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Hey, hey, hey, it's Chaos Queen here, and you're

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listening to the Geekcast Radio Network. Hey,

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it's Mistress Carrie, and you are listening to

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Studio 2009. It's a funny thing. I don't know

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what has happened. It's a mystery, folks. Dave,

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you got any answers? Hello? Answers to mystery,

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please. Nah, we can get down to business. Well,

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this storm hasn't found its port, right, Dave?

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No. No. No, it hasn't, because this year has

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been anything but lovely but lethal, unfortunately.

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Be publishing or perishing, because holy crap.

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As it was mentioned before in earlier clips for

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the Star Wars stuff that Dave and I have done,

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folks, here at Studio 2009, 2025 has been rough.

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Between my medical stuff, between whatever Dave's

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got going on, hopefully nothing horrible, horrible.

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But life comes before podcasting. I've said that

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for years, and sometimes things get delayed and

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put back. But we recorded season three of The

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Columbo Files months and months and months ago.

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So, yeah, please enjoy that. Anything you'd like

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to say, sir, before we take these people on to...

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everything they want to hear. This is pretty

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commonplace for me, the way I keep pushing and

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pulling and steering at things. One day the whole

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sky is going to light up and it's going to say

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tilt. And that day, sir, is the end of the world.

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Let's hope not. No end of the world. Let's not...

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No world ending calamities,

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please. That's the last thing we need is... World

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-ending calamities. What I will say, folks, is

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that we do have the start of a new thing after

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the Columbo Files. We have, well, not the start.

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Or is it the start? I don't remember. Oh, yeah,

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it must be. The TV show choices. Medium Mayhem

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will continue with TV stuff after Columbo Files.

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But, yeah, we get episode 171 to 178 coming up,

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and that's what's going to be coming up. So enjoy

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those folks up next. Lovely, but lethal. And,

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uh, yeah, so we'll have those here in studio

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2009 and hope everyone's having a good 2025 and,

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uh, yeah. On with the show. I just stopped by

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with some news. I thought you might be interested.

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There's nothing wrong with your podcast player.

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Do not attempt to adjust the volume. Hello and

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welcome back into Studio 2009, only on the GeekCaster

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Radio Network. I'm, of course, TF2 and Mike,

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and joining me once again in the far -flung future,

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as this is episode 171 of the podcast, which

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you'll be hearing sometime at the end of summer

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2025, is that good old Detective Dave Draper.

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Hello, sir. How are you? I'm wishing it really

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was summer 2025. Okay, yeah, we're technically

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recording this. We're recording in the middle

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of February, and it's miserable. It's miserable

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for him. I'm in paradise. Oh, yeah, seven degrees

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is great. That's right. Absolutely. Ladies and

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gentlemen, it is the middle of January, almost

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the end of January 2026. TF2 and Mike from the

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Geekast Radio Network. I'm interrupting myself

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here because... I felt this was the best place.

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And, yeah, we recorded this in February 2025.

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Oh, my God. So these episodes, The Columbo Files,

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Season 3. Very dated, recorded in February 2025.

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Supposed to have aired summer of 2025. A lot

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of things happened in 2025. It is now 2026. Enjoy

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the show, folks. Today we continue on in our

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journey as we put our detective hats on and jump

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back in time with Columbo. These are the Columbo

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files here inside Studio 2009, and we're starting

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at the beginning and going all the way in order.

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We're up to season three. Holy crap. Well, it

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goes quicker now because it seems like there

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are a lot fewer episodes. Yeah, what is there,

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seven or eight in this one? I forget how many

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there are in season three. And folks, I will

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remind everyone where I'm usually watching this

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is Tubi TV, so that's the online source. Dave

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has the Complete Series DVD set, which I still

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need to get at some point. It was weird because

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season three is the only one of the set that

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has a little logo for the NBC Mystery Movie.

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Oh, interesting. Yeah, and otherwise, visually,

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it fits in with all the NBC seasons. But it's

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got that, and then it's got, oh, God. Usually

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I give you a hard time for watching it on Tubi

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and being smug about having the DVDs. Season

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3 also has unskippable ads for all of Universal's

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quality DVD offerings. This is a genre of which

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there were many. Okay. This is your own fault.

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You brought this up. Look, look, I'm hitting

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the button constantly and it's going, nope, you

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can't skip it. I'm like, I don't want Macmillan

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and wife. I don't want Rockford Files. Like,

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why did you show Murder, She Wrote, but you don't

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have an ad for it? Let me out. So this is his

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own fault, folks. And again, as we mentioned,

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even though you're going to hear this in August

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or September of 2025, currently, as we're recording

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this, it is February 2025. And there are rumors

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and speculation and supposedly in terms of service

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agreements through Disney Plus and other streaming

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services that they are going to start putting

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unskippable ads. In ad -free tiers. What the

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fuck am I paying for ad -free service if you're

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going to put ads in them? I don't care what I

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have to pay. I will pay you whatever I have to

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pay. That's the point of me paying. That is the

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point of me paying Disney +, Netflix, Hulu, whatever.

