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This is Lightly Used with Adam and Karen.

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Hello, I'm Adam.

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And I'm Karen.

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We share a love of charity shop mooching and this is where we talk about what we've seen

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and show off some of our treasured tat.

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Lovely.

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We actually did go mooching today in Lethlie.

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Yeah, we did.

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It was 80s day or something.

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80s fest.

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It was not the most sensible day for parking in the centre of town.

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I don't know what's going on in my town.

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I should have known before Warner's.

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It's going to be busy today.

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Well, we could have gone to the Monster Truck Festival and the Hot Air Balloon Festival in Margam.

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But yeah, the charity shops were calling.

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So we ended up in Llanelli.

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And town was just rammed full of people that we all thought were on a hen party.

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No, it was neon fish tights, fishnet tights and gloves and neon hair bands and crimped hair galore.

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A lot of the time we have been out.

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I've not actually bought anything, but I did today.

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I did.

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You did. You were right.

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Let me reach in with the shelf.

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Don't hit the mic.

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The shelf. Oh tat.

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I bought two things.

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I bought and we'll be putting photos of these on the show blog.

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Also, thank you. Thank you very, very much to Tom and Rob for inviting us to join Studio Channel 84.

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The only times we usually take part in anything is when we have to get dressed up for the filming the USS Shit Show.

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Yeah.

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My costume's way too tight.

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Well, you know, you didn't go to Garak for your seam letting, did you?

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I've asked about adjustments, but no, it's continuity or something.

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I'm stuck with it.

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Anyway, what did you buy?

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Thank you very, very much, guys.

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Yeah. Cheers, Tom and Rob. Sorry.

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Not just ignoring the fact that Adam was doing a huge thank you to you there, but you already know I'm grateful and I text you a million times a day.

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Thank you, love you both. Love you. Bye.

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But yeah, my first purchase today was a Matchbox ride on lawn mower toy.

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Oh, it's a Matchbox.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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No, Hot Wheels.

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Oh.

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Sorry.

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It's a Hot Wheels Grass Chomper - 2015 Mattel, so I'll put a photo of that on the show blog and Keith Haring Hat.

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Yes, we very much like the baseball cap.

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I've been looking because I'm going a bit bald.

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Hang on. It's a bit too big for my head.

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I don't know if I look good in caps or not.

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You look good in that one.

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I'm very conscious that my ears stick out.

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I'm not usually a hat wearer of any kind.

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It feels weird having, oh, my ears are poking out.

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Really quite petite ears, actually. I've never noticed until you just pointed them out.

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That's really funny.

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Is that a compliment?

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Yeah. I mean, your ears do continue growing as you get older, along with your nose are the only two things.

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You're looking very, yeah.

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Oh, it bodes well for me being 90 then.

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Yeah, no, you're looking good.

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There's some room for my ears to grow into.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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But yeah, it was, was it YMCA? We both got both of these.

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It was the YMCA.

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Five pounds, nice purple and black Keith Haring hat with a red heart and a pink square background.

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Photos again, we'll be on the show blog along with our share notes.

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And show blogs and things like that will be found via the Studio Channel 84 link website.

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But we also have a website with the likely used address, which will ping you over to Channel 84 and take you directly to our things.

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Likelyuse.co.uk.

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So that's what we'll be in up to today. And we've also got photos of, we're going back to 80s Fest.

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Yes.

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I nearly forgot the main thing.

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I know.

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We saw replica kit and DeLorean from Back to the Future.

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We did. And they were really cool.

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I mean, like I wanted to sit in the DeLorean because the doors are open, but there were very clear barriers saying, do not enter the vehicle.

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People will go in and press buttons.

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Yes.

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Or they'll try to get up to 88 miles an hour.

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And I would have been really tempted to steal that alarm clock that was on the dashboard.

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So, you know, magpie Karen best avoided.

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Props.

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Yeah. But they were ace.

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Yeah. Loads of photos taken.

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We'll stick some of them on the website and I'll probably write some bumps about it as well.

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Just to bore you all a little bit more.

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I was really surprised how small the actual Trans Am was.

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It was, I was expecting it to be American car size, but was it just so used to all the cars now being that big?

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Yeah. Well, you know, in general, small cars don't really exist anymore, do they?

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But I mean, it looked a manageable size.

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It did. But you would only have got one dead body in the boot.

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And also it would have been easy to see there's no parcel shelf.

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Yeah, that's true.

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So all the tapper head in there, some number plates and oil and some rags to keep the car going.

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There was a wig as well that looks suspiciously like the one that we stole from Bifo at the live show last year.

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That was given to us.

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One of the many things thrown in our direction.

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But more recently, we've seen Kit and the Bek the Teacher car.

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Yes. And it was a very nice day to be out and about looking at 80s cars.

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So on the show, we're going to be comparing some of our treasured tat, being likely used not necessarily always from a charity shop.

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It could be something that in my case I've found in the cupboard under the stairs or something that maybe not even belonged to me from the attic of this house.

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Interesting.

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There are some things up there.

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Yeah, I mean, I've got a couple of things from childhood that for some reason and through some miracle and about 17 house moves, I've managed to keep in my possession from the age of about 10.

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So, you know, they may feature at some point.

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One of them is definitely a big gun.

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No.

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Not like a bang, bang, bang, bang gun.

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For those of you that can't see me, I'm actually holding an imaginary rifle now, pointing it at Adam's face.

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Good space work.

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And pulling the trigger, bang, bang, bang.

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No, like, you know, like pulling out the big guns.

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I'm going to get you.

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An item of immense interest.

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To me.

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Also, we've got a game section.

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Yes, we do.

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You poor people.

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I need to apologise in advance because we recorded this last week.

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Yeah, we recorded the gameplay last week.

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Both of us are suffering with hay fever.

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Yeah, me particularly, especially as it goes on, it gets worse and worse.

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So apologies for any sniffling or sneezing.

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Adam has tried to get rid of an awful lot of it, but due to me over talking him all of the time, some of that has had to have been kept in for continuity purposes.

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Apologies.

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I don't know if you've met Arthur at Channel 84.

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I think he might have been one of the creativity sort of...

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He said his name was Art and then after everything after that, my head just blanked out.

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I don't know if I was just staring at it.

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I don't know if it might have been just for two seconds or it could have been 30 seconds when he was talking.

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I was just going off going, ah, I've never actually met anyone called Art.

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It was like the bit in The Simpsons where Homer's brain with the monkey smashing the cymbals.

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I'm sure it was just a blank expression on my face and in my head, it's Art Garfunkel.

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Try and think more of Art.

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And then I realised what was going on and I kind of caught myself.

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So I've got no idea.

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But apparently we've got some sort of grants to include, you want us to include literary section.

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Oh, lovely.

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Bibliotech.

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Bibliotech.

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Because we always come, always looking at books in the charity shops.

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And I've got absolutely loads in my house from years gone by.

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Some of them not necessarily mine.

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At least a few of them my grandmother let me borrow before she died and I can't give them back.

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Let's put it that way.

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Yeah, fair enough.

