WEBVTT

00:00:02.339 --> 00:00:04.660
Welcome to closer to Christ through general conference

00:00:04.660 --> 00:00:06.700
where two friends who love Jesus share our own

00:00:06.700 --> 00:00:08.539
approach to studying the most recent general

00:00:08.539 --> 00:00:11.500
conference talks. This is Abby and Amy. Let's

00:00:11.500 --> 00:00:31.510
jump into it. Today we're talking about Lovest

00:00:31.510 --> 00:00:34.409
Thou Me by Elder Stephen C. Barlow of the Seventy.

00:00:34.810 --> 00:00:36.969
We're so happy you joined us. Hey, Abby. Hey,

00:00:36.990 --> 00:00:39.969
Amy. So I'm going to get right down to it. He

00:00:39.969 --> 00:00:41.969
starts with in the parable of the prodigal son.

00:00:42.369 --> 00:00:44.369
So we all remember the elder brother. He was

00:00:44.369 --> 00:00:46.810
initially struggling to celebrate when his younger

00:00:46.810 --> 00:00:49.549
brother came back after a period of poor choices

00:00:49.549 --> 00:00:52.250
and wasting his substance with riotous living.

00:00:52.670 --> 00:00:55.310
So the elder brother's pride and self -righteousness

00:00:55.310 --> 00:00:57.350
kept him from embracing the joy of his brother's

00:00:57.350 --> 00:01:00.240
repentant return. Sometimes, you know, we may

00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:03.060
also let opportunities pass us by without letting

00:01:03.060 --> 00:01:05.140
our loved ones know, either through our words

00:01:05.140 --> 00:01:08.739
or actions of our sincere love for them. Maybe

00:01:08.739 --> 00:01:10.719
I felt this way in my younger years, you know,

00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:12.920
reading the parable until I reached the age of

00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:16.200
maturity to recognize that I am the prodigal

00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:18.519
son in the story. Most of us are. We all have

00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:21.900
a season, right? Or seasons. The amount of time

00:01:21.900 --> 00:01:25.599
we spent making decisions. contrary to our Father's

00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:28.159
desire or the degree of trouble we find ourselves

00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:30.939
in at various times. It always varies, but at

00:01:30.939 --> 00:01:33.260
the core we all have turned away and we all come

00:01:33.260 --> 00:01:37.079
gratefully back into our Father's presence, no

00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:39.819
matter how undeserving we feel about it. That

00:01:39.819 --> 00:01:43.019
is so me. Like six years ago while doing character

00:01:43.019 --> 00:01:46.530
profiles on Nephi, Sam, Laman, and Lemuel. I

00:01:46.530 --> 00:01:48.689
mean, all these years I'd be like, why are Layman

00:01:48.689 --> 00:01:51.189
and Lemuel punks? Why do they do this? You know,

00:01:51.310 --> 00:01:53.370
be like Nephi and Sam. And then I do this character

00:01:53.370 --> 00:01:55.670
profile and I'm like, oh my goodness, I am way

00:01:55.670 --> 00:01:59.810
more like Layman and Lemuel on the regular. And

00:01:59.810 --> 00:02:02.489
so I love that you did the character profiles.

00:02:02.650 --> 00:02:05.250
I was doing this with like a Sunday school class.

00:02:05.250 --> 00:02:06.890
I wrote it down and I'm like, which one do you

00:02:06.890 --> 00:02:09.110
identify with? And I think more of us are like

00:02:09.110 --> 00:02:11.469
that. So from the outside looking in the story,

00:02:11.490 --> 00:02:13.930
you're like, oh, I can see it's good to have

00:02:13.930 --> 00:02:16.860
them in the story so that we can say, Those are

00:02:16.860 --> 00:02:18.800
the things I need to recognize in myself so that

00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:22.080
I can be more like a Nephi and a Sam. But back

00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:25.280
to the topic, there are so many powerful examples

00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.280
in the scriptures of sincere love shared and

00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:29.280
received. We've got Naomi and Ruth, we've got

00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:31.060
Ammon and King Lamoni, and we've got the Savior

00:02:31.060 --> 00:02:35.539
and His disciples. So these stories illustrate

00:02:35.539 --> 00:02:39.120
for us the power that comes when love is freely

00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:42.060
given and also sincerely received. A virtuous

00:02:42.060 --> 00:02:44.039
cycle ensues with an increase of love between

00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:46.759
both the giver and the receiver. God's love is

00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:49.219
perfect, infinite, enduring, and most sweet.

00:02:49.780 --> 00:02:52.000
It fills the soul with exceedingly great joy.

00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:55.159
At times when we find it difficult to recognize

00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:57.620
God's love in our lives, there is a way around

00:02:57.620 --> 00:03:01.039
this. Our perfectly loving Heavenly Father so

00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:03.659
deeply desires for us to experience His love,

00:03:04.449 --> 00:03:07.370
that quote, he speaketh unto us according to

00:03:07.370 --> 00:03:09.810
our understanding. He'll express his love for

00:03:09.810 --> 00:03:12.490
us in ways that we as individuals can recognize.

00:03:13.009 --> 00:03:15.509
Many of you have probably heard of the love languages.

00:03:15.770 --> 00:03:18.340
It isn't something that I've. really deep dived

00:03:18.340 --> 00:03:21.240
into, but it was on my mind a lot in this talk.

