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I'm, of course, Chief John Mike. Joining me once
again, as always, is Steve Megatron. Hello, sir.
How are you? Yo. Yo. Today we are concluding
Five -episode arc here inside Christmas in July,
the specialty series covering every Die Hard
film from the first one 37 years ago all the
way up to Die Hard 5 from 2013. Holy crap, we
made it. We did it. We have succeeded. These
are, folks, the definitive Studio 2009 discussions
on the Die Hard franchise. That's all I'm saying.
I'm not saying these are the definitive GCRN
ones. I'm just saying these are the definitive
versions of these movies that Steve and I have
talked about for this specific podcast on our
network. Because heaven forbid I say anything
else. Today, we are closing out with whether
or not it is a good day to die hard. First of
all, 2013 in film. Holy crap. Because, wow. The
only thing I remember from 2013 just offhand
is Iron Man 3. Because I really enjoyed Iron
Man 3. More so for Brian Tyler's musical score
from that film. I liked the film overall, but
it was the musical score. I still listen to that
score. But yeah, 2013 in film, the top 10. The
Hunger Games Catching Fire at number one. Iron
Man 3 at number two. Frozen at number three.
Despicable Me 2 at number four. Man of Steel
at number five. Gravity, which I actually had
to look at that to remember what that was. That's
a Sandra Bullock thing from Warner Brothers.
Monsters University. The Hobbit. The Desolation
of Smaug. Fast and the Furious 6, which, folks,
yes, the Fast and the Furious franchise reviews
with my buddy Sean and I are coming up next.
After this, they will start in episode 146. So
Fast and the Furious 6 came in at number 9, and
Oz the Great and Powerful came in at number 10.
Now, I'm not going to go through the entirety
of the year of 2013, but the coolest thing to
me, when I look up... List of American films
of, and then you put in whatever year it is on
Wikipedia. It gives you the top 10 box office.
And then it lists you per the month, like January
through March, April through whatever. And it
lists all of the films that were released. Like,
just off the top of my head as I'm scrolling
really fast through here. Damn it, I'm scrolling
too fast. The Croods. Olympus Has Fallen. Phil
Spector, G .I. Joe Retaliation. Star Trek Into
Darkness came out in 2013. As Steve inaudibly
gasps and shudders in silence. And then gives
an audible disgusted sigh. What else came out
in 2013? I already mentioned Fast and Furious
6. After Earth came out in 2013. Kings of Summer.
One of the films that actually is only a trilogy
currently right now. One of the ones that I actually
really like is Now You See Me. That first film.
That was pretty good. Yeah, I love that movie.
Those are both good. I haven't seen the third
one yet, but the first two. Well, the third one's
not out. Oh, it's not out yet? I thought it was
out already. Nope. uh world war z came out that
year you know you you've got a whole bunch of
stuff that like when i thought when i saw that
this movie uh this final movie a good day to
die hard came out in 2013 my first thought was
okay besides iron man 3 what else came out in
2013 again this is before i did any research
before i looked at any lists before i looked
at any anything i couldn't think of anything
else They came out in 2013. However, I will say,
A Good Day to Die Hard should have been a summer
movie. I'm not saying it's a summer blockbuster
and we're going to get into the plot and the
story and all this and all that. Whatever. Fine.
But this is not a date movie. It was a crappy
movie. It was released on Valentine's Day. That's
why it bombed. I know. This was released on Valentine's
Day 2013. What is it with Hollywood and studios
releasing these action films? Any action film.
I don't care what kind of. I don't care what
it is. I don't care if it's Die Hard. I don't
care if it's Drop Zone. I don't care if it's
Daredevil because Daredevil was released on February
14, 2003. And I like Daredevil. Don't get me
wrong. I like Daredevil. But I don't understand
why Hollywood has to release these. Why they
bury these action movies on Valentine's Day.
The only thing I can think of is they're trying
to kill it. It's the only logical thing for me.
In this movie's case, I would understand. But,
like, I don't understand why... Okay, unless...
Unless it was, like, a romantic comedy action
film. Yeah. Like, something like the Gerard Butler
or Tom Cruise, you know, those ones that they
did. You know, the action film where they're
kind of like the spy or, you know, whatever.
Well, perfect example is 2005's Mr. and Mrs.
I think it's 2005. Mr. and Mrs. Smith with Brangelina.