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So what you've really done is accept a grant on our behalf for purchasing books to include in the bibliotech section.

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But you've just pocketed the money and now you just read the books you've already had hiding a cupboard for 20 years.

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It might have been mention of cash but I had tuned anything out all I heard was his name was Art.

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And we've got to include some literary sort of thing.

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OK, so do you want to go first?

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I will go first.

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Yes, thank you very much.

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I hope we should explain this next segment.

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We've both got large boxes concealing our featured items that we're just going to show off to each other.

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But bearing in mind we've both been around to each other's houses.

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We've both seen our shelves of tats.

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We all know roughly what we own but we don't know what of our possessions we're bringing to show off and talk about today.

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But yeah, you'll go first.

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Do you want to put the box on the floor or on your lap?

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I'm going to hold it on my lap for a second while I open the lid.

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That's the key with the back.

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ASMR purposes.

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Oh God, I'm left handed.

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That way. There we are.

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Here are my notes because I didn't remember these things by heart.

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Right, close your eyes.

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Okay, I'm looking away as well.

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Okay, closing the lid.

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Right, open your hands but not your eyes.

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Tell me what you feel.

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Oh, it feels pencil casey.

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Sorry, a metal pencil case sort of size thing.

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Maybe a bit bigger.

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If it was a biscuit tin it would be here.

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It would be in my place with biscuits in it.

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It's got a hinge.

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It's a pressed tin box with a hinge on one side.

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Can I feel what's inside?

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Maybe open your eyes now, actually.

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Oh, I remember when you got these.

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You went straight to these in the charity shop.

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Yeah, I did.

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It was a pair of welding goggles.

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Yeah, welding goggles.

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Yeah, welders goggles.

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Very, very old with a rubber racing goggles mask to put on your face.

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I don't know what that is.

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This is Nixie Tube.

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It's one of those old vacuum formed fluorescent displays

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with a seven segment display of a figure eight.

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Oh, I've got a bomb component.

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What component?

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The ones that you see on really cool 70s countdown machinery,

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Tell me more about this.

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What have you found out?

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OK, so about the actual goggles, not that much.

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They do nothing.

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Because the internet isn't great when you're looking for things

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like vocal goggles and lenses.

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You type in that and you just get a load of vintage websites coming up,

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going, oh, buy these vocal goggles and lenses.

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And I'm like, OK, I'll click on this link, see if it gives me any history

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about the item.

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Try the next one.

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Same thing.

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No information.

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Just that they're not available anymore, but you can still see that they were for sale.

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So, yeah, these were found in the British Heart Foundation in Swansea.

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It's the smallest charity shop we've got.

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And the actual tat section is probably smaller than my tat shelves at home.

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But anyway, it's a lovely little shop, and the ladies and gents that work there

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So you've got a very nice red metal tin with a hinged back.

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It says BOC, vocal goggles and lenses on the lid.

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You open it.

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As you said, you've got the leather strap, lens holders with the elastic that goes

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There's different lenses.

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Lovely colours, though.

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Yeah, really nice colours.

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And also there is...

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Protect your eyes!

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Yes, protect your eyes with vocal goggles, the British Oxygen Company Limited.

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Vocal goggles, maybe.

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Vocal? Vocal?

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No, because there's a hat over the O, so there's no emphasis on the A.

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It could be bockel.

249
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Bockel goggles?

250
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Bockel?

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Bockel goggle.

252
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Oh, that's fun to say.

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Bockel goggle.

254
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I think it might be the...

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Because the BOC, the British Oxygen Company,

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might have had a weird pronunciation of the O.

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Yeah, maybe.

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But anyway, yeah.

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So there's like an A4 piece, well, almost an A4 piece of paper on the inside

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telling you what the goggles are for, what the different lenses are for,

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what kind of light they block.

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And they also tell you that the instructions were revised in December 1963.

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So I think these goggles are circa around 63, 64,

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which I'm really impressed with because the leather themselves,

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the press sort of rubberised leather lens holders, are in really good condition.

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The only thing that's really suffered anything is the elastic on one side.

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The other side has still got a bit of stretch, but the other side has perished

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and the clip isn't great.

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But otherwise, they're in good nick.

270
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So, bockel goggles and lenses, circa December 63.

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We've got the goggles strap, we've got the lenses.

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This set came with a set of clear lenses and the green lenses.

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So the different lenses for depending on what tasks you're performing with the glasses.

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Yeah, so the different lenses block out different kinds of radiation,

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infrared, general light and ultraviolet.

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So the green lenses block out the ultraviolet, I believe.

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There's clear lenses for general light.

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Safety.

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And I'm not sure what lenses you get for the infrared.

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Oh, a light tint, but we've got dark tint and no tint in this box.

281
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But they came in four different tints, light, intermediate, dark and clear.

282
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So I don't know if there's some lenses actually missing from the kit itself.

283
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It's probably very likely because they're not exactly thick pieces of glass.

284
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I do, however, think with the one green lens that I've got left,

285
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you'll be able to look at the next eclipse through it.

286
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Solar eclipse.

287
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This isn't medical advice.

288
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No, this is not medical advice.

289
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Check the rating on your welding goggles if you're using it to look at eclipses.

290
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OK, all right.

291
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I mean, this particular piece of glass I'm drawing in front of me right now.

292
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I mean, I'm never going to look at a flipping eclipse anyway.

293
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I'm never around to see them.

294
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I'm usually asleep.

295
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But I did put a little asterisk, don't stare at the sun.

296
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But I'm recommending that if ever you get hold of this one piece of green glass off of me,

297
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you can stare at the sun through it, but only in the case of a total solar eclipse.

298
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And, you know, don't sue me.

299
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The goggles are made for use over glasses,

300
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because obviously a lot of people that work with their hands have a lot of close vision tasks

301
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and that can affect your eyesight.

302
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And as you get older, you tend to wear glasses.

303
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So this rubberized leather strap was designed

304
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so that you could place it over your standard lenses and still be comfortable.

305
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I don't know if it would work with modern day shaped glasses.

306
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But I mean, they go over your glasses.

307
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That's upside down by the way.

308
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That's over my glasses.

309
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Yeah, but you know, so that was good because for a lot of people, they have to do a trade off.

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You choose to wear your glasses and hope you don't get a spark in the eye,

311
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or you choose to wear your welding goggles,

312
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but you don't have as good a vision because you have to take your sight glasses off.

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So this gives you a happy medium between the two.

314
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And then just a little bit of history really about BOC,

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which is Britain's Oxygen Company,

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originally named Brin's Oxygen Company Limited.

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They were established in 1886 by two French brothers, Arthur and Leon Brin,

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hence Brin's company.

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They primarily manufactured oxygen using high temperature barium oxide,

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known as the Brin process.

321
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And the main application for that was use in limelight and magic lanterns and theatre lighting.

322
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Now, I thought Wikipedia was lying to me when it said about limelight

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because I'm not the smartest person and I don't work as a stage star or a stagehand.

324
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And I always thought limelight was just a saying, like, oh, you're in the limelight.