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Insert streaming. Yeah, no, I know, but I'm saying

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you brought up the unskippable ads, which led

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me into this. And the thing of it is, is if I

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am paying – again, using as examples Netflix,

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Disney +, whatever. If I am paying you not to

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have ads, why would you then put – Because there's

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not enough of you. At some point, there's not

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enough people possibly in the world, but definitely

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in America. that like can cover the costs of

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these things that's one of the things that their

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whole brilliant scheme was to switch everything

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to streaming and it don't make no money like

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like you have a finite you have a finite pool

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of people that can you know give you money and

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you get a subscription and at some point you

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raise the price till it's prohibitive which at

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this point disney plus is for me like i'm yeah

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i'm i'm and our season two and i'm out so i good

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yeah go ahead no good I'm just saying like, like,

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like the whole thing is they had the nice model

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with like, you know, broadcast TV and commercials.

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And then they had, you know, like you, you did

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home video and they've screwed all of that up.

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Yeah. With streaming. Yeah. I, yeah, I don't

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mind paying for it. Like Disney plus my next

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Disney plus payment comes out in April. If I

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can pay for something all at once, I will. If

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I can do annual billing, I will. Disney Plus

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is one of the streaming services that allows

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annual billing. That's one fee of – I think that's

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going up to $160. Oh, it went up. Spunky. It

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went up. I know. I know. But I'm saying like

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– I'm telling you, in October, it went up. Right,

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I remember, but I'm saying I think it's going

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up again. That's my thing. Right now, I paid

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last April, April of 2024, I paid $140. Before

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that, I was paying $80 a year. I started doing

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60 or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, absolutely. But for me. I don't mind paying

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$160 one time for 12 months of however many thousands

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of hours of content that that service has. Disney

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Plus usually doesn't remove stuff. It's not Netflix

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because usually most of the stuff on Disney Plus

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they already own. So it's fine. It's not there.

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They're like Netflix when it started. And this

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is a whole other off the topic, blah, blah, blah

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thing. But it's one of those things where we're

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talking about whatever. Well, that's part of

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it was also Netflix was a revenue source for

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everybody else. Yes. And now they're there. That's

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another thing they cut out because they're they're

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they're keeping their own stuff and not selling

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it to Netflix. They've started actually now starting

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giving back stuff back to other streaming services,

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not getting selling. Because you're not arguing

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with me because you're saying, I can watch all

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this stuff for one low price. And it's like,

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do you have any idea how much the Star Wars series

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alone cost? I know. Hundreds of millions of dollars.

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I know. Which is one of the reasons I was always

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carping about, like, Kathleen Kennedy being reckless

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and foolish. Yeah. Because it's like, and then

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you've got the Marvel series. And then, you know,

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it's like. These things are these huge money

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sinks, and they would be money sinks even without

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the hyper -expensive programming. I mean Netflix,

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which is successful, one of the reasons they

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cancel everything really quick is because it's

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money, money, money, money, money, money, money.

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One of the reasons their movies are starting

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to look like sci -fi originals is money, money,

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money. And there's only so many people that are

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going to subscribe to this thing. And once you

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start jacking the prices up, I mean, yeah, okay,

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you're willing to – I understand what you're

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saying, and in a world – Where I had more money,

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and I prefer to pay – I agree. I do prefer –

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I pay my insurance up at once. I pay my real

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estate taxes at once. I like to pay – I like

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to get it out of the way. I don't like to like

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with my monthly bill. I'm always worried that

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I'll forget. I'll put an envelope in the wrong

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place, forget it, and get in trouble. So I like

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to pay everything up front. I like to have everything

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settled. I get that. It's just the – like I don't

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have the money to spend for a service where I

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watch like one show every six months. I understand.

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And most of the time I don't even like them.

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Well, yeah. Acolyte was a little rough. Oh, boy.

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All right, so Season 3, Episode 1. Neither of

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us are lovely, but we always can be lethal. And

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this is lovely but lethal. No weapons required.

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Just science. That's right. Science. Science?

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What time did I get you up this morning, Sergeant?

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About an hour ago, Lieutenant. A kid looked through

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the window there and spotted the body right here.

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Just after daylight. What was this guy, some

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kind of scientist? A chemist. You work for Beauty

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Mark Cosmetics. He must have had two jars because

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we found these smaller pay stubs in the desk

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there. And I also found his bank book in there,

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Lieutenant. And this magazine I found over there

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on the table. What is that, a microscope? Yes,

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sir. And oh, Lieutenant, here's some notes the

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doctor made. You know, I haven't seen one of

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these things since high school. And here's a

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blood stain. The doc seems to think this will

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match up as a murder weapon. However, I haven't

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found any prints. You were sent from behind,

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Lieutenant, by a heavy object. You know, you

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better be careful. Feels like there's some broken

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glass on the floor. Apparently, they broke a

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drinking glass. Anyway, Lieutenant, it's all

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in here. He died from a fractured skull. Excuse

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me one moment, would you, Sergeant? Oh, boy.

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What a way to start this one. What a way to start

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the season off with a cosmetics episode. I mean,

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yeah. I guess for me it was more like, hey, the

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sister from Psycho and Vincent freaking Price.

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Yeah. Like horror movie royalty. And then this

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unknown, obscure little actor who was the victim.

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A guy named... Something... Something Estevez,

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I think. Yeah. Yeah, Estevez, exactly. Martin

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Sheen was the victim. Yeah. Super young Martin

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Sheen. Yeah. Almost didn't recognize him. If

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it wasn't for his voice, I probably wouldn't

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have recognized him other than seeing his name

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in the credits. I'm a fan of Apocalypse Now,

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which is only like five or six years after this.

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So he looks kind of the same in that. Yeah, absolutely.

