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I know this is all because my brother is so jealous of me. No, he's doing everything I do

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Maybe he got a hot Asian wife first. I got a Thai wife. Sounds good as a Japanese wife

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I still got one so he got nothing to be jealous of me about now y'all listen up

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If you don't I'm going to come over there and beat the head of all of you now still

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Kevin's wife is not as good as my Asian Thai girlfriend, but I don't care now. This is the last time

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You got to stop talking about me on a

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Anyway, all the foods are safe shaped like sausages and penises

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Now this is the last time I'm going to tell you all stop talking about me or I will be over there

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Listen up you big breakfast mucho mania I'm back. I got a

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128 all beef by my friends

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They're an Emmy from the side of the ring because it's the morning of fourth of July, but I'm all out of

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Cinnamon Toastcrush

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Like I know you mucho maniacs mucho maniac enough to join the mucho man

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in having a

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Breakfast I look forward to hearing yours

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Yes, this is Kevin O'Malley third co-host calling about today's episode on July 11th

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You guys mentioned that Jean-Claude Van Damme played the predator and the classic movement predators

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He was lined up to do that before they redesigned it when he was

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You know there are pictures of him in the costume when it looked more like a giant insect

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But then they redesigned it to what we currently know as the predator and I was played by Kevin Michael Hall

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So I just wanted to point that out and encourage you guys to get your facts straight next time. I

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love you

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Big trouble, I eat pieces of shit like me for breakfast

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You eat pieces of shit for breakfast? No

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To one rolling welcome and good morning. This is breakfast of champion season one episode

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Nine get into it

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I'm one of your co-hosts Renee Floyd and we have the other co-host over there. His name is

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Parker Howard. This is the first time we're coming to you on video. So if we act really strange and we don't know what to do with our hands

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It's because this is the first time but since you're seeing us we have to introduce our guest write-off rip. This is Seth Gilmore

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Howdy, I'm so excited to have Seth here for those of you that don't know Seth

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he will is the lead singer for fugitive and also the new lead singer for

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power trip and also Scourge and I

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I actually didn't know Seth's last name until like a few years ago because I always knew him as Seth group

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We're so happy to have stuff here. He's blessed us with his presence and we just want to get into some breakfast and some violence

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But then he's an interesting guy is one of Parker's friends. So thank you right off from coming and blessing us with your presence

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Let's talk

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What do we want to talk about first? Let's see here

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We have you want to plug some socials and do that first right off top. Okay

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so if you're not following us on Instagram or

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If you're old Facebook or her tick tock or anything like that

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We're at breakfast of champs pod on all socials if you want to give us a call

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I've been hearing a lot of cool voicemails. We're gonna include those on this episode

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We've got much of man. He made a return. We've also got a call from Tarrant County Corrections facility

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So we're excited about that. You'll hear that on this. We'll throw that at the beginning of this podcast

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So if you're listening to this, you've just heard our voicemails from munch of man and and also TCC. So

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Thank you guys for giving us a call the phone number again six eight two two nine four zero one zero one

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If you want to talk to us and tell us why we're wrong tell us where we should go eat breakfast

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Just quickly a recap. Mr. James Gray sent me a message and he did make it out to

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Cinnamon roll place in Lake Worth that we were talking about sweet Georgia Browns. Yeah

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ginger browns ginger browns

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He messaged me this weekend sent me a picture of him with the cinnamon roll

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So a little follow-up for those of you that enjoyed that episode his episode is our most listened to and downloaded episodes

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We talked about cinnamon rolls in there

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He made it out to Lake Worth to try my suggestion and said it was probably one of the best cinnamon rolls

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He's ever had so

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Yeah, give us a call if you can give us a better recommendation for cinnamon rolls donuts. We got breakfast tacos this morning

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We're doing it, right. So

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Thanks. Thanks guys for coming in and enjoying some breakfast tacos with me

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Let's see here. We got you want to introduce what we got. Yeah, so we got salsa limon

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I'm just gonna put it up on the table here throw it up there

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We got salsa limon. We got a chorizo egg and cheese. Is there cheese on there?

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I think it's just eggs. Yeah, three zone egg taco. We got a

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Bacon egg taco and then looks like a potato and egg taco. So we're coming to you live from Center here in Fort Worth

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It's where I work

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They are our kind of pseudo first sponsor

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They said we could use their space. It's kind of a cool space cool looking space with you know, a nice light and wallpaper

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So thank you senator. Thank you read. Thank you Jason for letting us film here

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we are located on Magnolia in the south side of Fort Worth and

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We figured what better way to kick off our video episode with like championing the neighborhood. So right next door is salsa limon

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We got our tacos from there

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Milo owns that place. They've got a few locations around. He's a really cool dude. They've got some really great food and then

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Parker really bringing it back for me

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We have a vodka for our beverage today

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I worked at a vodka for four and a half years and a lot of our friends have worked there

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I mean our entire band work there at one point

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I work across the street from a

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14 years. Yeah, so if you are a fan of our previous work unspell our emotional hardcore band

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Jordan the lead singer Brian the drummer me the guitar player and editor actually our second guitar player

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We all worked at a vocal at one point and Parker was just right across the street at spiral diner

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So if you are from Fort Worth, you know the hood, you know the street, you know

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How important this hood is we just wanted to kind of grab some of that stuff showcase the hood come down and see us here

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Center I've got shoes clothes

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At good times I got PlayStation up here if you want to come kick my butt and UFC for anything like that

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So I'll stop talking. Let's get into some breakfast tacos

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I'm gonna eat first so that way you guys can talk a little bit if that's cool

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I'm gonna go potato potato

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I'll go potato. I'll let you pass that over. Yeah

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Swag have you Seth? Have you had salsa limon breakfast before I've had a lot of salsa. Yeah, me too. I fucking love

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Amazing the potato one like the mashed potatoes. They put on amazing. I don't know if I've ever had a potato

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Breakfast taco from there. Well, let's lady in the tree of this bad

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Because yeah, no the mashed potatoes on there it looks interesting

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I was expecting like cube potatoes for a potato taco, but that's that's interesting

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I my son always goes for the chorizo and I won. Yeah, I've had that one a couple times. I usually I

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Usually get it for dinner. So I'm usually doing like a burrito or a torta. Yeah, torta's are amazing there

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Yeah, and they're fucking huge. They are huge. Also the what are the poles called? They call in there? Oh

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Is it like the mocha mocha? Yeah, those are good. They're good

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Also, they have a great lunch like the the copy to all Capitan tacos. Yeah, the barbecue is really good and I

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I remember when they were over in a truck off of

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University and Barry like right across from TCU. I'd get off work at like midnight and they'd be outside this

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What part was that was it the cellar? Mm-hmm

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And I'd be out there like I'd get there at like 1230 and they'd be there until 2 and we just like go get drinks

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And get tacos and hang out and that was the fucking best. Yeah, that's a that's that's bomb right there

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Yeah, that that was smart marketing on them

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And then just to see how far they've grown has been awesome. Yeah, it's awesome

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They have how many locations now that the one off of?

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University yeah, what settlement this one and then I know that one in the museum district to the bar museum

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Yeah, and I know they had a couple in Dallas. I'm not sure if they're still there and then there's one in the Grand Plaza

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I think that's their original location and there's one in Austin now, too

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Oh shit, I didn't realize I should know I did know that I had forgotten about it

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Damn, look at them blowing up good for them. Yeah going salsa's been kind of in our lives for quite some time

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If you played the aardvark or the cellar any of those bars that were over there in the TCU area

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That's where the truck was set up

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If you have DJ late night in and around Fort Worth bar museum, Jake Palachuk booked that for a while and so

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Salsa limon always near and dear to my heart. I've got a cool playlist for that

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particular spot. Oh, no, not my phone not my notes

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Yeah, salsa limon in my mind. I always think late night

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Yeah, is there one of the few places that are just like straight up late night all the time

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So if you've ever been out and about and you wanted a taco late night salsa limon's place to hit up

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Usually pretty good food always feel good. I've rarely ever had a bad experience or yeah, do they still do the karaoke? Oh, yeah

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Yeah, yeah heavy. So every Jake thing or was a

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Milo thing. No, that's a Milo thing because they're still doing it over here on Thursdays when I leave for work. They're just

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Pumping and so yeah, they're really passionate about karaoke over there every Thursday without fail

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You can you can find a spot to do some karaoke. So

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You want to try some are you good right now? Yeah, we have to get your opinion

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Y'all we're gonna we're gonna rate the tacos. I saw your your lime scale

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Limon limon scale one through six limon's

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The bacon an egg. Hell yeah. Yeah classic breakfast and I'm gonna put the jalapeno

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That is the best one oh dude, so good I tried to recreate it at home and it was good

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It wasn't quite right, but it was it was good. Let's talk salsa recipes. Do you uh, uh

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Roast your roast your veggies. Yeah, I throw them out on the smoker like wood smoke them get them all like

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Blackened and then do it. Yeah. Yeah

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Do you remember Nathan Brown before he moved to Connecticut? I don't think so. He was like a

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noise musician

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Kind of like electronic guy. He ran dead media tapes, which is like a eight-track

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That sounds familiar

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Like I think Ozzy asked them to reprint something on eight-track and he he like got that or something like that

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That all that sounds familiar, but I don't think I actually knew him. He's a cool guy

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Definitely played some shows with him, but um he

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He has an interesting character in his life. His his dad goes by the name. Dr. Bone

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because he is like a professor of like trombone and

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just like I

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live for the updates on Dr. Bone because he just seems like the character of all characters when it comes to dads, but um

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He named his salsa. It's

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S a l z a after Dr. Bone and he sold it on on the street for a long time

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But that is some of the best salsa I've ever had and all him salsa. Yeah salsa

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He had roasted all his veggies on just a regular Weber with like wood chips and like just

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It was stupid good. How good that salsa was awesome

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Salsa is really easy to make but it's one of those things where it's like

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It's so easy to just get a good one from the store that it's like almost not worth it

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But I enjoy the cooking aspect of it roasting the vegetables

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It's like it just makes it that much better in my opinion

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You can like really tweak it and make it your own like oh, hey, it tastes similar, but I gave it the Dr. Bone treatment

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Excuse me, what's your favorite all-time breakfast taco that you've probably had? Do you know?

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I try think

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And say, oh Austin, how's good breakfast? Oh good. You know, I don't think I've ever had a breakfast taco in Austin

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I also try and stay away from Austin

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Man probably just like something I got off of like a taco truck. Yeah, like

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Don't know the name of it. Just like appeared in the mist and disappeared. I never got to have it again. I I

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My dad, he's like

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Uh, my dad speaks of this mythical breakfast burrito in like midland or obdessa

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I forget which one it is

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But there's like this gas station that has like this green chili pork breakfast burrito. Is it laredo taco company?

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I don't think it is. I think it's like a mom and I I don't think it's a gas station tons of stuff about

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Laredo taco company. Have you had that on never in your travels? Is it the one that's like in the gas station?

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Yeah, it's always in the gas station. I know they open one in tyler and everyone talks shit on that

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they're like no it has to be from like

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Southwest texas if it's not from southwest texas like if it's not southwest of san antonio, it's not real

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Well, i'm sure they eat it

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Yeah, just as well

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But I know they've got like a green chili pork taco that's like supposed to be amazing

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Maybe that's it. I'll just have to call my dad and figure that out

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But she gets her dad on the show. We talk about him a lot. Yeah, my dad's a cool guy. He's a

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He's a character. He's the missions director for the baptist general convention of texas. So if you want to get into he knows violence

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My dad used to say

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Whatever like that sort of silliness came up. He would be like it's time for some wall-to-wall counseling

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some prayer and suffering

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Yeah, uh, so on a scale of one to six limos

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Um, do you want to rate this set one to six? Yeah one to six. I'll give it a six

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I think it's a great taco perfect taco. I think the jalapeno salsa they have with is amazing

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Yeah, I would go 5.5 for me

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Um, I would I would say it's right up there with some of the best tacos i've ever had all of the fillings are always

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Full they don't skip on their proteins or their fillings

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Um, everything's made pretty much to order there

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Uh, their salsas are fresh. They're very tasty. You cannot go wrong with the salsa limon burrito

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Yeah, i'm gonna go 5.5 as well. Yeah

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Just because perfection is always just barely out of reach. That's right. Um, but no like the tortillas are

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Fluffy and nice and the salsa like everything the portioning love it. Yeah

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Uh, just quickly if you are joining us from anywhere around the world

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We wanted to say a quick thank you. I was just taking a look at our uh numbers and we have people that are listening in china

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Uh, so, uh, just thank you for everybody that doesn't live in fort worth and doesn't know about salsa limon

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If you ever come to visit fort worth, please check out salsa limon. There's many locations if you're in austin check them out

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We also have a voca coffee here and I just want to touch base on them real quick

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They have a few locations or had a few locations. I think one's still in dallas

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I think the dent one closed. Oh, I haven't heard about that. I know that the stockyard one is still going

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And the foch is still going. Yeah, so if you're in fort worth and you're looking for a good cup of coffee

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A voca is always going to be a good bet

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Um my personal favorite if you've never tried it something outside of the box is the charlie sheen

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Uh, it is iced coffee and mexican coke mixed together

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You get the little extra mexican coke so you can keep on mixing it in and making a little bit sweeter as it goes

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But that's one of my favorite things to get completely jacked out of my mind. I

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That I would do a yama shot and then get the mexican coke on the side

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Yeah, have you ever had yama before? I haven't had yama. So yama is a slow process

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Uh drip coffee that comes from japan. It's usually three towers

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The first tower is going to be ice that drips down five drops per minute

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Six drops per minute

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You kind of have to time it into the second basin which is filled with ground coffee

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And then it slowly drips through all of that and then you collect it in the third basin

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It's like a wooden and glass tower

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And so it takes about 24 hours to get a full brew of yama

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And so it's slow you have to kind of time it and so you can ruin it very easily if you too much water

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Not enough time that sort of thing and so

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Um, they do a really good yama shot there and then during the holidays they have one that's called

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Event horizon. Oh, I forgot about it

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So event horizon comes around during the holidays and what they do is they layer the shot with some heavy cream

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And then they dust some nutmeg on top of it

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And so you're supposed to just have it in one quick shot and it just like it's like

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Christmas thanksgiving tasting in your mouth and one shot and of course, it's heavily caffeinated. So you're like

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I went during like thanksgiving and christmas when I worked at spiral. It was like crazy

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We would do like hundreds of orders for thanksgiving and christmas and I would live off of yama shots and event horizons because

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I'd be working like

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18 to 20 hours a day some days and so yeah, I was just like pounding those

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I would also do a yama shot and we had these CBD like colas and I'd mix those so I'd like get all the caffeine

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But get like the CBD to like mellow it out and it was the perfect balance

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And I would drink like two or three of those a day. How much caffeine is in a yama shot?

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I would say it's probably the equivalent of like a shot and a half to two shots of espresso. Yeah, it's pretty concentrated

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Oh, yeah, also, i'm sorry. They also uh

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Put like a sugar in it as well while it's brewing. So it's like a mixture of of uh cold brew and sugar

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And so it's a sweeter shot. It's very strong, but it's it's sweeter as well. It's Swedish

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um, so yeah if you

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The Swedish the Swedish the Swedish

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Uh, so yeah, if you're looking for good coffee evoke is a place try trolley sheen try yama try an event horizon

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Uh, all of their coffee is roasted here in fort worth, Texas

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Um the long line of coffee farmers from nicaragua

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They still source the most ethically and organically grown coffee that you could possibly get on the planet

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So you can feel good about drinking?

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Uh coffee from evoke also the thing that since i'm insider baseball

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um, there's a lot of coffee shops that don't really um, like

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Test or prime their espresso and that's one of the things that every shift person that comes on at evoke is

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Testing and tasting the the coffee and really dialing it in to make sure that it tastes good

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That's one of my least favorite things. It's like I rarely drink coffee

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But when I do I want a shot of espresso and I want it to taste nice

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Um, so that's kind of where you know, if we go out to other coffee shops

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I'm just like let me just try your espresso before I go anywhere else my go-to is I get a shot of espresso and a black

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Coffee every time I go to a new coffee shop. That's how I

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Know if i'm gonna get anything else there is I just get those and that's because

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Of you and brian and edder and also heather worked there

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So I gotta see her go through all the training and so i forgot heather work. Yeah, she opened the foch store

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Yeah with jake and kyle. It's all in the family. Yeah, so I uh, I became an espresso knob one

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Snob once you started working there. It gets pretty annoying once you know about like all like how the sausage is made

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You're like, oh just make it right. The veil has been ripped back and you'll never taste espresso the same again

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Yeah, so

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Uh salsa limon, we got a 5.5 and a 6 uh evoca coffee

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One out of six cold brews six cold brews. Yeah, can't go wrong. Yeah, it's their best cold brew that

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The best thing they have there is the cold brew

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Cool. Well, I guess we can like kind of get into it now. We got the breakfast part out of the way

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So now we'll we'll talk violence with seth

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Let's talk some violence so I guess first uh

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I'm trying to think when when I met you was probably around 2009 or so I moved here in 2009. Okay, because I

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I was playing in human error at the time

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And so and the whole time I was in human error was very fuzzy for me. I don't remember a whole lot of it. Yeah, um

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But so yeah, I I remember you were playing in losing grip

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Which was austin base? Did you move here from austin? I had moved from austin my um, my family had relocated up here

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And I was 18 turning 19 and so I was like, well, I guess i'll just get up there as well. Yeah, and um

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Yeah

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Came here in 2009. I'm pretty sure human error

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Might have been the first or second van. I I saw when I moved to oh shit. Okay

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And the lore was already down in austin about all the shows are violent. They're crazy. They're crazy guys

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And uh, yeah, it was it was both those things

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That's I actually I had somebody message me this morning because I posted a picture on instagram of my daughter wearing a human error shirt

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And I had this dude dan who lives in las vegas now, but he used to hang out at 1919 all the time

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And he's like man, I remember the last show because we advertised the show was the last show

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And it was uh, it was just our last show of the year, but this kid drove down from arkansas

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Thinking we were never gonna play again

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He cut his hand open moshing on the ac unit

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And then proceeded to throw blood all over everyone in the audience and people were trying to get him to stop like hey man

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You need to go to the hospital. You need stitches. He's like no, it's her last show

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And he's just hurling blood. It's like when the lights came up. There's just blood all over 1919

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Rick was pissed. I had to clean it all up. Oh man

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Um, but yeah speaking of 1919 we'd be remiss if we didn't mention the facebook group that's popping off right now. Oh, yeah, there's a

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New facebook group. I'm not sure if you're on facebook. I'm not on okay. Yeah, don't get on it

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Yeah, no, it's I was off of it and then this dude was like hey we get this thing

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And i've also been promoting my new burger thing and so

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I signed up and now i've been on facebook like every day because it's just people posting memories from as far back as 2003

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Oh, man, I might have to go on facebook. It's like sounds awesome. Yeah, it's it's really cool. There's lots of cool old pictures

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I've seen some photos of human error. I never saw lots of old power trip pictures

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I'm sure that gray probably has some losing grip pictures from when you guys played there. Let's uh, hope not

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And also speaking of losing grip so

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There was a dude that worked at spiral as a line cook with me for a while named ryan and he said that he filled in on

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Drums and losing grip a couple times. Yeah, um from from austin. Yeah. Yeah

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He's still like no this was this was years ago. Okay. Yeah, uh, he we live in cedar park area

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Okay, what was his last name? I don't remember his last name. He was a cool dude. He was kind of quiet

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He was very nice. I think he went to the peace corps. Yeah, that's right

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He came to spiral after the peace corps. Yeah

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And he was a line cook and that's kind of how he and I hit it off because he was like kind of like

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New to fort worth and I was like he's like

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What can music grant you and I told him and he's like, oh, yeah

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I played in a hardcore band called losing grip like I filled in on drums. I was like, oh fuck

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I know seth like and like I know cody and all them and he's like, oh really?

