WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.339 Hi, this is Kevin Conroy, and you're listening 00:00:02.339 --> 00:00:05.280 to the Geekcast Radio Network. This is Man at 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:07.740 Arms, and you are listening to the Masters of 00:00:07.740 --> 00:00:14.039 Greyskull. We want to believe in an ordered universe. 00:00:14.900 --> 00:00:18.260 Some grand architecture holding it all together. 00:00:19.100 --> 00:00:25.000 But alas, after all these years, I finally know 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:30.079 the real secret of Greyskull. There is only power. 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:39.340 And now, I have the power. This is a new era. 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:45.060 As the new sorceress, the bumbling idiocies of 00:00:45.060 --> 00:00:48.759 the past will no longer be tolerated. The only 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:51.799 way we can stop this sorceress is with another 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:57.810 sorceress. If we want to live... We're going 00:00:57.810 --> 00:01:00.369 to have to fight. If I can tap into the power, 00:01:00.549 --> 00:01:06.030 I can stop her. Soon, all of Eternia will remember 00:01:06.030 --> 00:01:10.510 this historic moment when Skeletor finally kills 00:01:10.510 --> 00:01:19.049 He -Man! What are we laughing at? See, the sword 00:01:19.049 --> 00:01:23.069 is just the conduit. But the spark? That was 00:01:23.069 --> 00:01:37.750 always me. By the power of Greyskull! The power 00:01:37.750 --> 00:01:43.030 is mine alone. Why did it answer his call? Citizens 00:01:43.030 --> 00:01:46.010 of Eternia, we're in dire need of your help. 00:01:46.909 --> 00:01:51.390 There is nothing to live for. Many chaos. And 00:01:51.390 --> 00:01:59.689 to chaos... Will we all return? Thank you for 00:01:59.689 --> 00:02:02.489 being my daughter. Now you need to be something 00:02:02.489 --> 00:02:07.969 greater. Look at the sky. All hope is gone. Everything 00:02:07.969 --> 00:02:13.409 will end. Find safe positions. There are no safe 00:02:13.409 --> 00:02:41.750 positions. Oh, there's one. Behind me. You guys 00:02:41.750 --> 00:02:46.870 are in trouble now. Hello, this is Optimus Solo, 00:02:46.990 --> 00:02:49.669 and welcome to the 127th chapter in our Powers 00:02:49.669 --> 00:02:51.550 of Greyskull series. With me for this journey 00:02:51.550 --> 00:02:53.610 into the Masters of the Universe franchise, as 00:02:53.610 --> 00:02:57.310 always, is TFG1 Mike. Hello. Hello. And once 00:02:57.310 --> 00:02:59.150 again, our special guest, crossing over from 00:02:59.150 --> 00:03:02.250 the realm of the Transformers, Steve Megatron. 00:03:02.270 --> 00:03:07.770 Hello. Hello. We are here to talk more Revelation. 00:03:07.870 --> 00:03:11.280 So is everyone ready for part two? Masters of 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:14.520 the Universe, Revelation, Mike. Yes, yes we are. 00:03:14.699 --> 00:03:19.060 And honestly, the date that I've kept seeing 00:03:19.060 --> 00:03:22.379 online wasn't that far off. It was just a month 00:03:22.379 --> 00:03:26.900 and a few days short. Yeah, it just kind of came 00:03:26.900 --> 00:03:28.120 out of nowhere. Like, hey, it's going to be ready 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:32.159 November 23rd. Happy birthday to you. Yeah, and 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:34.479 then obviously we got the early access, which 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.740 is awesome. So thanks to Netflix, et cetera, 00:03:37.819 --> 00:03:41.979 for doing that and for Steve for making all that 00:03:41.979 --> 00:03:45.419 happen. Absolutely. And this episode will be 00:03:45.419 --> 00:03:55.659 a non -spoiler part. You're not a champion. Just 00:03:55.659 --> 00:03:58.879 his cheerleader. And then you'll have to wait 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:00.419 for the other half of the episode when we get 00:04:00.419 --> 00:04:02.460 into spoilers. So kind of picture them both as 00:04:02.460 --> 00:04:04.259 one full episode. So it'll kind of be like two 00:04:04.259 --> 00:04:07.219 short parts. So, Mike, any business you want 00:04:07.219 --> 00:04:09.419 to take care of before we get into this? I just 00:04:09.419 --> 00:04:13.120 don't like the double embargo thing. I wanted 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:16.680 this episode, like the episodes we did before 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:19.439 for part one and these episodes that we're doing 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:23.199 now, I wanted it to be one whole thing where 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:27.160 at one point in the episode I could put Skeletor 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:31.220 saying, oh, by the way, here is the spoiler warning 00:04:31.220 --> 00:04:36.649 or whatever kind of thing. It's a whole thing, 00:04:36.709 --> 00:04:40.230 folks, but whatever, yeah. I'm just pleased and 00:04:40.230 --> 00:04:42.509 happy that we got to watch it early and that 00:04:42.509 --> 00:04:44.670 we get to kind of start digesting thoughts as 00:04:44.670 --> 00:04:47.829 everybody else has to wait. I know. And we can 00:04:47.829 --> 00:04:49.470 watch them freak out on the Internet, although 00:04:49.470 --> 00:04:50.850 I don't think there's going to be as much freaking 00:04:50.850 --> 00:04:54.750 out this time as there was the first time. People 00:04:54.750 --> 00:04:56.629 have already decided one way or the other how 00:04:56.629 --> 00:04:57.790 they feel and if they're going to watch it or 00:04:57.790 --> 00:05:00.389 not. Yeah, you know why there's not going to 00:05:00.389 --> 00:05:02.949 be a lot of freak out this time? Why is that? 00:05:03.290 --> 00:05:06.009 Because Mr. 37 kept his mouth shut and didn't 00:05:06.009 --> 00:05:11.310 swallow any dick on the way down. Houston, we 00:05:11.310 --> 00:05:17.410 have a problem. Well then, alrighty. I'm just 00:05:17.410 --> 00:05:20.470 saying, the dude opened his, he would not shut 00:05:20.470 --> 00:05:24.129 up in the promotion of part one. Well, I think, 00:05:24.449 --> 00:05:27.779 that aside. Yeah, you know, say what you will 00:05:27.779 --> 00:05:30.319 for Kevin Smith. That aside, this second half, 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:33.459 I feel like for fans is going to be less jarring 00:05:33.459 --> 00:05:36.459 than that first half. If you're not if you're 00:05:36.459 --> 00:05:38.139 not a huge fan of what they did in the first 00:05:38.139 --> 00:05:40.420 half, I feel like you're going to enjoy this 00:05:40.420 --> 00:05:43.300 second half a lot more in a lot of ways. Yeah, 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:48.079 I think the one thing I kind of am disappointed 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:51.920 at is that, first off, some people were mad at 