People should make an impact to every single customer.
You could do a good job servicing.
Of course, of course.
Fine.
They could go beyond.
People should go beyond.
In my opinion.
Oh, she, I hear what you're saying.
You have such a story?
I have a hundred of these stories.
Are you kidding me?
I look out for all these opportunities.
I'm going to do business with.
And after you were doing business with him, he still did something very nice for you.
What was a nice deal you did for us?
Showed up to a Leviah.
What do you mean?
Buried his mother.
How did that happen?
Did a trip to Israel as a favor?
Oh, that was a favor that's building relationships.
I know I'm never going to lose this client.
I was with him in Israel.
Never going to happen.
I was with him at the Kotel.
We watched each other cry.
So you have a bomb now and that's it.
That's sealed forever.
None of your business, Oshie.
None of your business, Michael.
It's the none of your business podcast.
Hosted by Michael and Oshie.
I am so excited for our second episode, the none of your business podcast.
I can't believe we're here.
We're at our second episode.
Thank you, God, for bringing us to this moment in our lives, in our way of growth.
And this time we have a co host guest.
Yes, we do.
We have a good co host, somebody actually who's a very positive, pleasant, fun individual.
And I think everybody's going to enjoy listening to him.
Those are not even his best qualities.
That's what a great guy is.
Okay, okay, I hear that.
I'm true.
I will tell you, one of the things I love about Heshi, our co host, is after our first
podcast that we did, naturally we started getting a lot of feedback from people, people
that listened, friends, family, some not friends, random people that's gone.
Come over to you.
Haters, yes, a lot of critics, a lot of haters.
And you realize that there are people that their mission and life is to tear other people
down.
I guess that's how they lift themselves up.
I guess that's their way of making themselves feel better is trying to highlight other people's
failures and to point out how other people aren't so great and makes them feel better
about themselves.
I think that's a very miserable way to live your life.
But unfortunately, the reality is there are a lot of people like that out there.
But on the flip side, there are also a lot of good people who actually are encouraging.
They really want others to do well.
They enjoy seeing other people succeed.
And I got to see the pool of different types of people, different characters, different
personalities.
And it was very eye-opening for me.
I'll tell you, Hashmi is one of those guys that was right from the get go before we even
did a podcast.
We just came up with the idea.
He was totally on board right away.
And he said, yeah, you guys are going to do great.
I think you should do it.
100%.
He was behind us from the get go.
And it's just Hashmi in a nutshell.
That's who he is.
He's always trying to find positive in things.
He's always smiling.
He's always laughing.
He's always trying to have a good time.
And these are the type of people you want to be around.
These are the type of people you want to hear from.
And I actually think that he's going to be a fantastic host.
And speaking of pool of people, just triggered by memory, he has this amazing pool house
where we recorded this podcast.
And the one thing that you're saying about giving, and I'm saying you haven't even touched
the surface of his beautiful personality, is that his pool house was built not only
for his family and Mark, but for his friends and his neighbors.
And that's what's so special about us doing this episode.
I'm excited.
Let's get into it.
By the way, we were involved in the building process of his pool house.
That's true.
He wanted it.
He's like, guys, you're all going to be hanging out.
Exactly.
And that's how he made us feel.
Yeah, we're all shareholders without the expense.
Which is wonderful.
I have a room.
Do you?
Yeah, I didn't get a room.
You only have a towel.
Okay, I'll take a towel.
Just a towel in a bathing suit is what I have.
But I'll take a...
Listen, that's Hashmi.
That's him in a nutshell.
He's a fantastic guy.
And if only other people could be more like that.
If people can just find the pleasantness in life and find the good things in people, I
think it would be a better place to live.
We're all going to be much happier.
Everybody would get along.
There wouldn't be any wars.
Everybody would just be a kumbaya moment.
You know what I mean?
It just happens.
I agree with you 100%.
The fact that he's successful and he's been in healthcare his entire life, multiple daycare
centers, nursing facilities, tremendous operate, tremendous person.
His feminist brother built a tremendous operation in the state of New Jersey.
It was well known in the industry.
It's that he took all that and he's doing good with it.
And that's what I love about this episode.
And that's where I love Hashmi, where this podcast is heading.
Yeah, I agree.
I think the main matter, we're still trying to figure out exactly what our main messaging
is going to be and what the theme is.
But I think what we've already established is we want to figure out ways how to be happier,
how to enjoy life more, how to make lemonade out of lemons.
And stay positive.
Take the hands of your delts and try to make the most of it.
And there are a lot of people that have mastered that art, there are a lot of people that naturally
that's just how they are.
They always see the positive in things.
And I think if we can bring those messages out in anything in life, what you do and do
it a little bit differently so you can do it better and you can just have a happier life
and go about your day smiling more, I think the mission accomplished.
I think that's ultimately what everybody's yearning for.
Agreed.
And speaking of happy and positive, that's what I loved about this podcast.
So let's get right into it.
Yeah, let's talk to Hashmi.
Hashmi, what's going on?
We have with us actually a co-host.
We're not calling it really a guest because it can never call Hashmi a guest.
That's true.
Like part of the family.
Honestly, thank you.
It happens to be in my house, so I can't be a guest.
Very good point.
We're justifying why he's not a guest in his own house.
Very, very good point.
That's what we're doing here today.
Super excited to go into our second podcast, Lashi.
Our second one.
Wow.
With lighting.
I think my first one really went well.
If my first one went great, it was a lot of fun.
I enjoyed it while it happened.
While it was happening, I was really enjoying it.
First of all, we don't get to nail each other down for an hour or two at a time in general.
So the fact that we both had to make the time, we both had to sit down or let's talk, even
though it was planned, it was still enjoyable.
I think you and I would make sweet music together.
I almost wish we could do this every day, but it's hard to do it in front of cameras
and lights and mics.
It happens more naturally.
It changes it a little bit when you have cameras in front of you.
But that's the thing.
You have to try to block it out and just be yourself and just be normal.
Talk about the things you would normally talk about.
I have to say, I really like your mic cover.
Not everyone who hears this only will see it, but it's as put together as you always
are.
Oh, that's really sweet.
That's very eye praise.
It is because you always look put together and you always look like you have your SHI
TEEP together.
Let me ask you, Hash, what's going on exciting in your life right now?
What are some of your really excited about?
So first of all, I'm very excited about Michael's wedding.
I really am.
Thank you.
First of all, because it's not here.
It's in Israel, which is always...
Do you have an excuse to not go to Israel?
Yeah, and also, when you make a wedding, when people make a wedding at a town, it becomes
much more exclusive.
Right.
It's just so Israel, because it's not like you're making a wedding in the atrium and
you know, okay, it'll be 100 a beat, 250 people that I know, gonna walk around, hi, how are
you, how's everything?
Mazel to Mazel to Mazel to Mazel.
So great to be of a kind.
Literally the five to 10 people that go are the wedding.
And it's really exciting by me.
Almost like the Bummitzva.
Do you remember the Bummitzva?
Which Bummitzva?
Well, I made people pay for their hotel room.
Your Bummitzva?
Yeah, Michael...
I heard about this, is that true?
Michael said, come to our Bummitzva just one condition, you have to get your own room.
You have to pay for your own room.
Yeah, and he was nice enough to pay for the food.
You know, it's very interesting.
I don't know if I...
It's a very simple concept.
Either I make the Bummitzva in Shul and 200 people get paid to eat Chalent and Herring,
who I almost don't care about.
Which is very normal, which is well sure, it's normal, but I'd rather be with friends
at a Bummitzva celebrating my son's milestone, not mine, which comes at an expense.
Which is also a little bit of mine, of course.
You want something more intimate and something more luxurious, like what you just said, comes
at a cost.
