This is Lightly Used with Adam and Karen.
Hello, I'm Adam.
And I'm Karen.
We share a love of charity shop mooching and this is where we talk about what we've seen
and show off some of our treasured tat.
Lovely.
We actually did go mooching today in Lethlie.
Yeah, we did.
It was 80s day or something.
80s fest.
It was not the most sensible day for parking in the centre of town.
I don't know what's going on in my town.
I should have known before Warner's.
It's going to be busy today.
Well, we could have gone to the Monster Truck Festival and the Hot Air Balloon Festival in Margam.
But yeah, the charity shops were calling.
So we ended up in Llanelli.
And town was just rammed full of people that we all thought were on a hen party.
No, it was neon fish tights, fishnet tights and gloves and neon hair bands and crimped hair galore.
A lot of the time we have been out.
I've not actually bought anything, but I did today.
I did.
You did. You were right.
Let me reach in with the shelf.
Don't hit the mic.
The shelf. Oh tat.
I bought two things.
I bought and we'll be putting photos of these on the show blog.
Also, thank you. Thank you very, very much to Tom and Rob for inviting us to join Studio Channel 84.
The only times we usually take part in anything is when we have to get dressed up for the filming the USS Shit Show.
Yeah.
My costume's way too tight.
Well, you know, you didn't go to Garak for your seam letting, did you?
I've asked about adjustments, but no, it's continuity or something.
I'm stuck with it.
Anyway, what did you buy?
Thank you very, very much, guys.
Yeah. Cheers, Tom and Rob. Sorry.
Not just ignoring the fact that Adam was doing a huge thank you to you there, but you already know I'm grateful and I text you a million times a day.
Thank you, love you both. Love you. Bye.
But yeah, my first purchase today was a Matchbox ride on lawn mower toy.
Oh, it's a Matchbox.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
No, Hot Wheels.
Oh.
Sorry.
It's a Hot Wheels Grass Chomper - 2015 Mattel, so I'll put a photo of that on the show blog and Keith Haring Hat.
Yes, we very much like the baseball cap.
I've been looking because I'm going a bit bald.
Hang on. It's a bit too big for my head.
I don't know if I look good in caps or not.
You look good in that one.
I'm very conscious that my ears stick out.
I'm not usually a hat wearer of any kind.
It feels weird having, oh, my ears are poking out.
Really quite petite ears, actually. I've never noticed until you just pointed them out.
That's really funny.
Is that a compliment?
Yeah. I mean, your ears do continue growing as you get older, along with your nose are the only two things.
You're looking very, yeah.
Oh, it bodes well for me being 90 then.
Yeah, no, you're looking good.
There's some room for my ears to grow into.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
But yeah, it was, was it YMCA? We both got both of these.
It was the YMCA.
Five pounds, nice purple and black Keith Haring hat with a red heart and a pink square background.
Photos again, we'll be on the show blog along with our share notes.
And show blogs and things like that will be found via the Studio Channel 84 link website.
But we also have a website with the likely used address, which will ping you over to Channel 84 and take you directly to our things.
Likelyuse.co.uk.
So that's what we'll be in up to today. And we've also got photos of, we're going back to 80s Fest.
Yes.
I nearly forgot the main thing.
I know.
We saw replica kit and DeLorean from Back to the Future.
We did. And they were really cool.
Oh yeah.
I mean, like I wanted to sit in the DeLorean because the doors are open, but there were very clear barriers saying, do not enter the vehicle.
People will go in and press buttons.
Yes.
Or they'll try to get up to 88 miles an hour.
And I would have been really tempted to steal that alarm clock that was on the dashboard.
So, you know, magpie Karen best avoided.
Props.
Yeah. But they were ace.
Yeah. Loads of photos taken.
We'll stick some of them on the website and I'll probably write some bumps about it as well.
Just to bore you all a little bit more.
I was really surprised how small the actual Trans Am was.
It was, I was expecting it to be American car size, but was it just so used to all the cars now being that big?
Yeah. Well, you know, in general, small cars don't really exist anymore, do they?
But I mean, it looked a manageable size.
It did. But you would only have got one dead body in the boot.
And also it would have been easy to see there's no parcel shelf.
Yeah, that's true.
So all the tapper head in there, some number plates and oil and some rags to keep the car going.
There was a wig as well that looks suspiciously like the one that we stole from Bifo at the live show last year.
That was given to us.
One of the many things thrown in our direction.
But more recently, we've seen Kit and the Bek the Teacher car.
Yes. And it was a very nice day to be out and about looking at 80s cars.
So on the show, we're going to be comparing some of our treasured tat, being likely used not necessarily always from a charity shop.
It could be something that in my case I've found in the cupboard under the stairs or something that maybe not even belonged to me from the attic of this house.
Interesting.
There are some things up there.
Yeah, I mean, I've got a couple of things from childhood that for some reason and through some miracle and about 17 house moves, I've managed to keep in my possession from the age of about 10.
So, you know, they may feature at some point.
One of them is definitely a big gun.
No.
Not like a bang, bang, bang, bang gun.
For those of you that can't see me, I'm actually holding an imaginary rifle now, pointing it at Adam's face.
Good space work.
And pulling the trigger, bang, bang, bang.
No, like, you know, like pulling out the big guns.
I'm going to get you.
An item of immense interest.
To me.
OK.
Also, we've got a game section.
Yes, we do.
You poor people.
I need to apologise in advance because we recorded this last week.
Yeah, we recorded the gameplay last week.
Both of us are suffering with hay fever.
Yeah, me particularly, especially as it goes on, it gets worse and worse.
So apologies for any sniffling or sneezing.
