1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,200 And then he gave that infamous fist pump that will be remembered forever in history. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,920 And it was amazing to watch. I mean, we don't get into politics on the show, 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,960 raising his fist right after the guy was almost murdered. 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,440 None of your business, Oshi. None of your business, Michael. 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,120 It's the None of Your Business podcast, hosted by Michael and Oshi. 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:32,000 We are back everybody for another amazing episode of the None of Your Business podcast. 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,560 Please don't forget to like, subscribe, follow. We're out there. We're on Apple, 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,720 we're on Spotify, we're on all platforms. And we would appreciate your feedback, 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,000 whether it's constructive feedback, whether it's positive, we'll even take the negative. 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,480 Thank you again, of course, Prime source for sponsoring and making all this a possibility. 11 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:54,320 Just being with you and talking with you is amazing. And what we're about to do is 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:01:00,640 embark on a journey of talking about how current events affect us on our daily life. 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,400 Yeah, I think that it's important when you see an event taking place, 14 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:12,400 is to have your own little takeaway from it, right? A message should be received that you take away, 15 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,480 right? There's obviously the grand message. There's the broader message that the masses are, 16 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,520 you know, are talking about and they're perhaps even arguing about and they're seeing things 17 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:28,240 differently and debates ensue. But everybody should have their own little messaging for 18 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:33,920 themselves, their personal takeaway that they can incorporate them into their lives to either make 19 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:39,040 a change, either to try to make them happier or whatever it might be. But I think it's very 20 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,840 essential that everybody puts their own little twist on it and applies it to themselves. 21 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,640 And I have to tell you, since October 7th, I have not turned on the news. And before October 7th, 22 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:54,560 it was years before I turned on the news, but I had to, I just had to see what was going on in 23 00:01:54,560 --> 00:02:01,680 the world this week. It was amazing. An attempt assassination on Donald Trump of all people. 24 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,960 And the day, you know, I just learned that it was that week that he was being nominated officially. 25 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,920 It was someone tried taking him out literally the week that he was being officially nominated. It 26 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:17,120 was the timing of it was crazy. And I turned on the news and I was stuck to it. I was, I was stuck 27 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:22,800 to it for a couple of hours, but all I kept doing is thinking, what can we learn from all of this? 28 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,320 And that's what I like about what we're going to do here. And that's what I like about what we're 29 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,920 doing in general. And then none of your business podcasts. Yeah, I agree. I think that first of 30 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:34,640 all, it's very hard not to turn the news on these days. I mean, everybody has a cell phone, right? 31 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:39,200 And everybody gets notifications and there's news everywhere you go, wherever you go, return. Also, 32 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,560 people are talking about it, right? You're conversing with people. So naturally you're 33 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,680 going to hear what's going on. So it's hard to be blind to it. But yeah, the news has been, you know, 34 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:54,080 not so, not so kind. It hasn't been, you know, a lot of pleasant things happening. And it's important, 35 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:59,040 you know, to try to keep up with what's going on. Don't get too sucked in, you know, don't get too 36 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,280 invested in everything that's happening. The world is an ending, you know, it's, it's, it's still a 37 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:08,320 wonderful place with lots of nice things going on as well and good people. But it's important that 38 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,840 you try to understand everything that's going on and apply it in a positive way, apply it in some 39 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,600 type of positive way that'll, that'll make it, that'll make it better for yourself. So I'm excited. 40 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:23,200 I'm excited to talk about it. Let's get going. Let's do it today. It's once again, you and I 41 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,880 getting deep into conversation about what's going on with us, what's going on in the world 42 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:34,480 and what we can learn from it. I feel like this is episode number 9,000, Michael. I feel like all we 43 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:40,000 do now is just talk about podcasting or we're actually doing the podcast. I feel like this is 44 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,400 like our whole life now. I like it every day. It's like, wait a second. Should we talk about this now 45 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,280 or should we save it for the podcast? It's like, you know, we need to remember that we also want 46 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,840 to live our lives. We want to just live in, you know, in the moment. You know what it is, what it 47 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:00,080 is. It is what it is. You know, it is what it is. It's probably the most overused phrase. I think 48 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,560 everybody says it throughout the course of their week. Everybody says at one point what it is. 49 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,160 What does that mean? Why are they saying that? Because they don't have what to say. They don't 50 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,160 have what to say next. So they're just like, it's a cop out. It is a cop out. That's a hundred percent 51 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,320 a cop. It is what it is. Just forget about it. Move on. Don't ask any more questions. Yeah. 52 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,920 You know, we all do it. We all do it. You know who doesn't say it is what it is? Mr. Donald Trump. 53 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:27,120 No, no, no, no. He is the essence of it is what it is. He is what it is. Yeah, that's what he is. 54 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,800 That's what he is. He's living on his own planet, by the way, this guy. There's a planet. There's 55 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,440 the planet Earth and there's planet Donald Trump. That's what there is. He's created a whole new 56 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:42,880 class of what it means to just really not care what anybody else thinks. He just does his own thing. 57 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,560 He projects so much confidence. And in the beginning, when people just got to know 58 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,400 Donald Trump, people who weren't watching him, like, you know, his show, The Apprentice, and 59 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,080 people weren't watching him. People watched from afar. But then everybody got to really, you know, 60 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:02,640 got exposed to Donald Trump. He came across a little bit at first, like it was it wasn't so 61 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,520 pleasant. You know, he was very cocky, very arrogant. You're fired. Yeah. Yeah. That was 62 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:12,160 that was his claim to fame in the beginning. That was a guy that fires everybody. Right. Right. And 63 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,400 he always looked very like talking about himself, always touting his own accomplishments and which 64 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,760 was clearly most of them were exaggerated, if not even made up, you know, and it was off putting. 65 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,880 It was very off putting. But there's a method to the madness. I mean, after a while, you realize, 66 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,680 wait a second, I think he's onto something. I think this guy's onto something. And I think 67 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,040 that we should all take something away from this and learn from it. We all should learn from this. 68 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Sometime it's okay to exude unwarranted confidence. Sometimes it's not about whether or not it's 69 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,360 actually true. And if it isn't true, think it to be true, and it will become true eventually. 70 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,560 Manifesting, manifesting. Exactly. You manifest something, and then you never know becomes a 71 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,440 reality. You know, it's interesting, I watched the clip, and I'm sure most people did years ago, 72 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,680 when they asked him, Would you ever run for president? And he said, I would if I needed to. 73 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,720 He did this clips of him saying this years and years ago. I think Oprah Winfrey Oprah Winfrey, 74 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,720 they asked him, you know, would you ever consider running for president, he's becoming very popular 75 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,480 was a very wealthy man. And somebody in the audience asked an Oprah turned to him like to 76 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:19,840 see what he would say. And he said that if it came down to it, and I felt like it was necessary, 77 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:24,720 I would run because he was arrogant enough to actually think that he could run one day. 78 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:31,360 And you know what, by God, he actually did. He did. He actually manifested it. But he has this 79 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,880 level of confidence that I don't think anyone in the world possesses. So I mean, paralleled to 80 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,840 anything. Yeah, it makes me wonder actually, at times, like, is, is this calculated confidence? 