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Okay, and we hit it off and he and I hung out like a handful of times and super super nice guy

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Yeah, super sweet, dude. I haven't I lost track of him. I have no idea where he is today

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I don't I don't either

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Ryan if you're out there contact us at breakfast of champs pot at gml.com. We also have a phone number 682 294

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0101 we'd like to hear from you. What are you doing? Where you at back in the peace corps?

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Would love to know also what's your last name?

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I want to say it's really an M or something. It's gonna bother me. I know it'll come to you guys

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Yeah, so how did you guys meet you saw haven't got to that?

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I mean I again that whole time was hazy. So I'm sure it was like at a 1919 show for sure

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Yeah, bro down at a show like yeah, I mean there are so many people that I meet that

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Oh, yeah, I met you at 1919 at a human error. So I'm just like I believe you but yeah, I wasn't there

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Yeah, or like when Nick and I lived together there was

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So many people have met. Oh, yeah, what's a party at your house? Cool, man. I was there, but I wasn't there. Yeah, so

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So yeah, I it was definitely 1919. It was through hardcore

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Let's I feel like that's how I met most of my friends for sure was pretty much met everyone either there

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Maybe like a random one-off show at the Alamo. Oh god. Yeah Alamo or something like that

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Renee, did you ever go to the Alamo? No, we had somebody literally smoke meth during a human error set there. Sounds right

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I think it was power trips

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Tour kickoff and it was human error seven inch release. It was

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I want to say it was like a

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Downpresser. Yeah, it was downpresser. I forget who all played that that show was crazy

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We were pressed up against our amps the whole time and the owner of the Alamo

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Was just sitting in the back smoking meth. That's what that's sick

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Yeah, and there's like fucking 15 year old kids like there and he's just smoking meth

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Smell like burnt plastic and shit. It was over off a Las Vegas trail. Yeah, um par for the course over there

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But yeah that that place was one of the most

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I've never been there and I only got to play 1919 maybe twice I think

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once as Ill Smiths and once as woes kind of towards the end whenever

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It was kind of getting shaky and people were being accused of stuff and all that stuff

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So there was also a club right across from 1919. That was like 1912

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And that place is another place of likes talking about like drugs and stuff

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I know a couple girls who got roofied there. That's crazy. But what's crazy is I've also seen some of the best shows at that 1912

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I saw a son of Stan play there with bummer vacation and

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Shout out Paul Hernandez. I mean

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Just a cool cool venue because of all the mirrors, but also you just knew that there was just like drugs in the bathroom

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Oh, yeah, so I was like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna go to the bathroom

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I'm gonna go to the bathroom. I'm gonna go to the bathroom. I'm gonna go to the bathroom

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Drugs in the bathroom. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So I I only went to like a handful of shows there

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I know that full of hell played there. I want to say with the body they did like a joint set

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I can't even imagine that in that room. They had two stages set up and

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So they would like the band would like play at each other. It was like a small fest that they did one time

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I know kill the client played it

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I forget who all played but it was like a crazy show and then I saw

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This like crusty DB band and I hate myself for not being able to think of the name of them there from like the Boston area

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They're just like a

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Oh, it'll come to me later, but I saw them play and there weren't that many people who showed up like although like

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Punk dude showed up but nobody else really showed up and the singer was kind of pissed because nobody was moshing. So he took the

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Disco ball that was on the ceiling

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He punched it off the ceiling and then proceeded to smash it and throw it at everyone in the bar

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Yes, and then broke a couple chairs stuck a chair in the ceiling. Like it was one of the last shows there. I believe yeah

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I imagine yeah, but yeah, that's just cool because you know, it's like a story from a certain area era exactly that couldn't happen now

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Yeah, no, it would not happen now. So it it's been cool

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Again that 1919 Facebook page or some photos from stuff like that on there too. You can smell some of those photos. Oh

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Yeah, definitely smell a vision on the 1990 page

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So you moved here from Austin Austin? Yeah, were you originally from there? Have you always lived there originally from El Paso?

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Dude, so way out well

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I was born in El Paso. Oh really? Yeah, my family lives there now. That's awesome

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Yeah, I just was there for my sister's graduation two weeks ago and then how was it? Great. Yeah

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I love El Paso. Like I said, all my family lives there. I was born there

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I actually never lived there like six months after I was born. We moved to Alaska

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So I've never lived there like as an adult or like in my life at all really

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But I was born there and have gone back there every summer pretty much since since then but yeah, my grandparents live there

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All my aunts and uncles and cousins and stuff like that live there. So that's crazy. No, I love it

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I think El Paso is one of the best cities in America. I mean probably a little biased I grew up there, but

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There's nothing else like it. That's crazy. That's your from El Paso. Yeah, that's great. Great place. Go to El Paso. Yeah

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Did you go to school there? So I went I was there

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I was there in elementary and middle school and then I left right before high school

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It was kind of strange because my family just moved a lot in general

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But we had moved to Austin when I was about 13 and then we moved back

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Like six months later, we were there for another year and then I came back to Austin. Gotcha. Yeah

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Yeah, we moved around a lot too. My dad was in the military and then he got into ministry

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So we've lived in Alaska, Indiana. We lived in Lampasas kind of down in that area too

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And then whenever he decided that he wanted to be a pastor we moved up to Fort Worth so he could go to the seminary

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Okay, so similar situation where like just kind of moving all of the time

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Very cool El Paso. Yeah, my dad sold drugs. That's why we moved a lot

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Wow, nice pharmaceutical salesman in the 80s and 90s

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So we've moved all over too, but

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Different reasons. You want a lightning round it? Yeah, that's actually I just pulled those up

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So we have we we call it lightning round, but it's uh, what is a lightning round? We just we have

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Like 15 to 18 questions. We're just gonna we ask all of our guests. Okay, so kind of uh get to know you

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First question. What's your social?

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No

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Go ahead. So I'm gonna skip number one

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Yeah, we know the answer. Yeah, what is your typical day-to-day breakfast routine?

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So

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Typically, I'll just make like a bowl of oatmeal. Oh, yeah, not very exciting at all

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But it's filling and it's quick and you can get out the door

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on the weekends

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eggs potato

410
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I've been on a on the sausage kick lately. So

411
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,840
Mostly sausage. All right. Yeah, that was bacon for a long time

412
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,920
But kind of got burnt out. Yeah, I I recently bought a different brand of bacon

413
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:34,640
I think it's called king's bacon and it's like thick cut and it cooks up perfectly every time and i've been like jamming on that I bought

414
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,200
80 in the microwave. No

415
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,520
I thought about it

416
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,840
Every time I go to cook bacon, I'm like I should microwave this and send Rene a picture just to piss him off

417
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,120
No, but I think I'm gonna go with the

418
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:52,640
Microwave this and send Rene a picture just to piss him off. Um, no, but yeah, I

419
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,760
Oatmeal is my go-to as well

420
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,600
Like I usually fry an egg and throw it on top or on the oatmeal. Yeah

421
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,480
I've never done that. I'll do egg whites

422
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,360
Like if i'm trying to be good, i'll just like fry up some egg whites and throw them right on top

423
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,760
I gotta try it. It's it's pretty good

424
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,600
You get a little extra protein on there

425
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,280
And if you're feeling like real frisky, you can throw like a little bit of maple syrup on there, too

426
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,280
This is crazy. I've never heard anything like this

427
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,840
Yeah, yeah, i'm always just like oh man, I need a little bit more so i'm gonna do that. So hell yeah

428
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,200
Uh, what is your all-time favorite breakfast cereal?

429
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,200
Ooh

430
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:35,280
Probably honey bunches of oats if we're being honest. Okay. Yeah, you're you're the first one to give a different answer

431
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:41,120
Really? It's been cinnamon toast crunch every time. I like cinnamon toast crunch. I like the french toast crunch more though

432
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,440
Okay, do you remember that one? Yeah

433
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,680
Yeah, that that one we talked we actually we just did an episode all about

434
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,520
Cinnamon toast crunch and it's lore. Yeah, I don't know the lore

435
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,400
We got an episode about it

436
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,400
quickly

437
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,400
renee's very passionate about

438
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:05,040
They stole this idea from a child first and foremost and they gave that to stole a scientist stole it from a child

439
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,160
They gave him a set of hot wheels and told him go along your merry way so we can make a billion dollars

440
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,320
Oh my god, I know and then uh

441
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:19,760
Uh, what was the other part? Oh, yeah, they they have uh an older baker named wendell as their uh, original mascot

442
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:27,200
There were three of them. There were three bakers wendell killed the other two and then then the unhinged square killed wendell

443
00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:33,600
Cannibalistic cinnamon toast squares now. Yeah, we love cinnamon toast crunch way too much. That's awesome

444
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,680
If you could build a perfect breakfast sandwich, what would it consist of? Oh man? Um

445
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:46,080
Um, and let's get details here. Like don't just say bread what kind of you know, it would be a sourdough bread

446
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,320
Yep, um, heb does this lemon mayo. I don't know if they all ever had it. It is really good

447
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Uh, probably lettuce tomato bacon egg fried and fried egg actually

448
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,440
Recently i've been liking scrambled eggs on my breakfast sandwiches kind of make more of like a a patty with it. Yeah

449
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,400
Nice, that sounds really good. It's almost like a blt with an egg

450
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,400
On top harvati cheese. Yeah

451
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,880
That just sent it over the top. Yep. That's that's the way to go

452
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,520
All right. So, uh, what is your breakfast guilty pleasure?

453
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,640
um

454
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,720
Defined guilty pleasure is in like something unhealthy or it could be unhealthy something that you don't eat often

455
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,320
But like if it could be a restaurant or even something that you know, like this is gonna make me feel like garbage

456
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,320
But i'm gonna eat it anyway type situation

457
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,240
Uh, like some people really love taco bell

458
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,040
Uh, no, not taco bell like the baja blaster

459
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,960
This I mean, this isn't really a maybe it's not really breakfast but cold spaghetti sometimes like leftover leftover spaghetti

460
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,920
I like that a lot for breakfast. I've definitely eaten that for breakfast before

461
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,700
You know what I had this morning at like 2 a.m. I had cold flautas

462
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,680
I bet that was pretty good. Yeah

463
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,480
They were just like I just doused them in a bunch of guacamole and salt and they were just they were just in the

464
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:10,720
Like I was so tired last night. I didn't eat anything and it was just like cold anything cold is kind of cold chicken

465
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,560
Cold spaghetti cold chinese food. I'm i'm into it. Chinese food's really good cold pizza. Yeah

466
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,960
Oh, yeah cold food appreciation

467
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,520
If you were on the road trip

468
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,840
And you had to stop at a breakfast fast food place where you stop

469
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,560
Probably mcdonald's. Yeah

470
00:35:28,620 --> 00:35:29,760
mcgrittle

471
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:36,480
Um sausage egg and cheese. Yeah. Yeah, what what about did you see they brought back the steak egg and cheese bagel?

472
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,360
I didn't yeah, it's back. It's back. I haven't had one yet. But yeah, you gotta go

473
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,200
Did you have one back in the day? I don't think I did. Oh, they're so good

474
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,680
Yeah, just steak

475
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,680
Friday, how's the steak at mcdonald's?

476
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,160
uh, I mean it is

477
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,960
Bottom tier, but it's steak and mcdonald's and it's like three bucks for one of those bagels and it's huge

478
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,080
It's not like a little portion either. Yeah, so it's it's pretty good. Okay. I'm excited that it's back

479
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,080
I just need to get there and try it

480
00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:05,680
Conversely

481
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,680
If you had to sit down

482
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,320
And go somewhere for like a nicer breakfast

483
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,800
I hop

484
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,000
Like like a chain. Yeah. No, it doesn't have to be a chain even a mom and pop or oh then probably paris right down the street

485
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,760
Okay, there we go. That's a nice one. I like paris a lot

486
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,720
Yeah, man, i've eaten at paris since I did the remodel. You gotta go. Yeah, I hear it's even better

487
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:30,400
Oh, it's really good. Okay. Yeah, I got a the coffee's pretty good

488
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,960
uh, they have a like a full bar so you can get like mimosas and

489
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:42,160
Uh bloody marys. Okay. Damn. Okay, paris. Let's go and they've been there since what the 20s or 30s something like

490
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:48,480
One of the very first things on magnolia. Yeah, I'll also say this the waiting step there is incredibly nice

491
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,840
Like they're i've never had a bad experience. Yeah, they're they're great. Shout out paris. Shout out paris

492
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,240
um

493
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:57,600
Okay

494
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,320
Oh, wait, I lost where I was turkey bacon. Oh, yeah, it's turkey bacon trash or is it delicious?

495
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,480
I can get down with turkey bacon. Okay

496
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,120
I I recently started fucking with turkey bacon

497
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,920
I still don't love it, but i'm gonna take away the trash marker on it

498
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,320
So the burger thing that i've been doing for lunch the owner is muslim

499
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,280
So he doesn't allow any pork, but he wants to have bacon cheeseburger. So we've been doing turkey bacon

500
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,360
So i've been working with turkey bacon a lot more

501
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,800
And it's actually people seem to really fucking like it and it cooks up really nice and it looks nice on a burger. So

502
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,440
Uh, i'm starting to change my tune on turkey parker's coming around a turkey. I know

503
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,840
turkey bacon guy

504
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,840
Uh, no, no

505
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:42,480
There's no reason for it. Yeah, it's just it's just turkey slices and a bacon strip

506
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,640
No, I just I don't eat that much bacon to begin with so like any time that I grab bacon

507
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,560
I'm just gonna have bacon. So that's fair. I'm not a it's funny. We started this podcast

508
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,200
I'm not a huge breakfast person personally. I tend to not really eat until like two or three but

509
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,840
Lately i've been doing a lot of overnight oats

510
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,720
Uh, oh, yeah

511
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:04,480
They have a coupon at h e b right now for like 50 cents off and so i've been getting like a couple of strawberry couple

512
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:11,040
Blueberry throw them in the fridge and then anytime i'm ready to eat in the late morning early afternoon. I've been overnight oating it

513
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:17,600
It's too hot for hot oatmeal right now that or uh, acai acai acai bowls. Oh, yeah

514
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:23,520
Acai acai. I don't know how to say it. Yeah, my daughter's obsessed with those right now mamaca over here

515
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,440
Oh, I haven't been there yet, but I need to check it out. Dude. They have

516
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,200
The best I think that little food hall is so cool. I wish I hope that the crockett waller

517
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,240
No, it's right here. Um, it's a cross avenue

518
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,920
Like where chibaha and wabi house is oh, yeah haven't been in there. It's like a little food court downstairs

519
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,560
It's been there for a few years. It's there used to be a hot chicken place. Yeah, that place was great

520
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,560
There was a like peruvian food place

521
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,400
And then there's a hotel there the hotel doesn't know

522
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,640
Yeah, they've been shut down for a while. Oh, that's just a big empty building over there. I thought we're still hoteling it there

523
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:01,920
Yeah, um, but yeah, they've gone through a few things

524
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,600
But yeah, there's that place that does bowls and then there's um a taco place

525
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,680
That i need to try. Yoga studio. Yeah, hot yoga if you want to get your hot chibaha

526
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,200
Yeah, we kind of already went over this but do you consider oatmeal peasant food?

527
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,200
Or is it the breakfast of champions?

528
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,420
I think it's probably both if we're being honest. I mean, yeah, it is very inexpensive

529
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,800
But it will it'll do its job for the rest of the day. That's true. That's true

530
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,280
That's true

531
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,360
But also I remember hearing the story about these old english ladies and they're like in the hundreds

532
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,800
And they're at what's your what's your secret and like oh we eat oatmeal every day

533
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,360
Damn, I mean, don't need to stop because I don't want to live behind

534
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,320
I gotta change. I gotta eat more bacon. Yeah

535
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:48,720
Offset it. Uh, so this question we're gonna change on this episode. We decided on the last one. Okay, so it's normally

536
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:55,600
What's your favorite john-clawed-bandam movie, but everyone goes with bloodsport. Okay, so we're just gonna change that too. What is your favorite like

537
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,240
80s 90s like action

538
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,520
movie fighting or just action in general

539
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,360
Oh, man

540
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,000
Because you're kind of a movie dude. I like movies

541
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,800
I have this really bad thing where I start a movie

542
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,200
And if I lose interest within like 10 15 minutes, I'll leave the room and then an hour later

543
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,720
I come back and i'm like, I don't know what's going on. Yeah, i've been there 80s 90s action movie

544
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,400
This is gonna stop me um

545
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:28,720
Should we come back to this we can definitely come back

546
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,960
So

547
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,840
Um, you train a little yes. Yeah. Yeah. So

548
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,480
What's the worst injury you've ever had?

