WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.859 Welcome back to Ripe Avocados, excuse me. Today 00:00:03.859 --> 00:00:07.059 we're going to do Wake Up Dead Man, the third 00:00:07.059 --> 00:00:09.679 installation of Knives Out. So if you've seen 00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:11.039 those, you'll know what we're talking about. 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:13.539 A lot of big names in this movie, so let's get 00:00:13.539 --> 00:00:15.400 into it, hear what this thing was about, and 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:37.869 score it. Knives Out 3 is another movie where 00:00:37.869 --> 00:00:41.210 we see Detective Benoit Blanc, aka Daniel Craig, 00:00:41.350 --> 00:00:44.950 on the big screen solving another case. This 00:00:44.950 --> 00:00:49.750 one is in a small town in upstate New York, and 00:00:49.750 --> 00:00:53.409 Monsignor Jefferson Wicks, who is played by Josh 00:00:53.409 --> 00:00:56.829 Brolin, ends up dying during a church service. 00:00:58.270 --> 00:01:01.750 It's seemingly an impossible crime because all 00:01:01.750 --> 00:01:04.390 the people in the church and anyone who would 00:01:04.390 --> 00:01:07.530 have wanted him dead are all out in the open. 00:01:07.629 --> 00:01:11.530 And everyone can see them. And he dies in a little 00:01:11.530 --> 00:01:15.230 box in the corner. And no one knows how he died. 00:01:16.769 --> 00:01:20.909 And Detective Benoit Blanc has to team up with 00:01:20.909 --> 00:01:26.849 Father Judd, played by... I believe it's... Josh 00:01:26.849 --> 00:01:29.469 O 'Connor. Josh O 'Connor, yes. The guy from 00:01:29.469 --> 00:01:34.129 Challengers. From Challengers. Sean's favorite 00:01:34.129 --> 00:01:41.170 movie. Yeah. It's my dream. And Benoit Blanc 00:01:41.170 --> 00:01:44.829 teams up with Father Judd and Mila Kunis, who 00:01:44.829 --> 00:01:49.010 plays a detective in the town. And they have 00:01:49.010 --> 00:01:52.790 to solve who killed Jefferson Wicks and why. 00:01:55.459 --> 00:01:58.920 Yeah, and it becomes pretty convoluted. It's 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:02.959 not a simple answer, as most of these movies 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:06.079 have not been. I don't even really remember how 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.020 Glass Onion played out. That one was kind of 00:02:08.020 --> 00:02:10.860 bad, but obviously Ana de Armas is the culprit 00:02:10.860 --> 00:02:15.379 in the first movie, but it's not as nefarious 00:02:15.379 --> 00:02:18.500 as it leads to be. Well, Chris Evans ends up 00:02:18.500 --> 00:02:22.219 being the one that... Right, right. Ana de Armas 00:02:22.219 --> 00:02:24.479 is the one that... It's been a while since I've 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:26.120 seen that one, but I remember Ana de Armas was 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:28.500 hiding a lot of information, but she really wasn't 00:02:28.500 --> 00:02:31.240 coming from a bad place. Whereas this one kind 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:35.360 of... Those characters are sort of passed on 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:39.080 to Josh O 'Connor. Ana de Armas' character is 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:42.599 a little bit of that same embodiment where most 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:44.740 of the story is told through Josh O 'Connor. 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:49.039 You are very... wrapped up in his life story 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:50.939 they should they give you a biography before 00:02:50.939 --> 00:02:54.620 i loved the opening of this movie yeah the way 00:02:54.620 --> 00:02:59.099 we get the pen to paper and probably what 10 00:02:59.099 --> 00:03:03.500 minutes 15 minutes or so is benoit blanc reading 00:03:03.500 --> 00:03:08.780 that piece of um of of his confession i would 00:03:08.780 --> 00:03:11.840 all i would argue that more than 10 to 15 minutes 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:15.150 of it i would say the first third of the movie 00:03:15.150 --> 00:03:17.750 is almost you learning about these characters 00:03:17.750 --> 00:03:22.530 through josh o 'connor telling benoit blanc about 00:03:22.530 --> 00:03:25.930 all these people because benoit blanc comes in 00:03:25.930 --> 00:03:30.629 like 30 minutes 40 minutes no it's 40 yeah 40 00:03:30.629 --> 00:03:33.889 minutes and he doesn't know what's going on so 00:03:33.889 --> 00:03:35.990 he has to talk to father judd about this and 00:03:35.990 --> 00:03:38.610 is like hey lay out everything you know about 00:03:38.610 --> 00:03:41.870 these people that way i can help you solve this 00:03:41.870 --> 00:03:45.789 case right and the cool piece of that is we have 00:03:45.789 --> 00:03:48.169 josh o 'connor actually narrating it because 00:03:48.169 --> 00:03:50.789 it's just it's through benoit blanc's point of 00:03:50.789 --> 00:03:53.550 view like all these movies are but we're reading 00:03:53.550 --> 00:03:56.870 it in his mind so he's just reading it with his 00:03:56.870 --> 00:03:59.590 voice but i love that because they showed the 00:03:59.590 --> 00:04:03.590 pen not the pen break but the pen stops at one 00:04:03.590 --> 00:04:06.030 point when josh o 'connor pauses in the story 00:04:06.030 --> 00:04:08.849 and then you realize that he's the one writing 00:04:08.849 --> 00:04:12.520 it and that daniel craig is is trying to gather 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:13.960 information about it but I thought that was a 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:18.160 cool little niche way to introduce Daniel Craig 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.439 to the movie because like I said in the beginning 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:23.339 I didn't really know too much of this marketing 00:04:23.339 --> 00:04:26.100 of this movie getting released and I wasn't even 00:04:26.100 --> 00:04:27.579 sure if Daniel Craig was going to be in it but 00:04:27.579 --> 00:04:30.240 I was like he's got to be in this but he's really 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:33.220 taking his time like getting in here and then 00:04:33.220 --> 00:04:36.379 he showed up um but overall man I really like 00:04:36.379 --> 00:04:39.399 this movie I thought it was good In comparison 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:41.639 to the original, I want to say it was pretty 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:45.920 close to that one. But the original always usually 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:49.019 gets that extra nod. So I'm not going to say 00:04:49.019 --> 00:04:51.579 it was better than one. And it's also been a 00:04:51.579 --> 00:04:54.279 little while since I've seen one. For me, it's 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:56.860 definitely not better than one. And I thought 00:04:56.860 --> 00:04:59.720 it would be better than two. But I rewatched 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:03.199 Glass Onion last night. And after rewatching 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:06.519 Glass Onion, I was like, I don't know. This might 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:09.810 be... My third favorite Knives Out movie. I think 00:05:09.810 --> 00:05:12.889 it might go one, two, three for me. As generic 00:05:12.889 --> 00:05:16.709 and basic as that is. Is Glass Onion the tenant 00:05:16.709 --> 00:05:22.230 of Murder Mysteries? Are we going to look back 00:05:22.230 --> 00:05:25.230 on it? Dude, I wouldn't compare Tenet to anything. 00:05:27.269 --> 00:05:30.689 No, I'm a Tenet truther. But I actually, I've 00:05:30.689 --> 00:05:33.490 not gone back and re -watched Tenet. The first 00:05:33.490 --> 00:05:35.730 time I ever saw it, though, I was just ants high. 00:05:36.410 --> 00:05:38.750 the narrative a lot of people hated it but you 00:05:38.750 --> 00:05:40.569 just couldn't hear what they were saying like 00:05:40.569 --> 00:05:42.730 you needed subtitles in theater whatever i'm 00:05:42.730 --> 00:05:45.949 not gonna it's not gonna to ten it but this movie 00:05:45.949 --> 00:05:49.290 again i thought it was good the pieces of it 00:05:49.290 --> 00:05:52.670 that i really liked we still had it still kind 00:05:52.670 --> 00:05:57.209 of told through that same that same uh like frame 00:05:57.209 --> 00:06:00.509 of frame of mind of rian johnson like he's he's 00:06:00.509 --> 00:06:02.389 got his fingerprints all over this it's those 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:06.100 Those silhouette -looking shots that he has in 00:06:06.100 --> 00:06:07.980 here. I'll save some of this for cinematography. 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:12.439 It's always told through this narration style, 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.319 which is very interesting. A lot of talking in 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:17.839 this movie, but I wasn't bored at any point. 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.720 I think Josh O 'Connor was phenomenal, to be 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:23.620 honest. The only other thing I'd seen him in 00:06:23.620 --> 00:06:29.879 was borderline porn in Challengers. That was 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.870 great. A little bit of spoiler for you. Yeah, 00:06:32.930 --> 00:06:34.949 again, that's Sean's favorite movie, so he could 00:06:34.949 --> 00:06:37.490 tell you more about that at a later date probably. 