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Welcome to closer to Christ through general conference

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent general

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conference talks. This is Abby and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Today we'll be discussing the name

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by which you are called, and this is by Elder

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B. Corey Cuvilli of the Seventy. Welcome, everyone.

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We're so happy to have you. Hey, Abby. Hey, good

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to be here with you. So, President Russell M.

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Nelson taught that if the Lord were speaking

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to each of us directly, the first thing he would

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make sure that we understand is our true identity.

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We are children of God, children of the covenant.

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and disciples of Jesus Christ. Any other designation

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will ultimately let us down. Then he shares a

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humorous experience about his son's first cell

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phone. So after noticing his wife's contact name

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was respectfully saved his mother, he assumed

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that his would be something similar like father

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or dad or Pele in reference to their soccer background.

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He couldn't find it. So, unable to find himself

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in the contacts, he finally called his son's

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phone, only to see that his name was listed under

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Not Mother, turning his curiosity into a funny

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and humbling moment. Do you know what you are

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on your kid's phone? Muv. Muv? I love it. This

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brought up the conversation in our house and

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my then 13 -year -old, my name was Muv. Momster

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in her thing. I'm like that's like monster She's

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like it wasn't really what it was meant to sound

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like so she updated it I don't know my my little

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four -year -olds having a great time like he'll

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call me Abby and his dad does not care for him

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Calling me by my first name. So now he calls

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me Mabby cuz it's like mom at me. You can picture

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that he's So nothing super cute, but I love that

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mother not mother so cute brothers and sisters

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by which name are you called? You know how I

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love the different names of Jesus, and I love

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that this talk highlighted different names that

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Jesus calls His followers. Kind of flips it on

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us. Which one of these might fit you personally?

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Disciples, sons and daughters, children of the

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prophets, sheep, friends, light of the world

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saints. Each of these titles you could claim,

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and each of them underscores a certain personal

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relationship with our Savior. King Benjamin powerfully

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taught that one aims to rise above the rest.

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Or none. This is the name that rises above all

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the rest. When we take upon ourselves the name

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of Christ. So after Christ's resurrection, His

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chosen witnesses taught that those who believed

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in Him were baptized and received the Holy Ghost

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would receive a remission of their sins. Those

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who accepted these ordinances joined the church,

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became His disciples, and then they were called

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Christians. Similarly, the Book of Mormon teaches

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that believers in Christ are Christians, and

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covenant people are spiritually reborn as the

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children of Christ. I love those chapters where

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they explain how and why, right, about this part.

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His sons and daughters Brother Cuvillier invites

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each of us to ponder, what does it mean to be

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called by the name of Christ? And there's some

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simple answers. We make and keep covenants. We

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always remember Him. We keep His commandments.

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We're willing to stand as witness of God at all

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times and all things. This sounds very familiar,

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our baptismal covenant. Right. One of those firsts

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that we make with Him. We stand with prophets

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and apostles as they carry Christ's message across

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the world. We serve others. to relieve their

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suffering. We try to be a light. We bring hope

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in Christ to all people. And we consider these

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things our lifelong pursuit, not a checklist,

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a one time. Right, right. We've heard that over

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and over again, haven't we, Abby? It's like collecting,

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you know? Some things you were saying, I was

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like, you know, so much of social media, like

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these little debates on trying to say like, we're

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Christians, we're Christians too, we're Christians.

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And they're saying, you're not a Christian. And

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I'm thinking, I am so over that. conversation

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in that space. I'm just going to do that, not

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as a checklist. That's my goal in my life, to

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have His commandments that dictate what I do,

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always be thinking about Him, serve others. And

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I'll say, if you can't see, if you can't see

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that I follow Jesus Christ and that I try to

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follow His example, then you've got blinders

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on. And that's not my problem. That's your problem.

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Just take my word for it. Give me this label

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that I'm so desperate for you to have. I'm not

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desperate for you to recognize that I'm a Christian.

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I am. Yeah. I am a Christian. We talk about Christ.

