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You're in big trouble, though, pal. I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast.

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You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?

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No.

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Hey, everybody. Welcome to Breakfast of Champions.

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I'm Renee Floyd, a co-host of this episode, season one, episode one, and introduce yourself, sir.

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My name's Parker. I am your other co-host on this journey of breakfast and champions.

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That's correct. So for those of you that have never heard us before, it's impossible. This is the first episode.

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But our podcast is all going to be about breakfast foods and violence.

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This episode, I'm sorry, this series was a brainchild of Parker. He had this idea and I thought, this is amazing.

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He is very involved in breakfast foods. I watch every violent thing I possibly can on the Internet.

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Movies, fights, that sort of thing. And I think people really need to know about this information.

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They need to know what the breakfast foods of champions are and also everyone's a champion and everybody enjoys breakfast.

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So let's find out some of these stories from these people that we just know and love that are around our neighborhood.

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So first things first, let's talk about a little bit of what we have here, donut-wise, this morning.

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We are going to try to review donuts, breakfast foods, pancakes, restaurants, everything like that.

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So Parker, there you go.

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So Parker, will you tell us a little bit about your love of breakfast just kind of initially?

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Yes. So I love all breakfast food. It's my favorite type of food. If I could eat it for all three meals, I wouldn't. Sometimes I do.

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Right now, let's talk about donuts.

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Sure. Yeah.

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Cool. So we got donuts in front of us.

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A big donut fan grew up eating lots of donuts. Central Illinois donuts. Shout out.

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Mellow cream. Today, we're going to eat some shiplies donuts, though.

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That's correct. I picked shiplies first. It is my personal favorite.

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I go to a chain and get donuts, donut. Personally, my family, my nuclear family at home, my kids and I, we have donuts every Sunday.

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We have done this for at least six years.

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And we have two shops in Weatherford that we toggle between Hudson Oaks Donut Shop and Seuz.

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Seuz is our go-to. Seuz is a lovely elderly lady that has a shop right on Main Street across the street from the 9th grade center up there.

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And she just, she's so cute. She has the best aprons. They look homemade almost.

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And so, yeah, in Texas in particular, there are some chains, but there are some really good mom and pop donut shops.

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Did you grow up with any of those?

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Well, so I didn't grow up in Texas.

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I know you did, but I just meant, did you grow up with mom and pop donuts?

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Yes.

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So like in Springfield, Illinois, where I grew up, we had Mellow Cream, which I just gave a shout out to.

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They were like the local small chain. And that was like the go-to.

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We also had, I believe we had a Dunkin Donuts. We didn't have Krispy Kreme up there.

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But Mellow Cream was like the go-to. It was family owned and local to that region.

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So are you familiar with Texas's like mom and pop like donuts and how they are, I guess, I don't want to be insensitive,

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but there's a lot of Asian communities that are owned and operated and are operating those donut shops.

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Yes. Yeah. That was my first notice when I moved to Texas because in Springfield, we didn't have like pigs in a blanket or collochies,

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which I take. We'll get into that later.

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Yeah, that'll be a completely different episode.

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But yeah, I remember the first few shops owned to their all mom and pop and they were generally Asian owned.

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And actually the shop that is directly behind my house is K-Doughnut for Korean donut.

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Right.

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It's a husband and wife that own it. They're there. I see them get there about 2 a.m. every morning and start doing it.

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They open at 5 a.m. and they've been there for years and years and they're awesome.

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So I did want to touch on that, particularly on another episode, but I did want to shout that out.

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Texas's their towns are pretty unique for having a mom and pop donut shop that's usually run by local Asian families.

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And we love those shops. Those are our favorite shops.

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That's why I shouted out Suze and sort of. So let's go on to shiples here.

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I picked shiples. They are normally enjoyed warm.

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These are not warm. That just got these about half an hour ago.

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I figured when we grade donuts, we could talk about this back and forth.

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But I wanted to get just a variety of donuts that they had, but I figured there is probably three donuts that we have to try if we try a shop.

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One is the classic glaze. You just have to always have a classic glaze.

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Yeah, that's your baseline consensus.

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The other one I think you have to have is a strawberry or chocolate sprinkle of some sort.

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Because you have to judge their frosting and also their sprinkle ratio.

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And then I always go with a cake donut or an old fashioned donut.

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Absolutely.

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Because, you know, if they're not doing the first one right, then I just, you know, the zany ones that I brought today, this one is a cherry popping Skittles freeze dried candy donut.

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I am obsessed with freeze dried candy at the moment.

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Me too. My kids turned me on to it.

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I have an order coming up to the shop later.

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I send black gato candies, $25 a week, and they bring it up to me in a little black, almost like porno bag to the shop.

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Sounds like a drug deal.

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It's very much a high fruit toast corn syrup back alley drug deal.

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Got to get that fixed.

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Today's order will include caramel apple taffy.

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Caramel apple taffy, red hot cinnamon discs.

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And then, of course, I had to go.

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Oh, gee, Skittles.

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Yeah, you can't go wrong with the skittles.

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So freeze dried candy is my issue right now.

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And then this one is something I've never heard of before.

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It's called a bullseye.

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It's just a regular chocolate glazed donut, but then they like fill it with cream and then put sprinkles on it.

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I'd never heard of or seen somebody filling the hole with cream with cream.

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Family friendly to an extent.

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I mean, use your imagination and what this brown donut looks like with white cream on the inside of bullseye.

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It's a bullseye.

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And then lastly, you know, I don't know how you feel about jelly filled donuts.

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Are you a jelly guy or not a jelly guy?

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I am a cream filled donut.

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Cream filled donut.

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OK, but a good jelly donut.

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Like you can't really go wrong with a good jelly.

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I in my tears, it would be cream filled first and then maybe like a lemon custard filled and then a jelly filled.

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I am not a big filled guy.

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There is one donut shop that does a pretty good filled in my opinion.

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And it's because I just have such a massive sweet tooth and it's crispy cream.

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They have a chocolate iced donut and they fill it with like white frosting.

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And it is just like if you want to go into a diabetes coma, you just grab one of those.

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And so do you want to try one of these?

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You want to get into these?

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Yeah, let's get into it.

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So I say we're going to come up with a grading scale.

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We are, you know, probably going to go with something like sweetness maybe is as one.

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I would say texture.

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And then I would say maybe like overall presentation would be a good a good grading scale as well.

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So also something I think we should get into.

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And this is just my nerdiness and we'll get into my nerdiness later.

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But when you bite into it, does it spring back or does it go flat?

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That's something I look at it every donut.

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Is that yeast content?

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It is the rise and if it if it's over approved or under approved.

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OK, that's important stuff.

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So let's go ahead and split this glazed right off the bat.

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So that away like we'll lady in the tree.

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OK, so here's a lady in the tramps split right down the middle.

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OK, OK, very flaky.

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First of all, so full disclosure, this is my first time ever eating a shipply's donut.

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This is my thousandth time eating a shipply's donut.

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This donut while you're eating because I just went ahead and went whole hog and put it on my mouth.

