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Welcome to closer to Christ through general conference

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent general

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conference talks. This is Abby and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Today we're talking about Prophets

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of God. This was done by Sister Andrea Munoz

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-Spineas, Second Counselor Young Woman General

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Presidency. We want to say welcome to our listeners.

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Thank you so much for being here with us today.

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Sister Spineas directs her message to the youth

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in this talk. As her role and capacity in the

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Young Woman's Presidency, that makes perfect

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sense. I always love hearing the youth or primary

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be spoken to specifically. I'm raising youth

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right now. My husband's heavily involved in,

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he's the young men's president in the stake and

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teaches seminary. And so when I hear messages

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that are specifically targeted to them, I appreciate

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it. So just like all talks, even though it was

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directed to the youth, I had a lot to learn from

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it. I'm sure you felt the same way. She starts

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by telling the story of an unnamed protagonist

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in the Old Testament and she titled her the woman

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of Shunem. Did she say Shunem? One day the prophet

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Elisha was passing through Shunem and we read

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that there was a great woman and she invited

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him to eat bread. And so it was that as oft as

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he passed by, he turned in to eat bread. That

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was the beginning of this great talk, Amy. Yes.

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This episode will air after the fact, but at

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this recording, in a couple of days, we will

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have the opportunity to hear our new prophet,

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President Oak, speak to the church collectively.

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And this will be for the first time as our prophet.

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Pretty exciting. I love the parallel of having

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our own prophet come into our homes. Will we

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invite him in? Do we listen in anticipation of

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what the Lord wants us to hear and do? I'm excited

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for this opportunity. I know we get to hear our

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prophet and apostles and auxiliary leaders. Speak

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to us every six months and I always look forward

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to that this feels special to me though I look

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forward to getting to know and to learn from

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President Oaks our prophet just like I have from

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all the the ones that have preceded him Meaning

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when when he spoke this at this conference they

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went with the problem with the prophets previous

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planet intentionally did not we didn't reorganize

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anything until after this was So there's a different

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mantle, you know? It's totally a different mantle.

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Thanks for pointing that out. It'll be so great

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to have the prophet's message come into each

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of our homes. And when we tune in, we'll be inviting

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him into our homes, just like this woman, if

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she knew him, you know, had a prophet walking

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by and invited him into her home. I find it interesting

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that the woman said this, now I perceive it seems

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she invited Elisha into her house without knowing

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he was a prophet, you know? it was just a good

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deed. Somebody walking by and she had something

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to offer and so she invited that in and then

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once he was in there, something changed within

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her. She recognized something different and she

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received a testimony through what I can only

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imagine was the Holy Ghost by listening carefully

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to what the words were being spoken by this man,

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Elisha. Remember, there's no pictures at this

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time. So it's hard to recognize prophets by just

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a space. It's not like, oh, look, that's a guy.

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Again, parallel to today, we have an opportunity

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to listen to President Oaks and we, for ourselves,

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can perceive to the Holy Ghost that he's our

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prophet today, a mouthpiece for the Lord, and

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we each get to gain our own testimony of this

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truth. how the Lord works in that way. That just

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because we have a testimony of prophets, it's

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our opportunity each time that we're getting

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a new prophet to have that reaffirmed to us.

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And I think it comes a bit easier now that for

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me, I'm not speaking for everybody. I grew up

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with President Hinckley. He was the prophet of

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my youth. And I think he was so well suited for

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these, I don't know what, you know, older generations

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thought about him, if they're like, you know,

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however they had their feelings. But as a child

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growing up, I loved him with all of my heart.

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And it wasn't super hard to take President Monsignor,

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but I kind of always thought of him as a little

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bit of a jokester. And so what I saw when the

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mantle of prophethood came to him is that fun

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is paired with seriousness. And that was fine.

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didn't really know anything about President Nelson.

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I didn't either. I mean, I'm sure he was doing

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such amazing things. Like looking at his biography,

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it's like, yeah, he was well suited for the job.

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He was raised up by, you know, on the shoulders

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of these men. He was just totally primed and

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prepared for it, but didn't really think much

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of him. And I definitely got a witness from,

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you know, when I joined Insulam Assembly to sustain

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him as a prophet, like, without a doubt. It was

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there. Absolutely. took nothing to know that

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the words, President Oakes is, like, what's interesting

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is what he's speaking, you know, as an assignment,

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as an apostle, that is a different thing than

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when he starts speaking when the mantle of prophethood

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is on him, that he does understand all of a sudden

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that it's like he is speaking for God as his

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mouthpiece. you listen a little bit differently.