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But yeah, I mean, Martin Sheen, holy boy. I mean,

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just a bunch of stuff. Like you said, Apocalypse

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Now. Yeah, West Wing, I think, is the big one

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for most people. Yeah, West Wing for TV. But,

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yeah, no, absolutely. Amazing, amazing actor.

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So this one is all about poisoning. Technically,

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in the end, it kind of is, yeah. Well, because

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the cosmetic stuff and the this and the that.

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Well, yeah, like, okay, I was watching it, but

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maybe I missed something. Okay, so the whole

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thing is, Drew Miles runs. Beauty Mark Cosmetics,

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which has been a very successful cosmetics company,

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but it's on the downslope. And her chief inventor

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is kind of a drunk, but has come up with a miracle

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product that will erase wrinkles, at least for

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a little while. Because that's the thing, they

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never do cures, they just do temporary fixes.

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But anyway, it erases wrinkles. And then it turns

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out it doesn't work. And then she finds out that

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his assistant, played by Martin Sheen, has tempered

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with the formula and is kind of offering it to

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her rival, Vincent Price. So she kind of goes

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to him and basically says, what do you want for

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the real formula, you know, to give me the real

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formula? Because he knows, apparently he invented

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the formula. Yes. And he's got one sample that

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works. And he kind of toys with her. He's kind

00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:24.580
of a dick about it. He's like, I want you and

00:15:24.580 --> 00:15:26.299
I want all this money. And then he's like, ah,

00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:30.320
psych. He literally does a psych. Yeah. And then

00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:35.080
she gets mad and clocks them with a giant 1970s,

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you know, microscope. Which has, for some reason

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on the slide, has poison ivy. And I always thought

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that I always thought that she had spiked the

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sample. Yes. um just to get back at her but like

00:15:53.460 --> 00:15:54.840
how could he know that she would steal a sample

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um yeah but like i don't know why he was why

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you would because and later on they established

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that they do use various poisons in the cosmetic

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center although like that's like 1800 stuff that's

00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:09.419
like you had lead -based paint for your makeup

00:16:09.419 --> 00:16:12.899
kind of stuff i don't think they use poison in

00:16:12.899 --> 00:16:16.779
a lot of well i think by the 70s they didn't

00:16:16.779 --> 00:16:19.000
nowadays we've got botox so i kind of got to

00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:23.139
backtrack that And my first thought was arsenic

00:16:23.139 --> 00:16:26.679
and old lace. Well, that had nothing to do with

00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:28.779
makeup, but yeah. No, no, no, but I'm saying

00:16:28.779 --> 00:16:32.419
like arsenic as a poison, arsenic, like female.

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Yeah, the sweet old ladies were poisoning people,

00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:39.500
poisoning their tea. Yeah. And Boris Karloff

00:16:39.500 --> 00:16:42.679
shows up. Yeah. Speaking of horror royalty. Exactly.

00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:44.860
I can't remember if he was really Boris Karloff

00:16:44.860 --> 00:16:47.299
or not. It's been a long time since I've seen

00:16:47.299 --> 00:16:52.000
that movie. Yeah, a long time. I think for me,

00:16:52.100 --> 00:16:56.360
about this episode, what I enjoyed the most is...

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What I usually enjoy the most about Columbo episodes

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is Columbo himself. I didn't care about her.

00:17:03.419 --> 00:17:07.880
I didn't care about the... I don't know. Yeah,

00:17:08.019 --> 00:17:11.039
I like seeing a young Martin Sheen. I like seeing

00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:13.980
Vincent Price, other than him being Vincent Van

00:17:13.980 --> 00:17:17.819
Gogh in Scooby -Doo. I think that's cool. But...

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Because I've seen so many true crime stories

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with this exact same sort of plot about female

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needing to kill somebody over formula, blah,

00:17:29.299 --> 00:17:31.579
blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, eh, this one

00:17:31.579 --> 00:17:36.240
wasn't that. I was more interested in how Columbo

00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:40.559
handled the case than the case itself. Okay.

00:17:41.579 --> 00:17:44.539
That's just the way I felt. No, no, no. I guess

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I have not seen as many. No, I'm not even trying

00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:53.079
to be facetious. To me, I don't remember seeing

00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:55.660
a lot of woman -kills -guy -over -formula stuff.

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I mean, it could just be that I haven't watched

00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:03.980
those kind of shows. I don't know. Yeah, and

00:18:03.980 --> 00:18:09.000
it was one of the classics where he kind of admires

00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:14.299
her. Because, again, the Columbo household is

00:18:14.299 --> 00:18:17.200
kind of almost like... Jessica Fletcher's family

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where, like, everybody's surrounded by this vortex

00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.779
of murder. Because, like, you know, she's in

00:18:22.779 --> 00:18:24.960
all the products that is – presumably his – you

00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:26.599
know, it's weird because he never – he doesn't

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really mention his wife much in this episode.

