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Welcome back to Ripe Avocados. Today we're going

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to do Begonia. I think I pronounced that right.

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New movie with Jesse Plemons and Emma Stone and

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a few others. Stavros Halkias, he's becoming

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a big time actor now I guess. So let's jump into

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this one and hear what it was about. So the movie

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Begonia is basically if you took just one of

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the many conspiracy theorists and psychotic people

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you see on Instagram reels or in Reddit threads,

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if you took him and made him even more extreme

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to the point where he will actually act out on

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the things he'll do. And he's dragging along

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his super innocent friend, Donnie, who is just

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has nothing else going in life. And we'll just

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follow whatever Teddy Jesse Plemons character

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says. And they basically kidnap the CEO, Emma

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Stone, of a major pharmaceutical company because

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they believe that she is an alien and trying

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to kill humanity. And the whole movie is. Jesse

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Plemons rattling off the most conspiracy theorist

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sounding arguments the whole time and as a viewer

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you're watching it being like holy shit he's

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literally just torturing Emma Stone this whole

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time shaves her head off bashes her kneecap in

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um and shit starts to unfold more and more throughout

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the story and you're really rooting for Emma

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Stone pretty much the whole time you're like

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Jesus Christ Jesse Plemons is just the craziest

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motherfucker ever until the very end where it's

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revealed that Emma Stone is in fact an Andromeda

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yeah let's get into entertainment here I really

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like this movie I know you did would you say

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this is top movie of the year or top it's it's

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my favorite movie this year I think and I've

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been combing back through my brain the movies

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I've seen this year. There's a couple that pop

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out to me. I really liked Warfare. I thought

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Sinners was good. But I think Begonia takes the

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cake for me. At least right now. I don't know

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what else is coming out this year, but Begonia

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was... We got Avatar. Avatar coming up. That

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could... I could care less. I mean, maybe. I

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don't think it was my favorite movie, but I would

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say it's top five for sure. I like weapons more,

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but I think it was pretty close. Yeah, I knew

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you would. I think it was pretty close to weapons.

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Honestly, similar tone to weapons, too. It's

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not as scary, but it's pretty graphic and violent

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at times, for sure. Oh, yeah. And the only other

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one I might consider more is the one battle after

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another. But honestly, I kind of like this movie

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a little more, I think. Those are my top three

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of the year. But I would still say Weapons was

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my personal favorite. But that doesn't mean this

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movie was poor entertainment -wise. I was glued

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to my seat. No bathroom breaks. It's not that

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long either. I think it's under an hour 50 or

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an hour 55, which was good. But just a very interesting...

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original plot that worked out you know well actually

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not original it's i think it's technically a

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remake an english remake of the south korean

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film save the green planet that was released

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in 2003 okay okay or at least very similar plot

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lines because that movie saved the green planet

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it's about a guy that i think kidnaps his co

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-worker who he believes is an alien or something

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along those lines i've never seen the movie but

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that's what i've read Alright, well, regardless,

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first iteration of Begonia, but it's not a story

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I was familiar with whatsoever. I didn't watch

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the trailer really at all. I didn't know much

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about it. I just knew that Emma Stone was going

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to get kidnapped once I read a short little bio

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on it. But just a lot of stuff to unpack with

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this movie. I mean, there is... The beginning

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is... is almost it's just narrated by jesse plemmons

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and he was so good so good in this movie i've

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always kind of not disliked him i just thought

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he was good not didn't move the needle for me

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in any in any real way i everyone knows he's

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always great in those like certain character

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roles like in game night or in civil war um even

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in that show with elizabeth olsen He plays good

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roles, but I never saw him as, I guess, the lead

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actor. But I think him and Emma Stone, they might

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get Oscar noms for this movie. They definitely

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will. I think Emma Stone and Jesse Plemons were

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the defining roles of the movie. We can talk

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more about them in characters, but I think...

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They made the movie very interesting. There's

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a lot of dialogue in this movie, honestly. There's

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just a lot of confrontation, like torture methods,

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but not really too much torture aside from the

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high voltage scene. He's not really waterboarding

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her. For the most part, she's just in solitude

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and trying to negotiate her way out. And bald.

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Yeah, bald. I mean, it's not like they are kidnapping

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her. They are treating her like a prisoner. Yes.

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And it really just drives this question the whole

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time you're watching it. You're trying to fathom

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whether or not she's actually an alien. And to

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be honest, I kind of assumed she was an alien

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when he originally said this. Because it was

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just so far -fetched. And I didn't really know

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where it was going to go. It leads really into

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Emma Stone's acting ability. She has these really

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coy, odd answers to some questions. And Jesse

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Plemons never is phased by anything that she

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says. He is on his shit from the get -go. And

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he was right the whole time. And I always kind

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of thought he was going to be right in that instance.

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I didn't know how it was going to unravel. at

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all and i think that's why it was such an entertaining

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movie i did not expect the brother or the cousin

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to kill himself i did not expect that whole yeah

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that whole thing to unravel like it did that

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such a such a sad scene too very sad i mean donnie's

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character in itself was such a tragic character

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right like Let's go to characters now. Let's

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just talk about the characters. Donnie, before

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we start glazing Emma Stone and Jesse Plemons

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even more, I want to touch on some of the side

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characters, like Donnie. I thought he was played

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really well. I don't know the actor's name, but

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such a tragic character. Clearly, it's known

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he has some sort of disability, learning disability.

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He's just kind of this innocent soul that is

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dragged along by Jesse Plemons' character. And

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Jesse Plemons puts him through the fucking ringer.