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This donut reminds me of Sunday School Church.

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This is like the dozen of donuts that your Sunday School teacher gets and brings to church.

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And they got them at like 6 30 on their way in.

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And you've been waiting, you know, it's 9 30 now you're all broken up in your classrooms.

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And these are that that donut to me.

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What are your thoughts on the sweetness of the donut?

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The sweetness is perfect. It's not like too overpowering.

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The glaze is not too sweet.

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The donut itself is not too sweet.

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Yeah, the sweetness factor spot on.

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I think that shipply's does it right.

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Like you were saying, if you take a look at this glaze here,

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it's almost like there's not any glaze on the bottom of this this lemon filled donut.

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Let me flip it over here.

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And it's almost like their glaze is thinner and a little bit more runnier.

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So if you know, if it sits in the box, clearly you can see it.

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It kind of comes off. It also flakes off really well.

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So as you're eating it, you're not just getting full glaze.

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Sweetness.

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What did you want to talk about? You said the spring back.

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Right. So how was the spring back on that donut?

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It didn't have a whole lot of spring back.

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When I bit into it, it stayed kind of pinched.

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It didn't have a whole lot of like airy pockets in it.

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So in my mind, it I don't think it was under proofed.

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I think I should get more than likely to just use a premade mix and just throw it together.

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They're pumping out donuts fast.

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Yeah. Like it was good, but the texture wasn't my favorite texture.

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Agreed. I'm not I'm not impressed by this round of donuts.

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I've had better shipplies, but I can see just looking at this donut right here.

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It also looks like this may not have risen properly or correctly, but I agree with you there.

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The other thing I did want to mention was we talked about sweetness.

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Overall presentation. Anything crazy out of the ordinary.

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I think this one is the only one that kind of blew my mind that I had just like I saw it in the case and I was like,

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well, we have to try that.

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Yeah. That one, the one with the freeze dried Skittles is the one with the best presentation.

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The bullseye has a nice presentation too.

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You know, that chocolate hole filled with cream.

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Yes.

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And the strawberry looks like a classic strawberry sprinkle.

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I thought Homer Simpson would eat Homer Simpson.

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Exactly. That is the gold standard.

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Would Homer Simpson eat this? All right, cool.

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I say we give this blueberry old fashioned a little try.

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Let's do a little bit smaller, a little bit more dense,

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and I'm only going to have like a smaller corner of it.

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I think let's see it.

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Blueberry cake is probably my second favorite.

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Top tier for sure.

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A lot of chewing dead air.

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Tastes kind of artificial.

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It does. I was about to say it tastes a little.

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Tangy, almost as if it wasn't made this morning.

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Yeah, I definitely get that.

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The texture is great.

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Yes, the textures great.

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The sweetness is on point.

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The overall flavor, though, is not the best.

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Take. Yeah.

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Tastes like somebody.

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It's like almost you ever like box blueberry donuts,

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where I would like the second direction is like.

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Drain the blueberries.

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Yes.

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It's like somebody drained the blueberries into this donut mix.

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It's like if you gave AI directions on.

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What does a blueberry taste like here are the parameters to hit.

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And then it created blueberry flavor.

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Not my favorite blueberry cake donut I've ever had.

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Any other ones you want to care to try?

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I think we have to try the strawberry.

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Just because I'm sure principle for homers sake.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So let's give it a shot.

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And just for everyone at home, we are splitting these by hand,

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lady in the tramp style.

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We are crossing our.

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We're intertwining our arms looking longingly in the other's eyes as we

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start on one end of each donut.

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I'm going to let you go.

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I'll talk a minute and then you let me go and then you talk about it.

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So there's not just that.

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So I'm looking at this donut right now and there is a lot of the longer

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sprinkles, not the tiny dot sprinkles, but like more of what if you were on

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the East Coast, you would say like Jimmy's and shout out Jimmy.

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Shout out to you, Jimmy.

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Also, I'm noticing I'm looking inside the donut and there is a big air

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pocket on the bottom and not so much any throughout interspersed.

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Can you see that there?

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There's a huge.

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So again, we're talking about, you know, proofing, we're talking about

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yeast content.

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We're talking about the rise, you know, and so maybe like, like, like

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Parker was saying, this particular batch was maybe rushed or pre-made or,

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but it's just, in my opinion, if I open up a donut, that's kind of a weird

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sight.

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I'm going to take a bite.

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Parker's going to top.

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All right.

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So my first thought on it, the sweetness content, it is not overly

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sweet.

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I really appreciate that about these chipleads donuts.

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That's been my favorite thing about them.

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I didn't get a lot of strawberry flavor on it.

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It, I get sweetness, but not a lot of strawberry, not artificial, not fresh,

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just not much strawberry flavor there.

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The sprinkles are good.

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The jimmies, again, the texture, it is somewhere in between a yeast

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donut and a cake donut.

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It's not super airy and tangy like you would expect from a yeast donut,

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but it's not as dense as a cake donut.

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I'm going to be in total agreeance here.

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I am going to also say that I haven't had chipleads in probably five or six

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years, maybe even eight or nine years now.

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I will say they're hard to find in the area.

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I had to travel to Crowley to this particular location.

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The other one is a little bit further east of Fort Worth.

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They used to be a little bit closer to everywhere, but they are dwindling.

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I think that they're probably experiencing some of that dwindling

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because clearly the recipes have changed since last time I've been.

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They may be feeling the, the, the herd of COVID, maybe, you know, the,

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the herd of inflation, the way that everybody else is.

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It's not a Mandela effect.

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I'm not remembering something different.

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These donuts definitely taste different than whenever the last time that I,

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that I was there.

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And that's kind of why we're doing this podcast is because we want to talk

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about where can you get great donuts?

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Where can you, do you remember the last time you had a great donut?

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And so that, that kind of is a great segue into like, let's do some host introductions.

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I know we kind of dove right into this podcast, but let's grade these donuts.

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Let's give them a, you know, like maybe we'll do some tiers.

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You're like a video game S tier, eight tier, or we can just kind of do a simple

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five star rating system or an out of 10.

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However you, how many holes do we give it out of what holes?

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Five, a dozen holes.

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Oh, that's a lot.

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A half dozen holes, half dozen holes.

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So six holes.

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I would say on a scale of one to six holes, I would say sweetness.

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I'm going to give it a straight five.

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Yeah, I agree with that.

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Five holes.

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It looks like these things would be sugar shock systems, but the glaze is thin.

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The, the flavoring is artificial and not as in your face as, as you might think.

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So I'm going to say six, what are you, I'm sorry, five.

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What do you think?

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Sugar wise.

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I think I'm going to go with a five to I was really expecting these to be overly sweet.

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Like sugar rush immediately.

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And I am pleasantly surprised that they're not like my teeth are not aching right now.

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The mountain deal.

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I'll take care of that later.

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My body's ready.

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Okay.

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Spring back out of six.

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What do you think?

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One.

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Yeah.

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I was thinking one or two there, maybe a one and a half.

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There was the thing that saving grace on spring back was the cake donut.

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And that one doesn't have any yeast in it.