That's a spy sort of action, romantic, whatever,
where they're working for opposite ends of the
CIA or whatever, opposite factions of each other,
and they don't know. Kind of thing. So that I
can see. But, like, die hard on Valentine's Day?
I'm dying over here. See, folks? It is a good
day to die hard. Well, it's not even like, you
know, like, yes, Mr. and Mrs. Smith or Night
and Day with Tom Cruise. That was funny. Yeah,
that was funny. Or Date Night with Steve Carell.
Yep. Yep. That's good. Yeah. Even Adam Sandler's
murder mystery, which was like a take on clue
on a cruise ship with him and Jennifer Aniston.
So, I mean, there's all these different ones.
And yet this had nothing to do with it. Yeah,
exactly. So going by our, our, our script here,
did you, okay. So we know Guys Night, amazing
band that came up with the Die Hard song that
we've been quoting in the past three, four movies.
Did you come up with a fifth verse or no? I did
not. Okay, good. Well, I started working on one.
I started writing it, and then I was looking
for inspiration from... I even asked AI about
it, and it was even kind of coming up short just
because... I mean, it came up with something,
but it was like almost trying too hard to make
it work. And I was like, even AI had a hard time
because the movie was that bad. But no, I mean,
I tried to write one and I honestly was looking
at it. I was like, I'd much rather put this effort
towards like another Pirates of the Caribbean
movie. Oh, yeah, absolutely. No, because I mean,
I never even reviewed the fifth one of that when
I did M wire. Yeah. Uh, yeah, exactly. And look,
so this movie is okay. I'm just going to run
down my notes before we even talk about the plot.
I'm just going to take you through my notes and
what my, basically what my thought process was
as I watched this. As I said, and I think I said
this in episode 143, and I think I said it in
episode 144. So the With a Vengeance and the
Live Free or Die Hard. I have, other than the
two trailers that I had sent you, I think, I
had never seen this movie. I had no intentions
of seeing this movie. For me, Die Hard ends with
Live Free or Die Hard. I'd never seen it. It's
2025. It's been 12 years since this movie got
released in theaters and released to the whatever.
So I literally went in on this cold other than
the two trailers and the two trailers. By the
time we record this and release it, it's like
been three weeks since I saw those. I intentionally
did not look at the Wikipedia article, did not
look at the plot, did not look at anything whatsoever
before watching, before clicking play three and
a half hours ago. Literally, and that's the way
I've been doing these, folks, and that's the
way I always do the stuff before I do a Studio
2009 recording. I watch whatever it is, as long
as it's not like a 26 -episode -long television
show. Heaven forbid a show that has 85 episodes
or something. If it's just a movie or whatever,
or a couple of movies, I'll watch it the day
of. So that way it's so fresh in my mind. I'm
just going to run. I was 40 minutes into this
movie and it's all action with a few bits of
dialogue here and there. And then the next line
after that was double crossing daughter. I didn't
even think she was his daughter. Didn't even
realize it. Next note, probably like another
30 minutes in. in all caps, if they fucking have
to go to Chernobyl for period, period, period,
period, period, in all caps, M -U -T -H -A, you
know what that is, mother, in all, motherfucker,
in all caps, exclamation point, exclamation point,
exclamation point. lace eye lowercase it's about
money a thousand periods all caps it's always
about money i'm glad when other than the fact
that and we're going to talk about this a little
bit later but i'm glad no more diehard i'm glad
absolutely glad if they reboot this with new
actors and whatever i'm not showing up Because
they're just going to do the same damn thing.
However, this movie wasn't as bad as I thought
it was originally going into it. Because it's
not, even though it's not something I'd revisit
any time soon, the best parts about this were
the father -son moments between John and Jack.
That's the best thing out of this whole movie
is their interactions. Whether it's a good interaction
or a bad interaction. Like when they first see
each other and their camaraderie and their back
and forth. All of that I love. The rest of this
movie is just action, explosions, and blah, blah,
blah. Yes, your thoughts? Well, I was going to
say this is actually the first original story.
Yeah, but... For Die Hard, the rest of them were
based off of a book, and then they kind of inserted
John McClane and kind of made it work. But this
had mixed to negative reviews from both fans
and critics, while the other films did not. While
the action scenes were praised by even the harshest
critics, many still were dissatisfied with the
story's setup. people were complaining about
Jai Courtney as Jack and, you know, they didn't
really have a chemistry per se, uh, in that Willis
was more of a, you know, supporting character.