81 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:46,960 Is he is he promoting something? When the assassination attempt happened on his life, 82 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,440 and hearing that one of the first things that he was worried about was, where's my shoe? 83 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,640 Do you remember that? Yes. Where's my shoe? Why did he care where his shoes was? Why was 84 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,360 that on his mind? The first thing I think he cared about where his shoe was, because he knew 85 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:07,040 he was going to be exited off the stage. And he possesses in his mind that confidence and knowing 86 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,720 that I need to look my A game 24 seven, I'm being watched. He knows it. He's like, where's my shoe? 87 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:18,720 I am not walking off the stage without my shoe. I have a bloody head, but I need my shoe. And then 88 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:26,240 he gave that infamous fist pump that will be remembered forever in history. And it was amazing 89 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,480 to watch. I mean, we don't get into politics on this show, but it'll be that image of the four 90 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,640 soldiers that are playing flag flag round, right? Yeah, yeah, it'll be that and then there'll be 91 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:40,160 Donald Trump raising his fist right after the guy was almost murdered. And that's what he was 92 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:45,360 thinking about, which most of us, if not all of us, like at that moment, I'd be like, get me out of 93 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,680 here. Get me out of here. I don't want to, I don't want to be here anymore. I don't want to see what's 94 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,880 coming next. I want to first, you know, I want to go to a safe place. Not this guy, because again, 95 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:00,800 he's so full of himself. He's so into himself that everything for him is a show at every moment. He 96 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,920 thinks the world is watching me and what do I want them to see? And it's madness. If you think about 97 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,840 it's really madness, but works and it works so well that I think there could only be one person 98 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,800 like this in the world. Do you think there's room for two people like this in the world? Maybe in 99 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,200 another country. I don't even know that. I didn't, I don't think the world can handle another person 100 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,560 like that. He fills the room. He fills the room. There's no space for anybody else. He does, but he 101 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,800 deserves to fill the room. And honestly, because he manifested that confidence and because he 102 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,200 understands that people are watching him, I think he's doing the right thing. I think what I want to 103 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:39,120 make a point about this is that I think everybody can take away a tiny piece of Donald Trump, whether 104 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,480 you like him, whether you don't like him, that doesn't matter. That's not the point here. That's 105 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,040 not the conversation I want to have. But what I think all of us, even from your worst enemies, 106 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,080 you could learn something from, right? Somebody who doesn't like him could still learn something 107 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,520 from him. It's very small minded of people. If all they do is just say, you know what, this, he's a 108 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,840 terrible person and everything about him is bad. There's nothing good you could find in everybody. 109 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:05,360 There's always something good. I think everybody can take away from Donald Trump is to always hold 110 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,360 yourself to a certain standard, no matter what anybody else tells you, whether you're worthy, 111 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,000 whether you're not worthy, you think you are, and everybody should have some of that. Everybody 112 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:19,600 should have a little bit of that confidence in themselves so they prop themselves up and you'll 113 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,280 be a better person for it. You'll be a better person. You're saying there's a certain level of 114 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:28,560 perhaps a God complex that may work for some people. Like if they manifest it in terms of 115 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:34,880 thinking, I am the best that I need to be or I mean, think about it. It's a matrix. I mean, 116 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:41,280 he's gone through indictments that's been thrown out. He's gone through so many challenges that 117 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:47,520 have been thrown out in terms of his ability to overcome without even trying even. He's just, 118 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,240 he's being himself. And because he's being himself, the opportunity just keep coming to him. 119 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,440 And that's what I think is the beautiful idea of manifesting this, what I'm calling a God complex, 120 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,080 but you're saying is that he has this confidence. He does. He has this major confidence and he's 121 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,680 been knocked down by pretty much everybody. You know, it's crazy though, even though he comes 122 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:10,640 across as cocky perhaps, and there's many things that people could say about him. I think for the 123 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,640 second time in my life, at least that I've seen Donald Trump and I've been following him because 124 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,480 he's entertaining, to be honest with you, I mean, way back from The Apprentice, I mean, it was a show 125 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,720 that went over a decade and I was entertained by him. It's like the same reason why people love 126 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,960 watching American Idol for Simon Cowell. You know, they want to see what he's going to say. What's 127 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,120 he going to do next? Same thing with The Apprentice. You look forward to the end to see who was going 128 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,360 to be fired and what was he going to say, right? It was just interesting to see. So, but for the 129 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:41,840 second time in my life, I saw a different Donald Trump. Just yesterday at the RNC when he was 130 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:48,800 nominated officially, I saw a more humbled, emotional Donald Trump that I saw at one time before a 131 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,840 couple of years ago when unfortunately his first wife, Ivana, passed away. And he was like, you 132 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:59,120 know, for the first time humbled and emotional. This was on the higher degree. He walked in and 133 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:04,000 he had that confidence, but you saw something different. You definitely saw that big bandage 134 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:10,480 that they put on his ear. They found the... It was almost comical. I'm surprised that they didn't get 135 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:17,520 Band-Aid or Johnson & Johnson to pay for an ad on that ear, but from that, I mean, it was moving. 136 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:22,960 Yeah. He's been much more presidential this time around. And I think that it's by design. I think 137 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:29,360 that he has really taken consultation and he's taken counsel from people close to him. You think 138 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,520 he's listening to others? Of course. I always felt like he doesn't listen. He has to listen. I mean, 139 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,560 nobody can do the kinds of things he's doing all by themselves. They have to have a team of people 140 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:42,720 that are working with you. And the issue with him was that he was always rogue, right? He was always 141 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:48,640 somebody who just did whatever he wanted at all costs, even through his own detriment. But this 142 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:56,240 time around, it just seems like he's been really keeping himself in a much more subtle way about 143 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,760 things. He's not just, you know, doing things in this flashy way that's like, you know, very extreme. 144 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,880 He's been much more, you know, collected and he's honing it all in. And he's definitely been much 145 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,560 more presidential, I think, this time around. Do you think the life circumstances of what happened 146 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:15,520 here is going to really affect the way he behaves? Absolutely. Perhaps he's not going to be as quick 147 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,320 to put the button as people portrayed him to be. Yeah. And also he's coming at the tail end of his 148 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,920 life. You know, he doesn't have a whole lot of time. Did you know that he was the oldest, 149 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,960 first oldest president to ever run and come president at 70 years old? He was the oldest 150 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:34,080 president. Right. When he became president. Yeah. And you're talking about stamina at the age of 70 151 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,400 and he's only older now. And I think this gives him the energy, you know, sort of like us, when 152 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,720 we walk into a room and the people give us the energy, this is like on the next level. Yeah. But 153 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,360 I don't know if this is so much about his energy. It's just more about his presence. It stands for 154 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,560 something. Right. When he walks into the room, comes along with the whole persona behind him. 155 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:57,280 And I think that is what captivates people. You know, one thing I could not help but notice, 156 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,760 and there's video clips of this all over the place. And there's example after example about this. And 157 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:07,680 to me, this is how I think of Donald Trump. I think of him as a leader. He walks into a room 158 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:12,080 with a lot of world leaders and people from, you know, we're talking about leaders from, you know, 159 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:18,720 the free world, right? From the UK and from France and from Italy, from all over Germany. 