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In the center of the universe, on the planet

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Eternia, looms Castle Greyskull, ancient fortress

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of mystery. Its power sought by the dark forces

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of Snake Mountain, sanctuary of sin and sorrow,

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ruled by the demon Skeletor and his evil acolytes,

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and the only thing that stands in their way.

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is prince adam who defends the secrets of castle

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greyskull as he -man the most powerful man in

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the universe only four others share this secret

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guardians of greyskull all amidst an army of

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the honorable Committed to guarding Castle Greyskull

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from the havoc of destruction. For those who

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control Greyskull control the power. The power

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to be Masters of the Universe! Hello, this is

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Optimus Solo, and welcome to the 126th chapter

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in our Powers of Greyskull series. With me for

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this journey, as he has been for the other 125

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chapters, is TFG1 Mike. Hello. This wasn't the

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plan. You screwed up the plan, man. You definitely

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changed the plan. That is true. And today we

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are bringing you a very special episode. And

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because of that, we thought it would be fitting

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to bring back a very special guest. So with us,

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like he was in episode 125, crossing over from

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the planet of Cybertron once again, none other

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than Steve Megatron. Hello. Hello. And today

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we have the privilege of bringing you another

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very special look at the new Netflix series from

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Kevin Smith, Masters of the Universe Revelation.

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Last episode we gave you a sneak peek, spoiler

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-free discussion of the series, but now that

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the series has been released and you've had the

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chance to watch it, we are finally free to spoil

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the heck out of it. So you have been warned,

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if you have not yet seen the series, please go

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watch it first. Then come back so you can enjoy

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an unfiltered discussion on all things Revelation.

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You cannot get mad at us anymore for spoiling

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this. So we hope you're ready, because it's time

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to go back to eternity. Spoilers. Alright, so

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it is time to spoil Revelation. You've all seen

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it. We don't have to hide anything. We can talk

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about everything that happens, goes -ons, the

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ups and the downs, the deaths and everything

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else. So let's get right into it. I'm going to

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try to do this somewhat in order of what we kind

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of are revealed through these revelations as

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they happen. So the first major thing that we

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get to see is Teela being promoted to man -at

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-arms. And this is where people freak out and

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they're saying we're changing He -Man and we're

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making Teela a main character and blah, blah,

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blah. This is going to be Teela in the Masters

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of the Universe, not He -Man, et cetera, et cetera,

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et cetera. Mike, what did you think? They are

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taking her on a journey. Like, this is not Filmation

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Teela. This is not 2002 Teela. Better than both.

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There are aspects of those, like her friendship.

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maybe future relationship with Adam, whatever.

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There are hints there and everything, but this

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is not the old school stuff. This is taking her

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characters, her character traits and her character's

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journey that's supposed to happen and putting

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her on a path. It's no different, though, in

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a way than what they did, Mike, with Filmation.

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When they did go through Tila's backstory, they

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did hint at things about her relationships and

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her family and stuff like that. This is, in a

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way, no different than that. Except for they

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happen to promote her to Man at Arms. But guess

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what, guys? As life happens, people age. Things

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happen. People quit their jobs. People retire.

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People get promoted. People do new things. So,

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like, this isn't changing anything. It's just

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a progression. And it's logical. It's a continuation

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of the story. It's a logical progression. Who

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else would take over for Man -at -Arms besides

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the number two person to Man -at -Arms, which

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has always been Teela? I think the difference

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is that we always assumed, or I personally always

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assumed, that Man -at -Arms was his codename,

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not his position. It's always been said that

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he's kind of... the military leader of for, you

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know, for Randor and, and all of that and everything

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else. And I think that people on the internet

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are, Oh my God, she's now going to be blah, blah,

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blah, blah, blah. And there are like chief executive

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officers. There are plenty of female chief executive

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officers out there that have nothing to do with

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the fact that they're. A woman. Yeah, it's a

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knee -jerk reaction nowadays. Anytime you take

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a character that was male before and now make

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it a female, everyone's like, oh, you're just

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trying some liberal bullshit, and blah, blah,

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blah. Anyways, I don't think it's anything to

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do with that. I think it's just she was the natural

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choice to take over for him, and that's where

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this story needed to go. Steve, what did you

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think of her kind of taking on this new role

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and kind of being a central figure to this whole

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series? I honestly didn't mind it. I always kind

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of, I mean, I didn't see that much of it in the

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past, but I didn't feel like her character had

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all that much going on anyway, and so it kind

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of gives her more of a third dimension than what

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we've gotten to this point. Yeah, before she

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was always more cardboard, so let's add some

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layers to her. Yeah, and I mean, for the fact

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that, one, He -Man's always been the center.

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You know, him, Orko, and Sorceress and Man -at

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-Arms. I mean, that's pretty much it. I mean,

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them and Cringer. So, I mean, to flesh out everybody

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else, it was really different. Absolutely. I

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don't think it was bad, though. And I'm like,

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with most things, I'm going to go in with an

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open mind and let me watch it and see what happens.

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And I'll judge it after the fact. But I had no

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problem with that at the beginning. You know,

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Man -at -Arms is a term that's existed for a

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long time, so it is a title. But I can see how

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some people thought that was the character's

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name instead of not realizing it was Duncan,

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you know, et cetera, et cetera. So I get that.

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But if that wasn't enough of a shock in the first

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episode, let's get to the main reveal, the main

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shock, which is... Something that's always been

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a part of Filmation and all of He -Man's stories

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is that only select people know He -Man's identity.

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It's the same thing in She -Ra. Only select people

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know She -Ra's identity. So there was a very

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small, knit, central group that knew He -Man's

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secret. And there was all kinds of ways that

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they hinted at this throughout Filmation. Like,

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what if we put He -Man in this situation? How

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is he going to not reveal his secret? Or what

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if we do this? you know, capture Adam. And then

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there's no way for human to be a part of this

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episode. They, they hinted at it all the time.

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Like, you know, through a film, this is, this

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is what I was talking about last episode, specifically

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with Marlena. I love what they did because if

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you remember, and I know you know this, but if

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people go back and watch the 2002 Mike Young

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productions series, Marlena knows. That whole

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episode with her being stranded in the forest

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and her having to be rescued by Cringer and Randor,

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and Cringer knows these forests and everything

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else, she figures it out. So by the end of, even

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though it didn't technically get an ending, by

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the end of 2002, we already know that Marlena

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in the background knows. And I love that she

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already knew. Yeah, so basically after Filmation

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teased it probably a hundred times of are they

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going to figure out He -Man's secret, we finally

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put He -Man in the situation. that he cannot

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avoid. He has to reveal his secret. So Teela

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finally learns that He -Man and Adam are one

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and the same. Not only does Teela learn this,

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King Randor learns this for the first time, etc.

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So, Steve, what do you think of them finally

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breaking that secret right off the bat here,

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first episode, and also some of the reactions,

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whether it be Teela's reactions, the King and

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Queen's reactions. Did you think those were justified,

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or what was your reaction to those? Oh, I definitely

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think it was justified. They were betrayed. I

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mean, or they felt that way because it had been

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the secret, except for the select few that were

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close to them, too. And they just didn't tell

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anybody. And so, yeah, I mean, I could see where

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their reactions were legitimate and where they

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would be upset by it. Yeah, I can see them being

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upset, being thrown off. Mike, do you think it

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was warranted to basically banish Duncan and

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Orko and just fly off the handle like the king

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did? Or what was your reaction to that? I have

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the power. I have to say, and I know everybody

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in this room is going to groan and do an eye

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roll when I say this. I do not lie. And I meant

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to mention this last episode. I do not like Oswald,

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a .k .a. Batman the Brave and the Bold, as King

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Randor's voice, because his reaction, the way

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he reacted, and the anger that he has, it, like,

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I felt like he should have, like, he may not

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have had known like Marlena knew, but I think

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he should have had a better reaction. I don't

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think he should have banished them. Being upset

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with somebody is more than fine. You give them

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some time to relax and maybe come back and have

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a conversation. But just I don't like the reaction

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of Randor. I didn't like it either, but only

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because I felt like it went from zero to 100

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really fast. But at the same time, he is reacting

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also to the fact that his son is dead. So, I

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mean, see, that's that's the problem. Right.

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That's that's the biggest problem. I feel like

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that's the the icing on the cake that makes it

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so that he's so like that's why everybody's really

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betrayed is because not only did they find out

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he's He -Man, but that he died. Right. So let's

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get in right to that then. Like Skeletor and

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He -Man die in like the introductory to the series.

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Where are we? This is the heart of the castle

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where the Council of Elders buried the secrets

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of Grayskull. All the magic that flows through

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Eternia starts here. And it's going to be all

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mine. Let this be our final battle. Obviously,

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it's a cartoon and there's different ways that

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some stuff's not always finalized or whatever,

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but Steve, what did you think when they just

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immediately take the main two characters and...

