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Welcome to closer to Christ through general conference

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent general

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conference talks. This is Abby and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Welcome. Today we are talking about

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the Book of Mormon, an immeasurable treasure

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on our journey, and this is by Elder Ozani Farias

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of the Seventy. So he tells a story reflecting

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on receiving a life -changing gift 40 years earlier

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while he was in high school. A classmate who

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seemed to have a special light shared that he

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was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of

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Latter -day Saints and gave him a copy of the

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Book of Mormon. He invited him to read it and

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meet with the missionaries, his friends. After

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learning about the doctrine of Christ, the speaker

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followed Moroni's invitation to pray and ask

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God if the Book of Mormon was true. And although

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he did not fully understand everything yet, he

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felt in his heart that the message was good and

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from God, and he received spiritual confirmation

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through the Holy Ghost. Just like any great life

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decision, he was pretty immediately met with

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opposition. this was the case for Elder Ferris.

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After he was baptized into the Church of Jesus

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Christ of Latter -day Saints, friends were trying

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to convince him that he had made the wrong decision.

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What's the benefit to push back like that? I

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asked myself. Or for us, where we were born to

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homes where the gospel was already present, we

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weren't seeking that. I mean, in the same way.

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But I was thinking like anti - content in our

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newsfeeds kind of act in the same way that the

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opposition in his case was. And sometimes, you

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know, it's just like a little, a little anti

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-content here or there, just somebody misspeaking

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about the church or speaking on behalf of us.

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I'm like, totally different religions. And I

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thought, what does that do to me? Does that wear

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me down? And I thought, you know, Sometimes I'm

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faced with those, those things that people want

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me to doubt. It's, you know, the opposition in

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my life. And when I look at it, when I look at

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it, face value, I say I actually renew, it renews

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my dedication or it strengthens my testimony

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because I briefly questioned it. I'm like, oh,

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does that thing bug me? It doesn't bug me. What

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do I actually know to be true? So totally, it

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causes you to reflect on your own, my own opinions

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about it. It doesn't take the next. content that

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somebody positively sharing something like, oh,

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well, they said that, so now I believe it's true.

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I reflect on my own, whether it's news that sustains

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a belief that I was already holding or one that

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makes me question things. And maybe they bring

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up gritty things that are hard and will take

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a minute to chew on. But what I'm saying is not

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really terrible to be confronted with that because

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all of those are opportunities to be questioned.

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So yeah, who wants their friends telling you

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you've made the worst decision of your life?

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Nobody. the testimony that he has 40 years later

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from that pulpit, the passion that he has, I

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was like, yeah, it was probably hard, but what

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a payoff. That's the testimony that he has cultivated

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from that experience. So I just was thinking

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about this for myself and I wrote these thoughts.

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I said, I receive renewed confirmation through

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studying scriptures and praying to stay true

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to the covenants. And that's the same thing that

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this elder had at the same time, it's like, yeah,

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I'm going to take your information, but you're

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not going to let it sit and like, make him stew

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about it. He's going to say, do I really believe

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those things to be true? And again, he comes

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out of it knowing he had confirmation from God

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about these things. Then he says this, since

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then, the Book of Mormon has been my companion

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and has become an immeasurable treasure in my

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mortal journey. Love that. The Book of Mormon

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is a treasure. The Book of Mormon is another

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testament of Jesus Christ. It was written by

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ancient prophets through revelation. Its most

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significant event is the visit to the ministry

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of Jesus Christ among the Nephites after his

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resurrection. I'm so excited because I am in

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Helaman 9 right now and I'm like, okay. He's

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almost here. I always look forward to that part.

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Love it. Love it. So good. And even if you're

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in the Book of Mormon and that's not where you

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are, skip to those chapters. Right. Celebrate.

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It is so great. So, the Book of Mormon teaches

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the doctrines of the gospel, explains the plan

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of salvation, and it shows how people can find

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peace in this life and eternal salvation in the

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next. He wrote some facts out about the Book

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of Mormon I thought they were worth. I'm reviewing.