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So it's a little bit denser, so it's not going to have any kind of spring back.

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It's not going to have those airy pockets.

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Like I'm looking at that strawberry one right now.

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It is still pinched flat from where we.

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Exactly.

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So yeah, shiplies, maybe train your employees to prove just a little bit longer.

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Maybe that could help on spring back.

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I don't know.

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No, no judgments from the non chef of donuts over here.

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We had legit have an expert who crashed for me.

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So the last one we were talking about is just overall presentation out of six.

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What do you what do you feel?

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I'm going to go like a four and a half, especially that cherry.

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I forget the name of cherry one with the freeze your eyes.

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Skittles.

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Yeah, that one cherry popping daddy and the bullseye.

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Like if I walked into the shop and I saw those and even the strawberry one looked great,

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like those are going to look great in the case or eye catching.

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You're going to sell them just because they look nice.

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I like hopping on a trend as far as like a corporate kind of chain restaurant

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seeing that like.

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Tick tock is important, so let's throw a donut out there that kind of maybe you'll get like

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the teen tween and below market.

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That's already seeing these on tick tock.

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Absolutely.

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My kids would freak out.

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I've got a nine year old and a 14 year old.

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They would love something with freeze red candy on it.

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Perfect.

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So overall presentation, you said four and a half.

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Yeah, I think four and a half.

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I'm going to agree with you there.

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I'm going to go solid four and a half presentation.

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Also, let's take a look at this box.

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I always like to look at the box that they come in, especially if they're not just a generic white box.

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Oh, yeah, I'm a huge nerd for branding.

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Yeah.

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So again, this has changed.

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This is kind of a newer rework on the older logo.

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But these are classic colors, classic fonts for donuts.

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We've got an orange box with a brownish gold donut on the front that says shiplies.

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Now, what do you make of this D.O. apostrophe nuts?

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Like is that do nuts?

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Do nuts.

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Yeah, I see do nuts as well.

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Anyway, I give the overall presentation a four and a half solid old school company.

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I'm looking forward to maybe revisiting shiplies in the future.

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Another location maybe just to kind of maybe see if we can get a better representation.

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But moving on, let's talk about our lives.

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You mentioned you have kids.

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So let's talk a little bit about your life if that's cool.

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I'll kind of kind of throw you some questions about your life.

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I don't want to give out too much personal information on a pod just yet.

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But if you could share a little bit about how old you are, maybe your living situation and kind of where you're at in life.

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So yeah, well, just a reintroduction.

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This is Parker speaking.

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I am 36.

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I got a wife.

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I got two kids.

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Like I mentioned earlier, nine and 14.

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I live in the greater Fort Worth, Texas area.

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Been here for a while.

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Yeah.

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That's nice. Do you have any animals?

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I got a few animals.

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Yeah, we got three dogs.

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Got a cat.

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He's a real asshole.

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He's really fucking cute though.

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And then my daughter has a pink toad tarantula.

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Oh, wow.

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Named Gwen after Gwen Stacy, of course.

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Oh, OK.

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And then we also have two birds named Mary Kate and Ashley.

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I love that.

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Heather's idea.

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So you you've been a veteran of the music scene for a while.

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That's kind of how we connected.

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We'll talk about that in the next episode more.

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But we connected because we play in a band together called unspell.

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Parker was based in that band.

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He took over my spot whenever we lost our guitar player and I took over for guitars.

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So how long have you been playing music?

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Seriously, since like 2007.

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So that's what?

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17 years roughly.

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I dabbled in music since the late 90s, but my first band started in 2007.

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Very cool. Very cool.

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Do you remember like your gateway into playing in bands?

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Well, like was there a particular show or band that you love that just made you go?

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I have to pick up an instrument.

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Black Sabbath was my my dad played guitar.

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My dad bought me my first guitar and bass there.

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Dan Electro guitar Dan Electro bass and he taught me Iron Man on bass.

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I was like, oh, this is easy.

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I can do this.

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But the first like in high school, I had friends who played in ska bands.

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I was a, you know, really popular in the early 2000s.

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For sure.

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Lots of ska.

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Wait, ska is still not popular.

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I mean, ska is not popular now.

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It's coming back.

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Yeah.

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Fifth wave, 200th wave.

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But I had friends playing in like a hardcore adjacent bands.

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The big one that all my friends were in was called nine volt invasion.

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They took cues from bands like the Locust and blood brothers.

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And that was kind of like, oh, whoa, this music is wild and it's attainable to do.

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And so some of those guys, when we started our first band Travis from nine volt invasion,

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he and I started the first band I was ever in.

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That's what's up.

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I love those names.

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Now let me ask you this.

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Do you have a particular breakfast routine that you follow or are you kind of free for

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lately?

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I've been eating oatmeal every single morning for breakfast.

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That's solid.

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Yeah.

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Just oatmeal and a protein shake.

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And I'm good to go.

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That's what's up.

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Sometimes I'll throw in yogurt.

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If like, if I worked out that morning, need a little bit of extra protein, besides the

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protein shake, I'll throw in like some yogurt or something.

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That's, that's great.

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Do you guys, your kids, do they, do they have a protein shake?

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Do they, do they do breakfast or do they kind of just grab and go in the morning?

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My daughter, it depends on the day.

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Some mornings she's all, if it's cold out, she wants oatmeal.

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If it's hot out, she wants cereal.

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But some days she doesn't want anything.

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My son, he wants like an omelet and fresh fruit every morning.

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That's high taste.

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Yes.

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Yeah, I love that.

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So what was your introduction into cooking?

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Do you remember like, was it like, was it a family member or was it like just a circumstance

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that kind of got you into like being a chef?

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Well, the chef thing I fell into.

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But cooking is something that growing up breakfast food.

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My grandma, I grew up in Illinois and my family lived in Oklahoma.

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And so I'd go spend summers with my grandparents.

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My grandma made breakfast every morning, usually biscuits and gravy, which is my favorite breakfast food.

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And so ate lots of breakfast with my grandparents, you know, eggs, bacon, biscuits and gravy.

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That was like the standard go to at home.

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My mom didn't cook too much.

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We ate out a lot.

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Both of my parents worked full time.

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We didn't have a lot of time.

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I was also in sports.

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So at home, it was usually just cereal, cereal for breakfast if I ate breakfast at all.

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But as far as cooking went, I was in like seventh grade.

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This was probably like 1997 or 1998.

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We got the food channel for the first time.

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And I saw Emeril Lagasse and her food network, Emeril and like all those guys.

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And I started watching chefs on TV and I was like, oh, man, that looks like so much fun.

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I was also a very picky eater before this.

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So I was seeing all these foods I'd never heard of because again, the internet wasn't really existing back then.

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Like it was there, but we didn't have it at home.

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So this was my first foray into like, oh, there's all these foods besides like cheeseburgers and chicken nuggets.

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And like, I remember the first thing I saw, which once I get into where I've been the last few years, it's going to be funny.

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But I remember seeing them eating chicken livers on TV, like deep fried chicken livers.

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And I was like, I always thought that was gross, but those look delicious.

