WEBVTT 00:00:02.320 --> 00:00:04.660 Welcome to closer to Christ through general conference 00:00:04.660 --> 00:00:06.719 where two friends who love Jesus share our own 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:08.539 approach to studying the most recent general 00:00:08.539 --> 00:00:11.519 conference talks. This is Abby and Amy. Let's 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:32.340 jump into it. Today we get to discuss Remembering 00:00:32.340 --> 00:00:34.500 the Sheep by Elder William K. Jackson of the 00:00:34.500 --> 00:00:39.200 Seventy. Welcome! We're so happy you're here 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:42.579 with us today. This is a great talk to focus 00:00:42.579 --> 00:00:45.479 on. Elder Jackson spoke on the power of enacting 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:48.119 two principles, the principle of counting and 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:50.439 accounting as we minister to those in our circle 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:53.159 of influence. He reminds us Christ is the good 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:55.439 shepherd. Each one of the flock is precious to 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:57.859 him. He patterned shepherding and taught us by 00:00:57.859 --> 00:00:59.979 word and deed the qualities of a good shepherd, 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:02.200 including knowing your sheep by name, loving 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:04.780 them, finding those that are lost, feeding and 00:01:04.780 --> 00:01:07.459 ultimately leading them back home again. He expects 00:01:07.459 --> 00:01:10.840 us to do the same as his under shepherds. I love 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:13.620 that, Abby. Thank you. I feel more and more that 00:01:13.620 --> 00:01:15.540 as we take a second pass, you know, on these 00:01:15.540 --> 00:01:18.140 conference talks and as we share this with our 00:01:18.140 --> 00:01:20.359 listeners, it's really more about remembering 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:22.900 than it is about teaching, right? It's just remembering. 00:01:23.379 --> 00:01:26.420 We are reminded of the worth of every soul. We're 00:01:26.420 --> 00:01:29.180 reminded how much God loves every person on this 00:01:29.180 --> 00:01:31.819 earth. This means me. This means every person 00:01:31.819 --> 00:01:34.780 hearing these words today. And it means every 00:01:34.780 --> 00:01:38.060 person that crosses our path. I think under shepherds, 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:39.840 it's such a powerful word because it reminds 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:43.560 us that we are not the shepherd and that we are 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:46.700 led by the good shepherd. And he really is the 00:01:46.700 --> 00:01:49.480 best example, Jesus Christ. When you say that, 00:01:49.540 --> 00:01:52.239 are you saying that it's stuff that we all already 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:54.519 learned under his tutelage and it's just a matter 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.560 of remembering that we already knew that it resonates 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.439 with the soul? Almost just like just reminding 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:02.780 us, hey, like we're not in charge. We're the 00:02:02.780 --> 00:02:05.480 under shepherds here. Sometimes. Um, I'm a duty 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:08.099 person and like when I get my orders, I move. 00:02:08.099 --> 00:02:10.400 I like just, and I want to follow through, right? 00:02:10.860 --> 00:02:13.960 But when I remember, hey, Amy, you're an under 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:16.360 shepherd. So don't get stressed out when things 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:19.080 quote, don't work out. Don't think that you've 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:21.500 let everyone down and all is lost. You're an 00:02:21.500 --> 00:02:24.000 under shepherd, which means the most powerful 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:27.099 being, the creator of all, he's really your boss. 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:28.919 It just, I don't know, for me, it just helps 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:31.460 me put things into perspective. Remember where 00:02:31.460 --> 00:02:33.340 I am and I don't need to have the weight of everything 00:02:33.340 --> 00:02:35.719 on my shoulder. If I'm feeling overwhelmed, take 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:38.560 a step back, pray and ask what's next. What part 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:40.360 can I do? Because this can feel like a lot, right? 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:43.000 Yeah. Oh, it can feel like a lot. I do know that 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:48.000 he has the power to take... things that are over 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:50.340 burdensome and lighten our load, because we have 00:02:50.340 --> 00:02:51.919 been promised, like, you know, you can yoke yourself 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.180 with him. I felt the power in yoking myself with 00:02:54.180 --> 00:02:56.240 him. I have tried to carry weight by myself. 00:02:56.340 --> 00:03:00.180 It's hard. It's exhausting. And it's never quite 00:03:00.180 --> 00:03:01.599 as good as like, I thought like, oh, I could 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:03.379 do this on my own. Why do I want to do it on 00:03:03.379 --> 00:03:05.580 my own after I have the experience? This is like 00:03:05.580 --> 00:03:08.280 any project that I'm strapped myself into. If 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:10.020 I can't get my husband on board to do it with 00:03:10.020 --> 00:03:13.169 me, I'm not that interested. If I've got Him 00:03:13.169 --> 00:03:15.650 doing most of the, you know, I get to have the 00:03:15.650 --> 00:03:17.650 ideas and He does the execution, those are the 00:03:17.650 --> 00:03:20.469 kind of projects I like to do. So, I can definitely 00:03:20.469 --> 00:03:23.969 appreciate this. God's in charge. He sets the 00:03:23.969 --> 00:03:26.490 example, and He tells me, you know, I have my 00:03:26.490 --> 00:03:28.710 little part in it, but the whole project's not 00:03:28.710 --> 00:03:32.469 mine to do. So good. We have the Scriptures for 00:03:32.469 --> 00:03:35.740 many examples. We can learn much about ministering 00:03:35.740 --> 00:03:38.219 in the Lord's way from the ancient prophet and 00:03:38.219 --> 00:03:41.199 exceptional shepherd, Moroni. He lived during 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:43.639 a very difficult time, not having the benefit 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:45.439 of cell phones, computers, and the internet. 