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Get rid of them. I was genuinely shocked, especially

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with how Skeletor staged it so that He -Man would

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purposely stab him. Yeah, I was like, how did

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that work? And unlock the... Whatever it was.

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Yeah, the chamber of magic, as it were. This

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particular plot point, though, does come back

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to roost in the other Netflix series we'll talk

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about later. because there's a scene where they

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do something very similar. Not unlocking something,

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but it's just... Yeah, that's true. There's a

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lot of parallels between the two that I noticed.

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Yeah, I noticed it too. But yeah, that aside,

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I thought it was rather convenient, but I also

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was kind of shocked that they... did that. And

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then all of a sudden there's this big boom and

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then there's nothing. Right. Here's the thing.

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The internet, this is where they lose their mind,

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right? Because they've been talking all this

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crap for months now about this better not be

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a Tila story. He -Man better be the main thing,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then in the

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first episode, we promote Tila and we kill off

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He -Man. So they're going to lose their minds,

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right, Mike? Yes, they are. And again, as I watched

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this, I was like, okay, that makes sense. You

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need to kill off He -Man in order to get the

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emotional resonance from Marlena and Randor and

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everybody else. You need to send Teela on a journey

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of, oh, I'm just going to say this because I

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know they won't. Fuck magic. Like, seriously,

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that's what she's all about, the technology.

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She doesn't give a shit about magic. After this

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happens, where they take her on her journey,

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she... basically goes off everywhere else other

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than staying in Eternia and protecting the kingdom.

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Of course, what do you have to protect the kingdom

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from? Because Skeletor is dead. We'll get into

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that. I know, but I'm saying like you said, they

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kill He -Man, they kill Skeletor, they promote

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Teela. I think it worked well for the story that

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is told so far in these first five episodes because

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it gives her a character It gives her a way of,

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I have so much emotion this way that I'm going

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to, like, perfect example for me personally.

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Podcast I listen to, the Radiant Black podcast,

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is about Kyle Higgins' ongoing series at Image

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Comics called Radiant Black. Well, the hosts

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of that lovely podcast, in their fourth episode,

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they mention another comic book that... influences

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and whatever else they mentioned Invincible.

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And they mentioned Invincible in this podcast,

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in this 40 minute podcast episode, like 20 times.

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And I'm like, oh, I should take a drink every

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time they mention it. For me personally, if someone

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says, oh, oh, oh, watch, watch, watch. Oh my

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God. Oh my God. It makes me want to go the other

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way. Obviously this is a little different because

00:14:06.409 --> 00:14:10.409
hello, He -Man and Adam are dead and Skeletor

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to a lesser extent is dead and she needs to go.

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on her path so they're giving her a path to go

00:14:16.769 --> 00:14:20.389
on which is much better than just saying oh teela

00:14:20.389 --> 00:14:23.450
go do the dishes well and here's the thing like

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okay so we have this main secret that has been

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kept for decades and all these different tv episodes

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etc nobody knows you know you know clark kent

00:14:32.570 --> 00:14:34.889
superman and all this stuff so we don't know

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prince adam's he -man and the main people that

00:14:37.610 --> 00:14:40.940
don't know if we look at it The people that don't

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know for the most part, at least on the good

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side, are, like Steve said, tertiary characters.

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They're like side characters. Like, yes, King

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Randor is involved here and there, but he's not

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a main character, right? The majority of the

00:14:52.019 --> 00:14:54.000
good characters, the main ones, already know

00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:58.159
his secret. Orko, Battlecat slash Cringer, Man

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-at -Arms, Sorceress, they all already know.

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So who's the most important character that we

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have that doesn't know the secret? It's Teela.

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There's no other person that it could have had

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the same emotional resonance with outside of

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Teela. The only other main person that doesn't

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know the secret is Skeletor, and he is part of

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the disappearing act here. So he's not going

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to have an emotional reaction, plus he's on the

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opposite side. So the only person on Adam slash

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He -Man's side that this works with is Teela.

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It had to be Teela. Yeah, absolutely. I agree.

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What are they going to do? Bring Cousin Edwiner

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in here or something? Right. So basically from

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that point on, we get this whole story that's

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basically about magic and no magic. Because the

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magic has been taken out of Eternia. It's causing

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all kinds of chaos. Orko, Evelyn are having reactions.

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Sorceress is having reactions to it, etc. And

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we have a little bit of a technology versus magic

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that we'll get to. So we kind of fast forward

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a little bit to Teela and her friend Andra, who

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are going to be like... like the main two friends

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going through this journey, I guess. In a way,

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it's a new character and that usually bothers

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me, but I get that in this way it doesn't because

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Teela's trying to get away from all the characters

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that we know. So it makes sense that she would

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run into somebody and make a friend that she

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doesn't know. Although I still think this could

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possibly be the daughter of Man -at -Arms' best

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friend in the Filmation series. that's just speculation

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and me trying to be a fanboy i guess but um but

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obviously they're going on this journey they're

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they're collecting and they do they do a cool

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thing here because they start doing like the

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the MacGuffin of the week type stuff. They pay

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homage to the fact that in the Filmation series,

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almost every episode was trying to get the amulet

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of this or the crystal of this or the blah, blah,

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blah of that. So they go on these little missions

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to get goblets and different stuff. I thought

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that was funny. It was kind of a neat way to

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work that in, but also be like, that's not what

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this is about. We're not going to spend a whole

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episode on this. We're just kind of introducing

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the fact that we're doing this magic storyline.

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So I'll let you guys react to that, but also

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then react to the cult of Snake Mountain, because

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that's where we go next, basically, is this Snake

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Mountain without Skeletor, which has now become

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Triclops as the cult leader for tech. This is

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the one part that is almost too bizarre for me.

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It was super creepy, for sure. This is creepy

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as heck, and he's brainwashed some of the evil

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warriors, not all of them. But he has Trapjaw

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there. And he has some... There's like an evil

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warrior that I don't even know who that was.

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Mike, did you know who the random evil warrior

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that explodes is? I don't know who that was.

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No, I don't. I think they just created that character

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for this thing. But what did you guys... Mike,

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what did you think of Triclops' cult? And did

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it fit for you? Or how did you react to that?

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First of all... Again, it's going in the whole

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thing of the magic versus technology thing and

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everything else, which is fine. They can do that.

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I did not at all. It says it's Henry Rollins

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as the voice of Triclops. I did not hear. When

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I think of Henry Rollins, I think of all the

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movies he's been in, all of the wacky characters

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he's been. Specifically, Steve, you may or may

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not remember or like this. 1994 is The Chase

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with Charlie Sheen. He was one of the cops in

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that movie. And his voice resonates. I almost

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forgot that he was the voice of Triclops because

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it didn't sound like him to me. Yeah, he's done

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a decent amount of voice work. So I think he's

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fairly good at kind of doing different characters.

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So I didn't necessarily pick up that it was him

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either, like you, but then when I saw it, I was

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like, okay, I kind of get it. But yeah, I didn't

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have a problem with him as a voice. It was a

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weird thing they did with his character. Not

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all about the cult of Snake Mountain. It was

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almost too weird for me. I was like, I don't

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know if I'm going to stay on for this ride for

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a second, but luckily they don't stick with it

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too long. I guess it's good to show that something's

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happening at Snake Mountain without Skeletor.

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And kind of what that is. But from there, we

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kind of go to the main juxt of the rest of the

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series, which is the hero's journey almost. They're

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going to basically build up a squad or a party

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to go on this adventure where we're basically

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trying to... Recover the two halves of the sword.

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Yes, the power sword has broken into two halves.

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Spoiler, this is what we're doing here. And half

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of it is in subternea and half of it is in preternea,

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heaven and hell. And we are going to assemble

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a group to go get that. The spoiler part or the

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interesting part there is that Evil Lynn is going

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to align with the good people, the heroes, as

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they go through that. So, Steve, what did you

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think of the gist of the rest of it where we're

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trying to recover these two halves of the sword

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to see if we can save the magic? I thought that

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the journey was kind of cool because it kind

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of took you on that almost Lord of the Rings

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type vibe of, you know, yeah, they had some opposing

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forces and people coming along the way to help.

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I mean, and then, of course, you know, you get

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multiple deaths along the way of main characters

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that you would have never thought would have

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died. Yeah, and I have a rundown that we're going

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to react to each one of those in a second. it

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was just, it was kind of cool seeing, you know,

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sorcerers helping evil in, and then, um, Granger

00:20:53.140 --> 00:20:56.240
also helped evil in, in that section. Yeah. I

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mean, and, and so they're, they're guiding Tila

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and, uh, her sidekick along the way. And it's,

00:21:05.779 --> 00:21:07.640
I don't, I don't know. I just, I thought it was

00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:09.519
kind of cool just sending them on this quest

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and to, to rebuild the two halves of the sword.

