And then he gave that infamous fist pump that will be remembered forever in history.
And it was amazing to watch. I mean, we don't get into politics on the show,
raising his fist right after the guy was almost murdered.
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Just being with you and talking with you is amazing. And what we're about to do is
embark on a journey of talking about how current events affect us on our daily life.
Yeah, I think that it's important when you see an event taking place,
is to have your own little takeaway from it, right? A message should be received that you take away,
right? There's obviously the grand message. There's the broader message that the masses are,
you know, are talking about and they're perhaps even arguing about and they're seeing things
differently and debates ensue. But everybody should have their own little messaging for
themselves, their personal takeaway that they can incorporate them into their lives to either make
a change, either to try to make them happier or whatever it might be. But I think it's very
essential that everybody puts their own little twist on it and applies it to themselves.
And I have to tell you, since October 7th, I have not turned on the news. And before October 7th,
it was years before I turned on the news, but I had to, I just had to see what was going on in
the world this week. It was amazing. An attempt assassination on Donald Trump of all people.
And the day, you know, I just learned that it was that week that he was being nominated officially.
It was someone tried taking him out literally the week that he was being officially nominated. It
was the timing of it was crazy. And I turned on the news and I was stuck to it. I was, I was stuck
to it for a couple of hours, but all I kept doing is thinking, what can we learn from all of this?
And that's what I like about what we're going to do here. And that's what I like about what we're
doing in general. And then none of your business podcasts. Yeah, I agree. I think that first of
all, it's very hard not to turn the news on these days. I mean, everybody has a cell phone, right?
And everybody gets notifications and there's news everywhere you go, wherever you go, return. Also,
people are talking about it, right? You're conversing with people. So naturally you're
going to hear what's going on. So it's hard to be blind to it. But yeah, the news has been, you know,
not so, not so kind. It hasn't been, you know, a lot of pleasant things happening. And it's important,
you know, to try to keep up with what's going on. Don't get too sucked in, you know, don't get too
invested in everything that's happening. The world is an ending, you know, it's, it's, it's still a
wonderful place with lots of nice things going on as well and good people. But it's important that
you try to understand everything that's going on and apply it in a positive way, apply it in some
type of positive way that'll, that'll make it, that'll make it better for yourself. So I'm excited.
I'm excited to talk about it. Let's get going. Let's do it today. It's once again, you and I
getting deep into conversation about what's going on with us, what's going on in the world
and what we can learn from it. I feel like this is episode number 9,000, Michael. I feel like all we
do now is just talk about podcasting or we're actually doing the podcast. I feel like this is
like our whole life now. I like it every day. It's like, wait a second. Should we talk about this now
or should we save it for the podcast? It's like, you know, we need to remember that we also want
to live our lives. We want to just live in, you know, in the moment. You know what it is, what it
is. It is what it is. You know, it is what it is. It's probably the most overused phrase. I think
everybody says it throughout the course of their week. Everybody says at one point what it is.
What does that mean? Why are they saying that? Because they don't have what to say. They don't
have what to say next. So they're just like, it's a cop out. It is a cop out. That's a hundred percent
a cop. It is what it is. Just forget about it. Move on. Don't ask any more questions. Yeah.
You know, we all do it. We all do it. You know who doesn't say it is what it is? Mr. Donald Trump.
No, no, no, no. He is the essence of it is what it is. He is what it is. Yeah, that's what he is.
That's what he is. He's living on his own planet, by the way, this guy. There's a planet. There's
the planet Earth and there's planet Donald Trump. That's what there is. He's created a whole new
class of what it means to just really not care what anybody else thinks. He just does his own thing.
He projects so much confidence. And in the beginning, when people just got to know
Donald Trump, people who weren't watching him, like, you know, his show, The Apprentice, and
people weren't watching him. People watched from afar. But then everybody got to really, you know,
got exposed to Donald Trump. He came across a little bit at first, like it was it wasn't so
pleasant. You know, he was very cocky, very arrogant. You're fired. Yeah. Yeah. That was
that was his claim to fame in the beginning. That was a guy that fires everybody. Right. Right. And
he always looked very like talking about himself, always touting his own accomplishments and which
was clearly most of them were exaggerated, if not even made up, you know, and it was off putting.
It was very off putting. But there's a method to the madness. I mean, after a while, you realize,
wait a second, I think he's onto something. I think this guy's onto something. And I think
that we should all take something away from this and learn from it. We all should learn from this.
Sometime it's okay to exude unwarranted confidence. Sometimes it's not about whether or not it's
actually true. And if it isn't true, think it to be true, and it will become true eventually.
Manifesting, manifesting. Exactly. You manifest something, and then you never know becomes a
reality. You know, it's interesting, I watched the clip, and I'm sure most people did years ago,
when they asked him, Would you ever run for president? And he said, I would if I needed to.
He did this clips of him saying this years and years ago. I think Oprah Winfrey Oprah Winfrey,
they asked him, you know, would you ever consider running for president, he's becoming very popular
was a very wealthy man. And somebody in the audience asked an Oprah turned to him like to
see what he would say. And he said that if it came down to it, and I felt like it was necessary,
I would run because he was arrogant enough to actually think that he could run one day.
And you know what, by God, he actually did. He did. He actually manifested it. But he has this
level of confidence that I don't think anyone in the world possesses. So I mean, paralleled to
anything. Yeah, it makes me wonder actually, at times, like, is, is this calculated confidence?
Is he is he promoting something? When the assassination attempt happened on his life,
and hearing that one of the first things that he was worried about was, where's my shoe?
Do you remember that? Yes. Where's my shoe? Why did he care where his shoes was? Why was
that on his mind? The first thing I think he cared about where his shoe was, because he knew
he was going to be exited off the stage. And he possesses in his mind that confidence and knowing
that I need to look my A game 24 seven, I'm being watched. He knows it. He's like, where's my shoe?