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No, he doesn't. He's always talking about how

00:18:29.980 --> 00:18:32.059
her products are all over his house. So, I mean,

00:18:32.059 --> 00:18:34.599
maybe Columbo was an early trendsetter. I don't

00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:37.700
know. Maybe. Maybe. So what else did you – Then

00:18:37.700 --> 00:18:39.359
there was a subplot with the creepy – Vincent

00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:42.940
Price's creepy, weird assistant who gets murdered

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by – She she's a secondary murder because she's

00:18:46.390 --> 00:18:49.390
kind of blackmailing Vera Miles. So Vera spikes

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her cigarettes. That was kind of a good sequence

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where she's trying to get alone to meet with

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the assistant. And Columbo was like following

00:18:55.869 --> 00:18:56.950
her. Like, I'll just follow you around. It's

00:18:56.950 --> 00:18:58.849
fine. I'll just follow you around. And she deliberately

00:18:58.849 --> 00:19:01.009
like cuts left into the nude beach. And he's

00:19:01.009 --> 00:19:06.549
like, oh, OK, I'm. That's why I like Columbo

00:19:06.549 --> 00:19:10.819
so much in this is because. He's trying to do

00:19:10.819 --> 00:19:14.160
his normal police. I'm going to say schtick,

00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:17.680
folks, because it's a fictional version of stuff

00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:22.420
here, but obviously detectives and police men

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and women do the following and all that and the

00:19:26.980 --> 00:19:30.319
tailing and everything else. But, like, it's

00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:34.819
just like he's trying to. ingratiate himself

00:19:34.819 --> 00:19:39.740
upon her but also trying to not be a nuisance

00:19:39.740 --> 00:19:44.400
to her and close to the end of this i was like

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wait are they in a film studio i was like what

00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:50.099
in the hell kind of weird i think they were in

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a studio to film like commercials and ads okay

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yeah because when they drive up or they they

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enter the student the the building that is the

00:20:02.990 --> 00:20:06.690
I don't want to say cult, but the farm. Okay,

00:20:07.650 --> 00:20:11.089
speaking as someone who's a bit on the large

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size, the very subtly and sensitively named fat

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farm. Can't get away with that in 2025. No. And

00:20:24.170 --> 00:20:28.170
again, I'm a very large person. So am I. My language.

00:20:28.470 --> 00:20:30.690
That's my word. I'm allowed to say it. Uh -huh.

00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:40.339
Absolutely. But yeah, it's this retreat kind

00:20:40.339 --> 00:20:44.299
of place. But the way that the place is set up,

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to me, I'll have to go back to this episode,

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see if I can get a screenshot to put in the post.

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There's a scene where she walks out into the

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courtyard. Yes. They're doing calisthenics, but

00:20:58.460 --> 00:21:01.019
it's almost like an army camp. Yeah, it's like

00:21:01.019 --> 00:21:04.029
an army camp. But just the way the buildings

00:21:04.029 --> 00:21:06.529
are and the way the whole scene is presented,

00:21:06.670 --> 00:21:09.430
before you see the people, you hear the people,

00:21:09.509 --> 00:21:12.349
but you don't see them yet. It just reminds me

00:21:12.349 --> 00:21:15.910
so much of the Warner Brothers backlot or the

00:21:15.910 --> 00:21:19.210
Paramount backlot. It just reminded me so much

00:21:19.210 --> 00:21:22.950
of a movie studio kind of thing, even though

00:21:22.950 --> 00:21:30.289
they're not in the film business. Let's see here.

00:21:34.009 --> 00:21:37.910
I don't know. The acting was really well done.

00:21:41.009 --> 00:21:43.710
Yeah, you're right. I don't remember as much

00:21:43.710 --> 00:21:47.910
with Columbo mentioning his wife in this one.

00:21:48.390 --> 00:21:51.109
Which is weird because he mentions that her products

00:21:51.109 --> 00:21:54.730
are everywhere. Yeah. But he doesn't really mention

00:21:54.730 --> 00:22:02.359
that his wife has the products everywhere. I

00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:05.160
think he more so means my wife. He doesn't say

00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:07.460
my wife, but he so means that they're all over

00:22:07.460 --> 00:22:10.160
the house. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's, it's clearly,

00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:14.140
I mean, in the mid 1970s, that's the obvious

00:22:14.140 --> 00:22:17.180
impression you're left with in 2025. You know,

00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:20.880
it could mean something else. Good. And it's

00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:24.839
my tasteless joke about that. But, um, just like,

00:22:25.609 --> 00:22:28.789
You know, it's just it's a weird thing to like

00:22:28.789 --> 00:22:30.730
say my wife is really like obsessed with your

00:22:30.730 --> 00:22:35.470
products and. He does mention the wife when they

00:22:35.470 --> 00:22:39.009
had the bit about the pencil. Yeah. When she's

00:22:39.009 --> 00:22:41.289
talking to Martin Sheen, she's making offers.

00:22:41.750 --> 00:22:45.950
She's writing it with a. I actually don't have

00:22:45.950 --> 00:22:47.450
any of this stuff like a pen, like an eyeliner

00:22:47.450 --> 00:22:50.750
pencil, right? Some kind of some kind of makeup

00:22:50.750 --> 00:22:54.130
pencil. I don't know this stuff. And Columbo

00:22:54.130 --> 00:22:57.089
recognizes it immediately. And she kind of dodges

00:22:57.089 --> 00:22:59.089
for a second because she's like, well, that's

00:22:59.089 --> 00:23:03.369
a brunette pencil and I'm a redhead. But her

00:23:03.369 --> 00:23:07.809
little famous beauty mark is penciled in. Yeah.

