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Welcome to closer to Christ through general conference

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent general

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conference talks. This is Abby and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Today we're talking about Simplicity

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in Christ by Elder Michael Ciesla of the 70s.

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Yes, Utah is full of green jello and funeral

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potatoes, but in the time that Elder Ciesla spent

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there as a missionary, he was also acutely aware

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and also deeply impressed by the devotion and

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the discipleship of many of the saints. He talked

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about the sheer number of people attending church

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meetings and also the scale of fully functioning

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church programs. He gained a deep love for the

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people of Utah and wanted to take that joy and

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spiritual strength and maturity back with him

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to Germany, but he absolutely planned to come

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back to Utah to raise his own future family so

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he could have similar experiences for them. That's

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awesome. Not long after returning home, he was

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called to serve as a young man president. So

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it's no surprise to us that he learned that the

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same joy of the gospel he felt in Utah was He

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was blessed to feel also in Germany. The joy

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that comes from being a disciple of Jesus of

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Christ has very little to do with the size of

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church and the needings of the scales. sorry,

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church meetings and the scale of programs. President

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Russell M. Nelson taught us many years ago, the

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joy we feel has nothing to do or little to do

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with the circumstances of our lives and everything

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to do with the focus of our lives. When the focus

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of our life is on Christ and His gospel message,

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we can experience the full blessings of discipleship

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wherever we live. I really loved it today as

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I was pondering this talk, how the entire sacrament

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meeting was focused on The youth theme, Doctrine

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and Covenants 636, which is look unto Christ,

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doubt not, fear not, which was shared by, you

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know, the youth took over. They did testimonies,

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thoughts, and song, and each kind just got a

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bare testimony of how they've been blessed through

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difficult times with a focus on this theme, a

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focus on Jesus Christ. One of the youth I really

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liked shared how, yeah, it's written as a youth

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theme and it's the focus of the youth, but because

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they're focusing on it, that it that he's seen

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that it affects their family or is positive as

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the family works more to focus on Jesus Christ,

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so it's not just a youth blessing. And we're

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experiencing that, too. For sure. It was so good,

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Abby. And it seems like an easy enough challenge

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to focus on Christ, but really the challenge

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is that we live in an increasingly secular...

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complex and also confusing world. You could say

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that the world tries to blind our eyes and harden

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our hearts to the point that the plain and precious

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things of the gospel of Jesus Christ are lost

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to us or they don't resonate. The apostle Paul's

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advice to the saints of Corinth is just as important

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to us now when he reminded them to focus on the

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simplicity that is in Christ. Such good words.

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I think it's because our default setting as adults

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in this mortal experience appears to be to overcomplicate

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things. Sure. That's why I love teaching the

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little children. They're easy to teach because

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they don't overcomplicate life. When they share

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their testimonies, it's often in a simple way

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and it always pierces my heart. They can say

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the simplest things and I'm like, They're just

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kind of cut into the chase and it's so good.

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From the talk, he says, the doctrine of Christ

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and the law of the gospel are so simple that

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even little children can understand them. Yep.

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The gospel can be summarized in one sentence,

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exercising faith in Jesus Christ, repenting,

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being baptized, being sanctified through the

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gift of the Holy Ghost, and enduring to the end.

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So if we do these things, we can access the redeeming

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power of Jesus Christ and also receive all the

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spiritual blessings that our Father in heaven

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has prepared for each of us. I love how President

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Nelson described this journey so beautifully

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as the covenant path and the process of becoming

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a devout disciple of Jesus Christ. Amy summarized

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the gospel for us in just one sentence, you know,

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just a minute ago. The principles of the gospel,

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they are simple, but I guess the problem is that

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we're finding that that doesn't mean that it

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doesn't come with its own challenges. The gospel

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is simple. Life is hard. what it takes is constant

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effort and diligence. I think you saying that,

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you know, complicating things is the default

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setting of adults, and I totally agree with that.

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Listen to the line from this talk where he says,

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put off the natural man and become like a little

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child. This includes putting our trust in the

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Lord and letting the complexity go, just as little

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children do. Applying the doctrine of Christ

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in a simplified and focused way will help us

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to find joy in our daily lives, give guidance

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in our callings, answer some of life's most complex

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questions, and provide strength to face our greatest

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challenges. I think it's a good reminder to remember

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this is a lifelong journey, a lifelong process.

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He asked the question in this talk, how can we

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practically implement this simplicity in our

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lifelong journey as disciples of Christ? That's

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a great question, Abby. President Nelson reminded

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us to focus on pure truth, pure doctrine, and

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pure revelation as we seek to follow the Savior.

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I think that's one of the the most succinct way

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to put it. And another good question, what would

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the Lord Jesus Christ have me do? It's a simple,

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powerful way to open ourselves up to revelation.

