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Welcome to closer to Christ through general conference

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent general

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conference talks This is Abby and Amy. Let's

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jump into it we're talking about that all may

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be edified. This is by brother Chad H Webb. He's

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the first counselor in the Sunday School general

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presidency. So he starts out picture this, you're

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about to take a very important test. And you're

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told that you can bring one sheet of paper with

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whatever you need to help you. So some people

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furiously scribbled, you know, tiny print every

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bit of information that could possibly be on

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the exam. And then in this top, it illustrates

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a clever student. who said that his tutor could

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stand on the piece of paper. So it would be.

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This would be able to provide insight to any

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question presented. It's such a great backstory

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to discussing the power that we have when we

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allow ourselves to be tutored with the help of

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the Holy Ghost. We see the Holy Ghost working

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with individuals and groups across the world

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in every denomination, but as members of the

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Church of Jesus Christ of Latter -day Saints,

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I think sometimes we might forget how blessed

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we are that we can have constant companionship

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with this member of the Godhead, the perfect

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tutor, the Holy Ghost. Absolutely, Abby. How

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do we prevent the apathy toward one of the sweetest

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gifts that we've been given? If we remember the

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gift of the Holy Ghost and then also show gratitude

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for the experiences that we have with the Holy

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Ghost, we're likely to recognize that we are

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constantly, like you said, Abby, it's a constant

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gift and we're always being blessed by that.

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The Holy Ghost knows all things, testifies of

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truth, and will bring all things to our remembrance.

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I know we all want experiences with God and we

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want to know that He's hearing our pleas, that

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He's invested in the decisions that we're making.

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And we can constantly be talking to Him, but

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sometimes you'll hear people say, you know, I'm

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talking to Him, but I don't know if He hears

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me. I don't know if He's there to answer my prayers.

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Maybe you see that happening in other people's

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lives, but you're not so sure that it's happening

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for yourself. And the reason is because it takes

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effort to hear Him. I agree. And we all know,

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you know, that phrase, our beloved prophet, President

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Russell M Nelson, frequently spoke about the

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importance of hearing him. So just, I mean, as

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you dig into that, it's not that he's not talking,

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it's that it's going to take some effort on our

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part to know how it is that we hear him. Absolutely.

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For each one of us, because it's going to be

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an individual. And a lot of that prophetic advice

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centered around increasing our own spiritual

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capacity to have encounters with the Holy Ghost.

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And it's always there and it's always available

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for us to have this constant companionship. But

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like you said, it takes effort on our part to,

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first of all, recognize it and then also to receive

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that inspiration. Because many times it is happening,

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we just haven't taken the time to stop and even

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recognize. And the more that we do take those

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moments that it does become easier. It's an individual

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process, but when I'm watching like right now

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we happen to be in primary, definitely the songs

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are inviting the spirit. And when our music leader

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takes a moment to point out when she's feeling

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the spirit and she says, do you feel anything?

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Do you feel special? The kids are usually in

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a kind of a quiet enough demeanor that they're

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like, oh, I do feel something different. That

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might be some of their first encounters with

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it. you know, music aside isn't happening, church

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aside isn't happening. It can be in any moment,

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anywhere. They feel a twinge of that, that they

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can say, oh, this is that same, you know, that

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same friend that I felt before about that. Brother

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Webb, as his role is in the Sunday School general

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presidency, directs us to some really helpful

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information. that's provided in the manual teaching

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in the Savior's way. I know Amy and I talked

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about this before, because we just had a primary

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training on it. And so it had nothing to do with

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the general conference talk, but by virtue of

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what was on our mind from that day as we were

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podcasting about another talk, that this came

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up. And so I actually shared the image that he's

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referencing on our Facebook page. I think it's

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so nice to have eyes on it. But really, this

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talk centers around how in our homes and in our

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church callings, we can magnify those if we're

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teaching with the Holy Ghost and basically the

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process of doing what it takes to invite the

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Holy Ghost more fully into our teaching opportunities.

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So if you're a visual person, you'll find it

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helpful to either reference it in the teaching

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in the Savior's Way manual, you can go to our

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Facebook page, Closer to Christ through general

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conference, or if you seem to like, just listening

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to things and picturing it. This is like a Venn

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diagram as we're talking about these points.