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Mike, what did you think about like that hero's

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quest type thing that we're going on? I liked

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it. I thought it was interesting. I wish that,

00:21:21.029 --> 00:21:23.750
again, this is going to the voice acting, and

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I know there's nothing we can do about it now,

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but I really wish it was Terra Strong as Teela,

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because you would have Terra Strong as Teela

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pre -summer as Andra, and they could team up

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again like they used to do in various other animated

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series. But anyway, I love this quest where everybody

00:21:40.349 --> 00:21:43.329
has to team up, like Evelyn and Orko teaming

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up. Who would have ever thought of that? But

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that is awesome. I love that. I think it's interesting.

00:21:50.019 --> 00:21:53.579
I love the way it is written. I love the way

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the writing basically says, okay, He -Man's gone.

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Skeletor, quote, gone. We need to work together

00:22:03.380 --> 00:22:08.769
to save the planet. Right. So I like that. I

00:22:08.769 --> 00:22:10.869
was trying to find some of the writers, but because

00:22:10.869 --> 00:22:13.269
we're doing this before the show actually gets

00:22:13.269 --> 00:22:15.609
released, I don't remember because I don't have

00:22:15.609 --> 00:22:18.450
the screenshots who the writing staff was for

00:22:18.450 --> 00:22:20.809
this, but I love how it's written because Kevin

00:22:20.809 --> 00:22:23.190
Smith is the show runner. He's the one that puts

00:22:23.190 --> 00:22:25.710
the ideas together or brings the people together

00:22:25.710 --> 00:22:28.890
that have the ideas for it. So I really want

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to praise the writing. It is very well done.

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That whole episode where they're in Subternia

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and they have to face Scareglow and they have

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to each go off in this two by twos and I keep

00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:49.680
having to tell the rabbits, only two, only two.

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The whole adventure thing with the questing,

00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:55.880
I thought that was very well done. I think they

00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:57.799
did a good job of balancing when the whole group

00:22:57.799 --> 00:22:59.640
was together and then also splitting them up

00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:01.279
at times so we can get some characterization

00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:04.200
and some relationship building. Sometimes they

00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:06.160
do that too much in a show or a movie where they're

00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:07.559
split up the whole time and you never get them

00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:09.319
teamed up. And I think they had both in this,

00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:12.339
which helps. So along the way, we pick up. So

00:23:12.339 --> 00:23:14.680
we have Eva Lynn. We have obviously Tila and

00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:18.579
Andra. We have them pick up Man -at -Arms in

00:23:18.579 --> 00:23:23.509
a way, Orko, Beastman. Roboto, those are the

00:23:23.509 --> 00:23:25.609
main people that are along for... I don't think

00:23:25.609 --> 00:23:27.130
I missed anybody. Those are the main people along

00:23:27.130 --> 00:23:30.650
for this journey. And we go to Hell first, and

00:23:30.650 --> 00:23:32.089
then we go to Heaven. So we go to Subternia first,

00:23:32.190 --> 00:23:34.470
and then Preternia. Before we get into the character

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deaths, which Steve brought up, which we're going

00:23:35.869 --> 00:23:37.589
to run down here in a second, just one last thing

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before that. Mike, they also reveal Greyskull's

00:23:41.250 --> 00:23:44.690
real appearance. So, to me, this was a genius

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move. Because something that I was always thrown

00:23:47.509 --> 00:23:50.819
off... during the series was like why does grayskull

00:23:50.819 --> 00:23:55.420
look like it does why is it so if it's so important

00:23:55.420 --> 00:23:58.140
and it's such a magical place and this that and

00:23:58.140 --> 00:24:01.160
the other why does it look so old so run down

00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:04.819
so evil in a way it almost has a sinister look

00:24:04.819 --> 00:24:07.680
to it and they reveal that that's all a disguise

00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:10.740
it's all a ruse it's a mirage that they're doing

00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:13.299
to try to keep it hidden and unassuming so what

00:24:13.299 --> 00:24:15.450
did you think of that reveal Yeah, I thought

00:24:15.450 --> 00:24:18.049
that was great. Because, again, they're working,

00:24:18.190 --> 00:24:21.529
like, as we said last episode, yes, it is trying

00:24:21.529 --> 00:24:26.130
to pay homage to Filmation. But where they also

00:24:26.130 --> 00:24:29.049
are working from is 2002, because they're hiding

00:24:29.049 --> 00:24:32.230
the Temple of Wisdom or Council, whatever, with

00:24:32.230 --> 00:24:34.150
the Council of Elders kind of thing. So they're

00:24:34.150 --> 00:24:38.940
working everything in to give it all to us. And

00:24:38.940 --> 00:24:42.000
I thought that finally we actually have an explanation.

00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:44.740
I mean, the explanation we were given in 2002

00:24:44.740 --> 00:24:48.059
was more than fine. Whatever. I didn't necessarily

00:24:48.059 --> 00:24:50.579
need to know where the giant castle came from,

00:24:50.619 --> 00:24:53.900
but because they are trying to not only get us,

00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:58.039
they're also trying to reel in new viewers to

00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:03.240
the franchise. I love that they called back to

00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:05.319
the temple of wisdom. I thought that was great.

00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:07.519
That a grace bill is essentially just a disguise.

00:25:09.049 --> 00:25:10.809
Steve, what did you think of the two images of

00:25:10.809 --> 00:25:15.210
Greyskull? I was always curious why it looked

00:25:15.210 --> 00:25:18.730
like a dump and just this terrifying place. And

00:25:18.730 --> 00:25:22.549
then to see it in its pure... glory there, I

00:25:22.549 --> 00:25:26.250
was like, oh, so that's what we're supposed to

00:25:26.250 --> 00:25:29.730
be seeing. So we're going to go through all the

00:25:29.730 --> 00:25:31.869
deaths, and then I'm going to talk about some

00:25:31.869 --> 00:25:33.250
characters that show up that we didn't want to

00:25:33.250 --> 00:25:35.390
spoil in the first part of this. So we'll get

00:25:35.390 --> 00:25:37.829
into some characters that do appear, how the

00:25:37.829 --> 00:25:39.869
ending goes, and kind of the cliffhanger it leaves

00:25:39.869 --> 00:25:42.089
us on. And then we have a couple of other little

00:25:42.089 --> 00:25:44.849
things towards the end to kind of put a bow on

00:25:44.849 --> 00:25:48.089
it. So, man, there's some stakes in this series.

00:25:48.289 --> 00:25:50.960
Characters do die. It's like, Transformers the

00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:54.279
movie all over again. So legit people are dying

00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:55.960
here. And there was even some people that I thought

00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:58.359
were dying that apparently didn't. But let's

00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:02.180
go down the line here. Man, they tease us. They

00:26:02.180 --> 00:26:04.599
give us Mossman. They give us Alan Oppenheimer.

00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.619
And then they immediately kill him. I was like,

00:26:08.779 --> 00:26:11.000
no, I want more Alan Oppenheimer. Luckily, we

00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:14.720
do get him in heaven. But Mike, what did you

00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:23.119
think of them burning Mossman alive? You defile

00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:26.680
the heart of Grayskull with your very presence.

00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:33.240
Leave this place and never return. That's one

00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:38.400
way to go. I mean, you know. It's, uh... That

00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:41.559
would have been the only way you could have killed

00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:47.920
Mossman. Smells like pine. You can't tend the

00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:54.970
garden without pulling a few weeds. It kind of

00:26:54.970 --> 00:26:58.509
makes sense. Again, as I mentioned last episode,

00:26:58.549 --> 00:27:00.950
I'll mention it here. With the voice cast, you

00:27:00.950 --> 00:27:08.029
have Alan flippin' Oppenheimer. I know he only

00:27:08.029 --> 00:27:11.349
plays one role. He could have played at least

00:27:11.349 --> 00:27:15.970
two. But it's just one of those things where...

00:27:18.410 --> 00:27:21.349
I love that they made him Mossman, but like you

00:27:21.349 --> 00:27:24.849
said, the fact that they kill him is like, oh

00:27:24.849 --> 00:27:28.329
boy. It's like the movie where you get that cameo

00:27:28.329 --> 00:27:29.950
where you're like, oh great, this guy shows up

00:27:29.950 --> 00:27:30.910
and you know that they're only going to have

00:27:30.910 --> 00:27:32.509
one line because that's all they were going out

00:27:32.509 --> 00:27:34.769
of retirement for or whatever. Perfect example

00:27:34.769 --> 00:27:37.230
is, even though he didn't have any lines, it's

00:27:37.230 --> 00:27:39.990
like Optimus Prime running thrust over with his

00:27:39.990 --> 00:27:43.170
truck in the movie going to face Megatron. But

00:27:43.170 --> 00:27:46.769
yeah, no, that was ooh. burned a lot. That was

00:27:46.769 --> 00:27:48.549
like the first time where you're like, I mean,

00:27:48.549 --> 00:27:50.210
obviously we do have He -Man and Skeletor dying

00:27:50.210 --> 00:27:52.029
right off the bat, but then... Obviously, but

00:27:52.029 --> 00:27:54.490
some of these deaths are pretty gruesome. Well,

00:27:54.529 --> 00:27:56.269
in He -Man and Skeletor dying right off the bat,

00:27:56.329 --> 00:27:58.029
you're like, well, that's probably going to come

00:27:58.029 --> 00:27:59.750
back in some way, shape, or form. I'm not convinced

00:27:59.750 --> 00:28:02.829
that they're 100 % dead. When Mossman gets killed,

00:28:02.930 --> 00:28:06.750
it's like, no, he's dead. That's it for him.

