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This is Man at Arms, and you are listening to

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the Masters of Greyskull. We want to believe

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in an ordered universe. Some grand architecture

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holding it all together. But alas, after all

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these years, I finally know the real secret of

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Greyskull. There is only power. And now, I...

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I have the power. This is a new era. As the new

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sorceress, the bumbling idiocies of the past

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will no longer be tolerated. The only way we

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can stop this sorceress is with another sorceress.

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If we want to live, we're going to have to fight.

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If I can tap into the power, I can stop her.

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Soon, all of Eternia will remember this historic

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moment when Skeletor finally kills He -Man! What

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are we laughing at? See, the sword is just the

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conduit. But the spark? That was always me. No.

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By the power of... Citizens of Eternia, we're

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in dire need of your help. There is nothing to

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live for. Many chaos. Anti -chaos. Will we all

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return? Thank you for being my daughter. Now

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you need to be something greater. Look at the

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sky. All hope is gone. Everything will end. Find

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safe positions. There are no safe positions.

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Oh, there's one. Behind me. For Eternia! Oh,

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you guys are in trouble. Hello, this is Optimus

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Solo, and welcome to the 128th chapter in our

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Powers of Greyskull series. With me for this

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journey into the Masters of the Universe franchise

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is TFG1 Mike. Hello. Hello. And once again, another

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time, getting a special guest from the world

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of Cybertron, Steve Megatron Phillips. Hello.

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Hello. Excellent. So we're all here. And this

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time, as you can tell by the title of this episode,

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we're talking spoilers about Kevin Smith's Masters

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of the Universe Revelation Part 2. So you already

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got our non -spoiler talk, but now we get to

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get into the more juicy stuff. We get to chew

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on some spoiler -rific stuff. Mike, are you ready

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for all this? I think so. Steve, are you ready?

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Oh, yes. Excellent. All right. That means it's

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time to go back to Eternia. Spoilers. Alright,

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starting off today, guys, we get to talk about

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spoilers of Revelation Part 2. First off, let's

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just get into the characters that we meet along

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the course of this Part 2. Because I know when

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we were talking about Part 1, we talked about,

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well, will we see new characters in Part 2? Will

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it just be the same? Who will we get to see if

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we get to see new characters? We do get to see

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a bunch of new characters. It's time for this

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mist to meet my fist! I shouldn't say a bunch.

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We do get to see a handful of new characters.

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I really loved one of them. Maybe two of them.

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And I was really disappointed at a number of

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characters that we still don't get to have in

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this part. And one of them just really makes

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my head hurt that they didn't think that they

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wanted to include this character in there yet.

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But let's get into it. So we get to meet... I

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don't think Fisto was in part one at all, was

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he? No. Okay, and we get Clamp Champ, who we

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didn't get to see. We get Goatman and Pigboy.

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Did I say that right? I guess, yeah. Goatman

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and Pigboy. And my favorite one, there was a

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couple other ones that didn't get named. I'd

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have to look at the credits to see if they got

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named in the credits, but there was an imp -like

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looking character. There was a couple other ones,

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but my favorite. favorite character that they

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decided to put in there just out of nowhere and

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it probably doesn't make any sense but i love

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that they thought that they threw him in there

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mike they put blade in here yeah they did from

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the live action movie like that was incredible

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like i don't care i didn't care about anything

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else at that point like that was one of my like

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geek out fanboy moments was when blade shows

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up and is wielding all of his swords and and

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fighting and stuff like that so that part i was

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very happy with And then we also get a very brief,

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I guess, edition of Ram Man. And there might

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have been a few evil warriors that we didn't

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see in the first part, but they really don't

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get too much time or attention here. But we do

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get, what, Web Store, Spycore. Yeah. And I'm

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missing one. We actually get Spycore versus what

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happened in part one where Skeletor was disguised

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as Spycore. Right. And then there's a really

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cheap addition of the Avians and the Andrinids

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and stuff like that without ever actually giving

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us Buzz Off or Stratos. Yeah, that was a little

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cheap. Like, I did not enjoy that. I'm like,

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there's a part in this where Teela is trying

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to get a message out to all of Eternia, a .k

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.a. We're assuming not just the citizens of Eternia,

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but we're looking for the other masters that

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are scattered throughout the world. Yeah. And

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I'm like, yes, they're going to do like a montage

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or they're going to do like a series of scenes

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where we're getting Stratos. We're getting buzz

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off. We're getting, you know, mechanic. We're