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Okay, so the Venn diagram has three main pieces.

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They are invite diligent learning, teach the

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doctrine and focus on Jesus Christ. And he explains

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to this talk that when we do these things effectively,

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the center of this is that we can provide opportunities

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for deeper conversion to Jesus Christ. On the

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outside of this Venn diagram, we need to love

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those we teach and teach with the Holy Ghost.

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So it's a process. I mean, I've thought of it

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a lot as I've been teaching my little primary

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kids, as I've been teaching in my home and...

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you know, when all of the pieces are kind of

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harmonious, you're like, yep, that's gonna sink,

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that's gonna sink a lot deeper. Yeah, just having

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it top of mind. It's very easy to weave it in

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just as long as you like remember what those

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three things are. I appreciated that in our training.

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So let's dig into one of those first ones. It's

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invite diligent learning. So have you ever considered

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the different impact a lesson has when we study

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the material with a prayer in our heart and also

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a focus on those we teach? We often grow our

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faith and understanding. and are prepared at

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that point to share that with the class. We just

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need those participants to show up essentially

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and to listen and then also to tune in to the

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effort that we put into the materials. And also

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when the spirit is there. Last week, Abby, you

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were gone last week and the lesson that I gave,

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the kids wanted to share a lot. You know how

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at the beginning we have them share? Sometimes

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we have girls who love to chat and then we have

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boys who don't say so much. And this one student

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in particular raised his hand twice and shared

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something. And he shared something that was pretty

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like close to his heart about one of his animals

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dying and how his animal had like protected the

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family and all the animals from a pack of four

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coyotes. and how their animal, how their dog

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came back and was bloody and passed away and

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that's why they were getting a new dog. Anyway,

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when I heard that my heart just like I kind of

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got tears in my eyes just because he was sharing

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something so real, you know, and at the end of

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it. I was able to bear testimony to all the kids.

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Because they'd shared something from the heart,

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each one of them that week, I was able to bear

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testimony and say, you know, Jesus knows you.

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He sees you. He's excited for you to go get this

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new dog that you're getting and he sees your

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broken heart over the other one. You know, just

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each one of them as we, so that's one thing I

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like is for us to invite them to share things.

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Because when they do do that, we know more of

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what to say to be more specific and really fine

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tune that teaching and let them know that Christ

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also sees them. Heavenly Father also sees them.

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So now we're going to consider another scenario,

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a more effective one. We do, we put our time

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into preparation for ourselves in that same way.

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And this time we think of a question to share

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with the learners in advance of the lesson and

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encourage them to come with any question that

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they thought on their own study and learning.

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And of course, this is age appropriate, right?

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Sometimes kids aren't going to, they're going

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to have things like you know, on a lower level,

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or sorry, a more basic level. The lesson plan

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is gospel -based, meaning it's centered in true

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doctrine, which is a point we will focus on in

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a little bit. But those questions your diligent

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learners have been considering for a week or

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more influence the direction of this discussion.

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So you're less concerned with covering every

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single thing, right? Like, oh, we didn't get

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to this or that. Becoming the facilitator of

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everything that these diligent learners have

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brought to discuss. Some in the group may be

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having an experience with the spirit, but if

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you are feeling it, invite them to recognize

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that the things coming to their own hearts and

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mind is actually personal revelation. Then when

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we finish a lesson, we don't really consider

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it because we hit each, you know, maybe a success

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if we hit each and every bullet point that we

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planned out in advance because we skipped other

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comments and things like that. It's pretty much

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the essence of the lesson that we gave. And when

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we have connection with our those that we're

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teaching, it is always a better outcome. Our

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success as a teacher actually comes from seeing

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that the learners are sharing and developing

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habits of life lifelong discipleship. That would

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be the mark of a great teacher. I love just thinking

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about the scenario of the two different types

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of teachers. I know that the heart's in the right

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place. And I know that the teacher that comes

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with the eight by 10 and the bullet points and

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really concerned about covering everything has

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a great heart at the core of it. They wouldn't