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I do. It's pretty accurate. But I love how it

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didn't take like... it didn't take like, oh,

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can I accept him as my prophet? It was just as

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I asked the question and it was just as natural

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as my next breath. That's really good. And it

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is still great to ask just because to have a

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witness is really important. The Lord wants each

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of us to have our own divine witness. We don't

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just follow anything blindly. Then she says,

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the story does not end there. One day the woman

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said to her husband, let us make a little chamber

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and let us set for him there a bed and a table

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and a stool and a candlestick. I love it. Let's

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make him home. This is so you. You would have

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done this. And it shall be when he comes to us

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that he shall turn in. The faithful woman was

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willing to build a room in her house so that

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the prophet passing through the city would have

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a place to stay. Love it. Feels like not an analogy,

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not a parable. Like she made a place for the

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prophet in her home. At this point, we agree

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that she knows that it's a prophet of God, right?

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So rather than just, you know, come in and sup

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with me, have a little piece of bread and then

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you're on your way, like... be here with us always.

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So, powerful lessons for our day from this experience.

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The Lord testified to the woman of Shenum that

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Elisha was a prophet of God, and she acted by

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opening her home to receive Him, just like we

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too can receive that personal testimony of God's

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prophet today. Open our hearts, open our minds,

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open our homes to the message that Heavenly Father

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has for us in these latter days. I love that,

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Abby. And then she says, Dear Youth, and of course,

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Everyone who's listening to this, she says, I

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invite you to ask yourself this question. Do

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I have a personal testimony of God's living prophets?

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And then she says, I'll start at the beginning.

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What is a prophet? A prophet is a man whom God

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has called to speak for him. There are prophets

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on the earth today, just as there were in ancient

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times. And then she says prophets and seers are

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also revelators. Oh, sorry. Prophets and seers

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and revelators. Yeah, that means they can see

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what others cannot see and they can prophesy

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of future events They can also prepare us for

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calamities prophets receive commandments and

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revelations from God Prophets also proclaim the

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gospel of Jesus Christ their inspired teachers

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and their messengers to God to everyone on the

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earth It's important to know, you know, we accept

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him as our prophet, but you know, just because

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people don't know you know, prophets exist in

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our day. He is still a prophet for the world.

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Each member of the First Presidency and Quorum

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of the Twelve is also considered, in their own

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right, a prophet, a seer, a revelator. I like

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that reminder. Serving as a council under the

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Lord's direction, they have the authority to

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declare and interpret doctrine and establish

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policy for His church. And we know that they

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carefully pray and deliberate for decisions that

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the Quorums must be unanimous in their. decisions.

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And in this way, the Lord assures us that His

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will will be done. I love it knowing like, sometimes

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they come into it with very differing opinions.

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For sure. They speak their piece, and then they

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let the Spirit kind of distill on the decision.

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And then they get, you know, unanimity. Yeah.

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And I really like how President Nelson described

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that. I'm sure it's been described before at

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different times, when he said, I want to know

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what my counselors think. I want to know what

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all the 12 apostles think. I ask for their input.

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Think about all of their life experience and

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the different aspects that they come to that

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council with. And it's supposed to be that way,

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right? Everyone having different... coming with

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a different lens. I appreciate the way that Sister

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Spinaeus teaches the youth here, that each of

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the Twelve's apostles, like we said, is a prophet,

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seer, and revelator. That's such a beautiful

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truth and just a great point to remember. So

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prophets testify of Christ, his existence, his

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ministry, and his divinity. From the Book of

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Mormon, these are some things that the prophets

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have said. Lamanite also testified that Jesus

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Christ is the Son of God, the Father of heaven

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and of earth, the creator of all things from

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the beginning. And then the prophet Moroni said,

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I have seen Jesus, and he hath talked with me

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face to face. When Christ visited the Nephites,

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one of the first things he did was call twelve

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apostles. And he said to the people, Blessed

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are ye if ye shall give heed unto the words of

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the twelve whom I have chosen. All of them. I

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was just thinking how powerful it is knowing

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that they sometimes come into these councils

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making decisions about things with differing

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opinions, but they all have been given this gift

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to be prophets, seers, and revelators. They do

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see things differently, see things forward, and

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that they then have to take the way that the

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Lord has shown them, this thing, this matter

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that they have to act on, and their life experience.