325
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That's exactly where it comes from.

326
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But it is a real thing.

327
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So thank you, Wikipedia and BOC for my minor piece of education.

328
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In 1903, the development of oxyacetylene welding and cryogenic air separation,

329
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turn my page over,

330
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process replaced the use of barium oxide.

331
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And that meant that new types of safety wear is required

332
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because you needed to be able to block that light.

333
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Veprated PPE was needed.

334
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Yes, yes. Oh, yeah. Well done. Well said.

335
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In 1906, the Brin brothers renamed the company, the British Oxygen Company, or BOC for short.

336
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And then during World War I, BOC increased the mass production of war machinery.

337
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So their goggles and welding equipment and things like that were pumped into the industry

338
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to be able to create things like ships, tanks and trucks.

339
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They weren't building weapons as far as I know.

340
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That's not what Wikipedia tells me anyway.

341
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And if any of this is wrong, I've either read it out wrong, written it down wrong or Wikipedia is wrong.

342
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And then in World War II, BOC provided gases for munitions and medical needs.

343
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So slightly different trajectory there.

344
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In the 1960s and 70s, BOC's expanded their company into refrigeration.

345
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And BOC became part of Lind Group in September 2006,

346
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making it the group market leader in refrigeration and gases.

347
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So, yeah, the goggles themselves, I'm really sorry.

348
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I must have said sorry about a thousand times already.

349
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But not an awful lot of information online about them in particular.

350
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I couldn't find anybody that had written about using them or anything like that.

351
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But BOC themselves as a company, they've got quite an interest in history.

352
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So it just gave me an excuse to just write some bullet points down and talk about guns and ships and tanks and welding.

353
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They're essentially standard welding goggles, but who made them is the more interesting.

354
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They're not fancy, but they are a bit of vintage cool wear.

355
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And I suppose if you were into steampunk, they would look really good on top of a top hat.

356
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A brown leather one.

357
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And BOC is still around today, as you said.

358
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They are indeed and still a market leader in whatever it is that they do these days.

359
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So that's my item.

360
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Very nice. My turn.

361
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Yes, bring it on.

362
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OK, so I guess you close your eyes and hold out your hands if that's what we're doing.

363
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Open your box, darling.

364
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All right. Hold your hands out.

365
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They're open and held.

366
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That sounds big.

367
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Oh, it feels big.

368
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That's what they all say.

369
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It also feels plastic.

370
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Yeah, that's not what they all say.

371
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Well, in my experience.

372
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This has suspiciously ended up in my hands a little bit like that imaginary rifle I was shooting you with.

373
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So it's either a gun or a drill, but feeling the tip.

374
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There seems to be a slight bump there, a slight ridge, which could be a sight line.

375
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So I'm going it's a gun.

376
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And it's plastic and I've not opened my eyes yet and I don't know if I've seen it.

377
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, because I want to say something.

378
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I want to say something.

379
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It's probably not going to be true because I don't think I've seen this of yours.

380
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But it feels very much like a Tomy toy.

381
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So I kind of want it to be like white and blue or with a bit of red.

382
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But it's probably going to be black.

383
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No.

384
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000
Can I open my eyes now?

385
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Oh, it's green. I was made by Tiger.

386
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Oh, it's not just a gun.

387
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000
It's an LCD tank game.

388
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,000
Oh, my God.

389
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000
Where did you find this?

390
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,000
It's a I was given it.

391
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000
It's a horribly annoying noise.

392
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,000
Go for it.

393
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So on the batteries working.

394
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,000
Oh, no, I've broken it.

395
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,000
Everybody hang on.

396
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000
The batteries might just be flat.

397
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Just give them a warm up.

398
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I do have some extra batteries.

399
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I did wonder why you were making sure that was unrelated.

400
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,000
Coincidentally, it's because my wireless keyboard's been absolutely naked.

401
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,000
I've been able to type a handful of things that goes.

402
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,000
There you go.

403
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000
Oh, wow.

404
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000
Oh, my God.

405
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Before you play it.

406
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000
How does it work?

407
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I've got to get my dossier out.

408
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000
You've got a dossier.

409
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,000
Yes.

410
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Do not people, he has got multiple pages of A4 color printed, which means to me he printed this at work.

411
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000
Of course I've printed.

412
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I don't have a printer of my own.

413
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That's all.

414
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,000
I've got to use it.

415
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,000
Oh, yeah, that's a good point.

416
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,000
But it's a Tiger Electronics 1988 Tank Attack.

417
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,000
Oh, my God.

418
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000
It's so cool.

419
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In this instance, being a child and making it look more combat and stealthy and also a bit spacey,

420
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I've colored over a bunch of the stickers with a permanent marker or gold pen.

421
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,000
But the gold and green kind of look quite good.

422
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,000
Yeah, they do look good together.

423
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It's a natural combination.

424
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It just looks a bit more spacey.

425
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It also says patent pending.

426
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Do you think it's still pending from 1988?

427
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,000
They might have won that patent by now.

428
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Originally, it also had a base.

429
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,000
I've never had this little base for the front handle.

430
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As you could play.

431
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,000
It looks like it was probably snapped off.

432
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000
Yeah, it's always been like that since I've owned it.

433
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,000
But you could put it on the tabletop and use that as a turret to save holding it in both hands.

434
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That is so cool.

435
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,000
Now, I got this when I was a kid.

436
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,000
A friend gave it to me because I helped him with his paper round a bunch.

437
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:59,000
Now, I moved to my house in Gowerton around 1987, 88 or 89.

438
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Right.

439
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100%.

440
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:06,000
When we moved in, my dad laid cement, redid the back garden, laid cement path.

441
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He put the year and my sister and I put our initials in the wet cement.

442
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That's really sweet.

443
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,000
It's paved over now.

444
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,000
Never mind.

445
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,000
They had a resin pathway put in the back.

446
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,000
Did you actually Sharpie your name and address on the bottom of this?

447
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,000
No, I don't do that.

448
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,000
I don't do that.

449
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It's the first show.

450
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I wasn't going to read it out.

451
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000
I was just asking.

452
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If it got lost around my neighborhood or anything because we used to play army and stuff as kids.

453
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Genius.

454
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Or if any of my mates had it, that's definitely mine.

455
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It's got my name on it.

456
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,000
It would have been maybe 89, 90.

457
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000
So it might have been a few years old.

458
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,000
It was given to me by my mate Andrew.

459
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So for helping to do his paper round.

460
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,000
It still works.

461
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,000
So very, very annoying, but it is surprisingly engaging.

462
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000
So I've popped a couple of batteries in it to test it.

463
00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,000
And I got to level six just trying it out.

464
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,000
Nice.

465
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,000
I only got hit once.

466
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,000
All right.

467
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,000
Okay.

468
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Is this a record I need to be?

469
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,000
Yeah.

470
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000
Do you want to give it a go?

471
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,000
Yeah.

472
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000
How does it work?

473
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000
Let's not give it up to level six because it's going to be far too annoying.

474
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,000
Okay.