00:06:37.629 --> 00:06:40.509 But this guy, he really impressed me. I thought 00:06:40.509 --> 00:06:44.310 he held it down a lot. Daniel Craig is one of 00:06:44.310 --> 00:06:48.230 the best actors of the generation probably. I 00:06:48.230 --> 00:06:51.509 mean, he doesn't get put in that category, but 00:06:51.509 --> 00:06:53.730 he's just so solid in everything that he's in. 00:06:53.970 --> 00:06:58.389 I think the accent's a little much, but he's 00:06:58.389 --> 00:07:02.339 good. the problem is i think he gets bucketed 00:07:02.339 --> 00:07:05.620 into the quote -unquote like james bond actors 00:07:05.620 --> 00:07:08.759 but the problem is he he added another depth 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:12.980 and level to james bond like he yeah he did it 00:07:12.980 --> 00:07:17.120 better than just oh this guy's a suave spy like 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:21.199 no he added levels of depression anxiety like 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:24.459 other things to the character of james bond which 00:07:24.459 --> 00:07:28.670 made those movies so fucking good uh it's it's 00:07:28.670 --> 00:07:31.649 just hard to not get around that mold like christian 00:07:31.649 --> 00:07:34.910 bale's batman you know he james bond is daniel 00:07:34.910 --> 00:07:38.550 craig to most of our generation so it's hard 00:07:38.550 --> 00:07:40.410 to break down those molds but i think daniel 00:07:40.410 --> 00:07:42.649 craig does a fine job holding this josh brolin 00:07:42.649 --> 00:07:46.649 dude he is on a generational run right now it's 00:07:46.649 --> 00:07:51.009 actually insane His agent is unbelievable. I 00:07:51.009 --> 00:07:52.949 didn't know he was going to be in this movie. 00:07:53.310 --> 00:07:57.069 And when he pops up as Monsignor Wicks, I was 00:07:57.069 --> 00:08:00.290 like, what the fuck? When did he get hair? Yeah, 00:08:00.410 --> 00:08:02.970 he was almost more of a what the fuck than Mila 00:08:02.970 --> 00:08:05.449 Kunis playing the detective. But I'll save that 00:08:05.449 --> 00:08:08.410 for characters. It was a different kind of what 00:08:08.410 --> 00:08:13.149 the fuck. Yeah, yeah. Anything else entertainment 00:08:13.149 --> 00:08:18.420 -wise? Like, this suspense was good. I was hooked. 00:08:18.540 --> 00:08:22.160 I did not figure it out really until the end. 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.459 I thought that there was something fishy going 00:08:24.459 --> 00:08:29.639 on with the... What was the woman's name? Martha, 00:08:30.019 --> 00:08:32.700 right? Yeah, I thought Martha was a little fishy 00:08:32.700 --> 00:08:35.559 from the beginning. And Jeremy Renner was also 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:38.279 kind of fishy from the beginning. He was sort 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:42.600 of looking very anxious the whole time. I thought 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:45.539 they could have maybe hid a bit of those pieces. 00:08:46.220 --> 00:08:49.639 bit more for me yeah because once it started 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:52.600 to unravel it wasn't a big shock to me at the 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.779 very end but nonetheless it all made sense the 00:08:55.779 --> 00:08:58.799 motive all made sense and the climax of the movie 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:03.639 when josh brolin does like a jesus christ impersonation 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.080 or they make it seem that way that was very interesting 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:10.720 and at that point i was a little confused yes 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:15.990 but no it wasn't that twist It just wasn't like 00:09:15.990 --> 00:09:20.850 that. Yeah, the twist in this movie didn't hit 00:09:20.850 --> 00:09:23.830 as hard as it did in the original Knives Out 00:09:23.830 --> 00:09:28.090 or even Glass Onion, for me personally. And I 00:09:28.090 --> 00:09:31.590 feel like I don't want to be that guy that's 00:09:31.590 --> 00:09:34.090 like, oh, I was watching the movie in 30 minutes 00:09:34.090 --> 00:09:36.990 and I knew who it was going to be. I had a feeling 00:09:36.990 --> 00:09:41.149 Martha was involved somewhat. I think this movie 00:09:41.149 --> 00:09:45.169 did a great job with... explaining the story 00:09:45.169 --> 00:09:48.629 from front to end though really well like it 00:09:48.629 --> 00:09:50.870 yeah you weren't necessarily watching it for 00:09:50.870 --> 00:09:53.370 the twist i feel like if you're watching and 00:09:53.370 --> 00:09:55.450 paying attention to the