549
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:43,040
What's the worst injury you've ever had whether training or fighting or even in a street fight if you've ever like or even

550
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,200
You know you you do the moshing as well. So too many moshing injuries

551
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,640
It's one of those things where it's like moshing when I was younger

552
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,880
I was like, that's the coolest thing in the world and I still think it's cool and you see someone who has like awesome style

553
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,720
Yeah, um, but I wish I had never done it because my shoulders are so screwed up

554
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,560
um

555
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,960
Remember that time I told you that once you hit a certain age your body betrays you

556
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:15,120
This is what happens. Yep, and it's it's ruthless. Um, the moshing you did when you were 14 will come back to haunt you when you're 14

557
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,280
Definitely it sucks

558
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,800
um, the worst injury i've had like the training was actually from

559
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,280
It was a switch kick

560
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:30,320
And I was switching and my left calf like snapped. I don't know what I still haven't got it looked at but it's fine now, but

561
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:36,080
Uh, it was just it was just a pop and like it was like it was like throbbing pain for like two weeks

562
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,000
And I was like, it's i'm gonna get over i'm gonna get over it. I just wear a compression sleeve now

563
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
I probably should go get a look at but

564
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,960
Doctors are expensive. They are expensive

565
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,840
And also, I don't know it'll be fine

566
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,800
Oh, all right

567
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,040
Next one. What is the best finisher?

568
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,600
like for

569
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,440
It could be MMA. It could be pro wrestling like a move. Yeah

570
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,960
I mean a switch kick. I mean we just saw in that parry fight. That was a really good finisher

571
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,800
Um, especially like an mma because I feel like a lot of people don't

572
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,600
Like uh put a lot of emphasis on the switch kick. Yeah, um

573
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,920
Good finisher uppercuts a knee up the middle

574
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:22,320
There's a lot there's a lot of an elbow from the clench a lot of a lot of good

575
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:28,160
Good finishers probably go with an elbow because I mean it's it go either way like you could potentially knock someone out

576
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:33,280
But if you're gonna cut them then it's a ref stoppage and it's like and now it's just over and you're one little

577
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,480
If you were watching usc fight night last night drew dober

578
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,120
Uh got his eye

579
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,000
Brow basically sliced right off of his face

580
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:48,160
And it was hanging over his eye and you could pretty much put an entire two or three fingers inside of that cut

581
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,280
So this is the second time you've talked about fingering a cut

582
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,960
I think that's just like

583
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,960
Me repeating what I'm doing

584
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:04,000
Me repeating what I hear on tv sometimes. You know what I mean? Like I think that's just uh, to kind of give you a

585
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,280
It might just be the fact that i'm really into it. Yeah, I don't know i'm just checking

586
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,080
I might want to stick a finger in a cut someday. I don't know

587
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,360
I don't know if I ever uh, like gashed my eyebrow open. I am staying away from you

588
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,840
Let me get in that cut boy

589
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:28,640
Uh, what's your favorite fighting arcade game or fighting video game? Uh ufc for sure

590
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,280
Um during the pandemic I played ufc for probably six hours a day

591
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:34,880
um

592
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,640
You ever play with nick?

593
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,400
I haven't played with nick. No, I don't know if i've ever seen him play a ufc game

594
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,840
He plays a lot of sports games or at least he used to yeah, I wonder how he is at the ufc games

595
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,240
Who's your go-to?

596
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:53,040
Uh, ufc before uh at that time. I think it was darren till

597
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,280
Oh also dustin Fourier. That was that was probably my go-to

598
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,360
Yeah, dustin Fourier

599
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,560
about you

600
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,320
Uh, you know, I like to my kids love to play with me a lot

601
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:11,120
And so like anytime i'm fighting with my daughter fe she always wants to be like lady fighters. So I usually go with like, um

602
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,760
andraj or rosanna muniz

603
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:15,840
Who fought last night?

604
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:22,480
um, and then uh for the dudes, I mean obviously shawn o'Malley is like the flashiest like best like

605
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,520
Fighter when it comes to like kids, you know what I mean? He's recognizable. My son

606
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,880
He's 10 is like I love shawn o'Malley, you know, so

607
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,600
um, I also like to go with uh, just like my personal

608
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,320
hometown favorite, uh

609
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,480
Kevin holland like Kevin holland a lot

610
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:48,800
Uh or um my favorite like I think ufc personality is shale sun and so i'll like do a shale sun and round or two

611
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,040
So yeah, um

612
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,040
What was I gonna say?

613
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,400
Uh, oh, um, are you old enough to like remember like street fighter mortal combat that sort of thing?

614
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,960
So I remember playing street fighter on my friend's computer. His his older brother was

615
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:09,520
I mean, i'm just bad at technology. He was insane at technology. This is like the like 2000, but he had some sort of

616
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,160
Program where he had every single game in the emulator. Yeah

617
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,360
I definitely had one of those like in the mid 2000s. Yeah, all the like super nintendo and sega games

618
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,680
Yeah, but we've always played street fighter

619
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,480
Um, mortal combat. I remember just like being in the arcade, you know

620
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,320
With like the joystick and everything and I was like, I don't know how to play this game like I

621
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,360
This is this is so i'm just gonna hit buttons. I'm gonna joystick

622
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,360
That's how I play all of those games is I just mash i'm just like I don't know what i'm doing

623
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,960
I just feel like when you play the the mortal combat one like you're playing against the cpu

624
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,640
It's like this is like this thing is piecing me up and I can't even move around. Yeah

625
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:50,160
I love that some of the mortal combat characters were just taken straight from speaking of like action movies and and 80s and stuff like

626
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,040
Uh, I guess like johnny cage are supposed to be

627
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,040
Like blood sport character type shit type shit. So

628
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,560
The reason I asked that is because I don't do you remember?

629
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:01,920
uh

630
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,920
Sega had the sega cd

631
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,960
I yeah, I never had one. I didn't know anyone who had one. That was the only thing that I got

632
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,480
Whenever I was a kid and it came with like two games

633
00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:15,020
Virtua cop and virtue a fighter

634
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,840
I remember virtue a fighter virtue a fighter. I was just thinking about the other day because uh,

635
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:26,560
How blocky it was like everything was super right angle blocky and like just thinking about that as far as like

636
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,800
in comparison to ufc 4

637
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:34,320
Like the graphics have just like changed just so much whenever it comes to video games that like

638
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:40,560
I just can't even think about putting virtue a fighter in front of any kids today and being like this used to be fun

639
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:47,920
I'm sure the controls now would be awful like not like easy to do at all. Did y'all play teken?

640
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:55,840
A little bit fucking love taking teken 3 specifically was my favorite one teken got a lot of my quarters in the arcade for sure for sure

641
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,240
the uh

642
00:46:58,240 --> 00:46:59,520
the um

643
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,520
Peter Piper pizza and alpaca

644
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,920
Got all of my my quarters

645
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,640
all of them

646
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:10,960
All right, what's the last question to do? I did all right cool

647
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,600
Uh, were you a professional wrestling fan?

648
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:19,360
I was when I was younger. I loved like wcw. Okay. I had like the game on like in 64

649
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,880
um, I didn't I was kind of like a

650
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,120
Crazy kid crazy kid so like my parents like you cannot watch this that's that's yeah

651
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,400
Kind of how my parents were too like I would sneak it at my grandparents house

652
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,240
But I was not a devout fan because my parents wouldn't let me watch it wouldn't let me

653
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,280
I wasn't even I mean I was like the kind of like you can't watch power rangers

654
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:45,760
Like you can't do anything like oh wow sort of similar. I had a my eighth birthday was like all ninja turtles and it was like

655
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:52,320
It was like my favorite birthday of all time. I had a surprise birthday party and my birthday is december 23rd

656
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,320
so it never was like

657
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:59,440
in school or with friends or anything like that, but I just remember we were living in an apartment complex and

658
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,400
My dad said he had to work for the apartment complex that day and i'm just like well

659
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,360
I was an eight-year-old whatever but really what he was doing is setting up a surprise birthday party in like the clubhouse or whatever

660
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,160
And I got like every ninja turtle like toy or whatever

661
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,080
but then what happened between eight and nine was my parents decided to

662
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:20,720
uh accept the lord as their

663
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:24,240
as their savior and then found out that uh,

664
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:25,840
uh

665
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:32,180
All of your eighth birthday presents were against the lord. Yeah, because they because they practiced meditation

666
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:38,400
And that was satanism. So all of my ninja turtles that had just gotten for my birthday

667
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,840
got taken away from me, so yeah, in the same way like

668
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,720
my dad like went full war into like

669
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:50,080
Let's burn everything that's not christian. You know, it's like music video games comic books

670
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,280
I remember whenever I was like 18 or 19. My mom brought this like

671
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,120
huge

672
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,680
Cardboard box and just sat it down and it was like all of my comic books from whenever I was a kid. I was like

673
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,640
Great. Thanks. Yeah

674
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,640
Oof, that's rough. Yeah

675
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,040
Christian fundamentalism is fun

676
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,040
Love living in texas

677
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,040
Uh

678
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,040
So this is kind of a

679
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,000
This is kind of a like a description question, but any thoughts on trash talking while fighting?

680
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,000
Um, you're you're familiar with the ufc and professional sports in general

681
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:27,360
So this was more kind of like uh off the back of like the ryan garcia dylan danis

682
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,480
Type stuff whenever it comes to like family and stuff like that

683
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,840
Do you think that there are any rules whenever it comes to trash talking or do you think that there's anything off limits when it?

684
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Comes to trash talking. Um, I mean

685
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:43,360
Because there's two schools that one is like it's a mental edge and if you allow that competitor to get in your head

686
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,360
They've already kind of won but also like

687
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,200
People with kids tend to like take that very seriously, you know

688
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:54,240
Like if you talk about wives and kids it tends to be like a sticky thing. I think

689
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,960
I don't know I could see how it's like, okay

690
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,800
We're trying to sell the fight type thing like trying to get more views yada yada yada

691
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,120
um

692
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,600
I think the thing that bothers me the most is like the lack of like respect

693
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,000
Which is like, you know

694
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,600
major cornerstone for martial arts in general, correct and so

695
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,640
That's where i'm like, I mean I get it but like I

696
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:24,240
I feel like that's just like lacking in in society in general is just respecting others

697
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:30,880
Yeah, that's the last word we actually have on this is just like sportsmanship sportsmanship slash respect whenever it comes to that sort of thing like

698
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:37,680
Uh, just like you said selling fights is one thing but then like attacking somebody's religion or their family or you know

699
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,600
That is just like

700
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:45,760
The opposite of martial arts. Yeah, and don't get me wrong. I I do get pretty hyped up when someone's like talking trash

701
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,400
Like oh he's getting him right now, you know, yeah, but then there there are moments from like, okay like

702
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,360
You don't have to do all that

703
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,120
I think trash talking like even after the fight is like you lost buddy. Yeah

704
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,360
Yeah, that's that's a whole other thing the one the one trash talk and uh

705
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:07,840
Instance i'd really liked was after the michael chandler dusting pori a fight. I don't know if you'll remember that I do. Yes, but

706
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,920
Dustin pori it kind of kind of got his ass and I was like that's it. I also don't like michael chandler at all

707
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,040
All right, we got just a couple more in the lightning round

708
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:24,640
Uh, what is your favorite movie show or anime training montage if you have one? Um

709
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,640
Um

710
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,640
Maybe one's getting me really bad

711
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,120
um

712
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,600
Uh, there's one punch man. I thought that that was pretty cool

713
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,360
I don't know if you're all familiar one punch man whenever he's like 100 push-ups 100 squats

714
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,720
Yeah, uh was a hundred meter run or 100 sit-ups every day

715
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,360
And it's like i'm gonna try to do that. That's really hard

716
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,960
Yeah, it is like i've tried to do that before where I break it up until like oh, yeah, i'm gonna do like

717
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,840
10 10 times a day and like but doing it all at once is insane

718
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,280
Yeah, the lore of hershel walker used to be like, oh, yeah

719
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,960
My dad used to be like he just does sit-ups and push-ups and i'm like

720
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,440
That body is ridiculous. I think that that's a little more than steps and push-ups

721
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:11,280
But that's the 80s there was something special going on in the sauce. It was all the trend balloon sandwiches

722
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:16,240
Yeah, we can uh combine this last the last two into one just one general question

723
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:22,560
but uh if you were to pick out a walkout song like if you're making your ufc ufc debut

724
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,440
And they're like, all right, Seth. What song are you walking out to?

725
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:30,720
That's a tough one, yeah

726
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,800
um or conversely

727
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:39,520
Uh, if you have a favorite like ufc fighter that has like a typical walkout song like pori always kind of comes out to the man

728
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:45,200
Or I love that. That's a great one. Can't steal it though. You know, sure gotta call my own thing. Um shit

729
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,760
No bbl drizzy for you like michael vendinger

730
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,720
No

731
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:54,720
That's dope though. Um

732
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,320
I'd probably go with a texas band. I don't know maybe like

733
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,960
terrified eyes by bitter end or something like that

734
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,000
baird baird i

735
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,200
I've never I have mine and i'm not going to reveal it

736
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,520
But if I were going to go with the texas band, I'd probably go with like evil ways by ironing

737
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,000
That's another which I also have tattooed on my fingers. Yeah, so like that one

738
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:22,000
One that song always gets me no matter how many times i've heard it that one. Yeah gets me fucking going

739
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:23,440
Oh

740
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:28,080
I was just confused by rose. Oh, i'm always confused by rose's choice of walkout song

741
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:32,240
it's so like calm and piano-y and just like I

742
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,760
I said I wasn't gonna reveal it if I were ever to have a pro fight

743
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:38,240
Because it's all about getting in people's head

744
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,880
I would go with boys to men. I'll make love to you. Oh

745
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:46,640
That that has been my answer for like the last 10 years that's so good like when I was

746
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,520
Training jiu-jitsu and I was like man if I ever get like uh

747
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,520
Like a fight or something i'm gonna walk out to boys to men on my club team

748
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:59,200
Which that is especially in jiu-jitsu because you're just struggle cuddles. Yeah, that's that's some psychological work. Exactly. It's like

749
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,800
Oh fuck is this dude gonna fuck me like oh god what it was what is happening? This should not be this sexy

750
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,280
I love it michael perry we talked about him. He's a bare knuckle guy now

751
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:14,320
But whenever he was in the ufc, uh, he asked them to play the halo theme music

752
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,520
And uh instead they played halo by bianca

753
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:24,960
And so like he comes walking out and he's just like what but then like he got he got super into it like started singing

754
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,760
Along yeah, he was just like fuck it. Let's do it. So

755
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,080
Yeah, I think that's great

756
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,760
uh

757
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,920
one of my favorite things to think about whenever it comes to walkout songs too would just be like

758
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,960
To play the exact same song that the person played

759
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:44,800
You know what I mean? Like if you're fighting dustin porier just be like i'm gonna play the man just like damn

760
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,680
I always thought that would be crazy. It's like two people picked the same song and the ufc was just like let's do it

761
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,680
Let's see what happens. That would be wild

762
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:57,120
Yeah, that's I mean that'd be a good psychological warfare too like this guy stole my swag. What's he doing? What the fuck?

763
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,840
No, yeah, that's a great way to get in somebody's head

764
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,960
Good call. Well, that was our lightning round. Cool. Took about 100 years

765
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,960
Took about 100 years. Ah

766
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,040
lightning ish round

767
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:14,000
All right, and then I lost my notes already. There it is. Cool. So we're just gonna kind of talk you and

768
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:15,840
your

769
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,240
Violence your history we can talk music

770
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,200
Um, so you grew up in el paso. Yep

771
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:27,440
Um, and then moved to austin near high school. Did you play sports growing up or train martial arts training growing up?

772
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,880
No, I I just played basketball and I mean rode bikes like

773
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,440
Not like bmx, but like, you know, I had like a bmx bike and we'd make like dirt ramps on the

774
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,160
on the ditches and

775
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:43,200
Make little ramps out of wood planks, you know, nothing like a ramp it. I was not like, you know, like, um

776
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Dave me or

777
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,520
But like yeah, those would be my two for growing up there and it was mostly basketball play a little baseball. Yeah

778
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,760
Um, it was just too slow for me. I had to be that's how I felt

779
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,760
I played I started with like t-ball

780
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,800
and played up through like coach pitch when I was like

781
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,960
10 or 11 and then I was just but I started playing basketball and I was like five

782
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,640
And I was just like fuck baseball too slow like soccer and basketball. It's like this is all go

783
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:12,240
I always wish I quit soccer

784
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:16,960
I I played soccer and again until I was like 10 and then I just went straight basketball after that

785
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,520
And devoted more time to that. But yeah, I

786
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,880
I I want to get back into playing soccer, but my knees are so fucked up now that I don't know if I

787
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,600
Don't know if I could handle it. Maybe you can do it. Yeah, I believe in you. I

788
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,400
Well talking about basketball. I

789
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,560
I had a question for later, but I might bring it up now since he said he played basketball grown up

790
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,520
Because I saw that interview recently where he talked about that game with nick

791
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,320
Oh, yeah, and I I want to have nick on the show

792
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:47,280
I I kind of want to tag team nick and paul together talking to ufc be fun. Uh, but

793
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,840
But yeah, would you want to do a rematch with nick one day? Sure

794
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,520
I'll do a rematch

795
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,360
I'm gonna sell it to nick too. Let's do it. But yeah, uh that caught me

796
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,600
I thought that was funny because when nick and I lived together

797
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,480
He and I were like always on the hump for like places to play basketball and going out and playing so

798
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:05,920
No, that'd be that'd be fun

799
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,160
I mean

800
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,840
I think it'd be cool to like kind of

801
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,240
Get a bunch of the dudes and just like maybe like start a team for like a local rec or something like that

802
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,520
Yeah, that'd be that would be awesome. My son plays down at the

803
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,120
Fire station community park every Tuesday. They've got like an open gym

804
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,040
And if you remember you can just go up there and play with people nice. So that sounds awesome

805
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,920
I'm just letting you guys know i'm a really good basketball player. So

806
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,280
Let's go. I'm as good as uh, I am a rapper

807
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,600
You and you proved your rap skills to me last night. Yeah, so

808
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:35,680
oh

809
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,560
Are we gonna now we're good. All right, cool. Um

810
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,520
awesome, so

811
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:47,600
When did see basketball riding bikes and stuff? When did you get into like martial arts training?

