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Welcome to closer to Christ through general conference

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where two friends who love Jesus share our own

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approach to studying the most recent general

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conference talks. This is Abby and Amy. Let's

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jump into it. Today's talk is The Lord Looketh

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on the Heart by Elder Ronald M. Barcellos of

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the 70. This 70 is from Brazil. He married his

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wife Karen in 1999 and he was sustained as a

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70 in April of 2025. So he's brand new for us.

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When looking for the next king, Samuel had...

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One in mind, and the Saviour warned Samuel, Look

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not on his countenance, or on the height of his

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stature, because I have refused him. For the

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Lord seeth not as man seeth. For man looketh

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on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh

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on the heart. David was chosen. While David may

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not have been physically the strongest or most

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skilled of his brothers, his heart was strong

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in the sight of God. Thanks, Abby. Elder Barcellos

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states, the story teaches us that all God needs

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to accomplish his purposes and to help us become

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who he wants us to become is for each of us to

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turn our hearts fully to him. I have seen this

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over and over in my life. I've said this before.

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I wasn't blessed with a lot of practical spiritual

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gifts and yet... I've been called to various

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callings, much to my surprise, and probably those

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people around me. But if we only look at the

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real qualifier to be on an errand for God or

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to be called of God, it's for each of us to turn

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our hearts fully to Him. Then He can work a miracle

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through us. And to be honest, He works miracles

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on us as individuals as well, because our very

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nature's changed. as we partner with God and

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allow the atonement of Christ to strengthen our

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weakness. A line from a recent priesthood blessing

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comes to my mind as I was reviewing it. It was

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something that has brought clarity to my heart

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each time I read it. The Lord has no doubt in

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his mind that with your strengths and his perfect

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strengths making up for your weaknesses, you'll

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be able to get through these challenges. For

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me, this promise is as valid for me as it is

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for anyone who's listening to this right now.

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In my mind, I see this as a perfect balance.

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Christ's perfect strengths balance out each of

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our weaknesses. When we view our own life and

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challenges, especially through this lens, we

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are better able to see the balance that Jesus

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Christ brings to our life. And also, I think

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this is the biggest part, we remember where our

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trust is and who we lean on in times where our

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weaknesses feel very real. It's super important

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to recognize them, know that they're a weakness,

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so that we can recognize when we've allowed His

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strength to come up. For sure. And what strengths

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to ask for to balance it out. The Savior taught

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that if our hearts are fully tuned to Him, because

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of His atoning sacrifice, we can be blessed with

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the strength and spiritual gifts we need to overcome

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our mortal challenges, resist temptation, receive

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direction and understanding, and feel joy and

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peace in our lives. Out of small things proceedeth

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that which is great. He said He can make weak

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things become strong and bless us with everything

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we need to succeed in this mortal life and to

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receive eternal life. And He said in Scripture

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many times, and He applies His promise to every

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humble seeker of Christ, every single one of

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us. Maybe some days we don't feel like we fall

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under this umbrella. The best news is that we

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can course correct or turn to Him again and qualify

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for the blessings of joy and peace and spiritual

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direction in our lives. The Lord sees our hearts

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and our intentions and He knows when we choose

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Him. reminds us that Jesus corrected the scribes

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and Pharisees who did indeed follow the law.

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So they followed the law, but more to be seen

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of their peers than because their hearts loved

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God above all else. And so Jesus said this, the

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people drawth nigh unto me with their mouth,

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and on earth me with their lips, but their heart

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is far from me. There's no point to list various

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variations of error. It's another aspect of seeking

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to live a higher and holier way, which is to

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direct ourselves as we listen to the guidance

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of the Holy Ghost. We are the best judge of why

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we're doing the things and if we are to judge

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ourselves as Elder Bednar, as talk dives into,

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it's wise to get lots of practice and self -assessment.