00:03:46.330 --> 00:03:48.409 He managed somehow to keep track of his sheep. 00:03:48.830 --> 00:03:52.009 How do you think he did this?" Well, we get a 00:03:52.009 --> 00:03:55.069 glimpse into this, into his methodology in Moroni 00:03:55.069 --> 00:03:58.770 6. This is where we read that members were numbered 00:03:58.770 --> 00:04:01.129 among the people of the Church of Christ and 00:04:01.129 --> 00:04:03.689 their names were taken, that they might be remembered 00:04:03.689 --> 00:04:06.150 and nourished by the good word of God to keep 00:04:06.150 --> 00:04:08.770 them in the right way. The Church did meet together 00:04:08.770 --> 00:04:12.009 off to fast and to pray and to speak one another. 00:04:12.409 --> 00:04:15.930 counseling the welfare of their souls. That reminds 00:04:15.930 --> 00:04:19.550 me a lot of like a ward council or a good ward 00:04:19.550 --> 00:04:22.149 council. Right? Like modeling how they should 00:04:22.149 --> 00:04:25.829 work, right? If one's a well -oiled machine. 00:04:26.949 --> 00:04:28.769 What we're all striving for, a ward council. 00:04:29.529 --> 00:04:33.089 For Moroni, it was all about people. Like when 00:04:33.089 --> 00:04:35.910 they say their names were taken, that they might 00:04:35.910 --> 00:04:39.000 be remembered. Names are so important. He practiced 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:41.300 the principle of counting and accounting so that 00:04:41.300 --> 00:04:43.519 all would be remembered. Any who struggled or 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.660 wandered were noticed, allowing the saints to 00:04:45.660 --> 00:04:48.040 discuss the welfare and councils. Like the shepherd 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:50.500 who left the ninety and nine, safe and secure, 00:04:50.660 --> 00:04:53.120 I am certain, and went after the one that was 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.420 lost. We know of that from Luke 15, verse four 00:04:56.420 --> 00:04:59.199 to seven. We've been asked to be just as aware 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:01.639 of our flocks to notice and remember and go and 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:04.319 do likewise. Being aware and noticing reminds 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:07.680 me of that talk Elder Bednar gave. It was 2005, 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.939 and he talked about being quick to observe. He 00:05:10.939 --> 00:05:13.040 pointed out that observing is a spiritual gift 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.699 tied to discernment. We can pray and ask Heavenly 00:05:15.699 --> 00:05:17.860 Father to help us discern others' needs or be 00:05:17.860 --> 00:05:21.920 aware and remember them. And I think knowing 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:24.000 that that's a gift that we have the ability to 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:26.720 have, if you don't feel like you have it, You 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:29.220 pray for that one for sure. And a lot of that 00:05:29.220 --> 00:05:31.160 kind of came up. We were talking about no one 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:35.000 sits alone. Some of us are just like getting 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:37.379 by, especially on Sundays and we do our thing 00:05:37.379 --> 00:05:39.639 and then we get out of there. But when you have, 00:05:39.740 --> 00:05:43.319 when you ask for the capacity to see people that 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:45.100 you wouldn't have otherwise noticed because you're, 00:05:45.420 --> 00:05:48.699 you've got your own baggage to deal with. Um, 00:05:48.699 --> 00:05:50.319 he can bless you with that. And I think that's 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.420 the, I think that's the name to the gift. Yeah, 00:05:52.459 --> 00:05:58.250 I love that. quick observance. I don't know. 00:05:58.490 --> 00:05:59.689 I don't know how to say that, but it's a good 00:05:59.689 --> 00:06:03.050 one. Absolutely. Christ has organized His church 00:06:03.050 --> 00:06:05.250 in such a way that it should be difficult to 00:06:05.250 --> 00:06:07.709 forget a soul, for each is dear to Him. Every 00:06:07.709 --> 00:06:09.930 individual in a ward, regardless of age or gender, 00:06:09.970 --> 00:06:12.769 has a multitude of stewards, shepherds, who are 00:06:12.769 --> 00:06:14.709 tasked with looking after them with remembering. 00:06:15.129 --> 00:06:18.509 So, for example, a young man has assigned for 00:06:18.509 --> 00:06:21.689 his well -being a bishopric, ministering brothers, 00:06:22.629 --> 00:06:25.500 adult youth advisors, seminary teachers, quorum 00:06:25.500 --> 00:06:28.379 presidencies, and then some. So all serving, 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:31.120 each one of these serves as a safety net strung 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:33.660 up firmly beneath that youth to catch him if 00:06:33.660 --> 00:06:36.819 he falls. So even if just one net is properly 00:06:36.819 --> 00:06:40.620 positioned, that young man will be safe, noticed, 00:06:40.699 --> 00:06:43.639 and remembered. And yet often we don't even find 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:46.980 one net in place. People wander off routinely 00:06:46.980 --> 00:06:50.720 into the mists and no one notices. So there are 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:55.639 a couple of good He asked, how can I be a better 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:58.279 shepherd? And another question that I had is 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:02.439 what nets do I have stewardship over? And this 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:03.819 kind of goes back to what we were just talking 00:07:03.819 --> 00:07:05.360 about, Abby, at the very beginning when you were 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:07.079 like, hey, what does that mean? I think just 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:09.579 being aware that we have multiple nets, like 00:07:09.579 --> 00:07:11.560 we're a steward over multiple nets is important, 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:13.860 like as a mother, right? Lots of things going 00:07:13.860 --> 00:07:16.019 on, lots of nets. That can feel overwhelming. 