00:03:21.740 --> 00:03:23.680
And it's been on my mind a lot over the years.

00:03:24.379 --> 00:03:26.699
I do think it's a great tool to be able to really

00:03:26.699 --> 00:03:29.599
understand how to show your love in the best

00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:31.419
way to the person that you're trying to receive

00:03:31.419 --> 00:03:33.960
that message of love. And it's good to know what

00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:35.620
your love language is so that you can recognize

00:03:35.620 --> 00:03:37.719
when others are trying to. love you in that way.

00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:41.159
So just briefly, the five categories are words

00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:43.699
of affirmation, quality time, gifts, acts of

00:03:43.699 --> 00:03:46.479
service and physical touch. So we can apply these

00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.439
in marriage and dating and parenting and friendships

00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:52.340
and in our work dynamics. So the premise of the

00:03:52.340 --> 00:03:55.250
love language is understanding the recipient

00:03:55.250 --> 00:03:57.729
of your love enough to avoid like mismatching

00:03:57.729 --> 00:04:00.289
delivery which then leads to less conflict if

00:04:00.289 --> 00:04:03.389
we understand how they feel loved and less energy

00:04:03.389 --> 00:04:07.270
expended on our behalf absolutely right yes absolutely

00:04:07.270 --> 00:04:11.050
um most people realize even when they love someone

00:04:11.050 --> 00:04:14.159
deeply in their way they may not be loving them

00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.720
in the way that that person understands or recognizes

00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:19.720
love. So when we know their love language, we're

00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:21.680
able to love them in a way that does not burn

00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:24.040
us out, just like you were saying. So this is

00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:26.060
the lead -up for the backdrop of this talk. If

00:04:26.060 --> 00:04:29.019
we want to show our love for God, we should understand

00:04:29.019 --> 00:04:33.050
how He ... recognizes our love. Oh, that's great.

00:04:33.629 --> 00:04:36.970
So today, we touch on both the idea that He knows

00:04:36.970 --> 00:04:39.410
us so well that He finds a way to show us His

00:04:39.410 --> 00:04:41.990
love, and then when we love Him back, we will

00:04:41.990 --> 00:04:44.670
express love in the way that He recognizes love.

00:04:44.810 --> 00:04:46.970
So good. Doesn't that still feel like love language

00:04:46.970 --> 00:04:49.170
conversation? Absolutely. I can see why that

00:04:49.170 --> 00:04:51.629
was coming to your mind. We may experience God's

00:04:51.629 --> 00:04:53.790
love for us when we observe the beauties of nature,

00:04:53.810 --> 00:04:56.410
I definitely am there, or receive answers to

00:04:56.410 --> 00:04:58.930
prayers, or have thoughts come to our mind in

00:04:58.930 --> 00:05:01.360
the very moment that we need that. or experience

00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:04.040
sweet moments of joy. The greatest manifestation

00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.480
of Heavenly Father's love for us that resonates

00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:08.779
with both mind and heart is when he allowed his

00:05:08.779 --> 00:05:11.879
beloved son to offer himself as the atoning one.

00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:14.699
Sometimes we're so consumed with seeking evidence

00:05:14.699 --> 00:05:17.060
of God's love for us that we become frustrated

00:05:17.060 --> 00:05:19.720
when we do not see it. A powerful takeaway from

00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.600
this talk. for our relationship with God and

00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:25.240
really all of our relationships in our life,

00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:27.920
just like Gabby mentioned, is this. The beautiful

00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.420
paradox is that the more we're focused on showing

00:05:30.420 --> 00:05:32.980
our love for God, the more easily we recognize

00:05:32.980 --> 00:05:35.220
His love for us. It's like our antenna is tuned

00:05:35.220 --> 00:05:37.939
to love, whether it's receiving or giving. Right.

00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:41.600
And you're saying that I'm thinking, isn't that

00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:43.399
all relationships? You cannot force somebody

00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.019
to love you, but regardless of that, you can

00:05:46.019 --> 00:05:49.139
love them. And I would say we've had a lot of

00:05:49.139 --> 00:05:50.860
conversations, sometimes when you're particularly

00:05:50.860 --> 00:05:53.259
struggling with somebody, put their name on the

00:05:53.259 --> 00:05:55.439
temple roll or ask for opportunities to serve

00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:58.819
them, service as love. that service then typically

00:05:58.819 --> 00:06:01.000
leads to love when there was maybe nothing there.

00:06:01.339 --> 00:06:03.939
So, this really applies in a relationship with

00:06:03.939 --> 00:06:05.680
God, which is a great one to start with, and

00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:08.000
it really then broadcasts to the other areas

00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:11.199
of our life, and it all gives us great blessings

00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:13.740
when we do that. So, when the Savior was questioned

00:06:13.740 --> 00:06:15.959
on what the greatest command was, we know that

00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:27.850
He replied, done nothing in our relationship

00:06:27.850 --> 00:06:30.589
with him to demonstrate our love back. How many

00:06:30.589 --> 00:06:32.649
earthly relationships would tolerate such a one

00:06:32.649 --> 00:06:35.610
-sided relationship like this? Not many, right?