812
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,000
I didn't start training until I was 28. So about six years ago

813
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:58,800
But I had been into the ufc since I was about 15 or 16. Maybe I saw anderson silva fight

814
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:05,520
And I was on spike tv. Yes, and I was just like what is this? This is insane and

815
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:12,640
Anderson silva obviously at the go probably yeah. Um, and then from there we would just kind of

816
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,160
I'd watch on spike tv and then I got a little to go to buffalo wild wings and

817
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,720
hell, yes have wings with the boys and

818
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,480
It was it was great and then I kind of fell off for a while and then

819
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:29,280
I think it was kind of like when connor started having his rise like oh this is like getting really cool again. Yeah

820
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:35,680
Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I was around 30 when I started doing jiu-jitsu. Um, like

821
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,480
20 to 30

822
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,600
Um, so I feel that hell. Yeah. Hell. Yeah. Hell. Yeah. Um

823
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,600
cool, so

824
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,760
With training have you done

825
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,560
Just muay thai or have you done other stuff besides muay thai? I've done boxing

826
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,640
some jiu-jitsu

827
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,640
some wrestling

828
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:02,560
Unfortunately, I just I started way too late for for wrestling. So the couple times I went I was like, oh this is so brutal

829
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,840
It sucks so bad. It's so bad. You can't do it. Don't have the

830
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,280
I don't even know the word the youthfulness to deal at this point. I yeah my

831
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,280
My body doesn't bend that way. No

832
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,920
Getting slammed you're like, oh my god

833
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,480
I i'm really just like

834
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,160
I was talking about in our last episode, but I really wish that in high school

835
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,480
I would have done wrestling but I was so like self-conscious because like a chubby like awkward kid

836
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,200
That I did not want to put that singlet on I mean

837
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:35,040
Like yeah, hell no. Yeah, and I was also like really getting into like

838
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,360
Black flag and like punk rock and stuff like that. I'm not a fan of punk rock

839
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,360
And I'm not gonna put that fucking singlet on not nobody's gonna see my balls in that

840
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:48,640
little baby balls, but but yeah like that that was like the big thing because

841
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,240
There were girls that wrestled at my high school and stuff and I was like

842
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,760
Man, fuck that but I wish I would have done that especially like

843
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,320
Starting training jiu-jitsu with a bunch of wrestling guys in my late 20s early 30s

844
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,640
I was like fuck I would have been so much better if I would have even just like one year of wrestling would have

845
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,840
Been amazing. That's I mean, that's the reason why I'm so glad I got to do that

846
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,080
It's been amazing. That's I mean, that's the reason why I stopped doing jiu-jitsu is going with like the young wrestling guys

847
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:18,400
They're fucking maniacs. I mean they're they're built completely different than I am and it's like I can't hang with you guys

848
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,880
Like yeah, also i'm gonna get hurt and i'm a hobbyist like exactly. Yeah

849
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:28,080
Um, where did you where'd you start training like muay thai and my first uh,

850
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,720
Time training was at looter djj

851
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,280
Um, it was just like right down the street from I was living and I was like I just I just want to get into this

852
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,640
and um, I wanted to go for muay thai and

853
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,800
It was funny because I was like when I was like, yeah, I want to do muay thai. I want to do muay thai

854
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:49,200
And I can't remember Travis's wife's name. She's like, oh, but that's awesome. But we're a djj school and I was like

855
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,640
That's cool. You're right here and i'm right there. So let's do muay thai

856
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,600
And so I was there for not very long because I was like I don't

857
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,320
This is not for me type thing. Yeah

858
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:04,640
But yeah, hell yeah. Um, and are you still training right now or yeah, I train still where you training at now

859
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:09,120
I train at a gym, um called new world combat. Okay, i've heard of that. It's a

860
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,000
Down university afk

861
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:16,400
It's uh, primarily just a a muay thai school. He also offers um

862
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,420
It's a close quarter combat. It's like a filipino

863
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,840
Weapon style martial art, which is it's cool

864
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,760
I I just have no interest in learning how to use weapons

865
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,680
Um, but he's very knowledgeable in that area as well. Okay, awesome

866
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:36,720
um, yeah, because I know a few years back you and I were messaging on instagram about like

867
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,420
Muay thai and bjj and I was asking for recommendations

868
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:46,080
And I live right behind where south side muay thai was yeah, I went and took a class there in 2020

869
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,200
I realized muay thai is not for me. Yeah, um

870
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,120
Also, like the way that they throw punches it fuck my shoulders up

871
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:58,240
Like the way you like twist when you throw the punch my shoulders were sore for days after my first class

872
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:04,480
Yeah, just from like injuries and shit from the past. But yeah, I realized like I don't fucking like getting punched

873
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:09,360
I don't like getting kicked. So it was like i'm gonna i'm gonna stick to jujitsu. Yeah

874
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,080
um, but yeah, i've got a lot of friends who after

875
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,800
it changed from

876
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,840
Uh south side muay thai to fray mma

877
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:23,200
I had a bunch of friends who trained there and then I know that he just recently moved

878
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,040
He got a new spot like south of 20. Uh, it's just 10th planet for worth now

879
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:33,360
Okay, is that where you're going? No, no, i'm not training right now. I don't have the time or resources to train currently

880
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:41,520
um, but I last time I trained jujitsu I was training at frequency on 8th avenue across from siesta and that place was awesome

881
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:46,480
Yeah, i've heard of frequency. Yeah, I if you're looking for a good jujitsu school, it's really good. Um

882
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:52,880
Kyle who runs it he's got a black belt. He also has like a kinesiology background like degree

883
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,640
So everything he does is like science-based and it's very methodical

884
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,640
Um, and it's really cool because most times you go to like movie tie or

885
01:03:01,180 --> 01:03:04,000
bjj mma gems everybody's got cauliflower ears

886
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,480
Nobody who trains or has cauliflower really kyle who's been doing it for like 15 years

887
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:14,480
Ears look completely normal. He has won a bunch of stuff because he's so methodical about what he does

888
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,120
That injuries are pretty rare. Okay, and it's it's a really cool

889
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:25,040
Uh place to train that's pretty crazy dude, because everyone I know who does jujitsu is like has some sort of exactly

890
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:30,000
Yeah, no, he is like he's been doing it forever and you would never tell okay

891
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,560
But yeah, they're they're a really cool spot. Does he wear like the the wrestling? That's crazy. Yeah

892
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:39,040
Damn. Yeah, it's uh, it's impressive because again, it's just very methodical and like hey

893
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:44,400
We're gonna go slow even in his like fights and stuff. He kind of goes almost in slow motion to submit people

894
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,400
It's wild to watch. Okay. Yeah

895
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,800
I think it's like a really cool spot

896
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,520
Yeah, it's like a really cool spot

897
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,200
Cool, uh

898
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:04,720
Have you done any like movie tie fights or anything or just like sparring just just just sparring place sparring

899
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:10,480
I'm hobbyist. Yeah, I got in the game way too late. Yeah obviously like the

900
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:10,640
I'm a very big fan of like the

901
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:20,960
I'm a very big fan of like the

902
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,960
Oh yeah, and I'm a very big fan of that

903
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:29,200
Did you ever get into any fights at hardcore shows a couple fights? Yeah. Yeah. I mean I

904
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,240
They were not pretty

905
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:37,680
Yeah, you know just like getting in a squabble with someone like a mosh beef or something or

906
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,880
or the headlining band with Darkest Hour.

907
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,880
But Between the Buried and Me played like second

908
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:45,960
and there was some pit beef

909
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,040
and a dude plucked a dude's eyeball out of his head.

910
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,320
I was 16 years old watching these,

911
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,040
in my mind grown men, they're all probably like 24, 25,

912
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,160
beat the shit out of each other

913
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,440
and this dude's just eye just out of the socket.

914
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,000
That was probably the gnarliest.

915
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,680
I saw a lot of violent acts,

916
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,040
but that was definitely the gnarliest one.

917
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,720
I think the gnarliest, I mean, that's insane.

918
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,880
This one does not, close to that.

919
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,640
The gnarliest one I saw was, funny enough,

920
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,680
it was at a seven second show.

921
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,360
And I think it was like 18 or 19.

922
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,160
It was at Red 7 and Balaram was talking

923
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,620
with some dudes outside.

924
01:05:21,620 --> 01:05:23,000
And if y'all don't know who Balaram is,

925
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,120
he's a Texas legend, great guy.

926
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,960
Stage dive yoga, shout out.

927
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,040
But he was talking to another guy about Beyond

928
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,320
and he says, they were talking about Beyond

929
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,160
and some frat dudes walked by

930
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,800
and he gets in Jared's face and he goes,

931
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,760
Beyond, Beyond.

932
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,000
And Jared just goes, what?

933
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,000
And then the guy who's with him just pops him

934
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,800
and it turns into this giant fight and they're-

935
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,640
Nobody fucks with Balaram.

936
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:48,760
No, no.

937
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,440
And they're fighting up against Red 7

938
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,640
and the owner, one of the frat guys falls

939
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,760
and he just soccer kicks him straight in the head.

940
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,560
And it sounded like when you kick a ball that's deflated.

941
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,040
Oh, oh.

942
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,760
And I was like, that guy just died.

943
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,360
Like it's over, he's like not moving,

944
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,960
he's pressed up against the, like kind of slumped

945
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,520
and I was like, this, it's over.

946
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,600
Damn, that's brutal.

947
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,240
I had a buddy do that at another Red Blood Club show.

948
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,920
We were watching the Holy Mountain in like 2006.

949
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,080
This dude jumped one of my friends,

950
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,880
we started beating the shit out of him.

951
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,040
His friends came up and they were so drunk

952
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,960
that when they swung they missed and the dude fell

953
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,720
and my friend just kicked him like just straight up

954
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,640
a soccer kick in the head, left Vans waffle print

955
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,280
like on his forehead.

956
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,040
The dude was like probably late 40s,

957
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,800
like greaser, like punk dude and just, yeah,

958
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:42,640
it was gnarly.

959
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:43,480
Life changed forever.

960
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,560
Yeah, it was fucking gnarly.

961
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,040
But yeah, those are brutal.

962
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:53,880
I was, we were playing Crown and Harp before it closed.

963
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:58,520
It was me, Jordan and another DJ who I will not name

964
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,920
as he's a weirdo but.

965
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:01,760
Name names.

966
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:03,680
Kidding.

967
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,160
Not worth it.

968
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,760
But there was some like scuttle outside

969
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,040
and we were kind of like loading and it was,

970
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,440
it's always somebody that's not involved in the show,

971
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,920
obviously that's walking by but somebody was walking by

972
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,040
and started talking shit

973
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,320
and these other guys started talking shit

974
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:25,320
and Jordan of course loves to put himself in anything

975
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:29,880
but this guy I guess like made a motion

976
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,920
or even said that he had a gun in his backpack or whatever

977
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,560
and one of these, one of the guys that was with us

978
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,760
had like ripped his backpack off of him, dumped it out

979
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:38,600
and there was no gun in there

980
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:39,960
and as soon as they found out there was no gun,

981
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:40,800
there was like three or four of them.

982
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:41,640
Just took the shit out of him.

983
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:42,480
Yeah, just.

984
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:43,320
Fuck yeah.

985
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,080
Just soccer kicked him in his head because it was like,

986
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:46,040
you know, you started the shit

987
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,640
and then you threatened us with a gun and then.

988
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,360
You never forget when you see somebody get kicked

989
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,320
in the head and they're on the ground.

990
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:52,280
That sticks with you.

991
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,080
Yeah, that was me.

992
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,800
I got kicked in the head.

993
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,240
Remember, chilies?

994
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,080
Oh yeah.

995
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,000
I got my eyebrow kicked off my head.

996
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,160
Wait, you say it chilies?

997
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,000
Oh, I gotta hear this story.

998
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,520
By a basketball team.

999
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:05,360
Oh no.

1000
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,840
Yeah, I was with a friend and just me and him and our wives

1001
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:14,280
and we got sat next to like 30 people from like UTA basketball

1002
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,480
and one of them had like done something to like

1003
01:08:17,480 --> 01:08:19,720
kind of like talk over my wife

1004
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,360
but like his crotch was in her face

1005
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,760
and she kind of like pushed him off of her

1006
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,560
and it was just, I saw red and forgot

1007
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,440
that they were with like 30 people.

1008
01:08:28,440 --> 01:08:30,640
And so like I got that dude

1009
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,400
and then like I just felt my entire body

1010
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,280
like get lifted off the ground, put back

1011
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,000
and just got kicked in the head multiple times.

1012
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,760
Just an eyebrow just missing, just like a whole.

1013
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:41,840
Oh yeah.

1014
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,240
I've never been kicked in the head.

1015
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:44,080
It's not good.

1016
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,040
I did, we played a show at Ghost House

1017
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,360
in Lincoln, Nebraska in like 2008

1018
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,320
and I drank a whole bottle of whiskey

1019
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:52,720
and I passed out in the backyard

1020
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,840
and I woke up to two dudes

1021
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,680
just literally kicking the shit out of me.

1022
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:56,520
What the fuck?

1023
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,120
Yeah, they played in one of the other bands

1024
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,120
that was staying at the house

1025
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,040
and I guess I talked some shit to them

1026
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,320
as I do when I drink

1027
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,240
and they were also mad because they didn't play the show.

1028
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,400
Like their singer had to fly out for a family emergency

1029
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,520
so they didn't play, they were just there

1030
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,920
and they're also like bitter because they,

1031
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,800
like it was their job and their $4,000 in debt

1032
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,040
to their record label and they're pissed about it.

1033
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:19,960
So they took it out on me

1034
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,680
cause I like got drunk and talked shit

1035
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,320
and then when I passed out they just literally,

1036
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:24,480
like I was just covered in bruises

1037
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:25,600
the rest of the tour.

1038
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,440
Cowards.

1039
01:09:26,440 --> 01:09:28,320
Yeah, this is pre-human era.

1040
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,280
So yeah, I think 2008, but yeah,

1041
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,600
it was like a screamo band that I played in.

1042
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,080
Yeah, it was, and they were like a pop punk band.

1043
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:36,800
That's the funniest part is they were like,

1044
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,120
they sounded like a fat records era against me.

1045
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:40,960
Oh man.

1046
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,920
You guys dropped by Yellow Card?

1047
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:43,800
Let's find them dude.

1048
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,080
Yeah, they're probably in Richmond, Virginia

1049
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,720
somewhere still.

1050
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,000
If you hear this, I'm gonna find you.

1051
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:49,840
Yeah.

1052
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,360
We're coming for you pop punk band.

1053
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,440
The Riot Before was what they were called.

1054
01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:54,280
Okay.

1055
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,480
Yeah, they were, yeah, exactly.

1056
01:09:58,440 --> 01:10:00,120
Cool, well I guess, you know,

1057
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,400
we can kind of jump into music.

1058
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,080
So like I said, at the beginning,

1059
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:04,680
I met you when you were playing in Losing Grip.

1060
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,000
Did you play in other bands before Losing Grip?

1061
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,520
Cody and I had another band before

1062
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,800
that was like this like weird, like slam death metal band.

1063
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:13,640
Hell yeah.

1064
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,520
That was really bad.

1065
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,520
It was a lot of fun, but I mean like the whole thing was like

1066
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,640
we, our drummer, his family had like a little bit of land

1067
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,120
with this little shack.

1068
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,200
And so we could go out there and just play for hours.

1069
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,160
That's awesome.

1070
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,360
It's psychosomatic, like screaming in this mic

1071
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,880
for like literally four hours.

1072
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,320
And it was, I mean, it was a lot of fun.

1073
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,640
It's just, you know, nothing ever transpired.

1074
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,360
And then after that, we kind of started hearing

1075
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:38,520
about shows happening in Austin.

1076
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:39,760
Cause we both lived on the outskirts.

1077
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,880
He lived in a town called Liberty Hill.

1078
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,400
And I lived in a town called Georgetown.

1079
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,960
And we would just kind of start going out to shows

1080
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,760
out in the city and started meeting people.

1081
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,520
And they're like, oh no, you should listen to this stuff

1082
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:52,840
or this stuff.

1083
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,840
And that's when we met Rob, shout out Rob,

1084
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,600
and then Ruben Galván, shout out Ruben.

1085
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,080
And we just kind of started writing music

1086
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:05,600
that we were like finding on,

1087
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,880
we found about the Texas hardcore board.

1088
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:08,720
Oh yeah.

1089
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,360
Oh man. I spent so much time on that.

1090
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,160
So much time, too scared to post

1091
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:13,640
because it was a little hopeless.

1092
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:18,640
Yo, I got a job in 2008, no 2009.

1093
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,720
I worked at Virgin mega store and it closed down.

1094
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:25,480
And then I got this job doing data entry and like Chris,

1095
01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:26,320
do you know Chris Mason?

1096
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,600
Yeah, Chris Mason worked there and he got me the job there.

1097
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:29,800
And it was just a bunch of dudes

1098
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,120
from the Dallas hardcore board.

1099
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,360
And I became the number one poster on there

1100
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:35,200
while I worked at that job

1101
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,960
because I just fucked around at the job all day.

1102
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:37,800
Nice.

1103
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:38,840
I just posted on Dallas hardcore

1104
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,400
and then Texas hardcore get on there.

1105
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,000
And I just like back up,

1106
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,560
like whatever Riley or Chris were saying.

1107
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,560
And I'd just be like getting to arguments with people

1108
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,360
on there, just backing up my friends.

1109
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:48,200
Yeah.

1110
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,800
And I was terrified of everyone from Houston

1111
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:50,640
that was on that board.

1112
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:51,480
Oh dude, yeah.

1113
01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:52,320
I mean, that was kind of a,

1114
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:53,440
I mean, at the time it was terrifying

1115
01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:54,280
because I was a kid,

1116
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,840
but like all those guys and you see them in person,

1117
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,040
it was like, oh, you're actually like a grown man.

1118
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,400
GMC, shut up.