No, actually, it doesn't come at a cost, because I went to my friends and I told them, my budget
is X amount of dollars, and this is what it's costing me to do it in Shul.
So I'm paying for 200 plus people that unfortunately have to be there, nothing against them, by
the way.
I love every single one of them.
But when I'm spending money for my son's Simcha, what will make the most impact?
And what will you enjoy the most?
And my friend said, we'll pay for the hotel stay.
So it was actually their idea, but it worked well.
Oh, did we really offer that?
No.
I think it was like a condition.
It was, you didn't have a choice.
No, no, I'm being honest with you.
I think he's sad with us first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
If I do the hotel, I can't afford for everyone's room.
Do you still want it?
Right.
We all sit there.
That's actually exactly what happened.
And I'm proud to say that Heshi is one of those 90%ers, which means what he says is
usually accurate to the 90th percentile.
But he's done memory things that he based on things that he knows, like, you know, you
have to Google him.
He's 90%.
Oh, she you're pretty, oh, she you're pretty up there.
Also, you're also 90.
That's a very high 90% is a very high number.
But you know why that is?
Because Heshi hardly spews out facts.
He's not that guy that you're always going to hear.
Oh, let me tell you something I know.
You know those people, they're just constantly saying facts.
You don't have to fact check him because he's hardly saying facts.
He understands from his experience things that you can Google.
Right?
That's.
Yeah, but I think you don't look comfortable with compliments.
I'll stop.
No, I don't want the compliment, but I think I'm better on facts that are not like hard
facts like Heshi could tell you a fact.
Right.
Like Heshi could tell you a hard, hard.
You're right, by the way.
He'll tell you that Beala Reba is a grandson of XYZ, something that he knows.
Right.
And I'm good with thoughts, I think, but not super, super factual.
She knows like crazy, crazy facts like how many baseball games?
Hold on a second.
Just yesterday I asked you how many baseball games there were.
Right.
Just yesterday.
I was much closer than you.
Just yesterday we were here together with you.
But Heshi knew exactly.
And I asked him how many baseball games there are.
He said 150, something like that's crazy.
It's probably under 100.
And you walked out and you said 160.
And he said 160.
Oh, he said 160.
Heshi knew it exactly.
That's the difference.
In all fearness, I think anybody who follows sports, who follows baseball probably knows
that as well.
So I'm not going to sit here and bread it or something like that.
Stephen.
I had been under that.
You know 162 games?
Yep.
All right.
Show us how it looks.
Heshi, you don't just follow sports.
You know sports very well.
Yeah.
Especially the sports that you're into.
Right.
For example, basketball, baseball, you know it extremely well.
Much more than that.
I follow side teams.
I follow the link.
I know what's going on around the league.
But you know different games.
No, it's a little too...
Heshi, it's a little much, meaning in a positive way.
Not everybody knows who's leading in tennis, golf, baseball, basketball, football.
You know it all.
I've tested you.
I've watched games with you.
When it comes to these five sports I just mentioned, most people don't know.
You realize how many facts you know.
Each sport that most people don't know.
Which I really would love to take all these comments, but I should say this is a little
bit of a reflection on the two of you.
I really get it.
Well, I get facts.
Because we follow less.
The fact that you're so in awe about it.
And I do happen to know more than a casual fan does.
And as far as knowledge in general about sporting things, I certainly know a little bit.
But you guys know very, very little.
You're very removed.
We are from a sport.
Well, I am.
You guys care about it whatsoever.
Which is very interesting.
Like, is it an age thing?
Did you ever at any point actually care about it?
So it's interesting.
When I first got married, I lived in Chicago for the first year.
And the guy who I worked for had bulls tickets.
And he was an Israeli guy who had zero interest in basketball.
No interest whatsoever.
So I became a huge Michael Jordan fan.
And I still feel told today that the game is just not the same.
I mean, maybe because I got older, I feel it's a stupid game actually.
Now there's two of a lot of threes.
It became...
I don't know, he doesn't like basketball.
He likes hockey.
I don't like...
I think hockey is just much more of a talent sport.
There's always action.
I actually was sitting yesterday.
Who were we sitting with?
And we were trying to figure out what can basketball do to make it more of an exciting
sport?
They just did, by the way.
Changed some of the...
They made a new tournament that got the whole sport in league.
Exactly.
That is actually a very exciting thing for betterers.
Some ideas.
Oh, she might appreciate it.
There's some of the ideas I had.
Oh, you had ideas?
I wasn't here.
I want to hear them.
I was sitting with one of my sons, I forgot maybe.
I think it was Sammy and I said, here are some ideas that they can do.
First of all, in the last minute, of the last couple minutes of the game, this business
of foul, put the guy in the line, foul, put the guy in the line, it slows down the game.
They don't do that in the last two minutes.
If it's...
They don't...
About if it's under 24 seconds, like one possession left, then they start fouling if they're down
by a couple of shots, but they don't foul in the first two minutes.
No, they're at the end of the game.
Even at the end of the game, in the last two minutes, they're still trying to get a stop.
They're trying to avoid the other...
We don't even get the ball back, you're fouling.
You get it back after 24 seconds.
You can't hold the ball from more than...
So why are they always fouling at the end and putting it...
You're an idea.
When's the last time you watched a basketball game actually?
No, actually, I agree with Heshey that there are definitely times within the final two
minutes of the game, you will see a lot of fouls.
If it's a close game machine, if it's a close game, yeah, of course.
Absolutely.
To try and get that...
I'm very disappointed in you.
I don't know what you're talking about.
You're talking about Hackershack, which is like a certain strategy that was implemented
on a certain player and a certain team.
I'd say if I'd written with a game...
If anything, this happens to me.
But yes, of course, Hackershack does exist and it does happen.
Stephen, if your team is down by 10 points with two minutes left, you're going to start
fouling.
10 points.
We're not talking about 10 points.
We're saying it's...
If you're down by two points, you're down by six points, but eight points, you're not
fouling.
If you're down by three or four points, you want to put a guy in the line who you know
has a terrible, terrible...
Very rarely do they incorporate such a strategy.
That is the strategy.
Very rarely.
I don't agree with you.
You see it all the time.
People...
All the time.
This guy is...
No, I think...
By the way, I have to say, Uschi is probably the winner on this argument because he's 90%
in sports.
And the fact what he's saying is, by the way, it doesn't happen all the time.
You're noticing it because the time that you enjoy watching basketball is the time that
you turn it on.
It's like a parent walking in at the wrong, inappropriate time of a television show.
You don't watch basketball.
Okay, scratch it.
We'll go with Uschi.
I'll tell you a different idea.
Okay, go.
What was your idea, by the way?
You didn't even say it.
My idea was that if you purposely foul at the end, the person has to get two shots,
they get three shots.
Oh, okay.
The game continues to go.
But here's a different problem I had to get.
I never thought about that.
First of all...
He's thinking of ideas.
He's thinking maybe give the guy three foul shots.
Yeah, as a penalty.
As a penalty.
Yeah, yeah, because he did it on purpose.
But purposely fouling the guy.
Okay.
No, no, this is not for the flagrant foul.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
And that...
And another great idea...
I mean, free throws.
Another idea that I had, and this is difficult, but I think with today's technology, maybe
they can figure it out.
The game has become...
Guy goes up, he gets fouled, and he's at the line.
He gets up, he gets fouled, he's at the line.
A lot of times, the guy who's going up...
I'm just saying what I'm saying, the guy who's going up is only going up for the foul.
He doesn't have a chance at hell to make the shot.
He initiates the contact.
He wasn't in a position really ever to make the shot.
He was falling back sideways, and he goes up to get the foul.
That shouldn't be a foul.
So a part of the strategy.