00:06:35.709 --> 00:06:39.449
It's not long. Elder Kieran offers a wild suggestion

00:06:39.449 --> 00:06:42.629
next. If you're finding it frustrating and finding

00:06:42.629 --> 00:06:44.850
the right way to show love to someone you care

00:06:44.850 --> 00:06:48.050
about and it isn't the way that maybe they recognize

00:06:48.050 --> 00:06:50.189
it, he says it may be helpful to ask those we

00:06:50.189 --> 00:06:52.769
love how they recognize love expressed. What

00:06:52.769 --> 00:06:54.870
an excellent idea. So yeah, essentially saying

00:06:54.870 --> 00:07:02.910
know yourself and how can we show love? That's

00:07:02.910 --> 00:07:06.290
a novel idea. Instead of guessing, you just tell

00:07:06.290 --> 00:07:08.550
me and then I'll know. In our relationship with

00:07:08.550 --> 00:07:10.430
God, we don't have to guess His love language.

00:07:10.550 --> 00:07:13.110
He did spell it out for us. We just have to know.

00:07:13.810 --> 00:07:17.550
what it is and what to do with it. So we can

00:07:17.550 --> 00:07:19.610
turn to the examples in the scriptures. The first

00:07:19.610 --> 00:07:21.810
one they shared was, love is thou me more than

00:07:21.810 --> 00:07:24.069
these. Amy, why don't you take that one for us?

00:07:24.589 --> 00:07:27.029
Okay. The resurrected Lord and Peter shared this

00:07:27.029 --> 00:07:29.810
exchange. It's good to love many things, but

00:07:29.810 --> 00:07:32.050
is our love for the Savior more than our love

00:07:32.050 --> 00:07:36.009
for any other activity or person? Is He the most

00:07:36.009 --> 00:07:38.649
important influence in our lives? When he is,

00:07:38.670 --> 00:07:41.810
we have more capacity in all the other relationships

00:07:41.810 --> 00:07:44.930
in our lives. Yes. It reminds me of my dad used

00:07:44.930 --> 00:07:51.290
to do a, um, uh, an object lesson and you get

00:07:51.290 --> 00:07:54.250
like two jars, right? Okay. Um, let's say glass

00:07:54.250 --> 00:07:57.240
jars and first you fill it. with sand, which

00:07:57.240 --> 00:07:59.519
is all the other stuff, then you fill it with

00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:01.759
rocks or ping pong balls and it doesn't fit.

00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.220
But if you put the big things in first, meaning

00:08:04.220 --> 00:08:06.019
like do the stuff that's most important first,

00:08:06.339 --> 00:08:08.360
everything else actually fit into it when you

00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:09.819
do it that way. And that's what this is reminding

00:08:09.819 --> 00:08:11.939
of. It's like the most important influence, the

00:08:11.939 --> 00:08:14.519
most important relationship is with Jesus Christ.

00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:17.879
And when we do that, we have capacity for everything

00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:21.480
else. That's wonderful. I love that. That's an

00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:25.930
awesome object lesson. Right, it was for scriptures

00:08:25.930 --> 00:08:27.750
back in the day. Yeah, for love, that's a great

00:08:27.750 --> 00:08:29.410
one. Like, I know that we've used it like in

00:08:29.410 --> 00:08:32.409
our financial courses and, you know, when, you

00:08:32.409 --> 00:08:34.409
know, commandment, tithing's a commandment, and

00:08:34.409 --> 00:08:36.230
like a lot of people will try to save tithing

00:08:36.230 --> 00:08:38.070
for last and, you know, make all the other monthly

00:08:38.070 --> 00:08:40.870
bills work and stuff, but you put him first,

00:08:41.190 --> 00:08:43.250
you demonstrate that faith in him and that love,

00:08:43.669 --> 00:08:46.120
and then all of the other things. God math. Yeah,

00:08:46.419 --> 00:08:49.379
God math works. President Russell M. Nelson said,

00:09:12.500 --> 00:09:15.139
So we're demonstrating our love language by being

00:09:15.139 --> 00:09:17.480
a disciple and making him our top priority. And

00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:21.340
I mean, just that visual over the radio lines

00:09:21.340 --> 00:09:23.840
here, thinking of ping pong balls in a glass

00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:26.559
jar and with the sand. Stop being so consumed

00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:29.379
with making the sand fit. Do the ping pong ball.

00:09:29.899 --> 00:09:32.600
Know that God's on our side and He'll make room

00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:34.759
for everything else or He'll allow us to feel

00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:36.879
totally peaceful of letting those other things

00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:39.200
go. Don't have the room. That also reminds me

00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.799
of one of A quote from President Nelson. Uh huh.

00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:44.720
He said that things will either come into focus

00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:46.960
or they will slip out of our lives. And it's

00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.080
so true. That's so perfect. Yeah. Um, it makes

00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.259
me think, Amy and I just got done doing activity

00:09:52.259 --> 00:09:54.080
days. I got, she's, she's actually in charge

00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:55.860
of it and I got to be a sub today. So we were

00:09:55.860 --> 00:09:57.360
doing the thing and I was kind of working on

00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:00.120
my calendar that just came in and talking about,

00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:03.360
um, we, I don't know. I don't know if you set

00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:07.330
goals. particularly, but I do a word of the year

00:10:07.330 --> 00:10:08.850
and I was like, I came up with my word and I'm

00:10:08.850 --> 00:10:10.429
like, what is it? I said balance and she's like,

00:10:10.450 --> 00:10:12.110
that is totally one of my words. So you do a

00:10:12.110 --> 00:10:15.269
couple of words. I normally do one word, but

00:10:15.269 --> 00:10:17.830
it was capacity was my first word. And then I

00:10:17.830 --> 00:10:20.110
was like, but I've got to find balance with it.

