that, and the other,
I think Skeletor was perfect. And Frank Langella
was great. It was nice to see somebody that was
actually excited about the role and who didn't
try to shit on it later. Yeah, exactly. Dolph
Lundgren cannot say the same thing. He was kind
of mean after the fact about this and acting
like it was beneath him. And I liked that Langella
was mature enough to be like, you know what?
I'm not so proud that I can't do a fun kids movie.
He did it for his son, who was a big He -Man
fan. It's interesting, too, that we get to see
the sorceress. Basically, captured right off
the bat. Right. Skeletor has already won. Right.
So, Sorceress is being held captive by Skeletor,
which is an interesting way to start. It kind
of gets us right off the bat, like, oh, shoot,
what's going on here? Yeah. I do not. I do not
like her design. No, I'm not a huge fan of hers
either. They took away most of the color and
made it all white, crystalline, and see -through
type stuff. I was more of a fan of the rainbow,
not the rainbow, but the multicolor thing that
we get. Blue, orange, and white. Absolutely.
The Sorceress is played by Christina Pickles,
who interestingly plays the mother of Courtney
Cox on Friends later on in life. Courtney Cox
obviously appears in this movie as well. We have
Skeletor doing like a holographic vision to He
-Man. That's the first time we get to see He
-Man. Interesting part about He -Man, I don't
mind the outfit. I don't mind the look of him.
I think Dolph Lundgren at the time was a good
choice to play him. But interesting that we will
see no Prince Adam in this movie. Yeah, no, he's
He -Man the whole time. And again, I've said
this before. I said this recently with the cartoons.
Sadly, the 2002 series only got 39 episodes.
And back in the day, we were only worried about
episode by episode. We weren't worried about
overall continuity in the 80s. They were doing
single stories. Comics is where they can flush
all that out. It really, really is. And they
have. DC has done an amazing job doing various
Masters of the Universe comics for a while now.
I think the only thing I don't like about He
-Man in this is the power sword looks very wimpy.
And he's also shooting people. Yeah, I don't
like that either. Which he never did, really.
It's interesting that we take one of the main
things about He -Man, which is the transformation
from Adam to He -Man, back and forth, and we
just eliminate that from this whole show. We
get to see Man -at -Arms and Teela. in this sequence,
which obviously they have a different look. Man
-at -Arms, I mean, he's kind of close. He's still
got the helmet. He's still got some of the armor
and stuff like that. Yeah, so he looks close.
Teela doesn't really look at all like Teela.
I like this version better than the cartoon version,
honestly. I don't know. Maybe it's just the actress,
but she doesn't come off as bitchy as Teela does
in a lot of things. The other interesting thing
about Dolph Lundgren, who's playing He -Man right
here, is that obviously he's a Swedish actor,
and they were very worried about his voice. Oh,
yes. The original plan was to not have his voice
be featured at all. He was supposed to be physically
the character, and then once they were done,
they were going to re -dub his voice with somebody
that sounded more with less of an accent that
could have come off more, I guess, English or
American, maybe. 1987, you know what they could
have done. Yeah, they could have done a voice
actor. They could have just had John Irwin gone
into a booth and read the lines. Because I think
if John Irwin, if they went that route and John
Irwin was, let's say Gildor for the first time
here, you know, if John Irwin was the voice,
I think a lot of people would have liked this
more at the time. Right. Absolutely. And it was
just another one of those things that came down
to budgets. Like they weren't able to have the
time to re -dub his lines. So Dolph Lundgren's
voice remained in there. even if it comes off
as obviously being a little bit different from
everybody else's. So, um, John, John Cypher is
playing man at arms there. I believe it's Chelsea
field who's playing Tila. And then we get Gwildor
who is Billy Barty. Yep. Um, and obviously Gwildor
is there instead of Orko. That is, that is specifically
like that was a choice. That's not just like
another random character. That is a character
that is mainly supposed to almost be taking Orko's
role. Yeah. But they couldn't do Orko. He's very,
he's very yogurt in my mind watching this again.
He's very, just the size of the character, the
character design. It's very Mel Brooks, baseballs,
yogurt. And by far, this was my favorite part
of this film is the cosmic key. I always wanted
the cosmic key tones. I always wanted that stuff.
Right. Right. Oh, apparently there was like four
versions of the cosmic key that they had on set
as far as props go. Cool. Um, and I guess it
was so fragile and so easily broken that they
just had to like have people on hand at all times
to put it back together every time it broke.
But I guess it was hard to keep together because
of all the different parts and how it kind of
like expands and different stuff like that. And
then we get to see, obviously right here. Interesting
setup here. Obviously, we're seeing Eternia here
at the beginning of the film. We're going to
see the whole middle of the film all take place
on Earth, and then we'll see Eternia pop up again
at the end of the movie. That was another cost
-cutting way for them to save some money is to
do most things at Earth so they didn't have to
come up with otherworldly sets. Outside of the
few they did, obviously, with Castle Grayskull
there at the beginning and where we're at right
now. Master Universe did not do very well at
the box office. No, it did not. It had a budget
of about $22 million and brought in about $17
million. That's not counting all the other stuff
that goes along with making a movie and stuff
like that. You can say it became a cult favorite
afterwards on VHS, DVD, whatever you want to
say, but box office, not so great. It had a 17
% at Rotten Tomatoes. So, it's not a great score,
obviously. Continuing to see, obviously, Man
-at -Arms, Teela, and He -Man meeting Gwildor,
talking to Gwildor, finding out about what's
going to set up the rest of the movie, basically.
We got our first introduction to some more of
the evil characters. And this is where it kind
of goes. Up to this point, we've seen Skeletor,
we've seen the Sorceress, we've seen He -Man,
Man -at -Arms, Teela. Yes, we've been introduced
to Gwildor, but you could be like, well, that's
just for this movie type thing. It's not until
they start introducing the evil warriors that
you're like, wait, what's going on here? Because
these aren't characters that we're used to. Yeah.
I was not used to Blade or Karg and all that.
The only one that is from the series outside
of Evil Lynn is Beastman. Nobody else exists
from the cartoon that we're used to. And of course
we get robots like stormtroopers everywhere.
So obviously Skeletor and his minions have taken
over much of Eternia and basically claimed victory.
They got the sorcerers captured. He -Man, Man
-at -Arms, and Teela are basically almost...
stealth mission. It's reminiscent to Star Wars
at times when they're at Naboo trying to sneak
around because they've been captured and whatnot.
Similar to that, where they're trying to go in
and out the windows or different doorways and
things like that. Hey, at least this thing weren't
trying to scale up the window. Oh, God, I hated
that. That scene in the movie. Got the Olympic
flame back there on fire there. The everlasting
flame. Pretty sure that's the same one from the
Olympics. No, I'm just kidding. Oh, Lord. I agree
with you. I don't care for the sorceress in this.
She looks like a Christmas tree. She looks like
a really, really poorly lit Christmas tree is
what she looks like. Yeah. Like, I'm pretty sure
you can buy her crown and... put it on a Christmas
tree and it would be the same purpose. Probably,
most likely. They said they designed Castle Grayskull
as kind of like the house of all power in Eternia
without trying to designate whether it was good
power or bad power. So as we get to see different
parts of Castle Grayskull, you'll see that one
level is more dedicated to good and then the
other level has a lot more evil aspects because
They were kind of saying, you know, evil or the
power doesn't know good or evil. It's just exists.
So that's why we get kind of a gray skull that
has multi dimensions to it. It looks differently.
And obviously we get the appearance now of Evelyn
and Skeletor back to confront. Yup. Evelyn's
crazy. She's played by. um meg foster i believe
yep um and her eyes are very evil looking and
it's 100 natural like she has these crazy eyes
in real life that like look like they're a science
fiction like effect but it's just her eyes i
guess a lot of people thought for years that
like she was using some type of weird contacts
in this movie to make her look like more evil
and more like sci -fi ish but those are her natural
eyes So when you get a chance to see them, definitely
look at that. It's kind of interesting. And I
guess her costume was so heavy. I want to say
it was like 50 pounds or 45 pounds or something
like that. And I guess it like left bruises like
on her legs and her groin area and stuff like
that. Yeah. After she would have to wear it.
But she said it helped her kind of like stay
in character because she was so restricted in
her movements. And if you watch the movie, I'm
going to have to watch carefully this time as
we're watching the movie because I read online
that you're never going to see her sit because
of her outfit. I don't think she has the capability
of sitting down while wearing it. That wouldn't
surprise me. She's not the only one. Pansmar
is the name of one of the other guys. I want
to say it's Saurad, one of the other evil warriors.
You'll never see him sit either. So some of these
costumes are very restrictive. Oh, I don't doubt
it. Most costumes in the 80s films were very
restrictive. I mean, you know, again, briefly,
because we just released the Batman 89. Well,
we will release Batman 89 for Studio 2009. Yeah.
Keaton's first costume. you know, restrictive.
I mean, you can even, you can even see it on
Evelyn. That is just a massive piece of metal
that she's wearing from basically her whole torso,
chest, stomach, you know, groin area. Yep. So
this is where we're going to be leaving the Eternia
here shortly. So take in whatever you want to
from the visuals here, cause you're not going
to get to see much more of it. No. Till the end.
Yeah. Jump through the, uh, The time corridor?
