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Welcome to closer to Christ through general conference

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent general

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conference talks. This is Abby and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Today we're going to talk about

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Know Who You Really Are. This is by Elder Brick

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the Iyer of the Seventy. And he starts his talk

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out with a story from his daughter's mission.

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He says, As I was looking for the perfect verse,

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I thought, what am I doing? This isn't what Christ

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would do. This is not a problem that I can solve,

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but this is a literal daughter of God who needs

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my help. So she says, I closed my scriptures,

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knelt beside her and held her while we cried

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together until she was ready to stand up and

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face this trial. It's pretty wise for someone

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who's that age to a missionary to realize, hey,

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I'm not anyone's savior. You know, I can help

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them. I can lead them to Christ, but I don't

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need to take his place. Powerful lesson. I agree,

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a powerful lesson for all of us to learn for

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her particularly at such a young age as a missionary.

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And we can all have answers to worldly problems

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that come for someone else when we're at the

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outside looking at it. But I think it was special

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that the thought that distilled into her mind

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was just to fall to her knees and be there and

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support that person, this young sister that was

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going through her trial. Because sometimes the

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most important thing we can give somebody is

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our presence, our time, our willingness to mourn

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with them until they are then able to gather

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their emotions and kind of look at the problem

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and be ready to face it. Sometimes, they just

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need some time to process what it's going to

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take to overcome those things. I also love that

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when his daughter turned to the scriptures, that

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the references she pointed out were not the ones

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that she hoped would solve the problems this

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young woman was facing directly. But instead,

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she's just trying to point this young sister

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towards the knowledge that she is divine worth.

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She's a beloved. We're all beloved sons or daughters

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of God and that God fills the perfect compassion

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for us when we suffer and is ready to assist

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us when we kind of stand back up. We make the

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choice to carry on even though it's hard. Knowing

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this truth is in our very core is the answer

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to a lot of life's problems, maybe all of life's

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problems. Yes, they can be very serious problems,

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but knowing that we're not alone in them, and

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that there's going to be some growth and some

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moments to walk with God in those trials. It's

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great to learn that, like to your core. Totally.

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and then carry that with you when when those

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times hit because they're going to certainly

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hit for all of us. Absolutely, they are. And

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you know, it makes sense that our missionaries

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throughout the world are encouraged to teach

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that God is our loving Heavenly Father. I know

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that President Nelson said, you know, when you

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understand who you are, it affects every other

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decision. So like you were saying, if you understand

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that you that everything else you learn in your

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gospel study points back to that love. It also

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builds on that love and it helps us understand

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why we're here and who we can rely on when things

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are challenging. And like you said, they come,

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right? They're going to come. So it's all of

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that is part of the great plan. I like this quote,

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Amy. When you know and understand how completely

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you were loved as a child of God, it changes

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everything. It changes the way you feel about

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yourself when you make mistakes. He actually

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knew I would make mistakes and made it possible

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to be forgiven. And it changes how you feel when

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difficult things happen, meaning he knew life

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would be difficult sometimes, but through the

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atonement actually made it possible to feel in

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those difficult period of time that you're still

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loved. It changes our view of God's commandments,

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meaning they don't look like punishments anymore.

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They don't look like handcuffs, but it's just

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a clear map to enjoying the most freedom. Uh,

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and positive consequences that are attached to

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obedience, sometimes more long -term, you know,

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sometimes like, well, I did this thing. Why am

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I not being blessed? There's eternal benefits

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to those things. If he promised you that there's

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going to be blessings for following his commandments,

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whether you see them in the moment or not, they're

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happening for sure. And if everything was transactional

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like that, it's not quite, you don't learn as

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well like that. It's not like in your bones.

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Yeah. Cause the same is true. Sometimes you do

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things that are contrary to the commandments

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and you don't immediately get the punishment

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from it. Sometimes those are way more long -term

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and coming. Then you look back on all the years,

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you're like, Oh, it was that those micro decisions

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that led me to where I am now that you fall to

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your absolute bottom worse than have to dig back

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from it. But yeah, I love that. Just a reminder,

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it's not transactional. Did I say this? It changes

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your view of others. Oh, I didn't say this because

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I love this part. So good. Yes. It changes your

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view of others and your capacity to make a difference.