Adam has tried to get rid of an awful lot of it, but due to me over talking him all of the time, some of that has had to have been kept in for continuity purposes.
Apologies.
I don't know if you've met Arthur at Channel 84.
I think he might have been one of the creativity sort of...
He said his name was Art and then after everything after that, my head just blanked out.
I don't know if I was just staring at it.
I don't know if it might have been just for two seconds or it could have been 30 seconds when he was talking.
I was just going off going, ah, I've never actually met anyone called Art.
It was like the bit in The Simpsons where Homer's brain with the monkey smashing the cymbals.
I'm sure it was just a blank expression on my face and in my head, it's Art Garfunkel.
Try and think more of Art.
And then I realised what was going on and I kind of caught myself.
So I've got no idea.
But apparently we've got some sort of grants to include, you want us to include literary section.
Oh, lovely.
Bibliotech.
Because we always come, always looking at books in the charity shops.
Yes.
And I've got absolutely loads in my house from years gone by.
Some of them not necessarily mine.
At least a few of them my grandmother let me borrow before she died and I can't give them back.
Let's put it that way.
Yeah, fair enough.
So yeah.
So what you've really done is accept a grant on our behalf for purchasing books to include in the bibliotech section.
But you've just pocketed the money and now you just read the books you've already had hiding a cupboard for 20 years.
It might have been mention of cash but I had tuned anything out all I heard was his name was Art.
And we've got to include some literary sort of thing.
OK, so do you want to go first?
I will go first.
Yes, thank you very much.
I hope we should explain this next segment.
We've both got large boxes concealing our featured items that we're just going to show off to each other.
But bearing in mind we've both been around to each other's houses.
We've both seen our shelves of tats.
We all know roughly what we own but we don't know what of our possessions we're bringing to show off and talk about today.
But yeah, you'll go first.
Do you want to put the box on the floor or on your lap?
I'm going to hold it on my lap for a second while I open the lid.
That's the key with the back.
ASMR purposes.
Oh God, I'm left handed.
That way. There we are.
Right.
Here are my notes because I didn't remember these things by heart.
Right, close your eyes.
Okay, I'm looking away as well.
Okay, closing the lid.
Click.
Right, open your hands but not your eyes.
Tell me what you feel.
Oh, it feels pencil casey.
Sorry, a metal pencil case sort of size thing.
Maybe a bit bigger.
Could be a biscuity tin.
If it was a biscuit tin it would be here.
It would be in my place with biscuits in it.
It's got a hinge.
It's a pressed tin box with a hinge on one side.
Can I feel what's inside?
Maybe open your eyes now, actually.
Oh, I remember when you got these.
You went straight to these in the charity shop.
Yeah, I did.
It was a pair of welding goggles.
That's right.
Yeah, welding goggles.
Yeah, welders goggles.
Very, very old with a rubber racing goggles mask to put on your face.
Various thicknesses of glasses.
Really old.
I don't know what that is.
Oh, yes, we did work out what this is.
Sorry, yes.
This is Nixie Tube.
It's one of those old vacuum formed fluorescent displays
with a seven segment display of a figure eight.
That counts down.
Oh, I've got a bomb component.
What component?
The ones that you see on really cool 70s countdown machinery,
possibly a little bit older.
Tell me more about this.
What have you found out?
OK, so about the actual goggles, not that much.
They do nothing.
Because the internet isn't great when you're looking for things
like vocal goggles and lenses.
You type in that and you just get a load of vintage websites coming up,
going, oh, buy these vocal goggles and lenses.
And I'm like, OK, I'll click on this link, see if it gives me any history
about the item.
No.
Try the next one.
Same thing.
No information.
Just that they're not available anymore, but you can still see that they were for sale.
So, yeah, these were found in the British Heart Foundation in Swansea.
It's the smallest charity shop we've got.
And the actual tat section is probably smaller than my tat shelves at home.
But anyway, it's a lovely little shop, and the ladies and gents that work there
are always charming.
So you've got a very nice red metal tin with a hinged back.
It says BOC, vocal goggles and lenses on the lid.
You open it.
As you said, you've got the leather strap, lens holders with the elastic that goes
around the back of your head.
There's different lenses.
There's some other bits and pieces in there.
There's some welding tips as well, which are kind of cool,
but they're really dirty and horrible, so don't like touching them.
Lovely colours, though.
Yeah, really nice colours.
And also there is...
Protect your eyes!
Yes, protect your eyes with vocal goggles, the British Oxygen Company Limited.
Vocal goggles, maybe.
Vocal? Vocal?
No, because there's a hat over the O, so there's no emphasis on the A.
It could be bockel.
Bockel goggles?
Bockel?
Bockel goggle.
Oh, that's fun to say.
Bockel goggle.
I think it might be the...
Because the BOC, the British Oxygen Company,
might have had a weird pronunciation of the O.
Yeah, maybe.
But anyway, yeah.
So there's like an A4 piece, well, almost an A4 piece of paper on the inside
telling you what the goggles are for, what the different lenses are for,
what kind of light they block.
And they also tell you that the instructions were revised in December 1963.
So I think these goggles are circa around 63, 64,
which I'm really impressed with because the leather themselves,
the press sort of rubberised leather lens holders, are in really good condition.
The only thing that's really suffered anything is the elastic on one side.
The other side has still got a bit of stretch, but the other side has perished
and the clip isn't great.
But otherwise, they're in good nick.
So, bockel goggles and lenses, circa December 63.
We've got the goggles strap, we've got the lenses.
This set came with a set of clear lenses and the green lenses.
So the different lenses for depending on what tasks you're performing with the glasses.