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He said the first edition of the Book of Mormon,

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Another Testament of Jesus Christ was published

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in March 1830 in a small town in New York, United

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States. Joseph Smith was 23 when he completed

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the translation. I always am amazed when I hear

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that. 1829, he translated almost the entire book

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in less than 75 days, printing process taking

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about seven months. There are 80 ,000 full -time

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missionaries roughly today. I'm going to be interested

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to see what that number blossoms to in June,

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July. There's just that huge influx of 18 -year

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-olds that are trying to graduate. These missionaries

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serve in more than 150 countries. And what's

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awesome with this influx of missionaries, you're

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seeing new missions being announced all the time.

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And they serve as volunteers dedicating their

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time to testify that the Book of Mormon is true

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and that it bears witness of Jesus Christ. I

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love that this book is so powerful. It speaks

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for itself. and that truly 18 and 19 year olds

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can rely on the truths and teachings of one book

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and they can go throughout the world and change

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lives with it. I mean that's just a testament

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to its power and to its truth because who is

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a masterful teacher at 18 and 19? Not very many

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people. Having missionary children myself, I've

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witnessed a change in my own kids as they've

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dedicated the years teaching others from these

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pages. It was so sweet. My son was telling us

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the other day that they do a lot of Facebook

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missionary work in his mission. And somehow we

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got onto a forum that had like 30 ,000 people

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on it. and he said, you know, he just bore a

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quick testimony of Jesus Christ and said, if

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you want to know anymore, well, come to find

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out. I mean, it was, it was, maybe it was 300.

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It was seen by 30 ,000 people and commented by

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a lot. Most of it was him totally getting bashed.

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Okay. Which is fine. Yeah. Like I was just listening

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to what he was saying and he's like, mom, and

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he started reading all the comments to me, right?

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And there were a few of them. I was like, bless

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this person, bless this person. He goes, man,

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this guy right here, he's my homie. He happens

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to be a former member of our church. And he was

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like, you guys, lay off of him. Just so you know,

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these boys go out there on their own dime, but

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just like this says, they're volunteering. And

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he just wanted to share something about Jesus.

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And I was like, thank you. And there were other

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things too. And there were some nice things,

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but there were quite a few people that came to

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his. aid, I would say. And we're just kind of

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like, you guys, come on, just calm down. And

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anyways, I just was kind of quiet and listening

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to what my son had to say about it. And he was

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telling his siblings too. And his younger sibling

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was like, man, that's rough. And he goes, you

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know what? I think it's a win. And he goes, even

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bad publicity is good publicity, as far as the

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Lord goes. And I was like, wow, where'd he learn

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that? And then he said, I think it's a win because

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30 ,000 people saw that testimony. And I was

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like, way to go. That's a great way to think

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about it, to look at it, right? Yeah. And that

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they're so hyped up that they've got a comment

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on something somebody's testifying of means that

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it pricked something in them rather than just

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scrolling past and being indifferent to it. And

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also the thought came to my mind as you were

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speaking that... a former member of the church

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that is willing to stand up and be like an aid

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to his brother. I think that potentially opens

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them up to some other spiritual experiences just

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kind of in passing or they'll maybe recognize

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God in their life. Because he wasn't on there

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to be like, I have that same testimony, brother.

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What he was saying was like, allow him to testify

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of Jesus Christ. And so in that way, in him saying

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that. He stood up for Jesus in that moment. He's

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gonna receive some blessings from that. I agree

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with Adam. All that interaction is super positive.

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Absolutely. And when you put yourself out there,

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as we're being encouraged to share more freely

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and openly in social media, we put ourselves

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out here. Yeah, we're behind a microphone. There's

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some safety, but we get our fair share of bad

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comments directed to it. Does that make me want

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to stop? Not really. Not doing it for that, right?

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Yeah, absolutely. No publicity is bad publicity.

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Give us a one -star rating. I'm like, did you

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even listen? Oh, goodness. Just kidding. Hey,

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if you're listening and you like this podcast,

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go ahead and leave us a review. It will help

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more people see us so we can testify to more

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people. So now the talk goes on to lay out three

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principles to practice to deepen our conversion

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to Jesus Christ. So number one, be diligent and

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consistent in our daily study. Like Alma and

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the sons of Mosiah, we must search the scriptures

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diligently that we might know the word of God

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and be strengthened in the truth. That's in Alma

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17, too. While serving a mission as mission leaders

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in the Georgia Atlanta Mission, Elder Farias

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and his wife encouraged missionaries to study

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the Book of Mormon 30 minutes a day. This practice

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strengthened their faith and helped them expect

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miracles, which is one of the things President