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getting. manny faces we're getting all these

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people and we're bringing them in and then they

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don't do that nope not at all instead we just

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get the joining of people over a hillside and

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we get to see that some of them are buzz offs

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people and some of them are stratus's people

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and some of them are just random ass people um

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and i thought that was a really missed opportunity

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they teased us like they were going to do it

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and then they didn't do it and i was kind of

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upset mike what did you feel about all the different

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characters that we get to see in part two i liked

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them I thought it was cool. I thought it was

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interesting. I was like, oh, people are actually

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paying attention to what characters are in this

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series. People aren't just spouting off at their

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1982 or 1981 mouths on the internet. I watched

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Masters of the Universe in 1981 when I was a

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kid. No, you didn't. You know, I liked all the

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characters. I liked all the designs. Again, animation,

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top notch. There isn't much that other than,

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oh, my God, oh, my God, it's so awesome, it's

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so awesome. I did not see any animation moments

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where I was like, that just doesn't look right.

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Like, this is Powerhouse, people, and Powerhouse

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is a damn – Powerhouse is the studio of today.

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whereas Filmation was the studio, at least for

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He -Man, in the 80s and whatever. And I know

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Filmation had its issues and whatever, but the

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difference is, in most of the stuff, is all the

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animation in the 80s, at least the He -Man stuff,

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was all rotoscoped from real people. Like, you

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don't see that done today, but this... Whatever

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anime style, whatever they're using, whatever

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style you want to call it, because it is CGI,

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but it isn't CGI. I really dug that. I loved

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how one particular character came back, and I'm

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waiting for his new action figure because we

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need to see a blue orco now. Oh, we have the

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return of Orko, which I alluded to in the first

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part. I was like, there's no way he's dead. They've

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already hinted at it. He's coming back. Yeah.

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And he does come back in a cool way. Steve, any

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thoughts of the new characters that you met along

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the way in part two? I liked getting to see the

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diversity of characters that kind of popped up.

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One, because I'm not super familiar with a lot

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of the secondary, tertiary, and, you know, from

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there on characters. So that was kind of interesting.

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Randman, that was fun watching. The bomb drop,

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as it were, with him showing up. But I don't

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know. I like some of the some of the transformations

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that happened, some of the new characters that

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kind of showed up. Orko, of course, coming back

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was was something that I was excited to see,

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as well as the fact that Tila saved Adam only

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for Adam to. harness the power of greyskull without

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his sword yeah so obviously that's going to be

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a big part this is going to be the one thing

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that probably angers fans a little bit i think

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it's going to be a little polarizing i don't

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think some will mind but i think others are going

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to use this as a thing where they're going to

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be like oh you know kevin smith and you can't

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be he -man without the sword you can't summon

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the power without the sword this that and the

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other um i think that's going to be a sticking

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point with some people um but i thought it was

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an interesting take like to realize that he might

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not need the sword, that the sword maybe harnesses

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the power, but doesn't, isn't required to get

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the power. But Mike, we see a lot of people in

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this series garnish the power of gray skull,

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so to speak. Um, so we have Skeletor, we have

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He -Man, we have Eva Lynn. You get the power,

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you get the power. Yeah. It was basically an

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Oprah moment. So what did you think about all

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of these different people being able to wield

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the power, even though some of them didn't have

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the sword at the time? I said last time, when

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we did that on spoiler that this is the single,

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my single least enjoyed performance from Mark

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Hamill, where I think he was actually bad as

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the character. I think that in this, you know,

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in this second part, his best parts were when

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he was so incredulous of how did, why did he

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choose him? How could he call it down without

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, I thought

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that was really cool. Tell me how he did that.

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As you want, my lord. He spoke the words empty

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-handed, and he became the power incarnate. And,

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yeah, it... They did two things so far with part

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one and part two. They've said, what happens

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if He -Man, as already being He -Man, summons

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the power again? And now they've done, what if

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He -Man summons the power without holding the

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sword? So they are two decent questions to ask,

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like what's going to happen if they try this.

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So it's not like it's going against anything.

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It's just something that's never been tried before.

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We've never seen it before. Right. But again,

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it's also what I like about it isn't just because,

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oh, hey, guess what? We get Savage He -Man, which

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was a toy at some point in time or whatever.