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It's great. We do as Christ did. Yeah. Or try

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to. And know that if we don't get it perfect,

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that's just fine. Right. Because again, we have

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Him as our Savior. Right. It's great to both

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consider that we do those things over a lifetime,

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like you were saying, and also that we have a

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lifetime to become better at it, meaning that

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we aren't expected to get it perfect in a single

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moment, but over the span of a lifetime. It's

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meant to take time, it's meant to take effort

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and experience, and that's why we're here. So,

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really, all good things come line upon line,

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precept upon precept, and that's how we become

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a disciple. Right. It's easy to get caught up

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in these worldly titles. But worldly titles only

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yield temporary value and they are never enough

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to stand on their own. And they change. Oh, absolutely.

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President Nelson shares that it's hard to find

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happiness where none can be found. That same

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advice applies to the titles by which we choose

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to be called. we choose to be called by them

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by the actions we choose. Following prophetic

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counsel to make discipleship a priority is both

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timely and wise, especially in an age of so many

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competing voices and influences." The one that

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rises to the top, you know, the dominating voice

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is, I want it to be the name of Jesus Christ

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that's the dominating voice or the dominating

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title. Absolutely. There can be other titles

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that I ... dabble in, but this is the one that

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brings happiness and lasting joy. Yeah. Whenever

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I hear this, I think back to 2019 when I was

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going through cancer and it was the first time

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in my life, I was only Amy. And it kind of, it

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rocked my world. I wasn't being a mom. I wasn't

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being a wife. I wasn't being a ministering sister.

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I mean, I tried a little bit, but like I wasn't

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anything but Amy. And it was like for the first

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time in my life, number one, it was kind of scary.

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Because I, you know, someone would say, how are

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you doing? And you would talk about your kids.

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How are you doing? And you would talk, you know

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what I'm saying? But like, I was just me. That's

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all I was. So because of that, I definitely took

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the opportunity to make sure I understood who

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I was, what motivated me. And when I stripped

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away everything else, was I happy with the person

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who was there and what made Amy, Amy. And so

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I really do love that. I feel like There will

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most likely be a time in every person's life

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where everything gets stripped away. Maybe you're

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an artist your entire life and then something

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happens and you're not able to be an artist.

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Now, what now? The Lord can help us reinvent

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ourselves. And I wouldn't even say reinvent.

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I would say more fully, be more rounded. You

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know what I mean? Like there'll be a point where

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you won't be able to do the thing that you thought

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defined you. And the Lord is just helping to

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show you that there is more. Love that. I love

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that you follow it up with because I thought

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I don't really want cancer to gain that experience,

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but I do Empty nester, injury, whatever it is,

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there's small ways. Like if your whole life was

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poured into your kids and then they leave the

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house that you have to re -identify. Oh shoot,

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there's a stranger in the house with me. My roommate.

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So, King Benjamin counseled, I would that you

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should remember to retain the name of Christ

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written always in your heart, that you hear and

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know the voice by which you are called and shall

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be called, and also the name by which he shall

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call you. He shares the most touching example

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from his own life, and so this is in 1909 in

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Germany, and his great -grandfather, Martin Gassner,

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was struggling with drinking and wasting his

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wages, and it was putting his marriage at risk.

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His wife had had it. After a co -worker shared

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a Mormon pamphlet that he found, they traveled

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to investigate the church and unexpectedly found

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a small congregation meeting in a rented hall

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above a funeral home. He was touched by the spirit

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and Martin gained testimony. When he said he

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couldn't afford to travel so far each week, because

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at this point he's quite far from home, the humble

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branch president personally helped him find both

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a job and housing within hours. Martin moved,

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was baptized six months later with his family

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and transformed from a hopeless drunk into a

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devoted, faithful man. This is the part I love

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from the story. Though this branch president's

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name is lost, His quiet discipleship changed

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generations and his influence continues more

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than a century later. And Elder Kuvliye said

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that he calls him friend, like that's the name

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he would give him, and I loved that. And probably

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an opportunity will present itself on the other

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side. Absolutely, right? It's not the end, is

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it? There's a saying that you can count the seeds

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in, you can count the seeds in apple, but you

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can't count the apples that come from a seed.

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The seed planted by the branch president has

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produced countless fruit Little would he have

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known that 48 years later several generation

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of Martin's family on both sides of the veil

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would be sealed In the burn switch of the temple.

