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welcome back into our studio. You are now Inside

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I am, of course, TFG!1Mike, joining

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me once again, as always, is that good old detective,

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Dave Draper. Hi, Dave. How are you? I'm well,

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Mike. How are you? I am as well as I can possibly

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be. This is episode 174. We got 26 away from

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200. Today we are continuing on our journey as

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we put our detective hats on, our trench coats

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on, and all that good stuff. Jump back into Columbo

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with the Columbo files here inside Studio 2009.

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As always, starting at the beginning, going forward

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in time in continuity order. We are watching

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these, or I'm watching these on Tubi TV. Dave

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is watching these on DVD. Yes. So there's that.

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He's not happy with his season three DVD set.

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The season threes are not good. Uh -huh, yeah.

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They must have switched companies or something.

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Well, and I noticed when I first started watching

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them, they've got the little NBC mystery movie

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logo on the thing, which none of the others have.

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Yes. Oh, that's weird. It's weird. Today is season

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three, episode four, and we are witnessing some

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double exposure. Dun, dun, dun. Oh, boy. What

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an episode. Robert Culp's back. Man, oh, man.

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You know, every TV protagonist, I'll use the

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term protagonist, but hero, every TV hero, every

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cartoon hero, every movie hero always has the

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nemesis or the antagonist or the villain or the

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whatever. Man, it doesn't matter what character

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Robert Culp is playing. That guy. is one of the

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greatest classic actors I've ever seen as a villain.

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He's good in the role, yeah. He's amazing. I

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love him. Oh, man. I wish he got to do more.

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Wait until you get to Patrick Radun. As much

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as I love him, that fake voice was the worst,

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though. oh yeah that was pretty pathetic yeah

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that was pretty bad and that was funny like like

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it was just so funny because he was like trying

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to get the wife all stirred up and she's like

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whatever leave me alone yeah she didn't give

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two rips yeah she's like why are you calling

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me what do you want what are you doing yeah she

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didn't give two rips Hello, Mrs. Norris. You

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don't know me, but I think we should talk. Who

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is this? Let's just say that I am a friend of

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Tanya Baker, which is the subject about which

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I'm calling. I don't know any Tanya. Yes, I know

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you don't, Mrs. Norris, but your husband does.

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You see, Tanya's my girlfriend, and Mr. Norris

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is your husband, and I wish there was a nice

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way to put it, but there isn't. They're having

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an affair, and that's that. That is absurd. It

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is, huh? Well, that's funny, because I've got

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the proof right here in front of me. Oh, boy.

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All right. Double exposure. This one is Dr. Bart

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Keppel, played by Robert Culp, is a motivation

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research specialist. Huh? Yeah, that's a thing.

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Well, that is one of the running themes of the

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episode is that Columbo keeps trying to figure

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out what in the hell Kepler actually does. Yeah.

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Yeah. I was trying to figure that out myself.

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Like, is he in advertising? Is he in this? Is

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he in that? It feels like advertising, but he's

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pretty adamant that that's not what he does.

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It is like a weird nebulous marketing and research.

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It's pretty fuzzy. It's very fuzzy. So the way

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it's described here in the lovely Wikipedia article

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is he's a motivation research specialist at Impulse

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Research Labs who has become an expert practitioner

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of subliminal advertising, which involves inserting

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frames of advertised product into reels of a

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film. I was going to say, back in the 70s and

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80s, this was a bigger thing than I think it

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is today. Everyone was worried about it. There

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was the book Subliminal Seduction, which had

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the naked lady on the ice cube. And then there

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was a movie, famously, They Live, of course,

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is a big one about subliminal images advertising.

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But there was another one before that called

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Looker, which was about... It's weird because

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I get confused with another movie, and it turns

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out they're the same movie. There's subliminal

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advertising, and then there's holographic models.

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They would make 3D maps of the models and use

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them as holograms, which is also a weirdly prescient

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thing these days of using AI -generated images

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of people. But yeah, it was definitely when I

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was a kid, particularly a young preteen and stuff,

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it was like subliminal advertising is going to

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get you. They're just, they're, they're, they're

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manipulating you with these images that you can't

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see, but your mind sees it and you don't realize.

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And it was, it was a bigger deal back in the

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day than it feels like it is now. Like now it's

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like, yeah, whatever. Yeah. It's crazy. So crazy.