movie you can kind of 00:09:55.450 --> 00:10:00.470 see where it's leading but the reason why the 00:10:00.470 --> 00:10:05.070 people did what they did i think was what made 00:10:05.070 --> 00:10:35.440 the movie actually decent in the end For one 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:39.350 second. believe josh o 'connor was the culprit 00:10:39.350 --> 00:10:42.129 when they were really pushing that from like 00:10:42.129 --> 00:10:46.450 minute 50 onward no not i didn't not at all i 00:10:46.450 --> 00:10:49.450 didn't um i mean he just seemed like too pure 00:10:49.450 --> 00:10:52.649 of a soul i will say it caught me off guard when 00:10:52.649 --> 00:10:56.409 as we were talking about in the beginning of 00:10:56.409 --> 00:11:00.570 the movie when it's when uh you're learning about 00:11:00.570 --> 00:11:02.889 all these characters through the lens of josh 00:11:02.889 --> 00:11:05.919 o 'connor as he's like writing this out for detective 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:10.820 blanc when when it finally hits that hard cut 00:11:10.820 --> 00:11:14.460 and detective blanc is like why did you do it 00:11:14.460 --> 00:11:16.860 that caught me off guard when he said that i 00:11:16.860 --> 00:11:18.720 was like whoa wait what are you talking about 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:21.399 why did he do it but then of course they explained 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:23.799 that he was just hiding something to kind of 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:28.000 save the image of josh brolin's character but 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:30.519 there wasn't really a second in this movie where 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:32.840 i thought oh josh o 'connor definitely did it 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:35.159 I mean, everyone's fucking blaming him. That 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:37.039 would have been a crazy twist if it did end up 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:41.039 being him. It would have just turned into a really 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:45.039 mid -movie if it was him. But the one thing I 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:47.120 did like, and this kind of ties into characters 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.360 so we can kind of go over there. I did appreciate 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:52.840 how, despite the plethora of characters that 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.200 we got, I thought there was almost too many. 00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:58.559 They did tell that story in the very beginning 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:02.590 very concisely to where... Again, I could not 00:12:02.590 --> 00:12:05.889 tell you what Kerry Washington's name, Jeremy 00:12:05.889 --> 00:12:08.929 Renner's character's name. I could tell Martha 00:12:08.929 --> 00:12:10.649 because they said her name a bunch of times. 00:12:10.730 --> 00:12:14.090 But we had all these big -time actors and actresses. 00:12:14.090 --> 00:12:17.590 Mila Kunis is in there. Couldn't tell you any 00:12:17.590 --> 00:12:19.590 of their character names. That's why I'm not 00:12:19.590 --> 00:12:21.129 as high on characters. Hey, we had Kaylee Spaney 00:12:21.129 --> 00:12:24.330 in there. Oh, Kaylee Spaney was, yeah. Kaylee 00:12:24.330 --> 00:12:26.429 Spaney is fucking dope. I think she's just a 00:12:26.429 --> 00:12:32.080 very good actress. As you and I both know. Should 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:35.360 have been Ellie. Should have been Ellie. Should 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:39.840 have been Ellie. But, you know, it's the same 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:41.940 type of deal with all of these movies. All these 00:12:41.940 --> 00:12:44.840 characters have some hidden past. They're just 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:48.620 not revealing stuff to Benoit Blanc. And Benoit 00:12:48.620 --> 00:12:51.200 Blanc, he does a good job of just keeping this 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:55.159 thing moving. I just didn't love the characters. 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.340 The only one that really stood out was Josh O 00:12:57.340 --> 00:13:00.220 'Connor. I think he... Was the best one. I thought 00:13:00.220 --> 00:13:05.200 Josh O 'Connor was really good. The only gripe 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:08.720 I had is the fact that he was this up -and -coming 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.059 professional boxer that killed a guy in the ring. 