1119
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,080
Shout out, dude.

1120
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,120
I was so scared of everyone from Houston,

1121
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,320
like specifically Daniel Austin and Ryan Taylor,

1122
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,200
like those dudes posting on there.

1123
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,120
And then when I met Ryan Taylor,

1124
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,760
like one of the best dudes ever.

1125
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:15,800
Very nice guy.

1126
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,920
But 10 crowns scared the shit out of me.

1127
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,120
Like I was so scared the first time I saw that band.

1128
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,520
And then like the Will to Live dudes and Pride Kills.

1129
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:25,360
Pride Kills was one that scared me.

1130
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,520
Oh, Pride Kills was terrifying.

1131
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,480
Gabe Wells, shout out Gabe Wells.

1132
01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:31,760
That man terrified him, terrified me.

1133
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,040
To this day, I'm still scared of that guy.

1134
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:33,880
He's the best.

1135
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,240
Yeah, he's a sweet dude, but I like,

1136
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,920
so scared, such a terrifying stage presence.

1137
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,080
Yeah, not wearing shoes, just absolute wild man.

1138
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,440
Yo, God.

1139
01:12:44,440 --> 01:12:49,440
So this is what, like mid 2000s, like 2006?

1140
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,560
I saw Pride Kills in 2007.

1141
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,640
Yeah, it was the way it is fast at Red 7.

1142
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,080
What was the Austin hardcore scene like back then?

1143
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,440
Because like obviously there was Iron Age,

1144
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:03,920
like that was when Iron Age was like really starting

1145
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,160
to take off.

1146
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,080
In that era, the only times I really went to Austin,

1147
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,120
I went for Chaos and Teos.

1148
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,720
I was at that Gorilla Biscuit show in 2006.

1149
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:17,920
But I never really had a whole lot of luck.

1150
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,280
Like it was very hit or miss.

1151
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,280
Like up here in DFW, it seemed like there were shows

1152
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,160
happening four nights a week.

1153
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,280
And every time I went to Austin,

1154
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,800
it was like you had to know somebody,

1155
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,160
know what was going on.

1156
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:29,880
The turnout wasn't always great.

1157
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,680
Sometimes it was awesome, but sometimes it was.

1158
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,920
So Austin, like from my experience,

1159
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,760
I was a younger kid, so I was just like popping in

1160
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,520
and not knowing anybody besides like the two,

1161
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,320
three people that I came with.

1162
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,000
But it was people I would interact with,

1163
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,720
mostly from San Antonio.

1164
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,560
And they would come up for the show if it was happening

1165
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,120
or from Houston.

1166
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,320
But a lot of the time we were coming up here for shows

1167
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:49,840
or going to San Antonio for shows.

1168
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,160
San Antonio was wild.

1169
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,440
I hear it's still really wild.

1170
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:54,200
It's still very wild.

1171
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,280
First time I got a gun pulled on me was in San Antonio.

1172
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:57,480
Sounds about right.

1173
01:13:57,480 --> 01:13:58,640
Rock bottom tattoo bar.

1174
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,680
Outside of that, I was loading up after a show in 2007.

1175
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,800
And some dudes just rolled up and pulled a gun on me

1176
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,040
and asked what the fuck I was doing there.

1177
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,360
And I was like, ugh.

1178
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:08,200
Rocking man.

1179
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:10,320
Trying to get the fuck out of here.

1180
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:11,160
They're like, yeah, good.

1181
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:12,000
Go on.

1182
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,320
All right, sorry.

1183
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,160
Sorry for playing music.

1184
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,240
San Antonio's still like that.

1185
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,360
When Fugitive played down there in,

1186
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,480
last time we played there, I can't remember what that was.

1187
01:14:23,480 --> 01:14:26,080
I think it was March, maybe April.

1188
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,880
There was like five or six fights that started

1189
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,760
outside of the venue in the street with like 30 people.

1190
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:33,580
Damn.

1191
01:14:33,580 --> 01:14:34,420
San Antonio goes hard.

1192
01:14:34,420 --> 01:14:35,260
Things haven't changed.

1193
01:14:35,260 --> 01:14:36,680
Is that where Mexican Coke's from, those boys?

1194
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:37,520
They're from Houston.

1195
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:38,800
Houston, that's right.

1196
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,000
Those dudes are wild too.

1197
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,360
They are some wild young ones.

1198
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,080
Current wild man.

1199
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:45,160
So.

1200
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaking of guns.

1201
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,400
So did Losing Grip, you were the front man of Losing Grip.

1202
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,360
Have you ever played an instrument in a band?

1203
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,280
I have not played in a band, but I do play instruments.

1204
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,120
Okay.

1205
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:56,940
Yeah.

1206
01:14:56,940 --> 01:14:57,780
Because yeah, I've always seen you as a front man.

1207
01:14:57,780 --> 01:14:58,620
Yeah.

1208
01:14:58,620 --> 01:15:01,360
I'm not, I love playing instruments.

1209
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,080
I'm just not good enough to do it.

1210
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:04,640
Me too.

1211
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:05,720
Yeah, same.

1212
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,080
I mean, human error, I just played the open E string

1213
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:09,440
on every song.

1214
01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:10,280
That's not true.

1215
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,380
I played a few things, but mostly opening.

1216
01:15:12,380 --> 01:15:15,080
Chad would always give me a hard time about that.

1217
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:15,920
Shout out Chad.

1218
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:16,840
Yeah, shout out Chad.

1219
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,160
Man, Frozen Soul on tour right now.

1220
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,000
Yeah.

1221
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,960
They're headlining this tour, right?

1222
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,200
Yeah, that's their headliner.

1223
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:24,280
Awesome.

1224
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,380
Go see them if you're out there.

1225
01:15:26,380 --> 01:15:27,800
Yeah, absolutely.

1226
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:31,560
Cool, so after Losing Grip,

1227
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,000
when did you guys end Losing Grip?

1228
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,000
Losing Grip was only a band for like two years.

1229
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:36,840
Yeah.

1230
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,160
It started, I think beginning of two,

1231
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,440
maybe end of 2008.

1232
01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:44,120
I want to say it ended in like 2010 or 2011.

1233
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:44,960
Yeah.

1234
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,720
Because I had started moving around for work around 2010.

1235
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:49,800
So I think it was.

1236
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:50,680
Okay.

1237
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,520
Yeah, because I saw you guys a handful of times

1238
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,480
and it was always awesome.

1239
01:15:53,480 --> 01:15:55,920
Like just fucking heavy and mean.

1240
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:56,960
I love that shit.

1241
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,000
It was fun.

1242
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,000
Yeah, it was awesome.

1243
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,120
What did you do after Losing Grip musically?

1244
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,020
I didn't play anything until Scourge.

1245
01:16:04,020 --> 01:16:04,860
Oh really?

1246
01:16:04,860 --> 01:16:07,140
So it was about four years, I guess,

1247
01:16:07,140 --> 01:16:10,520
of no music and just bouncing around working and whatnot.

1248
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:11,360
Cool.

1249
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:15,400
So Scourge is mostly Houston dudes, right?

1250
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:16,240
It's all Houston.

1251
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,160
I'm the odd man out.

1252
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,360
How did that happen?

1253
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,720
So I was living in Kansas City at the time

1254
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,260
and I had met this guy named Esteban from Houston

1255
01:16:24,260 --> 01:16:27,680
and it all happened because I was wearing a terror hoodie

1256
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,120
and he was like, yo, I like that band, what's up?

1257
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:32,320
And so we started talking and he's like,

1258
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:33,340
oh, I'm from Houston.

1259
01:16:33,340 --> 01:16:34,400
He's a little bit younger than me

1260
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,560
so it was a little bit of a different generation.

1261
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,780
So I didn't really ever see him around

1262
01:16:39,780 --> 01:16:42,520
but I had met Jacob who was in,

1263
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,280
he's in Narrowhead, he's in Scourge,

1264
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,200
but at the time I met him at a house show in 2000,

1265
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,820
I think it was 2010.

1266
01:16:48,820 --> 01:16:51,120
It was a random house show in Mansfield.

1267
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:51,960
Oh shit.

1268
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,200
Yeah, it was really random.

1269
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,880
And his band was playing there called In Bane

1270
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,920
and I met him, I met Adam Kerner from Houston

1271
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,880
and so fast forward, I met Esteban.

1272
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,000
He's like, oh, we're starting this band

1273
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,000
that sounds like Confusion.

1274
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,560
Would you, do you like that band?

1275
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,560
He would, and she was like, oh yeah, that sounds great

1276
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,840
and didn't even know who I was getting involved with

1277
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,080
until I got down to record the demo.

1278
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:15,920
Really?

1279
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,000
And it was Jacob, it was Carson,

1280
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,560
I was like, oh, this is crazy.

1281
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,720
Yeah, I remember when that demo came out listening to it,

1282
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:25,720
I was like, oh fuck, it sounded like early obituary.

1283
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,000
Like your vocals on it,

1284
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,280
because again, I was used to losing grip

1285
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,160
and so I was just like, whoa,

1286
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,160
because that guttural, it was so sick.

1287
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:37,720
It hurt at that time.

1288
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,840
Yeah, I believe that, I definitely believe that,

1289
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,840
but no, Scourge is fucking awesome.

1290
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,040
Thank you.

1291
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,160
So that's a good jumping off point

1292
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,040
to kind of tie into my next question.

1293
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,640
Okay.

1294
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,520
So Scourge has kind of like,

1295
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,440
you've toured a lot with Scourge.

1296
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:56,280
We've done, yeah.

1297
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:57,120
You've done, you asked, you've done,

1298
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:58,200
have you done a couple European tours?

1299
01:17:58,200 --> 01:17:59,040
We've done one year.

1300
01:17:59,040 --> 01:17:59,880
One, okay.

1301
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:04,400
So I wanted to ask, like when you're on tour,

1302
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,160
what is your go-to breakfast in the US

1303
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,120
and what's your go-to breakfast like in Europe?

1304
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,760
Okay, Europe, pretty much,

1305
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:14,720
like when you get to the UK,

1306
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,440
you have English breakfast, which I love.

1307
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:17,600
I love the baked beans.

1308
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:18,440
Yeah.

1309
01:18:18,440 --> 01:18:19,280
I love it.

1310
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:20,100
They're great.

1311
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:21,260
I mean, I don't have it here,

1312
01:18:21,260 --> 01:18:22,720
but it's like a novelty when you're over there,

1313
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,760
but when we're like, even in your mainland,

1314
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,760
like the breakfast kind of sucks.

1315
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:29,600
Yeah.

1316
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:30,440
That's my experience.

1317
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:33,040
It's like, I don't know, like no, no offense,

1318
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,120
but like German continental breakfast

1319
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:36,480
was like one of the most bland things

1320
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:37,320
we've ever had in our life.

1321
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,160
Really? That's a bummer.

1322
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,680
It might have been just because of our experience.

1323
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,320
For what, again, it was a very DIY tour.

1324
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,760
So everyone who was like getting us,

1325
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:44,640
I was very appreciative.

1326
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,360
Thank you so much for the breakfast,

1327
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,280
but it was like vegan deli meat.

1328
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,680
That's, that's what I hear is like all my friends

1329
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,680
who are vegan love touring Europe

1330
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,880
because everyone just puts out a huge vegan spread for them.

1331
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:57,880
It was very nice.

1332
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:58,720
Yeah.

1333
01:18:58,720 --> 01:18:59,560
I mean, I just wake up.

1334
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:00,400
I don't want.

1335
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,760
You want that British like blood pudding,

1336
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:03,600
baked beans.

1337
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,800
Eggs and bacon and all that stuff.

1338
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:07,880
I mean, the cool thing though,

1339
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:09,280
is you have really good pastries.

1340
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,680
So there is, you know, some give and take in there,

1341
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,760
but you can only have so many pastries every morning.

1342
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:15,600
True.

1343
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:16,920
Especially when you're on tour.

1344
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:17,760
Yeah.

1345
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:18,600
Oh.

1346
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,960
So like in the U.S. when you're touring,

1347
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,160
what's like your go-to?

1348
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,320
I mean, U.S. it's a totally different ball game

1349
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:26,880
because you know, you've done plenty of tours,

1350
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,360
you kind of party and then you wake up and you're like,

1351
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:30,200
oh, it's time to go.

1352
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,320
I don't, I'm just dying in the van for the next three hours

1353
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:33,560
until we stop at a gas station.

1354
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:34,400
Yeah.

1355
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,960
Or, you know, if you're lucky, it's like, oh man,

1356
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,000
we might hit the McDonald's drive through or something

1357
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,320
or Taco Bell drive through.

1358
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:41,160
Yeah.

1359
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:42,000
So, okay.

1360
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:42,840
Awesome.

1361
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:43,680
Yeah.

1362
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:44,520
I guess I'd go with Clif bars.

1363
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,720
That'd be the breakfast.

1364
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:47,960
I used to just take,

1365
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,360
I would just buy a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter

1366
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:51,200
and take it with me.

1367
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,040
Yeah, clutch.

1368
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,320
And just, and, or if I was really broke, like,

1369
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,400
I definitely left for tour with like $1

1370
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:58,840
in my bank account one time.

1371
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,960
And I just got a,

1372
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,440
I had a big bag of corn tortillas

1373
01:20:04,440 --> 01:20:07,000
because it was like a buck 50 for like 50 of them

1374
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,320
and a jar of like store brand peanut butter.

1375
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:10,560
And that's what I lived on.

1376
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,880
And those people would like feed me at the houses and stuff.

1377
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,880
Definitely left every tour with a jar of chip peanut butter.

1378
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:16,720
Yeah.

1379
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:17,560
That is.

1380
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:18,400
And a spoon.

1381
01:20:19,480 --> 01:20:21,560
It's easy, it's cheap, saves you money.

1382
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:22,400
Oh yeah.

1383
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:27,160
Do you have like a favorite breakfast you've had on tour,

1384
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:28,920
like that really stuck out,

1385
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,440
like whether it was like staying somewhere

1386
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:31,640
and somebody made you breakfast

1387
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,280
or there was a restaurant that they took you to,

1388
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:34,360
there's like a locals only.

1389
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:35,960
There is one.

1390
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,640
And okay, so we were in Boise, Idaho.

1391
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:39,480
Oh, shoot.

1392
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:40,880
And we were staying at this guy's house.

1393
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,600
He, very nice guy, he put us up,

1394
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,720
very hospitable, kind of strange.

1395
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:46,920
It's Boise, Idaho.

1396
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,320
I imagine everybody's actually just a potato up there.

1397
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:50,160
Oh yeah.

1398
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:51,840
I mean, they're all great, great people.

1399
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,280
But this experience was in particular,

1400
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,600
I was like, I never want this experience again.

1401
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,680
But we get to his house and he has like all these goats

1402
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:58,520
and it was like, cool.

1403
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,600
And I was like, why do you have all these goats, man?

1404
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,920
And he's like, he has like this cool like barn garage thing

1405
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,440
and he's like running up and down it holding a goat.

1406
01:21:08,440 --> 01:21:10,280
And I was like, what is going on here?

1407
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,760
And like also it's like, we just played the show.

1408
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:14,920
We were all tired.

1409
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,160
Like we did like a eight hour drive and we're like,

1410
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,720
yeah, cool goats, man, I'm gonna go to sleep.

1411
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,720
And so we go back inside and he's like showing us,

1412
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,280
and he's like a really nice house, like a punk dude.

1413
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,600
And we're like, your house is like really fucking nice.

1414
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,640
He has like this room that's specifically

1415
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,600
dedicated to his snowboards.

1416
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:32,440
Oh, okay.

1417
01:21:32,440 --> 01:21:34,320
And I was like, that's crazy.

1418
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:35,720
And then, so we wake up the next morning

1419
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,480
and he's making breakfast, like, oh, this guy's dope.

1420
01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:40,040
Like there's like this whole spread of breakfast and stuff

1421
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,480
and I'm in there and I'm like, hey, breakfast's ready.

1422
01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:43,680
And everyone's just kind of like,

1423
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,160
oh man, like you go enjoy it.

1424
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:46,400
And I was like, okay, cool.

1425
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,000
So I'm going there, I'm eating it up, I'm eating it up

1426
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,280
and I'm just kind of going in.

1427
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,120
And I'm like, this is really fucking good.

1428
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,720
And so no one else eats, I'm the only one eating.

1429
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,880
And so I'm like, okay, well, I guess we'll leave.

1430
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,600
And I get in the van, they're all just kind of like,

1431
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,560
and I was like, dude, why is everyone being funny?

1432
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,000
He's like, you ate dumpster food.

1433
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,320
Like this dude like went and like dumpster dove

1434
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:11,040
got all of this food that was fucked up.

1435
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,920
And it was like eggs and like bread and fruit.

1436
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,200
Crusty punk freegin'.

1437
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:18,040
Oh man.

1438
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:19,240
And then like the next day my stomach

1439
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,000
is just completely torn up.

1440
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,400
Damn, yeah, that's awful.

1441
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:24,800
And that was always my favorite thing

1442
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:26,440
whenever like bands would stay over

1443
01:22:26,440 --> 01:22:29,500
was either cooking for them.

1444
01:22:29,500 --> 01:22:31,680
Because again, like when I'd go,

1445
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,080
I'd always like stay with somebody

1446
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,360
that had stayed with us before.

1447
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,160
But I always enjoyed like either cooking for them

1448
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:38,680
or taking them to the local spot

1449
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:40,980
and showing them like what the cool stuff was.

1450
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,560
Actually, I remember King Tut right here,

1451
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,480
which is actually moving after like 20 something years

1452
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:49,720
or 30 years.

1453
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,240
I took full of hell there when they stayed with me

1454
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:53,960
when I lived on Sixth Avenue.

1455
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,440
And there's a dude who ate at Spiral,

1456
01:22:56,440 --> 01:22:58,160
who's awesome, his name's Craig.

1457
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,560
He bought our meal for us.

1458
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,600
And actually, like within the last year,

1459
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,520
Dylan and I were talking and he was like,

1460
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:05,960
oh man, I'll never forget that time.

1461
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:06,800
Like you took us out to eat

1462
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,440
and some dude like bought our food for us.

1463
01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:12,400
And back then it was like $5 a person.

1464
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,920
But for us, they're on tour.