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Yeah. It was, it was very, very weird. Um, and

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yeah, so basically he, He basically plays the

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same character. He kind of is. He's a very efficient,

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controlling old jerk. Oh, wait. He was... This

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is his third one, isn't it? I'm getting it confused

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with the football one, too. Yeah. I'm not getting

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it confused, but that's the one I remember. He

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was the blackmailer in that other one, wasn't

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he? Yeah. So, yeah, Mr. Kennecutt, he blackmailed

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Mr. Kennecutt, and then he was in the football

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one. I mean, he was kind of blackmailing the

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victim this time, but he was blackmailing him

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to continue using the guy's services. Yeah. And

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the guy didn't do it. He basically killed him.

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Yeah. And this is, yeah, so this is Robert Culp's

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third of four appearances. So... Okay. We got

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Investigator Brimmer was the first in Death Lens

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of Hand. Most Crucial Game, Paul Hanlon, Bart

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Keppel in this. And then all the way down the

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line in 1990. The ABC series, yeah. Columbo goes

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to college. He plays Jordan Rowe. So we got Robert

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Culp in one more after this. Okay, so Culp ties

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McGowan, because McGowan's in three NBCs and

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he's in one ABC. Oh, cool. So far. That's good.

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Very cool. But yeah, no, this was so much more

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fun than the last episode we did. As far as,

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like, the sheer enjoyment of actually watching

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a Columbo episode. Because no politics. Yay!

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No campaign trail. No voting. Oh, boy. Let's

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see. I thought the salty caviar was going to

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come into more play. It kind of did. No, it did.

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But I thought that... Like, instead of, what's

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the guy's name? Norris. Vic Norris is the guy

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that he's trying to kill. So I thought that he

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was going to basically, and folks, when I say

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this. I'm saying this as of, you know, December

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16th, 1973 terms. So I'm not trying to be sexist

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when I say this. I thought he was going to pull

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a woman's thing and poison the guy with the caviar.

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That's what I thought. I thought the guy was

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going to pass out in the hallway from being poisoned,

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having food poisoning from caviar versus shooting

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him. I mean, but that would be very easy to connect

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him back. Well, true. Obviously. Yeah. But sort

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of the shooting, too. Well, no. Actually, that

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was – I mean even Columbo admits that was clever

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because he had these guns up – he has these .45s

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up on the wall. Yeah. But he has a little doohickey

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that he can stick in the .45 so it shoots a .22.

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Yep. So when they come and they examine his guns,

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it's like, well, these aren't the right guns

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because I guess that also – I'm a little surprised

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that just the little insert got the carbon and

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the scoric and the whatever you call it from

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shooting a gun. None of that got into the rest

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of the gun. Because, you know, ballistics can

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tell if you fired a gun because it's got gun

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powder and burns and stuff. But, yeah, that all

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was in the little thing that he stuck down the

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barrel. And it was the wrong caliber. So it was

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very clever. So the whole thing is he sets it

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up so he's presenting this film that he made

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for the guy. What's the guy's name again? Victim.

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Vic Norris. Vic Norris. Vic Norris' company.

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And he's supposed to be narrating the film on

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stage in kind of the shadows. And he's fed him

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a bunch of Iranian caviar. And I was like, caviar

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from Iran? But apparently Iranian caviar is considered

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the best in the world. Because they're on the

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Black Sea, the Caspian Sea? I don't know. Caviar,

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for those of you who don't know, is fish eggs.

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And it's very salty. The trick is, they don't

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really... They explain it a little bit later,

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but the point is that the caviar is very, very

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salty. And he's also turned up the heat in the

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auditorium. So that the guy – and he's put in

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subliminal images of a cool, refreshing drink

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in the film. So that Norris is kind of like,

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I'm really thirsty, I'm really thirsty, I'm really

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thirsty. So he finally gets up and he goes and

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gets some water from the fountain in the hallway.

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And Keppel – Like Keppel's speech has been recorded

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on a tape player. So he kind of leads his position,

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and everyone thinks he's still on stage and shoots

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him with the gun. So it's a very elaborate scheme,

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but compared to the last one we talked about,

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it seems extremely well thought out. Hello? Yeah,

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I'm here. I'm listening. Yeah. Yeah, it was very

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well thought out compared to the last one. And

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yeah, it could either be the Caspian Sea or the

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Arabian Sea. No, it's the Caspian, man. Okay.