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have put the time and preparation into that lesson

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if they didn't love these learners. Right. I

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agree. Kids these days have so much to share

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and we have so much to be blessed by when it's

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a more collaborative effort. Yes, you can tell

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when kids are trying to like sidetrack you and

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like purposefully steer you away from the lesson

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material, but When they're sharing from the heart,

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it's different like who cares where the lesson

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goes to what it has nothing to do with the lesson

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I mean, that's the great part about the home

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centered gospel the church supported. It's like

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We're hopeful that the lesson material is already

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there in the heart than the piece that they've

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come to church to share or the thing that sparks

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for them to share. You can't predict what that's

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going to be. And you can't hope that it's exactly

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a specific answer so that it can just flow right

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in with your lesson the way that you've planned

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it out. Right. And if it's in your heart, then

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you'll be able to kind of take that detour and

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still make it totally work. Because everything

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can be turned back to Jesus Christ, right? So

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much catching up today because we've had like

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six weeks of like primary program practice or

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we had a general conference, we had state conference,

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Amy was gone one week, I was gone one week. Anyway,

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scenario, like just kind of a, just multitude.

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And then it was supposed to be fifth Sunday,

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which it's hit and miss whether we're teaching

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or not, but we ended up teaching. So I think

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they had a lot of energy that they wanted to

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share. And I was like, okay, I knew that was

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going to be the case. So we just came off singing

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a very powerful song on choose him again. And

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when it's a fifth Sunday in primary, we're supposed

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to focus on covenant path, appendix B or whatever,

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not just the lesson material. So I'm like, okay.

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We've, we were coming off this high note with

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this song. So we're going to hit the lesson first

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when typically Amy and I, we get them opened

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up and sharing and participating by letting us

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know whatever's on their mind from the week.

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Not necessarily church related. So I was like,

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I'd prepared this for the podcast, you know,

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earlier in the week and it kind of on my mind.

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And I was like, well, if we can just. go into

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the lesson, then we can know what kind of time

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we have at the end to save. So when they're just

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going on story after story, they're like, one

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of our guys is like, church is over. I'm like,

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exactly. So we can wrap it up. Like there's an

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obvious end to their stories. They all matter

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to us, but like, we know that we got the meat

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of the gospel, like right there in the beginning,

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playing off of the great lessons that they're

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learning from the music. And that just happens

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to be for our young primary class right now.

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Seasons are different. Right. I know for a fact,

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one of the absolute best ways to learn is by

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sharing what we have studied. So when I prepare

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a lesson, oftentimes the impressions that I'm

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getting are for me to be tutored. And if I'm

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like, oh, I just want everybody to feel that

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and come to that conclusion, that's not really

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the point of it. Stick to the lesson material

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because you know that you're in true doctrine

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if you're in the material that they've provided

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for you, but allow the spirit to decide what

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the learner is going to hear and experience.

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Absolutely. With usually a good question in advance

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is the best way to get to the end goal. Yeah.

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When we're in the lesson and we choose to share

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something, Brother Webb shared this, it's true

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of all things. When we share in a lesson, we're

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exhibiting our agency. basically saying we want

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to be a participant, we're signaling to the Holy

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Ghost that we're willing to expand our capacity.

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Which, when we go back to that first part on

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hearing Him, a lot of that is growing our capacity

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to feel the Spirit and hear the Spirit. It's

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always there. How much abundance can we take

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in? When we act, we invite more. So if you're

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not feeling it, you're not feeling inspired by

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lessons, even if you don't want to, start with

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participating. Say something. And then it becomes

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more like family father wants something said

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from the pulpit like I hate bearing my testimony

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I don't really like to plan that in advance,

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but I've When I know that it's like time to bear

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my testimony I'll be like, hey if there's something

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you want me to share on the pulpit like impressed

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me to do so. And I've said that prayer and been

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just content to sit and listen to the testimonies

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that are born. A lot of times things were on

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my mind, comes out of the mouth of another speaker

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and I'm like, that's so great. They said it,

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what was on my heart. But sometimes I'll say,

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you know, be your mouthpiece, tell me, you know,

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impressed with me, what you want me to share.