They should change that.
To draw a foul.
A foul should have to affect the shot.
If it didn't affect the shot, it's not a foul.
Asher, I think you should buy another nurse at home.
I think we should leave the sports to...
To Oshii.
Not me.
I have a question.
The people...
These sporting franchises, these leagues, they're generating billions and billions
of dollars.
I imagine they know what you're doing.
They're doing something right.
And no three free throws, Heshi.
That's not happening.
By the way, to your point, when you go to a restaurant and you offer advice to the chef,
like, this was a little too salt, they're not listening to you.
They're a five-star restaurant.
They went through this.
They tested it.
They don't want to hear what you have to say about their steak.
Could I tell you something crazy that just happened to me actually today?
Please.
Crazy.
Yeah, I couldn't believe this.
I was furious when this happened.
We're not going to believe it?
I was furious.
I'm absolutely believe it.
I'll believe it.
Okay, let me tell you.
I'm surprised it took you this long to tell us.
So my son...
Something like, where were you?
Where were you?
We started this 25 minutes ago.
The worst thing you told.
For some reason, we're talking about sports now.
Oh, it triggered.
It triggered me.
Good.
By the way, that's a good sign.
Yeah, yeah.
So my son is in a league, a football league.
Not a kids' or under the league.
Five, six, seven hundred kids in this league.
Very successful league.
And in his first year that he's on the football team.
And first time I have my son playing football.
And I knew that they probably are going to put me down to be the coach because the guy
knows me and he knows I typically like to do these types of things.
So I wrote on the application, please do not make me a coach.
I wrote it on the application because they play on Fridays, middle of the day, two o'clock.
And I can't just stay golf on Fridays.
So I don't have the time, so I'm not able to do it.
The first week, sure enough, I see that he put me as the coach.
And I say, you know what?
I'm ready to coach.
Let me try it.
Let me go.
So I took off 130 and left the office.
I went to the game and I realized at that moment, wait a second.
So I'm going to be the coach now with my son.
I can't just throw the ball to him every time.
I have to be fair.
I have to distribute the ball evenly.
You know, I'm trying to do the right thing, you know, to all the kids.
So I'm really putting thought into this.
I'm putting effort into this and these kids are asking me a hundred questions of something
these kids don't know how to play and I'm trying to teach them.
I'm sorry, how old?
Yeah, six, seven year olds.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I've been doing a lot of energy and effort.
This is the first time these kids are playing.
Yeah.
Good.
Yeah.
So, so, okay.
I ended with the second week as well.
And the third week, I get it, which is this week, I get a message from the commissioner
of the league.
By the way, Oshie, I just want you to know that a couple of parents reached out to me
that they think you're taking the game a little too seriously, putting a little too much pressure
on the kids and just they're asking if you could, if you could, you know, back off a
little bit.
And I'm thinking the next way is the second way to say it.
These parents already have an opinion about whether or not, you know, what I'm doing,
if it's, if it's good, if it's bad, hold on a second.
Nobody called me to say thank you.
Nobody called me to actually appreciate that I'm taking off time for work to come to this
game.
I don't see any other parents stepping up to do it.
So I don't want to hear complaints.
I was very frustrated when I, when I saw this, so I actually texted him back and I said,
look, I'm out.
I'm done.
I'm not interested.
I don't need to coach.
It's already a big hassle for me.
It's very, very hard to do it.
But to have these type of complaints that have no other parents, not interested, not
happening, pass.
That's what happened to me today.
What do you think?
Whoa.
I have a lot to say.
Actually, respectfully, go first.
I had a similar story.
So it's actually, it's like hitting home, but my story is actually a funny story.
So when I was, first of all, I think you're 100% right.
I agree with you.
But I had a story that when my kid was like seven years old, I tried to get him into a
baseball league here in town and I was late to register and the guy who ran the league
said to me, the only way we'll take your son is if you were the coach because we're missing
your coach for your son's age.
And I said to him, I think you're making a big mistake by making me a coach, but I'll
do it.
I accepted it.
And one of the, I'm not gonna say any names, but one of the rules that the league had is
that if the coach, if the coach doesn't show up, you can't start the game.
And now that if the coach is there five minutes past the start time, it's a forfeit.
And it was like crazy rules.
It was like perfect baseball with crazy rules.
And I showed up the first week and you know, late.
No, I was on time.
I was on time.
The guy that showed up was a very, very serious guy and he showed up like five and a half
minutes late.
And he says, okay, we're ready to go.
I go, no, game's over.
What do you tell them?
You called forfeit and I called forfeit and the guy went nuts.
He says, are you crazy?
I'm a half a minute late.
These kids are gonna, they were like seven year old kids.
Some of them started crying.
I imagine the guy took me as serious as he can go and he called the commission.
He says, can you please call the, by the way, I don't know the rest of the story.
And he let it ride.
I played it.
I knew it.
10 minutes.
I knew it.
The game's over.
It means what?
Kids are crying.
I'm sorry.
And then the commissioner called me and he says, you know, the guy showed up half a minute
late and the rule is there.
So you get the game going.
I told you, you don't want me as a coach.
And then I just burst out laughing and couldn't control myself.
But people take this very, very...
And the finishing...
Yeah.
Now we played.
It was a disaster because I pretty much sat in that nothing let the kids do it if they
want to.
We lost every game.
I want to be clear for the record.
But my point is to you that people take these games, parents, very, very seriously, very
serious.
More serious than the kids.
I want to be clear, Heshi.
I actually was very, very easy going with the kids.
I was not in any which way.
But the parents felt you were threatening.
I'm not sure.
I don't know how they felt that way.
I'm not sure what.
Maybe one of the kids, I didn't throw it to enough and he was upset.
So he went, they didn't say that.
They didn't say that.
I don't know how it happened.
They didn't say you didn't pass the bowl enough, which is what you thought they might say.
Right.
I'm being aggressive.
That's odd.
Which I wasn't.
And it's funny because the last team that I played, I'm not going to say a name, but
he was the opposing coach and I thought he was being too aggressive with his team.
You said something to him.
I did.
I said something to him.
I walked over to him to say something actually.
And then they're complaining about me that I was too difficult on the kids.
I'm like, you know what?
I'm out.
I don't need this pressure, this headache.
I'm not doing it anymore.
I think we should recommend from now on that they have social workers at these events
to calm down, pay or get out of here.
I have to say though, I don't agree with your decision.
I'm hoping for the kids' sake that you're going to come back because you are a great
coach.
Okay.
So it happens to be to the end of the story and coming back.
I'm still doing it.
All right.
Okay.
Because he texted me, this guy, kept the going after.
He didn't just accept my, I'm not doing it anymore.
And he said, you know, I really think your son probably really appreciates that you're
the coach.
He got you.
Are you really going to like, you know, stop now?
And that really didn't get you knew exactly what to say.
What is the coach?
My son does love it.
He does love it.
Yeah.
What do you have to do as a coach?
Like I'm saying, I just got to throw the first six draws, throw the ball.
You are the quarterback.
I'm the quarterback.
When they get older, the kids are the quarterback.
You actually doing a lot.
They start to ask you, he's saying he does nothing.
But remember, we're the one that don't know a lot.
He's doing a lot.
As far as we would be concerned, he's making plays, telling them where to go.
He's throwing it properly.
We would just throw it the other side.
We're running around.
No, push, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, what do you mean?
You're not making a play with the kids?
No, handle or throw.
That's what I make them.
No, but here's what you have a hand to go to because they're young because they're
young.
Yeah.
But it too, by the way, I'm just curious.
No question about it.
You know that somebody kids are better than the other kids.
Yeah.
So you figure that out quick as the adult of the quarterback.