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I didn't realize. I went to an American public

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school. I thought Iran was landlocked. I didn't

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realize it was on a... I was like, caviar from

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Iran? That's crazy! No, it's the other country.

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It's the one to the left of Iran that's landlocked.

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It's the one where, you know, that insane person,

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you know. Oh, well, that narrows it down. No,

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no, no. To the left of Iran. Okay, left isn't

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a geographical. Oh, God. Fine. He was insane.

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Like, you know, in the brain. Fine. I say worse

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things on Saddam. Iraq. So you're talking about

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Iraq? Yeah, Iraq is the landlocked. That's forbid

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now? That's joined Hitler and Germany and Nazi

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that we're not allowed to say that anymore? Jesus.

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Iraq is the landlocked one. It's got a little

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tiny thing that reaches out to the Persian Gulf.

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Tiny being the opposite word there. The point

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being that apparently Iranian caviar is, in fact,

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because I looked that up at the time, I was like,

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Iranian caviar is, in fact, considered one of

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the best, the best caviar in the world. Yep.

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So, points to them for detail. Absolutely. And

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for another good movie with caviar in it, just

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watch Tomorrow... Yeah, Tomorrow Never Dies.

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1997. James Bond. Pierce Brosnan. There you go.

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No, the world is not enough. 1999. Anyway, Columbo.

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My brain's all over the place today. Yeah, this

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one was good. This one was really good. Again,

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Columbo in this. Man. His facial features in

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some of these season three episodes so far. Man,

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what's going on with this guy? Like, he just

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seems like, I don't know what his wife is putting

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in her cooking, but she's putting something in

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her cooking because yikes, dude. Yeah, but we

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also established that he does the shopping. That's

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true. But just because he does the shopping doesn't

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mean that, she can't put the arsenic and old

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lace in the cooking. They put that in the tea,

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by the way, not the food. Yeah, well, you know,

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it is what it is. But yeah, no, absolutely. Absolutely

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enjoyed this one. This one was so fun. And like

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you already said in the last episode, I already

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wrote this down a note. As soon as I heard him

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say it, sorry, I took some of your food. I took

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some of your caviar. I was working late on that

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Hayward case. Yeah. Oh, man. That just warmed.

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Because so far, in three seasons, the way I've

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always described Columbo is every case is a different

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case, even though it's just Columbo. But every

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case is a different play. Every case is a different

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act. Every case is a different scene. It's not

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really like you don't have Brimmer and Hanlon

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and Kepler or Keppel. You don't have those three

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villains coming together and conspiring like

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that would be interesting. But that would never

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happen, obviously. So when I saw that, I was

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like continuity in Columbo. That's amazing. Yeah.

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Do you have it open that you could. Tell who

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wrote the two episodes? Yeah, probably. So, you're

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talking about... I'm talking about the one that

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we just saw. The two that we're talking about

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today. Yeah, yeah. I don't know when they're

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listening to this, but... So, the story for Candidate

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for Crime was done by Larry Cohen. Teleplay...

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It's written up differently because it was done

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differently. Story by Larry Cohen, teleplay by

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Irving Perlberg and Alvin R. Friedman, along

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with Roland Kibbe and Dean Hargrove. So Dean

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Hargrove did part of the teleplay on Candidate

00:17:19.769 --> 00:17:22.970
for Crime. This story, though, the reason why

00:17:22.970 --> 00:17:29.210
this is so good. Three initials. SJC. Can you

00:17:29.210 --> 00:17:33.869
guess? Stephen J. Cannell. Damn straight. But

00:17:33.869 --> 00:17:35.710
there's no continuity there, so that's interesting.

00:17:36.109 --> 00:17:39.009
No, yeah. No, but the people, so I'm just like...

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Yeah, I thought it was like... You could see

00:17:41.349 --> 00:17:43.089
if someone wrote the two episodes, they did a

00:17:43.089 --> 00:17:47.470
nod, but that's not the case. Yeah, there's no

00:17:47.470 --> 00:17:51.650
continuity between the writers, but... Oh, man.

00:17:52.609 --> 00:17:57.589
Yeah. Oh, Stephen J. Connell. I love his work.