160 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,680 And he walks into the room and Vladimir Putin is in the room. And he's shaking each person's 161 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:29,520 hand one by one. And he grabs Putin's hands when he shakes them. And he takes his hand as he's 162 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:35,440 shaking and he pulls it towards him. That's a power move. Right. That's a power move. 163 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,000 I love watching it. Right. There's actually a scene with him and President Obama, when 164 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:46,240 they both have that power move. And it was so amazing to watch a person here, give me your hand 165 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:51,200 a second, pull him and then him back. But then one person put the hand on the other and then the 166 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,360 other and then the shoulder. And it was like, no one does it like him. No one does it quite like 167 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,520 him. He did it much. And in the beginning, people would say that that's off putting like, what's this 168 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:04,320 guy do? Who does he think he is? But now that I'm seeing the whole story play out and I'm seeing 169 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:09,280 that as this all unfolds, I'm like, wait a second, there's something here. This is not a joke. This 170 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,880 is not an act. This is really who he is. And at the end of the day, he's representing us. This is the 171 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:21,760 power that let's face it, the world needs a strong America. I don't care what anybody says. We are 172 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:28,720 the moral compass of the world. Any other country, we hope that we are, we should be. Well, when we're 173 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,880 not, if there comes a day, God forbid, very detrimental, we're in big trouble. The whole 174 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:38,880 world is in big, big trouble. Yeah. Right. So having the leader of the free world be a person 175 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:44,400 that leads by example and a person that leads by power and doesn't lead by weakness, he leads by 176 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,840 power. That's the kind of person that power, you know, what kind of power, the power of being the 177 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:55,360 first sitting president to ever visit Kim Jong-un. That's power. The first sitting president. I mean, 178 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:00,160 think about that. He's just, he has that energy and that positivity that he brings into a room. 179 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:06,800 And the way he shakes your hand physically is the way he shakes your, your emotions mentally. 180 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,200 You should know a lot of people, myself included in the beginning, kind of, you know, had raised 181 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:16,160 eyebrows about that when he went to meet with Kim Jong-un, because at the end of the day, 182 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:22,400 you're giving a little bit of validity to him, right? As a world leader, when, when the president 183 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:28,640 of America goes and visits with him, by the way, basically in his territory, right? I mean, right? 184 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,840 The outskirts of North Korea is where they met. It really does give him a little bit of credence 185 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,640 and it was questionable. Should he do that? And I myself was like, I don't know if I liked it. 186 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,840 I'm not so sure if I liked it. But again, now that I'm seeing as the story is unfolding, I'm learning 187 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,800 more and more about him. I'm realizing it was a power move. It was basically him coming and saying, 188 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,560 you better shape up. Like you can't do your tricks anymore. There's a whole, there's a new sheriff in 189 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,600 town. Things are different in this country, right? Now again, I don't want to get too political. I 190 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,400 don't want to, you know, prop him up too much and I don't want to put him down either. I'm a fan, 191 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,640 but at the same time, you know, I'm, I'm a little bit wary, you know, I'm not, I'm not born into 192 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:16,080 everything, right? There's a lot of good and there's some bad too and that's fine, but it's 193 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,880 entertaining. And it's a story, you know, he started with the show with the apprentice. I feel like 194 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,880 there's still a reality show playing and he just doubled down. And right now he's just doing it at 195 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:29,600 a bigger scale. He's not any more employing, you know, 10, 15 people who's going to get the job 196 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,920 working at Trump tower. He's now interviewing people who's going to run the world is basically 197 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:39,760 what he's, he's, he's just up the ante with his reality TV. It's on. Do you think that people 198 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,880 have influence on someone like him? Because it's unbelievable. The way I see it is the fact that 199 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:50,880 if you, if you're around someone that maintains such composure under pressure and brings in a 200 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:56,080 crazy amount of energy and power, who can suggest anything to him? Who can give him any ideas that 201 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:01,440 you'll ever listen to? We can all agree that one of the biggest problems when it comes to politicians 202 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:08,640 is them being in other people's pockets and them being influenced to make certain decisions based 203 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:15,840 on a few people that are lobbying, that are, that are paying for it, that are giving him favors or 204 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:21,120 whatever they're doing to curry his, his favor with president Trump. I think we can all agree 205 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,640 nobody is getting in a favor with it. He doesn't need anybody's favors, nor does he want it, nor 206 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,280 does he need it. And I think that's very assuring. I think maybe from a monetary standpoint, but I 207 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,320 think everyone can always use someone somewhere. And the truth is we're all guilty of that, but 208 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,640 money is the number one thing that really drives people. But that's dangerous. And with him though, 209 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,240 I don't think money gets, gets anybody anywhere. But it's dangerous. I think that as a world, 210 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:49,280 as a society, I think we do better when we need things from other people. I, I'm not so 211 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,840 in a favor, in favor of having someone that doesn't need anything from anybody. You're talking about 212 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,600 me and you, and that's fine. I agree with you. Yeah. But when we're talking about somebody in 213 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,000 the position that that's being the president or being in such an important position, you want to 214 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,560 make sure there's no biases there. You want to make sure that everything is just, I don't know, 215 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,320 then it's more like a dictator. I actually think that I want someone to have some sort of influence 216 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,240 on him. But do we trust his judgment though? That's the question. Do we trust his judgment? 217 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,160 Do we want to give over the full autonomy for him to make these decisions because he's proven 218 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:23,120 himself that he really genuinely cares about making the country great. And that's what he 219 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:27,120 wants to do. And nothing short of that. When you start a company, all right, let's take our company, 220 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:32,160 PrimeSource, for example, I'm just going to throw that in there is, you know, we started the business 221 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:37,600 without having to give anyone a service because we built the service out of a need in the industry. 222 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Right? Think of the difference when you start a business with someone that gives you an infusion 223 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,000 of cash. So you have to listen to him, someone that gives you an infusion of business. So then 224 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,600 you have to listen to that person, right? Wondering what the difference is in general, 225 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,320 when you start business one way versus the other, easier way versus the not so easier way, 226 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,400 becoming a president and not needing anybody, becoming a president and actually needing someone. 