00:28:07.089 --> 00:28:09.170
Just to run down the rest and then get your guys'

00:28:09.289 --> 00:28:11.329
group reaction. So we had He -Man, Skeletor...

00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.440
kind of die uh mossman dead dead roboto dead

00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:20.740
dead and orco dead and buried so um steve what

00:28:20.740 --> 00:28:22.660
were you thinking as they're just killing off

00:28:22.660 --> 00:28:26.019
characters left and right i i was definitely

00:28:26.019 --> 00:28:30.960
going well no one is safe uh but i but i did

00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:33.579
have that that feeling that they weren't going

00:28:33.579 --> 00:28:38.589
to keep skeletor and he -man gone For very long.

00:28:38.769 --> 00:28:40.269
I mean, I figured that they would keep them as

00:28:40.269 --> 00:28:44.849
gone as long as they did. Um, but yeah, I always

00:28:44.849 --> 00:28:47.089
had the suspicion that they were going to, uh,

00:28:47.150 --> 00:28:52.490
um, bring them back. Right. Yeah. It's kind of

00:28:52.490 --> 00:28:55.809
odd too. Like I get Mossman and Roboto cause

00:28:55.809 --> 00:28:58.009
there's a lot of masters and you know, they can

00:28:58.009 --> 00:28:59.849
go through cycle through other ones. Orko for

00:28:59.849 --> 00:29:02.059
me was like, Whoa, like. That's one of the main

00:29:02.059 --> 00:29:06.119
guys, guys. He's not supposed to die. He's part

00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.720
of the main group. He's part of the party. You

00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:10.779
can take off Mossman and Roboto and throw in

00:29:10.779 --> 00:29:13.359
Ramman and Stratos or something, and it's fine.

00:29:13.380 --> 00:29:15.099
We still have enough characters. But when they

00:29:15.099 --> 00:29:17.160
killed off Orko, and then they buried him, and

00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:20.180
I'm like, well. I mean, they do find ways to

00:29:20.180 --> 00:29:22.920
kind of bring back Mossman through preternia,

00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:24.539
because that's where he goes, and that's where

00:29:24.539 --> 00:29:28.420
we re -meet Adam. not He -Man, but Adam in Preternia.

00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:29.980
So they kind of bring them back. We also get

00:29:29.980 --> 00:29:31.980
a lot of, I think their other thing to do, because

00:29:31.980 --> 00:29:33.220
they knew people were going to flip out that,

00:29:33.259 --> 00:29:34.720
Hey, He -Man's not here because they killed him

00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:36.019
in the first episode. And now we're going to

00:29:36.019 --> 00:29:37.839
get five episodes or however many episodes without

00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.440
He -Man. So they went out of their way to do

00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:43.200
all these flashbacks. where they can show He

00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:45.160
-Man and Teela interacting or different things.

00:29:45.299 --> 00:29:47.579
And it got He -Man more screen time. It added

00:29:47.579 --> 00:29:49.500
more action and battles and things like that.

00:29:49.539 --> 00:29:51.079
We see them, you know, interacting with Merman

00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:53.700
before they actually do in this timeline, et

00:29:53.700 --> 00:29:56.640
cetera. So what did you feel about, um, any of

00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:58.380
those flashbacks or Mike, you can also comment

00:29:58.380 --> 00:29:59.740
on any of the deaths you didn't get to talk about.

00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.720
Orko dying. Well, I loved everything they did

00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:09.180
with Orko in this because they, Showed what a

00:30:09.180 --> 00:30:11.779
bumbling magician he is. They also showed that

00:30:11.779 --> 00:30:15.579
he actually can grow and learn without a PSA

00:30:15.579 --> 00:30:18.400
at the end of the episode. Sometimes I feel that

00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.819
I am not appreciated. They showed his trolling

00:30:21.819 --> 00:30:24.920
roots kind of a little bit. And as far as the

00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:29.140
flashbacks go, again, that's how storytelling

00:30:29.140 --> 00:30:31.640
is done today in most things, especially when

00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:34.539
you kill the main character in the first episode.

00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:36.180
The way you're going to get the main character

00:30:36.180 --> 00:30:39.319
in the show. is to do a flashback. But the way

00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:41.740
the flashbacks are told in these first five episodes

00:30:41.740 --> 00:30:46.180
is it's giving you story. It's giving you more

00:30:46.180 --> 00:30:51.019
reasons to like Tila, more reasons to, like,

00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:54.359
you know, she's figuring all this out. She's

00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:56.839
remembering back to certain points, even when

00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.319
they go to Preternia and she sees Adam and everything.

00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:05.359
It's like, hmm, okay. It's adding to the overall

00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:07.690
story, which is, You don't ever want to take

00:31:07.690 --> 00:31:09.829
away from the story. You don't just want to put

00:31:09.829 --> 00:31:17.170
in a Havoc staff just to have it. Right. I also

00:31:17.170 --> 00:31:18.849
think it was the least annoying version of Orko

00:31:18.849 --> 00:31:22.049
we've ever gotten. It was the most that you could

00:31:22.049 --> 00:31:23.990
relate to him and not be driven crazy. Usually

00:31:23.990 --> 00:31:26.710
80s cartoons get the rap of, you always have

00:31:26.710 --> 00:31:29.609
the annoying sidekick, the T -Bob or the Orko

00:31:29.609 --> 00:31:32.369
or whatever. Orko was not annoying to me at all

00:31:32.369 --> 00:31:34.690
in this. No, I loved Orko in this. You could

00:31:34.690 --> 00:31:36.410
easily relate to him. I also think he has the

00:31:36.410 --> 00:31:38.089
best line in the whole series, or at least the

00:31:38.089 --> 00:31:40.950
one that hit home for me. I thought this series

00:31:40.950 --> 00:31:44.710
does a very good job of touching on the concept

00:31:44.710 --> 00:31:49.880
of time. And how time passes because this series

00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:53.480
is decades old, right? Like it's a revisiting

00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:55.940
of a series that happened during our childhood.

00:31:56.259 --> 00:31:59.000
And for those that are our age now, we are adults,

00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:00.920
et cetera. We have our own children or whatever

00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:04.380
the case may be. And Orko makes a comment about,

00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:06.579
you know, he's talking to Tila when he's kind

00:32:06.579 --> 00:32:08.240
of sick and worn down when they're first meeting

00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:09.539
him. And he's like, you know, I had the best

00:32:09.539 --> 00:32:13.059
times of my life with you. And something about

00:32:13.059 --> 00:32:14.759
the way he delivered that line and what's going

00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.640
on right there was a bigger statement about the

00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:21.319
series as a whole. This series, when it was playing

00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.720
in its original time, those, for some of us,

00:32:24.740 --> 00:32:26.319
were the best times of our lives. When we're

00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:28.960
kids, when we're playing with toys, when we don't

00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:30.140
have to worry about anything but coming home

00:32:30.140 --> 00:32:32.839
and watching our cartoons. That line that Orko

00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.059
delivered just resonated with me huge. And it

00:32:36.059 --> 00:32:39.500
just kind of talked about the whole idea that

00:32:39.500 --> 00:32:44.660
this series... is kind of a conceptualization

00:32:44.660 --> 00:32:48.480
of time passing, um, and kind of how that's gone.

00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.079
So I thought that was a great line. I thought

00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:54.140
Orca was great. Um, any thoughts on any of the

00:32:54.140 --> 00:32:55.680
other characters that showed up that we didn't

00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.240
get to mention? Cause we get to see hero. We

00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:02.039
get to see Faker. We get to see actual, the character

00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:06.859
Greyskull, King Greyskull. You know, their names

00:33:06.859 --> 00:33:09.500
are Vykor and Kudak, but the older version of

00:33:09.500 --> 00:33:11.920
the sorceress that we do get to see in one of

00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:13.839
the, in Filmation, right, Mike, that we saw her?

00:33:14.700 --> 00:33:16.700
And stuff like that. So we get to see those.

00:33:16.740 --> 00:33:18.480
We get to see Strider right off the bat. He -Man's

00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.660
riding Strider. So, Mike, what did you think

00:33:21.660 --> 00:33:22.980
about some of these other characters kind of

00:33:22.980 --> 00:33:25.920
at least being addressed or shown? I liked that

00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.900
they were done. And I have to say that Griffin

00:33:28.900 --> 00:33:33.420
Newman as Orko, that line you just mentioned,

00:33:33.619 --> 00:33:37.819
it's like shades of Lou Scheimer. It really is.