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And we went to this place in Springfield every Friday night with some family friends called Westwood's best steak in Springfield.

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Little like dive bar type place.

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And I saw they had chicken livers and gizzards on the menu and I was like, I'm ordering that.

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And again, been a picky eater for the last 12, 13 years.

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My mom also a very picky eater nearly threw up at the table as I ate these chicken livers.

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I scarfed him down.

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I thought it was the best thing.

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And then basically from there, it was like, OK, I need to learn to cook.

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I need to see what these guys are doing.

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I want to find all these foods.

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I want to try everything.

474
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Again, living in Springfield, Illinois, not a lot of options.

475
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,000
It was mostly bar food because it was cold most of the year.

476
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,000
So I went to the bar or it was chain restaurants.

477
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Sure.

478
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:24,000
So it was that ratatouille moment where you like put those things together and your brain just exploded was the chicken chicken livers and gizzards.

479
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Exactly.

480
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,000
I love that for you.

481
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000
So a little bit about me.

482
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,000
We've done your your intro.

483
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,000
I'll just kind of go a little bit quickly about me.

484
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,000
I am 40. I'll be 41 this year.

485
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000
I too have children.

486
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,000
I've got four.

487
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:45,000
I've got a 20 year old, a six, a 15 year old, a nine year old and a six year old.

488
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:51,000
We've got a pretty big cross section of young to old.

489
00:27:51,000 --> 00:28:00,000
I work at Center, which is a local shoe store and like kind of like street street wear lifestyle shop.

490
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000
I've been there just coming up on a year now.

491
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Before that, I actually was working at a few different coffee shops.

492
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:20,000
I've done a lot of work at coffee shops and that's kind of part of my interest in breakfast food is the fact that coffee is a big breakfast foundational piece.

493
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,000
And so breakfast tacos at coffee shops.

494
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,000
Yes.

495
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,000
My first job actually ever in life was at the coffee bean area in the Hulun Mall.

496
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,000
I worked there when I was 16.

497
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000
I've worked for a lot of chain coffees.

498
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000
I've worked for your Starbucks.

499
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,000
I've worked at a Vodka here in town.

500
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,000
I've worked at a smaller place called Goldtree, which I love Goldtree coffee.

501
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000
They were the last shop I worked for.

502
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:57,000
I actually just opened up a new location. It is in the same building as Chipped over here off Berry.

503
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:03,000
Chipped is a local place that does some very cool stuff.

504
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000
They do what they call cookie nachos.

505
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,000
Hot cookie nachos.

506
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,000
That's right.

507
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Their truck before they had their brick and mortar, their truck would pull up to the pool in my neighborhood and just like set up.

508
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,000
That was the first time I ever had Chipped hot cookie nachos.

509
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,000
If you don't know what hot cookie nachos are, if you've never had Chipped before, please look them up online.

510
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,000
Please go stop by and see them.

511
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,000
They're also all over like DoorDash, Grubhub, stuff like that.

512
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000
So get you some hot cookie nachos.

513
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,000
They're pretty good.

514
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:39,000
And if you can go into the shop in that very same location as Goldtree coffee, they make great coffee, great energy drinks using green energy.

515
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000
And they've got some great stuff.

516
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Great breakfast foods there.

517
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:50,000
So I've kind of been in and around breakfast foods just about my entire adult life, working life.

518
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:57,000
I've done a lot of different jobs, but particularly I've kind of kept myself available because I'm a performer.

519
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,000
I too have been playing music for the better part of the last 20 years or so.

520
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000
I play guitar.

521
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000
I DJ.

522
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,000
I've got a big event coming up.

523
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,000
I'm excited about.

524
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,000
I just try to be as creatively open as possible to collaboration with other people.

525
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:22,000
I've got some really great friends in the area that are also artists that I hope to bring onto the podcast someday and kind of just talk about their breakfast lives.

526
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,000
But I'm going to be 100% honest.

527
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,000
We are 30 minutes into this podcast and I'm dropping a truth bomb on you.

528
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000
I don't eat breakfast.

529
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,000
I do not eat breakfast.

530
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,000
Wow.

531
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000
And it is the most important meal of the day.

532
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000
I know.

533
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:53,000
You know, what's been crazy is the last, I would say, I don't know, maybe like a six to 10 years somewhere in there, maybe eight years or so.

534
00:30:53,000 --> 00:31:03,000
I have just not really been a big breakfast eater and I have just not been a big eater until about, I would say two or three in the afternoon.

535
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,000
But what I do love is I love cereal.

536
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Cereal has been a staple in my life for forever.

537
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000
Mount Rushmore of cereal.

538
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000
Oh, we have to do that episode.

539
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000
Right now I would say Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

540
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,000
Classic.

541
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,000
I would say Raisin Bran for me.

542
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,000
I love Raisin Bran.

543
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,000
It's so good.

544
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Maybe the Raisin Bran crunched it like spice it up a little bit.

545
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,000
That bran keeps you regular.

546
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,000
Yeah.

547
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,000
There is a Fruit Loops with Marshmallows that I'm a huge fan of.

548
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,000
And then I would say Apple Jacks.

549
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Apple Jacks.

550
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,000
We just had a huge box of Apple Jacks that we just went through and I just, I'm a cereal guy.

551
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Seinfeld like informed a lot of my childhood and so I thought every adult should have it all of their favorite cereal on hand at any given time.

552
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000
We keep at least two to three different kinds of cereals in our house at a time.

553
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Huge cereal fan.

554
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,000
Like I said, my family also does donuts every Sunday.

555
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:08,000
We are a huge, probably maybe once every other week, once a week we try to do breakfast for dinner.

556
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000
Breaner.

557
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,000
Yes.

558
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:17,000
That's another big thing in our lives is, you know, a good breakfast sandwich for dinner or my family loves Cracker Barrel.

559
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000
They do pancakes and all that stuff.

560
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,000
They, you know, they're a big Cracker Barrel family.

561
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
So that's kind of where I'm at.

562
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,000
Right now I am working.

563
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000
I'm DJing.

564
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000
I'm playing guitar.

565
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
I'm hanging out with friends.

566
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000
You mentioned your grandma.

567
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,000
My grandma just passed away and I just wanted to give her a huge shout out.

568
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Her funeral is actually going to be on Monday and so I'm going to be out of town for that.

569
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:51,000
But another huge influence in my life when it comes to breakfast, like you said, you go to grandma's house for the summer.

570
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
She always had breakfast for us.

571
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Always.

572
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,000
I mean, just, it didn't matter, you know, what had happened the night before the day of.

573
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000
We're going to have a full belly at grandma's house.

574
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:08,000
So just shout out to grandma's shout out to them always just, you know, fill in our bellies with with good, good breakfast.

575
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:16,000
Is your family just straight up white bread or do you have any sort of like ethnic ethnicity to you?

576
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000
I like to tell people I'm painfully white.

577
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Painfully white.

578
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:31,000
My dad's side, we gone back a few hundred years and it's all like Dutch and Scandinavian and my aunt went back hundreds of years on my mom's side.