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I like this because, I mean, wasn't the whole

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point of this? heart thing. He was kind of going

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in for a physical because he is at a certain

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age. I'm at a certain age. All of these maintenance

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things are coming up for myself too. And I'm

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like, it's been working fine. You don't really

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think that there's a problem, but when you stop

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and you do some assessment, you do some self

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-reflection, you're like, Oh, we can make these

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tweaks. Like he said, he had some things to fix.

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And so it was like some lifestyle changes or

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whatever. And I thought, what a great life experience.

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has then led to this great conference talk platform

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to say, things can be great, but if you do a

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self assessment and you really give some thought

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into it, there can be some, you can kind of take

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it up with the Lord and say, you know, I've been

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doing these things for whatever reason, like

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help me see it a different way. Do we need to

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make some minor tweaks and some, some course

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corrections? And oftentimes he helps us figure

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out what those are going to be. It's not just

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what we do that we do good works, but also know

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why we do. what Jesus asked us to do. I mean,

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like the scribes and the Pharisees, if you look

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at it just in, you know, face value, you're like,

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they did things perfectly. They did it perfectly

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for the wrong reason, the wrong intent. What's

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written on their heart doesn't really get the

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message across. And so when we're asked to self

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-reflect, we're like, well, did we do that because

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we were putting on a show, we knew people were

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watching us, and so we were obligated to do it?

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Or did we do it, even if imperfectly we did it,

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did we do it for the right reasons? That's a

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much better outcome. Jesus Christ has asked us

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to do these things for our desires and motives.

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He said, for I, the Lord, will judge all men

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according to their works, according to the desires

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of their hearts. I don't know if I was saying

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that quite right, but we do things with the motive

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of learning to become like Jesus Christ or being

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servants on His behalf. he can sense that. That's

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why I'm saying like the thing that we're doing

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does not have to end up perfectly for it to be

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the lesson that we're learning. Oh yeah. Um,

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so here's where we get into the self assessment

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of our hearts. This is interesting because it

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builds upon, like we said, elder builders talk

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about us being the judge of ourselves. Very interesting

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idea. And I'm excited to jump more into that.

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So first, the first one, the elder Barcellos

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gives us is our focus, our priorities and motives.

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And he shares this scripture for where you're

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treasure is there will your heart be also right

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where we the things that we value most that's

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where our heart is and then there's a question

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for self -assessment do I make the Savior a priority

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in my life is my eye single to his glory in all

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that I do and then second our willingness to

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obey God's commandments Nephi exhorted his brothers

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how is it that you do not keep the commandments

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of the Lord How is it that you will perish because

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of the hardness of your hearts? And then to the

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saints of Missouri, the Lord said this, but he

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that doeth not anything until he is commanded

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and receiveth the commandment without with doubtful

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heart and keepeth it with slothfulness. The same

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is damned. That brings to mind something that

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Elder Bednar said years ago. He said the saints

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of the church should not be waiting for every

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single thing to come across the pulpit of what

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they should be doing. And I feel like that is

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where He's so huge on self inspiration, personal

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inspiration. For sure. Because it's going to

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be a little bit different for each person. Different

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than you thinking that you're receiving this

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inspiration that the whole church should be doing

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it. 100%. It is for you, right? And those who

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you have a steward over, which is probably children.

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And that's where it ends, right? But yeah, it

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is very important that we are in tune and that

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we know... We don't have to be told in all things.

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Yeah. There was a third point. I'll cover that

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one. It says, our diligence in studying the scriptures

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and seeking revelation. There we go. The Lord

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admonished Oliver Cowdery to treasure up these

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words in thine heart. A Benediah and Cignoan

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priest, it was said to them, ye have not applied

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your hearts to understanding, therefore ye have

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not been wise. So another question for self -assessment.