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I mean, he chemically castrates him. He's forcing

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him basically to kidnap Emma Stone and have her

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locked up in the basement, hold a shotgun to

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make sure she doesn't leave or do anything crazy.

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I mean, this kid is being put through the absolute

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ringer. And you just feel so sorry for him. But

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at the end of the day, it's like he just loves

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Jesse Plemons so much, like to a fault, to where

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he will just listen to whatever he says. And

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in the end, that's what gets him to kill himself.

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It's such a sad storyline to see unfold. And

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even when you get to... the end where it is true

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emma stone is an alien jesse plemmons was right

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all along you still don't get that sense of gratification

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because a emma stone and the andromedans end

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up killing the human race anyways the means by

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which jesse plemmons got his answer i mean like

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he was torturing her he had killed and tortured

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and dissected and experimented on numerous other

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people probably regular humans but also apparently

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two other andromedans that he killed like he's

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been doing this for a while now and it's just

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this grotesque method to find this answer that

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he's trying to search for and even if he get

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he doesn't even get the answer at the end he

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fucking blows himself up yeah and i liked how

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that that scene was shot too because i don't

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really think it's i think it's left for interpretation

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this is how i i thought of it does did she actually

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sent him through that portal and his bomb just

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like reacted to it i think that's really what

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happens this is this is what i was thinking too

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because i was trying to figure out why it exploded

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she sends him into the closet and she's already

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backing away So she knows some, she feels that

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something is going to go wrong here. And I think

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what happens is when she ends up going through

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the portal at the end, the teleporter to get

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back to her mothership, that cut scene where

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it's just like, it looks like cells forming.

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It looks very molecular. And then she rises out

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of that liquid goo. It looks like she's reborn

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again. So I think what the teleporter did was

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kind of break all the cells down and then reform

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them in the ship which is what Emma Stone did

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tell Jesse Plemons she's like we can't go both

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go through at the same time or else we might

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merge together on the other side so I think what

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happened was it just broke his body down and

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set off the explosion which is what killed yeah

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that's a good way to interpret it it was a good

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point like she does back away so she knew something

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was going to happen there And yeah, I mean, RIP

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to Donnie. He did not deserve any of that. And

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yeah, I mean, this movie was just very, very

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interesting. Donnie was probably my favorite

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character. The other character that they do touch

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on a lot is their mother, or Jesse Plemons' mother.

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That part, I didn't completely fathom. Let's

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talk through that. So she... I was under the

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impression that she was an Andromedon or an alien,

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which is why she was like levitating or whatever.

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But it just turns out Emma Stone was doing some

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sort of experiment on her and caused her to levitate.

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So she, the pharmaceutical, this is how I interpret

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it. The pharmaceutical company that Emma Stone

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runs was. developing a new drug that they were

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testing on sandy jesse plummet's mother because

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she was coming off opioids or addicted to opioids

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and they were giving her this new drug she was

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a worker to help her out yes except the new drug

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kind of put her into this catatonic state and

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or vegetative state and you see her just lying

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in the hospital bed later in the movie before

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jesse plummet's eyes to serve with antifreeze

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but I think those black and white scenes where

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it's a flashback with Jesse Plemons with his

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mom, especially the one standing outside the

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headquarters with her floating away. I think

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that was more metaphorical to the whole situation.

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It was him like holding on to her like a balloon.

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And you keep seeing her slip out of his grasp.

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So I think it was more just sort of an analogy

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to... This whole idea that these big corporations

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will just, it doesn't matter that their drug

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ended up putting his mother into a vegetative

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state. Like the whole time, Emma Stone's whole

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spiel during that black and white scene is like,

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hey, we will pay for all those services. Don't

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worry about it. And she's feeding him all this

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big pharma bullshit. Exactly. And you see him

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trying to hold on to the balloon. which is his

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mother, but it's just slipping further and further

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out of his grasp. Yeah. I mean, that's a good

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way to put it. I gotta stop doing this motion.

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Yeah, it looks like you're, like, jerking off

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a giant or something. Yeah. I just kind of wish

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they explained that a little more, but I did

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like how it was thrown in there, because for

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a portion of the movie, I was thinking that Jesse

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Plemons was an Andromedan, and his mom was one.

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That's why she was levitating, and he was just...

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not accepting that he was one of them and i i

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don't know i my mind was racing but that's why

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this movie was so good because i could not put

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together the pieces really until the end and

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i love a movie that just makes me think makes

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me want to dive into the reddit threads with

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the conspiracy theorists that jesse plummins

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is i want to dive into those threads and read

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more about what people have to say i think that

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whole spiel on um his his mother and her tie

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-in with the pharma company and Emma Stone is

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just the fact that Jesse Plemons in his mind

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his his reasoning for or the conclusion he came

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to was Emma Stone killed my mother this drug

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killed my mother this company killed my mother

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they don't give a shit about humans and I'm going

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to work out this theory to figure out how this

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lady is so evil and i don't think she can be

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this evil and be a human she has to be an alien

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and i think he came to that conclusion and then

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that is what set this whole track in motion yeah

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it's a good point the you know the mannerisms

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of emma stone too especially after she gets out

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of that ambulance like unbelievable acting she's

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like moving her leg they probably sped it up

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i don't really know how they shot that but She

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just was, you know, I mentioned how she had these

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like kind of odd, very odd reactions to things

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to make it seem like she was chat GBT just talking

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to somebody almost like she opens her mouth really

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wide and react like gasps at something. And she's

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very she's just so good at playing this on like