00:10:20.110 --> 00:10:22.529
And so like I, cause I tend to swing one way

00:10:22.529 --> 00:10:26.029
or another. And so that's why balance is my big

00:10:26.029 --> 00:10:27.929
focus. Yeah. I think we're going to ask you guys

00:10:27.929 --> 00:10:31.049
what. If you were to be asked for a word of the

00:10:31.049 --> 00:10:32.690
year, like what that's going to look like. So,

00:10:32.690 --> 00:10:34.710
um, I came up with balance and a lot of the thing

00:10:34.710 --> 00:10:37.929
I'm thinking about is how I'm balancing work

00:10:37.929 --> 00:10:41.490
requirements and, um, church requirements and

00:10:41.490 --> 00:10:43.590
my relationships with each of my children, my

00:10:43.590 --> 00:10:46.649
husband, you know, all of these, all of these

00:10:46.649 --> 00:10:49.129
things. And then I was kind of brought that up

00:10:49.129 --> 00:10:50.750
in a work meeting today and I was saying like

00:10:50.750 --> 00:10:52.929
I'm really seeing it more of like a Triangle

00:10:52.929 --> 00:10:54.690
not like a two -sided balance and then I was

00:10:54.690 --> 00:10:56.649
like kind of like a juggling ball but I don't

00:10:56.649 --> 00:10:58.669
want ever want any of those relationships to

00:10:58.669 --> 00:11:01.929
feel like they're up in the air and being Juggled

00:11:01.929 --> 00:11:04.629
by me. I want them all to feel when I'm when

00:11:04.629 --> 00:11:07.210
I'm doing that responsibility that that I'm 100

00:11:07.210 --> 00:11:10.029
% invested in in that and I love that so some

00:11:10.029 --> 00:11:11.669
of the things that have happened throughout the

00:11:11.669 --> 00:11:14.509
day I'm like thinking about what we're podcasting

00:11:14.509 --> 00:11:19.309
and Sorry about that about my phone beeping.

00:11:20.570 --> 00:11:24.830
But I'm just thinking, what a great promise that

00:11:24.830 --> 00:11:28.269
we're given that as we put that extra energy

00:11:28.269 --> 00:11:32.429
into finding that balance or making that relationship

00:11:32.429 --> 00:11:37.389
with God, the most important one, all of the

00:11:37.389 --> 00:11:43.250
other things just will kind of become easier.

00:11:43.819 --> 00:11:46.740
Don't you think? Because it's mostly just being

00:11:46.740 --> 00:11:49.019
aware of it, right? Sure. If you're aware, then

00:11:49.019 --> 00:11:51.179
the spirit can direct you into, oh, maybe we

00:11:51.179 --> 00:11:53.580
do this right now, maybe we do that. Knowing

00:11:53.580 --> 00:11:55.799
what to pick up, knowing what to put away. I

00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:57.860
love that. I always can use extra help with that.

00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:00.139
And I've definitely done that. Like on some days,

00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:01.919
I like kind of look at what I have lined up to

00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:03.720
do. I'm like, I'm not doing this day. You're

00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:06.500
doing this day. You let me know. what takes priority,

00:12:06.620 --> 00:12:09.919
what's most important. I let him take the wheels

00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:12.179
on it and I'll be like, if I get half of it done,

00:12:12.379 --> 00:12:14.100
I hope it's the half that you would want me to

00:12:14.100 --> 00:12:16.320
have done. And I'm always surprised, usually

00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:18.919
the whole thing gets managed and I haven't felt

00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:21.620
too stressed about it because I know he did it.

00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:24.379
And I love giving him credit for those days that

00:12:24.379 --> 00:12:27.600
I'm like, that was way above my abilities and

00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.360
capacity, but you made it work. Which again,

00:12:30.460 --> 00:12:34.779
comes back to our words. Balance, capacity. So

00:12:34.779 --> 00:12:40.279
good. Why don't we go to the next one? Awesome.

00:12:40.740 --> 00:12:42.799
So, there's another one of how we show God love

00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:45.019
in the same conversation. So, this is right after

00:12:45.019 --> 00:12:48.500
His resurrection and it's with Peter. After asking,

00:12:48.700 --> 00:12:50.799
Lovest thou me? Peter replied, Gaylord, thou

00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:52.960
knowest that I love thee. His instruction is

00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.580
then, Feed my sheep. So, we show our love for

00:12:56.580 --> 00:12:59.600
Heavenly Father when we serve, listen to, love,

00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:02.559
lift, or minister to His children. And that service

00:13:02.750 --> 00:13:05.330
may be as simple as truly seeing others without

00:13:05.330 --> 00:13:08.889
judgment. It's interesting because this is perfectly

00:13:08.889 --> 00:13:12.490
in line with our next conference talk, Feed My

00:13:12.490 --> 00:13:14.990
Sheep, that, you know, we're talking about. I

00:13:14.990 --> 00:13:17.870
love how they organize and orchestrate which

00:13:17.870 --> 00:13:21.049
ones come after letting everybody get their inspiration.