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:14.899 And when he's using the punching bag in the little 00:13:14.899 --> 00:13:17.779 shack, I'm watching him. And look, I have no 00:13:17.779 --> 00:13:21.480 boxing background. But I've watched MMA. I've 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:23.799 watched boxing fights. I was watching him hit 00:13:23.799 --> 00:13:25.860 that punching bag. I was like, this man's never 00:13:25.860 --> 00:13:29.789 thrown a punch in his life. He's standing there 00:13:29.789 --> 00:13:36.210 like, it's like, Oh Jesus Christ. It wasn't, 00:13:36.210 --> 00:13:38.830 it wasn't bad. It wasn't pretty that believable. 00:13:38.870 --> 00:13:43.470 No, it really wasn't. And again, Josh Brolin, 00:13:43.509 --> 00:13:45.929 he he's just on top of the world right now. He's 00:13:45.929 --> 00:13:48.529 probably got the best agent in Hollywood because 00:13:48.529 --> 00:13:53.700 he is just in everything. No, just all the good 00:13:53.700 --> 00:13:57.940 movies. I'm not on IMDb, but I think his last 00:13:57.940 --> 00:14:00.340 three projects are this, Weapons, and Dude 2. 00:14:02.860 --> 00:14:07.779 That's solid. That's solid. That's like a $50 00:14:07.779 --> 00:14:12.139 - $60 million check combined for those three 00:14:12.139 --> 00:14:14.299 movies. So props to you, Josh Brolin. You're 00:14:14.299 --> 00:14:17.879 an awesome actor, too. He does a good job just 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:20.559 kind of playing a dickhead in this one. Not really 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.899 the... I mean, Josh Brolin kind of, he's very, 00:14:25.139 --> 00:14:30.100 he has a, like, he's not typecasted, in my opinion, 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:33.379 whatsoever. He can, we've seen him play just 00:14:33.379 --> 00:14:36.200 sort of a dickhead. In Weapons, he's way more 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:40.440 concise and thoughtful. He's clearly rigid -minded 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:44.100 in that movie, but in this one, he's just kind 00:14:44.100 --> 00:14:47.360 of leading a cult, almost, in this church. And 00:14:47.360 --> 00:14:50.519 some of his sermons, it's like, Jesus Christ, 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:55.610 this guy is. He's reminiscent of some strong 00:14:55.610 --> 00:14:59.970 political figures, it seems like. Yeah, and he 00:14:59.970 --> 00:15:03.549 holds a lot of grudges with his family life. 00:15:04.190 --> 00:15:06.909 And the character makes sense, though. I think 00:15:06.909 --> 00:15:10.590 the character makes sense. He ties deeply to 00:15:10.590 --> 00:15:12.809 all of these people who are just kind of stuck 00:15:12.809 --> 00:15:16.210 in their lives in this small circle. I think 00:15:16.210 --> 00:15:18.330 it was New York, right? Like upstate New York. 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:22.360 Those pieces tied together. I think the characters 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:25.799 made sense. I just wasn't a huge fan of how many 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:28.580 there were. Because it was a lot. A lot to track. 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.340 And they really didn't. They never really made 00:15:31.340 --> 00:15:34.419 it seem like Kerry Washington even did it. No. 00:15:34.460 --> 00:15:37.700 Or like Kaylee Spaney. They were just there. 00:15:38.100 --> 00:15:42.039 Yeah. And also. I can't remember the actor's 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:43.840 name. But I've definitely seen. He plays like 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.080 Moriarty I think in the Sherlock Holmes. Oh yeah. 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:51.059 Andrew. That's. Andrew. Fuck. it's like i should 00:15:51.059 --> 00:15:52.799 know his name i think it's andrew tom andrew 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:57.159 scott andrew scott um he plays i was just watching 00:15:57.159 --> 00:15:59.519 sherlock because it's on disney now great show 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:02.539 i love that show i wish they made more but i 00:16:02.539 --> 00:16:05.179 know they had i know benedict cumberbatch and 00:16:05.179 --> 00:16:08.500 um martin freeman martin freeman both were like 00:16:08.500 --> 00:16:11.600 yeah i don't think it's gonna happen but um yeah 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:15.220 he plays like a new york times bestseller that 00:16:15.220 --> 00:16:19.440 again fell hard and is now just stuck in this 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:22.480 cult and he's basically just like dick sucking 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:26.620 