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So good. He was 69 when he passed in 2010. Man,

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I miss that guy. This is the kind of writing

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we need in Hollywood now. It'll never happen

00:18:07.470 --> 00:18:09.670
again, but this is the kind of writing we need

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in Hollywood now because it's actually good.

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I don't know that it'll never happen again. I

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think that's a little... Man, let me tell you,

00:18:18.869 --> 00:18:24.130
with this AI stuff trying to take over, they

00:18:24.130 --> 00:18:29.470
want us to not use our brains. Humans might as

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well not have brains anymore. type three words

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into chat gpt and let it just do what it wants

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no thank you i mean at the end of the day i think

00:18:40.609 --> 00:18:42.990
people are gonna i mean either either the ai

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will get better like get really better or people

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just choose people just choose the um the stuff

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actually written by humans i mean that's the

00:18:54.919 --> 00:18:56.940
inexplicable thing that's going on now is why,

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why there isn't a shift or there is the shift

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is so slow. It's like, we're going to make the

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kind of stuff we're going to make for an audience

00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:06.400
that doesn't exist. And okay. Well, curse you

00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:07.640
audience for not supporting the thing that we

00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.859
didn't make for you. Okay. So at the end of the

00:19:11.859 --> 00:19:14.559
day, JCPenney was right. Like the customer is

00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.019
always right. Because not because they're actually

00:19:17.019 --> 00:19:19.039
right. Not because they're correct, but because

00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:24.210
they have the money. And they can choose to spend

00:19:24.210 --> 00:19:27.509
it on other things than your movie or TV show.

00:19:27.950 --> 00:19:31.750
True. And, you know, at the end of the day, these

00:19:31.750 --> 00:19:33.910
guys are going to I'm surprised they've held

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out as long as they have. But so I saw a I was

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so when you I don't you're not on Instagram,

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right? I don't think you are. OK, I just want

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to make sure. So I'm on Instagram. I put photos

00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:56.960
on Instagram. Sometimes I put music to those

00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.480
photos at times, but I pretty much only do photos.

00:19:59.539 --> 00:20:02.140
Sometimes I do video, but it's very rarely that

00:20:02.140 --> 00:20:07.119
I do video. But I will scroll through Instagram

00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:09.839
reels. I will start on somebody that I follow,

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like if somebody posts a reel on Instagram, which

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is essentially a short -form video. They have

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those on Facebook. Yeah, I know. And I will start

00:20:19.500 --> 00:20:22.609
scrolling. And I came across something that I

00:20:22.609 --> 00:20:25.250
don't follow this person and I don't follow their

00:20:25.250 --> 00:20:29.130
whatever. And it was these guys on this podcast

00:20:29.130 --> 00:20:32.609
or whatever. And they said something to the effect

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of why TikTok became so popular because they

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created the for you. feed and they basically

00:20:40.339 --> 00:20:42.700
just told you what you're going to watch they

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didn't give you a choice they weren't allowing

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you to choose your own and my the thing is no

00:20:49.539 --> 00:20:54.019
it didn't work because no i want to choose what

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i want to okay you put this in the terms that

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we all can well i'll put i'll put this in toy

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terms Would you rather go into a toy store and

00:21:08.579 --> 00:21:12.779
have the toy store employee tell you, you can

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buy this toy, that toy, and that toy, or would

00:21:16.299 --> 00:21:18.559
you rather go in and actually choose for yourself?

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I want to choose for myself. I don't want to

00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:26.180
have to be told that I can buy this, this, or

00:21:26.180 --> 00:21:30.660
this. That's stupid. So no, TikTok didn't work.

00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:34.079
I will never install that Chinese software. Sorry,

00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:38.609
not sorry. There are just certain lines that

00:21:38.609 --> 00:21:42.390
I will draw on certain things, and back to the

00:21:42.390 --> 00:21:46.109
writing thing with Mr. Connell here, I love the

00:21:46.109 --> 00:21:49.569
way that he writes stories, whether it's Columbo,

00:21:49.630 --> 00:21:51.430
whether it's A -Team, whether it's whatever.