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I could not figure out if she is just so corporate

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woman like. I am going to work my way out of

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this any way I can. So I'm going to pretend I'm

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an alien and just feed him anything that he wants

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to hear. But then the look in her eye when she

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is seeing that Jesse Plemons is actually on to

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her and having to just try to survive in this

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situation. But she's almost too calm the whole

00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:04.840
time she's captured. She's not ever really that

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worried until a certain... set of things happens

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but even after she's electrocuted and he shoots

00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:17.419
himself in the head she's still compliant with

00:16:17.419 --> 00:16:21.080
jesse plemmons and takes him to the office and

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has this whole intricate plan because i think

00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:26.500
she just knows that i mean she was right her

00:16:26.500 --> 00:16:30.960
her technology and her people are able to her

00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:34.460
alien comrades are able to you know get have

00:16:34.460 --> 00:16:37.799
her back and Wipe out the human race. And she

00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:41.179
gets whatever she wants out of it. I don't know.

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There's just a lot to unpack here. No 100%. And

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I think it all goes credit to. That. As a viewer

00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:52.720
when you're watching it. And you're battling

00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:55.679
within your own mind. Okay is she an alien? Is

00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:58.919
she not? Is Jesse Plemons correct? Is he just

00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:03.879
a fucking psychopath? All credit to Emma Stone's

00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:08.730
acting. But also. yorgos the director that scene

00:17:08.730 --> 00:17:12.210
in the beginning where they show emma stone's

00:17:12.210 --> 00:17:15.710
character getting ready in the morning very regimented

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but then also at the office right at the beginning

00:17:20.309 --> 00:17:25.130
doing that diversity inclusivity whatever uh

00:17:25.130 --> 00:17:28.950
training thing yes exactly and she's literally

00:17:28.950 --> 00:17:32.450
just like she's so on the money in her speech

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But then she can flip out of that any time. And

00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:40.539
I think that just speaks to how, you know, big

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corporations nowadays, they don't give a fuck

00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:46.079
about the little people. They don't give two

00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:48.779
shits about anyone, right? They just try to save

00:17:48.779 --> 00:17:51.240
face and they know how to talk. They know how

00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.980
to bullshit. So throughout this whole movie,

00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:56.779
you can't tell if Emma Stone is tapping into

00:17:56.779 --> 00:17:59.410
that. Or if she's actually afraid for her life.

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Or if she's trying to manipulate the situation

00:18:01.769 --> 00:18:05.829
in her favor so she can get out. Or is she really

00:18:05.829 --> 00:18:09.009
a fucking alien? Who knows? It wasn't for me

00:18:09.009 --> 00:18:14.869
until Jesse Plemons leaves to... I don't know

00:18:14.869 --> 00:18:16.829
why I'm laughing. Jesse Plemons leaves to dump

00:18:16.829 --> 00:18:20.329
antifreeze into his mom's IV and kills her. And

00:18:20.329 --> 00:18:23.069
he comes back and by that time Emma Stone has

00:18:23.069 --> 00:18:27.490
found the secret doorway in his basement. and

00:18:27.490 --> 00:18:30.269
seeing all the people he's killed and the two

00:18:30.269 --> 00:18:34.150
andromedons when he comes back to the house her

00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:38.410
eyes her tone everything shifted for me and in

00:18:38.410 --> 00:18:40.869
that scene i think that's when i really knew

00:18:40.869 --> 00:18:43.849
that she was truly an alien yeah because she

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genuinely seemed i don't even i don't even know

00:18:49.009 --> 00:18:53.690
if the word is scared but just like in awe in

00:18:53.690 --> 00:18:56.069
awe in a good and bad way She couldn't believe

00:18:56.069 --> 00:18:58.769
that Jesse Plemons has gone to the extent to

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figure out if Andromedans were real. She couldn't

00:19:01.390 --> 00:19:03.849
believe that a human had done all these horrific

00:19:03.849 --> 00:19:08.730
things just to figure this out. And, I mean,

00:19:08.750 --> 00:19:11.269
in the end, it was the ultimate reason for her

00:19:11.269 --> 00:19:15.410
ending the human race. Right. I think the natural

00:19:15.410 --> 00:19:18.549
human response to what she saw would have been

00:19:18.549 --> 00:19:20.789
fright or flight. And I get that her ankle was

00:19:20.789 --> 00:19:23.759
all fucked up or her knee. But she's sitting

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there in the basement just waiting for him to

00:19:25.579 --> 00:19:27.779
come back, you know? And she has this time, like,

00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:29.720
he's just biking. I'm assuming it's not that

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far. But, you know, she can... A normal human

00:19:33.700 --> 00:19:36.160
would just try and get out of there and find

00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:40.000
any sort of way to get help. And after she's

00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:41.720
seeing all these bodies, she's not even, like,

00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:44.759
audibly gasping. She's just like, oh, okay. That

00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:46.440
looks like Andromeda. That's what I mean. She's,

00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:50.339
like, in awe of all the research and time he's

00:19:50.339 --> 00:19:54.839
put into. this crazy theory i like she's flipping

00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:57.500
through all the notes and the pictures and whatnot

00:19:57.500 --> 00:20:00.559
it's like she couldn't believe her eyes yeah

00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:02.579
she couldn't believe that in an inferior race

00:20:02.579 --> 00:20:06.150
was able to comprehend all of this and another

00:20:06.150 --> 00:20:09.109
neat thing too is there's only one portion of

00:20:09.109 --> 00:20:11.990
time where she actually goes at jesse plemmons

00:20:11.990 --> 00:20:15.210
for things that a high -powered ceo would do

00:20:15.210 --> 00:20:17.849
to another human to like try and belittle them

00:20:17.849 --> 00:20:20.190
and shit she she calls them like a loser or whatever

