WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.540 welcome back to ripe avocados today we're gonna 00:00:03.540 --> 00:00:07.440 look at him new movie produced by jordan peele 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:10.220 do not know the director but he was not it's 00:00:10.220 --> 00:00:12.839 like something tipping something just i think 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:16.179 it's justin justin tipping yeah that sounds directed 00:00:16.179 --> 00:00:20.460 by justin tipping it stars marlon wayans and 00:00:20.460 --> 00:00:22.559 the guy from i know what you did last summer 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:24.879 don't know his name either but tyreek withers 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:28.440 tyreek withers and we're gonna find more about 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:31.449 it Find more out about it right now. Let's get 00:00:31.449 --> 00:00:53.189 into it. So the movie Hymn follows Cam Cade. 00:00:54.060 --> 00:00:58.679 It starts off him as a kid watching his favorite 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:02.460 football player, Isaiah White. I believe it's 00:01:02.460 --> 00:01:06.359 the San Francisco Saviors. The NFL didn't sponsor 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:11.319 this movie. Yes, no. But he's watching his favorite 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:13.599 quarterback, Isaiah White, and Isaiah White has 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:16.420 probably the most horrendous leg injury I've 00:01:16.420 --> 00:01:19.980 ever seen. It was like Kevin Ware -esque. And 00:01:19.980 --> 00:01:23.260 he comes back from that and ends up winning. 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:25.920 eight super bowls or whatever the equivalent 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:28.400 is in this football league yeah one more than 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:32.439 Tom Brady I mean he's the goat he's the undeniable 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:37.680 goat and Cam Cade wants to be the next goat and 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:41.739 he's a rising star he's a college football star 00:01:41.739 --> 00:01:45.480 and it's look like it looks like he's going to 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:50.840 be the next Isaiah White until some dude dressed 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:55.799 in like a cowboy hat and glitter and fur or some 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:59.439 shit slams him in the side of the head and causes 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:04.599 traumatic brain injury to him and he then gets 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:07.920 a one -week personal tryout with isaiah white 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:10.740 to become the next starting qb for the saviors 00:02:10.740 --> 00:02:16.120 and during that week he kind of learns all the 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:20.240 demonic shit that goes into becoming the goat 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:25.740 yeah well said i i fucking hated this plot so 00:02:25.740 --> 00:02:29.740 much but let's score this and we got a lot to 00:02:29.740 --> 00:02:32.199 talk about because this was a very very interesting 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:38.639 movie so entertainment i went 4 .1 wow i didn't 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:41.120 so i actually did not hate this movie as much 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:45.860 as i thought i would i gave it a 6 .5 okay characters 00:02:45.860 --> 00:02:52.780 i went 7 .8 okay characters i went 5 out julia 00:02:52.780 --> 00:02:55.580 fox wasn't doing it for you she was the only 00:02:55.580 --> 00:02:59.240 one doing it for me cinematography i went 7 .8 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:03.840 again cinematography i went 5 .0 damn really 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:07.379 okay and then writing i went 3 .0 writing i went 00:03:07.379 --> 00:03:10.939 2 .5 okay so you only thought this was entertaining 00:03:10.939 --> 00:03:15.939 i all right why why did you think it was like 00:03:15.939 --> 00:03:20.889 decent 6 .5 isn't a bad score no no And honestly, 00:03:21.030 --> 00:03:24.349 my character in cinematography isn't bad. It 00:03:24.349 --> 00:03:27.949 was just very average for me. Besides a couple 00:03:27.949 --> 00:03:31.009 of the characters really shined, but the rest 00:03:31.009 --> 00:03:33.629 of the cast really wasn't doing it for me. But 00:03:33.629 --> 00:03:38.389 for entertainment -wise, I think I might have 00:03:38.389 --> 00:03:40.590 gone a little bit higher on that just because 00:03:40.590 --> 00:03:44.009 the bar was set so low for me. I've only seen 00:03:44.009 --> 00:03:46.349 absolutely horrendous reviews for this movie. 