Yeah, so the different lenses block out different kinds of radiation,
infrared, general light and ultraviolet.
So the green lenses block out the ultraviolet, I believe.
There's clear lenses for general light.
Safety.
And I'm not sure what lenses you get for the infrared.
Oh, a light tint, but we've got dark tint and no tint in this box.
But they came in four different tints, light, intermediate, dark and clear.
So I don't know if there's some lenses actually missing from the kit itself.
It's probably very likely because they're not exactly thick pieces of glass.
I do, however, think with the one green lens that I've got left,
you'll be able to look at the next eclipse through it.
Solar eclipse.
This isn't medical advice.
No, this is not medical advice.
Check the rating on your welding goggles if you're using it to look at eclipses.
OK, all right.
I mean, this particular piece of glass I'm drawing in front of me right now.
I mean, I'm never going to look at a flipping eclipse anyway.
I'm never around to see them.
I'm usually asleep.
But I did put a little asterisk, don't stare at the sun.
But I'm recommending that if ever you get hold of this one piece of green glass off of me,
you can stare at the sun through it, but only in the case of a total solar eclipse.
And, you know, don't sue me.
The goggles are made for use over glasses,
because obviously a lot of people that work with their hands have a lot of close vision tasks
and that can affect your eyesight.
And as you get older, you tend to wear glasses.
So this rubberized leather strap was designed
so that you could place it over your standard lenses and still be comfortable.
I don't know if it would work with modern day shaped glasses.
But I mean, they go over your glasses.
That's upside down by the way.
That's over my glasses.
Yeah, but you know, so that was good because for a lot of people, they have to do a trade off.
You choose to wear your glasses and hope you don't get a spark in the eye,
or you choose to wear your welding goggles,
but you don't have as good a vision because you have to take your sight glasses off.
So this gives you a happy medium between the two.
And then just a little bit of history really about BOC,
which is Britain's Oxygen Company,
originally named Brin's Oxygen Company Limited.
They were established in 1886 by two French brothers, Arthur and Leon Brin,
hence Brin's company.
They primarily manufactured oxygen using high temperature barium oxide,
known as the Brin process.
And the main application for that was use in limelight and magic lanterns and theatre lighting.
Now, I thought Wikipedia was lying to me when it said about limelight
because I'm not the smartest person and I don't work as a stage star or a stagehand.
And I always thought limelight was just a saying, like, oh, you're in the limelight.
That's exactly where it comes from.
But it is a real thing.
So thank you, Wikipedia and BOC for my minor piece of education.
In 1903, the development of oxyacetylene welding and cryogenic air separation,
turn my page over,
process replaced the use of barium oxide.
And that meant that new types of safety wear is required
because you needed to be able to block that light.
Veprated PPE was needed.
Yes, yes. Oh, yeah. Well done. Well said.
In 1906, the Brin brothers renamed the company, the British Oxygen Company, or BOC for short.
And then during World War I, BOC increased the mass production of war machinery.
So their goggles and welding equipment and things like that were pumped into the industry
to be able to create things like ships, tanks and trucks.
They weren't building weapons as far as I know.
That's not what Wikipedia tells me anyway.
And if any of this is wrong, I've either read it out wrong, written it down wrong or Wikipedia is wrong.
And then in World War II, BOC provided gases for munitions and medical needs.
So slightly different trajectory there.
In the 1960s and 70s, BOC's expanded their company into refrigeration.
And BOC became part of Lind Group in September 2006,
making it the group market leader in refrigeration and gases.
So, yeah, the goggles themselves, I'm really sorry.
I must have said sorry about a thousand times already.
But not an awful lot of information online about them in particular.
I couldn't find anybody that had written about using them or anything like that.
But BOC themselves as a company, they've got quite an interest in history.
So it just gave me an excuse to just write some bullet points down and talk about guns and ships and tanks and welding.
They're essentially standard welding goggles, but who made them is the more interesting.
They're not fancy, but they are a bit of vintage cool wear.
And I suppose if you were into steampunk, they would look really good on top of a top hat.
A brown leather one.
And BOC is still around today, as you said.
They are indeed and still a market leader in whatever it is that they do these days.
So that's my item.
Very nice. My turn.
Yes, bring it on.
OK, so I guess you close your eyes and hold out your hands if that's what we're doing.
Open your box, darling.
All right. Hold your hands out.
They're open and held.
That sounds big.
Oh, it feels big.
That's what they all say.
It also feels plastic.
Yeah, that's not what they all say.
Well, in my experience.
This has suspiciously ended up in my hands a little bit like that imaginary rifle I was shooting you with.
So it's either a gun or a drill, but feeling the tip.
There seems to be a slight bump there, a slight ridge, which could be a sight line.
So I'm going it's a gun.
And it's plastic and I've not opened my eyes yet and I don't know if I've seen it.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, because I want to say something.
I want to say something.
It's probably not going to be true because I don't think I've seen this of yours.
But it feels very much like a Tomy toy.
So I kind of want it to be like white and blue or with a bit of red.
But it's probably going to be black.
No.
Can I open my eyes now?
Oh, it's green. I was made by Tiger.
Oh, it's not just a gun.
It's an LCD tank game.
Oh, my God.
Where did you find this?
It's a I was given it.
It's a horribly annoying noise.
Go for it.
So on the batteries working.
Oh, no, I've broken it.
Everybody hang on.
The batteries might just be flat.
Just give them a warm up.
I do have some extra batteries.
I did wonder why you were making sure that was unrelated.
Coincidentally, it's because my wireless keyboard's been absolutely naked.
I've been able to type a handful of things that goes.