00:13:21.129 --> 00:13:23.029
Yeah. Then the Lord kind of just orchestrates

00:13:23.029 --> 00:13:25.330
the perfect little conference for us. So great.

00:13:25.450 --> 00:13:50.230
In section 76 of D &C, it says, I love that.

00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:53.179
Oh, well, let's share that sweet story about

00:13:53.179 --> 00:13:55.080
service and the bonds that service bring about.

00:13:55.419 --> 00:13:58.679
So after returning home from my mission, he says,

00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:01.100
I took over the lawn care business that my brothers

00:14:01.100 --> 00:14:03.539
and I had started as teenagers. I was also busy

00:14:03.539 --> 00:14:05.659
with my university studies. One spring week,

00:14:05.899 --> 00:14:10.299
heavy rain and moving final exams left me overwhelmed

00:14:10.299 --> 00:14:13.419
and behind on this yard work. Midweek, the skies

00:14:13.419 --> 00:14:15.279
cleared and I planned to catch up on yard work

00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:17.480
after classes. But when I arrived home, my truck

00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:20.649
and my equipment were gone. Curious. I visited

00:14:20.649 --> 00:14:24.590
the scheduled yards. Each one had already been

00:14:24.590 --> 00:14:27.070
beautifully trimmed. At the last yard on the

00:14:27.070 --> 00:14:29.309
schedule, I saw my younger brother walking behind

00:14:29.309 --> 00:14:32.889
the mower. He saw me, smiled and waved. Overcome

00:14:32.889 --> 00:14:35.110
with gratitude, I hugged and thanked him. His

00:14:35.110 --> 00:14:36.889
meaningful act of service deeply strengthened

00:14:36.889 --> 00:14:40.710
my love and my loyalty for him. So sweet. I love

00:14:40.710 --> 00:14:43.850
that. I love that story, but I was just thinking,

00:14:44.350 --> 00:14:46.370
when you're impressed to take a casserole to

00:14:46.370 --> 00:14:48.919
somebody, Like, let's say I feel impressed to

00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:51.740
bring a casserole to Amy, and I do that, like,

00:14:52.659 --> 00:14:55.539
in that way, God would have loved to bring you

00:14:55.539 --> 00:14:57.159
the casserole, and that's not something He's

00:14:57.159 --> 00:14:59.480
able to do. He requires us to be His hands and

00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:01.620
do the service and stuff. So, in that way, like,

00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:04.419
you can picture delivering that casserole to

00:15:04.419 --> 00:15:07.759
God on behalf of God. And this story, I mean,

00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:10.000
think about it. At the age that He is, this is

00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:14.200
probably like a 40 -year -old story. And it still

00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:18.980
touches His heart. I love it. The Lord said in

00:15:18.980 --> 00:15:21.500
nothing does man offend God save those who confess

00:15:21.500 --> 00:15:24.440
not his hand in all things So we show our love

00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:26.779
to God by acknowledging him as a source of every

00:15:26.779 --> 00:15:28.740
good thing in our lives And we also manifest

00:15:28.740 --> 00:15:31.879
our love of God by having a grateful heart the

00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:36.330
best way of sharing our example is to use the

00:15:36.330 --> 00:15:39.049
story that he illustrated. He used a story of

00:15:39.049 --> 00:15:42.490
his career to illustrate this. In the early days

00:15:42.490 --> 00:15:44.669
of launching a company, my business partner and

00:15:44.669 --> 00:15:46.909
I would pray earnestly before important meetings,

00:15:47.389 --> 00:15:49.549
asking for Heavenly Father's help. Time after

00:15:49.549 --> 00:15:51.789
time, God answered our prayers and our meetings

00:15:51.789 --> 00:15:53.990
went well. After one meeting my business partner

00:15:53.990 --> 00:15:56.269
pointed out we'd been really quick to ask for

00:15:56.269 --> 00:15:58.659
help. but really slow to give thanks. So from

00:15:58.659 --> 00:16:01.100
then on, we made a habit of offering sincere

00:16:01.100 --> 00:16:03.159
prayers of gratitude, recognizing the Lord hand

00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:05.580
in our success. We show our love for God with

00:16:05.580 --> 00:16:07.879
an attitude of gratitude. Gratitude has a well

00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:10.120
-documented positive impact on mental health.

00:16:10.379 --> 00:16:12.480
And lots of times, mental health helps decrease

00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:15.100
the pressure on our physical state, too. We know

00:16:15.100 --> 00:16:17.720
it reduces anxiety, depression, and over time,

00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.919
we can even rewire our brains. You know, those

00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:24.320
... Feel good neurotransmitters get released

00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:26.779
as we're thankful for things the dopamine the

00:16:26.779 --> 00:16:29.539
serotonin we like that hit Grateful people may

00:16:29.539 --> 00:16:33.200
experience the same setbacks But they tend to

00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:35.480
recover faster and tolerate uncertainty and disappointment

00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:38.379
better Gratitude strengthens social bonds and

00:16:38.379 --> 00:16:40.440
relationships and overall well -being grateful

00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:43.759
people have higher satisfaction of life I love

00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:47.679
that. It reminds me, too, if you take the church's

00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:50.740
course on self -reliance. Emotional self -reliance.

00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.580
That is one of the first things we do, is you

00:16:53.580 --> 00:16:55.480
start to make a gratitude journal, and at least

00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:57.399
every single day you write something you're grateful

00:16:57.399 --> 00:16:59.019
for. It's just a great way to start the day.