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Bring that to the table and then see how everybody's

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vision of what is to come Plays out in the decision

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that they're gonna make moving forward, right?

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I think that's pretty incredible. That is very

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cool And I just was thinking back we're in the

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Old Testament obviously with come follow me and

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a couple weeks back Something from our readings

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stood out. There's a few words for parents or

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other family members who are raising children.

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The Lord Himself taught Adam and Eve the truths

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of the plan of salvation. And then He said to

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them, I give unto you a commandment to teach

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these things freely unto your children. So, you

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know, Amy and I, even with our little eight year

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olds, you know, what does it mean that we feel

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like we can speak freely unto our children? Well,

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that can be words of the prophets, testimonies

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of Christ in His divinity, scripture stories

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that illustrate eternal principles. We can use

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conference talks that teach and inspire and point

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us to Jesus. And especially when we're thinking

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of ourselves and the things that we can do, the

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Spirit will prick us in one way. And when we

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have the prayer of one of our children or all

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of our children on our heart, when we're immersed

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in Come Follow Me, or listening to the words

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of the prophets through these conference talks,

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or looking at a scripture story with you know,

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the prayer of one of our children or all of our

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children on our hearts, the message that's going

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to come through will be unique, different each

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time. I like that, Abby. That's totally true.

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So just like we talked about, teach these things

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freely. What does it mean to teach freely? I

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like what she gave to us. She said it's learning

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the truths of the gospel for ourselves. having

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a personal testimony of them, and then when it's

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part of our heart and our mind, then we share

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that knowledge with our children. And, you know,

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our children meaning, you know, the ones in our

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family, and for those who are teaching in church,

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you know, this extends to primary and youth and

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also to the adults. We're all children of God.

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But essentially she's saying it means... To teach

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freely means first get it into your heart, have

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it be part of you, then you share it. It is also

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promoting both formal and informal teaching moments,

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and it is living according to that knowledge

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and that testimony. Yeah. And it stood out to

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me when we were discussing that a couple of weeks

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ago, whenever that was, a couple of weeks back.

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And come follow me. how important it is to involve

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the Spirit in our teaching. So when you're studying

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for yourself, you say, enlighten me, open me

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up to the thing that I'm ready to learn. You

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have that thing learned. Then it does seem like

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opportunities come. Our kid will ask a question

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and the Spirit will bring to remembrance this

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thing that you've put in you. If you haven't

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put any knowledge in you, you don't have the

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knowledge to put back out. But when I read that,

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I was like, yeah, when there's a truth that needs

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to be taught and you hesitate for a moment, you're

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like, oh, I don't want to share that thing. it's

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going to hurt their feelings or whatever. I don't

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want to say whatever. I want to articulate what

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I'm trying to say. Sometimes when the spirit

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says, you need to share this thing and then we

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sit and we try to reason out of why we're not

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going to share it. That is us not sharing freely.

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I don't need to say exactly. I don't need to

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point out exactly what that thing is that we

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want to share. But if you've gone into the situation

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and you've said, I want an opportunity to share.

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I want an opportunity to testify. and the spirit

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pricks you to share something. Every thought

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that you have passed that impression to share

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is you binding your own tongue to something that

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he's already said. You've already involved me

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in asking what you should share and when, so

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now I told you to share it. I'm not gonna give

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that to you as much if you don't follow through

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and do the thing that I asked you to do. I love

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that perspective, Abby. That's so great. Sister

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Spinaeus, she extended an invitation to all of

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us. I love to point those out. She said, dear

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young friends, I have an invitation for you in

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the coming days. Kneel, open your hearts and

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pray with faith to Heavenly Father and ask Him

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to confirm to you that His chosen prophet and

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apostles are His voice on the earth today. Now,

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remember this. President Nelson organized conference.

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He assigned Sister Spinaeus to prepare a talk.

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She prepared this talk and didn't modify it based

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on the circumstance of the Prophet dying. But

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these words, you know, fast forward, knowing

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that we would lose President Nelson to the other

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side of the veil and that then President Oaks

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would be coming by succession or by... common

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consent, and my vote, I mean, I sustain him as

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the prophet. You know, I think it's really cool

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that she prepared this in advance of knowing.