I am not walking off the stage without my shoe. I have a bloody head, but I need my shoe. And then
he gave that infamous fist pump that will be remembered forever in history. And it was amazing
to watch. I mean, we don't get into politics on this show, but it'll be that image of the four
soldiers that are playing flag flag round, right? Yeah, yeah, it'll be that and then there'll be
Donald Trump raising his fist right after the guy was almost murdered. And that's what he was
thinking about, which most of us, if not all of us, like at that moment, I'd be like, get me out of
here. Get me out of here. I don't want to, I don't want to be here anymore. I don't want to see what's
coming next. I want to first, you know, I want to go to a safe place. Not this guy, because again,
he's so full of himself. He's so into himself that everything for him is a show at every moment. He
thinks the world is watching me and what do I want them to see? And it's madness. If you think about
it's really madness, but works and it works so well that I think there could only be one person
like this in the world. Do you think there's room for two people like this in the world? Maybe in
another country. I don't even know that. I didn't, I don't think the world can handle another person
like that. He fills the room. He fills the room. There's no space for anybody else. He does, but he
deserves to fill the room. And honestly, because he manifested that confidence and because he
understands that people are watching him, I think he's doing the right thing. I think what I want to
make a point about this is that I think everybody can take away a tiny piece of Donald Trump, whether
you like him, whether you don't like him, that doesn't matter. That's not the point here. That's
not the conversation I want to have. But what I think all of us, even from your worst enemies,
you could learn something from, right? Somebody who doesn't like him could still learn something
from him. It's very small minded of people. If all they do is just say, you know what, this, he's a
terrible person and everything about him is bad. There's nothing good you could find in everybody.
There's always something good. I think everybody can take away from Donald Trump is to always hold
yourself to a certain standard, no matter what anybody else tells you, whether you're worthy,
whether you're not worthy, you think you are, and everybody should have some of that. Everybody
should have a little bit of that confidence in themselves so they prop themselves up and you'll
be a better person for it. You'll be a better person. You're saying there's a certain level of
perhaps a God complex that may work for some people. Like if they manifest it in terms of
thinking, I am the best that I need to be or I mean, think about it. It's a matrix. I mean,
he's gone through indictments that's been thrown out. He's gone through so many challenges that
have been thrown out in terms of his ability to overcome without even trying even. He's just,
he's being himself. And because he's being himself, the opportunity just keep coming to him.
And that's what I think is the beautiful idea of manifesting this, what I'm calling a God complex,
but you're saying is that he has this confidence. He does. He has this major confidence and he's
been knocked down by pretty much everybody. You know, it's crazy though, even though he comes
across as cocky perhaps, and there's many things that people could say about him. I think for the
second time in my life, at least that I've seen Donald Trump and I've been following him because
he's entertaining, to be honest with you, I mean, way back from The Apprentice, I mean, it was a show
that went over a decade and I was entertained by him. It's like the same reason why people love
watching American Idol for Simon Cowell. You know, they want to see what he's going to say. What's
he going to do next? Same thing with The Apprentice. You look forward to the end to see who was going
to be fired and what was he going to say, right? It was just interesting to see. So, but for the
second time in my life, I saw a different Donald Trump. Just yesterday at the RNC when he was
nominated officially, I saw a more humbled, emotional Donald Trump that I saw at one time before a
couple of years ago when unfortunately his first wife, Ivana, passed away. And he was like, you
know, for the first time humbled and emotional. This was on the higher degree. He walked in and
he had that confidence, but you saw something different. You definitely saw that big bandage
that they put on his ear. They found the... It was almost comical. I'm surprised that they didn't get
Band-Aid or Johnson & Johnson to pay for an ad on that ear, but from that, I mean, it was moving.
Yeah. He's been much more presidential this time around. And I think that it's by design. I think
that he has really taken consultation and he's taken counsel from people close to him. You think
he's listening to others? Of course. I always felt like he doesn't listen. He has to listen. I mean,
nobody can do the kinds of things he's doing all by themselves. They have to have a team of people
that are working with you. And the issue with him was that he was always rogue, right? He was always
somebody who just did whatever he wanted at all costs, even through his own detriment. But this
time around, it just seems like he's been really keeping himself in a much more subtle way about
things. He's not just, you know, doing things in this flashy way that's like, you know, very extreme.
He's been much more, you know, collected and he's honing it all in. And he's definitely been much
more presidential, I think, this time around. Do you think the life circumstances of what happened
here is going to really affect the way he behaves? Absolutely. Perhaps he's not going to be as quick
to put the button as people portrayed him to be. Yeah. And also he's coming at the tail end of his
life. You know, he doesn't have a whole lot of time. Did you know that he was the oldest,
first oldest president to ever run and come president at 70 years old? He was the oldest
president. Right. When he became president. Yeah. And you're talking about stamina at the age of 70
and he's only older now. And I think this gives him the energy, you know, sort of like us, when
we walk into a room and the people give us the energy, this is like on the next level. Yeah. But
I don't know if this is so much about his energy. It's just more about his presence. It stands for
something. Right. When he walks into the room, comes along with the whole persona behind him.
And I think that is what captivates people. You know, one thing I could not help but notice,
and there's video clips of this all over the place. And there's example after example about this. And
to me, this is how I think of Donald Trump. I think of him as a leader. He walks into a room
with a lot of world leaders and people from, you know, we're talking about leaders from, you know,
the free world, right? From the UK and from France and from Italy, from all over Germany.
And he walks into the room and Vladimir Putin is in the room. And he's shaking each person's
hand one by one. And he grabs Putin's hands when he shakes them. And he takes his hand as he's
shaking and he pulls it towards him. That's a power move. Right. That's a power move.