227 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,160 I don't know. I think there's something to be to be learned from this. I think it's important. I'm 228 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,320 going back to what I said a minute ago. I think it in business, perhaps you can look at it and 229 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,960 just look at the differences between the two. It helps you when you have someone that influences 230 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,880 you. It helps you when you can use favors from others. Obviously, you don't want the foundation 231 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,760 to be built on it, because you have less favors that you have to do for others. I'm just a fan of 232 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:25,920 everyone needing something from everyone sometimes. I don't like the idea of someone being on such a 233 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,840 level that he doesn't need anything from anyone. I think Mike Bloomberg actually ran on that. 234 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,640 His campaign also was that he had all the money in the world and he didn't need anything from 235 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:40,080 anybody. And he also went on that platform. And it scared me then also and it scares me now as well. 236 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:47,520 I kind of like it. I actually think that when you have any other variables other than what the 237 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:53,760 purity of it is, it taints it. And automatically, you're starting to skew your decision making, 238 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,960 not based on what is best for the company, not based on what's best for the country, 239 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,840 based on some personal agendas, based on some other variables that's got nothing to do with 240 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:09,360 the task at hand. I think that's a dangerous thing. I think how do you not want someone who 241 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:13,360 you can trust more to make a decision because you know he doesn't need that and that's not why he 242 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:17,120 made that decision. It's not because he wanted to pocket another million dollars. The guy's got to 243 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:22,160 guys got a billion dollars in the bank. He wasn't swayed by somebody offering him a little bit of 244 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,280 money. I would trust that guy a lot faster than I would trust some other guy who came up with 245 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:33,200 investments through other people who are investing in him that when he gets to a position of power, 246 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,480 he'll be able to return the favors. Those are the scariest people. Those are the ones that I don't 247 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,120 want to have as my leaders because they're not interested in what's best for us. But nothing, 248 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:47,680 zero, zero, zero scares me. I think the less the better. Zero scares me. I heard someone once tell 249 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,840 me, I think it was actually my brother David, who I hope to have on the show here, who can break down 250 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,800 politics for us in a way that can be understood in our world and what we can learn from it. But he 251 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:03,600 told me once that influence in our community is better than power. Think about that for a second. 252 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,160 It's better to have influence than it is to have power because when you have power, everyone wants 253 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:14,240 to knock you or everyone wants to just step all over you. So I'm just using that understanding 254 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,880 and taking that to the next level of saying too much power skips me. I don't know. I'm going back 255 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,760 to what I said earlier. I think too much power scares me a little bit. You want to hear something 256 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:29,520 interesting about power? You ever heard of Amon Gorth? No. Okay. So he was a vicious SS officer 257 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:36,480 in Nazi Germany. And he ran, I forget which camp it was specifically, but he ran one of the camps 258 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,800 in Nazi Germany. And he was known to be just purely evil. They were all evil, but he was especially 259 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:47,680 evil. He took personal pride in the kill count of how many people he himself personally murdered. 260 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,000 It wasn't just about how many people got murdered around him, but how much he had a hand in it. 261 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:59,760 And he was a terrible, terrible person. And when he was in the, like in a, it was a story. He was 262 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:05,440 in the middle of, you know, just randomly shooting people and Oscar Schindler, who they made a movie 263 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:12,640 about beautifully made movie. One of the all time classics, Tish Above movie. Tish Above movie. 264 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,560 Some people watched them Tish Above. Yeah. And if you've seen it, you should see it again. Absolutely. 265 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,000 You should see it again. You learn something every time. It's an amazing, amazing movie. So 266 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,760 Oscar Schindler, like he knew he had to kind of, you know, you have to put a little bit of, 267 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,600 you can't put a stop to it, but he had to try to minimize it a little bit. So he told Amon 268 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,760 Gorth something so profound that Amon Gorth actually bought into it. And he said to him, 269 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:39,280 you know what power is? Power isn't the ability to kill whenever you please. That's not power. 270 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:47,760 Power is having the ability to kill whenever you please and choosing not to. That's power. 271 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:53,120 Wow. Is when you can do something, have the ability, no one's going to stop you. It's in 272 00:22:53,120 --> 00:23:01,360 your hands and you control yourself and you decide not to. That is the ultimate power that 273 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:06,720 a person can strive for. Wow. You know, that resonates a lot with me because throughout my 274 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,800 journey of life, I'm always looking to explore and grow, which is one of the things we're trying to 275 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:16,960 do here on the None of Your Business podcast. And it just, this is something that I've learned 276 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:22,800 about myself over and over again, in terms of, you know, decisions to have self-control. 277 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:27,520 I think that, you know, it resonates with me because I've read about it and I've tried to 278 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,960 manifest it as much as I can in my life. Self-control actually makes us happier. 279 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:40,080 If you have self-control over something and you empower yourself to control that, whatever 280 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:45,440 madness it is, or, you know, addictive personality you may have, I think that's a recipe for happiness 281 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:51,600 in life. And I like to use that as my recipe in terms of self-control. Things that I, I have a 282 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,800 difficult time and I have to maybe control myself sometimes. I wonder what those are for you, Ashi. 283 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:02,560 Well, I'll tell you, it's very satisfying. There's no better feeling than holding yourself back from 284 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,440 somebody that you know is wrong and still not doing it, right? That's power, is that you're able to, 285 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,640 the willpower, that's a type of power, right? It's very gratifying. The reason why it's so gratifying 286 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:19,280 is because it's so hard. It's so difficult. As human beings, we're wired to do certain things, 287 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:24,560 right? Our DNA, we're designed to do things in a certain way. And if we don't do it that way, 288 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,360 we're going against our nature. Did this animal think it was wrong to kill Jews? I wonder. 289 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:33,520 Meaning, you're talking about the idea of control. When he was killing, and Oscar Schindler told him, 290 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:39,600 power is choosing not to kill. It's profound. Don't get me wrong, but I'm just wondering the mindset. 291 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,840 Did he actually think it was wrong to kill Jews? I mean, when he heard it, it kind of sat with him 292 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:49,600 and he processed it because ultimately this was, this was about power. Right. They wanted, they 293 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,880 felt like they were the superior race, right? And they were true nationalists at its core. I mean, 294 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,760 that's what a real, real nationalist is. Right. Nationalists can go both ways, but they used it 295 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:05,280 in the negative connotation, right? They actually believe that the Aryan race was the most superior 296 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:10,480 race in the world. And they recognized other races. It wasn't like they believed they should 297 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,240 be the only race, but they were the superior race and they were willing to play ball with other races 298 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,560 as well. Obviously, the Jewish race- As long as it's not Jewish. The Jewish race, it wasn't just 299 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,720 Jews. They hated a lot of different, a lot of different types of people, different races, 300 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:28,160 different creeds, different orientations, but they, they specifically, but they started, you know, 301 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:34,640 with the Jews and that was their end game. But it's not so much about the power that they're 302 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,760 striving for. It's everybody wants to come out on top. Everybody wants to be better than the next 303 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,320 person. That's what power is. Right. Power is that I can do things that you can't do. You know what 304 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:50,400 the biggest power is, is on yourself. If you have power over yourself, over your own body, over your 305 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,600 own mind. I mean, that's power that if you can attain that- That's the self-control that I was 306 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,360 referring to. If you can, if you want to die happy, like that's the way to do it. Do you think that, 307 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:05,680 that the idea of confidence through competitiveness comes from that desire of power? Like you're, 308 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,760 you're a pretty competitive person, if I may. I mean, you play baseball, you're on a league. 