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Am I making a sincere effort to study the scriptures

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daily and to apply my heart to understand them

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through prayer? Am I expecting it to be laid

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out for me? Am I willing to put any effort into

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it? And sometimes it's just a matter of opening

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the scriptures and starting there, even if you're

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not going to like deep dive and get so much out

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of it. It's a good starting point. They say,

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God doesn't speak to me. Well, when was the last

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time that you looked at the stuff that he wrote

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down? Fourth, there was a fourth point. He said,

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our thoughts in our words, the Savior taught

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that out of the heart proceed with evil thoughts

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and that out of the abundance of the heart, the

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mouth speaketh. The question you could ask yourself

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here is, am I fostering negative thoughts about

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my own or others' actions or motive? Meaning,

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am I too quick to judge and condemn others or

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myself? Do I seek to find excuses or justification

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for my mistakes? Do my words lift and inspire

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those around me or do they create conflict and

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resentment? I feel like he had really good...

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These are all direct questions from him. He had

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really good ones where if you just... you know,

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we take some time and sit and ponder they could

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really help us in our self -assessment. A good

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reminder also for each of us as we perform the

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spiritual assessment of our heart and we might

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notice some negative symptoms starting to creep

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in. He says, please don't panic. The Savior has

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provided excellent spiritual medication and treatment

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to help each of us. He has even promised to give

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us a new heart. I have always loved this scripture.

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It's in Ezekiel 36 26. And he says, a new heart

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also will I give you. in a new spirit will I

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put within you. And I will take away the stony

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heart out of your flesh, and I will give you

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a heart of flesh." Here are some actions that

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can improve our heart's spiritual strength. The

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first one is strengthen your relationship with

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Christ. Nephi's example is, and He did soften

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my heart that I did believe all the words which

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had been spoken to my father." And then here's

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the Nephites example later on. They did fast

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and pray oft, and did wax stronger and stronger

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in their humility, and the firmer and firmer

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in the faith of Christ, unto the filling of their

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souls with joy and consolation, yea, even to

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the purifying and sanctification of their hearts,

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which sanctification cometh because they're yielding

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their hearts unto God. You bring in these examples

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of Nephi, like above we had said something about,

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you know, like, why don't you believe these things?

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He kind of poses to his brothers like, they have

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the same parents. They get to make their own

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decisions and like, why does it turn out so differently

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for each of them? And we know that the hardness

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of like Laman and Lemuel's hearts, like change

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the course of nations. Second, if we align our

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will with... His the Savior taught if you love

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me keep my commandments He invites us to demonstrate

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our love by making and keeping covenants with

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him as Nephi testified I know that if ye shall

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follow the Son with purpose of heart and acting

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no hypocrisy and no deception before God But

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with real intent repenting of your sins witnessing

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unto the Father that ye are willing to take upon

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you the name of Christ by baptism Then shall

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ye receive the Holy Ghost and then last we're

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gonna serve God and others with all our heart

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The Savior invites all to serve with him With

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all our heart, that's from DNC4 too. It makes

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a difference, Amy. When you're doing service

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just because you think out of some sort of obligation

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that, oh, it's time for some service, I need

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to do some service. Is that a bad thing to do?

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No. Service is always good. Service looks a lot

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different when you're doing it for no ulterior

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motive with no seek for... praise or approval.

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You just go about, you do things because they

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can be small little things. Like a small service

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could be, you know, rolling your neighbor's garbage

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can out. I bought a gallon of milk from the guy

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behind me. We were having this, like my jam kept

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falling back, you know, behind the line of his

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thing. I'm like, I think that jam wants to go

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home with you. And I was like, it's just as easy

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to move that partition and pay for the one gallon

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milk. He thought it was the nicest thing. I'm

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like, that was a $4 spend, right? But I knew

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that Like it would be such a small thing, but

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like he like literally left the store with a

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little bit of a smile. So, you know, sometimes

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the service that we do, it's drawn out over months.