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She prepared for months and months. And yeah,

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certainly he's older and he could have gone any

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time, but he's so healthy that it's not like,

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oh, you know, this is going to be his last conference.

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Nobody was really going into that thinking that.

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So anyway, knowing that we did receive our new

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prophet of God. This is our opportunity, the

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perfect time to exercise this invitation. So

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if you haven't already, listen to, this will

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air late enough that I can say this, the prophets

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speaking February 10th, 2026. Listen to the words

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that the prophet speaks and whatever he invites

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us to do, put it into practice for yourself,

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for your own personal testimony, for your own

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witness that he is indeed called of God and have

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a witness born to yourself. through the Spirit,

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that becomes part of your testimony, this continued

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succession that prophets are on this earth, that

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we have been blessed with and given a prophet

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of our day. Take the opportunity to know for

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yourself that Delaney Chokes is the prophet of

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God on earth today. It's a great invitation.

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Do you have anything else you want to add? I

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know that it sets us apart. I know that people

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really get uptight about us claiming that we

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have a prophet of God. I mean, especially in

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a come -follow -me -year like this, that we're

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studying the Old Testament, and you see the power

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of prophets. And like you said, their pictures

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aren't all over the internet. They're walking

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around. I know there were multiple prophets at

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the time. I know, you know, when Lehi was a prophet,

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there were prophets, they were, you know, Germanized.

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Because there wasn't a way to broadcast. Yeah,

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you can't share, like, electronically. So you,

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like, he has to put people, he has to send that

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message, and then they have to kind of help their

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geographical region. So I know it is not, Why

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would He love us any less in our day than He

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did His children of old and times? The fact that

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we had prophets in the Old Testament time screamed

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to my soul that He loves us enough in these days

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to have a prophet of God. And I have had the

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witness bear testimony to me time and time again

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that prophets are real, prophets have been called

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in our day and our time. the spectrum of their

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lives, you know, as they come in, as we call

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them, as we sustain them, I look back and I just

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say how perfectly placed these people are. Absolutely.

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Absolutely. And that is a demonstration of his

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love for me. I know that this is a worldwide

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thing, but I have taken the opportunity to just

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have absolute gratitude for. the prophets of

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my day and for my time. I appreciate them for

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my children. I appreciate them for the messages

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that they're doing and helping me as I'm navigating

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life and raising families. And I trust God that

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He picks the perfect prophet. And I love that

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He gives me the invitation to let me know that

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for myself, not just accept it as it is. This

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is the guy I pick, deal with it. I've had that

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confirmation for myself. But like you said, I

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actually haven't got to hear him speak, technically,

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as the mantle of the prophet. He had a birthday

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shortly after he was sustained, and I was just

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like, it's so fun to, like, listen to his personality

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come out and kind of hear him talking or whatever,

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but this is going to be different. The message

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on February 10th, so it'll have already aired.

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Hopefully you're all picking that up, but it's

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going to be different. I will use this invitation

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that she gave and apply that to the February

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10th. So cool, isn't it? I was so happy when

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I saw this and I was like, oh my gosh, this lines

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up perfectly. There are so many times in the

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gospel when, like you were saying, you're studying

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Come Follow Me, you're studying the conference

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addresses and just the things that are happening

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in life. There are all of these little fingerprints

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of God's touch in our lives and I love that.

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I want to share one of these last quotes that

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she gave. It's so great. The woman of Shunem

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taught us that we can have that testimony through

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the Holy Ghost. And I promise you that once we

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know that a prophet is God's anointed ones, our

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lives will be easier in spite of our ongoing

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challenges, because there are challenges. There

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always will be. As we will obey. Their voice

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is with trust, with faith and hope. To listen

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to and obey the voice of the prophet is crucial

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to holding on to every good thing until the second

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coming of our Savior. And I'll close with some

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of my favorite words. It's a battle cry for the

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youth and for us, and I love it. Sister Spineo

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says, youth, shall we not go on in so great a

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cause? Go forward and not backward. Courage,

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youth, and on onto the victory. Let your hearts

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rejoice and be exceedingly glad. We'll end with

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that. Have a great week.