The corridor here. The time corridor. This is
like one of the first times where it's looking
a little cheesy. Obviously, you're going to have
the laser beams being shot that look obviously
very 80s -ish, Star Wars -ish, but then when
we have these people flying through the time
corridor, it's like, okay, we'll just suspend
reality for a little while here while we watch
this. Yep. I did like the effect where they shoot
the grapple back. Yeah, that was good. And grab
the cosmic key. And frankly, it's just so good
with Skeletor. He is his voice, his mannerisms,
the way he's moving. I don't know what kind of
stuff he has on his costume besides, you know,
the robe and the whatever else. But I don't know.
I mean, he looks like he's moving fairly fine
and he looks like he's fine in that skull mask.
Yeah, I could be completely. I didn't read anything
about him having any costume problems, really.
It was mainly some of the other characters that
did. Oh, here they're flying back in, looking
ridiculous. And now we're on Earth. Yep. The
bulldog can't swim, apparently. So this is like
one of those fish -out -of -water type situations.
Where we have all these characters on Earth and
they know nothing about the customs. They're
walking around in the medieval garb with swords
and shit. It's funny. Gwildor definitely can't
swim. Interesting, too, that we didn't get to
see any other... They kept it very limited as
far as the Masters that we see. The whole movie
is titled Masters of the Universe, but we get
to see three of them. Yeah. I mean, technically
four if you count the sorceress, but she was
never really... I mean, but yeah. I get that
you're not going to be able to do Stratos and
anybody that's flying, that nature. And a lot
of the other masters had different gimmicky type
things, like you're not going to have mechanic,
can't do the neck thing, you're not going to
have mani faces, probably too hard to do the
face thing. Ramman you could probably have, but
he would never be able to ram anything. He would,
but it would just like his, yeah, his design,
you would have to basically just copy the filmmation
design and just have him run into stuff. It wouldn't,
there would be no effect. There would be no bounce
bounce, which is crazy because look what star
Wars did almost 10 years before this. Right.
You know, I mean, star Wars did a whole lot of
stuff, even though it doesn't in the grand scheme
of things nowadays. Star Wars, there's much more
technology now, but compare this to that. Star
Wars did a hell of a lot more than what this
movie did. Absolutely. So since they're trying
to track the key and whatever else, and they
haven't found it yet, I want to bring up the
fact that La La Land Records in 2012 released
a two -disc score for this film. And sadly, it's
now out of print. There's one, one copy available
on Amazon for $50. Now, normally low line record
stuff ranges between 20 and depending on what,
like, I mean, a lethal weapon for, you know,
a lethal weapon for CD, you know, kind of, you
know, all four film kind of thing. That's going
to go for like a hundred bucks. But this thing.
I wish I had it because it says on CD to cosmic
key music, 14 seconds. I'm like, Oh damn you.
And I'm sure I can find it on YouTube or whatever,
but it just, I need the music, man. Right. You
know, you were talking about a Skeletor's costume
and mask and different things like that. I didn't
find anything that said that it was necessarily
hard for him to wear. I did find an interesting
piece of trivia though, that Skeletor's mask
found new life. after this movie and appeared
on the sets of Star Trek The Next Generation
in 1987 and Star Trek Deep Space Nine 1993 as
the face of a skull -faced alien that Lieutenant
Worf often fights on the holodeck. So now I'm
going to have to find those episodes and find
Skeletor's mask in that. But we got our first
look at one of the main humans that we're going
to be following throughout the rest of this,
which is, of course, none other than the main
first appearance of Courtney Cox to the world.
Yep. So the future friends star scream star,
whatever else you want to say, basically got
her first big movie here. Ace Ventura. Yeah.
This is probably the, this is the most I could
put up with her because after this, I really
didn't care for her and anything else. It's funny.
I don't mind her as, as Melissa in, in Ace Ventura.
She's the publicist or whatever she is. She could
have been a decent April O 'Neil or somebody
like that, but I just did not like her on Friends.
I don't like Friends in general. I don't like
that. I've never liked Friends. Ever since the
90s, ever since I was a kid in the 90s, I always
found Seinfeld funnier. The only thing I really
ever referenced Friends for is, oh, they went
to a Hootie and the Blowfish concert. Cool. I
like a lot of the other characters. I just didn't
care for her. This is Robbie's Ribs and Chicken.
This restaurant here, that location is randomly
and kind of weirdly, that is the place where
Rodney King gets beat up in a couple years after
this. Yeah, that was where that happened, where
he got abused. So it just happens to be in the
same building that was repurposed, obviously,
for something else. And then we get her boyfriend.
Kevin. You had to say his name, didn't you? Well,
his name is your name now. It's Kevin Corrigan
played by Robert Duncan McNeil. He was also in
a Star Trek Voyager. It was one of his best known
roles. Lieutenant Tom Harris. Interesting. For
anybody that's a Star Trek fan, that's where
you would mainly see him later on in life. We
get the interesting aspects. Obviously, if you're
listening to this with audio, you'd be picking
up a lot of the... kind of the fish out of water
stuff that we were talking about before, where
they're coming across things that are not familiar
to them. Like we already saw the cow and we're
going to see, you know, different things like
that, where they're just like, they don't quite
understand what it is, what to do about it, how
to act, things like that. Dolph Lundgren, like
I was talking about before, said that working
on this film was a nightmare. He said the shooting
schedule was five months, including two months
of night shooting. He said he was approached
to do a sequel during the shooting and turn down
the offer. Because there was a sequel that was
going to be made if this movie would have done
better. Oh, wow. He did later tell in a website
interview of some sorts. It was when he was getting
ready for the release of The Expendables in 2010.
He did mention that he would return to appear
in a new Masters of the Universe movie as either
a cameo or He -Man, whatever he was able to pull
off. Obviously, he couldn't have pulled off He
-Man at that point in his life. He could have
pulled off an old He -Man, and honestly, since
we're talking about him, since Wildor's trying
to figure out the chicken and whatever else,
you know, Ever since The Expendables, I have
a new respect for Dolph as an older actor now.
And I really think he could pull off an old He
-Man or, hell, even a King Greyskull or something
like that. I feel like Gwildor could have pulled
off appearing in the Lord of the Rings franchise.
Isn't this like pre -Hobbit? I mean, he'd fit
in with all the other dwarves and whatnot. He
would have fit right in. Not some of them, not
too much of a fan. Tila is not a fan of the chicken
wing. No. Gwildor and Man at Arms doing a little
better with it. Yeah. But yeah, we'll, we'll
talk about it a little bit more later, but there
is a lot of information out there. Not a lot
of, I shouldn't say a lot of information, but
a lot of sites that are addressing the fact that
there was going to be a sequel. I got to say,
after hearing the premise of what it was going
to be like, I'm kind of glad that it didn't happen.
The main idea here is that it was going to, you
know, obviously take place years later. And that
it was going to be, it was going to include She
-Ra. It was going to include Trap Jaw. And I
can't remember who else. Somebody else. But it
was weird because Skeletor was going to be masquerading
around as an evil, almost like a sports agent,
but not a sports agent, like a bigwig, like a
Wall Street -type bigwig or a rich person. And
He -Man was going to come back and be masquerading
as a quarterback for a football team or something.
It sounded so ridiculous. So basically what you're
saying is, is Rod Tidwell versus Jay Moore. Yeah,
it was going to be bad. That's what it was going
to be. Like I would have been fine for seeing
those other characters, like especially She -Ra
and whatnot, but I don't want He -Man to be playing
a quarterback. And I don't want, I don't want
the evil, like the, you know, executive Skeletor.
Oh, look, the kids found the cosmic key. Music
maker. Music maker. What would you do if you
found something like that and you're holding
it in your hand and it's lighting up like that?
Probably put it back where it belongs. Put it
back in the ground? Yeah. I guarantee I'm not
going to start hitting buttons, I don't think.
I'd be afraid that it was going to explode or
something if I hit something. Well, when we first
see it in the ground, the giant red light is
blinking. You'd think that they wouldn't have
touched it because a giant red light is blinking.
Don't these kids know? And now Skeletor's giant
red light is blinking. Trying to track it from
one to the other. I forgot that we do get to
come back to Eternia here and there to see Skeletor.
It's also a funny movie if you try to put all
the different sci -fi terms and language that
they throw in it. parsecs and things like that,
or weird things. Not necessarily He -Man -like,
but they throw it in there. Yeah. Again, going
back to Goddard wanting to homage Jack Kirby's
Fourth World. Yeah. Oh, Van of the 80s. This
reminds me of Back to the Future. Oh, yeah. It
almost looks like the same stage. Yeah, like
they're getting set up for the, what was it?
Enchantment Under the Sea Dance. Yeah, Enchantment
Under the Sea Dance, except for we've got a little
bit different setup here. I really do think it's
almost the exact same stage, and that would be
kind of interesting, considering that Strickland
is in this movie. Oh, yeah. I forgot about him.
We haven't seen him yet. No, we won't see him
for a while yet, but... James Tolkien plays Detective
High. Hugh Lubick. Excuse me, not high. He's
not high, but he's Hugh. But obviously, most
people know him as Mr. Strickland from Back to
the Future. Slacker! Good stuff. Oh, look, a
musical light show. You fool. Put it down. And
there's also this part in this, not this part
specifically where they're on Eternia looking
for the cosmic key. Oh, I like that effect though,
even though it's a very cheap effect. I love
the spatial effect of how they're trying to track
the planet, you know, kind of thing. Yeah, that
is very cool for the time. That was good for
computer graphics at that time. Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, it was. But there's also this underlying
story thing in this movie where her parents are
dead. I believe, or her parents could die or
something like that. Yeah, that's what I thought.