There you go.
Oh, wow.
Oh, my God.
Before you play it.
How does it work?
I've got to get my dossier out.
You've got a dossier.
Yes.
Do not people, he has got multiple pages of A4 color printed, which means to me he printed this at work.
Of course I've printed.
I don't have a printer of my own.
That's all.
I've got to use it.
Oh, yeah, that's a good point.
But it's a Tiger Electronics 1988 Tank Attack.
Oh, my God.
It's so cool.
In this instance, being a child and making it look more combat and stealthy and also a bit spacey,
I've colored over a bunch of the stickers with a permanent marker or gold pen.
But the gold and green kind of look quite good.
Yeah, they do look good together.
It's a natural combination.
It just looks a bit more spacey.
It also says patent pending.
Do you think it's still pending from 1988?
They might have won that patent by now.
Originally, it also had a base.
I've never had this little base for the front handle.
As you could play.
It looks like it was probably snapped off.
Yeah, it's always been like that since I've owned it.
But you could put it on the tabletop and use that as a turret to save holding it in both hands.
That is so cool.
Now, I got this when I was a kid.
A friend gave it to me because I helped him with his paper round a bunch.
Now, I moved to my house in Gowerton around 1987, 88 or 89.
Right.
100%.
When we moved in, my dad laid cement, redid the back garden, laid cement path.
He put the year and my sister and I put our initials in the wet cement.
That's really sweet.
It's paved over now.
Never mind.
They had a resin pathway put in the back.
Did you actually Sharpie your name and address on the bottom of this?
No, I don't do that.
I don't do that.
It's the first show.
I wasn't going to read it out.
I was just asking.
If it got lost around my neighborhood or anything because we used to play army and stuff as kids.
Genius.
Or if any of my mates had it, that's definitely mine.
It's got my name on it.
It would have been maybe 89, 90.
So it might have been a few years old.
It was given to me by my mate Andrew.
So for helping to do his paper round.
It still works.
So very, very annoying, but it is surprisingly engaging.
So I've popped a couple of batteries in it to test it.
And I got to level six just trying it out.
Nice.
I only got hit once.
All right.
Okay.
Is this a record I need to be?
Yeah.
Do you want to give it a go?
Yeah.
How does it work?
Let's not give it up to level six because it's going to be far too annoying.
Okay.
So it'll be that'll be a crosshairs on the front that stays the same, but you can use
that to move left and right and you'll see the front hand grip rotates.
Sometimes if you move too far, there'll be, oh, I didn't see a tank there on the side
and it'll be right in front of you before you know it.
Okay.
Oh sugar.
It's going.
There's no sound.
No, die, die, die.
Oh, I'm dead already.
How do I know if it shot them?
Oh, they explode.
There you go.
Oh, that's me dying.
I might try to get some battery.
I got 300 points and that is awful.
And there's no sound to help you.
It's going to be so annoying with the sound, but it's proof of concept.
See if it does work.
There's no sound.
Oh, there we go.
So can you, he got me.
Oh, he did.
Can you move lanes just out of their way or do you have to destroy them?
Oh yeah, you can move out the way.
So if it's off the screen, they can't see you.
So you could just dodge every single tank and get through all levels without actually
destroying anything.
Yeah.
But do you only score points for, oh no, cause that's still going up.
Oh, you score points for distance.
I think there's a countdown there of how many tanks, I think it's going to be 25 tanks on
the level.
I think it was 13 in the first level.
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it was.
You have to do the noises for me.
Oh, you got dead.
Shame the sound doesn't work.
Was it working before?
Yeah.
That was not me farting.
That's me adjusting my position on the sofa.
That sounds worse.
Try it one more time.
Adam is faffing with buttons to see if there's a secret code to get the volume to work.
It's only got one volume loud.
No, you definitely know it if it's working.
Well, either way, it is a supremely cool item that you've now just confiscated from me.
Oh, oh, sorry.
I want to handle your gun some more.
I found one on eBay.
It's sold in Belgium.
Spider!
Sorry.
Oh, it's only a little one.
I don't know why I freaked out so much.
It's tiny.
Carry on.
I'll deal with the mite.
I found one listed on eBay.
It's sold in Belgium in April 2024 without the box.
It did have the stand and the battery door, which mine doesn't have.
In the pictures, it looked like a small but chunky rail mount.
OK.
No, no, carry on.
Sorry, I'm distracting Adam with my tiny spider antics.
Oh, I'll show you a photo of the box.
There we go.
That's the box.
If you've got it new in the shop.
Oh, my God.
That is so cool.
It looks like something out of Terminator or something.
It does.
If I can put this as the show notes, I will as well.
Yeah, that's a great idea.
Lightning Rod Labs box art.
That one's missing the base two that they're selling.
Oh, yes.
It's not in the same way or?
No, the clips are still there on this one.
Oh, right.
The box says, use tank attack to hunt out and destroy enemy tanks.
You don't hunt them out.
They're dry.
You're pretty much staying still hunting you out on your.
Yeah.
All that either or they're still driving towards you.
Realistic firing sounds and explosions, which I wish I could have demonstrated to you today.
You have to take their word for it.
My 'pew-pew-'.
=pews' weren't a bad substitute.
They're more realistic than these ones.
It was just really low chip tune sort of like birthday cards of that high quality.
Unique scrolling display feel changes the move.
Use tank attack in capital letters left and right.
Nine levels of difficulty.
If I don't have three more levels to go, I would have carried on playing.
I would have beaten the game.
LCD action game with super sounds, exciting sound effects.
Again, you'll just have to take their word for it.
I will have to believe you on the sound effects.