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And actually, was it? Yeah, it was part two that

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I saw in one of the crowd scenes. I'm like, hey,

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there's one dar. But what I like about the scene

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with, you know, Skeletor cackling and then Adam

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starts laughing and what are we laughing about

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is is Adam's explanation. Yeah. The sword is

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the conduit. Right. That's what makes it so I

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can control it. Yeah. He is the spark. He is

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the one that has the power because the power

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is given unto him from the sorceress. And Skeletor

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just doesn't understand that. Skeletor is used

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to, you know, bippity boppity boop, you know,

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with his havoc staff and things like that and

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whatever. He doesn't understand the fact that

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someone who is so good and pure has this immeasurable

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power. power it's it's kind of like he meant

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well it's kind of like adam is is thor you know

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right in in age of ultron well the answer is

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you're all just not worthy and he picks it up

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and he you know tosses the the mill near around

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whatever you know it's that kind of thing and

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skeletor isn't stupid he just can't wrap his

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head around that fact and i thought that was

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cool i thought that was interesting i thought

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that was a way to Not necessarily explained to

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us, but for example, not that I think you'll

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ever do this, but let's say you show your 12

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-year -old or 13 -year -old daughter when she

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grows up this show, and maybe you're comparing

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it to the old show, whatever. I think that's

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why those explanations are there. It's not for

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us. Yeah, I can see that. We already kind of

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get it. As soon as Adam said that, I'm like,

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oh. Yeah, that makes sense. Right. So in part

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one, we were left off with Adam being stabbed

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and not knowing how that was going to work since

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I'd already killed him off once. Are they killing

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him off again? Tila, it is revealed finally,

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even though we've known about this for a long

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time, but it's never been depicted in cartoon

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form because they never got that far. But we

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finally get to learn that Tila is the sorceress's

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daughter. And so she has some magic in her as

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well. I guess that gives them an easy plot device

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to fix Adam and heal him and make him so he's

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not going to die anymore. But that doesn't stop

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them from killing a whole bunch of other people.

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So they kill off the sorceress. They kill off

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Fisto and Clampchamp. So there is a bunch more

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death here. They kill everybody in Preternia.

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Well, they can't decide what they're going to

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call it because they call it Preternia, but then

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Queen Marlena calls it Heaven. So they can't

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even get their terminology straight. But I know

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it's supposed to be the same thing, but stick

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with what it's called in the story or don't go

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back and forth. But yeah, they kill everybody.

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So Mossman and everybody in Preternia, I guess,

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are dead. So we have some death here. Mike, Steve,

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what do you guys think? Right off the bat, we

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have immediate death, and they continue to do

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that throughout the part. Steve? Well, it doesn't

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surprise me, to be honest. It's all a part of

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that, you know, take the old burn it away mentality.

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Shock factor, yeah. Yeah, and it's shock factor

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for one. I mean, how else are you going to raise

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the stakes unless you wipe out, you know, all

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the Guardians? Or you wipe out all of these different

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people? Or you, you know, decide, oh, Evelyn

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hates everything, so she's going to burn the

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whole universe down. basically calls out Skeletor

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for saying, you have all of this unlimited power,

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and you just want to kill He -Man. Yeah. I mean,

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she does, while I think her actions are reprehensible,

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she does have a point when she is explaining

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about how to kill Skeletor, because he was never,

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ever, like, I like that about her story, and

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we're not talking about what she becomes or any

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of that, because Netflix asked us not to. I like

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that we got her story in this. We saw where she

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came from. We saw how she met Skeletor. We saw

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how once she met Skeletor, she was never really

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out from under his thumb, even after he supposedly

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died the first time. But he was never really

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gone, you know. And her solution to that is,

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well, if I can't kill you. just to kill you,

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then I guess I have to kill everything, you know,

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punch of kill everything kind of thing. Right.

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Um, I mean, I think we're allowed to talk about

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some of that, that stuff now in the spoilers,

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right. Or not. Um, either way. Um, yeah. So,

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but yeah, but in the first part, we can talk

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about it now here. Yeah. All I know is that,

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uh, that image says, please do not mention. yeah

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that was for the stuff that's released before

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before that's that's it's okay for part one so

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part two we can talk about it so basically what

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we have here is that skeletor and evil and have

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now taken the role of he -man and the sorceress

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so uh skeletor is he -man because he has a sword

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and evil and becomes the sorceress because the

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sorceress is killed and then we get the cool

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little i guess um genie in aladdin twist where

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it's like remember when you made evil in the

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sorceress now she controls you it's just kind

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of like the lamp and the genie and all that type

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of stuff so um it was kind of an interesting

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twist there and then we get we get a bunch of