Like, they are dead, but oh, wait, you know,
they don't have to be. We see a couple of the
people that they got here. We got Beastman and
Karg and Sarad and Blade and whatnot. I think
it was Karg, or whichever one is the lizard type
guy. You see his neck, like, inflate. and go
back and forth. He has a straw of some sort that
is connected to his mouth that he can inflate
and deflate that while he's in his costume. Beastman
being the only one that we get from the old one.
Blade was the one that always... I don't know.
That was the one that I found intriguing or interesting
or awesome as a kid. Obviously, Kar against Saurad
or whatever are freaky looking, so I wasn't drawn
to them. But I remember thinking Blade was kind
of badass. He was one that also had a very restrictive
costume. And at one point, he had a lot more
blades to it. It was covering a lot more of his
body. But in order for him not to basically overheat
and whatnot, they had to remove parts of it so
that his arms were free. So that he could breathe
a little bit easier. Wow. Yeah, he had these
huge metal pieces that were covering his whole
body at one point. And then they wanted him to
be in all kinds of makeup. um which he didn't
want to do so he like negotiated with him and
said what if i just shaved my head um instead
and i guess they said that was good enough so
that's why he's bald in this he's also responsible
for doing most of the choreography and the um
building up of any of the fight sequences especially
the two main ones um he had some expertise in
that realm so he wasn't just acting in this movie
but he was also choreographing a lot of the action
sequence because he is known as not only an actor,
but a stuntman and a fight choreographer. Very
cool, very cool. Yeah, he was known for his roles
in Highlander, the series. That's where he did
some stuff in some of the Indiana Jones. He taught
Michelle Pfeiffer how to use a bullwhip for her
role as Catwoman. So he had a lot of experiences
with fight choreography, stunt work, and things
like that. So he played a huge part in this film.
Obviously, we have the evil warriors now being
assembled, sent to Earth. Yep. And they're trying
to scare Courtney Cox, scream style. Janitor.
Janitors always get the shaft. Yep. What was
your opinion on Beastman? Overall, he's inconsequential.
I mean, I'm not expecting him to have full vocabulary
kind of thing. I don't expect any of these characters
in this movie to carry on a conversation like
they would in the cartoon series, but it just...
Outside of Evelyn and Skeletor, none of the characters,
even Blade. Blade was kind of cool, and like
you said, kind of curious about him, but like...
Beastman right here is basically just preparing
her for her scream days, essentially. You would
have thought that they could have turned Saurad,
I think that's the right one, into one of the
Snakemen almost, like a Cobra Khan type character.
Yeah. And you would think Beastman would not
have been the go -to guy to recreate if they
were going to create anybody. I would have thought
Triclops maybe could have been easier done, more
easily done than Beastman. Yeah. They didn't
do terrible with Beastman. I mean, he doesn't
look... super cheesy. No, but at the same time,
he does less here than he does in the actual
cartoon series. That's the only thing. Again,
these evil warriors are not here for their intelligence,
but they're basically here for fodder. The core
of the movie is Skeletor, Evelyn, and He -Man.
At first, I didn't know if Karg, I think that's
the one. Is Karg the one with the white hair?
Yep. At first I didn't know if that was a male
or a female character. Because the hair makes
it almost look feminine. But it's Courtney Cox
just running through like a what is this, like
a warehouse type situation? Yeah, it's some sort
of Not necessarily the best place to be when
you're trying to run away from these guys, I
don't think. I guess there's a lot of places
to hide, but you usually want to go around people.
Yeah, it's some sort of warehouse district or
something. Of course, she runs right into He
-Man's arms. She's freaked out because he also
looks like an alien. But don't worry, I'm going
to talk to you in sweet Swedish accents and you're
going to be feeling comfortable. And, of course,
the standard male -female pickup, you know. Look
in there. All about how Kark just makes the stormtroopers
look in random boxes. I'm just going to call
them stormtroopers or horde troopers. I don't
know. Oh, yeah. Whatever they are. Hell, at this
point, we could call them dark troopers. That's
true. Very true. It's just interesting when,
you know, thinking back to the first time you
ever watched this movie, it's definitely at this
point that you're... You're almost having a battle
within yourself on if this is a He -Man movie
or not. You know what I mean? They're on Earth.
We have humans. We have random characters that
we don't know who they are. We have He -Man,
though, and we have a couple other characters.
You're just not quite sure what to make of it,
I don't think, at this point. I don't know. We're
used to, as children of the 80s, we're used to
watching things like... turtles or transformers
or whatever series you want that always were
throwing like the human characters like as a
kid like it'd be like oh here's a bunch of robots
and we're going to give you one human character
that's also young you know a child of some sort
um and they did that in a lot of series even
even like series that weren't all aliens or robots
like you know look at mask or something like
that you still got the kid character um, that
was like, Oh, this is what the kids have to relate
to. This is how, so they can see themselves in
the story and whatnot. And it's weird because
this movie isn't quite doing that. They're not
giving us kid, but they're giving us like young
people that are humans, almost in the same manner
that you would see that in a cartoon. You know
what I mean? Like, it's like, here's people you're
supposed to relate to. Yeah. Here's one of the
fights we get with blade and he, man, that is
obviously choreographed by blade. Yep. With swords
and different things. Not too bad of action sequences
here. No, it's a good action sequence. I still
think He -Man's sword looks wimpy as hell, though.
Right. Oh, that was a creepy shot with Karg in
the background behind Courtney Cox. Yeah, grabbing
her. Yep. It was like a scene before that, though,
like a sequence before that. They showed him
in the background, and you didn't necessarily
see it at first. It was like, oh, he's just hiding
back there like a creeper. Mm -hmm. He -Man throwing
some people around. More red laser, blue laser.
Shooting a beast man. So that's our first interaction.
You know, the came in and everybody knows that
the evil warriors are on earth with them. So
we have that as a dilemma. Her fake crying is
so bad. Yeah, that's true. It was a decent choice
of having somebody that's going to be next to
Dolph Lundgren that's going to make Dolph Lundgren
look even bigger. Yeah, obviously. And now it's
so far removed because it's not our masters and
it's not even the main human. It's the main human's
boyfriend that has the quintessential device.
Probably because his name's Kevin. Yeah, well,
you know. It's your fault you went to Charlie's.
I don't even know where Charlie's is. Or Club
Zero, where this guy was. Exactly. And this is
supposed to be a pawn shop? Pawn shop, yeah.
Radio Shack or something? I think it's more like
a music store type thing. Oh, yeah, that's right.
It's a music store. Selling different instruments.
I haven't actually watched this movie in a decade.
It's got tambourines on the wall for some reason.
I don't know who he's selling those to. Drum
set up above on the other angle. Just touching
random buttons here. Probably not the smartest
thing to do. No, not at all. It's interesting,
too. It's got guitars up there above, and then
there's like a frickin' baritone or tuba case
next to them. It's like the most disorganized
store. You got drumsticks just in a frickin',
whatchamacallit, that is a drum that the drumsticks
are in. It's ridiculous. How much of this stuff,
what would any of this stuff be worth? If you
still had it today, some of it would be worth
some, some of it probably would be. And then
some of it would be just complete trash. Yup.
I was trying to see what the sale was, the sale
price on that guitar was in the background, but
I couldn't quite read it. No, I can't read it
either. There's only one that has like a first
sale ticket, but something's 59 98 and over his
shoulder. I couldn't see what it was. So obviously
they are learning about the break -in and the
arson and et cetera, et cetera, at the high school
that his girlfriend was at. What is Courtney
Cox? Julie. Julie is the character's name. Julie
is the character's name, yeah. So Julie and Kevin
is what we get from them. Who's Charlie? I don't
know. That was the name in the store there. Oh,
that's the music guy? I don't know if it's his
name, but there was a name, Charlie. On the counter,
just to the left of it, there's Charlie in all
pink neon. Yeah, because there's someone in the
cast list that's listed as Charlie. So that's
why I was checking that out. Welcome, seniors,
to your doom. High school really is the end of
your life, basically. Dolph Lundgren would be
63 this year. 64 is what he's going to turn this
year, actually. He is 63 currently. So he was
54 when he made The Expendables. Franklin Jella
just January 1st just turned 83. Yep. It's funny.
When The Americans was still on FX before it
ended its run, this is a spy thriller show on
FX networks. He actually has a role on there,
and I'm like, it's so weird seeing Frank Langella
without his Skeletor mask on. James Tolkien,
Detective Lubick, that we see right here, he
actually will turn 90 this year. 90. And he looks
the same now as he did three years ago. Billy
Barty is no longer with us. He died in the year
2000. I think almost everybody else, I'm just
kind of going through, I think everybody else
is still alive of the main cast, which is interesting.
A lot of times when we review stuff like this,
a lot of people are no longer with us. We do
have a lot of people that are 70 or 80 or 90,
but I'm not finding anybody besides Billy Barty
that's passed on. And it's funny because Lubick
had a... good three year run of films in the
eighties. I don't know what he had. I don't know
what he had in 84 or earlier, but from 85 to
87, back to the future, uh, uh, 86, he had top
gun, really Maverick top gun, you know, and then
he's got this and then he shows up obviously
later in back to the future, two and three. Right.