So you can't favor kids that are better, which is probably the job of the quarterback
not to as an adult troops.
It's right.
It's not so easy.
Somebody told me that, you know what, at the end of the day, you're the coach.
You're the one taking it at the time.
Throw to your son, throw a little bit more to him than you would throw normally to somebody
else.
There's nothing wrong with that.
The other parents do it too.
Let's be honest.
Everybody's doing it through an extent.
They're biased towards their son.
I actually, one of the teams I played against, the father of that boy, was throwing it all
day.
He didn't throw it to anybody else.
That was a little much.
And people were complaining, I'm sure.
No one's there to complain.
No one's there.
It's one father that's there as the coach.
What do you mean?
Parents don't come to watch?
They're in the middle of the day?
It's not two o'clock on a Friday.
It's not the same because on the Friday games, they're at three o'clock.
You know, whatever it is on Sunday, it's everyone's off.
Right.
Sunday at a parent's dinner.
I just have to say, oh, she, mother's, father's at.
Everything is going to change in a few years from now.
Yeah, I'm throwing.
I'm handing it off.
You wait until each hit is 12, 13, 14.
The conversation is going to be very different.
What it takes to coach your kid and how involved you're being and should you throw to him.
What if he's the best kid on the team?
What are you going to do then?
No, it doesn't matter.
He's young, right?
Well, you want to throw it through the war.
Of course.
The older he gets.
Yeah, but then it's more difficult.
Oh, parents are going to complain to your kid.
Listen, by the way, this guy makes a lot.
You're never going to make everyone happy with this type of job.
You know, I make everybody.
This guy makes a lot of money on this league and I'm very proud of it and I'm happy for
him.
He deserves it.
Yeah.
He put a great system together for the entire community.
He monopolized the industry for a good reason because he came up with the concept.
Right.
And he's doing a great job and we're happy about it.
I think it's a full-time job.
I am.
No, he has another job.
He does a job, but it takes a yeah.
This is his side hustle that does very well and I'm very happy that we have someone who's
so committed that does it.
He does such a good job for the kids.
Think of it.
Yeah.
Excellent for the kids.
Excellent.
The kids love it.
They love it.
My kid comes home on Sunday.
The first thing that let's go to baseball.
Let's go.
That's like an hour before the game.
He already wants to go.
They love it.
It's just funny that people talk to me all the time about side hustles because unfortunately,
the reality is many of us are in middle class and it's hard to fit with your budget and
your lifestyle.
This is a side hustle.
This actually works.
It's like doing a car cleaning.
I'm reminding us we're getting back.
We're at the none of your business podcast.
I'm told that we have to plug in and you know, from time and time, time and time again, I
have to say this is sponsored by Prime source.
This is our company.
Ultimately, people ask me, Hey, what are you doing this for?
And my answer is I'm doing it for growth.
And the reason why I like saying growth is because this is helping me and the people
around me grow personally and professionally.
And I'm very excited to launch this none of your business podcast.
And yes, it'll help Prime source.
And yes, Prime source will help the podcast.
And yes, we'll help each other.
And has she having you here with us today is a prize.
You know, 24 minutes ago, we asked, you asked me how was my day because I asked you to ask
me and 24 minutes later, I'm telling you, I had such a good day and it's ending in the
Zen house of one of my closest friends, has she climbed in who's a good friend.
And he's, he was a friend for over a decade before we even hinted at doing business together.
True.
That's a very big test.
We are careful to our friends together.
And you know, we, we've never invested in anything together unless it was for our pleasure.
Right.
We, we've, we've done things.
We've done trips together.
We always, we have each other's back.
We have a couple of other friends that are part of.
The thing our friendship is so tight at this point that we probably, even if we do business,
which we do, because I am a big fan of prime source.
That I think we're just tight enough at this point that it probably wouldn't affect it.
All right.
I hate to break up this Kumbaya moment.
It's called a love fest.
But go ahead.
What about this concept in general, giving business to friends?
Very sticking.
It's very, very, very, very.
First, I've been birthed a bunch of times by you hit a gram.
I have to just say, I'm sorry.
You see, you hit a hot top.
Because it happens all the time.
Fire red hot top.
It happens all the time for other people.
So I've been birthed by not, not necessarily friends, but by hiring people, let's say in
the community that you have to run into or you bump into.
And for whatever reason it didn't work out.
Even if you thought that you let them go in a peaceful way or they told you that, hey,
I'm moving on, but then there's always that feeling that, you know, I worked for you or
didn't work out.
I think it's even fair for someone to expect his friend to use his services or to buy his
goods.
A close friend, it has a very close friend of his.
It's fear that he expects.
I have to help support him or, or, or, no.
Actually before you ask that, sorry.
It's a great question, but let's not forget what has she just said and let's get back
to it later, please.
She's actually just said something totally different than what you're saying.
He just said that in general it's an issue hiring people that are in your community.
Here we have Stefan working for us at Prime Source, by the way, and I'm proud that he's
here.
I want to get back to what you said earlier.
I don't want to forget about it, but go ahead.
Being a vendor and a service provider and friends and expectations, I can't stand it,
by the way.
I can't stand it, but I'm just curious what has she.
I just want to say one thing, which I think very important because Michael, without tooting
his horn, um, takes tremendous pleasure and he does an unbelievable job at helping people
in the field of Parnasa.
You're getting the job.
Part of helping people in the field of Parnasa is networking.
He networks from people he knows to people he knows, and that is a lot of times in your
neighborhood.
He doesn't only do it in his neighborhood, but he specializes, I think, in your neighborhood.
Is that correct?
I specialize in Rockland County.
Well, you know.
It's 50 others.
Rockland County.
Yeah.
Thank God.
What he does is, is amazing.
It's not just him.
It's part of a big group that they're all doing this.
Yeah.
The Rockland Jobs Network.
The biggest help you could ever do for a person, hands down, is put them on their own
two feet.
There's nothing to talk about yet.
Any big success stories, Michael, from that, from that chat, like big outcomes, like somebody
hired someone and he ended up picking the company public.
I mean, I'll be very honest with you.
He can write a book.
I was about to say today.
I was like, every day.
Yeah.
I've seen some people that he helped out, that got jobs.
I mean, I'm not embarrassed to say it.
My daughter has a job today because of Michael.
A great job.
She works for someone with Michael New, put it together, says, hey, I think it's a good
shit.
By the way, to your point, Heshi, I have to interrupt this compliment because to your
point.
No, it's a true compliment.
I appreciate it.
I'm going to give you a compliment.
I love you and I appreciate it.
No, no, no, no, not in that podcast.
I just want to say that this goes along with what you just said a minute ago.
The concept of networking people and getting them jobs is literally that's Seattle to the
Shmaya completely.
The talent behind it is talking to someone, understanding what their needs are and helping
them through that process.
When you give someone a job, even if they're in your community, the backlash of the after
effect potential that may happen because you have to let them go or because they left
is worth it.
But it's big time.
It's big time, but it's worth it.
Worth it.
Everybody learned from it.
You honestly know.
Yeah.
But you don't care because you're doing this because you're.
Yeah, you're doing it for the right reason.
Sure.
You honestly know that it can come back to bite you and the person gave a job so and
so and so and so the guy could end up screwing up.
Yeah, but I had I had a food.
Now the guys have said a Michael for recommending I had a foot.
You're the schmaw so it doesn't bother you.
Yeah, but I'm forget about me.
I had a food service director that was a good fit for someone who owned a nursing home,
right?
And he didn't want to hire anyone from the neighborhood and I thought it was a mistake
personally because the end of the day, even if it comes back to bite you, the chances that
there might be success there is worth the risk.
The way is it?