00:33:37.859 --> 00:33:41.859
It really is going back to what we've already

00:33:41.859 --> 00:33:45.099
had. And, you know, throwing in the other characters,

00:33:45.140 --> 00:33:49.319
again, it's great. It's done well. It's not just...

00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:54.759
This was my ultimate fear with this show. Because...

00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.640
Kevin Smith is the showrunner. Hey, kids, look.

00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:03.500
It's Mark Hamill. Applause. That was my ultimate

00:34:03.500 --> 00:34:07.259
fear. After I saw one of the first trailers,

00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.760
I was kind of okay with it. Was this going to

00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.199
be fan service, you mean? Yeah. It was just going

00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.699
to be, hey, guess what? They were going to beat

00:34:16.699 --> 00:34:19.679
you over the head with the homages, with the

00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:22.460
characters, with this. The fact that they even

00:34:22.460 --> 00:34:26.000
get Wondar in here, I mean, Mr. Wonderbread He

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.000
-Man, like, that was awesome. The way they put

00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.500
this together, these first five minutes. And

00:34:31.500 --> 00:34:33.539
Scarecrow. I forgot Scarecrow. Yeah, exactly.

00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.059
We've never seen, to my knowledge, we've never

00:34:38.059 --> 00:34:41.099
seen Scarecrow in animation. He's only always

00:34:41.099 --> 00:34:45.019
been in toys or in the comics or whatever. So

00:34:45.019 --> 00:34:48.250
having that was awesome. Again. dealing with

00:34:48.250 --> 00:34:50.690
heaven and hell, with preternia and subternia.

00:34:50.730 --> 00:34:52.949
The only thing, even though they were more so

00:34:52.949 --> 00:34:57.469
making subternia hell versus what was done in

00:34:57.469 --> 00:35:02.909
2002, the only thing I'm missing is... Oh, who

00:35:02.909 --> 00:35:05.710
are the races, Kev? I know what you're talking

00:35:05.710 --> 00:35:07.210
about. That was weird that they weren't there.

00:35:07.630 --> 00:35:12.070
Yeah, so basically in 2002, it was Buzzoff's

00:35:12.070 --> 00:35:16.230
people, the Andrinids, and... Oh, fuck. Anyway.

00:35:16.510 --> 00:35:18.110
There's two underground. Right, right, right.

00:35:18.190 --> 00:35:20.989
Basically, it was Gary Chalk as a leader of one,

00:35:21.090 --> 00:35:23.570
and Richard Newman as... Basically, Optimus Primal

00:35:23.570 --> 00:35:26.869
and Rhinox were the voices of the lead characters

00:35:26.869 --> 00:35:29.670
of each of these races who were at war. The Caligars

00:35:29.670 --> 00:35:32.570
and the... Caligars and the... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:32.570 --> 00:35:37.690
Anyway. The point is, is... I know they couldn't

00:35:37.690 --> 00:35:39.710
have done that here, but I still wish we would

00:35:39.710 --> 00:35:41.989
have seen that. But I love the fact that we have

00:35:41.989 --> 00:35:45.110
scareglow and animation for the first time. And

00:35:45.110 --> 00:35:47.230
the fact that we have a story that is basically

00:35:47.230 --> 00:35:51.449
telling you, you have to go to the worst place

00:35:51.449 --> 00:35:54.050
in order to, you have to go to your worst place

00:35:54.050 --> 00:35:57.230
before you can come back and be what you were.

00:35:57.789 --> 00:36:01.389
It's all kinds of interesting subtext and interesting

00:36:01.389 --> 00:36:05.130
storyline of how they tell the story. And Kevin

00:36:05.130 --> 00:36:10.570
Smith is, is not one to shy away from going against

00:36:10.570 --> 00:36:13.130
anybody. Yeah. I'm just like dogma. I mean, dogma

00:36:13.130 --> 00:36:15.670
was a slap in the face at religion, which is

00:36:15.670 --> 00:36:17.889
fine. Whatever. It was funny. I loved it. But

00:36:17.889 --> 00:36:20.989
it, but my point is, is they've not only taken

00:36:20.989 --> 00:36:24.969
the IP characters of he man and the masters of

00:36:24.969 --> 00:36:27.929
the universe and given us new things with them.

00:36:28.230 --> 00:36:31.210
They've told a story in these five short episodes.

00:36:31.769 --> 00:36:37.070
That is. Very well done. And the last thing before

00:36:37.070 --> 00:36:38.909
I can let Steve get back in here, Mike, you know,

00:36:38.909 --> 00:36:40.750
this is what we begged for throughout all the

00:36:40.750 --> 00:36:42.409
filmation. We're like, give us more of the history.

00:36:42.510 --> 00:36:45.789
Give us more of, you know, King Grayskull. Give

00:36:45.789 --> 00:36:48.630
us more of what the backstory is, what the relationships

00:36:48.630 --> 00:36:52.150
are. And this series does that. So there's no

00:36:52.150 --> 00:36:53.670
way I can hate on this for doing what I've been

00:36:53.670 --> 00:36:57.869
begging other series to do. So then we go to

00:36:57.869 --> 00:37:00.050
Subternia, we go to Preternia. Preternia gives

00:37:00.050 --> 00:37:03.269
us, you know, the hero and King Greyskull, Vykor,

00:37:03.369 --> 00:37:07.230
Kudak, and Adam, who are all dead, Mossman, you

00:37:07.230 --> 00:37:09.329
know, all these characters that have earned...

00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:12.639
the afterlife of being in paradise basically

00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.159
um versus those that don't and so we get to see

00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:17.980
them all kind of in a group they go on this hunt

00:37:17.980 --> 00:37:20.360
which is kind of an interesting thing um and

00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:21.679
then we learned that you know adam's the one

00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:24.539
that did not choose the the larger form he did

00:37:24.539 --> 00:37:27.219
not choose to stay as he -man he's there as adam

00:37:27.219 --> 00:37:29.320
whereas everybody else is their bulky you know

00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.059
strong version so that's kind of interesting

00:37:31.059 --> 00:37:35.039
and then we get adam deciding to go back with

00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.300
the group to try to help, even though he knows

00:37:38.300 --> 00:37:42.460
by doing so, one character says you may not be

00:37:42.460 --> 00:37:44.280
able to come back, one character says you will

00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.599
not be able to come back, so we don't know exactly

00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:48.539
how that works, but there's a chance that he's

00:37:48.539 --> 00:37:50.079
never going to be able to go back to this paradise,

00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:52.880
and he's going to take that chance. Steve, that

00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.840
leads us to the ending cliffhanger, which is

00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:58.860
basically, we killed He -Man in the first episode,

00:37:59.139 --> 00:38:02.360
he comes back in this last one, back to Eternia,

00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:06.590
and then Skeletor kills him again. Yeah, I thought

00:38:06.590 --> 00:38:09.610
the twist on how they did that, because that

00:38:09.610 --> 00:38:11.829
left another conundrum, because not only was

00:38:11.829 --> 00:38:16.250
he killed as Adam before he could finally utter

00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:21.309
all the words, but Skeletor was just biding his

00:38:21.309 --> 00:38:25.780
time in the staff. Right, which is crazy. and

00:38:25.780 --> 00:38:28.119
just waiting for that moment. Like, I'm just

00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.940
in hibernation, waiting for enough magic. So

00:38:31.940 --> 00:38:34.340
he probably was just draining it while everybody

00:38:34.340 --> 00:38:38.159
else was suffering. Look at my face, child! It

00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:41.219
has furnished for me a lonely life in which none

00:38:41.219 --> 00:38:47.780
would have me as a man. So, then let me be a

00:38:47.780 --> 00:39:02.349
god. By the power of Greyskull! I have the power!

00:39:11.489 --> 00:39:24.780
Now I, Skeletor, am master of the universe! he

00:39:24.780 --> 00:39:29.380
takes the sword and becomes Skele -God. Which

00:39:29.380 --> 00:39:30.980
I don't know about the look of Skele -God. It's

00:39:30.980 --> 00:39:33.539
a little bit crazy, but like... Well, and the

00:39:33.539 --> 00:39:35.719
funny thing about that is, is they're like, in

00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.539
the embargo, they're like, don't tell anybody

00:39:38.539 --> 00:39:41.000
about Skele -God, but... The toy's out on the

00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:43.159
shelf. The toy's out on... Again, that's what

00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:46.380
I was saying last episode. So, yeah, it makes

00:39:46.380 --> 00:39:49.199
no damn sense. Like, I understand embargoes.