He was in one scene. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. He
actually played Numbers in Dick Tracy. That's
right. He had an appearance in Dick Tracy as
well. After that, I think it was mostly TV. He
did appear a couple years back in a movie called
Bone Tomahawk in 2015, which I saw. I'm going
to have to look back to see who he played in
that. He's been around for a while. He was in
Serpico in 1973. I haven't seen it, but I've
heard a lot of things about that movie. The Amityville
Horror. Another one that I have not seen. Been
around for a while. His first movie was 1960.
Yep. His first TV appearance, excuse me, 1960.
Naked City, yep. He has not appeared in anything
since 2015. I'm assuming that's because he's
retired since he's 90 years old. Probably. Skeletor
and Evil Lynn having a moment. Of course. They
almost played it up like more like a romantic
angle in this movie than we ever saw anywhere
else. Yeah. Where like, she's almost infatuated
with him in some way. Like she still has the
smart, like I'll do, I'll look out for number
one first type thing, but, but it's more of a,
it almost seems like a more of an attractiveness
towards to, you know, towards Skeletor, which
is kind of weird. The red lipstick really pops
on her with how white every, you know, her eyes
being so pale, which you could really see in
that last picture. And then the skin makeup that's
making her so pale, as well as her outfit, which
is also light colors. I don't hate her outfit.
It's a little different, but I don't hate it.
This is interesting here. We do talk about how
He -Man wasn't allowed to kill anybody. Not so
much, I guess, for Skeletor. He is going to kill
one of these guys real quick. Well, he is the
villain, you know. It was surprising. I remember
being surprised the first time I saw this, whether
it was in the theater or not, that it seems like
it was somewhat early in the movie where Skeletor
just takes somebody out, but it's a good way
of really showing his strength and his evilness
right off the bat. Absolutely, yeah. Beastman
looks like he had a better day. Mm -hmm. Oh,
oh, here we go. Yep. Skeletor looking like he's
not happy with things. His nose is so creepy.
Yeah, it is. Because again, it's a mask over
here. I am not in the giving pain this day. That's
a great line from Skeletor. Yeah, it is. That
is actually straight out of Shakespeare. It's
a copy from a line from one of Shakespeare's
plays. I'm not in the giving mood this day. It's
kind of an interesting ode to Shakespeare, I
guess. But so much for Sarad. Yep. He was useless
anyway. I guess Sarad really enjoyed working
with Franklin Jelly, even though he kills him
in this scene. Because I guess when in costume,
like we talked about with Evil Lynn, he can't
sit anywhere. So he had a special board that
he could lean against that had a hole cut out
for his tail to go through. So that he could
be like... resting in some ways. And I guess
Franklin Della would always stop by and talk
to him or bring him stuff to read or, you know,
I don't know if he brought him food or drink,
but it just would like go out of his way to make
sure he was comfortable, which was kind of nice.
Yeah. That's awesome. Franklin Della just comes
across as a, as a cool dude. Yeah, he does. Obviously
I've never met the guy. I can't speak for him,
but he just comes across as someone that seems
like he's down to earth. Didn't let fame get
to him. And yeah, he's a, he's an actor's actor.
Right. Class act. Getting back to Lubbock here,
he was in one episode, I think, of your favorite
show, one of my least favorite shows. He was
on The Wonder Years as Coach Silva. When was
that one of your least favorite shows? I just
don't like that show. When have you watched it
last? Whenever it hit whatever streaming service
it was a couple of years ago. I just feel like
watching it now and kind of just reminiscing
back to childhood and things like that, it just
gets you in the feels. I'd love The Wonder Years.
I haven't watched it from beginning to end, but
I want to at some point. I think one of them
was in MacGyver. I can't remember if it was Anthony
DeLongis or somebody else. Somebody was in an
episode of MacGyver. You'd think I'd know, but...
Yeah, you'd think you would know since you're
a MacGyver nut. Shut up. It wasn't either one
of those two. I don't know who I saw in this
film that was in one of the MacGyvers. Click
around a little bit and apologize for the sounds.
Well, Kevin in this movie did a lot of guest
spots on TV shows. Good Lord. Yeah, he did. He
was in The Twilight Zone. He was in All My Children,
Quantum Leap, L .A. Law, Star Trek The Next Generation,
Murder, She Wrote, Star Trek Voyager, Dawson's
Creek, Star Trek Enterprise, One Tree Hill, The
Outer Limits, The O .C., Supernatural. He's been
around for a while. Yes, he has. Blue Bloods,
White Collar. So you've probably seen him pop
up in many different things. Yep. he's one of
those guys. Hey, it's that guy. Where do I remember
you? Like you really have only ever seen him
once in this movie. Really? I mean, you know,
I'm sure. But for me, if I had seen him anywhere
else, I'd be like, wait a minute. Is that, and
I have no idea what he looks like since this
film. I only know what he looks like in this
movie. So I probably wouldn't recognize him either.
Right. I love those effects. Those effects are
really good on the scanner there for the time.
That was really cool. I agree. John Cypher also
was in a shit ton of things. Robert Towers was
in nothing. This is the guy that plays Karg.
He had four film roles. One of them was just
additional voices on Rockin' with Judy Jetson.
He's been in two video games and he was four
different animated roles and six television roles.
Wow. So Lubbock is going crazy over here because
he's like, Oh, this is nuts. I'm going to pull
a Kevin McAllister before Kevin McAllister did
it. Basically. Oh, this is interesting. Ponds
Mar, the guy who plays Sarad, he is an American
actor, puppeteer, artist, and filmmaker. He,
was the voice for Noid in the Domino's pizza
commercials. Oh, yeah. Love the Noid. At least
at one point. I don't know how long he did that,
but it's listed on his page. So that's an interesting
one. And her scanner is going to pick up the
microwave waves and destroy the microwave. No
more hot chicken for you guys. Good Lord. Tony
Carroll played Beastman. He did almost nothing
else. You know, it's funny. You get some of these
movies that want to cast unknowns or whatever,
and sometimes the unknown, like Christopher Reeve.
He was virtually unknown at the time. Obviously
graduated from Juilliard and everything else,
roomed with Robin Williams. And now, you know,
he's known to the rest of the world as Superman
for the rest of his life and afterlife now that
he's no longer been with us. But sometimes when
you're casting unknowns, you get people like
the person that played, you know, Karg or whatever
that didn't go on to do anything else. It's kind
of sad. Yeah, absolutely. Lubbock confiscates
the key, which is just going to bring him more
trouble. Yeah. Oh, Kevin. Why do you have to
be so stupid, Kevin? I mean... And that pink
car, come on. Jesus. That's when you know you're
confident in your manhood. Mm -hmm. Ah! Blow
the door off it. Get out of here! Jeez. Oh, Lord.
Yeah, we got another showdown here with the evil
warriors. And Beastman, yep. Going against Kevin.
He should just be dead at this point, really.
I mean, going up against a monster like that?
Yeah, he should just be dead. Yeah, we shouldn't
have seen him again. Yeah, that codpiece she's
wearing, she should not be wearing. I definitely
wanted to accentuate her chest. Oh, no, I'm not
talking about the upper. I noticed the lower
part more than I noticed the... I'm like, that
doesn't look right at all. Man, you just got
turned into a dog. The interrogation device here.
Put the color of truth around him. At least in
the 70s when Linda Carter did it, it was a lasso
and it looked better. Yeah. Tearing up the place,
looking for the key. Local couple dying, plane
crash, yep. Find the girl. So this is what's
going to give him the idea to do what they do
here in a little while. Mm -hmm. I do like Blade's
design. I like his eye thing. I like his whole
chin thing, whatever. Right. Some critical responses.
The Rotten Tomatoes consensus reads, Masters
of the Universe is a slapdash adaptation of the
He -Man mythos that can't overcome its cynical
lack of raison d 'etre. I don't know what that
means. No matter how admirably Franklin Jelliff
throws himself into the role of Skeletor. Variety
said it's a Conan Star Wars hybrid ripoff. That
is a colossal boar. Guy from the New York Times
said if you like the toy, you'll love the movie.
Okay, so it's funny you mentioned that. And they're
going off to find them. And since you brought
up the toys, actually in, was it, when was this?
That's the pre -order which sold out. In 2011?
Where was this article written? I can't even
tell. Basically, Masters of the Universe Classics,
they did the William Stout collection. I've got
a link here from Toy Arc that I'll put in the
post of this episode for the podcast. But they
show off images of the action figures from Masters
of the Universe Classics. They have He -Man,
Regular Skeletor, Karg, and God Skeletor. And
I'll probably even, I'll send you off air, uh,
pixel dance video with these and the action figures
look a hell of a lot better than what the, what
the, what the film does. The, um, the God Skeletor
figure, it's pretty much ripped right off the
screen. They all are, but it just looks so much
cooler. I remember wanting some of the, I wanted
the blade figure and a couple other figures,
but I never got my hands on them. Yeah, those
were from the original film. These are four figures
that were done in Masters Universe Classics somewhere
in the last five, six, seven years. I forget
when. And they're basically today's standard
of action figure, and it's just four of them.
Two Skeletors, a Karg, and a He -Man. One Skeletor
is regular Skeletor. One Skeletor is God Skeletor.