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:53.850 the first part without even seeing it. Some people 00:05:53.850 --> 00:05:55.209 are going to be mad about the second part without 00:05:55.209 --> 00:05:57.370 ever seeing it. They have already made up their 00:05:57.370 --> 00:05:58.930 mind that it's just something and that's how 00:05:58.930 --> 00:06:00.449 people are on the Internet. They're stupid. So 00:06:00.449 --> 00:06:03.350 regardless, like take that section out. But the 00:06:03.350 --> 00:06:05.629 people that actually watched the first part and 00:06:05.629 --> 00:06:10.529 were some of them were justifiably concerned 00:06:10.529 --> 00:06:12.430 about certain things or irritated about certain 00:06:12.430 --> 00:06:13.930 things. That's fine. Like you can you don't have 00:06:13.930 --> 00:06:15.449 to like everything. You can like some parts, 00:06:15.550 --> 00:06:17.509 dislike some parts, whatever. And then there 00:06:17.509 --> 00:06:19.410 were some people that were just like bashed and 00:06:19.410 --> 00:06:21.269 saying didn't like it for ridiculous reasons 00:06:21.269 --> 00:06:24.810 and whatever. But I think my problem is going 00:06:24.810 --> 00:06:27.230 to be is people are going to react as if Kevin 00:06:27.230 --> 00:06:30.029 Smith and the powers that be that are behind 00:06:30.029 --> 00:06:33.069 this series saw the fan reaction and then went 00:06:33.069 --> 00:06:35.370 back and rewrote the whole second part and bent 00:06:35.370 --> 00:06:37.870 the knee to the fans and changed everything. 00:06:38.250 --> 00:06:40.110 And I don't think that's the case. I think this 00:06:40.110 --> 00:06:42.629 is how it was going to be the whole time. And 00:06:42.629 --> 00:06:44.670 people were just freaking out early for no reason, 00:06:44.730 --> 00:06:46.689 not realizing that there's a whole second part 00:06:46.689 --> 00:06:48.230 to this story, third part, fourth part, whatever, 00:06:48.350 --> 00:06:51.850 however many parts we get. some of it they just 00:06:51.850 --> 00:06:54.410 were being impatient about so like you kind of 00:06:54.410 --> 00:06:56.009 got to judge it as a whole and that's the problem 00:06:56.009 --> 00:06:58.670 when you release part here part there part later 00:06:58.670 --> 00:07:00.449 is that some people are going to freak out without 00:07:00.449 --> 00:07:02.250 hearing the whole story and i think if they had 00:07:02.250 --> 00:07:05.209 had all of this at once they probably would not 00:07:05.209 --> 00:07:08.350 have freaked out as much exactly like everyone 00:07:08.350 --> 00:07:12.370 said last time like we said last time five episodes 00:07:12.370 --> 00:07:17.709 is not it's like getting upset at the pilot episode 00:07:17.709 --> 00:07:21.860 of some other show yeah like Again, if Netflix 00:07:21.860 --> 00:07:26.079 had released this as a – it is a 10 -episode 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.819 season one. That's what it is. As you just said, 00:07:29.899 --> 00:07:33.959 if they had released all of this at once and 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:39.620 didn't do all this hullabaloo promotion and blah, 00:07:39.660 --> 00:07:43.220 blah, blah, blah, blah, and oh my god, the Masters 00:07:43.220 --> 00:07:45.319 rights are all over the place. Universal has 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:47.720 this. Mattel has – that was the other thing. 00:07:47.819 --> 00:07:51.199 People didn't understand. where this was coming 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:54.819 from. People thought, because of what Kevin Smith 00:07:54.819 --> 00:07:58.000 had said several times, that this was going to 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:02.240 be a direct continuation of Filmation. Kind of 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:05.899 is and mostly isn't. It has nods to it, but it's 00:08:05.899 --> 00:08:09.519 using the toy parts of what Mattel Television 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.800 has the rights to in order to tell the story. 00:08:14.250 --> 00:08:15.889 Yeah, I think Kevin Smith, the interviews he 00:08:15.889 --> 00:08:17.850 did after this came out, after the first part 00:08:17.850 --> 00:08:19.410 came out, were much better than probably the 00:08:19.410 --> 00:08:20.850 interviews he did beforehand. Because he did 00:08:20.850 --> 00:08:22.449 put some of the fans in their place afterwards 00:08:22.449 --> 00:08:24.310 and outlined stuff and this, that, and the other. 00:08:24.410 --> 00:08:27.509 And he also mentioned that the 2002 Mike Young 00:08:27.509 --> 00:08:29.209 series, they couldn't touch, they couldn't go 00:08:29.209 --> 00:08:31.110 into any of that because of copyright issues. 00:08:31.329 --> 00:08:33.970 So they had to steer clear of certain storylines, 00:08:34.009 --> 00:08:36.789 etc. But I did like that he put some of the people 00:08:36.789 --> 00:08:39.730 in the place. And like they've all said. This 00:08:39.730 --> 00:08:41.309 whole thing has been called Masters of the Universe. 00:08:41.490 --> 00:08:43.490 It's not called He -Man. It's not called Teela. 00:08:43.629 --> 00:08:45.309 It's not called any of those. It's about the 00:08:45.309 --> 00:08:48.009 whole universe, and I think that's kind of what 00:08:48.009 --> 00:08:51.289 we got. But I'm just interested on surface value, 00:08:51.429 --> 00:08:53.789 guys, just without getting into any details, 00:08:53.850 --> 00:08:55.289 and obviously there will be no spoilers in this 00:08:55.289 --> 00:08:58.330 section, but what was your overall first reaction 00:08:58.330 --> 00:09:04.850 to Part 2, Mike? I watched it, and I don't know 00:09:04.850 --> 00:09:09.370 if I'm now used to what Hasbro is doing. with 00:09:09.370 --> 00:09:15.529 six -part breakups, because by the end of the 00:09:15.529 --> 00:09:20.590 fourth episode, I was like, or the ninth episode, 00:09:20.669 --> 00:09:23.730 whatever you want to call it, I was like, wait, 00:09:23.909 --> 00:09:25.929 there's only one more? I thought there was two 00:09:25.929 --> 00:09:27.870 more after. Like, literally, seriously, when 00:09:27.870 --> 00:09:29.809 I got to episode five, I'm like, wait, that's 00:09:29.809 --> 00:09:32.889 it? Not in a bad way, not in a way of, like, 00:09:32.950 --> 00:09:35.649 how I normally say about Star Wars, where it's 00:09:35.649 --> 00:09:38.200 like... They get medals at the end, and then 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:41.960 that's it. There's no, like, climactic ending. 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:44.399 It's just, hey, here's your trophy for blowing 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:50.100 up the Death Star. Like, I didn't feel like that, 00:09:50.340 --> 00:09:54.820 but I felt like, but there should be more. What's 00:09:54.820 --> 00:09:56.440 going on here? I thought there was two more. 00:09:56.539 --> 00:09:58.960 I don't know, whatever, anyway. But no, the first 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:04.379 watch through I did, I enjoyed it. There are 00:10:04.379 --> 00:10:08.070 plenty of things. that are non -spoiler that 00:10:08.070 --> 00:10:10.590 we can talk about here that I did not enjoy this 00:10:10.590 --> 00:10:13.330 time around. I'd be interested to hear those. 