00:21:52.630 --> 00:21:55.829
He's a good, he was a good storyteller, and I

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wish writing like this would come back. And I

00:22:00.470 --> 00:22:02.009
don't think it's going to come back in my lifetime

00:22:02.009 --> 00:22:06.660
with AI around, because... AI just makes people

00:22:06.660 --> 00:22:17.559
lazy. Anyway. So yeah. Let's see. The tape recorder

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Keppel already set in motion a scheme to make

00:22:21.180 --> 00:22:24.559
it seem that the crime was committed by Norris'

00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:29.480
wife. He tried to set up his... Oh my god. He

00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:32.619
tried to set up his client's wife. Man, he kept

00:22:32.619 --> 00:22:36.180
beating that drum way after. Yeah, he did. Yeah,

00:22:36.180 --> 00:22:39.640
no, I'm not going after her. Yeah, no. No, no,

00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:42.940
no. Yeah, that's the thing. Columbo didn't go

00:22:42.940 --> 00:22:45.740
after the women in either one of the... in the

00:22:45.740 --> 00:22:49.000
last episode or this one. Like, the women were

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not the problem. It was the men that were the

00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:54.779
problem. Well, Columbo rarely goes after somebody

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who's, like, not... I know what you're saying,

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but, like, I... It wasn't even an issue in the

00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:02.559
last one. This one, she was clearly being set

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up, and he figured very quickly that she had

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nothing to do with it. And I absolutely love

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the way that Columbo, again, Columbo is learning

00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:21.960
about the things, and he learns about the subliminal

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cuts, and he creates his own. I thought that

00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:27.040
was so cool that he used it against her. That

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was so good. Absolutely amazing. I particularly

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love the very end when Keppel kind of like loses

00:23:37.420 --> 00:23:40.380
it. You know, it doesn't feel completely berserk,

00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:42.539
but he's giggling and he's laughing. He's like,

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I'm the only guy who could have taught you how

00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:46.500
to do that to get me. And Clem was like, yes,

00:23:46.500 --> 00:23:52.930
sir, you were. Yep. Yep, absolutely. Because

00:23:52.930 --> 00:23:55.170
Columbo is not going to start an argument with

00:23:55.170 --> 00:23:58.329
a guy that's not necessarily – he was under arrest.

00:23:58.410 --> 00:24:02.069
They did say you are under arrest. Officer. But

00:24:02.069 --> 00:24:04.710
he wasn't in handcuffs yet, but it was close.

00:24:04.809 --> 00:24:07.269
They were about to. I don't think Columbo was

00:24:07.269 --> 00:24:09.329
lying. I mean, he got the idea from Keppel's

00:24:09.329 --> 00:24:12.289
book. No, absolutely. No, no, no. I know, but

00:24:12.289 --> 00:24:15.529
I'm saying, like, the thing about this show is

00:24:15.529 --> 00:24:21.230
that the show ends. And we've talked about this

00:24:21.230 --> 00:24:24.539
before. It essentially ends like right before

00:24:24.539 --> 00:24:28.920
you see them being shackled in the bracelets

00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:32.019
or right before they're actually taken out of

00:24:32.019 --> 00:24:34.140
the room or put into the police car kind of thing.

00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:36.660
So not to say that the criminal is going to,

00:24:36.660 --> 00:24:39.380
haha, I'm going to get away from you. Like I'm

00:24:39.380 --> 00:24:44.960
going to run and do something stupid. But I think

00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:48.920
one of the interesting things about, as I've

00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:50.240
talked about, like particularly earlier on when

00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:53.089
we started doing this. is the people that Columbo

00:24:53.089 --> 00:24:56.690
goes after or is pitted up against are generally,

00:24:56.769 --> 00:25:01.869
you know, of a higher rank in society. So while

00:25:01.869 --> 00:25:04.569
they have more necessarily resources to do something

00:25:04.569 --> 00:25:06.890
like, like, you know, it's not like a common

00:25:06.890 --> 00:25:09.710
guy, you know, a kid off the street who, you

00:25:09.710 --> 00:25:10.890
know, obviously is going to make a run for it,

00:25:10.910 --> 00:25:14.009
you know, whereas this, you know, Keppel, where's

00:25:14.009 --> 00:25:15.950
he going to go? You know, what's he going to

00:25:15.950 --> 00:25:18.950
do? He's Dr. Keppel. Like they know who he is.