00:23:08.109 --> 00:23:10.410
Because he sees her next to a picture next to

00:23:10.410 --> 00:23:12.730
the corporate logo picture where she has a beauty

00:23:12.730 --> 00:23:14.329
mark. And he's like, you don't have your beauty

00:23:14.329 --> 00:23:15.809
mark. It's like, oh, I pencil it in. Oh, what

00:23:15.809 --> 00:23:18.029
kind of pencil do you use? The brunette one.

00:23:22.800 --> 00:23:33.220
Yeah, absolutely. That's... Yep. And, yeah, this

00:23:33.220 --> 00:23:39.539
one, I don't know, it just... It was and it wasn't

00:23:39.539 --> 00:23:42.420
my cup of tea. Because, again, for me, it's more

00:23:42.420 --> 00:23:45.940
about how he reacts to everything that's going

00:23:45.940 --> 00:23:49.460
on with the case. And how he's trying to figure

00:23:49.460 --> 00:23:52.119
it out. And when he does eventually figure it

00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:55.839
out, that's the exciting part for me. The actual

00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.859
case itself, like I said already, it's like,

00:23:58.900 --> 00:24:06.500
okay. And I don't get, like, okay, I get that

00:24:06.500 --> 00:24:10.180
she killed him because she wanted the formula.

00:24:11.420 --> 00:24:14.859
But in the long run, what's that going to get

00:24:14.859 --> 00:24:18.069
her? I think she killed him. It was like a wasn't

00:24:18.069 --> 00:24:20.329
it out of like it was a I don't say a crime of

00:24:20.329 --> 00:24:22.569
passion per se, but it wasn't like an because

00:24:22.569 --> 00:24:25.269
I mean, he's he's got the formula in his head.

00:24:25.490 --> 00:24:29.390
Yeah. Like killing him almost like she has one

00:24:29.390 --> 00:24:31.410
sample. And I was going to mention that at the

00:24:31.410 --> 00:24:34.069
very end when the police are closing in, she

00:24:34.069 --> 00:24:36.069
throws the sample like it's like she went through

00:24:36.069 --> 00:24:38.390
all of that and she throws the sample away for

00:24:38.390 --> 00:24:41.839
this amazing miracle product because it's. It's

00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:44.079
her or the, you know, and they still get her

00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:49.240
anyway because of the poison ivy. Exactly. Like,

00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:56.480
it's a lose, it's a lose -lose situation. Well,

00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.920
that crime doesn't pay, sir. Well, no, I know

00:24:59.920 --> 00:25:07.859
that, but like, I don't know. It just. It seems

00:25:07.859 --> 00:25:11.140
like some sort of deal could have been made between

00:25:11.140 --> 00:25:14.819
them or something. Who? Between her and Martin

00:25:14.819 --> 00:25:18.019
Sheen? Yeah. Well, I mean, that was sort of dependent

00:25:18.019 --> 00:25:20.680
on – I don't think he wanted – I think he wanted

00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:24.480
to screw her over. There was a little bit of

00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:26.119
dialogue about how they'd had a relationship

00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:29.339
in the past. Yeah. That, again, was another kind

00:25:29.339 --> 00:25:35.440
of 70s changing times. You know, she's like,

00:25:35.500 --> 00:25:37.119
I have a lot of affairs with young men. Does

00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:38.799
that just does that upset you, Lieutenant? And

00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:41.140
he's wow. You know, his whole thing is you do

00:25:41.140 --> 00:25:42.299
what you want, you know, as long as you're not

00:25:42.299 --> 00:25:44.380
hurting anybody. You're not clobbering people

00:25:44.380 --> 00:25:47.299
with giant heavy microscopes. It's fine. But

00:25:47.299 --> 00:25:49.559
yeah, it was clear. I don't think they could

00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:51.420
have. What I'm saying is I don't think they ever

00:25:51.420 --> 00:25:54.440
could have had a deal like his and his demands

00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:57.480
were like outrageous to begin with. Yeah. And

00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:59.319
then at the very end, he goes, psych, I'm not

00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:00.980
even going to I'm not even going to work with

00:26:00.980 --> 00:26:05.349
you with my demands being met. And then the assistant

00:26:05.349 --> 00:26:08.009
girl tries to do the same thing, like, oh, give

00:26:08.009 --> 00:26:09.369
me these things. And she's like, okay, here,

00:26:09.470 --> 00:26:12.609
smoke this totally not -doped cigarette. Okay,

00:26:12.630 --> 00:26:17.230
crash. Yeah, I knew there was something wrong

00:26:17.230 --> 00:26:19.250
with those cigarettes before she even got in

00:26:19.250 --> 00:26:24.349
the car. You see her after them. Yeah. Yeah.

00:26:26.930 --> 00:26:32.470
I was like, nope, no smoking. You see her after

00:26:32.470 --> 00:26:34.009
them and then you see her swap them out with

00:26:34.009 --> 00:26:37.210
her cigarette. I mean, it's not exactly subtle.