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:18.399 I think putting into practice Sister Joy Jones' 00:07:18.420 --> 00:07:20.319 principle of wearing many hats, remember that 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:22.980 I think was back in 2020, but it's not needful 00:07:22.980 --> 00:07:25.459 to wear them all at once like we tend to think. 00:07:25.699 --> 00:07:27.759 We can be mindful and prayerful about which hat 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.540 we will wear or what net we will focus on for 00:07:30.540 --> 00:07:33.000 that day or for a few hours or just long enough 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.220 to send out a text letting someone know that 00:07:35.220 --> 00:07:37.740 we are thinking of them. So again. If there's 00:07:37.740 --> 00:07:39.959 that feeling of overwhelm, we know who we can 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:41.699 turn to. We can ask the Lord, who is the Prince 00:07:41.699 --> 00:07:44.000 of Peace, and He can help us to be peaceful about 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.439 this. I love the list you gave, seminar teachers, 00:07:47.819 --> 00:07:50.959 advisors, the ministering situation. Like you 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:54.300 said, a few of those maybe don't step in. It's 00:07:54.300 --> 00:07:56.180 fine. We still have that safety net, but how 00:07:56.180 --> 00:07:59.220 powerful it is. I've watched a lot of those examples 00:07:59.220 --> 00:08:03.180 kind of weave into my children's lives. And, 00:08:03.180 --> 00:08:05.779 you know, I mean, teenage years, you can have 00:08:05.779 --> 00:08:07.800 conversations with your kids, but, like, just 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.120 having those young women's leaders, particularly, 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:13.079 I've got older daughters, so, and a boy that 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:15.279 just entered into the Young Men's Program, but 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:17.980 knowing that I have that extra layer of help 00:08:17.980 --> 00:08:20.100 and support, they can say something to her that 00:08:20.100 --> 00:08:22.459 just resonates in a different way. Oh, for sure. 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:24.720 They can read them in different ways. I want 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:27.129 them to grow, you know, spiritually, but... you 00:08:27.129 --> 00:08:28.889 know, at a certain point, I don't want it to 00:08:28.889 --> 00:08:31.629 look like harping, but if they've got responsibilities 00:08:31.629 --> 00:08:33.250 because they're a class president and they're 00:08:33.250 --> 00:08:36.110 reaching out or preparing lessons or giving talks 00:08:36.110 --> 00:08:38.950 or preparing sacraments or whatever they're doing, 00:08:39.149 --> 00:08:43.429 all of those are opportunities for, um, for all, 00:08:43.570 --> 00:08:47.450 like, for me to, like, the burdens lifted so 00:08:47.450 --> 00:08:50.090 much off of me by having some of these, you know, 00:08:50.190 --> 00:08:52.309 people in place. I totally agree. The shit that 00:08:52.309 --> 00:08:56.269 they can trust in. Uh, I mean, even the girls 00:08:56.570 --> 00:08:58.710 They don't, maybe they're sort of a ministering 00:08:58.710 --> 00:09:01.090 capacity there, but I've watched it in my girls, 00:09:01.169 --> 00:09:03.169 they noticed the girls that aren't coming out 00:09:03.169 --> 00:09:07.049 and, you know, as the presidents of their class 00:09:07.049 --> 00:09:09.629 or whatever, they're thinking to look out for 00:09:09.629 --> 00:09:11.389 that more and can reach out to them. You know, 00:09:12.149 --> 00:09:16.610 we, like I, you have activity days, like not 00:09:16.610 --> 00:09:19.029 that it's the hugest deal, it's kind of the fun 00:09:19.029 --> 00:09:20.710 arm of things, but when kids aren't out to that, 00:09:20.730 --> 00:09:24.029 we can reach out to them and say, hey, you know, 00:09:24.230 --> 00:09:25.789 are we going to catch at this? We'll catch on 00:09:25.789 --> 00:09:28.029 the next one. It gives us an opportunity to check 00:09:28.029 --> 00:09:30.429 in on families that we might not have otherwise 00:09:30.429 --> 00:09:32.730 had. Maybe they're not going to be like just 00:09:32.730 --> 00:09:34.509 running to come to church every Sunday, but we 00:09:34.509 --> 00:09:36.669 can start with something like that. And then 00:09:36.669 --> 00:09:39.870 again, you're just another safety net of being 00:09:39.870 --> 00:09:42.230 a face, a friendly face, a caring face, somebody 00:09:42.230 --> 00:09:45.500 that cares about. about these kids in another 00:09:45.500 --> 00:09:48.240 way. Yeah, and I really love the visual of a 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.220 safety net. I do too. I totally think of like 00:09:50.220 --> 00:09:51.500 when you go to the, back in the day when you 00:09:51.500 --> 00:09:53.039 go to the circus or see something like that and 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:54.620 someone's up on a tightrope. This is a wild ride. 00:09:55.100 --> 00:09:56.279 Boom, yeah. Yeah, but they're still caught. And 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:57.860 they just bounce and they're good. Anyways, I 00:09:57.860 --> 00:10:00.039 just like that because it reminds me that that 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:04.220 is the way that the Lord has organized His church 00:10:04.220 --> 00:10:06.620 and that there are many safety nets put into 00:10:06.620 --> 00:10:10.000 place. It just makes me happy. I love it. It's 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:11.919 something we can learn to count and account. 