1465
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,440
And they were not, they were playing

1466
01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:18,560
to like 20 people in 1919.

1467
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,840
And this random dude just bought all the food.

1468
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:21,680
Fucking angel.

1469
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,360
Yeah, it was like, stuff like that is always cool.

1470
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,280
I was like showing people around

1471
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,320
and taking them or cooking for them.

1472
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,560
Yeah.

1473
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,560
Whenever Distort was in town,

1474
01:23:33,480 --> 01:23:35,200
you know, have you been to Ribby's yet, either of you?

1475
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,040
No.

1476
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,880
No, I've heard about it from you, I think.

1477
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:38,720
Oh wait, Ribby's.

1478
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:39,560
Yeah, Ribby's.

1479
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:40,380
No, I did go to Ribby's.

1480
01:23:40,380 --> 01:23:41,220
So good.

1481
01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:42,200
Justin Peoples works there.

1482
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,200
Shout out Justin.

1483
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:44,600
So I took them there

1484
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,320
because they're like, we want some barbecue.

1485
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,600
That place is so fucking good.

1486
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,160
It's so good.

1487
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,280
But I think they had been open maybe a week or two.

1488
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,520
It was very close to their opening.

1489
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,480
And took Distort in and Justin was working.

1490
01:23:57,480 --> 01:24:01,080
And he, like everyone orders and he just hooked it up.

1491
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:01,920
Fuck yeah.

1492
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,800
So shout out Justin, dude rules.

1493
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,760
But also shout out Ribby's place, great.

1494
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,040
Yeah, because it's, what, the dude's from Goldies,

1495
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,280
which is considered the best barbecue in Texas.

1496
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:12,400
Yeah.

1497
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:13,400
Yeah, Ribby's is awesome.

1498
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:14,920
I took my daughter there and she said

1499
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:16,760
that their ribs are almost as good as mine.

1500
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:17,600
Nice.

1501
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:18,420
Very nice.

1502
01:24:18,420 --> 01:24:19,600
Yeah, her birthday is coming up this week

1503
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,840
and she requested that she have her friends over

1504
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,400
for her party to swim and that I make ribs for them.

1505
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:26,240
That's awesome.

1506
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:27,640
Like that was her one request for her birthday.

1507
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,080
Beef or pork ribs?

1508
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:29,920
Pork.

1509
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:31,600
I've never done beef ribs.

1510
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:32,520
So.

1511
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:33,360
Something to try?

1512
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,120
Yeah, I've seen a guy that makes beef ribs

1513
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,080
out of like something else that's not ribs.

1514
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,840
Because they're like, I think it's like Chuck.

1515
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:41,680
Okay.

1516
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:42,640
And then he like forms them.

1517
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:43,840
I don't know, I'll have to send you that.

1518
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:44,840
I'll have to send you the thing.

1519
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:45,680
Yeah.

1520
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:47,400
Cool.

1521
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:48,240
The thing.

1522
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:53,240
So, what, are there any regional spots,

1523
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:55,680
like if you're on tour that you have to stop at

1524
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,760
that like we don't have in Texas that you're like,

1525
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,000
fuck, I gotta stop there and eat.

1526
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,960
Could be breakfast, could be any food.

1527
01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:04,440
There's a place in Miami I really like.

1528
01:25:04,440 --> 01:25:09,280
It's called, I think it's called Maria's Washateria.

1529
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:13,320
It's a laundry spot, but they have a sandwich spot inside.

1530
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,680
And they have an amazing steak sandwich that I like,

1531
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,400
I think about quite frequently.

1532
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:18,240
It's really good.

1533
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,080
If I ever end up in Miami, I gotta go check that out.

1534
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,480
It's really good, it's like super cheap too.

1535
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:24,840
Like a big old sandwich is maybe like four bucks.

1536
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:25,680
Oh man.

1537
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,720
They have Cuban sandwiches there, it's really good.

1538
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,800
I just had the Lay's Cuban sandwich flavored potato chip

1539
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:31,960
the other night when I got off work.

1540
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:32,960
Pretty good.

1541
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,360
It was badass, it tasted just like a Cuban sandwich.

1542
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:36,200
I'm down with that.

1543
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,680
It like, it's very heavy on the pickle flavor,

1544
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,720
but it was like you got a little bit of ham,

1545
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,720
like some smoky flavor, it was good as fuck.

1546
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,680
I had the Korean barbecue one.

1547
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:46,520
I had those, yeah.

1548
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:47,360
They're pretty good.

1549
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,240
I like all the weird Lay's flavors.

1550
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,000
So you were pretty recently in Thailand,

1551
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:55,480
what was breakfast like over there?

1552
01:25:55,480 --> 01:25:57,640
Dude, so Thailand breakfast kinda changed my life.

1553
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,600
That shit was badass.

1554
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:00,440
When we were talking earlier

1555
01:26:00,440 --> 01:26:01,480
about what are you doing for breakfast,

1556
01:26:01,480 --> 01:26:03,320
I went and be like, oh, when I went to Thailand.

1557
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,720
Yeah, no, I was actually, this is a question

1558
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,520
I was really excited to like dive into,

1559
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,160
is what they do for breakfast in Thailand.

1560
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,920
So my experience with it,

1561
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,520
they have a thing called a Thai omelet.

1562
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,040
And it's, when I watched them make it,

1563
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,080
it was three eggs and they put fish sauce in it.

1564
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:22,280
And they just kind of let it simmer, cook like an omelet.

1565
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,600
And then they just throw it on a bed of rice.

1566
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,720
And then they give you like a little,

1567
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,840
I guess like little cup of, it's like the special sauce

1568
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,680
they make with like Thai chilies, fresh garlic, fish sauce,

1569
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,600
and a little bit of oyster sauce.

1570
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,680
Ooh, so that flavor has to be insane.

1571
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,240
It was so good, so spicy.

1572
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,240
Oh, everything over there was like super spicy, right?

1573
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:45,240
So good.

1574
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:46,400
But I think it was strange, it's like,

1575
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:47,880
when I have spice here,

1576
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,920
and maybe it's just the stuff we cook with,

1577
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,720
it really upsets my stomach, I get really bad heartburn.

1578
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:53,920
Over there, I'd have a bunch of spice

1579
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,760
and I would just be, you know, draining.

1580
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:56,720
But never heartburn.

1581
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,600
Because it's all like fresh ingredients that they're using.

1582
01:26:58,600 --> 01:26:59,800
We're over here, we're using so much

1583
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:01,200
like pre-packaged bullshit.

1584
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:02,760
And like over there, it's like, oh, hey,

1585
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,560
all of this is fresh stuff that you can identify in nature.

1586
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,560
We're here, it's like, oh, hey, here's all this preservative,

1587
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,000
so it'll stay good for 300 years.

1588
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:10,520
True, it's very true.

1589
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,000
But it was, I've made that pretty much almost,

1590
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,440
probably every other morning since I got back.

1591
01:27:16,440 --> 01:27:18,080
It's all I want to eat for breakfast now.

1592
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:18,920
Yeah.

1593
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:19,880
And another thing that's cool is like,

1594
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,040
you don't have to add a bunch of salt

1595
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,600
because of the fish sauce that's in there.

1596
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,920
Do you ever go to Nguyen Loi over off of Bellnap

1597
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:27,960
in Halton City?

1598
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,800
It's a Vietnamese market.

1599
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:30,640
Okay.

1600
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:31,480
And they've got a bunch of Asian stuff.

1601
01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:32,320
I know what you're talking about, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1602
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:33,600
Nick and I used to live behind there.

1603
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,640
And that's like where I'd shop all the time.

1604
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,600
And you can find all kinds of like cool,

1605
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,160
authentic, like Asian food ingredients.

1606
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:41,480
I'm gonna have to go over there for sure.

1607
01:27:41,480 --> 01:27:43,360
And it's all super fucking cheap, it's awesome.

1608
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:44,400
Yeah.

1609
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:45,240
Hell yeah.

1610
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,600
That and also like, so we stayed at this one hotel

1611
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:52,120
in Bangkok and they did like a full spread for breakfast.

1612
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:52,960
And another thing that was really cool

1613
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:56,400
was they had taro buns, which I like taro,

1614
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:57,960
but I've never like dove into.

1615
01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:58,920
Oh, I love taro.

1616
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,120
I probably had 30 of them bitches.

1617
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:02,200
They were so good.

1618
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:03,880
Smuggling back in your suitcase.

1619
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,040
I couldn't believe it.

1620
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:07,040
They're so good.

1621
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:08,720
That's like the texture of them was really strange.

1622
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,320
It was like, it was soft, but like when you tear it away,

1623
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:13,280
it was kind of firm.

1624
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:14,120
I don't know how to explain it.

1625
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:15,120
It was so good.

1626
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:16,000
That sounds amazing.

1627
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:16,840
Yeah.

1628
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,560
With a cup of coffee that was like the best thing.

1629
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,240
Were you getting like Thai iced coffee or just like black coffee?

1630
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,240
I got some Thai coffee.

1631
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,320
My thing is I'm a little bit of like a,

1632
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,520
pretty much after 2020, I became like a germaphobe.

1633
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:30,720
Okay, understandable.

1634
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,240
But when I was four, one over there, everyone was like,

1635
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,520
don't drink the water.

1636
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:34,960
Don't have the ice cubes.

1637
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,080
So anytime anything sort of like ice cubes,

1638
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:38,960
I was like, hold the ice cubes.

1639
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:39,800
Gotcha.

1640
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:40,640
I'll take it hot.

1641
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:41,720
Yeah.

1642
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:46,720
And so it's, is it summer over there right now too?

1643
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:47,880
Or is it?

1644
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:49,160
I think it's always summer.

1645
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:50,000
Yeah.

1646
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:51,320
Cause they're like right on the equator kind of.

1647
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:52,160
Yeah.

1648
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:53,000
Okay.

1649
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,080
But it was right before the raining season.

1650
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:56,880
So I think, I think they have more like raining season,

1651
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,200
not raining season, but it was hot.

1652
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:01,040
Yeah.

1653
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:01,880
It was very hot.

1654
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,880
And does anywhere over there have AC like outside?

1655
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:04,720
Oh yeah.

1656
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:05,560
Okay.

1657
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:06,400
There AC was everywhere.

1658
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:07,240
Okay. That's good.

1659
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:08,080
Cause I've always kind of been told like, yeah,

1660
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:09,680
everything's just kind of open and.

1661
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,360
No, like, yeah, there was definitely places where it was

1662
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,800
like, like the hotels, restaurants, everything had AC

1663
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:15,640
for the most part.

1664
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:16,480
Okay.

1665
01:29:16,480 --> 01:29:17,320
Yeah.

1666
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,320
So the reason you were in Thailand was for

1667
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:20,440
concrete jungle fest.

1668
01:29:20,440 --> 01:29:21,720
Yeah.

1669
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,040
Renee, are you familiar with concrete jungle fest?

1670
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,280
I am, yes.

1671
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,320
The lineup this year was insane.

1672
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:27,160
So.

1673
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:28,000
It was crazy.

1674
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,800
Like, you know, Zabolvo played, that's cool.

1675
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:34,320
So I was a ball with 1919, like a fucking Marauder played.

1676
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,320
Marauder played.

1677
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:36,160
Kickback.

1678
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,120
Holy fucking shit.

1679
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,080
Yeah, that was something.

1680
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,000
I, how violent was that set?

1681
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:43,840
It was very violent.

1682
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:45,400
I mean, it was one of those things,

1683
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,360
like remember like back in the day,

1684
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:47,960
like everyone had style moshing.

1685
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:48,800
Yeah.

1686
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:49,640
And like, it was like, oh, that guy is cool.

1687
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,520
Everyone in Southeast Asia has style.

1688
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,200
Like I was watching the videos and it was literally like

1689
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,160
a room of Balarams.

1690
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:57,000
It was incredible.

1691
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:58,920
Like all of, I was just like, man,

1692
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,000
there's not like one dude here who doesn't know

1693
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:01,840
what the fuck he's doing.

1694
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:02,680
Like.

1695
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:03,520
No, it was awesome.

1696
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:04,360
Yeah.

1697
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:05,680
Like watching those videos from kickbacks,

1698
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,160
from y'all set, like.

1699
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:08,040
To the Marauder set.

1700
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,280
Oh, I fucking love Marauder.

1701
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,240
That was the first time they were in Southeast Asia

1702
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,240
and they're huge over there.

1703
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:15,080
Yeah.

1704
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:16,520
And so people were just fucking losing their minds.

1705
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:19,640
Cause there's so many like distros in Southeast Asia

1706
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,160
that do like bootleg stuff

1707
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,560
that release American bands over there.

1708
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,080
And I've always heard like the scene over there is insane

1709
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,760
because you don't get a lot of Western bands

1710
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:29,880
to her over there.

1711
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,760
So when you Western bands show up,

1712
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,920
those kids just lose their shit.

1713
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:35,840
They're hungry for it, which is also like cool

1714
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,080
because I feel like a lot in America,

1715
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,080
we get a little jaded cause we have.

1716
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:40,800
Oh, every night there's a show.

1717
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:41,640
Yeah.

1718
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,280
But there is, you know,

1719
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,800
as soon as a Western band comes, they're losing their minds.

1720
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:46,640
Yeah.

1721
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,920
And I never saw Marauder.

1722
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,360
I had a couple of chances and I haven't seen them.

1723
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,960
The last time they're actually supposed to come through here

1724
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:55,120
with Li Wei.

1725
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:56,520
They're supposed to play at Gas Monkey.

1726
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:57,360
With Li Wei?

1727
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:58,880
This was like 2017.

1728
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:00,040
Oh, I think my reason was like.

1729
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,000
No, this was like five or six,

1730
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:03,240
at least five or six years ago.

1731
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:04,200
I was like, who's singing?

1732
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:05,920
And I had, yeah, RIP.

1733
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:07,520
I know, RIP.

1734
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,240
But no, I had tickets for it

1735
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:10,640
cause I was like my fucking love Marauder.

1736
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,000
I've missed him every time.

1737
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,280
One of the members got stabbed in Arizona

1738
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:15,200
the night before. Jesus Christ.

1739
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:16,040
I think I remember this story.

1740
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:17,960
Yeah, so the whole tour got canceled.

1741
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,520
I was so bummed.

1742
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:20,840
I ended up catching Li Wei.

1743
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,560
Were you at the 1919 Li Wei set?

1744
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:23,400
Yeah.

1745
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:24,240
That was sick.

1746
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,440
Was it a chill ass weekend or?

1747
01:31:26,440 --> 01:31:27,960
What was that?

1748
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:28,800
A chill ass festival?

1749
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:29,640
I think so, something like that.

1750
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,480
They played like two songs or three songs?

1751
01:31:31,480 --> 01:31:32,800
Yeah, Eddie Li Wei was just like there,

1752
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,640
like in the van and came out, did some songs.

1753
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:40,320
But I saw Li Wei at the Ridgely Room in like 2019.

1754
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:41,840
Was it the Ridgely, or the Ridgely Lounge?

1755
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:42,680
Like the little room.

1756
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,320
Yeah.

1757
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,920
Matt D was there, Andy Zerotti was there.

1758
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:48,040
There were like five people there.

1759
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,600
And they, Matt and Andy had a band that played.

1760
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,520
But yeah, it was, that was cool.

1761
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,600
That was like the only Li Wei set I saw.

1762
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,000
And again, it was Eddie Li Wei with the backing band.

1763
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,760
But they were so sick.

1764
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,640
RIP, Eddie Li Wei.

1765
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:03,600
Yeah.

1766
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,040
That's a massive loss.

1767
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:05,720
Yeah.

1768
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,000
But yeah, no, that concrete jungle festival.

1769
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,440
I was watching all those videos and that show was awesome.

1770
01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:11,440
Dude, it was so cool.

1771
01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:14,120
I mean, if anyone gets a chance to go to that festival

1772
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,680
and you can afford it, I mean, it's very expensive out there.

1773
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,200
But go to it.

1774
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:19,680
Like they're really great people.

1775
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,000
It's a really great festival.

1776
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:21,680
Fuck yeah.

1777
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:22,200
Yeah.

1778
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,080
So while you were there, I know that you went to a couple

1779
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:25,040
Muay Thai gyms.

1780
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:26,240
Did you get a train there?

1781
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,240
Yeah, I got the train a couple of times.

1782
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:29,160
How was that?

1783
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:30,800
It was amazing.

1784
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:31,520
Very hot.

1785
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,240
Like you were talking about like open air.

1786
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:34,640
Every gym is open air.

1787
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:38,080
So that was a new hurdle to get over.

1788
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:38,960
But.

1789
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,280
Just bring it back to Texas and start training outside.

1790
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:42,000
Pretty much.

1791
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,160
I mean, I went back to my gym and I love my gym.

1792
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:48,720
But I was like, man, this is like kind of easy in comparison.

1793
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:50,560
Yeah, because those dudes, I mean,

1794
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,520
did you run into a lot of Westerners,

1795
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:54,040
like Americans, Europeans?

1796
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:58,520
A lot of Europeans, a lot of Russians, a lot of Australians.

1797
01:32:58,520 --> 01:32:59,600
But it's really strange.

1798
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:00,640
I had no idea.

1799
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:05,040
But in Thailand, all their signs are in Thai, Russian,

1800
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:05,880
and English.

1801
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:07,240
Wow, because there's a lot of Australians

1802
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:08,440
that vacation there, right?

1803
01:33:08,440 --> 01:33:09,520
A lot of Australians.

1804
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,400
But there was so many Russians.

1805
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,000
Really?

1806
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:13,120
All over the place.

1807
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,400
Like Phuket was pretty much like Little Russia.

1808
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:16,200
That's wild.

1809
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:16,680
Yeah.

1810
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:17,640
I never would have thought.

1811
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,800
They were kind of explaining like, oh, this is like,

1812
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:21,880
they're Hawaii.

1813
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:23,640
That's where they go on vacation.

1814
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:24,240
OK.

1815
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:25,440
Yeah, that's awesome.

1816
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:28,040
Yeah, because I know some of my Australian friends,

1817
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,720
they love Thailand and spend a lot of time there.

1818
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:31,440
Oh, yeah.

1819
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:33,160
A lot of them go to South Korea, too.