00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:21.759
There's no sneaking out on an airplane. There's

00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:25.920
no hiding out somewhere. No. And most of these

00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:29.319
people wouldn't, like, part of it is their eliteness

00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:32.420
won't allow them to lay low in, like, a flop

00:25:32.420 --> 00:25:36.099
house or, you know. So there really is no point

00:25:36.099 --> 00:25:39.240
in trying to escape. Yeah, very true. And I imagine

00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:42.460
some of them, again, it's never brought up and

00:25:42.460 --> 00:25:44.259
it's never really dealt with, but some of them,

00:25:44.259 --> 00:25:47.660
you know, probably can afford. Again, this predates

00:25:47.660 --> 00:25:50.329
the O .J. Simpson thing. what, 20, 30 years?

00:25:50.869 --> 00:25:53.930
But they got lawyers. I've always wondered how

00:25:53.930 --> 00:25:57.309
many people fought their conviction, fought their

00:25:57.309 --> 00:26:03.049
prosecution and won. I do know that one of the

00:26:03.049 --> 00:26:07.009
ABC ones that we'll get to someday involves the

00:26:07.009 --> 00:26:10.910
whatever you want to call it, rebooter, involves

00:26:10.910 --> 00:26:15.309
the wife of one of the people that Columbo put

00:26:15.309 --> 00:26:18.660
away. Oh, wow. Very cool. Yeah, that's the rest

00:26:18.660 --> 00:26:21.960
in peace, Mrs. Columbo. Oh, yeah. She wants revenge,

00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:28.400
so she's going to kill Mrs. Columbo. Boy, that's

00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:34.059
crazy. Anything else with double exposure? No,

00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:36.779
it was interesting for me because, again, like

00:26:36.779 --> 00:26:41.460
I said, it's a sign of the times. As you just

00:26:41.460 --> 00:26:45.680
went off on AI and CGP, whatever that thing is.

00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:47.799
At the time, it was subliminal advertising that

00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.740
was going to destroy us all. And now that's kind

00:26:50.740 --> 00:26:52.640
of like, eh, whatever. Now it's the AI that's

00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.599
going to destroy us. You get to be a certain

00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:59.380
age, and it's like everything's going to destroy

00:26:59.380 --> 00:27:03.240
us all. And you start to develop a certain callous

00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.960
in your psyche against the doomsday predictions

00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:12.259
of everybody. You're a little younger than me,

00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:14.339
but we both lived through the possibility of

00:27:14.339 --> 00:27:17.880
nuclear war. which, which, you know, and even,

00:27:17.900 --> 00:27:19.460
even I felt like in the eighties, it didn't seem

00:27:19.460 --> 00:27:23.160
that imminent, but like, um, you're still on

00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.140
people's minds that, you know, humanity could

00:27:25.140 --> 00:27:27.599
just start shooting missiles any minute. Um,

00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.339
now it's, you know, there's just, there's a new

00:27:30.339 --> 00:27:32.500
dooms. You know, now there's a meteor head towards

00:27:32.500 --> 00:27:35.099
us. There's always something that's going to

00:27:35.099 --> 00:27:37.400
take us down. And it was like, okay, look, just

00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:43.160
kill us or get it over with. Like, I'm done freaking

00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.420
out about every little thing that could possibly

00:27:45.420 --> 00:27:49.720
go wrong. Because you can't, there's no way to

00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.079
live. Yeah, there's no way to live. How dare

00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:57.119
we live that way? Oh, boy. Yeah, absolutely.

00:27:57.700 --> 00:27:59.660
All right, folks, I think that's going to do

00:27:59.660 --> 00:28:02.920
it for us. But first, we do have to rate this

00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:13.400
episode. It's easy for me. 4 .5. Wow. Yeah. Enjoyed

00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.500
this way more. Well, yeah. Than the last one.

00:28:16.859 --> 00:28:18.460
You know, this is one that's never been a big

00:28:18.460 --> 00:28:22.339
favorite of mine, but I really did enjoy Robert

00:28:22.339 --> 00:28:28.279
Culp. So I would probably lean towards a 4. I

00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:29.460
also didn't mention there was a second murder,

00:28:29.579 --> 00:28:32.660
which gets completely blown over. Yeah. He kills

00:28:32.660 --> 00:28:34.559
the Projectionist, which Columbo figures out.