I love watching it. Right. There's actually a scene with him and President Obama, when
they both have that power move. And it was so amazing to watch a person here, give me your hand
a second, pull him and then him back. But then one person put the hand on the other and then the
other and then the shoulder. And it was like, no one does it like him. No one does it quite like
him. He did it much. And in the beginning, people would say that that's off putting like, what's this
guy do? Who does he think he is? But now that I'm seeing the whole story play out and I'm seeing
that as this all unfolds, I'm like, wait a second, there's something here. This is not a joke. This
is not an act. This is really who he is. And at the end of the day, he's representing us. This is the
power that let's face it, the world needs a strong America. I don't care what anybody says. We are
the moral compass of the world. Any other country, we hope that we are, we should be. Well, when we're
not, if there comes a day, God forbid, very detrimental, we're in big trouble. The whole
world is in big, big trouble. Yeah. Right. So having the leader of the free world be a person
that leads by example and a person that leads by power and doesn't lead by weakness, he leads by
power. That's the kind of person that power, you know, what kind of power, the power of being the
first sitting president to ever visit Kim Jong-un. That's power. The first sitting president. I mean,
think about that. He's just, he has that energy and that positivity that he brings into a room.
And the way he shakes your hand physically is the way he shakes your, your emotions mentally.
You should know a lot of people, myself included in the beginning, kind of, you know, had raised
eyebrows about that when he went to meet with Kim Jong-un, because at the end of the day,
you're giving a little bit of validity to him, right? As a world leader, when, when the president
of America goes and visits with him, by the way, basically in his territory, right? I mean, right?
The outskirts of North Korea is where they met. It really does give him a little bit of credence
and it was questionable. Should he do that? And I myself was like, I don't know if I liked it.
I'm not so sure if I liked it. But again, now that I'm seeing as the story is unfolding, I'm learning
more and more about him. I'm realizing it was a power move. It was basically him coming and saying,
you better shape up. Like you can't do your tricks anymore. There's a whole, there's a new sheriff in
town. Things are different in this country, right? Now again, I don't want to get too political. I
don't want to, you know, prop him up too much and I don't want to put him down either. I'm a fan,
but at the same time, you know, I'm, I'm a little bit wary, you know, I'm not, I'm not born into
everything, right? There's a lot of good and there's some bad too and that's fine, but it's
entertaining. And it's a story, you know, he started with the show with the apprentice. I feel like
there's still a reality show playing and he just doubled down. And right now he's just doing it at
a bigger scale. He's not any more employing, you know, 10, 15 people who's going to get the job
working at Trump tower. He's now interviewing people who's going to run the world is basically
what he's, he's, he's just up the ante with his reality TV. It's on. Do you think that people
have influence on someone like him? Because it's unbelievable. The way I see it is the fact that
if you, if you're around someone that maintains such composure under pressure and brings in a
crazy amount of energy and power, who can suggest anything to him? Who can give him any ideas that
you'll ever listen to? We can all agree that one of the biggest problems when it comes to politicians
is them being in other people's pockets and them being influenced to make certain decisions based
on a few people that are lobbying, that are, that are paying for it, that are giving him favors or
whatever they're doing to curry his, his favor with president Trump. I think we can all agree
nobody is getting in a favor with it. He doesn't need anybody's favors, nor does he want it, nor
does he need it. And I think that's very assuring. I think maybe from a monetary standpoint, but I
think everyone can always use someone somewhere. And the truth is we're all guilty of that, but
money is the number one thing that really drives people. But that's dangerous. And with him though,
I don't think money gets, gets anybody anywhere. But it's dangerous. I think that as a world,
as a society, I think we do better when we need things from other people. I, I'm not so
in a favor, in favor of having someone that doesn't need anything from anybody. You're talking about
me and you, and that's fine. I agree with you. Yeah. But when we're talking about somebody in
the position that that's being the president or being in such an important position, you want to
make sure there's no biases there. You want to make sure that everything is just, I don't know,
then it's more like a dictator. I actually think that I want someone to have some sort of influence
on him. But do we trust his judgment though? That's the question. Do we trust his judgment?
Do we want to give over the full autonomy for him to make these decisions because he's proven
himself that he really genuinely cares about making the country great. And that's what he
wants to do. And nothing short of that. When you start a company, all right, let's take our company,
PrimeSource, for example, I'm just going to throw that in there is, you know, we started the business
without having to give anyone a service because we built the service out of a need in the industry.
Right? Think of the difference when you start a business with someone that gives you an infusion
of cash. So you have to listen to him, someone that gives you an infusion of business. So then
you have to listen to that person, right? Wondering what the difference is in general,
when you start business one way versus the other, easier way versus the not so easier way,
becoming a president and not needing anybody, becoming a president and actually needing someone.
I don't know. I think there's something to be to be learned from this. I think it's important. I'm
going back to what I said a minute ago. I think it in business, perhaps you can look at it and
just look at the differences between the two. It helps you when you have someone that influences
you. It helps you when you can use favors from others. Obviously, you don't want the foundation
to be built on it, because you have less favors that you have to do for others. I'm just a fan of
everyone needing something from everyone sometimes. I don't like the idea of someone being on such a
level that he doesn't need anything from anyone. I think Mike Bloomberg actually ran on that.
His campaign also was that he had all the money in the world and he didn't need anything from
anybody. And he also went on that platform. And it scared me then also and it scares me now as well.