579
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:37,000
And it is all English, French, Scandinavian.

580
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
So yeah, all just as white as can be.

581
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:45,000
But in each of those, there is cuisine that is unique.

582
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000
So, you know, like you said, French cuisine, Scandinavian cuisine, Dutch cuisine.

583
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Boiled fish.

584
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Boil everything in England.

585
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,000
That's my grandfather, his grandmother was like straight off the boat from England.

586
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,000
So that is like the closest high.

587
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,000
And the most recent seems to be English.

588
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:08,000
So yeah, boiled everything and beans and blood pudding.

589
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,000
So I'm, I'm half Hispanic, half Mexican.

590
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:18,000
So my grandparents, you know, are they they love chorizo con huevo in the morning.

591
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000
My grandfather still puts a pot of beans on just about every single day.

592
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:29,000
And so it would not be, you know, anything for us to get manudo on Sundays before church.

593
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,000
I love all that, you know, Hispanic Mexican breakfast cuisine.

594
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,000
It really is one of those things that, you know, where my normal is not to eat breakfast.

595
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,000
But if I'm in town, you better believe I'm partaking in all that good stuff.

596
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,000
So that's that's the best.

597
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,000
My wife is also Hispanic.

598
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,000
So yeah, lots of beans, fresh tortillas.

599
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,000
Yeah, great.

600
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,000
Almost like a full, full fledged English breakfast, but Mexican style, right?

601
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Love it.

602
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:06,000
So let's talk a little bit about you and kind of we hope we aim to have different chefs

603
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:13,000
and people that are involved in cooking, especially in the local area in the Fort Worth area.

604
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:19,000
And I'm just blessed to have a co host that happens to tick both of those boxes.

605
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000
He's a, he's a local guy.

606
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:32,000
He is a chef, a cooker, just someone that is just moving and grooving when it comes to the local food scene.

607
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,000
Recently, he was at Spiral Diner.

608
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000
He just opened up Dreamboat Donut.

609
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:45,000
They're celebrating their one year birthday, which it doesn't even seem like it's been a year since you guys opened up.

610
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,000
It has been a blur, but yeah, I can't believe it has been one year.

611
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,000
So May of 2023 is when we opened Dreamboat.

612
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,000
We started working on it in August of 2020.

613
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,000
So that does that also mean Maiden is almost a year older or.

614
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,000
Maiden opened, I think it was the very end of May.

615
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,000
So we also started working on Maiden in 2019, like late 2019.

616
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,000
Wow.

617
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:21,000
So if you're not familiar with the Fort Worth area, these restaurants that we're all speaking of are vegan restaurants and they're not just vegan restaurants.

618
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,000
They are their premier vegan restaurants of the area.

619
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,000
I mean, if you.

620
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,000
Yeah, Spiral Diner is known nationally.

621
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Right.

622
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,000
So, lots of national accolades.

623
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Amy McNutt, who opened Spiral, she opened it in 2002.

624
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:44,000
So Spiral Diner has been around for 22 years this August, which is crazy considering we live in Cowtown.

625
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Correct.

626
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,000
And separately, I, you know, I've never worked at Spiral.

627
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,000
I've enjoyed Spiral.

628
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
I've gone through my vegan phases for sure.

629
00:36:52,000 --> 00:37:05,000
But every time a famous person that I'm kind of in their purview or aware of comes to town and they just are even remotely vegan, they're coming to Spiral.

630
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,000
Yeah.

631
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:15,000
We had a location in Dallas and this, this is didn't age as well, but super talented cake decorator that worked at Spiral for a long time named Arlene.

632
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,000
She's now in Austin doing zucchini kill.

633
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,000
If you're in Austin, check out zucchini kill.

634
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,000
They're awesome.

635
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:29,000
But Arlene decorated a cake for Morrissey because he played Dallas on his birthday and he's vegan, a very famous vegan.

636
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,000
Shia LaBeouf.

637
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,000
Painfully vegan.

638
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Painfully vegan, painfully right wing.

639
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,000
But Shia LaBeouf is eating at Spiral Diner.

640
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,000
I think we catered for AFI one time when they came through.

641
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,000
Steve Oh is a big fan.

642
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Also very vegan and into pain.

643
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:54,000
I kind of rub shoulders with Felipe Esparza and his crew.

644
00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:08,000
They are Hispanic, Mexican comedians out of the California area and they've come to town a couple of times and we've kind of gotten together pre-show and they definitely have gone to Spiral, have talked about Spiral.

645
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000
He has been vegan for quite some time.

646
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:19,000
And so even on the road, people try to keep their vegan diets as close to possible.

647
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000
It's one of those things where it is a lifestyle.

648
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,000
It is one of those things where you've got to seek it out if you're on the road.

649
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:33,000
And so having something like that and DFW has just been one of those things where it is a destination for people that are vegan.

650
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000
It is a destination for people that are good food.

651
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:42,000
And it's also just kind of been a local staple of the area that you and I work and live in.

652
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:47,000
And so do you want to talk about your time there or you want to talk about Dreamboat a little bit?

653
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Yeah, I'll do a quick overview.

654
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,000
Yeah, brief. I'll keep it brief.

655
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,000
But yeah, so I started at Spiral Diner 13 years ago.

656
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Washing dishes is my second job.

657
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000
I did a bunch of stuff there.

658
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,000
Yeah, yeah, did a whole bunch of stuff there in management.

659
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Eventually became a sous chef.

660
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:21,000
And then when James Johnston went on to pursue a film career, I was promoted to the executive chef, handled all the recipes, all the ordering.

661
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
A lot of the day to day stuff, basically everything it takes to run that restaurant.

662
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,000
I have done in some capacity.

663
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:35,000
I helped open Maiden, which is a fine dining vegan restaurant is the first of its kind in all of Texas.

664
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:42,000
If you're familiar with Eleven Madison Park in New York, it's a similar dining experience to that.

665
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:48,000
But more affordable, but same essence.

666
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,000
It was kind of the idea.

667
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:55,000
And it's funny because we've been working on Maiden for at least a year before Eleven Madison Park decided to go vegan.

668
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,000
Eleven Madison Park is a Michelin starred restaurant in New York.

669
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000
Really awesome place.

670
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:10,000
And then Dreamboat Donuts was originally going to be called snow nuts, snow cones and donuts.

671
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
It started as a joke.

672
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:21,000
And it ended up as a the first all vegan donut shop and ice cream shop in DFW.

673
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:27,000
We they use all organic flour, sugar and ingredients and everything.

674
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000
Try and source the highest quality stuff.

675
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
I created all of the recipes for that.

676
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
All of the day to day stuff.

677
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000
Open that from the ground up.

678
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000
I love that.

679
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,000
What's your favorite donut at Dreamboat?

680
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Strawberry Sprinkled.

681
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:48,000
I thought for sure you're going to say the J and J, but the JJ is a close second.

682
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,000
And that the JJ, I guess we can give a little bit of history on the sure.

683
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Yeah, I'll try to do without crying.

684
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000
You can cry. It's OK. We're here.