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different looks for evil in both in part one

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and in part two so we go from The long hair without

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everything, and then we get the sorceress look

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where she cuts all the hair off again, and then

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we get this evil in on steroids. She's the other

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person that gets to wield the power of Greyskull,

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etc. So it's an interesting thing, but what I

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was talking about in part one, if you go back

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and listen to the non -spoiler talk, is this

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whole back and forth, back and forth, back and

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forth between evil in and multiple characters

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on why she is subservient to Skeletor. And it

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just goes over and over. She has conversations

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with Beastman about it. She has conversations

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with Man -at -Arms about it. She has scenes with

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Skeletor where they're teasing it and stuff like

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that. So I felt like that could have been done

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a little bit quicker. They also played up the

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romance between Evelyn and Skeletor more than

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it's ever been done before. They smithified it

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is what they did to it. Evil and call Skeletor

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my love. At one point, there's a kiss, which

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I don't need in my He -Man. I'm not against romance.

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I'm not against physical acts and stuff like

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that, seeing it in different stuff. But I don't

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want it in He -Man, I guess. Not with a human

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and a skull. Yeah, it was weird. They tried to

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do a side angle so that it didn't look weird,

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and it still looked weird. But anyways, so you

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have this love angle, but then you have this

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whole he's abusive. you're in an abusive relationship

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and you need to break free type thing. And it

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takes like a thousand conversations about it

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before she finally is like, yeah, I'm the boss

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now. You're nothing. Um, which leads us to the

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typical bad guys and good guys joining sides.

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So Mike, Steve, what did you think about He -Man

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and Skeletor on the same side, battling steroid

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evil in Mike? I, I just can't. I don't know.

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It's not a bad thing, and I am kind of glad that

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she ended up being the big bad. I think it's

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just a thing of, like you said, they're trying

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to work in real -life issues. And don't get me

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wrong, that's fine in certain cartoons, and that's

00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:06.759
fine if you are... a writer or a producer or

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whatever for cartoons. And you want to put something

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in here about abusive relationships, but she

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got to destroy the whole universe to get rid

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of her boyfriend. Really? Really? I mean, that's

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worse than going on Jerry Springer. Right. I

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thought it was hilarious. The Skeletor just leaves.

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As soon as she like summons the power, he's like,

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I'm out of here. She did get a cool cape out

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of it. I just don't know if having a third person

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summoning the power in this one part was almost

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seemed like too much. Like you're doing it too

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much now. Like if it would have been spread out

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a little bit more or something like that, but

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like one person after the other is summoning

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the power, which is a little weird. And when

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I was talking about the exposition in part one,

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get into it a little bit more now, because you

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have on one scene that they're cutting to all

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the evil and stuff where she's like, do I turn

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on Skeletor? Do I take control? Do I, you know,

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harness the power, et cetera, et cetera. And

00:21:00.579 --> 00:21:01.900
every time you're cutting away, then you're going

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to Teela, do I become the sorceress? Do I go

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into this water? Do I forgo everybody I know?

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And when you're going back and forth between

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hemming and hawing on these decisions, which

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I get it, they're real decisions, and it's not

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going to be something easily decided upon in

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that moment. But when you're juxtaposing both

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against each other, it just led me to be like,

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okay, we're doing a lot of thinking, and I want

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to see more of... The fighty fight. Stories and

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stuff like that. I'm usually not that type of

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person. I'm usually one that likes more dialogue

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and likes more characterization. But here I'm

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like, okay, it's almost too much at this point.

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And we didn't talk about it too much. He -Man

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turns into Savage He -Man. I know you mentioned

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it. We have the Army of the Dead, I guess. They

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had to work in a zombie storyline, I guess, into

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this. It's Kevin Smith. The bad guys. We have

00:21:52.299 --> 00:21:55.099
some Kevin Smith lines going on here with Fisto.

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They literally said fist him at one point. Yes,

00:22:00.170 --> 00:22:03.289
they did. And then, oh, this mist is going to

00:22:03.289 --> 00:22:06.769
meet my fist. And I'm like, I just started laughing.

00:22:07.049 --> 00:22:10.049
I was like, that is the stupidest line. Yeah,

00:22:10.089 --> 00:22:12.190
there was a terrible line in there at one point.

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I just want to point it out because I don't know

00:22:13.509 --> 00:22:16.369
if the voice actor misspoke or if it's miswritten.