I kind of like it. I actually think that when you have any other variables other than what the
purity of it is, it taints it. And automatically, you're starting to skew your decision making,
not based on what is best for the company, not based on what's best for the country,
based on some personal agendas, based on some other variables that's got nothing to do with
the task at hand. I think that's a dangerous thing. I think how do you not want someone who
you can trust more to make a decision because you know he doesn't need that and that's not why he
made that decision. It's not because he wanted to pocket another million dollars. The guy's got to
guys got a billion dollars in the bank. He wasn't swayed by somebody offering him a little bit of
money. I would trust that guy a lot faster than I would trust some other guy who came up with
investments through other people who are investing in him that when he gets to a position of power,
he'll be able to return the favors. Those are the scariest people. Those are the ones that I don't
want to have as my leaders because they're not interested in what's best for us. But nothing,
zero, zero, zero scares me. I think the less the better. Zero scares me. I heard someone once tell
me, I think it was actually my brother David, who I hope to have on the show here, who can break down
politics for us in a way that can be understood in our world and what we can learn from it. But he
told me once that influence in our community is better than power. Think about that for a second.
It's better to have influence than it is to have power because when you have power, everyone wants
to knock you or everyone wants to just step all over you. So I'm just using that understanding
and taking that to the next level of saying too much power skips me. I don't know. I'm going back
to what I said earlier. I think too much power scares me a little bit. You want to hear something
interesting about power? You ever heard of Amon Gorth? No. Okay. So he was a vicious SS officer
in Nazi Germany. And he ran, I forget which camp it was specifically, but he ran one of the camps
in Nazi Germany. And he was known to be just purely evil. They were all evil, but he was especially
evil. He took personal pride in the kill count of how many people he himself personally murdered.
It wasn't just about how many people got murdered around him, but how much he had a hand in it.
And he was a terrible, terrible person. And when he was in the, like in a, it was a story. He was
in the middle of, you know, just randomly shooting people and Oscar Schindler, who they made a movie
about beautifully made movie. One of the all time classics, Tish Above movie. Tish Above movie.
Some people watched them Tish Above. Yeah. And if you've seen it, you should see it again. Absolutely.
You should see it again. You learn something every time. It's an amazing, amazing movie. So
Oscar Schindler, like he knew he had to kind of, you know, you have to put a little bit of,
you can't put a stop to it, but he had to try to minimize it a little bit. So he told Amon
Gorth something so profound that Amon Gorth actually bought into it. And he said to him,
you know what power is? Power isn't the ability to kill whenever you please. That's not power.
Power is having the ability to kill whenever you please and choosing not to. That's power.
Wow. Is when you can do something, have the ability, no one's going to stop you. It's in
your hands and you control yourself and you decide not to. That is the ultimate power that
a person can strive for. Wow. You know, that resonates a lot with me because throughout my
journey of life, I'm always looking to explore and grow, which is one of the things we're trying to
do here on the None of Your Business podcast. And it just, this is something that I've learned
about myself over and over again, in terms of, you know, decisions to have self-control.
I think that, you know, it resonates with me because I've read about it and I've tried to
manifest it as much as I can in my life. Self-control actually makes us happier.
If you have self-control over something and you empower yourself to control that, whatever
madness it is, or, you know, addictive personality you may have, I think that's a recipe for happiness
in life. And I like to use that as my recipe in terms of self-control. Things that I, I have a
difficult time and I have to maybe control myself sometimes. I wonder what those are for you, Ashi.
Well, I'll tell you, it's very satisfying. There's no better feeling than holding yourself back from
somebody that you know is wrong and still not doing it, right? That's power, is that you're able to,
the willpower, that's a type of power, right? It's very gratifying. The reason why it's so gratifying
is because it's so hard. It's so difficult. As human beings, we're wired to do certain things,
right? Our DNA, we're designed to do things in a certain way. And if we don't do it that way,
we're going against our nature. Did this animal think it was wrong to kill Jews? I wonder.
Meaning, you're talking about the idea of control. When he was killing, and Oscar Schindler told him,
power is choosing not to kill. It's profound. Don't get me wrong, but I'm just wondering the mindset.
Did he actually think it was wrong to kill Jews? I mean, when he heard it, it kind of sat with him
and he processed it because ultimately this was, this was about power. Right. They wanted, they
felt like they were the superior race, right? And they were true nationalists at its core. I mean,
that's what a real, real nationalist is. Right. Nationalists can go both ways, but they used it
in the negative connotation, right? They actually believe that the Aryan race was the most superior
race in the world. And they recognized other races. It wasn't like they believed they should
be the only race, but they were the superior race and they were willing to play ball with other races
as well. Obviously, the Jewish race- As long as it's not Jewish. The Jewish race, it wasn't just
Jews. They hated a lot of different, a lot of different types of people, different races,
different creeds, different orientations, but they, they specifically, but they started, you know,
with the Jews and that was their end game. But it's not so much about the power that they're
striving for. It's everybody wants to come out on top. Everybody wants to be better than the next
person. That's what power is. Right. Power is that I can do things that you can't do. You know what
the biggest power is, is on yourself. If you have power over yourself, over your own body, over your
own mind. I mean, that's power that if you can attain that- That's the self-control that I was
referring to. If you can, if you want to die happy, like that's the way to do it. Do you think that,
that the idea of confidence through competitiveness comes from that desire of power? Like you're,
you're a pretty competitive person, if I may. I mean, you play baseball, you're on a league.
You were telling me earlier that you played last night. Oh, by the way, got to hear this. Yes.
Last night. Okay. We had an event. Okay. And there was a good amount of drinking going on at this
event, like all good events are. And I remembered that I had a baseball game that night and it's
fine. I'll figure it out. I'll still be able to play. And I kept drinking merrily along.
And then it came time and I had a few people drive me to the game. I couldn't even drive anymore.
So people, they drove me to the game and I get there. And it was a whole different experience.
And I really think I need to do this again. I have to test the waters. I have to see how far it could
take this. This is your league, your baseball league? Yeah. It's a baseball league that we have
in the community. What positions do you play? So I play a few different positions, depends, you know,
what's needed, but mostly I catch. When you're drunk, what do you play? No, I didn't play a
position in the field last night because I, cause you couldn't. I knew my limitations. I knew that
there's only so much. But you got up a bat. Yes, I did. So I got up to bat and it was wild. First of
all, I was very happy. I wasn't, it wasn't like the anxiety or like the competitiveness, that part
sort of peeled away. And I just wanted to play for the sport of it, for the fun. I think that's the
way it was meant to be. Wow. That was, I think that's what sports are supposed to be. What happens
to your competitive? We've corrupted it. And somehow because humans, we like to always win.