He didn't really have a true character like,
you know, Sam Jackson or Justin Long. It was
kind of like, yeah. Um, I, I don't know. I, I,
this film got a three out of five rating. by
some places and it had a 14 % rotten with critics
and 48 % rotten from audiences, which I don't
care about, you know that, but it was funny because
Bruce Willis had signed on to do a sixth diehard
film and it was going to be called die hardest.
Oh no. And this was in 2013. So it was written,
you know, script was written at that time. The
locations for the story were going to include
New York and Tokyo's main settings for that film.
So then it went into pre -production in 2014.
And then in 2015, a prequel sequel titled Die
Hard Year One was announced, which would show
a younger John McClane and Holly in the 1970s.
And then also, you know, take place in present
day. So, you know, in 2018, the project was retooled
under the title, you know, McClane. which would
have incorporated elements of the Year One project.
And then in 2019, the project was taken off Fox's
slate because Disney bought them. And so they
canceled the sixth Die Hard film and are planning
to reboot the series for the streaming on Hulu
at that time. And then it said in 2020, Bruce
Willis reprised the role of John McClane for
a two -minute short film commercial advertising
Die Hard car battery. And then that was it. That
was it. but I know the plan was for that sixth
film was they were going to have, you know, it,
it was going to be diehard year one or McLean
and they were going to have it be the, the conclusion
to the whole series. Like they were going to
totally wrap it, be done, you know, two trilogies,
boom, uh, McLean, you know, Bruce Willis was
going to be in it. And then they were going to
have, they were, they were going to have like
this, this kind of, Japanese plot of sorts where
he was a rookie cop in the 70s and he was trying
to solve some attack on himself. He was severely
wounded and hospitalized for McClain and in the
future or something and then kind of flashing
back and then They were going to do a run -through
part of his history and dealing with everything
else. A lot of different ideas were going to
be in it. They were talking about bringing back
Al Powell and Zeus and his daughter's son, Matt
Farrell, for the current timeline. Then they
were going to use archive footage of Simon Gruber
and then Holly. I would have liked to have seen
them tie it up properly at that point just to
see what they did with it. You know, kind of
because that would have been unique. That would
have had him, you know, dealing with something
that he had happened while he was a rookie cop
and dealing with the fallout of it, you know,
30 plus years later. And so in that instance,
it would have been interesting. But instead we
got like, I don't really need him going out of
the country. Like his whole shtick is like, yeah,
he's grounded in a, in a city. Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. Uh, and, and the thing is now if
they want to, you know, reboot it with, you know,
different actors doing the, the, the roles and
things like that, I, whatever, that's fine. But,
you know, It is what it is, because now he retired
from acting in 2022 because of his he suffers
from FTD, which is a form of dementia. His health
is not good. He's not like on the way out. But
I just saw an article. I'm actually I have it
pulled up here now where he can't basically speak
or read or like he's not doing very well. No,
and I feel horrible for the guy. Yeah, no, I
feel so bad. He's one of my, you know, him and
Arnold are kind of my favorite 80s action stars.
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. I absolutely
love him. I know back in the day, I think it
was on the original MWire, maybe it was on Geekcast
Radio, we did a, what did we do? No, we only
did a Shatner spotlight. uh it was like the very
first episode yeah yeah it was one of the very
first episodes i feel like we should revisit
some of the spotlights of certain actors and
like do their do like our top five favorite films
each or something or top 10 highest grossing
films or something yeah absolutely because you
know i i feel like arnold should have one you
know yeah as well as yeah oh absolutely tom cruise
you know i mean there's so many great i mean
i forgot to include him with the 80s action but
yeah he was a big part of it too yeah absolutely
but yeah no like this movie like i was having
fun watching it i enjoyed it looking at uh at
jai courtney's filmography I had never heard
of this guy, not before this. I'd known about
him, but I've never seen Jack Reacher. I've never
gotten into that world. I know it's a Tom Cruise
thing. The first thing I had seen him in was...