00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.039
Trust me, I get it. But it's like, it's like,

00:39:52.139 --> 00:39:54.880
hold... You know, if you're going to have something

00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:58.639
monumental like this, hold the toy until after

00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.739
the show. Right, right, right. So my thought

00:40:01.739 --> 00:40:03.400
is this. Obviously, we don't know where it's

00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:04.659
going to go from here because that's kind of

00:40:04.659 --> 00:40:08.239
how it ends. And, you know, he raises the sword

00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:10.059
of power, becomes Skele -God, says, you know,

00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:12.739
I have the power and I am the master of the universe.

00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:14.739
And they do the cool little animation thing where

00:40:14.739 --> 00:40:16.820
he's like superimposed or whatever, which I thought

00:40:16.820 --> 00:40:20.690
was pretty cool. But I feel like they've almost

00:40:20.690 --> 00:40:23.610
drawn themselves into a corner because you already

00:40:23.610 --> 00:40:25.710
pissed everybody off, probably, by killing He

00:40:25.710 --> 00:40:29.210
-Man in the original first part of this. He's

00:40:29.210 --> 00:40:31.130
gone in a way, even though he's in flashbacks

00:40:31.130 --> 00:40:32.989
and even though we see him in preternia, etc.

00:40:33.250 --> 00:40:34.750
So he's still part of the show, but it's like,

00:40:34.769 --> 00:40:36.610
okay, we kind of killed him off. You bring him

00:40:36.610 --> 00:40:40.889
back, you stab him, and either you have three

00:40:40.889 --> 00:40:43.849
options. Your first option is that he doesn't

00:40:43.849 --> 00:40:46.170
really die because somebody with magic now saves

00:40:46.170 --> 00:40:48.980
him. Which I think has to be what they do, because

00:40:48.980 --> 00:40:51.579
the only other options are either he is dead

00:40:51.579 --> 00:40:54.679
again and dead for good, which would piss off

00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:58.519
everybody, or he's dead and you bring him back

00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:02.539
to life a second time. Which seems like a weird

00:41:02.539 --> 00:41:04.760
thing to do. So I'm assuming somebody's going

00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:08.460
to save him before he dies, but that's the cliffhanger

00:41:08.460 --> 00:41:12.300
we're left with. I don't know. I am not sure.

00:41:12.380 --> 00:41:15.780
I have no clue what they are going to do in episodes

00:41:15.780 --> 00:41:20.460
6 through 10. I am excited to learn and find

00:41:20.460 --> 00:41:25.340
out what they do. After watching this, I was

00:41:25.340 --> 00:41:33.920
like, okay, that's part one. And that's, uh -huh,

00:41:34.019 --> 00:41:35.860
okay. It would have been so easy for them to

00:41:35.860 --> 00:41:39.730
bring He -Man's back. You let Skeletor out of

00:41:39.730 --> 00:41:41.789
the thing, and then the cliffhanger is now we

00:41:41.789 --> 00:41:43.969
have our good guys and our bad guys again, and

00:41:43.969 --> 00:41:45.570
they're going to battle in the second part. But

00:41:45.570 --> 00:41:47.090
they completely flipped the script the second

00:41:47.090 --> 00:41:49.130
time. You weren't expecting him to die once.

00:41:49.170 --> 00:41:50.869
You definitely weren't expecting him to die twice.

00:41:52.530 --> 00:41:55.489
So again, here's the thing with putting action

00:41:55.489 --> 00:41:58.489
figures and merchandise out before seeing what

00:41:58.489 --> 00:42:00.869
actually happens in the show. It's much like

00:42:00.869 --> 00:42:04.389
I think I mentioned this on one of the more recent

00:42:04.389 --> 00:42:07.800
HGTF episodes that we released. When we were

00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:12.059
talking about Mirage from War for Cybertron,

00:42:12.179 --> 00:42:15.760
Siege, Earthrise, all that. When they released

00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.000
the toy with him with a Decepticon symbol on

00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:21.519
it, everybody was like, Mirage is a Decepticon?

00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.239
What's going on here? Kind of thing. It's the

00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.760
same thing here with Skele -God. Like, what's

00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:29.619
going on? How is this happening? What are we

00:42:29.619 --> 00:42:34.420
going to do? And I think, personally... We now

00:42:34.420 --> 00:42:36.980
live in an age where seasons are either split

00:42:36.980 --> 00:42:39.780
up or seasons are short seasons where we get

00:42:39.780 --> 00:42:44.719
13 episodes or less. So far, as far as we know,

00:42:44.780 --> 00:42:46.980
this series is only going to be 10 episodes.

00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:50.460
It may be 10 episodes and then it doesn't get

00:42:50.460 --> 00:42:52.880
a second season or whatever. I don't know what

00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:54.599
Mattel and Netflix and everybody else is going

00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:59.760
to do. I personally wish we had. All 10 right

00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.420
now because of the fact that you have the toys

00:43:03.420 --> 00:43:09.019
already showing this character. But nobody knows

00:43:09.019 --> 00:43:13.019
what the hell is the deal. But they've also got

00:43:13.019 --> 00:43:16.780
this little other conundrum and that I can't

00:43:16.780 --> 00:43:19.719
say in this episode, but there's another franchise

00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:23.300
where certain figures that have been released.

00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:28.800
play no part whatsoever in the entire series

00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.900
and yet we have them released and people are

00:43:30.900 --> 00:43:32.739
like those are going to be cool when we see them

00:43:32.739 --> 00:43:34.699
in there that's going to be awesome and then

00:43:34.699 --> 00:43:36.760
nothing like there's no payoff and we already

00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.639
had people with this one that got completely

00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:42.099
sold on the fact that it was He -Man instead

00:43:42.099 --> 00:43:44.619
of Faker which anybody with a brain should have

00:43:44.619 --> 00:43:46.179
been able to figure that out but like people

00:43:46.179 --> 00:43:49.780
were already like kind of thrown off by stuff

00:43:49.780 --> 00:43:51.440
that they put out promotionally with this one.

00:43:51.619 --> 00:43:54.860
So I wanted to have a chance to go through just

00:43:54.860 --> 00:43:57.219
some, you know, final notes and stuff. I have

00:43:57.219 --> 00:43:59.440
some character talk that I'd like to get to just

00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.079
real quickly. And then a little bit of the dialogue

00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:03.719
that I appreciated. And then I have a couple

00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:05.880
of nitpicks, so we can go through those as well.

00:44:05.980 --> 00:44:08.039
But we already talked about Queen Marlene and

00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:10.800
King Randor. I wasn't a huge fan of them. But

00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.059
I do like the fact that Marlena kind of knew

00:44:13.059 --> 00:44:15.019
because that kind of, like Mike said, works.

00:44:15.699 --> 00:44:17.420
I want to talk real quickly because I do two

00:44:17.420 --> 00:44:20.380
things with both Tila and Eva Lynn, which is

00:44:20.380 --> 00:44:24.800
they allow them to take their helmets, crowns,

00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:28.360
et cetera, off and see their hair, which is something

00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:30.480
I don't feel like we ever got to do. Tila with

00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:33.139
long hair, Eva Lynn with long hair, and then

00:44:33.139 --> 00:44:36.059
Tila cuts it off and goes with like a shorter

00:44:36.059 --> 00:44:40.619
hairstyle, which is always different. It was

00:44:40.619 --> 00:44:44.880
like a lightbulb moment when Tila let her hair

00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:48.039
down. Because I was like, who knew that that

00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:51.559
was all it took for her not to be looking like

00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.199
a character I hated throughout all of Filmation.

00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:57.300
As soon as she had long hair, I'm like, oh, you

00:44:57.300 --> 00:45:01.099
don't look like a bitch anymore. Because in Filmation,

00:45:01.260 --> 00:45:06.099
she was naggy. I wasn't a fan of her character.

00:45:06.380 --> 00:45:09.519
I liked her fine in 2002. But I thought she looked

00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:10.840
amazing with long hair, and I thought she looked

00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:12.539
good with the short hair afterwards. I know people

00:45:12.539 --> 00:45:13.980
are going to freak out about them changing her

00:45:13.980 --> 00:45:16.880
hair, but I thought it was cool. On the Evelyn

00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:18.980
side, really quick, people are more freaked out

00:45:18.980 --> 00:45:20.920
that it's long and not short, because we did

00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:24.699
get the reveal of Evelyn with short hair in 2002.

00:45:25.300 --> 00:45:27.179
And she gives up her helmet at one point. She

00:45:27.179 --> 00:45:30.519
leaves it at Orko's grave. At his grave. That

00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:32.679
was cool. The other thing, character -wise, and

00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:34.000
then I'll let you guys talk a little bit if you

00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.519
had anything else, I think this is the best Beastman

00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:39.920
we've ever gotten. The most competent one anyway.

00:45:40.300 --> 00:45:42.000
Yeah, because I like the fact that he's competent.