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Nelson asked us to do. Even though people may

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not always have that much time after a mission,

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right? It's not that we always have a full 30

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minutes in our day. Sincerely prioritizing daily

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prayerful study of the Book of Mormon brings

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greater spiritual strength and confidence in

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the Lord and His promises. And then here's a

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challenge. for readers. This should air at the

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beginning of Holy Week, and for the next seven

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days, read the Book of Mormon every day and pray

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before and after you read, asking Jesus Christ

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to help you recognize one truth or one insight

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that meant something special to you or that might

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be significant. I love that. Step two that he

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outlined was make your study more meaningful

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by feasting upon the words of Christ. Nephi taught

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feast upon the words of Christ for behold the

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words of Christ will tell you all things what

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you should do. That's second Nephi 32 .3. Feast

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meaning more than just reading means savoring

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and pondering and applying. As you study the

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Book of Mormon, make your study more meaningful.

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Maybe you can use tools like the Gospel Library

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app to identify eternal truths about God's plan

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and covenants. I always like to make a little

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note. If I highlight something, maybe just test.

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justify, so I can read my own words back. I love

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nothing more than my own testimony of that same

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thing years later. Yes, when you see the date

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and I'm like, oh, yeah, that was 2019. This was

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happening or whatever. I was doing a move. I

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love that. Record impressions that you're having

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and what you're reading. The Book of Mormon can

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answer the questions of your souls. As Nephi

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taught, we should apply the scriptures to our

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own lives. When we feast on the words of Jesus

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Christ, we invite revelation and guide us to

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the choices and challenges we face. If you decide

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to take the challenge that Amy just presented

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during this holy week, start off the week with

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a question that you would like to ponder and

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allow time in your scriptures to find all or

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part of that answer as the week progresses. So

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good, Abby. Thank you. Three is bury your testimony.

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of the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. So

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just as Lehi desired to share the fruit of the

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tree of life with his family, it's interesting,

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Abby, this is the second time this week that

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I have heard in a talk, we also heard it in state

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conference, just reminding us how great that

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story is of the tree of life that once Lehi partook

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of it, his very first thing that he wanted to

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do. We share it with his family, share it with

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everyone. I love that. And that's what bearing

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testimony is. When we gain a testimony of the

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Book of Mormon, we develop a desire to share

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that joy that comes from knowing the gospel of

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Jesus Christ. At the conclusion of this week,

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whether it tracks with Holy Week when you're

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listening and ends with Easter or you catch this

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episode later on, we would invite and encourage

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you to take an opportunity to testify of the

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truthfulness of the Savior in His life, His ministry,

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and His resurrection and that the Book of Mormon

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has been the source of truth and that has helped

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build that testimony. On a final thought about

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Holy Week, last year we recorded this whole a

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whole session or episode about Holy Week. And

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we invite you to go back and listen to that and

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please share it with others. It's so good. We

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have Abby's husband who came and I could just

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sit and listen to him the whole time. I loved

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every minute of it. It's an episode. It's episode

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six, nine. And can you listen to in one pass

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or it is broken into a day or a week. a day at

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a time for the whole week. Yeah. And it really,

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it breaks down to some days. It's like a few

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minutes. I guess. Perfect. Um, well, we don't

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know a whole bunch about some of the days like

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Wednesday or something. Yeah. And, and kind of,

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he tried, he did a big youth activity and he

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tried to pair like that woman or that thought,

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you know, to center those days. And there's a

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million things out there. There's a million people

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that have Holy Week studies. But if you're the

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type that's busy about doing things and you just

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want something in your ear, it's a great way

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to just help you refocus and re -center. If you

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had missed your chance kind of incorporating

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more Jesus into your whole season, that you can

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add a little bit more of this Holy Week, basically.

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Sorry. I felt such a spirit when I listened to

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this talk and I, I mean, I just kind of had it

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on play and not just listening for the sake of

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listening. Like I was really prepared to study

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it, but I was like, it was funny because like

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little lines in the talk would just kind of take

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me back to some moments of my life and maybe

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some of the darker ones when or when I was really

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seeking questions to some different things. And

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it reminded me how answers have been provided

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to me so many times in that book. And so you

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get people that question the book, the integrity

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of the book, who wrote the book, was it translated,

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and a million different little attacks they want

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to place at that book. But if I ever find another

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book in my time on Earth that gives me more peace

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and guidance, teaches me more about my Savior,

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although my testimony about that book. But since

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it hasn't come up for me yet, this is the book

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I want to testify. It is another testament of

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Jesus Christ and He did have other children that

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were not in Jerusalem at the time. I know He

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had children, I mean, well, when I say that,

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there could be another continent of people that

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He also prepared for and established the covenant

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with them, you know, multi -continent things.