475
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,000
So it'll be that'll be a crosshairs on the front that stays the same, but you can use

476
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,000
that to move left and right and you'll see the front hand grip rotates.

477
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,000
Sometimes if you move too far, there'll be, oh, I didn't see a tank there on the side

478
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,000
and it'll be right in front of you before you know it.

479
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000
Okay.

480
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,000
Oh sugar.

481
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,000
It's going.

482
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,000
There's no sound.

483
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000
No, die, die, die.

484
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,000
Oh, I'm dead already.

485
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:47,000
How do I know if it shot them?

486
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Oh, they explode.

487
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,000
There you go.

488
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,000
Oh, that's me dying.

489
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,000
I might try to get some battery.

490
00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:03,000
I got 300 points and that is awful.

491
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,000
And there's no sound to help you.

492
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,000
It's going to be so annoying with the sound, but it's proof of concept.

493
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See if it does work.

494
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,000
There's no sound.

495
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:33,000
Oh, there we go.

496
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000
So can you, he got me.

497
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,000
Oh, he did.

498
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000
Can you move lanes just out of their way or do you have to destroy them?

499
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Oh yeah, you can move out the way.

500
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000
So if it's off the screen, they can't see you.

501
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,000
So you could just dodge every single tank and get through all levels without actually

502
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,000
destroying anything.

503
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,000
Yeah.

504
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,000
But do you only score points for, oh no, cause that's still going up.

505
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,000
Oh, you score points for distance.

506
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,000
I think there's a countdown there of how many tanks, I think it's going to be 25 tanks on

507
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000
the level.

508
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000
I think it was 13 in the first level.

509
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it was.

510
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:18,000
You have to do the noises for me.

511
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000
Oh, you got dead.

512
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000
Shame the sound doesn't work.

513
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000
Was it working before?

514
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000
Yeah.

515
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,000
Yeah.

516
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,000
That was not me farting.

517
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000
That's me adjusting my position on the sofa.

518
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000
That sounds worse.

519
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,000
Try it one more time.

520
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,000
Adam is faffing with buttons to see if there's a secret code to get the volume to work.

521
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,000
It's only got one volume loud.

522
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000
No, you definitely know it if it's working.

523
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:56,000
Well, either way, it is a supremely cool item that you've now just confiscated from me.

524
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,000
Oh, oh, sorry.

525
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:03,000
I want to handle your gun some more.

526
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,000
I found one on eBay.

527
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,000
It's sold in Belgium.

528
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,000
Spider!

529
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Sorry.

530
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000
Oh, it's only a little one.

531
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000
I don't know why I freaked out so much.

532
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,000
It's tiny.

533
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,000
Carry on.

534
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,000
I'll deal with the mite.

535
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,000
I found one listed on eBay.

536
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,000
It's sold in Belgium in April 2024 without the box.

537
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,000
It did have the stand and the battery door, which mine doesn't have.

538
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,000
In the pictures, it looked like a small but chunky rail mount.

539
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,000
OK.

540
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000
No, no, carry on.

541
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,000
Sorry, I'm distracting Adam with my tiny spider antics.

542
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000
Oh, I'll show you a photo of the box.

543
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,000
There we go.

544
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,000
That's the box.

545
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000
If you've got it new in the shop.

546
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,000
Oh, my God.

547
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,000
That is so cool.

548
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000
It looks like something out of Terminator or something.

549
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,000
It does.

550
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000
If I can put this as the show notes, I will as well.

551
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Yeah, that's a great idea.

552
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,000
Lightning Rod Labs box art.

553
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,000
That one's missing the base two that they're selling.

554
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,000
Oh, yes.

555
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000
It's not in the same way or?

556
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000
No, the clips are still there on this one.

557
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,000
Oh, right.

558
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:09,000
The box says, use tank attack to hunt out and destroy enemy tanks.

559
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000
You don't hunt them out.

560
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,000
They're dry.

561
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000
You're pretty much staying still hunting you out on your.

562
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Yeah.

563
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000
All that either or they're still driving towards you.

564
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,000
Realistic firing sounds and explosions, which I wish I could have demonstrated to you today.

565
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000
You have to take their word for it.

566
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000
My 'pew-pew-'.

567
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000
=pews' weren't a bad substitute.

568
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,000
They're more realistic than these ones.

569
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:38,000
It was just really low chip tune sort of like birthday cards of that high quality.

570
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,000
Unique scrolling display feel changes the move.

571
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Use tank attack in capital letters left and right.

572
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,000
Nine levels of difficulty.

573
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,000
If I don't have three more levels to go, I would have carried on playing.

574
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000
I would have beaten the game.

575
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,000
LCD action game with super sounds, exciting sound effects.

576
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Again, you'll just have to take their word for it.

577
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000
I will have to believe you on the sound effects.

578
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,000
But it is it is fabulous.

579
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:12,000
It is a chunky beast of a boy that I am kind of envious of.

580
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,000
I mean, we would never have had any of anything like this in our house when we were kids.

581
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000
Primarily because it was three girls and one boy.

582
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:29,000
But also, you know, we didn't really I mean, we didn't really do Halloween, let alone guns and bows and arrows and stuff like that in our family.

583
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:34,000
So, yeah, but that would have been something that maybe one of my male cousins might have had.

584
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,000
And I would have gone around their house and snuck a go of it every now and then.

585
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
It is awesome.

586
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,000
And for cool points, hands down, it in my opinion beats the goggles.

587
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,000
You bastard.

588
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,000
And I got it for free.

589
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000
Even worse.

590
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,000
So thank you very much, Andrew Yelland from when I was 10.

591
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
You went to my school.

592
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000
Bless you.

593
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000
You're such a lovely boy.

594
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000
I did kind of work for it.

595
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,000
I was just saying in exchange for helping out in this paper round.

596
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,000
And incidentally, the goggles cost me a tenner.

597
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,000
But I still think they're worth every penny because they're a really cool little thing.

598
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000
They're a really unique item.

599
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000
Nice little objet d'art.

600
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000
I win?

601
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000
Yeah.

602
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Yay!

603
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:24,000
But, you know, if you feel sorry for me, feel free to comment somewhere on social media that the goggles were actually worth talking about.

604
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000
Yeah.

605
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Can people comment on the blog?

606
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000
If they can, do it.

607
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,000
Yeah, if you can comment on the blogs, feel free.

608
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,000
If not, we are on social media and Adam will tell you what the links are at the end because I don't know.

609
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,000
We are at ...lightly used...?...

610
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000
Yeah, I'll tell you at the end.

611
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:50,000
OK, for our very, very first game that we're playing, it's one that you found.

612
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:57,000
Yeah, picked up in the Greyhound charity shop in Swansea on the Kingsway.

613
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,000
It was on display in the window for ages and I'd had my eye on it for weeks and weeks and weeks.

614
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000
I was like, oh my God, I hope they sell it. I hope they sell it.

615
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,000
I really want them to put it on the shelf.

616
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000
And then I walked past one weekend and it wasn't in the window anymore.

617
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
And I was like, oh no, I've missed my chance. I've missed it.