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But they say the line, and I know this is being

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super nitpicky, but they say the line, whatever

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is left of our friends is long gone. That sentence

00:22:24.819 --> 00:22:27.579
makes no sense. If they're left, they're not

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long gone. If they're long gone, they're not

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left. I think they were supposed to say whatever

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was left of our friends is long gone. But they

00:22:35.319 --> 00:22:37.240
completely butchered that line or it was written

00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:42.019
bad. And then we also learned that He -Man, Savage

00:22:42.019 --> 00:22:44.039
He -Man is more powerful than Skele -God some

00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:47.140
of the time. And at one scene it's like that.

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And then the other scene they're going tit for

00:22:48.339 --> 00:22:52.670
tat like even Steven. That was kind of interesting.

00:22:52.809 --> 00:22:54.150
I don't know if you guys know this, but Kevin

00:22:54.150 --> 00:22:56.490
Smith worked his way into the voice acting in

00:22:56.490 --> 00:22:59.910
this because he does the voice of Pig Boy or

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Goat Man. One of those henchmen is Kevin Smith

00:23:01.829 --> 00:23:04.430
voicing it. I'd have to look to see which one.

00:23:04.789 --> 00:23:09.309
Honestly, I don't care. Those characters were

00:23:09.309 --> 00:23:14.410
cannon fodder in my mind. Yeah, yeah. Let's see.

00:23:14.470 --> 00:23:16.630
What are some of the other stuff here? Mike,

00:23:16.630 --> 00:23:18.609
going back to the characters, I'm just really

00:23:18.609 --> 00:23:20.569
still upset that Zodak doesn't find a way in

00:23:20.569 --> 00:23:23.519
here. You're talking about all this magic and

00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:26.019
all this power and the most powerful beings ever,

00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:28.200
and they still don't find a way to work Zodak

00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:33.019
in here. That bothered me. Okay, so the only

00:23:33.019 --> 00:23:35.539
thing I can speculate with, and I'm going to

00:23:35.539 --> 00:23:37.440
not necessarily jump to the end, but I'm going

00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:40.220
to jump to the end really quick here. The only

00:23:40.220 --> 00:23:42.920
thing I can speculate, and I don't know. Ladies

00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:44.940
and gentlemen, if you're hearing the sound of

00:23:44.940 --> 00:23:48.789
my voice, do not. take this seriously i am not

00:23:48.789 --> 00:23:51.349
putting out a clickbait title for an article

00:23:51.349 --> 00:23:55.490
here okay the only thing i can think of is if

00:23:55.490 --> 00:23:58.069
because they are basing this on the toys and

00:23:58.069 --> 00:24:00.990
what mattel properties has and blah blah blah

00:24:00.990 --> 00:24:04.250
maybe they're gonna do a zodiac hordak thing

00:24:04.250 --> 00:24:06.470
because they kind of did that in the comics a

00:24:06.470 --> 00:24:11.160
few times i don't know And honestly, I don't

00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:13.599
think you could fit him in here. I don't – with

00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:16.200
the way that the writers and the way that Kevin

00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:20.079
Smith maestroed these writers, I assume, because

00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:22.480
I know it's not him writing most of these things.

00:24:22.539 --> 00:24:24.980
It's other writers that they have on the – he's

00:24:24.980 --> 00:24:29.400
the executive producer. Maybe it's the direction

00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:33.920
he pushed them in or the direction he made them

00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:38.680
go in. But there is so – like I'm actually –

00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:42.940
you know, to go right to point dread, I am dreading

00:24:42.940 --> 00:24:46.500
later on next year going back and trying to watch

00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:50.279
all ten of these episodes at once because this

00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:53.579
is a lot. Part one was a lot, part two is a lot,

00:24:53.700 --> 00:24:56.019
and part two is even more than part one, even

00:24:56.019 --> 00:24:59.619
though it's not a balance of exposition and action,

00:24:59.700 --> 00:25:04.819
of character stuff and action stuff, it's still

00:25:04.819 --> 00:25:09.680
so much. Yeah, we get, I think, an imp sighting.

00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:11.839
We get the Mystic Mountains. We get Manticores.

00:25:12.140 --> 00:25:15.900
We get Point Dread. We get Shadow Beasts. Scareglow

00:25:15.900 --> 00:25:19.799
comes back. We finally got a panther sighting

00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.559
towards the end. Yeah, that was cool. That was

00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:26.339
kind of shattering. Yeah, yeah. And then, of

00:25:26.339 --> 00:25:28.380
course, obviously we have the orco. We talked

00:25:28.380 --> 00:25:30.980
about his coming back because they raised the

00:25:30.980 --> 00:25:35.470
dead, so that involved orco as well. All that

00:25:35.470 --> 00:25:39.130
stuff was good. A couple other lines that I didn't

00:25:39.130 --> 00:25:41.190
like. There was one where they say, mine's bigger.