00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:43.880
I like the fact that he's kind of a badass. So

00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:46.699
I love Beastman in this. And then we also, we

00:45:46.699 --> 00:45:48.260
were talking about Oracle before. I forgot to

00:45:48.260 --> 00:45:49.880
say that the thing that they threw in about his

00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.400
real name being Oracle. So I thought that was

00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:55.400
a kind of a neat little clever thing to do. I

00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:57.019
don't think that's been ever talked about before

00:45:57.019 --> 00:46:00.500
in the franchise. No. So, Mike, what did you

00:46:00.500 --> 00:46:01.880
think about those things? Anything else character

00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:07.000
-wise you wanted to bring up? I really like the

00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.940
characterization with Tila and Andra. Like, they

00:46:09.940 --> 00:46:14.039
are the kick -ass team. They are the ones that

00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.300
are going to help each other bring the best out

00:46:16.300 --> 00:46:19.360
of each other. With Orko, like you said, no.

00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:24.059
Oracle has never been a thing to my knowledge.

00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:27.739
His just name was Orko. I mean, you know, it

00:46:27.739 --> 00:46:32.679
is what it is. I love, love what they did with

00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:37.949
Evelyn. She's not... just... She is evil. And

00:46:37.949 --> 00:46:44.170
I love how they even did this. I think it's Teela

00:46:44.170 --> 00:46:48.670
or it's probably Orko. Can I call you Lin? No,

00:46:48.710 --> 00:46:55.030
you cannot. And then later in the show, she says,

00:46:55.110 --> 00:46:57.989
oh yeah, I added the evil part later. So again,

00:46:58.130 --> 00:47:03.340
that layers to her character again. We now live

00:47:03.340 --> 00:47:06.059
in a world where character development and story

00:47:06.059 --> 00:47:11.000
development and continuity is king. And I love

00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:13.500
that. I think that's great. It's just, yeah.

00:47:14.260 --> 00:47:16.480
And Andra has a line, too, where she's like,

00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:18.500
so we're supposed to be following the person

00:47:18.500 --> 00:47:23.420
whose name is Evil Lynn? Yeah. I love that, because

00:47:23.420 --> 00:47:25.219
it's never mentioned in the original series.

00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:28.369
Nobody ever, like... Yeah. understands that and

00:47:28.369 --> 00:47:30.389
it's like they call that out immediately so that

00:47:30.389 --> 00:47:33.590
was kind of a fun thing um steve anything else

00:47:33.590 --> 00:47:34.949
character wise that you wanted to talk about

00:47:34.949 --> 00:47:40.010
uh no i mean i was just kind of enjoying the

00:47:40.010 --> 00:47:42.510
the changes and the transformations of the various

00:47:42.510 --> 00:47:45.090
characters as the series progressed because you

00:47:45.090 --> 00:47:48.150
never got a lot of that just the the evolution

00:47:48.150 --> 00:47:51.090
and the the characterization changes that that

00:47:51.090 --> 00:47:53.090
were made in this compared to the original stuff

00:47:53.090 --> 00:47:55.530
you just stuff that wasn't really a part of the

00:47:55.530 --> 00:47:57.909
storyline so it didn't matter whereas here it's

00:47:57.909 --> 00:48:00.670
kind of thrown in there for like little bits

00:48:00.670 --> 00:48:05.090
of added uh right added elements for the story

00:48:05.090 --> 00:48:07.110
and for the characters so that it's not just

00:48:07.110 --> 00:48:11.250
growing for a set storyline. Yep. I agree with

00:48:11.250 --> 00:48:13.289
that. Um, in the last episode, I mentioned some

00:48:13.289 --> 00:48:15.150
things about some dialogue that I thought was

00:48:15.150 --> 00:48:17.369
paying homage to the fact that there's a lot

00:48:17.369 --> 00:48:19.250
of cheesy stuff in the information series, but

00:48:19.250 --> 00:48:21.829
they didn't go so far to make fun of it. Um,

00:48:22.110 --> 00:48:24.389
one of those things was Mike, you'll appreciate

00:48:24.389 --> 00:48:26.030
a couple of these probably, but at one point

00:48:26.030 --> 00:48:28.190
they talk about, uh, carrying a skeletor around

00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:31.469
in her closet. Instead of a skeleton in the closets.

00:48:31.929 --> 00:48:34.710
That was funny. With Triclops, there was a line

00:48:34.710 --> 00:48:38.130
that said, pity we don't see eye to eye. That's

00:48:38.130 --> 00:48:42.929
great. I also thought a couple more Kevin Smith

00:48:42.929 --> 00:48:46.670
-like lines. They find a way to say Three Marlenas,

00:48:46.670 --> 00:48:50.610
like the song Three Marlenas in the beginning,

00:48:50.789 --> 00:48:52.789
because that's the Queen's name. That was funny.

00:48:52.909 --> 00:48:54.750
The most Kevin Smith line in the whole thing,

00:48:54.750 --> 00:48:56.090
though, and I'm glad there wasn't more of this.

00:48:56.750 --> 00:48:58.750
At one point, they literally say, no glove, no

00:48:58.750 --> 00:49:04.710
love. I was like, are you really throwing sex

00:49:04.710 --> 00:49:11.889
jokes in here? This is why I'm glad certain showrunners

00:49:11.889 --> 00:49:15.829
are only just showrunner in name, producer in

00:49:15.829 --> 00:49:17.869
name. I don't know if he wrote that line. He

00:49:17.869 --> 00:49:21.349
might not. I don't know. And again, as I mentioned

00:49:21.349 --> 00:49:22.909
last episode, and I think I mentioned earlier

00:49:22.909 --> 00:49:26.289
in this episode, That was my fear going in with

00:49:26.289 --> 00:49:30.250
Kevin Smith attached. Kevin Smith, like me and

00:49:30.250 --> 00:49:31.909
like a lot of other people, when they want to

00:49:31.909 --> 00:49:34.329
do projects or when they are asked to do projects,

00:49:34.510 --> 00:49:36.869
they want to make it their vision. They want

00:49:36.869 --> 00:49:43.989
to make it their style. And I'm so glad. So glad

00:49:43.989 --> 00:49:48.630
that they did not turn Tila and Adam into Veronica

00:49:48.630 --> 00:49:55.500
and Dante. I'm 37? I'm so glad that was not a

00:49:55.500 --> 00:49:57.559
thing. They did get the no glove, no love line

00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:00.000
in there, though. Three last things I like before

00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.039
I get into the nitpicks. Number one, I thought

00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:04.420
great display of Skeletor and Evelyn's magic.

00:50:05.340 --> 00:50:07.519
I thought they did a better job than they have

00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:09.340
in the past of really showing what their powers

00:50:09.340 --> 00:50:11.119
are and kind of what their abilities are. I thought

00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:13.840
that was cool. I thought it was clever that never

00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:16.019
have we ever asked ourselves what would happen

00:50:16.019 --> 00:50:19.320
if He -Man, while in He -Man form, held up the

00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:22.940
sword and said the magic words. Like, how did

00:50:22.940 --> 00:50:24.599
that never cross any of our minds? Like, what

00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:26.099
happens if he does it when he's already He -Man?

00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:28.519
So I thought it was cool that they addressed

00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.360
that. And then what we were kind of alluding

00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:34.420
to earlier, Mike, the Teela still gets that close

00:50:34.420 --> 00:50:37.420
to learning who her mother is and gets interrupted.

00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.480
Like I said, I love the path that... They are

00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:44.400
taking her down. I love the way that they are

00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:47.659
telling the story with her by taking everything

00:50:47.659 --> 00:50:50.260
over the last 40 years that has been done with

00:50:50.260 --> 00:50:54.840
her and combining it in interesting ways. And

00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:58.820
I'll say one thing about the split of five episodes

00:50:58.820 --> 00:51:02.420
and five episodes. You get just enough with Tila

00:51:02.420 --> 00:51:08.599
here, enough mystery with it between her and

00:51:09.289 --> 00:51:11.690
Man -at -Arms and Sorceress and all of that and

00:51:11.690 --> 00:51:13.670
everything else, whereas I'm hoping in the next

00:51:13.670 --> 00:51:17.750
one we see more of that and more of that revelation

00:51:17.750 --> 00:51:21.530
kind of thing, no pun intended. Yeah, no, it

00:51:21.530 --> 00:51:24.769
was done very well. And it also is a way that

00:51:24.769 --> 00:51:27.269
you know that there's fans involved or somebody

00:51:27.269 --> 00:51:28.769
that really likes the series involved somewhere

00:51:28.769 --> 00:51:31.900
because they're picking up things. that were

00:51:31.900 --> 00:51:33.900
never finished in the original series, or that

00:51:33.900 --> 00:51:36.340
didn't get to be resolved, and they're addressing

00:51:36.340 --> 00:51:39.559
those things. So we never got to see that storyline

00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:41.880
finished, so it's unfinished business, and I'm

00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.820
glad they're addressing it. Some quick nitpicks.

00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:48.219
You were the first champion? No wonder they called

00:51:48.219 --> 00:51:50.920
the place Castle Grayskull. When the elders first

00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.199
cast the illusion to hide the Hall of Wisdom,

00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:56.119
they named it Castle Grayskull, to honor them.