618
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:18,000
But no, I walked in and there it was in all its glory on the top shelf, just waiting for me to go and collect it

619
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:28,000
and pay what I thought was a slightly extortionate price of £10 for a board game that's probably 30 years old.

620
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,000
However, I did check on eBay last week and I've had a bit of a bargain

621
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,000
because the cheapest one on there that was up for sale was £24.99

622
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
and there was another one on there for £30 odd.

623
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,000
It does have the year there.

624
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:46,000
Oh my God, there we are. Search Glen Limited, 1987.

625
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,000
What does that make it? 34? No.

626
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,000
What's seven or 14? Seven. Oh my God. So it's 37 years old.

627
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,000
It's doing all right. We've got all the pieces. Well, almost all the pieces actually.

628
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000
What was it?

629
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000
The cage evidence.

630
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000
That's right. No cage evidence cars.

631
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000
All of them are gone, weirdly.

632
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:12,000
We looked underneath all the vacuum formed plasticky bits. Not there inside the box either.

633
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,000
No, lots of really lovely, decrepit, bonus elastic bands though.

634
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000
The rules are absolutely insane.

635
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,000
We're even playing the simple version. Oh my God.

636
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:30,000
We did notice they were children's rules. However, excuse me, excuse me.

637
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,000
There is a Nessie Hunt special introductory rules for inexperienced or casual game players.

638
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:42,000
And whilst I cannot say I am inexperienced, I can definitely say I am somewhat casual sometimes.

639
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:51,000
So we're hoping that this A4, literal A4 page, the main rules are like double sided A3.

640
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,000
It's ridiculous. It's a whole, I mean, it's nearly a novel.

641
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,000
But yeah, so the introductory rules are just one side of A4

642
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:05,000
and they make about as much sense as they do to any menu written in any language that you don't understand.

643
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:12,000
If you fancy trying to decipher them, we will put the photos on the Channel 84 blog for this episode.

644
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,000
That's true. I have taken a lot of pictures of all of the different elements.

645
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:22,000
So you can knock yourselves out looking at all this beautiful artwork created by strange people in Scotland

646
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,000
for the pleasure of nine and over age people.

647
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000
And the rest of our show notes.

648
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:33,000
Because there's a big thing of having sort of tabletop gaming being serialized,

649
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000
we thought we'd like in on that.

650
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,000
So we're serializing this by playing just 10 minutes at a time.

651
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,000
Yeah, because we have no original ideas and we like to steal things from other people.

652
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000
It was a lot easier than coming up with it.

653
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000
It's hard enough to come up with stuff for this show when most of this is robbed.

654
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,000
That's true, actually.

655
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Go on.

656
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,000
OK, so the basics of the game are...

657
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000
I'm going to be asking lots of questions as we go along.

658
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
Please don't ask me because I've read these rules.

659
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,000
I know I've read them several times and they still don't make an awful lot of sense.

660
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,000
But the premise is there are four expedition teams represented by different colors.

661
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000
Yellow, red, green and blue.

662
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,000
Japanese being yellow, I'm not going to comment on the appropriateness of that at all.

663
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Or inappropriateness of that at all.

664
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000
British are red, independent are green and American are blue.

665
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:26,000
So Adam has initially opted for red, but because of the way we're sat,

666
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,000
well stood on either side of the table, he's now blue and I'm red

667
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,000
because red is closer to me and I'm lazy.

668
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
Do you want to break down all the rules?

669
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Shall I read them for your pleasure?

670
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Yeah, I do need some help again.

671
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000
Yeah, OK, right.

672
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,000
I don't know how we even start. I've forgotten that much.

673
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000
Erm...

674
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,000
The objective of the four players take the role of competing expeditions in a race

675
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,000
to prove the existence of the Loch Ness Monster.

676
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,000
The game is played in short rounds during which, from their limited income,

677
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,000
expeditions, as in me and Adam, purchase and pay for running costs

678
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000
for the research equipment represented by transparencies.

679
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Now, these transparencies are flimsy bits of...

680
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
Overhead projector film.

681
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,000
Yeah. Can you hear? ASMR.

682
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
I think I'll just hear seagulls outside.

683
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000
That's true. We probably should close the window.

684
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000
So yeah, they're made of transparent plastic

685
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,000
and they've got things written on them like underwater camera.

686
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Sonar. Biological. Surface camera. Eye witness.

687
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,000
Only because we're playing the basic game, you don't use the eye witness ones,

688
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,000
which is helpful because that means we get to skip a whole load of stuff.

689
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000
These are deployed to best advantage upon the hexagons

690
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,000
marking up Loch Ness on the playing board.

691
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,000
For this introductory game, eye witness transparencies are not used.

692
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
See, I told you we didn't need those ones.

693
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Expeditions then move their coloured tokens by throw of dice

694
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000
around the loops on the corners of the board.

695
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Here they collect eye witness evidence, which we won't be requiring,

696
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,000
and experience the ups and downs of expedition life.

697
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,000
So in the top left, bottom right-hand corner of the board,

698
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000
you can't really tell what way the board is supposed to go up.

699
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,000
Anyway, there's these little P shapes

700
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,000
that have two different coloured tracks around them.

701
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,000
One is blue and green on one side, and the other is red and yellow on the other side.

702
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
And you put your country token little dude,

703
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,000
who I think they're holding binoculars.

704
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000
I personally thought they looked like Sasquatches to start off with,

705
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000
which I thought was funny.

706
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,000
Little munch screams.

707
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,000
So you place those on the little P's on the corner of the board,

708
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,000
and that is where we will travel around,

709
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,000
and depending on the squares we land on,

710
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:52,000
we will pick up evidence cards that will give us clues as to where Nessie may or may not be.

711
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,000
The tokens are then lifted to reveal the letter and numbers

712
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,000
indicating the positions of surfaced and submerged monsters.

713
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,000
Any equipment even slightly covering the monster hexes,

714
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,000
which is in block capitals by the way,

715
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,000
and with inverted commas either side.

716
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,000
They aren't really spells, they're put in the monsters.

717
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:20,000
Monster hexes entitles the owner to take and retain appropriate evidence cards

718
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000
which bear a points value.

719
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,000
The first expedition to reach 750 points or any other agreed score wins.

720
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,000
And then it gives you a bit of a blah blah blah about setting up the board

721
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000
and placing all the different evidence cards in different places.

722
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000
Which we've done.

723
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Which we've done, and we've doshed out the money.

724
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
The money's on my side of the board,

725
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:46,000
so I guess I'm going to be banker, although we haven't pre-agreed that.

726
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,000
You also get these fun little like three-dimensional plastic Nessie tokens.

727
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,000
There's like four that look like a little Diplodocus going for a swim,

728
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,000
and then there's one that is just...

729
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,000
A head and neck.

730
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,000
Yeah.

731
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Oh, what's the word I'm looking for?

732
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Phallic.

733
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Phallic.

734
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,000
So yeah, so we're set up, we're on the correct side of the board.

735
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000
And...

736
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Do we have to spend money to buy some equipment and stuff for us?