But it is it is fabulous.
It is a chunky beast of a boy that I am kind of envious of.
I mean, we would never have had any of anything like this in our house when we were kids.
Primarily because it was three girls and one boy.
But also, you know, we didn't really I mean, we didn't really do Halloween, let alone guns and bows and arrows and stuff like that in our family.
So, yeah, but that would have been something that maybe one of my male cousins might have had.
And I would have gone around their house and snuck a go of it every now and then.
It is awesome.
And for cool points, hands down, it in my opinion beats the goggles.
You bastard.
And I got it for free.
Even worse.
So thank you very much, Andrew Yelland from when I was 10.
You went to my school.
Bless you.
You're such a lovely boy.
I did kind of work for it.
I was just saying in exchange for helping out in this paper round.
And incidentally, the goggles cost me a tenner.
But I still think they're worth every penny because they're a really cool little thing.
They're a really unique item.
Nice little objet d'art.
I win?
Yeah.
Yay!
But, you know, if you feel sorry for me, feel free to comment somewhere on social media that the goggles were actually worth talking about.
Yeah.
Can people comment on the blog?
If they can, do it.
Yeah, if you can comment on the blogs, feel free.
If not, we are on social media and Adam will tell you what the links are at the end because I don't know.
We are at ...lightly used...?...
Yeah, I'll tell you at the end.
OK, for our very, very first game that we're playing, it's one that you found.
Yeah, picked up in the Greyhound charity shop in Swansea on the Kingsway.
It was on display in the window for ages and I'd had my eye on it for weeks and weeks and weeks.
I was like, oh my God, I hope they sell it. I hope they sell it.
I really want them to put it on the shelf.
And then I walked past one weekend and it wasn't in the window anymore.
And I was like, oh no, I've missed my chance. I've missed it.
But no, I walked in and there it was in all its glory on the top shelf, just waiting for me to go and collect it
and pay what I thought was a slightly extortionate price of £10 for a board game that's probably 30 years old.
However, I did check on eBay last week and I've had a bit of a bargain
because the cheapest one on there that was up for sale was £24.99
and there was another one on there for £30 odd.
It does have the year there.
Oh my God, there we are. Search Glen Limited, 1987.
What does that make it? 34? No.
What's seven or 14? Seven. Oh my God. So it's 37 years old.
It's doing all right. We've got all the pieces. Well, almost all the pieces actually.
What was it?
The cage evidence.
That's right. No cage evidence cars.
All of them are gone, weirdly.
We looked underneath all the vacuum formed plasticky bits. Not there inside the box either.
No, lots of really lovely, decrepit, bonus elastic bands though.
The rules are absolutely insane.
We're even playing the simple version. Oh my God.
We did notice they were children's rules. However, excuse me, excuse me.
There is a Nessie Hunt special introductory rules for inexperienced or casual game players.
And whilst I cannot say I am inexperienced, I can definitely say I am somewhat casual sometimes.
So we're hoping that this A4, literal A4 page, the main rules are like double sided A3.
It's ridiculous. It's a whole, I mean, it's nearly a novel.
But yeah, so the introductory rules are just one side of A4
and they make about as much sense as they do to any menu written in any language that you don't understand.
If you fancy trying to decipher them, we will put the photos on the Channel 84 blog for this episode.
That's true. I have taken a lot of pictures of all of the different elements.
So you can knock yourselves out looking at all this beautiful artwork created by strange people in Scotland
for the pleasure of nine and over age people.
And the rest of our show notes.
Because there's a big thing of having sort of tabletop gaming being serialized,
we thought we'd like in on that.
So we're serializing this by playing just 10 minutes at a time.
Yeah, because we have no original ideas and we like to steal things from other people.
It was a lot easier than coming up with it.
It's hard enough to come up with stuff for this show when most of this is robbed.
That's true, actually.
Go on.
OK, so the basics of the game are...
I'm going to be asking lots of questions as we go along.
Please don't ask me because I've read these rules.
I know I've read them several times and they still don't make an awful lot of sense.
But the premise is there are four expedition teams represented by different colors.
Yellow, red, green and blue.
Japanese being yellow, I'm not going to comment on the appropriateness of that at all.
Or inappropriateness of that at all.
British are red, independent are green and American are blue.
So Adam has initially opted for red, but because of the way we're sat,
well stood on either side of the table, he's now blue and I'm red
because red is closer to me and I'm lazy.
Do you want to break down all the rules?
Shall I read them for your pleasure?
Yeah, I do need some help again.
Yeah, OK, right.
I don't know how we even start. I've forgotten that much.
Erm...
The objective of the four players take the role of competing expeditions in a race
to prove the existence of the Loch Ness Monster.
The game is played in short rounds during which, from their limited income,
expeditions, as in me and Adam, purchase and pay for running costs
for the research equipment represented by transparencies.
Now, these transparencies are flimsy bits of...
Overhead projector film.
Yeah. Can you hear? ASMR.
I think I'll just hear seagulls outside.
That's true. We probably should close the window.
So yeah, they're made of transparent plastic
and they've got things written on them like underwater camera.
Sonar. Biological. Surface camera. Eye witness.
Only because we're playing the basic game, you don't use the eye witness ones,
which is helpful because that means we get to skip a whole load of stuff.
These are deployed to best advantage upon the hexagons
marking up Loch Ness on the playing board.
For this introductory game, eye witness transparencies are not used.
See, I told you we didn't need those ones.
Expeditions then move their coloured tokens by throw of dice
around the loops on the corners of the board.
Here they collect eye witness evidence, which we won't be requiring,
and experience the ups and downs of expedition life.