00:25:42.309 --> 00:25:47.529
Yeah. That's a Kevin Smith thing. Wasn't that

00:25:47.529 --> 00:25:52.009
Skeletor that said that? Yes. He goes, mine's

00:25:52.009 --> 00:25:56.210
bigger. It's funny when you say it. I didn't

00:25:56.210 --> 00:25:58.349
like it when I heard it. I didn't like it then

00:25:58.349 --> 00:26:01.210
and I don't like it now. I love Steve doing the

00:26:01.210 --> 00:26:05.779
voice. Then there's a whole moment where because

00:26:05.779 --> 00:26:08.200
we raised the dead, the dead are all going to

00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:09.859
go back to being dead, which means that Orko's

00:26:09.859 --> 00:26:11.319
going to be leaving too, but they kind of grab

00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:12.799
a hold of him so he can stay. I guess that's

00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.819
how that works. I guess that's how that works,

00:26:15.900 --> 00:26:18.359
and I can kind of suspend my disbelief for that

00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:24.730
because I get, you know, think of it as... I

00:26:24.730 --> 00:26:26.609
don't think I'm doing this right, and you'll

00:26:26.609 --> 00:26:28.849
correct me because I know you will. But they

00:26:28.849 --> 00:26:31.369
basically quantum leaped him. They took him out

00:26:31.369 --> 00:26:35.049
of the Al role and brought him into the Sam role,

00:26:35.150 --> 00:26:38.789
essentially, where he's no longer, I guess. I

00:26:38.789 --> 00:26:42.069
don't know. I'm just grasping at orcos here.

00:26:42.950 --> 00:26:44.970
They also used the line, come kiss the ring.

00:26:45.809 --> 00:26:51.430
I rolled my eyes at that one. But we can't go

00:26:51.430 --> 00:26:52.869
through this whole thing without talking about

00:26:52.869 --> 00:26:56.089
the final. where they go back to Snake Mountain.

00:26:56.309 --> 00:27:00.450
We go back for the first time and see, what is

00:27:00.450 --> 00:27:06.029
it, Trap Jaw and Triclops. And then this thing

00:27:06.029 --> 00:27:09.490
starts coming to life in a way, I guess. The

00:27:09.490 --> 00:27:11.529
motherboard, yeah. The motherboard. And then

00:27:11.529 --> 00:27:15.029
we get to see the Hordak symbol as kind of the

00:27:15.029 --> 00:27:17.369
cliffhanger for eventually a season two, I'm

00:27:17.369 --> 00:27:24.460
assuming. Yes. As it injects Skeletor. Right.

00:27:24.460 --> 00:27:27.240
So what are we thinking about Hordak? And that's

00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:29.500
the direction we might go. Is this going to excite

00:27:29.500 --> 00:27:30.980
you? Are you going to be interested in seeing

00:27:30.980 --> 00:27:32.660
the Horde, Hordak, She -Ra, different things

00:27:32.660 --> 00:27:35.119
like that? Or what do you think? Yeah, I'm really

00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:39.980
interested to see this. Like I said, I like Chris

00:27:39.980 --> 00:27:43.420
Wood as the voice of this version of Adam and

00:27:43.420 --> 00:27:46.180
He -Man. I think it works well. I'm going to

00:27:46.180 --> 00:27:49.180
be very interested to see if they bring in Adora

00:27:49.180 --> 00:27:52.059
slash She -Ra and who they get to voice her.

00:27:53.639 --> 00:27:58.180
Unlike the Transformers cartoons, Revelation

00:27:58.180 --> 00:28:02.759
is Union. Yep. Not saying they're going to get.

00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:05.480
They'll get a Supergirl watch because, you know.

00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:09.980
Oh, don't. Oh, no, they can't. It'd be hilarious.

00:28:10.220 --> 00:28:12.640
Come on. That would be hilarious, but they better

00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.839
not do that. So for those that aren't in the

00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:17.940
know, Chris Wood and Melissa Benoist, who play

00:28:17.940 --> 00:28:20.980
Supergirl, they are dating, married, whatever

00:28:20.980 --> 00:28:25.200
they are. We don't need to turn this into a Luke

00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:27.619
and Leia thing, please. Kevin Smith is not –

00:28:27.619 --> 00:28:29.660
well, Kevin Smith is worse than George Lucas.