737
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Oh yeah, sorry, that's a good point. Hang on.

738
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Expeditions may only buy one piece of equipment per round.

739
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,000
All three surface cameras must be in use before buying any underwater equipment.

740
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:33,000
But thereafter, equipment may be discarded and repurchased in any order.

741
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:38,000
To move equipment, it is necessary to remove the transparency in one round

742
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,000
before repurchasing in the next.

743
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:47,000
All equipment is stored based, i.e. placed around points of the shore.

744
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,000
And then there's a bit about the biological and cage, but we haven't got the cage, so...

745
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:58,000
We also have tally sheets, which we fill in our own individual column.

746
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Oh, so we only really need one, because it's got all four countries on one tally sheet.

747
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,000
So we have tally sheets to complete, and then there is a summary card as well

748
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:14,000
that gives you ideas of how to progress through no less than nine short rounds of this game.

749
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,000
So yeah, wish us luck!

750
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Alright, so before we start, Stage 1.

751
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,000
Each player throws dice, even if currently missing a turn.

752
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:34,000
Number 2. Advance Expedition Leader Token anti-clockwise, even if missing a turn.

753
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Number 3. Take Logistics Card, even if you land on an asterisk square, but not if missing a turn.

754
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,000
Read the card aloud and act... What the...

755
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,000
We haven't even thrown a dice yet! I don't even know how to even start!

756
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,000
I think we should just roll a dice and see how it goes.

757
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Right, so...

758
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,000
I mean, we could skip the tally sheets and everything altogether, and just see where we end up.

759
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
We don't have to be professional gamers on Day 1, do we?

760
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:10,000
I don't know if that's going to help us keep track to find out who gets to do 750 first.

761
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,000
Oh, good point. Alright, let's fill in the card.

762
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000
Oh no.

763
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,000
Do you want to rock, paper, scissors for the roll of the first dice?

764
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,000
Ladies first.

765
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Oh, you're such a gentleman!

766
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,000
Okay, right, because I have a vagina and not a penis, I get to roll the dice first.

767
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,000
Oh, it's your game.

768
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000
That's true, it is.

769
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
Ooh, six!

770
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
What way round do I go?

771
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000
I think there's arrows, so...

772
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Ah, right, okay.

773
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,000
One, two, three, four, five, six.

774
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Right, I am on 6F.

775
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Now what do I do?

776
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,000
No idea.

777
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Oh bollocks.

778
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,000
Where's the rules again?

779
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Take the logistics card.

780
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Oh.

781
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000
I am taking a green...

782
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
Oh, hang on, if you land on an asterisk square...

783
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,000
No, no asterisks, it's just a plain old 6 and an F.

784
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Okay.

785
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000
Each player throws a dice.

786
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Advance expedition leader token anti-clockwise.

787
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,000
Take logistics card if you lead on an asterisk square, but not if missing a turn.

788
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Alright, I didn't land on an asterisk card, so that's the end of my turn.

789
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Okay.

790
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
One. Me neither.

791
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,000
This is going great so far.

792
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Oh, I didn't set the timer. Ten minutes.

793
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Oh bollocks!

794
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000
Right, okay, officially ten minutes.

795
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Right, three.

796
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
One, two, three, four D.

797
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
No asterisks.

798
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Something's going to happen soon.

799
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Four.

800
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
One, two, three, oh, four!

801
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,000
Whee!

802
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,000
Read the card aloud and act upon it.

803
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,000
So, logistics.

804
00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Sonar loan. Jim Hogan of Kelly Cruises in Venice is prepared to lend you New Atlantis, his sonar search vessel.

805
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,000
What's this 1987 product placement?

806
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Well, it says 1986 on the board, patent applied for.

807
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Oh.

808
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,000
I'm guessing they wrote the rules after they worked out what to do with the board.

809
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,000
Ah, yeah, good point.

810
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:23,000
This card gives you the option to take two pieces of equipment at the buying stage of this round, if you can manage the running costs.

811
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Present this card as payment in full for a sonar unit during the buying stage.

812
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,000
You may, if you wish, also buy another piece of equipment.

813
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,000
If you're already using both sonars, you must pass this card to the player on your left.

814
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,000
Sponsor.

815
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Yes.

816
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,000
Remember to add both sets of running costs on the tally sheet.

817
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,000
Yeah.

818
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000
So.

819
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000
You keep dropping your bits on the floor.

820
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Oh, pardon me. My sonar fell on the floor.

821
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,000
Yeah, so did your other one. Double sonar.

822
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Right, so I'm Team America.

823
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Yeah.

824
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,000
So I have got two sonar units for free.

825
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,000
Oh.

826
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,000
And I will buy another piece of equipment.

827
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,000
What would you like?

828
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,000
I will buy an underwater camera.

829
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,000
All the surface cameras have to be in use before you can use an underwater camera.

830
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,000
I will buy a surface camera.

831
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Well, I see one part of the rules stuck in my brain.

832
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Thank you very much.

833
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,000
So underwater.

834
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,000
No, surface camera is tenner.

835
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,000
Is ten pounds.

836
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,000
And it costs you twenty pounds per turn running cost.

837
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,000
So that'll be thirty pounds for the bank, please.

838
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,000
Oh, sorry.

839
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,000
Twenty pounds per turn running costs.

840
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,000
And how much is the sonar?

841
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,000
Sixty pounds.

842
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Yeah, but you have those for free.

843
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,000
I have to pay the running costs.

844
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,000
But you have to pay the running costs, which are forty per turn.

845
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,000
Oh, no, hang on. Mine are different then.

846
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Sorry, I've got different prices.

847
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,000
What?

848
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:17,000
So running costs. I've got the surface camera.

849
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,000
I'd like to officially say this makes no fucking sense.

850
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,000
I guess we got maybe backed by different teams.

851
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,000
Team USA. So I'm guessing the Americans are buying my equipment.

852
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Well, how do you know who's buying?

853
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000
We're representing different countries, aren't we?

854
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000
I know, but the card, the summary cards don't tell you that they're for a different country.

855
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,000
I assumed all four of them are the same.

856
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Oh, I thought you just checked. That's why we chose who we would claim them.

857
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Oh, right. No.

858
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,000
Sorry.

859
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,000
You'll have to do your own numbers.

860
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,000
I've got a round for the surface camera, two sonars.

861
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,000
It's costing me sixty quid.

862
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000
You haven't got that much money.

863
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000
One hundred and twenty.

864
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,000
I can only...

865
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,000
Do you have to pay the running costs for the purchase round?

866
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,000
Should we say you don't need to pay the running costs for the purchase round?

867
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,000
And that way you're not bankrupt before you've started?

868
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,000
Six minutes left.

869
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,000
I will not buy the camera, as I guess I can't afford to.

870
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,000
OK, cheapskate. Two free pieces of equipment.

871
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,000
Do you get to choose where to put them at?

872
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,000
One twenty.

873
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,000
So how much money? One hundred and fifty, wasn't it, my money?

874
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,000
No, you've got fifty, not one hundred and fifty.

875
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,000
Oh.