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And then your heart's beating like it's going

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to like just... pop out of your chest and it

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propels you up to the stand. You're like, what

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am I doing up here? What am I going to say? And

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you open your mouth and you share whatever you're

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going to share and you feel that relief. Like

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I shared whatever I needed to. Sometimes that's

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for me. Sometimes, you know, from a comment after

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like, thank you for sharing that really touched

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me or sparks the next testimony, whatever the

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case may be. Like just pairing yourself with

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the Holy Ghost in those scenarios, I've seen

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huge growth to my own testimony in that way.

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President Nelson invited us, like I said, to

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do this in this way, to hear him. And so I love

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this from the talk Elder Webb shared. As in all

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things, Jesus Christ is the perfect example.

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He has invited each of us to be diligent learners

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and to take charge of our own testimonies. He

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invited his disciples to prepare to learn, to

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share what they were learning, and to act in

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faith. He prayed for them, saw their divine potential,

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listened to them, and helped them know they were

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loved and needed. Um, when you see these things

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in others that you're teaching, I just want to

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agree with Amy here. Don't hesitate to share

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with them these things that you're seeing from

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them, these qualities, these characteristics.

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Be so appreciative of the comments that they're

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saying. Sometimes we don't articulate the things

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we want to say the best, but if we're encouraged

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to participate and to share, even if we flub

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it up, then we're going to do it more and we're

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going to have more opportunities and encounters

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with the spirit. He also said, don't, I don't

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know if I said this already, but he said, words

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of encouragement, oh, this is good, words of

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encouragement from a trusted teacher could be

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just the spark that makes a huge change in another's

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life. So, I mean, he had mentioned this teacher

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that he had that said something about him being

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a good writer. and basically like with more focused

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effort, you could be really good at writing.

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It's like I never even thought of it that way.

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So she said something, it could have gone in

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one ear and out the other, but apparently he

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really took it to heart and he really invested

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in his education at that point in the writing

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aspect. Reading through this talk, for instance.

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It's well written. Very well written. So, I mean,

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he took a document that we have, I don't know

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if he was participated in helping form that document.

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He's been in church education forever, but I'm

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not sure how far back that goes, but he put into

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beautiful words something, my visual brain does

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need to see the document, but knowing the document

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and then hearing the words, I'm like, oh, he

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made that very obvious and clear what the purpose

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is. When we open our mouths to teach, if we want

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to do it with the spirit, here's the way to do

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it. Any other thoughts on this piece of the diagram?

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No, I feel like we've covered it. Or I have.

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Let's move on to another essential part of the

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equation, and that is to teach the doctrine.

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We could ask ourselves a question. Is my gospel

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study an instruction rooted in the Word of God?

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There's enough true doctrine that we can study

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that we don't need to sensationalize or speculate

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on what the Lord has not revealed. From the talk,

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he says, focus on essential and eternal gospel

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principles, which allows the spirit to testify

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of truth. Again, we follow the example of the

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Savior. He said, my doctrine is not mine, but

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he that sent me. I know people get fixed on like

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a point of doctrine that they're unsettled with.

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They spend more time looking at that. There's

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a lot of question marks, too. You know, certainly

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there's an opportunity to study up on that and

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read as much as we do know, truth revealed, on

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that difficult thing. But I know that it's always

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a good idea to focus our efforts on, like, root

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ourselves on the basic principles and premise

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of the gospel. Because a lot of the things that

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we get uncertain on is because of the way that

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man has interpreted that thing. Right. Is that

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too vague? I don't want to stir up any drama,

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like what people are struggling with, because

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I want to say it's very valid if you struggle

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with the concept in the gospel, you should have

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that struggle. That should be something that

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you feel comfortable enough that you have the

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opportunity to wrestle with. But a lot of the

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times the way to resolve that issue is to tenfold

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center yourself on the truth that you do know.

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And for me to go to God rather than someone else,

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right? Right. So when you want answers to those

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secondary things, those pieces and parts of the

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gospel that are unsettling, why is it fair that

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you're going to a source that has no intention

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of pointing you back to Jesus Christ? They're

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usually trying to point you to them, whatever

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they want you to follow in their world. So our

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source material is very important to consider

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when we have a desire to focus on true doctrine.