00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.559
Yes, yes, yes. I understand. My point in saying

00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:38.680
this is if they do some sort of thing where they

00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.960
bring in Adora's – well, shit, they can't because

00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:46.160
they're already there. Damn. I was going to say

00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:49.539
you could bring in Melendi Britt as her mother,

00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:55.740
but – As if we already have Cher as Marlena.

00:28:55.779 --> 00:28:59.319
Fuck. Anyway, I don't know. I think it's cool

00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:01.980
how they left it with a cliffhanger. From what

00:29:01.980 --> 00:29:06.759
Kevin Smith in his questions, ask me anything

00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:09.240
video on YouTube that I will embed in the thing

00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:14.119
that came out, I believe it was July 21st of

00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:17.180
this year, two days before part one went out.

00:29:19.019 --> 00:29:21.799
He explained all the stuff and whatever and talked

00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:23.900
about how it's the toys and Mattel television

00:29:23.900 --> 00:29:28.940
and blah, blah, blah. You know, he had said in

00:29:28.940 --> 00:29:32.920
that that Mattel wants a season two or three

00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:37.160
by 2023. So I hope it doesn't take that long.

00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.910
Well. If they don't split it up, Netflix, if

00:29:41.910 --> 00:29:44.990
you do a 10 episode season in 2022 for season

00:29:44.990 --> 00:29:48.670
two and a 10 episode season in 2023 for season

00:29:48.670 --> 00:29:51.869
three, Bob's your uncle. There you go. But anyway,

00:29:52.089 --> 00:29:54.609
Netflix is just I just I hope that they they

00:29:54.609 --> 00:29:58.829
bring Skeletor back to normal. Yeah. Yeah. Skeletor

00:29:58.829 --> 00:30:00.730
and Hornak and the whole the whole nine yards.

00:30:00.849 --> 00:30:02.549
Bring it on. I don't know how I feel about him

00:30:02.549 --> 00:30:05.069
getting turned mechanized. Yeah, that'd be weird.

00:30:05.250 --> 00:30:07.549
But we've already seen Skeletor and everything

00:30:07.549 --> 00:30:12.039
else. Yeah. I also thought there was a great

00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:13.799
line there towards the end where they said the

00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:17.400
universe has no master. That was kind of an interesting

00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:21.480
line. But going through all of your final thoughts

00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:23.259
now, anything that you haven't been able to talk

00:30:23.259 --> 00:30:25.640
about, Steve, overall thoughts of part two. Are

00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:27.700
you excited for part three and just anything

00:30:27.700 --> 00:30:29.660
else you haven't been able to say? Oh, yeah,

00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.279
I'm definitely excited for what comes next. I

00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:34.980
was pleasantly surprised by everything that happened

00:30:34.980 --> 00:30:37.119
in this one. And you preferred part two over

00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.029
part one? Yes. All right, Mike. I preferred part

00:30:41.029 --> 00:30:45.170
one's voice acting over part two, but story -wise,

00:30:45.450 --> 00:30:51.609
part two did not feel like it was dragging on

00:30:51.609 --> 00:30:54.190
because it had to tell you the whole story. Those

00:30:54.190 --> 00:30:58.470
first five episodes, they have to build the story

00:30:58.470 --> 00:31:01.670
to you, and by the time we got to preternia and

00:31:01.670 --> 00:31:03.609
subternia, while I think it's cool what they

00:31:03.609 --> 00:31:07.019
did with those, like... with those in this series

00:31:07.019 --> 00:31:09.920
making them heaven and hell some of those scenes

00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.440
just took way too damn long and whereas part

00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:16.799
two was like hey guess what we're gonna speedy

00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:20.099
gonzalez right to the finish line yeah i think

00:31:20.099 --> 00:31:22.400
there's a lot more dialogue exposition in this

00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.160
part but there's also some pretty good scale

00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:27.700
battles and things of that nature I like that

00:31:27.700 --> 00:31:29.119
we get to see a little bit more of Skeletor,

00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:30.579
a little bit more of Adam. We don't get to see

00:31:30.579 --> 00:31:31.799
that much of He -Man, actually. We get to see

00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:34.640
Savage He -Man and Adam a lot. We don't get to

00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:36.319
see He -Man really too much until almost right