685
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,000
Yeah.

686
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:05,000
So the JJ the JJ is named after Renee and I's dear friend Jeremy Joel who passed away in 2020.

687
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Jeremy worked at Spiral Diner for a very long time.

688
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,000
He was also a staple in the Fort Worth art scene.

689
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:21,000
He really helped along with, you know, like J Wilkinson and a handful of other people really put the Fort Worth art scene on the map nationally.

690
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,000
For sure.

691
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:30,000
One of the funniest guys I have ever met close friends with like his kids are around the same age as my kids.

692
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000
So they kind of grew up together.

693
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,000
Amber is one of the best people.

694
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:41,000
And so yeah, we like close family connections, work connections, everything.

695
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,000
But yeah, he passed away.

696
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,000
And so I wanted to put a donut on the menu to pay honor to him.

697
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:53,000
And food, you don't know it has a donut called the ODB.

698
00:41:53,000 --> 00:42:00,000
And if anyone knows Jeremy, they know that he loves Wu Tang and he is kind of he was Fort Worth's ODB.

699
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
The man also loved donuts.

700
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,000
That is a direct quote from Amber when I asked her about putting the JJ on the menu.

701
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:12,000
So it is a peanut butter frosted donut with Oreos, chocolate ganache and peanuts.

702
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:20,000
And I mean, it's probably one of the top top 10 things I probably ever put in my mouth in this area for sure.

703
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Love that. Thank you.

704
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Yeah.

705
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,000
So yeah, we'll we'll try those on a future episode.

706
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,000
Yeah, well, we'll definitely.

707
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:37,000
Did you have any donuts that you didn't get on the menu that you really wanted to get on the menu at Dreamboat like any crazy ideas that just didn't make it to the final cut?

708
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:44,000
I had a list of over 100 donuts and I think I maybe did 20 to 25.

709
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,000
But all of those notes have been passed on to the next person.

710
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,000
And so I'm no longer with Spiral Diner or Dreamboat.

711
00:42:52,000 --> 00:43:03,000
I'm on to other things, but all of my notes I had a I had a running document that was 25 pages long of everything I ever did for Dreamboat.

712
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,000
And all of those notes were passed on to others.

713
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,000
And so they're still doing really cool, awesome flavors.

714
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:15,000
Danny, who is like in charge of all that, she's awesome and she's got all kinds of cool ideas.

715
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,000
So I'm sure like more to come.

716
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Yes, more, more cool stuff to come.

717
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:28,000
That's one thing I did want to reiterate now that you're no longer with these places that we can expect them to continue on.

718
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:34,000
And we can expect we can expect to continue great things from them as far as what they're doing.

719
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Just because you're gone doesn't mean that you're you're taking anything away from that.

720
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,000
But but we want to celebrate both of y'all.

721
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:49,000
Yeah, you you individually and the next things that you have going on but also all of these places that you touched because you guys, you know, you guys are kind of intertwined in your story.

722
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,000
But now you're kind of moving on to different paths.

723
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,000
And so please still go go visit Dreamboat Donuts.

724
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Go go have some great vegan food at Maiden.

725
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:08,000
If you ever need, even if you're not vegan, if you ever just need a fancy date night that is just like kind of out of the box out of the regular.

726
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000
I mean, it's it's not like you're regular.

727
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Let's go to the Riyadh and sit on the rooftop and we're gonna have a good old time.

728
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000
It is it's a different experience.

729
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,000
But that's something that people need around here is just the the the different.

730
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Absolutely.

731
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:27,000
And with Maiden, it's like think of it as going to the theater or going to the ballet or opera.

732
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:33,000
Like it is if you do the full eight courses, you're going to be there for two hours minimum.

733
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,000
It's yeah.

734
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,000
And it is a full presentation.

735
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Every plate is a work of art.

736
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:44,000
Amy McNutt, the founder, she has put a lot of time and effort into crafting what every single plate is.

737
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:52,000
So really, like, yeah, if you're need a night out and go check out Maiden, there's also other options if you don't want to.

738
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,000
If you're not trying to break the bank, you there's bar options or cocktail options.

739
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,000
There's a four course that is a little bit easier on the wallet.

740
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,000
And there's also a tea time that's like a true British tea time.

741
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,000
That's crazy.

742
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,000
I didn't know that.

743
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,000
Yeah.

744
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,000
And they do that on the weekends.

745
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,000
I love that.

746
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,000
If you're not trying to be out late at night and go for like brunch time.

747
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,000
That's awesome.

748
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Now, what are your thoughts on brunch because we are breakfast of champions?

749
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,000
Are you in favor of brunch or pro brunch?

750
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Okay, pro brunch.

751
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,000
Okay.

752
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,000
So some people, they don't like the the combining of the foods, you know, they're they're very much.

753
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:36,000
I don't know if they just like McDonald's told them like no breakfast after 1030, but big daddy.

754
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,000
Yeah.

755
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,000
I'm a huge brunch fan myself.

756
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:46,000
Not a big drinker, but I do, you know, celebrate those that like to tie one on at breakfast slash lunchtime.

757
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000
I think that that is fun.

758
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,000
It's it's completely acceptable behavior.

759
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000
Just not too much, you know what I mean?

760
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,000
Yeah.

761
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,000
I mean, I get the appeal.

762
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:03,000
I also don't drink, but I totally I understand why you would want a mimosa or why you would want a Bloody Mary,

763
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:08,000
especially if, you know, it's Sunday morning and you were partying the night before, you know,

764
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,000
hair the dog, that kind of thing.

765
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:16,000
Also for non drinkers, there's this kombucha I found.

766
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,000
Hmm.

767
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,000
It's called alive and well.

768
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,000
Okay.

769
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,000
It doesn't taste like kombucha.

770
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,000
I haven't tried this yet, but I have a theory.

771
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000
I'm going to try it soon.

772
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,000
It's got like micro bubbles.

773
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:33,000
It's almost like a sparkling wine and mixing that with orange juice would probably scratch that.

774
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,000
Mamosa itch.

775
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,000
Hmm.

776
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,000
We're gonna have to try that live on here.

777
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,000
Excellent.

778
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,000
So we've kind of talked a little bit about you.

779
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:49,000
Is there anything that you think that you that we might have missed as far as like your your chef life or your cooking life or how about this?

780
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Who are some of your inspirations?

781
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Do you have any any cooking in besides your grandmother?

782
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Like do you have any like rocks that like it was Bourdain anything to you?

783
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,000
So my dad before I ever cooked.

784
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:06,000
So my my path in life, I originally from a young age until my 20s, I wanted to be a filmmaker.

785
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Okay.

786
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,000
I went to school for film.

787
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,000
I ended up getting kicked out of UNT.

788
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,000
As we all do.

789
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,000
Yeah.

790
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,000
And I also hated the film program there.

791
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,000
And I around that time is also when I was playing music more and realizing I wanted to play music.

792
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,000
But I changed to philosophy.

793
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:31,000
And so my goal in life was to be a philosophy professor and teach at a college level, get a doctor, all that stuff, end up doing chef stuff.