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And basically, I think the answer you get most

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of the time, it's simple. It's simplicity. Yes.

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We overcomplicate things. We are masters at overcomplicating

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things. That's true. Following the example that

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our savior set for us helps us to choose to do

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what he did and not just know what he did in

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this life on earth. There's a big difference

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there, right? His example provides a safe path

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through uncertainty and a loving guiding hand

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to hold from day to day. I love that one of the

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youth said that today, that she knows that. Jesus

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can be there to hold her hand through the things,

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you know So many times we feel like he's supposed

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to take everything and that's not the case We

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are here to have experiences. Yes from the examples

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of his life. He invites us to love God keep Keep

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his commandments and also love our neighbors

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I got a great series of titles from this talk.

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Here's what he called them in this talk. He said,

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He's the Prince of Peace and the Good Shepherd.

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He is our Comforter and our Deliverer. He is

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our Rock and Refuge. He is a friend. And I love

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that. I love when they mention names of Christ

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because it feels like they're deeply personal

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to them. They can kind of come up with any one

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of them. But I think what he's trying to say

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is, I'm telling you, life is as simple as keeping

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it simple. But I know that that's a complicated

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thing because life comes with its own challenges.

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when he points out these names of Christ, to

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me it means his life hasn't been easy and perfect.

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And when we see like the back history, the family

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history story, and what it took to get his family

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where they are, I think he's coming from a place

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of saying, I've dealt with some challenges, my

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family's dealt with some challenges, but these

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are the things we were able to count on with

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Jesus Christ, and so he made the path easier

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for us because we did rely on him. For sure.

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Applying simple gospel principles. will help

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us navigate through life's challenges in the

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Lord's way. So just some ideas, simple acts like

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prayer, fasting, scripture study, daily repentance,

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partaking of the sacrament weekly, regular worship

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in the house of the Lord. So just like you said,

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Abby, challenges aren't removed and heartache

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may still find us. It most certainly will, but

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our capacity to endure these challenges has changed

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and we find strength and confidence before God,

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I 100%. Agree with that. We just talked about

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this just right a talk or two ago and I love

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how they build on each other They really do when

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you hit that I'm like, there's not people sometimes

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they feel embarrassed by saying well, what's

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the answer to this challenge read? fast study

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pray Go to church like they're the like these

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answers are getting overused. They're not. They're

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underused. That's what we need to base everything

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around. If you add anything to it that's accessory,

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these are the things that will keep us, you know,

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paired with Jesus Christ and blocking these difficult

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challenges with Him. For sure. And I know I have

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a lot of work to do on this topic, so I did really

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love studying it. I love that he suggested that

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as we simplify things, it will really help us

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focus on people over processes. We focus on the

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things that matter most in God's work of salvation

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and exaltation instead of getting caught up in

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managing our ministering. We make ourselves free

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to prioritize the things we can do rather than

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being weighed down by the things we cannot do.

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Out of small and simple things, proceedeth that,

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which is great. Absolutely. He shared the sweetest

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story. I loved it. He talked about his grandmother.

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lovingly called Oma Cislev. She joined the church

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along with her mother in her youth. Later, when

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she married his grandfather, who's not a member

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of the church, and moved to his farm, she was

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too far from a congregation to join regularly.

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So attending church was out of her control. But

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what she did was have the ability to do was pray,

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read the scriptures, and sing songs of Zion.

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Later, she brought children into the world and

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though To some, it may have looked like she was

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raising them outside of the church because there

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was no priesthood in the home and no meetings

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to access ordinances nearby. But what did she

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focus on? She taught them to pray and walk up

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rightly before the Lord. She read her children's

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scripture. She read scriptures to her children.

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and she sang them the songs of Zion, and she

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also prayed with them. So this would not be a

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home -centered church -supported experience,

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but instead of 100 % home -centered experience.

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During World War II, when his grandfather was

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away and enemies were approaching their farm,

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she took her two children and sought refuge where

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they found, and they were found in northern Germany.

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The only thing they had was the clothes on their

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backs, and no one would consider this life easy.

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But what did Oma do? She continued with what

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she had, with what was available to her. She

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prayed with her children every day. She sang

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with them the songs of Zion. She had memorized

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by heart every day. Providing for the basic essentials

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of life, giving food on the table for her children

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was extremely hard. Then at the age of 17, love

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this part, when Elder Siasla's father, a then

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17 year old boy, was going to trade school in

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the city, he walked by a building and saw a small

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sign on the outside that read, the Church of

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Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints in his German

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tongue. He thought, that's interesting. This

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is Mother's Church. So when he came home, he

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told Oma that he had found her church. You can

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imagine how she must have felt after almost 25

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years of no contact with the church. She was

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determined to attend the next Sunday and convinced

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his father to accompany her. This was a 20 mile

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walk one way from the little village where they

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lived, but this did not keep her from attending

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church. So the next Sunday, she got on her bicycle

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with father and rode to church. When the sacrament

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meeting started, the dad sat down in the last

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row, hoping it would be, or his dad sat in the

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last row. So the 17 year old boy at this point

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sat in the last row, hoping it would be over

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soon. This was almost church and not here. What

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he saw was not very encouraging. Only a few older

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women in attendance and two young missionaries

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who effectively ran everything in the meeting.