309 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,880 You were telling me earlier that you played last night. Oh, by the way, got to hear this. Yes. 310 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:20,960 Last night. Okay. We had an event. Okay. And there was a good amount of drinking going on at this 311 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:27,760 event, like all good events are. And I remembered that I had a baseball game that night and it's 312 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:33,680 fine. I'll figure it out. I'll still be able to play. And I kept drinking merrily along. 313 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,360 And then it came time and I had a few people drive me to the game. I couldn't even drive anymore. 314 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:42,320 So people, they drove me to the game and I get there. And it was a whole different experience. 315 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:48,160 And I really think I need to do this again. I have to test the waters. I have to see how far it could 316 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,680 take this. This is your league, your baseball league? Yeah. It's a baseball league that we have 317 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,200 in the community. What positions do you play? So I play a few different positions, depends, you know, 318 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,440 what's needed, but mostly I catch. When you're drunk, what do you play? No, I didn't play a 319 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,840 position in the field last night because I, cause you couldn't. I knew my limitations. I knew that 320 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:10,000 there's only so much. But you got up a bat. Yes, I did. So I got up to bat and it was wild. First of 321 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,800 all, I was very happy. I wasn't, it wasn't like the anxiety or like the competitiveness, that part 322 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,360 sort of peeled away. And I just wanted to play for the sport of it, for the fun. I think that's the 323 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:23,360 way it was meant to be. Wow. That was, I think that's what sports are supposed to be. What happens 324 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:28,080 to your competitive? We've corrupted it. And somehow because humans, we like to always win. 325 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,560 And sometimes we lose that enjoyment. We lose the enjoyment aspect of it, which is really what, 326 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:39,520 what the core of it is meant for. I think that I discovered the way to actually have the enjoyment 327 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,600 and the fun and still have some competitiveness because your mind isn't totally gone. You're 328 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,400 still getting a little wasted, a little waste, not to the point that you blacking out or you gotta 329 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,160 still hit a triple and you can't play, but I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you, I, I'm excited for the 330 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,280 next sport. I don't know. I'm, I'm curious. What else, how far can I take this? Maybe tennis. I love 331 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,360 tennis. I love playing tennis. Now tennis I'm a little bit weary about because there's a lot 332 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,720 of movement back and forth, back and forth. And you know, if you're inebriated, you're probably 333 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,160 going to stumble a lot. You're probably going to, it's not going to be that easy. If there was a 334 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,720 sport to play inebriated, I think baseball would be it. Definitely. Yeah. Because there's very little 335 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,440 movement required of you. Right. So you're, because it's a boring game. Yeah. Yeah. My last, my last, 336 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:23,280 at bat, I actually stroked a line drive single. I'm very proud of it while I was drunk. I may add. 337 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,600 And when I got the first base though, I got a runner to substitute to run or pinch runner to 338 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,720 run for me because I knew I'm not making it at the second base. No way. There's no way. Now for all 339 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,560 those listening, I don't want anybody to think that, you know, I'm an alcoholic who, who does 340 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,040 all my activities drunk. This was an anomaly. This was, this was my first time. It's a discovery. 341 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,000 It was my first time ever that I've done something like this, but I have to tell you, 342 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,680 I have to tell you, Michael, I kind of liked. Wow. As a disclaimer, the None of Your Business 343 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,400 podcast does not contone children to drink while playing baseball. We don't condone children 344 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,520 listening to this podcast. Thank you, Steph. I appreciate that. Yeah. You know, I will tell 345 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,080 you something that the fun of the game is really where it's at. I mean, you know, we're, we're 346 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,920 going to an event tonight. Uh, Prime source proudly hosts the Zimmit opening party every year. It's 347 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,520 the Zimmit conference. Very excited about it. Mr. Mark Zimmit is a leader, a thought leader 348 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,280 in the industry of reimbursement for the senior care world. How long has it been? How many years 349 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,440 is he doing this? I mean, he's doing it for a long time. I remember going there like 10 years 350 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,080 ago already. Yeah. We started, we started the opening party almost seven years ago and it is 351 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,560 a party. Big part. And, uh, you know, I'm thinking now, you know, every time when I'm at the party, 352 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,080 I'm, I'm on my egg. You know, I don't eat when I go to trade shows. How could you, 353 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,600 a guy like you, I mean, you're busy out there just like meeting as many people as you can and just 354 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,080 networking and you're not taking care of yourself. You're just trying to meet people. And yeah, 355 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,640 this is where you do shine. I have to tell you, this is where you really do excel is when it comes 356 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,760 to common. Not everybody can do it, Michael. Right. Not everybody can do it because people 357 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,520 are very reserved. People are, it's out of their comfort zone. Not everybody likes meeting new 358 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:01,600 people. Can you imagine having to meet a plethora amount of new people? Just one person after the 359 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,800 next, after the next, it's just nonstop. There's over a 700 people plan on being here at the party 360 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,440 that we're throwing tonight. And look, there's bowling, there's arcades, we have a karaoke room 361 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,680 and the idea of networking is just meeting people. But of course there's drinking that goes on, 362 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,680 you know, it happens, you know, and why is it that why do we always have to have drinking 363 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,040 at an event where we want to have a good time? Do you know of any event that we do, 364 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,680 any type of party that does not involve alcohol, I'll tell you that we enjoy the event all the same. 365 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,280 I'll tell you this event. Well, actually this event, I believe you don't have to drink alcohol 366 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:36,160 to have a good time. The beauty of having an arcade there and a bowling and just enjoying each 367 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,880 other's company is the fact that it's high energy nonsense. I feed off other people's energy. That's 368 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,080 last for me, Michael, you're talking now, you're making up what you just said, please delete, 369 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,520 wipe out. It's totally false, completely false. There hasn't been, I don't think since the Coliseum 370 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,680 days, when there were probably also had like bars on the side somewhere and they were selling drinks 371 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:02,640 over there. Alcohol is infused in our lives everywhere we turn. They advertise it on TV all 372 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,360 day. I mean, you go to a ball game, there's alcohol. You go to synagogue some point, there's 373 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:13,680 alcohol. I mean, we've incorporated it into our lives. I mean, it's just you can't look away. 374 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:19,200 Wherever you look, there's alcohol. Why is that? When did this happen? Why could we only be 375 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,920 fun and happy when there's alcohol involved? What does that say about it? It's a great question. 376 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:31,520 And I agree that it's a topic to be discussed. And I hope, you know, that we have to ask 377 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,320 whereby Spivak where this comes from. You know what, you know, when he comes on the show, 378 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,360 you ask him, you know, like, why can't we go to a dinner and not have alcohol? You ever went to a 379 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,960 dinner lately and didn't have a glass of wine? Again, I haven't. I go to dinner. I get a glass 380 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,080 of wine. Get all the people that get invited to weddings and show up and there's no bar. Right. 381 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,760 The people get all angry. I'm leaving the wedding. How dare they? They got me to come to this wedding 382 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:02,560 and they didn't provide drinks. We get, we get so angry. They call it a dry wedding, right? That's 383 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,760 that's the term. I like that. I never heard it's a dry wedding, a dry wedding and on the word, 384 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,960 it's a dry wedding. It's a dry event. Yeah. I have to tell you though, um, I'm not a big fan of 385 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,920 drinking in general. I love having a glass of wine that compliments the situation that we're in, 386 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,560 like the none of your business podcast or on, you know, Friday night when having a meal or going out 387 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,280 for dinner or even having an event and maybe perhaps getting at bat a little inebriated. 