1820
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:34,360
I'd love to go to South Korea.

1821
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,360
Yeah, I hear South Korea is fucking awesome.

1822
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:37,720
Yeah.

1823
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,160
Got a book a tour.

1824
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,560
I would love to.

1825
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:43,320
Awesome.

1826
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:50,880
So I guess, is any specific things about your time in Thailand

1827
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,640
that you want to talk about?

1828
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,840
Whether it's music or the training, anything that really

1829
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:56,280
stuck out with you?

1830
01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:00,120
What stuck out to me was just how friendly the culture was.

1831
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,120
Everywhere you go, everyone's like,

1832
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:04,440
it's almost like they're looking to say hello.

1833
01:34:04,440 --> 01:34:06,840
And I feel like here, everyone's just kind of like,

1834
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,640
I can't look at you type thing.

1835
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:10,240
And so there, it's like they're looking

1836
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:12,320
for the connection of hello.

1837
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,320
And another thing I really enjoy, too,

1838
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,720
is apart from Western culture, they don't shake hands.

1839
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:18,960
It's all bowing.

1840
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,320
And I was like, that's honestly.

1841
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:21,720
Not having the germaphobe.

1842
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:22,960
Not having to touch hands.

1843
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:24,520
I was like, that's kind of dope.

1844
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,280
But also, it just seems more respectful.

1845
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,280
I'm going to respect your space type thing, which I kind of like.

1846
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:31,200
For sure.

1847
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,600
But yeah, there's very generous people, very nice people.

1848
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,360
Everyone's smiling.

1849
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,440
Another thing I really liked is the difference

1850
01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:40,840
between American culture and being in the area

1851
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:46,720
where Muay Thai came from was the mentality behind fighting.

1852
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:50,960
And here, it's like a high testosterone, like be a bad ass.

1853
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,160
And obviously, there they are, fucking bad asses.

1854
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,680
But when you're training, they're very like, no.

1855
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,040
We're here to train.

1856
01:34:58,040 --> 01:34:59,320
We're here to get better.

1857
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,320
Like basically have fun, because the fight's

1858
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,000
going to come either way.

1859
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,480
Why be worked up before it?

1860
01:35:05,480 --> 01:35:06,120
I like that.

1861
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:07,560
That mentality is really awesome.

1862
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:08,360
Yeah.

1863
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,000
It was really cool to encounter that.

1864
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,440
And then, I don't know, it kind of like changed when I came back.

1865
01:35:12,440 --> 01:35:14,800
And I was like, before that, I was like blasting Pat.

1866
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,600
I have a funny story.

1867
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:18,160
Sorry, I'm just kind of going off now.

1868
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:18,600
No, you're good.

1869
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:19,080
Go for it.

1870
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,280
The first gym I went to was called Kraytom Gym.

1871
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,160
And it was in Bangkok.

1872
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:28,800
And I go in, and I'm super hyped up.

1873
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,080
And so the workout goes.

1874
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:33,840
It was three stations.

1875
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:38,960
It was hitting pads with a pro, heavy bag, and then tires.

1876
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:40,880
And so I didn't know what the tires were for.

1877
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:42,080
I haven't encountered a tire.

1878
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:48,520
And so I start on the heavy bag, like just freestyle, just hit the bag, yada, yada.

1879
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,720
And so I'm in the bag first round, like cool, cool.

1880
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:51,600
I'm getting warmed up.

1881
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,280
And then next was tires.

1882
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,840
And tires, all you're doing for three minutes straight is bouncing.

1883
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,600
And I thought, this is just to keep me warm, to keep me going,

1884
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,440
which probably that's all it is for.

1885
01:36:02,440 --> 01:36:05,400
But then I step off the tire after three minutes,

1886
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,320
and my calves are like shot.

1887
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:07,880
Frying jelly?

1888
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:08,560
Just shot.

1889
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,200
I'm like, oh my god.

1890
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,200
And then the pro says, OK, now let's hit pads.

1891
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:17,400
And so I'm super amped up, and I start hitting the pads as hard as I can.

1892
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:18,960
And he's kind of laughing.

1893
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,560
And he's like, you hit hard.

1894
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,640
And I was like, thank you.

1895
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,840
And so I come back around, and I'm burnt.

1896
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,040
I have to do five rounds of this.

1897
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:30,880
And so I come back from the tires.

1898
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,440
I'm like, oh shit, this is hot.

1899
01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:34,800
I'm already tired.

1900
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,760
I drank way too much beer last night.

1901
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,120
And so I go, and I'm not hitting the pads as hard.

1902
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,480
And he goes, no, you hit hard.

1903
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:45,120
And I was like, not anymore.

1904
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:46,480
And so he's joking with me.

1905
01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:48,840
And at that point, he kind of starts playing and sweeping me

1906
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:50,960
and being like, no, hit hard, hit hard.

1907
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,400
And so then I come back to the third round, and I'm beat.

1908
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:55,960
And he says, no, just train.

1909
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:58,320
Get better.

1910
01:36:58,320 --> 01:36:59,040
Just be better.

1911
01:36:59,040 --> 01:36:59,800
Yeah, just get better.

1912
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:00,560
Do better.

1913
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:04,640
And so that's a cool way of correcting someone.

1914
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,160
In my opinion, instead of just being like, what are you doing?

1915
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:10,640
Just kind of putting it back on them and being like, no, no,

1916
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,000
you're a bad ass.

1917
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,400
Oh, man, that's awesome.

1918
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:14,320
No, it was cool.

1919
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:15,920
That sounds like such a cool trip.

1920
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,160
It was life changing for sure.

1921
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:18,840
I wish I was still there.

1922
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,240
I'm really glad that I reached out to you when I did

1923
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:22,600
and so that you could come on here

1924
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:23,840
and we could hear about that.

1925
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,040
Because I really wanted to pick your brain about it.

1926
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,280
So hell, yeah.

1927
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:30,560
Renee, I feel like I've just kind of been

1928
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:31,280
asking all the questions.

1929
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:32,520
No, it's perfectly fine.

1930
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,640
I've been enjoying just being a fly on the wall.

1931
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,080
All right.

1932
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:41,760
Just because peripherally, being into the hardcore scene

1933
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:46,360
so much with you, just being here

1934
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,800
and hearing all the backstories and all of the stuff,

1935
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,360
connecting all the people that we've collected.

1936
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,960
We collect so many people from so many places.

1937
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,880
Like you're saying, somebody plays a narrowhead

1938
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,680
and we know a few people that play in a narrowhead.

1939
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,520
And it's just very cool to hear.

1940
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:02,240
Shout out Ruby.

1941
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,040
Yeah, shout out Ruby.

1942
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:08,240
And also, yeah, I've traveled to Japan

1943
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:09,360
and a couple of different places.

1944
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,200
So hearing another travel story is just always great.

1945
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,360
I've never been to Thailand, but I've

1946
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,600
seen just the fighters that go to Thailand

1947
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,640
and just the lifestyle.

1948
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:22,920
And so you do get intrigued by the mystique of,

1949
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,400
oh, you're going to run five miles before you train.

1950
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:26,920
And then you're going to be outside

1951
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:28,480
and you're going to eat.

1952
01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:31,040
I mean, it's basically just blood sport, right?

1953
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:32,200
Basically, yeah.

1954
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:33,720
Which I'm sure you do get that.

1955
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,720
But in my experience, it was just kind of like,

1956
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:37,440
and also like, I'm a hobbyist.

1957
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:38,600
I'm not like some pros.

1958
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:40,600
Like I'm going to be a good fighter.

1959
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:41,000
And it's cool.

1960
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,560
I think you put the nail on the head, though.

1961
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:44,040
Like as men, we kind of put ourselves

1962
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:48,440
in that mental frame every time we go to train or do something.

1963
01:38:48,440 --> 01:38:51,160
We're like, we've got to be the best and strongest.

1964
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:52,680
And then it's like, we.

1965
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,440
Schwarzenegger and Jean-Claude Van Damme

1966
01:38:54,440 --> 01:38:58,680
and Stephen Seagal movies growing up, just like, oh, high T.

1967
01:38:58,680 --> 01:38:59,600
Yeah.

1968
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,520
Hey, I wish I had more high T.

1969
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,840
Hey, I know a doctor.

1970
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,560
We can talk after the show.

1971
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:08,960
Dr. Pepper.

1972
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:09,840
Yep, exactly.

1973
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:18,240
So I can't we talk like I am a novice UFC guy.

1974
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,600
So Renee does a lot of the UFC talk here.

1975
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,160
And I am here to absorb it.

1976
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,720
I've been watching more UFC.

1977
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:30,200
But what is do you have a favorite combat sports moment,

1978
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,960
pro or amateur that you've seen?

1979
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,280
I guess I'll go back to Thailand.

1980
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:42,280
I got to go to like a Thai fight there, which was really sick.

1981
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,080
That was probably the coolest live experience

1982
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:49,880
I had because I was immersed in what I'm really into.

1983
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:54,560
And just seeing how passionate everyone is and the fighters

1984
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:58,360
and the whole like walking out with the music.

1985
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,200
And it was all like amazing.

1986
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:02,680
The shorts are.

1987
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:03,080
The what?

1988
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:03,560
The shorts.

1989
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:04,680
Oh, the shorts are awesome.

1990
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:05,440
Love the shorts.

1991
01:40:05,440 --> 01:40:05,960
Yeah.

1992
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:08,400
Muay Thai has the best fighting kit.

1993
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,520
We're going to do scourge, Muay Thai shorts.

1994
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,240
You put out those fucking awesome shorts

1995
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,880
with bad last week or 4th of July.

1996
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:15,920
Those turned out wild.

1997
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:16,960
Those are so cool.

1998
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:18,160
Thanks, man.

1999
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,240
Yeah, you guys should definitely do some Muay Thai shorts.

2000
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:21,000
I would love to.

2001
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,080
Or fugitive Muay Thai shorts.

2002
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:23,600
I can't.

2003
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:23,960
I can't.

2004
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,400
OK, I can do scourge because Chaney also trains.

2005
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:27,200
OK.

2006
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:29,000
No one else trains in fugitives.

2007
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,880
So if it was just me doing it, I feel like that's a little.

2008
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:32,360
OK.

2009
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,200
I'm taking advantage or something.

2010
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:37,200
Scourge should definitely do limited run Muay Thai shorts.

2011
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:38,120
I'd love to.

2012
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:39,160
I would definitely buy some.

2013
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:39,680
I would love to.

2014
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:40,360
That'd be awesome.

2015
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,640
I have more shorts than I know what to do with.

2016
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:44,160
Anytime I see a cool pair of shorts on my hands.

2017
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:45,280
Dude, shorts rock.

2018
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:46,040
Yeah.

2019
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:47,280
It's also fucking Texas.

2020
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:48,280
It's so goddamn hot.

2021
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:48,840
It's toe hot.

2022
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:50,400
I'm actually wearing pants right now,

2023
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,840
which is strange for me this time of day.

2024
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:54,920
If I'm not at work, I'm not wearing pants.

2025
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:55,400
So.

2026
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:56,120
They look cozy.

2027
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:57,360
I mean, they're joggers.

2028
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,400
I literally so I.

2029
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,440
I watched that movie last night.

2030
01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:02,480
I started at 2 AM.

2031
01:41:02,480 --> 01:41:04,600
It was over at 4 and then I realized

2032
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,680
I hadn't eaten since 6 PM, so I went to Old South

2033
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:08,880
after the movie.

2034
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:10,160
I got home at 5.

2035
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,440
I woke up at 915 through some pants on

2036
01:41:12,440 --> 01:41:13,840
and when I got coffee and now I'm here.

2037
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:14,760
So nice.

2038
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,800
Yeah, so I literally the pants were the closest thing

2039
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:18,440
I could grab.

2040
01:41:18,440 --> 01:41:19,560
They're closer than shorts.

2041
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:21,280
That's why I'm not in shorts today.

2042
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:25,760
But yeah, scourge Muay Thai shorts would be fucking sick.

2043
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:26,600
I'll probably make.

2044
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:27,520
Yeah, do it.

2045
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:28,240
I'll probably make.

2046
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:32,920
Renee, do you want to do UFC talk?

2047
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:33,920
Do we have time for it?

2048
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:34,800
Sure.

2049
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:35,640
Just quickly.

2050
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,040
Yeah, we can if you'd like.

2051
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,680
Before we do that, thank you very much for sharing with us

2052
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:40,400
about your trip.

2053
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:43,000
And is there anything that you want

2054
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:45,880
to plug that's coming up on the horizon for you musically

2055
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,840
or artistically or even just things that you're

2056
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:50,080
excited about coming up?

2057
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:50,600
Yes.

2058
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:53,120
Right now, we're writing the fugitive LP.

2059
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:57,280
So we're working on like 12 songs right now.

2060
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:58,320
Just look out for that.

2061
01:41:58,320 --> 01:41:59,680
Pretty excited about doing that.

2062
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:02,000
Actually, like last night, we were working on stuff.

2063
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:03,760
So I was out kind of late too.

2064
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:07,480
But yeah, doing that.

2065
01:42:07,480 --> 01:42:08,280
Yeah.

2066
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:11,920
Scourge is playing in Houston two weeks.

2067
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:15,520
Yeah, is it hard to do the scourge stuff?

2068
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,360
Because I know Jacob doing narrowhead and narrowhead

2069
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,640
is like constantly doing shit.

2070
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:22,320
Yeah, they've been in Asia for a month.

2071
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:23,040
Damn.

2072
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,800
And then you're like up in DFW.

2073
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,720
They're all in Houston or on the road.

2074
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,880
Is it hard to schedule stuff with that?

2075
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:33,080
Really, the thing that's only hard is like this not sleeping.

2076
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:34,680
Because if they have a show, they're like, hey,

2077
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:35,920
we have this show and it all works out.

2078
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:39,200
Like, we'll just lose sleep and just go play and then come back

2079
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:40,120
be miserable the next day.

2080
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:40,760
Life is short.

2081
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,120
You only get to do it once.

2082
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:42,800
I feel that.

2083
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,000
I've definitely played shows like that.

2084
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,160
Human Era played with Tidal Fight and Alpha and Omega

2085
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:48,320
in a house in Austin.

2086
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:49,240
Yeah.

2087
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,640
I think it was Colt Tucker?

2088
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:53,080
Yeah, it was the artillery.

2089
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:54,080
Yeah, were you at that show?

2090
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:54,560
Yeah.

2091
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:55,480
That show was insane.

2092
01:42:55,480 --> 01:42:57,640
But I literally had to work the next day.

2093
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:01,680
So I drove down, set up, played the show, loaded out,

2094
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,240
and then drove straight back after the show was over.

2095
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:05,120
That's how it's done.

2096
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:08,400
Yeah, and it's just like, you only get these opportunities

2097
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,120
and you're only young for so often.

2098
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:11,440
You're tired for a day and it just

2099
01:43:11,440 --> 01:43:13,200
gives a little bit of brain damage later on.

2100
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:14,360
Yeah, it's all good.

2101
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:15,680
But hey, we're eating oatmeal.

2102
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:16,520
We're going to live to be 100.

2103
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:17,080
Exactly.

2104
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,520
That oatmeal is going to come through for us.

2105
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:23,120
All right, so quickly, last night,

2106
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,160
so if you're listening to this this week,

2107
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:29,560
this was USC Fight Night, Saturday, July 13

2108
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:31,840
at Ballerina in Denver.

2109
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,480
We had Rosenam Eunice and Tracy Cortez.

2110
01:43:34,480 --> 01:43:36,480
That was the headliner.

2111
01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:38,960
And some of the ones that we mentioned last week,

2112
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:40,880
like ones to watch where we talked about,

2113
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,960
like we were looking forward to.

2114
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:45,200
Excuse me.

2115
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:49,240
I will say right off the bat, Montel Jackson

2116
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:53,600
knocking out Daman Blackshear in 18 seconds

2117
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:58,400
was probably one of the coolest knockouts I've seen.

2118
01:43:58,400 --> 01:43:59,240
We talked about this.

2119
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,960
Never seen either one of those fighters fight.

2120
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,080
But dude came up and did a straight one, two,

2121
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:04,960
right down the middle.

2122
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:07,520
And dude hit his back of his head on the canvas.

2123
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:08,080
That was gnarly.

2124
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:08,800
It was nasty.

2125
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:10,840
So shout out Montel Jackson.

2126
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:14,440
He got performance of the night.

2127
01:44:14,440 --> 01:44:16,480
A couple of other ones that we were watching,

2128
01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:18,200
Abdul Razak Alhassan.

2129
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:22,160
We shouted him out because he is doing some recovery over

2130
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:24,160
at Fort Worth Float Company.

2131
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:28,640
Had a controversial no contest fight last night.

2132
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,080
Within the first 30 seconds, him and Cody Brundage

2133
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,960
were just scrapping really, really fast and really,

2134
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:35,000
really heavy.

2135
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:39,440
And Mr. Alhassan did not watch where his elbows were going.

2136
01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:43,040
And he hit the back of dude's head a few times.

2137
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:43,880
Two things on that.

2138
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:48,800
One, watching back, none of them were intentional.

2139
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,320
I think the pace of the fight was just so frenetic.

2140
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,720
And you could see that he was trying to angle off

2141
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:58,600
and grab the ear and grab the side of the head.

2142
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:00,400
Dan Murgliato was the referee.

2143
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:04,000
He had not called any fights until that first fight.

2144
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,080
So it's one of those things where Murgliato

2145
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:07,440
was kind of cold.

2146
01:45:07,440 --> 01:45:10,040
The pace of the fight was really quick.

2147
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:11,880
But it was one of those things where

2148
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:14,680
Cody Brundage had the opportunity to tell the doctors

2149
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:17,280
whether or not he could continue.

2150
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:21,080
And in my opinion, he was looking for a way out.

2151
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,520
So he had two doctors come in and ask him,

2152
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:25,560
can you continue?

2153
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:27,400
And he just kept on saying, I don't know.

2154
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:29,840
I don't know.

2155
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,440
He clearly did not want any of the smoke.

2156
01:45:32,440 --> 01:45:36,480
So lastly, we will talk.

2157
01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:40,080
We talked Drew Dover, John Silva, Jean Silva, John Silva

2158
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,800
quickly, great fight all the way into round three.