00:03:46.430 --> 00:03:49.259 So going into it... I was like, this has to be 00:03:49.259 --> 00:03:53.520 the shittiest thing ever. But it was weird and 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:55.719 trippy enough to where I was engaged to the whole 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:59.419 movie. This kind of cuts into cinematography, 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:03.639 but I thought a lot of the editing in this movie 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:07.340 reminded me of a Nike commercial or a music video. 00:04:07.659 --> 00:04:10.620 And it kind of took me out of the movie a little 00:04:10.620 --> 00:04:13.759 bit, which was a weird feeling because I was 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:17.500 like... i'm like watching these super quick cuts 00:04:17.500 --> 00:04:21.639 of marlon wayans and tyreek withers throwing 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:25.100 the football doing football shit learning handshakes 00:04:25.100 --> 00:04:27.399 and i'm like this is a nike commercial that's 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:29.639 what this feels like yeah this isn't a movie 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:34.300 but then again the the movie aspects of it in 00:04:34.300 --> 00:04:38.680 the weird trippy demonic sacrificial shit kind 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:40.899 of just kept me engaged the whole time i didn't 00:04:40.899 --> 00:04:44.360 know where it was going right i agree with you 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:47.620 i had no idea where it was going and i never 00:04:47.620 --> 00:04:50.819 found out where it was going and i i liked how 00:04:50.819 --> 00:04:53.199 you brought up the the nike commercial because 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.519 what i thought you you saw the trailer for this 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.800 no i'm assuming you did yes yeah i i saw this 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.680 trailer like five times at least that's probably 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:04.019 i probably actually saw it like closer to 10 00:05:04.019 --> 00:05:09.319 and i literally think that if i just watched 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:12.100 the trailer and came on this podcast and talked 00:05:12.100 --> 00:05:15.860 to you about it, I would know just the same amount 00:05:15.860 --> 00:05:18.300 of information about this movie that I did from 00:05:18.300 --> 00:05:22.139 watching the entire thing. The entire story is 00:05:22.139 --> 00:05:26.800 introduced to me in the trailer, and I had the 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:29.199 same knowledge after seeing the whole thing. 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:33.660 It's not explained. Nothing really is explained. 00:05:33.980 --> 00:05:36.720 There's a general theme that we'll talk about, 00:05:36.860 --> 00:05:40.189 and they just like... hammer it over and over 00:05:40.189 --> 00:05:45.589 and over and yeah i completely agree with that 00:05:45.589 --> 00:05:49.430 actually because i don't think all the major 00:05:49.430 --> 00:05:53.389 plot points pretty much in the trailer is what's 00:05:53.389 --> 00:05:55.529 in the movie there's nothing that happens in 00:05:55.529 --> 00:05:58.790 the movie where you're like holy shit like i 00:05:58.790 --> 00:06:02.850 did not see that coming like you get a pretty 00:06:02.850 --> 00:06:07.509 good sense that early on in this movie okay to 00:06:07.509 --> 00:06:11.589 be the football goat, there's going to be a lot 00:06:11.589 --> 00:06:14.230 of sacrifice. And they hammer that home, right? 