00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:38.420
Yeah. The second murders are always weird because

00:28:38.420 --> 00:28:41.140
they rarely really factor into it, and it's like,

00:28:41.180 --> 00:28:45.839
but you killed another person. That's a whole

00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:50.140
separate trial. That's another human life that

00:28:50.140 --> 00:28:54.180
you took. Yeah, I would give it a four for Robert

00:28:54.180 --> 00:28:57.880
Coppola. As I said in the last one, usually you're

00:28:57.880 --> 00:28:59.420
watching for Columbo, but when you have a really

00:28:59.420 --> 00:29:01.420
good guest star, it elevates it. Absolutely.

00:29:02.779 --> 00:29:04.920
All right, folks, I think that's going to do

00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:09.279
it for us. I would recommend this one to people.

00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:13.460
We are looking forward to the next one. The next

00:29:13.460 --> 00:29:20.259
one is Publish or Perish, written by Peter S.

00:29:20.380 --> 00:29:24.039
Fisher. Never heard of that person. It has Jack

00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:29.319
Cassidy and John Chandler. along with Mickey

00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:36.240
Spillane. Yeah. So that's the next one that we'll

00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.460
be doing. That's that. We're going to go to a

00:29:38.460 --> 00:29:40.660
quick ad break and hear some podcast ads, some

00:29:40.660 --> 00:29:42.480
other stuff. We'll come back to close the show

00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:45.480
right after this. Corner says that the victim,

00:29:45.660 --> 00:29:48.059
Norris, was evidently killed by one shot through

00:29:48.059 --> 00:29:50.980
the heart. Small caliber bullet. But he won't

00:29:50.980 --> 00:29:53.680
be certain until we have ballistics report tomorrow.

00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:56.650
Now, everyone's been searched. We're going through

00:29:56.650 --> 00:29:58.210
the building now, looking for the murder weapon.

00:29:59.250 --> 00:30:02.269
It is possible to come in through either of two

00:30:02.269 --> 00:30:04.930
separate entrances, one at the front of the building

00:30:04.930 --> 00:30:07.529
and the service entrance at the rear. Both were

00:30:07.529 --> 00:30:12.069
unlocked. You get all that, Lieutenant? Oh, yeah.

00:30:12.970 --> 00:30:16.130
Yeah, I got every word. Excuse me, I'm a little

00:30:16.130 --> 00:30:17.750
hungry. I missed dinner tonight, working late

00:30:17.750 --> 00:30:21.049
on that Hayward case. No, he's not bad. Warner's

00:30:21.049 --> 00:30:22.829
taking the body away, Lieutenant. All right,

00:30:22.849 --> 00:30:27.890
listen, Sergeant, I'll be right there. Um, I'm

00:30:27.890 --> 00:30:29.789
a little hungry. I missed dinner tonight, so

00:30:29.789 --> 00:30:31.730
I'm just going to grab a few of these canopies.

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liked the 1990s comic book series, The New Warriors?

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Yes, yes, yep. And you know how at the Long Boss

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Crusade we're trying to get the YouTube channel

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going? Yes, also correct. Well, thanks. So...

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How about you and me do a live stream show about

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the new warriors? You've never read the books

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before, and I have them, and so that's a great

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setup. We could give it a catchy name, like Come

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Out to Play. Don't you think that's the greatest

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idea? Sure, sure, sure, Delvin. That's a great

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me dangling off this ledge holding me by only

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one arm? Oh, yeah. Well, you'll get it soon.

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.com. I'm sure your insurance company will cover

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that. No, they won't. No, they probably won't.

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I only got some hard evidence. What is that,

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doctor? I'll be a son of a gun. A calibration

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converter. Cut nicely into a .45 automatic. That's

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why the barrel and the chambers were clean when

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ballistics checked out the gun. That's a lovely

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touch. A converter. I never figured on a converter.

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And one hidden in a lamp. Doc, I would have sworn

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you had a gun hidden in here. And I was trying

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to smoke you out. But I never figured on this.

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A subliminal cut. You used a subliminal cut.

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All right, we are back here inside Studio 2009,

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episode 174. Any final thoughts from you, sir,

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before I run through the closing? No, I enjoyed

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this episode. I think this time around I've appreciated

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Culp more than I did back in the day. So, yeah.

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Very cool, very cool. All right, folks. Thank

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us back in the studio soon. My wife's got no

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head for crying. We go to those who've done a

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movie, she always picks the wrong murderer. I

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want to tell you something. If my wife decided

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to murder me, she could come up with a better

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alibi than you got. Thank you.