00:10:12.190 --> 00:10:14.210 The church has in place a lot of tools to help 00:10:14.210 --> 00:10:16.769 us do this. Quarterly reports, that's an example, 00:10:17.149 --> 00:10:18.690 which allows us to count and account for each 00:10:18.690 --> 00:10:21.370 member multiple times. And notice those who are 00:10:21.370 --> 00:10:25.149 missing or need our help and our love. There's 00:10:25.149 --> 00:10:26.870 something called the action and interview list. 00:10:27.009 --> 00:10:29.950 I didn't know all these, Abby. You had a bishop 00:10:29.950 --> 00:10:33.350 for a husband. This isn't my life. I've been 00:10:33.350 --> 00:10:35.490 in a religious society and I do know you don't 00:10:35.490 --> 00:10:37.289 want people to feel like they're a number, but 00:10:37.289 --> 00:10:41.549 we do have a responsibility to. record names 00:10:41.549 --> 00:10:44.470 and check things. And if you go to somebody and 00:10:44.470 --> 00:10:45.809 they're like, I really don't want contacted, 00:10:46.450 --> 00:10:48.490 they totally have that option to let you know 00:10:48.490 --> 00:10:50.710 that and we can make notes. They don't want contacted, 00:10:50.950 --> 00:10:53.389 but kind of like it when, you know, those notes 00:10:53.389 --> 00:10:55.230 slip through the cracks and like this new eager 00:10:55.230 --> 00:10:58.389 missionary knocks on some random door. Oh, I 00:10:58.389 --> 00:11:00.570 didn't know that we weren't supposed to contact 00:11:00.570 --> 00:11:03.210 you. Maybe the timing's right, you know, so that 00:11:03.690 --> 00:11:05.950 I can be respectful of people's feelings, but 00:11:05.950 --> 00:11:09.590 it's also like, just tell us not to come around 00:11:09.590 --> 00:11:13.090 anytime that you want, but until you do, we have 00:11:13.090 --> 00:11:15.210 a mandate by Heavenly Father to keep track of 00:11:15.210 --> 00:11:17.169 his sheep and he considers you one of his sheep. 00:11:18.100 --> 00:11:20.980 Um, we're, we're here for that. The action and 00:11:20.980 --> 00:11:23.720 interview list identifies those who require attention 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:25.600 immediately. I'm hoping that that's happening 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:27.799 in ward councils. I haven't been to one for a 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:30.879 decade. At least the temple recommends status 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.019 report. You know, it might be like, why are they 00:11:33.019 --> 00:11:34.740 bugging me about that again? But what a beautiful 00:11:34.740 --> 00:11:37.399 thing. It's so easy for two years to go by and 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:39.419 not even think about it. And did you see on your 00:11:39.419 --> 00:11:41.419 phone how you can just slide the thing over and 00:11:41.419 --> 00:11:43.399 it says, be reminded for your temple recommend? 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:45.220 I think I did see that. I did that yesterday. 00:11:45.220 --> 00:11:47.279 I was like, oh my gosh. So I slid it over. We 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:48.659 are on the same schedule, aren't we, August? 00:11:49.620 --> 00:11:51.559 Yes. Because I feel like we were talking about 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:53.879 it because we just upgraded to the digital one. 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.240 Same. Yeah, I love it. It's amazing. So great. 00:11:57.419 --> 00:11:59.679 My teenagers did as well and this is going to 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:01.639 be a huge blessing for them. Yeah, that's awesome. 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:03.440 Just be ready to go to the temple anywhere because 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:08.220 we always have our phones. Exactly, right? Counting 00:12:08.220 --> 00:12:12.759 and accounting tools focus us in on people. So 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:14.759 I think that's some people's complaint is they're 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:16.340 like, well, I'm a number you're not enough I 00:12:16.340 --> 00:12:19.200 mean it creates a statistic for us to look at 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:20.700 like we could do a lot better like it's easy 00:12:20.700 --> 00:12:23.320 to be like Oh, you got 50 % ministering, you 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:25.860 know, that's yeah That's a good reminder to say 00:12:25.860 --> 00:12:27.360 we can do a little bit better But at the end 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:29.100 of the day it lets us know Oh so and so hasn't 00:12:29.100 --> 00:12:31.360 had a visit we can step in there because you 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:33.100 are numbered and named and you are important 00:12:33.100 --> 00:12:37.220 to that bird exactly There's lists that allow, 00:12:37.460 --> 00:12:39.720 like, help us to know who needs callings, who's 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:43.759 ready for priesthood advancement, who could maybe 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.460 use some help taking a family name to the temple. 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:50.059 Who could we be helping to prepare for a full 00:12:50.059 --> 00:12:53.320 -time mission? Who was maybe missing this month? 00:12:53.500 --> 00:12:55.419 These tools all help us to remember people, and 00:12:55.419 --> 00:12:57.720 these questions seem like those that would be 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:00.379 used in word counsel as each president or quorum 00:13:00.379 --> 00:13:02.759 of auxiliary sit around the table and work on 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.509 what is needed. for the people in the ward. Who's 00:13:05.509 --> 00:13:09.740 ready for the next... Who's ready for their next 00:13:09.740 --> 00:13:11.379 ordinance? Who's ready to make the next covenant 00:13:11.379 --> 00:13:13.919 with God? We can say it in a lot of different 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.299 ways, but if we do it with love and with desire 00:13:18.299 --> 00:13:22.480 to being an under -shepherd, we're not there 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:24.340 to gossip. We're not there to talk bad about 00:13:24.340 --> 00:13:26.179 people that haven't been. We're there to love 00:13:26.179 --> 00:13:28.399 them and help them in whatever way that they'll 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:30.779 accept our help. For sure. There's a way different 00:13:30.779 --> 00:13:33.200 thing and a different feeling in talking about 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.159 someone and giving details that really no one 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:38.320 needs to be giving details about. There's something 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:40.700 different in saying this family needs our help. 