So in the top left, bottom right-hand corner of the board,
you can't really tell what way the board is supposed to go up.
Anyway, there's these little P shapes
that have two different coloured tracks around them.
One is blue and green on one side, and the other is red and yellow on the other side.
And you put your country token little dude,
who I think they're holding binoculars.
I personally thought they looked like Sasquatches to start off with,
which I thought was funny.
Little munch screams.
So you place those on the little P's on the corner of the board,
and that is where we will travel around,
and depending on the squares we land on,
we will pick up evidence cards that will give us clues as to where Nessie may or may not be.
The tokens are then lifted to reveal the letter and numbers
indicating the positions of surfaced and submerged monsters.
Any equipment even slightly covering the monster hexes,
which is in block capitals by the way,
and with inverted commas either side.
They aren't really spells, they're put in the monsters.
Monster hexes entitles the owner to take and retain appropriate evidence cards
which bear a points value.
The first expedition to reach 750 points or any other agreed score wins.
And then it gives you a bit of a blah blah blah about setting up the board
and placing all the different evidence cards in different places.
Which we've done.
Which we've done, and we've doshed out the money.
The money's on my side of the board,
so I guess I'm going to be banker, although we haven't pre-agreed that.
You also get these fun little like three-dimensional plastic Nessie tokens.
There's like four that look like a little Diplodocus going for a swim,
and then there's one that is just...
A head and neck.
Yeah.
Oh, what's the word I'm looking for?
Phallic.
So yeah, so we're set up, we're on the correct side of the board.
And...
Do we have to spend money to buy some equipment and stuff for us?
Oh yeah, sorry, that's a good point. Hang on.
Expeditions may only buy one piece of equipment per round.
All three surface cameras must be in use before buying any underwater equipment.
But thereafter, equipment may be discarded and repurchased in any order.
To move equipment, it is necessary to remove the transparency in one round
before repurchasing in the next.
All equipment is stored based, i.e. placed around points of the shore.
And then there's a bit about the biological and cage, but we haven't got the cage, so...
We also have tally sheets, which we fill in our own individual column.
Oh, so we only really need one, because it's got all four countries on one tally sheet.
So we have tally sheets to complete, and then there is a summary card as well
that gives you ideas of how to progress through no less than nine short rounds of this game.
So yeah, wish us luck!
Alright, so before we start, Stage 1.
Each player throws dice, even if currently missing a turn.
Number 2. Advance Expedition Leader Token anti-clockwise, even if missing a turn.
Number 3. Take Logistics Card, even if you land on an asterisk square, but not if missing a turn.
Read the card aloud and act... What the...
We haven't even thrown a dice yet! I don't even know how to even start!
I think we should just roll a dice and see how it goes.
Right, so...
I mean, we could skip the tally sheets and everything altogether, and just see where we end up.
We don't have to be professional gamers on Day 1, do we?
I don't know if that's going to help us keep track to find out who gets to do 750 first.
Oh, good point. Alright, let's fill in the card.
Oh no.
Do you want to rock, paper, scissors for the roll of the first dice?
Ladies first.
Oh, you're such a gentleman!
Okay, right, because I have a vagina and not a penis, I get to roll the dice first.
Oh, it's your game.
That's true, it is.
Ooh, six!
What way round do I go?
I think there's arrows, so...
Ah, right, okay.
One, two, three, four, five, six.
Right, I am on 6F.
Now what do I do?
No idea.
Oh bollocks.
Where's the rules again?
Take the logistics card.
Oh.
I am taking a green...
Oh, hang on, if you land on an asterisk square...
No, no asterisks, it's just a plain old 6 and an F.
Okay.
Each player throws a dice.
Advance expedition leader token anti-clockwise.
Take logistics card if you lead on an asterisk square, but not if missing a turn.
Alright, I didn't land on an asterisk card, so that's the end of my turn.
Okay.
One. Me neither.
This is going great so far.
Oh, I didn't set the timer. Ten minutes.
Oh bollocks!
Right, okay, officially ten minutes.
Right, three.
One, two, three, four D.
No asterisks.
Something's going to happen soon.
Four.
One, two, three, oh, four!
Whee!
Read the card aloud and act upon it.
So, logistics.
Sonar loan. Jim Hogan of Kelly Cruises in Venice is prepared to lend you New Atlantis, his sonar search vessel.
What's this 1987 product placement?
Well, it says 1986 on the board, patent applied for.
Oh.
I'm guessing they wrote the rules after they worked out what to do with the board.
Ah, yeah, good point.
This card gives you the option to take two pieces of equipment at the buying stage of this round, if you can manage the running costs.
Present this card as payment in full for a sonar unit during the buying stage.
You may, if you wish, also buy another piece of equipment.
If you're already using both sonars, you must pass this card to the player on your left.
Sponsor.
Yes.
Remember to add both sets of running costs on the tally sheet.
Yeah.
So.
You keep dropping your bits on the floor.
Oh, pardon me. My sonar fell on the floor.
Yeah, so did your other one. Double sonar.
Right, so I'm Team America.
Yeah.
So I have got two sonar units for free.
Oh.
And I will buy another piece of equipment.
What would you like?
I will buy an underwater camera.
All the surface cameras have to be in use before you can use an underwater camera.
I will buy a surface camera.
Well, I see one part of the rules stuck in my brain.
Thank you very much.
So underwater.
No, surface camera is tenner.
Is ten pounds.
And it costs you twenty pounds per turn running cost.
So that'll be thirty pounds for the bank, please.
Oh, sorry.
Twenty pounds per turn running costs.
And how much is the sonar?
Sixty pounds.