That's not what it was. For some odd reason,
somebody told me to watch Terminator Genisys
from 2015. I forget who told me. It's not that
bad. No, I'm not saying it's bad, but I'm just
saying somebody told me to watch it. I forget
who it was. But I saw him in that as Kyle Reese,
and I thought he was okay. I thought he was a
decent actor. He's not like the best actor in
the world, but I thought he was okay. But just
looking at his filmography, there's not a lot
here. He was in both Suicide Squad movies as...
captain boomerang yeah um wait is that really
what i think it is no it better not be tba war
machine special ops boot camp who faced deadly
force from another world okay he's supposed to
be in something called war machine but every
time i see the name war machine the first thing
i think of is roadie and marvel he was in a movie
this year called dangerous animals. I have no
idea what that is in this movie, specifically
a good day to die hard. He was okay. He's a little
stiff, but his character, I think is supposed
to like Jack McClane is supposed like, dad, what
are you doing here? Get out of here. You're screwing
things up. Like he's supposed to be a little
stiff. And you see the cracks in that stiffness
as the film goes along. Cause you kind of see
lately, again, you're kind of seeing father and
son together again. And you're kind of seeing
like that when they're driving to Chernobyl.
Sleeping. Was. Jet lag. Jeez, when's the last
time we were in a car together? Drive home from
Trenton. And bail you out for that weapons charge.
Yeah. That was the fire thing, right? When you
said South Philly on fire, you mean? If you take
out a second mortgage on the house, then we can
bail. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. It was funny.
We're going to Chernobyl. Yeah. The Chernobyl.
The radioactive joint meltdown. That's the one.
It's not the Chernobyl in Switzerland, right?
With all the skiing and the snow and everything.
You mean Grenoble? No, sorry, we're not going
to Grenoble. And they have to talk to each other
because they're in the same car. They can't just
sit there. Well, they could just sit there, but
you have to cover that time. And they talk about
the time when this, and the time when that, and
whatever. So I kind of like that. But I like
it when they finally get to the point of, hey,
okay, fine, let's team up, let's this, let's
that, and let's do this thing together. Overall,
I enjoyed watching the movie. It's just that
I wanted more from this movie than just another
freaking heist. Oh, I agree with you. I know
that's technically what all of the Die Hard movies
have been since the first one. I get it. But
you've had five movies. You couldn't have done
something a little more with this? They did say,
one of the critics said, They said it was mercifully
shorter than Die Hard 4, which I agree. There
were segments of Die Hard 4 that went on too
long. But they said in a week as bad as this
in the cinema, meaning that there must have been
a lot of crappy movies that came out that week
or that time of year. It is the only new movie
I would have paid to see, is what one of the
reviewers had said. Yeah. So I have the time
links right here for all of them. The original
Die Hard comes in at 2 hours, 12 minutes, and
7 seconds. Second movie is 2 hours, 3 minutes,
and 21 seconds. Third movie, 208, 31. Fourth
movie is 208, 44. And the fifth movie is 1 hour,
41 minutes, and 11 seconds. So it's basically
like 20 -something minutes shorter, 24, 25 minutes
shorter. than the other four movies. And the
funny thing is, it doesn't really show that it's...
Like, to me, I didn't feel like I was here less
time. I didn't feel like this movie went by any
faster than the other ones did. I didn't feel
like... Each one of these scenes, as it progressed,
it progressed at a pace that I felt was decent
for what the film is. It didn't feel like there
were scenes that could have been like, maybe
that's what it was. Maybe they looked at the
script and maybe the script, maybe one of the
original scripts had more scenes that they actually
cut beforehand. And they probably said, Oh, well,
this is going to make the movie too long, or
this doesn't make sense. Or I don't know what
they did in the, in the, behind the scenes, but
this feels like a really tight minute by minute
by minute. go go go go go action action action
action action here's a couple of emotional moments
with father and son here's a couple of emotional
moments that really aren't going to matter in
the end between john and the actual villain of
the beast and that's the problem here i think
is that no offense to the actor but um yeah uh
you ain't no uh You ain't no Jeremy Irons, Victor.
You ain't no Alan Rickman. The villain here just...
There was no big box office villain. That, I
think, is the problem with this movie. There
is no big box office named villain. That's the
problem here. You could still have the same plot.
You absolutely could. Just put... hell put um
oh what's his name put red guardian in here is
the villain jesus something uh what i need to
bring up now because i completely missed this
i i almost went back and re -watched the film
before you jumped on the call for the podcast
recording something i completely missed in the
other two recordings for uh with a vengeance
and die hard for Mary Elizabeth Winstead as the
grown -up Lucy McClain. I didn't see Lucy at
the end of this movie. I don't know where the
hell she was when they went back. It's when they
got off the airplane, she hugged him. Oh, okay.