And sometimes we lose that enjoyment. We lose the enjoyment aspect of it, which is really what,
what the core of it is meant for. I think that I discovered the way to actually have the enjoyment
and the fun and still have some competitiveness because your mind isn't totally gone. You're
still getting a little wasted, a little waste, not to the point that you blacking out or you gotta
still hit a triple and you can't play, but I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you, I, I'm excited for the
next sport. I don't know. I'm, I'm curious. What else, how far can I take this? Maybe tennis. I love
tennis. I love playing tennis. Now tennis I'm a little bit weary about because there's a lot
of movement back and forth, back and forth. And you know, if you're inebriated, you're probably
going to stumble a lot. You're probably going to, it's not going to be that easy. If there was a
sport to play inebriated, I think baseball would be it. Definitely. Yeah. Because there's very little
movement required of you. Right. So you're, because it's a boring game. Yeah. Yeah. My last, my last,
at bat, I actually stroked a line drive single. I'm very proud of it while I was drunk. I may add.
And when I got the first base though, I got a runner to substitute to run or pinch runner to
run for me because I knew I'm not making it at the second base. No way. There's no way. Now for all
those listening, I don't want anybody to think that, you know, I'm an alcoholic who, who does
all my activities drunk. This was an anomaly. This was, this was my first time. It's a discovery.
It was my first time ever that I've done something like this, but I have to tell you,
I have to tell you, Michael, I kind of liked. Wow. As a disclaimer, the None of Your Business
podcast does not contone children to drink while playing baseball. We don't condone children
listening to this podcast. Thank you, Steph. I appreciate that. Yeah. You know, I will tell
you something that the fun of the game is really where it's at. I mean, you know, we're, we're
going to an event tonight. Uh, Prime source proudly hosts the Zimmit opening party every year. It's
the Zimmit conference. Very excited about it. Mr. Mark Zimmit is a leader, a thought leader
in the industry of reimbursement for the senior care world. How long has it been? How many years
is he doing this? I mean, he's doing it for a long time. I remember going there like 10 years
ago already. Yeah. We started, we started the opening party almost seven years ago and it is
a party. Big part. And, uh, you know, I'm thinking now, you know, every time when I'm at the party,
I'm, I'm on my egg. You know, I don't eat when I go to trade shows. How could you,
a guy like you, I mean, you're busy out there just like meeting as many people as you can and just
networking and you're not taking care of yourself. You're just trying to meet people. And yeah,
this is where you do shine. I have to tell you, this is where you really do excel is when it comes
to common. Not everybody can do it, Michael. Right. Not everybody can do it because people
are very reserved. People are, it's out of their comfort zone. Not everybody likes meeting new
people. Can you imagine having to meet a plethora amount of new people? Just one person after the
next, after the next, it's just nonstop. There's over a 700 people plan on being here at the party
that we're throwing tonight. And look, there's bowling, there's arcades, we have a karaoke room
and the idea of networking is just meeting people. But of course there's drinking that goes on,
you know, it happens, you know, and why is it that why do we always have to have drinking
at an event where we want to have a good time? Do you know of any event that we do,
any type of party that does not involve alcohol, I'll tell you that we enjoy the event all the same.
I'll tell you this event. Well, actually this event, I believe you don't have to drink alcohol
to have a good time. The beauty of having an arcade there and a bowling and just enjoying each
other's company is the fact that it's high energy nonsense. I feed off other people's energy. That's
last for me, Michael, you're talking now, you're making up what you just said, please delete,
wipe out. It's totally false, completely false. There hasn't been, I don't think since the Coliseum
days, when there were probably also had like bars on the side somewhere and they were selling drinks
over there. Alcohol is infused in our lives everywhere we turn. They advertise it on TV all
day. I mean, you go to a ball game, there's alcohol. You go to synagogue some point, there's
alcohol. I mean, we've incorporated it into our lives. I mean, it's just you can't look away.
Wherever you look, there's alcohol. Why is that? When did this happen? Why could we only be
fun and happy when there's alcohol involved? What does that say about it? It's a great question.
And I agree that it's a topic to be discussed. And I hope, you know, that we have to ask
whereby Spivak where this comes from. You know what, you know, when he comes on the show,
you ask him, you know, like, why can't we go to a dinner and not have alcohol? You ever went to a
dinner lately and didn't have a glass of wine? Again, I haven't. I go to dinner. I get a glass
of wine. Get all the people that get invited to weddings and show up and there's no bar. Right.
The people get all angry. I'm leaving the wedding. How dare they? They got me to come to this wedding
and they didn't provide drinks. We get, we get so angry. They call it a dry wedding, right? That's
that's the term. I like that. I never heard it's a dry wedding, a dry wedding and on the word,
it's a dry wedding. It's a dry event. Yeah. I have to tell you though, um, I'm not a big fan of
drinking in general. I love having a glass of wine that compliments the situation that we're in,
like the none of your business podcast or on, you know, Friday night when having a meal or going out
for dinner or even having an event and maybe perhaps getting at bat a little inebriated.
I'm a, I like the concept, but there's a lot to talk about. Um, you know, we, we will be having
a guest on our show, Rabbi Spivak, and that is my pick for the person that I want. You know how,
like we always ask our guests, like, you know, our guest co-host, who do you think we should have on
the, on the next podcast? I think it should be Rabbi Spivak. I'm a big fan and I'm a big fan.