876
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,000
Is it supposed to be one hundred and fifty?

877
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,000
Oh, in that case I can't afford to even run them.

878
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000
Oh my God.

879
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,000
This game is complicated. It's like Monopoly and doing the actual proper rules of Monopoly.

880
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000
Issue each player with fifty pounds.

881
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
Four times ten, two times five.

882
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
And a summary card.

883
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Do not follow the summary rules on the summary card.

884
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,000
These are basic game. Blah, blah, blah.

885
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000
Take income of one hundred and fifty.

886
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Oh, so you're owed one hundred and fifty because this is your second round.

887
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,000
We're both owed one hundred and fifty.

888
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Come on, Lord. This is why I don't work in a bank.

889
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000
There's got to be an easier way to play this game.

890
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,000
This is even the beginner level.

891
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,000
The beginner rules were so dense we've had to read them three times now.

892
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,000
Yeah, and the rest.

893
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:22,000
OK, so you've now got two hundred pounds because you've got your initial fifty and one hundred and fifty for that round.

894
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,000
And I've also given myself one hundred and fifty for my second round.

895
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,000
Right, so just to get this going and just to get to end this bloody game, there's one hundred and twenty.

896
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,000
Take that back. Oh, do I get to put two sonars in?

897
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,000
Yes, you do.

898
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,000
Anyway, you fancy I guess where the point is.

899
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,000
I think the point has to be on the land, maybe.

900
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,000
Oh, he's let me search vessel.

901
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Oh, so you can put them wherever you want them.

902
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,000
So I guess the point is where you are and the wider it is, is that's your scope for.

903
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,000
So I'm going to go.

904
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,000
It's gone north and south or east and west, depending on which way you look at the board.

905
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,000
Right, my go. Yes.

906
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,000
Yeah. Excellent.

907
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,000
Four, one, two, three, four.

908
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,000
What is that? No, nothing for me again.

909
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,000
OK, I'm going to be at a money now.

910
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:20,000
Six, one, two, three, four, five, six.

911
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:25,000
So before I've got the star card, before we do anything, we'll take some money.

912
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000
Give you some more dollar.

913
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Do I need to organize myself better?

914
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:36,000
This is your round. There's my round.

915
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,000
I've got to owe you that running costs for my son.

916
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

917
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,000
Right. The only one that makes any money in these games is the bank.

918
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:50,000
And so I've got a card on the star thing.

919
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,000
Highlands and Islands Development Board Research Grant.

920
00:47:54,000 --> 00:48:02,000
Give you an outright cash grant equal to the purchase price of all the equipment you are not using at this time.

921
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:07,000
Oh, if you have all the equipment in use, then you receive no grant.

922
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,000
So you get a grant to cover all of this shit.

923
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:16,000
Yeah. So I've got a grant.

924
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,000
Oh, so I just get it for free then.

925
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:24,000
Well, I don't get running costs. It's going to if it's a grant for it, I guess it just.

926
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,000
No, they give you the grant for the equipment and they're not giving you the grant for the running costs.

927
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,000
Stop trying to get out of paying your bills.

928
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,000
But anyway, how much is the value of all of your equipment?

929
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Because I need to give you that much in money.

930
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,000
We haven't got time for this.

931
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000
So.

932
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000
Oh, hang on.

933
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:45,000
Two underwater, three surface, one biological.

934
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,000
Camera.

935
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,000
Oh, surface camera.

936
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,000
That's.

937
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Thirty.

938
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000
Biological.

939
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:08,000
Fifty.

940
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Two underwater cameras, 50 each.

941
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:24,000
Twenty.

942
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,000
Three.

943
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000
Running costs.

944
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,000
So I need to give you three hundred.

945
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,000
And then twenty.

946
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,000
And then eighty.

947
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,000
See, I was way too slow on that.

948
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Shocking. Who's to play darts as well?

949
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000
There you go. There's your grant money.

950
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,000
You get and I get to put these things out as well.

951
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,000
No, no.

952
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000
Unless you are.

953
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000
That's technically the end of your round.

954
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000
So you can.

955
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:02,000
I suppose you could buy them now because you've got the money to do that.

956
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
They are already.

957
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,000
No, no, no.

958
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:11,000
This space where all of your transparencies are is a bucket where all of the kit is kept.

959
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:16,000
And then you have to pay the sponsor to give you the kit.

960
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,000
So now you have the money to be able to purchase the kit.

961
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,000
You just don't have the kit.

962
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,000
I didn't need to purchase it.

963
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000
No, it was a grant.

964
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Yeah.

965
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,000
Yeah.

966
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Giving you a grant equal to the purchase price of all the equipment that you're not using.

967
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
Sorry, so I have to give you this money back on the next round.

968
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,000
Yes.

969
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Sorry, I get it.

970
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,000
So if you want to use the equipment, then you have to give me money.

971
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,000
Sorry, sorry. I get it.

972
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,000
Right. My turn?

973
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,000
Yeah, yeah.

974
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,000
OK.

975
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,000
Ten minutes.

976
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,000
Right. What do you do?

977
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,000
F**k all.

978
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,000
Stop.

979
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:53,000
Oh dear.

980
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,000
I can see myself getting into this.

981
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,000
I feel like it could get quite competitive.

982
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,000
I don't understand what we're doing at all.

983
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:06,000
Maybe then if there's a third player or something, it might be a bit more of a round feeling to it.

984
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,000
Maybe we should get Jackson over or something.

985
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,000
We can't at this point. We have to restart.

986
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,000
No, I'm not doing that.

987
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:20,000
No.

988
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:27,000
I'm going to apologize in advance. My blocked nose will get worse and worse as that game goes on.

989
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,000
I didn't notice at the time.

990
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:34,000
Oh, I was very aware of it. Just the sensation in the back of my head.

991
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:40,000
Right. This is my contribution for the Biblio 10 segment.

992
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,000
You don't know what this is.

993
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,000
No, I don't know what this is. He's genuinely taking it out of a packet right now.

994
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:50,000
I bought this. I don't know how likely used technically this is.

995
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:56,000
Our very first show, I could be breaking our rules of having something pre-loved, pre-owned.

996
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,000
But it's out of print as far as I know.

997
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:04,000
Right. Did you buy it as a new copy or is it a pre-owned copy? Did it come off like Amazon or Abe?

998
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,000
I've got no idea where I got this.

999
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,000
OK.

1000
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000
Oh, it's We Buy Books.

1001
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,000
OK.

1002
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,000
It's the Innovations catalog book.

1003
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,000
Oh, amazing.

1004
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,000
I think it was three pounds.

1005
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,000
Oh, I would say that that is a pre-loved book.

1006
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:27,000
But there's no signs of wear and tear on it at all.

1007
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000
It's not as good as I thought.

1008
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:34,000
I've had a quick flick through just to see if I had a history of any product.

1009
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:40,000
We know we sold a load of shit. It's 20 years since the magazine shut down.

1010
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,000
But these are some of the biggest sellers. This is a bit of a story behind it.

1011
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,000
No, it's not. Not that.