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:43.139 What can we do? Do you know what I mean? That's 00:13:43.139 --> 00:13:45.240 very effective when you do it the other way. 00:13:45.460 --> 00:13:48.019 So we're actually going to jump in on this. So 00:13:48.019 --> 00:13:49.980 Elder Jackson tells of a story of one of his 00:13:49.980 --> 00:13:52.379 friends. He moved to a large city as a graduate 00:13:52.379 --> 00:13:54.720 student and he was immediately put in as elders 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:56.539 quorum president. He was a little bit nervous 00:13:56.539 --> 00:13:59.200 and he was asked to meet with the state president. 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:01.500 He wanted to go feeling prepared. So we had a 00:14:01.500 --> 00:14:04.159 list of goals that were very data driven. When 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:06.620 he sat down the state president asked him this 00:14:06.620 --> 00:14:09.460 question. Can you name a less active core member 00:14:09.460 --> 00:14:12.480 who you could help get to the temple with his 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:15.240 family this year? And this question both caught 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:17.460 him off guard and also redirected his focus. 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:20.000 The stake president asked this question three 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.039 more times during the interview, and then it 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:25.440 was over. This young man walked out of that interview 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:29.519 having learned one of his greatest lessons on 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:31.580 leadership and ministering. He went into the 00:14:31.580 --> 00:14:34.539 interview with programs, lessons and activities. 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:37.480 and he walked out with names. So I love that 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:39.340 too. It totally reminds me of President Monson 00:14:39.340 --> 00:14:41.940 because he, one of his spiritual gifts was this. 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:46.460 He ministered to the one he focused on. I mean, 00:14:46.460 --> 00:14:48.840 we all know his, how many was it? 88 widows. 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:50.419 I forget what the number was, but it was something 00:14:50.419 --> 00:14:52.940 like, you know, like he was just so good at that. 00:14:53.019 --> 00:14:55.879 It was just very strong. And he is someone who 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:57.899 knows names. You know what I mean? And I think 00:14:57.899 --> 00:15:00.559 he also was the one who said, um, don't let a 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:03.690 program Gosh, get in the way of someone needing 00:15:03.690 --> 00:15:05.629 to be loved. Don't let a program become more 00:15:05.629 --> 00:15:07.110 important than a person to be loved or something. 00:15:07.269 --> 00:15:11.639 So this again, not to say that numbers are um 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:13.740 obsolete yeah or that we don't need him no it's 00:15:13.740 --> 00:15:15.899 just again there's a name attached to that number 00:15:15.899 --> 00:15:17.940 and those names matter and they matter to him 00:15:17.940 --> 00:15:19.919 and he wants to be able to record those names 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:22.740 in the temple yeah and if the lord was here he 00:15:22.740 --> 00:15:25.019 has a perfect memory and he would know all of 00:15:25.019 --> 00:15:26.860 these things in his little brain i mean in his 00:15:26.860 --> 00:15:29.759 brain we don't have that so we do need the helps 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:32.379 but we also just need to remember that if the 00:15:32.379 --> 00:15:34.659 lord were here how would he treat this one person 00:15:34.659 --> 00:15:37.639 who's sitting across from so good yeah So good 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.019 to think about these tools that they provided 00:15:41.019 --> 00:15:45.919 for us as a way to buffer that gap between his 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:48.679 perfect mind and what we're dealing with. Yeah. 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:51.980 Our memory. Our mortality. Our mortal brains. 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:54.799 It's a huge shift. You can see the difference 00:15:54.799 --> 00:16:01.159 in coming a stewardship, coming into this role 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:04.179 as a steward, having your ideas and what best 00:16:04.179 --> 00:16:07.590 approaches to take. being redirected to people 00:16:07.590 --> 00:16:11.100 and names that maybe you can impact. Yeah, yeah, 00:16:11.100 --> 00:16:12.940 we'll come, we'll come to these councils and 00:16:12.940 --> 00:16:15.460 we'll have these names. Sometimes it like, it'll 00:16:15.460 --> 00:16:17.179 resonate, it'll be like, oh, I can do this part 00:16:17.179 --> 00:16:19.139 for that family. And some you'll have to let 00:16:19.139 --> 00:16:22.000 go to others, you know, that have some stewardship 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:24.820 there. And they'll make the biggest impact. Sometimes, 00:16:24.860 --> 00:16:26.899 you know, a young man, they they need the other 00:16:26.899 --> 00:16:29.000 young men to invite them to basketball or something, 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:31.200 you know, there's there's starting ways to go. 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:32.399 You know, maybe once that's happening, maybe 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:34.200 the parents come out to the games, maybe at the 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:35.980 games, I'm impressed to go talk to those parents. 