00:10:14.269 --> 00:10:17.029 Before we get to that, though, Steve, what was 00:10:17.029 --> 00:10:19.509 your first takeaway instinct, reaction after 00:10:19.509 --> 00:10:23.509 you watched it? Well, for me, honestly, I grew 00:10:23.509 --> 00:10:26.809 up with Masters of the Universe. I grew up with 00:10:26.809 --> 00:10:31.710 the old He -Man. Not a huge fan of it as a kid, 00:10:31.710 --> 00:10:36.299 just because I was late in the game. In this 00:10:36.299 --> 00:10:43.419 program itself, adding this portion to part one 00:10:43.419 --> 00:10:48.159 not only builds upon itself and adds to the richer 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.539 dynamic that they've got going with the storyline, 00:10:50.740 --> 00:10:55.379 but it resonated a lot better with me on the 00:10:55.379 --> 00:10:58.460 second half. And I feel like we'd mentioned previously 00:10:58.460 --> 00:11:00.600 that had the whole thing come out at once, I 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:03.759 feel like the attitude would have been so much 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.720 better. uh, on the reception of this, this program. 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:10.740 And I, I, I found myself really enjoying it. 00:11:10.779 --> 00:11:14.299 I, I actually, uh, watched the first few and 00:11:14.299 --> 00:11:17.220 then I blitzed through the rest of it, uh, within, 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:21.440 uh, another part of an evening. And, uh, it, 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:27.620 I really enjoyed it. Um, and, and the direction 00:11:27.620 --> 00:11:30.110 that they kind of went with it. Yeah, I also 00:11:30.110 --> 00:11:32.269 kind of blitzed it. I watched all five back to 00:11:32.269 --> 00:11:34.549 back, which I wasn't planning on doing. But I 00:11:34.549 --> 00:11:36.850 started early enough in the evening that it wasn't 00:11:36.850 --> 00:11:39.029 super late by the time I was getting towards 00:11:39.029 --> 00:11:40.789 episode four and five. And I'm like, I just have 00:11:40.789 --> 00:11:42.549 to finish it tonight, like whatever. I wouldn't 00:11:42.549 --> 00:11:45.230 normally do that, but I did. Let's start with 00:11:45.230 --> 00:11:46.690 some of the stuff that we liked that we could 00:11:46.690 --> 00:11:50.570 talk about in non -spoiler aspects. So I'm just 00:11:50.570 --> 00:11:52.470 going to start real quick at the beginning. I 00:11:52.470 --> 00:11:55.549 still love the intro. I love the intro that they 00:11:55.549 --> 00:11:57.230 kept with those visuals. I was kind of hoping 00:11:57.230 --> 00:11:59.210 to see maybe a few additional visuals that we 00:11:59.210 --> 00:12:02.210 didn't get, but I do like the look of the intro. 00:12:02.289 --> 00:12:05.350 I still wish there was an actual theme song with 00:12:05.350 --> 00:12:08.490 lyrics. Okay, there isn't a theme song with lyrics, 00:12:08.570 --> 00:12:12.950 but as I said, along with Tune Master Tim and 00:12:12.950 --> 00:12:17.269 126 .5 of this podcast, there is a theme song 00:12:17.269 --> 00:12:20.549 and there are overall instrumental themes. I'm 00:12:20.549 --> 00:12:25.100 actually glad they didn't go with... you know, 00:12:25.179 --> 00:12:28.399 I am Adam and I am this and I am that and by 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:30.700 the power of blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I didn't 00:12:30.700 --> 00:12:32.639 need any talking or anything. No, just some kind 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:35.480 of an instrumental. Yeah, just something that 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:36.820 would have been a little bit more of a hook. 00:12:36.820 --> 00:12:38.019 I know they're going for a little bit more of 00:12:38.019 --> 00:12:39.480 a mature thing and maybe they felt like that 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.559 would make it a little bit too young aimed with 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:44.240 the theme song, but I kind of wish there was 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:48.330 one. But that's just the intro. It's not going 00:12:48.330 --> 00:12:50.649 to make or break anything, obviously. But I do 00:12:50.649 --> 00:12:53.070 still love those images that they use at the 00:12:53.070 --> 00:12:54.950 beginning. Going into some of the characters 00:12:54.950 --> 00:12:56.769 real quick that we already know are going to 00:12:56.769 --> 00:12:58.909 be in this. We'll keep out any new characters 00:12:58.909 --> 00:13:01.570 if there were any for the spoiler part. And now, 00:13:01.850 --> 00:13:08.950 I have the power. Soon, all of Eternia will remember 00:13:08.950 --> 00:13:14.190 this historic moment when Skeletor finally kills! 00:13:18.339 --> 00:13:20.700 But going into characters that we already knew 00:13:20.700 --> 00:13:22.659 from the first one, or at least we saw at the 00:13:22.659 --> 00:13:25.740 end of the first one, let's just start with Skelligod, 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:29.500 because we obviously see him at the end of part 00:13:29.500 --> 00:13:31.980 one. So it's no spoiler that that's going to 00:13:31.980 --> 00:13:33.340 be something they start off with right away. 00:13:34.779 --> 00:13:36.879 I just get interested in getting your guys' opinions. 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:38.899 We know who Skeletor is. We've seen him in various 00:13:38.899 --> 00:13:40.799 incarnations over the different series and stuff 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:42.340 like that. And, you know, people like him, people 00:13:42.340 --> 00:13:44.220 love him, whatever the case may be, different 00:13:44.220 --> 00:13:47.120 voices for him, et cetera. I don't know what 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:49.240 your guys' take was the Skele -God version, which 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:51.899 is Skeletor with the power of Castle Greyskull 00:13:51.899 --> 00:13:55.720 basically at his behest. The only thing that 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:58.940 kind of I wrote down here for him is I thought 00:13:58.940 --> 00:14:01.919 it was an interesting design that they have basically 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.610 like little faces all over him. like he has like 00:14:05.610 --> 00:14:08.669 a jaw or a face like for elbows for knees for 00:14:08.669 --> 00:14:12.070 his crotch like i i couldn't stop looking at 00:14:12.070 --> 00:14:13.350 all the different parts of him being like why 00:14:13.350 --> 00:14:16.590 is that a face why is that a mouth why but uh 00:14:16.590 --> 00:14:18.710 and then he has an h on his chest almost like 00:14:18.710 --> 00:14:21.809 a he -man or like a board or something like that 00:14:21.809 --> 00:14:23.350 but he has an h which was interesting choice 00:14:23.350 --> 00:14:25.590 for his chest uh mike what did you think of scala 00:14:25.590 --> 00:14:29.980 got as a character well as a character He's all 00:14:29.980 --> 00:14:32.860 right. We obviously already knew about the H 00:14:32.860 --> 00:14:34.899 on his chest because that's what the toy had. 