1012
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,000
The book itself looks pretty cool.

1013
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,000
Opening up and you've got Innovations Report order form. It's got the old phone numbers and stuff in there.

1014
00:52:53,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Exactly. When you had the Innovations catalog and in the back, it's got all the order forms and examples of products.

1015
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,000
A fax number. My goodness.

1016
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,000
Do you know when it was printed?

1017
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,000
Yeah. First published in Britain 2004.

1018
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,000
Oh, right. OK.

1019
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,000
It does have a disclaimer. The items in this book are not available for sale.

1020
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,000
The order form is for illustrative purposes only and the address and telephone numbers are no longer valid.

1021
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000
Oh, boo.

1022
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:27,000
But if anyone wants to have a look on Google to see if EuroAway Business Park Swindon SN58SN still exists,

1023
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:32,000
the Innovations won't be there, but it doesn't say which unit they were either.

1024
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:37,000
So anyone going there or if they still exist and work there, you could be working in the old Innovations warehouse.

1025
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:42,000
And if you do work in the old Innovations warehouse, why don't you let us know?

1026
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:49,000
So it's essentially the best of the Innovations catalog. We've broken it down to the sections.

1027
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Gadgets and technology, garden and DIY, household, well-being, leisure, cars and travel and pets.

1028
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,000
Pretty much just like the old Innovations catalog.

1029
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,000
Is this Innovations for pets or are they new, innovated pets?

1030
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000
We'll have to get to the segment now.

1031
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,000
They could have robot pets in there. They could be the first outing of the IBO.

1032
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:16,000
The very first item they've got, it's essentially a reproduction of the adverts,

1033
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,000
but they've still having pages making them look like they're from the Innovations catalog.

1034
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:26,000
One single advert right in the middle of the page.

1035
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:32,000
And they haven't made it bigger so you can see it easier. It's pretty much the same size font.

1036
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:39,000
Yeah, I mean I've not got my glasses on and I don't have terrible eyesight, but I can't read that.

1037
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,000
It's smaller than the smallest print you have to read when you go and get an eye test.

1038
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:50,000
It's called the Visionix Sound Effects Mixer.

1039
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,000
So it adds professional sound effects to your videos.

1040
00:54:53,000 --> 00:55:01,000
And the professional effects they've given, as examples, smash, splat, whoosh, you know.

1041
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,000
All the professional noises.

1042
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:10,000
Yeah, like proper Batman style, like in little explosion bubbles and things like that.

1043
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,000
They're actually calling it the Boing Box.

1044
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,000
Boing, Boing Box.

1045
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:20,000
Bring extra humour and interest to your home video productions with this superb Boing Box Sound Effects Mixer.

1046
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,000
Boing Box contains 59 digitalised sound effects, plus electronic tunes and arcade sounds

1047
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:30,000
so you can call up at the touch of a button, add a barking dog, creaking door, applause, laughter,

1048
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000
breaking glass, etc.

1049
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,000
Or play around with the special effects facility to modify the built-in sounds,

1050
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,000
giving you literally thousands of different sound effects to choose from.

1051
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:45,000
It's a three channel audio mixer. You can add narration or music from tape, CD, record or another VCR.

1052
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,000
Help you pirate videos.

1053
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,000
£249.95.

1054
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000
Bargain.

1055
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,000
Oh, Virtual Vision TV.

1056
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,000
Wow.

1057
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,000
It's essentially, it looks like a ski mask head glasses thing.

1058
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,000
Yeah, really big glasses, really big visor lens.

1059
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,000
Rappel and visor sort of thing.

1060
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:14,000
Very super 90s with earphones plugged into it and a very, very discreet something the size of a Discman,

1061
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,000
but about eight times the thickness that you'd wear on your belt.

1062
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,000
Yeah, but I bet that doesn't skip when you go for a jog.

1063
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,000
Well, this guy's not going for a jog in his turtleneck and chiness.

1064
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000
Yeah, no, he's definitely not.

1065
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:32,000
Astonishing Virtual Vision TV. It's technological innovation you're unlikely to have ever seen before.

1066
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:37,000
It frees TV from the conventional box to place television within your personal vision.

1067
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,000
It's on these glasses that you're wearing around.

1068
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,000
£999.

1069
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,000
Jesus Christ!

1070
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000
Right, was it pets? Oh, well, good.

1071
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,000
Oh, hang on a minute. Glamour, suspenders, stockings. Is that a man?

1072
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:56,000
It's opening on the interesting pages. It's opening on the underwear pages.

1073
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:01,000
I used to go through the little boys catalogue to look at the underwear pages when I was a kid.

1074
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:06,000
This has opened onto a Quintex lace body stocking. Only £999.

1075
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,000
God, they cost more than that now.

1076
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,000
That's definitely a lady. She's hiding her bosoms.

1077
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000
It could be man bosoms.

1078
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,000
No, I've seen my own. It's not. They don't look different.

1079
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,000
We were looking for the pets, wasn't it?

1080
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,000
I want to see an innovated pet, please.

1081
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,000
Car and travel.

1082
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,000
No, that's not pets.

1083
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,000
Pets, pets, pets.

1084
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,000
Take your cat out for walkies. A cat leash harness. £999.

1085
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,000
That's not very innovative.

1086
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,000
It says, go on, give it a try. Your cat could absolutely love it.

1087
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,000
Emphasis on the could.

1088
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,000
Yeah, that needs to be underlined and italic.

1089
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,000
A seatbelt for a dog. A clockwork cat feeder.

1090
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,000
If you're going on a holiday and stuff like that.

1091
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,000
No innovations in the world of actual breeding of pets.

1092
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,000
No, they haven't come up with a new style of pet.

1093
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,000
They could be saving it. What's this? Nick Biggs. He's in the pet section.

1094
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,000
He worked for 10 years as a copywriter.

1095
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,000
That's good for a pet.

1096
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,000
Yeah. Who's a good boy?

1097
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,000
Who's a good boy?

1098
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,000
He was a good boy.

1099
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000
Good book.

1100
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,000
Hopefully we get some grant money now for that.

1101
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,000
We've included a book in our podcast.

1102
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,000
Nice little hardcover A5.

1103
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,000
Give us that money, Arthur.

1104
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,000
100-ish page. Not an awful lot to read.

1105
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,000
Just a bit of fun. Like it.

1106
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,000
Thank you very, very much for listening.

1107
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,000
Thanks for your patience.

1108
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:38,000
Yeah. Most especially thank you for your patience.

1109
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,000
We can't promise this won't be a car crash of a podcast,

1110
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,000
but we can promise you that we will do our utmost best

1111
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:51,000
to not only keep ourselves, but your lovely selves entertained as well.

1112
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,000
Wish us luck.

1113
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,000
You can find all our show notes on the channel 84 blog.

1114
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,000
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1115
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:03,000
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1116
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,000
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1117
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:13,000
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1118
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:19,000
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1119
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,000
That's the plan.

1120
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1121
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1122
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,000
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1123
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1124
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:34,000
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1125
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,000
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1126
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1127
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