00:16:36.169 --> 00:16:39.669 My little piece and part of that whole plan. 00:16:40.450 --> 00:16:42.289 I think each of us could put into practice and 00:16:42.289 --> 00:16:44.509 ask Heavenly Father for a name if we're feeling 00:16:44.509 --> 00:16:48.330 overwhelmed with all of the things, all of the 00:16:48.330 --> 00:16:50.870 people that we could be working with. Jesus is 00:16:50.870 --> 00:16:52.870 a good shepherd, and because He's the good shepherd, 00:16:53.769 --> 00:16:55.610 the one who needs our attention at the moment 00:16:55.610 --> 00:16:58.129 is the one that He can direct us to. We can pray, 00:16:58.330 --> 00:17:00.250 we can ask for strength, we can ask for capacity 00:17:00.250 --> 00:17:03.029 to follow through on that prompting. I was so 00:17:03.029 --> 00:17:05.519 moved thinking, you know, that he came out of 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:07.720 that interview with the stake president with 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:11.140 a list of names that the spirit spoke to him. 00:17:11.420 --> 00:17:13.680 It makes it so different than like, here's this 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:16.160 list, get through the list, say that they've 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:19.539 been visited, check that box. It was so different 00:17:19.539 --> 00:17:22.619 than that. It really makes a shift from, yeah, 00:17:22.700 --> 00:17:24.220 we're counting them and they're on this list 00:17:24.220 --> 00:17:26.740 somewhere, but at the end of the day, we're really 00:17:27.299 --> 00:17:29.400 you know, the Spirit's told you that you have 00:17:29.400 --> 00:17:31.759 the best chance to, I know that you're going 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:33.660 to be in their path at this moment and like, 00:17:33.819 --> 00:17:36.339 make your shot. And maybe it won't be the thing 00:17:36.339 --> 00:17:38.819 that like, turns the corner or turns their hearts 00:17:38.819 --> 00:17:43.339 or gets them back to church, but it's another 00:17:43.339 --> 00:17:45.799 manifestation of God's love for them. And a few 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:47.799 more, you know, accumulate those a few times. 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:52.299 Maybe the difference is made, you know, eventually. 00:17:52.940 --> 00:17:56.099 Yeah. And like, it also just helps us to minister 00:17:56.099 --> 00:17:57.880 in the Lord's way. That's a good point, Abby. 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:00.660 It takes practice. For sure it does, Abby. Oh 00:18:00.660 --> 00:18:03.579 my goodness. I think more than anything, what 00:18:03.579 --> 00:18:05.720 I took from this talk is that I can do better. 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:07.779 When I'm feeling overwhelmed, I can stop and 00:18:07.779 --> 00:18:09.759 pray for guidance. Christ, like I was saying 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:11.880 before, is also the Prince of Peace. And having 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.380 peace in our hearts about who is in charge and 00:18:15.380 --> 00:18:17.619 putting into perspective that we are under shepherds 00:18:17.619 --> 00:18:20.259 or stewards is already helpful. I can pray and 00:18:20.259 --> 00:18:22.380 ask how to make ministering more personal and 00:18:22.380 --> 00:18:24.480 to see this person as Jesus sees them. I can 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:26.940 pray and ask what can I do to help? what can 00:18:26.940 --> 00:18:29.940 I do today to help the name that came to mind? 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:33.940 It was funny because I have been, with my health 00:18:33.940 --> 00:18:36.579 and stuff, I've really been out of the practice 00:18:36.579 --> 00:18:40.480 of having people over. And as I was getting ready 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:44.039 for this talk and looking over it, I was thinking, 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:45.799 I was like, okay, Heavenly Father, are there 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.059 any names that have come? And a name came of 00:18:48.059 --> 00:18:50.500 this cute couple in our ward, and I texted her 00:18:50.500 --> 00:18:52.950 today and asked her. them to come over for soup 00:18:52.950 --> 00:18:56.930 on Sunday. I was like so nervous afterwards because 00:18:56.930 --> 00:18:58.750 it just felt like I really put myself out there. 00:18:58.970 --> 00:19:01.230 And so exactly what you said before, it takes 00:19:01.230 --> 00:19:03.609 practice. I'm out of practice right now. I've 00:19:03.609 --> 00:19:05.509 done it a million times before for years and 00:19:05.509 --> 00:19:07.609 years and years, but I've been out of practice 00:19:07.609 --> 00:19:09.769 for a while and I'm like, oh wow, I haven't used 00:19:09.769 --> 00:19:11.509 this muscle for a while. So it's time to jump 00:19:11.509 --> 00:19:13.369 back on. But we had this conversation a couple 00:19:13.369 --> 00:19:14.829 of weeks ago and you kind of had this intention 00:19:14.829 --> 00:19:17.950 to invite somebody from the ward over every Sunday. 00:19:17.950 --> 00:19:20.140 Yeah. For a meal. For a treat, what was your 00:19:20.140 --> 00:19:21.500 thinking? Well, I was just going to do it simple. 00:19:21.660 --> 00:19:23.680 That's why it's just soup. Soup sounds lovely. 00:19:24.059 --> 00:19:27.099 I serve soup to my guests on Sunday. It's cold 00:19:27.099 --> 00:19:28.920 outside, so I think it works. It's totally soup 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:30.619 season. And then it's going to be like cold deli 00:19:30.619 --> 00:19:32.960 sandwich season after that. But I think it's 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.420 so cool. I don't know what your whole motivation 00:19:36.420 --> 00:19:39.279 is for it. But, you know, after the conversations 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:41.619 come out and you get to know people on a deeper 00:19:41.619 --> 00:19:43.660 level, who knows what all of those connections 00:19:43.660 --> 00:19:45.880 are all about? Or maybe, you know, there'll be 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:48.539 the link to somebody else that, you know. I don't 00:19:48.539 --> 00:19:51.740 know. I think it's so far reaching. I'm interested 00:19:51.740 --> 00:19:54.779 to see like where this goes to. Yeah. Well, it's 00:19:54.779 --> 00:19:56.700 funny too, Abby, that you say that because afterwards, 00:19:56.779 --> 00:19:58.700 I don't know how I looked, but I saw that she 00:19:58.700 --> 00:20:01.259 just got put in as a ministering sister to me. 00:20:01.259 --> 00:20:03.319 Oh, stop. And she's like my daughter's age. So 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:04.599 she's probably thinking, I don't even know who 