She was at the very beginning, too. Was she at
the very beginning? Okay. Yes, she was. Yeah,
that's right. Because she dropped him off at
the airport. Right? Yeah, she's like, try not
to make this a big mess. That's yeah. That's
right. Okay. Okay. Okay. I got it. I, but there,
but I did not get to mention Mary. I forgot to
mention Mary Elizabeth Winstead as the adult
Lucy McLean because Mary Elizabeth Winstead is
amazing. Oh yeah. I mean, in general, not just
as Lucy, but just in general. Cause damn her
filmography, something, I don't know if it's
something you'd be how. This is a discussion
for a different day, but how do you feel about
Sky High from 2005? Great. Huh? I like the movie.
Okay, good. 20th anniversary this year. Anyway,
she was Gwen Grayson in that. I remember. She's
married to Ewan McGregor. Yeah, she's married
to Obi -Wan. Yeah, that's the coolest thing is
that Hera Syndulla is married to Obi -Wan Kenobi.
Which makes his, and I know we're not talking
about Ewan, which is so funny because it makes
his story that he always tells about the doors
and about driving his daughters to school. uh
but but about the doors where he's like i will
use the jedi mind trick with the doors and whatever
but but her filmography by herself ab i remember
i think there i think this was an episode of
m wire where i went on a rant about abraham lincoln
vampire hunter it's possible i think there's
an episode that i don't even think i ever saw
it but i think i went on it but anyway so yeah
uh like i mentioned live free die hard Kill the
Messenger. Birds of Prey from 2020. She is...
This shocked me. I can't believe they're in the
processes of doing this. I guess I can, but I
can't because it's so one -shot. You know how
I always talk about how... I mean, I mainly say
this, but I know we've talked about this before,
how everything nowadays is franchise, franchise,
franchise. And there's no single thing anymore.
There's no single film. There's no single this,
single that. Apparently, she is going to be the
character role of Claire Bartel in a new version
of 1992's The Hand That Rocks the Cradle. Hmm.
This is one of the only horror movies that I
actively enjoy and have watched before. The original
version from 1992 starred Rebecca De Mornay,
Annabella Scara, and Ernie Hudson's in it as
the kind of, I'll say disabled, instead of using
retarded, I'll say disabled kind of gardener
guy. And I can't believe they're doing a remake
of that. For television, Mary Elizabeth Winstead
debuted in 1997 as Christy on Touched by an Angel.
She was on Promised Land, Passions. Let's see.
Oh, I need to get that DVD. She was in an episode
of one of my favorite shows starring Eliza Dushku
called True Calling in 2004. She was on Comedy
Bang Bang. She was on Mercy Street. She was on
Fargo. And then in 2023, she made her debut main
role as the live action version of Hera Syndulla
on Ahsoka. And you guys can listen to, I think
it's multiple episodes of my buddy Dave Draper
and I discussing Ahsoka season one and season
two. I don't think we ever did season three.
I forget 12 months of star Wars here inside the
studio. 2009 kind of all runs together for me
sometimes, but yeah, no, I love Mary Elizabeth
Winstead and I love, she's great. Yeah. I love
her as the adult Lucy McClain. That just really
works for me. So cool. But overall, I, like I
said, at the end of the day, I enjoyed watching
this movie. I just. The, I think my two favorite
stunts were the, there was the highway, the,
the, the freeway stunt, the highway stunt where
the, the, where he drives the, the, the, the
truck off the thing where he's driving down,
where he's going down, he's using the other vehicles,
like a ramp, like he's driving off the tall truck.
It's like one of those truck, the, the car carrier
trucks. And he's driving down, driving down.
I like that one. And then the end with the helicopter.
Oh, my God. That helicopter stunt was awesome.
I love that stunt. That was so good. What are
some of your favorite moments? I mean, how he
showed up was pretty funny on its own. He's like,
Dad? He's like, Jack! Jack! What are you doing?
Yeah. He's like, what are you doing? Pull over.
And he's like, oh, why is he here? I don't know.
There were a lot of interesting moments, but
I felt like this was not a diehard film. Yeah,
it was more of just a straight action film. It
could have been anybody in those roles. Yeah.