The other film that they had put out, I just
remembered it, the other film that this company
was putting out at the same time in Masters of
the Universe that they were hoping that would
be a success that was not was Superman The Quest
for Peace. I like that movie, actually. These
two contributed to the closure of Canon Films.
The sequel is going to be called Masters of the
Universe 2 Cyborg. Like I said, the script followed
He -Man, who returned to Earth to battle Skeletor,
who had left Earth as a post -apocalyptic wasteland.
The film was to feature Trapjaw and She -Ra,
but they had to recast somebody as He -Man, and
that was going to be Laird Hamilton. Oh, interesting.
So he was going to be playing He -Man in the
sequel. Look at Gwildor. Gwildor's an idiot.
Speaking of which, Billy Barty received a Golden
Raspberry Award nomination for worst supporting
actor for this film. He didn't win it. He's not
the worst out of this movie though. Another thing
that canon basically since they were going out
of business they couldn't pay Mattel's fees to
pull off the sequel. And yeah it says the only
aspect known about the sequel's screenplay was
that He -Man would have returned to Earth disguised
as a professional quarterback. That's just rings
of awfulness. I do like the idea that the Skeletor
created a wasteland or a post -apocalyptic area
out of Earth, kind of like he did with Eternia
at the beginning of this film. They don't do
too bad with the flying thing there, going through
the sky was not too bad of an effect. I like
that they blame the Russians on this. That is
such a strickland thing to do. And it's such
an 80s thing to do, too. Right, right. We have...
He -Man's showing up in the pink car, driving
it, apparently. He's learned how to drive in
the course of the movie. He's coming into Charlie's
store to get this cosmic key, but not before
Detective Lubbock has a word with him. Yeah,
I could not see Laird Hamilton as He -Man. The
only person I can see as He -Man, I'll stick
to it until my dying days, is Chris Hemsworth.
No! Perfect body for it. Maybe, but he's a horrible
actor for it. Oh, he's a good actor. No, Thor
is He -Man. No. Yeah, the only... Oh, and that
isn't even... Wow. And they've locked in on the
key. Yes, they've locked in on the key. Yay!
Gwildor is one of the golden girls here. Gwildor
and Drag. He's Blanche. He's Blanche. If I turn,
they keep throwing off. Because I have the subtitles
on. Chromons and things like that. What is that?
They got a tank just sitting out on the street.
This is awesome. Evil Lynn has accompanied them
this time. That's because hopefully she won't
fail. But she does. She just walks around very
regal. Yeah. Like she rules everything with Skeletor.
She looks like she could have played the White
Witch in the Chronicles of Narnia in that costume.
Hmm. Oh, Man -at -Arms has his visor down. Yep.
He -Man sporting a gun again. Yep. It's always
kind of jarring. Yeah, it is. It's like MacGyver
carrying a gun. It just doesn't happen. I mean,
if he made it out of toothpicks, it could happen.
He didn't believe in guns. He would throw one
in the garbage and have to make a device out
of a pen or something first. 20 Metrons. So we
got Metrons and Chromons. They're trying to find
a way to get through the sorceress's force field
when they do get back there. Yep. So now Gwildor
and Kevin are going to be talking about the universal
language of music. Mm -hmm. It's a little bit
weird. Lubbock's like, what the fuck are you
guys talking about? Yeah. This is a weird part
of the movie, honestly. Yeah, very. There's that
tuba in the background. Mm -hmm. Case was in
the other part of the store. So many drums. So
many drums. Mm -hmm. So many speakers, keyboards.
Like, what is going on? Right through the windows.
Mm. There he goes, shooting people again. That
doesn't matter. They're robots. You can kill
robots and nobody cares. Okay. Robots. Fine.
This is a, this is a, you know, what's the word?
There's gotta be a word like sexist. That's like
against robots. Like this is a robotism. Yeah.
This movie doesn't care about the feelings of
the robots. You can kill them left and right.
Basically what it sounded like. I thought I was
listening to the movie. Thought the volume would
come back on. I mean, overall, you really got
to take this movie for what it is. Oh, absolutely.
Champy. It's cheesy. You know, the effects are
of its time, although a few of the effects are
better than the time, but a lot of them are somewhat
dated by now, obviously. But I don't know. There's
something that's just fun about it. If you're
willing to suspend your disbelief on stuff. It's
just jarring, though, as a He -Man movie because
of all of the non -He -Man aspects. Exactly.
That's the thing. It's supposed to be a He -Man
movie that isn't a He -Man movie. That's the
biggest problem with it. And the funny thing
is, I don't mind Gwildor. I like Gwildor as a
character, as an orco replacement. I like He
-Man for what he is. I like Man -at -Arms. I'm
still not a fan of Teela in this, but... My favorite
things out of this are Skeletor, the Cosmic Key,
and Lubbock, honestly. Those are my top three
things from this movie. I think you can get away
with Gwildor. It's when you have Gwildor and
Blade and Karg and Sauron or whatever his name
is. Not Sauron, but Sauron and all these different
things. Then you have some of the characters
not looking alike. And then you have most of
it taking place on Earth. And then you have robot
armies. And then you have He -Man shooting people.
There's so many things that are disconnected
from the universe that we have learned about
in the previous X number of years that it was
just jarring to watch. I don't know. That would
be like a Transformers movie. And it had Optimus
Prime and Megatron. And then all the other characters
were new to that movie. He'd be like... And they
weren't even the same... I don't know. Maybe
Transformers isn't a good example, but... That's
one thing Michael Bay did get right, is he let
them do the character names and the bumblebees
and this and that. Haswell probably told him
that. And again, who knows what was told to these
filmmakers from Mattel at the time, other than
the fact that He -Man doesn't kill people or
whatever kind of thing, yet here he is with a
gun shooting at robots. Very true. If you're
going to do the whole Batman rule of this character
doesn't kill, you should not be giving him a
laser pistol. Sword fight, fine, whatever. He's
not going to kill a character with a sword. Basically,
in the cartoon, the way they do it is he throws
people or he punches somebody or something like
that. He knocks them out. It's funny because
they had this whole movie where they're like,
don't kill anybody. The cartoon did a better
job of showing that because he never had a gun.
He didn't even come close to doing something
like that. This is an interesting part that we're
kind of skipping past here, but Courtney Cox
sees a vision of her mom out there and for some
reason believes that that is possible. While
Lubbock and you fight over a gun. This is just
a bad... I understand that you have a loss. When
you lose a parent, I've been there. and like
yeah when i was 10 did i like picture like oh
you know he's you know my dad's just gonna be
back one day and it's gonna be like a dream or
something or whatever like you go through that
type of thing but she is a grown -ass adult at
this point or at least a high schooler like you
can't imagine that this is really your mom at
this point yeah like you know that she's dead
and this is a creepy point in the movie too like
oh this this gives me the chills this was some
awesome special effects though It gave me the
chills just now, just even seeing it again, even
though I already knew what was coming. She's
her mom now, but as we know, she's actually Eva
Lynn, which is one of the best things they did
in the movie as far as recapturing something
that would have happened in the cartoon. Because
that's something that we would have seen multiple
times in the cartoon where somebody posed as
somebody else, whether it was Skeletor, Eva Lynn,
or whoever. And as Lubbock and the two kids are
fighting here, I almost forgot Lubbock was a
cop in this. This music story got a lot of play.
Now Gwildor's got a gun. Gwildor has the gun
that was on the floor. He says they're acting
like twerkdoms. I don't know what that is. Julie's
coming back. My mom's here. She wants the thing
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and she runs
out and gives it to the bad guy. Number one,
why would your mom be alive? Number two, why
would your mom want this thing? Yep. Like, it's
so bad. Dun, dun, dun. Like, this is hot rod
bad right here. I'm just kidding. Evil Lynn scares
the crap out of me. That was Courtney Cox's best
acting moment, I think. Yep. initial reaction
where she's just screaming. And Evelyn pulls
off without ever having to lift a finger, pulls
off the feet that they were trying to do. So
she comes across as a pretty competent bad guy.
Absolutely. Records 99 cents. You can get those
records for 99 cents. Seems expensive for 1987.
One of the price tags was $4 .99 and the rest
said 99 cents. Yeah. Here's more red laser, blue
laser. I think there was a green one in there
too. Yeah, there was earlier. Oh, red and green
laser. Great. Something was off in the coloring.
So much fire. Fire everywhere. It's laying waste.
It's a teenage wasteland. Oh, we're looking for
more guns. More guns. This movie had more guns
and the entirety than the whole series did in
130 episodes. Pretty much. Yeah. Cause I don't
even know if the series ever had a gun, did it?
I mean, man in arms had blasters and things and,
and, and, and some of the vehicles had guns on
them, but actual like revolvers and shotguns
and things like that. No. I mean, I guess it's
set in Earth, so what kind of weapons are going
to be in existence in Earth? Exactly, yeah. It's
just weird that so many characters are brandishing
them. I'm surprised he's still alive. That's
pure Strickland right there. Mm -hmm. Yep. Get
off my lawn. That's literally what I... Every
time somebody uses that phrase, like an old person
saying, get off my lawn, I think of his character.
And back to the future. Yep. You slackers! It's
an interesting version of a sky sled. Yeah. A
much bigger vehicle that we're using. Evelyn's
caressing the cosmic key, obviously having thoughts
of what she can do with its power, maybe. Mm
-hmm. He -Man's going out in the streets. Oop.