00:26:37.910 --> 00:26:43.849
No, it's not. Which is crazy because, you know,

00:26:43.910 --> 00:26:48.730
it's so hard to find good help these days. Well,

00:26:48.769 --> 00:26:50.549
she wasn't really that good help. She was betraying

00:26:50.549 --> 00:26:55.289
her boss, Vincent Price. That's true. That's

00:26:55.289 --> 00:27:00.140
very true. And that $400 dress was ugly. Remember

00:27:00.140 --> 00:27:02.819
that weird thing with the weird brocade in the

00:27:02.819 --> 00:27:06.799
front? I'm like, $400 for that? Yeah. Or however

00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:09.920
many hundred dollars. It was expensive. There's

00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:14.000
a lot of things. And I've been told in the past

00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:16.079
that I should not be talking about fashion on

00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:19.220
podcasts. But there are a lot of dresses that

00:27:19.220 --> 00:27:24.220
I've seen in the fashion world that are for the

00:27:24.220 --> 00:27:27.279
price that they demand. I mean, the high fashion

00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:30.299
stuff is just ridiculous. Yeah. And then like

00:27:30.299 --> 00:27:35.799
the, yeah, no, that's just a, I don't understand

00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:39.619
it. And that's fine. If you've got, going back

00:27:39.619 --> 00:27:40.940
to what we kind of started with, if you've got

00:27:40.940 --> 00:27:42.720
the money for that and that makes you happy,

00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.519
I guess that's all that really matters. Yep.

00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:49.059
Fashion designers got to eat too. Absolutely.

00:27:51.220 --> 00:27:54.579
Now. I didn't notice this, but Wikipedia has

00:27:54.579 --> 00:27:57.779
a note at the bottom here about supposedly there

00:27:57.779 --> 00:28:01.079
is a, well, there is a sly reference to Psycho

00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:05.740
in which Miles appeared in when Scott claims

00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:09.180
to Columbo that she couldn't even hurt a fly.

00:28:09.279 --> 00:28:13.960
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember hearing that because

00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:16.079
I didn't remember it was Vera Miles was in Psycho

00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:18.869
until this morning. I looked it up. And I was

00:28:18.869 --> 00:28:20.250
like, oh, yeah, she did have that line about

00:28:20.250 --> 00:28:21.869
hurting a fly, which is what Norman says at the

00:28:21.869 --> 00:28:24.329
very – well, what Mother says at the very end.

00:28:25.029 --> 00:28:28.309
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Anything else with

00:28:28.309 --> 00:28:32.690
this one? No, this was – I mean, I guess I liked

00:28:32.690 --> 00:28:35.849
it better than you. It's not a favorite, although

00:28:35.849 --> 00:28:38.990
it was neat to see all the famous people and

00:28:38.990 --> 00:28:46.049
all the – Columbo was good. He was – I don't

00:28:46.049 --> 00:28:50.490
know. He was – Like, it wasn't like a toot in

00:28:50.490 --> 00:28:52.490
black where he was kind of a jerk, kind of felt

00:28:52.490 --> 00:28:55.750
like jerky, but he was a little, I mean, he's

00:28:55.750 --> 00:28:57.430
supposed to be persistent, and that's part of

00:28:57.430 --> 00:29:00.349
his character, but I don't know. Yeah. You said

00:29:00.349 --> 00:29:02.630
earlier that he was trying to ingratiate himself

00:29:02.630 --> 00:29:05.029
with her, and I don't think he ever really did.

00:29:05.809 --> 00:29:10.470
No, but he was trying to. See, he was trying

00:29:10.470 --> 00:29:13.410
to, again, this is just my perception of it.

00:29:13.410 --> 00:29:16.490
Well, and I don't necessarily disagree with your

00:29:16.490 --> 00:29:21.940
perception. So the scene at the end, when she's

00:29:21.940 --> 00:29:27.819
doing this exercise... I've never seen a treadmill

00:29:27.819 --> 00:29:30.880
like she was walking on. And then he was standing

00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.359
on the other one. At first he was standing on

00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.619
the street, or on the sidewalk in the studio

00:29:37.619 --> 00:29:41.500
there. So he was constantly trying to ingratiate

00:29:41.500 --> 00:29:44.519
himself to her. At the same time, he was also...

00:29:45.460 --> 00:29:49.299
Trying to. Not necessarily get her to slip up.

00:29:49.380 --> 00:29:53.920
But trying to. See if she would slip up. Trying

00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:58.680
to see if she would. Make a mistake. And she

00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:02.000
didn't. Until the end obviously. She never really

00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.259
made a mistake. It was just that she had poison

00:30:04.259 --> 00:30:07.500
ivy. That got her. Because she touched the slide.

00:30:07.859 --> 00:30:12.140
Yeah she touched the slide. And we have. We often

00:30:12.140 --> 00:30:15.259
mention folks that. We record two of these at

00:30:15.259 --> 00:30:19.619
a time, and we're recording Season 3, Episode

00:30:19.619 --> 00:30:22.720
1 here, and then Season 3, Episode 2 after this.

00:30:22.940 --> 00:30:26.720
Both of these episodes have criminals hitting

00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:32.039
people over the head with things. Now, I know

00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:36.720
in the 70s things were heavier back then. I know

00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.059
things here. Oh, brother, that microscope. No,

00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:42.480
no, no. I'm not arguing that. I'm not arguing

00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:46.980
that at all. I know the microscope was very heavy.

00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:49.500
I'm not arguing the microscope. What I'm saying

00:30:49.500 --> 00:30:51.920
is when we get to the next episode, when you

00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.619
all hear the next episode, I'm going to argue

00:30:54.619 --> 00:30:58.019
whatever. I think it's a candlestick or something.