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.759 And I get it. By the power of Greyskull, I have 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:42.840 the power, blah, blah, blah. I'm glad there wasn't 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:46.500 an S on his chest. Maybe it could have been better 00:14:46.500 --> 00:14:49.659 done with just like his traditional, like an 00:14:49.659 --> 00:14:54.179 upgraded version of his skull and bones thing 00:14:54.179 --> 00:14:56.299 that he normally has. But, yeah, that was a little 00:14:56.299 --> 00:15:02.059 weird. The design of him didn't really, I don't 00:15:02.059 --> 00:15:05.080 know, I didn't really, I noticed it, and I noticed 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:08.159 it more when he was fighting, but it was one 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:10.600 of those things where, okay, that's the design. 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:14.299 Right. I've never been a big fan of, like, the 00:15:14.299 --> 00:15:16.769 power -up. versions of characters whether it 00:15:16.769 --> 00:15:20.029 be in any cartoon um yeah when they all of a 00:15:20.029 --> 00:15:21.669 sudden become like that character on steroids 00:15:21.669 --> 00:15:23.549 or whatever i've never been a huge fan of it 00:15:23.549 --> 00:15:25.789 so i found myself wanting him to like wanting 00:15:25.789 --> 00:15:27.149 it quickly to get to the point where he was going 00:15:27.149 --> 00:15:30.009 to go back to being just normal skeletor but 00:15:30.009 --> 00:15:32.429 i have nothing against him i just i just don't 00:15:32.429 --> 00:15:35.450 like that characters in general i'm not sure 00:15:35.450 --> 00:15:37.509 i wanted that scene but that's a discussion for 00:15:37.509 --> 00:15:41.450 another episode uh steve what did you think you 00:15:41.450 --> 00:15:44.960 prefer skeletor or skele god Well, I prefer Skeletor, 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:49.279 but Skele -God wasn't too bad, actually, considering... 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:51.899 I mean, he could have gone New Adventures and 00:15:51.899 --> 00:15:56.720 looked like that. So Skele -God was far superior 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:03.600 in that right. I honestly didn't have any problems 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:05.340 with any of the other characters except for one, 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:06.860 which we'll get into here in a second. But of 00:16:06.860 --> 00:16:08.379 the characters that we had already seen in Part 00:16:08.379 --> 00:16:12.220 1, the basic group that we have, I thought they 00:16:12.220 --> 00:16:15.720 all... Stay fairly true to what we got outside 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:17.120 of some stuff that we'll talk about in spoilers 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:18.980 as far as a couple of the characters evolving 00:16:18.980 --> 00:16:22.080 into other things, which we'll get to. But as 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:24.639 far as the group that we already had from part 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:26.100 one, I just have to point out, and you guys know 00:16:26.100 --> 00:16:30.159 where I'm going with this, but Queen Marlena 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:34.919 is awful, awful, awful, awful. That is really 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:37.820 poorly voiced. I don't know what was happening 00:16:37.820 --> 00:16:39.700 with Alicia Silverstone. I don't know if she's 00:16:39.700 --> 00:16:41.840 just a bad voice actor or if she was being poorly 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.659 directed or what. But the voice she's using for 00:16:44.659 --> 00:16:47.019 Queen Marlena does not fit that character. No. 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.279 Not only does the voice not fit that character, 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:51.220 but the lines they're giving her to say do not 00:16:51.220 --> 00:16:53.779 fit that character. No. This is supposed to be 00:16:53.779 --> 00:16:55.700 the queen. So we have Queen Marlena and King 00:16:55.700 --> 00:16:58.620 Randor, who for all of time in the Masters of 00:16:58.620 --> 00:17:01.460 the Universe franchise have been the elders, 00:17:01.700 --> 00:17:06.480 the royalty, the... classiest characters that 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:08.079 you're going to come across, the most mature 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:09.380 characters that you're going to come across, 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:12.420 and they give Queen Marlena a line that says, 00:17:12.700 --> 00:17:17.180 quote, long story my butt. I had no words for 00:17:17.180 --> 00:17:19.259 how they depicted Queen Marlena except for that 00:17:19.259 --> 00:17:21.059 it was awful and I did not want to see any of 00:17:21.059 --> 00:17:26.819 her. I did not notice it as much in part one 00:17:26.819 --> 00:17:31.460 with Alicia's voice acting as Marlena. I did 00:17:31.460 --> 00:17:35.720 not notice it as much in part one. I think the 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:40.180 whole, you know, tell me a story, whatever, whatever 00:17:40.180 --> 00:17:44.019 line you just, like, I think we are meant to 00:17:44.019 --> 00:17:47.279 look at that scene as to say that she is really 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:50.980 close with her son and she likes joking around 00:17:50.980 --> 00:17:53.640 with him. She already knew the secret, so she 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:56.500 wasn't hiding anything from her, yada, yada, 00:17:56.500 --> 00:17:59.859 yada. Where I get tripped up is the point where 00:17:59.859 --> 00:18:05.019 Silverstone. is doing the Marlena voice, and 00:18:05.019 --> 00:18:09.440 then she breaks into Cher from Clueless. Not 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:12.359 just because she says, as if, and she does say 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:16.160 that. Teela should be inside by now. If Adam 00:18:16.160 --> 00:18:18.900 was able to keep Evelyn busy, our new sorceress 00:18:18.900 --> 00:18:22.019 might just give us a fighting chance. If not, 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:26.339 Eternia may have seen her last sunrise. As if. 00:18:26.579 --> 00:18:29.099 I will put it right here, but she does say that. 