And I know Rabbi Spivak for a while already, but I never actually really got to know him. And I've
seen him a lot of times. I had known for over 15 years. I mean, I know him back when I was a counselor
in camp and he was a learning Rebbe there. And I got to know him then. And how would you ask the
question? How would I pose the question? What is it about us that we're lacking that we need to replace
with alcohol to make us feel like we're in a good place and like we're happy? What, what is it that
we can do that we're missing that is genuine, is real? Because obviously alcohol is not real.
Obviously it's just forcing us into a place where maybe we don't have to think as much, right? Our
minds become a little convoluted and we feel good. Like we forget about our problems a little bit,
wherever it might be. There's obviously a void that we're filling with the alcohols. No doubt about
it. So the question is, where else can I fill that void? Now, a good Rabbi will tell you, you know,
you fill it with spiritual things, right? Those are the things that are gonna, that are gonna make
you the happiest. That's a great answer. And I can appreciate that. Like the next person,
I want to hear something more. We're not getting him on the show to ask him for him to tell us
spiritual. That's the thing. I don't think Rabbi Spivak will. I think that he has a lot more that
he could bring to the table to relate everyday things to everyday people. I think the question
that you're asking is a general question in life is why is it that it's such a necessity?
Um, you know, I will tell you though, letting loose is a good thing. I mean, you know,
from my perspective, Michael, we're letting loose everywhere. We don't miss an opportunity. That's
the thing that it's any, by the way, I want you to know this. This is a very important thing. I'm
about to tell you, no matter what it is, anything that it's too much of is not a good thing. Sure.
Okay. Even if it's, if it's, if it's money, right, if it's family time, which all sounds like an
amazing thing, too much of it, it starts bringing you down. Well, thank God I'm a Libra and I live
about balancing my life. And I want to say that I understand the challenge of, of alcohol or other
things that have to really, you know, loosen you up in terms of just, you know, being not in that
pressured world that you're in, right? People want to just, I guess that's the answer from my
perspective is that people are very pressured. You know, money pressure is a big deal. Everybody,
everybody's pressured. I think that everyone in this, we all have problems. I think that everybody's
in a bad dark place. No, no, that's already doing it too much. Now you're already taking it to the
next level, right? But I think it's very common spread. I think it's very widespread where a lot
of almost everybody we know is turned into alcohol very frequently, very, very often. You know,
somebody asked me once, you know, uh, in general, what was the best piece of advice you ever got?
And I said to him, the best piece of advice that, that someone wanted to give me is the best piece
of advice that I translated it into something else. Someone said to me, you want to be wealthy,
hang around wealthy people. And my answer to him was, and I think I told you this earlier,
is that I wanted to be happy. So I hang around happy people. And the truth is if you want to
smoke and you hang around smokers, you're going to see, there's a lot of smokers out there. If you
want to drink and you're going to hang around drinkers, you see a lot of drinkers out there.
You don't have to really be in that world. If you go to a wedding and there's a bar,
you could choose to be that person that's sitting at that bar, the entire wedding,
or just grab a glass of wine. It reminded me of a very famous joke. There's a elderly gentleman.
He's in his late eighties and he goes to see the doctor. You know, this joke, I'm excited to hear
a joke. Okay. He goes to see his dad. I don't know for a wellness checkup. He's an old man.
He's got to make sure he's keeping himself in line. He doesn't have a whole lot of time left.
He has very little room for error. So he goes to the doctor. He says,
he says, dad, check me out, please. He checks him out. And he said, I got some questions. He said,
so do you drink? He says, do you smoke? He says, no, I don't smoke. Of course not. He says,
do you sleep late? No, no, no. Every morning. And he goes through the list. And after the doctor,
why do you want to still live? Like what's going on? What are you looking forward to?
Like what you don't even live really life. You don't do much anyway. Like you go tomorrow. What's
the point? What's the difference? Do you understand what I'm saying? That's very sad. But I understand.
But it's a morbid thing. But at the end of the day, let's face it, all the good things in life,
all the good things in life will harm. Go back to self-control. It's even better to have that
self-control. That's the ultimate happiness. That's really what I truly believe in. I mean,
so I got to spend my entire life learning to have self-control. Yes. And then I get to a certain
point that I have self-control and I'm just doing all the right things and everything that we're
supposed to do as people and now what? Yeah. Your entire journey is to learn how to have more
self-control. I'm not saying complete self-control. Do you think Donald Trump drinks? No, it's very
well known that he doesn't drink. Right. This has been very well documented that he doesn't. You know
who else doesn't drink alcohol? Who's been, who accomplished something? No other person in the
world has accomplished. Okay. Mariano Rivera is a closer on the Yankees. He was a closer on the
Yankee. Very illustrious career. What was special about him? 19 years he pitched for the New York
Yankees. He has the most career saves from any pitcher by far. No one's even close. Maybe a
couple of guys have four or 500, but after that, no one has even close. 652 saves this guy had.
And you know what he said? He never drank an ounce of alcohol. Donald Trump never drank an
ounce of alcohol. So this goes further to my point. Apparently we're all missing that in our own
greatness because we're all busy drinking all day. Can you imagine if the world just stopped
drinking? Would everybody be Albert Einstein suddenly? Absolutely. Can you imagine if the whole
world was Donald Trump? No, that's too much. We already agree. There's no room for two Donald
Trumps. There can only be one. There can only be one. But think about it. Think about it. Are we
wasting away our talents? Are we not reaching the heights that we possibly could be because we're
drinking our lives away? And I'm making it sound very dramatic and look very excessive, but I'm
not that far off. I mean, let's face it. Drinking has become a real part of our life. A real
challenge. Yeah. A real problem. You go to a barbecue. You go to a barbecue. You bought the beer.