00:30:58.140 --> 00:31:02.380
I swear. That was a phone. Okay, whatever. We'll

00:31:02.380 --> 00:31:05.920
get there when we get there. But, like, literally

00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:09.420
the whole – I'll repeat it in the next episode,

00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.460
but I'm going to say it here, too. The next episode

00:31:11.460 --> 00:31:13.380
to me, the whole beginning, the murder part,

00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:17.400
I was like, look, it's this person in the library

00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.559
with the wrench. I was like, this is an episode

00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:24.920
of Columbo with Clue. Like, I was just waiting

00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:28.240
for Professor Plum to show up. Oh, God, I would

00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:30.380
love. I don't think Christopher Lloyd ever was

00:31:30.380 --> 00:31:33.720
on Columbo. He might have been in the ABC run.

00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.579
Maybe. I don't know. We'll find out. We'll find

00:31:36.579 --> 00:31:39.960
out eventually. Eventually. All right. Zero to

00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:41.700
five with half points. What are you going to

00:31:41.700 --> 00:31:45.299
give? What the hell is this one called? Crap.

00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:47.599
Lovely but Lethal, I believe. Yes, yes. Lovely

00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:49.480
but Lethal. What are we giving Lovely but Lethal

00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:51.500
for you? I'm going to give it a 3 .5. I think

00:31:51.500 --> 00:31:54.299
it's a fine episode. It's not a favorite, but.

00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:58.180
i didn't have the issues that you did yeah i

00:31:58.180 --> 00:32:01.359
am going to give it a three which uh for those

00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.680
again just to remind everybody because it's been

00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.220
a while since we've uh done the colombo things

00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:10.539
for the ratings 3 .5 is good it's a mixed bag

00:32:10.539 --> 00:32:13.140
but the good stuff outweighs the bad there might

00:32:13.140 --> 00:32:16.299
be one amazing element or lots of fun moments

00:32:16.299 --> 00:32:19.059
that make the flaws easier to swallow they're

00:32:19.059 --> 00:32:22.680
not deal breakers but they do hold it back and

00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:27.640
for me 3 .0 average meh it's not bad but it's

00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.579
not amazing either nothing really stands out

00:32:30.579 --> 00:32:34.000
and it's forgettable now i think we need to i've

00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.880
said this before and what steve and i have to

00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:37.839
do this event i think we need to upgrade some

00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:42.369
of these uh descriptions but For me, like I said

00:32:42.369 --> 00:32:44.089
at the beginning of the podcast for this episode,

00:32:44.309 --> 00:32:47.789
I only cared about what Columbo was doing in

00:32:47.789 --> 00:32:50.609
trying to solve the crime. I didn't care about

00:32:50.609 --> 00:32:52.309
the crime. I didn't care about the criminal.

00:32:52.710 --> 00:32:56.730
I like seeing the actors who play the victim

00:32:56.730 --> 00:33:00.450
and who play the other, Vincent Price and Martin

00:33:00.450 --> 00:33:02.589
Sheen. I like seeing them, but that's because

00:33:02.589 --> 00:33:06.109
I like seeing those actors in something this

00:33:06.109 --> 00:33:09.099
ancient. It's not that ancient. Well, I mean,

00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:11.819
and for Vincent Price, that's probably later

00:33:11.819 --> 00:33:15.480
in his career. Oh, yeah, true. Very true. Yeah,

00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.880
absolutely. So three and a half and a three out

00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:24.279
of five, not bad. So that's going to do that.

00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:26.640
We're going to head to some quick ads here and

00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:28.700
here, some podcast ads, some other stuff. We're

00:33:28.700 --> 00:33:30.960
going to come back to close the show right after

00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.559
this. Oh, but really, Columbo, look, this is

00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:35.779
one of the biggest businesses in the country.

00:33:36.380 --> 00:33:39.859
I mean, there are literally thousands of chemists

00:33:39.859 --> 00:33:42.779
in cosmetics. Now, why you should come here and

00:33:42.779 --> 00:33:45.240
question me about some unknown, I just don't

00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:52.980
understand. Mm -hmm. See, I gotta pay that. One

00:33:52.980 --> 00:34:01.220
moment. That's it. That's what? Mr. Lang, the

00:34:01.220 --> 00:34:03.960
phone company tells me... That you've only had

00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:05.720
this number for a few months and that it's a

00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.940
private number. Well? Well, I was sort of wondering

00:34:08.940 --> 00:34:12.119
why this Carl Lessing would have it. You see,

00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.380
my office told me that they found this number

00:34:14.380 --> 00:34:16.900
scribbled on a small piece of paper in Mr. Lessing's

00:34:16.900 --> 00:34:19.579
wallet. Well, why the devil didn't you say that

00:34:19.579 --> 00:34:21.880
in the first place? Well, I wanted to make sure

00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.719
first, sir. You see, even the phone company makes

00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:27.559
mistakes and... Inasmuch as this number was the

00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.920
only thing about you that anybody found. Yes,

00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:36.039
of course. I mean, it just never... Wait a minute.

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00:41:42.250 --> 00:41:44.130
Julie, what the heck are you doing? Trying to

00:41:44.130 --> 00:41:46.969
make our spot sound more exciting by adding explosions.

00:41:47.670 --> 00:41:48.929
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00:41:48.929 --> 00:41:50.929
point across with sound effects, not the real

00:41:50.929 --> 00:41:59.809
thing. I'm sure your insurance company will cover

00:41:59.809 --> 00:42:02.190
that. No, they won't. No, they probably won't.

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You know, we pay the highest wages in the business,

00:42:05.230 --> 00:42:07.409
so naturally they come here looking for jobs.