josh brolin the whole time that that scene they 00:16:26.620 --> 00:16:30.740 all are that scene where uh he's confronting 00:16:30.740 --> 00:16:34.980 all of them in that little church group and uh 00:16:34.980 --> 00:16:40.879 carrie washington is like yo like the son or 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:43.759 my apparent son is actually your son and i've 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:48.370 raised him for the past 20 years and josh brolin 00:16:48.370 --> 00:16:52.370 just turns to him he's like ah yes my son and 00:16:52.370 --> 00:16:54.690 then andrew scott's character is just like hey 00:16:54.690 --> 00:16:57.509 man whatever you do it doesn't matter like we'll 00:16:57.509 --> 00:17:00.509 always follow you yeah he doesn't kick shame 00:17:00.509 --> 00:17:04.299 he's like fuck it dude don't even worry about 00:17:04.299 --> 00:17:06.759 it yeah just keep preaching to me just tell me 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:09.460 that i'm gonna be a good author and i'm always 00:17:09.460 --> 00:17:11.680 gonna be a good author so he's basically just 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:14.200 brainwashing these people but again it all works 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:16.119 so so let's move on to the cinematography because 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:19.200 i kind of touched on it before i love the silhouettes 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:22.039 rian johnson's kind of obsessed with these but 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:26.079 it's so good for these whodunits we got the cross 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:29.180 picture when or just like the cross on the wall 00:17:29.819 --> 00:17:32.140 like very symbolic at the beginning and the end 00:17:32.140 --> 00:17:36.519 there's literally no jesus on the wall and no 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:40.559 cross even it's just the no yeah yeah just the 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:42.940 imprint of where it was in the very end we see 00:17:42.940 --> 00:17:44.839 the crosses there and then the jewels hidden 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:49.200 behind jesus because josh roland was literally 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:53.619 sacrificed himself to you know preserve this 00:17:53.619 --> 00:17:57.779 just keep keep people from obtaining the riches 00:17:57.779 --> 00:18:01.660 from his um from his family which is what he 00:18:01.660 --> 00:18:04.380 wanted all along so that was i i think that was 00:18:04.380 --> 00:18:06.279 a nice little touch to the end of the movie it 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:09.039 was very symbolic obviously if you're christian 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:10.900 you you understand the bible you'll probably 00:18:10.900 --> 00:18:12.759 like how that ties in i don't know if you'll 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:14.920 like all the other stuff where he's basically 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:17.819 a heretic just talking nonsense to his congregation 00:18:17.819 --> 00:18:21.220 but that was cool to me but i mean josh brolin 00:18:21.220 --> 00:18:24.099 just wanted the riches for himself really he 00:18:24.099 --> 00:18:26.160 was gonna he was gonna take that money and dip 00:18:27.019 --> 00:18:30.680 That's basically why Martha killed him. No, yeah. 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.680 I'm sorry. I meant Martha is more so the sacrificial 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:36.220 lamb because she's going down in incarceration. 00:18:36.299 --> 00:18:40.099 Or she dies. Yeah. Kills herself. Kills herself. 00:18:40.779 --> 00:18:46.099 Dead. We had a pretty gruesome injury or pretty 00:18:46.099 --> 00:18:49.420 gruesome death to Jeremy Renner at the end. But 00:18:49.420 --> 00:18:53.319 I don't know. I mean, the music is not anything 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:55.759 that stands out. personally to me but i just 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:57.960 think the lighting of some of these scenes were 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:00.839 very cool like when josh o 'connor discovers 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.480 them at the crypt that scene was shot very cool 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:07.079 we just see the one fist like i don't think i've 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:09.160 ever seen that yeah just the fit coming out the 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:12.859 dark knocks him out yeah it looked kind of weird 