00:20:20.190 --> 00:20:22.029
when they're fighting like she's like i'm the

00:20:22.029 --> 00:20:24.289
winner like i'm gonna kill you or whatever but

00:20:24.289 --> 00:20:26.869
she only says that like one time and i think

00:20:26.869 --> 00:20:29.210
the natural human she calls him an echo chamber

00:20:29.829 --> 00:20:33.089
yeah the natural human response initially would

00:20:33.089 --> 00:20:35.630
just be like we're like let me fucking out of

00:20:35.630 --> 00:20:40.069
here and she says that but in an in an alien

00:20:40.069 --> 00:20:42.829
et type of way she's like this is how things

00:20:42.829 --> 00:20:46.009
are going to process all this this and that and

00:20:46.009 --> 00:20:48.569
i chopped it up as yeah i guess she's a corporate

00:20:48.569 --> 00:20:50.190
woman but like i said i just thought she was

00:20:50.190 --> 00:20:52.710
an alien from the beginning because partially

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because you said it was such a good movie so

00:20:54.109 --> 00:20:56.450
i was like this has to be going somewhere and

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we also had the You know, let's get into cinematography

00:21:00.380 --> 00:21:02.480
here. But actually, the one last thing I want

00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:04.559
to say is I think Emma Stone is the greatest

00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:07.980
actress of this generation. I don't think...

00:21:07.980 --> 00:21:11.099
I'd say maybe Emily Blunt. Emily Blunt's great.

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She comes to mind. Meryl Streep, I'm not counting

00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:18.200
her. Emma Stone is so good at acting. You could

00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:22.259
not... The only other... Who else could have

00:21:22.259 --> 00:21:25.339
played that specific role and made this movie

00:21:25.339 --> 00:21:32.210
what it was? Bella Ramsey. Yeah. You know what

00:21:32.210 --> 00:21:35.809
I mean though? I think those dynamics. I agree

00:21:35.809 --> 00:21:39.390
100%. Jesse Plemons too was phenomenal. Such

00:21:39.390 --> 00:21:43.150
a good actor too. Very good. I think the light

00:21:43.150 --> 00:21:46.569
should be on Emma Stone as well. Just because

00:21:46.569 --> 00:21:49.250
she's the biggest name in this movie obviously.

00:21:49.650 --> 00:21:52.410
But Jesse Plemons too. I mean I was rooting for

00:21:52.410 --> 00:21:55.569
him at times. Like when he kills his mom by accident.

00:21:55.750 --> 00:21:59.359
I felt bad for the guy. And he was doing. horrible

00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.019
atrocities the whole time but you're trying you

00:22:02.019 --> 00:22:05.220
can empathize a ton with him it's probably just

00:22:05.220 --> 00:22:08.799
because he's a human you know he doesn't he doesn't

00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:12.200
really want he all he wants is to protect the

00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:14.880
human race that that's like his actual goal he

00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:19.460
has terrible methods and he's not the the smartest

00:22:19.460 --> 00:22:22.339
guy really he just figured something out and

00:22:22.339 --> 00:22:25.220
he was so stubborn on this method which is such

00:22:25.220 --> 00:22:28.140
a human trait that it ended up killing him and

00:22:28.700 --> 00:22:30.920
I think that was just a really realistic way

00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:35.000
to write that. No, 100%. And I think that's what's

00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:37.559
so great about the movie. You're bouncing back

00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:42.559
and forth between the two evils almost. You don't

00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:45.259
want to root for the big corporate head. Nah,

00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:50.119
I'm fucking Team Human. I'm Team Human. Fuck

00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:54.200
you, Ali. Come conquer us. Come conquer us. See

00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:57.309
what happens. hey we'll send lebron james to

00:22:57.309 --> 00:22:59.089
the front line what the are you talking about

00:22:59.089 --> 00:23:05.230
um but no i like you're you're rooting for the

00:23:05.230 --> 00:23:08.410
lesser of two evils here you have this giant

00:23:08.410 --> 00:23:11.630
corporate head but she's being held captive by

00:23:11.630 --> 00:23:14.329
two crazy conspiracy theorists but on the flip

00:23:14.329 --> 00:23:16.970
side like one this corporate hit he's not a conspiracy

00:23:16.970 --> 00:23:19.589
yeah you're right you're right he's just tagging

00:23:19.589 --> 00:23:24.420
along but on the flip side like She runs this

00:23:24.420 --> 00:23:26.680
giant corporation that ends up being the reason

00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:29.380
why Jesse Plemons' mom is in a vegetative state.