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:06.940 this old lady is. And now she'll get to know 00:20:06.940 --> 00:20:10.609 me. What a blessing for her. She's gonna. For 00:20:10.609 --> 00:20:13.609 real, there's a gal, Terry, and my grandma was 00:20:13.609 --> 00:20:16.250 her ministering sister. I think she had gone 00:20:16.250 --> 00:20:18.329 through a divorce. Maybe she was recently remarried, 00:20:18.349 --> 00:20:20.250 and I think they ended up in a young woman's 00:20:20.250 --> 00:20:21.650 presidency together. But there would have been 00:20:21.650 --> 00:20:25.809 a 20, 30 -year gap of age there, and she was 00:20:25.809 --> 00:20:28.660 talking to me about my grandma. you the other 00:20:28.660 --> 00:20:30.779 day and emotional about it and like the love 00:20:30.779 --> 00:20:33.299 that they have so the age age makes doesn't have 00:20:33.299 --> 00:20:35.619 to be a thing right in the church but i love 00:20:35.619 --> 00:20:38.079 that she's your ministering she you have a ministering 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:39.759 connection but you are reaching out to her to 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:41.960 help form that relationship and maybe she's like 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:44.700 i don't want to minister i don't love it maybe 00:20:44.700 --> 00:20:46.420 she loves it maybe she's super excited about 00:20:46.420 --> 00:20:47.400 it maybe she just got put in yesterday because 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:49.059 i literally just saw that today they did some 00:20:49.059 --> 00:20:51.640 changes so you never know all of the reasons 00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:52.980 but i think it's really cool that you've been 00:20:52.980 --> 00:20:54.500 primed for that and that you feel like you have 00:20:54.500 --> 00:20:56.720 the energy to do that like not like your sunday's 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:01.329 busy enough What's also cool is that you couldn't 00:21:01.329 --> 00:21:03.230 cook there for a while, or you weren't cooking 00:21:03.230 --> 00:21:05.849 there for a while. So he wasn't like, hey, you 00:21:05.849 --> 00:21:08.029 should invite people over and then watch them 00:21:08.029 --> 00:21:11.049 eat. Yeah, it's like a gentle nudge, right? Okay, 00:21:11.210 --> 00:21:12.650 so Abby, do you have anything else that you want 00:21:12.650 --> 00:21:15.029 to share or that you want to add to the conversation? 00:21:15.289 --> 00:21:19.980 I love that you helped us remember. For me, this 00:21:19.980 --> 00:21:22.559 is an overwhelming thing. I love to I love to 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:25.160 pray on people about people I love to get inspired 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:27.460 to do something for people then they switch to 00:21:27.460 --> 00:21:28.980 this higher and holier way of ministering I'm 00:21:28.980 --> 00:21:31.319 still assigned people I actually really like 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:33.420 people love the people that I'm ministering to 00:21:33.420 --> 00:21:35.759 but it's always a little bit overwhelming like 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:40.240 Because it's like oh I've been I'm being forced 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:42.559 to have this relationship with you I wish that 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:45.480 there was a way to just like let people minister 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:48.109 in their way. Mm -hmm But because there does 00:21:48.109 --> 00:21:50.210 have to be accounting, I always have to remind 00:21:50.210 --> 00:21:52.069 myself, this is the Lord's way. He wants to know 00:21:52.069 --> 00:21:53.789 which sheep have been fed, and He wants the people 00:21:53.789 --> 00:21:55.789 that are, you know, another layer of that net 00:21:55.789 --> 00:21:58.410 to know, oh, they were ministered to. There's 00:21:58.410 --> 00:22:00.210 been nothing there. I can send them in a different 00:22:00.210 --> 00:22:02.750 way. He just, for His children, He just wants 00:22:02.750 --> 00:22:05.349 lots of layers of people protecting Him. He's 00:22:05.349 --> 00:22:07.630 the Good Shepherd, but He's got lots of us out 00:22:07.630 --> 00:22:10.809 there ready to help and, you know, bring back 00:22:10.809 --> 00:22:15.630 on, usher back, invite back, go seek out if they're 00:22:15.630 --> 00:22:19.490 missing. Um, and in, in a lot of ways when we're 00:22:19.490 --> 00:22:22.890 those people doing that, it means that he's like, 00:22:23.130 --> 00:22:28.009 you know, the 90 and is it 99 and one, when you're 00:22:28.009 --> 00:22:31.109 busy about being, um, an underling or what do 00:22:31.109 --> 00:22:34.529 you call them? A shepherd under shepherd. You're 00:22:34.529 --> 00:22:36.809 not lost. You're actively involved in helping 00:22:36.809 --> 00:22:41.079 keep the pack in. And so it's like. He has less 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:43.519 to worry about we're helping do the looking or 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:45.519 the watching out for he knows that we're in a 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:47.740 good place And it's good to be that sometimes 00:22:47.740 --> 00:22:50.259 even though we've been that we do wander and 00:22:50.259 --> 00:22:53.259 we do need somebody that's Primed and ready to 00:22:53.259 --> 00:22:55.599 be the the under Shepard to come and look for 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:59.740 us. And so it's a give -and -take but At the 00:22:59.740 --> 00:23:02.380 end of the day I can be overwhelmed by it because 00:23:02.380 --> 00:23:05.059 I sometimes feel like it's all my it's all my 00:23:05.059 --> 00:23:07.799 burden Yeah, but really this talk was good for 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:10.450 me because it just reminded me for that I've 00:23:10.450 --> 00:23:12.670 got a small part and piece to it and what that 00:23:12.670 --> 00:23:14.670 exactly looks like in any given minute can change. 00:23:14.690 --> 00:23:16.769 And so if I take that to prayer, what part and 00:23:16.769 --> 00:23:20.490 piece can I do for A, B, or C, or give me a name? 00:23:20.529 --> 00:23:24.470 Who can I work with right now? Who can I reach? 00:23:25.009 --> 00:23:28.529 What do my skills and capacity allow me to do 00:23:28.529 --> 00:23:32.069 right in this moment? I've asked him before, 00:23:32.190 --> 00:23:34.089 so I know that he can give me the answers to 00:23:34.089 --> 00:23:37.390 that. So this talk, if nothing else, is just 00:23:37.390 --> 00:23:42.150 reminding me It's a new year. It's time to reset. 