2159
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:47,400
We had that doctor stoppage because of the cut.

2160
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:52,520
And then the headlining card, Rosanamina's Tracy Cortez.

2161
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:55,440
Tracy Cortez had to cut her hair to make weight.

2162
01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:56,720
That was interesting.

2163
01:45:56,720 --> 01:46:00,240
But didn't she also hold it on the scale?

2164
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:01,920
It was very much for optics.

2165
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:05,320
It was one of those things where she was 0.5 over the limit.

2166
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:09,040
And her coach weighed her hair on a food scale,

2167
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:11,760
found out that it was like half a pound, cut it off.

2168
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,160
And then while she was weighing, she was holding it.

2169
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:15,280
The pound's still there.

2170
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:16,560
And then they were like, wait, you

2171
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:17,800
have to hand it off to somebody.

2172
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:21,000
And then she still was over and her coach shouted, suck it in.

2173
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:25,480
So she went, and then that half pound disappeared.

2174
01:46:25,480 --> 01:46:25,960
Yeah.

2175
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:27,520
So it's magic.

2176
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:28,280
I think they.

2177
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:31,880
She might have had the shaman on her side.

2178
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:33,200
It's that black magic.

2179
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:33,680
That's right.

2180
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:37,080
So Rose was able to be faster than her, stronger than her,

2181
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:41,320
dominated her on the ground, and overall just kind of showed

2182
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:43,560
Tracy Cortez that there are levels to this.

2183
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,880
Because Tracy Cortez took this on a short notice.

2184
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:50,000
Macy Barber was supposed to fight, pulled out.

2185
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:53,440
So Tracy Cortez is stepping up a short notice.

2186
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:54,240
It was a good fight.

2187
01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:55,160
Tracy did her best.

2188
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:59,920
But I think, like I said, Rose kind of took it to her.

2189
01:46:59,920 --> 01:47:06,680
Upcoming, we have Amanda Lemos and Virna Jean de Rova,

2190
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:10,320
which every time I watch this lady fight,

2191
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:14,280
I'll show you a picture of her, the one on the right here.

2192
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:15,240
Yes.

2193
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,520
I just never know where she's looking.

2194
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:21,520
So I had your guess as good as mine.

2195
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:24,280
Growing up, my grandpa would call people

2196
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:26,480
who had eyes like that A&P eyes.

2197
01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:27,680
An A&P.

2198
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:28,840
Say one's looking at the Atlantic,

2199
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:32,040
one's looking at the Pacific.

2200
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,360
So that's the headlining card coming up this Saturday.

2201
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,960
It's Amanda Lemos versus Virna Jean de Rova, two Brazilian

2202
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:37,480
fighters.

2203
01:47:37,480 --> 01:47:40,120
It's going to be fireworks.

2204
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:42,080
Your co-headliner, or your co-mate event,

2205
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,480
sorry, is Brad Tavares and Jun Young Park.

2206
01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:48,040
So we're going to see some fireworks there as well.

2207
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:49,840
Just taking a quick look at the card.

2208
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:53,120
And I'm not seeing much worth noting.

2209
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:56,360
Miranda Maverick is going to fight on the undercard.

2210
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,400
And Kamara Usman's brother, Mohammed Usman,

2211
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:00,960
will be opening the card.

2212
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:01,840
That's a local.

2213
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:02,800
Yeah.

2214
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:04,280
Homies trains out in Dallas.

2215
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:08,360
So we're excited to see him fight.

2216
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,600
So yeah, it was an exciting fight last night.

2217
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:13,240
There were some boos to be had.

2218
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,240
But if you're not a fan of grappling and that sort of thing,

2219
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:17,840
you might have been bored.

2220
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:21,120
But I personally enjoyed the Drew Dover fight.

2221
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,240
Both of those guys came out hot and heavy.

2222
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:26,480
A lot of the undercard fights were really exciting.

2223
01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:29,960
Just looking forward to, I guess in two weeks,

2224
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:31,120
is the big one.

2225
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:40,160
So we have Leon Edwards and Bilal Mohammed, too.

2226
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:41,560
Who do you offer that one?

2227
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,160
I think Leon Edwards is going to go ahead and take care of it.

2228
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:45,800
I think he's got the right mentality.

2229
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:48,000
He's ready to get that second belt.

2230
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:52,760
And I think that is going to happen between him and Hamza.

2231
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:53,360
No.

2232
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:54,200
Bilal.

2233
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:56,320
No.

2234
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:59,840
The guy that has the belt, that's Habib's like.

2235
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:01,640
Oh, Islam.

2236
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:02,240
Islam, yeah.

2237
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:03,320
I think that fight's going to happen.

2238
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:05,160
And I think they both have that mentality.

2239
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,040
Has that fight been scheduled?

2240
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,360
It hasn't been scheduled because this is happening.

2241
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:13,400
But what I just heard from him, from Leon this week,

2242
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:15,760
is that he's got three title defense.

2243
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:17,280
Islam has three title defense.

2244
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,200
It only makes sense that they fight each other next.

2245
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:21,400
I think that would be a really good fight.

2246
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:22,640
Yeah, I'm excited for that.

2247
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:24,840
So in two weeks, we got Leon Edwards, Bilal Mohammed,

2248
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,200
Tom Aspin, all Curtis Blades, which is crazy

2249
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:30,040
because you've got two belts on the line there.

2250
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:34,480
And that's the same weight class as John Jones.

2251
01:49:34,480 --> 01:49:36,320
So we're waiting to see whether or not

2252
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:38,560
John Jones is going to fight Stipe.

2253
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:42,200
You've got Alex Pereira that's kind of throwing his name up

2254
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:44,480
there, wanting to go for the third belt

2255
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:46,080
in a third different weight class.

2256
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:48,120
I think that would be cool to see.

2257
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:50,640
You've also got Bobby King Green and Patty Pimblitt

2258
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:52,040
that are about to fight each other.

2259
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:55,560
Patty the Batty is one of those polarizing characters.

2260
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:57,160
You either love him or you hate him.

2261
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,760
He is a guy that gains a lot of weight

2262
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,160
and then loses it really quickly before he fights.

2263
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:03,000
Must be nice.

2264
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,200
Bobby King Green, that dude is certifiably-

2265
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:07,080
I love Bobby King.

2266
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:09,640
A cool OG of just like-

2267
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:10,680
Crazy style.

2268
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:11,840
Yeah, yeah.

2269
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:15,360
So again, lots of great fights coming up in two weeks.

2270
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:16,200
Something to look forward to.

2271
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:17,040
It's a really good card.

2272
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:19,320
Yeah, it's Meatball Molly's fighting.

2273
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:23,000
Anytime you see Patty, usually Molly's right there,

2274
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:23,840
right behind him.

2275
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:24,680
True.

2276
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:25,840
Looking forward to that coming up,

2277
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,200
but let's not overlook next week's,

2278
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,280
like I said, Amanda Lamos.

2279
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:33,480
She's really, really good and I'm excited for that as well.

2280
01:50:33,480 --> 01:50:38,480
So we've got several promotions that we've been looking at

2281
01:50:39,440 --> 01:50:41,320
to kind of talk about as well.

2282
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:42,360
One that Jason brought up to me,

2283
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:44,320
I don't know if you've heard, is Rough and Rowdy.

2284
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:45,160
No, not from-

2285
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:47,840
So this is a newer promotion that I guess

2286
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,360
Barstool may be helping out with a little bit.

2287
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:53,040
And they have some comedians that do fight companions

2288
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:54,400
along with that.

2289
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:55,560
So-

2290
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:57,960
I think I may have seen something with a comedian

2291
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:00,040
that I follow doing one of those.

2292
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:01,360
Like, is it in Miami?

2293
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:03,360
I think so, yeah.

2294
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:07,960
We also had Jorge Maspedal and Nate Diaz just boxed.

2295
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,080
We talked about that a little bit.

2296
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:13,360
The scuttlebutt there is that the end of the fight

2297
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,360
is that Nate said he wants to come back to the UFC

2298
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:16,180
and fight for a belt.

2299
01:51:16,180 --> 01:51:20,600
So if that happens, I would love to see it.

2300
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:23,240
I think they're gonna try to tee that up somewhere

2301
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:26,440
with the fallout of Michael Chandler, Conor McGregor,

2302
01:51:26,440 --> 01:51:29,680
try to get that trilogy fight in there at some point.

2303
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,120
So yeah, lots of cool stuff happening

2304
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:35,400
on the professional side of UFC, lots of moving pieces.

2305
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:39,220
A lot of pulling out has really changed the game

2306
01:51:39,220 --> 01:51:40,300
for the past month.

2307
01:51:40,300 --> 01:51:41,860
You've got people that are pulling out left and right,

2308
01:51:41,860 --> 01:51:42,780
people that are stepping up.

2309
01:51:42,780 --> 01:51:45,360
So looking forward to that.

2310
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:46,960
Last night was fun, like I said.

2311
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:51,800
Any UFC thoughts before we wrap up?

2312
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:53,600
I don't have many.

2313
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:54,440
I know you don't.

2314
01:51:54,440 --> 01:51:55,760
I don't keep up with it.

2315
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:57,080
I try to send you as much as the most.

2316
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:58,160
No, I appreciate that.

2317
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:00,200
I'm able to keep up more now than I used to.

2318
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:04,680
Yeah, so any of the big knockouts or cool submissions

2319
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,100
or even one thing that I did want to talk about

2320
01:52:07,100 --> 01:52:10,400
before we left is Nick Diaz fan at all.

2321
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:11,240
I love Nick Diaz.

2322
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:12,240
I love both Diaz brothers.

2323
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:16,320
So I sent you probably one of my favorite submissions

2324
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:17,160
of all time.

2325
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:18,200
It was so sick.

2326
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:21,480
It's when Nick Diaz goes to Japan to fight Takanomi Gomi

2327
01:52:21,480 --> 01:52:24,280
and he does the go go plata with his leg

2328
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:26,520
and chokes him out that way.

2329
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:27,880
Just excited.

2330
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,920
I think Nick is fighting in the next couple of weeks.

2331
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:32,120
I think I saw that.

2332
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,000
So looking forward to that.

2333
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:35,320
Is it Vincent A. Luca?

2334
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:36,160
Yeah.

2335
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:40,800
I think coming up we should do just a Diaz brothers episode

2336
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:45,000
and just kind of talk about just the impact of the sport,

2337
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:46,880
impact on the sport that they had.

2338
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:48,440
They were one of the first kind of guys

2339
01:52:48,440 --> 01:52:50,440
to like weaponize cardio.

2340
01:52:50,440 --> 01:52:54,600
They really, they did triathlons.

2341
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,760
And so biking, running, swimming, all that stuff like that

2342
01:52:57,760 --> 01:52:59,840
on top of training MMA and jujitsu

2343
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:01,480
and having an amazing boxing coach.

2344
01:53:01,480 --> 01:53:04,920
So plus talking about talking shit.

2345
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:05,800
You want to talk some shit?

2346
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:06,960
Oh, they know how to do it.

2347
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:08,240
The masters of talking shit.

2348
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:10,240
So looking forward to that.

2349
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:12,880
We got a Diaz brothers podcast coming up.

2350
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:14,280
Maybe we can get them on the show.

2351
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:15,120
That'd be sick.

2352
01:53:16,480 --> 01:53:19,000
All we gotta do is put a big pile of weed right here

2353
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:19,840
and they'll show up.

2354
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:21,400
Oh, well we know some people.

2355
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:23,600
That's true.

2356
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,720
Again, thank you, Seth, for being here.

2357
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:27,280
I appreciate you taking the time out.

2358
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:30,160
I know it's kind of, we're kind of a smaller podcast

2359
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:31,000
just getting started.

2360
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:31,840
That's awesome.

2361
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,600
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2362
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:36,720
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2363
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:39,000
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2364
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:39,840
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2365
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:41,560
So thank you for joining us.

2366
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:42,800
We appreciate you.

2367
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:43,640
Thank you guys.

2368
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,160
And we're can, so Scourge is on,

2369
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:48,400
Scourge and FutureDiver are on all streaming platforms.

2370
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:49,440
All streaming.

2371
01:53:49,440 --> 01:53:50,280
Awesome.

2372
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:52,280
Apple, Spotify, Bangham.

2373
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:54,880
But more importantly, you wanna buy their merchandise,

2374
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,000
their records, you wanna go see them live

2375
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,000
and you wanna give them money personally.

2376
01:53:59,000 --> 01:53:59,840
Coming out.

2377
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:01,960
Yeah, just that's the way that they make their money.

2378
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,680
So buy Fugitive merch, buy Scourge merch,

2379
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:05,840
buy Power Trip stuff.

2380
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:07,000
Scourge has those cool shorts

2381
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:08,400
if they're still available.

2382
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:11,400
Oh, it's got the, who did the album artwork on?

2383
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:12,600
His name is Joe Chat.

2384
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:14,160
And he did the Fugitive artwork.

2385
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:19,160
He did a like limited edition album art for him,

2386
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:20,960
for the Maniac release.

2387
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:22,680
Oh man, his artwork is so cool.

2388
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:24,960
He's a really dope dude, really crazy style.

2389
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:26,720
His flyers and stuff, it's sick.

2390
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:29,840
But yeah, check out Bad, is it Bad Brands?

2391
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:30,680
Bad USA.

2392
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,760
Bad USA, did those shorts with Scourge.

2393
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:36,720
Yeah, so much sick shit out there.

2394
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:38,040
I love everything you do.

2395
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:38,880
Thanks man.

2396
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:39,720
So thanks for coming on.

2397
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:40,540
No, thanks for having me guys.

2398
01:54:40,540 --> 01:54:41,380
Great guy, great guest.

2399
01:54:41,380 --> 01:54:42,360
Welcome anytime.

2400
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:43,720
Anytime you're in the area,

2401
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,280
you wanna chop it up and talk violence,

2402
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,520
talk UFC or breakfast, have some tacos.

2403
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:50,160
We'll get Nick and Paul on the show

2404
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:52,440
and then we can do a big old.

2405
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:53,280
Just do it.

2406
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:54,120
Big old show.

2407
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:55,280
Yeah, that'd be fun.

2408
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,480
So if you haven't subscribed or liked us yet

2409
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:01,120
on any of your podcast platforms, please do so.

2410
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:02,600
It helps us out, costs you nothing,

2411
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,620
helps us out and get the word out.

2412
01:55:04,620 --> 01:55:07,220
We've got a website, we've got social media.

2413
01:55:07,220 --> 01:55:11,180
You can contact us on Gmail if you've got the Gmail.

2414
01:55:11,180 --> 01:55:15,140
You can call us at 682-294-0101.

2415
01:55:15,140 --> 01:55:17,220
Tell us all about how much you love our show

2416
01:55:17,220 --> 01:55:19,540
and love breakfast and violence.

2417
01:55:19,540 --> 01:55:21,680
Thank you Parker, appreciate you bringing coffee

2418
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:23,820
and hooking us up with Seth today.

2419
01:55:23,820 --> 01:55:24,980
Thank you for the tacos.

2420
01:55:24,980 --> 01:55:26,300
Yeah, thanks for everything guys.

2421
01:55:26,300 --> 01:55:29,420
Thank you Center for allowing us to be here and film.

2422
01:55:29,420 --> 01:55:30,360
Appreciate you.

2423
01:55:31,300 --> 01:55:33,300
Thank you for also giving me a job.

2424
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,160
Also quickly, I wanted to shout out Paul.

2425
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:39,460
Paul has this cool clothing company

2426
01:55:39,460 --> 01:55:42,620
that's called No Goods here in Fort Worth.

2427
01:55:42,620 --> 01:55:45,940
He stopped by yesterday, gave me this cool shirt, cool hat.

2428
01:55:45,940 --> 01:55:47,680
He's just a good guy in general.

2429
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:49,620
So shout out Paul, shout out No Goods.

2430
01:55:49,620 --> 01:55:50,900
Thank you for the shirt and the hat.

2431
01:55:50,900 --> 01:55:52,460
Appreciate all that stuff.

2432
01:55:52,460 --> 01:55:56,620
Also, this is just a personal thank you to David Bazan.

2433
01:55:56,620 --> 01:55:59,300
You played in Fort Worth last night and I was there

2434
01:55:59,300 --> 01:56:03,980
and everything you write changed me forever.

2435
01:56:03,980 --> 01:56:05,420
So thank you, Pedro the Lion.

2436
01:56:05,420 --> 01:56:07,300
Thank you, David Bazan, appreciate you.

2437
01:56:07,300 --> 01:56:10,620
So any final words before we wrap it up?

2438
01:56:10,620 --> 01:56:12,580
No, I'm gonna go take a nap before I go to work.

2439
01:56:12,580 --> 01:56:14,220
Okay, appreciate you guys.

2440
01:56:14,220 --> 01:56:16,500
Look forward to that fugitive LP coming out.

2441
01:56:16,500 --> 01:56:18,320
Where are you guys recording that, do you know?

2442
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:19,160
Not sure yet.

2443
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:20,000
Not sure yet.

2444
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:21,780
I know that I was looking at some older Power Trip stuff

2445
01:56:21,780 --> 01:56:24,020
and I realized that both of the records

2446
01:56:24,020 --> 01:56:25,380
were recorded in Philadelphia,

2447
01:56:25,380 --> 01:56:27,340
which has like a special place in my heart

2448
01:56:27,340 --> 01:56:28,180
because I'm a Philly guy.

2449
01:56:28,180 --> 01:56:31,220
So cool, thank you again, appreciate you.

2450
01:56:31,220 --> 01:56:32,060
Thank you so much, Seth.

2451
01:56:32,060 --> 01:56:33,240
And hope you guys have a good week.

2452
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:34,260
We'll see you next week.

2453
01:56:34,260 --> 01:56:35,700
Breakfast of Champions out.

2454
01:56:35,700 --> 01:56:37,520
Bye bye.

2455
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:39,280
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

2456
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:41,780
And I'm sorry, that I'm sorry.

2457
01:56:42,900 --> 01:56:46,900
And I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

2458
01:56:46,900 --> 01:56:47,740
I'm sorry.

2459
01:56:50,540 --> 01:56:52,040
And that's my day.

2460
01:56:52,040 --> 01:57:01,860
See you next week.