The only reason why I say it probably couldn't
have been is because he keeps... Other than the
father -son moments between the two of them and
the memories and the this and the that and the
whatever and your mother this and your sister
that and blah, blah, blah. He keeps saying, I'm
supposed to be on vacation. This is supposed
to be my vacation. Blah, blah, blah. It's a very
John McClane thing. Not every character does
that kind of thing. And the other thing is, you
know, this is what we do. This is why we're here.
This is... So, Again, the relationship between
the two of them is why I like the movie as a
die -hard movie. But again, you're absolutely
right. This is the... Out of all five die -hard
movies, this is the less die -hardest of the
die... If that makes any sense, you have die
-hard and that... That one is obviously the cream
of the crop for everybody. You got the second
one. That one's okay. You got the third one.
That one's kind of like also at the very tip
top. You got the fourth. If I was to sit here
and rank them, and we can both do this, I would
probably put, and this is just me personally,
I would probably put it at... Uh, let's see here.
Where did I put these things? Yeah, that's my
favorite. Yeah. So we're not going to grow any
third arms or anything, are we? Nah. You might
lose your hair. Ha! Laugh it up, kid. This is
you five years from now. Alright, so going down,
number five to number one. Good Day to Die Hard
is in last place. Because it's... It has diehard
moments, but I think they focused more on, hey,
let's have a movie with all the explosions and
all the car crashes and all of this. And don't
get me wrong. I like explosions. I like car crashes.
I like plane crashes. I like when helicopters
go exploding into buildings and all that and
whatever else. But it's the least diehardiest
of all the diehards. I will put live free at
number four. I will put the second movie at number
three, me personally, because I don't watch it
as much. I would not watch it as much as I would
watch the other one. The original diehard for
me personally goes at number two and then, and
then vengeance goes at number one. That's how
I would rank all five for me personally. And
I know you'd probably switch one and two. Yeah,
I'd probably have one as number one, and then
I'd have probably three, four, two, and five.
I only put two towards the end, not because I
dislike it, but because I like the other two
more. So you'd have two at number four. And it's
not a reflection of the film being bad. It's
just I prefer... 1, 3, and 4 more. And I saw
4 before I saw 2, so it holds a different place.
Yeah, but if they do reboot... For me, it all
comes down to whatever trailer anyone puts out.
Once I see a trailer, that's how I make my first
decision on whether I want to see something or
not. Well, it's like, do they go for it and try
and redo it? I mean, we got Death Wish rebooted
without... you know charles bronson and it was
uh totally different yeah i didn't even know
that they did that well bruce willis was in it
i didn't even know i i knew i didn't watch it
but i knew it wasn't it wasn't very good i'll
just leave it at that It was like the tail end,
because he's been on the decline of crappy movies
in the last 15 years. And again, all of these
franchise things, all of these 80s and 90s things,
Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Death Wish, what else?
Terminator, Lethal Weapon. What else? What else?
What else? Come on. What other action franchises
we got? All of them, all of these stars that
debuted and did all these things, all of them
are getting older. All of them are either retired
or retiring or whatever. This is why, you know,
you know, head against my desk here. This is
why we need new things. This like you can still
have every. Like you just said earlier, this
movie doesn't feel like a diehard movie. This
movie feels like a blank slate action movie.
You can take this plot, take the diehardness
out of it, take McClane's out of it, put any
other character, rename the roles, and make it
a new action movie franchise. You can still use
this plot if the plot isn't the problem. it's
the fact no the plot is the plot like it's it's
gonna be the same no matter yeah the plot yeah
exactly like you know we've had the same plots
for a thousand fucking years of hollywood or
whatever the hell like you know that's fine don't
plug die hard characters into this create new
characters make new eventually at some point
i don't know if it's gonna be probably you and
somebody else. I don't know how many other people
want, maybe it'll be DJ. I don't know the expendables.