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:33.859 And it's one of the things where it's like, are 00:18:33.859 --> 00:18:36.660 you doing the character voice? Or are you talking 00:18:36.660 --> 00:18:40.720 as a voice from X number of 20 -something years? 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:45.059 Like, seriously, this time around, I heard more 00:18:45.059 --> 00:18:48.099 of Alicia Silverstone's actual voice. And I used 00:18:48.099 --> 00:18:52.420 to, as a teenager, I used to love this girl. 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:55.460 But it's like one of those things where it's 00:18:55.460 --> 00:19:00.730 like, I... Don't want to hear your voice as a 00:19:00.730 --> 00:19:04.190 character that I've known my entire life because 00:19:04.190 --> 00:19:07.009 you're not actually doing a voice for the character. 00:19:07.049 --> 00:19:11.269 You're just trying to, again, I don't know, again, 00:19:11.349 --> 00:19:14.690 like we've said in the Transformers ones, is 00:19:14.690 --> 00:19:18.529 it bad voice direction? Is it bad scripting? 00:19:18.529 --> 00:19:21.029 Is it this? I think it's just bad voice direction 00:19:21.029 --> 00:19:26.420 and bad voice casting. And it goes past just 00:19:26.420 --> 00:19:28.859 her using her voice, although that is bad. It's 00:19:28.859 --> 00:19:31.140 just like the whole characterization of the Queen 00:19:31.140 --> 00:19:34.200 is so juvenile, and it shouldn't be. It should 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:38.779 be the older, wiser. So I really was thrown off 00:19:38.779 --> 00:19:40.099 by the Queen. That was probably the character 00:19:40.099 --> 00:19:42.900 that most stood out in a negative way. I think 00:19:42.900 --> 00:19:47.619 if you had an older -sounding Queen Marlena voice 00:19:47.619 --> 00:19:51.089 actress. Yeah. She was delivering the same lines 00:19:51.089 --> 00:19:53.450 with a little bit of snark and a little bit of 00:19:53.450 --> 00:19:59.289 irritation. Something that sounds like an older 00:19:59.289 --> 00:20:03.190 woman that's like, you know, this is bull. You 00:20:03.190 --> 00:20:09.569 could believably see her complaining. That would 00:20:09.569 --> 00:20:11.970 work a little bit better. I think because they 00:20:11.970 --> 00:20:20.609 had her, they wrote her 90s lines. Into the script. 00:20:20.970 --> 00:20:26.269 I also think that we're not ever going to – I 00:20:26.269 --> 00:20:28.470 seriously doubt any of us had any issues with 00:20:28.470 --> 00:20:30.890 the animation overall. Oh, no. It was actually 00:20:30.890 --> 00:20:34.170 really good. Top notch, great. I want a Transformers 00:20:34.170 --> 00:20:36.670 series in this style of animation, whatever. 00:20:36.950 --> 00:20:41.250 But the thing of it is, is her character design, 00:20:41.490 --> 00:20:45.410 she looks like an old crow, but she sounds like 00:20:45.410 --> 00:20:47.329 a damn teenager. Right. It just didn't fit. It 00:20:47.329 --> 00:20:50.019 didn't fit at all. What they really needed to 00:20:50.019 --> 00:20:54.200 do is, like, you have Susan Eisenberg, who was 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:56.819 Wonder Woman in the Justice League cartoons from 00:20:56.819 --> 00:20:59.819 the DC animated universe. You have her as the 00:20:59.819 --> 00:21:03.339 sorceress. You needed Adrienne Barbeau, who was 00:21:03.339 --> 00:21:06.059 Catwoman in Batman the Animated Series. You need 00:21:06.059 --> 00:21:09.700 her as Marlena. Or just anybody that's older 00:21:09.700 --> 00:21:12.119 than Alicia Silverstone, I guess. I thought maybe 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:13.400 she'd be able to pull it off because she has 00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:16.200 gotten older since the 90s, but it still just 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:19.630 didn't work for me. And I think part of it, too, 00:21:19.730 --> 00:21:21.549 with some of those lines, I think Kevin Smith, 00:21:21.750 --> 00:21:24.529 I will defend him for a lot of things when it 00:21:24.529 --> 00:21:27.549 comes to this series. But one thing that I think 00:21:27.549 --> 00:21:31.470 he just cannot avoid is he can't help but throw 00:21:31.470 --> 00:21:35.589 as many nods and homages to other properties, 00:21:35.750 --> 00:21:38.309 other shows, other things from pop culture that 00:21:38.309 --> 00:21:41.730 he can possibly throw in there. And I like that. 00:21:42.220 --> 00:21:44.500 When it's done like little bits and subtlety 00:21:44.500 --> 00:21:46.279 and stuff like that. But when you put in a line 00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:47.819 that makes her sound like the character from 00:21:47.819 --> 00:21:49.539 Clueless and when you do a couple of the other 00:21:49.539 --> 00:21:51.119 things that we've seen him do so far in the series, 00:21:51.220 --> 00:21:52.900 they've only been a few that have really stood 00:21:52.900 --> 00:21:55.660 out like as jarring to me. But I just think he 00:21:55.660 --> 00:21:58.299 can't resist it. Like he has to put in those 00:21:58.299 --> 00:22:00.539 nods and he has to put in a little bit of the 00:22:00.539 --> 00:22:03.480 immature humor, which we got a little bit in 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:04.720 the first part. And we're going to get a little 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:05.859 bit in the second part. I'm not going to say 00:22:05.859 --> 00:22:09.109 what it is yet because it'll be a spoiler. So 00:22:09.109 --> 00:22:10.670 I think he just can't quite resist doing some 00:22:10.670 --> 00:22:12.549 of that stuff. And I'm assuming that's him because 00:22:12.549 --> 00:22:14.529 that's what he's kind of known for. I don't think 00:22:14.529 --> 00:22:15.910 that's one of the other writers or one of the 00:22:15.910 --> 00:22:18.150 other directors or, you know, people involved, 00:22:18.250 --> 00:22:21.329 etc. But going on through some other stuff that 00:22:21.329 --> 00:22:23.049 I just I did like, I'll change the positive. 00:22:23.170 --> 00:22:25.890 I love the facial expressions they give to Skeletor 00:22:25.890 --> 00:22:28.849 throughout all of this. I just think they did 00:22:28.849 --> 00:22:31.990 a really good job of kind of getting that humorous 00:22:31.990 --> 00:22:35.269 campiness of the 80s, but yet also having it 00:22:35.269 --> 00:22:38.069 somewhat of a. character you're going to take 00:22:38.069 --> 00:22:41.430 serious um but they do pick and choose times 00:22:41.430 --> 00:22:43.750 to give him kind of those funny facial expressions 00:22:43.750 --> 00:22:45.789 that we're used to so i really like that and 00:22:45.789 --> 00:22:48.210 you get some lines that accompany that where 00:22:48.210 --> 00:22:50.849 i believe um it might be evil lynn at one point 00:22:50.849 --> 00:22:53.450 says you know the bumbling idiocy or or somebody 00:22:53.450 --> 00:22:56.630 uses the phrase blithering boob um you know those 00:22:56.630 --> 00:22:58.809 are things straight out of the filmation version 00:22:58.809 --> 00:23:01.670 so yeah i'd like that any other character thoughts 00:23:01.670 --> 00:23:07.599 uh mike I didn't think it would ever happen. 