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I do believe that He has the same love for all

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of his children, and I'm just so grateful that

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that book was preserved in a mountainside for

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such a time as this, that it would come forth,

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that it would be brought forth by a young boy

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who had not a lot of education or skills. And

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what I find interesting, like, did we talk about

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chat in this program? Just before we talked about

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chat and I'm like, the more that technology catches

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up and it can do, you know, analysis of writings,

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It just goes to strengthen the authenticity of

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the Book of Mormon, being multiple writers and

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a translation, an abridgement of multiple writers.

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And I've always made this claim. I'm like, if

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you're going to call Joseph Smith a liar and

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a fraud, then he also needs a Pulitzer Prize.

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Whatever the greatest literary awards are there.

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because if he pulled this off, being a charlatan,

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then that's pretty incredible. But I know, in

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fact, that he was a prophet of God, and he was

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not challenged with something that was easy to

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do, but it was worth it. And so many of the early

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people of the church, they were tasked with some

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really difficult things, and some of them, they

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did succumb to the attacks, people trying to

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tear them down, but their testimony of this book

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being valid and legitimate did not. in the knowledge

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that I have of the histories that I have of the

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closest to first -hand accounts that I have,

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they didn't deny the book. And fair, not everybody

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likes the way things are run and, you know, church

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culture maybe gets in the way of things. But

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what a beautiful reminder here, the closing,

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almost closing words of the conference session

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to just reiterate that the truth is restored

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in this book and it will bring you the light

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and the joy and, and sure. answer innumerable

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questions that you can bring to it. So, I appreciate

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that we have the opportunity to do this and we

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have quite a few opportunities to testify, but

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I definitely want to add my testimony that I

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know that the Book of Mormon is the Word of God

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and it's taught me more about Jesus Christ than

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anything. So, now I just need to be better at

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applying what I learned. Sometimes I do, sometimes

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I need a little more. Don't we all, right? Yeah.

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The thing I love about the Book of Mormon is

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that it truly is living scripture. As many times

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as I've read it, as many times as like you said,

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whether it's cover to cover or whether it's I

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pick it up just for a verse or I go straight

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to third Nephi, whatever it is, it is always

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relevant to me in that moment. And I am always

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amazed. It's just I truly have come to know not

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only that God is in the details in my life and

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he sees me and knows me, and because that happens

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for me, I know that it's true for everybody,

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meaning he sees and knows every one of his children

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on this earth. And the other thing that I love

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is that It has taught me more about the nature

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of Jesus Christ than any other book. Sometimes

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I hear other scripture and it almost feels, his

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nature in that almost feels foreign to me. And

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sometimes he sounds like a very harsh God or

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whatever. And some people have said before like,

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how do you justify like the difference in it?

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And it's just interesting because for me, my

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spirit recognizes Jesus Christ in the Book of

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Mormon. I have come to know him there and I just

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feel like everything else I have questions about.

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will get worked out and filtered out because

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I know and I love and I trust the Jesus Christ

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I've learned to love. From those pages. Yes.

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From God to a prophet onto golden plates and

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translated. Through a different language. Less

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editing, not knocking the Bible, but if you're

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a pastor that's like fire and brimstone, The

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God that you want to perpetuate in the words

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of the Bible is going to be a really harsh, stern,

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severe God. I feel like it's so much easier to

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see the true nature of Him. I do too. I recognize

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Him. With another testament, the new covenant

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that He made. You were talking and I was like,

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man, it's almost like what you're saying is that

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the Book of Mormon is an immeasurable treasure

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on our journey. What a great name for a talk,

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right? I'm going to close. Thank you for your

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testimony. I'm going to close with his testimony.

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a testimony of the truth and divinity of the

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Book of Mormon by the power of the Holy Ghost.

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And this he testified in the name of Jesus Christ.

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Amen. Amen, Abby. Thanks so much. I think this

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is Easter Sunday. It is. Happy Easter. Happy

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Easter.