Yeah, because the person needs Parnosa is the same reason why you're allowed to talk
about this on Chavez, meaning it's like you could talk about work on Chavez when it comes
to getting someone Parnosa, right?
So this is Pascua and Barabe, Josef Viner.
Really?
Yes.
You can help.
You can talk about business as long as it's helping someone get Parnosa.
Helping another you get a job.
You mean get a job.
No, a job, of course, not grow your business.
Make money.
Not grow your business.
Right.
Not grow your business.
No, no, no.
Sit the same.
No, I'm sorry.
No.
No, that's my point.
I don't agree with you.
It's hard.
It's difficult.
That's the challenges of it.
So what?
It's still worth the risk.
Everybody at the end of the day understands it and please continue to give people jobs
from the community.
Even if that two, three times doesn't work out?
Exactly.
Keep trying.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I wish you were saying something else.
I wish you were saying something that's much more exciting because he was saying as
a guy that I was in your school and he sells office supplies and he's coming to you and
he's saying I want you to buy from your office supplies.
Why not buying office supplies from me?
And he looks at you during kiddish while he's pouring you your scotch and he's saying how
come you're not buying from your office supplies?
So I've told you, right?
Oh, she right?
That's right.
And it's uncomfortable for everybody.
Right.
I would say so.
I have two things to say to Oshid, which happened.
This happens to me all the time.
So the first thing I say to the guy is you realize that just because we're friends, if you don't
match the price, you don't match the service, there's nothing to talk about.
But even after that, let's say he says, yeah, I'm going to match the price.
The first thing I say to him is, by the way, you know that another firm person has the
business currently.
Do you want to take it over from the guy?
And you know a lot of people say no.
A lot of people say, you know what?
If a firm person has it already, it's his paranasa, he's in the account.
Let him have it.
Okay, good.
That's very commendable.
That's good.
I like that actually.
I don't know how many people do that, but yeah, it's very commendable.
It happens to me all the time.
So you deal with it head on.
So you actually...
The first thing I tell the guy, by the way, price and service comes first.
So if you think that because we're a friend, you're going to charge me an extra 20%, it's
not going to happen because business is business.
Then I say to the guy, by the way, you know a firm person has it.
Do you want to compete with that firm person?
Some people say yes.
You tell me you don't give any business to anyone just because of a relationship that
has nothing to do with being Jewish or nothing to do with someone else competing with pricing.
There has to be.
Doctors, the relationships.
So first of all, it would have to be a really close relationship.
I mean, it would have to be like my best friend would call me up and say, listen, I have this.
I'm asking if you have someone now.
Do you have any vendors or service providers you work with?
It's good business now because they're good people regardless of who they are, where they're
from.
There's plenty of people that give business to their good people, but you're asking me
something else.
You're saying...
No, the service may not be great.
The service may be subpart.
Oh.
Yeah, that's what I'm asking.
If they're good people, I have a harder time getting rid of them.
But it happens to you.
Yeah, because I have a relationship.
For example, if I'm doing business for someone for 20 years and even if he's not doing a
great job, I have a hard time getting rid of them because there's a 20 year relationship.
Oh, absolutely.
Right.
I'm saying in your business, you guys can't afford that because you're not the end user,
so you can't afford to keep someone who's not doing a perfect job because your reputation.
You're going to say, you're fine.
You're first of all because you're servicing a lot of people and you can't have it go out
and say, hey, so-and-so didn't do a good job, but he was good friends with Uschi or Uschi
knew him, so we kept him.
You can't afford it.
It's reflection on us, so we have to be very careful.
I'm going to ask you a question.
Are there people that service you in general?
You have a lot of people that service you.
I hate to say it that way, but that's just the fact, right?
You have 50 vendors that are providing a service to you and you have relationships with all
of them.
Have any of them won your heart by doing something nice?
That's a good question.
Upfront, that means like the before they were a vendor.
That's why you gave them the business.
That's elevating the question.
I'm fine with that.
You've changed the question.
He's saying once they're in.
Yeah, I'm saying once they're in.
Or that.
Yeah.
That's fine.
There's been one or two, but not.
What was it?
Like a nice Michelin woman or something.
No, no, no.
I didn't take it that way.
Nothing to do nice to me.
Just I knew that they were very, very good people.
That's the way I understood the question.
Do you have a vendor who is, he's just a special?
No, they did something special for you.
Oh, special for you.
They did something.
Think back.
Not are you getting service by a Lamid Vovta?
No, we're asking.
Did they do something extravagant for you that made an impression?
Right.
And you're like, wow, this was.
You know what?
I can't leave this guy ever.
Never leaving this guy.
Oh my God, he showed up by my grandfather's Levi on a Tuesday in the winter storm.
I'm never leaving him.
Does that happen to you?
No.
It never happened to you?
No.
Then your reps are doing a terrible job.
That's what I'm saying.
Not necessarily.
My opinion, people should make an impact to every single customer they have.
You should be doing a good job servicing.
Oh, of course.
Of course.
People should go beyond.
In my opinion.
Oh, she, I hear what you're saying.
You have such a story.
I have a hundred of these stories.
Are you kidding me?
I look out for all these opportunities.
Something to do business with.
And after you were doing business with him, he still did something very nice for you.
What do you mean?
I do that.
That's how I get committed relationships.
I'm telling you a fact.
I'm I'm afraid you want me to give you facts and what other people do.
What would you do?
What was a nice deal you did for?
Showed up to a Levi.
What do you mean?
A buried his mother.
How did that happen?
Did a trip to Israel as a favor?
That's building relationships.
I know I'm never going to lose this client.
I was with him in Israel.
It's never going to happen.
I was with him at the Cotah.
We watched each other cry.
So you have a bomb now and that's it.
It's sealed and it's forever.
I don't have to be a little bit of plastic.
Michael, I'm going to tell you something which is true and with your personality.
Yeah.
When you meet people, you're always looking to get to get to the person.
I am.
I'm not cheating.
I have nothing to do with business.
Even if that person, when a person becomes friendly to you, you go above and beyond.
I think of the people.
The person is very extreme.
He's an extremist.
He does.
In this area.
I'm surprised to hear that no one's done it for you.
To be honest, in 20 years over 50 vendors with a turnaround, no one's ever done an impactful
thing to you.
I've been doing what I have.
You just don't remember now.
I can't remember.
But they've done it, right?
I'm sure it has.
Good.
There you go.
That's all I'm saying.
But I have many vendors that have been with me for 25 years.
Right.
On that note, I actually have a bottle of wine sitting in my car right now.
I was supposed to deliver to one of our clients.
Let's open it.
It's been in my car for months now.
Let's not open it.
I still haven't taken it.
No, no, no.
Let's not open it.
You know what's funny?
The guy doesn't live that far from me either.
He actually lives around the corner.
Somehow I keep a Chris today.
I'm like, I'm going to do it next time.
I'll do it next time.
Let's move it around my car as I make turn.
Hear it.
It rolls all over my car.
It's rolling around.
I'm never going to deliver it.
That's it.
I don't know what's going on.
This afternoon, I went into my backpack that was sitting in my car for three days and I
found a tangerine on the bottom.
It looked so beautiful and it was cool to the touch.
I started opening it and I was imagining myself eating this delicious tangerine because
I knew it was a Costco tangerine.
It was a really good one.
I put it there myself three days ago.
Then I bit into it.
It was sour and disgusting.
That bottle of wine, Oshie, it's disgusting.
It's been sitting in your car for months.
It's been in the sun and the cold.
It's gone.
Throw it out.
It's not a cheap bottle.
Just throw it out.
Do the guy a favor.
Throw it out.
Oshie, I want to transfer from the old car to the new car.
No, no, no.
It's not that old.