00:51:56.579 --> 00:51:59.570
But if you've ever seen the castle... You know

00:51:59.570 --> 00:52:02.269
it's a dubious honor at best. Somehow Skeletor

00:52:02.269 --> 00:52:05.130
learned about Greyskull all of a sudden. Like,

00:52:05.130 --> 00:52:07.289
they don't set that up as well, very well at

00:52:07.289 --> 00:52:09.150
all. Like, he's there, and he's like, I know

00:52:09.150 --> 00:52:11.730
that this is just a facade, and I'm gonna stab

00:52:11.730 --> 00:52:15.210
my thing and show the true vision. Like, we saw

00:52:15.210 --> 00:52:17.769
40 years worth of him not knowing that, so for

00:52:17.769 --> 00:52:19.349
him to just know that immediately was weird.

00:52:20.150 --> 00:52:23.789
There was, like, horde bots. I don't know why,

00:52:24.090 --> 00:52:27.389
because Hordak's not here. And when did Skeletor

00:52:27.389 --> 00:52:31.239
get foot soldiers? That was literally like the

00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:33.119
turtle's foot soldiers. All of a sudden he has

00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.760
this army of weird things that really never existed

00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:40.460
in the original. Was there a Wolfgate in the

00:52:40.460 --> 00:52:45.360
original, Mike? Not to my knowledge. Oh, I forgot

00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:46.780
to mention, at one point I thought Trapjaw died,

00:52:46.980 --> 00:52:51.179
but then he shows up later. Also, Andra should

00:52:51.179 --> 00:52:54.340
not know Roboto's abilities. Because at one point

00:52:54.340 --> 00:52:56.119
she's like, activate your advanced talent...

00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:59.570
I can't say that word all of a sudden. Telemetry?

00:52:59.570 --> 00:53:04.489
Whatever. Telemetry. She's like, activate that.

00:53:04.550 --> 00:53:06.730
How do you know he has that power? You just met

00:53:06.730 --> 00:53:10.190
him a day ago. I don't remember the Thundercats

00:53:10.190 --> 00:53:13.429
lair being in He -Man, but it showed up here.

00:53:13.829 --> 00:53:17.030
And the last thing was Man -at -Arms' gun there

00:53:17.030 --> 00:53:20.170
at the end. He literally moves it from left to

00:53:20.170 --> 00:53:24.690
right and somehow destroys 20 vehicles. What?

00:53:25.550 --> 00:53:27.409
That was a little far -fetched. I don't know

00:53:27.409 --> 00:53:28.929
what kind of gun he had, but he just took out

00:53:28.929 --> 00:53:33.110
massive vehicles with it. That's not how lasers

00:53:33.110 --> 00:53:34.650
work. Although they worked underwater in this

00:53:34.650 --> 00:53:36.730
series, too. And it's funny, because they're

00:53:36.730 --> 00:53:38.210
like, the guy with the underwater lasers? I'm

00:53:38.210 --> 00:53:39.449
like, well, at least you addressed the fact that

00:53:39.449 --> 00:53:43.949
that was weird. The only reason, and I don't

00:53:43.949 --> 00:53:46.210
know what's going on with the toy line, I don't

00:53:46.210 --> 00:53:48.469
know if they're going to put Horde Troopers in

00:53:48.469 --> 00:53:54.449
either Origins or Revelations toy line or whatever.

00:53:55.340 --> 00:53:59.320
I do know that there is a horde trooper Funko

00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.280
pop, I believe, or it's coming or it's whatever.

00:54:02.420 --> 00:54:05.360
I think I've seen that. I can't find it here

00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:08.599
on the app right now, but I don't know what,

00:54:08.619 --> 00:54:11.619
maybe it's just, again, it's, it's what I said

00:54:11.619 --> 00:54:13.840
earlier about them throwing the homages in, but

00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:16.039
not beating us over the head with a havoc staff

00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:19.639
with them. Like it's there. Maybe we can, like

00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:21.920
if they get a second season, if they get another

00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:26.820
10 episode pickup, Maybe they'll, since it's

00:54:26.820 --> 00:54:29.159
all about story and character and tying back

00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:31.980
into the last 40 years, maybe they'll bring in

00:54:31.980 --> 00:54:34.619
She -Ra and the Horde and Hordak and all of this.

00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:38.159
Okay, so really quickly, this is just speculation

00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:42.900
on all of our parts. Who do you guys think could

00:54:42.900 --> 00:54:46.739
voice Hordak well in comparison to Mark Hamill

00:54:46.739 --> 00:54:49.559
as Skeletor? Oof, I'd have to do some thinking

00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:53.820
on that. That's a hard one. I will tell you,

00:54:53.820 --> 00:54:57.079
though, that if they could somehow bring Hordak,

00:54:57.139 --> 00:54:58.440
if they could somehow bring She -Ra, there's

00:54:58.440 --> 00:54:59.800
lots of characters they haven't touched, obviously.

00:54:59.860 --> 00:55:02.519
If I had a wish list, the three characters I

00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:04.920
would want to see are Hordak, She -Ra, and Zodak.

00:55:06.019 --> 00:55:09.980
I was surprised Zodak wasn't in this one, because

00:55:09.980 --> 00:55:12.719
he's right up the alley. Whenever they talk about

00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:14.900
the council and whatever they're talking about,

00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.300
the sorceress, Zodak's usually there, and he's

00:55:17.300 --> 00:55:19.460
such a powerful character that I was surprised

00:55:19.460 --> 00:55:20.880
he wasn't there. I was also a little surprised

00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.469
they didn't work Stratos into this. But it just

00:55:23.469 --> 00:55:25.510
leaves other things to show up here in the second

00:55:25.510 --> 00:55:27.690
part, so I'm hoping that we get some cool other

00:55:27.690 --> 00:55:29.510
characters that show up. But I'd have to get

00:55:29.510 --> 00:55:31.449
back to you on the voice work. That'd be an interesting

00:55:31.449 --> 00:55:34.429
one. Any other questions or wish lists or what

00:55:34.429 --> 00:55:35.690
you're looking forward to with the second part

00:55:35.690 --> 00:55:37.789
before we get out of here as the rest of the

00:55:37.789 --> 00:55:40.409
internet freaks out that they killed my He -Man

00:55:40.409 --> 00:55:42.489
and it's Teela now in the Masters of the Universe?

00:55:43.489 --> 00:55:49.630
Nope. Mike? No, I think I'm good. I thoroughly

00:55:49.630 --> 00:55:54.510
enjoyed this. Yes. I think that people who are

00:55:54.510 --> 00:56:00.309
like us, and like I said, the fact that Kevin

00:56:00.309 --> 00:56:02.210
Smith is the showrunner, other than the fact

00:56:02.210 --> 00:56:05.170
of what he did to hype it up, that's my problem,

00:56:05.230 --> 00:56:07.590
is how it was hyped up. The fact that he's the

00:56:07.590 --> 00:56:09.730
showrunner, and like I already said, thank God

00:56:09.730 --> 00:56:12.070
they didn't have him on full writing, because

00:56:12.070 --> 00:56:16.730
whatever. When I was watching this, I felt like

00:56:16.730 --> 00:56:22.179
this was 1983. in 2023, even though it's not

00:56:22.179 --> 00:56:25.760
40 years yet for the cartoon, but it just felt

00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:31.099
like this is what if filmmation was still around

00:56:31.099 --> 00:56:35.079
today, like today's capabilities, say, say powerhouse

00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:39.300
is the new filmmation kind of thing. Like this

00:56:39.300 --> 00:56:43.719
is what we've been wanting for 40 fucking years.

00:56:44.300 --> 00:56:48.210
And I love it. I think it's great. Yeah, I'm

00:56:48.210 --> 00:56:50.050
a big fan. I know people are freaking out because

00:56:50.050 --> 00:56:52.289
of everything they did, and those people should

00:56:52.289 --> 00:56:55.329
go hide in caves. No, those people should watch

00:56:55.329 --> 00:56:57.590
it and learn what actually happens. That's what

00:56:57.590 --> 00:56:59.650
they should do. It's good. If you give it a chance,

00:56:59.710 --> 00:57:01.010
I think it's good, and I can't wait to see what

00:57:01.010 --> 00:57:03.690
they do with it in the second part. Absolutely.

00:57:03.949 --> 00:57:06.610
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00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:52.739
of Grayskull content. I have no idea what the

00:57:52.739 --> 00:57:55.059
hell we're doing next. For now, I am... Whenever

00:57:55.059 --> 00:57:59.880
that's released, I mean, could be October 28th,

00:57:59.880 --> 00:58:03.320
could be November 27th, who knows. For now, I

00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:08.420
am TF2 and Mike with... Optimus Solo. Steve Megatron.

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By the power and for the honor of Grayskull,

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we have the power.