Yeah, but you have those for free.
I have to pay the running costs.
But you have to pay the running costs, which are forty per turn.
Oh, no, hang on. Mine are different then.
Sorry, I've got different prices.
What?
So running costs. I've got the surface camera.
I'd like to officially say this makes no fucking sense.
I guess we got maybe backed by different teams.
Team USA. So I'm guessing the Americans are buying my equipment.
Well, how do you know who's buying?
We're representing different countries, aren't we?
I know, but the card, the summary cards don't tell you that they're for a different country.
I assumed all four of them are the same.
Oh, I thought you just checked. That's why we chose who we would claim them.
Oh, right. No.
Sorry.
You'll have to do your own numbers.
I've got a round for the surface camera, two sonars.
It's costing me sixty quid.
You haven't got that much money.
One hundred and twenty.
I can only...
Do you have to pay the running costs for the purchase round?
Should we say you don't need to pay the running costs for the purchase round?
And that way you're not bankrupt before you've started?
Six minutes left.
I will not buy the camera, as I guess I can't afford to.
OK, cheapskate. Two free pieces of equipment.
Do you get to choose where to put them at?
One twenty.
So how much money? One hundred and fifty, wasn't it, my money?
No, you've got fifty, not one hundred and fifty.
Oh.
Is it supposed to be one hundred and fifty?
Oh, in that case I can't afford to even run them.
Oh my God.
This game is complicated. It's like Monopoly and doing the actual proper rules of Monopoly.
Issue each player with fifty pounds.
Four times ten, two times five.
And a summary card.
Do not follow the summary rules on the summary card.
These are basic game. Blah, blah, blah.
Take income of one hundred and fifty.
Oh, so you're owed one hundred and fifty because this is your second round.
We're both owed one hundred and fifty.
Come on, Lord. This is why I don't work in a bank.
There's got to be an easier way to play this game.
This is even the beginner level.
The beginner rules were so dense we've had to read them three times now.
Yeah, and the rest.
OK, so you've now got two hundred pounds because you've got your initial fifty and one hundred and fifty for that round.
And I've also given myself one hundred and fifty for my second round.
Right, so just to get this going and just to get to end this bloody game, there's one hundred and twenty.
Take that back. Oh, do I get to put two sonars in?
Yes, you do.
Anyway, you fancy I guess where the point is.
I think the point has to be on the land, maybe.
Oh, he's let me search vessel.
Oh, so you can put them wherever you want them.
So I guess the point is where you are and the wider it is, is that's your scope for.
So I'm going to go.
It's gone north and south or east and west, depending on which way you look at the board.
Right, my go. Yes.
Yeah. Excellent.
Four, one, two, three, four.
What is that? No, nothing for me again.
OK, I'm going to be at a money now.
Six, one, two, three, four, five, six.
So before I've got the star card, before we do anything, we'll take some money.
Give you some more dollar.
Do I need to organize myself better?
This is your round. There's my round.
I've got to owe you that running costs for my son.
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Right. The only one that makes any money in these games is the bank.
And so I've got a card on the star thing.
Highlands and Islands Development Board Research Grant.
Give you an outright cash grant equal to the purchase price of all the equipment you are not using at this time.
Oh, if you have all the equipment in use, then you receive no grant.
So you get a grant to cover all of this shit.
Yeah. So I've got a grant.
Oh, so I just get it for free then.
Well, I don't get running costs. It's going to if it's a grant for it, I guess it just.
No, they give you the grant for the equipment and they're not giving you the grant for the running costs.
Stop trying to get out of paying your bills.
But anyway, how much is the value of all of your equipment?
Because I need to give you that much in money.
We haven't got time for this.
So.
Oh, hang on.
Two underwater, three surface, one biological.
Camera.
Oh, surface camera.
That's.
Thirty.
Biological.
Fifty.
Two underwater cameras, 50 each.
Twenty.
Three.
Running costs.
So I need to give you three hundred.
And then twenty.
And then eighty.
See, I was way too slow on that.
Shocking. Who's to play darts as well?
There you go. There's your grant money.
You get and I get to put these things out as well.
No, no.
Unless you are.
That's technically the end of your round.
So you can.
I suppose you could buy them now because you've got the money to do that.
They are already.
No, no, no.
This space where all of your transparencies are is a bucket where all of the kit is kept.
And then you have to pay the sponsor to give you the kit.
So now you have the money to be able to purchase the kit.
You just don't have the kit.
I didn't need to purchase it.
No, it was a grant.
Yeah.
Giving you a grant equal to the purchase price of all the equipment that you're not using.
Sorry, so I have to give you this money back on the next round.
Yes.
Sorry, I get it.
So if you want to use the equipment, then you have to give me money.
Sorry, sorry. I get it.
Right. My turn?
Yeah, yeah.
OK.
Ten minutes.
Right. What do you do?
F**k all.
Stop.
Oh dear.
I can see myself getting into this.
I feel like it could get quite competitive.
I don't understand what we're doing at all.
Maybe then if there's a third player or something, it might be a bit more of a round feeling to it.
Maybe we should get Jackson over or something.
We can't at this point. We have to restart.
No, I'm not doing that.
No.
I'm going to apologize in advance. My blocked nose will get worse and worse as that game goes on.
I didn't notice at the time.
Oh, I was very aware of it. Just the sensation in the back of my head.
Right. This is my contribution for the Biblio 10 segment.
You don't know what this is.
No, I don't know what this is. He's genuinely taking it out of a packet right now.
I bought this. I don't know how likely used technically this is.
Our very first show, I could be breaking our rules of having something pre-loved, pre-owned.