You bought the beer. Right? Like think of any other place where we go. I think one of the reasons why
I have to say, one of the reasons why is, you know, smoking was banned in restaurants. Remember when
you used to smoke in the back of planes? Yeah. Mayor Bloomberg to thank for most of that. So he
took it to the next level. He basically banned soda from bars. Michael, do you remember going to
La Mare in the city and smoking on the second floor? Sure. Sure. I remember. And being there for hours.
Yeah. Cigars. People would smoke cigars up there. Part of the entertainment. But you know what
happened? You know what happened? Remember when he could smoke in casinos? Remember those days?
Think about it though. Go back a decade in your mind and think about how many people in your
community smoked then and how many people smoke now. Much less. Exactly. So it works. The idea of
banning smoking indoors works. I think the challenge of alcohol specifically is that there are no
limitations other than the age that you're able to buy it at. Besides that, it's a huge challenge.
And again, this is for another segment. It's available everywhere. It's another segment. You know
that I bought a pack of cigarettes and I've been very good. I'm buying like maybe, I don't know,
maybe a pack every couple of months. And then I probably smoke like four or five of them. And then
I throw out the rest, you know, or sit still in my car. I bought a pack before the event. And the
event was coming up. So I bought a pack in the gas station next to me. Do you know how much I paid
for a pack of cigarettes? I was shocked. I got to the register and I paid for it. How much is it?
I'm excited to hear. I did a double take. I was like, excuse me? How much is it? Guess how much
it was? In New York, a pack of cigarettes. Not in the city. Not in Manhattan. In a suburb.
How much was a pack of cigarettes? I really wouldn't know. I mean, it used to be four or five
bucks. No, I'm not talking about what it used to be. Okay. People remember when it was water.
I know the taxes are insane on it. I know the taxes are crazy. Take a guess. $14 a pack. Go.
$18. $17.50. $17.50. I paid $17.50. Now I lost that pack of cigarettes and I bought another pack.
Now that's a true story. I really lost it. Okay. By the way, I have it now because where I lost it,
I left it by somebody's house and that person returned it to me this morning. So now I have
two packs. I bought a second pack. Okay. I bought a second pack here in Jersey, next to our office,
$12.50. $12.50. And in New York, which is like 10 miles from here, $17.50.
Yeah. So New York is really behind the idea of quitting smoking.
You know who's responsible for this? You know who taxed the, you know what, out of these,
out of luxury items, called a luxury tax. You know how my hotels, all this, everything went up.
You know who's responsible for this? Mr. President Obama. This was his doing.
Hold on a second. I'm sorry. Luxury tax is connected to cigarettes?
Yeah, absolutely. I didn't know that. Yeah. It's considered a luxury tax because
it's not something you need. It's not an essential. This is a total, like a lavish
purchase. That's what it is. So they have a special tax just on those.
What other taxes are out there that are- When you go to a hotel, you pay a luxury tax.
Sure. Okay. That's what, I'm not sure exactly how many things are on luxury tax.
Right. There are others. Yeah. Remember Monopoly? Remember in the game Monopoly?
Love Monopoly. Luxury tax. Remember that tax? Yeah. You ever saw that clip? You ever saw that clip
with a kid playing Monopoly with his mother? You ever saw that clip?
No. You must watch this clip. This defines America. This one clip gives you a picture of the
country we live in. You have a kid, he's like a 12 year old kid, and he's playing Monopoly.
And you see him sitting there at the board and his mother's recording, and his mother's videoing him,
and the kid, he's crying. The kid is crying. His mother's videoing him. She's like, and she's like,
she's like, Aiden, what's going on? Why are you crying? And he's like, he looks at it.
He's losing it. He's getting all his money away to taxes. Monopoly was the best game to get you
ready for life. It taught us so much Monopoly. It's funny how the game of life taught you nothing.
Yes. The game of life? With the game of Monopoly, you learned it all from Monopoly. You learned
about Park Avenue. You learned about real estate. The better the real estate, the more money you make.
I have a friend that only buys real estate on main avenues. That's it. Around the country.
All his real estate is purchased on main streets, main avenues, ocean avenue, main main streets.
It's a strategy. Monopoly should have its game retired in the Hall of Fame. Like they should be
in the Hall of Fame. It should be a Hall of Fame for games, for board games. Today, kids don't play
board games anymore. Is it a thing? No, it is. Kids play board games? Catan is a huge game. What?
A little too complicated for me, so I don't play it. I didn't even hear that. Catan. I don't know
what that is. It's like Monopoly on steroids. Really? Yeah. It's a great game. You know the game
Risk? Sure. It's similar to Risk. I have to tell you, one of my favorite games. By the way, you
mentioned Risk. I got into an argument with a good friend of mine. We were playing a game of Risk.
We didn't talk for weeks after this game. Not a joke. I kid you not. We did not talk for weeks
because we both got so invested in the game and we got so into it as if we were the real world
leaders. Going to battle with each other was like real global domination at Risk. We got so into it.
I was so venomous to him. It was a sight to be seen if apples and oranges weren't flying
at each other. We started throwing things at some point, but it was the right way to play the game.
Wow. That's how you play the game. That's intense. I have to tell you, I love Battleship and that
game is intense and it's fun, but never did I not speak for it. Of the battle that we had. You're
not very competitive. I'm not as competitive. No, no, no. This is how the games are meant to be
played and this is what is at stake when it comes to winning and this is how you win. Wow. Yeah.
Yeah. You got to fight for your life. Like everything is on the line. That's the way to do it.
I'm a simpler guy. I like connect for it. Oh, you're so bored. I don't want, I'm not into
TikTok toe because there's always a strategy to win, you know, or tie. TikTok toe was one of those
unwinnable games. Yeah. I don't even know who invented it by the way. Like, you know, I mentioned
before, Monopoly should be in the hall of fame and should be retired. On the highest. Yeah. This
should be on the left. TikTok toe should be on the blacklist. Like we should never let people play
TikTok toe anymore. Well, what else? Whoever made that game was drunk. He was drinking too much. And
he had fog on a window and he just discovered it by making fun. That was a terrible game. Bad idea.