Oh, you're saying, oh, because there are things that have been transferred that are
so old that it's sitting in your car from the time you transferred.
I wonder what those are.
By the way, it's not true for us.
Every time I get a new car, I clean up the car.
I take everything.
I put it in a box.
You mean last week, Tuesday?
You mean the week before that?
I have in my garage a box from 97, 99.
Every two or three years, the new lease car, I empty the car and I think I need the stuff.
I put it in a box.
Are you labeling?
No.
The baseball has is that there's a bunch of boxes in my garage to eventually like Rifty
just throws them out.
I don't know.
Hold on a second.
Did you just say that every time you go to another car, I emptied the empty it completely.
The easy path that's expired, the cell phone that's broken, the lighter that doesn't work,
the sunglasses that's, you know, and you put it in a box.
When I leave it there, I leave in the garage.
So what would you say is the oldest box you have in your garage right now?
Probably from like five cars ago.
Get out of here.
Yeah.
Well, that's what, two weeks ago.
Why don't you just keep the things you need and chuck the things you don't know?
It's a weird thing that I think.
It's if in my car, I must need.
Can I, by the, can I ask Rifty to go?
She's not here.
I would say let's go to the box.
I want to see what was in the box.
Nothing.
It's stupidity.
It's a baseball hat from all price or all price or stuff.
It's stupidity.
Are you secretly order?
No, I'm not.
You have, you have like stashes.
It's only a car.
It's a car thing.
No, I have no stashes whatsoever.
It's a car thing.
Something about when you get a new car, you empty car.
When you get a new car, you transfer your stuff from one car to the other car.
You do?
Sure, of course.
I mean, I at least empty out the car and then I throw everything else out.
Has she used that opportunity?
You throw everything else out that toothbrush that somehow made it over there.
You throw it out.
Not a toothbrush.
What is it?
This is like lighter.
It's a cap.
It's sunglasses.
So you don't throw it out.
She has a point.
You're a hoarder.
Maybe.
Yeah.
What are the strange things that she might be a hoarder?
By the way, you ever watched that show?
My wife watches that show.
I've seen hoarders.
You ever watched that show?
I've seen.
I don't watch it.
I've seen.
Do you know what the real hoarders keep?
And the way they're, you know, they don't have where to sleep in their house because
their house becomes literally a junkyard.
So they don't even have a chair to sit on.
They literally are sitting on a million newspapers.
They become so congested that how?
No.
Because they use every square inch to keep something else.
They have nothing.
Renovation.
Around their house.
It's unbelievable.
It's a real disease.
It's a real sickness.
It's a terrible disease.
You know, when someone showed me a clip from that show around three years ago, you know
what the first thing that came to my head was?
Anxiety.
Because that's what some people's heads look like.
That's what my head sometimes looked like years ago.
Anxiety.
So many newspapers and books.
I'm just saying that's what I saw.
I'm just throwing it out there.
I'm just telling you what happened to me.
I saw the thing and I'm like, you know what?
That can depict anxiety because it's hard for people to tell what goes on in the inside
of a brain.
You look at somebody, he looks good, he has his hands, his legs, his feet, his toes, right?
And he looks okay.
And you don't realize that anxiety is like a condition that he has inside that he carries
tons of...
He's carrying the newspapers and he's carrying the books and he doesn't have a way to sit
and he doesn't know what he's going to sleep.
To me, that was anxiety.
Anxiety is a real problem.
It's a real serious problem.
People that suffer from anxiety really, really have a full day.
Throughout the day, it's a big problem.
There's no question about it.
When I fly, I get anxiety.
I know I sit next to it.
I can't imagine somebody who has that all day, that flying feeling that I have.
And they walk around with that all the time.
That is they just have a general anxiety.
You get anxiety when you fly out of fear?
All the time.
The fear of something happening on the plane?
Absolutely.
So, you know...
Every time the plane shakes, that's it.
The plane's going down.
This is the time it's happening.
You should Google.
Everybody tells me that.
Google the...
How does a plane work?
Maybe familiarize yourself with it.
You should Google.
Don't be scared, that's easier said than done.
Doesn't just work like that.
Just because I know how...
Oh, you're afraid of dogs?
Read a book that dogs are not...
That's out for you.
Yeah, they don't bite.
I'm talking about Googling the safety of planes.
When you get into your car, you're not nervous.
You don't have anxiety.
Supposedly, you have a better chance of being struck by lightning twice before you even
have a plane.
Doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It's all sense of control.
That's all it is.
You don't have any control.
You don't see the cockpit.
What he's suggesting is that you should go to the cockpit, learn the machines, learn
those engines.
But it's not just this, not just plane going down.
Also, sitting in a tight spot and I've been sprained right in my face.
I'm fighting with him for the armrest.
I find myself always fighting with the guy next to me.
And I want to be diplomatic about it.
I want to be nice.
I want to be rude.
So, usually, I end up conceding.
I'm the guy that concedes.
I let him take the armrest.
And I'm uncomfortable.
I just can't wait to get off the flight.
I'm not suggesting by the way that you go to the cockpit mid-flight.
That will not be good for you.
Stay away from that.
Please.
What's going on in the world that's been bothering you lately, Heshi?
I'm actually upset.
I'm actually upset at the thing they tell you about.
I'm not happy about the fact that they are using the court system as a personal way to
go after some of those in politics.
I'm upset.
They're weaponizing the court system to go after their opponents.
And they're making the court system.
You have to explain what you're talking about.
They're making the court system into...
Who's they?
The politicians, the Democrats are using the court system to lower the standard of what
court is supposed to be about.
Court is supposed to be about unbiased, judges supposed to be non-political, unpartisan.
How are they changing it?
Please, if you can explain.
Because they're bringing cases that they never would even dream about bringing if it wasn't
a political opponent.
And that's BS.
Correct.
That's not right.
It's clear as day that they're doing this just...
It's so clear after they put on their case, they put on such a lousy case.
What's an example?
Even CNN that is very democratic, MSNBC, if you listen in between the lines, have said
they didn't do a good job presenting a case.
They're not supposed to present cases that they don't do a good job.
They're the government.
They're not supposed to be biased.
The court is supposed to be a non-biased system.
That's been bothering you.
That's upsetting.
Yeah, it's upsetting.
Do you think it'll affect you personally?
I think it affects not me personally.
I think it affects everybody that we now look at the court system as a lower level than
the way we looked at it before.
It's lower.
Judges are willing to go along with a political agenda, whether they agree with it or not,
they become political.
Bushy, what's been bothering you in the world lately?
That's only one thing that's bothering me.
I'm with you.
I'm thinking about...
That's what a lot of things bother me, but bothers me to the point that...
I think that we are definitely in a place where we're just going to keep making things
worse.
I think everything is so divisive right now and so heated and everybody's so firm in their
own ways.
No one is seeing the other side even slightly.
You could present something with pictures and videos.
You could have all the hard evidence in the world and the other side will just spin it
in a certain way in order to keep their own views.
Everybody is so mired in their own ways that we're never going to be able to really get
along at a certain point.
I think it's going to just escalate and it's going to get worse and worse and worse.
It's a problem and it's scary.
Where do you think it comes from?
I actually agree with you.
You like college campus.
You go speak to someone who's against something and you try to reason with them or something.
They're not even listening.
Where is that coming from, Mashe?
What do you think it's coming from?
I'm not even talking about that.
Oh, I'm not talking about that specifically.
I'm talking about anything, any real, what's another example?
It doesn't matter if it's an example, any policy, whether it's good to have a high
tax or a low tax, whether it's good to, it doesn't matter what it is.
All those things, one person believes their way and they believe their way, they're never
going to see the other person's view.
They're just going to say a hundred times why they think they're right.