But it's out of print as far as I know.
Right. Did you buy it as a new copy or is it a pre-owned copy? Did it come off like Amazon or Abe?
I've got no idea where I got this.
OK.
Oh, it's We Buy Books.
OK.
It's the Innovations catalog book.
Oh, amazing.
I think it was three pounds.
Oh, I would say that that is a pre-loved book.
But there's no signs of wear and tear on it at all.
It's not as good as I thought.
I've had a quick flick through just to see if I had a history of any product.
We know we sold a load of shit. It's 20 years since the magazine shut down.
But these are some of the biggest sellers. This is a bit of a story behind it.
No, it's not. Not that.
The book itself looks pretty cool.
Opening up and you've got Innovations Report order form. It's got the old phone numbers and stuff in there.
Exactly. When you had the Innovations catalog and in the back, it's got all the order forms and examples of products.
A fax number. My goodness.
Do you know when it was printed?
Yeah. First published in Britain 2004.
Oh, right. OK.
It does have a disclaimer. The items in this book are not available for sale.
The order form is for illustrative purposes only and the address and telephone numbers are no longer valid.
Oh, boo.
But if anyone wants to have a look on Google to see if EuroAway Business Park Swindon SN58SN still exists,
the Innovations won't be there, but it doesn't say which unit they were either.
So anyone going there or if they still exist and work there, you could be working in the old Innovations warehouse.
And if you do work in the old Innovations warehouse, why don't you let us know?
So it's essentially the best of the Innovations catalog. We've broken it down to the sections.
Gadgets and technology, garden and DIY, household, well-being, leisure, cars and travel and pets.
Pretty much just like the old Innovations catalog.
Is this Innovations for pets or are they new, innovated pets?
We'll have to get to the segment now.
They could have robot pets in there. They could be the first outing of the IBO.
The very first item they've got, it's essentially a reproduction of the adverts,
but they've still having pages making them look like they're from the Innovations catalog.
One single advert right in the middle of the page.
And they haven't made it bigger so you can see it easier. It's pretty much the same size font.
Yeah, I mean I've not got my glasses on and I don't have terrible eyesight, but I can't read that.
It's smaller than the smallest print you have to read when you go and get an eye test.
It's called the Visionix Sound Effects Mixer.
So it adds professional sound effects to your videos.
And the professional effects they've given, as examples, smash, splat, whoosh, you know.
All the professional noises.
Yeah, like proper Batman style, like in little explosion bubbles and things like that.
They're actually calling it the Boing Box.
Boing, Boing Box.
Bring extra humour and interest to your home video productions with this superb Boing Box Sound Effects Mixer.
Boing Box contains 59 digitalised sound effects, plus electronic tunes and arcade sounds
so you can call up at the touch of a button, add a barking dog, creaking door, applause, laughter,
breaking glass, etc.
Or play around with the special effects facility to modify the built-in sounds,
giving you literally thousands of different sound effects to choose from.
It's a three channel audio mixer. You can add narration or music from tape, CD, record or another VCR.
Help you pirate videos.
£249.95.
Bargain.
Oh, Virtual Vision TV.
Wow.
It's essentially, it looks like a ski mask head glasses thing.
Yeah, really big glasses, really big visor lens.
Rappel and visor sort of thing.
Very super 90s with earphones plugged into it and a very, very discreet something the size of a Discman,
but about eight times the thickness that you'd wear on your belt.
Yeah, but I bet that doesn't skip when you go for a jog.
Well, this guy's not going for a jog in his turtleneck and chiness.
Yeah, no, he's definitely not.
Astonishing Virtual Vision TV. It's technological innovation you're unlikely to have ever seen before.
It frees TV from the conventional box to place television within your personal vision.
It's on these glasses that you're wearing around.
£999.
Jesus Christ!
Right, was it pets? Oh, well, good.
Oh, hang on a minute. Glamour, suspenders, stockings. Is that a man?
It's opening on the interesting pages. It's opening on the underwear pages.
I used to go through the little boys catalogue to look at the underwear pages when I was a kid.
This has opened onto a Quintex lace body stocking. Only £999.
God, they cost more than that now.
That's definitely a lady. She's hiding her bosoms.
It could be man bosoms.
No, I've seen my own. It's not. They don't look different.
We were looking for the pets, wasn't it?
I want to see an innovated pet, please.
Car and travel.
No, that's not pets.
Pets, pets, pets.
Take your cat out for walkies. A cat leash harness. £999.
That's not very innovative.
It says, go on, give it a try. Your cat could absolutely love it.
Emphasis on the could.
Yeah, that needs to be underlined and italic.
A seatbelt for a dog. A clockwork cat feeder.
If you're going on a holiday and stuff like that.
No innovations in the world of actual breeding of pets.
No, they haven't come up with a new style of pet.
They could be saving it. What's this? Nick Biggs. He's in the pet section.
He worked for 10 years as a copywriter.
That's good for a pet.
Yeah. Who's a good boy?
Who's a good boy?
He was a good boy.
Good book.
Hopefully we get some grant money now for that.
We've included a book in our podcast.
Nice little hardcover A5.
Give us that money, Arthur.
100-ish page. Not an awful lot to read.
Just a bit of fun. Like it.
Thank you very, very much for listening.
Thanks for your patience.
Yeah. Most especially thank you for your patience.
We can't promise this won't be a car crash of a podcast,
but we can promise you that we will do our utmost best
to not only keep ourselves, but your lovely selves entertained as well.
Wish us luck.
You can find all our show notes on the channel 84 blog.
It can go to lightlyused.co.uk or find us on the socials.
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That's the plan.
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Thank you.
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