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:11.839 I really, really didn't think I would ever be 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:17.119 on a podcast saying this. This is my single most 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:21.500 disliked performance Mark Hamill has ever done. 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.819 Really? Attend the tale of sorceress seen here 00:23:25.819 --> 00:23:29.500 in her darkest hour. Find the sword, the old 00:23:29.500 --> 00:23:33.259 crone cried. It's the source of my magical power. 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:37.180 She summoned three to Grayskull, a witch, a warrior, 00:23:37.339 --> 00:23:41.619 and war. With all hope lost, the champion dead, 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:47.400 she begged them, find the sword. I liked Skeletor 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:51.730 in part one. I didn't mind the Skele -God stuff. 00:23:52.509 --> 00:23:57.069 And I don't necessarily blame him, but there 00:23:57.069 --> 00:24:00.109 are some of the voice inflections that I do blame 00:24:00.109 --> 00:24:02.230 him in. I can say this because it's in the trailer, 00:24:02.369 --> 00:24:04.430 which played at the beginning of this podcast, 00:24:04.750 --> 00:24:09.549 when he and Adam are laughing, and then he's 00:24:09.549 --> 00:24:20.470 like, huh? What are we laughing about? What are 00:24:20.470 --> 00:24:23.890 we laughing at? See, the sword is just the conduit. 00:24:23.970 --> 00:24:28.309 But the spark? That was always me. And I've often 00:24:28.309 --> 00:24:31.650 wondered what kind of fabulous secret powers 00:24:31.650 --> 00:24:34.529 would be revealed to me if I didn't have the 00:24:34.529 --> 00:24:38.829 sword but still said the words. That just... 00:24:38.829 --> 00:24:46.390 It's... It's not even Joker. It's not even the 00:24:46.390 --> 00:24:49.259 fact that... His version of Skeletor is just 00:24:49.259 --> 00:24:52.299 like his. It isn't even that. It's just it was 00:24:52.299 --> 00:24:59.359 bad. I wasn't thrown off as much. I can see some 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:01.539 people saying that he's just doing his Joker 00:25:01.539 --> 00:25:04.039 or probably criticizing for some of that, but 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:06.640 I am not as familiar with his Joker, so maybe 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:10.079 that's why it didn't bother me. I think my problem 00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:15.220 with part two, with his vocal performance, is 00:25:15.220 --> 00:25:20.059 that... They're trying to do with him what they 00:25:20.059 --> 00:25:24.579 did with Jake Fushi as Optimus. Like, yes, Mark 00:25:24.579 --> 00:25:30.240 has obviously. Decades of talent over that kid, 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:34.559 but. The thing where Optimus would get angry 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:37.619 and he would start like, you know, he would go 00:25:37.619 --> 00:25:40.559 in that really horrible sounding voice. I feel 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:44.539 that Hamill's Skeletor, when he would get angry 00:25:44.539 --> 00:25:48.029 and then he would go back to the subtlety. Of 00:25:48.029 --> 00:25:52.609 the Skeletor character. And then there was just 00:25:52.609 --> 00:25:55.869 that one scene that just creeped me the hell 00:25:55.869 --> 00:25:57.890 out. But we'll talk about that next time. Yeah, 00:25:57.950 --> 00:26:00.029 for me, I buy that somewhat. The Skeletor is 00:26:00.029 --> 00:26:02.170 supposed to be unhinged in a way and almost have 00:26:02.170 --> 00:26:04.109 like multiple personalities. So, like, I don't 00:26:04.109 --> 00:26:06.430 mind him kind of going off into different things, 00:26:06.549 --> 00:26:08.990 go crazy, go subtle, go soft, go loud. Like, 00:26:08.990 --> 00:26:12.089 I just think Oppenheimer could have done it better. 00:26:13.809 --> 00:26:15.069 Yeah, I don't think they were getting him for 00:26:15.069 --> 00:26:17.789 a long amount of time. No, I don't think so either. 00:26:18.109 --> 00:26:20.890 Steve, I wanted to get your opinion too on something 00:26:20.890 --> 00:26:23.079 that I... thought jumped out especially during 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:24.799 the second part even more so compared to the 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.740 first part but i think they did a fantastic job 00:26:26.740 --> 00:26:29.980 of showing the scale of the battles of showing 00:26:29.980 --> 00:26:33.259 depth in the scenes um you know the distance 00:26:33.259 --> 00:26:36.319 the the amount of space we're working with like 00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:38.720 on the landscape as well as like the scale of 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.440 the people um things of that nature i know we 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:42.799 kind of talked a little bit about the animation 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.299 but anything else on that line from a visual 00:26:45.299 --> 00:26:48.029 standpoint that stood out to you Well, the amount 00:26:48.029 --> 00:26:50.910 of detail and color that they had in there or 00:26:50.910 --> 00:26:52.990 lack thereof, depending on the type of battle 00:26:52.990 --> 00:26:59.670 going on, was it was actually it was quite epic 00:26:59.670 --> 00:27:02.089 because you got a lot of detail flowing around 00:27:02.089 --> 00:27:05.789 on the screen at the same time and varying. Because, 00:27:05.910 --> 00:27:08.269 I mean, this this half was a lot of it was just 00:27:08.269 --> 00:27:12.470 battle, you know, obviously. So just because 00:27:12.470 --> 00:27:17.480 Skeletor God and everything else going on. But, 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:23.579 I mean, seeing the various man -of -arms outfitted 00:27:23.579 --> 00:27:29.200 lieutenants of King Randor's army and a certain 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:36.640 villain from Down Under coming back and... I 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:39.819 mean, I think we can say, you know, Scarecrow, 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:43.579 because, you know, that's not... Subternia was 00:27:43.579 --> 00:27:49.109 not a spoiler here. No. But seeing a lot of that 00:27:49.109 --> 00:27:52.609 stuff play out, though, multiple battles going 00:27:52.609 --> 00:27:54.950 on simultaneously, like the amount of scale that 00:27:54.950 --> 00:27:59.170 they were playing with here, one, to keep it 00:27:59.170 --> 00:28:07.849 all in a coherent thought between all the various 00:28:07.849 --> 00:28:13.150 individuals that were fighting, and then the 00:28:13.150 --> 00:28:16.950 fact that And they managed to capture all the 00:28:16.950 --> 00:28:22.329 vivid colors and all the gear that they have, 00:28:22.529 --> 00:28:27.349 the powers, just everything. It was just a lot 00:28:27.349 --> 00:28:29.910 of fun to watch. Yeah, and another thing that 00:28:29.910 --> 00:28:31.430 they did, Mike, and I'll let you talk about the 00:28:31.430 --> 00:28:32.910 visual scale and stuff, because I just think 00:28:32.910 --> 00:28:34.089 there was a couple of shots where they kind of 00:28:34.089 --> 00:28:36.230 backed up and did it from a faraway perspective 00:28:36.230 --> 00:28:38.529 that made it really cool. But another thing that 00:28:38.529 --> 00:28:40.710 they do in this kind of a continuation from the 00:28:40.710 --> 00:28:42.839 first part is. They obviously stick with a very 00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.539 mature tone throughout this second part. So we're 00:28:45.539 --> 00:28:46.980 going to have deaths that we'll get into in the 00:28:46.980 --> 00:28:49.519 spoiler section. We won't do any of that right 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.279 now. But I just thought, like, how many cartoons 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.660 outside of non -anime cartoons have you seen 00:28:55.660 --> 00:28:57.980 that are just showing blood drip from a character 00:28:57.980 --> 00:29:00.099 and things of that nature? So they definitely. 00:29:00.809 --> 00:29:04.369 had a lot of the mature tones to this as, you 00:29:04.369 --> 00:29:06.329 know, something that's not for necessarily the 00:29:06.329 --> 00:29:08.069 kids. This is for the people that are adults 00:29:08.069 --> 00:29:10.089 now that grew up, you know, watching this as 00:29:10.089 --> 00:29:12.529 a kid. So Mike, any thoughts on the visuals, 00:29:12.589 --> 00:29:14.309 the mature aspects of it or anything like that? 00:29:15.369 --> 00:29:19.190 I thought it was interesting. I thought that 00:29:19.190 --> 00:29:22.490 it's more of the same of what we saw in part 00:29:22.490 --> 00:29:25.890 one, because it isn't like there's like 10 times 00:29:25.890 --> 00:29:29.450 more blood in this. And again, this is Netflix. 00:29:29.529 --> 00:29:35.970 This is people. Okay, when I was a kid, I got 00:29:35.970 --> 00:29:38.690 to see He -Man and the Masters of the Universe 00:29:38.690 --> 00:29:43.990 on WSBK, Channel 38 in Boston. That was an over 00:29:43.990 --> 00:29:47.470 -the -air channel. Obviously, almost 40 years 00:29:47.470 --> 00:29:51.339 ago now, that... It was a completely different 00:29:51.339 --> 00:29:53.720 landscape with standards, boards, and practices, 00:29:53.859 --> 00:29:56.200 and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And standards, 00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:58.339 boards, and practices is still a thing today 00:29:58.339 --> 00:30:00.640 on Cartoon Network and things like that. But 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.640 this is Netflix. This is a pay subscription for 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:08.059 adults. Yes, there are kid profiles. Yes, yes, 00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.279 yes. But it doesn't matter, like you just said. 00:30:10.740 --> 00:30:16.779 This incarnation is supposed to be for us who 00:30:16.779 --> 00:30:20.740 grew up with it. I didn't mind it. It didn't 00:30:20.740 --> 00:30:23.400 gross me out. It didn't freak me out too much. 00:30:23.779 --> 00:30:29.039 The one thing I will say was I was really, really 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:35.240 interested to see shades of She -Ra in this second 00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:39.460 part. In the one scene in the beginning with 00:30:39.460 --> 00:30:42.279 Teela and Adam. Because I was like, hey, wait 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:44.579 a second. That's not a part of the sorceress's 00:30:44.579 --> 00:30:51.879 powers. That's a part of She -Ra's powers. interesting 00:30:51.879 --> 00:30:54.160 um we might have to get more into that in the 00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:57.599 spoiler section yes yes i think the other thing 00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:59.099 for me and steve kind of mentioned a little bit 00:30:59.099 --> 00:31:00.640 about how there's a lot of battles and there's 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:02.880 a lot of things like that i do think that's true 00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.960 but i had like an overwhelming feeling that there 00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:08.740 was a whole lot of exposition going on in this 00:31:08.740 --> 00:31:10.559 part compared to the first part like there's 00:31:11.069 --> 00:31:13.309 A lot of dialogue. There's a lot of one -on -one 00:31:13.309 --> 00:31:16.349 conversations. There's a lot of going back and 00:31:16.349 --> 00:31:19.250 forth to me. And I think at times it's done well. 00:31:20.529 --> 00:31:22.809 There's a great scene between Man -at -Arms and 00:31:22.809 --> 00:31:25.769 Evil -Lyn. I won't go into the setting and things 00:31:25.769 --> 00:31:27.710 of that nature, but there's a great scene between 00:31:27.710 --> 00:31:30.390 Man -at -Arms and Evil -Lyn. There's also some 00:31:30.390 --> 00:31:32.470 decent scenes between Beastman and Evil -Lyn. 00:31:33.210 --> 00:31:36.230 And a couple other one -on -one characters where 00:31:36.230 --> 00:31:37.950 they just... take two characters, they let them 00:31:37.950 --> 00:31:39.970 have a conversation, and you really get to delve 00:31:39.970 --> 00:31:42.269 into what's behind those characters and what 00:31:42.269 --> 00:31:43.769 makes those characters. I thought that was really 00:31:43.769 --> 00:31:46.750 done well in a few instances. But then on the 00:31:46.750 --> 00:31:48.869 other side of that, I felt like sometimes there 00:31:48.869 --> 00:31:51.269 was so much hemming and hawing and going back 00:31:51.269 --> 00:31:53.470 and forth over a single decision here and there 00:31:53.470 --> 00:31:56.609 that it took away from their ability to spend 00:31:56.609 --> 00:31:59.170 that time doing a little bit more. I thought 00:31:59.170 --> 00:32:01.450 they could have done more with the time they 00:32:01.450 --> 00:32:04.029 had over these five episodes instead of... focusing 00:32:04.029 --> 00:32:06.690 so much on a couple decisions that a character 00:32:06.690 --> 00:32:09.769 was very indecisive about. So while I enjoyed 00:32:09.769 --> 00:32:11.150 the characterization in those conversations, 00:32:11.410 --> 00:32:15.109 I just wish they would have somewhat sped that 00:32:15.109 --> 00:32:16.509 up a little bit so that we could have gotten 00:32:16.509 --> 00:32:18.609 more done in these five episodes. I don't know, 00:32:18.650 --> 00:32:20.089 Mike, you were nodding your head a little bit 00:32:20.089 --> 00:32:27.890 on that. Yeah, I mean, there needs to be a balance 00:32:27.890 --> 00:32:34.490 between dialogue and action. And, you know, if 00:32:34.490 --> 00:32:43.549 people go back to episode 1 through 44, whatever 00:32:43.549 --> 00:32:47.569 it is of this podcast, you'll hear Kevin and 00:32:47.569 --> 00:32:50.369 I talking about the old Filmation series, and 00:32:50.369 --> 00:32:54.150 you'll hear us in several episodes saying there's 00:32:54.150 --> 00:32:56.970 either not enough dialogue or there's too much 00:32:56.970 --> 00:32:59.980 action. There's not much to talk about in this 00:32:59.980 --> 00:33:03.779 episode because it was all action or whatever. 