00:06:14.529 --> 00:06:17.410 Physical, mental, and then literal sacrifice. 00:06:18.730 --> 00:06:21.569 So once it gets to that point where you start 00:06:21.569 --> 00:06:25.990 realizing there's demonic forces involved, you're 00:06:25.990 --> 00:06:28.949 kind of waiting for an explanation or at least 00:06:28.949 --> 00:06:31.029 something to give you a sense of satisfaction 00:06:31.029 --> 00:06:33.470 at the end of watching this movie, and that just 00:06:33.470 --> 00:06:37.329 never happens. Right. Although I... Although 00:06:37.329 --> 00:06:42.230 I did like KMK just gunning everyone down at 00:06:42.230 --> 00:06:47.170 the end with that pickaxe. Yeah, I guess. I just 00:06:47.170 --> 00:06:51.509 didn't get satisfied at all watching that. Maybe 00:06:51.509 --> 00:06:53.970 I was happy the movie was going to come to an 00:06:53.970 --> 00:07:00.009 end. But it just didn't make any sense. The thing 00:07:00.009 --> 00:07:02.230 that I will say about this movie is I do think 00:07:02.230 --> 00:07:05.649 they had a decent idea going. And it was just 00:07:05.649 --> 00:07:10.569 not... joined together in a way that made me 00:07:10.569 --> 00:07:14.050 come away with any sort of like nothing resonated 00:07:14.050 --> 00:07:16.610 with this at all like the theme I'm talking about 00:07:16.610 --> 00:07:19.269 they reference it in the movie it's God family 00:07:19.269 --> 00:07:23.990 football everyone like 99 .9 % of people that 00:07:23.990 --> 00:07:27.269 play football most of them are religious most 00:07:27.269 --> 00:07:29.850 of them are Christian and most of them talk about 00:07:29.850 --> 00:07:32.649 that where it's like God has allowed us to play 00:07:32.649 --> 00:07:35.810 football it's a dangerous game we know that there's 00:07:36.170 --> 00:07:38.250 you know terrible things that can happen from 00:07:38.250 --> 00:07:40.610 it but at the end of the day god has our back 00:07:40.610 --> 00:07:42.689 like we're just playing this to be part of a 00:07:42.689 --> 00:07:45.810 brotherhood and marlon wayans is like the antichrist 00:07:45.810 --> 00:07:48.029 to that and that is the point they just keep 00:07:48.029 --> 00:07:51.029 telling you over and over and over and over the 00:07:51.029 --> 00:07:53.930 other the other huge problem i have with the 00:07:53.930 --> 00:07:56.589 entertainment with this what i don't understand 00:07:56.589 --> 00:07:58.790 why you make a sports movie i get that the nfl 00:07:58.790 --> 00:08:00.790 doesn't want to sponsor this because it's has 00:08:00.790 --> 00:08:03.470 nothing to do with their image like totally understand 00:08:04.220 --> 00:08:06.800 It was like a Lil Nas X music video or something. 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:11.740 Just please hire one person that is affiliated 00:08:11.740 --> 00:08:15.300 with football to stand there next to Justin, 00:08:15.579 --> 00:08:19.160 whatever his name is, Justin Lanning. I forget 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:22.879 the director's name. Justin Tipping. Justin Tipping. 00:08:22.899 --> 00:08:24.899 He needs to be standing right there next to him 00:08:24.899 --> 00:08:28.480 and being like, listen, dude, nobody. Nobody 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:33.360 throws a ball this way. This isn't how a drill 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.720 is conducted in any sort of way. We got the same 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:40.279 shot of Cameron Cade just standing there and 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:43.039 throwing the ball, and we didn't get any actual 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.899 highlight. They didn't show him. The cool highlight 00:08:46.899 --> 00:08:49.940 was him just targeting some defensive player 00:08:49.940 --> 00:08:56.370 and killing him, basically. We also have Marlon 00:08:56.370 --> 00:08:59.669 Wayans standing there watching this. He's wearing, 00:08:59.870 --> 00:09:02.769 I don't know if you call it this, he's literally 00:09:02.769 --> 00:09:07.250 wearing the neck guard brace that Christian McCaffrey 00:09:07.250 --> 00:09:11.029 wears, which again, that's for neck safety and 00:09:11.029 --> 00:09:13.370 support, so that completely went against his 00:09:13.370 --> 00:09:15.690 whole character. He's supposed to just be the 00:09:15.690 --> 