388 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:33,600 I'm a, I like the concept, but there's a lot to talk about. Um, you know, we, we will be having 389 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,400 a guest on our show, Rabbi Spivak, and that is my pick for the person that I want. You know how, 390 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,040 like we always ask our guests, like, you know, our guest co-host, who do you think we should have on 391 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,320 the, on the next podcast? I think it should be Rabbi Spivak. I'm a big fan and I'm a big fan. 392 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,760 And I know Rabbi Spivak for a while already, but I never actually really got to know him. And I've 393 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,640 seen him a lot of times. I had known for over 15 years. I mean, I know him back when I was a counselor 394 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,520 in camp and he was a learning Rebbe there. And I got to know him then. And how would you ask the 395 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:10,880 question? How would I pose the question? What is it about us that we're lacking that we need to replace 396 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:16,960 with alcohol to make us feel like we're in a good place and like we're happy? What, what is it that 397 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:23,120 we can do that we're missing that is genuine, is real? Because obviously alcohol is not real. 398 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:28,080 Obviously it's just forcing us into a place where maybe we don't have to think as much, right? Our 399 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,480 minds become a little convoluted and we feel good. Like we forget about our problems a little bit, 400 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,520 wherever it might be. There's obviously a void that we're filling with the alcohols. No doubt about 401 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:43,840 it. So the question is, where else can I fill that void? Now, a good Rabbi will tell you, you know, 402 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,600 you fill it with spiritual things, right? Those are the things that are gonna, that are gonna make 403 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,760 you the happiest. That's a great answer. And I can appreciate that. Like the next person, 404 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,600 I want to hear something more. We're not getting him on the show to ask him for him to tell us 405 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,080 spiritual. That's the thing. I don't think Rabbi Spivak will. I think that he has a lot more that 406 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,640 he could bring to the table to relate everyday things to everyday people. I think the question 407 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,520 that you're asking is a general question in life is why is it that it's such a necessity? 408 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,640 Um, you know, I will tell you though, letting loose is a good thing. I mean, you know, 409 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,440 from my perspective, Michael, we're letting loose everywhere. We don't miss an opportunity. That's 410 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,040 the thing that it's any, by the way, I want you to know this. This is a very important thing. I'm 411 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,720 about to tell you, no matter what it is, anything that it's too much of is not a good thing. Sure. 412 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:33,840 Okay. Even if it's, if it's, if it's money, right, if it's family time, which all sounds like an 413 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:39,440 amazing thing, too much of it, it starts bringing you down. Well, thank God I'm a Libra and I live 414 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,040 about balancing my life. And I want to say that I understand the challenge of, of alcohol or other 415 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,480 things that have to really, you know, loosen you up in terms of just, you know, being not in that 416 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,120 pressured world that you're in, right? People want to just, I guess that's the answer from my 417 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,280 perspective is that people are very pressured. You know, money pressure is a big deal. Everybody, 418 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,640 everybody's pressured. I think that everyone in this, we all have problems. I think that everybody's 419 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,040 in a bad dark place. No, no, that's already doing it too much. Now you're already taking it to the 420 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,280 next level, right? But I think it's very common spread. I think it's very widespread where a lot 421 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,800 of almost everybody we know is turned into alcohol very frequently, very, very often. You know, 422 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,680 somebody asked me once, you know, uh, in general, what was the best piece of advice you ever got? 423 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,000 And I said to him, the best piece of advice that, that someone wanted to give me is the best piece 424 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,080 of advice that I translated it into something else. Someone said to me, you want to be wealthy, 425 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,920 hang around wealthy people. And my answer to him was, and I think I told you this earlier, 426 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,080 is that I wanted to be happy. So I hang around happy people. And the truth is if you want to 427 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,520 smoke and you hang around smokers, you're going to see, there's a lot of smokers out there. If you 428 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,320 want to drink and you're going to hang around drinkers, you see a lot of drinkers out there. 429 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,320 You don't have to really be in that world. If you go to a wedding and there's a bar, 430 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,440 you could choose to be that person that's sitting at that bar, the entire wedding, 431 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:59,360 or just grab a glass of wine. It reminded me of a very famous joke. There's a elderly gentleman. 432 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,880 He's in his late eighties and he goes to see the doctor. You know, this joke, I'm excited to hear 433 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,120 a joke. Okay. He goes to see his dad. I don't know for a wellness checkup. He's an old man. 434 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,800 He's got to make sure he's keeping himself in line. He doesn't have a whole lot of time left. 435 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,800 He has very little room for error. So he goes to the doctor. He says, 436 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,360 he says, dad, check me out, please. He checks him out. And he said, I got some questions. He said, 437 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:28,560 so do you drink? He says, do you smoke? He says, no, I don't smoke. Of course not. He says, 438 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:34,080 do you sleep late? No, no, no. Every morning. And he goes through the list. And after the doctor, 439 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,800 why do you want to still live? Like what's going on? What are you looking forward to? 440 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:44,160 Like what you don't even live really life. You don't do much anyway. Like you go tomorrow. What's 441 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,560 the point? What's the difference? Do you understand what I'm saying? That's very sad. But I understand. 442 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,160 But it's a morbid thing. But at the end of the day, let's face it, all the good things in life, 443 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:57,360 all the good things in life will harm. Go back to self-control. It's even better to have that 444 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,200 self-control. That's the ultimate happiness. That's really what I truly believe in. I mean, 445 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,800 so I got to spend my entire life learning to have self-control. Yes. And then I get to a certain 446 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,720 point that I have self-control and I'm just doing all the right things and everything that we're 447 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:14,880 supposed to do as people and now what? Yeah. Your entire journey is to learn how to have more 448 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,760 self-control. I'm not saying complete self-control. Do you think Donald Trump drinks? No, it's very 449 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,360 well known that he doesn't drink. Right. This has been very well documented that he doesn't. You know 450 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,000 who else doesn't drink alcohol? Who's been, who accomplished something? No other person in the 451 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,360 world has accomplished. Okay. Mariano Rivera is a closer on the Yankees. He was a closer on the 452 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:38,160 Yankee. Very illustrious career. What was special about him? 19 years he pitched for the New York 453 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:44,480 Yankees. He has the most career saves from any pitcher by far. No one's even close. Maybe a 454 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,080 couple of guys have four or 500, but after that, no one has even close. 652 saves this guy had. 455 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,720 And you know what he said? He never drank an ounce of alcohol. Donald Trump never drank an 456 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:59,840 ounce of alcohol. So this goes further to my point. Apparently we're all missing that in our own 457 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,720 greatness because we're all busy drinking all day. Can you imagine if the world just stopped 458 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:08,720 drinking? Would everybody be Albert Einstein suddenly? Absolutely. Can you imagine if the whole 459 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:13,520 world was Donald Trump? No, that's too much. We already agree. There's no room for two Donald 460 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,160 Trumps. There can only be one. There can only be one. But think about it. Think about it. Are we 461 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,120 wasting away our talents? Are we not reaching the heights that we possibly could be because we're 462 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:28,960 drinking our lives away? And I'm making it sound very dramatic and look very excessive, but I'm 463 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:36,160 not that far off. I mean, let's face it. Drinking has become a real part of our life. A real 464 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,480 challenge. Yeah. A real problem. You go to a barbecue. You go to a barbecue. You bought the beer. 465 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,440 You bought the beer. Right? Like think of any other place where we go. I think one of the reasons why 466 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,080 I have to say, one of the reasons why is, you know, smoking was banned in restaurants. Remember when 467 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,960 you used to smoke in the back of planes? Yeah. Mayor Bloomberg to thank for most of that. So he 468 00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:01,200 took it to the next level. He basically banned soda from bars. Michael, do you remember going to 469 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:08,640 La Mare in the city and smoking on the second floor? Sure. Sure. I remember. And being there for hours. 