00:23:29.819 --> 00:23:34.380
They don't give a fuck about the regular 9 -to

00:23:34.380 --> 00:23:37.799
-5 person. No. At all. But on the flip side,

00:23:37.980 --> 00:23:42.960
Jesse Plemons is a fucking psychopath. Yes, he

00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:48.000
is. 100%. A serial killer, a psychopath. He's

00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:51.539
not a good guy. But then again, he's also had

00:23:51.539 --> 00:23:53.619
such a tragic life. It's like, Jesus Christ,

00:23:53.660 --> 00:23:57.319
you feel bad for him at times. Fucking sexually

00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:02.400
assaulted by Stavros. Yeah. And his mom dying

00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:07.079
or in that vegetative state. He lives in a fucking

00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:12.420
shithole. Right. Like, he's just got the worst

00:24:12.420 --> 00:24:14.789
life ever. It kind of reminded me a little bit

00:24:14.789 --> 00:24:17.289
of True Detective Season 1 when they go to Earl

00:24:17.289 --> 00:24:19.289
Childress' house at the end. There was a lot

00:24:19.289 --> 00:24:22.829
of inklings of that. They're very accustomed

00:24:22.829 --> 00:24:26.769
to the land. They're beekeeping. He has a couple

00:24:26.769 --> 00:24:30.789
odd jobs here and there. And I think they just

00:24:30.789 --> 00:24:34.509
took a lot of time making the setting. I honestly

00:24:34.509 --> 00:24:37.029
think the first thing they had to do was... figure

00:24:37.029 --> 00:24:38.910
out what jesse's character was going to look

00:24:38.910 --> 00:24:41.569
like and they nailed that right on the head those

00:24:41.569 --> 00:24:44.269
two characters just drive the movie her him and

00:24:44.269 --> 00:24:48.230
emma stone's character yeah it's it's 1a 1b yeah

00:24:48.230 --> 00:24:51.829
um let's do cinematography because that was fantastic

00:24:51.829 --> 00:24:56.869
too loved it i mean it's shot kind of like it

00:24:56.869 --> 00:24:59.430
kind of was shot like weapons a lot to me a lot

00:24:59.430 --> 00:25:03.049
of these we had some of these like zoomed in

00:25:03.049 --> 00:25:06.190
2d angles like when he's killing stavros that

00:25:06.190 --> 00:25:09.150
shit was straight out of weapons to me or any

00:25:09.150 --> 00:25:12.150
any sort of these like neon blumhouse uh horror

00:25:12.150 --> 00:25:17.109
movies where it's very quick camera shots it's

00:25:17.109 --> 00:25:20.329
like extremely vibrant colors mixed with like

00:25:20.329 --> 00:25:22.930
this vast landscape kind of that scene kind of

00:25:22.930 --> 00:25:24.690
reminded me of like midsummer a little bit i

00:25:24.690 --> 00:25:26.750
don't know if you got that same connection just

00:25:26.750 --> 00:25:31.579
just gross gore and over the top crazy shit going

00:25:31.579 --> 00:25:34.799
on um when he climbs across the table that was

00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:38.460
shot so well so fucking well it was like what

00:25:38.460 --> 00:25:40.079
is going to happen we're not even going to show

00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:43.059
you emma stone's face until he's attacking her

00:25:43.059 --> 00:25:47.740
yeah um i mean the just the color scheme in general

00:25:47.740 --> 00:25:50.839
i also loved the tie -in with the bees i think

00:25:50.839 --> 00:25:54.180
that was very cool how they wrote that in in

00:25:54.180 --> 00:25:56.759
the beginning they so they do stuff like this

00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:58.920
all the time and it doesn't always connect that

00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:01.750
well So the term begonia, I had to look this

00:26:01.750 --> 00:26:07.210
up. It refers back to Greek mythology where there's

00:26:07.210 --> 00:26:13.890
this belief that if you sacrifice an ox without

00:26:13.890 --> 00:26:21.269
shedding blood and it dies, then bees will basically

00:26:21.269 --> 00:26:25.609
spawn in its body and then be released. So basically

00:26:25.609 --> 00:26:28.869
like the sacrifice. of this animal to birth new

00:26:28.869 --> 00:26:33.410
life and i think jesse's the sacrifice i mean

00:26:33.410 --> 00:26:38.509
i think it i think that term really relates back

00:26:38.509 --> 00:26:41.809
to this whole idea of the andromedans coming

00:26:41.809 --> 00:26:45.029
to earth right and she mentions they accidentally

00:26:45.029 --> 00:26:50.950
kill off the the native race the dinosaurs at

00:26:50.950 --> 00:26:54.779
the time due to the diseases they brought and

00:26:54.779 --> 00:26:57.400
because they felt so guilty, that's why they

00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:00.559
created the human race. And they tried to guide

00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:02.779
it and help them make the right decisions, but

00:27:02.779 --> 00:27:05.099
ultimately they couldn't. So I think in that

00:27:05.099 --> 00:27:08.480
sense, that was their begonia, right? They accidentally

00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.880
sacrificed the dinosaurs, but we will create

00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:15.980
this new race, and it'll be even better. I think

00:27:15.980 --> 00:27:18.700
the problem is they ended up realizing that...

00:27:18.700 --> 00:27:23.019
Humans are not easy. no humans fucking suck yeah

00:27:23.019 --> 00:27:25.099
humans are not easy to govern they i mean they

00:27:25.099 --> 00:27:28.099
say it too you guys have all this data on things

00:27:28.099 --> 00:27:31.599
that kill you and you continue to you know you

00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.720
double down on it you just do them yeah double

00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.799
it and pass it to the next person but but also

00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:39.420
like That kind of fired me up too. I'm like,

00:27:39.579 --> 00:27:43.000
fuck these people. Or these Andromedans. Get

00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:46.720
them out of my world. I also love the costume

00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:49.240
design. They intentionally just make Emma Stone

00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:51.559
look like a fucking alien when they shave her

00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:55.940
head. And they show her with this lathered up

00:27:55.940 --> 00:27:58.819
cream on her. Yeah, the ointment they rub on

00:27:58.819 --> 00:28:02.579
her. And these eerie shots of her in this basement.