00:09:18.230 opposite of a pussy or whatever, and he's just 00:09:18.230 --> 00:09:21.730 tough -nosed or whatever. He's wearing this piece 00:09:21.730 --> 00:09:23.629 of apparel that makes no sense. He shouldn't 00:09:23.629 --> 00:09:27.190 be wearing that. And all the football drills 00:09:27.190 --> 00:09:30.470 and everything just were not cool or entertaining 00:09:30.470 --> 00:09:32.169 in any way. Like, they could have just thrown 00:09:32.169 --> 00:09:34.889 in some highlights. Like, hire a couple actual 00:09:34.889 --> 00:09:37.710 players to run some routes and make it somewhat 00:09:37.710 --> 00:09:40.730 interesting before you get into all the demonic 00:09:40.730 --> 00:09:43.210 shit that didn't even make sense. Like, I just 00:09:43.210 --> 00:09:44.970 didn't know what this was. I need to see Justin 00:09:44.970 --> 00:09:48.889 Jefferson gritting across my screen. Give me 00:09:48.889 --> 00:09:52.879 something. He had no highlights. Like, Cameron 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.620 Cade, he's just like, oh, he's this crazy prospect. 00:09:55.820 --> 00:09:58.720 All he's done is just, like, done a couple interviews 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.039 and stand there in a straight line and, like, 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.740 throw the ball like this a few times. I don't 00:10:03.740 --> 00:10:06.179 know. I just thought it was kind of lazy. He 00:10:06.179 --> 00:10:08.559 fucking killed a guy on the field. He killed 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:12.600 a guy on the field. And Marlon Wayne nutted when 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:16.960 he saw that. Yeah, I mean, a lot of wow factor 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:21.230 in this movie, but... no substance at all literally 00:10:21.230 --> 00:10:25.909 none whatsoever that's perfect there's zero depth 00:10:25.909 --> 00:10:28.950 zero substance to this movie so let's talk about 00:10:28.950 --> 00:10:31.529 the characters because i do think marlon wayans 00:10:31.529 --> 00:10:35.649 should be nommed for an oscar for this movie 00:10:35.649 --> 00:10:38.889 i actually do and i think if you ask marlon wayans 00:10:38.889 --> 00:10:41.690 now what is the purpose of your character? What's 00:10:41.690 --> 00:10:43.649 his backstory? I don't think he could tell us 00:10:43.649 --> 00:10:45.909 what it is because I don't think they ever figured 00:10:45.909 --> 00:10:47.490 that fucking, I don't think they ever figured 00:10:47.490 --> 00:10:50.350 it out. He has like this interesting background 00:10:50.350 --> 00:10:54.710 and they never dissected. I thought Cameron Cade's 00:10:54.710 --> 00:10:56.970 character had some layers to it too, but they 00:10:56.970 --> 00:11:01.549 never show anything. Just give me some more flashbacks. 00:11:01.629 --> 00:11:04.029 Give me some more intricacies. Why is Marlon 00:11:04.029 --> 00:11:06.950 Wayans connected to the devil? Show me some scene 00:11:06.950 --> 00:11:11.090 of Marlon Wayans in a cult setting making a deal 00:11:11.090 --> 00:11:13.149 with the devil or something. I don't know. Just 00:11:13.149 --> 00:11:16.289 something. That's exactly what we're talking 00:11:16.289 --> 00:11:19.429 about here when we say this movie lacked substance 00:11:19.429 --> 00:11:25.370 and depth. There was no look into Marlon Wayans' 00:11:25.450 --> 00:11:28.450 character. There was no depth really with Cameron 00:11:28.450 --> 00:11:31.490 Cade's character. It was very surface level and 00:11:31.490 --> 00:11:34.470 this movie was just filled with a bunch of... 00:11:35.309 --> 00:11:39.049 weird and trippy scenes that like visually are 00:11:39.049 --> 00:11:42.110 like oh that's pretty cool but it doesn't add 00:11:42.110 --> 00:11:46.009 anything to the story the whole thing with mar 00:11:46.009 --> 00:11:50.370 like that sauna scene was fucking insane but 00:11:50.370 --> 00:11:54.490 like why did we have to show marlon wayne just 00:11:54.490 --> 00:11:59.529 captain america her into the into the wall and 00:11:59.529 --> 00:12:03.399 then pretend like it never happened yeah or explain 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:05.960 give me more of that yeah give give me a little 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:08.659 bit more of that like i understand surface value 00:12:08.659 --> 00:12:12.980 