794
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:38,000
But before when I was still in like film school and stuff, my dad gave me a copy of No Res or oh no, I'm blanking.

795
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,000
No reservation.

796
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,000
No, not no reservations.

797
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Kitchen confidential.

798
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,000
Kitchen confidential.

799
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,000
Oh my God.

800
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,000
I pulled that out of my ass.

801
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,000
Yeah.

802
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:52,000
I haven't had any caffeine besides this Mountain Dew Citrus Cherry game fuel game fuel.

803
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,000
But but yeah.

804
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,000
So kitchen confidential.

805
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,000
My dad gave me a copy in like 2006 or 2007.

806
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,000
I was like, Hey, I think you really appreciate this guy.

807
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,000
He's kind of my age.

808
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:07,000
He grew up like in the proto punk era in the Lou Reed and all the like, which is all stuff my dad got me into.

809
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Like my dad turned me on to a lot of cool music growing up.

810
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,000
He saw the Sex Pistols back in the 70s.

811
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,000
The Clash like that's a whole other episode.

812
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,000
But but yeah, so he was like telling me like, yeah, this dude is like, he knows cool music.

813
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,000
He knows good food.

814
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:29,000
So Anthony Bourdain was like the first after Emeril Lagasse, which is funny if you've read Kitchen Confidential and how much Bourdain hates Emeril Lagasse.

815
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Anthony Bourdain was definitely like my biggest like inspiration.

816
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,000
Like, oh, that's just a regular dude.

817
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,000
He is a line cook and he's a every man's man.

818
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:48,000
And he takes all the spirit of like the 70s like rock and proto punk stuff into the kitchen with him for sure.

819
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,000
So yeah, Anthony Bourdain was huge.

820
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:58,000
I'm not not really a big like, oh man, I want to look at this chef and like praise the chef.

821
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:03,000
Because I don't want I've never felt I've got really bad imposter syndrome.

822
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:08,000
So and I assume that a lot of other people may have that too.

823
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,000
But I I'm more of a what's this restaurant?

824
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,000
What are they trying to say in that and stuff like that?

825
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,000
That's cool.

826
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,000
I just know that like I'm not a chef.

827
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:23,000
My dad is I like you relate in that way.

828
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,000
My dad, any cool music I know now is a really cool thing.

829
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:33,000
I know now is because my dad showed me and my dad was huge into cooking.

830
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,000
And my dad was not like the typical dad where he's like, mom cooks and I'm going to go outside.

831
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:47,000
But he he really my dad will get super nerdy about perfecting chocolate flambé, you know, moose or something like that.

832
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,000
And then he'll like do it 10 times until it's perfect.

833
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000
And then we're just like, we got to eat all these.

834
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,000
But he has some recipes that he just kills.

835
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:02,000
I mean, just like put them up against anybody anywhere anytime and he loves cooking.

836
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
And so he did pass that along to me.

837
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,000
I do cook.

838
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:21,000
But I just know that Bourdain in particular is one of those people that even if you have no tie to the kitchen, he has that that something that makes you feel like you could also be a part of that culture.

839
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:32,000
You could you could cook if you tried hard enough, if you did enough traveling and experiencing life, if you appreciated food enough, you too could could could feel some of those same things.

840
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,000
And so I did want to mention that.

841
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,000
So we're kind of wrapping up.

842
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:44,000
But on the wrap up, I did want to talk about our goals, our dreams, kind of like what we see this podcast.

843
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,000
We kind of introduced it a little bit at the top.

844
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,000
This episode has been kind of introduction and breakfast heavy.

845
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:58,000
The next one, the part two is going to be a little bit more in the violence episode, and then we'll kind of go cohesively from there.

846
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:11,000
But I just kind of wanted to talk about what you saw in the vision for this podcast, what you want to get out of the podcast and kind of like any future dreams, dream guests that you may want to have on the podcast.

847
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,000
I mean, yeah.

848
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:18,000
Yeah, so this idea came to me in the walk in doing inventory at spiral diner one day.

849
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,000
And I was like looking at pancake batter and I was like, oh man, I love breakfast food.

850
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:30,000
And I just had a conversation with somebody about a violent incident and I was like, oh wait, violence and breakfast food.

851
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,000
Let's go.

852
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,000
But I have a few friends who are in MMA.

853
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,000
I think Renee you have maybe even more ties.

854
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,000
My wife, her family is like a Fort Worth boxing dynasty.

855
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,000
Her dad was a boxer.

856
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,000
She boxed as a teenager.

857
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:53,000
Her uncles, one of her uncles helped with the Floyd Mayweather fight at AT&T Stadium a few years ago.

858
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,000
So they're very well connected her on her dad's side and then on her mom's side.

859
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:04,000
Her grandfather was the trainer of all of the boys on her dad's side.

860
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,000
So, so yeah, like ties there.

861
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:15,000
But so, I mean, I'm not super I'm not as versed in UFC and boxing and everything as you are Renee.

862
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,000
I'm a casual spectator.

863
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,000
But I'm very intrigued by it and I've like taken Jiu Jitsu classes.

864
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,000
I've got friends who are like black belts and Jiu Jitsu.

865
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,000
One of which his name is Kevin O'Malley.

866
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000
I'd love to have him on the show.

867
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Maybe we can get his brother, Gene O'Malley.

868
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,000
He's a real character.

869
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,000
Yeah.

870
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000
But Kevin owns Fort Worth Float Company.

871
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,000
They do sensory deprivation float tanks.

872
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:48,000
He does cold plunges infrared sauna or red light therapy, but he's a black belt in Jiu Jitsu and he's also a black belt in Judo.

873
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,000
That's very cool.

874
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,000
Yeah.

875
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,000
And he's been around doing it for as long as I've known him.

876
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,000
So I'd love to have him on the show.

877
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,000
Definitely.

878
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,000
I trained at frequency Jiu Jitsu for a while.

879
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:09,000
Kyle over there, his outlook on Jiu Jitsu, like his whole philosophy on it is really interesting.

880
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,000
So maybe we can get him on, you know, big names.

881
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,000
Sky's the limit.

882
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,000
Yeah.

883
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,000
Biggest name.

884
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,000
Again, I'm not as in that as you are.

885
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,000
Let's get Conor McGregor on here.

886
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,000
Yeah, we'll get Conor to call in and give us a little shout out.

887
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,000
In person.

888
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,000
In person.

889
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,000
In the studio.

890
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,000
Get him in the studio.

891
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,000
You're aiming high and I'm so into that.

892
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:35,000
So whenever you brought this idea to me, we had been kind of kicking around.

893
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:48,000
So we had, we put on spell kind of to bed and we had been kicking around just maybe hanging out together as friends and and also just maybe doing a project together.

894
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:58,000
But then this idea came and the second you said it, I was just like, I'm so into this because I think that.

895
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,000
I think that we both have a lot to learn from each other.

896
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:11,000
I think that you can teach me a lot about being a chef, cooking about what to look for and good restaurants and and good meals and good experiences.

897
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,000
Why breakfast is a very important meal of the day.