00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:06.150
It just looks like... something you're gonna

00:28:06.150 --> 00:28:08.930
see in an actual like ridley scott alien movie

00:28:08.930 --> 00:28:10.390
or some some weird shit it doesn't look like

00:28:10.390 --> 00:28:12.910
a xenoblade but like that old school big -eyed

00:28:12.910 --> 00:28:15.890
alien i like the way they dressed her up just

00:28:15.890 --> 00:28:19.390
because i feel like personally it made jesse

00:28:19.390 --> 00:28:22.589
plemon's character even more crazy it made it

00:28:22.589 --> 00:28:24.410
made you feel like you did not want to believe

00:28:24.410 --> 00:28:27.190
him whatsoever the fact he's got donnie shaving

00:28:27.190 --> 00:28:29.490
her head in the back seat like make sure you

00:28:29.490 --> 00:28:32.210
cut off all her hair real quick you're like dude

00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.799
it was right like but that's the thing he was

00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:37.880
right in the end that's what made it so good

00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:39.940
because when you're watching the scene initially

00:28:39.940 --> 00:28:43.599
you're like dude she's not contacting her mothership

00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:45.220
with her fucking hair that's the dumbest thing

00:28:45.220 --> 00:28:47.380
i've ever heard and then when she's actually

00:28:47.380 --> 00:28:49.200
on the shit they're like yeah we couldn't get

00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.500
a hold of you where'd your hair go no it was

00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:56.079
almost kind of funny i mean the the destruction

00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:58.460
of the human race too i mean that scene was probably

00:28:58.460 --> 00:29:01.259
a little five seconds ten seconds too long for

00:29:01.259 --> 00:29:04.440
me i i understood what was going on i mean it

00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:08.259
was it was impactful um i i wasn't like the biggest

00:29:08.259 --> 00:29:11.000
fan honestly of the ship itself like the alien

00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.480
ship i thought it was too green screeny and ridiculous

00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.720
they kind of looked like thumb people from spy

00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:20.920
kids a little bit but with long long hair long

00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:24.880
beautiful hair but um i mean who the fuck knows

00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:27.059
what aliens look like you know they could look

00:29:27.059 --> 00:29:31.059
like that no yeah i i think that was just a little

00:29:31.059 --> 00:29:33.559
odd for me but nonetheless it didn't take anything

00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:35.880
away from like the cinematography the music was

00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:39.599
so good too it was almost i kind of thought it

00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.299
was horror music a lot of those initial scenes

00:29:42.299 --> 00:29:44.779
when you're learning more and more about the

00:29:44.779 --> 00:29:46.960
plot you know i knew from the trailer that they

00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.059
were going to kidnap her and you know that's

00:29:49.059 --> 00:29:51.000
kind of building up they're wearing these when

00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:52.940
they were like jennifer aniston masks or something

00:29:52.940 --> 00:29:55.200
something crazy i think it was jennifer aniston

00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.339
yeah that that scene was like funny when they

00:29:57.339 --> 00:29:59.519
were kidnapping her um and she's beating the

00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.359
shit out yeah i and i'm rooting for emma stone

00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:05.220
at this point too um because obviously like kidnapping

00:30:05.220 --> 00:30:09.019
is not good but Dude, the best is when I think

00:30:09.019 --> 00:30:11.380
it's Donnie's character tried to spray her or

00:30:11.380 --> 00:30:14.500
whatever, and it's having zero effect on it.

00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:16.759
Like, he's completely missing her. No, that was

00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:18.380
Jesse Plemons. He's like six feet away. Oh, Jesse

00:30:18.380 --> 00:30:21.279
Plemons. Yeah. Like, tried to spray her, and

00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:24.059
he's just like too far away for it to even do

00:30:24.059 --> 00:30:27.220
anything. That had to actually be those guys

00:30:27.220 --> 00:30:29.799
acting that out, I would imagine, because they

00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:35.500
were so bad at fighting. I don't know. It was

00:30:35.500 --> 00:30:38.509
just like a... it was a kind of a funny scene

00:30:38.509 --> 00:30:43.849
and just yeah i mean the the cinematography was

00:30:43.849 --> 00:30:45.769
very good we could probably just touch on the

00:30:45.769 --> 00:30:50.589
writing here um yeah i mean not many plot holes

00:30:50.589 --> 00:30:54.789
i could think of the only big one was kind of

00:30:54.789 --> 00:30:57.630
the end when she just goes into the office i

00:30:57.630 --> 00:31:01.829
feel like most people would have stopped that

00:31:01.829 --> 00:31:05.420
before she got to her office i mean she's limping

00:31:05.420 --> 00:31:09.259
in with this random dude after being missing

00:31:09.259 --> 00:31:13.299
for days like three days i don't think that made

00:31:13.299 --> 00:31:15.700
a whole lot of sense i get that she runs this

00:31:15.700 --> 00:31:18.220
whole company so she could do whatever she wants

00:31:18.220 --> 00:31:22.819
um to me it would have just been i don't know

00:31:22.819 --> 00:31:25.119
i'm nitpicking here overall i don't think there

00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.740
were many plot holes at all and we touched on

00:31:27.740 --> 00:31:30.910
just how well the characters played With each

00:31:30.910 --> 00:31:34.009
other the relationship the dialogue between Jesse

00:31:34.009 --> 00:31:38.710
Plemons and Emma Stone is Perfect. It was the

00:31:38.710 --> 00:31:44.869
perfect representation of again those Schizo

00:31:44.869 --> 00:31:48.049
conspiracy theorists deep in the reddit threads

00:31:48.049 --> 00:31:51.309
and Jesse Plemons just spewing all that at her

00:31:51.309 --> 00:31:56.890
versus the mega big pharma corporation head CEO

00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:02.380
spewing bullshit right back both her trying to