right like or i'm maybe i don't know like he's 00:12:12.980 --> 00:12:18.019 killing the fan because what he because he's 00:12:18.019 --> 00:12:20.700 him he's the quarterback he's him yeah i i don't 00:12:20.700 --> 00:12:23.620 know dude the fans don't matter they that doesn't 00:12:23.620 --> 00:12:25.639 matter to the director like they they did not 00:12:26.059 --> 00:12:28.159 They just didn't care about this. They just grabbed 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:31.480 a lot of younger kids probably into football, 00:12:31.620 --> 00:12:33.240 into sports. They're like, oh, yeah, he's saying 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:36.519 I'm him. They marketed this movie pretty well, 00:12:36.620 --> 00:12:38.879 I think. A lot of people probably saw this trailer. 00:12:38.980 --> 00:12:41.220 I thought the trailer was good. Made me go watch 00:12:41.220 --> 00:12:45.480 it. But you just got to explain why there's some 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.600 obese -looking clown hitting Cameron Cade with 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:50.740 a hammer in the middle of a football field. What 00:12:50.740 --> 00:12:52.559 the fuck was that? Yes, exactly. He wasn't even 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:55.279 supernatural. He was there in the end. He just 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:59.039 appeared behind him on a full -size football 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:01.320 field. We can all see everything, and he just 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:04.659 appears there like a fucking Dementor. What was 00:13:04.659 --> 00:13:09.639 that? I don't know, man. I get it was all set 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.240 up to bring Cameron Cade to that point, but give 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:18.200 me a little bit more backstory. Right. I want 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.720 to know. Like, I get you don't want to explain 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:23.600 everything, but, like, we need a little bit to 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:28.259 make an inference. Have you seen the movie Waves? 00:13:29.379 --> 00:13:35.840 No. So, it's about a kid similar age to Cameron 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.100 Cade's character. This is a very good movie, 00:13:39.179 --> 00:13:42.500 though. Complete opposite spectrum, right? Very 00:13:42.500 --> 00:13:45.840 good movie. Not hot garbage. This kid is a wrestler. 00:13:46.019 --> 00:13:48.559 He's a high school wrestler. He's trying, he's 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:51.580 like getting recruited and he gets injured wrestling. 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:56.720 And his dad is a very like predominant figure 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:59.460 helping him through wrestling. But he's also 00:13:59.460 --> 00:14:02.000 like kind of overbearing wants him, wants his 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.620 son to be tough and it bleeds between the lines. 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:07.799 And his son starts taking steroids and painkillers 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:13.149 to get rid of it. It goes. down a dark turn that's 00:14:13.149 --> 00:14:15.750 just a whole different movie we had a little 00:14:15.750 --> 00:14:18.570 bit of that coming into Cameron Cade's character 00:14:18.570 --> 00:14:20.830 in the beginning where I think they should have 00:14:20.830 --> 00:14:24.570 attached it more to that like again show him 00:14:24.570 --> 00:14:26.769 breaking some dude's ankles on a high school 00:14:26.769 --> 00:14:28.669 football field or a college football field and 00:14:28.669 --> 00:14:31.769 then getting an actual concussion yeah in a cool 00:14:31.769 --> 00:14:33.710 football highlight and then he's in this point 00:14:33.710 --> 00:14:36.309 that would have made way more sense to me but 00:14:36.309 --> 00:14:39.450 they just I don't know I don't know what what 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:43.259 What we're really doing here. I feel like that's 00:14:43.259 --> 00:14:48.799 kind of the idea that they wanted to portray 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:52.779 