00:23:42.910 --> 00:23:45.670 Like, let's up our efforts administering in his 00:23:45.670 --> 00:23:48.170 way and involve him in the process and just say, 00:23:48.549 --> 00:23:50.390 what can I do to serve you right now? That's 00:23:50.390 --> 00:23:53.049 great, Abby. Because yeah, one of the first feelings 00:23:53.049 --> 00:23:54.509 that a lot of people get when they hear about 00:23:54.509 --> 00:23:58.769 this is an overwhelm. Yeah. Same. Exactly. That 00:23:58.769 --> 00:24:01.490 exactly articulates home feeling. There is a 00:24:01.490 --> 00:24:03.049 quote that comes to mind from President Nelson. 00:24:03.269 --> 00:24:05.430 He said, a hallmark of the Lord's true and living 00:24:05.430 --> 00:24:07.910 church will always be an organized, direct effort 00:24:07.910 --> 00:24:10.210 to minister to individual children of God and 00:24:10.210 --> 00:24:12.890 their families. Because it is His church, we 00:24:12.890 --> 00:24:15.009 as His servants will minister to the one just 00:24:15.009 --> 00:24:17.269 as He did. We will minister in His name, with 00:24:17.269 --> 00:24:19.109 His power and authority and with His love and 00:24:19.109 --> 00:24:24.809 kindness. Like I said, like I agreed, it can 00:24:24.809 --> 00:24:26.809 feel overwhelming, but when you're strapping 00:24:26.809 --> 00:24:29.750 yourself, to our Savior Jesus Christ, who is 00:24:29.750 --> 00:24:32.750 the perfect example of this and learning in His 00:24:32.750 --> 00:24:36.829 way to serve as He served. Really, it can just 00:24:36.829 --> 00:24:39.490 be seen as a neat opportunity for growth at that 00:24:39.490 --> 00:24:43.849 point. Not a list of obligations and tasks that 00:24:43.849 --> 00:24:46.849 we have to check off, but just kind of a general 00:24:46.849 --> 00:24:51.630 change in our beings to just recognize what needs 00:24:51.630 --> 00:24:53.450 to be done or to be impressed with what needs 00:24:53.450 --> 00:24:56.049 to be done. Yeah, being aware. Like I can do 00:24:56.049 --> 00:25:00.349 that. Well, I think he's so, he is so kind and 00:25:00.349 --> 00:25:03.049 gentle rather than not involving him in the process 00:25:03.049 --> 00:25:04.710 and then like looking at it and thinking of it 00:25:04.710 --> 00:25:06.430 as a list and all of this thing you have to tackle 00:25:06.430 --> 00:25:08.609 and you have to do this, do these things. It's 00:25:08.609 --> 00:25:11.190 like people are an assignment. That was never 00:25:11.190 --> 00:25:13.490 his intention in his way. So that is always going 00:25:13.490 --> 00:25:17.130 to feel overwhelming when you do it his way and 00:25:17.130 --> 00:25:21.329 with the spirit that he provides for us. I do 00:25:21.329 --> 00:25:22.890 think it takes the overwhelm out and then you 00:25:22.890 --> 00:25:24.430 can say that you're definitely doing it in his 00:25:24.430 --> 00:25:27.470 way. It may be a phone call. It may be a text. 00:25:27.569 --> 00:25:30.250 It may be a hello. Maybe just recognize him at 00:25:30.250 --> 00:25:32.089 a church. Nice dress. Hey, could you help me 00:25:32.089 --> 00:25:35.150 with this thing? Oh, that was a lovely testimony 00:25:35.150 --> 00:25:37.930 you gave. I can't think of a million ways that 00:25:37.930 --> 00:25:40.450 it was, but all of those little touches are way 00:25:40.450 --> 00:25:44.329 more his way than scripted. Here's the lesson. 00:25:44.710 --> 00:25:49.670 First Thursday of the month. Yeah. I agree. So 00:25:49.670 --> 00:25:52.099 that's all I have. I love it. Thank you for sharing 00:25:52.099 --> 00:25:54.480 that. I'm going to go ahead and close with his 00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:57.700 testimony. He says, in the Church of Jesus Christ, 00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:00.359 we've been instructed by prophets past and prophets 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.500 present. and by the pattern of our Savior, how 00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:06.019 to minister. We take names, we remember, and 00:26:06.019 --> 00:26:08.539 we counsel over the welfare of souls. Leaders 00:26:08.539 --> 00:26:10.940 who do this will never run out of agenda items 00:26:10.940 --> 00:26:13.500 in their council meetings. The principle of counting 00:26:13.500 --> 00:26:16.019 and accounting works as the Lord's way. We can 00:26:16.019 --> 00:26:18.180 do better. To God who created the universe and 00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:21.160 rules over all, this work, His work in glory, 00:26:21.259 --> 00:26:23.940 is very personal. And so it should be for each 00:26:23.940 --> 00:26:26.640 of us, as instruments in His hands, in His amazing 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:29.539 work of salvation and exaltation, miracles in 00:26:29.539 --> 00:26:32.589 the lives of real people. will result in the 00:26:32.589 --> 00:26:37.190 name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Let me think, 00:26:37.630 --> 00:26:39.910 a Facebook question I would maybe pose if we 00:26:39.910 --> 00:26:41.849 were going to carry this on. I would love to 00:26:41.849 --> 00:26:47.750 hear examples of how someone has remembered you, 00:26:48.190 --> 00:26:53.910 how you've been touched by like ministering efforts 00:26:53.910 --> 00:26:55.910 of somebody without really feeling like a ministering 00:26:55.910 --> 00:26:58.859 effort. Yes, small and simple things basically 00:26:58.859 --> 00:27:04.380 will help me see like, you know, it'll kind of 00:27:04.380 --> 00:27:06.200 just give me some ideas of like, oh, that was 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:07.700 such a small and simple thing. I'd like to hear 00:27:07.700 --> 00:27:10.240 stories in that way. Yeah. And what it's saying 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:13.160 is the times I felt like a person and I would 00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:15.000 not a number. Yeah. I'm trying to say it that 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:16.660 way. Like, yes. When have I felt like one of 00:27:16.660 --> 00:27:19.980 his lost sheep rather than a number, a name or 00:27:19.980 --> 00:27:21.859 name on a list? So good. I love that. We'll see 00:27:21.859 --> 00:27:23.940 what we can get out of that one. All right. We'll 00:27:23.940 --> 00:27:25.900 see you guys next time. Have a good one.