Someone's opening a door. Mm -hmm. Here comes
Skeletor. Dun, dun, dun. By the sorceress. That's
a phrase. And here comes the Skeletor on Earth.
Hell on Earth. I do like the army shot, though.
It makes it look okay. The fact that they've
been using almost every scene, though, is a little
bit off -putting. Well, true, but I mean... If
they would have waited until this scene and had
them all march in with Skeletor, that would have
been a lot better. And they got the hoverboards.
Yep. Maybe not the greatest effects, but it's
okay. At least it ain't pink. Skeletor looks
badass when he comes in here, though. He does.
So great. I like the things that they did at
the end of his gloves, like the fingertips. Yeah,
that is so cool. I made him look badass. This
vehicle looks somewhat badass. It's almost Darth
Vader -esque. Oh, yeah. What's all this? It looks
like Darth Vader's bathroom. I like the fact
that he's so elevated, like he's so high off
the ground. Oh, yeah. Makes it look cool. And
then he's got like gunners to the sides of him.
Offset. Everything to do with Skeletor in this
film is amazing. Evil in. Mm hmm. She's telling
her evilness. Yep. I have the key, my lord. He
wants to know about He -Man. He -Man says that
he eluded them. That obviously does not make
Skeletor happy. Air Centurions, find him. A year
later, there would be a cartoon called Centurions.
Or later that year, maybe even. I don't remember
if they started in 87 or not. Air Centurions.
This is a weird aspect visually though. Some
of this I remember looking a little cheesy even
back then. Oh yeah. It's all very cheesy. So
he shot that person. Was the Air Centurion a
robot too? Probably. I would hope so considering
He -Man's not supposed to kill anybody. Right?
This is like one of our climactic showdowns on
Earth here. Yes, yes it is. Centurion's cartoon
debuted in... Oh, I guess it was in 1986, so
it came beforehand. Came beforehand, yeah, so
this is a reference to it. That's what I figured.
I remember Centurion was... Centurion's was before
this. Now He -Man's gonna ride his own hoverboard.
There he goes. Jeez. So he's got the hoverboard,
he's got his gun, his sword's holstered. Mm -hmm.
Graphics aren't terrible right there. Nope. I
mean, for the time that this movie was made,
the graphics on it are really, really good, depending
on which scene you're in. I mean, there's good
moments, but I mean, there's some, it's like
a 50 -50. Like, some of them are some real good
moments that you're like, oh, this is beyond
its time. And then some of them are like, oof,
this looks like a weird computer animated video
game. Yep. Like, when they're at a distance on
those hoverboards, it looks really bad. When
they're close up, not as bad. Skeletor just slowly
making down Washington Avenue here. Whatever
street this is. He's trying to find somewhere
to stick his grapple. That's the wrong place.
His shoulder got shot off. There you go. Red
laser actually hit somebody. Wow. That must be
a first. Yeah, I know. You could probably record
that down in history, how many times that's been
successful. Mm -hmm. He -Man doing a loop -de
-loop. This is like the scene in Star Wars and
the Force of Endor. Mm -hmm. When they're trying
to... Yeah, there's a lot of copying from other...
A lot of homaging, copying, whatever you want
to call it, from other things. Yeah, this is
very Moons of Endor type scene here. First, I
didn't think that guy realized he was right behind
him. It's also funny because we have Gwildor
that's doing most of the work with the cosmic
key and the different devices where normally
Man -at -Arms would be that person. So it's kind
of interesting in that respect. Well, you got
to give a bearded orco something to do in this
movie besides eat chicken dressed in drag. Oh,
Skeletor just coming up like a creep right here.
That's such a good scene. Yeah, it is. Bye -bye.
That's like, so Emperor Palpatine. Oh yeah, very
much so. I know I'm making a lot of Star Wars
references, but that's what I'm thinking of as
I'm watching this now. Absolutely. Because that's
all you can think about. Like you think you have
them and he just can be like, Nope, I got a force
field bitches. Throw down your weapons. And your
other weapon. And your other weapon. Could have
been a comedy sketch right there. You minute
minion. That's what Skeletor called Gwildor.
That's great. I would never knowingly serve the
lord of Snake Mountain. They originally wanted
Snake Mountain in this, and they had the drawings
of it and everything and all the concept art
and the design, but then they weren't able to
do it for budgetary reasons. Unfortunately. Because
that would have been cool to see. I guess they
even had designs for Shira for the sequel and
different things like that. She would have been
in a little bit of a different getup, so I don't
know if I would have been for that. Like just
the way that he's able to emote without saying
anything and that much makeup and mask and things
like that. Oh yeah, absolutely. Emotions and
say so much without saying anything. It's really
good. He's clearly probably the best actor in
this film. Oh, easily. I mean, there was a few
others that did a lot of acting, but like, I
feel like he's, he's the star. Yeah. I mean,
he even takes it over. Lundgren. Especially at
the time, too. He was probably the biggest name
that was involved. Yep. Because Dolph Lundgren
hadn't done much at this point. I think Rocky
was about it. Yeah, Rocky IV, V, or whatever
Rocky he's in. So we have just about everybody
together now. Just about, yeah. Pretty much.
Except for, obviously, the sorceress who's back
being captured on Eternia. Yep. Skeletor laughing.
Mm -hmm. Oh, He -Man and Skeletor, one -on -one.
He wants He -Man to return to Eternia with him
as his slave. Mm -hmm. To save his friends, or
to perish with them on this stupid planet. Ultimatums.
Such a villain thing to do. Yep. Return to Eternia.
Be my slave. You'll sign a million autographs
every day until you die. All I can think of is
what Swackhammer wanted to do with Michael Jordan
in Space Jam. So He -Man throws his sword down,
gets put into shackles. Yep. Because let's face
it, that sword ain't no power sword. Frank Langella
just literally motions him off with a flick of
his hand. Yep. Away you fly, away shoe. Good
stuff. So that is our resolution, basically,
of what's happening here on Earth. Yeah, pretty
much on Earth. They then go back to Eternia here
in a few minutes. He -Man is my slave. Let them
rot. That's what he's saying about all the other
people. Then he slowly descends. Jesus. I'm going
to put my medical chair down now, thank you.
It was going that fast. It's like when you're
waiting for somebody's chair to go up an elevator
on one of those lifts. It's like the old lady
chair in Gremlins. Yeah, basically. Except it
never goes fast. Shoot her out the window or
whatever it does. Mm -hmm. So now they think
they're stuck and there's no way for them to
get back to Eternia because Skeletor and all
these people are going through that gate. Mm
-hmm. They're going to close it. They have the
Cosmic Key. So everybody else is going to be
stuck. So we're just watching them go through
that gate, disappear. Mm -hmm. And now we have
ourselves a little conundrum. Yep. Gwildor and
the humans. Quildor and the Humans. That sounds
like a TV spinoff. Could be. Like Mark and Mindy,
Quildor and the Humans. Yep. I know that probably
is a real shotgun, but the shotgun on Lovick's
arm there does not look... When he had it up
against his shoulder, it just looked like a completely
fake gun. Here, let me put that in some water.
Oh, that's some of the best makeup in the entire
movie besides Frank Langella. That makes you
hungry, doesn't it? No, it does not at all. Put
this wet towel over it. That way we soaked in
some dirty pool water. Exactly. Good thing I
ate dinner way before we recorded this commentary.
In her blood, only our sorceress can heal her
now. So now we have another. element that we
have to work around here. Mm -hmm. You just don't
get it. Yep. You should just date Teela instead.
I don't know about that, but okay. Or Gwildor
in drag. Yeah. The way Gwildor's cheeks hang
down over his beard always got me. I wonder if
that outfit still exists somewhere, like if it's
on display somewhere. Or if it was too much connected
to his face that they had to peel it off or something.
Hmm, not sure. Oh, they just need to play the
melody that the key played. They don't need the
cosmic key, they just need the music. Luckily,
Kevin's a music guy. Yeah, luckily. That was
great. That effect was terrible though. Yeah.
Or whatever. She shoots it and then it cuts to
a scene that doesn't have it in it anymore. Like
a blip. Like we didn't see that edit. This part
has been edited. Ha ha ha. You'll never know
what was actually here. How did you do that?
How do you do music from memory? You learn. It's
called memorization. This part is so cheesy.
It's supposed to be this epic device that exists
in... Oh, he's got to do something. Metron's
pole word. I don't know what that means. You
know, Eternia, you have these devices that are
magical and stuff like that. You're on Earth
and we just have to redo a tune and it does the
same thing. Kind of takes away some of the magic
and mystique behind it. Well, it had to be simplified
for the humans because they don't have the other
device. At this point, you can't hear it, obviously,
but this is when Kevin tries to play it that
he's not good enough to remember it 100 % right.
He's just a stupid keyboard person. There's a
million people like me out in the world. I'm
a nobody. Blah, blah, blah. So now they have
to pump up his self -esteem and confidence back
up. Yeah. Good lord. This is like the PSA in
the movie. Mm -hmm. Pretty much, yeah. Gwildar.
It's like a cross between Hobbit and Yoda and
the dude from Spaceballs and Orko. They just
said something about Tesseract. I don't even
see Orko in here. They had a Tesseract in here
before it was known. They had an Octodirectifier.