Very bad idea. It happens to be, look, you know, growing up and having board games was what connected
us to one another as opposed to, uh, you know, being on your, you know, phones all day, but there
are games that kids play today and lots of adults that connect people with others. It's kind of fun.
You could play, you could play games and you can, even though there are shooting games and you know,
your whole objective is to kill all the aliens on the planet, but you're connecting with others and
it's virtually. So I happen to like board games. I try to play a lot of board games. I try to play
a board game once a week with my, I think that adult should get together more often over a glass
of wine and play a board game. Pictionary. Sure. Pictionary. Sure. Raids. Yeah. Well, that's the
beauty of Chavez by the way, because we actually have that time. Correct. That's when I play.
Right. And play games. You know, you try to explain this concept of Chavez to someone who's not Jewish
or not religious, there's Jewish, but not religious. It's hard, man. It's hard to explain it to them.
You know that we have a lot of listeners on our podcast that are not Jewish, but they love
learning about our traditions because many of them who I've spoken to work with Jewish people.
Yes. And they want to learn more about the traditions and they're fascinated by it.
Fascinated. For good reason. I've heard back as well. I've heard back feedback from, uh,
non-Jews and they actually questioned me on like, what does this word mean? What does that mean?
What were you talking about? And I feel bad because they're left out of the conversation in
certain parts, you know, but when it comes to Chavez, it's its own little world of things that
you're, you're left out of. Like they don't understand what it means that you by demand
hook or by crook once a week, you're going to have that family time and you're going to connect.
Okay. And you might beat each other up and you might, you know, you might spend the time fighting,
but it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter because week after week you are going to be in the same
room and you're going to eat together. You're going to break bread together. And I think that's a
beautiful thing. I just have to tell you a small thing that I do traditionally, and we'll end with
this. I have a good friend of mine. We share friends. His name is Shema. I won't say his last
name. You already said too much. Shema. I love you. And Shema brought me to Rabbi Waxman,
a certain leader in the community who spoke prior to Yom Kippur. Okay. Really Holy day. And he was
talking to the crowd and he said something that I learned and took away from. And it really helped
my entire life. And I want to share that with you. He said, he looked at the audience and he said,
it's Yom Kippur is coming. He's an unbelievable speaker, but he's one of the best. I mean, he
captivates you when he speaks. Yeah. When Rabbi Waxman speaks, I mean, you can have thousands of
people listening and everybody's at the edge of their seats and he can go on for an hour for two,
for three. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. That guy has it down to an art of how to speak and how
to engage someone and how to pull you in. I mean, he's the best. So he's the master. So he was
speaking and he said as follows. He said, I want you guys to take on a new year's resolution,
right? You know, our Rosh Hashanah Yom Kippur new year's resolution, something to work on yourself
spiritually, emotionally. Okay. That was a nice idea. And he said, I want you to all in the audience
to think about something that you're going to take upon yourself. And I'm sitting there and I'm
thinking, you know what? Every day from now on, I'm going to do X, Y, and Z. And then he says,
and I want you to take that idea and cut that in half. And he was quiet. He paused thinking to
myself, okay, every other day. And then he said, I want you to take that idea and cut that in half
again and do that consistently for one year and see what happens. That's when I developed traditions
for Shabbos. And it was over a decade ago. And every year since then, I take upon myself something
traditionally to do extra during Shabbos. You know, that one of them is playing games with my kids.
One of them is lighting candles together with the family. And every single year I take on another
resolution because I took something, I cut that in half. I took that, I cut that in half and it
worked for me. And thank you, Shema. And thank you, Rabbi Waxman, because it really impacted me
tremendously. That's beautiful because you're not taking on too much small steps, baby steps. Take
one thing at a time. And before you know it, you built this beautiful, amazing picture, right? You
do it one paintbrush at a time. I have to say, Oshie, and I'm not afraid to say these words to
you. I love you. I love the way you have a skill of taking something and explaining it so eloquently.
I like the way your mind works. I like the way you take current events, historic events, and we
together are taking those moments and learning from it. And I love you for what you're doing.
And I love us for what we're doing for each other and for any of our listeners and our fans.
I don't know. I really hope that people are also kind of part of the conversation and are taking
something away from it for themselves too. I really hope so. I know that for me, yeah, as I'm
talking, you know, therapy, I always say therapy is great, not because somebody's listening to you,
because you're talking and you hear yourself speak, right? So I'm experiencing a lot of that
when we do these podcasts. And I agree with you. It's all about growth. It's all about being a
better person, a wiser person, a more experienced person than you were five minutes ago. Right?
Keep reinventing yourself every time. So I'm really loving the ride. I have to say in this
podcast, things went all over the place. We went in a lot of different directions, but a lot of
fun stuff, a lot of interesting, good conversations as well. And we could have spent more time on it,
but at the end of the day, I agree with you. I mean, this is about growth. It's about what you
always say. You always say, you know, personal growth, professional growth and in the world and
everything that happens, try to take a little piece here and a little piece there and eventually
collect it and you put it all together and you make a masterpiece. You hope I thought you were
going to say, I agree with you. I love me also. But I do want to say that, but I do Michael,
you know that that goes without saying. No, but you know, I'm actually a little offended that you
had to say it because you thought that maybe I wasn't sure you had to actually verbalize it.
Not a little offended by that. I'm professing and professing it to the world. I'm saying it out loud.
And I want to just say my takeaway from this journey that we had today is the fact that there
are so many positive things that you can take away from even the craziest incidents that happen in
the world from an attempted assassination. We can learn good from that. And that's what we did here
today. That's what I love about the none of your business podcast. Guys, please like, subscribe,
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