in this movie. Because they show that guy, Marco, 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:55.139 just sticking him with needles the whole time. 00:14:55.580 --> 00:14:59.019 But then at the end, they have him infused with 00:14:59.019 --> 00:15:03.000 Isaiah White's blood. It's like, can we expand 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:04.960 more on that? Because apparently Isaiah White 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.990 got that blood from the predecessor to him. them 00:15:08.990 --> 00:15:12.110 before them so it's like i don't know i wanted 00:15:12.110 --> 00:15:16.669 more i i completely agree with you let's do let's 00:15:16.669 --> 00:15:20.110 do cinematography i think jordan peele had a 00:15:20.110 --> 00:15:23.409 lot of influence over over this aspect of it 00:15:23.409 --> 00:15:26.409 and honestly the characters do he makes those 00:15:26.409 --> 00:15:29.350 worlds and this movie was a prime example of 00:15:29.350 --> 00:15:33.750 it where reality is just weird A lot of the characters 00:15:33.750 --> 00:15:35.970 in this movie, there's something completely off 00:15:35.970 --> 00:15:38.370 about them. Even the side characters like Julia 00:15:38.370 --> 00:15:43.210 Fox and her friend that, you know, that Cameron 00:15:43.210 --> 00:15:45.769 Cade hooks up with, like, they're just kind of 00:15:45.769 --> 00:15:49.389 weird. everyone's weird looking too man yeah 00:15:49.389 --> 00:15:52.029 everyone's creepy looking like there's fans crawling 00:15:52.029 --> 00:15:54.470 out from underneath the sauna how the hell did 00:15:54.470 --> 00:15:57.330 they get there who knows but that to me was just 00:15:57.330 --> 00:16:00.190 jordan peel 101 and i like that stuff like it's 00:16:00.190 --> 00:16:02.730 it's fucking weird doesn't make any sense but 00:16:02.730 --> 00:16:05.169 it keeps me engaged and it's and it is kind of 00:16:05.169 --> 00:16:06.690 entertaining because i don't want to look away 00:16:06.690 --> 00:16:08.429 because i'm like what the hell is going on in 00:16:08.429 --> 00:16:14.730 the sauna um i like that but It just seems like 00:16:14.730 --> 00:16:17.730 they were just hammering home these themes. There's 00:16:17.730 --> 00:16:21.690 just a ton of goat symbolism. There's a ton of 00:16:21.690 --> 00:16:25.850 demonic symbolism. At the very end, there's just 00:16:25.850 --> 00:16:30.610 a panel of board directors of some... The owners 00:16:30.610 --> 00:16:35.590 of the saviors. I guess, yeah. I don't know. 00:16:35.669 --> 00:16:38.210 That whole part was weird. I just think the ending 00:16:38.210 --> 00:16:41.309 was really weird. But I did appreciate how bold 00:16:41.309 --> 00:16:43.919 and vibrant they made. the cinematography like 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:46.840 a lot of crazy colors too i think the whole the 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:49.700 compound looked cool like that whole setting 00:16:49.700 --> 00:16:52.240 was that was actually pretty uniform that the 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.899 whole movie felt that way and i did want to give 00:16:54.899 --> 00:16:58.980 a little bit of a not an ode to that no i agree 00:16:58.980 --> 00:17:02.519 the the cinematography was was fine in my eyes 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:06.319 again a lot of it was just the quick cuts and 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:08.980 shots where it just seemed like a music video 00:17:08.980 --> 00:17:12.079 or a nike commercial those kind of took me out 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:15.000 of the movie a little bit because they also were 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:18.200 it wasn't like 10 seconds of it it was no it 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:22.920 was like a minute 30 montage of cam just doing 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:27.039 like dak prescott hip twists and on the fucking 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:32.000 ladder drills um but outside of that it just 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:36.019 seemed like a hodgepodge of a lot of weird trippy 00:17:36.019 --> 00:17:40.119 scenes to make the movie Seemed like more than 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:45.500 it was. Right. I think you did a good job nailing 00:17:45.500 --> 00:17:48.220 that on the head. The main problems I had with 00:17:48.220 --> 00:17:50.259 the writing were really just football based. 