They got Chromoids. They got Metrons. Somebody's
just having fun making up words. You can see
down below where they have the skulls and the
different stuff compared to up here where they
have... if you see off to the side, you can't
see it in that scene, but they'll, they'll have
more of like, just like natural statues, like
that look like nice, but everything down below
is like skulls. Like right here, you can see
people like statues of people on the upper part,
which is the good power. And then down below
you can see all kinds of different skulls and
like more demonic type creations. Cause up top
is heaven down below is held. It's a very, it's
a very similar, uh, yeah. Aesthetic. The powers
of the universe will be vested in me and I make
you man and wife. No, I'm just kidding. He did
say the powers vested in me, though. Look at
Sorceress. Not looking good. No, she's almost
dead. She's looking like Skeletor a little bit.
It's my destiny. It is my right. This is one
of the better parts for Frank Langella when he
has some of these almost like monologues. not
quite because there's some other people that
interject lines here and there, but good stuff.
He writes one of the, one of these lines he came
up with on his own. It's not in the script. I
don't think he said it yet, but it'll come up
here. I think in a little bit. Oh, look, the
sword with no power. Yes. Sorceress, the sword
of gray skull. He held it up like it weighed
nothing. Because it probably does weigh nothing.
I don't know. Everything else weighs like 50
pounds as far as costumes go. So he puts the
sword in that holder next to his throne. That's
doing something, apparently. He was carrying
around kind of like a Havoc staff. Yeah, it is
kind of a Havoc staff. Pretty close. Close enough,
yeah. He's got a human shackled. Go ahead. I
was trying to look and see if it really did look
similar to what the actual Havoc staff looks
like. And it does a little bit, but not much.
He says a line there that when the powers of
Grayskull will become mine. When the great eye
opens, people of eternity shall see you kneeling
to me. Just before you die. Such a good standoff
between Skeletor and He -Man here. Mm -hmm. And
what can he do? This is like the part when you're
watching his movie where you're like, how does
he... This is the red laser whip. Mm -hmm. You're
like, how does he get out of this? He's shackled.
Sorcerers can't help. He's got Skeletor, Evelyn,
all the bad people. His friends are on Earth.
Only person that can save him is Lubbock. Lord
have mercy. Yeah, when President, or not President,
wow, when Principal Strickland is the only person
that can save you, you're in trouble. I'm sure
he was President Strickland in one timeline,
at least. All right. I thought they destroyed
that pink car. Apparently not. Kevin's back to
save the day. Remember that, folks. Mm -hmm.
Thank God you weren't him, because... That's
too cool to be him. All right. We got a keyboard,
which is basically a cosmic key. Pretty much,
yeah. Axel's over there crying and... Crying
and dying and... All from a leg burn. From a
venomous leg burn. That'll do it to you, man.
I'll have this ready in a pre -ton. Everything's
got to be a ton or a mon or cron. Chromon, pre
-ton. Young love. This thing probably was broken
in real life. This is probably why they were
saying that they were so hard to keep together.
Yeah, mostly. One of the broken ones. Yep. Oh,
that does look like it hurts. Yeah, it's bleeding
a little bit. Even Skeletor's flinching a little
bit. Mm -hmm. Enough. Where is your strength?
It's in the sword. The fake one. It's rubbing
it in that the sorceress is dying, I mean. Yep.
So much acting with his eyes. There's so much
acting with his eyes, but the lights and the
shadows in this scene on his face. Oh, so good.
Alpha and the Omega. It's always a good phrase.
Oh, I forgot we get super Skeletor eventually.
Yeah, God Skeletor, yep. I didn't like that.
I actually did. I thought it was cool. I just
thought he looked too gold. When that happens.
True. I'll see what I think about it this time
when I see it. At least Super Skeletor is...
Or God Skeletor is more Langella than Super Shredder
was just plain old Kevin Nash. Right. That's
a cool hologram that's projecting to all of Eternia,
apparently, or at least these six people. Yep.
I do like the hologram projections were supposedly
planet wide or whatever. Right. It's one way
to have a PA system. Now I, Skeletor, am master
of the universe. The wall behind him is opening.
Sorceress looking real bad. Beastman still looking
bad from like 300 scenes ago. Nobody has fixed
it. Yeah, Beastman looks bad, and then Card just
looks confused. Now these gold fairies are running
around. They enter Skeletor's head, and he's
glowing. The power fills me. He's on fire. Orange
lightning. We had red lightning earlier. Very
Emperor Palpatine -like now. We even got the
lightning bolt. Oh, yeah. Very much so, yeah.
Blue. They're orange instead. Mm -hmm. Unstoppable
power. My friend's like, uh... I gotta say, the
effects on him here are amazing. Yeah. I am more
than man. Especially He -Man. God. I am God.
Very bright. Yeah, he should have been called
Hook, not Karg. He's got a hook for a hand. Evelyn's
like the only one not flinching here. Yeah, because
she knows what's coming. There's actually some
moves that they end up not being able to do in
this fight scene because of how tall his helmet
is. Now he looks like a fucking Power Ranger.
He doesn't look that bad. I'm glad you at least
said that that would be bad. That was like some
type of getup that you would see somebody on
a Power Rangers TV show have. Well, some of those
suits are really cool. Some of them are very
bad. This one, I don't see it as bad. And again,
once I show you the toy version of God Skeletor,
I think you're going to come around to it. I
just thought he looked so epic as he was that
this made him look less epic to me. Absolutely.
I generally agree. I don't know, man. It just
looks... A little bit going to Eternia. Yep.
Got it in the picture. It looks like a... What
is that helmet? That helmet is bizarre. Who made
that? Who designed that? It's crazy. The Havoc
Staff is basically still the same, but he's got
antler horns, and then he's got something else
coming off the back. He's got a gem on the top.
He's got snakes going around it or something.
Well, it's to show that he's got... This all
this new power and they have to do something.
And again, this is 80 1987. Oh, hey, look, half
a pink Cadillac and half a wall. Yeah. Stuff
like that happens. You always wonder, like, why
is it only the people that get transported? Yeah.
It was like, well, we're going to transport everything.
Except the other half of the car. It wasn't within
the realm of the notes. And they needed something
to be able to hide behind to shoot. True. Oh,
He -Man's free, or at least part of him is. That
was dumb. Yep. Skeletor's freaking out. I have
to say, just a second ago, when He -Man did that
back kick... That kind of looked like a Filmation
move that Filmation He -Man would do. That was
the one time I really felt that Dolph looked
like... I feel like that laser went right through
Lubbock. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All of the lasers should
have hit Lubbock. Not that I want them to, but
the way they're firing, they all should hit him.
It looked like they edited it wrong, and it looked
like it actually did hit him and had no effect.
Nothing shot that guy. He just flew backwards.
Mm -hmm. He -Man's just throwing people left
and right. This is more like the type of fighting
He -Man should be doing versus shooting people.
Beastman's evil inner just dipping out. Oh, that
didn't feel good. We still have most of what
Skeletor is doing is doing from afar. Yeah, there's
no close -up. We do get a fight scene between
them coming up, though. Yep, we do. Kind of a
long, drawn -out final action sequence is what
we got here. Yeah, but I mean, I think it works.
There's a little too much action, but for what
it is... There you go. Yep. You said something
believable. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to lift the
whole thing with his bare hands. He meant doing
a Tarzan impersonation. Oh, here we go. Just
so we're aware. So everybody's straight on this.
When we have the actual battle sequence between
He -Man and Skeletor here, it is not going to
be Frank Langella. It is going to be Blade in
that costume. Hmm, interesting. Yeah, Frank Langella
did not do the action sequence, the one -on -one
fight. He did not do it. Yeah. So Blade, being
the fight choreographer and the stuntman and
everything, has a second fight with He -Man,
just in a different costume this time. That's
kind of cool, though. I think that's interesting.
Yeah. I've never watched it with that knowledge.
So I'm sure they make sure that every face shot
is Langella still, but right. Yeah. If you're
like that, probably was Langella. That was a
slow swing, but probably here, here it's here.
It's blade here. It's blade. Yeah. Most definitely.
Yeah. Cause you can't even see his face. No,
I just now noticed the mask is down. The whole,
the whole face is darkened. Everything. They
changed the lighting. So you can't tell. Yep.
But that's not Langella. I think that's cool,
though. I think that's interesting. I think that's
the perfect way to do it for this film. I think
it's cool that they got somebody that was already
in the film to do it, like another character
instead of just a random stunt person. Right,
yeah. That makes it kind of cool. And it does.
If they hadn't done this, it would be a fight
scene like what we saw with Darth Vader in Star
Wars, where it's very clear that there's... A
very old person. Not very old, but like an older
person that's not swinging the swords very well.
Yeah. Lightsabers in that case, but... Right.
See, that would have been the... I don't know.
I feel like we missed out on the moment where
He -Man holds up the sword and becomes He -Man
after Adam, like in a moment like this. Well,
I mean, he already did. He did it when he pulled
it out of the thing. That was the moment for
this movie. Yeah. Almost loses the thought again.
That was funny because in one shot, Skeletor's
hood was down. The next one was up and then it
was down again. There was some bad editing there.
He falls into the abyss. He falls into Cloud
City. Basically. Apparently they had the whole
movie done except for parts of this sequence.
And the production got shut down because the
company said that they had to be done. And it
took them like, it basically took the Goddard,
like, I don't know, two or three weeks or something.