00:42:08.349 --> 00:42:13.269
Shirley, come in here a minute, will you? We

00:42:13.269 --> 00:42:15.030
do know Mr. Lessing was expecting some money,

00:42:15.130 --> 00:42:17.710
and maybe a lot of money. Now, don't get ahead

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of yourself, Lieutenant. I haven't offered anyone

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a job for months. Oh, Shirley. Look, have a look

00:42:25.070 --> 00:42:27.349
here, huh? It's not a very good picture, but

00:42:27.349 --> 00:42:29.090
there was a young fellow in here the other day,

00:42:29.090 --> 00:42:31.829
maybe once before. I didn't have time to talk

00:42:31.829 --> 00:42:39.750
to him. Doesn't look familiar. Lessing? No, that's

00:42:39.750 --> 00:42:43.409
the wrong name. But he was about, well, average

00:42:43.409 --> 00:42:46.269
height and curly hair. It was something like

00:42:46.269 --> 00:42:52.130
Johnson Jefferson, maybe. Oh. Well, you may be

00:42:52.130 --> 00:42:53.610
right, sir, but you didn't ask me to fill out

00:42:53.610 --> 00:42:55.929
a card on him or anything like that. That's all

00:42:55.929 --> 00:42:58.769
that there was. I'm afraid I didn't hear anything

00:42:58.769 --> 00:43:01.289
he said, Lieutenant. I'm very sorry, sir, but

00:43:01.289 --> 00:43:03.230
you see, I'm so busy, I don't have time to notice

00:43:03.230 --> 00:43:06.929
everyone who comes into the office. Why would

00:43:06.929 --> 00:43:09.269
you change his name? If he was already working

00:43:09.269 --> 00:43:13.510
for Vivica. She demands devotion from her handsome

00:43:13.510 --> 00:43:16.389
young men. Oh, I don't mean it in quite that

00:43:16.389 --> 00:43:19.730
way, no. Well, protocol, discretion, who knows?

00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.480
Still can't figure out how he'd get your private

00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:24.860
phone number. Unless he looked at it, Lieutenant.

00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:28.000
Just as you did. All right, folks, we are back

00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:33.380
in episode 171. We are 29 episodes away from

00:43:33.380 --> 00:43:38.179
200. Holy crap. Any final thoughts from you,

00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:41.559
sir, on the first episode of season three of

00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:47.219
Columbo? No, I think I liked it more than you,

00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.760
apparently, but I... I didn't love it. It didn't

00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:53.960
have the pop that a lot of the best episodes

00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:56.639
have. Like I said, I mostly remembered – I forgot

00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:58.960
Vincent Price was in this. I mostly remembered

00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.239
it as the one with Poison Ivy. Yeah. This is

00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:03.679
the episode where I found out that Poison Ivy

00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:06.539
doesn't grow in Southern California. Those lucky

00:44:06.539 --> 00:44:11.219
pricks. I got a real bad – I think during my

00:44:11.219 --> 00:44:13.340
college years I got a real bad case of Poison

00:44:13.340 --> 00:44:17.239
Ivy one time. Oh, that's not good. Yeah. Yeah,

00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:20.639
that's not good. Not good at all. You know, I

00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.980
think it's an interesting start to this season

00:44:23.980 --> 00:44:28.539
for the character. Did we see the car in this

00:44:28.539 --> 00:44:32.820
episode? I think we saw it once. Yeah, we might

00:44:32.820 --> 00:44:35.239
have. It wasn't featured very prominently. Yeah,

00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.260
it wasn't prominent, but I think we saw it once.

00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:43.280
No dog. No dog. No dog, which I don't know how

00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.840
they would have. I had the dog in this one considering

00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:51.619
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00:44:51.619 --> 00:44:53.960
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00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:55.719
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on Facebook at facebook .com slash geekcastradionetwork.

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You can also check out Studio 2009 podcast over

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there as well as the Toy World Order fans group.

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join us next time stop it i just saw okay again

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folks we're recording this in february i just

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saw uh mr uh joshua and i'm doing that on purpose

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because lovely but lethal and lethal weapon and

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rigs and murtaugh and all i just saw him post

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something in there the other day about something

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i forget what it was but anyway uh join us next

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time when dave and i will be discussing season

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three episode two any old port in the storm For

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now, I am TF2 and Mike with... Dave Dibble. You'll

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hear us back in the studio soon. Let me put it

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this way. If you found a little red jar with

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an eight -sided bottom, would you get promoted?

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Just take it easy, lady. Just take it easy. I'm

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taking it easy. As a matter of fact, I could

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offer you a drink and help you search if I weren't

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so furious. No luck yet, Lieutenant. No luck

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at all. Lieutenant, would you please do what

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you have to do and get out of here? How long

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is this going to take? The damnedest case I've

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ever seen. Will you answer me? How long is this

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going to take? I found the poison ivy. That's

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good. Where? In Lessing's place. I know at Lessing's,

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but where? It was in the bottom drawer of a file

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cabinet. The drawer was locked. You were nowhere

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near that drawer. I know. I never opened the

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drawer. Still trying to figure out where I got

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my poison ivy. Poor thing. Still worried about

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your itch. You worried about yours? No. Couldn't

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help noticing, ma 'am, the past few days you've

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been scratching your hand and wearing gloves.

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So? Been out of state recently? No. Neither have

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I.