Another thing that I think is bothering a lot of people and I don't think we think
about it day to day, but I think if you really stop for a second, the fact that there's a
lot of anti-Semitism right now in the world because of maybe what's going on in Israel
or maybe what's going on in the economy and they're blaming on us, I think if you look
back in history, that everything that went bad for us in different countries started
off pretty much similar, where there was something going on in the world and people blamed
it on us, whether it was true or not.
People in Germany slowly blaming stuff on the Jews that had nothing to do with whatsoever
the Jews.
It slowly starts spinning out of control.
I think we don't think about it on a day to day, but I think deep down, I think it bothers
all of us that there's a crazy amount of anti-Semitism.
Bothers me slowly that there's a lot of anti-Semitism.
Whether it doesn't affect us because we're living in an area where nobody screams anything
and there aren't people, there's no George Washington Bridge here where there's stopping
so we can't get to work or things like that.
It's fine.
I want to tell you a great point.
I'm going to tie it in a second.
I wanted to respond to you, Oshe.
You're looking at the world and you're saying, so what's the point?
You have one side, you have another.
No one's ever going to concede to another.
Look at this card.
Right.
No, I understand what you're saying.
You know what I was thinking about as an answer and I want to tie it into what Heshi's
saying a second ago?
Is that at the end of the day, it's just going to be with majority.
That's what it is.
Majority of voters at least who are casting their votes to what they want to see and we're
living in a world we're choosing to live in America.
We're choosing to live in New York.
We're choosing to live in Rotland County and that's a choice that we made.
Whatever majority is in our community, similar to a shul.
If a shul wants to do something, majority doesn't like the rabbi.
The rabbi's out.
That's the way the world works.
There's nothing I don't think you could do about it.
What Heshi started saying with anti-Semitism is a little bit different.
That's like something you could do something about.
I'm curious what you thought was in that.
I'm not sure we could do anything about it.
It's just slowly creeping up and if you look at Heshi-
Well, you have to because you can't just ignore it.
You can't just say, oh, it's happening like the Democrats are happening in America and
that's where the world is leaning.
You have to.
That's my point.
What can you do about anti-Semitism?
A lot.
You fight hate by promoting love and there's a lot you can do in my opinion.
What we need to ask ourselves is why are all these people jumping onto the bandwagon
so quickly?
If you look at 90% of the people that are protesting and especially the younger generation, those
kids at the college campuses, they don't really know what's going on.
They don't know anything about the history of Palestine, of Israel.
They don't even know.
Yeah, they could have been.
They couldn't be.
Why are you here?
Yeah, it's very strange.
My friend told me to come.
Why did you come?
Yeah.
My friend told me.
So the real question is why?
Why were they so quick to jump on this fad of saying through Palestine?
What's the answer to that?
Where's they're coming from?
What is the answer?
Did they take up any other cause that they could have taken up for any other country
in the last 30 years?
They didn't.
They didn't?
Do you know what's the answer?
I don't know.
Obviously, there's something underlying here.
Nobody has the real answer to that.
You listen to that.
It's a shocking thing.
There's no great answer to that.
Why are people taking this up this course?
They're not doing the homework.
I think I have an answer.
I think I have a way of looking at it is that I'm going to say is that, first of all, they're
being told this a lot with their group of friends.
It grows.
Brainwash is a very big part of it.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's not that they're uneducated.
They're educated on other things.
As much as you educate them like, oh, she said before, you're not going to break them.
They're not listening.
They're completely brainwashed.
You know what the problem is?
You know what's coming from, Michael?
We are losing the social media war.
Everything that you see on social media is controlled by extremists, by the extreme left
wing, and that's what the young people are seeing.
That's what they're getting.
They're not getting their news like we used to get the news, actually make our own judgments
and make a, they're just being fed.
All of this propaganda all day, all the time.
And that's a real problem.
It's so vastly exposed.
Do you believe large scale?
Do you believe there's any people, amount of people that are on the fence that you can
talk to?
Is there anyone in general or is just right or left?
No, I do.
You do?
I do.
I do a lot of these kids.
If you take them into a room and you ask them to just listen and you give them an hour
lesson about what's really going on in this world.
The undecided ones.
Yeah, about the fact that Israel is the only democratic country in a place surrounded by
these vicious evil regimes that are really torturing their own people.
If you actually educated them a little bit, most of them, if not all of them, would actually
be like, wait a second, how did we get behind this?
There's going to be.
I agree with you because look at all the videos that came out on October 7th and it hasn't
done anything to these kids.
They see that these people were and.
No, I don't think they've seen enough of it.
Are there real clips of October 7th going around?
Of course there are.
Is it going as viral as you see these other things?
I don't think October 7th has been exposed into the public marketplace where you see
it everywhere, wherever you look, you see horrific things that happen.
They're actually not.
So what do you say?
Do you think every day take out ads, billboards, run ads about what happened?
I think we're losing the social media work.
I think that the message of hate is being spread a lot faster than the message of love.
Okay, I'm not arguing with you that because there's bots also.
They have systems in place that keep up the momentum.
And you know that they have live on TikTok these days where you can see people live in
Gaza, live in Rafa and supporters on there talking to them, chatting with them live.
On which side?
On TikTok?
On the Arab side.
What do you mean they're holding mics and they're talking live?
Yeah.
Hi, how are you?
This is what's going on.
This is our country.
This is what's happening.
And supporters and supporters.
Also, on Jewish people's social media, there's a lot of hate that's, you never see the opposite.
So obviously there's a lot of brainwashing going around.
But ultimately the answer I think is yes, we have to keep doing our part.
You can't just give up, right?
Because on this point, there are people that are in the middle of the road.
The only comfort I have is that the truth is for thousands of years, good has always
prevailed.
Right.
At the end of the day, we made it this far.
And there's been many people in the past that have come and try to strike us down,
not just us, other nationalities too.
And at the end of the day, the good guys have been winning.
But the scary thing is we've had to move a lot.
We've had to move around.
We had to jump from here to there.
That's our lot.
You guys lose or make any friends from this October 7th ordeal.
And by the way, I don't know.
Nothing comes off the mind of people that I have to disassociate myself with because
of their views that they were making known.
I don't think I had anything.
I haven't had any people who say I don't want to be your friend anymore because you're
Jewish.
Right.
The people that I'm in my circles, they're very careful, I guess, around what they say.
They don't want to lose the relationship.
You've had them?
I've had something to affect not exactly that.
But people said because you're Jewish and I don't want to know what's going on.
I have a lot of...
What really happened most in the college campus world where you had people that were like,
really good friends.
I'll tell you a story that happened to me.
I decided we can't be friends anymore because of what's going on.
Yeah, I'm not talking about college campus.
I'm saying that this is a true story.
It happened to me.
I have a lot of non-Jewish friends.
If you think about it for the past 20 years, you can end up making friends that are not
Jewish that are Arabs.
It could happen.
Of course.
I'm talking about the Arab at the Plaza Hotel that made sure D is someone that asks me to
bring things from America.
The head waiter at a restaurant in Israel, Arab guy, asked me to help his friend coming
into America and needs a place to travel.
Can I have a little bit of an afternoon with those people?
No, no, no.
I'm saying it can make sense to you that I have friends that are Muslim or Arabs.
It happens.
I'm friends with American non-Jewish Caucasian people that live in Miami, that live in Texas,
that live in upstate New York, that also have friends that are Muslims and Arabs, just in
general.
Some of those Muslim friends that they have are pro-Palestine, pro-Khamas.
I don't have an issue if they're trying to protect the people that are dying.
Unfortunately, it's casualties of war.
Talking about the people that are pro-Khamas, I have a non-Jewish friend, bottom line, that's
friends with pro-Khamas people.