00:16:59.580 --> 00:17:02.240
And so, yeah, for emotional, for everything,

00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.839
it really helps things. So Christ said, If ye

00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.140
love me, keep my commandments. We show our love

00:17:08.140 --> 00:17:10.180
for Heavenly Father and His beloved Son when

00:17:10.180 --> 00:17:13.289
we choose to obey them. Do we do it out of fear?

00:17:13.829 --> 00:17:16.430
Is our obedience with a willing heart? Father

00:17:16.430 --> 00:17:19.410
wants us to be, to want to be obedient. Right?

00:17:19.609 --> 00:17:24.089
Emphasis on the want. Yeah. That's not hard to

00:17:24.089 --> 00:17:28.529
understand because if you, if you're the child

00:17:28.529 --> 00:17:30.529
of a parent, or you have the opportunity to be

00:17:30.529 --> 00:17:32.869
a parent yourself, you know that's a relationship.

00:17:33.089 --> 00:17:35.309
You can only teach your kids so much and then

00:17:35.309 --> 00:17:37.430
at a certain point you have to see what they

00:17:37.430 --> 00:17:39.450
do with the things that you've taught them. And

00:17:39.450 --> 00:17:42.450
if you force them to do good things, It's fine.

00:17:42.809 --> 00:17:46.750
They've done good. If they, against all odds,

00:17:47.029 --> 00:17:50.069
choose to do good, you're not there to like hold

00:17:50.069 --> 00:17:51.829
their hand and help them make a decision. They

00:17:51.829 --> 00:17:53.170
come home, they're like, yeah, such and such

00:17:53.170 --> 00:17:55.569
happened and I did this. You're leaping for joy

00:17:55.569 --> 00:17:58.690
inside. Cause you get to see that they wanted

00:17:58.690 --> 00:18:01.829
to want to choose the better option. Totally.

00:18:02.170 --> 00:18:03.809
It reminds me, I don't know if you've seen the

00:18:03.809 --> 00:18:07.069
video this week and come follow me. Elder Bednar

00:18:07.069 --> 00:18:11.519
starts it off and first he talks about keeping

00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:13.660
your first and second estate. He explains it

00:18:13.660 --> 00:18:16.839
so well. And then inevitably, because he always

00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:19.140
talks about how we're agents to act and not be

00:18:19.140 --> 00:18:22.880
acted upon, you know, he says, remember, we have

00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:25.319
agency, but we don't have it to do whatever we

00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:27.799
want with it. We have it to learn to choose Christ

00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.099
over and over again. And I love that. Reminds

00:18:30.099 --> 00:18:32.960
me of this, like, it's why it was a gift to use

00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:35.000
it the best we could and to bring about the most

00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:37.660
good and the most joy that we could in our life.

00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.890
I love that. Um, that makes me think back up

00:18:40.890 --> 00:18:43.750
to the example that, um, this brother gave about

00:18:43.750 --> 00:18:46.589
his business partner. Uh, he's not saying every

00:18:46.589 --> 00:18:49.349
deal went through that they were trying to accomplish.

00:18:49.730 --> 00:18:51.589
When you put God in the picture, when ones didn't

00:18:51.589 --> 00:18:54.029
go through, they could still have the attitude

00:18:54.029 --> 00:18:57.029
of it was for a reason why something didn't manifest

00:18:57.029 --> 00:18:59.190
or why didn't it come to pass. Yeah. And that's

00:18:59.190 --> 00:19:01.430
also great. So the more that we involve them,

00:19:01.430 --> 00:19:05.349
the more that we can get into the mindset that

00:19:05.349 --> 00:19:07.630
that didn't happen, but it's because something

00:19:07.630 --> 00:19:10.930
better. For sure. It is inevitably going to happen.

00:19:10.950 --> 00:19:14.710
Yes. When the timing's right. I agree. Sister

00:19:14.710 --> 00:19:19.410
Tamra Roonya, she called that love of wanting,

00:19:20.150 --> 00:19:22.829
how did you word that? He wants us to want to

00:19:22.829 --> 00:19:25.549
be obedient. Sister Roonya calls this affectionate

00:19:25.549 --> 00:19:28.109
obedience. That's great. She said, even though

00:19:28.109 --> 00:19:31.609
we don't have perfect obedience yet, we try affection

00:19:31.609 --> 00:19:35.490
and obedience. Again, referencing examples with

00:19:35.490 --> 00:19:38.940
our children. Our children try. to make the better

00:19:38.940 --> 00:19:41.500
choice, and it doesn't really totally pan out,

00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:44.700
then trying is just as sweet as really getting

00:19:44.700 --> 00:19:48.880
it well. Elder Dale G. Renlund said, our Heavenly

00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:51.160
Father's goal in parenting is not to have his

00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:53.099
children do what is right, it is to have his

00:19:53.099 --> 00:19:55.180
children choose to do what is right and ultimately

00:19:55.180 --> 00:19:57.119
become like him. Again, another way to say the

00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:01.079
same great thing. Heavenly Father gave us agency,