How do you feel about the expendables? You know,
I've never actually watched it, but I know it's
a lot of eighties action. Yeah. It's a lot of
the eighties action stars, but they're in unique
roles to them because they're new care. They're
not, they're established characters. Like a slide
plays a character named Barney and they're all
military type guys and things like that. And
they go on these missions. And it's three different
missions. And each film, they add something new
each time. Or they add a new 80s character each
time kind of thing. And there are only three
of them. And I loved them. I thought they were
great for the time that they were in. I thought
it was one of those things where it was a final
last stand for the 80s action stars. And it was
so cool. Because it was a way to get all of these
guys back together in one franchise to see them
all one last time before, heaven forbid, anything
happened. So yeah, I almost said live free or
die hard. A good day to die hard. Zero to five
on the geek meter for GCRN rating scale. I gotta
give it a 3 out of 5. 3 out of 5 on our scale
is like middle ground, I think, if I remember
correctly. Let me go over here to the Geek Meter
and check it out. You too can go to the Geek
Meter on geekcastradio .com and you can see all
of our rankings and ratings and see how exactly
we break everything down. Yeah. So 3 .0 is average.
Meh, it's not bad, but it's not amazing either.
Nothing really stands out, and it's forgettable.
I wouldn't say this is technically forgettable,
because like I said, I like the stuff with John
and Jack as the die -hard characters, and I like
the action, but I like them separately away from
each other, if that makes any sense. yeah what
are you gonna give this one i'll give it a 2
.5 because it's not it's not my favorite at all
i could i could totally leave it and be fine
yep and for those curious again go over to geekcastradio
.com slash geek meter 2 .5 below average bummer
the negatives outweigh the positives not awful
but there's just too much meh to recommend maybe
a redeeming quality or two but overall it leaves
you wanting more absolutely it does it leaves
like the fact that i completely missed the fact
that lucy was at the end of the movie and i thought
i had to go back and i didn't go back and rewatch
it like i said but like yeah like definitely
it leaves you wanting more hell i might change
my rating to 2 .5 honestly uh but yeah no so
um yeah that's uh That's Christmas in July, folks.
All five Die Hard movies here inside Studio 2009.
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this episode, close out Christmas in July for
Die Hard. We do have, unfortunately, some very
sad news. Hulk Hogan has passed away. Man. Sadly.
Yeah, I was like, wait, what? So here's something
that I didn't think was going to be, like, I
didn't think I was going to talk about this.
I saw him when I was six years old. I was just
at a wrestling match with my dad. I don't even
know how close or how far away we were. It was
May 3rd, 1986 at the Providence Civic Center
in Providence, Rhode Island. At the time, I've
mentioned this before, so this isn't revealing
anything too personal or anything else because
y 'all know me. I don't care. Whatever. My parents
divorced when I was two in 1982, so my dad at
the time was living in Providence, Rhode Island.
I saw him and the late, great Junkyard Dog. Junkyard
Dog, another wrestler who had passed away years
and years ago now. They teamed up and faced off
against Terry and Dory Funk. I was at that match
with my dad. I saw Hulk Hogan and Junkyard Dog.
It was just... I don't even, like, I just remember
being there. I remember kind of seeing them.
That's all I remember about it. I don't remember
who did what to who. I don't remember. I'm obviously
sure he said, hey, Hulkamaniacs, you know, let's
Hulk out. You know, I'm sure he did all of his
stuff. But, yeah, no. As of this recording. I'm
going to get this episode out as fast as I can,
folks. But as of this recording, unfortunately,
Hulk Hogan has passed away, and it really, really
sucks. It's like the end of... The middle of
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we're going to take this person, we're going
to take this person. And I'm like, really? Seriously?
Yikes. Just yikes. He died of cardiac arrest.
Oh, damn. But he was at his home in Clearwater,
Florida. Died July 24, 2005. Wow, 2025, Mike.
Come on, get it right. He was 71 years old. Emergency
personnel responded to the scene, and he was
transported from the residence by ambulance.
But yeah, no. I just remember watching him all
the time on TV and stuff. I would always root
for him. I loved watching him versus Andre the
Giant. It was always so fun. I think the most
fun I had watching Hulk Hogan was... In the wrestling
stuff was. Him versus Roddy Piper. Those matches
were always so fun. And the best movie. Even
though it's a cheesy as hell movie. And I might
have to throw it into the schedule. Was I believe
it's 1991. Suburban Commando. Oh my God. That
movie is fun. That movie is so fun and so crazy
and so silly and it shouldn't work, but it is
so fun. So, yeah. Rest in peace, Hulk. Rest in
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I was going to have this as episode 141, so this
has already been recorded. We are starting the
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Originally, it was supposed to be 11 episodes
straight in a row. But between my medical issues
and health and everything else, it's kind of
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