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It's going to be a big, it's going to take a

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lot of manpower, a lot of effort, a lot of mental

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space. If we're doing that out of obligation,

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I can promise you it looks a lot different than

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it's going to look when you're just doing it

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with full intent of heart and just kind of bring

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whatever glory you can to father and son. That

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is very good. Very good, Abby. I love that. When

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we choose to do each thing the Lord has asked

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us to do, such as keeping the commandments or

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partaking the sacrament, worshipping the temple,

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serving others with a sincere heart and with

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real intent, not just because it's a checkbox

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of things that we would do, each act of service

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and worship becomes a powerful spiritual experience

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that strengthens our faith and testimony and

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fills our hearts with joy and love for God and

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our fellow man. I just want to testify, add my

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testimony to his, that that is true. Yeah. I

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also love that when you're saying that too, you

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know, just now we read it and it kind of feels

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like a list because there are you know sequential

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thing of different ideas or different commandments

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we've been asked to do. The part I love though

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is that with each of these things that we are

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asked to do let's call them commandments it is

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an invitation. for us to bring Jesus Christ into

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our lives, into our hearts, and with that, He

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purifies us and sanctifies us and gives us blessing.

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So really, where's the downside for us? It's

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all positive. You know what I mean? Like, I just

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think it's interesting when sometimes we just

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think of either commandments or a list of things

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to do, or it's kind of a burden or a sacrifice.

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It really is the best thing we can be doing with

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our time. In reviewing this talk, I was struck

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by this thought. So if we're our own judges,

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then what if we're too easy on ourselves? The

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thought that kept coming to me was that the answer

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is reciprocal to the question or another way

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to put that is that often our answers. are as

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specific as our questions. We need to put, like

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you were saying, Abby, an honest effort into

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the questions. And this talk, I feel like, poses

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really good questions, either by Elder Barcellos

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himself or from the scriptures that he shared.

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He went through and found really good scriptural

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stories and citations where people had been talking

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about purifying their hearts and how they, you

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know, put the word of the Lord in there. They're

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specific. These questions are specific and they

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are meant to bring out our true intents and desires.

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And as we each invite the Holy Ghost to be an

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active participant of this, we can facilitate

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an honest self -assessment. and gently course

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correct where needed. I'm so grateful that the

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Lord has promised us a new heart. I gratefully

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claim that blessing each time I repent or study

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the scriptures or overcome a weakness or walk

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through a challenge with the Lord at my side.

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And I look forward with joyful anticipation when

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Jesus performs his consummate act of healing

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at the resurrection. And I have a new heart,

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fully healed and fully alive. And my hope is

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the same for each of you listening today. Abby,

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did you have Anything else to add? Kind of just

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everything heart related coming to when I listen

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back to this talk and I thought it is. so important

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for us in our physical beings to be considered

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of our hearts and the things that it's asked

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to do for us and how easily it ties into gospel

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principles, how we need to do a check -in and

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we need to assess and we need to see is that

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a soft pliable heart, the kind that we want that's

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going to keep us alive and rejuvenated and doing

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the things we're doing or are we going to let

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that atrophy or weaken from the challenges that

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we're experiencing in life. Like you said, he

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asked like a million questions. I would suggest

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as you listen back through it, kind of go into

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this one with the thought like, help something,

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help the thing that I need. Help the question

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that I need to prick my heart. There are a ton

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of questions that you could ask yourself on this

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one, but there's going to be one that's going

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to kind of start helping peel back. get you to

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the core of what change that he's ready to help

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you realize because you've asked him, you've

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put your agency into it. Maybe it is that you

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need to do more service. Maybe it's that you

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need to allow yourself to be served. Maybe it's

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that you need to be in his word more. Maybe it's,

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there's a million things that it could be. And

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the spirit knows exactly what each one of us

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needs. The prophet Alma's question still echoes

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today. Have you been spiritually born of God?

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Have you received his image in your countenances?

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Have you experienced this mighty change in your

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hearts? That's the perfect question to ask. Thank

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you for joining us. Amy and I pray for the Lord's

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love to be with each of you this week as we reflect

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on the state of our own hearts. Love the Abbey.

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Have a good week.