00:19:12.859 --> 00:19:15.460 but i was into it i think it was was an effective 00:19:15.460 --> 00:19:17.299 way to show that i thought it was a hilarious 00:19:17.299 --> 00:19:20.440 though cut scene where you see what happens and 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:23.799 he's like running up and jeremy renner's talking 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:26.420 to samson and he's like holy shit like we can't 00:19:26.420 --> 00:19:31.819 let him see us he's like okay boom and that guy's 00:19:31.819 --> 00:19:35.140 name is i think thomas church is his last name 00:19:35.919 --> 00:19:39.640 Thomas Hayden Church. He's in Tires. You and 00:19:39.640 --> 00:19:42.140 I have been binging. He's so fucking funny in 00:19:42.140 --> 00:19:45.339 that. He's also Sandman from Spider -Man 3. I 00:19:45.339 --> 00:19:46.839 think those are the only things I've seen him 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:53.119 in. I noticed that when he was in Tires. I'm 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:56.299 sure Tires helped him land this role low -key 00:19:56.299 --> 00:20:00.690 too because he... also plays a very sarcastic, 00:20:00.710 --> 00:20:03.710 whimsical character. He's very funny. Yeah, he 00:20:03.710 --> 00:20:07.109 is. I'd love to see him with maybe a Meet the 00:20:07.109 --> 00:20:09.289 Fockers type movie where he's the dad. I don't 00:20:09.289 --> 00:20:10.630 know, something like that. That would actually 00:20:10.630 --> 00:20:13.130 be really, really good. Yeah, I just think that 00:20:13.130 --> 00:20:16.410 actor's super funny. Alright, so let's do the 00:20:16.410 --> 00:20:21.430 writing. So, not really many plot holes, but 00:20:21.430 --> 00:20:23.069 I don't know if you wrote any down. I didn't 00:20:23.069 --> 00:20:27.119 find any glaring plot holes here. I just think 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:30.759 that it didn't have that many twists, as we were 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:33.619 mentioning before. It just wasn't up to par as 00:20:33.619 --> 00:20:37.740 the other Knives Out movies to me. None of the 00:20:37.740 --> 00:20:41.460 twists really landed for me. I thought the story 00:20:41.460 --> 00:20:46.700 in itself was told really well. And honestly, 00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:51.000 kind of uplifting at parts. I feel like there 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:53.519 were a lot of instances throughout this story 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:56.940 where... You're following Josh O 'Connor's character. 00:20:57.180 --> 00:21:00.880 And, I mean, he's in the pits of hell, no pun 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:03.420 intended, during this whole sequence. I mean, 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:06.259 like, he's painted out to be this murderer. And 00:21:06.259 --> 00:21:09.059 all these people are just harping on him. And 00:21:09.059 --> 00:21:11.660 he's doing everything he can to prove his innocence. 00:21:11.779 --> 00:21:14.680 But there are glimpses throughout this movie 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:17.619 where he realizes that he's kind of losing his 00:21:17.619 --> 00:21:23.019 faith a little bit. And I think... I think they 00:21:23.019 --> 00:21:25.960 do a really good job of like, I mean, they throw 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:28.640 it right in your face. Like the light starts 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:30.640 shining through as he's talking about Jesus. 00:21:30.740 --> 00:21:33.420 It's like, okay, we get it. We get it. But I 00:21:33.420 --> 00:21:36.819 think it was a cool touch that he realizes like 00:21:36.819 --> 00:21:41.400 his true purpose is following his faith. And 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.140 he doesn't want to. Disalign himself with that. 00:21:45.259 --> 00:21:49.299 By you know. Trying to push blame onto others. 00:21:49.420 --> 00:21:52.059 He's really just trying to hold on to his faith. 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:55.619 As much as possible. And I thought that was really 00:21:55.619 --> 00:22:01.220 cool. But again. This didn't have the same pizzazz. 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:05.299 As the other Knives Out movies to me. I agree. 