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Maybe my favorite part of the quote, because

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if you recognize the others or children of God

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and their individuals with divine worth too,

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then you can try to use that gift to see others

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with those same eyes. It changes the world, it

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changes the way that we interact with other people.

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When our natural man inclination is to maybe

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not feel that way sometimes, especially with

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bad, you know, bad, countering bad behavior from

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them. Sometimes just reminding yourself they're

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a child of God too, try to give them benefit

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of the doubt that maybe something difficult is

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going on in their life or whatever. Very good,

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Abby. One of the best places to learn this from

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scripture is as God talks with Moses and also

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explains this, Moses, thou art my son, and that

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Moses was in this similitude of his only begotten.

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So we know that when Moses understood this, he

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knew his purpose and role and that he also had

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important things to accomplish. It makes me think

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about the most clear communication I've had with

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God through my patriarchal blessing when I read

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through that with a firm understanding that I'm

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a daughter of God and that all of their blessings

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seem completely plausible. I'm excited to see

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what I can accomplish with God at that point.

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I think most, most patriarchal blessings in those

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opening paragraphs, that's the, that's the key

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feature that you want to know of your divine

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heritage. If you don't have that solidified in

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your mind, I think everything else you read,

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you're kind of like, maybe, maybe I'm worthy

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of that. Maybe that'll come to me. But if you

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know, if you know that first statement to be

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true, you know, I am a beloved daughter of God

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or son. However, people's read everything else

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seems totally factual. And he wants to bless

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me with these things because I am so precious

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and dear to him. Yeah, I love that. Isn't it

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just like the adversary to come into the story

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of Moses and immediately after this awesome encounter

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with God, try to stamp his own label on us, Moses,

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son of man. We are children of God and have his

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character running through us. We could do anything.

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Satan can only try to pick at weaknesses and

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attack us and try to label us with those weaknesses.

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We get to choose if we're gonna let those stick

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or not. Like that cute story with the Wimix.

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You are special. That's a good little story.

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Love it so much. The stars and dots. And also

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how amazing would it be if we all could be so

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prepared for these predictable attacks by Satan

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that we could respond just like Moses did. Who

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art thou? For behold, I'm a son of God. I love

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that. I love the power. Yes, I love the power

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and I love the contrast. Like it was so strong

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because it was right after there. He knew his

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worth and he wasn't broken by a false label.

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This was a standout line from the talk. He said

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this, we must seek validation vertically, not

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horizontally. One of my favorites. Love that.

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Spend a minute letting that sink in. When others

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try to put labels on us, are we quick to agree

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and be taken over by our fears or have we received

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validation vertically and know for ourselves

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that we are a child of God? This is one thing

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I stress with my kids is to say, you know, all

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that matters is what God thinks of you. And as

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long as you're good with him, then it doesn't

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matter whether someone be saying, you're fantastic

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and better than you are or above other things

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or whether they're saying you're low as the ground,

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you know what I mean? Whatever it is. Whatever

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labels and opinions they have, it's the validation

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that we should be seeking as gods. I love that.

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President Russell M. Nelson affirmed vertical,

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this truth about this vertical relationship that

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he hopes we all know. He said, can we each say,

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I'm a child of God, child of the covenant, a

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child, a disciple of Jesus Christ. He promised,

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as you embrace these truths, our heavenly father

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will help you reach your ultimate goal of living

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eternally in his holy presence. So, key pieces

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of the reason why we came here. It's like, I

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don't know, our stake president made some comment.

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It was like, you know, what's the purpose of

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this life on earth? And people will be like,

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you know, so that we can come here and that we

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can go back and live with him. He's like, well,

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he just wanted us to live with him. He would

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have just kept us there. We were living with

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him then. We wouldn't have to do all this stuff

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here. We would just be living with him also,

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again, but the gist of it, to come to grow, to

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learn our true nature and our identity, our true

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potential, and then return back to him. People

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don't like the idea of being co -equal with him,

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but any parent would be what you... Let me raise

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you up, child. Follow me, watch my example, but

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then try to be a little not as awesome as I am.