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So where do we find this? We find it in the scriptures.

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We find it in teachings of modern prophets through

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general conference. And also, studying the scriptures

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individually and his family's attending church

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each week gives us multiple options to hear his

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doctrine and also to hear him. Never before in

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history of the world have we had such an incredible

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opportunity to access true doctrine. And at the

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same time, it has never been easier to find false

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doctrine. When we feast upon the word of God

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with consistent effort, we can learn to understand

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and also love the scriptures and trust that they

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have the answers to the questions of our soul.

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When we do these things, it's easier to spot

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false teachings through the same gift of the

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Holy Ghost. So yeah, Abby, like you were saying,

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to put more weight on the things that you learn,

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so each of us individually, from the scriptures

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and modern prophets through the Holy Ghost, than

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that of false teachings that others would have

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you believe from maybe their study, That's just

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far less reliable material than actually going

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to the scriptures and the source. So let's talk

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about the final piece of the equation. And this

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last one is to focus on Jesus Christ. It was

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a perfect timing in his talk when he shared.

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It's fun. I think it's fun that this talk landed

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in December, as a lot of people around the world

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are more focused on Jesus Christ at this time.

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I know we're trying to make Easter as, you know,

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Christ -centered is Christmas, but universally,

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I think people know Christmas triumphs and people

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are a little kinder, a little bit more thoughtful,

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a little bit more Christ -centered for sure.

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He says this, we can speak more often and more

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reverently of Him and seek more opportunities

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to express testimony, gratitude and love for

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Him. Whatever the setting is, we remember Him.

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We can have His Spirit to be with us. So in our

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lessons, how easily could we just insert a simple

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question like, Can you think of a time when Jesus

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Christ exemplified this principle? Yeah. In the

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material we are studying, we can focus on His

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titles, which is one of my personal favorite

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things to do. I thought of you when I read that.

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His roles, His attributes, seeking not only to

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learn what He has done, but also better understand

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who He is, if we want to be like Him. Yeah, for

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sure. And I found it helpful that Elder Webb

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gave a specific example. What is it, Brother

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Webb? Brother. Okay. Brother Webb gave a specific

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example of what this looks like. So he said,

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for example, when studying the principle of repentance,

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it's important to understand how to repent. But

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it's also essential to remember what Jesus Christ

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has done to make repentance possible and to understand

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what repentance teaches us about Him, about His

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true nature and His characteristics. What does

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our opportunity to repent say about His love,

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His patience and mercy, His belief in our divine

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potential, his willingness to atone for our sins,

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and the joy he finds in forgiving. That is awesome.

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I like that because it also, you know, sometimes

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when you think about repentance, like everything

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we learn line upon line, you know, and I think

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as a kid, you know, learning the lesson of like

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the things that you need to do to repent. Sometimes

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you get step one, step two, step one, step two.

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And I love that he says, you know, think about

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the true nature of Jesus Christ, why he does

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it, the joy he finds in forgiving. I mean, that

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just makes it much more of a personal relationship

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with each one of us and our savior. Agreed. I'm

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just thinking like there are at least three,

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maybe four chunks that I'd like direct quote

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him. So I'm just thinking back. He, it's not

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wrong, he is an excellent writer. I'm like, I

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can't say that any better than he's saying. So

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I'm like, direct quote from the talk here. Another

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awesome example that he pointed out. Okay, well

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first, he pointed out titles of Jesus Christ.

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So here are some names that he specifically mentioned

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in this talk. Lamb of God, Redeemer and Physician.

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So he says, when we consider these names, maybe

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it will help us to see that repentance is his

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invitation to cleanse, change and heal us. Cleanse,

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change, redeem and heal physician. Like, could

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you write that better? No, that's why we're just

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gonna speak it right exactly like he said it.

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Then, when he was talking about attributes of

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Jesus Christ, I also love this example, so I'm

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going to share it. He said, when we're reading

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about Nephi building a boat, we might focus only

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on Nephi. Focusing on the Savior can help us

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see that this record was not preserved to teach

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about how great Nephi was, but to show us the

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greatness of God, that he gives us strength to

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keep his commandments, delivers us in time of

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need, and Nephi. Nephi points to God, we should

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be looking for God in those stories. Absolutely.