00:32:02.380 --> 00:32:05.420
manipulate the situation him trying to get these

00:32:05.420 --> 00:32:08.619
ludicrous ideas and points across to her and

00:32:08.619 --> 00:32:12.019
it's just the battle of the two extremes yeah

00:32:12.019 --> 00:32:15.440
and then donnie over there is just trying to

00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.380
take a piss he's trying to take a leak donnie

00:32:18.380 --> 00:32:23.200
donnie was like a representation of a normal

00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.039
person just trying to get about their day just

00:32:26.430 --> 00:32:29.569
taking in whatever is coming at him and unfortunately

00:32:29.569 --> 00:32:32.329
he got the shit under the stick but i also think

00:32:32.329 --> 00:32:36.309
donnie's character made so much sense and i loved

00:32:36.309 --> 00:32:38.549
i didn't mention this i might have touched on

00:32:38.549 --> 00:32:41.009
it there's only five characters that have lines

00:32:41.009 --> 00:32:44.210
in this movie i think aside aside from like the

00:32:44.210 --> 00:32:46.450
news reporter that reports are missing i literally

00:32:46.450 --> 00:32:50.029
think it's emma stone jesse clemens donnie his

00:32:50.029 --> 00:32:51.710
actor name i pulled up because we gotta give

00:32:51.710 --> 00:32:55.390
this guy credit aiden delbis is his name um he's

00:32:55.390 --> 00:32:57.109
not in like anything this is like his second

00:32:57.109 --> 00:33:00.470
thing he's been in first first like co -star

00:33:00.470 --> 00:33:08.410
role but him being that he was sort of the I

00:33:08.410 --> 00:33:10.369
don't know to me I just don't think Jesse Plemons

00:33:10.369 --> 00:33:12.609
carries any of this out if he doesn't have Donnie's

00:33:12.609 --> 00:33:14.529
support with him because at the end of the day

00:33:14.529 --> 00:33:17.250
he's he's this fiery reddit conspiracy theorist

00:33:17.250 --> 00:33:19.829
but he's a pussy you know like he can't fight

00:33:19.829 --> 00:33:23.940
he doesn't have any power or wealth he's just

00:33:23.940 --> 00:33:27.119
acting on his own accord and Donnie like helps

00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:29.880
him actually carry all this out you know he needs

00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.259
someone validating his actions almost like a

00:33:32.259 --> 00:33:35.180
yes man and the fact that Donnie's not even a

00:33:35.180 --> 00:33:38.819
yes man Donnie is timid the whole time he's constantly

00:33:38.819 --> 00:33:42.039
pushing back and is like I don't know if this

00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.700
is the right thing to do right but Jesse Plemons

00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:48.160
needs him to keep going through with it he's

00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:51.109
like no no trust me I'm saving you I'm doing

00:33:51.109 --> 00:33:53.869
you a favor, Donnie. I'm trying to save you.

00:33:54.009 --> 00:33:56.269
And he doesn't have any friends. Why do you think

00:33:56.269 --> 00:33:58.309
Jesse Pumas has no friends? Because all his friends

00:33:58.309 --> 00:33:59.849
that are not autistic are like, dude, you're

00:33:59.849 --> 00:34:03.329
fucking crazy. Or he's probably fucking killed

00:34:03.329 --> 00:34:06.289
him. Yeah, either or. He's a fucking crazy person.

00:34:06.549 --> 00:34:09.849
Either or. Yeah, so this was a great movie. I

00:34:09.849 --> 00:34:12.010
would recommend this to anybody. I already have

00:34:12.010 --> 00:34:15.590
today. I've told a few people about it. Definitely

00:34:15.590 --> 00:34:18.670
go watch Begonia. Right when I saw this movie,

00:34:18.769 --> 00:34:22.000
it reminded me of... It reminded me of two movies.

00:34:22.099 --> 00:34:25.059
Right when I saw the trailer of Begonia, it reminded

00:34:25.059 --> 00:34:27.739
me of two movies. One was 10 Cloverfield Lane.

00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.099
Just that idea of... Very good comparison, yeah.

00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.280
Just the idea of that girl being dragged down

00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:37.400
into the bunker. John Goodman's character's like,

00:34:37.500 --> 00:34:40.800
look, I saved you. The Ruskies are taking over

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.139
up there, all right? Like, you're safe down here.

00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.780
And the rest of the movie is her like, wait,

00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.590
is he just... trapping me in his bunker is he

00:34:49.590 --> 00:34:52.090
gonna do something or like what the fuck is actually

00:34:52.090 --> 00:34:54.409
going on up there and then eventually you realize

00:34:54.409 --> 00:34:58.349
aliens took over another movie that this reminded

00:34:58.349 --> 00:35:01.530
me of was m night shamalan's a knock at the cabin

00:35:01.530 --> 00:35:06.590
i haven't seen that that's new though right that's

00:35:06.590 --> 00:35:09.050
it's a it's a little bit yeah it's a little bit

00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:13.409
newer and it's got that same idea where dave

00:35:13.409 --> 00:35:18.699
batista and his group of characters are approaching

00:35:18.699 --> 00:35:21.619
this couple and their child and it's like look

00:35:21.619 --> 00:35:27.219
we need to sacrifice one of y 'all to save the

00:35:27.219 --> 00:35:33.900
human race and unfortunately in that movie there's

00:35:33.900 --> 00:35:38.860
no the ending just kind of muffles everything

00:35:38.860 --> 00:35:41.800
else that happens prior it's kind of like a shitty

00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:43.980
ending you don't get any sense of gratification