I want to say, I don't quote me on the timeframe
to convince them to let them like reassemble,
to shoot the last few shots of the movie or something
like that. There's something to do with stuff
they had to come back later and do because they
had to wait to get reinstated. Wow. King Lubbock.
Gets a woman out of it. Looks like a much younger
woman. Oh, yeah. Sorceress also looks much younger
than she did a few minutes ago. Yeah, she does.
She doesn't look young, but she looks younger.
Yeah, I didn't like the fact that they played
her so old in this. But I guess it somewhat makes
sense. When you wish upon a globe. Oh, I just
want one thing. I want my parents back. Yeah,
an Eternia. No, nobody said that. Man -at -arms
without the helmet. Looking like a typical guy
from the 80s. Oh, yeah. He may have got his armor
polished for this shot. Yeah. Very gold, very
shiny. Why does Goldor have gold bands tied in
his hair? Because everybody's got gold on now.
They all took all the gold from Skeletor's outfit
and melted it down and made new stuff into it.
Activate the doorway. I would actually be interested
to know if that really was Dolph Lundgren with
the laser whip. Like the marks on his body, if
they actually did make up for that. for that
scene earlier. I'm assuming they did, but I'm
assuming they did too, but you, you know, scenes
like that. Oh, we'll just, you just don't double.
But every time I saw him writhing in pain or
whatever, I always saw his giant blonde wig and
not wake, but you know what I mean? Like, and
I'm like, Oh, I wonder if that really is him
or if that's just some other actor that looks
like him or has his muscles or whatever. Kind
of, I don't think so, but you know, it's weird.
an Eternian gesture, like waving, but it's their
version of it. Good journey. Send me back before
my mom and dad crashed. Blah, blah, blah. Don't
get me wrong. I lost a parent. You lost a parent.
Don't get me wrong. It's horrible, but I really
do hate that that's part of this movie, that
she gets to go back before her parents crashed.
That's not something that can happen. Don't plant
that seed that that's a possibility. And why
is she wearing, like, a nightgown like you'd
wear on Little House on the Prairie? I think
my mom actually had that nightgown. I'm not kidding.
She's supposed to be wearing, what, like an 18
-year -old? Yeah. Like, no 18 -year -olds walking
around in that thing. Yeah, no. Especially not
in the 80s. No. Oh, Lord. Yeah, this is cringeworthy.
Yeah. Oh, lordy, lordy. Yeah. Not a fan of that
part. No. Hey, look, the microwave's fixed. Jeez.
Don't die over there. Yeah, I know, right? Well,
it's just... This is the worst scene of the entire
film. Yeah, it's up there, that's for sure. Take
all the effects, take all the timeline, take
all the whatever. Oh, no, you're not going on
your trip. I'm taking your tickets. Bye. And
I'm going to walk out of the house in my nightgown.
Oh, I forgot about this when it came up in the
actual movie. So I'll share it now. But Mattel,
the toy company, did hold a contest where the
winner would get a role in the new He -Man series
or the He -Man movie. They were under a great
deal of pressure to finish the time under budget.
So director Gary Goddard had to squeeze the contest
winner into the shoot. The winner, Richard Smonder,
is Pig Boy, who hands Skeletor his staff when
he returns from Earth. Oh, interesting. I guess
that guy complained, too, because he said the
makeup and everything after it came off, his
face was burning in agony for weeks. Because
of all the Pig Boy makeup that they had to take
off his face. I have the power! And it's over.
They don't do the... Oh, they have a post -credit
scene. No, they don't. Yes, they do. Shut up.
No, they don't. Yes, they do. It was one of the
first movies that had a post -credit scene. Really?
I'm pretty sure. We're just going through the
credits here. It's just listing everybody. Carl,
the janitor. There's Pig Boy. Richard Sponder.
That's the guy who won the contest. He got to
be in his one movie, I'm assuming. I'm assuming
he was never... Let me click on his name here
on IMDb and see if he... Yeah, that was it. Well,
I guess he played himself on some type of documentary
in 2017 about Masters of the Universe. But that
was his only appearance. I never knew that because
I never watched this movie past the credits.
I did not. I honestly did not know. It says here
in Wikipedia in a post -credits scene, Teletor's
head emerges from the water at the bottom of
the pit saying, I'll be back. I honestly never
knew that. cliffhanger that said that there was
going to be a sequel that they decided to keep
in there, I guess. I don't know if it's in my
version or not. We're going to see here in a
minute. The credits aren't too long, but yeah.
One of those things where it's like, there's
going to be more than there never is. It's like,
I hate stuff like that that exists where there
was never a conclusion. Yeah, exactly. I mean,
say what you will about Transformers, the movie,
but at least, you know, you know let the cybertronian
war be over till all are one at least we had
an ending and obviously right kind of stuck out
at the end there but i mean whatever at least
it wasn't ending it was not right post credits
whatever like i said there was an alternate uh
introduction scene that featured snake mountain
in that scene tila was held captive in the dungeons
of snake mountain she escapes and helps several
imprisoned resistance fighters outside Scene
ended up never being filmed, but it was used
in novelizations and was mentioned in the official
movie and poster magazine. So there was a shot
of Snake Mountain at some point. So the sequel
was going to take place 10 years after this in
storyline. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah. And this film
is said to take place in Earth in 1986 and 1987.
No wonder they had a cheap chicken place in the
movie. Go ahead. I bet this movie would have
made more bank if KFC was the chicken place.
Yeah, the film got a PG rating in America, England,
Australia, and New Zealand, mostly due to He
-Man smashing and fighting Skeletor's troops.
And probably all the guns and whatnot, I would
assume. Yeah. Yeah, I do not have a... Post -credits
scene? Oh, no, I do. I do. Yep. I see the water.
Ooh, I see it. Oh, that's the first time I've
seen that ever. Yours is ahead of mine, so I
haven't seen that part yet, so let me wait until
I can see it on mine, because I'm sure our credit
versions are different. No, they're not. I just
fast -forwarded mine. I'm sorry. I'm like, I
want to get to this already, damn it. Good lord.
We're in the credits, folks, so if you're listening
to this still, thank you. Second of all, the
movie's kind of over. Yeah. That's definitely
true. I mean, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed watching
it through again this time. I still probably
will never watch it again after now. And the
funny thing is, folks, we were supposed to do
this podcast episode something like two and a
half, three years ago. Because originally, Back
when we were supposed to do this, Karen and I
were living in Gurney, Illinois, which is about
three hours away from you. You were supposed
to come to the house and we were supposed to
do this live and in person and actually get to
meet each other, but oh no. It didn't happen.
I can see the red water now. I can see the red
water and then Skeletor's head, which is very
clean. He says, I'll be back. It's creepy. It's
great. I love how clean his head was because
it was in the water. So, yeah, that's Masters
of the Universe. It's not a great movie from
any type of film standard, but for... And I think
fans of the franchise are split, probably. There's
some people that probably like it, and some people
probably think it's too far away from what they
were hoping for. But, I don't know. It's a cult
classic. I like it for what it is. right it's
it's okay there are moments at the end of the
movie in the final battle obviously you get the
he -man scene with him pulling the sword out
of the thing and having the i have the power
thing and then you have the thing at the end
with him in front of gray skull thing i like
the battle with skeletor even though it's a battle
with blade more you know but i like that i like
the design on god like I, as a kid and even 10
years ago when we did this for Movie Week in
Review, which again, as I said earlier, I will
link in the show notes on the podcast episode
post. I did not like God Skeletor back then.
And I did not like God Skeletor back as a kid
because I wanted the purple. I wanted the this.
I wanted the that. But now I kind of dig it.
I think it's kind of cool to show, you know,
what other color. then gold are you going to
take this character to? It shows he has more
power than what he already even had. So I dig
it. It's all right. It works. If I'm rating this
on the GCN universal rating system, it's somewhere
between a two and a half and a three for me,
somewhere between two and a half and three. I'm
not that hard on it, I guess. I give it a five.
What? No, I'm just kidding. I was, I was actually
on a 10 point scale. Come on now. I give it like
a, yeah, if it was out of five, I'm probably
giving it a two and a half, like maybe somewhere
in there. Um, it's, it's fine. It's what it lacks
from a technical standpoint. It wins me over
from just a fun nostalgia. champy standpoint
so like it's right in the middle it's not great
for any means but i don't think it's the worst
thing i've ever seen it's better than most video
game movies true so there's that and just for
those that may not know and the gcr universal
rating system is linked in almost every episode
post of all of our podcasts on the geekcast radio
network but just in case people don't know i've
actually been doing this when we've been rating
stuff lately 2 .5 below average The cons slightly
outweigh the pros. While the negatives aren't
overbearing, they are far too plentiful to make
it worthy of a recommend. There may be certain
redeeming qualities that are worth your time.
However, in the end, the product leaves you wanting
more. That could not be more descriptive. Yeah,
so my rating's a 2 .5, your rating's a 2 .5,
because 3 is average. I wouldn't recommend this
to someone to watch like this, unless they're
like in a crappy movie night and you're just
going to sit around and have fun and make fun
of it. Like that could be fun, but it's not something
that you can recommend like realistically to
people to watch. Yeah, no, not at all. Not at
all. All right. We are going to take a quick
break, and then we're going to come back and
let you know what's coming up next here on the
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