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:56.119 Oh, we'll start with that. The whole build up 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:59.900 to this guy, you know, getting a concussion. 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:04.519 And then I guess we're supposed to believe that 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:07.140 after this number one player in the country gets 00:18:07.140 --> 00:18:10.150 a concussion that. His stock has fallen so drastically 00:18:10.150 --> 00:18:14.650 that he can't just go interview with any team. 00:18:14.950 --> 00:18:17.450 Any of the other, like, 30 teams that I presume 00:18:17.450 --> 00:18:19.309 are in this league. It was a little more than 00:18:19.309 --> 00:18:22.109 a concussion. He, like, cracked his skull open. 00:18:22.589 --> 00:18:25.390 No, I get that. But, like, he's already proven 00:18:25.390 --> 00:18:27.910 to be the number one recruit. So, like, in real 00:18:27.910 --> 00:18:31.230 life, he would have just rested for a couple 00:18:31.230 --> 00:18:33.809 months and none of this shit would have happened 00:18:33.809 --> 00:18:38.700 at all. And, you know, I just... personally did 00:18:38.700 --> 00:18:41.960 not like the fact that julia fox was explaining 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.759 to cameron cade who was basically explaining 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:48.960 to me the viewer that since an owner was going 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.140 to be at some party that the number one recruit 00:18:52.140 --> 00:18:54.880 in college had to go to said party in order to 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:59.140 get a job in the the football professional league 00:18:59.140 --> 00:19:01.779 like that is just not how that works at all and 00:19:01.779 --> 00:19:03.839 that was just really bothering me the whole time 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.410 again Justin Tipping, just put that football 00:19:07.410 --> 00:19:09.289 guy right next to you and you film something 00:19:09.289 --> 00:19:12.710 like this. Or any sports movie, just hire someone 00:19:12.710 --> 00:19:15.910 that knows what that is. Because if we're watching 00:19:15.910 --> 00:19:19.250 something about the military, I can't pick apart 00:19:19.250 --> 00:19:22.049 those sort of things. But there's veterans that 00:19:22.049 --> 00:19:25.410 can do that very well. But sports, for you and 00:19:25.410 --> 00:19:28.369 I, that's our MO. We can watch that and pick 00:19:28.369 --> 00:19:30.650 out stuff that just doesn't look right. It's 00:19:30.650 --> 00:19:32.930 not that hard. You just have to take a little 00:19:32.930 --> 00:19:35.480 extra time. bring someone in that knows what 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:36.980 they're talking about because that shit just 00:19:36.980 --> 00:19:40.859 drove me up a wall yeah i i mean look i didn't 00:19:40.859 --> 00:19:45.559 think this movie was good in any way but it definitely 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.579 wasn't the worst movie i've ever seen i think 00:19:48.579 --> 00:19:52.900 it it's a football movie but again it's more 00:19:52.900 --> 00:19:57.380 it's way more extreme than nfl or what you would 00:19:57.380 --> 00:19:59.559 envision what would happen in the nfl like this 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:02.259 is fucking crazy it's satanic rituals and shit 00:20:02.259 --> 00:20:05.380 like that to become the goat But, like, I understand 00:20:05.380 --> 00:20:08.839 some of the themes that they were trying to portray 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:13.220 throughout this movie, right? Like, the fucking 00:20:13.220 --> 00:20:16.539 wear and tear that these professional athletes' 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:19.160 bodies go through and they still keep trying 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:21.440 to persevere and they inject themselves with 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:25.619 God knows what just to try to stay and maintain 00:20:25.619 --> 00:20:28.519 their body throughout the season and continue 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:31.700 to get better. I understand that. It's just... 