00:20:01.140 --> 00:20:05.059
so here we are, to inspire us to want to choose

00:20:05.059 --> 00:20:07.809
him. He wants us to have eternal life, but he

00:20:07.809 --> 00:20:10.390
also hopes that we will be with him. Our agency

00:20:10.390 --> 00:20:14.170
is such a huge condition of the plan. If he simply

00:20:14.170 --> 00:20:16.470
wanted us to be obedient, he would use immediate

00:20:16.470 --> 00:20:19.329
rewards and punishments to influence our behaviors,

00:20:19.509 --> 00:20:21.109
right? We would see immediately that, oh, that

00:20:21.109 --> 00:20:23.809
didn't work out. Not how it works. We show our

00:20:23.809 --> 00:20:26.579
love for God when we choose to obey. and follow

00:20:26.579 --> 00:20:28.720
him. We can really get into the immediate rewards

00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:30.619
and punishments like if you start thinking about

00:20:30.619 --> 00:20:32.900
like with when you're small and you have kids,

00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:35.400
you have to get a hot stove, right? Things like

00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:36.940
that. Immediately get hurt and immediately don't

00:20:36.940 --> 00:20:38.799
do that again. And the laws of nature, like the

00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:43.130
law of gravity, pretty immediate. you hold the

00:20:43.130 --> 00:20:44.710
ball out like this and it drops. You know what

00:20:44.710 --> 00:20:46.589
I mean? Right. And just to go back to the come

00:20:46.589 --> 00:20:48.069
follow me for the week that you were referencing

00:20:48.069 --> 00:20:49.549
in the Elder Bednar, I'm definitely going to

00:20:49.549 --> 00:20:51.269
go on the first and second estate. You get to

00:20:51.269 --> 00:20:52.730
make your choices. You don't really get to choose

00:20:52.730 --> 00:20:55.170
the consequences of what those are, but obviously

00:20:55.170 --> 00:20:57.289
there's stuff in line that when we're making

00:20:57.289 --> 00:20:59.390
good choices that that will eventually lead to

00:20:59.390 --> 00:21:01.490
the better consequences that we're shooting for.

00:21:01.769 --> 00:21:05.970
Being more like God, being prepared and ready

00:21:05.970 --> 00:21:10.700
to abide in His. Biden his presence, but this

00:21:10.700 --> 00:21:13.160
comes up all the time people when people will

00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:15.500
say like I'm making all these right decisions

00:21:15.500 --> 00:21:17.839
And they're not seeing the blessings from that

00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:21.480
It's like if you if that's them if that's a mindset

00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:23.079
that you think that it needs to be immediate

00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:25.299
Then you're you're expecting like a childish

00:21:25.299 --> 00:21:29.299
It's more of a child's response. You you know

00:21:29.299 --> 00:21:31.039
that if you ask a kid to do work and you're gonna

00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:33.900
give them What do you call that money chore money

00:21:33.900 --> 00:21:37.119
or whatever? If a year goes by, they're going

00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:38.859
to stop doing the chores, right? It's like you

00:21:38.859 --> 00:21:40.180
do the chore, you get paid at the end of the

00:21:40.180 --> 00:21:43.160
week. You have to motivate based on age level.

00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:44.700
You have to motivate a little bit more quickly.

00:21:44.700 --> 00:21:46.779
And then, you know, as they get older, it's okay

00:21:46.779 --> 00:21:48.759
that you're saying, you know, you're saving for

00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:50.980
a car. Your payment is, you know, this is a harder

00:21:50.980 --> 00:21:52.380
job. It's going to take you longer to do. It's

00:21:52.380 --> 00:21:54.599
not just like picking up your toys. It's like

00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:57.319
really trimming the yard or deep cleaning something

00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:02.539
or whatever. You can stretch out the growth and...

00:22:02.109 --> 00:22:05.670
stretch out the reward for that and it's just

00:22:05.670 --> 00:22:09.549
a pattern of growth that he uses in us to become

00:22:09.549 --> 00:22:13.170
like him. If our whole lives it was like you

00:22:13.170 --> 00:22:14.809
did a good thing and you got the reward for the

00:22:14.809 --> 00:22:17.769
thing, where's the growth? And I think he's just

00:22:17.769 --> 00:22:19.170
trying to point that out. It doesn't mean I don't

00:22:19.170 --> 00:22:20.990
hear you, that I'm not getting ready to bless

00:22:20.990 --> 00:22:23.230
you. The blessing, it's not the time for the

00:22:23.230 --> 00:22:27.130
blessing. Trust me. Just have this conversation

00:22:27.130 --> 00:22:30.009
with me and recognize that you know that you're

00:22:30.009 --> 00:22:33.009
on the right path. And you can say to him, you

00:22:33.009 --> 00:22:34.670
know, if I need some course correction, let me

00:22:34.670 --> 00:22:35.910
know. But if you're feeling like you're on the

00:22:35.910 --> 00:22:37.670
path that he wants you to be on, but you're not

00:22:37.670 --> 00:22:40.349
getting the blessing you're asking for, it's

00:22:40.349 --> 00:22:43.109
coming. It is. It's interesting too, as I look

00:22:43.109 --> 00:22:47.380
back at my life, totally along the same vein.

00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:51.180
I've noticed that because Heavenly Father has

00:22:51.180 --> 00:22:54.980
the perfect gift of discretion, meaning how much

00:22:54.980 --> 00:22:58.500
to give, when to hold back, he knows the exact...