00:35:43.980 --> 00:35:47.739
at the end of it this movie though i don't know

00:35:47.739 --> 00:35:50.059
i just loved it from the very start to the very

00:35:50.059 --> 00:35:53.039
end yeah even though even though the ending is

00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.019
the human race being annihilated right but it

00:35:56.019 --> 00:35:58.719
has like a light touch to it it's more of an

00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:03.119
informative this maybe could happen i mean there's

00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.019
definitely i think there's aliens out there i

00:36:05.019 --> 00:36:09.699
mean there has to be um and they also tied in

00:36:09.699 --> 00:36:11.760
the b reference from the very beginning to the

00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.139
very end the one line too that i still remember

00:36:14.139 --> 00:36:16.300
i don't even write this down it might be it might

00:36:16.300 --> 00:36:19.530
not be completely verbatim, but the first couple

00:36:19.530 --> 00:36:21.489
of sentences that Jesse Plemons says when the

00:36:21.489 --> 00:36:24.510
movie starts, he's like, bees, you know, they

00:36:24.510 --> 00:36:26.889
collect pollen and then they plant their seed

00:36:26.889 --> 00:36:30.329
in a different part of a new flower. He's like,

00:36:30.409 --> 00:36:33.150
it's basically like sex, but no one gets hurt.

00:36:33.329 --> 00:36:36.829
And I loved that line because even he realizes

00:36:36.829 --> 00:36:39.210
that humans, they definitely have their flaws,

00:36:39.349 --> 00:36:43.920
but he's still representing human. Like, he is

00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:48.219
trying to kill aliens in his fucking basement.

00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:52.059
Dude, this movie had... quite a lot of humor

00:36:52.059 --> 00:36:55.780
in it that was like surprising that scene where

00:36:55.780 --> 00:36:57.880
they finally capture her bring her down to the

00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:01.539
basement it it just pans upstairs and it's just

00:37:01.539 --> 00:37:04.639
donnie and jesse or john donnie and jesse plevin's

00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:06.619
characters holding each other just bouncing up

00:37:06.619 --> 00:37:09.000
and down yeah i made a lot of weird gestures

00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:14.800
yeah no that was weird i mean a lot of unsettling

00:37:15.420 --> 00:37:18.139
um not actually not that many unsettling parts

00:37:18.139 --> 00:37:20.980
there's a couple weird gory things that happen

00:37:20.980 --> 00:37:24.760
but just a lot of a lot of good things the human

00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.579
race being exterminated was unsettling but yeah

00:37:28.579 --> 00:37:32.300
that wasn't too great but they i will say there

00:37:32.300 --> 00:37:34.679
was another i mean just some of the lines that

00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:36.380
they wrote in this and then the delivery of the

00:37:36.380 --> 00:37:39.380
lines were so great there was one towards the

00:37:39.380 --> 00:37:42.320
start of the movie or right when they capture

00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.719
emma stone And they're observing her in the basement.

00:37:47.179 --> 00:37:50.400
And he's talking to Donnie and he's just like,

00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.159
I can't remember exactly what he says, but it's

00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:58.179
along the lines of, I've never seen one this

00:37:58.179 --> 00:38:01.940
good. Something along the lines. And right then

00:38:01.940 --> 00:38:04.260
it clicked. I was like, oh, he's done this before.

00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.239
He's fucking kidnapped people and tortured people

00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:11.619
and probably killed handfuls of people to get

00:38:11.619 --> 00:38:15.800
to this point. And I just thought, like, I mean,

00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.159
again, all credits to Jesse Plemons, all credits

00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:20.920
to Emma Stone. This movie just fucking knocked

00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:23.719
it out the park for me. Yeah, yeah. I honestly

00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:25.219
thought we were going to have a scene, too, where

00:38:25.219 --> 00:38:28.420
Jesse Plemons gets cleaned up for once and takes

00:38:28.420 --> 00:38:31.059
a shower, and he just never does. Like, he's

00:38:31.059 --> 00:38:33.980
biking with blood all over him. You know that

00:38:33.980 --> 00:38:35.920
house smelled like shit. Even when they were

00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.059
recording it, it probably smelled like shit.

00:38:38.539 --> 00:38:41.440
Yeah, no. I don't even think he knows what a

00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:45.760
shower is anymore. All right. Let's do the scores

00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.679
here. Wrap this up. I went entertainment. I went

00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:55.719
8 .2. Entertainment, I went 9 .5. Characters,

00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.260
I went 8 .9. 9 .1. Are you going to beat me on

00:39:00.260 --> 00:39:05.440
all of these? Yep. Cinematography, I went 8 .5.

00:39:06.019 --> 00:39:11.780
9 .4. Damn. And then writing, I went 8 -0. Writing,

00:39:11.820 --> 00:39:14.880
I went 8 -9. We have a final score here of an

00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:19.300
8 .8 for Billionaire. I mean, it's a very good

00:39:19.300 --> 00:39:22.280
score. That's a very good score. Yeah. So you

00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.380
can go check out all of our scores. They're on

00:39:24.380 --> 00:39:26.440
our website, which is linked in our YouTube bio

00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:29.199
and in our podcast bio. So if you're listening

00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.900
or watching on YouTube, make sure to go check

00:39:31.900 --> 00:39:33.519
those out if you're interested in any of our

00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:37.039
other movie reviews. And we will see you next

00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:39.340
time. Deuces.