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.359 It wasn't a good movie. No. Like, there was no 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:40.920 character development. There was no backstories 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:44.980 to any of the characters. It was a weird, trippy 00:20:44.980 --> 00:20:49.160 movie about football and satanic rituals to become 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:53.839 the greatest of all time. That's it. That was 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:59.099 it. Yeah. And there was one thing I had on the 00:20:59.099 --> 00:21:05.460 top of my tongue. Oh, my God. It's not going 00:21:05.460 --> 00:21:10.880 to come to me now. Yeah, I mean, nothing ties 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:14.720 together at all. I wanted some sort of explanation. 00:21:15.900 --> 00:21:19.319 Literally anything would have been nice. Just 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:23.460 explain it. I thought Marlon Wayans saved this 00:21:23.460 --> 00:21:25.500 movie, to be honest. If he wasn't in it, I would 00:21:25.500 --> 00:21:28.359 have probably left the theater. I thought Marlon 00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:30.880 Wayans did a fantastic job, and I thought Tyreek 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.059 Withers also did a fantastic job. I got to give 00:21:33.059 --> 00:21:37.019 credit to him as well. Yeah, yeah, he was pretty 00:21:37.019 --> 00:21:40.680 solid too. Nothing really bad to say about him 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:45.420 at all. I just think that, oh, this is my point. 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:49.099 I mean, it gets to a point you can get so bold 00:21:49.099 --> 00:21:50.779 with how you want to write something. You want 00:21:50.779 --> 00:21:53.680 to make it really intricate. You know, you want 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.839 to go after the goat, one of the goats, Quentin 00:21:56.839 --> 00:21:59.680 Tarantino, and make slides in your movie about 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:03.009 different chapters. You can do that, but don't 00:22:03.009 --> 00:22:05.109 make one of them leadership and then have Marlon 00:22:05.109 --> 00:22:08.049 Wayans and Tariq Withers ski -shooting a mascot 00:22:08.049 --> 00:22:10.670 for a minute and then go to the next one and 00:22:10.670 --> 00:22:13.190 expect me to get anything out of that. I don't 00:22:13.190 --> 00:22:16.609 know what the fuck that even was. It was a good 00:22:16.609 --> 00:22:19.990 shot. That's what that was. Tone it down to a 00:22:19.990 --> 00:22:23.410 certain level. Not every movie has to be Pulp 00:22:23.410 --> 00:22:26.470 Fiction or Citizen Kane. Take it for what it 00:22:26.470 --> 00:22:28.670 is. I think this movie could have been a lot 00:22:28.670 --> 00:22:31.599 better. Honestly, the Waves director took this 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:34.099 thing on or whatever. Or if Jordan Peele directed 00:22:34.099 --> 00:22:35.700 it, it obviously would have been way better. 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:39.359 Or, hey, if Zack Kreger directed it. Don't get 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:42.960 me started on that. But, yeah, I think that's 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:47.319 all we got on him. So we give this a 5 .2 out 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:51.660 of 10, which is lower than Conjuring. But they're 00:22:51.660 --> 00:22:54.140 around the same ballpark. Honestly, I would rather 00:22:54.140 --> 00:22:57.240 rewatch him just because it's an original script. 00:22:57.420 --> 00:23:00.589 They tried something. Also only an hour and 30 00:23:00.589 --> 00:23:05.670 minutes. Yeah, not that long. I will say though, 00:23:05.769 --> 00:23:08.410 it was the longest hour and 30 minutes I ever 00:23:08.410 --> 00:23:14.829 sat through. Yeah, it was fine. Julia Fox wasn't 00:23:14.829 --> 00:23:18.210 as bad of an actor as I thought she was going 00:23:18.210 --> 00:23:24.950 to be. I guess. We'll be back next Tuesday with 00:23:24.950 --> 00:23:27.769 another one. Until then, peace out. Deuces.