00:22:58.619 --> 00:23:01.779
Amount at any given time for me. I would always

00:23:01.779 --> 00:23:04.380
like it to be sooner than later, right? Human

00:23:04.380 --> 00:23:07.019
nature. Yeah, and I just not selfish. It is exactly

00:23:07.019 --> 00:23:09.819
all of us feel that way I've noticed over time

00:23:09.819 --> 00:23:12.660
that it is a little more delayed that like it's

00:23:12.660 --> 00:23:14.880
not the same as it was when I first started really

00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.059
just Going down the path and themes things seemed

00:23:18.059 --> 00:23:20.180
a little more immediate. They are a little more

00:23:20.180 --> 00:23:24.400
drawn out now and I was listening to what president

00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:27.160
Eyring was saying the other day, talking about

00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:31.220
proving and being strengthened. And he said,

00:23:31.339 --> 00:23:33.420
when those types of things happen, you can just

00:23:33.420 --> 00:23:36.940
take that as God's trust in you, that He's growing

00:23:36.940 --> 00:23:38.839
you. And I was like, hey, that's, I mean, that's

00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:41.279
a good way to look at it, right? When you're

00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:43.019
not having the immediate things you used to.

00:23:43.500 --> 00:23:45.380
I don't know if it will really apply or resonate

00:23:45.380 --> 00:23:47.319
with people that are listening, but a lot of

00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:49.039
us that are doing the parenting thing, as I'm

00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:51.819
watching my older friends raise older children

00:23:51.819 --> 00:23:54.960
and you don't have that, that daily guidance

00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:56.339
and they're really making decisions on their

00:23:56.339 --> 00:23:58.019
own. I've seen a lot of heartache as the kids

00:23:58.019 --> 00:24:00.680
are making their own decisions and experimenting

00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.180
what it looks like to use that agency and experience

00:24:03.180 --> 00:24:05.640
the consequences that come with that. But another.

00:24:05.819 --> 00:24:08.759
reason why this is so great is that, you know,

00:24:08.859 --> 00:24:12.039
it's not, it's not one second in time. It's this

00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:15.039
long relationship. It's this covenant relationship

00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:17.319
and we have so much time for learning and for

00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:20.240
growth. And so some comfort and peace to give

00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:22.980
is that it's like, um, they're still in the process

00:24:22.980 --> 00:24:24.920
of learning and the promises that we've been

00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.380
made with, um, because of, you know, one of the

00:24:27.380 --> 00:24:29.539
pieces of love that he shows us is these covenants

00:24:29.539 --> 00:24:32.440
and they are strong and they are lasting and

00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:36.869
they extend beyond the veil. And so we're not,

00:24:37.049 --> 00:24:39.009
you know, we're not going to type our emotions

00:24:39.009 --> 00:24:41.450
based on just a little snapshot time. It's going

00:24:41.450 --> 00:24:44.690
to be this big picture look that he has on things.

00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:47.630
That's so good, Abby. Thank you. Uh, I think

00:24:47.630 --> 00:24:49.289
we've covered everything. Did you have anything

00:24:49.289 --> 00:24:51.890
else to share? I believe I shared it all. Okay.

00:24:52.230 --> 00:24:55.549
Let me close with this testimony. He said, I

00:24:55.549 --> 00:24:57.690
testify that each one of us is truly a child

00:24:57.690 --> 00:25:00.569
of God. He loves us perfectly. I testify that

00:25:00.569 --> 00:25:03.569
He yearns for us to experience His love in ways

00:25:03.569 --> 00:25:05.990
we recognize and understand. And the beautiful

00:25:05.990 --> 00:25:08.210
paradox is that we will experience His love for

00:25:08.210 --> 00:25:12.529
us even more deeply as we show our love for Him.

00:25:13.390 --> 00:25:15.369
And this He does in the name of Jesus Christ.

00:25:17.710 --> 00:25:22.490
What comes to mind on Facebook? If they want

00:25:22.490 --> 00:25:24.609
to join us on Facebook, what could we ask them?

00:25:25.109 --> 00:25:29.490
Oh, that's a good question. How about what area

00:25:29.490 --> 00:25:32.450
are you impressed to focus on to show God that

00:25:32.450 --> 00:25:34.730
you love Him? Yeah. And then I'm going to put

00:25:34.730 --> 00:25:37.150
a second one up. I would love to hear if people,

00:25:37.230 --> 00:25:39.809
we're starting to get a few more people on there.

00:25:40.349 --> 00:25:43.089
And again, it is not what it's going to be. It's

00:25:43.089 --> 00:25:44.890
the beginnings of what it's going to be. Seeds

00:25:44.890 --> 00:25:47.970
of greatness. Yes, planting seeds, what we have

00:25:47.970 --> 00:25:50.930
the capacity for. Anyway, we're going to share

00:25:50.930 --> 00:25:54.210
our words of the year and like kind of like what

00:25:54.210 --> 00:25:56.769
we want, what we're hoping to see come from that.

00:25:56.829 --> 00:25:58.970
If you guys want to share what your ambitions

00:25:58.970 --> 00:26:00.750
for the new year are, if there's a word that

00:26:00.750 --> 00:26:03.109
you could kind of spell it out, I would love

00:26:03.109 --> 00:26:05.450
to have a conversation about that. So we'll put

00:26:05.450 --> 00:26:08.309
those up and we will catch you in the next one.

00:26:08.390 --> 00:26:09.190
Catch you next time.