00:22:05.460 --> 00:22:08.500 I mean he's probably. Rian Johnson's probably 00:22:08.500 --> 00:22:11.460 just going for. Quantity over quality at this 00:22:11.460 --> 00:22:13.640 point. I could see him pushing out. you know 00:22:13.640 --> 00:22:15.920 three four more of these i mean i hope they do 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:19.740 i i really like daniel craig as uh benoit blanc 00:22:19.740 --> 00:22:24.519 i think honestly if they keep pumping out these 00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:27.579 movies we could start talking about benoit blanc 00:22:27.579 --> 00:22:31.079 in the same light that we talk about you know 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:33.319 the sherlock holmes and the agatha christie's 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:35.400 of the worlds i know i'm sure there's so many 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:37.460 people out there that will hate that comparison 00:22:37.460 --> 00:22:40.099 and just be like oh no nothing will ever touch 00:22:40.099 --> 00:22:43.279 those but it's like I don't know. We got Hercule 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:46.599 Poirot. We got, we got Sherlock Holmes. Why can't 00:22:46.599 --> 00:22:50.259 we have Benoit Blanc be the next world class 00:22:50.259 --> 00:22:53.940 detective? He reminds me more of the Hercule 00:22:53.940 --> 00:22:57.920 Poirot, or I'm mispronouncing that. I think Sherlock 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:02.880 has, he's, I don't, I won't foresee him taking 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:05.000 over Sherlock. No, no, of course not. There's 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:07.339 an added level there. I think that character 00:23:07.339 --> 00:23:10.960 is just so well developed, but the Agatha Christie, 00:23:11.849 --> 00:23:15.650 Agatha Christie movie spinoffs have been fine, 00:23:16.130 --> 00:23:18.630 but I think these as a whole have just been way 00:23:18.630 --> 00:23:22.829 better. Murder on the Nile or whatever it was 00:23:22.829 --> 00:23:26.069 was god awful. Yeah, that one was god awful. 00:23:26.410 --> 00:23:28.470 I didn't see the one in Venice, The Haunting 00:23:28.470 --> 00:23:31.009 in Venice, but the first one was okay. The Murder 00:23:31.009 --> 00:23:35.650 on the Orient Express. That was okay. But I also 00:23:35.650 --> 00:23:38.430 never read the book, so the ending was a bit 00:23:38.430 --> 00:23:41.839 of a twist for me when it was all of them. Yeah, 00:23:41.940 --> 00:23:45.240 I mean, that's not a terrible comparison, I guess, 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:47.500 at the end of the day. I don't mind just more 00:23:47.500 --> 00:23:49.240 whodunit movies. I think they're just interesting. 00:23:49.420 --> 00:23:52.519 Yeah, I mean, murder mysteries are so good. Like, 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:55.299 I love watching them. Because you're engaged 00:23:55.299 --> 00:23:57.380 the whole time. You're like, who the fuck did 00:23:57.380 --> 00:24:01.279 it? Yeah, I don't think I've seen one or two 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:04.599 where it's centered around a congregation like 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:06.859 this. I think that was one of the first times 00:24:06.859 --> 00:24:10.779 I've seen that rendition of a whodunit. Kind 00:24:10.779 --> 00:24:13.579 of a neat little touch. Alright, let's score 00:24:13.579 --> 00:24:17.339 this. You ready? So, Entertainment, I went 7 00:24:17.339 --> 00:24:22.880 .5. Entertainment, I went 7 .0. Characters, I 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:29.839 went 6 .7. Wow. I hated that. Characters, I went 00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:35.720 6 .0. Cinematography, I went 7 .2. Cinematography, 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:40.809 I went 7 .0. And then... Writing, I went 7 .1. 00:24:41.009 --> 00:24:44.029 Writing, I went 6 .5. This was a solid watch. 00:24:44.130 --> 00:24:48.269 So we got it 6 .9 as our final score here. Go 00:24:48.269 --> 00:24:50.950 watch... Would you recommend it? Yeah, of course. 00:24:51.569 --> 00:24:53.569 Go watch Wake Up Deadman. I mean, you don't even 00:24:53.569 --> 00:24:55.049 have to go to theaters to see it. Just watch 00:24:55.049 --> 00:24:57.750 it on Netflix. It is a long watch. I don't know 00:24:57.750 --> 00:24:59.829 if that bothered you at all, but... I thought 00:24:59.829 --> 00:25:01.890 it was going to when I first turned it on and 00:25:01.890 --> 00:25:03.589 I saw it was two and a half hours. I was like, 00:25:03.650 --> 00:25:06.150 holy shit. But it kept me engaged the whole time. 00:25:06.269 --> 00:25:08.089 And honestly, it didn't feel like two and a half 00:25:08.089 --> 00:25:11.180 hours. No, it didn't. It didn't. I mean, there's 00:25:11.180 --> 00:25:14.640 talking, a lot of talking, some action slash 00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:18.779 obviously there's murder. So if that's up your 00:25:18.779 --> 00:25:21.799 alley, you'll probably like this. Yeah. 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