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I never heard a good parent that acted like that,

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right? So by virtue of how we know real parent

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-child relationships should work, he's just as

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excited when we learn those things that make

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us more like our savior. God is watching that

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gratefully. Thank you for following the example

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of your big brother. And that's why I picked

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him for you. Seriously. It truly is amazing every

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time I think of the plan. So every Sabbath day,

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saints around the world gather to partake of

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the emblems of the sacrament. And in that prayer,

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we get to affirm that we are his children when

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he asks. to be referenced in this way, God the

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Eternal Father. So if He is our Father, our Eternal

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Father, can there be any doubt that His greatest

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desire, like you were saying, Abby, is to have

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us, His children, return back to His presence

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with all the growth we can achieve because of

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this life experience? That line hit me quite

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hard in a good way, like when I'm really zeroed

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in and really paying attention, preparing for

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the sacrament and letting it be. bigger experience

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than just eating a little bit of bread and water,

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really Christ -centered and focused on Him. That's

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awesome. That's what we need to be. I love that

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that prayer was given to us by revelation. It's

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documented how we're going to say it. He could

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have chosen any title. Oh, great, magnificent,

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wonderful one. All -powerful, supreme, great

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being. He asked to be referenced as God, our

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eternal Father, as we participate in this most

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important prayer of the week. Yeah. Love it.

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That's really good, Abby. Elder Patrick Heron.

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Love that guy. Taught. Our Father's beautiful

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plan, even his fabulous plan. I love it when

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he said it, you know, those months ago. And then

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when people re -quote him, we get to talk about

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the fabulous plan. Is designed to bring you home,

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not to keep you out. God is in relentless pursuit

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of you. That is so comforting to hear. Elder

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Eyring promised us that our lives will fundamentally

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change if we better understand who we really

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are. How can we come to know these fundamental

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truths either more deeply or for the first time?

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He gives us two challenges to deepen our understanding

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of this powerful truth. The first one being prayer

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and then an understanding that Jesus is the Christ.

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Do you want to tackle the first one, Amy, like

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your insights on prayer? Sure. So, when we come

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to know more deeply that we're children of God

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by making time each day to truly be with Him,

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like not just saying our prayers, but really

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be with Him, be in His presence. So when we prepare

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our hearts and our minds through pondering, gratitude

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and quiet reflection, then we open ourselves

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to real communication with our Heavenly Father.

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And I do feel like gratitude is a huge component

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of that. Gratitude does invite revelation. Gratitude

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invites more blessing. It's a way that we get

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to really acknowledge His hand in our lives.

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Finding a private still place to pray helps us

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feel the Spirit and also hear His voice. And

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then consistent, sincere prayer combined with

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daily study of the Book of Mormon and temple

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worship invites revelation and strengthens our

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awareness of His love. As we pray more often

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and with greater intent, God helps us feel and

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remember that we are truly His beloved children.

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Maybe a question we could ask ourselves is, what

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do my prayers currently look like? And in an

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effort to go closer in my relationship with God,

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might those conversations look a little bit different

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than they are right now? How could they change?

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How could they be better? How could they also

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sometimes, Abby, I feel like maybe this is just

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my life. But sometimes I get thrown into a season

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that I didn't see coming. And all of a sudden,

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I'm like, oh, things are different. Like, like,

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let's say, for example, all of a sudden, your

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kids are growing up and one's a teenager. Now,

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teenage years are different than the younger

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years, you know, and for someone who has, you

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know, married children and grandkids and just

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things like that. Or when you're a new parent.

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But anyways, we find ourselves in new seasons.

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And I feel like new seasons require different,

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a different set of skills. And so prayer is so

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important for that to recognize, Heavenly Father,

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I'm in a different season. What do I need for

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this? What would, what are the tools I need?

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I love that. That's, that's super powerful. Assess

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what season you're in in your life. Do you feel

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disconnected from him? Is it A, because you're

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not making time to spend together or you're making

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time, but it's very check the box time and you

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move on to other things and don't give any time

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to you know, hear the other side of that conversation

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and the things that he wants to impress you with.

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Mine don't come immediately. Like I always say

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the things that are heaviest on my heart, you

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know, if I, if I have that conversation, my night

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prayers to him, I often wake up in the morning,

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like it's very quiet hours of the morning because

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we're in that stage of our life where when the

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kids are awake, it gets awfully loud. So it's

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busy. Yeah. That's where he can find me in the

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quietest moments. I would say when your life

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gets awfully busy with running kids to the myriad

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of chores and sports and activities, your time

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might be, you know, the 45 minutes that you're

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waiting for that activity to end. That could

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be your scripture time and the things on your

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heart. Maybe your best communication is in those

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quiet, peaceful moments in the temple. Can you

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get these answers amidst the chaos and crazy,

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you know, crazy life going about you? Absolutely.