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We can think Nephi is great, but that wasn't

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his intention either. So, love it when he said

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that. I do want to add my testimony. When we

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become engaged in considering the names of Christ

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and attributes of Christ, it'll become second

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nature to us and we will see him in everything.

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And if we will focus on Jesus Christ, teach his

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doctrine and learn diligently and also invite

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diligent learning through the Holy Ghost. It

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deepens our faith in Jesus Christ. It helps us

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to become more like him. And that really is the

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aim of all of our gospel teaching. When I got,

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again, Abby was gone last week, but I got home

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from church and I just had, my heart was so full

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after this lesson. I'd really thought about the

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kids. There was connection and... I just wrote

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a quick text to our Sunday School president who

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just put that together. Short and sweet teacher

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training. That's what I was gonna say. It was

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impactful. For whatever reason, we only had 20

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minutes. Yeah, and it was perfect. I think it

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was just the duration of singing time. And so

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he gets in, he's like, this is gonna be fast,

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but this is, so you messaged him. I just messaged

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him and I said, thanks for doing that because

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I have felt a difference. I said, I feel a deeper

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love of Jesus Christ and I feel a deeper love

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for each one of our little students. I love them.

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We're coming to the end of the year. Don't say

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it. I know, right? They're just so sweet and

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they have just such pure hearts. And I really

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feel like it was because we have been as a team

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teachers, we've been putting this into practice

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since he just brought that up and reminded us

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about it. And I just feel like this is another

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reminder. And so I'm bearing my testimony that

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it has made a difference just keeping it top

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of mind. And it has really brought a lot of joy

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to my life. I agree. Follow up, because I didn't

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catch the story of our little guy losing his

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dog, but he did share this week when I was there

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that they do have a new puppy. And no name yet,

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but that makes it kind of extra tender that he

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brought that up, that he knew that the class

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is invested enough in his story that he got to

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share like, hey, we got a new puppy. So I'm just

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kind of thinking when we create an atmosphere

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for learning and we're doing these things in

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the right way, what we can also see, we love

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the student, we love the kids that we're teaching

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that encompasses what we're doing, but I think

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they love each other. we know that they love

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each other. They notice when one of them is gone,

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curious about what they're up to, glad to see

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when they come back, and you teach activity days

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too, so I'm sure you're seeing them outside of

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just that Sunday gathering, them interacting

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with each other and these other things, and that's

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kind of the fun part of the gospel, you get together.

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You could you can have spiritual experiences

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you can have opportunities with the Holy Ghost

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even in the fun times when there's that camaraderie

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and that love is there that's been fostered.

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So absolutely It's been a fun class. It's kind

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of sad to think about them going moving on up

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But we still get them in primary to keep an eye

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on and we still watching Any other thoughts to

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share that was it I've loved this talk. I've

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loved reviewing it. I love sharing it. And hopefully

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we're reaching the ears of people that are teaching

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in their homes and teaching in, in. Immigrative

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callings, young women's, Relief Society Primary,

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Elders Quorum, wherever you're teaching. And

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maybe you're already just knocking this out of

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the park. And this is, this is your subscription

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for a perfect lesson. And, you know, maybe, maybe

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you've heard something today in reviewing Elder

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Webb's talk that your brother Webb. Brother Webb's

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talk that you think, hey, that's the tweak that

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he wants me to make. That's what's going to make

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these lessons a little bit more impactful, powerful,

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and help deepen people's conversion to Jesus

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Christ, the ultimate goal of our teaching. I'm

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going to close with his testimony. He says, I'm

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grateful for the teachers in my life who help

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us to know and follow Jesus Christ. I'm grateful

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for the Holy Ghost, the perfect tutor. It is

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through the Holy Ghost that I know that Heavenly

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Father loves us and has a perfect plan for us,

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that Jesus is the Christ, the Savior and Redeemer

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of the world, and that his gospel and church

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have been restored. I gratefully testify of these

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things in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