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Where's he from? Because the way he said that

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I was like, he's really saying it was pretty

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it was is it French I well, I don't know. I know

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that in Switzerland. They they speak all to all

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the different like They have Italian, French,

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I think German, and … It was pretty … I'm not

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going to say it like he said it, because that's

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not me, but I say Bern, and it sounds not as

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cute as him. Bern's Switzerland Temple. It's

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only one thing to hear about being a disciple

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of Christ, but this story is touching, and you

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can see the impact that just one disciple can

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have on so many generations. The quiet, unassuming

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actions and deeds observed in the lives of ordinary

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people just trying to be like Jesus, who go about

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doing good like the branch president did, had

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lasting, even eternal consequences. Absolutely.

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True discipleship is not picking who is worthy

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of our generosity. All of God's children are

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worthy of it, meaning that every single person

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we encounter is worthy. Those who take upon themselves

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the name of Christ recognize that, as Joseph

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Smith said, a man filled with the love of God

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is not content with blessing his family alone,

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but ranges through the whole world, anxious to

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bless the whole human race. Jesus lived this

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way. Entire books are filled with these stories,

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but the apostles share that they weren't even

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able to write a fraction of the things that he

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did because there was not enough time and there

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was not enough space to contain it all. And think

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of all the things that people do on behalf of

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His name, or by being His example, even more,

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just volumes that express that Jesus Christ is

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the center of our lives. Any given day, you're

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going to be pulled in a lot of directions, but

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how would your actions be different if you were

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knowing that you're a representative of Jesus

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Christ in every action that you take, in every

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encounter that you make, in the decisions of

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your life? For sure. Preparing for this talk,

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It's been a minute since we recorded, but Amy

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invited me to the temple and I had done a, was

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it, maybe a Tuesday. Anyway, kind of the course

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of the week, I was preparing for the talk. Obviously,

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whatever you're doing kind of ties into, you

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know, the talk you're preparing. It's just how

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life works. It's more on your mind. And we'd

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been in a mission prep class and I was thinking,

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like, how special it is that missionaries wear

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the name of Jesus Christ, you know, on their

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heart for their time period of their service.

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As I haven't served a mission. So I had this

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thought like I've never worn That that tag I've

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never been a representative Jesus Christ in that

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way. Yes I definitely know that members are missionaries

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and you don't have to have the tag to to be like

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him obviously, but The reason I bring this up

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is that very shortly after we went to The temple

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and we were doing initiatories that day and in

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the third room were reminded of the same thing

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We're reminded it's this is all over the place

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so I know I can say it outside of the temple

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but when when bishops refresh you on what the

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temple garment means to us and The reminder that

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stands for you know, the markings are sacred

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and special We're not going to talk about that

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But in general that is a covering and it says

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it right there that you take his name upon you

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It's a reminder of taking his name upon you obviously

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we started that covenant relationship at baptism

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we have, you know, an even stronger, deeper covenant

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as we get a partake in what's happening in the

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temples. But, I mean, I was said, you know, my

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proxy doing work reminded that absolutely, I'm

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wearing Him on my heart. A symbol of Jesus Christ.

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Yeah. So, remember, like, Like a hundred episodes

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ago, like Sister Annette Dennis is putting on,

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like I've thought about the garment and putting

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it on and the protection and the power that it

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brings me every day. But I'm going to add to

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that beautiful talk that she gave that you, you

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know, that you helped guide us through with this

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idea of letting that be a reminder to make my

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actions reflect him, not just let him protect

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me. Being like Him protects me. There's just

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a little another deep level to it. And so, I'm

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super grateful for that reminder and that, you

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know, that's the most important name that we

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can put upon ourselves. I'll close with his testimony.

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He says, my great grandfather, and millions of

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others who have declared like the disciple Andrew,

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we have found the messiahs. In the end, our identity

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isn't defined by the world, but our discipleship

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is defined by the ordinances we receive, the

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covenants we keep, and the love we show to God

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and neighbor by simply doing good. I testify

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that Jesus Christ lives and has redeemed us.

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He is the one who said, I have called thee by

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name thou art mine. We say these things in the

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name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Abby, thank

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you so much. That was great. We'll catch you

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next time. See you guys.