00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:40.339
at the end. But I think there's a lot to like

00:31:40.339 --> 00:31:42.259
here. I'm still waiting for more characters that

00:31:42.259 --> 00:31:44.220
are some of my favorites to appear, so I'm going

00:31:44.220 --> 00:31:46.940
to hold hope that that happens later on. I think

00:31:46.940 --> 00:31:50.089
maybe slightly I like Part 1 better, but... I

00:31:50.089 --> 00:31:51.890
can see the argument on either side. I think

00:31:51.890 --> 00:31:53.769
overall so far, if you take it as just one whole,

00:31:53.869 --> 00:31:56.650
all 10 episodes together, it makes for a pretty

00:31:56.650 --> 00:31:59.089
darn good season. And I'll be interested to kind

00:31:59.089 --> 00:32:01.470
of watch it all together at some point in the

00:32:01.470 --> 00:32:05.950
future. Yeah. I am very interested to see and

00:32:05.950 --> 00:32:08.890
listen to Bear McCreary's score for part two.

00:32:08.930 --> 00:32:13.170
I heard a lot of the main theme in part two,

00:32:13.210 --> 00:32:16.299
but I didn't really hear. I couldn't pick out

00:32:16.299 --> 00:32:19.720
specific moments of different and new music,

00:32:19.740 --> 00:32:23.460
so I'll be interested once that Bear McCreary

00:32:23.460 --> 00:32:26.599
Volume 2 score hits on Spotify to see what the

00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.779
soundtrack actually is like. But yeah, I mean,

00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.119
I think next time I just want to do it as one

00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:35.140
episode because I just feel like that's going

00:32:35.140 --> 00:32:38.339
to be better for all of us as far as the talking

00:32:38.339 --> 00:32:40.759
points and not having to dance over things and

00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.930
not having to record. a nine -minute podcast.

00:32:44.109 --> 00:32:46.150
Not that it was nine minutes, but, you know,

00:32:46.170 --> 00:32:49.910
whatever. You can probably take that out in editing,

00:32:50.049 --> 00:32:51.329
though. We don't need to talk about that on the

00:32:51.329 --> 00:32:56.230
episode. Well, still, it is what it is. It just

00:32:56.230 --> 00:32:58.809
is just one of those things where, I don't know.

00:33:00.849 --> 00:33:03.630
Any other final thoughts from you, Kev? Anything

00:33:03.630 --> 00:33:06.049
else you didn't get to say that you want to say?

00:33:06.349 --> 00:33:08.529
I just enjoy what Kevin Smith's doing with this

00:33:08.529 --> 00:33:09.730
and what the other people are doing with this.

00:33:09.769 --> 00:33:12.710
I think you can tell that they have knowledge

00:33:12.710 --> 00:33:14.670
of the series they even made a way to get the

00:33:14.670 --> 00:33:16.869
live action movie referenced in here i don't

00:33:16.869 --> 00:33:19.069
know about pig boy and goat man but uh overall

00:33:19.069 --> 00:33:20.710
i'm looking forward to seeing what we do with

00:33:20.710 --> 00:33:24.329
the horde absolutely steve anything else before

00:33:24.329 --> 00:33:27.009
i run through the outro uh nope i completely

00:33:27.009 --> 00:33:29.950
agree with everything kevin said um and then

00:33:29.950 --> 00:33:32.809
love the fact that they used uh union actors

00:33:32.809 --> 00:33:39.049
union it's the bob mentality folks Thank you

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00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.719
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00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:36.179
-filled review of the new CGI version of He -Man

00:34:36.179 --> 00:34:39.639
and the Masters of the Universe. I don't know

00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:43.260
who's joining me for that. Hey, stop it. Well,

00:34:43.420 --> 00:34:46.000
I know who's joining me for that now. Made me

00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.559
go through all that new adventure crap. For now,

00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:52.760
I am TF2 and Mike with... Steve Megatron. And

00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.630
Optimus Solo. By the power and for the honor

00:34:55.630 --> 00:35:00.510
of Greyskull, we have the power. Silly sorceress.

00:35:00.650 --> 00:35:04.090
You don't have enough magic left to engage a

00:35:04.090 --> 00:35:08.610
god. I may not be at full strength, but you're

00:35:08.610 --> 00:35:12.190
only playing at being a god, Skeletor. You forget

00:35:12.190 --> 00:35:17.409
what you truly are. And what is that? You're

00:35:17.409 --> 00:35:18.889
nothing but bones.