00:33:03.940 --> 00:33:07.279 And I get it. You know, you get, like, out of 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.960 five episodes, you get three episodes in. You 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.660 may have a few battles. You may have a few dialogue 00:33:12.660 --> 00:33:15.480 scenes, whatever. And then the majority of episode 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:21.140 four is the battle. That's fine. Right. You know, 00:33:21.180 --> 00:33:24.519 that's fine. It is what it is. But you can't. 00:33:26.300 --> 00:33:32.140 over -action something or over... Yeah. There 00:33:32.140 --> 00:33:34.019 was just a lot of exposition, I felt. Yeah, yeah, 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.519 yeah. You can't over -exposition something either. 00:33:37.579 --> 00:33:39.059 Yeah, I mean, it wasn't something that ruined 00:33:39.059 --> 00:33:40.480 it for me. I just felt like there was opportunities 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:42.299 lost because we were spending so much time on 00:33:42.299 --> 00:33:45.259 a couple of these decisions. But just kind of 00:33:45.259 --> 00:33:47.440 giving your thoughts on that, Steve, or any final 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:48.960 thoughts before, because we can't get into too 00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:50.400 much more without getting into spoiler territory. 00:33:50.579 --> 00:33:52.880 So just kind of going around the room here and 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.319 getting any final thoughts on... non -spoiler 00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:57.579 stuff that you wanted to mention or overall thoughts 00:33:57.579 --> 00:34:00.839 on this second part. Start with you, Steve. Like 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:03.500 I said, I enjoyed a lot of the direction that 00:34:03.500 --> 00:34:05.859 this one went and the fact that it wrapped up 00:34:05.859 --> 00:34:08.059 certain storylines with certain characters. It 00:34:08.059 --> 00:34:09.639 resolves some things that you're kind of like, 00:34:09.699 --> 00:34:13.840 hey, why'd this happen this way? And then some 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.300 of the cliffhangers from part one, there's a 00:34:16.300 --> 00:34:19.719 lot of resolution going on in this as well as 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:24.380 some added questions, I guess I could say. Absolutely. 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:34.659 Mike? He showed her his old face. Oh, Lord. And 00:34:34.659 --> 00:34:36.860 I'm not even talking about that one scene that 00:34:36.860 --> 00:34:38.820 we'll talk about next time, but I'm just waiting 00:34:38.820 --> 00:34:42.019 for that repaint at this point because of a certain 00:34:42.019 --> 00:34:44.800 character that shows back up. And I will say 00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:49.059 right now, I loved his performance. I enjoyed 00:34:49.059 --> 00:34:52.659 it in the first part, but I loved it in this 00:34:52.659 --> 00:34:58.039 part. Griffin, you were an amazing voice actor, 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:04.460 sir. So, yeah, really enjoyed it. Overall, I 00:35:04.460 --> 00:35:10.699 think maybe sometime next year, because next 00:35:10.699 --> 00:35:13.139 year technically is the 40th anniversary of the 00:35:13.139 --> 00:35:17.619 overall brand. But I may want to revisit this 00:35:17.619 --> 00:35:22.409 and watch all 10 episodes and just do one. podcast 00:35:22.409 --> 00:35:24.489 talking about the whole thing as one because 00:35:24.489 --> 00:35:28.590 i actually tried to watch it all 10 before we 00:35:28.590 --> 00:35:33.750 did this and i just i just couldn't i just didn't 00:35:33.750 --> 00:35:36.010 have enough time Yeah, overall, I don't think 00:35:36.010 --> 00:35:37.789 there's going to be a whole lot of negative said 00:35:37.789 --> 00:35:39.789 about this part. I think most people should enjoy 00:35:39.789 --> 00:35:41.570 it. I think the people that enjoyed the first 00:35:41.570 --> 00:35:43.409 part are going to enjoy this one as well. I think 00:35:43.409 --> 00:35:44.789 some of the people that were bothered by the 00:35:44.789 --> 00:35:46.610 first part might enjoy this part more. So I'd 00:35:46.610 --> 00:35:48.130 be interested to see what the fans' reactions 00:35:48.130 --> 00:35:50.730 and the actually intelligent people's reactions 00:35:50.730 --> 00:35:53.230 are about this series. But I think that's going 00:35:53.230 --> 00:35:55.349 to do it for our non -spoiler talk. We can't 00:35:55.349 --> 00:35:56.929 talk about it anymore. They've told us we can't, 00:35:56.929 --> 00:36:00.619 and we don't want to break the rules. The law 00:36:00.619 --> 00:36:02.739 when it comes to that, because then they'll stop 00:36:02.739 --> 00:36:05.480 giving us access to this stuff early. Break the 00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.760 law, right. Break their law. Break their laws. 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:12.679 Okay, sure. Considering half of that trailer 00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.340 that they released basically spoils everything. 00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:17.579 Everything they told us not to spoil, they spoiled 00:36:17.579 --> 00:36:19.099 in the trailer. But we're not going to do it. 00:36:19.179 --> 00:36:20.460 We'll let them do it. We're not going to say 00:36:20.460 --> 00:36:23.659 anything about that. Nope. 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This cat is scared 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.679 and thinks there's trouble, so keep him safe 00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:23.539 inside a bubble. See? I'm protecting Cringer's 00:38:23.539 --> 00:38:26.159 hearing in a soundproof bubble. He's not scared 00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:30.539 anymore because he can't hear. He also can't 00:38:30.539 --> 00:38:35.860 breathe. Um, there is no air. It's made things 00:38:35.860 --> 00:38:40.539 worse. Come on, Bubble, it's time to burst. Uh, 00:38:40.619 --> 00:38:43.239 does anyone have the power to help me save Cringer? 00:38:45.619 --> 00:38:52.239 I have the power.