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He can reach you anywhere that you are. But,

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you know, that's for everybody to decide. For

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sure. Where they're at and how they're feeling

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about their conversations and communication with

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them. Yes. And what can we do to change that

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if we need a little change? Okay, I think we're

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ready for the second part that he suggested.

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Sounds good. Which was coming to know and recognize

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Jesus in a personal role in our lives as our

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Saviour and Redeemer. really emphasizing that

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word. Heavenly Father's great expression of love

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was sending His Son to help us return home through

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experiences that remind us of His mercy and power

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to forgive. We learn that Christ's atonement

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is not just for others. It is deeply personal.

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He knows and saves each of us individually, and

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only through Him can we return to our Heavenly

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Father. I'll say, it was in this part of the

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talk, he was talking about a minor change to

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the temple recommend questions, and it was like,

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do you believe that Jesus uh, is like savior

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and redeemer, something to that effect. And,

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and it's specifically, do you believe him to

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be your savior and redeemer? Very cool. Cause

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you could easily not really feel that worry in

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this about yourself and answer that truthfully

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and say, yes, I did think that he is people's

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savior, but people sometimes are so hard on themselves.

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They want the amazing things that the atonement

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of Jesus Christ can do to be for everybody but

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them. They put up a barrier, they put up a block,

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they want to be free of the things the birds

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are carrying around, but they just don't see

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the possibility, even when they can see it possible

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for everybody else. So interesting how we are

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as people, right? Before we close with this testimony,

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I would like to remind all of our listeners that

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if you want to continue this conversation, We

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created a Facebook page conference that's about

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general conference and we would love your thoughts

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on this talk. So we're going to provide a prompt

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as though we were in a Sunday school lesson,

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let's say, and we'll encourage each of you to

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make this space your own and ask your own questions

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or share, show your own thoughts. Um, years ago,

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we were really blessed by a come follow me study

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group and got together with some women that like

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strengthen deepened our understanding of, of,

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of come follow me topics. We know it's going

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to take some time to grow and build, but we'll

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get some comments on YouTube. It's really the

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only way that we have to communicate with our

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listeners and they share some thoughts or some

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insights for us. And I would love more people

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to be able to just engage and interact with those

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comments, especially if you're like us and serving

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in the primary or if you have a young woman's

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calling and you're not getting to interact and

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on the same token, men that are in their different

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callings and responsibilities. sometimes it's

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nice to have your thoughts on it and just point

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out something that you've thought of as you're

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listening to us. When I listen back to these

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podcasts, sometimes I think of completely different

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things. Same. I'm like, whatever the spirit needs

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to impress upon me. It's not what we're saying

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in this moment. It's what the spirit wants to

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teach us because we're in the general conference

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talks. And so we know it's going to take some

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time to grow and to build that. we know that

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it's going to have to require us to just mention

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kind of every episode, hey, if you want to carry

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on the conversation, we're hoping that you, you

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know, you're all welcome to generate a prompt

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or we'll try to provide something that's insightful

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from the talk and then whatever comments play

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off of that. And it could take some real time

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to build that. Now's the time to start. So it's

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by the same title, Closer to Christ the General

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Conference. I might try to put the link in the

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notes section if you're listening on a regular

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platform. Thank you for reminding everybody of

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that. I kind of failed to do that in the last

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two talks and we record it in such a way that

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I'm like, well, we'll have to fix that mistake

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now. Join us on Facebook. I'll close with this

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testimony. He said, let us seek Him. Let us study

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His divine relationship with the Father and with

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each of us. Let us experience the song of redeeming

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love that comes personally to each of us through

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our Redeemer as we repent, as we come to know

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Him who is mighty to save. We will come to understand

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that we as children of God are His joy. His most

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important focus and we are indeed each worth

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saving. I testify that we have a loving Heavenly

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Father and we come to know His eternal truth

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through mighty prayer, personal revelation and

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coming unto Jesus Christ. We can now and always

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boldly proclaim, I am a child of God. We say

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this in the name of Jesus Christ, amen. Amen,

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Abby. That was a great one. We'll catch you all

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next time.