470 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,560 Yeah. Cigars. People would smoke cigars up there. Part of the entertainment. But you know what 471 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,480 happened? You know what happened? Remember when he could smoke in casinos? Remember those days? 472 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,320 Think about it though. Go back a decade in your mind and think about how many people in your 473 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:25,600 community smoked then and how many people smoke now. Much less. Exactly. So it works. The idea of 474 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,960 banning smoking indoors works. I think the challenge of alcohol specifically is that there are no 475 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,920 limitations other than the age that you're able to buy it at. Besides that, it's a huge challenge. 476 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,880 And again, this is for another segment. It's available everywhere. It's another segment. You know 477 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,840 that I bought a pack of cigarettes and I've been very good. I'm buying like maybe, I don't know, 478 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,000 maybe a pack every couple of months. And then I probably smoke like four or five of them. And then 479 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,200 I throw out the rest, you know, or sit still in my car. I bought a pack before the event. And the 480 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,240 event was coming up. So I bought a pack in the gas station next to me. Do you know how much I paid 481 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:03,680 for a pack of cigarettes? I was shocked. I got to the register and I paid for it. How much is it? 482 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:10,400 I'm excited to hear. I did a double take. I was like, excuse me? How much is it? Guess how much 483 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:16,080 it was? In New York, a pack of cigarettes. Not in the city. Not in Manhattan. In a suburb. 484 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,000 How much was a pack of cigarettes? I really wouldn't know. I mean, it used to be four or five 485 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,600 bucks. No, I'm not talking about what it used to be. Okay. People remember when it was water. 486 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:29,360 I know the taxes are insane on it. I know the taxes are crazy. Take a guess. $14 a pack. Go. 487 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:37,520 $18. $17.50. $17.50. I paid $17.50. Now I lost that pack of cigarettes and I bought another pack. 488 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:44,400 Now that's a true story. I really lost it. Okay. By the way, I have it now because where I lost it, 489 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,640 I left it by somebody's house and that person returned it to me this morning. So now I have 490 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:55,920 two packs. I bought a second pack. Okay. I bought a second pack here in Jersey, next to our office, 491 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:04,880 $12.50. $12.50. And in New York, which is like 10 miles from here, $17.50. 492 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,040 Yeah. So New York is really behind the idea of quitting smoking. 493 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,640 You know who's responsible for this? You know who taxed the, you know what, out of these, 494 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:20,000 out of luxury items, called a luxury tax. You know how my hotels, all this, everything went up. 495 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,560 You know who's responsible for this? Mr. President Obama. This was his doing. 496 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,800 Hold on a second. I'm sorry. Luxury tax is connected to cigarettes? 497 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,920 Yeah, absolutely. I didn't know that. Yeah. It's considered a luxury tax because 498 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,000 it's not something you need. It's not an essential. This is a total, like a lavish 499 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,440 purchase. That's what it is. So they have a special tax just on those. 500 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,800 What other taxes are out there that are- When you go to a hotel, you pay a luxury tax. 501 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,080 Sure. Okay. That's what, I'm not sure exactly how many things are on luxury tax. 502 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,800 Right. There are others. Yeah. Remember Monopoly? Remember in the game Monopoly? 503 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,920 Love Monopoly. Luxury tax. Remember that tax? Yeah. You ever saw that clip? You ever saw that clip 504 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,240 with a kid playing Monopoly with his mother? You ever saw that clip? 505 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:05,680 No. You must watch this clip. This defines America. This one clip gives you a picture of the 506 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,400 country we live in. You have a kid, he's like a 12 year old kid, and he's playing Monopoly. 507 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,160 And you see him sitting there at the board and his mother's recording, and his mother's videoing him, 508 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:19,440 and the kid, he's crying. The kid is crying. His mother's videoing him. She's like, and she's like, 509 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,680 she's like, Aiden, what's going on? Why are you crying? And he's like, he looks at it. 510 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:34,640 He's losing it. He's getting all his money away to taxes. Monopoly was the best game to get you 511 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,480 ready for life. It taught us so much Monopoly. It's funny how the game of life taught you nothing. 512 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,800 Yes. The game of life? With the game of Monopoly, you learned it all from Monopoly. You learned 513 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,120 about Park Avenue. You learned about real estate. The better the real estate, the more money you make. 514 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:53,600 I have a friend that only buys real estate on main avenues. That's it. Around the country. 515 00:42:53,600 --> 00:43:00,160 All his real estate is purchased on main streets, main avenues, ocean avenue, main main streets. 516 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:05,680 It's a strategy. Monopoly should have its game retired in the Hall of Fame. Like they should be 517 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,200 in the Hall of Fame. It should be a Hall of Fame for games, for board games. Today, kids don't play 518 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,080 board games anymore. Is it a thing? No, it is. Kids play board games? Catan is a huge game. What? 519 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,280 A little too complicated for me, so I don't play it. I didn't even hear that. Catan. I don't know 520 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:23,120 what that is. It's like Monopoly on steroids. Really? Yeah. It's a great game. You know the game 521 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,760 Risk? Sure. It's similar to Risk. I have to tell you, one of my favorite games. By the way, you 522 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:33,600 mentioned Risk. I got into an argument with a good friend of mine. We were playing a game of Risk. 523 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:40,560 We didn't talk for weeks after this game. Not a joke. I kid you not. We did not talk for weeks 524 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,720 because we both got so invested in the game and we got so into it as if we were the real world 525 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:50,080 leaders. Going to battle with each other was like real global domination at Risk. We got so into it. 526 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:57,680 I was so venomous to him. It was a sight to be seen if apples and oranges weren't flying 527 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:03,920 at each other. We started throwing things at some point, but it was the right way to play the game. 528 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,440 Wow. That's how you play the game. That's intense. I have to tell you, I love Battleship and that 529 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:14,080 game is intense and it's fun, but never did I not speak for it. Of the battle that we had. You're 530 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,320 not very competitive. I'm not as competitive. No, no, no. This is how the games are meant to be 531 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:23,920 played and this is what is at stake when it comes to winning and this is how you win. Wow. Yeah. 532 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:29,120 Yeah. You got to fight for your life. Like everything is on the line. That's the way to do it. 533 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:34,720 I'm a simpler guy. I like connect for it. Oh, you're so bored. I don't want, I'm not into 534 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:38,640 TikTok toe because there's always a strategy to win, you know, or tie. TikTok toe was one of those 535 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,480 unwinnable games. Yeah. I don't even know who invented it by the way. Like, you know, I mentioned 536 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,600 before, Monopoly should be in the hall of fame and should be retired. On the highest. Yeah. This 537 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,680 should be on the left. TikTok toe should be on the blacklist. Like we should never let people play 538 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,000 TikTok toe anymore. Well, what else? Whoever made that game was drunk. He was drinking too much. And 539 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,960 he had fog on a window and he just discovered it by making fun. That was a terrible game. Bad idea. 540 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:05,280 Very bad idea. It happens to be, look, you know, growing up and having board games was what connected 541 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:10,240 us to one another as opposed to, uh, you know, being on your, you know, phones all day, but there 542 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:15,840 are games that kids play today and lots of adults that connect people with others. It's kind of fun. 543 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,480 You could play, you could play games and you can, even though there are shooting games and you know, 544 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,720 your whole objective is to kill all the aliens on the planet, but you're connecting with others and 545 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:28,800 it's virtually. So I happen to like board games. I try to play a lot of board games. I try to play 546 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,440 a board game once a week with my, I think that adult should get together more often over a glass 547 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:39,520 of wine and play a board game. Pictionary. Sure. Pictionary. Sure. Raids. Yeah. Well, that's the 548 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,520 beauty of Chavez by the way, because we actually have that time. Correct. That's when I play. 549 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:49,040 Right. And play games. You know, you try to explain this concept of Chavez to someone who's not Jewish 550 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,520 or not religious, there's Jewish, but not religious. It's hard, man. It's hard to explain it to them. 551 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:58,720 You know that we have a lot of listeners on our podcast that are not Jewish, but they love 552 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:04,400 learning about our traditions because many of them who I've spoken to work with Jewish people. 