898
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:21,000
And I think that, you know, I can bring together a little bit of some of some of what I watch.

899
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,000
I personally watch just about every UFC event that there is.

900
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,000
And I have done so for probably about 10 years.

901
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:33,000
I also watch some of the other promotions that are out there.

902
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,000
PFL or tour.

903
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,000
There's bare knuckle fighting.

904
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:49,000
There's also, you know, we, we grew up in you and I kind of grew up in similar areas where we didn't have the internet one day and then we did the next and then for like the next, I don't know, 10, 15 years.

905
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:55,000
It was pretty much unregulated. So we grew up with stuff like Gore and or Rotten and stuff.

906
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:18,000
So we've pretty much seen all there is to see when it comes to like the internet violence, but we'll go back and touch on some of those, like maybe some of those classic internet fights, like maybe some Kimbo slice stuff, some stuff where in particular, if we ever talk about Jorge Mosvital, he kind of got to start in those backyard fights and has made his way through the UFC all the way to now.

907
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:33,000
He actually owns his own promotion and game bread fighting promotion and he puts on events that are, I mean, you know, it, you know, just as good, if not as as good as Bellator and some of those other fight cards.

908
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:39,000
So someone that kind of made his way from the backyard all the way to the CEO's office of a fight promotion.

909
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:44,000
My goals, I would love to get at least 100 podcasts that I had that number in my head.

910
00:55:44,000 --> 00:56:00,000
Whenever we first started this, I would like to do 100 of these. I would like to have all of our friends that we know that are creative that have something to offer, especially in the Fort Worth area, just as a way to kind of highlight and advertise some of those unsung heroes.

911
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:14,000
I would love to have any and all chefs and personal nutritionists and anybody that can give us any insight into the science of breakfast or breakfast foods.

912
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:24,000
I would love to have, like you said, Jim Jim coaches owners trainers fighters in the area. There's one that you shouted out Conor McGregor.

913
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:31,000
I'm going to shout out Kevin Holland. He is a current UFC fighter and he trains and lives in Fort Worth.

914
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:39,000
He trains with Travis Looter, who owns a gym out here and who was also in the UFC some time ago.

915
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:47,000
And so I think that would be my first big get slash, you know, goal slash dream.

916
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,000
He's got a very close relationship with Dana White that give each other sneakers all the time.

917
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:58,000
And he's been to center. I've heard he's not been since I've been since I've been at center, but I've heard he's dipped in there once or twice before.

918
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:03,000
So Kevin Holland, if you hear this, please shout us out. Tell us what you eat for breakfast.

919
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,000
Tell us how a champion prepares for a fight. What do you eat on fight day?

920
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:14,000
I would love to know because to me, I would think you'd be so nervous or even so overconfident that you just couldn't eat.

921
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,000
What do you eat for breakfast on a fight day?

922
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:24,000
I'm curious about that, too, especially because you've been dieting. So after the weigh in, I mean, I kind of come from more of a powerlifting background.

923
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,000
So it's like, after the weigh in, you're going to carve up, you're going to eat a whole bunch of stuff.

924
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:39,000
So I'm wondering if that's the same thing or if you're going to go like full Jordan and have like a steak with some garlic mashed potatoes and green beans two hours before the fight smell real garlicky and beefy.

925
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,000
Yeah. That's that's I mean, we have to know.

926
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:55,000
So if you are a current fighter of any promotion of any level and you would like to reach out to us and tell us what you guys do breakfast wise, I'm with you.

927
00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:00,000
They cut so much weight and then they have to put that water back into their body.

928
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:07,000
And then I just don't know. Does that make your tummy hurt? Does that make you not want to eat breakfast? Does it?

929
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:12,000
You know, and and kind of like, how does that work? I just I would love to know that.

930
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,000
So there we go. That's kind of our first episode.

931
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:21,000
Is there anything you want to mention before we kind of shut this down for this episode?

932
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:27,000
I had one last thought slash memory about ship leads donuts that I didn't mention earlier.

933
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,000
OK.

934
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:33,000
So when I moved to Texas in 2002, I moved to like North Fort Worth area.

935
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:39,000
It was one ship leads donuts. It was on 377 and Wattaga. That was the closest one to me.

936
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:45,000
But there was a band and I'm not sure you might remember them, Renee, called the Knockout Kings.

937
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,000
Do you remember them? When ties go with them?

938
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:56,000
Yeah. So Clink, who was a singer of the Knockout Kings, he lived like in the Keller Wattaga, North Fort Worth area.

939
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:03,680
And I remember my first like, I'd seen that ship leads donuts, but they went on tour and they took a picture with their van.

940
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:12,440
And the like trailer, they were pulling behind them with like the two bands that were playing outside of ship leads, like ganged up, whole crew.

941
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,280
And that was like, oh, man, maybe ship leads donuts is cool.

942
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,000
Still never want to make there.

943
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,760
What the fuck is that ship leads? Yeah.

944
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,800
But yeah, shout out Knockout Kings for for anyone who remembers them.

945
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,480
Brad Robertson, their bass player, bald guy.

946
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:34,440
Kim and I played trombone together in the marching band in high school.

947
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,200
And then their guitar player, I think was Jared Abraham.

948
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,800
And he went to high school with us too.

949
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,800
And so shout out Aisle High School Class of 2002.

950
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,800
I only really went there my senior year because I got in trouble at South Hills High School in Fort Worth.

951
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:55,400
But yeah, so I know those guys love Knockout Kings love ship leads donuts.

952
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,400
What a perfect memory and way to wrap this up.

953
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,800
I would like to give a few thank yous for the people that are making this happen.

954
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,800
First and foremost, let's thank Mountain Dew and their game.

955
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:11,200
Citrus Cherry, that was wonderful fuel for this.

956
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,600
Thank you to ship leads donuts.

957
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:17,400
This location was the location that's over off of Sycamore School Road.

958
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,400
And the Krali slash South Fort Worth area.

959
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:26,400
The people there that gave me my donuts this morning were happy, awake,

960
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,400
and those to serve me my donuts.

961
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,400
These donuts were tasty.

962
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,400
You can hear our scores earlier in the episode.

963
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,400
We will be back with another episode.

964
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,400
We will review some more donuts.

965
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:42,400
Stay tuned for part two where we come back to talk about violence.

966
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,400
Also, let's thank our families.

967
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,400
They allowed us to get out this morning and to get this done.

968
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,400
So big thank you to Heather.

969
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,400
Yeah, thanks, Heather.

970
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,400
Thanks, kids.

971
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,400
Thanks, kids.

972
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:54,400
Thank you, Allie.

973
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,400
Thank you, kids.

974
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:56,400
And I'm really excited.

975
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,400
I can't wait to get back to you to talk with you especially about this violence

976
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:02,400
that we have coming up.

977
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,400
So love some violence.

978
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,400
Love some donuts.

979
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,400
All right, everybody, take care.

980
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,400
Have a great day.

981
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,400
Don't forget to eat your breakfast.

982
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,400
Bye.

983
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,400
Bye.

984
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,400
Bye.