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But then they started to sing. and they sang

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the songs of Zion that my dad had heard since

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he was a little boy. Come, come you saints, oh

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my father, praise to the man. Hearing this little

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flock sing the songs of Zion he'd known since

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childhood pierced his heart and he immediately

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knew without a doubt that the church was true.

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The first sacrament my grandmother attended after

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25 years was the meeting where my father received

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a personal confirmation of the truthfulness of

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the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. He was baptized

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three weeks later on September 25th, 1955 together

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with my grandfather and my aunt. I love it so

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much. So thinking of Elder Brown's talk, I thought

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this was his sacred grove experience. Seriously,

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yeah. Oma's dedication to the small and simple

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things certainly would have come without lonely

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moments over the decades. Could you imagine being

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not with the... A body of saints. Yeah. She faithfully

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endured, but her determination to keep her covenants

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and also trust in the Lord, notwithstanding her

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struggles, had eternal consequences. There are

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many around the world who focus on the simplicity

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in Christ in their challenging circumstances.

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Perhaps seeing little changes now, but trusting

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that great things will come to pass someday in

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the future. In the words of Elder Jeffrey R.

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Holland, some blessings come soon. Some come

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late and some don't come until heaven, but for

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those who embrace the gospel of Jesus Christ,

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they come. Any final thoughts? Just sweet. I

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love how you said that just the themes of the

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gospel, the principles of the gospel are layered

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and they just continue to be taught in every

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one of these. in every one of these talks of

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conference. Sometimes I wake up like at four

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or something in the morning and I'm like, why

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am I awake? And I lay there this morning, I was

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just thinking, man, I'm really grateful for conference,

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that we get to study it, that they really are

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the words of the prophets, of the latter day

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prophets. And we get to study those words and

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just have them deep in our hearts for when the

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complexity comes, for when the things come. It's

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kind of like we have a - Reservoir. Yeah. And

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something in our pocket of like, you know what?

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I know what the Lord might do with this. And

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especially if we're just having - have some quiet

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time and are listening. I love that. My thoughts

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are, that bounces off some of my thoughts, but

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I was just thinking that the church is growing

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rapidly across the world, across the earth and

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here where it's been established for time and

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we've got these programs and we've got these

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accessory things. That's all lovely. It's all

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things that we can do. but the most important

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thing is the simplicity of the gospel of Jesus

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Christ and when we're teaching the gospel truths

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that we focus on pure and simple doctrine. But

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knowing that our brother and sisters that are

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being gathered in around the world, you know,

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even though there's a multitude of programs and

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processes and ministering opportunities that

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they can. tap into, the most important thing

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is a love of our Savior Jesus Christ. And that

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one sentence, the simple laws and principles

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of the gospel, we'd heard this story about, I

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think it was somebody that's involved with the

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Young Men's Program. Anyway, they were kind of

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going around doing stuff for FSY. And whoever

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the leader was in the area, they're like, you're

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not allowed to talk about the youth programs.

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Because of where they were in the world. Yeah,

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exactly. Not because it was going to be, like,

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dangerous politically, but because the gospel

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was so new and fresh, we needed to focus on what

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we could focus on, like, let's have solid sacrament

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meetings and attendance and scripture reading

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versus, like, all of the things that could be

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happening. Yes. All the programs that are there

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and available for us, I love them. We pick them

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up and we grasp onto them and to the best of

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our abilities, we execute them. But at the end

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of the day, when you're feeling overwhelmed by

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a multitude of things, and you just have that

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conversation with the Lord, I promise He'll say

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like, all of that's good, but the best thing

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that you could be doing, talk with me regularly,

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read my word, follow the prophet, you know, these

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basic covenants. Make your covenants, keep those

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covenants, and it does not require fancy table

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settings and handouts and, you know, just so

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many things that we choose to add on to our plate

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to add more stress to our lives. When it comes

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down to it, it can be as simple as simple. I

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will end with his testimony. Thank you. He said,

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I have learned through my own experience that

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the small and simple things of the gospel and

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faithfully focusing on Christ leads us to true

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joy. bring about mighty miracles and grant us

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confidence that all promised blessings will come

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to pass. This is as true for you as it is true

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for me. Of this I testify in the name of Jesus

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Christ. Amen. Amen. Thanks so much for being

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with us today. We'll catch you next time.