553 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,520 Yes. And they want to learn more about the traditions and they're fascinated by it. 554 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,680 Fascinated. For good reason. I've heard back as well. I've heard back feedback from, uh, 555 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,480 non-Jews and they actually questioned me on like, what does this word mean? What does that mean? 556 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,160 What were you talking about? And I feel bad because they're left out of the conversation in 557 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,720 certain parts, you know, but when it comes to Chavez, it's its own little world of things that 558 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:28,880 you're, you're left out of. Like they don't understand what it means that you by demand 559 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:34,720 hook or by crook once a week, you're going to have that family time and you're going to connect. 560 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:38,720 Okay. And you might beat each other up and you might, you know, you might spend the time fighting, 561 00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:43,040 but it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter because week after week you are going to be in the same 562 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,240 room and you're going to eat together. You're going to break bread together. And I think that's a 563 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:49,520 beautiful thing. I just have to tell you a small thing that I do traditionally, and we'll end with 564 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:55,040 this. I have a good friend of mine. We share friends. His name is Shema. I won't say his last 565 00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:02,720 name. You already said too much. Shema. I love you. And Shema brought me to Rabbi Waxman, 566 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:08,400 a certain leader in the community who spoke prior to Yom Kippur. Okay. Really Holy day. And he was 567 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:14,000 talking to the crowd and he said something that I learned and took away from. And it really helped 568 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,360 my entire life. And I want to share that with you. He said, he looked at the audience and he said, 569 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,040 it's Yom Kippur is coming. He's an unbelievable speaker, but he's one of the best. I mean, he 570 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:28,080 captivates you when he speaks. Yeah. When Rabbi Waxman speaks, I mean, you can have thousands of 571 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,760 people listening and everybody's at the edge of their seats and he can go on for an hour for two, 572 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:38,480 for three. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. That guy has it down to an art of how to speak and how 573 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,680 to engage someone and how to pull you in. I mean, he's the best. So he's the master. So he was 574 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:49,520 speaking and he said as follows. He said, I want you guys to take on a new year's resolution, 575 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:55,040 right? You know, our Rosh Hashanah Yom Kippur new year's resolution, something to work on yourself 576 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,520 spiritually, emotionally. Okay. That was a nice idea. And he said, I want you to all in the audience 577 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:04,080 to think about something that you're going to take upon yourself. And I'm sitting there and I'm 578 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:10,560 thinking, you know what? Every day from now on, I'm going to do X, Y, and Z. And then he says, 579 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:16,240 and I want you to take that idea and cut that in half. And he was quiet. He paused thinking to 580 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:23,040 myself, okay, every other day. And then he said, I want you to take that idea and cut that in half 581 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:29,920 again and do that consistently for one year and see what happens. That's when I developed traditions 582 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:37,360 for Shabbos. And it was over a decade ago. And every year since then, I take upon myself something 583 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,320 traditionally to do extra during Shabbos. You know, that one of them is playing games with my kids. 584 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:48,160 One of them is lighting candles together with the family. And every single year I take on another 585 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:53,520 resolution because I took something, I cut that in half. I took that, I cut that in half and it 586 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,880 worked for me. And thank you, Shema. And thank you, Rabbi Waxman, because it really impacted me 587 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,080 tremendously. That's beautiful because you're not taking on too much small steps, baby steps. Take 588 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,960 one thing at a time. And before you know it, you built this beautiful, amazing picture, right? You 589 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:13,440 do it one paintbrush at a time. I have to say, Oshie, and I'm not afraid to say these words to 590 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:22,320 you. I love you. I love the way you have a skill of taking something and explaining it so eloquently. 591 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:28,560 I like the way your mind works. I like the way you take current events, historic events, and we 592 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:33,280 together are taking those moments and learning from it. And I love you for what you're doing. 593 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,000 And I love us for what we're doing for each other and for any of our listeners and our fans. 594 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:44,160 I don't know. I really hope that people are also kind of part of the conversation and are taking 595 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,560 something away from it for themselves too. I really hope so. I know that for me, yeah, as I'm 596 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,640 talking, you know, therapy, I always say therapy is great, not because somebody's listening to you, 597 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,520 because you're talking and you hear yourself speak, right? So I'm experiencing a lot of that 598 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:03,280 when we do these podcasts. And I agree with you. It's all about growth. It's all about being a 599 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,160 better person, a wiser person, a more experienced person than you were five minutes ago. Right? 600 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,880 Keep reinventing yourself every time. So I'm really loving the ride. I have to say in this 601 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,360 podcast, things went all over the place. We went in a lot of different directions, but a lot of 602 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:22,320 fun stuff, a lot of interesting, good conversations as well. And we could have spent more time on it, 603 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,240 but at the end of the day, I agree with you. I mean, this is about growth. It's about what you 604 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:30,560 always say. You always say, you know, personal growth, professional growth and in the world and 605 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,200 everything that happens, try to take a little piece here and a little piece there and eventually 606 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,120 collect it and you put it all together and you make a masterpiece. You hope I thought you were 607 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,960 going to say, I agree with you. I love me also. But I do want to say that, but I do Michael, 608 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,000 you know that that goes without saying. No, but you know, I'm actually a little offended that you 609 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,480 had to say it because you thought that maybe I wasn't sure you had to actually verbalize it. 610 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:58,720 Not a little offended by that. I'm professing and professing it to the world. I'm saying it out loud. 611 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:06,320 And I want to just say my takeaway from this journey that we had today is the fact that there 612 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,920 are so many positive things that you can take away from even the craziest incidents that happen in 613 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:17,040 the world from an attempted assassination. We can learn good from that. And that's what we did here 614 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:22,160 today. That's what I love about the none of your business podcast. Guys, please like, subscribe, 615 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,640 follow, give us feedback. Tell us what your favorite game was when you were a child. Tell us 616 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,280 what you learned from the Donald Trump potential assassination that could have happened and changed 617 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:57,520 the world. Would love to hear your feedback. We'll see you next time.