It happens.
This person said to me after October 7th, I'm terribly sorry to what's happening to you
and what's happening to Jim.
I said, what's happening to Jim?
Well, Jim's family, he has family that's in Gaza and they're getting bombarded.
Yeah, but it doesn't mean that pro-Khamas, that people that are living there.
It was the beginning of the conversation.
Then we went to, but let me look up who this person is.
I went on their person's LinkedIn and Facebook page and I realized that this person was
pro-Khamas.
They were attending protests and screaming, right?
They were talking about it and I said, whoa, this is a little bit of a challenge.
You're friends with someone who's doing things that are directly against my community.
I'm not sure I can speak to you anymore.
What they say?
What was the reaction?
You asked to pick a side of this person.
This person did not want to pick a side.
They have to.
They argued that I want to be friends with both.
They argued with me for over two hours and I said, you have to pick a side.
There comes a time in your life.
Interesting.
Or you have to pick a side.
This is life and death.
That's what this is.
Without relation.
You must pick a side.
Yeah.
You can't just be past.
He wasn't happy.
There are people that could say, I feel bad for the Jews, but I also feel bad for the
Palestinians that live in Gaza that got forced to take on a lot of these things.
Sorry, you're talking about the casualties.
Of course.
I understand that.
Yeah, you can feel bad for both.
But if someone could say, I'm pro Hamas, I believe in what Hamas does.
And their charter.
And I...
Which is to eradicate all of the Jews.
And their friend for 20 years happened to be friends with me and this conversation and
the topic never came up.
By the way, Hamas' problem is not only to eradicate the Jews, they have other radical
things that they believe in also.
American also.
Not the Jews.
They believe in the way they treat their own people.
Destruction of democracy.
Right.
That's everything.
Everybody that's non-Jews.
Anyway, it's the idea.
That says, I'm pro Hamas, yet I'm pro Israel.
He's a country.
Sure, but that was that guy.
But what about his friend that we were all friends and we never brought this topic up?
He's not in the telegy.
We never discussed politics.
So this is what happened.
Yeah, I think it...
They want the world to follow Sharia law, ultimately.
Right.
That's what they want.
Right.
Then he can't say I'm pro Israel.
He can't say I'm pro America.
Right.
He's just saying he's got nothing.
Yeah.
If he wants there to be Sharia law, then he doesn't believe it in freedom.
Sharia law is a contradiction to freedom.
You have rights to do something, but the other person doesn't have rights.
Especially we had a couple of questions, I mean topics that we were going to bring up
and we have to close up in a couple of minutes.
So before we close, I'm going to ask one of the questions here that we discussed that
maybe we're going to ask our co-hosts and so on.
This was one of them that I said before, what's irking you that's going on in the world, what's
bothering you.
That question goes over well.
I feel like I'm going to ask it in the future without saying in the world because I'd like
to invite conversation.
As far as personal.
Yeah.
I'm not telling you you have to.
Choose to share that comment.
Exactly.
So the same thing I would think.
They could always say it's none of your business.
So I'll go right into the podcast.
So I'm going to ask you this next question and actually Heshi, the question before was
for you.
So Heshi, I'm going to put this one on you.
If you can pick, this was actually your question that you came up today.
If you could pick another career and start over, not in healthcare, not in helping people,
what would it be?
It's not my question, but I think it's a great question.
So the interesting thing is, is I would probably pick real estate because you know, everybody
who's.
No, no, let's rephrase this question.
You want a specific career?
To this question.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, I'm asking it differently.
You don't have $10 million in the bank right now and we're going to say, oh, Heshi, you're
out of healthcare.
Now what are you going to do?
No, no, it's not what we're saying.
Heshi, here's the little, let me paint you a picture.
Let me paint you a picture of what we're asking.
What we're asking is that Heshi at this point doesn't have a wife, you don't have your kids
right now.
You're 22 years old.
22 years old.
Okay.
You haven't earned yet any money and you're now in a position of, oh, what am I going to
do with myself?
What am I going to do with my life?
So, and we tell you that we're eliminating healthcare.
It's not an option for you.
What do you do?
What steps do you take?
What's exciting to you?
What do you think that would work out?
So I'm going to stick with my answer.
I would want to do something, I'm very happy with healthcare and I'm very happy that I
should have sent me the way he did, but I would want to do something in real estate.
Business doesn't have to be.
So you would go work for someone?
You'd go work for a company?
Or you'd go try to figure out real estate management and work for someone and try to
work my way out.
Those are the two industries that talk to me, healthcare or real estate.
Good choice again, by the way.
Good choice.
That's what talks to me.
Yeah.
Healthcare is a little bit of both.
Healthcare is also real estate.
But those two industries...
Just like McDonald's was.
But...
You ever watched that movie?
But I understand what someone says, I want to do, I want to be an electrician, I want
to be a plumber.
I understand different fields.
It just doesn't talk to me those fields.
Interesting.
What would you address?
I don't think I would ever want to do a field where I would have to physically work.
It doesn't talk to me.
Physically use my answer.
But I understand that.
I understand...
Lucy, what would be your answer?
I probably want to get involved in something sports related.
So maybe trying to build my way up to become a commentator, to become an analyst, to become
a sports announcer, something like that.
Very difficult.
But I would start the path.
I would start that.
And the religious Jew that's very difficult to...
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
We're not talking about that.
We're just saying what he would want to do.
What he wanted.
I do it.
I want to do it.
Nothing to do with it.
Yeah.
I understand that's not practical.
And I understand that.
Very not practical.
I get it.
But that would be what I would like to do.
And I would definitely take a job somewhere, put it this way.
I wouldn't just sit around and wait for things to happen or try to make big business deals.
I would just get a job somewhere.
I can't not have a job.
I would first take a job, no matter what it is, and then try to keep things going.
I don't think there's such a thing as a good business or a bad business.
Every business...
Any business that you're in...
As upside...
You go into it and you try your best.
You can be successful in it.
And build that business up.
As upside, downside, edicts, advantages.
Yeah, except what Uschi's answer is not money-centric.
Your answer is money-centric.
In other words, Uschi's using his emotions to what he would appreciate doing.
No, it wasn't money-centered by me.
It was the type of business that I wanted to go with.
I would want to go into a business that I didn't have to physically use my hands.
He's not physically using his hands.
No, right?
He's not doing something that he's passionate about.
If we go back to you, real estate is not your passion.
Making money is your passion.
So what would be your passion?
Making money without having to be time-diving.
Sure.
So do you have a passion that you would want to make money with?
Is that such a thing exists?
Yeah, don't pretend like you're only going to go into business that you know you're going
to make a lot of money.
Let's assume that you wouldn't be making a lot of money.
What business would you go in?
Or that you would make money doing anything.
Yeah, we'll tell you that.
You're not going to make a lot of money.
A feel that it didn't make a difference how much money it was.
It wasn't about money, it was just something that I would enjoy doing.
And let's say I wasn't religious and nothing would do with being a family.
Sure.
Did you ever fly?
You ever had any fling?
I actually wanted to do it.
Neil did it once.
Why did you join him?
I asked my wife and she was like, oh, that's why.
I'm going to tell you about it.
If I was 22 years of sure, I wasn't religious.
I didn't have a drive to make a lot of money.
Remember, you have to.
Of course.
Yeah, we're saying that.
Then I would maybe pick something.
Wow.
It's an interesting answer.
I actually like it.
I like the reason why.
It's because of the speed.
No, no, I get it.
No, but because of the speed.
Because of the speed of it.
Speed and adrenaline, you know.
Right.
Michael, let's call it.
Yeah, no, we are.
We said we are.
Anyways, so that's a wrap.
Thank you very much, guys.
We will see you next time.